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Summary
It's election day, and there's a lot to be made of the latest polls. There's a 5 point swing against the Tories, a Labour surge in support, a Lib Dem surge, and a surge for the Greens. We talk about it all in this week's political chat.
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Hi folks, welcome back to another one of our political chats.
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You can feel the tectonic plates shifting and new possibilities are being born.
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When you say tectonic plate shifting, you basically mean the ice is breaking under Nigel Farage.
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Yes, actually, that's definitely what's happening.
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As you can see, more in common have this week's polling intentions.
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hand reform down by five wow and a difference between the conservatives of just three points
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and labor of just four points that is that is incredible i mean the ming vase is going
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an easy prediction to make at this point but the next election is going to end up with a coalition
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of the conservatives and reform and the election after that is going to be a two-way battle between
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the greens and restore yeah and it's not even clear who the senior partner will be no it's not
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that's the thing yeah right and how funny would it be if it's keby badenock and and nigel farage
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has to sit under her i mean genuinely hilarious yeah i mean he'd probably quit but sure yeah i
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don't think he'd do it'd be too humiliating but as you can see from the previous week a reformer
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on 30 percent so this one isn't bad this poll isn't too well that's that's from the 7th of april
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oh that's a week ago so that's a week ago right so in a week according to more in common this is
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just the same pollster right as far as they're concerned reformed lost five points in a week
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in a week but the conservatives only gained three i mean that's something but that's that's not that
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much right and as you can see mapped out that that was then this was a week ago this this is strong
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result right so you can see the complete shattering reform 200 uh conservatives 145
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really doubling down on the triple-lock pension.
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Well, if he'd watched last week's episode of this,
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that actually the boomers are not the only people in the country who vote.
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But there are something like 35 million voters,
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And how to put this sensitively, the boomers are a wasting asset.
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It's not present in the other demographics.
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Anyway, so, yeah, like I said, that's a massive shift.
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right five points in a week on this one poll but you say well it's just one poll and don't get me
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wrong we know but as we as we covered last week they were on 25 percent uh where is it about there
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25 well now they're on 24 and we called this out from the start we did everyone is catching up to
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us i mean we called this out when we were looking at the sort of like this dip here we're like oh
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no this is this is bad this is going in the wrong direction because for us it looks like the upper
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ceiling of reform should have been about 40 right nigel farage on his own personal uh uh attraction
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should have been possibly like 15 20 and then you add another sort of 10 of really disgruntled
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right-wing people and then you get the sort of mid types who are like oh no god everything's
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going badly all he had to do was make it look like it was inevitable that the conservatives
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were going extinct and that wouldn't have been difficult to do yeah instead especially back here
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yeah back in may 2025 but instead all he's done is made it inevitable that reform are going to
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decline yes and you can see the conservatives haven't really been benefiting that highly from
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his decline i mean the benefits are little but like still just but they're in the race i mean
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they are but they've gone from like you know the low of 17 up to now their new high under kemi
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they were walking wounded not so long ago sure but and now they're in contention to lead the
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coalition that will come out the other side of the election when boris won he was on 52
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just worth remembering i mean there has to be some cost for betraying the country so completely
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and doing the boris wave um i don't can i can i get i think it was 52 he's on he was really high
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yeah there we go wow 50 51 cents wow yeah 51 cent so that is just cataclysmic right i mean to be
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fair he did bring in whatever it was four or five million completely incompatible people who have
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launched a crime wave on this country and now you can't go for a walk in certain parts of the country
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without getting stabbed or your daughter raped yeah i mean it was it was a mistake did you see
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that uh viral video that went around from the bbc the other day but they'd found a black guy sat
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outside the um savoy in swindon and so they're like great what do you think about immigration
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and he's just like well and he's got like a an english accent you know like a southwestern
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english accent so you know what i hate immigration this country's going to the dogs i can't believe
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it it went viral because you know that the bbc were like finally an ethnic minority he'll be
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immigration it's like look not all of them came in the boris wave yes like a lot of them came
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long before the boris wave and liked england as it was and were happy to be like the only minority
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in the village right well and actually and his grandson is the most likely demographic to get
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stabbed yes by the new arrivals absolutely uh anyway so getting back to this as you can see
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like we we're saying here the conservatives have gone from 17 to 19 percent but when put in
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perspective of only six years that is i mean if that were mine i'd be like oh god yeah uh and you
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can see uh the rise of from you can see where farage uh jumps back in where it's about here
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and it correlates with Labour and Conservatives
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but is it the entire gap that's been left by this
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the other line that's shooting up is the Greens
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I mean Farage has captured a lot of Labour support
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just just look at the history of reform and greens you can come from next to another you
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can come from below five percent and take and take it all yeah so reform will last at uh say
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five percent we'll go for in was it march 2023 oh three years ago yeah exactly we're still three
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years out from the election we'll we'll be fine right and then you just look at that curve though
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that is gutting that is just gutting for farage like how have you screwed this up mate you you
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should have been around sort of here right around this area easily comfortably by never count
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signaling your own base i mean like you can't do that yeah yeah all you have to do is just not
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count signal your own supporters yes right um i mean look at trump at the moment trump is tanking
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because oh i'm at war with tucker carlson and marjorie taylor green and all of my most hardcore
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supporters for the last 10 years yes what are you doing he has carefully looked at his base
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he's drawn the dividing line and attacked the more popular half of it he's drilling holes in
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the bottom of his own bloody boat nigel farage is doing the same and the thing is it's like it
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and it was and it's painful watching trump do it because we are trump supporters absolutely
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but we but we've seen nigel farage do this for the last two or three years attacking his own
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support base and we know how it goes it doesn't work out yes it couldn't be said better i mean
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it feels like trump has genuinely had someone like mind like take over his own squid yeah
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yeah exactly and so now he's just insane from the standards of like you know any other period
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of trump's presidencies uh anyway so the point being we know how attacking your own base goes
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and it goes badly and that is just a brutal curve uh for farage down to 24 as i look what can he do
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to recover this and the answer is well not really very much right i mean it would certainly help if
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stopped attacking his own support base but things they're not his own support they're not his support
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anymore because they've walked exactly and what what would really help is not cramming his party
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full of tories right that that really wouldn't amongst other groups and yeah and the boris wave
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itself yes we'll come on to all of that in a minute right because it really is nigel farage
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just hoisted his own petard here and it is it's really not yeah but you'll notice what's that
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Remember, Restore Britain commissioned a couple of polls themselves
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where when they were prompted, they were at 7% and 8%.
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So they averaged at 6% because when unprompted, they end up at 4%.
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So when you're unprompted, you have to click on other
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and then you have to type in the party that you want,
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I mean, Farage's prediction of, oh, you'll only get 1%,
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So why did you leave such a vulnerable flank unguarded, Nigel?
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Because now you're literally getting stabbed in it.
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Restore Britain are now making an impact in the polls,
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in fact let's uh let's get on to that um so here we are again unprompted by yougov uh restore
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britain a solid four percent which is not a bad place to start considering it's what a month old
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something like that uh so he shows this it's really got some legs so what's fraj doing
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well he's like oh i mean shibana mahoud is attacking the right from the right through
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her actions right whether you like labor and shibana mahoud or not she's a very right-wing
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home secretary oh she's more right-wing than any tory absolutely and we'll get on to exactly how
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much more right-wing than any bloody tory she is very shortly but she's been very firm actually
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that no i represent the sort of institutional majesty of the united kingdom and therefore
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i'm going to use executive powers that the home office and the home secretary has
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in order to basically brutalize anyone I don't like.
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I mean, the contrast between her and Rachel Reeves,
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I think her job's a lot easier than Rachel Reeves' job.
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it's much easier to just deport foreigners but still they haven't got a handle on the small
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boats they haven't got a handle no on um like corruption and the uh yeah um the american
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candy shops and the turkish barbers oh yeah i haven't got a handle on the laundering yeah
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the money laundering all that sort of thing so anyway uh your party went down to zero on this
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as well i forgot about them yeah everyone does um also uh the your party scotland branch uh just
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basically disbanded the other day as well i mean bear in mind your party is a placeholder name
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yeah they'd never got around to name oh no no no i can't make fun of them for not naming it because
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we haven't actually named this series but i'm still yeah no no they did have a vote oh did
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they and the vote was for your party right okay fair enough it was a terrible name anyway
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that's not the name oh okay and then it was voted for as the name and then the party goes there in
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the polls. So, uh, good prediction from Farage on your party, bad prediction from Farage on
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restore. Anyway, so, uh, what do you do when everyone is to your right? Well, you have to
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tack right, uh, because these are the genuine problems of the time. And so reform have posted
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and Farage did a press conference on this reform will end indefinitely to remain, stop benefits
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for foreigners and reverse the Boris wave. So that is just almost word for word, Rupert Lowe's
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rhetoric coming out of the mouth of nigel farage's party yes and he got kicked out of reform for
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that yeah the only thing is right rupert lowe said it i mean going back to our unprompted thing yes
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he said it unprompted that's correct nigel farage has said it after spending what it is four five
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years now telling us that under no circumstances would he ever do these things i'm not for mass
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deportations until he starts dropping in the polls this can't be done and he sees somebody rising in
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the polls who is saying it and then he says it which makes me think that possibly this isn't the
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most sincere statement that i've ever seen well like we've always said about farage he's always
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behind the crest of the wave yes he's always a follower never a leader and here we are him
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following once again he for blackadder fans he is the general melchit of of of politics you know
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him and his drinks cabinet will be following he is actually yeah he is very miles behind the front
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line no no absolutely the general melcher of british politics is definitely especially as
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he just seems to not care about his own men no at all uh anyway the point that this made
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seemed like a good one to people who are not part of reform as in yes we restore voters
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are going to do that but if you do that isn't there a price to be paid because i can't help
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but notice that you happen to have the boris wave tories in your party and the boris wave
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themselves as your candidates yes so do i think you're actually going to end indefinite leave to
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remain i mean herald scotland were like well hang on a second doesn't that mean that generic and
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sweller will be hauled in front of your boris wave migration probe i mean for a start do we
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think that he's actually going to do an inquiry independently on well he did say that he was
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going to do an inquiry into the grooming gangs and didn't and who did it we put loaded exactly
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anyway as uh as the herald point out uh zeer yusuf has decided to get tough on all of this
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um but that means and reform sources have told the express newspaper that the party would therefore
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have to be looking at it hauling uh dame priti patel as well as swella braveman and robert
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jenrick and i mean they were instrumental in the boys brave yes jenrick was literally the
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immigration minister yes and braveman was literally the home secretary like her name
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is on the letters they get when they say congratulations you're allowed to live in the
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uk so so so they're gonna they're gonna have this inquiry and people are gonna turn up and say well
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Look, here's a letter from your Home Secretary.
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Who was also the Home Secretary under the Tories.
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I mean, we were issuing tens of thousands of them a day,
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I mean, if you ever get hauled up in front of a judge
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and your defence is a piece of paper signed by the judge
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saying that you can do the exact thing that you're in court for,
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i think you're probably going to win the case it seems likely you're going to walk doesn't it
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seems likely uh anyway so uh farage has addressed this criticism by the way all right what did he
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come up with he said that look he wanted the inquiry to uncover whether the rise and migration
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of the period was just sheer incompetence or whether it's done willfully well we know that's
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all out there because boris johnson has told everyone i'm sure there was some incompetence
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he was advised but it was mainly deliberate he was advised by the bank of england that bringing
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in people they the the europeans were going to leave which they did and they needed to bring
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in people in order to replace those people because as you've pointed out in the past
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um the bank of england's calculation for gdp is literally a number of people divided by the amount
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of money literally well gdp per capita and they assume if they just add more capita it goes up
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and and the specific thing they were warning him about was that wages will rise yes and he wanted
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the financial times to like him as in big business didn't want wages rising and so if he just cranks
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open the floodgates then yes the financial times writes well about you that's true so again we
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don't actually need an inquiry on this we know it was done with will it wasn't incompetence because
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actually it's quite difficult to incompetently make this happen frankly if you're incompetent
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it's more likely that nothing changes right i can believe 300 000 immigration from incompetence i
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can't believe 1.4 million from incompetence yeah yeah genuinely impossible to fathom it has to have
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been done deliberately but he says quote of course there are some that will say ah but you've got
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sweller braven and robert jemmerick in your party he says yes absolutely if you read what sweller
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has written on this and you read what robert has written on this they tried to stop the disaster
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that really started properly in 2021 and that's why they resigned or were fired well i mean for
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swella i will actually buy that right swella i think probably did herself want to reduce the
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amount of immigration uh and she eventually was fired um robert jenrich did resign eventually
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but again he was overseeing it but the problem with jenrich is that he actually seems to have
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had his uh damascene conversion to being based and right-wing relatively late in his political
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career i mean the gemrick was the immigration minister from 2022 to 2023 and so that means
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that only three years ago he was like cram as many afghans into the country as we can well and
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also when this came to light didn't he write an article that was basically saying yes and i'm
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proud of it this is that article oh okay right this article was published on september the 4th
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2025 shall i read some of it yes please quote brave men and women like amadullah and his wife
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are our new countrymen and women their children are future members of our armed forces teachers
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doctors and entrepreneurs okay that was what are we uh eight months ago
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yes i'm not not very convinced by his his conversion to be honest we will do everything
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we can to ensure their new lives in the uk happy and successful well could we occasionally i know
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this might sound like a silly idea but occasionally could we try and make sure that the people of
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britain are happy and successful rather than trying to make everybody else in the world happy
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unsuccessful best i can do is make sure that one of them murders you in the middle of the street
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but you can't even do that yeah safi darwood the uh killer of wayne broadhurst you remember
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watching the video of it as it went around uh actually absolutely brutal just just stabbing
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him to death in the middle of the street for no goddamn reason yep guess what year uh mr darwood
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was given indefinitely to remain well it'd be very unfortunate if he was either 24 or 25
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Well, it was 2022, when he was the immigration minister.
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Oh, when he was the immigration minister, okay.
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So, and then years later, two years later, he's still like,
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yeah, well, I mean, we need to get as many Afghan refugees in as we can.
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It's always about making everybody else, apart from the British people,
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And the thing is, it wasn't even, so for anyone who doesn't know, by the way,
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uh robert jamerick and the conservative government smuggled in somewhere in the region of 50 to 250
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thousand afghans we don't know how many right and i say smuggled because they literally put a gag
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order on the media and yes we didn't find out about it for years yeah it was in 2025 we found
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out about which is why he wrote his uh we need to welcome afghan refugees this is a national project
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i mean and the other thing on him of course is i'd note that he's he's becoming apparently based
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occurred only after he had lost the leadership of the Conservative Party.
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And it had become apparent that the Conservative Party was going down in flames
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and that if he wanted to maintain a political career,
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and then he could go to another party and have a career there.
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Remember, he only actually joined the Reform Party
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So he was like, Nigel Farage was like, oh, brilliant.
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another tory yes i mean what's he going to do go and get a proper job no well yeah yeah absolutely
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uh but this this this one is particularly bizarre because it's like okay if safi dalwood was one of
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those afghan interpreters that we had so many tens of thousands of who had served with the british
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army in afghanistan for you know whether you agree with that or not and maybe you can understand
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that jenrik would be like yeah yeah okay he did work with us we're going to have him in
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He broke into the country in 2020 by hanging on the back of a lorry.
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Other countries, I mean, apart from the mental handful of European ones,
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yeah like you you'd be flogged probably and then chucked out but yeah so he he snuck in on the back
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of a lorry and then two years later jenrich's like yeah you can stay here's a rubber stamp
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so oh great and then three years after that he's like yeah i think i'm just gonna murder
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because the hope was that safi would have helped keep wages down to stop british people's wages
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from going up and if he just brutally murdered someone in the middle of the street for no reason
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whatsoever well that is a price worth paying to make sure that your wages don't go up
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that is literally what the conservative government of which generic was the immigration minister
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thought it is literally their thought process so yes that is is exactly what happened i think it's
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worth uh understanding the scale of the boris waves or someone's uh oh yeah someone's uh pointed
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it out like this this is just preposterous right so these these were the ones who granted indefinite
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leave to remain out of the four million who are allowed in so there are lots of people who are
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given to the red bar of the boris wave indefinitely to remain so the gray bar is still bigger yeah
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the gray bar is the number of indefinite leave to remain grants given from 1960 to 2025 oh oh well
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it doesn't look that much bigger when you realize that the one on the left is 65 years and the other
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one is is is two or three this this one this is the projected number from the boris wave that could
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be allowed to just stay right after the irl so uh ilr sorry so as you can see right the boris wave
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at about well two million say yeah is most of the ilr grants given over the entire course of
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immigration into this country right it's a huge chunk out of it and that includes like tony blair's
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government yes about half of it right which at the time we thought was mental on immigration yeah
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and and that's the ones between in the next four years who are going to just be given citizenship
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wow and it's just like okay this like again like charlie points out like you just don't understand
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just how many people this was right i mean that you know six million nearly in you know uh 60
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year period 65 year period that's a lot you know they shouldn't have been doing that but cranking
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it up which is what they're going to do until starma is kicked out of office but it's still
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a million a decade not a million a year yeah so it's just brutal right so anyway going back to
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reform uh they're gonna they're gonna do something about the boris wave but are they because of
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course they're gonna have to say well sorry mr jenrik you were responsible for the boris wave
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we're going to make you the chancellor of the exchequer for some reason and you are a member
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of the Boris wave we're going to make sure that you're given political power in this country as
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a councillor yeah I mean of all the people to defend right and I'm not saying this guy's done
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anything wrong but it does seem preposterous to be sourcing your political candidates from overseas
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in the middle of the political event that you're promising to undo we're here to reverse the
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are you nigel or who's going to be doing it well mr um sorry what was this guy's name
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oh yeah adi mo adu zuzaman why did you not remember that carl yeah i know it just didn't
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roll off the tongue for some reason um but yeah so the leader of reform uk in portsmouth uh is it
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back after the party was criticized for selecting a bangladeshi man this is the literal bbc text i'm
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reading uh to stand in next year city council elections he's here on a student visa oh no
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sorry no sorry he has uh he was here i think on a student visa but he's got indefinitely to remain
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now oh of course so uh of course he has yeah i mean entirely possible that jenrik gave him that
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too uh and lots of people on social media were like well why are foreigners allowed to stand
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in our elections yeah and that's a great question and i assume it's because in previous eras like
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go back a hundred years when elections started the number of foreigners in the country was
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literally so marginal it wouldn't have occurred to them to rule that out exactly yeah it's literally
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like john if we were writing i mean maybe we would now maybe a little bit but if we were writing a
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constitution in the year 2000 we probably wouldn't have said oh um ai agents can't be elected
00:26:24.160
councillors you it wouldn't occur to you but that could actually be a thing in a hundred years that's
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a great point and not even a hundred years like that could probably be a thing relatively soon
00:26:31.520
you have literal robots standing for election i mean i'd probably prefer them to be honest but
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yes absolutely i have a much better relationship with chat gpt um but that's the point is it just
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wasn't in the mind of people at the time uh so anyway another thing that's interesting about
00:26:46.820
this is that reform are not necessarily committed to farage right now this is not the only polling
00:26:51.220
on the subject but reform restore did a poll uh through uh find out now i think it was and one of
00:26:58.200
the things that was revealed was who would you like uh most prefer to be the prime minister from
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2024 reform uk voters and less than half of them said nigel sorry this is this is only sampling
00:27:09.800
reform voters yes and a third of them said rupert lowe correct and only half of them
00:27:15.720
said nigel farage 16 but like none of the above
00:27:19.360
one percent one well that's an interesting category the one percent said i'm gonna vote
00:27:26.580
I'm going to vote for reform, but I want Keir Starmer to be Prime Minister.
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I mean, do that many Lib Dems want him to be the Prime Minister?
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At least none of them said Zach Polanski, so that's encouraging.
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When a third of your own supporters want somebody else to win,
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It shows you that the decline in the polls is organic.
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where everyone's like oh yeah this party's collapsing
00:28:58.060
Are you going to hand it over to Robert Jenrick,
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Couldn't even get elected in his own conservative party.
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So as soon as Farage, a lot of people dislike him,
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And even his own supporters, a lot of them want Rupert Lowe.
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And honestly, that's fine, because that works for us.
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But it also is interesting how he is losing to the Greens already.
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because a reform councillor was given a 12-month prison sentence
00:30:02.460
Yes, he kept on trying to run for MP there, didn't he?
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Yeah, I don't know why he kept choosing Thanet.
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percentage white British, 83.6 in the 2020 census,
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7.2% Muslim, and only sort of 10% non-English speaking.
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So it's mostly a white British area still.
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oh wait okay so it could have been the bad kind of abusively controlling your wife and not the
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kind that we permit not the politically correct kind yeah yeah yeah absolutely um so but this
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this goes to show that even in the majority white british areas that are doing quite well i mean i
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suppose is why they're going to the greens but uh but this goes to show that actually um the greens
00:30:40.760
are not just the student vote no right no good point and so uh rupert lowe his tack towards no
00:30:48.260
young people are getting a really stiff deal here
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triple locking the pensions and you're literally going to be
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If you are already going to vote for me, I'm going to
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So, I mean, you can't count the Greens out, right?
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Because they're running a good propaganda campaign,
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And so you really have to give them their credit on this.
00:31:30.760
Labour have actually done some things that are all right,
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Mind you, all of their wins are things that don't appeal
00:31:46.060
yeah they're right wing wins yeah yeah yeah which is i mean it's good to check make the
00:31:50.380
conservatives and farage but that's not where the labor vote is going yeah and this is a point that
00:31:56.340
people have been making and saying well hang on a second um look at what the concerns are in the
00:32:01.340
country right the economy 55 which most people share literally 55 but immigration is the second
00:32:07.840
of 47 and the only reason that the economy has gone above immigration is because of the iran war
00:32:14.040
and how things are going right right the the the squeeze has been continual since covid and so the
00:32:20.660
economy has been uh where is it uh the red one right the economy has been a big deal especially
00:32:26.220
during the covid years and after the covid years but the immigration thing has been really persistent
00:32:31.300
because oh actually boris because we thought with brexit immigration was over right that's what
00:32:36.800
people generally thought and no no no oh no there are loads of oh my god it's mental right yep so
00:32:42.720
immigration in the economy to intimately connected issues as we saw from boris's i mean i'd have a
00:32:48.600
hard time picking between those two absolutely depends what what mood you catch me in as to
00:32:52.740
which one i answer depends whether i had to pay a bill or i got stopped in the street by some
00:32:57.140
foreigner but the point is as you said they're intimately connected these people were brought
00:33:02.500
here to depress your wages yes they were like these are the same issue they're just two sides
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of the coin there's the right side and the left side of the coin i mean you could you could just
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combine them and put it under the system is rigged against you exactly exactly and so farage
00:33:17.180
decided yeah i'm going to go for the the boomers and their pensions but the zach polanski types
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are going for the economy they're saying no we're going to make it rip off britain is a good slogan
00:33:27.680
because we are in rip off britain and him saying well it's the mysterious absent billionaires
00:33:33.260
they're doing it in a way yes but not in the way that he will ever admit as in it's the billionaires
00:33:38.820
pressuring the government to bringing infinite amount of foreigners
00:33:45.380
but the Greens can only speak about one half of the subject.
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So if Rupert Lowe and the Restore Party can speak about both sides of the subject...
00:33:55.700
And the young people in this country are basically voting Green
00:34:02.080
because, I think, purely economic reasons, right?
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uh 33 as you can tell by the 70 plus or reform 60 69 uh 36 percent uh the 60 69 to 36 percent
00:34:14.640
reform 50 59 31 percent reform so this is pension voters right people who are like no i either have
00:34:21.480
my pension or i'm getting it soon i'm voting for it that that anecdote by harry that he shared on
00:34:25.900
the podcast the other week i mean that was golden when he when he met that mate of his yeah who um
00:34:31.260
who said yeah i'm voting for the green party and then after that he said oh and by the way i found
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or twitter and i agree with everything i mean it's it's it's it's a young man who who is right
00:34:42.860
wing he just agrees with all the right stuff but he doesn't have an offering on the right
00:34:46.560
he just knows the economy is screwed and and look at look at 70 plus yeah it's it's a competition
00:34:53.420
between the um pensioners party and the pensioners party in slightly different colors yeah yeah this
00:35:00.300
is this is buying this is you know this is buying a ford cortina and you've just got down to the
00:35:04.640
choice of what color you want it in two-thirds of 70 pluses and nearly the same with boomers
00:35:10.040
are voting pensions yes that's just it this is literally all we do we vote for our pensions
00:35:14.660
and so and so i mean the the question for the store is do you want to come along and be the
00:35:19.200
third right-wing party competing for 15 of the population 10 of the population sorry yeah and
00:35:26.500
but look at the the young people by uh conversely uh you've got the the labor and greens says half
00:35:33.920
of them, more than half of them, nearly two-thirds of them, saying, I need some money from the
00:35:39.220
wealthy. I need some sort of wealth redistribution. I need the boomer grandparents to give me some
00:35:44.360
money. Now, it's either going to be done by the state stealing your money, or maybe you could
00:35:49.280
sell your big house so I could buy it, and you could move into a two-bedroom bungalow and have
00:35:54.820
a nice, comfortable life on the rest of the earnings. But no, for some reason, the boomers
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are locking up their properties, and that means that the young is just like, well, I'm going to
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have to turn to the government then i mean stamp duty really doesn't help i mean the government
00:36:06.500
yeah i mean one of the things that kemi bay not promised just to get rid of stamp duty
00:36:11.260
great idea yep that's a good policy great idea brilliant idea i mean they can't because it's
00:36:16.460
12 billion a year and they're already running a massive deficit so you're gonna have to cut
00:36:21.140
something i'm in favor of cutting a lot of things well yes yes but you are right they they can't
00:36:27.220
But you can see where the younger people are like,
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And the older people are like, we refuse to do any distribution.
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There is redistribution taking place right now.
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Yeah, your triple lock vampirism is sucking their wealth out.
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if you were born in 1956 and you're the median of that generation of that cohort
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300 000 pounds gets transferred by the state to you over the course of your lifetime we are we are
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what we are doing is we're taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich and i i saw i saw
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um some numbers of that i hadn't verified them but it was something like for every pound a boomer
00:37:19.560
has paid they get paid one pound 20 by the state so it's literally you are getting more than you
00:37:25.040
ever put in yes and you're getting it from the young people now who are in a terrible economy
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who are having their wages deliberately depressed by mass immigration and all of the other you know
00:37:34.000
the petrol prices through the roof energy prices through the roof because Ed Miliband's crazy
00:37:39.040
green stuff and all this sort of thing these guys have nowhere to go like they're desperate you can
00:37:44.160
understand why they'd be desperate and I know people in the comments will be pushing back and
00:37:47.480
saying oh actually UK pensions are lower than the other G7 countries yeah that's because in this
00:37:52.280
country you get a blend of cash and services you just get i mean the nhs for example most of its
00:37:58.960
budget is pensioners yes so you are so the proportion that we spend on that 10 of the
00:38:04.540
population is the same as other g7 countries is just not all cash yes and this is just to be
00:38:11.940
clear the wealthiest cohorts that have ever lived as well one in five of them are millionaires yeah
00:38:17.000
and the next so the top quintile of millionaires and the next quintile down uh it's like 900 000
00:38:23.780
yes uh yeah yeah exactly that's that's not not like you know and then four out of five are on
00:38:29.000
you know 13 grand a year or something the median the median has a net worth of half a million yeah
00:38:33.940
it's i mean don't go wrong good for them yes but it's time to think of yourselves as part of a
00:38:38.620
civilization now and yes grandchildren are really having a hard time and well the proportion of
00:38:45.260
people who are um married and a homeowner by 30 used to be 50 in 1960 and now it's five percent
00:38:53.320
yeah so come on guys you know you've got to be honest about what's going on and you know i'm not
00:38:58.760
saying that no boomer can ever have a pension you know means test it if your current you know
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wealth and your monthly income is below a certain threshold yes you get a pension if it's above that
00:39:08.660
no you don't get a pension do it do it for the bottom quintile yeah because they've only got a
00:39:12.040
net worth 150 grand yeah there we go that's fine totally happy with it everyone you know that way
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you don't have to be a vampiric generation upon the young and everyone wins it would be good
00:39:21.880
anyway so like like you were saying uh there's definitely scope for a sensible right-wing party
00:39:27.180
to say no there needs to be an accord here actually yeah uh where we help out the people
00:39:31.880
who need helping and on both ends of the spectrum frankly and those people who don't need helping
00:39:36.720
don't need helping so let's get on with it if you're a millionaire you should not be getting
00:39:41.460
benefits and that's the current situation yeah i mean you know like the fact that 53 percent of
00:39:46.300
the country are net beneficiaries of the state and not taxpayers is just mad anyway so the point
00:39:51.980
being no one's really happy right tom howard actually made a good point here which i'm
00:39:56.020
loathe to say which is uh everyone's taking a plunge basically oh the dotted the dotted line
00:40:01.620
is zero yeah everybody is underwater by a long way and even like zach polanski's on minus 19
00:40:08.840
because the thing about Kimmy Badenock, Ed Davey, and Zach Palancey
00:40:12.140
is that most people don't know who they are, right?
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And so when you get this, you've got a sort of like, you know,
00:40:17.640
their 20 or 30% of the supporters who will be like,
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And then sort of like 20 or 30% of people who are politically engaged
00:40:25.080
And then you've got about 30, 34% in the middle who are like,
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And the more exposure Zach Palancey is getting,
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The more Kimmy Badenock gets, the more she's going down.
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Nigel Farage has, you know, always been down, really.
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And Keir Starmer, of course, is literally at the bottom of the ocean.
00:40:53.700
I think that your prediction that it will be Greens versus Restore in three years' time
00:41:00.580
I do think that's a good prediction, and we can see the signs of it already.
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so let's assume that the country is made mostly of sensible people and they say yeah okay we're
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going to vote restore we get restore government well what can we actually do and the answer is
00:41:16.700
a lot because a lot of precedent has been made recently what are you thinking of well let's talk
00:41:22.620
about some precedents so stripping citizenship is a precedent that has been made recently for
00:41:28.780
someone who is not a terrorist he was a policeman wasn't he he was a former policeman that's correct
00:41:33.540
seems to have married he seems to be a bit of a russia boo so he married a russian woman moved
00:41:38.520
to russia got russian citizenship uh he's been fair enough people people travel all over the
00:41:43.200
world yeah he's been like arrested at the airport a few times interrogated had his devices taken
00:41:49.800
but he's on account of marrying a russian girl and living in russia yeah on the account they
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assume he was like some russian asset or something but they've checked all of his devices he's never
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been you know charged with anything let alone convicted of anything yeah and shabana mahoud
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for some reason has just uh quote in the interest of national security revoked his british passport
00:42:08.800
wait so so we can just take a passport off anyone we like for not actually committing any crime or
00:42:17.680
doing any terrorism just because we want to yeah well that's going to come in handy yeah it is
00:42:23.180
and what's really i'll read some more of this because this is this is really fascinating this
00:42:26.880
an incredible test case right so you former policeman so not some sort of like doped up
00:42:31.480
loser or something right former policeman right okay he'd been on russian exchange programs where
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the russians sent a policeman over here and we sent a policeman over there oh so that so that's
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so so we germinated his interest in the first place i don't know possibly right you know
00:42:44.440
but we um this this is a chap called mark bullen so just englishman right had his british passport
00:42:52.740
revoked on information which would not be made public in the interest of national security
00:43:25.720
very concerning i mean i i get a similar feeling whenever i come back through heathrow or gatwick
00:43:30.600
and the people who are checking to see if i can come in yeah can barely speak the boris wave
00:43:37.180
literally the boris wave yes it's just like but this is the home secretary who again a very
00:43:44.460
right-wing thing to do so it sets an interesting precedent um you are being deprived of your uk
00:43:51.600
nationality on the grounds that to do so is conducive to the public good says shabana great
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okay i'm i'm making a note yeah that's that's the wording you use it's just we're not going to tell
00:44:01.940
you why it's conducive to the public good yeah that's right it is except it'll actually be it
00:44:06.340
will be when we do it yes yes who's public good uh bullen shared the letter online so he was just
00:44:11.920
like he messed up saying is this a joke of course he hasn't been convicted of any crimes uh he was
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literally was a Muslim woman who joined the Islamic
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We could go back to, like, Henry VIII's Black Trumpeter,
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the ability to denaturalise everyone in the country,
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I think Shabana Mahmood deserves a Christmas card from me.
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I mean, that is just mad, the nature of the country now, though, right?
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But of course, like with David Lammy in the jury trials,
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I mean, David Lammy wanting to get rid of jury trials.
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Why would he care about a core tenet of English justice?
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this he's a tureg man as his book tribes tells us shibana mahmoud is a pakistani muslim woman who
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for is for whom islam is the guiding principle of everything she does as she told us well for me
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it's the magna casa and the english judicial system and legal system there's the guiding
00:46:35.200
principle i think of how my country should be operating under but i mean under that under
00:46:40.120
reprobocity here a native english man can strip a pakistani woman and a ugandan man
00:46:46.040
citizenship what's their argument against it well given that they've been doing it themselves
00:46:52.280
exactly but not only that given how they gave reasons so broad yes we could just cite them
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back it's conducive to the public good mr lammy miss mahmoud yes it is conducive to the public
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good we're not going to tell you what that is we're not going to tell you why yes we're not
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going to show you any evidence we're not even going to tell you what you're accused of but
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trust us it's conducive for the public good and so we're going to do it that's that's where we're
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at now as a country like isn't that just mad it's just mad but this is but all the same thank you
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very much for the precedent yeah exactly if you can do it then we can do it this is the country
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we live in and when we gain control of it this is what you get i mean he like uh mr bullen here
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says it's like east germany it's which it is yeah an undemocratic country no lawyer no phone no
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water a nice cold room if someone had allowed to describe the situation to me when i was working
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the police and asked is this allowed i would have answered of course not it's illegal but now it is
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again he was a former police officer it's not like he's some you know like bomb throwing jihadi
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yeah it's not like he's an isis enforcer i think yeah mad isn't it uh a home office spokesman though
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said quote deprivation of british citizenship is a vital tool used to protect the uk from some of
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its most dangerous people including those involved in terrorism hostile state or activity or serious
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organized crime well which of those is he oh they are we we don't know i assume hostile state
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activity right but who what what community is involved in serious organized crime well
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the trafficking of young girls to be pimped around the country to be raped and pimped around the
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country well that's serious organized crime and as rupert lois said if that means entire
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communities go then so be it the millions in fact so yeah the next thing they've decided is
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but then you've got other structural things that they've decided no no okay so the the legal system
00:49:22.420
the uh the the way the government connects to citizenship we can do whatever hell we like there
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which okay great news for when we win right but the next thing is the electoral system itself
00:49:34.400
right remember they have given 16 and 70 year olds the 17 year olds the right they can just
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change that whenever they're down where i want oh we can just mess around with the right to vote can
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we yep oh brilliant so step one we win the election step two we change voting to only being
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people of net taxpayers well literally change it to net taxpayers so that way yeah actually that
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would do it yeah yeah that way sorry boomers you're not net taxpayers there go your public
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sector public sector gone right unemployed gone yeah people who literally contribute nothing to
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the country gone and we'll see what actually a participatory democracy looks like right people
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who are actually holding the system up what do they want and what will that do that will
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incentivize people to become the kind of person who holds the system up and not be someone who
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drains out of it and you know and at the end of the day if you're like no i'm just going to be
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unemployed fine i'm just going to be on my pension fine that's totally fine we just don't care about
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how you think the country should be run because as we saw from the goddamn boomers we know you just
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think give us more money right we know you're just voting for your pensions yes right okay no we're
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we're not accusing all boomers no yes but two-thirds yes are just voting for their pensions
00:50:46.940
it's like okay fine that's fine right so we we can now just through executive fiat as in uh not
00:50:54.680
even through executive fiat through through passing just any bill we want because of course
00:50:57.400
the representation of the people okay we'll just repeal that and replace it with yeah i mean this
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i mean this wasn't in the manifesto was it we're literally going to call it representation of the
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taxpayer bill yeah right no of course this wasn't the bloody manifesto no they were scrapping jury
00:51:09.700
trials yes now there was denaturalizing englishmen right none of these things were in in the
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manifesto we're just going to do it yeah representation of the taxpayer bill the right
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to vote is contingent on five years of contiguous tax contributions that are greater than benefits
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deductions and this is how could it be more fair what did they always say about um henry the eighth
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when he was a young man um he was an absolute stallion yes but i think the phrase they used
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was if the lion understood his own strength yes which he he came to he started to realize damn i
00:51:45.520
can just do things oh yeah and this is why they work so hard to make sure that everybody who gets
00:51:52.000
elected is a containment vessel because if they get one government just one government that isn't
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containment it's over yeah it's over they're never the entire post-war liberal project will be gone
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yeah and that's our mission just for anyone wondering we've got to do this and things okay
00:52:13.540
so you've got extending the right to 16 and 17 year olds i mean like like the left will make
00:52:19.720
arguments like well you know uh a 30 year old man going out with a 22 year old woman is exploitative
00:52:25.480
because her brain isn't fully formed until she's 25 but i definitely want her voting at 16 yes it's
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like no that's obviously the government is trying to take advantage of morons right well what about
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foreigners voting in wales in january 2020 do they even need to be in wales or can they just
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do this straight from lagos that's a great question in january 2020 the senate passed
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a new law that means if you're 16 and over and a resident in wales okay then you can vote in the
00:52:53.120
elections and this in 2021 was extended by law to local government elections so it's not even just
00:52:58.880
the devolved parliament of wales now it's all local government if you were a foreigner living
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in wales you get to vote in their elections for some reason sorry like there is there is
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a failure to in in the electoral i mean you can only you can only assume that they're doing this
00:53:17.800
because they think this will keep us in power forever right but in the average british voters
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mind there is a failure to understand that your vote is power your vote is you as literally well
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that's why they want to dilute it as much as possible exactly as radcheck points out in
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starship troopers that is you exercising force over the state the power of selection still does
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reside in our hands and that's why as you say they're trying to dilute it as much as possible
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well if we can just weaken the british public by increasing the number of foreigners and the number
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of morons the number of people who are just literally people who gain from the state and
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not give then we can rule this land forever even if it just declines and degrades i mean a way of
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looking at it is that democracy is just a good proxy for civil war biggest side still wins
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yeah except we don't have to do all the argy-bargy in the shooting yeah you know we just decide okay
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biggest side wins the problem there you go the problem in democracy being a proxy for civil war
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is it assumes two armed combatants yes which basically means men who are capable yeah we go
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back to our this is not proxy for civil war because 60 plus year olds are not going to pick
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up rifles and fight with the 20 to 25 year olds or whatever right that and the half of this electorate
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is women who are not fighting right and nor are the immigrants with incredibly low grip strength
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going to be much of a but not only those the ones with incredibly low grip strength the the literal
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foreigners uh who have got absolutely um where is it they were who've got absolutely no investment
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in the country they're not going to pick up a rifle for the country either although the moment
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this this country has its comeuppance on the economic side and the welfare that's going to
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they're just they're gone exactly they're not going to fight for it you see the viral videos
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all the time yeah of just some you know ethnic minority youth in london or wherever it's like
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would you fight the culture this is my country and it's like yeah they say it themselves this
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is not my country yeah their own words and so as a representation for civil war but done peacefully
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actually democracy is not operating very well no because it's diluted exactly and yeah exactly
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it's been extended to cohorts who would not be involved in the struggle right and so okay well
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actually a modern proxy for that is are you paying your taxes that is the modern proxy for it
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and therefore those people who don't pay their taxes why are we hearing their opinion on these
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things actually they're not involved they're not involved in the struggle they're not upholding
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the state why should they have any say in it and you know i mean don't get me wrong i as a voter
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because i don't get any bloody benefits i'm happy to hear their opinions but when i go to cast my
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vote my vote should be powerful because i pay a god awful amount of tax so my judge should be
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bloody powerful you know proportionally uh anyway if we can have tax bans why can't we have vote
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bans the more tax you pay the more votes you get i don't know there's absolutely no reason why not
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and if all of these things are just up for yeah we're just going to pass another law we're just
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going to change it we're just going to check because i mean like 18 being voting age foreigners
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not voting these are long settled assumptions of democracy we assume that means that this
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democracy belongs to the working people of the country and okay maybe we will extend it to 16
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year olds because maybe some of them work most of them obviously not earning uh more than they
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paying more in tax than they take benefits but like who cares right like they're at least going
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to grow into it because they're our children but to be like yeah no we're just allowing foreigners
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to vote so right what you're saying is this is not our country this is not our democracy this is not
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our state this is just for anyone who just happens to rock up i mean what they want is just rubber
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stamping the existing power structure exactly and it's a precisely that and so no we are at liberty
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to change all of this because they've changed all of this and remember they're proud of their mass
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deportations right they'll just come out and say yeah no no we've we've deported 60 000 people
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earlier now they didn't they deported about 8 000 people and 52 000 people just voluntarily left
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right so they just asked them to leave and they're like yeah okay fine but they i'm glad you clarify
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that the 8,000 just came back again on another boat
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where it was the same guy going around to France?
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in the government to do all of these things the british state has long established that it is a
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good thing to do this absolutely we can denaturalize anyone we like doesn't matter if they were born
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here doesn't matter if they are ethnically english and we don't have to tell them why
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and we can just change who can vote in the next election so we're not worried about the greens
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like getting all the 20 year olds we don't need to worry about that right well and also i don't
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know if you're going to cover this but we can we can censor and arrest anyone who disagrees with
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us as well so we can yeah if i mean not we probably wouldn't even bother doing that but
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the point is they have built us an incredibly coercive toolkit the moment that we get hold of
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this we can actually solve the problems oh yeah yeah in a year so anyway uh basically you can
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just do things the british government does just do things and if nigel farage is offering any of
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these sorts of things and i think that he wouldn't be failing in the way that he is and just to just
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to finish off like three is a long time it's a long time in politics especially now in the age
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of the internet where like i said at the beginning the tectonic plates are shifting things are
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changing and people are hardening right i mean i i i meet lots of regular people who are not
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involved in politics don't know who i am and i hear them talking and they will just talk to me
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and they were talking to people around them i had these conversations happening in real life
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in like the co-op or the tescos yeah people like god did you go into town it was awful isn't it
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awful and and and especially younger people because i mean my whole life i've been hiding
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my power levels amongst normies because it's just easier and then and sometimes i hear i hear a group
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of younger people talking i'm like bloody hell there's the power oh yeah oh yeah they they they