The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 16, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Hi folks, welcome back to another one of our political chats.
00:00:03.180 Things are moving.
00:00:04.980 There's a lot in progress at the moment.
00:00:07.320 You can feel the tectonic plates shifting and new possibilities are being born.
00:00:13.580 I love to see it because...
00:00:14.900 When you say tectonic plate shifting, you basically mean the ice is breaking under Nigel Farage.
00:00:19.600 Yes, actually, that's definitely what's happening.
00:00:21.920 In fact, that's a good place to start is here.
00:00:23.960 As you can see, more in common have this week's polling intentions.
00:00:30.000 hand reform down by five wow and a difference between the conservatives of just three points
00:00:36.820 and labor of just four points that is that is incredible i mean the ming vase is going
00:00:42.940 an easy prediction to make at this point but the next election is going to end up with a coalition
00:00:48.080 of the conservatives and reform and the election after that is going to be a two-way battle between
00:00:53.180 the greens and restore yeah and it's not even clear who the senior partner will be no it's not
00:00:57.360 that's the thing yeah right and how funny would it be if it's keby badenock and and nigel farage
00:01:02.880 has to sit under her i mean genuinely hilarious yeah i mean he'd probably quit but sure yeah i
00:01:08.340 don't think he'd do it'd be too humiliating but as you can see from the previous week a reformer
00:01:12.580 on 30 percent so this one isn't bad this poll isn't too well that's that's from the 7th of april
00:01:18.240 oh that's a week ago so that's a week ago right so in a week according to more in common this is
00:01:22.660 just the same pollster right as far as they're concerned reformed lost five points in a week
00:01:27.900 in a week but the conservatives only gained three i mean that's something but that's that's not that
00:01:31.480 much right and as you can see mapped out that that was then this was a week ago this this is strong
00:01:39.860 result right so you can see the complete shattering reform 200 uh conservatives 145
00:01:48.060 Labour 113.
00:01:49.760 So that would be a coalition.
00:01:51.840 It would have to be.
00:01:52.820 But yeah, so that would be a majority.
00:01:54.740 So that five points
00:01:56.420 is Nigel being Prime Minister or not.
00:02:00.160 By quite a long margin.
00:02:02.620 But he spent the whole last week
00:02:04.440 really doubling down on the triple-lock pension.
00:02:09.180 On everything.
00:02:09.740 But for basically people
00:02:11.180 who were already going to vote for him anyway.
00:02:13.260 Well, if he'd watched last week's episode of this,
00:02:15.620 he'd realise
00:02:16.200 that actually the boomers are not the only people in the country who vote. 0.53
00:02:20.760 No, they're not.
00:02:22.400 They are a large voting bloc.
00:02:23.920 They are the largest.
00:02:24.820 Wrong.
00:02:25.360 But there are something like 35 million voters,
00:02:29.000 and there are 13 of them, 13 million of them.
00:02:31.640 So, just saying. 1.00
00:02:33.760 And how to put this sensitively, the boomers are a wasting asset. 1.00
00:02:37.340 There is an attrition rate there. 1.00
00:02:39.600 Yes.
00:02:39.900 It's not present in the other demographics. 0.99
00:02:41.920 That's correct.
00:02:43.260 Anyway, so, yeah, like I said, that's a massive shift.
00:02:46.200 right five points in a week on this one poll but you say well it's just one poll and don't get me
00:02:51.360 wrong we know but as we as we covered last week they were on 25 percent uh where is it about there
00:02:57.900 25 well now they're on 24 and we called this out from the start we did everyone is catching up to
00:03:04.880 us i mean we called this out when we were looking at the sort of like this dip here we're like oh
00:03:09.160 no this is this is bad this is going in the wrong direction because for us it looks like the upper
00:03:14.600 ceiling of reform should have been about 40 right nigel farage on his own personal uh uh attraction
00:03:21.600 should have been possibly like 15 20 and then you add another sort of 10 of really disgruntled 0.75
00:03:27.740 right-wing people and then you get the sort of mid types who are like oh no god everything's
00:03:32.060 going badly all he had to do was make it look like it was inevitable that the conservatives
00:03:36.120 were going extinct and that wouldn't have been difficult to do yeah instead especially back here
00:03:41.340 yeah back in may 2025 but instead all he's done is made it inevitable that reform are going to
00:03:46.720 decline yes and you can see the conservatives haven't really been benefiting that highly from
00:03:52.260 his decline i mean the benefits are little but like still just but they're in the race i mean
00:03:57.000 they are but they've gone from like you know the low of 17 up to now their new high under kemi
00:04:02.120 they were walking wounded not so long ago sure but and now they're in contention to lead the
00:04:07.320 coalition that will come out the other side of the election when boris won he was on 52
00:04:11.360 just worth remembering i mean there has to be some cost for betraying the country so completely
00:04:20.220 and doing the boris wave um i don't can i can i get i think it was 52 he's on he was really high
00:04:26.780 yeah there we go wow 50 51 cents wow yeah 51 cent so that is just cataclysmic right i mean to be
00:04:36.520 fair he did bring in whatever it was four or five million completely incompatible people who have
00:04:42.800 launched a crime wave on this country and now you can't go for a walk in certain parts of the country
00:04:48.180 without getting stabbed or your daughter raped yeah i mean it was it was a mistake did you see 0.57
00:04:52.580 that uh viral video that went around from the bbc the other day but they'd found a black guy sat
00:04:57.600 outside the um savoy in swindon and so they're like great what do you think about immigration
00:05:02.360 and he's just like well and he's got like a an english accent you know like a southwestern
00:05:07.200 english accent so you know what i hate immigration this country's going to the dogs i can't believe 0.76
00:05:11.240 it it went viral because you know that the bbc were like finally an ethnic minority he'll be
00:05:16.160 immigration it's like look not all of them came in the boris wave yes like a lot of them came 0.88
00:05:20.900 long before the boris wave and liked england as it was and were happy to be like the only minority
00:05:25.220 in the village right well and actually and his grandson is the most likely demographic to get 0.91
00:05:31.600 stabbed yes by the new arrivals absolutely uh anyway so getting back to this as you can see 0.99
00:05:37.020 like we we're saying here the conservatives have gone from 17 to 19 percent but when put in
00:05:43.320 perspective of only six years that is i mean if that were mine i'd be like oh god yeah uh and you
00:05:50.400 can see uh the rise of from you can see where farage uh jumps back in where it's about here
00:05:55.360 look at that rise from reform
00:05:58.600 yeah it's a pretty strong rise
00:06:00.420 and it correlates with Labour and Conservatives
00:06:03.180 going down
00:06:03.920 but is it the entire gap that's been left by this
00:06:07.520 that's the question
00:06:08.360 the answer is probably no right
00:06:09.700 no
00:06:10.220 anyway
00:06:11.120 the other line that's shooting up is the Greens
00:06:13.000 to be fair
00:06:15.200 that's a lot of Labour
00:06:16.480 that's a lot of Labour
00:06:18.260 I mean Farage has captured a lot of Labour support
00:06:20.680 and a lot of Tory support
00:06:21.640 but this is the thing that annoys me
00:06:23.000 about when people say
00:06:23.720 oh Restore isn't going to get anywhere
00:06:25.160 just just look at the history of reform and greens you can come from next to another you
00:06:31.660 can come from below five percent and take and take it all yeah so reform will last at uh say
00:06:37.320 five percent we'll go for in was it march 2023 oh three years ago yeah exactly we're still three
00:06:44.900 years out from the election we'll we'll be fine right and then you just look at that curve though
00:06:49.660 that is gutting that is just gutting for farage like how have you screwed this up mate you you
00:06:56.340 should have been around sort of here right around this area easily comfortably by never count
00:07:02.640 signaling your own base i mean like you can't do that yeah yeah all you have to do is just not
00:07:08.100 count signal your own supporters yes right um i mean look at trump at the moment trump is tanking
00:07:13.800 because oh i'm at war with tucker carlson and marjorie taylor green and all of my most hardcore
00:07:19.360 supporters for the last 10 years yes what are you doing he has carefully looked at his base
00:07:24.360 he's drawn the dividing line and attacked the more popular half of it he's drilling holes in
00:07:30.380 the bottom of his own bloody boat nigel farage is doing the same and the thing is it's like it
00:07:34.500 and it was and it's painful watching trump do it because we are trump supporters absolutely
00:07:38.580 but we but we've seen nigel farage do this for the last two or three years attacking his own
00:07:43.260 support base and we know how it goes it doesn't work out yes it couldn't be said better i mean
00:07:48.840 it feels like trump has genuinely had someone like mind like take over his own squid yeah
00:07:53.920 yeah exactly and so now he's just insane from the standards of like you know any other period
00:08:00.980 of trump's presidencies uh anyway so the point being we know how attacking your own base goes
00:08:05.980 and it goes badly and that is just a brutal curve uh for farage down to 24 as i look what can he do
00:08:11.860 to recover this and the answer is well not really very much right i mean it would certainly help if
00:08:16.620 stopped attacking his own support base but things they're not his own support they're not his support
00:08:20.500 anymore because they've walked exactly and what what would really help is not cramming his party
00:08:25.640 full of tories right that that really wouldn't amongst other groups and yeah and the boris wave
00:08:32.340 itself yes we'll come on to all of that in a minute right because it really is nigel farage
00:08:36.800 just hoisted his own petard here and it is it's really not yeah but you'll notice what's that
00:08:42.100 At the bottom there, on 4%.
00:08:43.540 Oh, an RB.
00:08:45.940 Yeah, that's right.
00:08:48.620 Remember, Restore Britain commissioned a couple of polls themselves
00:08:52.440 where when they were prompted, they were at 7% and 8%.
00:08:55.160 So they averaged at 6% because when unprompted, they end up at 4%.
00:09:00.160 So when you're unprompted, you have to click on other
00:09:02.100 and then you have to type in the party that you want,
00:09:05.240 which shows that not only does this have legs,
00:09:07.660 I mean, Farage's prediction of, oh, you'll only get 1%,
00:09:09.780 well, that's already wrong.
00:09:10.920 Right, yeah, yeah.
00:09:11.640 And it only takes 5% to absolutely tank you
00:09:15.080 and make sure you're not the prime minister.
00:09:16.840 So why did you leave such a vulnerable flank unguarded, Nigel?
00:09:20.180 Because now you're literally getting stabbed in it.
00:09:22.580 Well, he was shooting holes in the flank.
00:09:24.760 Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:09:26.040 You thought you could just crush it.
00:09:27.560 Well, it turns out you actually can't.
00:09:30.340 We'll go back to the one year one, actually.
00:09:32.000 And so, yeah, as you can see there,
00:09:34.540 Restore Britain are now making an impact in the polls,
00:09:36.880 and that's where we want to be.
00:09:38.080 So these are the organic polls at 4%.
00:09:40.400 in fact let's uh let's get on to that um so here we are again unprompted by yougov uh restore
00:09:46.340 britain a solid four percent which is not a bad place to start considering it's what a month old
00:09:51.100 something like that uh so he shows this it's really got some legs so what's fraj doing
00:09:57.380 well he's like oh i mean shibana mahoud is attacking the right from the right through
00:10:07.440 her actions right whether you like labor and shibana mahoud or not she's a very right-wing
00:10:13.660 home secretary oh she's more right-wing than any tory absolutely and we'll get on to exactly how
00:10:18.880 much more right-wing than any bloody tory she is very shortly but she's been very firm actually
00:10:24.180 that no i represent the sort of institutional majesty of the united kingdom and therefore
00:10:31.540 i'm going to use executive powers that the home office and the home secretary has
00:10:35.540 in order to basically brutalize anyone I don't like.
00:10:39.900 Yeah. 0.97
00:10:40.820 I mean, she probably isn't that good, 0.74
00:10:43.040 but she does come across as competent
00:10:47.360 and not, you know, a waste of space. 1.00
00:10:50.360 Yeah.
00:10:50.700 And I mean, like, for example...
00:10:52.500 I mean, the contrast between her and Rachel Reeves,
00:10:53.920 for example, is enormous.
00:10:55.120 Absolutely.
00:10:55.880 I mean, don't get me wrong. 0.89
00:10:56.700 I think her job's a lot easier than Rachel Reeves' job. 0.67
00:10:59.120 Yes.
00:10:59.440 How do you save this economy?
00:11:01.060 I wouldn't want that job.
00:11:03.080 I'd much rather be the home secretary. 1.00
00:11:04.220 it's much easier to just deport foreigners but still they haven't got a handle on the small 1.00
00:11:09.020 boats they haven't got a handle no on um like corruption and the uh yeah um the american 0.97
00:11:16.540 candy shops and the turkish barbers oh yeah i haven't got a handle on the laundering yeah
00:11:20.160 the money laundering all that sort of thing so anyway uh your party went down to zero on this
00:11:24.120 as well i forgot about them yeah everyone does um also uh the your party scotland branch uh just
00:11:33.340 basically disbanded the other day as well i mean bear in mind your party is a placeholder name
00:11:37.660 yeah they'd never got around to name oh no no no i can't make fun of them for not naming it because
00:11:42.100 we haven't actually named this series but i'm still yeah no no they did have a vote oh did
00:11:46.860 they and the vote was for your party right okay fair enough it was a terrible name anyway
00:11:52.780 that's not the name oh okay and then it was voted for as the name and then the party goes there in
00:11:58.960 the polls. So, uh, good prediction from Farage on your party, bad prediction from Farage on
00:12:04.220 restore. Anyway, so, uh, what do you do when everyone is to your right? Well, you have to
00:12:10.900 tack right, uh, because these are the genuine problems of the time. And so reform have posted
00:12:17.460 and Farage did a press conference on this reform will end indefinitely to remain, stop benefits
00:12:22.620 for foreigners and reverse the Boris wave. So that is just almost word for word, Rupert Lowe's
00:12:28.220 rhetoric coming out of the mouth of nigel farage's party yes and he got kicked out of reform for
00:12:34.140 that yeah the only thing is right rupert lowe said it i mean going back to our unprompted thing yes
00:12:41.600 he said it unprompted that's correct nigel farage has said it after spending what it is four five
00:12:47.740 years now telling us that under no circumstances would he ever do these things i'm not for mass
00:12:52.380 deportations until he starts dropping in the polls this can't be done and he sees somebody rising in
00:12:57.660 the polls who is saying it and then he says it which makes me think that possibly this isn't the
00:13:03.940 most sincere statement that i've ever seen well like we've always said about farage he's always
00:13:08.440 behind the crest of the wave yes he's always a follower never a leader and here we are him
00:13:12.600 following once again he for blackadder fans he is the general melchit of of of politics you know
00:13:19.380 him and his drinks cabinet will be following he is actually yeah he is very miles behind the front
00:13:24.260 line no no absolutely the general melcher of british politics is definitely especially as
00:13:30.160 he just seems to not care about his own men no at all uh anyway the point that this made
00:13:39.920 seemed like a good one to people who are not part of reform as in yes we restore voters
00:13:48.080 are going to do that but if you do that isn't there a price to be paid because i can't help
00:13:56.520 but notice that you happen to have the boris wave tories in your party and the boris wave
00:14:03.060 themselves as your candidates yes so do i think you're actually going to end indefinite leave to
00:14:10.720 remain i mean herald scotland were like well hang on a second doesn't that mean that generic and
00:14:15.760 sweller will be hauled in front of your boris wave migration probe i mean for a start do we
00:14:21.580 think that he's actually going to do an inquiry independently on well he did say that he was
00:14:25.740 going to do an inquiry into the grooming gangs and didn't and who did it we put loaded exactly
00:14:31.960 anyway as uh as the herald point out uh zeer yusuf has decided to get tough on all of this
00:14:37.880 um but that means and reform sources have told the express newspaper that the party would therefore
00:14:43.760 have to be looking at it hauling uh dame priti patel as well as swella braveman and robert
00:14:50.720 jenrick and i mean they were instrumental in the boys brave yes jenrick was literally the
00:14:56.160 immigration minister yes and braveman was literally the home secretary like her name
00:15:01.280 is on the letters they get when they say congratulations you're allowed to live in the
00:15:07.400 uk so so so they're gonna they're gonna have this inquiry and people are gonna turn up and say well
00:15:12.360 Look, here's a letter from your Home Secretary.
00:15:16.340 Yes.
00:15:16.980 Who was also the Home Secretary under the Tories.
00:15:18.980 Swell or Braveman, did you sign this?
00:15:20.360 I was like, well, with an auto pen, but yes.
00:15:22.240 Yes.
00:15:23.220 Obviously.
00:15:23.760 I mean, we were issuing tens of thousands of them a day,
00:15:27.460 so I didn't do them all myself.
00:15:28.720 Yes.
00:15:29.180 But yeah, stamp, stamp, stamp.
00:15:30.640 I mean, if you ever get hauled up in front of a judge
00:15:32.840 and your defence is a piece of paper signed by the judge
00:15:35.860 saying that you can do the exact thing that you're in court for,
00:15:41.840 i think you're probably going to win the case it seems likely you're going to walk doesn't it
00:15:46.560 seems likely uh anyway so uh farage has addressed this criticism by the way all right what did he
00:15:53.100 come up with he said that look he wanted the inquiry to uncover whether the rise and migration
00:15:57.660 of the period was just sheer incompetence or whether it's done willfully well we know that's
00:16:02.680 all out there because boris johnson has told everyone i'm sure there was some incompetence
00:16:06.420 he was advised but it was mainly deliberate he was advised by the bank of england that bringing
00:16:11.120 in people they the the europeans were going to leave which they did and they needed to bring
00:16:16.780 in people in order to replace those people because as you've pointed out in the past
00:16:20.240 um the bank of england's calculation for gdp is literally a number of people divided by the amount
00:16:25.740 of money literally well gdp per capita and they assume if they just add more capita it goes up
00:16:31.900 and and the specific thing they were warning him about was that wages will rise yes and he wanted
00:16:38.680 the financial times to like him as in big business didn't want wages rising and so if he just cranks
00:16:44.240 open the floodgates then yes the financial times writes well about you that's true so again we
00:16:50.860 don't actually need an inquiry on this we know it was done with will it wasn't incompetence because
00:16:58.100 actually it's quite difficult to incompetently make this happen frankly if you're incompetent
00:17:03.620 it's more likely that nothing changes right i can believe 300 000 immigration from incompetence i
00:17:10.000 can't believe 1.4 million from incompetence yeah yeah genuinely impossible to fathom it has to have
00:17:17.160 been done deliberately but he says quote of course there are some that will say ah but you've got
00:17:21.500 sweller braven and robert jemmerick in your party he says yes absolutely if you read what sweller
00:17:25.740 has written on this and you read what robert has written on this they tried to stop the disaster
00:17:29.440 that really started properly in 2021 and that's why they resigned or were fired well i mean for
00:17:35.860 swella i will actually buy that right swella i think probably did herself want to reduce the
00:17:42.060 amount of immigration uh and she eventually was fired um robert jenrich did resign eventually
00:17:48.120 but again he was overseeing it but the problem with jenrich is that he actually seems to have
00:17:54.420 had his uh damascene conversion to being based and right-wing relatively late in his political
00:18:00.600 career i mean the gemrick was the immigration minister from 2022 to 2023 and so that means 0.96
00:18:09.340 that only three years ago he was like cram as many afghans into the country as we can well and
00:18:16.060 also when this came to light didn't he write an article that was basically saying yes and i'm
00:18:20.120 proud of it this is that article oh okay right this article was published on september the 4th
00:18:25.780 2025 shall i read some of it yes please quote brave men and women like amadullah and his wife
00:18:35.320 are our new countrymen and women their children are future members of our armed forces teachers
00:18:40.760 doctors and entrepreneurs okay that was what are we uh eight months ago
00:18:49.080 yes i'm not not very convinced by his his conversion to be honest we will do everything
00:18:59.040 we can to ensure their new lives in the uk happy and successful well could we occasionally i know
00:19:05.560 this might sound like a silly idea but occasionally could we try and make sure that the people of
00:19:11.820 britain are happy and successful rather than trying to make everybody else in the world happy
00:19:15.620 unsuccessful best i can do is make sure that one of them murders you in the middle of the street
00:19:19.280 but you can't even do that yeah safi darwood the uh killer of wayne broadhurst you remember
00:19:28.200 watching the video of it as it went around uh actually absolutely brutal just just stabbing
00:19:32.620 him to death in the middle of the street for no goddamn reason yep guess what year uh mr darwood
00:19:39.460 was given indefinitely to remain well it'd be very unfortunate if he was either 24 or 25
00:19:44.800 Well, it was 2022, when he was the immigration minister.
00:19:47.060 Oh, when he was the immigration minister, okay.
00:19:49.920 Oh.
00:19:51.240 So, and then years later, two years later, he's still like,
00:19:56.620 yeah, well, I mean, we need to get as many Afghan refugees in as we can.
00:20:00.420 Yeah.
00:20:01.500 Yeah. 0.99
00:20:02.300 It's always about making everybody else, apart from the British people,
00:20:07.220 wealthier, happier.
00:20:09.580 And the thing is, it wasn't even, so for anyone who doesn't know, by the way,
00:20:13.640 uh robert jamerick and the conservative government smuggled in somewhere in the region of 50 to 250
00:20:18.700 thousand afghans we don't know how many right and i say smuggled because they literally put a gag
00:20:24.100 order on the media and yes we didn't find out about it for years yeah it was in 2025 we found
00:20:28.680 out about which is why he wrote his uh we need to welcome afghan refugees this is a national project
00:20:34.600 i mean and the other thing on him of course is i'd note that he's he's becoming apparently based
00:20:39.580 occurred only after he had lost the leadership of the Conservative Party.
00:20:44.780 Yes.
00:20:45.300 And it had become apparent that the Conservative Party was going down in flames
00:20:49.500 and that if he wanted to maintain a political career,
00:20:52.700 he had to change his worldview
00:20:54.480 and then he could go to another party and have a career there.
00:20:59.880 Remember, he only actually joined the Reform Party
00:21:02.280 when Kemi Badenoch kicked him out.
00:21:04.440 And that, yes.
00:21:05.620 Physically ejected him.
00:21:07.520 So he was like, Nigel Farage was like, oh, brilliant.
00:21:09.580 another tory yes i mean what's he going to do go and get a proper job no well yeah yeah absolutely
00:21:14.480 uh but this this this one is particularly bizarre because it's like okay if safi dalwood was one of
00:21:21.380 those afghan interpreters that we had so many tens of thousands of who had served with the british
00:21:26.960 army in afghanistan for you know whether you agree with that or not and maybe you can understand
00:21:31.540 that jenrik would be like yeah yeah okay he did work with us we're going to have him in
00:21:35.220 But that's not the case.
00:21:36.780 He broke into the country in 2020 by hanging on the back of a lorry.
00:21:40.700 So why give him indefinite leave to remain?
00:21:43.800 Oh, this guy got indefinite leave to remain?
00:21:45.820 Yes, in 2022.
00:21:47.760 I think under Robert Gemmery.
00:21:48.920 By a legal entry.
00:21:49.180 I'll find the exact date.
00:21:50.620 By a legal entry, yeah. 0.95
00:21:52.040 Other countries, I mean, apart from the mental handful of European ones,
00:21:56.660 other countries would just not do this.
00:21:58.920 Yeah, there'd be no reason to.
00:22:00.400 You broke into the country. 1.00
00:22:01.840 Try doing this in an Asian or an Arab country.
00:22:04.220 Don't be mad. 1.00
00:22:05.220 yeah like you you'd be flogged probably and then chucked out but yeah so he he snuck in on the back
00:22:10.980 of a lorry and then two years later jenrich's like yeah you can stay here's a rubber stamp
00:22:14.720 so oh great and then three years after that he's like yeah i think i'm just gonna murder
00:22:19.460 because the hope was that safi would have helped keep wages down to stop british people's wages
00:22:27.620 from going up and if he just brutally murdered someone in the middle of the street for no reason
00:22:32.860 whatsoever well that is a price worth paying to make sure that your wages don't go up
00:22:37.060 that is literally what the conservative government of which generic was the immigration minister
00:22:44.580 thought it is literally their thought process so yes that is is exactly what happened i think it's
00:22:51.920 worth uh understanding the scale of the boris waves or someone's uh oh yeah someone's uh pointed
00:22:57.880 it out like this this is just preposterous right so these these were the ones who granted indefinite
00:23:03.460 leave to remain out of the four million who are allowed in so there are lots of people who are
00:23:07.980 given to the red bar of the boris wave indefinitely to remain so the gray bar is still bigger yeah
00:23:13.000 the gray bar is the number of indefinite leave to remain grants given from 1960 to 2025 oh oh well
00:23:20.520 it doesn't look that much bigger when you realize that the one on the left is 65 years and the other
00:23:24.580 one is is is two or three this this one this is the projected number from the boris wave that could
00:23:30.260 be allowed to just stay right after the irl so uh ilr sorry so as you can see right the boris wave
00:23:38.060 at about well two million say yeah is most of the ilr grants given over the entire course of
00:23:45.800 immigration into this country right it's a huge chunk out of it and that includes like tony blair's
00:23:51.760 government yes about half of it right which at the time we thought was mental on immigration yeah
00:23:57.360 and and that's the ones between in the next four years who are going to just be given citizenship
00:24:02.220 wow and it's just like okay this like again like charlie points out like you just don't understand
00:24:08.940 just how many people this was right i mean that you know six million nearly in you know uh 60
00:24:17.020 year period 65 year period that's a lot you know they shouldn't have been doing that but cranking
00:24:23.140 it up which is what they're going to do until starma is kicked out of office but it's still
00:24:27.140 a million a decade not a million a year yeah so it's just brutal right so anyway going back to
00:24:34.180 reform uh they're gonna they're gonna do something about the boris wave but are they because of
00:24:38.140 course they're gonna have to say well sorry mr jenrik you were responsible for the boris wave
00:24:43.120 we're going to make you the chancellor of the exchequer for some reason and you are a member
00:24:48.320 of the Boris wave we're going to make sure that you're given political power in this country as
00:24:54.060 a councillor yeah I mean of all the people to defend right and I'm not saying this guy's done
00:24:59.880 anything wrong but it does seem preposterous to be sourcing your political candidates from overseas
00:25:04.960 in the middle of the political event that you're promising to undo we're here to reverse the 0.79
00:25:11.440 are you nigel or who's going to be doing it well mr um sorry what was this guy's name 0.63
00:25:17.400 oh yeah adi mo adu zuzaman why did you not remember that carl yeah i know it just didn't
00:25:26.060 roll off the tongue for some reason um but yeah so the leader of reform uk in portsmouth uh is it
00:25:31.080 back after the party was criticized for selecting a bangladeshi man this is the literal bbc text i'm
00:25:36.960 reading uh to stand in next year city council elections he's here on a student visa oh no
00:25:43.160 sorry no sorry he has uh he was here i think on a student visa but he's got indefinitely to remain
00:25:47.040 now oh of course so uh of course he has yeah i mean entirely possible that jenrik gave him that
00:25:51.720 too uh and lots of people on social media were like well why are foreigners allowed to stand
00:25:57.460 in our elections yeah and that's a great question and i assume it's because in previous eras like
00:26:04.300 go back a hundred years when elections started the number of foreigners in the country was
00:26:08.040 literally so marginal it wouldn't have occurred to them to rule that out exactly yeah it's literally
00:26:13.180 like john if we were writing i mean maybe we would now maybe a little bit but if we were writing a
00:26:18.480 constitution in the year 2000 we probably wouldn't have said oh um ai agents can't be elected
00:26:24.160 councillors you it wouldn't occur to you but that could actually be a thing in a hundred years that's
00:26:27.760 a great point and not even a hundred years like that could probably be a thing relatively soon
00:26:31.520 you have literal robots standing for election i mean i'd probably prefer them to be honest but
00:26:35.220 yes absolutely i have a much better relationship with chat gpt um but that's the point is it just
00:26:41.520 wasn't in the mind of people at the time uh so anyway another thing that's interesting about
00:26:46.820 this is that reform are not necessarily committed to farage right now this is not the only polling
00:26:51.220 on the subject but reform restore did a poll uh through uh find out now i think it was and one of
00:26:58.200 the things that was revealed was who would you like uh most prefer to be the prime minister from
00:27:02.500 2024 reform uk voters and less than half of them said nigel sorry this is this is only sampling
00:27:09.800 reform voters yes and a third of them said rupert lowe correct and only half of them
00:27:15.720 said nigel farage 16 but like none of the above
00:27:19.360 one percent one well that's an interesting category the one percent said i'm gonna vote
00:27:26.580 I'm going to vote for reform, but I want Keir Starmer to be Prime Minister.
00:27:29.880 That is intriguing.
00:27:31.520 I want to meet the 1% who said Ed Davey.
00:27:34.320 Yeah, what's going on there?
00:27:35.240 I mean, do that many Lib Dems want him to be the Prime Minister?
00:27:38.480 At least none of them said Zach Polanski, so that's encouraging.
00:27:42.060 That is, yeah.
00:27:43.240 When a third of your own supporters want somebody else to win,
00:27:50.720 that tells you something, doesn't it?
00:27:52.000 It shows you that the decline in the polls is organic.
00:27:54.820 you've done this to yourself
00:27:56.740 and what are reforming the polls at the moment
00:27:59.300 like 25%
00:28:00.340 so 30% of that
00:28:02.760 so they've basically got
00:28:05.400 like another 7-8 points
00:28:07.220 that is just waiting to go
00:28:09.380 over to restore
00:28:10.180 which combined with
00:28:13.400 their existing 4 points
00:28:14.700 that puts them at 12%
00:28:16.700 and then you get the kind of
00:28:19.000 rush effect which is what happened to reform
00:28:21.200 where everyone's like oh yeah this party's collapsing
00:28:23.620 they're not going to win
00:28:24.500 I'll just go
00:28:25.060 if restore
00:28:26.060 go from nothing
00:28:27.060 to 12%
00:28:28.080 in the space of a year
00:28:29.040 which
00:28:29.400 would be incredible
00:28:30.540 yeah but it looks like
00:28:31.940 it could actually happen
00:28:32.760 yes
00:28:33.140 the momentum of that
00:28:34.780 well
00:28:35.740 yeah
00:28:36.180 one thing we've been saying is
00:28:37.360 we don't think Farage
00:28:38.240 is the kind of guy
00:28:38.780 to stick it out
00:28:39.280 to the grid end
00:28:40.220 right
00:28:40.580 so however it ends
00:28:42.260 it won't end with Farage
00:28:44.120 because it will go down
00:28:45.360 to like 15% or something
00:28:46.540 and he'll just be like
00:28:47.080 okay fine I'll quit
00:28:48.080 and then hand
00:28:48.820 who do you hand over to
00:28:49.640 you can hand over to
00:28:50.300 Richard Tice
00:28:50.800 who is a charisma vacuum 0.86
00:28:52.040 Zia Yusuf
00:28:53.400 Zia Yusuf, I mean, is that going to work?
00:28:56.300 Really?
00:28:56.800 Is that going to work, Zia Yusuf?
00:28:58.060 Are you going to hand it over to Robert Jenrick,
00:29:01.380 who Mr. Boris Wave?
00:29:03.600 Couldn't even get elected in his own conservative party.
00:29:06.540 Yes.
00:29:07.560 They chose Kemi Badenock over him.
00:29:09.600 Yes.
00:29:10.640 So as soon as Farage, a lot of people dislike him,
00:29:14.220 which kind of places a cap on him.
00:29:16.360 And even his own supporters, a lot of them want Rupert Lowe.
00:29:19.720 Yes.
00:29:20.020 So when he goes...
00:29:21.280 It's going to collapse.
00:29:22.180 Yeah.
00:29:22.360 It's going to pancake.
00:29:23.140 And honestly, that's fine, because that works for us.
00:29:27.140 But it also is interesting how he is losing to the Greens already.
00:29:34.000 So the Greens recently won a by-election,
00:29:37.420 because a reform councillor was given a 12-month prison sentence
00:29:41.040 for being controlling or coercive to his wife.
00:29:43.380 I don't know anything about it.
00:29:45.560 A reform councillor was?
00:29:47.160 Yeah.
00:29:47.820 So he could be Bangladeshi, then?
00:29:49.020 It could just be normal cultural practice?
00:29:51.720 Well, this was in Thanet.
00:29:53.820 Now, Thanet, for anyone who doesn't know,
00:29:55.600 is still a leafy, normal part of England.
00:29:58.180 Oh, okay.
00:29:58.820 Where Nigel has failed to win seven times.
00:30:02.460 Yes, he kept on trying to run for MP there, didn't he?
00:30:04.860 Yeah, I don't know why he kept choosing Thanet.
00:30:07.000 But anyway, so yeah, I mean, like,
00:30:08.460 percentage white British, 83.6 in the 2020 census,
00:30:12.820 7.2% Muslim, and only sort of 10% non-English speaking.
00:30:17.700 So it's mostly a white British area still. 0.79
00:30:19.680 oh wait okay so it could have been the bad kind of abusively controlling your wife and not the 0.55
00:30:23.780 kind that we permit not the politically correct kind yeah yeah yeah absolutely um so but this
00:30:29.060 this goes to show that even in the majority white british areas that are doing quite well i mean i
00:30:34.660 suppose is why they're going to the greens but uh but this goes to show that actually um the greens
00:30:40.760 are not just the student vote no right no good point and so uh rupert lowe his tack towards no
00:30:48.260 young people are getting a really stiff deal here
00:30:50.880 and we need to help them, is actually
00:30:52.860 far smarter than Farage's
00:30:54.520 triple locking the pensions and you're literally going to be
00:30:57.000 sucked dry like a vampire.
00:30:58.640 If you are already going to vote for me, I'm going to
00:31:01.140 lock down your vote
00:31:02.280 and while trying to shed everybody else.
00:31:05.780 Yeah.
00:31:08.640 Very peculiar.
00:31:10.780 Anyway, so
00:31:11.520 yeah, he got 39% of the vote.
00:31:13.860 And it was just a local count.
00:31:15.380 39%, wow.
00:31:16.420 Yeah, you've got 39% of the vote.
00:31:17.880 There's a local council election in Thanet.
00:31:20.860 So, I mean, you can't count the Greens out, right?
00:31:23.980 Because they're running a good propaganda campaign,
00:31:27.360 if nothing else.
00:31:28.580 And so you really have to give them their credit on this.
00:31:30.760 Labour have actually done some things that are all right,
00:31:33.460 but they've failed to communicate it.
00:31:35.280 Yes.
00:31:35.700 They've completely failed to communicate it.
00:31:36.780 They don't even seem to bother.
00:31:38.200 Even their wins.
00:31:40.360 Yeah, they don't make a big deal.
00:31:41.640 Mind you, all of their wins are things that don't appeal
00:31:44.860 to their own MPs.
00:31:46.060 yeah they're right wing wins yeah yeah yeah which is i mean it's good to check make the
00:31:50.380 conservatives and farage but that's not where the labor vote is going yeah and this is a point that
00:31:56.340 people have been making and saying well hang on a second um look at what the concerns are in the
00:32:01.340 country right the economy 55 which most people share literally 55 but immigration is the second
00:32:07.840 of 47 and the only reason that the economy has gone above immigration is because of the iran war
00:32:14.040 and how things are going right right the the the squeeze has been continual since covid and so the
00:32:20.660 economy has been uh where is it uh the red one right the economy has been a big deal especially
00:32:26.220 during the covid years and after the covid years but the immigration thing has been really persistent
00:32:31.300 because oh actually boris because we thought with brexit immigration was over right that's what
00:32:36.800 people generally thought and no no no oh no there are loads of oh my god it's mental right yep so
00:32:42.720 immigration in the economy to intimately connected issues as we saw from boris's i mean i'd have a
00:32:48.600 hard time picking between those two absolutely depends what what mood you catch me in as to
00:32:52.740 which one i answer depends whether i had to pay a bill or i got stopped in the street by some
00:32:57.140 foreigner but the point is as you said they're intimately connected these people were brought
00:33:02.500 here to depress your wages yes they were like these are the same issue they're just two sides 0.64
00:33:07.220 of the coin there's the right side and the left side of the coin i mean you could you could just
00:33:11.260 combine them and put it under the system is rigged against you exactly exactly and so farage
00:33:17.180 decided yeah i'm going to go for the the boomers and their pensions but the zach polanski types 0.98
00:33:23.440 are going for the economy they're saying no we're going to make it rip off britain is a good slogan
00:33:27.680 because we are in rip off britain and him saying well it's the mysterious absent billionaires
00:33:33.260 they're doing it in a way yes but not in the way that he will ever admit as in it's the billionaires
00:33:38.820 pressuring the government to bringing infinite amount of foreigners
00:33:41.640 to exploit for cheap labour. 0.97
00:33:43.680 So all of these things are connected,
00:33:45.380 but the Greens can only speak about one half of the subject.
00:33:48.220 So if Rupert Lowe and the Restore Party can speak about both sides of the subject...
00:33:51.880 Well, that's a superpower.
00:33:53.180 It's magic, yeah.
00:33:55.700 And the young people in this country are basically voting Green
00:34:02.080 because, I think, purely economic reasons, right? 0.80
00:34:04.860 So that's how Britain would vote by age.
00:34:06.700 uh 33 as you can tell by the 70 plus or reform 60 69 uh 36 percent uh the 60 69 to 36 percent
00:34:14.640 reform 50 59 31 percent reform so this is pension voters right people who are like no i either have
00:34:21.480 my pension or i'm getting it soon i'm voting for it that that anecdote by harry that he shared on
00:34:25.900 the podcast the other week i mean that was golden when he when he met that mate of his yeah who um
00:34:31.260 who said yeah i'm voting for the green party and then after that he said oh and by the way i found
00:34:35.740 or twitter and i agree with everything i mean it's it's it's it's a young man who who is right
00:34:42.860 wing he just agrees with all the right stuff but he doesn't have an offering on the right
00:34:46.560 he just knows the economy is screwed and and look at look at 70 plus yeah it's it's a competition
00:34:53.420 between the um pensioners party and the pensioners party in slightly different colors yeah yeah this
00:35:00.300 is this is buying this is you know this is buying a ford cortina and you've just got down to the
00:35:04.640 choice of what color you want it in two-thirds of 70 pluses and nearly the same with boomers
00:35:10.040 are voting pensions yes that's just it this is literally all we do we vote for our pensions
00:35:14.660 and so and so i mean the the question for the store is do you want to come along and be the
00:35:19.200 third right-wing party competing for 15 of the population 10 of the population sorry yeah and
00:35:26.500 but look at the the young people by uh conversely uh you've got the the labor and greens says half
00:35:33.920 of them, more than half of them, nearly two-thirds of them, saying, I need some money from the
00:35:39.220 wealthy. I need some sort of wealth redistribution. I need the boomer grandparents to give me some
00:35:44.360 money. Now, it's either going to be done by the state stealing your money, or maybe you could
00:35:49.280 sell your big house so I could buy it, and you could move into a two-bedroom bungalow and have
00:35:54.820 a nice, comfortable life on the rest of the earnings. But no, for some reason, the boomers 1.00
00:35:59.820 are locking up their properties, and that means that the young is just like, well, I'm going to 0.99
00:36:03.320 have to turn to the government then i mean stamp duty really doesn't help i mean the government
00:36:06.500 yeah i mean one of the things that kemi bay not promised just to get rid of stamp duty
00:36:11.260 great idea yep that's a good policy great idea brilliant idea i mean they can't because it's
00:36:16.460 12 billion a year and they're already running a massive deficit so you're gonna have to cut
00:36:21.140 something i'm in favor of cutting a lot of things well yes yes but you are right they they can't
00:36:27.220 But you can see where the younger people are like,
00:36:30.860 no, we need some kind of redistribution here.
00:36:34.840 And the older people are like, we refuse to do any distribution. 1.00
00:36:38.200 Well, I mean, actually, to be fair,
00:36:40.760 an older person might hear that
00:36:42.620 and think the young people are being commies.
00:36:44.500 No.
00:36:45.300 There is redistribution taking place right now.
00:36:48.000 The other way.
00:36:48.740 The other way, yeah. 1.00
00:36:49.480 Yeah, your triple lock vampirism is sucking their wealth out. 0.66
00:36:53.100 So let's pick a peak boomer year, 1956.
00:36:55.660 if you were born in 1956 and you're the median of that generation of that cohort
00:37:00.140 300 000 pounds gets transferred by the state to you over the course of your lifetime we are we are
00:37:09.600 what we are doing is we're taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich and i i saw i saw
00:37:14.300 um some numbers of that i hadn't verified them but it was something like for every pound a boomer
00:37:19.560 has paid they get paid one pound 20 by the state so it's literally you are getting more than you
00:37:25.040 ever put in yes and you're getting it from the young people now who are in a terrible economy 1.00
00:37:29.240 who are having their wages deliberately depressed by mass immigration and all of the other you know
00:37:34.000 the petrol prices through the roof energy prices through the roof because Ed Miliband's crazy
00:37:39.040 green stuff and all this sort of thing these guys have nowhere to go like they're desperate you can
00:37:44.160 understand why they'd be desperate and I know people in the comments will be pushing back and
00:37:47.480 saying oh actually UK pensions are lower than the other G7 countries yeah that's because in this
00:37:52.280 country you get a blend of cash and services you just get i mean the nhs for example most of its
00:37:58.960 budget is pensioners yes so you are so the proportion that we spend on that 10 of the
00:38:04.540 population is the same as other g7 countries is just not all cash yes and this is just to be
00:38:11.940 clear the wealthiest cohorts that have ever lived as well one in five of them are millionaires yeah
00:38:17.000 and the next so the top quintile of millionaires and the next quintile down uh it's like 900 000
00:38:23.780 yes uh yeah yeah exactly that's that's not not like you know and then four out of five are on
00:38:29.000 you know 13 grand a year or something the median the median has a net worth of half a million yeah
00:38:33.940 it's i mean don't go wrong good for them yes but it's time to think of yourselves as part of a
00:38:38.620 civilization now and yes grandchildren are really having a hard time and well the proportion of
00:38:45.260 people who are um married and a homeowner by 30 used to be 50 in 1960 and now it's five percent
00:38:53.320 yeah so come on guys you know you've got to be honest about what's going on and you know i'm not
00:38:58.760 saying that no boomer can ever have a pension you know means test it if your current you know
00:39:03.640 wealth and your monthly income is below a certain threshold yes you get a pension if it's above that
00:39:08.660 no you don't get a pension do it do it for the bottom quintile yeah because they've only got a
00:39:12.040 net worth 150 grand yeah there we go that's fine totally happy with it everyone you know that way 0.88
00:39:16.780 you don't have to be a vampiric generation upon the young and everyone wins it would be good
00:39:21.880 anyway so like like you were saying uh there's definitely scope for a sensible right-wing party
00:39:27.180 to say no there needs to be an accord here actually yeah uh where we help out the people
00:39:31.880 who need helping and on both ends of the spectrum frankly and those people who don't need helping
00:39:36.720 don't need helping so let's get on with it if you're a millionaire you should not be getting
00:39:41.460 benefits and that's the current situation yeah i mean you know like the fact that 53 percent of
00:39:46.300 the country are net beneficiaries of the state and not taxpayers is just mad anyway so the point
00:39:51.980 being no one's really happy right tom howard actually made a good point here which i'm
00:39:56.020 loathe to say which is uh everyone's taking a plunge basically oh the dotted the dotted line
00:40:01.620 is zero yeah everybody is underwater by a long way and even like zach polanski's on minus 19
00:40:08.840 because the thing about Kimmy Badenock, Ed Davey, and Zach Palancey
00:40:12.140 is that most people don't know who they are, right?
00:40:14.880 And so when you get this, you've got a sort of like, you know,
00:40:17.640 their 20 or 30% of the supporters who will be like,
00:40:20.740 yeah, no, I really like them.
00:40:21.680 And then sort of like 20 or 30% of people who are politically engaged
00:40:24.000 are like, no, I hate that guy.
00:40:25.080 And then you've got about 30, 34% in the middle who are like,
00:40:27.840 I don't know who that is.
00:40:28.880 And the more exposure Zach Palancey is getting,
00:40:32.640 the more he's going down.
00:40:34.060 The more Kimmy Badenock gets, the more she's going down.
00:40:36.420 Ed Davey's gone down.
00:40:37.600 Nigel Farage has, you know, always been down, really.
00:40:40.820 And Keir Starmer, of course, is literally at the bottom of the ocean.
00:40:44.620 So, yeah, nobody's happy.
00:40:47.300 Nobody's happy with any of this.
00:40:49.220 So, assuming things carry on as they carry on,
00:40:53.700 I think that your prediction that it will be Greens versus Restore in three years' time
00:40:58.500 is going to come to pass. 0.73
00:41:00.580 I do think that's a good prediction, and we can see the signs of it already.
00:41:04.760 so let's assume that the country is made mostly of sensible people and they say yeah okay we're
00:41:12.740 going to vote restore we get restore government well what can we actually do and the answer is
00:41:16.700 a lot because a lot of precedent has been made recently what are you thinking of well let's talk
00:41:22.620 about some precedents so stripping citizenship is a precedent that has been made recently for
00:41:28.780 someone who is not a terrorist he was a policeman wasn't he he was a former policeman that's correct
00:41:33.540 seems to have married he seems to be a bit of a russia boo so he married a russian woman moved
00:41:38.520 to russia got russian citizenship uh he's been fair enough people people travel all over the
00:41:43.200 world yeah he's been like arrested at the airport a few times interrogated had his devices taken
00:41:49.800 but he's on account of marrying a russian girl and living in russia yeah on the account they
00:41:54.120 assume he was like some russian asset or something but they've checked all of his devices he's never
00:41:58.580 been you know charged with anything let alone convicted of anything yeah and shabana mahoud
00:42:03.600 for some reason has just uh quote in the interest of national security revoked his british passport
00:42:08.800 wait so so we can just take a passport off anyone we like for not actually committing any crime or
00:42:17.680 doing any terrorism just because we want to yeah well that's going to come in handy yeah it is
00:42:23.180 and what's really i'll read some more of this because this is this is really fascinating this
00:42:26.880 an incredible test case right so you former policeman so not some sort of like doped up
00:42:31.480 loser or something right former policeman right okay he'd been on russian exchange programs where
00:42:36.000 the russians sent a policeman over here and we sent a policeman over there oh so that so that's
00:42:39.200 so so we germinated his interest in the first place i don't know possibly right you know
00:42:44.440 but we um this this is a chap called mark bullen so just englishman right had his british passport
00:42:52.740 revoked on information which would not be made public in the interest of national security
00:42:56.680 according to Abana Mahmood.
00:42:59.540 We're not going to tell you
00:43:00.540 why we did it.
00:43:02.760 He's not been charged
00:43:03.660 with anything.
00:43:04.800 Well, I can think
00:43:05.940 of 15 million people
00:43:07.260 for whose passport
00:43:09.180 I might want to take away.
00:43:10.760 For reasons I'm not going to be...
00:43:11.720 Yeah, and I'm not going to take away.
00:43:12.600 In the interest of national security.
00:43:14.020 Yes.
00:43:14.740 But it's also kind of sinister
00:43:16.220 because now you have 1.00
00:43:17.480 a native-born Englishman
00:43:18.740 who is deprived of his citizenship
00:43:20.840 by a Pakistani Muslim woman. 0.99
00:43:22.820 Yes.
00:43:24.300 I mean, that is a
00:43:25.720 very concerning i mean i i get a similar feeling whenever i come back through heathrow or gatwick
00:43:30.600 and the people who are checking to see if i can come in yeah can barely speak the boris wave
00:43:37.180 literally the boris wave yes it's just like but this is the home secretary who again a very
00:43:44.460 right-wing thing to do so it sets an interesting precedent um you are being deprived of your uk
00:43:51.600 nationality on the grounds that to do so is conducive to the public good says shabana great
00:43:56.900 okay i'm i'm making a note yeah that's that's the wording you use it's just we're not going to tell
00:44:01.940 you why it's conducive to the public good yeah that's right it is except it'll actually be it
00:44:06.340 will be when we do it yes yes who's public good uh bullen shared the letter online so he was just
00:44:11.920 like he messed up saying is this a joke of course he hasn't been convicted of any crimes uh he was
00:44:20.680 the first person to be stripped of his
00:44:22.620 citizenship in relation to suspected
00:44:24.800 links to the Kremlin.
00:44:26.440 The only other high-profile
00:44:28.560 recent case is Shemima Begin, and she
00:44:30.460 literally was a Muslim woman who joined the Islamic
00:44:32.700 state. She ran
00:44:34.740 off to join head choppers 0.64
00:44:36.540 of British soldiers. She was a
00:44:38.540 morality enforcer for ISIS as well. 0.97
00:44:41.000 She used to run around with an AK-47 0.99
00:44:42.220 enforcer. And that's equal to some 1.00
00:44:44.500 guy who got the hots for some 1.00
00:44:46.140 tall-leggy blonde girl.
00:44:48.680 Who among us can say otherwise? 0.95
00:44:51.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly it.
00:44:53.480 He said, they sent me this document
00:44:54.800 and they said you can appeal the decision,
00:44:56.160 but the trial will be closed and secret.
00:44:58.500 We won't show you the evidence.
00:45:00.300 You won't know exactly what you're accused of.
00:45:03.700 We can do that.
00:45:05.780 They're doing it right now.
00:45:07.200 They're doing it right now to an Englishman.
00:45:09.700 So they basically just armed us
00:45:11.960 with everything we need
00:45:14.000 to fully reverse not only the Boris wave,
00:45:16.400 but we could go back to 1997
00:45:17.620 if we want to with this precedent.
00:45:19.040 Go back to 1948 if we wanted to.
00:45:22.260 We could go back to, like, Henry VIII's Black Trumpeter, 0.96
00:45:25.540 Reasonable Black Man, if we wanted to. 0.61
00:45:28.400 There's no statutes on any of this. 0.99
00:45:31.540 They've literally just handed the right,
00:45:33.600 the ability to denaturalise everyone in the country,
00:45:37.040 keep it secret, and then just deport them.
00:45:39.460 I think Shabana Mahmood deserves a Christmas card from me. 1.00
00:45:43.100 This is fantastic.
00:45:45.080 I mean, that is just mad, the nature of the country now, though, right?
00:45:49.040 The trial will be closed and secret,
00:45:52.860 and we won't show you the evidence.
00:45:54.280 You won't even know what you're accused of.
00:45:56.860 The right to face one's accuser
00:46:00.380 is a core principle of English justice.
00:46:04.760 But of course, like with David Lammy in the jury trials,
00:46:08.280 which in fact we'll get to next, actually.
00:46:10.780 I mean, David Lammy wanting to get rid of jury trials.
00:46:13.240 Why would he care about a core tenet of English justice?
00:46:15.860 this he's a tureg man as his book tribes tells us shibana mahmoud is a pakistani muslim woman who
00:46:23.780 for is for whom islam is the guiding principle of everything she does as she told us well for me
00:46:29.980 it's the magna casa and the english judicial system and legal system there's the guiding
00:46:35.200 principle i think of how my country should be operating under but i mean under that under
00:46:40.120 reprobocity here a native english man can strip a pakistani woman and a ugandan man
00:46:46.040 citizenship what's their argument against it well given that they've been doing it themselves
00:46:52.280 exactly but not only that given how they gave reasons so broad yes we could just cite them
00:47:00.140 back it's conducive to the public good mr lammy miss mahmoud yes it is conducive to the public
00:47:05.740 good we're not going to tell you what that is we're not going to tell you why yes we're not
00:47:09.020 going to show you any evidence we're not even going to tell you what you're accused of but
00:47:12.620 trust us it's conducive for the public good and so we're going to do it that's that's where we're
00:47:17.580 at now as a country like isn't that just mad it's just mad but this is but all the same thank you
00:47:24.640 very much for the precedent yeah exactly if you can do it then we can do it this is the country
00:47:28.980 we live in and when we gain control of it this is what you get i mean he like uh mr bullen here
00:47:34.000 says it's like east germany it's which it is yeah an undemocratic country no lawyer no phone no
00:47:40.160 water a nice cold room if someone had allowed to describe the situation to me when i was working
00:47:44.480 the police and asked is this allowed i would have answered of course not it's illegal but now it is 0.58
00:47:49.380 again he was a former police officer it's not like he's some you know like bomb throwing jihadi
00:47:55.240 yeah it's not like he's an isis enforcer i think yeah mad isn't it uh a home office spokesman though
00:48:04.240 said quote deprivation of british citizenship is a vital tool used to protect the uk from some of
00:48:10.400 its most dangerous people including those involved in terrorism hostile state or activity or serious
00:48:15.800 organized crime well which of those is he oh they are we we don't know i assume hostile state
00:48:22.700 activity right but who what what community is involved in serious organized crime well
00:48:29.600 the trafficking of young girls to be pimped around the country to be raped and pimped around the
00:48:34.820 country well that's serious organized crime and as rupert lois said if that means entire
00:48:39.960 communities go then so be it the millions in fact so yeah the next thing they've decided is
00:48:47.160 they want to scrap jury trials,
00:48:48.580 which, I mean,
00:48:50.200 I think is abominable.
00:48:52.200 Really, on a spiritual level,
00:48:54.000 I hate this.
00:48:55.360 I'd rather lose my right to vote
00:49:00.160 than lose jury trials.
00:49:01.460 Gotcha.
00:49:02.280 Gotcha.
00:49:03.140 Because they can just come for you
00:49:04.260 for any damn thing now.
00:49:06.480 And apparently,
00:49:07.160 they don't have to tell you
00:49:07.840 what that thing is.
00:49:08.840 And all of these laws, by the way,
00:49:09.980 they're putting under the Conservatives.
00:49:11.620 So, thank you.
00:49:12.200 It doesn't surprise me.
00:49:13.200 Thanks, Conservatives, for that.
00:49:15.620 Again, brilliant.
00:49:16.400 but then you've got other structural things that they've decided no no okay so the the legal system
00:49:22.420 the uh the the way the government connects to citizenship we can do whatever hell we like there
00:49:29.060 which okay great news for when we win right but the next thing is the electoral system itself
00:49:34.400 right remember they have given 16 and 70 year olds the 17 year olds the right they can just
00:49:39.660 change that whenever they're down where i want oh we can just mess around with the right to vote can
00:49:42.860 we yep oh brilliant so step one we win the election step two we change voting to only being
00:49:48.940 people of net taxpayers well literally change it to net taxpayers so that way yeah actually that 0.54
00:49:55.020 would do it yeah yeah that way sorry boomers you're not net taxpayers there go your public 0.51
00:50:00.540 sector public sector gone right unemployed gone yeah people who literally contribute nothing to 0.65
00:50:07.100 the country gone and we'll see what actually a participatory democracy looks like right people
00:50:12.480 who are actually holding the system up what do they want and what will that do that will
00:50:16.960 incentivize people to become the kind of person who holds the system up and not be someone who
00:50:21.560 drains out of it and you know and at the end of the day if you're like no i'm just going to be
00:50:25.480 unemployed fine i'm just going to be on my pension fine that's totally fine we just don't care about 0.97
00:50:29.680 how you think the country should be run because as we saw from the goddamn boomers we know you just 0.51
00:50:35.740 think give us more money right we know you're just voting for your pensions yes right okay no we're 0.89
00:50:41.340 we're not accusing all boomers no yes but two-thirds yes are just voting for their pensions
00:50:46.940 it's like okay fine that's fine right so we we can now just through executive fiat as in uh not
00:50:54.680 even through executive fiat through through passing just any bill we want because of course
00:50:57.400 the representation of the people okay we'll just repeal that and replace it with yeah i mean this
00:51:01.720 i mean this wasn't in the manifesto was it we're literally going to call it representation of the
00:51:05.400 taxpayer bill yeah right no of course this wasn't the bloody manifesto no they were scrapping jury
00:51:09.700 trials yes now there was denaturalizing englishmen right none of these things were in in the
00:51:15.460 manifesto we're just going to do it yeah representation of the taxpayer bill the right
00:51:21.020 to vote is contingent on five years of contiguous tax contributions that are greater than benefits
00:51:27.460 deductions and this is how could it be more fair what did they always say about um henry the eighth
00:51:33.960 when he was a young man um he was an absolute stallion yes but i think the phrase they used
00:51:39.240 was if the lion understood his own strength yes which he he came to he started to realize damn i
00:51:45.520 can just do things oh yeah and this is why they work so hard to make sure that everybody who gets
00:51:52.000 elected is a containment vessel because if they get one government just one government that isn't
00:52:00.700 containment it's over yeah it's over they're never the entire post-war liberal project will be gone
00:52:08.000 yeah and that's our mission just for anyone wondering we've got to do this and things okay
00:52:13.540 so you've got extending the right to 16 and 17 year olds i mean like like the left will make
00:52:19.720 arguments like well you know uh a 30 year old man going out with a 22 year old woman is exploitative
00:52:25.480 because her brain isn't fully formed until she's 25 but i definitely want her voting at 16 yes it's
00:52:31.860 like no that's obviously the government is trying to take advantage of morons right well what about
00:52:36.440 foreigners voting in wales in january 2020 do they even need to be in wales or can they just
00:52:42.900 do this straight from lagos that's a great question in january 2020 the senate passed
00:52:48.100 a new law that means if you're 16 and over and a resident in wales okay then you can vote in the
00:52:53.120 elections and this in 2021 was extended by law to local government elections so it's not even just
00:52:58.880 the devolved parliament of wales now it's all local government if you were a foreigner living
00:53:04.280 in wales you get to vote in their elections for some reason sorry like there is there is
00:53:11.100 a failure to in in the electoral i mean you can only you can only assume that they're doing this
00:53:17.800 because they think this will keep us in power forever right but in the average british voters
00:53:22.280 mind there is a failure to understand that your vote is power your vote is you as literally well
00:53:29.340 that's why they want to dilute it as much as possible exactly as radcheck points out in
00:53:33.320 starship troopers that is you exercising force over the state the power of selection still does
00:53:38.440 reside in our hands and that's why as you say they're trying to dilute it as much as possible 1.00
00:53:41.740 well if we can just weaken the british public by increasing the number of foreigners and the number 1.00
00:53:46.300 of morons the number of people who are just literally people who gain from the state and 1.00
00:53:49.920 not give then we can rule this land forever even if it just declines and degrades i mean a way of
00:53:57.060 looking at it is that democracy is just a good proxy for civil war biggest side still wins
00:54:02.940 yeah except we don't have to do all the argy-bargy in the shooting yeah you know we just decide okay
00:54:07.560 biggest side wins the problem there you go the problem in democracy being a proxy for civil war
00:54:12.100 is it assumes two armed combatants yes which basically means men who are capable yeah we go
00:54:19.460 back to our this is not proxy for civil war because 60 plus year olds are not going to pick
00:54:25.140 up rifles and fight with the 20 to 25 year olds or whatever right that and the half of this electorate 0.74
00:54:31.500 is women who are not fighting right and nor are the immigrants with incredibly low grip strength
00:54:37.000 going to be much of a but not only those the ones with incredibly low grip strength the the literal 0.97
00:54:42.640 foreigners uh who have got absolutely um where is it they were who've got absolutely no investment 0.98
00:54:48.680 in the country they're not going to pick up a rifle for the country either although the moment 1.00
00:54:52.200 this this country has its comeuppance on the economic side and the welfare that's going to
00:54:56.740 they're just they're gone exactly they're not going to fight for it you see the viral videos 1.00
00:55:00.420 all the time yeah of just some you know ethnic minority youth in london or wherever it's like 0.97
00:55:04.140 would you fight the culture this is my country and it's like yeah they say it themselves this
00:55:08.700 is not my country yeah their own words and so as a representation for civil war but done peacefully
00:55:16.280 actually democracy is not operating very well no because it's diluted exactly and yeah exactly
00:55:22.320 it's been extended to cohorts who would not be involved in the struggle right and so okay well
00:55:27.980 actually a modern proxy for that is are you paying your taxes that is the modern proxy for it
00:55:34.140 and therefore those people who don't pay their taxes why are we hearing their opinion on these
00:55:38.600 things actually they're not involved they're not involved in the struggle they're not upholding
00:55:43.360 the state why should they have any say in it and you know i mean don't get me wrong i as a voter
00:55:48.760 because i don't get any bloody benefits i'm happy to hear their opinions but when i go to cast my
00:55:54.180 vote my vote should be powerful because i pay a god awful amount of tax so my judge should be
00:55:59.520 bloody powerful you know proportionally uh anyway if we can have tax bans why can't we have vote
00:56:05.560 bans the more tax you pay the more votes you get i don't know there's absolutely no reason why not
00:56:10.240 and if all of these things are just up for yeah we're just going to pass another law we're just 0.98
00:56:13.760 going to change it we're just going to check because i mean like 18 being voting age foreigners
00:56:17.900 not voting these are long settled assumptions of democracy we assume that means that this
00:56:23.420 democracy belongs to the working people of the country and okay maybe we will extend it to 16
00:56:28.620 year olds because maybe some of them work most of them obviously not earning uh more than they
00:56:32.560 paying more in tax than they take benefits but like who cares right like they're at least going 1.00
00:56:36.660 to grow into it because they're our children but to be like yeah no we're just allowing foreigners 0.97
00:56:40.600 to vote so right what you're saying is this is not our country this is not our democracy this is not 0.99
00:56:44.860 our state this is just for anyone who just happens to rock up i mean what they want is just rubber
00:56:49.900 stamping the existing power structure exactly and it's a precisely that and so no we are at liberty
00:56:57.040 to change all of this because they've changed all of this and remember they're proud of their mass
00:57:02.580 deportations right they'll just come out and say yeah no no we've we've deported 60 000 people
00:57:06.860 earlier now they didn't they deported about 8 000 people and 52 000 people just voluntarily left
00:57:12.200 right so they just asked them to leave and they're like yeah okay fine but they i'm glad you clarify
00:57:15.980 because otherwise they would assume
00:57:17.060 that the 8,000 just came back again on another boat
00:57:20.520 and they just shipped them back
00:57:21.540 and he just went back and forth.
00:57:22.240 Well, do you not remember the one in, one out
00:57:23.560 where it was the same guy going around to France?
00:57:28.240 That happened like two or three times.
00:57:30.660 But the point is,
00:57:32.020 they're proud of their mass deportations.
00:57:33.880 No, no, no, we've got 60,000 people out.
00:57:35.920 It's like, great.
00:57:36.720 So we all agree that Nigel Farage is wrong.
00:57:39.060 Mass deportations are possible
00:57:40.640 in this political environment.
00:57:42.320 We have all of the executive tools
00:57:44.560 in the government to do all of these things the british state has long established that it is a
00:57:48.220 good thing to do this absolutely we can denaturalize anyone we like doesn't matter if they were born
00:57:53.760 here doesn't matter if they are ethnically english and we don't have to tell them why
00:57:58.060 and we can just change who can vote in the next election so we're not worried about the greens
00:58:03.140 like getting all the 20 year olds we don't need to worry about that right well and also i don't
00:58:07.120 know if you're going to cover this but we can we can censor and arrest anyone who disagrees with
00:58:10.180 us as well so we can yeah if i mean not we probably wouldn't even bother doing that but
00:58:14.440 the point is they have built us an incredibly coercive toolkit the moment that we get hold of
00:58:20.800 this we can actually solve the problems oh yeah yeah in a year so anyway uh basically you can
00:58:29.840 just do things the british government does just do things and if nigel farage is offering any of
00:58:34.680 these sorts of things and i think that he wouldn't be failing in the way that he is and just to just
00:58:41.240 to finish off like three is a long time it's a long time in politics especially now in the age
00:58:48.460 of the internet where like i said at the beginning the tectonic plates are shifting things are
00:58:52.600 changing and people are hardening right i mean i i i meet lots of regular people who are not
00:58:59.440 involved in politics don't know who i am and i hear them talking and they will just talk to me
00:59:03.900 and they were talking to people around them i had these conversations happening in real life
00:59:08.000 in like the co-op or the tescos yeah people like god did you go into town it was awful isn't it
00:59:13.560 awful and and and especially younger people because i mean my whole life i've been hiding
00:59:17.780 my power levels amongst normies because it's just easier and then and sometimes i hear i hear a group
00:59:23.680 of younger people talking i'm like bloody hell there's the power oh yeah oh yeah they they they
00:59:29.220 they are well aware
00:59:30.480 so all I'm saying is
00:59:32.660 when we win
00:59:33.880 it can be done very quickly