The Roseanne Barr Podcast - Are We Racist？ with Matt Walsh

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00:02:06.060 Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.

00:02:08.660 Well, we've got a b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-banger of a show today.

00:02:19.440 You know, I said I only like to talk to creative geniuses and I've got one today and he's a good one.

00:02:25.020 Matt Walsh. Hi, Matt.

00:02:26.740 Hi, great to be here. Thanks for having me.

00:02:29.140 Thanks for coming.

00:02:30.220 Yeah.

00:02:30.340 um as i told you i asked if you were irish yeah you said i look like a leprechaun is what you

00:02:37.060 look like a little leprechaun today in your uh plaid shirt with your work boots it's adorable

00:02:43.460 i will it's probably the first time i've been called adorable but i'll take it i don't that's

00:02:47.560 that's a new one for me i'll take it though i hope it's not offensive but i love the irish my kids

00:02:52.780 well some of my kids are half irish you know well no it's not offensive because the irish are one

00:02:57.600 of those groups that you're allowed to we're not a very sensitive bunch so you know you can have the

00:03:01.860 fighting irish lucky charms all that we don't we don't get too black irish right it's fine it's all

00:03:08.080 good uh the irish are a resilient sort with a uh hopeful view of the world i think for the most

00:03:16.500 part i've always enjoyed the irish yeah i don't know about the hopeful view at least i well i can't

00:03:21.520 you know i don't know if that applies to me quite as much do you have a hopeful view uh i mean

00:03:27.140 ultimately as a as a christian uh you have a hopeful view because we've read the last page

00:03:34.160 of the book so we know we know how it all ends but uh in the interim you know if you were to ask

00:03:39.220 so if you were to ask me do i have a hopeful view for the next you know billion years i would say yes

00:03:44.260 hopeful view for the next five years maybe not quite as much though unfortunately do you think

00:03:49.980 because it's written in a book um so that implies that you're a religious person a believer

00:03:54.980 well so am i but i think that uh with the repentance and a change in the heart things can

00:04:04.600 change also i don't think god put anything completely in stone if people change and repent

00:04:13.440 i think the world could change too do you think so yeah no i i think so um so i mean if i didn't

00:04:20.140 think that things could change for the better then what's the point of anything that we're doing

00:04:23.000 yeah i mean what's the point of having talking about any of this so i think things can change

00:04:27.780 for the better but um but you know i i think that ultimate cultural changes will take it's a long

00:04:35.420 term game it takes generations it took us generations to get to the point we're at right now

00:04:39.380 yeah so i think we have to be realistic and say that to get out of it uh to get to a place where we

00:04:44.600 live in a culture that is at least like basically sane um will probably kind kind sane empathetic

00:04:52.140 uh recognizing the dignity and humanity of all humans one to another right uh i think that'll

00:04:58.300 take generations to to achieve but not if the light goes on real fast like if some it's like if

00:05:04.360 you're in total darkness and somebody just comes in and flips on the light switch you could change in

00:05:09.080 the in the blink of an eye absolutely but as on a collective level that could happen yeah but there

00:05:15.560 have been moments that we've experienced over the last couple of years even the last couple of months

00:05:20.080 that you would hope would be one of those light switch moments for the collectively and it hasn't

00:05:25.000 quite worked out that way well do you see your film as having any part in being uh hopefully a light

00:05:30.820 switch going on for people uh your new film yeah am i racist i i certainly hope so i think it's uh

00:05:37.720 you know it's a movie that's coming out in theaters and one of the reasons we're putting

00:05:42.600 out in theaters is because we want to be able to access like a wide cross-section of of the country

00:05:48.860 not just people who are already bought into the so you know the conservative message um you know what

00:05:54.440 i say let's not use the word conservative anymore let's say we are radical constitutionalists

00:06:00.340 i think constitutional constitutionalist works uh i often just say these days sane yeah common

00:06:07.220 sense insanity kind of works for what we're talking about yeah especially when we're talking about

00:06:12.240 things like uh defending the notion that for example uh men can't have babies yeah i don't even

00:06:21.360 consider that conservative that's just basically saying you don't have to be a political conservative

00:06:25.320 to understand that reality by a biological reality but it's such a war isn't it i i've always wanted to

00:06:30.900 talk to you about this i i uh you always win every argument and that's commendable you you've got a

00:06:38.040 large library of references that you uh though looking adorable i uh you pull out a lot of references

00:06:47.520 that really are great i would like to think i win every i don't know if my wife would agree but i

00:06:51.820 i try anyway try to win them you know it but but also it's kind of uh how hard is it though

00:06:59.560 maybe it's not that hard well it depends on what you're arguing about and that's that's one of the

00:07:04.080 advantages that we have if we're arguing about something for example uh as i just said about the

00:07:08.500 you know the biological nature of you're if you're arguing about basic biology and you're arguing against

00:07:14.080 someone who denies it well you've already kind of won the argument before it starts right um you would

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00:09:19.640 slash rosanne you know so much reminds me of the inquisition the inquisition times when the uh you

00:09:33.200 know it it was a very political time but they didn't want any dissenters and they only wanted

00:09:39.300 one kind of thinking and so you had to be i'm a jew you know and so we had they would put women or

00:09:47.980 whoever they you know whatever for whatever reason and then you had to be go through a uh

00:09:53.300 gauntlet of questions and it reminds me of that because all of those people who are basically science

00:10:02.700 deniers i mean they are science deniers because if you deny biology you're denying science sure yeah

00:10:08.620 so they're up there to be inquisitors as and to try to find out where they can get you

00:10:16.480 and uh you know you can't go off the uh you know it's marxism 101 all of this stuff was

00:10:23.220 done by the kgb this is how they overthrow governments it's how they culturally you know

00:10:29.340 get in and infiltrate china too and china too well yeah and part of that uh arguing nonsense that has

00:10:38.400 well they will never accept fact so they just love the argument just like lefties love blood and war

00:10:46.400 and you know no end to it they just love agitation hate conflict and uh punishment of people who aren't

00:10:56.080 like them which was so much like the inquisition of the self-righteous that would say well what do

00:11:03.060 you mean when you say you believe in god which god is that you know this just to beat people down

00:11:11.140 yeah i think that the goals on the left with a lot of these topics in particular uh gender but really

00:11:18.480 all of them their their tactic is to obfuscate it's not really not actually trying to win the

00:11:25.040 argument they're trying they're not trying to present a point of view and get you to accept it

00:11:28.340 right they're not interested in that it's it's more just try to make the subject seem a lot more

00:11:33.120 complicated than it is so that you give up and become confused um and that's always that

00:11:39.840 so you say if you see we'll see a video of me winning an argument it's really just insisting on like

00:11:46.060 this is what we're talking about no i'm not gonna let you i know you want to bring us off into the

00:11:50.020 weeds we're gonna stay here on the path this is the discussion i'm not gonna follow you on some

00:11:54.660 you know journey into into nonsense uh but that's what they try to do they just try to make everything

00:12:00.060 seem a lot more complicated than it is they do the same thing on race um you know they there's a

00:12:07.560 version of this movie we just made it's it's called am i racist but we could have there's a version of

00:12:11.160 it we could have called it what is racism because the kind of race hustlers part of their game is

00:12:17.140 that they make you know they they accuse everyone at least every white person of being racist but

00:12:21.660 then if you ask them well what does it mean to be racist what do you mean i'm racist i don't hate

00:12:25.800 people of other races and they don't want to answer that question they will they won't give you an

00:12:30.360 actual definition of what they even mean by the word well they usually say the systemat they use the

00:12:35.340 word systematic systemic right systemic i'm sorry they'll say they used to say systematic but now

00:12:41.540 they say systemic and they'll say uh what is the formula they'll use power plus uh prejudice equals

00:12:48.160 racism or something like that um which is just a which is just a way to absolve you know every other

00:12:54.560 race of racism while while laying it all at the feet of white people which is absurd because anyone's

00:12:59.500 capable of being racist obviously and also by the way white people aren't the only one who have power

00:13:04.840 anymore in this society it's been that way for a long time now um but that's what they really think

00:13:09.420 they really think that racism is well they think some hate is justified right it's all about hate

00:13:15.800 they're they accept hate they are hateful and uh they just have different words for it but they are

00:13:22.560 separating people by hate yeah and that's and it always works it just pisses me off so bad power always

00:13:29.860 uses the same device to divide and conquer and it always works yeah and i think that um i think about

00:13:36.400 i think it was a there's a morgan freeman uh the video of morgan freeman on a 60 minutes interview from

00:13:43.020 like 20 25 years ago yeah and he's asked about he's asked about uh black history month and he says he

00:13:49.580 doesn't like it because black history is american history and then he said what do we do about racism

00:13:54.420 and he said stop talking about it and i don't know if he would give the same answer today if he was asked i

00:13:59.220 hoped that he would but i actually think that it is kind of the answer like there's no final answer

00:14:03.820 to racism there will be there will always be racist people or tribalistic species i think the hope of

00:14:09.280 america in electing obama most white people voted for him i think the hope of america was that would be

00:14:17.360 the end to racism in this country and instead had the opposite effect it was like oh good now now we can

00:14:24.360 really uh you know we really have a fulcrum to stand on and it's all a heist isn't it it's all a

00:14:34.240 grift and a heist and what makes me so mad is that they always use the term race when they really mean

00:14:42.440 class they are the people who are at the top of this lefty grift are all very wealthy and raking in the

00:14:53.680 dough from all the misery of the people they're raising money to uh you know in the name of that

00:15:00.820 don't get a dime they just keep squashing them down yeah and uh it's the most racist thing i've

00:15:06.680 ever seen which is why i left the left i ran for president in 2012 as a socialist as a the representative

00:15:14.200 of the of the black caucus of the green party and and the peace and freedom and peace and freedom

00:15:20.800 party and when i saw the racism of the left i had to leave because it's a grift it's all a grift and

00:15:30.540 it never ever gets to the people on the ground yeah i think in that and that's the uh that's the

00:15:36.760 difference you have the people that are pushing this stuff and i don't know how much of it they

00:15:40.160 really believe uh but a lot of the people on the ground that are buying into it they they really do

00:15:45.720 believe it um you know that's something even in the the film you see some of these you know we go

00:15:50.960 to the race to dinner for example or go to a support group for white people sitting around like it's an

00:15:55.580 aa meeting talking about their white grief or whatever um the people leading those groups are the

00:16:03.320 grifters and i think that they know what they're doing and they're doing it very intentionally and

00:16:06.720 very deliberately because it it's money it's power it's influence for them yeah but the people that

00:16:11.740 are sitting around in the group there's a little bit of virtue signaling going on i think but at their

00:16:17.100 core i think they really believe this stuff and they they carry a lot of guilt and shame uh and

00:16:23.180 they're looking for a way to atone for it and they're turning to these grifters as uh as their way of

00:16:29.540 dealing with it uh it's like this misplaced guilt that a lot of these people have well and there is an

00:16:36.600 organization in the whole united states uh that would actually funnel money to help anybody that's

00:16:44.840 in need of help i mean there's just nothing that's all been uh you know dismantled and uh

00:16:53.600 2008 was the biggest transfer of wealth in human history well until covid and then covid lost

00:17:03.040 yeah but i mean when obama got in all the money from the bottom went to the top for the first time

00:17:08.820 in a revolution because it usually goes the other way or they want it to but you know we're all under

00:17:14.600 some heavy duty mind control from kgb and uh mk ultra and it's all through the media so i saw your movie

00:17:24.700 and i thought that he is doing this because he wants to smash mind control you are putting out a

00:17:32.960 prayer that you can do something for people to step out of the tiny box they've been farmed in

00:17:39.320 and do some thinking aren't you yeah that's a good way of putting it um and i i think that

00:17:46.220 most most of what i do because i have a podcast every day that i do and i'm just like looking

00:17:51.360 directly at the camera and giving my opinions about things in a really direct way i think that

00:17:55.660 there's some value in that i certainly hope there is it's what i do every day

00:17:58.040 but um there are a lot of people you just can't reach that way because they're not going to watch

00:18:03.300 somebody like me lecturing for an hour um if they you know if you're just like saying oh here are my

00:18:09.900 opinions here's why i'm right it's uh i think there's a large portion of the audience that just

00:18:14.560 isn't going to listen you have no chance of reaching them because they're not going to listen

00:18:17.320 well that's why you are doing the right thing by making a funny movie right exactly so i think that's

00:18:23.560 really the way to reach people is doing something funny that you know just happens to be exposing a

00:18:30.120 grift and that's something that the left has typically been very good at now in recent years

00:18:35.700 they haven't been so good at it because they put the you know it's interesting in the entertainment

00:18:39.580 world anyway the left is now making kind of the mistake that uh you know christian films have made

00:18:44.340 for a long time where they're putting the message before the story so it's nothing but one long

00:18:49.140 homily and people just aren't that interested um excellent point yeah that's a great point but so

00:18:54.760 but i think it creates an opportunity for someone to come in and make entertainment that's actually

00:19:01.540 entertaining but also has the message and that's one thing that you know uh our director on on this

00:19:06.880 film and what is a woman justin folk is a great director and um i'm lucky that i have someone like

00:19:11.820 him because he's always for both of the films he's the one who's always reminding me that this this is a

00:19:17.380 movie it's not a podcast i know i always want to turn to the camera and start giving my opinion but

00:19:23.100 that's not what this is about we actually are telling a story and the story really matters we

00:19:27.240 have to put that first um were these people real that are in this movie they're all real yeah everyone's

00:19:33.360 real no actors except for me but i'm not even an actor so yeah those are real yeah they're 100% real

00:19:39.480 these are all real things i mean you can look these people up and and you know if you want to go to

00:19:44.140 your own white grief support group you can go and uh or if you want to go to a race to dinner i think

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00:21:45.600 white there was all white women except that's the only people allowed right well do they have a quota

00:21:50.900 there for their race consciousness raising race yeah well actually it's for white women it's led by

00:21:56.260 cyber rail and regina jackson are the two the indian woman and the black woman leading it okay uh but

00:22:01.240 only white women are allowed to attend i get it because they're the ones that has to learn something i get

00:22:05.360 and they do have to they have to be women that's one of the reasons why i ended up having to show up

00:22:09.200 as a k as a server because actually i wanted to attend the dinner and sit at the table and be one

00:22:14.960 of the they wouldn't let you and they wouldn't we called them up and they said that uh no white men

00:22:18.880 yeah well they said you have to be a woman which is interesting because it's like what is a woman

00:22:22.720 right and you should just wear a dress and i think we even asked or our producers did uh well what is

00:22:29.120 what is it what about trans woman you know because we thought maybe that was one way around this

00:22:32.620 yeah and they said that the way of saying they they didn't want to say no it has to be a real

00:22:36.360 woman you know that's what they meant they couldn't say it so i think they said the way of putting it

00:22:39.820 was if i remember correctly it was like no beards yeah basically they said well you someone who's been

00:22:45.740 socialized as a woman oh that's a good way of putting it right wow so let's unpack that that's so

00:22:52.260 that's every drag queen i get well have they been socialized it doesn't mean anything but you could

00:22:57.640 have said you were socialized as a woman yeah i suppose we thought it'd be funny because the thing is if i come in

00:23:02.220 and say well i'm a trans woman i would not have like dressed in drag i would have just walked in

00:23:04.960 exactly like this yeah and sat down to say i'm a woman that would have been amazing say you could

00:23:08.940 have said i'm a trans woman lesbian and then they go oh okay that makes sense i want to dress up like

00:23:14.580 a man and put a beard on in dragon and then go read the bible to kids at school that's i mean that's

00:23:21.680 yeah that's technically drag i guess so what do you think of that idea they probably won't let you do

00:23:26.540 it well i think read the bible without the who needs the beard well they wouldn't let me unless i was

00:23:31.320 dressed like a man yeah that's true see what i'm saying trying to be subversive all the time

00:23:36.840 yeah but that's part of their the thing is that they say that that that being a man or woman there's

00:23:41.760 no requirement you don't have to look a certain way so i should be able to identify as a woman and

00:23:46.720 not change a single thing about myself and be accepted as such but of course i wouldn't be

00:23:51.020 isn't it ironic that the same time that they passed all those laws about uh what is what is a woman

00:23:57.000 and of course it's what is it somebody with a bonus hole is what it says on the insurance policies

00:24:03.080 uh that's what a woman is a birthing person with a bonus hole a chest feeder uh-huh that's what they

00:24:08.840 say i think that's a new one i know no i know everything about it because i i have the bonus hole

00:24:15.040 is the the vagina yeah well i figured that yeah okay i'm just wasn't sure i'm here to help i figured

00:24:20.340 see that that's self-descripted that tells you everything you need to know there but it's it's

00:24:25.840 but that's like but at the same time they passed all those laws pro-trans women lost protection under

00:24:33.740 the law yeah as a as a as a protected class so yeah that's what title nine was supposed to be all

00:24:41.040 about protecting women and protecting women's sports and so on and now it's being used the

00:24:46.300 administration is trying to use it to do exactly the opposite of what it was intended to do but

00:24:50.160 the supreme court froze him on that did you know that yeah yeah i i it's it's they are crazy

00:24:56.660 they're just they're just trying to burn everything down i think do you uh when you say that you mean

00:25:02.300 like the left the democrats well the left is the democrats now yeah there's there they are one and

00:25:09.240 the same yeah i totally agree and i think that you're right that uh dismantle they use the word

00:25:14.820 dismantle they use it as a positive they talk about it all the time dismantle the patriarchy dismantle

00:25:19.160 whiteness dismantle uh whatever so and that is very much what they want to do and the thing is

00:25:24.040 we often on the right will say things like well the left they want to redefine they want to redefine

00:25:29.580 woman they want to redefine all these terms they want to redefine marriage uh but really they're not

00:25:33.340 looking to redefine anything what they want to do is remove the definition of these words but replace

00:25:37.500 it with nothing uh so it's there is no new definition of woman woman just doesn't mean anything

00:25:42.280 it's nothing so they want to reduce everything into nothingness so well woman soon they take

00:25:48.280 incremental steps and soon woman will be persona non-grat a second-class citizen and they've

00:25:54.260 wanted that you know i think all of this is a return to feudalism and uh you know that's what

00:26:00.320 they want yeah i think you're right and they've planned it for a really long time but

00:26:07.580 um i'm excited for you because i used to be a friend with michael moore for a long time i

00:26:13.480 was in a couple of his movies and i did introduce him to my mother at a hollywood uh oscars party

00:26:21.420 and she told me the two people she was most impressed with meeting paris hilton and michael moore

00:26:28.800 that's a that's a interesting it was yeah ray of that's what she really thought yeah but uh

00:26:35.820 i think you're on the michael moore track and uh you know i was happy to see it and you're kind of

00:26:43.100 on a sasha baron cone thing too there's a little of that going on yeah well i'd say i mean both those

00:26:48.220 guys are obviously far left but i mean i take that i appreciate that i take as an enormous compliment i

00:26:52.340 mean michael moore is uh interesting because he was he's he was a great filmmaker yeah i didn't agree

00:26:58.780 with right the point in his documentaries he hasn't made a film in a while i don't know what

00:27:02.220 i don't know why but he went on a tear of you know three four documentaries in a row that yeah

00:27:07.440 just artistically are some of the the greatest documentaries ever made it's funny because his

00:27:12.080 first one roger and me was so right now what we would call conservative where he was going after

00:27:18.400 a corporation for sending all our jobs away you know he would be on he would be a trumper now

00:27:23.860 with that film but then he got all pro-corporate yeah and i and they all did they just got all pro-corporate

00:27:32.540 and the corporate message uber allus they don't like anybody who isn't corporate and they don't like

00:27:40.960 any firm or idea or film that isn't corporate you've got to have a corporation and ironically

00:27:47.820 corporations are the least democratic thing in the whole damn world yeah you get fired for no reason

00:27:54.540 yeah well that's right you're right because the left is used to be you can think back to occupy

00:28:01.140 wall street they were right even even that recently and that was when 20 i don't know i can't remember

00:28:06.460 that was in the 19s wasn't it no i went it was like 2004 obama yeah that the i was around the

00:28:13.660 crash so it would have been like oh 608 somewhere yeah so it wasn't all that long ago but that was

00:28:17.720 still it was the the left was considered the anti-corporate uh you were there mom yeah i was

00:28:22.500 there yeah but now but now the all the corporations are far left they own all the corporations and this is

00:28:28.760 like the identity crisis they're having on the left right now is that you know they were the rebels for

00:28:33.280 a long time and then but then what happens when the rebel takes over now you're not the rebel anymore

00:28:37.860 now you're in charge now you are the establishment and uh and i think that they're having a lot of

00:28:43.320 like trouble with that yeah what do we do as now that we own everything um we don't want to give up

00:28:49.500 power we fuck the people we don't care what they want what's going to go our way they don't they also

00:28:55.220 don't really know what to do with the power it's like uh it's like in the dark night when joker says

00:29:00.360 you know i'm like a dog chasing a car i wouldn't know what to do if i caught it and uh they're just

00:29:06.640 making more corporate deals that's all they do they're not watching the border or schools or

00:29:11.780 anything like that but they're over there making deals yeah well isn't dei a corporate maneuver and

00:29:18.520 when you think about it was for some reason they were involved in this whole thing which your film

00:29:22.240 touches on that that is corporations that are behind that black rock's big behind that it's

00:29:27.020 it's not a punk movement dei yeah well right exactly and one's weird when when when you're

00:29:33.740 where did that come from beside like i know jesse jackson used to go around and you know force people

00:29:39.980 force companies to kowtow in their uh you know employee records which i thought well you got to

00:29:46.360 get some people hired especially in hollywood so i was glad he did it but then he took all nobody got

00:29:52.380 money but him yeah funny how that works uh yeah this is like the far left racial ideology that's

00:29:58.740 just been repackaged as this dei thing but the moment that you find yourself saying the same things

00:30:05.240 that an hr representative at some major pharmaceutical company would say yeah yeah that's that's it means

00:30:12.080 that you're you have you you're on the winning side culturally but it also means that it's not cool

00:30:16.200 it's not rebellious anymore um it's not even hip right it's not it's not it's bootlick and ass kiss

00:30:24.080 and bullshit you're a shill and that should give us on on the right that gives you an opportunity uh

00:30:29.580 and i think we haven't been very good at this point at seizing the opportunity but we really are like

00:30:34.180 we're the counter insurgency we're the we're punk rock right we're total punk rock and it's so great

00:30:40.000 because i i like to see your create creativity and other people young younger people than i of course

00:30:45.840 as is everyone on earth almost but uh you know the creativity coming out of you know being squashed

00:30:51.620 down is what makes art and it's great to see it come from a center place rather than you know

00:30:57.880 the uh marginalized because it's going to be a better more cohesive art and film and stuff and i'm

00:31:05.180 seeing it even fashion it it's really wonderful it's like a return to main street and common values

00:31:13.120 and and everybody of every race and creed creed and culture going you know what we have 99 of stuff

00:31:21.340 in common that we agree on duh yeah let's find a big tent yeah that's what in in the film we uh there's

00:31:32.200 a portion where we go well i go to a biker bar uh down in the south it's a there's confederate flags

00:31:39.760 hanging on the wall and all that and then right from there we go to the black community the poor

00:31:44.740 you know very impoverished part of new orleans and uh because we didn't know how these conversations

00:31:51.460 were going to go but we kind of suspected that we would hear really similar things from both of these

00:31:55.780 groups even though we're told by the media that these groups would hate each other

00:31:58.480 uh and but no what we found is that we heard exactly the same thing and they were all you

00:32:03.160 know almost the exact same words hey we all bleed the same yeah uh i don't care if you're white or

00:32:07.780 black it doesn't you know it doesn't really matter to me uh we heard that from both both groups um

00:32:13.020 and i think that's because you was talking to the working class you weren't talking to the operatives

00:32:17.260 that graduated brainwashed from colleges you know the privileged and we're talking to people who

00:32:23.440 are kind of most of them don't have corporate jobs so they don't have the dei brainwashing

00:32:27.760 they're not in public school right now obviously uh they're not paying attention to hollywood

00:32:33.140 they're not watching a lot of media so they really are outside of that whole world um to the extent

00:32:38.240 that anybody can be anyway and so they're not and they're not filled with hate right notice that

00:32:42.960 exactly and so they kind of go to their default position which is you know especially in modern

00:32:48.620 america we all most of us we're all living around people of other races it's normal right and

00:32:53.580 the default position is like it's not a big deal i mean i notice it's not that race doesn't exist i

00:32:57.400 notice if someone's of a different race uh but it doesn't matter um it matters to me because i'm

00:33:03.440 like oh i bet they cook such and such good i like going to different people races house because

00:33:10.380 you know they all have such delicious food that's why i don't figure why the world can't get that

00:33:15.040 through its big head that is great food in every culture well why aren't we just enjoying our food

00:33:20.920 and our music yeah that is one of the times when i really do notice races when i'm going to

00:33:25.080 an ethnic restaurant and i want to make sure that it's like the people working there and especially

00:33:30.140 the kitchen should be of that ethnicity i do feel that way i agree all right mom do you remember

00:33:35.560 the old zippix company we used to do with the toothpicks yeah and they helped me quit smoking last

00:33:40.460 time then i ran out of the out of the uh zippix and i started smoking so now i'm gonna use them to

00:33:46.080 start to stop doing it again well that's what i'm getting at it's all their fault

00:33:50.740 it well yeah they stopped sending us stuff because they stopped buying ads we ran out and

00:33:54.740 now she's smoking again so it's all your fault y'all we're still gonna do the ad for you but

00:33:58.500 we're pissed zippix um they're awesome for those of you who don't know they're toothpicks that are

00:34:03.920 basically like marinated i don't know the scientific term but they have some that are nicotine infused

00:34:08.180 they have other ones for energy like b12 and caffeine that yeah those are good yeah yeah it's just

00:34:12.800 like you just you you know you pick your teeth after you eat but you get a little energy boost

00:34:16.100 and that that last one i did was better than a cup of coffee that's no joke but the nicotine

00:34:20.880 ones are great because you can have them in your mouth that's right you suck on 20 or 30 out of them

00:34:26.600 at a time you feel great don't do that because these are high no they probably kill you if you

00:34:31.320 did yeah no they're they're infused in nicotine they have they'll tell you the milligram on it but

00:34:36.020 some of them you'll get a little bit of a buzz but what's really cool about these is yes it did help

00:34:40.260 my mother quit smoking they're great for that but even if you don't want to quit smoking let's say

00:34:44.180 you're on a long flight or you're in a movie theater or something and you want that rush and

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00:34:57.240 really do help and work and if it gets you to quit smoking again then yeah but then dr foucher one of

00:35:04.020 them guys circus clowns they says if you're smoking that nicotine kills the spike protein so i'm now i'm

00:35:11.200 afraid to quit but anyways uh i'm gonna give it a try well or just use these like we just flew

00:35:17.820 we're here in florida now that's why this is that stiff and we're in mel k's studio it was a long

00:35:22.080 flight i know you were fiending for a cigarette it was nice i just drank three wines and went to sleep

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00:35:51.840 i've never been to any restaurant that didn't have indians working that was good like it has to be

00:35:56.800 chinese too i gotta be honest i have to say in the indian restaurant it was it was a mom and dad

00:36:02.740 kind of place and it was indian people working in there i think but you know you never know who's

00:36:08.940 who anymore yeah everyone's all intermarried and everybody's all everything now yeah i guess i mean

00:36:13.920 it's not like i'm conducting a poll when i go in there and i'm not walking into the kitchen what's

00:36:18.500 your favorite food favorite food uh well i love indians like for takeout i'm kind of i'm gonna do the

00:36:26.320 the indian food i uh but you know at at my house i actually do you know not all the cooking but i

00:36:32.840 do a fair amount of the cooking in my house because i enjoy i do enjoy cooking and uh chili is sort of

00:36:37.280 my i love chili yeah do you make it with beef chunks yeah well no you'll probably tell me that

00:36:43.760 my chili isn't real chili if you're are you a chili purist no i like any kind of beans in it is that

00:36:48.900 what you're getting at yeah i do have beans in it it's not chili well no it is too chili i like

00:36:53.400 beans in chili why why can't chili have beans in it it's just not chili oh he's just a stock up

00:36:59.520 he's all stock up that ain't right yeah i do white bean chili do you ever made that sure yeah that's

00:37:08.660 good i do all different kinds of beans you can throw some black beans in there pinto i mean you

00:37:12.520 could do all kinds of different things you don't put meat in your chili oh no definitely meat okay

00:37:16.500 but i don't do just one so what i like to do is different because i'll put some beef in there i'll

00:37:20.320 usually put some bison uh and i like to throw a little bit of pork in there i love bison and i

00:37:25.200 might even throw in some uh ground turkey not much but uh it lightens up yeah and i'm not a big ground

00:37:30.800 turkey guy but anyway let's go back to the subject okay i'm sorry for an hour if you want but i i'm so

00:37:37.660 excited because your movie that's being released when is it jake the ninth well he'll tell you the

00:37:43.060 ninth is the premiere but the 16th i think is a theatrical release yeah night well premieres in

00:37:47.700 nashville on the ninth it comes out on the 13th it's a big deal it's got a huge theatrical release

00:37:53.000 which is a very big deal for um you know culture war uh in the culture war yeah yeah we uh we uh are

00:38:01.300 blessed that it's doing really well in pre-sales so we've expanded i don't know how many theaters

00:38:05.900 we're in right now but it's it's it's double what it was when we started dang that's good and uh of

00:38:10.160 course we were uh you know when we decided to release this theatrically the question was how would the

00:38:16.260 theaters respond to it will they even take it um because of the sub we thought the subject matter

00:38:21.260 would be the challenge and it turns out that you know the theaters took it the challenge was more

00:38:25.580 just that it's a documentary and what we heard from the theaters is like we'll take it but theater

00:38:31.340 documentaries don't attract big audiences so we're only going to give you a few theaters

00:38:34.540 we'll see how it does in pre-sales kind of like a prove it deal right and uh it's proven itself so

00:38:39.600 far in pre-sales so it's expanded and um we've doubled the theaters yeah well that's because it's

00:38:44.960 funny i think because you know you get a lot of good laughs in it so it's a good date night thing

00:38:50.280 or a guy's night out or a girl's night i think so it's it's kind of a weird uh it the genre wise

00:38:58.520 it's we've we actually debated this quite a bit before we sent it out it's like what what genre is

00:39:04.240 it even in because it you know it is a documentary it's all real but it's not what you think of when

00:39:09.860 you think of documentary i don't give too much away but there's some there's like a scene at the end

00:39:13.960 that's obviously don't give away the end i'm not i'm just saying i love that you actually did you

00:39:18.900 actually go to dei training yeah do you have your certification i don't have it on me uh i should

00:39:24.660 carry it around with me but i did i did get the the certificate so you did go to the training yeah

00:39:30.140 well go to it i mean i went online and i spent 30 minutes taking a course and what does it tell you

00:39:36.180 like let's break it down it's diversity equity and inclusion yeah but it's really segregation

00:39:43.940 um exclusion exclusion and what's the i yeah it's all it's all double talk it's like we don't want to

00:39:53.940 hire we we hate white men yeah but above it all i know this above all they hate jews

00:40:03.640 they hate jews and the whole reason they invented that bullshit was so they could say jews are white

00:40:10.640 and you know that's all they care about jews are white we're gonna march in a white neighborhood

00:40:16.960 um beverly hills you know that's what they did last time and a lot of us marshaled forces because

00:40:23.200 we knew what they were doing it's pure nazi fucking slash marxist propaganda it you know they just

00:40:31.260 they they believe that everything the jews or the whites got was from stealing from them um and that

00:40:40.600 it's their rightful stuff yeah well of course well and that's uh of course jews are white uh eight you

00:40:49.140 know even like asians can be white in their in in this way of thinking blacks are are you know the

00:40:55.260 black face of white supremacy like they're white hispanic is now i think uh because what they've done

00:41:02.000 and taken this they've taken they've taken white and they've expanded to the concept of whiteness

00:41:06.500 uh-huh and whiteness is just anything they that they being the race hustlers anything they associate

00:41:14.320 with being white is now part of whiteness and so you could not they're so wrong because a lot of

00:41:19.880 white people have a lot of freckles so that means they're melanated so they're totally racist with

00:41:25.240 their definition of right well and also by the way uh you know they say white and then people of color

00:41:30.760 as if these two different groups white we have color too as white people i mean we're like what

00:41:35.660 would it mean to not have color i guess to be translucent or something uh like some sort of

00:41:39.580 deep sea species you know um so it does the words don't make any don't make any sense but really they

00:41:45.940 do when you look at it like this because i've given this a lot of thought being a a uh refugee from the

00:41:53.440 left um race is racism it really is the only people that race matter to is slave traders

00:42:04.160 it don't matter it's class that matters and when you use race as the cudgel to keep a certain

00:42:12.540 amount of people on a certain continent poor because you're robbing them i mean that's class that's

00:42:19.140 not specifically race race is a symptom of a worldwide class war of the people who own everything

00:42:28.840 wanting the rest of us not only to have nothing but to be pray for their nazi experiments and to

00:42:37.740 disappear yeah or be killed in their wars for more money it's a devil world that's i think class is the

00:42:47.720 is is a big part of this that they kind of they don't they don't talk about as much because they

00:42:52.380 they fold it all into this into the racial thing and so in their in their because they're all

00:42:56.660 privileged right but if you're but in their world if you're white you're automatically part of the

00:43:02.420 upper class in this really weird convoluted way which of course is absurd they've never been to

00:43:05.980 appalachia and seen the people there exactly or even the biker bar we went to in the film i mean

00:43:10.200 walmart you ever been to walmart yeah walmart yeah anyway it's plenty california right it's it's

00:43:16.400 really just disgusting and it is uh you know what power does when they just want to steal all

00:43:24.480 everybody's money yeah that's actually one of the things we wanted to do in the film that we never

00:43:28.320 got a chance to do but uh i i wanted to go to appalachia to go to like the poorest area of

00:43:35.140 appalachia to talk to explore this idea of white privilege um and uh talk to someone who lives in

00:43:42.360 like a trailer in appalachia about their privilege to find out how privileged they really are

00:43:46.820 and we weren't able to do it we just ran out of time but i mean it's it's it's absurd and it's

00:43:52.080 it's like insulting to it is insulting tell someone who's obviously suffered greatly and is living a

00:43:56.840 hard life the homeless are primarily white the homeless yeah yeah there's no and veterans yeah

00:44:02.240 everything's upside down backwards you know i i sometimes think being a comic that if we all had a

00:44:09.260 big enough laugh we could shake it all loose and start over again because it's got to be rebuilt on

00:44:15.020 some common sense and some uh you know not it not not for the not for the benefit of a few at the

00:44:26.520 expense of the many that just ain't right in any way and it's funny that it's the republican party

00:44:34.740 that holds that value and i i i was reading about frederick douglas and uh you know one of the

00:44:42.320 founders of you know all this upside down history that we get in bs media here but that they that they

00:44:49.800 would think that they are progressive that they are the forward thinkers when they basically

00:44:57.500 back feudalism debt slavery and the worst stuff that we've already thought we conquered tribalism and

00:45:08.900 division and war and hate yeah and i think you mentioned being a comic i mean well you know this

00:45:15.300 as a comedy legend but uh comedy is is one of the ways to break through a lot of this and there hasn't

00:45:22.640 been you know it's like we've been in this this drought period with with comedy at least in the

00:45:29.040 mainstream but it hasn't even there's hardly been any for the last 10 15 years it feels like

00:45:34.440 um because in the movies for sure right the movies yeah maybe maybe less so on tv but certainly in the

00:45:42.080 movies which is interesting it's almost like you know there was a there was a run of if you go back

00:45:48.620 to the 90s there was different runs of different people that were very prolific in comedy and then

00:45:52.780 it kind of stopped sometime around 2012 or 2013 yeah it did when obama signed the ndaa i said he's

00:46:00.420 just killed comedy you won't be able to say nothing and without like having the back of your mind you

00:46:05.500 could be arrested for it and hence today um you know the left in the uk is trying to come over here

00:46:13.520 and arrest people for stuff that's on x in the uk yeah i mean they're just trying to shut all dissent

00:46:23.160 and uh everything but their communist party line down they're trying to take it all away and so

00:46:30.540 long may it wave and i'm glad you i'm glad you get it and i'm glad you made the movie and i'm glad

00:46:37.220 you kind of made a fool of yourself in there you were brave and you you were game

00:46:42.640 to get a laugh it was funny yeah yeah i mean we we i i think i've made myself the butt of the joke

00:46:49.320 in many of those in many of those scenes kind of intentionally uh but also hopefully exposing you

00:46:55.600 know what we're trying to expose i think those people should be ashamed that they are milking

00:47:00.000 people who uh you know probably have bipolar disorder and a hundred other things feeling guilty for

00:47:06.360 you know slavery when they never had no slaves i mean and they were never slaves neither i mean

00:47:13.840 that's just bilking people that's like selling insurance yeah and the slavery thing uh that always

00:47:19.780 you know this guilt trip they try to do over slavery i find really uh ridiculous for a lot of reasons i

00:47:26.740 mean the obvious reason is that no one owns like none of us have ever owned slaves we never knew anyone

00:47:31.740 who owned slaves um but also because slavery is a is a sin is a worldwide global sin that uh that for

00:47:40.260 thousands of years everybody across the entire globe in every culture of every race owned slaves

00:47:46.740 and if they didn't own slaves they were okay with the fact that slaves that slavery existed as an

00:47:50.920 institution it was just it was a global institution well the same people that say keep on talking about

00:47:56.520 slavery a hundred years ago in america are also part of the party which now enables more slaves than have

00:48:09.880 ever existed in the world child slaves sex slaves labor slaves wage slaves um and they use that as a

00:48:20.980 code you'll so we won't look at that other stuff but america has more child slaves now coming across

00:48:28.320 the border and you know every family's going to get one and they aren't even tracking them or nothing

00:48:34.040 uh they're going to have a little kid in their house who they say this is our you know special cousin or

00:48:41.200 whoever that's going to be doing all the unpaid labor and watching the kids that's how it works and

00:48:46.940 they're all down for it yeah they're letting it happen a lot of people don't realize that uh slavery

00:48:52.840 like slavery was officially actually legal uh as recently as the 1980s in africa africa was the last

00:49:01.340 place to actually have the institution of slavery legal but libya sells black people as slaves now

00:49:07.660 libya sells black people for two hundred dollars uh you can buy a black slave and in gaza they do too

00:49:16.260 palestinians own black people and um we don't get to hear any of that but here we sit um up to about

00:49:26.960 here with bs from the democrat party and um any blow against that empire is a blow for freedom and liberty

00:49:34.200 and and uh for god i think so i'm glad you're doing it i'm glad you're funny i'm glad god gave you a gift

00:49:42.120 of humor which takes a real lot of thinking to make something funny because you got to take two

00:49:48.280 different disparate ideas and bring them together in a big smash and you did it so you know i i think

00:49:56.220 you did good i think you made a good film i hope you'll make more are you thinking of making more

00:50:01.000 uh absolutely you know that's the one thing i mentioned uh being doing a podcast because the

00:50:06.520 podcast i do is uh i think what you do it is great because it's like you get to have interesting

00:50:12.500 conversations right um and there's a lot that could come out of a conversation but the podcast

00:50:17.780 that i do is like political commentary so just me talking to the camera and well you do a lot of

00:50:22.740 thinking to come up with that sure yeah it's it's it's right exactly and i think that there's some

00:50:26.540 value in it but um the thing about that is it's like it's very tied to the news cycle and so i put

00:50:32.960 hours and hours and hours of work into doing this podcast and i do the show and then by tomorrow

00:50:38.240 nobody cares anymore because the news cycle's moved on and then you make a movie and you see that okay

00:50:43.240 it's possible to create something that uh people care about for more than five minutes uh you know

00:50:49.140 what is woman came out two years ago people still come up to me about it all the time and talk about

00:50:53.500 what the movie meant to them so just that alone to see that it's possible to create to be in the the

00:50:58.740 daily content grind and then to create something that has some staying power is uh really refreshing

00:51:04.360 and it's it's like i want to hold on i want to keep doing that yeah i couldn't go back to

00:51:07.940 just the daily grind of content that's so temporal and just forgotten so quickly um i think you i think

00:51:14.840 you say new and different things about uh just racism itself um oh i'm sorry yeah i think you're

00:51:24.940 saying new and needed things about racism itself in the culture um i think it'll open up a lot of

00:51:32.900 dialogue with people but i was going to ask you what do you think i mean you probably don't even

00:51:37.480 want to think about this but i do because it always happens to me too but the naysayers you know on the

00:51:43.660 trolls how they're going to come for you do you have you thought about what they're going to say because

00:51:48.520 when i was watching i was like oh they're gonna say this and say that uh yeah i mean i haven't

00:51:54.640 thought much about it i'm sure they'll they'll they'll have a lot to say um and that's fine you

00:52:00.900 know i'm i know you're used to it i'm i'm used to it um and i i don't i don't worry about it i think

00:52:07.700 that if i'd rather have that than the alternative because i know that especially with like the corporate

00:52:12.580 the left-wing media um they prefer to just ignore this yeah and even with what is a woman it was a

00:52:19.740 big success for us but the corporate media ignored it for a long time because it was on on our platform

00:52:24.000 and so they felt like well okay we can just ignore that pretend it doesn't exist um i want to put it

00:52:29.480 i want to put it somewhere and then have the success with it where they can't ignore it and they have to

00:52:34.260 come up with some naysaying whatever criticism and so if that starts you know if there's a bunch of

00:52:39.180 i'm sure we're gonna get terrible reviews uh yeah you know i'm sure that's gonna happen

00:52:43.040 and that's fine because it means that you can't ignore it you had to at least acknowledge that it

00:52:47.640 exists do you think though though consider this do you think that there has been some sort of a

00:52:53.840 cultural shift and that it's in the process of shifting even more because like i told greg gutfield

00:53:00.120 his show being the number one nighttime talk show is evidence of a cultural shift yeah yeah i think

00:53:07.900 there's there's a lot of shifts happening um and in the entertainment space in particular like you

00:53:14.360 mentioned gutfeld um but i'm in on media yeah i i think there's it's a lot of it is because like

00:53:21.020 we were talking about the the left has sort of left the playing field on some of these things

00:53:25.480 they're not making comedy anymore really um they're they don't make entertainment the way that

00:53:31.600 they used to at least they don't make it as effectively as they used to because they're putting

00:53:34.140 the message before the story and so that's part of the shift that you're seeing that it allows

00:53:38.760 other these kind of like insurgent characters i'm one of them yeah you are to come in and say all right

00:53:44.460 i'll i'll do it then um and i i hope that it it continues you know yeah i hope you inspire a lot of

00:53:51.440 other people and i hope that your movie does so well that it inspires theaters to uh you know open

00:53:58.560 their doors to other than a certain narrative because i think people are ready to see something

00:54:05.780 yeah that's well that's that's also been the case for a long time that you know hollywood

00:54:10.280 just for example i mean there's so much money that these hollywood studios could make by making

00:54:18.780 biblical films i know and and every once in a while a biblical film is made and it does

00:54:25.240 it does amazingly well because there's so much hunger for them there's so many great stories

00:54:29.860 in the bible oh my gosh even aside from the spiritual resonance of them and truth of them

00:54:34.240 it's also these are also just great stories um and so i've wanted to do that forever yeah and you

00:54:39.820 could just you open up the first page of the bobby you just go through the whole thing and you

00:54:42.640 and there's there's a thousand billion dollar movies in it um but it it's amazing that hollywood

00:54:49.720 hates us so much that they they'll even sacrifice the money they're like i won't even i don't even

00:54:53.860 want a billion dollars from you people i hate you that much they did that with her that's what

00:54:56.940 they did with me i was the number one show yeah the 28 million viewers and they canceled that for

00:55:02.340 a tweet they didn't understand because they don't understand anything about jewish people

00:55:07.080 uh or what iran the iran deal meant to the jewish people so what do you make of that that they

00:55:15.060 canceled me their number one show that they've only had in like 15 years since i went off the

00:55:20.700 year before they didn't care about the money and they didn't care about their stockholders

00:55:25.220 but i'll tell you i don't know what kind of capitalism that is it isn't really can't be

00:55:33.580 capitalism yeah it's not because they're willing to sacrifice the money yeah but just based on their

00:55:38.660 their pure resentment and hatred well they don't want amazing they don't want to lose the culture war

00:55:43.240 and that's the culture and that's more important to them because it's an ideology they said one

00:55:49.540 person said i'm just afraid she's gonna humanize trump voters yeah well you wouldn't want that no

00:55:58.460 you definitely don't want that or trump you don't want to humanize him then you can't keep trying to

00:56:03.860 lock him up and take shots at him and you know fundraise off him fundraise off him and you

00:56:09.260 you had achieved something that uh you almost never see which is to take a property that existed

00:56:15.960 you know years ago and kind of do whatever you call reboot that actually captures the essence of

00:56:21.640 what the old thing was and updated it for the times which of course no one can do and there's been a

00:56:26.760 there's been a million attempts at that and they almost always are terrible well you know because

00:56:32.100 as as bob eiger said it's never a good idea to give an artist too much power over their product

00:56:38.680 okay so you're doing it for god right we're like the uh blues brothers we're on a mission from god

00:56:45.560 right absolutely yeah and that's uh i mean ultimately if you're a religious person and that

00:56:52.340 and you're truly religious that drives everything that you do yeah um sometimes i get you know i even

00:56:56.680 get criticized on occasion uh even with the with the first movie what is woman uh that from some

00:57:01.920 my christian audience that they said well why you know why didn't you put why didn't you say anything

00:57:09.160 about god where where was the you know why did it and then what is woman we gave the answer to

00:57:13.560 what is woman at the end of the movie spoiler alert adult human female um and there was a certain like

00:57:19.600 it wasn't a loud voice but there's some some voices that said well that was your chance to say

00:57:24.020 something about about your faith and about god uh and and my answer to that was well

00:57:30.220 it's it's there i mean we're speaking the truth about this topic um and uh and so if you're speaking

00:57:38.460 the truth that you're you're that that's that's you know um that spiritual truth is there embedded in it

00:57:46.240 they also hate the bible they hate they really hate christians they hate jews a lot

00:57:52.800 because we're white they hate people who believe in god because their heart yeah they hate

00:57:57.560 the torah and they hate the new testament too they hate the jews they hate muslims that think a little

00:58:04.140 bit different than because there's a lot of sex of muslims but they hate christians and they're going for

00:58:11.600 them like crazy and uh they think every christian is like the uh that baptist that baptist uh bunch that

00:58:22.240 used to stand out there god they think every christian is like that and they also love

00:58:30.060 they love the idea of forcing christians to make cakes against their will and their beliefs and to

00:58:43.400 force christians who are anti-abortion to pay for abortions i mean that is just that's not american

00:58:50.400 that's fascist yeah and then they claim that they're in favor of uh freedom of association

00:58:55.620 association which is really you know the infamous cake baking kind of cases we talk about that like

00:59:01.040 it's a free speech case which it is that too but uh i think even more it's just basic freedom of

00:59:06.380 association if somebody says that they run a business and they say i don't want to be associated

00:59:09.760 with you or i don't i don't want to be associated with this event if it's a gay wedding uh that that's

00:59:15.320 one of your most basic freedoms if you don't have the freedom to decide who you associate with

00:59:19.060 especially professionally uh then in what sense are we free at all um i never understood why the

00:59:26.000 right didn't fight back by going to a gay bakery and saying we want a cake that says blah blah blah

00:59:32.280 and seeing them refuse why doesn't the right ever fight back i think they fight back in in different

00:59:38.020 ways but but um well the boycotts of well i'll tell you why i'll tell you one of the reasons why

00:59:43.440 you didn't have conservatives doing that for the most part is that honestly conservatives are nice

00:59:47.460 people and uh they're they're not really looking for trouble they're not looking for conflict

00:59:52.680 they don't think of a cake as an opportunity to exercise power over another person yeah that's true

00:59:59.800 and so it takes a certain type of person to even think of that kind of thing and you have these

01:00:04.760 all these cake baking cases and you know it none of that that was all engineered it happened for like

01:00:10.900 it was not these were not gay couples that just happened to wander in and then said yeah it's all

01:00:15.760 for a political they targeted it like they knew that okay well this guy is a christian he runs this

01:00:19.500 they were friends that first case it was their friend their actual friend that they put out of

01:00:23.960 business that's a true story i don't know if you guys know that i covered it back in the day is that

01:00:28.600 jack not jack phillips no it was the one in oregon and he wouldn't do they were friends it was a

01:00:32.700 lesbian wedding he didn't want to make a cake and they basically instead of just going to the next

01:00:36.500 bakery they called all the vendors that were supplying to them and said we will no longer support you

01:00:40.760 and did basically a nationwide band put their friends out of business the left the hitler jack

01:00:45.460 boot right on their face yeah no i this was kind of the beginning of that stuff i talked about this

01:00:49.980 10 15 years ago and it was kind of the beginning of what we're seeing beginning of council culture

01:00:55.300 really yeah and that's but that's exactly what i'm talking about that that it's weird hill to die

01:00:58.980 with these like lgbt activist types uh they'll do that kind of thing in my experience these can be

01:01:05.760 very vicious people uh and very like scheming and devious and uh with conservative types they just

01:01:13.220 don't they're you know they're trying to live their lives and they want to go get a cake and

01:01:16.900 they're not like probably if they went in and asked for a cake and they were turned away they just say

01:01:20.520 all right i'll go you know yeah i'll go to the bakery across the street i don't i'm not looking for

01:01:23.860 i don't want this to be what my life is about i just i'll go and i go and i gotta you know go pick up

01:01:27.780 the kids and i gotta get back to my life um and so that's one of the reasons why that's like one of

01:01:34.200 the disadvantages that we have is that we're actually normal people we have families that

01:01:38.280 we care about we have jobs you know we're not out protesting at three o'clock in the afternoon on a

01:01:43.480 tuesday you know but there is the small matter of defending the constitution and the people's

01:01:49.480 constitutional rights right that somebody shouldn't overlook because that that was an attack

01:01:55.860 yeah well that's the thing but that's that's the that's the tension that the the instinct among

01:02:00.680 conservatives is to focus on yourself your family you're not looking for trouble and that's a good

01:02:04.620 instinct that's a way to be a healthy happy person right but that's not a recipe for winning a battle

01:02:11.400 um and when you want to fight a war we're in a culture war you have to be a little bit vicious

01:02:16.140 and uh it takes a certain type of person uh like frankly you need like you need some assholes who are

01:02:22.260 willing to do that kind of thing um and uh you know i think that's kind of the tension or maybe you

01:02:29.720 just need people that are smarter than the idiots you know it it seems like now we're starting to hear

01:02:36.620 things uh trickle out about wins in in the courts and things are just starting to trickle out about

01:02:44.980 some corruption being uh corralled in i think more is going to come the closer we get to the election so

01:02:54.120 i i just feel a shift and the fact that they're putting this movie in so many theaters i think is

01:03:01.660 evidence of it people are ready to see and other people who they must have woke up or something they

01:03:09.620 go boy there's a lot of money to be made amongst normal people instead of just the most marginalized

01:03:16.920 groups yeah i hope i hope and i i think uh i can detect i see a lot of the shift that you're talking

01:03:23.000 about i think it's some of its legislative there have been some big legislative victories at least

01:03:28.760 statewide um even on the gender issue i mean i don't know how many states there are now that ban uh

01:03:33.960 child mutilation like we shouldn't need any laws to ban it because it just shouldn't be happening but

01:03:37.860 we do need laws because it is happening and there are many states now that that that have uh have

01:03:42.620 passed laws against it tennessee being my home state being one of them um so there's that there's

01:03:47.660 legislative political shifts that that there but i also i do think there's a cultural shift um even

01:03:53.180 just you know what is a woman we uh and we filmed that three years ago and part of that was yeah we

01:04:00.820 were talking to the so-called experts who pushed the gender ideology but we were also we also went and

01:04:04.540 did uh kind of man on the street interviews with just random people in you know six or seven cities

01:04:09.900 across the country but and asked about these issues and we found three years ago when we filmed it

01:04:14.820 we found that most people were too afraid to talk about it yeah um if we asked them what is a woman or

01:04:22.340 should men be allowed in the women's room most people we talked to either would say yeah men should

01:04:27.080 be allowed or they wouldn't want to talk about it or you know uh because they were too afraid i think that

01:04:32.560 if i went and did the same exact man on the street interviews in the same cities again today

01:04:37.240 i think there'd be a lot more people who are willing to say look a woman's an adult human female no men

01:04:42.220 don't belong in the women's room that's ridiculous i think people are are it's not even like they've

01:04:47.500 been awakened to the reality because they knew the reality all along but they're emboldened

01:04:52.460 to you know speak the truth that they that they've always known i think that's happening

01:04:57.920 and i think that a lot of those uh the uh street gangs that the democrats unleash and use they might

01:05:07.420 have they might have got smart too they might have got a little bit smarter as well you know to say

01:05:13.540 uh we can't be the shock troops for the democrat party when we're you know our one you know you mean

01:05:20.080 like an antifa yeah yeah because uh you know we haven't seen antifa not too much except for now well

01:05:26.640 now they're masquerading as the pro-palestinians that's true but um and that was the that was the

01:05:32.120 you know the scheduled race riots we were supposed to get right before an election which is what usually

01:05:36.100 how it usually goes that all got subsumed by the palestinian stuff it's still coming it's still

01:05:41.460 they go and ask him on the street like uh you know where's the river to the sea it's the same people

01:05:48.980 you saw that were over and over again and they are getting paid but uh i think they might have got i think

01:05:56.120 their donors might have got busted a little bit and they're not paying up so well yeah well blm didn't

01:06:04.880 endorse kamala at least as of last week i mean i don't know the whole group but people are getting

01:06:09.480 smart let's hope let's hope i think people are seeing i think people are seeing the connections

01:06:14.760 between being bamboozled and grifted yeah some of that's smart but also just on the left there's a

01:06:23.180 fracturing that's happening and uh and they're they you know the center sort of isn't holding on

01:06:28.440 the left i think because it's it's kind of when you have a movement that's that is built on really

01:06:33.540 nothing like there's no core core of it you know uh um what do they even really believe in i mean we

01:06:40.520 talked about earlier they want to dismantle and destroy which is which is what they want but that's

01:06:44.640 not that's a negative it's a very it's a very negative thing to rally around um and so i think

01:06:51.960 they don't have like a core thing that they believe in and so now they're just sort of eating

01:06:55.740 each other they think america is the worst thing that ever happened that's why they keep talking

01:06:59.700 about the worst part of our country's history slavery but they never talk about when america

01:07:06.820 uh what's that ship the whole steven spielberg made that movie about the amistad that legal case

01:07:15.140 ended slavery worldwide america is the place that ended slavery when a person from a black man from

01:07:23.860 a slave ship sued in the supreme court and won how come they're not teaching any of that to the kids

01:07:30.860 all right i mean uh that we that we as a country defeated our own darkness and and that a slave went to

01:07:41.780 you know someone on a slave ship went to the supreme court and overturned slavery that's pretty

01:07:48.740 big that kids would need to know that yeah white white uh western colonial powers did did not invent

01:07:55.720 slavery because it had been invented thousands of years before that but did it did abolish it uh were

01:08:01.320 the first to abolish it not just abolish it but then but then you know once the slave trade was abolished

01:08:06.960 you had uh european ships that were patrolling the seas yeah to try to to try to seize the the

01:08:13.540 slave ships and you had the arab uh powers that were continuing it pirates yeah yeah and you know

01:08:20.120 america's first war was with the somali pirates and yeah the arab ship would see a british ship coming and

01:08:26.140 uh they knew that they had slaves so they would kill all their slaves or throw them into the ocean

01:08:30.500 um so that they wouldn't be found out i mean so so it was that's that's a part of the

01:08:35.320 the history that isn't told but that's also why they we find this uh hatred for america because kids

01:08:43.260 are not being taught the aspects of our history that would make you like beam with pride like little

01:08:51.460 black kids it pisses me off that they don't know about frederick douglas and they don't know about

01:08:55.600 fanny lou hamer who you know was a communist but still she did organized farmers and stuff and uh you

01:09:02.740 know all of these great black characters in american history that rose from nothing to greatness and

01:09:10.680 and they don't ever teach about that they don't they don't uh teach about um mlk that was one of

01:09:19.940 favorite lines in your movie she said mlk said a lot of things yeah oh my god a lot of stuff yeah

01:09:25.760 can they disrespect him more they have been they have been for a while oh yeah yeah mlk is not

01:09:31.940 popular with these uh with these new dei types he's not he's because he's not well look and anyone who

01:09:37.420 was born uh prior to about 30 years ago is automatically yeah not not up to date and racist and part of the

01:09:46.900 problem um that's why all the statues you know it's like when they started tearing down the confederate

01:09:52.020 statues and whatever it was 2017 or you know that first kind of rush of tearing down statues some of

01:09:57.420 us at the time pointed out and said well look if you're tearing down these statues on the basis that

01:10:02.440 they were white racist and slave owners uh well then guess who else was the founding fathers and

01:10:07.580 guess who else was were slave owners like everybody in history before them so um so they're gonna be

01:10:13.880 next and they were next they were next african kings they had the most slaves so what are you

01:10:19.500 gonna do turn the effing page i look at you and go i shouldn't swear around timmy's oh no you're

01:10:26.060 okay okay let's just turn the page let's get back to sanity let's solve some problems let's start

01:10:34.220 laughing with each other again yeah you know these people that you have in your show i have met so many

01:10:41.120 hundreds of times at so many benefit dinners and i was uh in enjoying seeing them squirm a little it

01:10:49.700 was fun yeah and they're um you know these are these are not good people they are not good some

01:10:57.020 some people when we do these especially on this movie i i get the question a lot of uh how do you

01:11:01.820 keep a straight face how do you not laugh when you're and the truth is it's not laughing it's pretty

01:11:05.820 easy because especially when you're in the room with these people it's it's quite unpleasant and

01:11:10.440 uh the things that they're saying are really terrible uh so i know it blew my mind when i'd

01:11:15.460 be in those rooms and hear it so it's that there really is no uh now we make some comedy of it after

01:11:20.200 the fact but in the room it's actually not funny at all so really really the the the challenge is not

01:11:27.100 like not laughing but it's not screaming at them right which is really what my more of my instinct

01:11:31.340 is what i want to do but that would be a very different kind of movie that was like my

01:11:35.360 writer's room that dinner that was like me trying to get some funny out of some people oh man i can't

01:11:41.620 imagine yeah you can't there's not there's not a lot of comedy to find there at least not intentional

01:11:45.600 comedy no but yeah well you can find it because if you talk to them long enough it's hilarious how

01:11:53.500 preposterously uh whatever the word is pompous preposterously pompous they are yeah yeah i was

01:12:04.140 going to talk to you about releasing when the movie's done the raw footage because one of my

01:12:08.740 things when i'm watching is i actually wanted to see them talk more like the the dinner for races

01:12:12.680 whatever you talked whatever it was called those two women i wanted to see yeah i would love to see

01:12:17.680 their entire panel because to me that's all you're hilarious in it by the way but them talking i do

01:12:22.760 find hilarious please release this down the road yeah we i mean there's plenty just put a black stripe

01:12:28.260 on their face or just release it they signed a waiver it's unbelievable comedy and that uh yeah

01:12:33.180 that dinner was like two hours long yeah and obviously we can't put two hours in the movie but

01:12:37.020 and it it just is relentless like you can tell you're in the room with them and these women are

01:12:42.400 just getting broken down it's like it's the most intense brainwashing session i've ever witnessed

01:12:46.400 uh-huh they're just breaking these women down and making that it's really weird and they pay for

01:12:51.560 it they pay for it i don't i don't want to give any more away but there is this i'll just say this

01:12:55.520 there is a self-flagellation thing to this that is really troubling it's not just the people

01:13:01.360 coming here and saying oh you're racist white terrible people it's the white people are paying

01:13:05.060 it paying them to do it and that's a really weird psychological thing i don't understand well

01:13:11.100 then they'll be absolved of their whiteness and their racism well yeah i mean that's the idea but

01:13:15.760 you can't be absolved or that's that that's that's the game they bring you in and say okay well you're

01:13:19.500 you are a sinner because you're white here's what you can do to atone and then you do it and then the

01:13:24.180 trick is well but you're still white so you're still a sinner in fact you're just as racist now as you

01:13:28.520 were when you when you first came in um and there's no way out of it uh you know it's it's like a disease

01:13:33.700 that can be managed but not ever cured right is the way that they sell it um i love when you went on the tv

01:13:39.700 show as a dei uh spokesperson and the ladies you were on the shows with like yeah hello

01:13:48.080 can up or whatever it was that's another one i mean they they were buying it speaking of raw footage i

01:13:53.940 mean the uh those are interviews we did in real life and i don't know that i can find those videos

01:13:58.400 like you they're out there somewhere uh that one in utah in particular was very funny because we

01:14:02.980 first of all the other ones we did by zoom so it's a little you think it's a little bit easier to

01:14:06.260 kind of trick them the utah one i we showed up and we went we came in we signed in i waited

01:14:11.080 backstage but that whole you know that was a segment we did and we could only include a couple

01:14:15.800 minutes of it yeah there were some other good moments like i had a chance didn't make it in the

01:14:18.900 movie but um in utah it was a white woman and an asian woman and at one point uh the white woman

01:14:26.440 interrupted the asian woman and so i had a chance to correct the white woman and so you've just

01:14:32.000 interrupted a woman of color so this is an example of everyday racism

01:14:35.400 you did say at one point this is more for you than for you which i'd love there's great i highly

01:14:42.620 recommend everybody go see this movie obviously um everyone though should work on their own racism

01:14:48.140 yeah everyone really should look within themselves to get rid of vestigial things from their childhood

01:14:55.780 that stand in the way of making friends or being okay if you are i mean but but i think there are plenty

01:15:01.800 of people who uh are just not racist i mean if look if you don't hate or look down on people of

01:15:07.720 other races right because of their race then you're not racist you might have had many other flaws

01:15:12.340 but you're not racist well i'm specifically talking about people who are all the time out there fat

01:15:17.780 mouthing about uh white people can't be racist i mean that's the most racist thing i've ever heard

01:15:23.060 in my life they should look within their self of why they're saying something that stupid yeah you

01:15:28.680 mean black people can't be racist you said white people right yeah they're saying either way i mean

01:15:34.480 everyone's racist anything other than yourself is just so lacks any kind of self-awareness

01:15:41.700 at all and to like go those people are are not as smart as me whoever's saying and to think that

01:15:50.980 they can tell you what your own motivations are this always gets me that they they'll say that okay

01:15:55.500 well this that this word or this phrase is racist and and and then you can say well yeah but i didn't

01:16:01.080 mean it like i'm the one who said it that's what happened to me when they said you said black people

01:16:05.920 looks like apes no i didn't and there's only there's only one when you say something there's

01:16:11.240 only one person in the universe yeah well there's only one human being in the universe who can actually

01:16:17.080 be the authority on what you meant when you said it and that is you alone uh so it never makes and

01:16:22.900 that's it so it's like if someone says something you're offended because you took it a certain way

01:16:26.880 and they say well i didn't mean it that way that should be the end of the conversation it should be

01:16:30.060 they're the only person who can speak to how they meant it it's just it to me that is nazism when you

01:16:35.800 classify an entire race as beneath you yeah well it's uh it's quite vicious and it's dehumanizing

01:16:43.660 and it never leads anywhere good i mean we've seen throughout history we've seen many examples of

01:16:48.440 certain groups being singled out as the problem or the the source of all our ills or as somehow

01:16:54.540 inherently uh evil and it never leads it always leads to the same place which is bloodshed sorrow

01:16:59.700 and suffering and uh so it's it's frustrating when you're in the middle of it and you're telling

01:17:05.540 people like look guys this is we know where this is going like let's stop yeah and uh and yet the

01:17:11.000 train keeps heading in that direction okay well i just uh would love to thank you for being here

01:17:16.140 today it was wonderful to talk to you uh your movie is called am i racist right absolutely i'm giving

01:17:23.340 you the last word you want to have anything more to say uh well first of all thanks for for having me

01:17:28.200 on it's a thrill and i really appreciate it and uh you know we talked about pre-sales for the for

01:17:32.540 the movie and pre-sale tickets are really important so anyone if anyone wants to go to

01:17:35.640 miracist.com to get tickets that'd be amazing support matt i i love the film we saw he's a

01:17:42.520 soldier on the front lines he's very brave he he makes things turn but he's there to turn them

01:17:48.700 that takes a lot of even if i am an adorable that takes a lot of no it's a very irish thing to uh get

01:17:56.980 there and turn it you know the irish there there are some strong warrior types yeah absolutely

01:18:04.160 well thank you

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The Roseanne Barr Podcast - September 05, 2024

Are We Racist？ with Matt Walsh ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #064

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