Calling Out the Right's Vultures with Katie Hopkins | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #116
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 34 minutes
Words per Minute
177.44482
Hate Speech Sentences
109
Summary
In this episode of The Rosanna Show, we are joined by one of the most brilliant women geniuses on the planet, Katie Hopkins, who has paid the price for being a woman genius, and not just a genius, but a fearless genius standing up for truth and righteousness.
Transcript
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greetings earthlings and humans and others uh nephilim gaborum what are they jake
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anunnaki nazis nazis a big fan of ours now uh what have you whatever whoever you know god sent
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here to hear us today welcome uh clones i forgot clones everybody who wants to hear what we're
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talking about here on the rosanna show and especially animals the most genius of all beings
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the highest intelligence on the planet because they don't need to be manipulated they don't need
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bullshit to feel the joy of life they're highly more intelligent than the human being uh so anyway
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um excited today's going to be a real banger for sure welcome to the rosanna bar podcast
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well you know well you know how i love talking to geniuses that is my life and on this podcast do
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i love it they are rare and far between especially the women geniuses far and few between and uh rare
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rare rare well we got one today one of the og women geniuses on the planet who has paid the price for
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being a woman genius and not just a genius but i uh i don't even know how to say it a uh fearless
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genius standing up for truth and uh righteousness too katie hopkins hi katie hi lovely lady
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i'm so happy to be here oh you are just so great we admire you so much we've been uh wanting to
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have you on the podcast for so long and then we heard you were in town at laura laura logan's
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i can't say that right i always say laura but i say laura or i say laura but it's laura isn't it laura
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you have to go really low with that yeah yeah it's australian laura laura laura isn't she a beauty
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she's a genius she reminds me of i've done it probably this isn't very complimentary but it's
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not intended any other way but i there's a film my husband and son loves and it's stifler's mom
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i haven't seen it you know stifler's mom is it american you discovered jennifer coolidge
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yeah oh jennifer coolidge yeah in an earlier character in that movie in an earlier iteration
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but when she's stifler's mom she just basically oozes sexuality and and young boys are desperate to
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bang her all the time she sort of arrives and falls out of her clothing in a great way whilst
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smoking on a long cigarette and that's what when she walked laura walk do we say that each time now
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i don't know but when she walked around the corner yesterday i was like oh my god it's stifler's mom
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she is that she is that character just oozing out of a glass yeah she has huge bazookas huge bazookas
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and i just want to put my head in them so i spent like i was supposed to be talking to her about
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things she was saying but my mind did think i would just like to put my head in those and just
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which they call what do they call that motorboating yeah i want to motorboat that i do because i feel
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like if anyone ever no one has ever tried to motorboat me in my life because they're just so small
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yeah mine i think they didn't try to motorboat me but i had them well before because you know they
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would have suffocated but then i had them reduced you did so they probably could safely
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motorboat me now but because i don't you know because i'm loathe of human touch
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then you wouldn't it wouldn't no you wouldn't engage with that now but no historically it would
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and mine would have been like little inflatable rubber dinghy
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yeah i don't know i don't know quite how oh yeah so no she's just she just oozes like
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i don't know womanliness yeah you know i'm kind of fascinated by it because i don't have any of that
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you know i'm much more masculine i'm much more manly in my way i feel a bit manly whatever some
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people think i'm trans i couldn't care but she just feels like she just looks like woman what i
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imagine she's very womanly and then and then you sit down with her and this immaculate intelligence
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shows up yeah it's crazy understanding depth knowledge first-hand stuff yeah first house
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accounts of all sorts of things i like that you said you you are very uh you know you have a masculine
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streak masculine yeah i think i do too yeah i yeah i feel like i see it like for me also it's
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slightly physical you seem like kind of more like female than me but people when they when you know
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for the longest time of course i've been hated or mocked or whatever and that's perfectly fine but
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one of the things i get a lot now even now that i'm sort of somewhat redeemed for some reason uh is
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that i'm trans and i don't actually see it as offensive because i see it like i see it i have no boobs
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i'm kind of you know tougher appearing and i have this low voice and uh i totally see it i just i'm
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not although i do say i mean i don't know to what depths of depravity we want to go to today
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all the depths all of the depths that's that was permission i just got i i used to talk to carrie
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fisher about it and she said you know we would always talk about how we had a masculine yeah side to our
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our writing and our being and stuff yeah and well they say in life that your nose and your ears keeps
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growing right right which means by the time if i if i survive any longer i'm going to look like a
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bloody african elephant which pisses me off but the other thing is that there's other bits of me
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that are still growing south yeah i know oh yeah so all i'm just going to say on the trans thing is
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these days i do have to decide whether to dress left or right i know i know exactly what you mean
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they have a point what did i say before about my vaginal lips that the uh oh you say your vaginal
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uh lining is the only thing skinny and thin on you no and that is true but i also said i love that
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you consulted your son for what you may have said about your vag that's why i'm here yeah son what
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have i said about my vag and i also said that my growing vaginal lips they hang in the toilet they're
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so long now so you and i have i mean i think we're basically the same person and i do too and
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when i read your wikipedia page i was astounded because i'm like this this bitch has done even
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more offensive things than me and lived through it but i feel like we're the same as in the same age
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same everything like i because yeah that this whole lip situation mine so i can't wear a legging
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now like you know these because of the camel toe yeah well it's not a camel toe it's more of a
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sandwich more of a full claw i don't think we needed your contribution right at that moment thank you
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son but like it you know it's really grasping and it's like you know those trees are they called
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bayan trees oh banyan thank you so much i have no idea what i'm talking about and they send down
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limbs to the ground that's what i think my clunge is doing yeah i think it's clunge i love that well
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you can real yeah german german around here clunge it's sending down branches and i don't know what
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vitamins it needs from the soil because i would just put them in my mouth if it would tell me but
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these things are out of control yeah truly yeah definitely it's restricting what i can wear and
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the pubes are just they grow down to your knees oh all down your legs and everything and there's
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no need to shave your legs right now you have to decide some things don't you got to get an extra
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razor for the job yeah and now you know once you hit 50 how old are you now 72 so i feel the same age as
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you like legitimately a hundred percent and people have always said i look old and i've always felt
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older than i am but like you used to have to shave like back in the day when you made an effort like
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when you wanted to live oh when you wanted to like have a boyfriend or like maybe try and get married
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or get someone to ask you to marry them like you'd shave your legs wouldn't you do other things as
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tangent but the story i like which i haven't shared but how i passed my driving test was exactly that
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oh really lay by yeah never drove the car that's amazing yeah first true story got the first lay by
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oh you mean to your instructor i would yeah instructor that's how you passed yeah i still
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so yeah these bits of me are long um and so i do feel i i you know i feel masculine and i think i'm
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quite i have a masculine sense of humor yeah so which is probably also what we
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yeah because i don't find women women that funny i don't either no it's so tired oh isn't it
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thing and my labia really long but i'm not trying to be the oh look at me i'm so feminist i'm making
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myself deliberately ugly so you know that kind of funny female i don't get that yeah at all there was one
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bitch at the edinburgh fringe and she was bleating on about how she hadn't sold a single ticket but
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like on her bio it says like female vegan gluten-free lactose intolerant adhd surviving pro-palestine
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activist and you're like yeah really that's fucking hilarious right there i'd go to that show it looks
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like a hoot you know oh the edinburgh that's where there you go edinburgh sorry i forgot yeah oh my god
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they tried to get me to come over there for several years and i was like did you tell them to stick it
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up their ass i'm like you guys ain't funny you're not funny comics go over there you're not i love
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that nobody's funny there oh but they're all this it's such it's a mafia yeah it's a clique it is and
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they want to stay inside the clique and and this year so two of the jewish stand-ups they had their
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shows canceled because of course the staff wouldn't feel safe yeah the bullshit excuse
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of jewish stand-up comics right isn't that great right and so but but you know which is obviously
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ridiculous in and of itself but the rest of the comedians up there support in the fringe turned
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turned their backs so that they would be allowed to continue with their show and that's why i look
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at them and go you call yourself a stand-up like yeah you spineless asshole yeah they are and i mean
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you can imagine their jokes because they knew they probably knew the jews were funnier i mean all
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those people like they go on strike because they hate funny yeah they hate funny that's why they
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always call it alternative comedy which means it isn't funny it isn't funny and they just yeah they
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just sit there almost sort of self-congratulating yeah what it feels like you know it's chronic masturbation
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yeah that's all it is so funny i was about to say let's all sit together and wank each other off
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that is what it is yeah and they come out of their feeling like oh that was good we all had a wank yeah
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and then we look in from the outside and go oh my god and they're like let's talk about the irony
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the irony of us being privileged and speaking for the oppressed thank you and good night we'll be here all
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week i can hate those people yeah yeah and same with like the emmy awards right the whole oh my god
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the emmy awards was a fucking horror from hell did it trigger you to death i didn't even i never
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watched anything because i mean they're all like child molesters and sycophantic oh just all right
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you didn't even watch the one where you won the emmy you weren't even there
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yeah i didn't even go and then the one time i won god did you wish you'd gone afterwards i wished
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i had gone yes because i had my speech yes you should have gone yeah i should have gone because
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i had my speech it was going to go i would like to thank me oh and i forgot i'd also like to thank
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myself and oh i'd like to thank i thank you and good night you should have done it yeah and you
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know you should have done it but i was so hated by then i didn't want to be around them no they
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hated me like they hate you don't they just hate fucking funny smart women it's a fucking
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jag off it's just a jack off club they despise funny smart women yeah that so for the longest time
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so i was most hated woman in the biggest bitch in britain most hated woman la la la and then
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there's been this weird in the last five years amongst decent ordinary people who've had enough
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that i've had this kind of redemption where i'm allowed to exist and not only that they'll come
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and sell out everything i do which has just been i'm so bloody lucky to have lived long enough to have
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that bit but they're being actually hated by everyone and the understanding through people that didn't
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question it or just went along with it was yes she's hated because she's a bitch and she's terrible
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and you could spit at her in the street and that hatred just was permeated everywhere and i i was
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never of the inclination to try and correct the record and never people some friends would say of
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friends but they'd say we should try and let people see the real you if they saw the real you
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they'd really like you and actually i always thought well fuck them yeah you know i don't mean it
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it doesn't mean it did it it wasn't awful it's awful it's like awful you can't walk into a restaurant
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with your kids because you can't risk that someone will be mean because you don't want your kids to
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feel hurt by the treatment of you because they know the real you and you're not an asshole they know you're
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just a nice regular person but um but there was a big part of me that used to just think no i'm not
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going to correct you i know who i am yeah that's a lot of strength yeah and that's where i went to
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for 10 or so years was and sometimes lying on the floor of our house just not knowing how i was going
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to get it up but at least being able to go or maybe one of my kids would be like you know who you are
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and i'd be like yeah okay yeah but and now are you a believer yes did you get strength from that
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that yes but in a in a sort of um i believe i'm certain of lots of things i'm not in any way
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trying to convince anyone else yeah of what i'm certain of but you have the strength inside that
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yeah i know that my end day is already decided for sure i know that um your path in life i think is
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already set like for me to be here today i would definitely believe that's supposed to happen oh
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yeah because how would you be just up the road at the same time as as as how would you cross paths
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with like and then like so i believe all that's set and i believe the more that you which i did arrive
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here without a plan really the better the clearer your path becomes if you just follow it and sometimes
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you're not sure of it and sometimes it seems like it might be the wrong path well you have to accept
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that as well right so it's that kind of faith it's a very kind of open fluid thing yeah it might be
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over forgiving and over permissive and uh many people i'm sure would disagree with much of my life
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and consider it to be not conservative or catholic or christian or whatever the correct thing is at all
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but i i know i'm a big believer in all that just because you blew your driving instructor i blew my
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driving instructor i stole people's husbands you know i have a track record of being quite unsavory yeah
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in certain department one of my favorite things you did is to um gain and lose 30 pounds just to
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show obese people how easy it was to go on a diet what a cow can you even imagine what a
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bitch so what what happened i uh i just and did it on tv because what fat people because of fat acceptance
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yeah so there was well there was a whole thing this is where i i love you so much i remember this
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oh my god so what had i done i'd done something and they were they were wanting ideas off me
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in i so to the uk we have this health care system that you just always pay in right everyone pays in
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all the time but you never really kind of use it yourself if you take a little bit of care of yourself
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really but unless you know all things can happen to anyone of course but like so certain people just
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eat themselves to the size of a market planet but then have no conception of why they might be fat
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like not my business you're fat not my problem not my business you want to be fat brilliant you be as
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fat as you want to be but equally don't say oh i need a new hip because i've got bad hips no you're a
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fat ass to pay for your hip or like oh fat being fat runs in my family you know no it doesn't nothing
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has ever run in your fucking family that's half the issue right so fat people kind of piss me off
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because they wouldn't own their shit i'm so big on owning you know i own everything that's ever
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happened to me the worst picking up a cunt award i own all of that because i brought it on myself
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like so that's really my sort of founding principle is own everything that happens to you because it's
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a lot better that way yeah that was my thing and i went into it you know how it goes with production
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and they were like so if you've got any ideas and i was like you know what fat people are pissing me
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off you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna put on half my body weight in three months i'm gonna lose
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it again just to show that if you did want to do something you could and they went great and it was
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commissioned in two weeks which you'll know never happens yeah so yeah i did it and if i hadn't been
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filmed i would have absolutely failed and dropped out because it was disgusting it was the most
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disgusting thing what to gain 30 pounds oh my god well it was 40 close to 40 in the end so yeah i went
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from what we would say 10 stone you know up to nearly 15 stone so like half of me again
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and i had this great idea like it was all gonna go on my tits i was like yeah this is gonna be great
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and i started looking at bras and things thinking like you know i have a bit of a boob thing but it
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didn't it all went here yeah and this massive gunt this huge gunt that started from here and just went
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out down and then in a round just above my badge which i lost sight of for that time
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it was terrible yeah what did you eat well everything all the time you had to get in
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you know five or six big meals so you go to bed sick wake up sick eat more sick
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it's just a lot of puking yeah you probably have no idea about any of that at all i imagine
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being such a healthy person as yourself well i i go up and down like it's just this is small
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you now right well kind of medium you look small i've been smaller but yeah i have the obsession for
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food bill it's the obsession yeah can you still eat it now or you can't eat it not now no but when i
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get into the hibernation mode yeah i don't come out of my room and it's just all about food yeah but
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then how do you get the food do you bring it no i'll go to the store you'll go to the store and
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stop just put it in put it in just me just me and my food nice i thought you said just meat and i was
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like that's kind of texan sexy but actually you said just you yeah just me and my carbs like if you went
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with sugar and carbs yeah so if you went to the store like if you were about to go into hibernation like
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a winter bear um and you went to the where would you go cvs uh no i'd go to the big grocery store what
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aisle would you hit um bread bread oh anything bread pizza no pizza cheese you know uh yeah cheesy
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bready with yeah you know mayo a lot of mayo yeah you know anything fat carb sugary pork pork no you love
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pork i do i love pork yeah well yeah because i'm so devout jewish well well and uh i've always had
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the obsession for pork since i was severely punished for eating it as a child by my grandmother who
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explained to me why jews can't eat pork and it resulted in a horrendous obsession for pork but um
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um yeah just big sandwiches big old sandwiches you'll do the whole thing potato chips fries you
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know and is there some kind of like if you go into that hibernation with a bag of that bag of groceries
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is there some sort of like it's actually a little bit comfortable oh yeah you're like here i go it's
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wonderful you're getting on that bus oh hell yeah yeah going down the rabbit hole on the internet
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just accepting that you're going down you didn't feel that when you did the weight gain it wasn't
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it's not no i had the weight gain i i hated i was i was a cow i was awful to lovely mark and lovely
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mark was like i don't get it anytime you've been told to do something or you said you're going to
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do something you just do it i don't get it what's your problem and that made it worse because this was
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different this wasn't a this wasn't like oh i'll train to do a marathon i'll train to do something
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tough i'll beat these guys doing that i'll beat these this was making myself disgusting and i hated
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it yeah so i was a cow and at one point he got a pick which i really hated him for as well because the
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production company said to him look if you can get any private videos of her that'd be just that'd be
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just you can imagine the content of that well i was on the sofa couch and i had my massive gunt
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wrapped in some vile festering pajama wear that only fat fucks would ever wear at 18 chins i was
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eating and i was crying i hate fat people for making me do this it's the most disgusting thing
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you've ever seen in your life and the self-pitying cow me like i look at that now you use and mark gave
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it to them and they put that in oh yeah and i was so ashamed how could you ever forgive him well i
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haven't i still hate him the handbrake on the car will inexplicably go one day and my revenge will be
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complete but yeah but i so i did do that to it but actually it turned out to be this kind of nice story
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because actually i got hung out with loads of fat people it was part of this filming and then actually
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listening to people who were devastated by the fact they couldn't get off this ride of being huge and
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hating it and of course then immediately just the human you goes shit you know it's rough it is it's
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a prison a prison of your own making that you can't escape you cannot escape well i guess you can escape
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but but it's very difficult to do so but it's just like torture every minute yeah and and then that lack
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of honesty around that so other people fat people i would say manipulating other fat people into so
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body positivity body acceptance i always found to be a massive manipulation of people who would want
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to be free from the prison of fatness but were told by their fat friends oh no it's better to stay fat
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together yeah and then you see these women bless their bloody hearts that have chosen to escape the
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prison and they get completely ousted and annihilated by the chamber that's what happened to me when i
00:27:05.200
lost 120 pounds people would hate you for losing it and i got down to 103 pounds and i i wore size four
00:27:12.800
and uh like i told my friend who also had lost 150 pounds we spoke about it together and he said well we
00:27:20.400
expected the men to change towards how they treated us just in public but we never expected the change in
00:27:29.600
women and that was horrifying to see the difference in how women treated us because before when we were
00:27:36.000
fat we were pretty much invisible but when we looked you know good in the accepted you know uh social thing
00:27:46.160
competition yeah then it was like i'm gonna stab you to death you're a disappointment to the body
00:27:53.760
positive movement yeah you're you're a traitor yeah but also to thin women you were then uh you know uh
00:28:03.200
a uh like imposter well no you're uh somebody to compete with competition yeah and i see this with
00:28:11.840
this manjaro or we govi or wherever the hell it's called over here these jabs and then thin women
00:28:18.720
slagging off the women using them because oh that's it do you think the answer's in a jab well yeah you
00:28:24.240
mean ozempic ozempic right yeah these jabs that can make you lose some weight and these skinny
00:28:29.360
bitches slagging off women using those jabs because they say well you should put the effort in
00:28:35.440
but you know i just think this this idea that somehow fat people aren't allowed to be anything other
00:28:41.360
than fat that seems to be the rule yeah fat people want fat people to stay fat yeah skinny
00:28:45.600
people don't like fat people when they decide to try and feel better right it's like what what are
00:28:49.840
you asking from fat people then yeah yeah they uh they like somebody to look down on and they do
00:28:57.200
you know who i hate though what's her name jake that that bitch that i hate oh uh may i just get
00:29:02.640
my may i ask permission to get my little lousy drink you don't have to ask permission i'll get it for
00:29:07.280
you but i feel like a child at school what's her name the fat lady i could get it myself but you
00:29:11.920
have to go lizzo lady oh lizzo do you hate her i hate her guts thank you thank you just explaining
00:29:17.600
i don't hate her i don't i think she's very talented and all that stuff but uh i hate all these fat
00:29:25.360
bitches that started that body positivity because when i started my career there was none of it like
00:29:31.520
they put me on the cover of stuff and go big fat cow roseanne like right there where they did the
00:29:37.120
thing about my show in mad magazine everything's a fat joke going she's eating a cow for dinner
00:29:43.360
everything about me in all the press was just uh ridiculous fat jokes there was no body positivity
00:29:52.160
no women stood up for me nobody stood up no you were just a fat woman that could be laughed at
00:29:57.520
yeah and not seen beyond yeah not seen beyond fat and now you know they never thanked me that i was
00:30:04.800
the pioneer that broke through that you know what i mean yeah no one ever went back and went oh actually
00:30:09.920
you were out there way before we stood here right and i really resent it i you and they go lizzo broke
00:30:16.000
down all these burials i'm like that fat bitch yeah she didn't do shit she didn't do shit but put on a
00:30:21.760
leotard and they get some bigger fatters to dance around her which i mean a fair play to those i
00:30:26.720
watch them and i think jesus they that's a lot of weight to shift yeah in a leotard it's a lot to
00:30:32.400
look at like i just do i do look at it in a sort of a golly way you know when lizzo was proper fat
00:30:38.800
and she would play the flute it would always make me laugh because the flute would look like a piccolo
00:30:42.960
because she was so fucking big the perspective got lost struck me as funny but then you got fired for
00:30:51.440
like a whole bunch of tweets and you know just because you were middle you were just in the
00:30:57.040
middle with common sense jokes and what was it like to grow up in england and see everything one
00:31:03.120
way and then slowly see that you were being taken over by a i mean it it's actually it was a muslim
00:31:12.400
mafia wasn't it aided by the left like the fucking uh i'm thinking of those horrible magazines like
00:31:20.080
jezebel and politico and all those shit left magazines that really took aim at any woman who
00:31:26.560
was out of line and didn't go i love that men come in the bathrooms and shove their dicks down my face
00:31:33.920
exactly i love it i can't get enough of it yeah yeah so it became it just being a female and uh
00:31:43.440
just speaking that you know seeing us speaking as i find it i'm regardless of size or side or politics
00:31:50.960
or anything just actually getting to know people and then saying how i felt about the thing or the
00:31:56.640
that became so problematic talking about talking to ordinary people in tiny towns who would say oh
00:32:04.800
we're we're second class citizens here we don't belong here we're being forced there's no one left
00:32:09.900
on my road i used to know everyone on my road i don't know anyone on my road now and because they'd
00:32:14.380
speak maybe with a bit of a funny accent or they didn't look like a city person or you know they're
00:32:19.200
missing a few teeth or had tattoos or seemed a bit common as a british sense you know the class thing in
00:32:25.820
the uk is so strong it was just sort of a mockery oh katie speaking to the uneducated idiots of
00:32:32.180
england about how they feel you know that that the way that the the california some blue newsome
00:32:39.700
loving californians look down on rust belt that same thing well they hate yeah they hate the working
00:32:45.820
class that does all the work they hate the the people who pull on their boots and work land or work
00:32:51.900
machinery or have skills or actual you know stuff in life that when you need help they're exactly the
00:32:59.280
person you want to come because they're tough and strong and stoic and that's my whole heart
00:33:05.200
all the time it's mine too yeah you know and so i had to be and then because i had this kind of
00:33:13.260
at the point that i was at my biggest media wise and i had the daily mail most read column on the
00:33:20.780
most read online newspaper the most watched or listened to radio show in the heart of london it
00:33:27.500
was unthinkable that they would employ me and i they did tucker twice a week sean hannity i had this
00:33:33.020
huge megaphone to my face and i was saying stuff that was not allowed by everyone who controls media
00:33:41.460
because you were the speaking for the common person so they would you know i was in the heart of london
00:33:47.280
doing a radio show and they'd net all their numbers for london were always great because they
00:33:52.060
had people from which would be like la having people from la talk about la things did it but i
00:33:57.280
had people calling in from all ends of the country because they got what i was saying they knew my story
00:34:04.140
and they knew i got them so the numbers were so huge i was difficult to get rid of me but then
00:34:10.680
eventually the pressure became so great i was removed from everything sounds familiar right
00:34:17.120
and uh without even notice or warning i've always said you know if i wrote some crap columns or no one
00:34:26.180
was reading them anymore or my radio show tanked like it had no listeners i'm i'd fire myself yeah i
00:34:32.860
don't want to turn up and do something that i'm not good at i don't want i don't want a job because i
00:34:38.400
want a job i want a job because i'm good at the job right but to be fired because you're good at
00:34:43.600
your job yeah but it's not okay hello that's the thing isn't it yeah they did it all at the same time
00:34:49.820
too and what's fascinating to me is that when you got in trouble when you started to cover
00:34:58.000
the migrants and the uh is it save the children yeah and all of the ngos that are basically
00:35:05.320
the paid transport system for flesh moving across the planet providing their cut of cash to heads of
00:35:16.840
churches heads of state heads of religious organizations that's the stats every day and
00:35:25.840
has been for 20 30 years longer and they're all in on it and i mean how much did that blow your mind
00:35:34.700
first of all to find out about it to discover it to discover it one thing a bit like me walking into
00:35:40.580
the production offices and saying you know what fat people are pissing me off i'm going to put on
00:35:44.960
weight lose again to show that you can do something about it if you want but then understanding it at
00:35:50.920
the level of individual women and individual men who some of whom had butchered themselves to try and
00:35:57.220
escape the prison of fatness and it becoming something much much more personal
00:36:01.260
the same thing seeing what was going on knowing tracking seeing doing following the intelligence
00:36:07.060
of watching these ngo boats meet their schedule appointment time to pick up their next cargo of
00:36:13.620
flesh so from seeing it at a strategic level to actually standing and sweating on the shore and
00:36:21.280
watching those smug well-funded people working the ferries for flesh and still act pious and then be
00:36:31.080
schlepping tired you know how it is on the road to find a lady young girl sat on a stripy horrible
00:36:39.880
chair in the blazing sunshine on a road in southern italy with this little bit of hopeless makeup smeared i
00:36:49.660
just blue smeared here and red sort of put here to look like makeup and then knowing that she was one of
00:36:57.200
the ones that they would have brought across and stopping we stopped and the photographer got
00:37:01.700
pictures from a way back and i asked her what she was doing there i mean it was obvious what she was
00:37:06.860
doing there at the lay by but she said oh my job's to help the truckers have a better day and she was
00:37:13.120
ill and you could see she was ill and i asked where she stayed and she said she was in a house and that
00:37:18.620
should be collected later and i asked her you know could do you ever think you'll be able to leave
00:37:24.740
this place this life and she said oh god willing and you know that stuck with me so everything about
00:37:32.980
that is is you know it's scorched into my soul because she was at the point where the only hope she
00:37:41.200
would have is that god had a plan for her and that is enough sometimes right we that's the hope but
00:37:49.420
also just make the rage that these smug idiots that have the power and think that the better people
00:37:57.760
are responsible for her and every single other woman child boy butchered by the people who bring
00:38:06.120
them over for their own pleasure and then that that that one-on-one understanding of what's going on
00:38:14.740
that's why it gives you the strength to to hate actually you know i i hate that the chief rabbi
00:38:23.380
wrote to my editor to have me fired for sticking my nose into this i hate that the head of the catholic
00:38:31.600
churches was involved i don't want to know that the religious people are into that i don't i really
00:38:37.660
rather not i really rather they weren't i don't want the board of deputies to be aligning with the
00:38:44.460
muslim council to get me out of my job because it doesn't solve what the actual issue is and in a world
00:38:51.300
i much preferred it when i believed religious people were good i preferred it when i believed the law was
00:38:58.420
the law i preferred it when democracy meant something in my country you know i preferred it
00:39:03.360
many of us preferred it yeah you know what was it like to see the uh veil come off to experience the
00:39:12.500
veil come off and see it for what it was really really really lonely like um lonely is not the word
00:39:21.100
like uh yeah exactly that's where i was going next but almost then a picture like you know if
00:39:27.940
you were thrown down a well and you'd be at the bottom of the well and it would be really really
00:39:33.720
golly at the bottom if the well was deep the bottom of the well you can imagine being really dark
00:39:39.480
that's it it's that picture when i saw those emails coming in from my editor saying what what is
00:39:45.960
like he had never seen anything like it what's going on why is the head of everyone everywhere
00:39:51.100
wanting you gone it felt like being at the bottom of the well because i knew back then i didn't realize
00:39:59.040
we'd be doing this now but i knew i would never be able to have the opportunity to persuade i'd never
00:40:07.460
have the opportunity to for anyone to believe the story because i was so hated and no one would care
00:40:16.040
and they'd all be celebrating that i've been let go from my job because they all hated me anyway
00:40:20.340
you couldn't run the story right and the story was human trafficking yeah no no my editor never
00:40:27.400
wouldn't he never printed the story see i always thought you were cancelled for other things this is
00:40:31.980
kind of the beginning of your cancellation this was the whole you stumbled on every other thing got
00:40:35.600
thrown in then and stuck and had been sticking but this was the moment the pin was pulled and i was
00:40:41.560
thrown down the well yeah and the world then it seemed to me the world it wasn't the world it was a
00:40:46.320
few people but everyone was celebrating hopkins out yeah the downfall of hopkins removed from mail of
00:40:53.200
course then two minutes later the radio show was gone never booked again bound from fox bound from i mean
00:40:58.760
i'm speaking to the originals but um just the seller the jubilation of the hyenas yeah this is the fat
00:41:09.980
story again this is the thin people didn't like it because the fat people basically everyone who
00:41:14.980
pretended to be an ally before was loving it because there was an opportunity for them the people who
00:41:21.060
hated me before it was brilliant it was jubilation because haha the witch is dead you know a lovely
00:41:27.280
lady i know who i admire for speaking truth the day she found out my radio show was also gone she got on
00:41:33.700
the phone to my radio boss to ask if she could have my slot jesus and she told me that which i have a
00:41:40.060
great deal of respect for her saying that because it's actually the most truthful it's the person with
00:41:46.300
the sword in your in your belly telling you that they held the sword yeah the first thing she thought
00:41:53.140
to do was to try and get the slot yeah and that's true of our allies yeah a lot of the time yeah it's
00:42:00.440
why we don't have allies anymore yeah get rid of them all well we saw how they were with you but
00:42:05.300
most notably with charlie kirk's assassination i mean they were celebrating on the street yeah the same
00:42:10.380
people and it's it's demonic and the thing it is demonic because only demons can do that kind of
00:42:17.040
thing with children and human flesh as you say human beings human souls only demons do that and of course
00:42:25.140
they're in the real they're religious of course because as the old saying where's the safest place
00:42:31.400
for the devil to hide in church and religion in church and religion and and right next to you
00:42:36.640
actually you know if you're looking for something very often the hardest place to find it is if it's
00:42:42.160
pinned on your back yeah and i've very for a long time i've believed that uh and then this isn't meant
00:42:48.360
to sort of persuade people to be distrustful of people around them but i found some of the biggest harms or
00:42:54.700
the the greatest grievances you can suffer are typically uh inflicted on you by those closest hell yeah to you
00:43:04.380
yeah yeah that's why stabbings are uh from intimate partners yeah they like to get right up close to
00:43:13.380
see you go i mean i read a lot about serial killers yeah but i mean that's their thrill is to see you
00:43:20.960
to see you to see the moment of recognition that you know you've gone yeah yeah and i and i see that a lot
00:43:28.260
with people yeah around and it's why you know covid and lockdowns were so divisive because the people
00:43:35.980
you thought were family or friends people you'd invited to your weddings or people you you had
00:43:42.580
shared the birth of this with or i don't know what's important to people but things people you thought you
00:43:47.840
knew suddenly you realized you didn't know them at all at all and it was that was terrifying in some
00:43:55.000
regard because you believed you knew them and then you were being proven wrong in real time yeah
00:44:01.140
yeah and that's an that's an unusual thing to happen to a human brain or heart yeah and over and over
00:44:09.040
again it you know and over over and over it's like non-stop trauma yeah you know we've lived through
00:44:17.760
that for like what since 2001 almost repeatedly yeah but but i think not to dwell on the negative of
00:44:26.480
it what it did like almost like cutting you know cutting flesh off something what it did it cut it cut
00:44:35.220
away a big swathe of us across all of our countries who saw the lie knew it was wrong yeah and we
00:44:46.340
cut we were cast out but we almost we almost enjoyed being cast away because we became a
00:44:53.680
a very unique community that was now joined by this idea that everyone should be what the hell they want
00:45:00.320
think what the hell they want be what the hell they want just don't tell me what to bloody well do
00:45:05.260
right and we were very lucky i think to live into this moment which i think is where we ended up
00:45:10.140
yeah how do you feel about uh you know the whole the whole uh i mean it was three million people in
00:45:18.180
the streets of london oh the unite the kingdom yeah september the 13th yeah it's massive it's
00:45:24.480
massive it was mind-blowing to see it it was it was beyond anything i could have imagined so
00:45:32.360
tommy robinson's the guy that organized it and he of anyone he was tortured tortured
00:45:40.000
in jail for imprisoned showing a documentary he was told do not show the documentary or we will put
00:45:46.660
you in jail about rape games about rape games and he took the documentary and he put it on massive
00:45:51.180
screens in the middle of trafalgar square and went watch this so the courage of the guy the courage of
00:45:57.480
the guy you know to just know the consequence and still do it people can encourage him and say
00:46:03.640
they've got his back and that they're behind him but it's a very different thing when it's actually
00:46:08.360
you as you'll know as well like people say i've got you we're right behind you but when the shit
00:46:14.260
really hits right behind you yeah where you're losing your house and your home you look around
00:46:19.140
and go where'd they go so but he committed to that and then when he was put in prison this time for the
00:46:25.940
crime of oh whatever else it was he made a commitment that there would be this rally and um when he was in
00:46:32.960
solitary i obviously committed that i would be there yeah and um and then on the day he kept saying in
00:46:40.420
the weeks before you know he said katie everywhere i go they're saying see you see you on saturday see
00:46:45.360
you on see you at the rally friday saturday saturday and i had the same experience i'd be walking by
00:46:50.660
see it see in london see saturday and i'd be like you this is bigger than anywhere i was it was
00:46:57.760
happening and it was happening to him and then on the day i mean the numbers would yeah on the train
00:47:03.620
i got on miles away everybody on that train was going i mean it's just set my arms off now but
00:47:08.780
and so it was glorious i loved it for tommy because it was only he could pull those people
00:47:16.420
into one place only he and you with your help people don't have money there's not surplus money
00:47:23.560
in the uk people are suffering right now and they still got on trains that are expensive and made it
00:47:28.980
there and then also there's all this always this thing same with trump inaugurations whatever the
00:47:36.060
numbers the numbers but the numbers don't matter because the aerial views showed the streets full of
00:47:44.400
people yeah so when people get into the numbers i'm like i don't care the aerial shots show it
00:47:51.160
whatever they want to like it doesn't those streets are not small no and then at a personal level there
00:47:56.640
was a point where we were trying to get forwards we had to get through a slightly constricted area and
00:48:02.160
the crush was a real and be frightening because you know that a crowd that keeps its momentum it will
00:48:08.100
crush you your day so that and then the fact that that moment in history coincided with losing charlie
00:48:17.860
just a few days before yeah meant that it was just such a great moment for and i speak for no one but
00:48:25.340
myself but for us to let america know that we saw yeah that we see and that we so support our american
00:48:35.320
friends patriots across the pond not just charlie but it was a moment i felt like for london
00:48:42.240
to say america you know sadiq khan which i have a different name for that rhymes with runt sadiq
00:48:50.320
doesn't speak for us no we speak for us and we i mean love you lot you know and that's what i loved
00:48:59.080
about it i loved that america could look and see us yeah it meant so much and it was all over the
00:49:06.620
place like it was in germany it was in uh denmark it was soul like over like asia was with it you
00:49:15.500
know everyone it was almost to me like you know the whole thing about you know lanterns on a hill
00:49:21.280
you like back in the days you light the fire on the hill as a marker and then it would spread that
00:49:26.140
to me was what it was like it was like us because america has all has been for so long with trump
00:49:31.380
coming back and 80 million americans voting trump you've been the shining beacon on the hill for us
00:49:36.640
and it was like a little day where we got to go yeah here's us yeah we we're part of you we're
00:49:44.040
grateful to you we see you and we're sorry you know and that's it was so it was just like a biblical
00:49:49.960
level event for me i'm not sure i'm over it yet honestly i don't think we'll ever get over it i don't
00:49:55.240
think we'll ever get over the the uh assassination of charlie kirk i don't think the world will get i
00:50:02.340
think it's a watershed moment turning point not to be cheesy but for uh um liberty but my god you know
00:50:14.840
can you believe that our leaders have sold us out so completely for to pad their own pockets
00:50:22.160
it's it's uh everything we stand for all of our values meant nothing to them
00:50:28.440
it's sort of just you know if you if the word disappointment yeah could be sort of scaled up
00:50:37.060
magnificently and and then put in large font and then emboldened and underlined
00:50:43.220
the disappointment of the huge gulf between the brilliance of the ordinary and i mean ordinary
00:50:53.300
people like us yeah ordinary the brilliance of the ordinary folk in the street versus those who attain
00:50:59.980
power yeah that's got to be one of the cruelest kind of i know what you mean yeah yeah i know exactly
00:51:06.880
the ordinary person every day is brilliant yeah so much more brilliant more brilliant than the leaders
00:51:14.660
of this world sold out leaders you know about everybody the mad crazy guy in the street that's
00:51:21.380
washing himself in the fountain you know the the mother that's dealing with 15 children and somehow
00:51:26.360
keeping her shit together you know the guy that's working three jobs maybe has a mistress as well but
00:51:31.320
somehow has managed to dress himself like the sheer tenacity of the human spirit to somehow make shit
00:51:38.580
work and try and keep up the illusion that any of us have got our stuff together when really none of us
00:51:43.660
have that to me is the the essence of everything and it's why i love being on the road because that's
00:51:51.200
where real life is well how do you feel about tucker i mean he seems to have taken a traitorous turn
00:51:57.540
against the people of the earth you were on his show how do you feel about him i can't get over
00:52:02.280
what a traitor he is to um the entire west what is he doing he's a fucking islam now it's so odd to
00:52:13.800
me you know i've invited to be on his show twice a week you know back in the day that was sort of a
00:52:19.080
thing because that was a big thing right and you know the main slot on tucker twice a week is a big
00:52:23.960
thing and and then now he just obviously is going in some other direction that i have no
00:52:30.560
understanding a lot of maga is i saw this thing where tucker was a f was a registered foreign agent
00:52:39.000
for qatar i saw his papers were well that was to interview the the qatar official to be fair because
00:52:46.620
laura loomer had that expose like tucker's owned by qatar and it was like they they paid him to come
00:52:51.340
interview him which we all know i think putin paid him too i i i just i don't like that one i just
00:52:58.320
can't believe that he is so embracing um well let me just say can i say something because i've watched
00:53:05.820
this i understand the libertarian tucker thing i've always defended candace and tucker here you
00:53:10.740
you i apologize to you you were right i was wrong i'll give you that but i understand it what i don't
00:53:16.760
understand is post charlie kirk yeah for them to dig in tucker candace and those types and make this
00:53:23.180
about donors pressuring charlie and israel and just sort of this they're not saying it outright
00:53:30.540
explicitly but they're kind of pointing to it when we already know who the shooter is it's clearly
00:53:34.720
someone that was leftist it's clearly someone that was mind controlled and brainwashed on the
00:53:38.780
universities i won't even get into who funds the fucking universities it's the same people that
00:53:44.380
you're you're accusing of paying tucker but it's no surprise to me that charlie kirk who was a
00:53:49.900
uh proponent of uh he was pro-israel is killed on a college campus where certain companies pay
00:53:57.000
in the billions to brainwash these kids to me if tucker or candace want to point out hey there's
00:54:02.660
can i just finish real quick charlie they want to point out there's donors and weird shit happening
00:54:06.640
why are we talking about israel not qatar or cutter like it's there's a link there and i don't even
00:54:13.380
make that link i'm only doing it now just to say look i could make that link and i'm not gonna
00:54:16.880
because there's very little evidence so you one day charlie said uh the left is using islam to slit
00:54:23.660
the throat of the west the next day he was shot in the throat and uh
00:54:32.020
well here's how it went he made that statement the next day katherine harridge a great journalist
00:54:41.020
came out with a um video showing how saudi arabia was totally involved at 9-1-1 of course and then
00:54:53.780
the day after that charlie got shot in the throat and uh then the day after that the guy that shot that
00:55:02.860
health executive you know manjioni or whatever yeah they they dropped the terrorist charges against
00:55:11.260
him so they made terrorism legal kind of all those things happened in four days and then they
00:55:18.500
all blamed israel yeah well yeah and to me that shows it's inorganic and there's something else at
00:55:24.120
play here and it's terrifying because we know that we let me just say this we've been waiting a long
00:55:29.780
time for the world to wake up to how violent the left is and we got that now we have the moment
00:55:34.880
there's no more argument the the violence is coming from your side democrats and candace and tucker wait
00:55:41.240
for this for 10 years we went through covid we've been through election fraud and they choose this
00:55:45.260
time to point the finger at bb netanyahu when we have we this could take us to the midterms and win
00:55:50.240
the next 10 fucking elections it's clear now we have moral fucking authority and they're pissing it away
00:55:56.760
for some weird anti-israel campaign that's not even linked it makes zero sense to me they're showing
00:56:02.020
who and what they are and i think i have a theory that it's whether they're paid or not that there's
00:56:06.480
certain people that want maga divided by christian zionists pro-west and this whatever the fuck this
00:56:14.680
shit is this nazi let's fucking chrysalm let's let's align ourselves with it is chrysalm fucking
00:56:21.560
terrifying that's the split i've you seen a split just yeah i think you know for me
00:56:26.680
it's it's sort of sometimes when terrible things happen we try and find a theory to explain it
00:56:32.920
um so some people try and explain me away by saying that i'm a massive zionist shill and i'm paid for by
00:56:39.480
the jewish agencies uh i categorically can assure you i'm not hence these trousers are about eight years
00:56:45.860
old but you know that's not i'm not trying to defend myself here but i would say that in a time of
00:56:50.880
horror sometimes i think it is appropriate for people to just shut up yeah just shut up and what
00:56:57.460
i what i probably don't understand is having watched over the decades of candace and charlie when they
00:57:02.600
were working together is i would have thought that if you were so close to someone in the way that i
00:57:09.120
observed them for over a decade your horror at what's gone on would leave you if not mute
00:57:15.780
then recognizing that the most respectful thing you could do would be to be mute because i think
00:57:22.580
silence accords some of the most respectful moments there are which i appreciate my mouth is always
00:57:28.440
open i've always got a bloody opinion of everything and everyone can say i'm a hypocrite at this point but
00:57:32.840
silence is a very powerful way of stating respect and i would much have preferred candace and tucker and
00:57:42.600
others whomever's engaging in this what many people actually to just shut up yeah because charlie was a
00:57:50.300
good man yeah and we don't have him and stop chasing clicks for your sad little shows for god's sake
00:58:00.360
shut up amen and how um do you think they're making a power grab for tp usa because the national
00:58:10.520
socialists of which they are really uh the national socialist wing of the far right uh they want to
00:58:20.120
control tp usa so you think you know how i was mentioning when i was removed and i was removed from
00:58:27.540
my radio show a lady i respect rang immediately to try and get my slot the jealousy that is accorded to
00:58:36.360
charlie kirk i'll speak about him in the present tense has always been so strong because he was the
00:58:41.680
obvious next presidential candidate after in time when he was older he had the funding and that they
00:58:47.420
were also jealous of they were so jealous of his billionaire donors actually because they would
00:58:52.560
love to have them themselves especially with the mess that some of them have currently got themselves
00:58:57.120
into financially despite marrying very rich husbands legal bills coming we've got a lot of legal bills that
00:59:03.740
the uh husband's family will not be too impressed by but that's not the point the point is that so
00:59:10.580
much jealousy around charlie that in the moments of his death instead of the silence of respect the
00:59:18.160
jealousy and opportunity and the the opportunists are very often the ones closest again yeah to charlie
00:59:26.200
there is now a massive power struggle underway for who is going to be the rightful owner of the billions
00:59:35.120
that are sitting in a war chest for charlie's presidential run yeah so wow the worst of humankind will
00:59:44.660
show itself witness it and we will bear witness
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um i feel so sorry for the youth that love charlie and what he led them to which was basically self
00:59:59.780
uh well introspection totally and they and a connection to their own power source their own god right
01:00:11.240
and they're trying to yeah and they're trying to pull them into ideology yeah which will destroy them
01:00:19.060
plug into goodness wasn't he was about charging yourself up with goodness yeah if you know what
01:00:24.200
you're living by rules that you understand by you know your commitment to your faith you'll feel power
01:00:31.040
you'll know power you'll have power and you'll have the power to do good things and to be resilient
01:00:36.740
against difficult things he he was charging people up and that's why in a way like you know we come
01:00:43.300
from farming stock so when you scrape when you scrape the yard you scrape after the cows have milked or
01:00:49.140
whatever that's how i kind of see it is i try and just sort of scrape away all of the muck of the of the
01:00:56.800
people wrestling over who's going to be anointed king and underneath that is this vast layer of
01:01:04.480
students who love charlie and and still want to continue what he was trying to do this horrible
01:01:11.640
squabbling few of noisy noisy fools yeah you know isn't it they're always the same it's always the
01:01:20.340
same they get the share of voice but they don't deserve the share of voice i remember the cast of
01:01:24.760
roseanne turned on her it's a interesting parallel you're drawing with tucker and candace you can see
01:01:29.500
that there's some truth to it and the person that tried to take your radio show that it's it is a it's
01:01:35.360
a void of power that people just want to fill right in it's disgusting and and for a long time but they
01:01:40.740
don't have any uh they don't have any direction they don't have any core they don't have any beliefs
01:01:46.920
in really they don't have any belief in the god of goodness right it's a uh divisive hateful
01:01:55.980
uh cry for blood yeah and it's a belief i think fomented in the idea that we are all in competition
01:02:05.280
yeah each other in the sense that they perceive they are as talented or as gifted or if not more
01:02:12.200
gifted than charlie well look what he's got all these donors and all this stuff i'm better than what
01:02:17.760
he is so now he's not here righteously i should have all of that stuff yeah exactly one moment do they
01:02:24.580
have the kind of introspective ability to go maybe he did have qualities of staying power of doing the
01:02:31.320
same thing over and over every day every damn day on a plane at a campus do you think he really wanted
01:02:36.920
to do that some days when he woke up yet he did it and this they're a they're a perception that it's a
01:02:43.220
competition yeah and that's why we see all of this segmentation of damn everything yeah every movement
01:02:50.740
on our side every kind of nationalist movement on every country has divided into
01:02:56.400
shattered fragments of what it should be we've got nigel farage with reform we've got ben habib
01:03:02.920
with advance uk we've got rupert lowe with his party we've got lawrence fox with reclaim we've got
01:03:09.700
unite the kingdom with tommy you know what i mean and then over here it's the national people's front
01:03:15.360
oh we're the people's national front we're the national federation of women we're the women's
01:03:19.360
federated republic women we're federated but not republic but federated jesus people it's it's
01:03:26.440
factioning the greatest tool of the left yeah that's what communism really does is faction people
01:03:32.460
faction the power of the people into little tiny pieces so they can't get together and say no we're
01:03:39.260
not doing that which those marches were like no we're not doing that we're not going to let you
01:03:46.880
do that to us yeah which is why it was so it was so elegant everyone was in yeah and and the thing
01:03:53.440
that was so lovely that i just loved at this end you know i love to take things down to the level of
01:03:59.540
individual because there's so much hope and positivity at the level of individual
01:04:03.220
is that people said to me oh you know and we came today we didn't know we weren't we didn't
01:04:09.600
know about coming you know some people are nervous or anxious have been told it might be frightening
01:04:13.200
or whatever and they came they're like everyone's just been so nice yeah and that was always true
01:04:18.140
with trump rallies that i've ever been at yeah people like to go to them regardless of really trump
01:04:23.200
or mag or whatever they'd go because it was so nice yeah everyone's having a lovely day we've all got a
01:04:27.940
flag you know we're all here together something goes wrong you know they're respectful
01:04:33.040
to law enforcement if there's litter someone picks it up it's like oh it's really nice
01:04:37.020
hanging out with these people and i think that's what charlie built yeah it was just it was really
01:04:41.660
for people to turn up at charlie events they were really nice well i loved how they would send their
01:04:48.060
best in to battle him oh and he would just be kind rational and uh stay in the stay in the uh calm space
01:04:58.780
and never let him bring they he never let them bring him to the edge of his chair and never let
01:05:07.240
them enrage him or uh manipulate him or move him off this his center point which was so powerful and
01:05:16.320
that sent such a great message to the young people especially young men because he looked strong and
01:05:24.300
defiant he did oh he did and there's i watched this little insta like i know you shouldn't go on
01:05:29.920
instagram and watch animals because that obviously makes you a sad bastard but i was watching a hippo
01:05:35.560
earlier a baby hippo and the zookeeper was trying to get the baby hippo into its where it should go but
01:05:41.600
the hippo didn't want to because he wanted to be in the water and baby hippos i love that i know what
01:05:46.080
you're talking about i watch all the animal videos okay i love the baby hippo i just i just think i i don't know
01:05:52.380
i think i definitely want to come back as that but anyway the baby hippo is learning how to weight
01:05:58.040
himself so that if she tries to move him he goes into like heavy hippo mode and she can't pick him
01:06:04.600
up even though he's a baby she can't pick him up and like that's like charlie when they would come
01:06:09.920
at him and they would say stuff that if he caught you in the wrong moment or like if it caught me
01:06:14.380
and i'm hungry yeah i'm a bitch when i'm hungry like i will rile for no one you know anything boom
01:06:19.760
that he would go into like weighted hippo mode right yeah and it wasn't you couldn't see it but
01:06:27.260
he was he would nothing you could have just battered him and he would not have gone down would he yeah
01:06:32.000
and that was such a great thing and i actually i disagree with the people who are doing the
01:06:40.060
obnoxiously simple thing of taking charlie clips where he's supposed to be a bad guy
01:06:45.900
and then explaining why he's actually a good guy with another clip i find that so obnoxiously
01:06:51.560
simplistic content i can't even bear it because you don't have to answer to that crap because he
01:06:57.580
wasn't those things right so all you have to say is well that's a load of crap and i'm not even
01:07:01.680
going to give it the airtime yeah why do people you know they want the click so they play the bad
01:07:07.520
stuff about charlie it's just that is so lame it's the indulgence of cretins yeah for clicks
01:07:16.860
yeah it is and we do that in our lives as well yeah i remember when i was we we some of us
01:07:24.360
uh we need to cling to the negative that's where we're fed we can't a lot of us don't even know what
01:07:33.660
the positive is right right right and this indulgence of cretins is something i try through
01:07:41.620
what i do to help people see yeah not this is how you deal with cretins watch me put this guy down
01:07:48.000
not that not let me film antifa and show them shouting not that but how do you go like a heavy
01:07:54.680
hippo yeah and not indulge cretins so an example my first husband i'm counting them up ops i'm on second
01:08:03.160
yeah the call mark my current husband at four see you're my aspirational woman you're my role
01:08:10.280
model right but when damien left me not only did he just leave me which and i stole him from his wife
01:08:17.560
so let's not you know let's not oh holier than thou um he left me in the maternity ward oh my god
01:08:26.480
second hour second daughter so i just gave birth the following morning he was gone
01:08:31.600
ran off with the secretary but this isn't this isn't a criticism of him so i had two children
01:08:37.720
under the age of two on my own with no husband and i remember a friend from the where i worked she
01:08:44.740
worked with for me whatever i remember her coming around going oh how are you doing god it must be
01:08:51.440
must be so bad and i was reading about damien and and he's um he's and i went stop stop because she
01:09:00.600
was about to show me i don't know i think he'd gone to barbados or something you know and i'd been
01:09:05.760
deliberately in order to self-preserve not looking at anything because i couldn't i couldn't handle it
01:09:11.480
and and i just managed to say stop i don't want to hear another thing i don't want to hear another
01:09:17.300
thing because one of the things people close to you with the knife in their hand do is going oh is
01:09:24.080
it is it you must be i'm so sorry you must be feeling dreadful and then they're waiting to catch
01:09:29.740
i know they want to help you feel worse they want to help you bleed and they want to catch your blood
01:09:35.760
and then they want to make themselves feel better by oh my life is way better than hers right now
01:09:41.280
and and that's one of really the most powerful things i try and say to particularly women is be
01:09:48.080
aware for those people and it's fine that they're in your lives and it's fine that you hang out with
01:09:52.620
them but don't fill them up yeah yeah see the trough that they come with you know if there was a bucket
01:09:57.640
here see the bucket they're holding let them hold the bucket tell them you see the bucket tell them i
01:10:03.680
see what you're trying to do but i'm not going to fill you up with all of this you know what i mean
01:10:08.500
yes i do they can still be with you they can still be your drinking partner your work colleagues
01:10:12.940
you don't have to cut everyone out your life if you don't want to but you can control what they do
01:10:18.160
to you you control the cretin yeah and i see it around charlie now i see with the behavior of these
01:10:25.680
people yeah and i'm it's okay be be a cretin i'm not going to go on social media and post about
01:10:32.940
you being a cretin i don't need to i'm holding silence but i see you yeah i see that's what's good
01:10:38.480
in one way is that we do see we do see them people see and other quiet people bear witness yeah
01:10:45.720
yeah i think it's all about witnessing what what people are doing so we can see who they are
01:10:52.240
and when they tell us we have to see it we don't we can't excuse it no we have to absolutely see it
01:10:59.840
you don't have to react to it necessarily at in that moment either um you know there's this saying
01:11:05.200
about you know if you wait and don't excuse them no no everybody rushes to excuse no no no you hold
01:11:10.620
the bucket yeah i see you with that bucket you will hold it yeah i want you to know i see it i see
01:11:17.160
you yeah and then you leave that and then you wait quietly by the river because if you wait there
01:11:23.320
long enough the bodies come floating by you know that sense of hold your power yeah is the other
01:11:29.720
thing like don't give it away right that is what charlie did yeah i could see him go deep into
01:11:36.120
center yeah and just stand there in strength and belief no that was just such a great uh great uh
01:11:43.300
thing to model for people i think it'll it's going to be felt for a really long time yeah
01:11:50.260
i don't i don't even think it's explicable to people yet no things i think things take time to find
01:11:57.340
words and articulate them and also i think things come like i imagine if you're having thoughts or
01:12:02.880
whatever come to you in quiet moments yeah and then suddenly you're impacted by something that you
01:12:08.800
realize that you hadn't realized until that moment right you can't sit and find it it has to come to
01:12:16.120
you when when you'll have space for it i think so but i still feel this weird uh maybe an adrenaline
01:12:25.700
overload from whatever but there is this weird positivity out of it yeah i get that optimism i
01:12:31.640
have this huge sense of optimism out of it with it um i feel like i'm going to ask you uh
01:12:41.160
a question after this but i feel like uh everything's being exposed for us to see
01:12:50.680
which this might be the first time in history when uh we're actually
01:12:56.380
seeing everything being exposed before our eyes and no amount of church or state and no amount of
01:13:08.240
bullshit can keep us from seeing it clearly and that's huge and uh and i and i agree i so see that
01:13:17.680
and then i also see people arriving now with questions questioning and i love that that
01:13:24.480
people are turning up you know i call it with my kind of crowd oh so of oh oh fuck off right so here
01:13:33.600
i say i in the audience i say i see you guys because i really do i see them in the street i know when i
01:13:39.180
walk past one of us oh fuck off because we've been lied to and told stuff so long that already right here
01:13:46.700
it's there they're already before you even say anything they're like i know enough now to know
01:13:53.200
i'm not going to take any shit from you whatever it is i'll listen and i'll decide for myself what i'll
01:13:59.560
be doing next thank you i love that people come with that and then i love i love that we're able to
01:14:06.080
show and demonstrate this loveliness so so the rally with this aerial shot just just that is a
01:14:15.880
purest kind of demonstration of just support for a something bigger than whatever we've been told
01:14:22.900
and then at my shows now where my my not even my supporters people will come to the show sell them
01:14:29.480
out in moments so the theater will be reluctant to hold them 48 theaters cancelled in the first tour
01:14:35.940
then we go back to the ones that held firm and now none cancelled in the last well one cancelled in
01:14:40.960
the last tour but now because theaters if they will have the courage to hold a night it's only a
01:14:47.140
comedy night for christ's sake then our lot will sell the place out in record time because they're
01:14:54.180
putting power into us and then the theater staff without fail will say to a lovely mark usually well we were
01:15:03.800
so surprised by the audience we were so surprised by how lovely the audience were and mark will always
01:15:11.940
say well thank you very much that's really kind the team will be really grateful to hear that but i want
01:15:18.220
to say that's on you yeah you were surprised because you're an idiot because you were sold that everybody
01:15:26.560
around me or any of us whatever is a it's going to turn up and be a thug or a moron or a you know and
01:15:34.520
i we don't do that because obviously lovely mark knows better about how to manage a tour than i do but
01:15:40.300
it's on you that you were surprised by my audience because i'm not surprised and i'm not surprised that
01:15:46.520
there's a 92 year old and an 18 year old and sturdy little lesbians by the hundreds because i love
01:15:54.080
studio lesbians i know i'm not surprised because we know our our side it's everyone yeah it reminds
01:16:02.700
me when i went to las vegas first a headline after uh i sang the i butchered the national anthem and
01:16:09.480
everything and they did a big thing on vegas and they asked this guy what's the most surprising thing
01:16:15.680
you've seen in vegas in your 30 year career and he said believe it or not he said uh
01:16:22.440
that the audience supports roseanne bar that's what he said that is precision yeah exactly well
01:16:31.960
i mean apart from the fact that you just threw in there when i headlined in vegas which was kind of
01:16:37.160
that was quite a power move i'd really like to be able to say that but other than that the precision
01:16:42.660
of that that's precisely what i'm living now he's like what people like roseanne bar and they still
01:16:50.960
say it all the time what people like roseanne bar they can't fucking believe it no and and even then
01:16:57.720
after you stand on a stage and say i'm you know at the front of the end of a show not here to be to
01:17:03.140
agree with me tonight i'm not here to be liked and at various points tonight you'll probably be offended
01:17:07.360
and that's perfect like we i suspect i have never asked to be liked i've never i just want to make
01:17:13.780
people laugh right but what i'm saying is you never asked to be liked you've always just been
01:17:18.860
out there saying your shit doing your shit yeah yeah doing your skill your craft i want to piss
01:17:23.480
people off piss people off make them laugh thank you oh your mic's gone yeah yeah i want i want to
01:17:30.380
provoke you want to we want to provoke people into oh yeah thought or or or love us or hate us or do
01:17:38.940
both in the same yeah but what are you going to do now you're you're doing your show and you're doing
01:17:44.180
doing another you're kind of doing an evening with a salon kind of thing what are you doing
01:17:49.560
no it's um i'm gonna i'm gonna be not british and put myself down and be apologetic for myself i'm just
01:17:56.940
gonna try and say what i do i do a stand-up comedy show that's awesome i have a warm-up guy for 20
01:18:04.100
minutes who is i love him he's brilliant he started on britain's got talent but he's actually
01:18:10.580
funny and then i do that's amazing 30 minutes first half i do a strong 45 second half and people
01:18:18.020
have loved it this is the third tour we've done this year we i did 55 venues all five nations
01:18:26.460
50 odd thousand tickets fully sold out fastest selling small tour in the uk great and uh and
01:18:35.100
we're on every single venue has rebooked for next year and some of them now are a week long in these
01:18:41.720
theaters in towns where i'm not i shouldn't be there but i am and so i call it one of them i'm
01:18:47.460
calling my residency like vegas like celine dion but more agile i call her celine dion i did there
01:18:56.500
was some funny shit around celine which you and i are not going into right oh boy but anyway it's
01:19:02.800
super it's turned out to be super successful and i am beyond grateful to everybody who comes
01:19:08.940
because they come in many of them come alone they leave feeling better and we have a great time that's
01:19:15.200
the best thing in the world are you going to do it in the states i i do you know how much i'd love
01:19:20.440
to do it here i would love to see you do it here oh and do you know how much i i want to use my words
01:19:26.800
carefully but maybe i shouldn't maybe i should just use my words it pisses me off that no bastard
01:19:34.120
male stand-up has thought oh why don't i get katie over yeah as my warm-up like how much how freaking i'm
01:19:43.860
not saying i'm anything i'm not saying well you're no warm-up that's why well no i'll be i'll be in
01:19:48.980
anything but i just mean like freaking hell boys boys on the network or the team or the conservative
01:19:56.520
they hate us i mean they hate women i mean they do you know it's just disgusting and i see these like
01:20:04.820
you shouldn't bitch but i'm just gonna have one moment where i do you see these people who are just
01:20:09.220
not fucking funny they're not because they're a guy or because they're whatever they they're
01:20:14.140
they get these comedy nights and i just think oh fuck off yeah well they're not funny and so
01:20:20.320
you know we are funny we are funny and that's we're funnier than shit and they hate that and
01:20:26.640
and they're just boring and stayed yeah but i get all these people saying i'd love to come and see you
01:20:32.760
let me know when you're coming over i'd love to come to one of your shows and i want to go yeah go on
01:20:36.380
and tell one of the boys to book me yeah that but that's a slight i think we should start our own
01:20:42.380
thing and i am working on it let's do it a whole woman thing that doesn't have nothing to do with
01:20:48.400
dicks or period i'm so sick of uh dick tards i'm just over it no we're not doing that woman stuff
01:20:55.280
no i'm over dick tarded humans yeah no that and i want elevated uh comedy material
01:21:02.260
and uh thoughtful thought-provoking stuff so um you know i am working on it but then you know i
01:21:10.720
get waylaid by life cheese cheese and wine no but i am thinking of it i love cheese i am putting
01:21:19.900
something together aren't i jake yeah lots of exciting announcements coming in lots of exciting
01:21:24.900
things so i will so nice that you two have each other i will thank you i just want to oh bless you
01:21:30.060
that wasn't a that wasn't a cry for help it was more i know it wasn't a cry for help i want all the
01:21:35.780
funny women uh i want to promote and uh be part of people seeing how funny women are and can be
01:21:47.600
some women are not fucking funny but well i just want the funny ones and there's a lot of them
01:21:52.380
where where are you living now now on the road or yeah so my favorite place is to be on the road so
01:21:59.200
with the tour we just did it was from april to the end of uh nearly the end of august just every
01:22:05.260
night moving okay um or every couple nights moving with a van doing that next year too doing that next
01:22:11.320
year from april through to august again so you're here in the states till april or no but i want to be
01:22:18.020
back over here we want to spend more time here i do want to do shows over here oh you need to yeah
01:22:23.700
i want to i want to and i want to you know it's obviously it's a different kind of humor it's a
01:22:27.940
different kind of funny and it's a different kind of audience which i totally respect but
01:22:31.380
just i just love being out amongst ordinary people yeah and and also i really believe
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that the idleness of so many of the big names and i'm not making this just a boy thing but the
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idleness of so many of the big names is that it is obsessed by the negative it is a regurgitation
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of all the darkness it is oh let's play charlie's worst clips so that then we can talk about why
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they're not true it's so lame and lazy what happened to just boosting this stuff up what happened to just
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finding the funny with a message yeah you know and you know it's all about uh the choice between
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uplifting and degrading correct in a really macro way as well we either uplift humanity and each other
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or you're going to degrade and you're degrading when you reuse content and replay but where's original
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fresh written content which is the other thing is the absence of clever crafting of what has been put out
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absolutely the absence of crafting so candace sitting at her microphone where's the crafted
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written funny which is the actual art of the thing of course i don't need to be saying this to you
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right and then people will say oh did you do all that off your cuff sure sure i did 45 minutes of
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funny yes sure i made it up as i went along well i do that when i'm drunk enough yeah well that's
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because you but you're you have the wisdom of ages to be as funny because i'm so damn old and bitter
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i've been doing stand-up for a long time can i ask you one question from an ego standpoint for you
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you're blacklisted for a long time uk you're the most hated person uk and now you're booking
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shows you're what just be honest how great does that fucking feel that's got to be validating oh
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it's the redemption right you stuck it out and it's happening for her too like none of you ever
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apologize well you apologize but you didn't and you stuck it out no that was a different situation
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no but i um but you never changed no you never changed you stayed true yeah with your like a railway
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track like grinding time comes around i know and amazing to and i genuinely to be alive
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to because i i always you know your time could be up at any time seizures and things whatever but
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your time can be up so my time could have been up in amongst the most dreadful of times the darkest
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of hours and i got to be alive till now with this huge redemption that i i didn't go and ask for but
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i was afforded yes and i never have apologized nor explained nor will i people have been have
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enabled me to be redeemed whilst understanding that i don't apologize and i don't retract so
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suck it up like it hate it whatever but here we are yeah and then they came to this moment in time
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where it turned out they needed broken assed women who have no shame because we won't be shamed
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because we've done dastardly things but it's okay because we pretty much want everyone to be all
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right and we got to live at this minute yeah and i just you know i've got deported i was deported from
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australia and banned from four years i've got deported tattooed on my ass cheek and there's something about
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that tattoo that i really love because there's this front-facing woman on a stage with 1500 people
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who paid to come and have a nice time don't care about me and i've got deported on my ass cheek
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behind me and it's like that's the same woman yeah was deported is now able to sell out massive gigs and
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for us massive not and um and it's so i'm so bloody lucky i wake up like i mean i also wake up being pissy
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or with a headache or needing a piss or with my long labia you know there's downsides to it all right
01:26:38.680
but i'm getting all tied up in your legs and oh yeah yeah so my left leg now goes off on its own
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the fucking thing my not a joke so after my brain surgery and stuff some of my outer periphery is gone
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but my left leg if if i don't look at my left foot i don't know where it is right no for real this is
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real yeah so this foot here so obviously i can see i can touch it but if i'm not watching it it
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fucks off on its own and it does its own thing under tables i've had guys look at me and then i
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realized my left foot is up on their nuts or whatever i'm like fucking get back here you
01:27:17.500
cripple spastic i'm a proper spaz and actually it's the the last thing i got hauled into the police
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station for in the uk just before i got here um i i was told i would either be arrested or i had to
01:27:31.560
turn up for interview under caution was because on my katie's arms my pub where i just you know
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let whatever i called myself a spaz and i got arrested effectively by british police because
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that's offensive jesus it's demonic yeah i'm waiting to find out if i'm going to be charged
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against the online communications act for calling myself a spaz
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i'm so terrified of going to the uk what would happen to me i don't know why honestly why i mean
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i would love you to be there but why would you go no honestly when you live here terrified i live
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i would go but i'd put a big piece of tape on my mouth so i can never speak well they can arrest you
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never tweet you did never never never tape your mouth your mouth is needed more than ever and i
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i just wanted to say because i nearly got to say that i think the two of you like without being
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sycophantic it is beyond unbelievably magical that you two i don't even know about what your
01:28:37.420
relationship is but that you do this with each other that you have this with each other it's
01:28:43.060
unbelievable to me yeah no we love it well she hates me our real relationship but no we love
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each other so much i'm so proud of my son we do a good thing we do a good thing and and we're happy
01:28:54.880
we get along we didn't always get along we've never not gotten along but we didn't always get
01:28:59.980
along we didn't get along like that time where i threw you up against the wall and smashed you in
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the fucking head because you wanted to go live with your dad and i had i was so pissed but we
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definitely and i said you're my son you're not your father's son so you better fucking get that
01:29:17.880
through your head yeah but now look at us we're so happy yeah he came back to uh me and uh
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so i've liked him since then that's that's touching
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i've quite i've quite i've tolerated him since then no i've really loved him i think it's a very
01:29:40.540
uh i have a son who's uh 16 but i i think it's a remarkable mark of a success story yeah for any of
01:29:48.360
your kids to want to be anywhere near not you but yeah it is true i think that's epic if my it is
01:29:54.640
any of my kids but particularly my son wants to be anywhere near me it is such an old bag as you
01:30:00.240
then i'll have done well no shit isn't that the true wealth is that your kids want to hang out
01:30:06.120
with you it is it's the greatest thing and it's something really striking when you have kids
01:30:11.000
16 17 whatever you look like look at this and you go shit i know what the answer is yeah and for
01:30:18.320
your grandchildren to like you is such a blessing too like i was going to tell about uh my grandson
01:30:24.860
that told me uh i don't know if he'll like this but cosmo you know no it's hilarious should we say
01:30:32.860
it's so funny you've got approval for his son he came out i'll do it so you don't get in trouble
01:30:36.880
he came out and he goes you know granny i'm coming out i'm coming out to you today when he was 19 he
01:30:44.900
goes i'm coming out to you i go as what he goes uh i'm coming out to you as a gay i'm gay
01:30:52.700
and uh you know our family we always say all the bad words i go you're a faggot
01:30:59.920
yeah he was like yes i am he goes yeah i'm a faggot and i go that is so fucking fantastic
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i'm gonna call my brother because he's a faggot too i go let me call my brother he's gonna be
01:31:13.100
so proud so i called my gay brother and i go guess what cosmo's a faggot and my brother goes
01:31:21.200
i'm so happy he goes i'll put him on he goes i'm so thrilled that the faggot gene has stayed alive
01:31:30.720
in our family you're the only one i'm so happy that we have a little faggola in our family and we
01:31:37.320
all celebrated that's just that's so but that's our family you know do you know one guy i used to date
01:31:43.080
he came out as gay to get away from me yeah true story my brother did that yeah i mean he was
01:31:50.120
actually gay all along i didn't realize yeah get mad at me for telling him both of you came out as
01:31:54.520
gay jake came out to me as gay and i go you're gay are you kidding me he goes okay no i'm not gay
01:32:02.000
but i dropped out of college so that you would have some perspective aren't you glad i'm not gay
01:32:07.880
yeah this is a relative thing mom yeah nice play i like that i was smart yeah yeah no i just i just
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think that is success and uh and i think that's true for so many things is uh you know anytime you
01:32:22.780
feel yourself getting your head pulled down or whatever if you look at the smallest thing there
01:32:27.960
is a thing whatever you realize that's the stuff that matters right it's just love it's just love and
01:32:34.920
charlie was about love he's like i don't agree with you and you're kind of an asshole and a you
01:32:40.540
know an idiot but you know i still love you i still love you that's what's so great about charlie and
01:32:46.680
that's what and that's you know i think that's so awesome that you've achieved that you've been very
01:32:50.920
successful we can call each other all kinds of things and say all kinds of disparaging things but
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you know the arms are always open yeah and that's what's so great about the western world
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and i want to thank you for being on our show today and we love you so much we want you to come
01:33:10.760
back we want you to come back and perform and we'll we're we're working on some kind of a thing to make
01:33:17.240
that happen we will be able to book you that's what i will say yeah as a headliner oh and we will do
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stand up thank you well now i have to be british you see and i have to go oh i didn't mean that
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thank you very much but don't go to any trouble i know i do do that no but we're taking like 80
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percent of whatever you make yeah perfect yeah because we are jews we are jews yeah come on be
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true to form but you are a delightful guest and we hope to have you back again thank you and i
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honestly i feel beyond beyond privileged to have met you you it was a blast you are rock and roll
01:33:51.920
and my favorite thing about you if i may apart from your lovely relationship your family is that
01:33:56.180
when you laugh you throw your head back and you cackle like an old witch and that's the sort of
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laughter i want people to have that look it is so great yeah isn't it the greatest to just
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love let it go let it go and make it loud yeah as loud as you can it heals amen love you love you too