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00:00:58.020 Canada, it's time for more us, because we're more than just a place on a map.

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00:01:54.500 Welcome to the Roseanne Barr Podcast.

00:02:05.340 Well, here we are at the Roseanne Barr Podcast, and, you know, I always like to have great conversations

00:02:11.100 with people who are really, really genius in their creativity,

00:02:16.240 so I'm honored to have a guest on today who is like a real bona fide, or how do you say it, bona fide genius of music,

00:02:27.940 and unfortunately, that cost him his career as, you know, he's a kindred soul.

00:02:36.020 Too good for the motherfuckers.

00:02:38.500 Ariel Pink, hi.

00:02:42.320 Hi.

00:02:43.600 Are you related to the pink hot dog family?

00:02:47.780 Off of La Brea?

00:02:49.100 Mm-hmm.

00:02:50.400 No?

00:02:51.180 Yeah.

00:02:51.960 I hate pink, actually.

00:02:53.560 You hate pink hot dogs?

00:02:55.300 I just hate pink, the color of pink.

00:02:57.060 Oh, you hate the color of pink.

00:02:57.800 I hate the word, yeah.

00:02:58.740 You even hate the word pink?

00:03:00.380 Yeah.

00:03:00.900 Why?

00:03:02.500 Because, well, I hate the color.

00:03:04.260 I just hate the color.

00:03:05.180 It's not my favorite color.

00:03:06.000 I like blue, but pink is what I named myself, and so that is the cross I have to bear.

00:03:12.700 Why did you name yourself pink if you hate pink?

00:03:15.840 Because I hate myself.

00:03:17.620 Oh, okay.

00:03:18.980 Because your real name is what, Rosenberg?

00:03:21.840 There you go.

00:03:22.940 Now you know why I hate myself.

00:03:24.860 Ariel Pink Rosenberg.

00:03:26.700 I hope you're not related to this guy my dad hired to go rip shit off the walls in people's

00:03:35.280 house.

00:03:35.660 Copper?

00:03:36.640 Huh?

00:03:37.020 Copper wire?

00:03:38.580 No, curtains.

00:03:40.720 Ethel Rosenberg?

00:03:42.180 Not Ethel.

00:03:43.420 If they didn't pay their money at the first of the month, then Jack Rosenberg would go rip

00:03:49.920 the curtains down out of their house, and my dad said we're going to have him over for dinner,

00:03:55.720 and he came over and he chewed up the corn and then spat it out on the plate, and I was

00:04:00.740 appalled.

00:04:02.780 I mean, just absolutely appalled.

00:04:04.700 I had never seen anything like that in my life, and he chewed it up like a hog and then

00:04:09.780 spit it out.

00:04:10.940 So anytime I hear the name or the word Rosenberg, I'm like, I flash back to Jack Rosenberg.

00:04:17.900 That's my grandpa.

00:04:18.520 I hope you're not related.

00:04:21.580 He was creepy.

00:04:22.220 No, no, no, no, no.

00:04:23.380 No.

00:04:23.720 My family is Rosenberg's by way of Mexico.

00:04:28.020 And then they went to LA?

00:04:29.860 No, my dad is the only one that left Mexico.

00:04:33.100 Oh.

00:04:33.540 He's the only one.

00:04:34.600 I mean, they're still in Mexico.

00:04:36.060 Oh, I see.

00:04:36.660 And they're actually like the mafia there in Mexico.

00:04:40.920 Oh, cool.

00:04:41.300 Wow, that's cool.

00:04:42.280 I mean, like my dad, my great uncle, whose name is Jacobo, Jacobo Zabludovsky.

00:04:48.380 Oh, that's their name.

00:04:49.420 Zabludovsky's, of course.

00:04:51.520 I forgot.

00:04:52.300 I shouldn't know their last name.

00:04:54.360 No, yeah, no.

00:04:55.540 Jacobo Zabludovsky was the main, it was the Larry King of Mexico for...

00:05:05.660 For the past 40 years.

00:05:10.300 Wow.

00:05:11.260 No, no, no.

00:05:11.900 I would say even before that.

00:05:13.160 He was up until...

00:05:14.160 He died about 15 years ago or 20 years ago.

00:05:19.040 And before that, he was like the only news anchorman in Mexico.

00:05:24.860 24 horas con Jacobo Zabludovsky.

00:05:27.900 They even had songs written about him by newer bands like Molotov that were just like...

00:05:35.660 Oh, man.

00:05:38.180 But yeah, so he was seen as part of like sort of like the propaganda arm of the old regime.

00:05:42.760 And so he...

00:05:45.120 So that's my great uncle.

00:05:47.780 And my other...

00:05:48.960 His brother was an architect in Mexico as well.

00:05:53.500 And did very well for himself.

00:05:56.120 Their kids are ambassadors now.

00:05:58.540 Like, I mean, they're like seriously like ambassadors around the world.

00:06:02.420 They have a lot of power.

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00:07:28.720 The new Golden Age of America.

00:07:32.160 My grandmother was the oldest of three siblings.

00:07:37.680 She wasn't very beautiful.

00:07:39.220 She was basically homely, but she basically felt like she needed to marry eventually.

00:07:46.340 And so she married late.

00:07:48.440 She married a Jewish guy that was an entrepreneur, a guy named Manuel Rosenberg.

00:07:57.100 And he was the first guy to bring TV sets to Mexico.

00:08:00.900 Wow.

00:08:01.440 I didn't know Jews ran the Mexican media too.

00:08:03.920 Dude, we run it everywhere.

00:08:04.900 I know.

00:08:05.300 I had no idea.

00:08:06.000 What do you...

00:08:06.960 Come on.

00:08:07.560 Come on.

00:08:07.980 We're going to speak French.

00:08:09.220 Frankly, here.

00:08:09.620 Come on.

00:08:10.200 Yes.

00:08:10.520 No, they're still in charge.

00:08:12.840 Everywhere.

00:08:13.980 I think wherever there's TV sets...

00:08:15.900 I think so, too.

00:08:17.980 I think so, too.

00:08:19.120 Wherever there's TV sets, wherever there's lawyers, wherever there's...

00:08:22.360 Come on.

00:08:23.720 Come on.

00:08:24.760 Wherever there's education, everybody, take off your glasses.

00:08:28.100 We're stomping on them.

00:08:29.440 It's year zero now.

00:08:30.820 Okay.

00:08:31.620 Okay.

00:08:31.860 Right?

00:08:32.480 Yeah, that's what it feels like.

00:08:33.880 Doesn't it?

00:08:34.920 It feels like...

00:08:36.220 God, it's so repressive.

00:08:38.680 It's so incredibly repressive, but yet they call themselves progressives.

00:08:44.300 It's just frightening.

00:08:45.120 It's all throwback to the Khmer Rouge.

00:08:49.460 It is.

00:08:49.920 Absolutely.

00:08:50.520 It's like they were just trailblazers.

00:08:53.600 They don't even have an original thought in their mind.

00:08:55.420 They're like, these guys did it right the entire time.

00:08:57.860 Now we just have to follow through with it.

00:09:00.100 What's the Khmer Rouge?

00:09:01.080 I'm sorry.

00:09:01.520 I don't...

00:09:02.020 The Khmer Rouge is the most Kami Kami of ever, but they kind of got it wrong, or I guess

00:09:09.120 they just didn't have the power to follow through with their vision.

00:09:12.600 But they had the idea of year zero, which is the most...

00:09:18.260 That's kind of what I think is going to be like the sort of like...

00:09:21.700 That's what I'm waiting for is being the sort of like the yard, the line in the sand,

00:09:25.500 like before the Antichrist, before the prophecy comes to play.

00:09:32.100 Because I do believe in it.

00:09:33.120 I do feel Christian, by the way.

00:09:35.080 I feel, you know, I feel that Jew really had something.

00:09:40.780 So, but like...

00:09:43.080 Because I think it's easy to see into the future if you just like think for two seconds.

00:09:48.480 I do too.

00:09:49.240 I think it's...

00:09:49.860 You can see what's coming, and you can basically just like call it out.

00:09:53.000 I think that's what John was doing.

00:09:55.120 I mean, like the...

00:09:56.180 He was just spelling it out.

00:09:57.960 And now it's like, yeah, we have to basically avoid having that fate.

00:10:02.940 But like, the reality is that like it's going there, and he's right.

00:10:08.900 And so it's like, okay, you know, if you were to like...

00:10:14.100 If you wanted to avoid the apocalypse or like the rapture or whatever, like, you know,

00:10:18.420 the seven signs of the Antichrist and the apocalypse.

00:10:22.000 If you don't want the Bible to be right, if you don't believe in it,

00:10:25.000 you should believe in it just to make sure that doesn't happen.

00:10:28.000 Instead, you have everybody basically like disavowing God,

00:10:31.400 just like they fucking spelled out in the fucking Bible.

00:10:34.580 It's like, you guys are just like the most...

00:10:37.920 You guys are not Christians, but you're totally making it come to pass.

00:10:41.740 Like when I meet atheists, I just think that like these are Christians that lost their faith.

00:10:46.000 That's all.

00:10:47.220 And they're just, you know, just pretend that you're Christian,

00:10:52.780 and then maybe it won't happen.

00:10:55.120 You know, it's like we're trying to keep the apocalypse at bay, you fucking assholes.

00:10:58.640 I know exactly what you mean.

00:11:01.400 You know, but anyway, but...

00:11:03.060 Because that's all like deep Judaism about unified mind.

00:11:07.660 And, you know, the last thing they're going to let us do is unify anybody.

00:11:11.680 I don't think unifying is the goal at all.

00:11:14.620 We're already...

00:11:15.320 You're already united.

00:11:16.820 We already have like anything that's like trying to like put the stuff,

00:11:20.100 the genie back in the bottle.

00:11:21.480 Like that to me is like science and stuff like that.

00:11:23.480 Like we're trying to discover like the origins of things.

00:11:26.520 It's like, dude, before the science even got there, dude, we were plenty...

00:11:31.000 We had it figured out.

00:11:32.340 Yeah.

00:11:32.500 We didn't even need the silence.

00:11:33.920 The science just started to like screw things up a little bit,

00:11:36.460 and then you have to keep on making new exceptions.

00:11:38.140 It's like the scientific method is just going to like...

00:11:40.480 It's not going to bring us to the unified field theory.

00:11:43.540 It's going to take us into like just multitudes.

00:11:48.200 It's just going to be like too many exceptions to the rules, you know?

00:11:50.920 It's like that's the one thing that keeps on happening is like we don't...

00:11:54.980 We can't get to any kind of fundamental truth.

00:11:57.360 I think the science thing, we milked it for a long time,

00:12:00.380 but now we know it's just a fucking complete just garbage.

00:12:06.040 I agree.

00:12:07.220 Nobody can fucking trust the science anymore.

00:12:08.900 If you trust the science, you're a fucking idiot.

00:12:11.700 So science has been proven to be the most feeble, unstrong thing.

00:12:17.640 And, you know, faith got promoted a few notches

00:12:22.080 because of the whole COVID fucking shit.

00:12:25.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:12:25.960 Like, I mean, like it's such a disaster.

00:12:28.940 Such a disaster how that could happen.

00:12:31.500 I will never trust...

00:12:32.700 I will never...

00:12:33.300 I was pro-vaccination.

00:12:37.060 I had friends that basically were like,

00:12:38.380 we're not vaccinating our kids growing up.

00:12:40.320 And I was just like, wow, you guys are fucking like out there, dude.

00:12:42.440 Like you guys are fucking crazy.

00:12:43.920 I mean, just...

00:12:44.660 I mean, I got vaccinated.

00:12:45.840 I don't have any problems.

00:12:48.020 Why don't you guys just...

00:12:49.740 Oh, Jenny McCarthy.

00:12:51.740 Okay, I got it.

00:12:52.540 Okay.

00:12:52.940 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

00:12:54.220 But now...

00:12:55.920 I just feel like I'm lucky that nothing happened to me.

00:12:58.860 I mean, the reality is that like,

00:13:01.240 you can't trust anything a doctor says.

00:13:03.100 You can't trust anything a...

00:13:05.460 Anything that comes out of the mouth of an expert.

00:13:08.340 Yeah, no shit.

00:13:09.000 Especially an expert.

00:13:09.600 Well, they're all bought and paid for.

00:13:11.540 Well, they're the people you don't trust.

00:13:13.660 Yeah.

00:13:13.940 Like, I trust a truck driver from fucking Wisconsin any day of the week.

00:13:19.620 I do too.

00:13:20.720 Any day of the week, I would trust a 13-year-old in Gaza over these fucking guys, dude.

00:13:27.260 Like, they're the worst people that ever existed.

00:13:29.200 The experts have lost their expertise to me.

00:13:34.700 No, they just showed who they are, which is, you know, mass murderers and serial killers.

00:13:40.200 But they don't even know that they are.

00:13:42.000 I really think that they're that stupid.

00:13:43.920 I really do.

00:13:45.220 Like, they haven't been reminded of that.

00:13:47.040 You think they don't know that they're mass murderers and serial killers?

00:13:50.680 Maybe in the dark recesses of their mind.

00:13:53.000 But they have so much cognitive dissonance that they just never get there.

00:13:56.340 I mean, they have like...

00:13:57.240 It's basically...

00:13:57.900 I don't think that people know how evil they are.

00:14:00.800 I think that people don't understand how evil works and they think that like it has to be like some sort of...

00:14:07.880 I think Devin and I were talking about this.

00:14:10.620 Like, there is something that every person goes through, I think, at a certain point in their life.

00:14:16.300 They're like...

00:14:17.240 It could be something completely innocent and innocuous.

00:14:19.820 But there's a point where they have to make a choice about something totally like irrelevant and like small.

00:14:25.840 But like, they end up choosing one over the other and it ends up basically being like a deal with the devil.

00:14:35.480 That's right.

00:14:35.980 They don't realize...

00:14:37.320 From then on, they're in darkness.

00:14:40.260 If they knew that like they had to make a choice, they're basically like...

00:14:45.440 It's like in their blind spot forever because they made that choice.

00:14:50.080 Otherwise, they are aware and conscious and they basically keep it in mind and know that there are choices that you have to make all the time that are basically like always testing you like that.

00:15:04.040 And so...

00:15:04.840 And I'm not saying that I'm perfect.

00:15:06.460 I'm not an angel.

00:15:07.760 I mean, I'm fucking from LA, dude.

00:15:10.040 I'm a fucking liberal.

00:15:11.500 I mean, I'm as liberal as I become a rock star.

00:15:13.500 But when I'm fucking like...

00:15:16.820 When I'm sane, you have to worry about it.

00:15:21.640 I've got so many excuses for why I'm the fuck up, you know?

00:15:24.760 Like, what excuse do you fucking pieces of shit have?

00:15:27.780 What does the whole sober living world with no herpes have to fucking say about anything?

00:15:35.360 That's what I'm saying.

00:15:36.300 That's what I'm saying.

00:15:36.940 I mean, like...

00:15:37.660 There's a title.

00:15:38.440 You guys have like lost the plot.

00:15:40.260 You guys...

00:15:40.500 There's nothing good about you guys.

00:15:41.740 You guys are unholy and unclean as far as I'm concerned.

00:15:45.300 So I will take...

00:15:46.280 I will...

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00:18:24.760 Because, well, here's why you got canceled.

00:18:27.380 One, this is my opinion after living through it myself.

00:18:30.260 Can I tell the truth?

00:18:30.880 How simple is that?

00:18:33.060 Well, it's because...

00:18:34.100 Even if it's bullshit.

00:18:35.140 Even if it's bullshit.

00:18:37.340 It's because you have vision, uniqueness, and talent.

00:18:43.000 Those are three things they can't stand.

00:18:46.500 And you also have integrity.

00:18:49.880 Four things they can't stand.

00:18:51.520 I was very much into having integrity.

00:18:53.320 I'm just doing what I was taught, you know?

00:18:56.240 I mean, weren't we just taught these things?

00:18:57.960 Weren't we taught, like, about, like, you know, like, the golden rule and stuff like that?

00:19:02.260 Wasn't that, like, important?

00:19:03.320 Like, wasn't that, like, a part of, like, school and stuff like that?

00:19:07.000 Like, I mean, like...

00:19:07.620 That's what I always thought when I was a kid.

00:19:10.360 Because, I mean, I believed all the stuff I heard from them saying in synagogue and stuff.

00:19:16.560 I thought it was...

00:19:18.560 I accepted it for being real, you know?

00:19:21.980 I thought...

00:19:22.500 My interpretation of my Hebrew school upbringing was, okay, Jews, in a nutshell, just think that they're special.

00:19:32.720 And they champion that aspect of themselves.

00:19:38.880 And so that's why they sort of encourage you to be special.

00:19:43.600 Because specialness is actually something that, like, gets rewarded somehow in the world.

00:19:48.280 And maybe that's where they're, you know, evil as fuck.

00:19:50.900 I mean, maybe that's the whole fucking thing.

00:19:53.360 Like, don't be special, guys.

00:19:55.080 That's Jewish.

00:19:56.020 Like, I mean, like, that's essentially what...

00:20:00.560 Like, I mean, how far back are we going to go here?

00:20:02.020 Like, what would...

00:20:03.000 But there is a point to it.

00:20:04.200 Like, I felt like the United States was one of these, like, places where if you stick out, if you're...

00:20:11.480 Even if it's...

00:20:12.740 If you're abnormal in any way, if you're exceptional in any way, that could be exceptionally bad.

00:20:18.100 If I'm an exceptionally bad musician, I might even be able to have an audience for myself if I'm bad enough.

00:20:25.100 Yeah, like Tiny Tim.

00:20:27.480 He's great!

00:20:28.760 Come on, come on, come on.

00:20:29.620 He's actually a real talent.

00:20:30.920 Madonna, you're thinking of.

00:20:32.120 Yes!

00:20:32.660 Even Madonna.

00:20:33.600 What I'm saying is, like, I mean, like, anybody's got...

00:20:35.960 It's like, anybody could do it.

00:20:38.020 Well, my worst, Selena Gomez.

00:20:40.740 I'm saying, I'm saying, if...

00:20:42.820 Give somebody enough time, it's like the 10,000 hour rule, right?

00:20:45.580 I mean, like...

00:20:46.320 Yeah.

00:20:46.680 You do something for long enough, and you basically will do...

00:20:50.260 Will be...

00:20:52.660 Nobody else will be able to do it.

00:20:54.700 You'll be the only person on the planet that can do that.

00:20:58.600 And so if you spend, like, four years...

00:21:00.700 Even just four years carving out, like, a little, like...

00:21:03.900 Just learning how to play bass guitar, learning how to record, and...

00:21:06.660 You can...

00:21:07.500 Even if you don't know those things...

00:21:09.340 If you, like...

00:21:09.920 If you do it for eight years without a record deal,

00:21:14.700 you're just gonna, like, have, like, some weird...

00:21:17.140 Kind of, like...

00:21:17.700 Like, you're gonna be an expert at whatever it is that you're doing.

00:21:21.000 You don't get that you have to work at something for a long period of time.

00:21:23.220 You have to master something, man.

00:21:24.740 You have to master something.

00:21:26.320 You have to master something.

00:21:26.340 You have to 10,000...

00:21:27.320 The 10,000 hour rule, I think, really, is really good,

00:21:29.380 because what it evens out to...

00:21:30.560 What it equals out to is...

00:21:31.700 I did the math.

00:21:33.080 10 years, isn't it?

00:21:33.940 No, it's...

00:21:35.000 It's four years.

00:21:37.100 Oh.

00:21:37.600 Wow.

00:21:38.120 Eight...

00:21:38.800 Without sleep.

00:21:39.300 From nine to five.

00:21:40.580 Okay.

00:21:41.400 Five days a week.

00:21:42.380 Oh.

00:21:42.920 I thought it was longer.

00:21:43.360 Which makes sense, because...

00:21:45.000 I can do that.

00:21:45.580 Ford...

00:21:45.980 Yeah.

00:21:46.260 It's not that much.

00:21:47.420 It's not that much.

00:21:48.100 That's why you get, like...

00:21:49.120 Well, it's a full-time job, though.

00:21:50.620 But stay at Starbucks for four years,

00:21:54.240 and you will be the absolute...

00:21:55.900 You would consider yourself an expert at how Starbucks works.

00:22:00.320 A barista.

00:22:00.820 And you could probably even start to get retirement benefits after that.

00:22:07.120 So I think that, like, people, like, have such a short-term view of things.

00:22:13.120 Well, they want instant gratification.

00:22:15.380 And I have been an expert at what I'm doing since I was 10 years old.

00:22:18.860 So I'm well past...

00:22:20.460 So you wrote your first song when you were 10?

00:22:23.180 Yes.

00:22:24.020 Yes, that I can remember.

00:22:24.920 But before that, you must have, like, really been coming up with some melodies.

00:22:27.800 It was just primordial stew.

00:22:29.060 It was just, like, parts and stuff, like, swimming in my head and songs that I've heard.

00:22:33.260 Did you just find yourself, like, waking up and going...

00:22:36.540 Or singing or something?

00:22:38.400 No, it was more like I was, like, walking in a circle,

00:22:40.340 singing, like, the theme to Battlestar Galactica and E.T. and stuff like that

00:22:46.940 and talking to myself.

00:22:47.940 And then my parents were like, oh, look at him.

00:22:50.020 But I didn't get any acknowledgement for being a musical mind

00:22:54.740 until I was an adult.

00:22:57.620 Until well after...

00:22:59.140 I was good at rendering when I was younger.

00:23:01.420 So I did feel special in that sense.

00:23:03.280 So I was always encouraged to draw.

00:23:09.100 So that's what I was...

00:23:10.180 My parents saw that.

00:23:12.240 Well, when you first wrote this song when you were 10...

00:23:16.400 What?

00:23:16.980 That's his ashtray if he wants to smoke.

00:23:18.520 I don't know if he knew that.

00:23:19.580 Okay, so you first wrote this...

00:23:20.960 You wrote your first song when you were 10.

00:23:24.380 Yes.

00:23:24.880 And did you play the instruments in it or just write the lyrics and...

00:23:29.280 No, I didn't know any instruments.

00:23:31.260 But it was just in your head?

00:23:32.660 Yeah, it was like in the mold of what I was hearing on the radio.

00:23:36.860 So it was current with that time period.

00:23:40.120 So do you think that it was like...

00:23:41.980 Because I think this about my joke sometimes.

00:23:44.620 That I just take in...

00:23:45.820 I take in a lot of information

00:23:48.160 and then it sifts down and I craft it so that it's mine.

00:23:54.820 I never knew you had jokes.

00:23:56.160 I thought you were just like fully just off the cuff.

00:24:00.580 I thought that you were just being yourself.

00:24:02.280 I never thought that there was any kind of a craft to it.

00:24:05.020 But no, I know that what you're saying is true, obviously.

00:24:08.140 Stand-up routine.

00:24:08.860 Of course, you have to have jokes.

00:24:10.200 I'm just saying you've always...

00:24:12.180 But it's like this big funnel

00:24:13.600 and then it goes through this process in my mind

00:24:17.120 and it comes out like I crunched it all up

00:24:20.600 and it comes out...

00:24:22.180 Yeah.

00:24:22.320 All that information comes into a one-liner.

00:24:24.860 I see it as being a vessel.

00:24:27.220 Yeah, I do too.

00:24:28.060 Being a channel for basically for whatever it is that's creative.

00:24:33.020 Yeah.

00:24:33.120 And I think that that's what it is.

00:24:34.560 It's like...

00:24:36.280 And I hate to use the word artist

00:24:38.060 because I hate anybody that thinks of themselves as an artist.

00:24:40.380 Me too.

00:24:40.900 But I think that like artists are vulnerable because of that.

00:24:47.640 Like they are channels

00:24:50.740 and they're like a light

00:24:54.240 and everybody is attracted to them.

00:24:57.000 And so when they basically shine

00:24:59.160 and they do something that's like, you know, illuminates

00:25:01.120 and they do their thing,

00:25:02.820 it makes them extremely vulnerable to other spirits.

00:25:06.560 Other spirits come in with their intentions

00:25:08.200 and they swoop in

00:25:09.340 and they want to merge and meddle with the light.

00:25:13.720 Yeah, they want to master that.

00:25:14.500 And so they want to like actually kind of intervene

00:25:16.340 and they want to cop a feel of it.

00:25:18.820 But they also want to like sort of like...

00:25:20.440 They want to like...

00:25:21.400 They want to assuage their ego and that kind of stuff.

00:25:24.900 Like they want to like basically like make themselves a part of it

00:25:28.060 even though like they have no business even meddling with it, right?

00:25:31.140 Right.

00:25:31.420 So artists who basically depend on encouragement

00:25:37.780 especially early on to like sort of like get them from A to B

00:25:42.180 to even get them to continue to do it.

00:25:44.260 I mean my parents told me I was an artist at three years old

00:25:46.180 and I believed them.

00:25:46.820 It's like a gullible.

00:25:47.820 And then I just kept on doing it.

00:25:49.080 You know, so it's the first thing my parents ever fucking said to me.

00:25:51.660 Like, oh my God, he's a Picasso.

00:25:53.040 And I was just like...

00:25:54.180 And I got better.

00:25:55.560 You know, like I actually got really good

00:25:57.520 because I believed it.

00:25:59.040 But like if I hadn't believed it,

00:26:02.500 the bullshit of me being Picasso,

00:26:05.640 I probably wouldn't.

00:26:06.620 I probably wouldn't.

00:26:07.180 If I would have...

00:26:07.640 They would have been like,

00:26:08.860 don't quit your day job, Ariel.

00:26:10.520 Just be a three-year-old or just ignore it.

00:26:13.520 I probably wouldn't be an artist today.

00:26:15.920 But I was raised to think that.

00:26:17.880 I believed the first compliment they ever gave me

00:26:20.260 and that's where I stayed.

00:26:21.640 Because everybody can be an artist by three years old.

00:26:24.440 And everybody is an artist at three years old.

00:26:26.040 Yeah, they are.

00:26:26.880 Everybody's a genius at five years old.

00:26:29.280 And then the rest of their life,

00:26:30.500 they just basically like lose that creativity.

00:26:32.740 That's true.

00:26:33.400 And they try to find...

00:26:34.360 They try to call themselves artists

00:26:35.680 because they can never really...

00:26:38.320 They can't...

00:26:38.940 They feel like they don't have that creativity.

00:26:41.500 It's like they have to like have like the title of artist.

00:26:45.760 And I just think that like artists are vulnerable

00:26:48.100 because they spend their whole life, you know,

00:26:52.360 being accepted or encouraged by others,

00:26:55.460 you know, other people's opinions about what they do

00:26:57.220 sort of like informs their life path.

00:27:01.960 Yeah, it does.

00:27:02.780 It's important.

00:27:02.980 And if they don't...

00:27:03.520 And if they're not like productive,

00:27:05.360 then they feel like they are not an artist.

00:27:07.920 And then they commit suicide.

00:27:09.720 So they will commit...

00:27:11.060 They will...

00:27:11.420 So it's not even like therapy for them either.

00:27:13.300 Like art should be therapy, right?

00:27:15.980 Some sort of like...

00:27:17.560 But if something's therapy,

00:27:18.820 it should be purged

00:27:20.000 and you don't have to do it anymore.

00:27:21.400 So it's not therapy.

00:27:23.320 It's just like a Twitter addiction.

00:27:24.920 It's basically like...

00:27:26.260 You're basically just like...

00:27:27.360 You're just feeding a...

00:27:28.280 Yes.

00:27:29.040 And so when people call themselves artists

00:27:31.540 and they fucking...

00:27:32.400 They praise that...

00:27:36.460 They're going down a slippery slope, I think, too.

00:27:39.140 And I think that...

00:27:39.860 My job as an artist when I was younger,

00:27:42.540 it was to...

00:27:44.560 Like any compliments I got,

00:27:48.220 can't listen to those,

00:27:49.220 can't listen to anybody.

00:27:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:50.780 You can't listen to anybody

00:27:51.960 that likes your shit.

00:27:53.260 Uh-huh.

00:27:53.520 That those people are going to ruin you.

00:27:55.820 I knew that, too.

00:27:56.840 They have nothing to do with what you're...

00:27:58.780 They're just going to inflate the wrong part of you.

00:28:00.800 You're just going to get the wrong idea.

00:28:02.420 And then the haters,

00:28:03.640 you can't listen to them either

00:28:04.980 because obviously they're haters

00:28:07.180 and you don't want to...

00:28:08.160 I don't want to listen to anybody that's criticized.

00:28:10.380 I hate criticism, so I just...

00:28:12.240 I do, too.

00:28:12.860 I think that...

00:28:13.780 So my job as an artist

00:28:14.800 was to block everybody out

00:28:17.360 and never let anybody in.

00:28:20.300 I agree.

00:28:20.920 Because I had...

00:28:22.020 I do feel like I have something.

00:28:24.700 It's just my intuition

00:28:26.240 and my sense of something.

00:28:28.980 And that...

00:28:29.600 And I've had that for a long time.

00:28:31.160 Well, you just want to be true to it.

00:28:33.360 Yeah.

00:28:33.660 No, like I'm trying to keep my five-year-old alive.

00:28:35.980 Yeah.

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00:30:30.180 Yeah, you should not put that to bed.

00:30:32.560 Well, I mean, kind of.

00:30:33.660 I should a little bit.

00:30:34.860 Well, you mean because you keep getting in trouble?

00:30:38.200 Because it's precious.

00:30:42.180 It's too precious.

00:30:43.220 It's something that most people get over

00:30:45.760 and they can move on.

00:30:49.280 I remain.

00:30:51.800 That's how I see it.

00:30:52.740 Like, I'm one of those,

00:30:54.680 like, people are like,

00:30:55.620 Ariel, you can always reinvent yourself

00:30:57.360 and you can do,

00:30:58.320 you're like, you know,

00:30:59.000 you've got that leverage,

00:31:00.600 you can always do that.

00:31:01.840 I'm like, dude, no, man.

00:31:03.680 I will remain.

00:31:06.300 I will withstand the sands of time

00:31:08.220 that are whipping through me

00:31:10.200 and nature is, like, you know,

00:31:14.980 dissolving me every second

00:31:16.560 and turning me into dust.

00:31:20.780 But I will stand firm

00:31:22.680 because I have spirit

00:31:23.800 and all this kind of stuff.

00:31:25.100 Like, that's what I think

00:31:26.420 is what makes me human.

00:31:28.320 That's what I worship.

00:31:29.280 I don't worship nature,

00:31:31.800 which is, yeah,

00:31:32.800 change is inevitable.

00:31:33.980 That's not why you worship it.

00:31:36.060 You don't worship nature.

00:31:37.520 That's just fucking,

00:31:38.320 that'll just get you,

00:31:38.940 it's like, don't worship,

00:31:41.160 don't worship fucking

00:31:42.480 the beast of the universe.

00:31:45.960 Fucking, like, that's,

00:31:46.780 that's fucking terrible.

00:31:48.280 Like, you, humanity is,

00:31:49.880 what makes us special

00:31:50.740 is that we can do

00:31:51.360 the impossible things.

00:31:52.460 Like, stand still

00:31:53.380 and stop time

00:31:54.460 and fucking withstand

00:31:55.600 fucking all the fucking forces

00:31:58.740 that are against us.

00:31:59.840 Like, that's what,

00:32:00.580 we can dream of the impossible.

00:32:02.220 We can, we can stand

00:32:03.460 still and upright.

00:32:05.200 That's what I think is, like,

00:32:06.900 what faith is about.

00:32:08.320 Like, I don't,

00:32:08.680 I don't think that, like,

00:32:09.720 I feel like we can conquer death

00:32:11.680 if we fucking will it

00:32:13.140 into existence.

00:32:14.000 I do too.

00:32:14.700 That's what I say.

00:32:16.020 When people are on the same track

00:32:18.060 and have unity of mind

00:32:19.380 and purpose,

00:32:20.280 it changes the world.

00:32:21.780 We can get rid of anything.

00:32:23.580 We can get rid of anything bad.

00:32:24.820 That's obviously true

00:32:25.620 because our world

00:32:26.360 is a world of fucking ghosts anyway.

00:32:28.140 Like, it's like,

00:32:28.860 it's like completely not real.

00:32:30.980 So it may as well be something.

00:32:31.880 What do you mean by that?

00:32:32.380 I mean, like,

00:32:33.240 we're not like,

00:32:33.880 we're not scientists

00:32:35.080 and we're not basically

00:32:35.900 practical creatures.

00:32:36.960 We're completely full of shit.

00:32:40.060 We're inundated with bullshit.

00:32:42.240 We know, I mean,

00:32:43.020 the words we use are completely...

00:32:44.660 I always say we're bullshit addicts.

00:32:46.900 Yeah, that's what we are.

00:32:48.580 I read this book that, like,

00:32:50.060 said that we're basically like,

00:32:53.460 it was called

00:32:54.100 The Conspiracy Against the Human Races

00:32:55.560 by Thomas Ligali.

00:32:56.760 And he was talking about

00:33:00.220 this one philosopher,

00:33:02.060 this really dark philosopher,

00:33:04.100 humorously dark philosopher

00:33:06.560 called Peter Wessel Zapf.

00:33:08.620 He's like a Norwegian guy.

00:33:10.100 And he wrote a paper

00:33:12.860 called The Last Messiah

00:33:13.780 and it was...

00:33:15.440 But his...

00:33:17.240 He wrote a book called

00:33:18.320 On the Tragic

00:33:19.100 that was basically about

00:33:20.120 how humans...

00:33:24.260 Consciousness and reason

00:33:25.940 is this husk

00:33:29.820 that grew its advantage.

00:33:32.440 Like, you know,

00:33:32.700 its evolutionary advantage.

00:33:35.480 And it's like, you know,

00:33:36.020 like it worked for us briefly

00:33:37.880 in our way in the past

00:33:40.520 because we could

00:33:42.000 use abstract thinking

00:33:43.860 and basically like, you know,

00:33:45.260 outsmart,

00:33:46.840 get to know the environment,

00:33:48.180 think ahead,

00:33:50.400 see food at the end

00:33:51.860 of the footsteps,

00:33:52.740 you know, like, I mean,

00:33:53.240 so we basically weren't able

00:33:54.840 able to make these leaps

00:33:56.800 of thought

00:33:58.720 and language comes from that

00:34:00.800 and that kind of stuff

00:34:01.460 and that gave us

00:34:02.260 an absurd advantage

00:34:03.920 but it's outstayed,

00:34:05.260 it's welcome.

00:34:05.700 It's kind of like

00:34:06.240 a deer

00:34:07.180 whose antlers

00:34:09.660 have grown too big

00:34:10.840 and is basically

00:34:11.660 pinning it to the ground.

00:34:12.780 and it basically now

00:34:14.140 it's inconvenient

00:34:15.780 that

00:34:17.140 we have this thing

00:34:19.820 called the mind

00:34:20.480 and it's basically

00:34:21.360 just like,

00:34:22.140 like death is like

00:34:22.960 the sort of like

00:34:23.480 the reality thing

00:34:24.920 that we just can't get over.

00:34:26.300 It's like,

00:34:26.580 it's like,

00:34:26.900 it's like all that advantage

00:34:28.940 just led us to this point

00:34:30.140 where like,

00:34:30.740 we all know we're gonna die.

00:34:32.340 Oh, fuck.

00:34:33.400 Okay, so what do we do

00:34:34.160 with the rest of our

00:34:34.760 fucking time here?

00:34:35.600 Like, I mean, like,

00:34:36.020 we just distract ourselves?

00:34:37.960 Should we not think?

00:34:39.380 We can't,

00:34:39.860 we're like lost.

00:34:40.800 We just have no way

00:34:42.420 to basically solve

00:34:43.460 this conundrum

00:34:44.240 and it's basically

00:34:46.680 like an inconvenient thing

00:34:48.660 that's imposed on us

00:34:50.220 that we have no way

00:34:51.000 of escaping.

00:34:51.640 What, death?

00:34:52.900 Or language.

00:34:53.740 Like, we can't like,

00:34:54.340 we can't like go back

00:34:55.360 to like not knowing

00:34:57.120 what words mean.

00:34:58.460 Like, you know,

00:34:58.800 remember what that felt like

00:35:00.200 or what we were thinking

00:35:00.980 about at that point?

00:35:02.180 Barry Gordy Jr.

00:35:03.240 before words,

00:35:04.060 remember his whole book

00:35:04.840 was about that.

00:35:05.780 Yeah, I mean,

00:35:06.200 it's like,

00:35:07.020 we had emotions.

00:35:07.880 I remember some visuals

00:35:09.600 but I don't remember

00:35:10.220 what like,

00:35:11.500 what supplanted

00:35:12.940 the idea of war

00:35:14.100 for instance,

00:35:14.880 you know what I mean?

00:35:15.660 The word war

00:35:16.940 is a stand-in

00:35:19.060 for this thought,

00:35:21.300 for this spook, right?

00:35:22.380 Like, for this idea

00:35:23.960 and like all of the words

00:35:27.040 are given to us

00:35:28.320 from the outside

00:35:29.220 and we're not born with them.

00:35:30.520 They're made by men

00:35:31.680 sometime,

00:35:33.040 a long time ago

00:35:33.660 and we just,

00:35:35.320 we're just vessels

00:35:36.300 to keep those words alive.

00:35:38.360 There's just like spirit,

00:35:39.140 there's like invocations

00:35:40.080 there's just spells

00:35:41.940 that we repeat

00:35:42.580 over and over again.

00:35:43.460 We just say the words

00:35:44.200 and the thought forms

00:35:44.940 come up

00:35:45.300 and we fucking,

00:35:46.440 they're like,

00:35:46.960 they're like,

00:35:47.340 they're like deities.

00:35:50.400 Yeah.

00:35:51.000 And we're invoking them,

00:35:53.140 we're spelling them

00:35:53.900 into fucking existence

00:35:54.860 every time we fucking say them.

00:35:56.500 I agree.

00:35:57.100 And there's even like little angels

00:35:59.060 and demon helpers

00:36:00.060 that like,

00:36:00.440 with the smaller words

00:36:01.180 like and and the

00:36:02.120 and I,

00:36:02.480 like,

00:36:02.960 they help get all the

00:36:04.820 bigger deities together

00:36:06.640 to create these fucking

00:36:07.780 complex spells.

00:36:09.820 Spells.

00:36:10.740 Spells.

00:36:11.640 And so we're like,

00:36:13.060 basically like,

00:36:13.880 Words are definitely spells.

00:36:15.960 Yes.

00:36:16.840 Yeah.

00:36:17.080 They're prayers too.

00:36:17.960 Yeah.

00:36:18.240 Yeah.

00:36:18.460 They're the same thing though,

00:36:19.740 in a sense.

00:36:20.740 Yeah.

00:36:20.960 It's,

00:36:21.400 we say them with intention.

00:36:22.600 They're not the same thing.

00:36:24.100 Well,

00:36:24.380 well,

00:36:24.600 one of them is,

00:36:25.420 we're humble in one,

00:36:27.320 but in another,

00:36:28.280 in another we're.

00:36:29.200 One we ask,

00:36:30.140 one we tell.

00:36:32.000 Well,

00:36:32.300 we're all,

00:36:32.720 we're always,

00:36:33.580 we're always invoking

00:36:34.760 and they're deities.

00:36:36.440 We say them by their name,

00:36:37.360 right?

00:36:37.540 We say the words.

00:36:39.100 We just say their name

00:36:39.980 three times in the fucking

00:36:41.040 bathroom or wherever,

00:36:42.180 like in the darkness

00:36:42.860 and we basically conjure them

00:36:44.840 into existence.

00:36:46.840 In our mind.

00:36:48.940 No,

00:36:49.240 but in the world too.

00:36:50.260 Yeah,

00:36:50.460 no,

00:36:50.620 that's the whole point.

00:36:51.740 Actual manifestation.

00:36:52.340 That's,

00:36:52.820 that's what it does,

00:36:53.980 man.

00:36:54.080 That's what's so scary about it.

00:36:55.760 I mean,

00:36:56.240 I think that like,

00:36:56.720 we're like,

00:36:57.180 we're,

00:36:57.560 we're,

00:36:57.820 we're,

00:36:57.880 we're cursed.

00:36:58.600 We're,

00:36:58.700 we're absolutely cursed.

00:37:00.240 That's how I think about it.

00:37:01.800 But I think that there's like,

00:37:02.920 what's cool about it is that like,

00:37:06.220 humans are so stupid.

00:37:07.840 Yeah.

00:37:08.240 That like,

00:37:08.740 we will never,

00:37:10.220 there's never been a human evil enough

00:37:12.940 or smart enough

00:37:14.100 to end civilization

00:37:16.920 as we know it,

00:37:18.640 to stop it.

00:37:19.360 Like they can kill like a bunch of people.

00:37:21.440 Yeah.

00:37:21.560 But they've never figured out how,

00:37:23.840 there's never been anybody evil

00:37:25.100 or smart enough,

00:37:26.020 devious enough,

00:37:26.480 devious enough to figure out

00:37:28.180 how to basically end the whole thing

00:37:29.900 in one fell swoop.

00:37:32.080 Why do you think somebody should?

00:37:34.000 I'm,

00:37:34.220 I'm surprised somebody hasn't

00:37:35.580 is what I'm saying.

00:37:35.980 Yeah.

00:37:36.320 I mean,

00:37:36.500 I'm saying like,

00:37:37.260 like,

00:37:37.600 like,

00:37:37.780 like where the intention is.

00:37:39.740 Yeah.

00:37:40.100 There should be,

00:37:40.860 I mean,

00:37:41.020 I'm sure that there's come,

00:37:42.160 there's,

00:37:42.720 there's gotta be some megalomaniacs

00:37:44.840 out there that like,

00:37:45.800 it just,

00:37:46.100 if only they had the power

00:37:48.580 at their disposal,

00:37:49.320 they would do it.

00:37:50.340 Klaus Schwab.

00:37:51.440 Yes.

00:37:51.980 But they,

00:37:52.540 but they still don't have the power.

00:37:54.060 They can only do it.

00:37:55.100 They can only get rid of.

00:37:56.660 They're not smart enough.

00:37:57.460 And then,

00:37:57.760 and then,

00:37:58.120 and then it comes back in,

00:37:59.440 in full form.

00:38:00.020 Only the good people survive.

00:38:01.420 You know,

00:38:01.700 there's,

00:38:02.260 there's like,

00:38:02.960 the point is,

00:38:03.800 is that like humanity is blessed

00:38:05.960 because it cannot,

00:38:07.820 it can't get in its own way.

00:38:08.880 The devil is the,

00:38:09.760 like,

00:38:09.920 like,

00:38:10.080 like the,

00:38:10.600 the realm of,

00:38:12.020 of earth.

00:38:13.020 And humans are terrible,

00:38:15.120 but,

00:38:15.760 but,

00:38:16.940 we'll never be able to get in God's way

00:38:20.040 and stop the whole thing.

00:38:20.880 We start over when we're born.

00:38:22.580 It's a new chance every single time

00:38:24.760 you have kids.

00:38:25.300 So,

00:38:25.760 so like,

00:38:26.360 so then now they're trying to basically like,

00:38:27.660 just like make us extinct by like,

00:38:29.880 you know,

00:38:30.120 willful,

00:38:30.720 you know,

00:38:31.320 like sterilization,

00:38:32.880 but have us basically think that it's overpopulated,

00:38:35.280 you know,

00:38:35.600 get in our brains and basically think that like,

00:38:37.600 life would be better without children.

00:38:38.940 Only the bad people will be stopped from having children.

00:38:42.760 There's plenty of people that are having children

00:38:44.460 in the,

00:38:45.360 in the East that are poor.

00:38:47.120 The more poor you are,

00:38:48.460 the more children you should have.

00:38:50.320 Okay.

00:38:50.760 It's the opposite.

00:38:51.760 It,

00:38:52.260 it,

00:38:52.620 it,

00:38:52.700 it,

00:38:52.720 it,

00:38:52.740 it,

00:38:52.760 it,

00:38:52.780 it,

00:38:52.800 intelligence is not that intelligence.

00:38:54.480 It's just got,

00:38:54.920 it's just,

00:38:55.340 it's like short term.

00:38:56.960 It doesn't think beyond this life.

00:38:58.500 It's like,

00:38:59.060 I would be gay if I was like a really smart person.

00:39:02.960 Why?

00:39:04.100 Because I would be able to like live a happy life in the States

00:39:07.620 being in that's,

00:39:10.240 it,

00:39:10.340 it would,

00:39:10.720 it would make sense.

00:39:11.680 Right now.

00:39:12.360 It would make sense.

00:39:13.000 I wouldn't,

00:39:13.260 I wouldn't have to like worry about,

00:39:16.340 about,

00:39:17.080 about divorcing.

00:39:19.020 Well,

00:39:19.420 if you're gay and married,

00:39:20.780 you would.

00:39:21.280 Yeah.

00:39:21.660 If I'm gay and married,

00:39:22.440 who gets gay and married?

00:39:23.840 I mean,

00:39:23.980 there's a lot of people.

00:39:25.360 Well,

00:39:25.520 okay.

00:39:25.720 Well,

00:39:25.880 well,

00:39:26.040 somebody's got money and the other person doesn't.

00:39:28.140 Maybe that's,

00:39:29.220 but the point is,

00:39:29.900 is that like men cannot have kids.

00:39:32.840 Okay.

00:39:33.440 Like men,

00:39:33.980 men are not,

00:39:35.100 they,

00:39:35.660 women have kids.

00:39:36.980 Men can think that they have kids.

00:39:39.180 The closest I'll ever have,

00:39:41.080 the closest I'll ever come to having a kid is getting a phone call from

00:39:45.700 somebody telling me that I'm a father.

00:39:48.420 Yeah.

00:39:48.980 And I'll believe them because I just can't have a kid personally.

00:39:53.920 I mean,

00:39:54.100 like I,

00:39:54.300 I like to believe that.

00:39:55.720 Well,

00:39:56.140 the only men that are having kids are women pretending to be men.

00:40:01.300 exactly.

00:40:04.080 In other words,

00:40:04.860 in their mind.

00:40:05.840 Yeah.

00:40:06.360 Yeah.

00:40:06.600 That's it.

00:40:07.060 That's the only kids that are being born out of those people.

00:40:09.280 The rest of the world is just having kids.

00:40:11.160 Yeah.

00:40:11.380 Yeah.

00:40:11.720 And thank goodness they are because we don't need any of these other people.

00:40:15.960 Well,

00:40:16.660 you know,

00:40:17.360 they are like,

00:40:18.720 um,

00:40:19.240 created,

00:40:20.300 you know,

00:40:22.120 I think they're artificial intelligence and created by,

00:40:25.600 you know,

00:40:26.280 our owners,

00:40:27.520 the owners of the world.

00:40:29.200 And,

00:40:29.740 you know,

00:40:29.920 they needed to invent some,

00:40:32.040 uh,

00:40:33.700 new words for their delusions,

00:40:40.920 which are,

00:40:41.640 you know,

00:40:42.900 satanic and everything.

00:40:44.500 So they needed to get some new words in there so that they could,

00:40:48.760 in my opinion,

00:40:49.920 then they could yank the government to get,

00:40:53.200 you know,

00:40:53.580 in the taxpayers,

00:40:55.540 they just want money.

00:40:56.560 So they're in the taxpayers and they're passing laws that affect insurance companies and what they'll cover.

00:41:03.680 So the doctors are all in on it because of course they want to cut off a kid's wiener and tits,

00:41:09.300 you know,

00:41:10.220 certain doctors because insurance pays for it because of the laws passed by those people.

00:41:16.000 They must not have a lot of business happening.

00:41:17.760 They don't have a lot of business.

00:41:18.840 They're all full of bullshit and selling us bullshit,

00:41:21.060 but they affect legislation worldwide.

00:41:24.280 And that allows their cousin who's a doctor to bill the government for cutting kids' dicks off.

00:41:32.820 And they probably sell photos of it to porn things.

00:41:36.620 Well,

00:41:36.780 they have to keep it going.

00:41:37.940 You have to like constantly lubricate your,

00:41:39.780 your meatless dick sheath or whatever they give them now,

00:41:42.480 the vagina thing.

00:41:43.660 You have to keep that constantly lubricated and it's infected.

00:41:46.840 I don't think that's so doctor looks at this as like,

00:41:48.880 this isn't a patient from Monday to Tuesday.

00:41:51.920 No,

00:41:52.120 this is a lifelong patient that I can exploit from childhood to old days.

00:41:56.720 If somebody like stops by a clinic and like ask for the,

00:41:59.940 like,

00:42:00.140 is there a bathroom there?

00:42:01.260 They don't live past 40 because of all the drugs we inject and all the things we,

00:42:06.160 you know,

00:42:06.780 with our Nazi technology,

00:42:09.760 all the experiments we do on captive populations.

00:42:12.640 Largely Jewish by the way.

00:42:15.540 Yeah.

00:42:15.960 And you know,

00:42:16.920 we just love doing that.

00:42:18.320 And then,

00:42:19.100 you know,

00:42:19.660 we get paid for it because we're doctors.

00:42:22.840 Experts.

00:42:23.420 Do you,

00:42:23.620 do you,

00:42:24.000 do you think that like,

00:42:24.900 I see,

00:42:25.360 I have a sneaky suspicion that like.

00:42:27.500 So,

00:42:27.820 so high a percentage of trans kids are Jewish or from a.

00:42:33.980 I didn't know that.

00:42:34.640 That should fucking like,

00:42:35.600 that should tell them.

00:42:36.580 Or from a fatherless family with an obese mother.

00:42:41.040 Yeah.

00:42:41.280 Who's an ex-baptist.

00:42:42.780 You don't have to tell me that like trans people are Bolsheviks because I already know

00:42:45.480 this.

00:42:45.920 I mean.

00:42:46.280 No,

00:42:46.740 it's Bolshevism 101.

00:42:49.340 It's Marxism 101.

00:42:50.880 Who's also Jewish by the way.

00:42:52.680 Of course.

00:42:53.380 Well,

00:42:53.720 he said he wasn't.

00:42:55.360 Yeah,

00:42:55.600 he said he was,

00:42:56.100 but it's not a choice you make.

00:42:57.200 It's a,

00:42:57.460 it's a,

00:42:58.060 it's a.

00:42:58.280 No,

00:42:58.540 but it is a choice.

00:42:59.680 I disagree with that.

00:43:01.080 Okay.

00:43:01.340 So it's not a race.

00:43:02.560 Because like if you're a Jew,

00:43:03.840 such as myself,

00:43:05.580 a Jewy Jew Jew,

00:43:07.460 that everybody's terrified of,

00:43:09.920 because I actually practice Judaism like Jesus did.

00:43:14.880 But like,

00:43:15.680 I.

00:43:16.360 Now,

00:43:16.640 wait a minute.

00:43:17.900 They are terrified of it.

00:43:21.780 Well,

00:43:22.120 sleep.

00:43:22.680 Speaking of,

00:43:23.580 you know,

00:43:23.760 you must sleep like a baby with that burner.

00:43:25.780 There's.

00:43:25.940 Oh yeah,

00:43:26.380 the burner's right there.

00:43:27.640 How's that for a Segway?

00:43:29.020 Well.

00:43:29.400 Better than any husband,

00:43:30.260 I'll tell you that much.

00:43:31.720 Well,

00:43:31.960 speaking of sleep,

00:43:32.800 do you remember you had a mattress that we had in this house?

00:43:35.240 Yeah,

00:43:35.420 but we're down a new ad now.

00:43:36.560 Yeah.

00:43:37.220 And you were complaining.

00:43:38.320 I couldn't sleep because my back was aching because,

00:43:41.320 you know,

00:43:41.760 I was like sinking into it because I dug my nest.

00:43:45.040 Yeah,

00:43:45.260 you had a hole.

00:43:45.940 So what we did is we actually got contacted by a sponsor,

00:43:48.700 a potential sponsor.

00:43:49.480 They're like,

00:43:49.660 are you interested in Helix mattresses?

00:43:51.380 And we're like,

00:43:51.720 well,

00:43:51.820 what is it?

00:43:52.760 And we looked it up and checked this shit out.

00:43:54.460 And you know this is true.

00:43:56.660 You go in there,

00:43:58.040 you type in your body type,

00:43:59.860 your age,

00:44:00.580 your weight,

00:44:01.560 sleeping patterns,

00:44:02.820 everything.

00:44:03.600 You put it in this little algorithm

00:44:04.900 and it spits out the perfect mattress and then ships it to you.

00:44:08.920 And you,

00:44:09.480 I'll let you do the rest.

00:44:10.780 You know,

00:44:11.120 I've been feeling so refreshed when I wake up and I've got a lot of energy and I feel a lot better.

00:44:16.440 I don't have as many aches and pains in my shoulders and my hips as I did on other mattresses.

00:44:22.380 But it's just like,

00:44:23.820 it is so comfortable.

00:44:25.120 I can't even get over how great it is.

00:44:27.700 So go to helixsleep.com slash Roseanne for the March Madness sale.

00:44:34.580 20% off.

00:44:36.720 That's helixsleep.com forward slash Roseanne for the March Madness sale.

00:44:42.780 20% off.

00:44:44.140 And who knows,

00:44:44.860 whatever sleeping stuff you have,

00:44:46.180 you type this in,

00:44:47.040 you get it spit out,

00:44:47.740 the mattress shows up your door,

00:44:48.640 you might have the best night's sleep of your life.

00:44:50.620 I mean,

00:44:50.800 it is so comfortable.

00:44:51.800 I'm not even kidding.

00:44:52.680 I think it's the devil.

00:44:55.300 Yeah,

00:44:55.600 I know.

00:44:56.540 What I'm saying is like,

00:44:57.500 there's,

00:44:57.820 there's a lot of,

00:44:58.940 but,

00:44:59.120 but it's not up to Jews to,

00:45:01.000 to make a,

00:45:03.040 okay.

00:45:05.420 Is it just,

00:45:06.600 is it just a choice that a Jewish,

00:45:08.780 a Jew has to make to basically like not be Jewish in order to like.

00:45:12.700 It's like this.

00:45:13.620 You have this choice.

00:45:15.040 You are going to study and live in Torah.

00:45:19.920 And that makes you a Jew.

00:45:21.300 If you don't do that,

00:45:22.980 you're not a Jew.

00:45:24.420 Okay.

00:45:24.660 So that,

00:45:25.020 but then there's,

00:45:25.500 so there's no racial component to it at all.

00:45:27.580 No bloodline.

00:45:29.620 Uh,

00:45:30.100 in some cases there is because it's also a nation,

00:45:33.060 you know,

00:45:34.060 that was driven from its home by persecution for 2000.

00:45:37.120 Right.

00:45:37.480 But we have no way of like,

00:45:38.560 but we say that we're like basically like Jews by,

00:45:41.220 by blood,

00:45:42.080 despite the fact that.

00:45:43.220 If your mother was a Jew.

00:45:45.400 Right.

00:45:45.860 Which my mother wasn't,

00:45:46.880 but my last name is Rosenberg.

00:45:48.320 So people are going to think that I'm a Jew regardless.

00:45:50.900 The point is like,

00:45:51.880 that like that,

00:45:52.780 and that's not a coincidence either.

00:45:53.880 It's kind of like the trance thing all over again.

00:45:56.080 It's a conundrum.

00:45:57.420 It's,

00:45:57.640 I feel like,

00:45:58.120 I feel like Jews,

00:45:59.140 Jews have figured out a way to like not be Jewish.

00:46:02.780 Cause there's been so many incentives for Jews to not want to be Jewish at various points in history.

00:46:06.940 And all a woman would need to do in order to not be Jewish is marry a Johnson.

00:46:10.800 And then she would basically disappear as a Jew.

00:46:15.680 But like,

00:46:16.460 Well,

00:46:16.620 that's what my rabbi said.

00:46:17.980 He said,

00:46:18.840 you know,

00:46:19.260 all of history and all religions were started by Jewish discontents.

00:46:25.160 So then everybody's Jewish then by blood.

00:46:27.940 Kind of.

00:46:28.480 Yeah.

00:46:28.800 That's what,

00:46:29.180 that's,

00:46:29.480 that's what I think.

00:46:30.340 That's kind of,

00:46:31.160 kind of what I think.

00:46:31.820 That's what it is.

00:46:32.260 I think that like,

00:46:33.480 Because Jewish means one of the 12 tribes of Israel.

00:46:38.120 And I think that like,

00:46:39.280 I obviously don't think necessarily that everybody's like,

00:46:42.260 you know,

00:46:42.540 like that Jews have assimilated or like been like,

00:46:44.980 you know,

00:46:45.180 like they've gone everywhere,

00:46:46.920 but they haven't necessarily,

00:46:47.960 not everybody's necessarily Jewish.

00:46:49.100 Oh,

00:46:49.140 but we get around.

00:46:50.560 The Jewish woman gets around.

00:46:52.560 And she marries all kinds of guys.

00:46:54.800 And gets a half Jewish,

00:46:57.340 you know,

00:46:57.660 her kids are Jewish,

00:46:58.540 but they're influenced by their fathers,

00:47:00.900 largely not Jewish.

00:47:02.360 And they take in that culture too.

00:47:05.020 But I also think that like,

00:47:06.320 that like,

00:47:07.280 I kind of feel like,

00:47:09.220 like,

00:47:09.760 I kind of feel like,

00:47:13.120 what Jews worship is kind of like the history of the Jews more than any

00:47:19.600 God per se.

00:47:20.800 Like,

00:47:20.900 I,

00:47:21.060 I,

00:47:21.400 I,

00:47:21.540 no,

00:47:22.000 no,

00:47:22.200 no.

00:47:22.340 You think they have a spirituality?

00:47:23.780 I think they're pre-spiritual.

00:47:24.640 I think they're beyond spirituality.

00:47:26.520 I think that like,

00:47:27.560 that Jews are beyond,

00:47:29.320 I think like Jesus is the,

00:47:30.620 is the beginning of spirituality in,

00:47:32.820 in,

00:47:33.580 in Judaism.

00:47:34.600 No.

00:47:34.880 You might be thinking of American Jews,

00:47:36.360 maybe.

00:47:36.940 Well,

00:47:37.260 I'm,

00:47:37.440 I'm thinking of just like.

00:47:38.380 he's not the beginning of it.

00:47:39.760 He's the continuation of it.

00:47:41.340 Yeah.

00:47:41.680 He was a Jew.

00:47:42.040 But I,

00:47:42.380 but I,

00:47:42.700 I kind of feel like they were like,

00:47:44.060 like the Jews were the Pharisees,

00:47:45.860 the Babylonians,

00:47:46.660 all that kind of stuff had already,

00:47:48.580 had already like,

00:47:50.060 by the time Christ came,

00:47:51.600 came up.

00:47:52.980 That was already like,

00:47:54.160 like the Jews were already known as,

00:47:55.720 or the,

00:47:56.300 the,

00:47:56.660 the,

00:47:56.880 the Pharisees that,

00:47:57.940 the,

00:47:58.160 you know,

00:47:58.780 paying,

00:47:59.220 going to like,

00:47:59.940 you know,

00:48:00.120 paying tiths and going to the temple and all.

00:48:02.720 They,

00:48:02.940 they were already like a sort of like a,

00:48:04.320 the,

00:48:04.660 the,

00:48:05.080 the hierarchy.

00:48:06.020 They were like the,

00:48:06.720 the,

00:48:07.040 the,

00:48:07.720 the Gestapo on top of every,

00:48:10.160 of the Jews in general.

00:48:12.260 Well,

00:48:12.740 they were the ruling class.

00:48:14.120 They were the ruling,

00:48:14.920 they were the priest class.

00:48:15.720 So they were like,

00:48:16.260 but they were corrupt.

00:48:17.500 And so the,

00:48:17.980 the point is,

00:48:18.600 the point is that like,

00:48:19.700 like,

00:48:19.980 like that was,

00:48:21.380 those were all corrupt.

00:48:23.320 That was already corrupted by the time Jesus came up and he was bound to come up as a light,

00:48:30.820 as a basically as,

00:48:32.000 as,

00:48:32.380 because he was basically the rebelling against the impossible situation that was happening.

00:48:37.760 Well,

00:48:37.780 against Roman occupation.

00:48:39.320 Yes.

00:48:39.760 And,

00:48:40.120 and,

00:48:40.300 and that ended,

00:48:41.580 uh,

00:48:41.880 uh,

00:48:42.380 or in that,

00:48:43.320 but he wasn't against Romans.

00:48:45.660 He was against,

00:48:46.440 he was against the Jews.

00:48:47.280 He was against himself.

00:48:47.940 Okay.

00:48:48.340 No,

00:48:48.660 he was against Roman occupation and its colluders in the Jewish priest class.

00:48:55.640 Right.

00:48:55.960 Which,

00:48:56.140 which were like,

00:48:56.760 exactly,

00:48:57.220 which got like actual kind of like benefits.

00:48:59.260 Because that's.

00:48:59.840 They had benefits from,

00:49:00.760 from the Romans.

00:49:01.720 Well,

00:49:01.960 they would,

00:49:02.680 well,

00:49:03.100 they would,

00:49:03.860 well,

00:49:04.400 they entered into a thing that the priest class was passed down within families.

00:49:10.620 And,

00:49:11.200 you know,

00:49:11.640 you paid a lot,

00:49:12.420 they got paid a lot of money.

00:49:14.020 They were paid by the community.

00:49:15.840 So it was wealth within a family.

00:49:18.780 Right.

00:49:19.420 Within a family lineage,

00:49:21.020 you know,

00:49:21.680 a family bloodline,

00:49:22.940 I guess.

00:49:23.140 So,

00:49:23.500 so,

00:49:23.740 so I think that like,

00:49:24.600 so the spirituality aspect of Judaism that I think that like Christ was focusing in on was,

00:49:30.960 was already kind of like extinguished by that point in the general,

00:49:35.800 I think that like.

00:49:36.640 it wasn't extinguished.

00:49:37.800 Well,

00:49:37.940 he thought of it as being hypocritical and basically being corrupted.

00:49:41.460 No,

00:49:41.820 he was against.

00:49:42.380 No,

00:49:42.700 he didn't like corrupt temple.

00:49:43.860 No,

00:49:44.260 he was against the colluders who,

00:49:47.880 um,

00:49:49.200 what,

00:49:49.760 you know,

00:49:50.100 the colluders with Rome.

00:49:53.220 Right.

00:49:53.740 Which was the,

00:49:54.400 the,

00:49:54.660 which is why he overthrew.

00:49:56.020 The saints.

00:49:56.400 Huh?

00:49:56.620 The priests.

00:49:57.800 The Pharisees.

00:49:58.460 Yeah.

00:49:58.700 Yeah.

00:49:59.140 That's what I'm saying.

00:50:00.020 So what I'm saying is like,

00:50:00.880 but there's no other way to get to God unless you basically go to like temple and you basically have them be,

00:50:06.520 the,

00:50:06.780 the go between between you and the Lord.

00:50:09.460 it's just like the Pope.

00:50:10.700 Yeah.

00:50:11.060 They all,

00:50:11.420 but what I'm saying is,

00:50:12.120 is that like,

00:50:12.800 like I think that like he was,

00:50:15.360 Christ was,

00:50:16.260 was trying to,

00:50:17.700 was trying to like take that God that basically was reserved for the people that like he spoke to,

00:50:25.220 for instance,

00:50:26.220 like,

00:50:26.640 like God spoke to Moses and he spoke to him literally.

00:50:33.320 Yeah.

00:50:33.520 And,

00:50:33.780 and,

00:50:34.080 and Abraham he spoke to literally,

00:50:35.700 but then he stopped talking after him after that.

00:50:37.800 Okay.

00:50:38.180 Nobody,

00:50:38.500 nobody else ever had God talking to them.

00:50:41.680 No,

00:50:41.840 they did.

00:50:42.460 No,

00:50:42.600 we know.

00:50:42.880 Well,

00:50:43.040 but they were just talking to themselves.

00:50:44.940 I mean,

00:50:45.080 they were like,

00:50:45.500 they were crazy.

00:50:46.420 We don't know.

00:50:47.120 Well,

00:50:47.440 no,

00:50:47.680 everybody that fucking talks to God is fucking like,

00:50:49.660 you know,

00:50:49.860 here's God.

00:50:50.360 Right.

00:50:50.600 What I'm saying is like,

00:50:51.400 you can just say that.

00:50:52.280 The point is that like,

00:50:53.020 the point is,

00:50:53.680 is that like,

00:50:55.040 what Jews,

00:50:56.120 what Jews,

00:50:56.420 what Jews.

00:50:57.120 All the prophets spoke to God.

00:50:59.320 What,

00:50:59.500 what I'm saying is that like,

00:51:00.580 what we worship in Judaism is what we do is we read the Torah year round and we have a cycle.

00:51:07.520 The story of in the Torah is the,

00:51:11.940 the record of the Jews of different people across time getting spoke,

00:51:19.720 speaking to God and,

00:51:21.220 and,

00:51:21.560 and fucking it up with him.

00:51:23.680 What I'm saying is that like,

00:51:24.500 so,

00:51:24.760 so we,

00:51:25.160 we,

00:51:25.340 we,

00:51:25.720 and that gives us an edge.

00:51:26.920 It gives us an edge because we basically learn,

00:51:29.780 we,

00:51:29.940 we never,

00:51:31.060 we never,

00:51:31.640 we never forget how we run afoul of God.

00:51:35.800 Like the story of like,

00:51:37.640 of,

00:51:37.880 of how the Jews basically kept on pissing off God.

00:51:41.080 It's like Woody Allen.

00:51:42.040 It's like,

00:51:42.320 it's like,

00:51:42.520 like,

00:51:42.720 like,

00:51:42.860 like just with the cocaine.

00:51:44.180 It's like,

00:51:44.640 you know,

00:51:44.900 like we're Woody Allening it with,

00:51:46.400 with God every single step of the way.

00:51:48.100 And that's a kind of like,

00:51:49.140 there's a self hating kernel in Judaism that I think got like,

00:51:54.060 it got inherited by Christ.

00:51:55.600 And anybody that basically,

00:51:57.520 the,

00:51:57.760 anybody that we like influence,

00:52:00.120 anybody that like came from us,

00:52:02.340 they take that with them.

00:52:04.200 And there's this,

00:52:04.820 there's this,

00:52:05.180 there's a,

00:52:05.480 it's a healthy amount of self hate.

00:52:07.220 I may be,

00:52:07.760 I think,

00:52:08.080 I think that there's,

00:52:08.640 there's gotta be a healthy amount of,

00:52:10.860 of self reflection and doubt.

00:52:14.440 Self reflection isn't self hate.

00:52:16.800 Well,

00:52:17.160 I don't believe.

00:52:17.920 Lack of self reflection is self hate.

00:52:19.560 Well,

00:52:19.800 I don't think people should hate themselves,

00:52:21.340 but I'm saying people shouldn't love themselves either.

00:52:23.320 I mean,

00:52:23.520 that's,

00:52:23.820 that's,

00:52:24.180 I'm,

00:52:24.620 I'm okay with myself.

00:52:25.800 I mean,

00:52:25.920 I'm not,

00:52:26.360 I'm not,

00:52:26.880 I'm definitely not.

00:52:27.900 I don't love myself.

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00:53:56.160 But whatever that means,

00:53:57.140 it's very,

00:53:57.620 very,

00:53:58.080 people don't understand what that connection is.

00:54:00.900 And there's no way to teach that in a sense,

00:54:02.820 because it's very,

00:54:04.460 very subjective and we're talking in language.

00:54:07.960 So it's very,

00:54:09.060 it's just,

00:54:09.720 it's,

00:54:10.160 we have to,

00:54:10.440 we have to sift through all the spells.

00:54:12.140 I'm just saying that I think Christ was either like the best Jew or the worst Jew.

00:54:18.060 Either way,

00:54:18.580 it doesn't matter.

00:54:19.180 It's like,

00:54:19.480 it's like he's,

00:54:20.840 he's one in a long line of them.

00:54:23.320 Marx,

00:54:24.320 in his own way,

00:54:26.040 though he disavowed Judaism,

00:54:28.240 is a perfect Jew.

00:54:29.500 Because he fucking hates himself.

00:54:33.500 What am I saying?

00:54:34.200 What am I saying?

00:54:35.200 Okay,

00:54:35.560 okay,

00:54:35.980 I see what you're doing.

00:54:37.060 What am I saying?

00:54:37.340 That is the kernel that keeps on,

00:54:38.740 that we pass on with everybody.

00:54:41.020 And this is why the Christians hate themselves now too,

00:54:44.100 and why they want,

00:54:44.640 or why they're becoming atheists.

00:54:45.840 They self-fledgedly.

00:54:46.720 Because,

00:54:47.000 and this is why they also blame Jews too.

00:54:48.960 Yeah.

00:54:49.140 It's because,

00:54:49.440 because they see them as being like the,

00:54:51.460 the origin of their fall.

00:54:53.900 I think that's true.

00:54:54.720 And so,

00:54:55.520 so,

00:54:55.900 and that's because,

00:54:57.380 in a sense,

00:54:58.000 Christianity won.

00:55:00.380 Christianity took the story of the Jews,

00:55:02.840 and WikiLeaked it to everybody.

00:55:05.580 So now,

00:55:06.280 all of a sudden,

00:55:06.760 everybody could basically,

00:55:08.120 how do I become,

00:55:08.920 how do I enter the kingdom of God?

00:55:10.440 Oh,

00:55:10.760 it's easy.

00:55:11.740 You just,

00:55:12.300 you don't even have to sign anything.

00:55:13.460 Where do I sign?

00:55:14.120 No,

00:55:14.280 you don't have to sign anything.

00:55:15.100 You just have to accept Christ into your own,

00:55:16.660 you don't think that's going to spread like wild,

00:55:18.140 like,

00:55:18.280 like,

00:55:18.540 hotcakes.

00:55:19.480 That's the most successful,

00:55:21.620 fucking,

00:55:22.000 like,

00:55:22.400 a mail order campaign ever designed.

00:55:26.100 And you don't have to sign anywhere.

00:55:28.300 You just have to have,

00:55:29.440 your relationship with God is personal,

00:55:31.780 through Jesus,

00:55:32.920 from now on.

00:55:34.220 And,

00:55:34.520 and,

00:55:35.660 and,

00:55:36.560 it's almost a,

00:55:37.920 kind of like a complete Judaism,

00:55:39.560 in a sense,

00:55:40.040 because Judaism never really saw that far.

00:55:42.300 It just basically wanted,

00:55:43.380 the end goal of Judaism is to like,

00:55:45.140 the Messiah will come,

00:55:47.600 when we,

00:55:48.200 we'll be back in our homeland.

00:55:50.400 It's just basically like,

00:55:51.040 we'll be back in our fucking homeland eventually.

00:55:53.200 But that's,

00:55:53.560 that's a pretty,

00:55:54.400 that's a,

00:55:54.900 as far as like goals are concerned,

00:55:56.220 it's,

00:55:56.420 it's,

00:55:56.560 it's kind of like laughable nowadays.

00:55:58.680 It's like,

00:55:59.280 yeah,

00:55:59.400 you just go there,

00:56:00.080 dude,

00:56:00.240 just go.

00:56:00.940 It's like,

00:56:01.340 but,

00:56:01.500 but,

00:56:01.600 but at the time it seemed not like,

00:56:03.380 like,

00:56:03.580 like,

00:56:03.860 like very,

00:56:04.840 very ambitious.

00:56:06.100 But,

00:56:06.680 but Christ made it spiritual,

00:56:09.940 and made it about the afterlife,

00:56:13.000 and made it,

00:56:13.800 and made about,

00:56:14.440 made it about heaven,

00:56:16.200 and made it about people's,

00:56:17.900 people having a choice in their own,

00:56:20.640 in,

00:56:20.960 in,

00:56:21.280 in infinity,

00:56:22.240 in like,

00:56:22.600 in eternity.

00:56:23.300 Yeah.

00:56:23.900 And,

00:56:24.160 and that's what I mean by,

00:56:25.000 by spirituality.

00:56:26.300 That,

00:56:26.400 that Jews believe,

00:56:29.260 they worship life,

00:56:30.120 they don't worship death.

00:56:31.100 They,

00:56:31.260 they,

00:56:31.460 they are,

00:56:31.860 they're,

00:56:32.340 they,

00:56:32.620 they don't care about the death.

00:56:33.740 There's no,

00:56:34.100 there's no hell in our hell.

00:56:35.520 They're just like,

00:56:36.060 you're not even like included in the conversation if you fucking die.

00:56:39.380 That we worship life,

00:56:40.780 and,

00:56:41.800 and that's what we are focused on.

00:56:43.940 And there's,

00:56:44.600 there's a yin and yang to it.

00:56:46.220 Well,

00:56:46.540 some Jews do,

00:56:47.620 but some don't.

00:56:48.440 Well,

00:56:48.560 some of them are just terrible.

00:56:50.120 The atheists are fucking terrible.

00:56:51.460 Yeah,

00:56:51.940 but there's a deeper Judaism that,

00:56:54.860 you know,

00:56:55.380 unfortunately it's been squashed,

00:56:57.900 rewritten,

00:56:58.820 stolen,

00:56:59.600 culturally appropriated,

00:57:01.460 and,

00:57:01.880 uh,

00:57:02.860 reversed.

00:57:03.860 But there's still a real Judaism,

00:57:06.360 and,

00:57:07.180 um,

00:57:07.520 you know,

00:57:07.940 I think that we're on the verge of learning about it.

00:57:11.220 And it is,

00:57:12.340 after all,

00:57:12.780 what Jesus taught,

00:57:13.980 even though Rome tried to use propaganda,

00:57:17.060 the Roman propaganda to cover it up.

00:57:20.600 But it's being revealed right now.

00:57:23.760 So,

00:57:24.040 do you think that,

00:57:24.520 like,

00:57:24.660 the future is Jewish?

00:57:26.340 Like,

00:57:26.540 I mean,

00:57:26.720 like,

00:57:26.860 I mean,

00:57:27.060 is that,

00:57:27.580 is that what you're saying?

00:57:28.440 Or?

00:57:29.180 I,

00:57:29.520 I think the future is full awareness.

00:57:34.040 So,

00:57:34.560 it's kind of like,

00:57:35.480 it's kind of like,

00:57:37.920 it's,

00:57:38.260 it's,

00:57:38.560 but,

00:57:39.280 but where do the chosen people,

00:57:40.380 like,

00:57:40.660 sit,

00:57:40.920 like,

00:57:41.200 sit in that conversation?

00:57:43.400 Well,

00:57:44.220 chosen people mean so many things,

00:57:47.380 so many deep things,

00:57:49.180 because it's like,

00:57:51.000 of course,

00:57:52.340 they were,

00:57:52.980 you know,

00:57:54.120 the ones who accepted to take Torah,

00:57:57.720 to take the Torah.

00:57:59.520 The,

00:57:59.960 the,

00:58:00.180 the chosen.

00:58:01.280 Yeah.

00:58:01.660 They were chosen to take Torah to the world.

00:58:05.060 Well,

00:58:05.360 that's,

00:58:05.660 no,

00:58:05.780 that's Christianity.

00:58:07.100 That,

00:58:07.200 that,

00:58:07.380 that's,

00:58:07.660 Christianity are the ones who basically keep the Torah alive and have given it to everybody.

00:58:12.660 Nobody else would know about it.

00:58:13.960 Well,

00:58:14.420 it'd be a secret.

00:58:15.300 It probably wouldn't even be around if it weren't for Christians.

00:58:17.380 In some way,

00:58:18.380 no,

00:58:18.660 that's not true,

00:58:19.400 but,

00:58:19.600 in some ways,

00:58:21.340 you know,

00:58:21.780 they do keep Torah alive because Jesus taught Torah.

00:58:24.980 Yes,

00:58:25.480 exactly.

00:58:25.740 So he's like,

00:58:26.520 he's like to the priest class,

00:58:28.720 to hell with y'all,

00:58:29.760 I'm just going to go teach it to the people in the street.

00:58:32.060 He's like a very good Jew,

00:58:33.300 is what I'm saying?

00:58:33.860 I think he is too.

00:58:34.400 He's a better Jew than like most,

00:58:35.360 most Jews.

00:58:36.080 I think he is too.

00:58:37.020 I think he's like the best.

00:58:38.280 He's like the Elvis of Jews.

00:58:40.700 But he,

00:58:41.500 yeah,

00:58:41.700 he lived it,

00:58:42.800 and he did it.

00:58:44.180 And what he did and what he taught was all in the face of,

00:58:48.440 you know,

00:58:50.180 a Roman genocide on Jewish people.

00:58:53.240 So he was.

00:58:54.920 How was it a genocide on them exactly?

00:58:57.340 Because at the time of the destruction of the second temple,

00:59:01.020 when Jesus was living,

00:59:02.900 they said that the blood of Jews was running knee deep in the streets from Roman occupation.

00:59:08.840 that the people that they would feed to the lions were the Jews and Rabbi Akiva's 24,000 student academy.

00:59:17.480 That's who they did.

00:59:19.000 And anyone who practiced.

00:59:21.320 Rome would do that everywhere they went.

00:59:23.100 They would do that to subjugate everywhere they went.

00:59:25.420 Yeah,

00:59:25.700 they always do that to.

00:59:27.140 The gypsies too?

00:59:28.300 Yeah,

00:59:29.000 they do it to the native.

00:59:30.400 They do it to native tribes when they're trying to steal their land and take their resources.

00:59:36.060 And they'd keep a few and then they'd tax them.

00:59:37.560 I wonder where Rome is now.

00:59:40.860 You know where it is.

00:59:42.540 It's still in charge.

00:59:44.020 We're still under Roman occupation.

00:59:45.900 I know,

00:59:46.300 I know.

00:59:46.480 Yeah,

00:59:46.760 but it's crumbling.

00:59:48.040 I hope so.

00:59:48.900 It's crumbling big time.

00:59:49.960 Real quick,

00:59:50.740 and this is fascinating,

00:59:51.640 by the way,

00:59:51.960 this is a fascinating conversation,

00:59:53.200 but.

00:59:53.600 We didn't even get into his music.

00:59:55.120 No,

00:59:55.140 we gotta,

00:59:55.300 we gotta do,

00:59:56.100 we just gotta do,

00:59:56.920 you don't care?

00:59:57.600 All right.

00:59:57.820 I do.

00:59:58.400 I care about you writing this fucking song when you're 10.

01:00:01.380 Well,

01:00:01.620 I just think it's cool that you got canceled.

01:00:03.560 You got canceled.

01:00:04.100 You're the first person.

01:00:04.680 No,

01:00:04.980 be quiet.

01:00:05.580 What is this song?

01:00:06.860 You're 10 years old and your first song.

01:00:07.980 It's a brilliant song.

01:00:08.860 I heard it.

01:00:09.680 Sexy lady.

01:00:13.460 Live changing.

01:00:13.980 Have you heard it in your head?

01:00:15.800 I still hear it in my head.

01:00:16.660 It just came to you?

01:00:17.420 It just came to you?

01:00:19.320 It's in like.

01:00:19.840 You're 10 years old and it just came to you?

01:00:21.620 Well,

01:00:21.760 it was just like,

01:00:22.420 you know,

01:00:22.740 I was just,

01:00:23.220 you know,

01:00:23.520 I think I like,

01:00:24.080 I wrote it and then I like went into my mom's room and I was just like,

01:00:26.720 I wrote a song.

01:00:27.540 You want to hear it?

01:00:28.940 And then I sang it to her and it was like in the mold of like Billy Idol dancing,

01:00:33.200 dancing with myself kind of thing.

01:00:34.540 Like,

01:00:35.060 so it's kind of got that music in the background,

01:00:37.100 you know,

01:00:38.260 that production,

01:00:39.080 that kind of thing.

01:00:41.840 And what does your mom say?

01:00:44.460 She loved it.

01:00:45.840 And then I was,

01:00:46.440 and then I went back and I started like,

01:00:47.840 I wrote like three more,

01:00:48.980 three more songs.

01:00:49.780 And then I came back in and I was just like,

01:00:52.720 what do you think of these?

01:00:55.740 What'd she think?

01:00:57.100 She loved every one.

01:00:58.440 She was like,

01:00:58.700 Oh,

01:00:58.720 that's so cool.

01:00:59.660 And then,

01:01:00.000 and then I,

01:01:01.200 I think I might've sang,

01:01:02.840 sang one to my dad one time.

01:01:05.020 It didn't go over well.

01:01:07.840 So I didn't sing any more to him for a long time.

01:01:12.440 I don't think I've ever sang it to him.

01:01:14.000 How do you do this time travel in your music?

01:01:17.040 I'm very intrigued by that.

01:01:18.760 Oh,

01:01:18.920 because,

01:01:19.160 because I,

01:01:19.740 I,

01:01:20.080 I listened to as a,

01:01:22.160 as a person that was like,

01:01:23.700 when I got older and as a teenager,

01:01:25.220 I listened to music that was,

01:01:27.100 you know,

01:01:28.120 from a different,

01:01:30.060 from a different era.

01:01:31.420 Kind of like.

01:01:31.740 What era?

01:01:32.740 Well,

01:01:33.120 I mean,

01:01:33.300 from different ones.

01:01:34.000 I mean,

01:01:34.160 like I'd started,

01:01:34.960 I sort of worked my way back.

01:01:36.540 I sort of like,

01:01:37.200 I sort of like started in,

01:01:40.500 started paying attention in,

01:01:41.840 as,

01:01:42.080 as a five-year-old in 1983.

01:01:47.200 Then I had,

01:01:50.120 I had a,

01:01:51.020 I grew up as a preteen,

01:01:52.520 whatever.

01:01:52.840 And then eventually I got to like heavy metal,

01:01:54.820 right?

01:01:55.640 Like in the eighties.

01:01:56.520 And then,

01:01:56.780 but then,

01:01:57.380 and,

01:01:57.560 and it got heavier and heavier.

01:01:59.440 And so I've just,

01:02:00.160 was a cataloging bands after bands,

01:02:02.060 after bands,

01:02:02.640 after bands.

01:02:03.420 It's what you do as a metal head.

01:02:04.880 You just like,

01:02:05.620 they're all the same,

01:02:06.720 you know,

01:02:06.840 they're all,

01:02:07.340 they're all different,

01:02:08.020 but they're all the same.

01:02:09.040 And you learn to like,

01:02:09.980 sort of like,

01:02:10.440 like the micro differences between them.

01:02:13.420 They all like,

01:02:14.220 have like resonance.

01:02:16.520 And,

01:02:16.940 and then I,

01:02:19.080 you know,

01:02:19.460 I,

01:02:19.880 I eventually got so heavy,

01:02:22.120 got so heavy that it started to get into like,

01:02:23.680 you know,

01:02:23.840 the black metal area.

01:02:26.420 And then my parents like,

01:02:27.540 you know,

01:02:27.940 intervened and they were like,

01:02:29.700 maybe you should go stay with your cousins in Mexico.

01:02:32.740 And,

01:02:33.120 because I wasn't socializing very well.

01:02:35.620 I was,

01:02:36.640 you know,

01:02:36.920 when I went,

01:02:37.300 when I went to junior high after,

01:02:39.360 after six years of,

01:02:42.040 of,

01:02:43.540 of Temple Emanuel community day school,

01:02:47.200 reform Jewish school,

01:02:48.840 I went to like a public school in Beverly Hills,

01:02:53.460 you know,

01:02:54.200 and those kids had been there since they were like,

01:02:57.380 really young.

01:02:57.960 And they were,

01:02:58.560 I just,

01:02:59.040 I was like the odd man out.

01:03:01.240 And I was,

01:03:01.680 and I was there,

01:03:02.260 I was with my,

01:03:02.720 with my twisted sister shirt and my fucking like,

01:03:05.020 Gorguts shirt.

01:03:05.700 And I'm just like,

01:03:06.180 basically like,

01:03:06.860 why isn't anybody talking to me,

01:03:08.340 man?

01:03:08.540 Aren't you interested in Gorguts?

01:03:10.420 And,

01:03:10.740 and,

01:03:10.880 and,

01:03:11.040 and,

01:03:11.180 you know,

01:03:11.400 like,

01:03:11.520 I'm just like a little,

01:03:12.220 like I'm a little pipsqueak,

01:03:13.440 you know,

01:03:13.620 like nobody's going to pay attention to me.

01:03:15.140 I was like talking about death metal and,

01:03:18.460 and so I,

01:03:20.200 so I,

01:03:21.340 yeah,

01:03:21.500 so I went to my,

01:03:22.680 I stayed with my cousins when I was 14 in Mexico city.

01:03:27.620 And,

01:03:28.180 and I got socialized.

01:03:29.500 I had my first kiss and my first everything.

01:03:33.240 And when I came back,

01:03:34.820 started high school,

01:03:36.040 I was like reborn as like a sort of like,

01:03:39.340 you know,

01:03:39.820 into the cure and the Smiths.

01:03:43.180 Oh my God.

01:03:43.820 That's my daughter.

01:03:45.440 Yeah.

01:03:45.600 My middle daughter,

01:03:46.820 my second oldest daughter.

01:03:48.700 She,

01:03:50.120 I had to go through the Robert Smith years with her.

01:03:53.360 Oh yeah.

01:03:53.660 So I was,

01:03:54.140 so Robert Smith was like my hero pretty much.

01:03:56.340 Of course.

01:03:57.040 My emotional hero,

01:03:58.520 because I still think he's pretty emotionally there,

01:04:00.500 but he's kind of a retard now.

01:04:02.200 Yeah.

01:04:02.500 But I,

01:04:03.000 but I swore by him for a very long time,

01:04:04.800 well into my adulthood.

01:04:05.960 I thought that he was a cool,

01:04:06.920 I was like,

01:04:07.320 there's nobody that was cool.

01:04:08.940 The only person that was cool was Robert Smith and Morrissey too,

01:04:12.120 but like they hate each other.

01:04:13.020 So it's a kind of like being,

01:04:13.920 it's like the rolling stones.

01:04:14.960 The Beatles kind of thing.

01:04:16.340 But like,

01:04:16.880 but yeah,

01:04:17.800 but like that,

01:04:18.320 that was my,

01:04:19.220 my,

01:04:19.840 my,

01:04:20.500 I went from death metal to death rock,

01:04:23.100 like within like a span of like three months or four months.

01:04:25.800 And I remember coming back to LA with and selling 300 CDs of death metal that I had accumulated and,

01:04:37.460 and swapped it out for The Cure,

01:04:41.720 Cabaret Voltaire,

01:04:42.880 Throbbing Gristle,

01:04:44.760 all these other fucking,

01:04:45.860 all these things that happened in the late,

01:04:47.840 in the punk era kind of thing.

01:04:50.220 And then I worked at a record store and then I started learning stuff about the early seventies and then the late sixties.

01:04:56.260 And then that,

01:04:56.800 that was just like that,

01:04:57.820 that world is just like,

01:04:59.800 just blew my mind.

01:05:02.900 And there was just so much of it.

01:05:04.720 And then I learned about different parts of the world that were influenced by that period.

01:05:10.240 And then I started to orient myself in history and in time.

01:05:14.020 And my entire vision of,

01:05:17.380 of the 20th century is,

01:05:19.000 is colored by like,

01:05:20.080 you know,

01:05:20.300 what music was made when,

01:05:22.260 where,

01:05:22.840 and why.

01:05:23.980 And that's,

01:05:24.940 that's how I sort of see myself in the world.

01:05:26.780 And,

01:05:27.180 and I knew that nobody else was thinking about the music world that way,

01:05:32.080 not thinking about these days that way.

01:05:34.420 So I was just like,

01:05:35.840 let's see what kind of like terrible fucking mess this makes.

01:05:40.540 You know,

01:05:40.680 like,

01:05:40.780 I mean,

01:05:40.920 I know whatever I'm going to make is going to be,

01:05:43.360 I know what,

01:05:44.220 I know what hasn't been done.

01:05:45.380 I know what,

01:05:45.780 I know what has been done.

01:05:47.380 And I,

01:05:48.120 and I,

01:05:48.540 and I,

01:05:49.100 I,

01:05:49.400 I was consigned to obscurity in my mind.

01:05:52.180 I was like,

01:05:52.480 I was like,

01:05:52.740 musicians don't ever,

01:05:54.140 they have,

01:05:54.400 they're flashing the pan at the best and they come out in and out of style.

01:05:58.200 They all end up fucking penniless.

01:05:59.920 Even the fucking king of pop,

01:06:01.420 Michael Jackson.

01:06:02.300 Yeah.

01:06:02.960 They're,

01:06:03.620 so I'm not,

01:06:05.640 it's just world,

01:06:08.200 uh,

01:06:08.520 uh,

01:06:08.920 uh,

01:06:09.820 glory.

01:06:10.240 It's not for me.

01:06:11.900 I just never thought of it.

01:06:13.800 I thought that like,

01:06:14.560 okay,

01:06:14.700 I'll get over this,

01:06:15.760 this urge to want to be accepted and loved.

01:06:19.080 Yeah.

01:06:19.520 And I'll just do music anyway and I'll do it and I'll be discovered as an,

01:06:25.380 you know,

01:06:25.740 like after I'm dead at 80 years old,

01:06:27.600 they're going to like dust out the trunks and the fucking closets and they're going to have all these.

01:06:33.100 Do you know Captain Beefheart?

01:06:34.720 Of course.

01:06:35.180 Of course.

01:06:36.040 See,

01:06:36.440 he's like that.

01:06:37.620 Yeah.

01:06:37.900 It's the same thing.

01:06:38.500 And then everybody looks back on him and goes,

01:06:41.080 damn,

01:06:41.360 this guy started everything.

01:06:43.360 And he was one of the best.

01:06:44.720 Wasn't he?

01:06:45.620 Absolutely.

01:06:46.640 And he's,

01:06:47.060 he's a very big,

01:06:48.420 very big influence on me.

01:06:50.180 Extremely big influence.

01:06:51.520 Absolutely.

01:06:52.080 He's,

01:06:52.260 he's one of the biggest.

01:06:53.320 Him and the shags,

01:06:54.680 like,

01:06:54.800 like,

01:06:55.060 I mean,

01:06:55.280 like anti-music,

01:06:56.500 like making the worst thing possible.

01:06:59.220 I mean,

01:06:59.500 he,

01:06:59.740 he,

01:07:00.160 he really like,

01:07:01.400 he,

01:07:01.700 the way he did it was beautiful.

01:07:04.200 There's so many ways to get it wrong though.

01:07:05.800 That's the best thing about music is that like,

01:07:07.480 you can be the worst at it and be,

01:07:10.180 make the best music ever.

01:07:13.200 That's like,

01:07:13.720 you can't do it.

01:07:14.360 You can't be a doctor that way.

01:07:16.340 You can't be like,

01:07:17.460 yeah.

01:07:18.120 Like,

01:07:18.240 although you can,

01:07:19.220 I guess you can.

01:07:20.680 I mean,

01:07:20.920 I mean,

01:07:21.500 you can,

01:07:23.080 you can call yourself a doctor.

01:07:24.420 I should call myself a doctor from now on.

01:07:26.180 I actually,

01:07:27.020 Dr.

01:07:27.260 Dr. Rosenberg.

01:07:29.240 Dr. Rosenberg.

01:07:31.040 You remind me a little bit of talking to Frank Zappa,

01:07:33.640 who was a friend of mine.

01:07:35.240 Really?

01:07:35.500 You were friends with him?

01:07:36.160 Yeah.

01:07:37.380 Huge influence.

01:07:38.680 Yeah.

01:07:39.420 Yeah.

01:07:39.780 A gigantic influence.

01:07:41.600 Yeah.

01:07:42.400 And he would,

01:07:43.620 and Alice Cooper,

01:07:44.260 are you friends with him?

01:07:45.200 No,

01:07:45.480 I'm not,

01:07:45.760 I don't know him,

01:07:46.780 but I do like him.

01:07:48.860 He was discovered by Frank Zappa.

01:07:50.600 Yeah,

01:07:50.860 I know that.

01:07:51.860 No,

01:07:52.140 her and Frank go way back.

01:07:53.460 I knew their kids.

01:07:54.560 They were really friends.

01:07:55.640 Yeah.

01:07:55.920 You know,

01:07:56.540 one record that I made.

01:08:00.480 I love that his stuff was so instrumental and for an orchestra,

01:08:06.560 but it was still rock.

01:08:08.960 He's actually one of the best pop songwriters ever.

01:08:11.400 Right.

01:08:11.760 Like the Mothers of Invention,

01:08:13.560 the early stuff,

01:08:14.760 the,

01:08:14.980 the,

01:08:15.920 we're only in it for the money,

01:08:17.220 the parody stuff that he was doing about,

01:08:19.760 that stuff is like some of the best pop music.

01:08:21.560 But like,

01:08:22.560 but like,

01:08:22.780 he doesn't get enough,

01:08:23.960 enough,

01:08:24.320 enough,

01:08:24.820 enough,

01:08:24.980 enough praise for that.

01:08:28.420 Like he,

01:08:28.640 he,

01:08:28.940 he,

01:08:29.240 so a lot of my stuff has that quality of like that early,

01:08:32.060 that,

01:08:32.840 that,

01:08:33.060 that 60s era,

01:08:36.020 Mothers of Invention kind of thing.

01:08:38.900 And,

01:08:39.420 and some of the experimental,

01:08:40.980 some of the freewheeling stuff and some of the more like,

01:08:43.600 some of like the,

01:08:44.200 dallying with like the war,

01:08:46.020 the worst aspects,

01:08:46.960 the trash of,

01:08:47.560 of everything.

01:08:49.440 And so,

01:08:50.100 and I really wanted to make the worst possible thing.

01:08:52.240 And for like the longest period of time.

01:08:54.160 Yeah,

01:08:54.280 I know what you mean.

01:08:55.160 So,

01:08:55.280 so,

01:08:55.960 but then of course people,

01:08:56.920 some people liked it and I was just like,

01:08:58.080 well,

01:08:58.980 there's always going to be some people that like what you do.

01:09:02.080 It's,

01:09:02.900 I,

01:09:03.340 it's like a happy medium.

01:09:04.540 Eventually you're like,

01:09:05.780 I'll settle for being just okay.

01:09:08.720 I know what you mean.

01:09:09.700 And so,

01:09:10.260 so I definitely don't think I,

01:09:12.340 I'm,

01:09:12.520 I'm happy that I can basically,

01:09:13.900 I was happy before January 6th,

01:09:17.560 which is another,

01:09:19.140 it's a whole new chapter.

01:09:20.100 That's for the next episode.

01:09:21.320 Okay.

01:09:22.000 No,

01:09:22.420 so.

01:09:22.640 Or we'll have you back,

01:09:23.460 but no,

01:09:24.060 it's a fascinating story.

01:09:25.100 January 6th,

01:09:25.320 I definitely want to get into.

01:09:26.940 So here you are a cutting edge musician,

01:09:30.840 thinker,

01:09:31.500 artist,

01:09:32.660 and you make the fatal mistake of liking Donald Trump as I did.

01:09:37.460 I made the fatal mistake of saying on my Twitter,

01:09:41.520 vote for Trump.

01:09:42.840 Yeah.

01:09:43.140 That's what I did.

01:09:44.640 Big mistake.

01:09:45.220 That was the action that I made.

01:09:46.440 That was the,

01:09:46.960 that was the action that like basically put me on the radar,

01:09:50.640 made everybody make a mental check.

01:09:52.840 Oh,

01:09:53.020 we have to get rid of that guy.

01:09:54.440 Yeah.

01:09:54.820 And basically they,

01:09:56.540 they,

01:09:57.040 they,

01:09:57.400 they fudged some sort of news,

01:10:00.220 a news headline about me saying that I was at somewhere that I wasn't.

01:10:06.360 And they just,

01:10:08.240 they just cannot stand.

01:10:09.840 Well,

01:10:10.000 you were in DC on,

01:10:11.500 on January 6th.

01:10:12.500 That doesn't,

01:10:13.120 that doesn't mean anything though.

01:10:14.220 But you weren't even at the Capitol.

01:10:17.740 I've never been to the Capitol in my life.

01:10:19.420 You didn't rush the Capitol.

01:10:20.780 I've never been to the Capitol.

01:10:21.900 I've never seen the Capitol.

01:10:22.580 I went back to my hotel room and I fucking,

01:10:24.660 I fell.

01:10:25.160 I saw,

01:10:25.840 I saw Donald Trump at the white house.

01:10:28.940 I was like,

01:10:29.340 I was like,

01:10:29.620 I was like,

01:10:29.940 it's like,

01:10:30.540 okay,

01:10:30.880 he,

01:10:31.160 his thing went,

01:10:32.080 it was over.

01:10:32.900 Yeah.

01:10:33.140 I was like,

01:10:33.620 I can go home now.

01:10:34.600 Like I came when I was,

01:10:35.920 came when I was here for.

01:10:36.940 I was here to like,

01:10:37.640 basically to say,

01:10:39.120 to tip my hat to the fucking,

01:10:41.660 the man who I thought was the man.

01:10:44.620 Still think he's the man.

01:10:45.960 Yeah.

01:10:46.400 Hope he's the man.

01:10:48.400 Anyway,

01:10:49.080 I just liked that.

01:10:50.320 Uh,

01:10:50.600 I just,

01:10:51.140 it was my last opportunity to see him and say goodbye,

01:10:53.620 say,

01:10:53.780 pay my respects.

01:10:55.200 And then meanwhile,

01:10:57.120 across town,

01:10:58.340 I,

01:10:58.600 little to my knowledge,

01:10:59.520 there was something,

01:11:00.760 some sort of like commotion brewing.

01:11:03.360 Didn't even hear about that until the next day,

01:11:07.360 until I read the headlines.

01:11:08.640 But even by then I was already canceled.

01:11:10.700 So,

01:11:11.200 so I didn't know that there was like,

01:11:12.940 you know,

01:11:13.120 the whole day was like,

01:11:14.200 was like nice.

01:11:15.240 It was like,

01:11:15.760 like my,

01:11:16.340 my friends went to the Capitol to check it out.

01:11:19.840 And they're like,

01:11:20.460 do you want to come?

01:11:21.040 And I'm just like,

01:11:22.240 this sounds,

01:11:22.820 it's like a protest.

01:11:23.620 Like,

01:11:23.880 I don't know.

01:11:24.300 It sounds boring to me,

01:11:24.980 man.

01:11:25.060 Like I already saw the fucking King,

01:11:26.420 man.

01:11:26.560 Like I don't need to,

01:11:27.540 maybe,

01:11:28.580 maybe I had like an inkling that something bad would,

01:11:30.720 would happen,

01:11:31.600 but maybe that's,

01:11:32.400 that's,

01:11:32.680 that's been my fatal flaw is like,

01:11:34.120 it's like,

01:11:34.440 is,

01:11:34.800 is discerning not to go there.

01:11:38.240 Having the,

01:11:38.840 having the,

01:11:39.440 the foresight to sleep,

01:11:41.840 sleep it,

01:11:42.820 sleep through it.

01:11:43.840 But of course that,

01:11:44.860 that was what,

01:11:45.760 they didn't care about that.

01:11:47.220 They had already pegged me as being somebody that like,

01:11:49.020 they're going to basically take out.

01:11:51.880 And so,

01:11:53.480 you know,

01:11:53.740 I think I had,

01:11:54.300 I had a friend who basically tweeted themselves in front of the Capitol and the,

01:11:59.200 and whoever was watching associates me and them.

01:12:03.000 Right.

01:12:03.500 And basically like lumped us two together.

01:12:05.500 And then basically when the person,

01:12:07.500 when Olivia Newsy was in my DM box saying like,

01:12:11.060 you know,

01:12:11.300 we have video footage of you at the fucking Capitol.

01:12:15.020 What do you have to say about that?

01:12:16.200 Big fan,

01:12:16.620 by the way.

01:12:18.200 And I'm just like,

01:12:19.220 well,

01:12:19.540 I mean,

01:12:20.000 I say that that's complete and utter bullshit.

01:12:22.720 You don't have to answer this.

01:12:24.000 You don't have to be so catty.

01:12:25.060 We're just asking questions.

01:12:26.140 It's,

01:12:26.300 it's not a big deal.

01:12:27.000 And I'm just like,

01:12:28.460 I'm not,

01:12:29.220 not making a big deal.

01:12:30.160 You just,

01:12:30.520 you don't know what you're talking about.

01:12:32.480 And she's like,

01:12:33.100 okay,

01:12:33.300 well forget about it then.

01:12:34.260 You know,

01:12:34.400 like,

01:12:34.520 I mean like,

01:12:34.980 and the next thing I know,

01:12:36.080 they took that quote.

01:12:37.440 I was there to support my president.

01:12:39.880 I didn't know what they were talking about.

01:12:42.020 That,

01:12:42.160 that got used as like me,

01:12:43.500 practically an admission.

01:12:45.180 My record label.

01:12:46.700 Dropped you.

01:12:47.260 Dropped me.

01:12:47.840 Yeah.

01:12:48.560 You were cast?

01:12:49.420 Distributors dropped me.

01:12:50.440 I mean,

01:12:50.600 I'm,

01:12:50.780 to this day,

01:12:51.540 I'm,

01:12:51.800 I'm a band,

01:12:53.260 band from the music industry.

01:12:55.860 Yeah.

01:12:56.640 And,

01:12:56.960 and moreover,

01:12:58.260 anybody who supports me is banned.

01:13:00.600 Anybody who publicly supports me is banned.

01:13:02.900 So everybody in music,

01:13:04.120 if you are in music,

01:13:06.820 and you dare say something about it,

01:13:09.480 and you have any kind of like reach or profile,

01:13:13.460 you will be fired from your band for putting up an appreciation post about Ariel Pink.

01:13:20.300 Yeah.

01:13:20.460 And I'm talking about that entire indie music world paradigm.

01:13:25.880 I mean,

01:13:26.020 talk about like the whole thing.

01:13:27.320 They did that to her with Hollywood.

01:13:28.520 We get it.

01:13:29.100 We saw it.

01:13:29.820 Yeah.

01:13:30.020 They did it to,

01:13:30.480 to Jay Johnston as well.

01:13:32.280 Yeah.

01:13:34.800 I can't even believe,

01:13:35.760 I can't believe that these people actually aren't,

01:13:37.720 aren't hung right now.

01:13:38.920 I know.

01:13:39.180 I met,

01:13:39.860 I met Douglas Mackey yesterday.

01:13:41.860 I don't know who that is.

01:13:43.080 Douglas Mackey was the guy who wrote the meme,

01:13:46.000 who got,

01:13:46.780 who got put in prison.

01:13:48.460 Oh,

01:13:48.860 yeah.

01:13:48.980 For the meme.

01:13:49.960 Yeah.

01:13:50.360 Of the joke that,

01:13:52.140 the,

01:13:52.360 the,

01:13:52.600 the call,

01:13:53.880 you know,

01:13:54.880 the Hillary Clinton.

01:13:55.540 Vote from home.

01:13:56.000 Yeah.

01:13:56.400 Dial,

01:13:57.060 dial this number.

01:13:58.300 It was election interference.

01:14:00.080 Right?

01:14:00.900 Put in prison.

01:14:01.820 Yeah.

01:14:02.660 Still fighting it on appeal.

01:14:04.400 Yeah.

01:14:05.120 I met him yesterday.

01:14:06.240 Yeah.

01:14:07.400 Nice.

01:14:07.620 Cannot,

01:14:07.980 how do these people,

01:14:09.360 how do the fucking people,

01:14:10.800 how do they get away with it?

01:14:12.920 How are they not hung from gallows?

01:14:15.440 Yeah.

01:14:16.740 They're not in power anymore.

01:14:18.720 I,

01:14:19.020 if,

01:14:19.540 if Donald Trump is,

01:14:20.820 is,

01:14:21.740 I mean,

01:14:22.080 I know it's not that simple,

01:14:23.980 but like.

01:14:25.240 No,

01:14:25.460 I need to see arrests.

01:14:26.600 There need to be arrests.

01:14:27.480 I fucking agree.

01:14:27.700 There need,

01:14:27.940 there need to be arrests and,

01:14:29.240 and I,

01:14:29.580 and all of this fucking like.

01:14:30.660 Or we'll do it.

01:14:31.000 I mean,

01:14:31.500 I mean,

01:14:31.740 I was already,

01:14:32.300 I didn't think he was going to win.

01:14:33.700 I was,

01:14:34.200 my bet was that he was going to be killed.

01:14:36.520 Me too.

01:14:36.980 Before the election.

01:14:38.960 And I thought,

01:14:39.340 I thought that they were,

01:14:40.120 I was convinced of it.

01:14:41.060 I was like,

01:14:41.600 they can't have an election.

01:14:43.340 They,

01:14:43.620 what they.

01:14:44.460 I thought they wouldn't have an election.

01:14:45.960 I thought that they,

01:14:48.020 and I thought,

01:14:49.120 and I said it,

01:14:49.840 if,

01:14:50.760 if they do have an election and he's going to win,

01:14:54.240 obviously.

01:14:55.280 And if he wins,

01:14:56.860 I'm,

01:14:57.740 I have to rethink my whole fucking thing because there's no way that they would let somebody win unless they basically.

01:15:04.680 So now you think he's part of the machine.

01:15:05.900 Well,

01:15:06.140 I mean,

01:15:06.360 I have to wonder about it.

01:15:07.640 When I'm saying it,

01:15:08.160 when I,

01:15:08.480 I kind of don't think so.

01:15:09.880 I kind of think yes.

01:15:11.160 And I kind of think that it's,

01:15:12.420 it's a bigger,

01:15:13.180 it's probably too big.

01:15:15.960 Too big.

01:15:16.460 Too big a thing to,

01:15:18.840 to take care of.

01:15:19.980 Exactly.

01:15:20.240 I mean,

01:15:20.380 it's like,

01:15:20.580 it's like having like the,

01:15:22.180 the,

01:15:22.560 the weight of the world on your shoulders.

01:15:24.900 And how are you supposed to play that?

01:15:26.880 Like I,

01:15:27.420 I don't,

01:15:28.040 I,

01:15:28.360 I,

01:15:28.700 if he's real,

01:15:29.860 I would proceed with caution.

01:15:32.600 Same.

01:15:33.300 And so,

01:15:33.820 so we can't,

01:15:34.500 we can't rush to judgment about it.

01:15:36.180 We don't know.

01:15:37.120 I'm hopeful.

01:15:38.300 I'm glad that Kamala is not in there because if she was,

01:15:42.900 I would be able to,

01:15:43.860 I could,

01:15:44.140 I could foresee.

01:15:45.960 Like the FBI coming for me and basically,

01:15:48.920 and basically taking me out within a year.

01:15:50.980 I mean like,

01:15:51.480 like,

01:15:51.640 like assassination.

01:15:52.580 I can see that too.

01:15:53.040 I saw that too.

01:15:54.080 I mean,

01:15:55.860 I saw that for me as well.

01:15:56.480 That's the only reason I voted for him too.

01:15:58.080 It's just,

01:15:58.440 it's just because like I,

01:15:59.400 I,

01:15:59.720 the only reason I,

01:16:00.420 I hung my,

01:16:01.200 my hopes on him is because it was my,

01:16:03.040 my,

01:16:03.340 my,

01:16:03.680 the future of my,

01:16:04.780 to live.

01:16:05.460 I have a question.

01:16:06.400 What if the enemy wasn't really that smart or powerful all along?

01:16:09.760 They're not.

01:16:10.380 Maybe that's what it was.

01:16:11.480 Cause I had the same thought.

01:16:12.520 Like Trump.

01:16:12.700 They're not,

01:16:13.080 they're not powerful.

01:16:13.840 They only have everybody's minds.

01:16:16.300 Yeah.

01:16:17.000 But it's not,

01:16:17.540 that's,

01:16:17.800 that's all that's,

01:16:18.560 it's not,

01:16:19.060 it's like an illusion.

01:16:19.740 It's like a spook.

01:16:20.380 It's like,

01:16:20.680 if you change their minds,

01:16:21.700 if you put some new information in,

01:16:23.560 they'll think something else.

01:16:24.580 What I'm saying is that like,

01:16:25.460 like,

01:16:25.660 like,

01:16:25.900 like that's,

01:16:26.480 that's what we're dealing with.

01:16:27.680 That's what I think happened.

01:16:28.560 But that's it.

01:16:29.140 But,

01:16:29.280 but,

01:16:29.620 but it's not,

01:16:30.220 no,

01:16:30.680 no,

01:16:31.380 something else.

01:16:32.160 Okay.

01:16:32.540 I think that like it happened despite them putting stuff in people's minds

01:16:37.560 because people are not that stupid and they basically didn't need the media.

01:16:41.940 They hate the media so much that the media and it's fucking like doctors of psychology

01:16:47.620 and knowing how to brainwash people.

01:16:49.520 And it was so arrogant and they,

01:16:51.560 they,

01:16:51.740 they,

01:16:51.900 they,

01:16:52.280 they just,

01:16:53.320 they fumbled the ball so gloriously.

01:16:55.520 That's what I'm saying.

01:16:56.440 They had to go so over the top that they basically like unmatched themselves as basically being.

01:17:00.660 They totally exposed themselves.

01:17:01.980 They're such,

01:17:02.940 they're the dumbest,

01:17:04.220 worst people ever.

01:17:05.640 And I mean,

01:17:06.140 they're,

01:17:06.320 they literally,

01:17:07.480 they have,

01:17:08.100 they should be tried.

01:17:10.320 Treason is like the biggest,

01:17:11.800 is,

01:17:13.000 is like the highest offense in the country,

01:17:14.500 right?

01:17:14.720 I mean,

01:17:15.200 they're getting away with it.

01:17:17.080 Nobody's been arrested for treason.

01:17:18.760 Yeah.

01:17:19.360 They're overthrowing the government with their fake election and all the rest of it.

01:17:22.680 They tried to kill him for God's sakes.

01:17:24.100 What the fuck?

01:17:25.020 I mean,

01:17:26.400 I mean,

01:17:26.780 unless that's stage two,

01:17:28.180 what I'm saying is like,

01:17:30.160 one never knows.

01:17:32.180 I,

01:17:32.480 I,

01:17:32.720 I,

01:17:33.180 I,

01:17:33.440 I don't choose to think that.

01:17:35.420 It's possible though.

01:17:36.280 We have to be open-minded.

01:17:37.140 I mean,

01:17:37.640 I think that like Trump might've fooled them.

01:17:39.240 I mean,

01:17:39.440 I'm saying like,

01:17:40.200 no,

01:17:40.620 I know he did.

01:17:41.520 Yeah.

01:17:41.720 And Trump might've,

01:17:42.560 it might've been completely like staged from his side because he has his own media thing.

01:17:47.020 None of the CNN's cameras are like covering his,

01:17:49.720 his life's things anymore.

01:17:50.880 All he needs to do is basically after Alex Jones,

01:17:54.320 hello.

01:17:55.240 All he needs to do is basically like have a,

01:17:57.980 a shooting on,

01:17:59.100 on camera,

01:17:59.940 like go,

01:18:01.000 ouch,

01:18:01.420 just catch up on the fucking,

01:18:02.640 what I'm saying is like,

01:18:03.800 all he needs to do is do that,

01:18:05.240 have his camera see it and then send it to the media.

01:18:09.640 Yeah.

01:18:09.840 And basically they,

01:18:10.480 they would have to,

01:18:11.320 they would have to,

01:18:12.460 they would have to say it's real if they,

01:18:15.940 if they weren't going to put themselves at risk for doubting something that was an actual scene.

01:18:25.140 Did you know that was the only thing CNN ever televised of his rallies?

01:18:27.880 Was that one in Butler?

01:18:28.820 Yeah,

01:18:28.840 just that one.

01:18:29.200 What I'm saying,

01:18:29.920 was it,

01:18:30.240 was it televised?

01:18:30.880 I mean,

01:18:31.120 I think it was live televised.

01:18:32.760 The only one they ever televised on CNN.

01:18:35.020 So that makes me think he wasn't into it because it was a weird stuff.

01:18:38.760 They wanted us to see his head,

01:18:39.840 blown off.

01:18:40.500 They wanted to see us to see his head blown off,

01:18:42.400 but maybe,

01:18:43.960 but,

01:18:44.160 but,

01:18:44.440 but it depends on,

01:18:45.320 on who is behind the media.

01:18:47.220 Cause like,

01:18:47.940 here's the thing.

01:18:48.500 It's like,

01:18:48.880 if it was like,

01:18:49.540 if it was like a,

01:18:51.560 no,

01:18:51.860 that's a good point.

01:18:54.100 That,

01:18:54.340 that really,

01:18:54.780 that really puts a,

01:18:55.940 that makes it that much more diabolical.

01:18:58.800 That's what I think.

01:18:59.340 I just,

01:19:00.000 I,

01:19:00.300 that is true by the way.

01:19:01.140 What I'm telling you is true.

01:19:02.380 They're so diabolical.

01:19:03.580 That was the only thing CNN ever televised in Israeli.

01:19:05.780 So it makes you think that he's not.

01:19:07.340 Cause I know they're so dumb.

01:19:09.020 Oh my.

01:19:09.280 That's what I'm telling you.

01:19:10.320 I think maybe we overestimated them as an enemy.

01:19:12.540 They're not that smart.

01:19:13.220 I think that that's,

01:19:13.900 but I think evil is dumb.

01:19:15.700 Yeah.

01:19:15.980 It's not evil.

01:19:17.340 That's what evil is,

01:19:18.540 is,

01:19:18.760 is,

01:19:18.960 is dumb.

01:19:20.260 Yeah.

01:19:20.540 No,

01:19:20.860 here's what it is.

01:19:21.520 It's,

01:19:22.060 it's,

01:19:22.340 it's,

01:19:22.360 it's arrogance.

01:19:23.540 Yes.

01:19:23.780 I like that.

01:19:24.140 It's,

01:19:24.340 it's,

01:19:24.680 which is stupidity.

01:19:25.780 Yeah,

01:19:26.040 it is.

01:19:26.520 It's,

01:19:26.720 it's,

01:19:26.740 it's haughtiness.

01:19:28.160 It's,

01:19:28.260 it's like.

01:19:28.760 Arrogance is ignorance.

01:19:31.500 The Uber's here already?

01:19:32.660 No,

01:19:33.020 keep talking.

01:19:33.620 Send them back.

01:19:34.880 I'm sleeping over.

01:19:35.720 I'm just kidding.

01:19:37.800 But,

01:19:38.340 I feel like I could talk to you for a million years.

01:19:41.560 Yeah,

01:19:41.820 I love talking to you too.

01:19:43.340 And thank you for doing this.

01:19:44.540 I know that you're,

01:19:45.340 you're not feeling too hot or whatever,

01:19:46.740 but you're.

01:19:47.420 Well,

01:19:47.640 I was very intrigued by,

01:19:49.420 with the idea of talking with you.

01:19:51.560 Well,

01:19:51.740 I appreciate that.

01:19:52.100 Because,

01:19:52.380 you know,

01:19:52.840 because I just love punk rock,

01:19:54.700 you know,

01:19:54.940 and I was in a couple of punk rock bands and I still have the desire to do punk or perform.

01:20:01.960 What bands were you,

01:20:02.700 what bands?

01:20:03.240 Who do you,

01:20:03.560 who did you know?

01:20:03.920 Well,

01:20:03.940 they were my own,

01:20:04.840 but it was.

01:20:06.260 Were you friends with like the germs?

01:20:08.680 I was friends with,

01:20:10.580 oh no,

01:20:12.820 I forget his name.

01:20:14.940 From the Sex Pistols.

01:20:16.840 Oh,

01:20:17.160 Johnny Linen.

01:20:17.880 Yeah.

01:20:18.320 No,

01:20:18.920 I wasn't friends with him.

01:20:20.140 I was friends with the other guy.

01:20:22.900 Oh,

01:20:23.180 Sid Vicious.

01:20:25.060 Or,

01:20:25.540 or,

01:20:25.700 or Steve Jones.

01:20:27.360 Steve Jones.

01:20:28.140 Oh,

01:20:28.320 okay.

01:20:28.920 And so I was talking to Steve Jones about,

01:20:31.520 you know,

01:20:31.880 wanting to do it.

01:20:32.800 And I talked to,

01:20:33.940 like,

01:20:37.060 oh,

01:20:37.380 I can't remember anybody's name,

01:20:38.940 but I did put together my own band and I went to CBGB in New York and performed.

01:20:45.760 I went on the Howard Stern show to promote it and tell everybody to come down and see me.

01:20:50.420 When he was a radio station,

01:20:51.500 when he was just a radio show.

01:20:52.700 Yeah.

01:20:52.960 and,

01:20:54.180 uh,

01:20:54.460 I,

01:20:56.060 what I did was like,

01:20:58.920 I did a 14 minute show and I did,

01:21:02.900 um,

01:21:03.860 a monologue and then about,

01:21:06.820 and then I did my generation,

01:21:09.000 but I speeded it up by five and did,

01:21:12.340 you know,

01:21:12.700 did all those songs,

01:21:14.240 which kind of is intriguing to me about what,

01:21:16.860 what you do in the way you,

01:21:19.020 um,

01:21:20.900 take one time frame and move it to another time frame.

01:21:25.940 I mean,

01:21:26.420 you fuck with the timeline and,

01:21:28.900 and that's fantastic.

01:21:30.140 And that's what I was trying to do back then was fuck with the timeline to speed up all the old songs and sing them punk.

01:21:38.620 You know,

01:21:39.260 and I sang,

01:21:40.120 I'm a man.

01:21:42.100 Well,

01:21:42.480 I mean,

01:21:42.720 I think the Ramones were doing kind of the same thing.

01:21:44.500 I think like all,

01:21:45.260 all,

01:21:45.480 all the good,

01:21:46.460 all rock and roll is just like,

01:21:48.100 sort of like the process of necrophilia.

01:21:51.100 Like it's just bringing it back from the dead.

01:21:53.420 Yeah.

01:21:53.860 So,

01:21:54.100 so,

01:21:54.420 so that's why I kind of like love it is because it's all about keeping it alive.

01:22:00.140 Keeping the dead alive,

01:22:01.200 keeping things that like are extinct,

01:22:03.280 you know,

01:22:04.640 and,

01:22:04.820 and,

01:22:05.060 and outdated back into fashion.

01:22:07.540 You know what I mean?

01:22:07.760 That's kind of the whole Trump thing.

01:22:09.320 That's,

01:22:09.480 that's,

01:22:09.800 that's the whole,

01:22:10.560 that make America great.

01:22:11.840 I,

01:22:12.060 I know.

01:22:12.780 If you want to sum me up in,

01:22:14.360 in,

01:22:14.680 in,

01:22:14.960 in a,

01:22:15.320 in a few words,

01:22:16.000 and this is what will tie in everything.

01:22:17.940 It's,

01:22:18.520 it's that I like the past.

01:22:23.500 I believe in the past.

01:22:24.780 I'm all about preserving the past.

01:22:27.220 And I hate change.

01:22:29.000 Change is,

01:22:30.140 the devil.

01:22:31.500 You don't,

01:22:32.200 it's not your friend.

01:22:33.520 It's,

01:22:33.760 yes,

01:22:34.200 it can,

01:22:35.220 you can,

01:22:36.000 there is room for reinvention.

01:22:37.580 Everything goes to shit.

01:22:38.600 But if you love something,

01:22:40.000 hold onto it for dear life while it's fucking there.

01:22:43.440 It's going away.

01:22:45.120 Don't worship.

01:22:47.220 Change.

01:22:48.220 And newness.

01:22:49.040 And new,

01:22:49.300 and,

01:22:49.680 and just,

01:22:50.260 and reinvention and rebirth.

01:22:51.820 Fucking enough.

01:22:53.620 Enough.

01:22:54.340 We don't,

01:22:54.760 we don't need it anymore.

01:22:55.800 It's,

01:22:56.260 it's,

01:22:56.520 it's,

01:22:56.680 nothing even lands.

01:22:58.320 It doesn't even have a chance to fucking stick around to fucking be born into anything.

01:23:02.780 It's just fucking constantly molting into this fucking demon seed.

01:23:06.780 And it's just like,

01:23:07.400 it's like,

01:23:07.840 even,

01:23:08.400 even I know that.

01:23:09.120 And I was into fucking death metal and black metal and satanic shit.

01:23:12.500 It's like,

01:23:12.900 it's like keep your,

01:23:16.100 if you love something,

01:23:17.140 hold onto it.

01:23:19.120 For dear life,

01:23:20.440 don't let it go.

01:23:21.620 And keep it to yourself too.

01:23:23.160 Don't share it with the rest of the world.

01:23:25.060 Boy,

01:23:25.280 I know that one.

01:23:26.300 This is,

01:23:27.460 if you know of anything good,

01:23:28.980 don't ever tell anybody about it.

01:23:32.220 Anything that's good in the world is,

01:23:35.480 is,

01:23:35.780 because people are attracted to good things.

01:23:37.480 And,

01:23:37.760 and they'll corrupt it.

01:23:39.520 It won't be good.

01:23:39.900 They want to fuck it up.

01:23:40.720 It won't,

01:23:41.100 it won't be good by the time they're fucking through with it.

01:23:43.440 That's,

01:23:43.840 that's the reality of it.

01:23:44.820 So that's probably why they made me famous in the first place.

01:23:47.940 It's probably just to get rid of me.

01:23:49.800 That's what I think they did to me.

01:23:51.820 Just so they could humiliate me.

01:23:53.780 And I think that's what they do.

01:23:54.840 You have said that mom.

01:23:56.060 I know I have said that,

01:23:57.080 but then I was like,

01:23:57.980 how much of that do you think is cause you're a Jew?

01:24:01.300 I don't think any of it's cause I'm a Jew.

01:24:02.740 I think it's cause,

01:24:03.340 cause I think.

01:24:05.500 I do.

01:24:07.560 You think that they were just giving you a,

01:24:09.200 they were just doing you the favor.

01:24:10.360 Cause you were a Jew.

01:24:11.660 No,

01:24:12.060 it's just saying destroying her.

01:24:13.380 Cause she was a Jew.

01:24:13.620 Oh,

01:24:13.800 destroying her.

01:24:14.500 Oh,

01:24:14.660 so they made you cause you were Jewish,

01:24:16.040 but they destroyed you because you were Jewish too.

01:24:18.140 Yeah.

01:24:19.020 See,

01:24:19.260 I don't think that they made me because I was Jewish.

01:24:21.280 I don't think that at all.

01:24:22.900 I don't think that they,

01:24:23.800 I don't think that they knew that I was,

01:24:26.040 I think that like they.

01:24:27.260 Maybe you made yourself cause you're.

01:24:28.620 I think,

01:24:29.040 I think you're giving the Jews way too much credit.

01:24:30.780 Yeah.

01:24:31.180 No,

01:24:31.480 I'm not because nobody knew I was a Jew either.

01:24:34.500 Yeah.

01:24:35.100 No one thinks of either of you as Jews.

01:24:37.080 But everybody should know that everybody in,

01:24:38.820 in Hollywood is Jewish.

01:24:39.800 Well,

01:24:40.160 that's,

01:24:40.620 but you're getting there because you're a creative.

01:24:42.200 it's more like this.

01:24:44.580 Everyone on earth has some Jew in them.

01:24:49.020 That's what I'm saying.

01:24:49.920 That's what I did.

01:24:50.380 By blood,

01:24:51.120 by blood,

01:24:51.800 not by,

01:24:52.220 by culture.

01:24:52.980 I'm saying,

01:24:53.420 I'm saying,

01:24:53.740 but even by culture too.

01:24:54.880 The point is that like,

01:24:56.720 to hate a Jew is to like,

01:24:57.980 basically like hate yourself.

01:24:59.460 So,

01:24:59.660 so,

01:24:59.900 so,

01:25:00.320 so when like,

01:25:01.120 you know,

01:25:01.300 you're,

01:25:01.580 you're trying to kill the Jews or trying to like rid the world of Jews.

01:25:04.840 It's just like,

01:25:05.500 it's like chopping off a limb of your fucking,

01:25:07.300 like,

01:25:07.460 you're talking about,

01:25:07.920 like,

01:25:08.420 like,

01:25:08.900 like Israel might be,

01:25:10.420 this is what I wanted to talk about.

01:25:11.580 I want to talk about Epstein.

01:25:12.740 Yeah.

01:25:13.120 Because I kind of like,

01:25:13.980 I really,

01:25:14.900 I really believe that like,

01:25:16.980 like,

01:25:19.040 what do you think that's all about?

01:25:19.960 Like,

01:25:20.080 I mean,

01:25:20.300 I,

01:25:20.460 I think that like the Epstein thing,

01:25:22.460 like,

01:25:23.580 it's just the FBI seizing the blackmail operation that may have been Israel,

01:25:30.320 may have been,

01:25:30.820 but it's besides the point.

01:25:31.820 No.

01:25:32.020 Why anybody fucking talks about it being Mossad.

01:25:34.600 I mean,

01:25:34.780 there's tons of agents from different countries at any given time.

01:25:38.120 No.

01:25:38.440 Trying to blackmail a fucking like,

01:25:40.020 like famous people.

01:25:40.680 All intelligence companies.

01:25:41.200 But the point is like everybody focusing on like,

01:25:42.960 on like the Israeli part.

01:25:44.080 No,

01:25:44.460 here,

01:25:44.760 yeah,

01:25:45.060 because it's the Jew,

01:25:46.140 but the real thing is that Mossad,

01:25:50.260 all the intelligence operation operatives and organizations in the world,

01:25:55.740 they work for MI6,

01:25:57.620 which is Britain,

01:25:58.720 which is the UK,

01:26:00.320 which is the Royals,

01:26:02.700 which is the people who cause all the wars and finance both sides because they own the stock markets and all the banks.

01:26:10.280 Right,

01:26:10.300 but that's not even like,

01:26:11.560 that's not interesting to me.

01:26:12.740 Like,

01:26:12.820 I mean,

01:26:12.960 like,

01:26:13.040 I mean,

01:26:13.280 yeah,

01:26:13.400 of course,

01:26:14.040 like I'm saying,

01:26:14.480 I'm saying,

01:26:14.800 I'm saying,

01:26:15.060 that's not like what's going to be like uncovered.

01:26:17.320 Like what they're protecting is not that.

01:26:20.880 No,

01:26:21.300 I know what you're saying.

01:26:21.780 What they're protecting.

01:26:22.700 No,

01:26:22.960 they are.

01:26:23.780 They're protecting the royal family who gave Epstein all the money to build that island.

01:26:28.380 Prince Andrew was very heavily involved.

01:26:30.000 No,

01:26:30.140 no,

01:26:30.220 no,

01:26:30.280 but I don't think that like,

01:26:31.520 first of all,

01:26:32.100 like that's their right to do that.

01:26:33.640 Like,

01:26:33.780 and if I was a fucking,

01:26:35.180 a country like Israel or any other country,

01:26:37.660 I would want to fucking have agents on the ground,

01:26:40.340 wherever in the States,

01:26:41.600 probably who,

01:26:42.780 who could,

01:26:43.520 and,

01:26:43.620 and able to blackmail people by putting them,

01:26:47.060 make,

01:26:47.300 putting them in compromising positions and having them do things willing,

01:26:50.480 willfully that were,

01:26:51.340 that were criminal.

01:26:51.960 Okay.

01:26:52.320 Like,

01:26:52.480 I mean,

01:26:52.620 what I'm saying is like,

01:26:53.440 what,

01:26:53.600 what,

01:26:54.120 it's like a gang or the mafia.

01:26:58.260 That's how they all run.

01:26:59.280 Yes.

01:26:59.620 What I'm saying is like,

01:27:00.700 like,

01:27:00.880 like,

01:27:01.060 like the,

01:27:01.920 the who is,

01:27:02.960 is framing our,

01:27:04.080 our government officials is not the fucking scandal.

01:27:07.480 The scandal is that they are fucking terrible people that can be compromised.

01:27:11.740 What I'm saying is like,

01:27:12.480 that's the coverup.

01:27:13.620 The coverup is,

01:27:14.520 what I'm saying is the conversation about like M's who's behind the blackmail.

01:27:18.240 It's like,

01:27:18.700 who cares?

01:27:19.700 We have all that.

01:27:20.800 We have things to the fucking,

01:27:22.040 I didn't want to have sex with all those children,

01:27:24.500 but the Jews made me do.

01:27:25.960 Yeah,

01:27:26.140 no,

01:27:26.280 no,

01:27:26.540 no.

01:27:27.200 But also like,

01:27:28.240 like,

01:27:28.480 like,

01:27:28.700 that's what they're saying.

01:27:29.440 Just to fucking like as a,

01:27:30.720 as a limited hangout and to basically get you thinking about something else.

01:27:34.040 Yeah.

01:27:34.180 The fact is they are,

01:27:35.920 what I think is,

01:27:36.940 is that like the FBI has seized the evidence that these guys had for whatever means that they,

01:27:43.440 for,

01:27:43.460 for Mossad,

01:27:44.600 for M16,

01:27:45.900 whatever that,

01:27:46.420 whatever it is.

01:27:47.020 They did any same thing.

01:27:48.460 Okay.

01:27:49.160 Lucky for these guys,

01:27:51.040 looking for the FBI,

01:27:52.220 these guys were keeping evidence and blackmail,

01:27:55.500 uh,

01:27:55.820 ops on these guys.

01:27:57.060 They have all the,

01:27:58.560 the evidence now they can use it now.

01:28:01.680 Okay.

01:28:01.880 So what I'm saying is like,

01:28:02.660 like,

01:28:02.880 like,

01:28:03.160 like,

01:28:03.520 like,

01:28:03.820 like,

01:28:04.100 like Epstein's dead now,

01:28:05.840 maybe.

01:28:06.920 Uh,

01:28:07.320 uh,

01:28:08.280 but like the FBI now is like,

01:28:11.160 has,

01:28:11.560 has in their fucking palm of their hand,

01:28:13.200 all the evidence and leverage they need to basically have those players control whatever,

01:28:18.940 to control them in any way that they want.

01:28:21.000 That's exactly right.

01:28:21.960 And that's the first time that our FBI has been,

01:28:24.800 has consolidated that information.

01:28:26.980 Yeah.

01:28:27.280 Because Obama made that happen.

01:28:29.320 But also because,

01:28:29.980 because,

01:28:30.200 because of like all these other operations that were like allowed to,

01:28:33.160 that were happening,

01:28:34.180 you know,

01:28:34.980 with or without our knowledge.

01:28:37.360 Right.

01:28:37.440 So all we needed to do was basically like fucking come in,

01:28:40.540 steal it,

01:28:41.200 take it,

01:28:41.520 take it out of their house,

01:28:43.080 seize it.

01:28:43.800 And then we just keep it under lock and key so we can control our media and the people,

01:28:47.860 the way that we want to,

01:28:48.960 and for whatever means that we want to.

01:28:50.860 So we can use,

01:28:51.620 so the blackmail operation persists,

01:28:53.440 but it's now in the hands of our FBI.

01:28:56.180 Well,

01:28:56.540 I would think it was always in the hands of our FBI.

01:28:57.760 Well,

01:28:57.840 the whole government is a crime organization.

01:29:00.200 No shit.

01:29:00.400 They trafficked,

01:29:02.400 they trafficked children.

01:29:03.940 The whole border thing was because they trafficked drugs,

01:29:07.780 guns,

01:29:08.160 and children and slaves over the border.

01:29:11.300 And that's how they pay for their black ops.

01:29:14.340 So of course,

01:29:15.120 every,

01:29:15.920 you know,

01:29:16.380 all the five eyes,

01:29:17.540 everything's going to get involved in that.

01:29:19.840 And who wrote,

01:29:21.180 I mean,

01:29:21.520 who really overthrew,

01:29:23.400 well,

01:29:23.760 that's,

01:29:24.260 I mean,

01:29:25.320 you look at our election in 2020 and,

01:29:29.240 you know,

01:29:29.820 it was MI6.

01:29:32.260 You think,

01:29:32.600 I thought it was,

01:29:33.520 you think it was MI6?

01:29:34.640 Yeah,

01:29:34.880 they do everything all over the world.

01:29:36.400 I thought it was in-house.

01:29:37.520 I thought it was in-house.

01:29:38.540 I thought CIA.

01:29:39.440 No,

01:29:39.580 they overthrow all governments because the,

01:29:43.080 well,

01:29:44.020 the UK government is a,

01:29:48.780 the front office for standard oil.

01:29:52.960 And that's all it's about.

01:29:55.420 Standard oil.

01:29:57.260 You know,

01:29:58.180 and they're in there in the Middle East to take the oil out from underneath.

01:30:02.200 But they don't need to do that anymore.

01:30:03.660 They don't need to do that anymore.

01:30:05.340 Well.

01:30:06.120 I mean,

01:30:06.380 we have all the oil here.

01:30:07.900 Well,

01:30:08.300 that's why they didn't want Trump.

01:30:10.620 Right,

01:30:11.100 right.

01:30:11.500 Because they make double money on,

01:30:13.420 you know,

01:30:14.000 war.

01:30:14.440 war to get the oil.

01:30:16.660 So they're getting paid twice.

01:30:18.180 Right.

01:30:18.900 And Trump's just like,

01:30:20.320 we're going to have oil here.

01:30:21.440 It's like,

01:30:21.960 we're not even getting any fucking slaves or,

01:30:24.420 you know,

01:30:25.380 booty off of stealing this oil off of people that we're not even going to be

01:30:30.980 able to steal it from.

01:30:32.160 So we should probably just use that oil for us.

01:30:35.300 Hello.

01:30:37.940 We will.

01:30:38.980 With Trump,

01:30:39.800 what we're going to do is become the number one exporter of oil to the world.

01:30:44.000 We were his first administration.

01:30:45.920 We were.

01:30:47.020 A lot of people don't know that.

01:30:48.500 Well,

01:30:48.740 that's what they hate.

01:30:49.900 But even,

01:30:50.380 I think,

01:30:50.780 and,

01:30:50.880 and,

01:30:51.220 and thank you,

01:30:52.940 Obama.

01:30:53.360 You discovered that fucking the reserve.

01:30:55.300 Yeah.

01:30:55.700 That's the one thing.

01:30:56.260 Good thing that he did.

01:30:57.160 It was on.

01:30:57.660 I guess,

01:30:58.540 I guess,

01:30:58.800 I guess that slipped through the cracks.

01:31:01.480 That's why he had to fucking get out of there.

01:31:03.520 Well,

01:31:05.180 even when they try,

01:31:06.480 I mean,

01:31:06.780 cause I believe in God.

01:31:07.960 So I'm like,

01:31:08.500 God's in control.

01:31:09.760 And even,

01:31:10.680 you know,

01:31:11.120 the men with,

01:31:13.280 huh?

01:31:13.680 I believe that's the case.

01:31:15.580 So even men's shady dealings and all the shit they do,

01:31:19.280 all the shit Obama did,

01:31:20.580 all the shit the USAID did,

01:31:24.940 all,

01:31:25.500 all of the project blue and all the other BLM yanks.

01:31:29.500 You guys can get Mike Benz,

01:31:30.900 right?

01:31:31.240 They used on us.

01:31:32.660 Yeah.

01:31:32.960 It works for the good,

01:31:34.620 no matter.

01:31:35.380 They don't think so.

01:31:37.480 They think they're so damn smart,

01:31:39.420 but it works towards the common good and they can't do anything to stop that.

01:31:43.880 they have,

01:31:44.320 they,

01:31:44.680 the,

01:31:45.740 the,

01:31:46.040 the,

01:31:46.320 the,

01:31:46.740 what they've been trying to do is been to demote.

01:31:50.120 U S dollar to short the dollar to basically make,

01:31:53.020 make the U S not the,

01:31:54.140 the,

01:31:54.380 the,

01:31:54.620 the first,

01:31:55.320 uh,

01:31:55.620 the,

01:31:55.900 the,

01:31:56.280 the superpower of the world.

01:31:58.640 No.

01:31:59.040 Why?

01:31:59.520 Because,

01:32:00.020 because the real conspiracy is the U S cannot be the world power because

01:32:06.260 they're evil because they have women's rights.

01:32:09.320 And because,

01:32:10.320 well,

01:32:10.420 that's my bottom line.

01:32:11.860 I think that like they,

01:32:13.740 if the,

01:32:14.740 I think that like the United States was,

01:32:16.920 is a rogue nation.

01:32:18.740 Uh,

01:32:19.260 it was,

01:32:20.080 it was started off as being sort of like,

01:32:22.240 just like a bunch of bandits that basically like,

01:32:25.620 you know,

01:32:25.840 like made their own rules and like whoever got here first,

01:32:28.100 sort of like,

01:32:28.580 you know,

01:32:28.780 like,

01:32:29.340 you know,

01:32:29.720 they're kind of like the,

01:32:30.500 some,

01:32:30.800 the most,

01:32:31.360 the craftiest of the,

01:32:32.580 of the thugs,

01:32:33.600 I would say from Europe,

01:32:34.900 I would say.

01:32:35.760 And,

01:32:36.260 and,

01:32:36.460 and,

01:32:36.580 and that's what they,

01:32:37.580 should we get out of here?

01:32:39.080 No,

01:32:39.300 I burped.

01:32:39.780 Sorry.

01:32:40.000 I'm sorry.

01:32:40.320 Sorry.

01:32:41.100 Um,

01:32:42.020 and,

01:32:42.320 and,

01:32:42.520 but for whatever,

01:32:43.380 and so it's really,

01:32:44.220 really what it,

01:32:45.100 what it really was,

01:32:45.780 was like a criminal front to begin with.

01:32:48.060 Always.

01:32:48.760 Always was the country second,

01:32:51.600 the country,

01:32:52.460 like,

01:32:52.660 you know,

01:32:52.840 like,

01:32:53.000 like the,

01:32:53.380 the standard of living being,

01:32:55.360 like,

01:32:55.700 uh,

01:32:56.780 coming,

01:32:57.120 coming up here was a sort of like a,

01:32:58.820 just a means to an end for the,

01:33:00.500 for them to basically become a military,

01:33:03.240 uh,

01:33:04.760 powerhouse that basically sells wars to the rest of the world.

01:33:08.480 And that's what we're,

01:33:09.740 that's what we mainly are.

01:33:11.280 We're like,

01:33:11.600 we like our government.

01:33:13.160 Our number one export is war,

01:33:14.880 but Trump changes all that.

01:33:16.720 No,

01:33:17.000 I know.

01:33:17.640 That's what I love about it.

01:33:18.720 This place is like,

01:33:19.320 is that like this place actually like,

01:33:21.360 like it actually manages to,

01:33:24.200 uh,

01:33:25.540 to exceed its expectations,

01:33:27.020 exceed,

01:33:27.360 exceed,

01:33:28.240 uh,

01:33:28.700 expectations.

01:33:30.280 Um,

01:33:31.100 what place?

01:33:31.900 What place?

01:33:33.800 America.

01:33:34.160 America.

01:33:34.740 Yeah.

01:33:34.840 Oh yeah.

01:33:35.320 The United States.

01:33:36.340 And it all works for good.

01:33:37.920 Even if they intend it for bad,

01:33:39.920 it'll be changed.

01:33:41.260 The rest of the world thinks so too.

01:33:42.140 The rest of the world looks at,

01:33:43.200 looks at us as like to see what's going to happen in their own country,

01:33:47.620 like five years down the line or 10 years down the line.

01:33:50.940 You can't let that down.

01:33:52.200 No.

01:33:52.900 America is the only thing that stands in the way of,

01:33:55.500 uh,

01:33:55.920 you know,

01:33:56.300 the globalist Nazi world order.

01:33:59.240 I can't stand W.

01:34:00.740 W.

01:34:00.820 W.

01:34:00.840 W.

01:34:00.880 W.

01:34:01.340 Schwab.

01:34:03.300 W.

01:34:03.780 H.

01:34:03.920 O.

01:34:04.500 Yeah.

01:34:05.120 The U.

01:34:05.360 N.

01:34:05.880 COVID was the worst thing that ever happened.

01:34:08.620 In my view,

01:34:09.260 the most disgusting thing.

01:34:10.820 I loved it.

01:34:11.760 I thought it was like the great awakening.

01:34:13.720 And people used to think we were crazy.

01:34:15.380 They forced us into our homes.

01:34:16.580 Not thinking that we were going to figure some shit out.

01:34:20.140 Yeah.

01:34:20.340 Talk to each other and get off the fucking news.

01:34:22.800 I mean,

01:34:23.140 I mean,

01:34:23.460 they just,

01:34:24.080 they,

01:34:24.160 but they,

01:34:24.980 they just,

01:34:25.860 they woke us up.

01:34:27.500 It's the same thing with,

01:34:28.380 it worked for good.

01:34:29.540 Yeah.

01:34:29.800 It always works for good.

01:34:30.780 That's the title of this episode.

01:34:32.000 I like that.

01:34:32.100 But we need to figure out how to brainwash people back.

01:34:36.900 Yeah.

01:34:37.900 We'll get there.

01:34:38.580 That's what podcasting is.

01:34:39.940 That's what we're doing.

01:34:40.640 Let's brainwash them.

01:34:42.060 Let's do,

01:34:42.660 let's pull it.

01:34:43.140 Let's brainwash them into being daring to be creative and,

01:34:47.480 and create good music.

01:34:50.060 Yeah.

01:34:50.300 And to preserve,

01:34:51.020 and preserve,

01:34:51.620 and preserve freedom of speech and all that kind of,

01:34:53.820 all you need to do is brainwash them.

01:34:55.300 You just need to,

01:34:55.840 you need to make it,

01:34:56.460 make it,

01:34:56.740 give them a,

01:34:57.280 or blackmail them into it.

01:34:58.580 So like,

01:34:58.960 they basically like,

01:34:59.880 make them an offer they can't refuse.

01:35:01.520 Get them on paper.

01:35:02.380 That's exactly what needs to happen.

01:35:03.900 The only reason the Democrats did is because they didn't do,

01:35:06.680 they felt like there was a,

01:35:08.840 they had a better chance of,

01:35:10.140 of being,

01:35:11.660 you know,

01:35:12.100 of,

01:35:12.680 of,

01:35:13.060 of keeping their power.

01:35:14.440 Well,

01:35:14.980 they thought they could stimulate everybody's lower chakras for power.

01:35:19.040 Yeah.

01:35:19.500 But it's only because,

01:35:20.520 only because,

01:35:21.140 only what they didn't figure out is that some of us,

01:35:24.560 we were talking about Anons,

01:35:26.600 but some of us like to,

01:35:29.000 stimulate people's good instincts for power.

01:35:33.900 Well,

01:35:34.120 yeah.

01:35:34.320 I mean,

01:35:34.480 I think that like they,

01:35:35.740 they underestimated conservatives.

01:35:37.020 They thought that they would never,

01:35:38.560 they would never ever have a chance.

01:35:41.740 And so they,

01:35:42.360 they,

01:35:42.580 they hedged their bets on doing what,

01:35:46.160 standing by and letting the,

01:35:47.560 the,

01:35:47.980 the,

01:35:48.900 the,

01:35:49.340 the sort of like,

01:35:50.180 you know,

01:35:50.560 the,

01:35:50.760 the,

01:35:51.100 the color revolution that was artificially paid for and stimulated by,

01:35:56.800 by,

01:35:57.360 we know who.

01:35:58.120 By the KGB in Qatar.

01:36:00.140 And,

01:36:00.480 and CIA and the FBI and the fucking,

01:36:03.320 and everybody else in the fucking government and all that kind of stuff.

01:36:05.680 All the intelligence communities around the world.

01:36:06.300 Yeah.

01:36:06.740 And the judges and the prosecutors,

01:36:08.320 blah,

01:36:08.460 blah,

01:36:08.580 blah.

01:36:09.140 All of it.

01:36:09.800 And the,

01:36:10.060 the media.

01:36:11.120 All the media.

01:36:11.900 Let's just cut to the chase.

01:36:13.160 All the pedophiles.

01:36:14.280 Yeah.

01:36:14.580 The worst people on the planet.

01:36:16.120 They're in a confederacy.

01:36:17.620 The confederacy of pedophiles.

01:36:18.540 Like what happens?

01:36:19.340 The confederacy of dunces.

01:36:23.060 Well,

01:36:23.440 you had a good point and we do have to wrap up,

01:36:25.500 but you had a really good point when we were outside earlier.

01:36:27.460 I wanted to get this on the air.

01:36:28.640 When we were talking about cancel culture and you said,

01:36:30.960 it's not real.

01:36:31.660 It's just a bunch of people on,

01:36:32.760 I mean,

01:36:32.940 I'm paraphrasing.

01:36:33.640 I'll let you explain it,

01:36:34.320 but the people,

01:36:35.380 the groundswell on Twitter didn't really work.

01:36:37.100 It was funded by the government.

01:36:39.680 Yeah.

01:36:40.120 It's still funded by the government.

01:36:41.240 They would single out a person like you or my mother.

01:36:43.740 And then the Twitter people were just for the front office or whatever you said.

01:36:46.340 They're not real people,

01:36:47.220 by the way.

01:36:47.700 They're,

01:36:47.800 they're,

01:36:48.140 they're complete bot swarms and they're,

01:36:50.320 they're basically,

01:36:51.320 we got,

01:36:52.200 we got,

01:36:52.700 they're obese women in Nebraska.

01:36:54.960 Some of them are,

01:36:55.840 but I think most,

01:36:56.880 most of them,

01:36:57.440 anytime I,

01:36:58.100 anytime I say anything on Twitter,

01:36:59.700 on,

01:37:00.200 on,

01:37:00.380 and I've been,

01:37:01.140 I've been inciting.

01:37:02.040 It's bots.

01:37:02.780 I've been,

01:37:03.360 I've been,

01:37:03.680 I've been getting them to basically like bite every single time.

01:37:07.220 Like this week,

01:37:07.760 I've just been like,

01:37:09.140 am I canceled or what?

01:37:10.760 Like,

01:37:11.120 I'm just saying the same thing over and over again,

01:37:13.820 having them hate,

01:37:15.180 hate me.

01:37:15.920 And they're falling for it every time.

01:37:17.800 I mean,

01:37:17.980 like,

01:37:18.100 like basically like,

01:37:18.840 that's what Trump does,

01:37:19.680 but like,

01:37:20.120 it's not even them.

01:37:21.200 It's,

01:37:21.480 it's,

01:37:21.820 it's,

01:37:22.620 it's where I'm in a box.

01:37:24.420 I got put in a box by some person that worked at Twitter when it was Twitter.

01:37:30.980 It was forgotten about when,

01:37:32.880 once Elon took over,

01:37:34.160 he bought it,

01:37:34.740 he bought the company,

01:37:35.360 probably fired the guy that fucking put me in the box.

01:37:37.500 The point is,

01:37:38.080 is that like,

01:37:38.740 I'm still in the box.

01:37:40.820 Cancel culture might be over,

01:37:42.660 but as far as the,

01:37:44.460 the optics online are concerned,

01:37:48.220 I'm still in the grotto.

01:37:49.680 I'm still basically like nobody,

01:37:51.120 and nobody knows that I exist because anytime I say anything,

01:37:55.860 there's just a bunch of fake accounts that have anime profiles that basically just,

01:38:01.040 just swarm me.

01:38:03.160 And,

01:38:03.260 and,

01:38:03.560 and this is just to basically keep me,

01:38:06.500 keep me silent.

01:38:07.760 But these are algorithms that basically just already,

01:38:09.820 they,

01:38:09.860 they,

01:38:10.980 they,

01:38:11.220 they,

01:38:11.500 they,

01:38:11.520 they hear the word,

01:38:12.300 can't they see the word cancel culture.

01:38:13.860 And I'm basically like,

01:38:15.360 I'm sorry.

01:38:16.100 So,

01:38:16.460 so I need to,

01:38:17.020 you need to write a great punk,

01:38:19.180 you need to write a great punk type song to take them down.

01:38:24.960 I mean,

01:38:25.340 I wrote the song canceled,

01:38:26.980 but they're,

01:38:29.440 they're,

01:38:29.760 they're never going to let me,

01:38:30.800 they're never going to let anybody hear it.

01:38:32.400 I'm canceled by the,

01:38:34.020 I'm,

01:38:34.320 it goes,

01:38:35.020 I'm canceled in the city.

01:38:36.840 I live.

01:38:37.660 Guess what I did.

01:38:39.320 Uh,

01:38:39.620 uh,

01:38:39.960 uh,

01:38:40.520 I,

01:38:40.920 I,

01:38:41.220 I,

01:38:41.780 I woke up to,

01:38:43.040 I woke up to Washington,

01:38:46.640 DC.

01:38:47.140 They,

01:38:47.580 they,

01:38:47.900 they,

01:38:48.300 they,

01:38:48.400 they crashed all the doors and windows and something without a key.

01:38:51.700 And then I woke up from my nap and turned on my TV.

01:38:55.380 I saw all these pictures and articles and Tucker Carlson on me.

01:38:58.520 And I'm canceled in the city,

01:39:01.700 but no,

01:39:02.000 but nobody,

01:39:02.420 nobody,

01:39:02.980 I'm,

01:39:03.260 I'm non-entity.

01:39:05.240 Like if I remind the world that I exist,

01:39:06.980 I get flogged.

01:39:07.680 Okay.

01:39:07.780 So,

01:39:08.320 so,

01:39:08.760 so,

01:39:08.940 so,

01:39:09.140 and,

01:39:09.320 and I'm seen as,

01:39:10.100 and they also me to me is like right afterwards,

01:39:13.280 just to like hammer the nail in the coffin,

01:39:15.140 you know,

01:39:15.640 it was,

01:39:15.960 but it's all,

01:39:16.480 it's all completely.

01:39:18.080 And the,

01:39:18.400 the world is still,

01:39:19.460 you know,

01:39:19.880 the,

01:39:20.000 the Pixies fired their bass player of 10 years.

01:39:25.720 They didn't fire her.

01:39:26.640 They ghosted her.

01:39:27.540 After she put an appreciation post for me on,

01:39:31.760 on,

01:39:32.100 on Instagram,

01:39:32.680 on Instagram,

01:39:33.280 everybody knows it.

01:39:34.320 They don't come out and say it.

01:39:35.640 Right.

01:39:36.140 But they don't even admit,

01:39:37.720 nobody admits that cancel culture exists.

01:39:39.980 Right.

01:39:40.480 But you're saying,

01:39:41.160 it's a state of mind.

01:39:41.740 You're saying it's government funding.

01:39:43.520 I'm saying,

01:39:43.840 I'm saying,

01:39:44.120 I'm saying it's,

01:39:44.620 it's not,

01:39:45.180 the people do not have the power to cancel anybody.

01:39:48.800 Yeah.

01:39:48.980 This is fascinating.

01:39:49.540 They,

01:39:49.820 they,

01:39:50.020 they just,

01:39:50.540 they think that they do because that's what the government flatters them to think.

01:39:54.780 Because they're the weakest people ever.

01:39:56.120 And they,

01:39:56.500 they want them to think that they have a coalition.

01:39:58.160 They have a group that could basically like cancel.

01:40:01.040 But really what it is,

01:40:02.080 is like the government cancels you through the media and says,

01:40:06.220 this person is a okay to go and bully and harass and terrorize.

01:40:12.500 That's exactly right.

01:40:13.380 And that's what they do because they know that they have government protection.

01:40:16.580 Okay.

01:40:16.660 That's exactly right.

01:40:17.800 That's all it is.

01:40:18.520 But the canceling is,

01:40:19.480 is,

01:40:19.740 is,

01:40:20.120 is,

01:40:20.400 is from the back.

01:40:21.620 It's,

01:40:21.760 it's already happened before it gets to the people.

01:40:24.200 Yeah.

01:40:24.260 It's not a popular.

01:40:25.540 There's no such thing as cancellation.

01:40:27.220 It's just,

01:40:27.600 it's just the idea of it is to flatter people that have no power.

01:40:32.640 Fucking right.

01:40:33.480 That's what it is.

01:40:34.120 How smart is that?

01:40:34.960 Exactly.

01:40:35.920 And so,

01:40:36.600 so,

01:40:37.020 so I think that like,

01:40:38.400 you know,

01:40:38.760 whatever has to happen with me has to happen at a much more,

01:40:41.860 uh,

01:40:43.860 at,

01:40:44.640 at a,

01:40:45.060 at a higher level,

01:40:46.080 which I don't know who's in charge.

01:40:48.180 Cash Patel is not going to be like in charge of the music industry.

01:40:50.720 He's not going to be like fucking like telling,

01:40:52.760 uh,

01:40:53.060 uh,

01:40:53.800 uh,

01:40:54.460 you know,

01:40:55.100 uh,

01:40:56.580 you know,

01:40:57.060 uh,

01:40:57.360 fucking,

01:40:57.820 uh,

01:40:58.880 I don't know what are some companies.

01:41:00.480 You're not going to tell universal to like,

01:41:01.960 you know,

01:41:02.440 uncancel artists.

01:41:03.560 I mean,

01:41:03.700 they can't,

01:41:04.520 but I mean,

01:41:04.940 I'm saying,

01:41:05.420 I'm saying they're,

01:41:06.900 they're really just,

01:41:07.840 I think that they really fucked up and they,

01:41:10.440 and,

01:41:10.500 and my existence is,

01:41:12.340 is a reminder that they fucked up.

01:41:14.500 They can't reverse it because that would be tacit admission that they did it in the first place.

01:41:19.620 That's exactly right.

01:41:20.660 So,

01:41:20.740 so,

01:41:20.800 so they're,

01:41:21.480 they,

01:41:21.660 they see it as a liability.

01:41:23.040 They're trying to,

01:41:24.060 I'm,

01:41:24.540 I'm basically persona non grata.

01:41:25.880 I'm never going to be allowed back in.

01:41:27.620 Cancel culture for me exists in perpetuity.

01:41:31.520 For everybody else,

01:41:32.600 it might,

01:41:33.040 it might be just a,

01:41:33.980 you know,

01:41:34.300 it might've just been like a fad from a couple of years ago.

01:41:37.500 No,

01:41:37.640 I think you're right.

01:41:38.300 I think it's USAID funded.

01:41:39.640 What do you think of all these,

01:41:40.120 um,

01:41:40.960 young kids in the,

01:41:43.920 uh,

01:41:44.980 rap world,

01:41:45.900 what they,

01:41:46.400 what they've done to them?

01:41:47.920 well,

01:41:48.740 the rap world,

01:41:49.460 I think,

01:41:50.320 uh,

01:41:51.140 I think the rap world got a lot of its,

01:41:54.260 um,

01:41:55.280 a lot of its money from,

01:41:56.660 from the government,

01:41:58.860 the DAI basically kind of thing.

01:42:01.020 I think that,

01:42:01.680 I think the,

01:42:02.840 that,

01:42:03.760 they're the,

01:42:06.260 the people who got the,

01:42:07.520 the most recent handout,

01:42:09.020 millions of dollars to these grifters,

01:42:11.880 you know,

01:42:12.340 just like,

01:42:13.580 you know,

01:42:13.860 community pillars and all that kind of stuff.

01:42:19.040 Uh,

01:42:19.360 I think that those people are like,

01:42:20.660 you know,

01:42:20.920 they probably like are sitting on their money.

01:42:22.700 They're basically like,

01:42:23.320 you know,

01:42:23.560 like are,

01:42:24.260 are popular and they're trying to figure out how to fucking keep it now.

01:42:28.320 What do they,

01:42:28.900 what do they have to do?

01:42:29.560 What kind of grift do they have to like set up?

01:42:31.320 They have to like,

01:42:31.720 like they have to like change shit,

01:42:34.100 can't change course.

01:42:34.880 They have to start like,

01:42:36.040 you probably think that they have to probably get into indie music or something like that.

01:42:39.720 I don't know.

01:42:40.360 I mean,

01:42:40.700 they probably have to like,

01:42:41.460 if they're,

01:42:42.140 if they're on the take,

01:42:43.000 you know,

01:42:43.240 they're probably trying to figure it out.

01:42:44.800 Yeah.

01:42:45.120 But like,

01:42:45.480 I think that like,

01:42:46.040 we're not,

01:42:46.340 we're still like in the afterglow of,

01:42:49.420 of all that.

01:42:49.860 So they don't really realize it yet.

01:42:51.200 Like how fucked they are.

01:42:53.080 They don't even know they lost.

01:42:54.000 They don't even know that they lost.

01:42:54.820 They don't understand why they did anyway.

01:42:56.480 No.

01:42:56.640 What do you think is going to be the next musical thing?

01:42:59.400 There's,

01:42:59.720 I don't,

01:43:00.000 I don't know because,

01:43:00.860 because culture has been completely subsumed with politics and like they,

01:43:04.800 they,

01:43:05.120 there's nothing.

01:43:06.940 There's nothing.

01:43:08.760 I,

01:43:08.980 I mean,

01:43:09.400 I,

01:43:09.580 I,

01:43:10.360 I don't think there's going to be a next thing.

01:43:14.360 I think we have to fucking burn it down.

01:43:16.800 No,

01:43:17.100 no,

01:43:17.340 no,

01:43:17.560 no.

01:43:17.860 We have to just bring it back to life.

01:43:20.880 Keep the dead alive.

01:43:22.560 Keep the grateful dead alive.

01:43:24.380 Keep it,

01:43:24.840 keep the past.

01:43:26.480 Keep it going.

01:43:27.160 It wasn't that fucked up.

01:43:28.740 This country was fucking okay.

01:43:30.440 Yeah.

01:43:30.640 It wasn't perfect,

01:43:31.840 but it was better.

01:43:33.060 Yeah.

01:43:33.200 It was good.

01:43:33.640 My life was good,

01:43:34.580 dude.

01:43:34.800 Like we had great,

01:43:36.620 I think the inner,

01:43:37.360 this is what I think.

01:43:37.940 I think the internet is,

01:43:40.140 the biggest sort of like weapon that they,

01:43:42.500 that they,

01:43:43.020 that they,

01:43:43.500 and I think if Donald Trump really wanted to look for the longevity of this country,

01:43:48.400 they would pay people to not use the internet.

01:43:52.060 I'm seriously,

01:43:53.040 like,

01:43:53.140 like,

01:43:53.320 like,

01:43:53.380 like they should like do a program to make sure that like it's voluntary thing and

01:43:56.780 that it's not like a requirement to be online,

01:44:00.080 to,

01:44:00.580 to live your life and,

01:44:02.100 and,

01:44:02.340 and make it a voluntary thing.

01:44:03.800 Make it something,

01:44:04.420 make it akin to its own industry that if you want to dabble in,

01:44:09.140 if you want to go in there,

01:44:10.040 it's a black market more or less,

01:44:11.440 but it's a place where people get blackmailed.

01:44:13.340 Go in at your own peril.

01:44:15.780 You want to fucking go do anonymous shit?

01:44:18.060 You want to go,

01:44:19.240 you want to shop on Amazon?

01:44:20.920 You want to like not,

01:44:22.720 not shop at Walmart?

01:44:24.360 You know,

01:44:24.520 okay,

01:44:24.680 okay,

01:44:24.940 go ahead.

01:44:26.020 Go ahead.

01:44:26.560 But like,

01:44:27.160 there's still ma and pa stores.

01:44:28.540 There's still local stuff.

01:44:30.200 The infrastructure is still here.

01:44:31.340 We didn't need the internet for that.

01:44:32.760 We still have toilets working.

01:44:33.760 We still have utilities.

01:44:34.820 Right.

01:44:34.980 We don't need it.

01:44:35.800 We don't need to get everything on the fucking grid.

01:44:38.120 Don't fucking do that.

01:44:39.420 Right.

01:44:39.840 We need to ensure that like everything is fine.

01:44:42.340 Like we just don't need to fucking have the,

01:44:44.040 the internet capture our minds and make,

01:44:46.740 make,

01:44:47.040 make,

01:44:47.300 make itself with the last territory that needs to be conquered.

01:44:50.120 Cause it's worldwide.

01:44:51.500 That's right.

01:44:52.200 It's worldwide.

01:44:53.840 Well,

01:44:54.340 here's the creativity and freedom,

01:44:56.200 right?

01:44:56.800 Yes.

01:44:57.340 And here's the Trump.

01:44:58.860 Here's some making America great again.

01:45:01.620 Here's the fucking pay me,

01:45:03.160 pay me for nothing on the internet.

01:45:04.880 here's the fucking,

01:45:06.400 a bunch of Democrats will appreciate it.

01:45:07.980 What's the word?

01:45:11.000 Return to normalcy.

01:45:12.880 No,

01:45:13.400 it's like,

01:45:14.860 make Ariel gay again.

01:45:18.500 It's like,

01:45:19.320 we have to,

01:45:20.300 um,

01:45:21.020 mock.

01:45:22.320 Yeah.

01:45:23.180 We have to mock like fuck.

01:45:24.800 You got to start making some songs that mock.

01:45:28.100 No,

01:45:28.260 he does.

01:45:28.980 Well,

01:45:29.200 you know,

01:45:29.580 but I'm a lover,

01:45:30.720 dude.

01:45:30.920 I'm a,

01:45:31.240 I'm a soft,

01:45:31.940 I'm all about softness and about loving stuff like that.

01:45:34.420 I'm not a hater.

01:45:35.300 You are gay,

01:45:35.840 man.

01:45:36.040 That's your,

01:45:36.580 you don't need me.

01:45:37.040 I brought it,

01:45:38.200 I brought gay into fucking fashion,

01:45:39.500 dude.

01:45:40.600 But I mean,

01:45:41.320 seriously,

01:45:42.140 what do you think we should do?

01:45:43.800 No,

01:45:43.960 we just have to be,

01:45:44.620 we have to do,

01:45:45.680 we have to fucking go back.

01:45:47.160 Get the prosecutors out,

01:45:49.060 out.

01:45:50.340 Yeah.

01:45:50.960 The prosecutors are not really prosecutors.

01:45:54.620 We need to declare them terrorists.

01:45:56.400 I think that Donald Trump.

01:45:57.320 I love that.

01:45:57.700 I think Donald Trump should actually,

01:46:00.020 what I would do is if I was him,

01:46:02.160 I would declare the terror,

01:46:04.280 the,

01:46:04.560 the democratic party,

01:46:05.640 a terrorist organization.

01:46:06.820 Oh yeah,

01:46:07.320 they are.

01:46:07.640 And then,

01:46:07.980 and then I would give a week,

01:46:10.600 like a week where like he can,

01:46:12.800 you can basically leave the democratic party.

01:46:15.940 Or if you stay in the democratic party,

01:46:18.960 you just,

01:46:19.840 you're a terrorist.

01:46:20.580 You,

01:46:20.760 you,

01:46:21.080 you take your chances.

01:46:22.660 And then once that week passes and everybody that stayed in the fucking democratic party,

01:46:27.060 kill them,

01:46:28.620 just fucking arrest them,

01:46:29.820 arrest the fuck out of them.

01:46:30.580 And,

01:46:30.940 and cause they're a terrorist organization.

01:46:32.700 And then I,

01:46:34.460 if I was Donald Trump,

01:46:35.400 I would remake,

01:46:37.380 build up the democratic party from the scratch and make it dignified again and make it good.

01:46:43.040 Okay.

01:46:43.240 That's what I think.

01:46:44.780 Exactly.

01:46:45.300 We are so on the same page.

01:46:47.340 You are,

01:46:47.900 you are my spirit animal.

01:46:49.180 Like I,

01:46:49.340 that's what I say,

01:46:49.920 man.

01:46:50.000 Like I,

01:46:50.320 I,

01:46:50.500 we,

01:46:50.960 we are the same person.

01:46:51.740 Like,

01:46:52.420 I love that.

01:46:54.220 You said when people ask you,

01:46:56.060 what do they say?

01:46:57.900 And you say,

01:46:58.620 I'm basically Roseanne.

01:46:59.560 I just say Roseanne.

01:47:00.320 I say Roseanne.

01:47:00.940 What,

01:47:01.300 what,

01:47:01.520 what are your politics?

01:47:02.540 I say Roseanne.

01:47:05.340 Well,

01:47:06.000 you know,

01:47:06.940 it's wonderful to meet a kindred,

01:47:09.300 a kindred.

01:47:10.880 It's a dream come true.

01:47:12.180 Kindred spirit.

01:47:12.980 It's a dream come true for me.

01:47:14.100 And it's a dream come true for Devin.

01:47:15.420 I know that much.

01:47:17.040 You're amazing.

01:47:17.500 Thank you very much.

01:47:18.420 Thank you.

01:47:18.860 Thank you.

01:47:18.980 What a wonderful,

01:47:19.840 uh,

01:47:20.400 experience it was to sit and talk with you and,

01:47:23.880 uh,

01:47:24.300 go deep with you.

01:47:25.680 And I hope,

01:47:27.300 you know,

01:47:30.340 I'm just going to say,

01:47:31.380 I know true.

01:47:32.660 I know that truth wins out.

01:47:35.840 Yeah.

01:47:36.740 So fuck you.

01:47:38.100 So you see what pages is running.

01:47:42.320 Can you believe how beautiful my voice is?

01:47:45.740 Yeah.

01:47:46.220 Why don't you do a song?

01:47:47.040 We did a,

01:47:47.740 Tom McDonald did a song with her.

01:47:49.160 You should do one with my mother.

01:47:50.760 What do you think?

01:47:51.400 We're fucking living in.

01:47:52.500 Start a band.

01:47:53.240 Start a band.

01:47:53.760 She had a band.

01:47:54.700 I want to.

01:47:55.680 Oh,

01:47:56.020 I was going to tell you the name of my band.

01:47:58.060 It was Roseanne and the Dicks.

01:48:00.580 And it was D-X-X-X.

01:48:03.420 Triple X.

01:48:04.260 Awesome.

01:48:04.580 Awesome.

01:48:08.400 Everyone's fucking wrong.

01:48:11.580 Couldn't be all wrong.

01:48:15.060 Everyone's fucking wrong.

01:48:17.700 Yeah.

01:48:19.540 Oh.

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01:48:20.980 Canada.

01:48:23.260 It's time for more us.

01:48:25.480 Because we're more than just a place on a map.

01:48:28.500 We're an attitude.

01:48:29.440 One with more empathy than ego.

01:48:31.700 More unity than division.

01:48:33.340 More grit.

01:48:34.080 Go.

01:48:34.440 And we got this.

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01:48:42.360 the more we are the true north.

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01:48:53.920 Yeah?

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01:48:56.660 Yes.

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The Roseanne Barr Podcast - March 21, 2025

Cancelled and Uncaged with Ariel Pink ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #091

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