The Roseanne Barr Podcast - June 21, 2024


Danger Close with Patrick Byrne Part 1 | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #053


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 58 minutes

Words per Minute

176.66397

Word Count

21,011

Sentence Count

1,741

Misogynist Sentences

67

Hate Speech Sentences

37


Summary

Comedian and author Patrick Byrne joins Roseanne to discuss his new book, Danger Close, and how he became one of the most influential people in the world. He also talks about how he went from an altar boy to becoming one of America s most powerful men, and why he s the perfect person to talk to about what he s been up to the past 40 years of his life. He also shares the story of how he built a company from the ground up, and what it took him to become the richest man in the history of the world, and how it s a story you don t want to miss! Thanks to our sponsor, Fidelity International, for sponsoring this episode of The Roseanne Barr Podcast. BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor. Free of charge. BetmGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Light Up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile and get 50 gigs to use in Canada, the US, the U.S., and Mexico for just $35 a month for 18 months. Plus get a one-time gift of 5 gigs of Rome Beyond Data, Beyond Data only, for $35 + to wager Ontario only. Please play responsibly! BetmoGMGMGM - Betmo GMGM Casino - $1919+ to Wager Ontario - $99.99, $19.95, Betmo MGM - $35, $99,99, and $19,99 + $99 + toWager Ontario, $95,99.00, $5,99 plus $35.99 + 5Gig, $29.00 + $5GOTBOOT, $25,99 & $5GBOTTO, $50,99 to use for 18 Months, $24,99 and $5BOTWager, $26,99 Plus, $27,99 - $29,999 + $19 + $24 BOTWARD, & $25BOTBOTOTOT, & FREE of Charge? & more! Roseanne joins me on the show to talk about his life story, his journey, his early life, how he got into the game, what he did in the early days of his career, and his plans for the future.


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00:01:12.980 Greetings, earthlings and humans and others, as well as members of the animal kingdom who are
00:01:20.780 lulled into peace when they hear my voice. People send me videos of their animals sleeping
00:01:26.160 peacefully in front of my podcast because for once they have heard a voice of intelligence
00:01:32.520 piercing through this realm of bullshit. Welcome to the Roseanne Barr Podcast.
00:01:37.960 Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.
00:01:44.600 We've got another bu-b-bb-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-banger of a show today.
00:01:50.840 In the interest of letting people know what's really going on, which I am so committed to,
00:01:59.060 I'm all in on it because I think Americans should know what's been happening that they
00:02:07.560 don't know about because it's been kept from them.
00:02:10.480 I like to put the severed pieces together as Virginia Woolf said in her book Three Guineas.
00:02:17.160 The responsibility of the artist, the journalist, the writer, including the comedian is to put
00:02:22.740 the severed parts together into one conscious piece and that's what I like to do here on
00:02:29.620 this show.
00:02:30.620 And boy, do I have a great guest, you know, everybody talks about going down the rabbit
00:02:36.360 hole, you know, people that like to research on the internet, everybody talks about going
00:02:41.180 down the rabbit hole.
00:02:42.600 Well my guest today kind of is the rabbit hole and we'll discover that in this, the first
00:02:50.180 of several interviews, help me welcome Patrick Byrne.
00:02:55.180 Hi, Patrick.
00:02:56.180 Hello, Roseanne.
00:02:57.180 What an honor to be on your show again.
00:02:59.180 And what a perfect person to share this story with.
00:03:02.180 Well, I'm so excited.
00:03:04.180 I want everybody to have some background on you because, you know, everybody's like, oh,
00:03:08.380 he was the CEO of a great big, you know, company, which I did spend a lot of money on.
00:03:15.180 Overstock, right?
00:03:16.180 Right.
00:03:17.180 Think of all the money you saved.
00:03:19.180 I did save so much money, but that's just the aftermath of everything you've done in
00:03:26.180 your life.
00:03:27.180 And so I wanted to start out with you.
00:03:29.180 I really love this.
00:03:31.180 You as an altar boy, as a child, right?
00:03:36.180 Hard to believe.
00:03:37.180 Is that where the story of your adventurous life begins?
00:03:42.180 Well, I'm not quite sure.
00:03:43.180 You know, I wrote this book, Danger Close, so that other people, other big minds could.
00:03:49.180 And may I say that after watching you and getting to know you in December 2020, the first thing I have to tell people about you is how bright you are.
00:03:59.180 And how interesting it is that after Michael Flynn, the first big name who really understood the significance of this story is you, Roseanne.
00:04:09.180 So I really commend you.
00:04:10.180 It takes a lot of IQ to wrap your head around this story and digest it.
00:04:14.180 So thank you for doing me this honor.
00:04:17.180 So, yes, where did it start?
00:04:19.180 You tell me where it started.
00:04:20.180 I don't know.
00:04:21.180 I think it started with my mom mostly, but I'm not sure where it all started.
00:04:26.180 But, I mean, you, how did you, okay, let me just ask you this.
00:04:30.180 How did you end up in the halls of power?
00:04:33.180 What were the steps you took in the life you lived to end up in the very halls of the utmost power in the United States and the world?
00:04:42.180 Well, I got a lot of people in those halls quite angry at this moment.
00:04:47.180 Halls of power.
00:04:48.180 Well, I guess you would say I had a fantastic, as I said in my book, I have, my life has been a huge number of tailwinds.
00:04:56.180 My family lived this Horatio Alger dream.
00:04:59.180 So by the time I was in my late teens, my father had become a millionaire and so forth.
00:05:05.180 I had great education.
00:05:06.180 I got to know Mr. Buffett when I was 13.
00:05:09.180 So I just had great heroes and my mom especially.
00:05:12.180 So that was a big part of it.
00:05:14.180 But I grew up, I used to say as a teenager, I was raised, I majored in Catholic and I minored in Jew.
00:05:20.180 But after I got through my teenage years, I left and became kind of a seeker.
00:05:25.180 And that took me studying Buddhism and Taoism and Zen.
00:05:30.180 And eventually when I was in college, the Chinese language.
00:05:33.180 And I was over in China.
00:05:34.180 The first year they opened up to foreigners, to foreign Western kids.
00:05:38.180 I was over there for a year studying Chinese.
00:05:41.180 And that might be worth, these events really should be rooted.
00:05:45.180 Shall I start?
00:05:46.180 Do you know about that?
00:05:47.180 Do you remember me writing about my Chinese studies in Beijing?
00:05:51.180 Yeah.
00:05:52.180 Yeah.
00:05:53.180 I want to hear about that on this show.
00:05:55.180 Well, I was studying in Beijing, first the Chinese language.
00:05:58.180 I studied for a year at Dartmouth.
00:05:59.180 But then I was studying Chinese, then Chinese history and thought, including Maoism.
00:06:04.180 Well, I liked ancient philosophy, but including Marxism and Maoism, I was being exposed to.
00:06:09.180 It was very interesting.
00:06:11.180 And while I was there in China, this funny thing happened.
00:06:15.180 I had a French girlfriend for several months.
00:06:18.180 And so every day I spoke Chinese by day and French at night.
00:06:23.180 One night we were at a public place and this little Asian man came bounding up to me and
00:06:29.180 to us.
00:06:30.180 And we heard him speaking French and he spoke great French.
00:06:32.180 And, you know, anyway, he turned out to be kind of a general from Laos, from Laos, who
00:06:39.180 had once taken his country over in a coup.
00:06:42.180 And then the CIA had chased him out.
00:06:44.180 And he befriended me over a few dinners and then eventually asked me to get a letter
00:06:49.180 into the hands of the United States government.
00:06:51.180 And I thought about it and I said, well, it didn't seem too hard.
00:06:55.180 He was living in exile in China and the Chinese government was supporting him.
00:06:59.180 And he had a bunch of soldiers loyal to him in Laos, who knows what the geopolitics were,
00:07:04.180 but he was living kind of in seclusion in a state guest house in Beijing.
00:07:08.180 And after getting to know me, he asked me would I deliver a certain letter he had written.
00:07:12.180 I don't even know what was in the letter, but I thought about it.
00:07:15.180 I said, I can do that for you.
00:07:17.180 And I did it.
00:07:18.180 So that's 1983, October 1983 would probably be the first.
00:07:23.180 I think you're looking for that kind of a contact between me and Uncle Sam.
00:07:27.180 That's where I want to see the through line.
00:07:30.180 So you did do that.
00:07:32.180 I did do that.
00:07:34.180 And then we know who it was or any of that good stuff.
00:07:37.180 His name was Kong Le, K-O-N-G-L-E.
00:07:40.180 If you look him up, he took over his own country in I think it was about 1960, 61 or somewhere in there.
00:07:47.180 He saw what was coming.
00:07:48.180 The communist Vietnamese on one side, America on the other, were going to rip his country apart.
00:07:52.180 So he took over and he threw both sides out.
00:07:55.180 He threw the Patat Lao out.
00:07:57.180 He threw America and the CIA out.
00:08:00.180 And so he was this independent nationalist.
00:08:02.180 And then he got overthrown by a guy named Pudmin Ozevan some years later backed by the CIA.
00:08:07.180 So that was the guy.
00:08:08.180 His name is Kong Le.
00:08:09.180 He's dead now.
00:08:10.180 But the history books will show he was living in Beijing in 1983.
00:08:14.180 Anyway, I don't want to go down too many details you're not interested in.
00:08:18.180 What else would you like to know?
00:08:20.180 Well, isn't that all tied into the war in Vietnam, though?
00:08:24.180 Yeah, that was.
00:08:26.180 But how it's significant to me was that five years later, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs under Ronald Reagan when he was retiring, Jack Vesey, was asked by Ronald Reagan to reestablish peace with Vietnam.
00:08:44.180 And he sent me a message.
00:08:46.180 He knew about this letter I had delivered five years earlier to the United States government.
00:08:51.180 I just mean I took it to the embassy and found the right person to give it to and gave it to him.
00:08:55.180 That was it.
00:08:56.180 And but I heard the five years later, I heard from the chairman of the Joint Chiefs saying, would you come meet me?
00:09:03.180 And I spent a day with him.
00:09:04.180 And he said, look, my last mission in life for service to the country is to reestablish peace with Vietnam.
00:09:10.180 Would you be willing to assist me?
00:09:13.180 And he had and it had that there was no there were no diplomatic relations.
00:09:17.180 I was at Stanford recovering from cancer and studying sort of mathematical logic and computation theory.
00:09:24.180 How old were you?
00:09:26.180 How old were you then?
00:09:27.180 I was 23 and I got out of Dartmouth.
00:09:30.180 Yeah, I was in the hospital for a year after I was in the hospital for seven months after Dartmouth with cancer.
00:09:36.180 And actually, I had it three times in my 20s.
00:09:39.180 That was the first time I got out and I was at Stanford and I was doing development economics as well.
00:09:44.180 I spoke Chinese.
00:09:45.180 I spoke French.
00:09:46.180 I was kind of a logical rather than them using a government agency would take a whole bunch of lawyers and millions of dollars.
00:09:54.180 He found a grad student who was willing to go over the Vietnamese government would host me and they would show me.
00:10:00.180 I might give you more detail than you wanted to know.
00:10:02.180 Is there anything you wanted to know?
00:10:03.180 I don't want to.
00:10:04.180 No, no.
00:10:05.180 I love it.
00:10:06.180 Well, his discussions, Reagan had asked him to do this.
00:10:09.180 His name was General Jack Vesey.
00:10:11.180 And his discussions had reached the point that the Vietnamese, they had needed three or four trips over there with his counterpart, the foreign minister, Nguyen Ngô Tắc, a very famous guy from the Vietnam War.
00:10:23.180 And they had reached the point where the Vietnamese were saying, if you're serious about this, will you do something humanitarian for us to show you that this, show us this isn't just talk.
00:10:32.180 So he was saying to me, Bern, imagine you had a budget of $250,000 or $300,000.
00:10:38.180 Go over and see ways you could spend that in Vietnam that would do the most humanitarian good and buy us the most credit with them.
00:10:46.180 And then he had, he had, so all I had to do was go over and sort of study for a week or two, spent two weeks being shown different needs and came back and wrote a term paper with about 15 ideas on how you could spend $20,000 here, $30,000 there, and make a difference in a very, not just cosmetic, but a very visible, clear, quick difference for some, you know, several hundred people in each place.
00:11:10.180 So I had a bunch of these kind of entrepreneurial ideas.
00:11:13.180 Well, that's kind of the invention of micro finance.
00:11:16.180 Well, I knew the, I knew it's, this was around the time that the guy was doing that.
00:11:23.180 This was 1988.
00:11:24.180 The guy, Muhammad Yunus was just in the eighties getting going with that.
00:11:28.180 And I knew one of his disciples was my economics teacher.
00:11:31.180 And an important thing to note is because of this, Vietnam was at the time a Soviet client state.
00:11:37.180 So because I was, I was there on behalf of the U S government, even though there was no, there were no diplomatic, there was no embassy or diplomatic relations.
00:11:46.180 So one has to assume that the Soviet KGB was told by the Vietnamese that there's this American guy here doing this.
00:11:53.180 So because of that, I want to make clear, I've never worked for intelligence.
00:11:57.180 Although I continued to have this second career doing these kinds of favors when asked for the government, none of its intelligence.
00:12:05.180 I've never worked for the CIA.
00:12:06.180 My red line was I'll never have anything to do with the CIA.
00:12:09.180 But anytime you have something that can have some way where I can make some little contribution to peace, feel free to call.
00:12:16.180 And it's been the honor of my life that I got rarely on occasion.
00:12:21.180 I don't claim any big credit.
00:12:22.180 I had an opportunity on a number of occasions to step in and make some little nudge the cart of peace for it a bit.
00:12:29.180 And I never been married or had or anything.
00:12:31.180 This was kind of what my second life was, as opposed to a family.
00:12:35.180 I had my business entrepreneurship.
00:12:37.180 And then I did these things on the side when asked.
00:12:40.180 What do you think?
00:12:41.180 I mean, can I be nosy and say, was that a what was that like some kind of thing because you had survived cancer?
00:12:48.180 Was that a kind of a gratitude thing of giving back?
00:12:52.180 Yes, very much.
00:12:54.180 I really there was a long many long nights of the soul.
00:12:58.180 I had cancer and someone or I started revaluing all values, as Nietzsche said.
00:13:04.180 And really, the thing that comes out on top is if you can find opportunity, you know, one would be to be a great artist and entertain people like yourself.
00:13:13.180 And I know comedy is especially a hard way to do that.
00:13:16.180 But another way would be I realized if I can find some some way to serve humanity.
00:13:21.180 I was trying to think of what's what's worth going through what I'm going through when I was I was basically in a hospital for three years.
00:13:27.180 I kept and finally it all came down to those two ideas.
00:13:31.180 And I'm not any good at comedy.
00:13:33.180 So.
00:13:34.180 All right.
00:13:35.180 So, yeah, it was it was.
00:13:36.180 How is your answer?
00:13:38.180 How's your relationship with cancer right now?
00:13:41.180 Well, it's frankly, since you asked, it's been a I'm 61 and it's been 40 year end of life situation.
00:13:50.180 I've had 115 surgeries and I've stopped my heart 400 times.
00:13:57.180 So I've had 500 death trips.
00:13:59.180 Wow.
00:14:00.180 Do you remember any of them?
00:14:05.180 Oh, yeah.
00:14:06.180 Do you remember?
00:14:07.180 Really?
00:14:08.180 Well, out of twenty two thousand days on Earth, I've spent eight hundred of them in hospitals.
00:14:13.180 So hospitalization, I'm kind of a gourmet, a an aficionado, a aficionado of life.
00:14:19.180 Yeah.
00:14:20.180 Anyway.
00:14:21.180 So you you feel protective.
00:14:23.180 I would imagine.
00:14:24.180 I mean, if I was walking in your shoes, I would feel and I didn't have any children or those kind of things.
00:14:30.180 I would feel that I I was living.
00:14:35.180 I would I would give my life as a living legacy in the act of peace also because that would be your highest use.
00:14:45.180 Right.
00:14:46.180 That all those dark nights of the soul, you you would figure out my highest use.
00:14:50.180 What every time I have left is to be an instrument of peace in this horrible world.
00:14:57.180 You got it.
00:14:58.180 You sound like my mother.
00:14:59.180 I think my mom and dad probably when I was a kid that sort of the highest thing you can do in your life is be a peacemaker.
00:15:04.180 That really is a message from my mom.
00:15:07.180 And, you know, if they told you, you only got a couple of months to live, what most guys would do, and I'm sure what I would do, wouldn't be too productive.
00:15:16.180 But when they tell you you've got six months to live or a year to live, you're not going to just go do, you know, you're not going to go on spring break for a year.
00:15:24.180 So having the opportunity to do something, something like that meant something.
00:15:29.180 It's a legacy, right?
00:15:31.180 Yeah.
00:15:32.180 When I look at you and read your book, and I tried to get a copy, but I stored on Amazon.
00:15:38.180 I didn't get a copy.
00:15:39.180 I had to read it on Amazon.
00:15:40.180 But do you have a copy that you can hold up and we can talk about it?
00:15:44.180 Yeah.
00:15:45.180 I told you.
00:15:46.180 I gave it away.
00:15:47.180 I was traveling with one, but I gave it away.
00:15:49.180 We're going to put it in the snippets.
00:15:51.180 We will put it in the graphic.
00:15:53.180 But what's the title?
00:15:55.180 Danger close.
00:15:56.180 Danger close.
00:15:57.180 Domestic extremist threat number one comes clean.
00:16:01.180 With an introduction by Michael, or a preface by Michael Flynn and General Michael T. Flynn, and the introduction by Maria Butina.
00:16:11.180 Yeah, you were enemy number one, right?
00:16:14.180 Yeah.
00:16:15.180 I don't want to go into that one yet, because I still want to go into how you got there.
00:16:22.180 Because here you were, and what kind of favor were you doing when you decided that you were going to, I don't know how to put it, what put you in contact with Hillary Clinton?
00:16:36.180 Well, they, at the time, I was already working on the Russia hoax.
00:16:43.180 This episode is really good, and it gets even better.
00:16:47.180 I mean, we've already recorded it.
00:16:48.180 I've already edited it.
00:16:49.180 He's going to come back and tape with us tomorrow.
00:16:51.180 And the second part, I expect.
00:16:53.180 For part two.
00:16:54.180 I can't wait for part two, because that's where he's going to drop some big old cherry bombs.
00:16:59.180 Yeah, and he has through this whole episode.
00:17:01.180 Bigger.
00:17:02.180 I know.
00:17:03.180 So I just want people to know this happened late.
00:17:06.180 We got Patrick.
00:17:07.180 He came on.
00:17:08.180 We broke it into two parts.
00:17:09.180 So this is part one.
00:17:10.180 This is explaining, you know, his backstory and this fantastical story about basically like espionage with Obama and Hillary.
00:17:17.180 This is one of my favorite episodes ever, if not my favorite.
00:17:19.180 It's five versus five, but it's like how this guy, he brought them down.
00:17:24.180 He single-handedly brought them all down.
00:17:27.180 He's got them all at heel.
00:17:29.180 And then what he did about it.
00:17:33.180 That's next week.
00:17:34.180 Yeah.
00:17:35.180 I know.
00:17:36.180 And we are taping that tomorrow, just so you know.
00:17:37.180 Yeah.
00:17:38.180 So we're going to get back to the episode.
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00:19:37.180 I met in July of 2015, the, I met this woman, Maria Butina.
00:19:44.180 Now what's important to know is they say this all started in the crossfire hurricane started in July of 2016 when they became aware of her.
00:19:51.180 That's Peter Strzok's late last and final position.
00:19:55.180 That's a flat lie.
00:19:56.180 They became aware of her at the latest in July of 2015 because I reported her.
00:20:01.180 There was this very famous meeting of her and Donald Trump where when he was a candidate in Las Vegas, she stood up and asked him a question and they interacted.
00:20:11.180 Later, when he was president and they arrested her, they showed that clip a thousand times on TV to associate the two of them.
00:20:19.180 Well, three days before that happened, there's a libertarian convention in Las Vegas every year called Freedom Fest.
00:20:27.180 And I, I was, you've been to it, I bet, right?
00:20:30.180 Have you been to it?
00:20:31.180 Yeah.
00:20:32.180 I was asked to keynote opening and Trump was the keynote close in 2015.
00:20:37.180 So three days before she did that with Trump, she approached me and we had a 90 minute lunch during which time she asked me to come to Russia and give a speech at the central bank and then meet a bunch of powerful people that she was connected to.
00:20:51.180 Because of my security clearance, because of this, see, and I don't mean to overstate it.
00:20:56.180 I take very little credit.
00:20:58.180 Most of my relationship has been academic.
00:21:00.180 Most of the time it's just me going in with a PowerPoint and someone asked me to come into some facility and talk about something I talked about publicly.
00:21:07.180 But sometimes I get to make these other little favors.
00:21:10.180 So because I, because of that, I needed a security clearance.
00:21:14.180 And because of that, here's this girl asked me to come, an attractive young Russian girl, asked me to come over to Russia with her and meet these big players and such.
00:21:23.180 I had to report that.
00:21:24.180 So I reported that three days before she asked Donald Trump that question.
00:21:30.180 So I can assure you, she was already.
00:21:32.180 What is the question she asked Trump, just so everybody will remember?
00:21:37.180 They're innocuous about what do you think of the future of U.S.-Russian relationships?
00:21:40.180 Could they be better?
00:21:41.180 Things like that.
00:21:42.180 But what's key is the feds were already all over her.
00:21:45.180 They knew about her three days earlier.
00:21:47.180 And every move she then made in the United States, every move was watched, was anticipated.
00:21:52.180 They knew every one of them often before they happened.
00:21:55.180 We ended up having an affair with permission of Uncle Sam.
00:21:58.180 We had an affair.
00:21:59.180 She was living with this Republican guy.
00:22:01.180 She had an affair with me every six weeks.
00:22:05.180 Hey, come meet me in some city, Maria.
00:22:07.180 I'll show you the city.
00:22:08.180 We'll have a little tryst and we'll get to know each other.
00:22:11.180 And she's a very decent girl.
00:22:14.180 But we had kind of an intellectual bond very quickly.
00:22:18.180 And that started, just so you're aware, I'm a single bachelor, no woman in my life.
00:22:24.180 And I know I'm a lot taller and handsomer when I stand on my wallet as well.
00:22:30.180 So at the time of Wired Magazine, if you look up my name in Wired, Patrick Byrne Wired, you'll see that I'm the Messiah of Bitcoin, which means I have a lot of groupies in different cities, just like I'm sure you do, Roseanne.
00:22:47.180 Sure.
00:22:48.180 And so it's not that unusual.
00:22:50.180 I got a lot of guys asking me for Bitcoin.
00:22:53.180 Well, so it wasn't that unusual that a young woman came up with that she had such a backstory.
00:23:01.180 It was interesting.
00:23:02.180 I reported it.
00:23:03.180 And that's why it's important to note the Russian collusion story really starts in July of 2015.
00:23:09.180 It was all set up from that day forward.
00:23:12.180 From that day forward, I knew what they were doing.
00:23:16.180 She told me, look, I'm schmoozing.
00:23:18.180 Am I giving you too long an answer?
00:23:19.180 Should I go on?
00:23:20.180 No.
00:23:21.180 No, no, it's good.
00:23:22.180 We're hanging on every word.
00:23:23.180 Are you kidding?
00:23:24.180 She told me, look, I'm over here.
00:23:26.180 I'm kind of a mentor.
00:23:27.180 And I'm not a spy.
00:23:28.180 I'm not connected, Patrick, to FSB.
00:23:30.180 But I know FSB.
00:23:31.180 And I know all the, she put it this way, Patrick, there are 50 oligarchs who run Russia.
00:23:36.180 But there are seven who really run Russia.
00:23:38.180 I am on close, very close personal terms, but four of seven.
00:23:43.180 So, and she said she was very close with this Senator, Alexander Torshin, vice chairman as well of the central bank.
00:23:51.180 And she told me that there was basically that they were the liberals of Russia, liberals in the sense of they hoped someday Russia would rejoin the Western liberal peaceful tradition.
00:24:03.180 And that they had a gun rights club that had been set up by Mikhail Kalashnikov, which is quite almost a mythically important name to the Russians.
00:24:13.180 And it was really, it was about gun rights, but it was really the simpatico people in Russia.
00:24:19.180 See, I'm a disciple of Milton Friedman.
00:24:21.180 And Milton was a friend.
00:24:22.180 And he did this thing where he gave me his name for 10 years when he died.
00:24:26.180 He appointed me the head of the Russian, the Friedman Foundation, which was supposed to really expire at his death.
00:24:34.180 But he and I were friends.
00:24:35.180 And he asked me to lead it for 10 years, which to me was like Isaac Newton had asked, Milton Friedman.
00:24:41.180 So because of that, that doesn't mean anything to 99% of the world, but to about 1%, that means something.
00:24:47.180 And Maria was the 1%.
00:24:49.180 So that's the background on Maria.
00:24:52.180 But what's interesting, so whenever you think about the Maria story, think of it in two levels.
00:24:56.180 One is the real story of what she was and what she was doing.
00:25:00.180 And the more important story is how was our government responding?
00:25:04.180 And our government was not responding at all like they normally would.
00:25:08.180 So wait a minute.
00:25:09.180 So she was, she was a person who was representing liberal Russians, a liberal Russian kind of westernizing view.
00:25:19.180 Yes, this was her pitch.
00:25:21.180 And let's set aside the question of, is this a come on?
00:25:23.180 Is this just a line?
00:25:25.180 You know, somebody said to me once, somebody in government said, Patrick, don't you think that if the Russians wanted to send someone at you, they'd send someone who a good looking girl who wants to talk about John Locke?
00:25:34.180 Well, that's exactly what Maria is.
00:25:36.180 She wants to talk about John Locke and Milton Friedman and Bitcoin and things like this.
00:25:39.180 And so that was her pitch.
00:25:42.180 Set aside whether it's a, she's really a spy.
00:25:45.180 And that was her.
00:25:46.180 I think she is what she thought she was.
00:25:49.180 There's some question in my mind about what was going on behind her.
00:25:52.180 But she was saying, look, I'm basically to build relationships into the Hillary, Cruz, Rubio and Trump camps.
00:26:00.180 So whoever wins, Russia has a back channel into that, into that administration.
00:26:05.180 And we can start having real discussion and not these, not this deep, not whatever's going on now that's getting in the way.
00:26:12.180 That was her pitch.
00:26:14.180 Well, that worried me a little bit.
00:26:15.180 For one thing, I was optimistic because I've taken part in some peace activities.
00:26:20.180 Stranger things have happened that something like that would lead to something.
00:26:25.180 But I was sort of 30 percent worried.
00:26:27.180 Here's a woman who knows all about the FSB and the oligarchs of Russia.
00:26:32.180 She's told me she's going to be moving in with her boyfriend in D.C., a big shot Republican guy, and she's going to be focusing on schmoozing her way into Hillary, Cruz, Rubio or Trump.
00:26:46.180 And you get why that's a little dicey from a counter.
00:26:49.180 Yeah.
00:26:50.180 Yeah.
00:26:51.180 So I was sort of 60 percent optimistic, but kind of 30 percent worried that this is that this is what she's doing.
00:26:58.180 And even if she's well intentioned, you just don't want people.
00:27:01.180 You know, you have to be careful about this kind of stuff.
00:27:04.180 Right.
00:27:05.180 So I reported this and with the understanding that I would eventually that that that they should know there was somebody doing this and there was both opportunity and risk.
00:27:15.180 And I had that's when I say Uncle Sam started acting strange July of 2015, not 2016, which tells me the whole Russia thing was started to be set up by July of 2015.
00:27:27.180 And shall I continue how they did it?
00:27:30.180 Yeah.
00:27:31.180 Well, she met she.
00:27:33.180 So I knew everyone she met often before she met them.
00:27:36.180 A few of the meetings were arranged by me at their request at the request of Uncle Sam.
00:27:40.180 Nothing I did was without their approval, including what I went to see.
00:27:45.180 I said, I'm not going to see her again unless you guys give me a green light, because I don't want to say later.
00:27:51.180 Hey, burn.
00:27:52.180 So they gave me green light.
00:27:53.180 I saw her again and immediately turned into this physical relationship as well.
00:27:57.180 But she's a she else.
00:27:59.180 But she's not like she's really a good girl.
00:28:02.180 But we had this.
00:28:03.180 She was chosen by Mikhail Kalashnikov to do this.
00:28:06.180 And because I was Milton Friedman's chosen guy, there was a little bit of kismet and we were excited to know each other.
00:28:12.180 But I said, let's just meet every six weeks when you get bored.
00:28:15.180 We'll meet somewhere and we pick some city to meet New York, Miami, San Francisco.
00:28:22.180 And I'll show you a good dime.
00:28:23.180 You get to see the city.
00:28:24.180 We'll spend a few days.
00:28:25.180 I thought I'll be learning more to pass up the chain of command, maybe so I can open the doors for her.
00:28:31.180 She wants open.
00:28:32.180 But I wasn't going to introduce her to anyone unless they told me to.
00:28:36.180 And I could tell you by November, December what they were doing.
00:28:41.180 She had met somebody in Hillary's camp, and then they had given a prophylactic briefing to Hillary to keep her out.
00:28:47.180 And then Maria was happy because she didn't like Hillary at all.
00:28:52.180 She's much more of a Ron Paul type.
00:28:55.180 Her politics were Ron Polish.
00:28:58.180 So she was excited about Cruz, Ruby, or Trump.
00:29:01.180 And to be frank, the United States government was just letting her go at it in a way that they would never normally do.
00:29:08.180 But they were aware of her the entire time.
00:29:11.180 I'll give you an example.
00:29:12.180 I get it.
00:29:13.180 I get it.
00:29:14.180 Okay.
00:29:15.180 I see.
00:29:16.180 Let me give you a good example with Chris Christie.
00:29:19.180 Chris Christie reached out, wanted to meet me.
00:29:22.180 People think of me as a New Hampshire businessman.
00:29:25.180 I was living in Utah doing overstock at the time.
00:29:28.180 But he reached out.
00:29:29.180 I reported it.
00:29:30.180 They say, take Maria with you, bring her to meet Christie, just the last few minutes of your meeting.
00:29:36.180 So I brought her with me.
00:29:38.180 I picked her up in a helicopter in New York, took her up this very romantic thing to New Hampshire, met with Christie for an hour.
00:29:44.180 The last five minutes I brought in Maria.
00:29:46.180 It turned out later they used that to get a FISA warrant on Chris Christie.
00:29:51.180 Anyone Maria spent, you know, if she just shook someone's hand, they couldn't get a FISA warrant.
00:29:56.180 But by having her spend five minutes with him, that meant they could get a FISA on Christie and then listen to anyone he spoke to and anyone they spoke to.
00:30:05.180 Two hops.
00:30:06.180 So they were using Maria to smudge up the Republican Party.
00:30:11.180 Well, they were using you to use her.
00:30:14.180 Right.
00:30:15.180 And I could have told you that in December of 2020.
00:30:18.180 And you're the one that did the right thing by reporting, you know, because you don't want to get in trouble for the Logan Act or any of that whatever, you know.
00:30:26.180 No, I don't have any worries about that.
00:30:28.180 Well, I mean, you didn't want to get in trouble.
00:30:31.180 You didn't want to do anything that wasn't okay with the United States government.
00:30:35.180 Yeah.
00:30:36.180 That's part.
00:30:37.180 That's 30%.
00:30:38.180 And 60% was I was actually initially optimistic that this could lead to, you know, some something.
00:30:44.180 Yeah, but you did it right.
00:30:45.180 You went by the book.
00:30:47.180 Right.
00:30:48.180 And they ended up using you.
00:30:51.180 But there was a last 10% reason.
00:30:54.180 The last 10% reason.
00:30:57.180 Shall I save that?
00:31:00.180 It's a little bit harder to explain.
00:31:02.180 The last 10% reason was I wanted to see how they would react.
00:31:06.180 I wanted to see what they would do with her.
00:31:08.180 I had become aware at that point that or suspicious that whoever was pulling my puppet strings was corrupt.
00:31:16.180 I can't say why.
00:31:18.180 When did you get, when did you get suspicious?
00:31:21.180 2010.
00:31:23.180 Oh.
00:31:24.180 2010.
00:31:25.180 And I can't say why certain things happened over several years that made me think they were,
00:31:31.180 there was someone in my chain of command who was no good Nick.
00:31:36.180 But I didn't.
00:31:37.180 But then this happened with Maria.
00:31:39.180 And so 10% of me was thinking, well, I use this horrible example in the book.
00:31:44.180 But back when I was a wrestler, I used to.
00:31:46.180 You were a wrestler?
00:31:48.180 I was a wrestler.
00:31:49.180 Yeah.
00:31:50.180 Wrestler, jujitsu, all that stuff.
00:31:51.180 We used to make a plate, take a piece of plastic, dip it in boiling water and bite into it and make a mouth guard.
00:31:58.180 In the most, maybe the most awful sense, what happened subsequently is my fault.
00:32:03.180 Because I took Maria, who seemed to want to be dipped into the national security pot.
00:32:08.180 I said, let her dip in there and let's see what bite marks the teeth, the deep state makes on her.
00:32:13.180 I'd become suspicious at that point that there was a corrupt deep state.
00:32:17.180 And I thought if I, if I'm right, they're going to use, I just knew that we would get a dental impression of the deep state.
00:32:25.180 And ultimately that was my goal.
00:32:26.180 So we have in the story of Maria Boutina, we have the perfect dental impression of the deep state.
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00:34:11.180 Yeah.
00:34:12.180 Right?
00:34:13.180 Yeah.
00:34:14.180 No, I think that's why people are buying it and telling us about it.
00:34:15.180 Cause they, they use her meeting with Chris Christie to get a fake FISA.
00:34:20.180 And that's a group of dozens.
00:34:22.180 They knew about all her meetings.
00:34:24.180 There was one meeting, some big shots, some mockers in the party were going to, were trying to arrange a meeting between Maria and Don Jr.
00:34:32.180 At a convention.
00:34:33.180 I think it was in this, I know it was in the South.
00:34:36.180 It was either a Christian convention or it was a gun rights convention.
00:34:39.180 And someone was setting up the secret meeting for, for him and Maria.
00:34:44.180 And I reported that.
00:34:46.180 And I said, you know, normally would say what I'd say, what would I do?
00:34:50.180 Should I whisk her off?
00:34:51.180 They'd say whisk her off to the Bahamas for a weekend or something.
00:34:54.180 So I did, I, I, I've learned by the way that my lifestyle sounds strange to people.
00:35:02.180 So I just apologize, but everyone know I'm a bachelor.
00:35:05.180 I've never pretended to be anything else.
00:35:07.180 You're a rich guy.
00:35:08.180 You're a rich guy.
00:35:09.180 You're a rich guy.
00:35:10.180 You're a rich guy.
00:35:11.180 You're a rich guy.
00:35:12.180 You're a rich guy.
00:35:13.180 You're a favorite.
00:35:14.180 You're a principal economist, which is unheard of.
00:35:16.180 Yeah.
00:35:17.180 Which is great.
00:35:18.180 And I've, and I'm taller and handsomer when I stand on my wall.
00:35:21.180 And I know that.
00:35:22.180 Right.
00:35:23.180 But she was kind of a groupie for on the big, I'm not groupie, but a Bitcoin advocate.
00:35:27.180 It was, I think we had this great intellectual.
00:35:30.180 Anyway, she said, or they told me don't whisk her off.
00:35:33.180 Let it happen.
00:35:34.180 Let it happen.
00:35:35.180 Well, that's very unusual.
00:35:36.180 And that's when I, I could have told you what they were doing.
00:35:39.180 I shouldn't have opened my bottle before I called my water bottle.
00:35:43.180 I started thinking, Oh, what we're doing here is we are creating a can O scandal.
00:35:49.180 Can O Russian scandal that these guys, by having me do this and use her to, they're not interested in this because they're interested in my thoughts on her and what might be available for open back doors for peace.
00:36:03.180 They're using her to smudge up the Republicans.
00:36:06.180 I knew that in December of 2015, and that someday they were going to take that can off the shelf when they needed it.
00:36:13.180 They're going to shake it up.
00:36:14.180 They're going to spread all over the Republican Party.
00:36:17.180 I could have told you that Thanksgiving of 2015.
00:36:19.180 That's what they were doing.
00:36:21.180 And now that's officially the whole thing starts in July of 2016.
00:36:25.180 That's because they're covering up all this that I'm telling you.
00:36:28.180 It was all prepared.
00:36:29.180 All the tracks for the Russian scandal were all laid from July of 2015 forward.
00:36:33.180 It was all pre-canned.
00:36:35.180 And I was part of that.
00:36:36.180 I was preaching.
00:36:37.180 Are you saying that was that before Trump was the nominee?
00:36:40.180 Trump came.
00:36:41.180 Oh, this was all before he was the nominee.
00:36:43.180 He wasn't even a can't.
00:36:45.180 Well, this started July of 2015, a month before that June is when Donald Trump came down the escalator and announced.
00:36:55.180 However, there's some evidence in my mind, and I put it out near the end of the book, that really they may have been working this since February, March 2015.
00:37:06.180 See, she came over with a central bank to Washington, D.C. in February and March.
00:37:11.180 And then Brennan made a trip to Moscow in April.
00:37:14.180 And then in May, she got asked by her mentor to the senator.
00:37:20.180 I think that her relationship is a little bit like mine, maybe, with her government.
00:37:25.180 She got asked to come over here and be this grad student, be this back channel for peace.
00:37:30.180 It's very possible that this whole thing was really getting set up since March of 2015.
00:37:36.180 And if that's the case, that's important because that's before Donald Trump ever came down an escalator.
00:37:42.180 They were setting up the Russian scandal.
00:37:44.180 And this is you're so smart, Roseanne, to get this so quick.
00:37:49.180 They were setting this up.
00:37:51.180 The thing that's important to know is the Russia hoax wasn't technically really about Donald Trump.
00:37:56.180 It was set up on the Republican Party.
00:37:58.180 And it was right.
00:37:59.180 No matter who was the nominee was going to get it.
00:38:01.180 Exactly.
00:38:02.180 Exactly.
00:38:03.180 It was a coup.
00:38:05.180 And in the middle, it was the beginnings of a coup on the Republican Party.
00:38:09.180 And in the middle of that, they started the coup on the Democrat Party.
00:38:14.180 And that's what you first asked me about, the Hillary side of things.
00:38:17.180 You want to talk about that?
00:38:18.180 Yeah.
00:38:19.180 They were aware of a foreign government that wanted to bribe her, Azerbaijan.
00:38:25.180 I reveal it in the book.
00:38:27.180 And they taught me, the FBI agents taught me about his sting and the legal theory of stings and how they work, how Hillary had tripped it.
00:38:34.180 And now Comey had authorized.
00:38:36.180 Well, this is the key part that Comey and my book explains like word for word and how the exact speech they gave me and how they asked me to do this.
00:38:44.180 But at the end of this, they asked me that the folks in New York, the squad in New York are asking your help.
00:38:51.180 Comey has authorized a sting on Hillary and they want you to get her in a position to accept this bribe.
00:39:00.180 Okay, wait a minute.
00:39:01.180 I'm all mixed up now.
00:39:03.180 Okay.
00:39:04.180 Comey, who later exonerates her and says we're not going to do nothing about 33,000 illegally deleted emails.
00:39:13.180 He is the one that wants to set her up.
00:39:20.180 Yes, exactly.
00:39:21.180 And it all becomes clear when you read the book closely.
00:39:25.180 Your reviewers read the book Danger Close.
00:39:27.180 It all lays it out.
00:39:29.180 He wanted me to bribe her.
00:39:31.180 And I said, when they asked me, I said, gentlemen, this is pretty, I've done everything for Uncle Sam's on a handshake.
00:39:37.180 But you're asking me to get involved in a presidential, in a federal election and bribe a presidential candidate.
00:39:44.180 I'm going to need something on a piece of paper for this.
00:39:47.180 And they said, let's go back to the office.
00:39:49.180 They came back two or three days later.
00:39:51.180 And they said, we've been told to tell you, we can't give you a piece of paper.
00:39:55.180 Now this word for word, we can't give you a piece of paper.
00:39:57.180 But the director says, if you'll go to Washington DC, you can be shown a piece of paper.
00:40:02.180 And I said, oh, this is coming from the director.
00:40:05.180 And two federal agents leaned into me and said, oh, this is coming all the way from the president.
00:40:17.180 And two federal agents leaned in and said, I said, well, gentlemen, you can tell you can tell Director Comey and President Obama that from them is good enough for me.
00:40:31.180 Consider Hillary broad.
00:40:33.180 What do you need?
00:40:34.180 And they told me, Patrick, you got to find the somewhere in the world.
00:40:38.180 There's there's going to be a room in the next two months.
00:40:41.180 You're to bring about the state of affairs somewhere in the world.
00:40:44.180 There's going to be a room.
00:40:45.180 We don't care where.
00:40:46.180 And Hillary Clinton is going to walk into that room.
00:40:49.180 And the bag man from Azerbaijan is going to walk into that room.
00:40:52.180 And they're going to spend 10 minutes alone together in that room.
00:40:55.180 You pull that out and you make that happen any way you want.
00:40:59.180 And I said, OK, now you understand I'm going to be bribing people and stuff.
00:41:03.180 And they said, yes.
00:41:04.180 And I'm not going to tell you how one does something like goes to a country like Azerbaijan and shows them you're the type of guy who can and will do things like this and finds their bag man and works this out.
00:41:18.180 We'll leave that part of the story for another day.
00:41:21.180 All right.
00:41:22.180 But what's key to know is on January 14th, 2016, in the hotel room in Washington, Hillary Clinton met with and accepted a bribe from the bag man from Azerbaijan.
00:41:33.180 I can tell you just how it was done.
00:41:35.180 Shall I walk you through how it was done that morning?
00:41:38.180 Yeah.
00:41:39.180 Yeah.
00:41:40.180 She was quite interesting.
00:41:41.180 She was on the like, I think it was the eighth floor and her assistant was on the fifth floor.
00:41:46.180 And by prior arrangement with her, how this was done was her limousine was supposed to leave at 9 a.m.
00:41:52.180 The bag man was brought in at 830, taken up to the fifth floor and went into her assistant's room.
00:42:01.180 The at at 847, she leaves her hotel room on the eighth floor, leaves a little bit early than you would for a 9 a.m.
00:42:10.180 limousine, but leaves it, goes down, hops off the elevator on the fifth floor and and goes down and into her assistant's room.
00:42:20.180 And the assistant steps outside the door.
00:42:22.180 So now Hillary Clinton's alone with that bag man for 10 minutes.
00:42:26.180 She came out, comes in, gets in the elevator down, gets in her limousine and leaves at 901, 902.
00:42:34.180 It's not in her schedule, but it happened the morning of January 14th, 2016 in a hotel room in Washington.
00:42:41.180 And so there's the end of.
00:42:43.180 So this story really has four segments to it.
00:42:46.180 What came from it?
00:42:48.180 What was the money for?
00:42:50.180 What did it buy?
00:42:51.180 Did it just go to the Clinton Foundation?
00:42:54.180 No, it was a direct deposit to a numbered account in Azerbaijan.
00:42:59.180 And why don't I organize?
00:43:01.180 So this just doesn't turn into a kaleidoscope.
00:43:04.180 Why don't I organize this?
00:43:06.180 What I'm telling you, there's really four chapters to what I'm telling you tonight, Roseanne.
00:43:11.180 Okay.
00:43:12.180 And the first chapter is that set up of the Russian collusion hoax.
00:43:16.180 Right.
00:43:17.180 The middle of that setting that up.
00:43:19.180 And that was for.
00:43:20.180 But that was used to practice to get fake FISA's.
00:43:23.180 That was to get fake FISA's on the Republicans.
00:43:26.180 That was to get it.
00:43:27.180 So whoever came to power in the Republican Party had FISA's on.
00:43:32.180 They had contacts with a Russian girl on.
00:43:35.180 They had pictures of one.
00:43:36.180 You know, they had movies of her standing up and asking one candidate a bunch of questions.
00:43:40.180 They had her, you know, going out to dinner with other Republicans.
00:43:43.180 So they were letting her smudge up the Republican Party in a way they normally would never let happen.
00:43:48.180 So that's chapter one.
00:43:49.180 Chapter two is this bribe that I'm telling her about.
00:43:53.180 Chapter one happened in the fall of 2015.
00:43:56.180 Chapter two, the bribe happened on January 14th, 2016.
00:44:02.180 However, I'm not done with chapter two.
00:44:05.180 What's really important is that question you just asked.
00:44:08.180 You're so damn smart.
00:44:09.180 I remember our interview we did in December 2020.
00:44:13.180 I realized, Roseanne, you are so quick.
00:44:17.180 There's so many schmucks around and you are what's important.
00:44:23.180 And if you guys will listen to the next few minutes, you will understand.
00:44:26.180 Oh, we can't wait.
00:44:27.180 We're not going anywhere.
00:44:28.180 We can't wait.
00:44:29.180 Your audience will understand the last nine years in a way.
00:44:32.180 It has not happened before.
00:44:34.180 You can't wait for them to understand it.
00:44:36.180 This is what happened.
00:44:38.180 A few days later, after that meeting, I met with my handlers.
00:44:42.180 And they told me I thought they were going to be the very formal.
00:44:46.180 I call them the men in black.
00:44:47.180 I don't even like to say the FBI because really the FBI is not as bad as everybody thinks.
00:44:51.180 The FBI is good as it got hijacked from the top in a way I'm going to explain.
00:44:55.180 Like everything.
00:44:56.180 Yeah, it got hijacked from the top.
00:44:58.180 It got captured.
00:44:59.180 And this is how it got captured.
00:45:02.180 They said, well, they said, Patrick, we need to tell you.
00:45:08.180 So I thought they were going to be exciting.
00:45:10.180 And they were going to tell me because they had the room bug.
00:45:12.180 They were going to tell me, yes, she did go in and she accepted it and blah, blah, blah.
00:45:16.180 What was said or whatever.
00:45:17.180 Show me a transcript, maybe celebrate.
00:45:19.180 They're just the opposite.
00:45:21.180 These guys were stern as could be.
00:45:23.180 And they said, Patrick, this mission has been reanalyzed and the whole mission is being scrubbed.
00:45:30.180 And we need you to forget any of this ever happened.
00:45:33.180 And I said, why?
00:45:34.180 What's going on, fellas?
00:45:35.180 You could have her indicted next week.
00:45:37.180 They said, no, Patrick, it's been analyzed again from the top.
00:45:44.180 And we've realized.
00:45:45.180 So this conversation is about January 20 of 2016.
00:45:51.180 So the beginning of the presidential campaign.
00:45:55.180 But she looked, her coronation was inevitable.
00:45:58.180 And they said, Patrick, we see, it's been analyzed.
00:46:03.180 She's going to be president.
00:46:04.180 Nothing can stop that.
00:46:05.180 So what's going to, and what she's going to do is her first day in office, she's going to send her people over to the FBI.
00:46:11.180 And they're going to ask who was part of investigating Hillary Clinton.
00:46:15.180 And anyone who was part of this is going to be destroyed.
00:46:18.180 And Patrick, this includes us.
00:46:20.180 It includes our chain of command.
00:46:21.180 It includes you too, Patrick.
00:46:23.180 So this mission has been scrubbed from the very highest levels.
00:46:27.180 We need you to promise us you will forget every moment of this.
00:46:32.180 And I said, yes, sir.
00:46:33.180 I promise.
00:46:34.180 I understand that we are there.
00:46:37.180 I really do.
00:46:38.180 Don't we all?
00:46:39.180 Yeah.
00:46:40.180 Well, it was also, they were thinking, it didn't make any sense to me for a number of reasons.
00:46:45.180 One, they would have analyzed it that way before I did it.
00:46:48.180 It took quite a lot, a lot of law breaking to make this thing happen.
00:46:52.180 Secondly, they were acting panicked or scared.
00:46:56.180 And these are not men who get scared.
00:46:58.180 These are guys.
00:46:59.180 Oh, right.
00:47:00.180 Uh-huh.
00:47:01.180 Yeah.
00:47:02.180 Third, it felt like the right thing to do.
00:47:09.180 I know this sounds corny.
00:47:10.180 I know I'm associated with the hard republic right now.
00:47:14.180 Because of this side of my life, I never, I had kept to the ethics of a military officer.
00:47:19.180 I never criticized other president.
00:47:22.180 I was always very, the reason I, one of the reasons I always described, like, embrace the
00:47:26.180 Libertarian party.
00:47:27.180 Well, of course you weren't, you weren't a Trump lover, right?
00:47:30.180 I wasn't, but I wasn't a Trump hater.
00:47:32.180 I was never a never Trumper.
00:47:33.180 I was like the military officer.
00:47:35.180 Whoever wins, that's who I'm going to serve.
00:47:37.180 That's what I'm going to.
00:47:38.180 Right.
00:47:39.180 And I sort of 95% agree with Trump about things.
00:47:42.180 Ninety, 95%.
00:47:43.180 Yeah.
00:47:44.180 So stylistically, we're different.
00:47:46.180 I'm a Northern, I'm a Yankee from Northern New Hampshire and Vermont.
00:47:50.180 We're not, we're kind of plain and we see Trump as brash.
00:47:54.180 But you know what?
00:47:55.180 Even that kind of eventually started growing me too.
00:47:57.180 But I wasn't, so it wasn't about that.
00:48:00.180 But they told me this and it wasn't sitting with me.
00:48:03.180 I thought the right thing to do.
00:48:05.180 I was, you know, folks, we spent the nineties with a Democrat in the White House under investigation.
00:48:11.180 That's the Clintons.
00:48:15.180 Let's give the Democrats a chance to pick someone clean and they can move forward.
00:48:19.180 We can't just do this again.
00:48:21.180 And so I, I, there was another meeting in the first week of, but, but they, they gave
00:48:26.180 me my instructions and I said, okay, I'll forget it.
00:48:29.180 I went home and that was not sitting well with me.
00:48:32.180 And this is where the story gets very pointed.
00:48:35.180 They said, I met them again in the first week of February and they brought another man to
00:48:42.180 the meeting and the other man was another FBI agent.
00:48:45.180 But they told me that John, that there were provisions in the law that made it such that
00:48:51.180 when, if the CIA wanted to, the director of the CIA can take, basically take the steering wheel of the FBI.
00:48:58.180 Is that Brennan?
00:48:59.180 That's Brennan, right?
00:49:00.180 Right.
00:49:01.180 And that Brennan, and I think they indicated several months earlier over the Maria stuff,
00:49:06.180 had signed that and was now running the FBI as far as any Russian matters went.
00:49:12.180 And from now on, this man would be sitting in the room with us auditing.
00:49:16.180 And he was the FBI liaison to John, director Comey's personal liaison to director Brennan.
00:49:25.180 He's got to be sitting in meetings from now on.
00:49:27.180 And this is where they eventually let their hair down and explained to me the truth.
00:49:33.180 And you can, in the next 60 seconds, your viewers will now understand what's really happened
00:49:37.180 in the last nine years.
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00:52:03.180 What they told me was, Patrick, this is early February 2016.
00:52:08.180 When I was told, I'll say it now, there was actually a fourth federal involved that actually said most of this to me, but the other three then confirmed it.
00:52:19.180 But I'll leave that fourth federal out of it.
00:52:22.180 That Patrick, what's really going on is that President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy now, but especially the Department of Justice.
00:52:31.180 Remember, this is eight years into his term.
00:52:34.180 So especially the Department of Justice.
00:52:38.180 Hillary Clinton is going to be president for eight years and nothing's going to change that.
00:52:43.180 But think of it this way.
00:52:44.180 Think of it as being a Bunsen burner in the Department of Justice.
00:52:48.180 Remember what a Bunsen burner is from high school chemistry?
00:52:51.180 Yeah.
00:52:52.180 Yeah.
00:52:53.180 Yeah.
00:52:54.180 That you turn up and down the flame.
00:52:56.180 Think of there as being a Bunsen burner.
00:52:59.180 And the information about the bribe is going to be sitting on that Bunsen burner, Hillary's bribe.
00:53:06.180 A hand on the Bunsen burner is going to be one of Barack Obama's people.
00:53:10.180 And if Hillary is a good girl and defends Obama care and such, that flame stays low.
00:53:14.180 If she's a bad girl and starts thinking for itself, it gets turned up.
00:53:18.180 And that way, President Obama is going to manage Hillary Clinton for the eight years she's president.
00:53:24.180 And then Michelle is going to run.
00:53:26.180 And Patrick, that's the plan.
00:53:28.180 And I was later to learn that this plan was called Operation Snowglobe.
00:53:33.180 Snowglobe?
00:53:34.180 Snowglobe.
00:53:35.180 We had, you know, Christmas kids get a little glass ball that you're shaking.
00:53:40.180 This was a snowglobe.
00:53:42.180 They wanted Hillary Clinton in a snowglobe that Clinton, that Obama and Brennan and Comey could shake up anytime they wanted while she's president.
00:53:52.180 My bribe was the lure.
00:53:55.180 It was the bait to lure her to step into that snowglobe.
00:53:59.180 Capisce?
00:54:00.180 Capisce?
00:54:01.180 Yeah.
00:54:02.180 She's flat-mailed.
00:54:03.180 Repeat that back.
00:54:04.180 Because you explained things so well.
00:54:06.180 How would you-
00:54:07.180 She's flat-mailed, so therefore compromised and owned.
00:54:10.180 And owned.
00:54:11.180 Which means effectively, if she's then president for eight years, and then Michelle's installed, that gives us 24 years of Barack Obama.
00:54:20.180 Yeah, Obamacare, which is basically a sin tax on the poor.
00:54:26.180 Yeah.
00:54:27.180 But even more broadly, remember how he came in saying, I want to fundamentally transform America?
00:54:34.180 That gives somebody-
00:54:35.180 Yeah.
00:54:36.180 Since Washington, we've had this tradition of two.
00:54:39.180 And it was just-
00:54:40.180 This is a fellow who thinks he knows so much, he's going to fundamentally transform and he wants 24 years to do it.
00:54:46.180 So this was all a coup.
00:54:48.180 And if it feels like you're living through a coup, I promise you, you are living through a coup.
00:54:53.180 It all started around Thanksgiving, 2015 to 2016.
00:54:58.180 And I was part of it.
00:54:59.180 So after I received this threat, I'll close chapter two on this last point.
00:55:07.180 They leaned over to me and they said, so when we tell you, Patrick, that you have to erase this, every second of this from that memory of yours, we're telling you it's a matter of life.
00:55:19.180 And, and I said, and they said, and two FBI agents stared at their shoes as the third guy threatened my life.
00:55:30.180 And he didn't quite say death.
00:55:32.180 He said, you gotta, when we tell you, you gotta erase everything, every second of this from that memory of yours, it's really, it's a matter of life.
00:55:39.180 And I said, yes, sir, I get it.
00:55:45.180 And so there was that moment and two FBI hate to now I want to emphasize these guys all turn out to be good guys as hard as that may be to believe they protected me.
00:55:53.180 I'm, I haven't gone into it, but they saved my life.
00:55:56.180 These three guys ended up saving me.
00:55:58.180 Well, that's like, it's like a born novel.
00:56:01.180 Yeah.
00:56:02.180 Well, it reads as they say in your industry in Hollywood, don't they say sometimes of plays and, and sitcoms that it reads better than it played.
00:56:11.180 You know, it's more fun in the reading than actually watching this whole thing.
00:56:15.180 Yeah.
00:56:16.180 Yeah.
00:56:17.180 It's not nearly as much fun to live through as it, as it may sound like.
00:56:21.180 So that was the end of chapter two.
00:56:24.180 Any questions on that before we go to chapter three and four?
00:56:29.180 Nope.
00:56:30.180 Keep going.
00:56:31.180 Well, I'm, I'm totally on board.
00:56:34.180 I want to hear three.
00:56:35.180 You're so, it's so great to deal with someone smart.
00:56:39.180 And how interesting that after Flynn, who is a genius, getting to work with Flynn is like getting to work with Steve Jobs.
00:56:46.180 He's really just so smart.
00:56:48.180 But I remember what you're really, I know, I know how smart you are, and how quickly you get things from our, well, okay, so that was the end of chapter two.
00:56:58.180 Now we go to chapter three.
00:57:00.180 Chapter three is a flashback of 10 years.
00:57:04.180 Are you ready to flashback with me from two, from 2016 to 2006?
00:57:10.180 You're ready?
00:57:11.180 Yes.
00:57:12.180 I first became beside after I took over stock public oversight dot com public, I became known as in as I ended up in a fight against Wall Street.
00:57:26.180 And this very public fight, I knew 2008 was coming, I understood some of the factors.
00:57:31.180 And I tried to alert all the authorities you would think you would alert.
00:57:35.180 And what I discovered from NASDAQ and NYSE and the SEC and the Senate Banking Committee and the House Financial Services Committee and the Financial Press of Wall Street, I had the proof that something very corrupt was going on.
00:57:50.180 And I thought the world looked like it worked like it does in the Pelican brief when Julia Roberts figures out the scheme of the evil corporation and she makes public and the DOJ swoops in and the Washington Post swoops in.
00:58:03.180 Oh, my gosh, that's so funny.
00:58:05.180 That's not at all what happens.
00:58:06.180 What happens is all that corruption is feeding a lot of mouths.
00:58:10.180 And when you start to talk about it, the whole world descends.
00:58:14.180 So that happened.
00:58:16.180 And I was very surprised.
00:58:18.180 But the Senate Judiciary Committee and this was and I've always told that story publicly that way before that all that I discovered was all of all of Washington was corrupt.
00:58:28.180 No one would help the people and institutions you think are looking.
00:58:32.180 We had Harvard economists.
00:58:34.180 We had Wall Street Goldman insiders.
00:58:36.180 We had every bit of shred of evidence you could have.
00:58:39.180 And we tried to get the SEC and all these other people that that there was a mass crack in the financial system.
00:58:47.180 And hedge funds were looting hundreds of billions and probably trillions out of the system.
00:58:53.180 And we're showing off it.
00:58:55.180 And we had this like we had every scrap of this to prove it.
00:58:59.180 And yet we had I had all these doors slammed in my face until finally the Senate Judiciary Committee grabbed a hold of me.
00:59:07.180 And they brought me into their warm embrace.
00:59:10.180 And I know this all sounds delusional.
00:59:12.180 But are you following my story, Roseanne, so far?
00:59:15.180 Yeah.
00:59:16.180 I knew about the HSBC bank hack, too, that those, you know, anonymous hacked HSBC bank.
00:59:24.180 And I think that was in 2006.
00:59:26.180 And they knew it, too.
00:59:28.180 And they put it all out there, every single bit of it.
00:59:31.180 And, you know, Obama couldn't wait to remember when he got elected that he couldn't wait, tripped over himself to run back and give all the money to the banks.
00:59:41.180 Yeah, he did the exact opposite of what they should have done.
00:59:45.180 They should have ring fenced the 19 systemically important banks at the center of the system and said, we're going to protect everything outside them, all the community banks, all the regional banks.
00:59:55.180 But we're going to let Wall Street burn.
00:59:57.180 They did just the opposite.
00:59:59.180 They protected them and said, we're going to put the United States Treasury to support them.
01:00:03.180 And we're going to let all the regionals and community banks burn.
01:00:06.180 Yeah, we're going to let everybody's retirement funds go and, you know, their house will burst and, you know, destroy communities.
01:00:14.180 Yeah.
01:00:15.180 And that's when I that's when that's the kind of thing I was realizing in 05 to 08, that our federal government, we think it's protecting us from them.
01:00:24.180 No, it's been captured and turned against us.
01:00:27.180 The economists even have a term for that called regulatory capture.
01:00:30.180 But anyway, so I'll move on.
01:00:32.180 There was one group in Washington and I always kept this secret that there was actually one group in Washington who was quite honest.
01:00:41.180 It was the Senate Judiciary Committee and both sides, Democrat and Republican.
01:00:45.180 In fact, it was run at the time by a Democrat named Arlen Specter.
01:00:49.180 Then he switched Republican for a term or two.
01:00:53.180 And then he switched back to Democrat at the end of his life.
01:00:56.180 So he was really this great institutionalist and he was admired by both sides.
01:01:01.180 And he was the Senate chairman, the judiciary chairman.
01:01:04.180 But there were others.
01:01:05.180 There were other senators on both sides.
01:01:07.180 Part of what happened.
01:01:08.180 And what happened was they.
01:01:10.180 They had me basically spy against the government for them.
01:01:19.180 They had me going around, get taken from chin from federal agencies and just continued taking it in the chin, fighting Wall Street.
01:01:28.180 But really, they had my back.
01:01:30.180 And what they told me, Patrick.
01:01:32.180 That's great to know.
01:01:34.180 It's so great to know that they were on our side, you know, the people.
01:01:38.180 They were the Senate Judiciary and the both sides, Dems and Republicans.
01:01:43.180 And what they told me was the following story.
01:01:46.180 They said, Patrick, we're the ultimate protectors of the Constitution because we have the mandate to investigate corruption.
01:01:53.180 And corruption is anything, anything that could be touched by a civil or criminal penalty counts as corruption, which means that we technically can look into anything we want to look into the United States from the manufacture of nuclear weapons to anything.
01:02:08.180 And no one gets to tell us no.
01:02:11.180 And we so it was under that umbrella that I spent like a year interacting with other parts of the government and reporting on them to the Senate Judiciary Committee and other members of Congress and other the SEC and other regulatory bodies.
01:02:27.180 So it was very strange because the world saw me as getting getting beat up.
01:02:32.180 Burn, why are you getting beat up?
01:02:33.180 These people are going to throw you in prison.
01:02:35.180 They didn't understand that the whole time I had this 800 pound gorilla standing behind me.
01:02:40.180 And I knew that none of these people were going to lay a glove on me ultimately.
01:02:44.180 So after about a year of this, we reached this very funny point.
01:02:49.180 And this is kind of the crucial moment in this book.
01:02:52.180 This happened in in September 2006.
01:02:55.180 I was told to come Senator Hatch called and said, come alone to such and such a place in D.C.
01:03:00.180 Don't bring anybody.
01:03:02.180 Don't bring a lawyer.
01:03:03.180 I went.
01:03:04.180 There was a room with at least seven senators in it.
01:03:06.180 Democrats and Republicans, including this Democratic chairman.
01:03:10.180 Democrat turned Republican.
01:03:12.180 De-transitioning.
01:03:13.180 Is that what they call it now?
01:03:15.180 De-transitioning.
01:03:16.180 De-transitioning.
01:03:17.180 De-transitioning back to to Democrat.
01:03:21.180 Democrats.
01:03:22.180 And they said.
01:03:23.180 And I know this sounds crazy, but I can tell you that this story has not been out there for a year.
01:03:28.180 And it's there's a number of journalists who have confirmed this.
01:03:31.180 this. And you'll see it confirmed on the screen very shortly. Someone else has confirmed it,
01:03:39.620 but I'm not going to say who yet. They called me back and they said I was surrounded by seven,
01:03:44.620 it was strangest meeting of my life. They're standing in a room, seven senators around me.
01:03:50.060 And they said, we think that you're right, Patrick, about what you've been saying publicly
01:03:54.760 about corruption and what you're showing us. Let me back up one last second. In that period,
01:04:00.380 there's two stories to follow. One is what I learned about Wall Street and the Wall Street
01:04:04.540 corruption. But the other story, more important really, is how did Washington DC respond? And it
01:04:10.900 responded in a way that showed they didn't care at all. It responded in a way that they were
01:04:14.940 captured. And the Senate and judiciary was focusing on that. And they became convinced that was right
01:04:22.480 about what I was saying about Wall Street. But they were also saying, look, joining me in saying,
01:04:28.720 look at how these Washington institutions that should be responding are not responding.
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01:06:46.640 The crux of chapter three is this. They called me in. I go in, and they say, Patrick, we told you...
01:06:54.480 Sorry, I don't want to lose my voice on you. We told you that we have the ultimate... Our power
01:07:03.700 transcends any power within government because we investigate corruption.
01:07:07.760 We can do anything we want. We think you're right. There's some kind of corrupt force
01:07:12.380 taking over the U.S. government. This was a Democrat with another couple of Democrats there
01:07:17.540 and another couple few Republicans, including, incidentally, someone who... The chairman of the
01:07:25.080 Senate Intelligence Committee, that big guy from Missouri, Kit Bond. The others were Republicans
01:07:32.460 and Democrats from the Judiciary Committee. They said, we think you're right about not just
01:07:38.660 what you're saying about Wall Street, but what's going on underneath the table here in Washington.
01:07:43.140 It's like there's some force is taking over the United States government through corruption.
01:07:49.160 And we can't even tell you what it is. Someday it seems like it's a foreign government.
01:07:52.580 Someday it's internal. We can't even tell you. But we can tell you it's our job to stop it.
01:07:58.000 And we can't stop it. And he went on describing it. And I was, just for a moment, I was so elated
01:08:05.720 because I'd spent 18 months telling the world exactly that and having the whole world and
01:08:13.300 newspapers bash me. This guy's crazy. No one should listen to him. Blah, blah, blah.
01:08:17.500 You know, and yet here these important senators from both sides have looked at all the same
01:08:25.900 evidence and everything as I have. And they say, you're right. And they said, Patrick,
01:08:29.760 we're going to make this request of you. Well, I said, finally, I know, sir. This is what I've
01:08:34.780 been saying. How do you even stop something like this? And he says, Patrick, we're going to stop it
01:08:39.680 because we have you and you're going to stop it. That's why you're here. And all these senators are
01:08:42.880 like, yeah, that's right here. And they told me that I had an assignment from them. And the
01:08:50.680 assignment was to stop, to disrupt that corrupt force taking over the United States government.
01:08:56.960 And they said, we may not be senators when you finish. We may not be alive when you're finished.
01:09:03.220 But we like the cut of your jib. We got that you're a bit different, Patrick. And we got you're
01:09:07.000 a horse of a different color. I remember one of the senators doing that and everybody laughing.
01:09:10.880 They got that. I'm kind of a I'm a little when I when I was in in the hospital with cancer, all I
01:09:17.060 I ended up going from mathematical logic to studying the intellectual history of the US
01:09:22.180 Constitution. So I'd say I probably have the same fervor about that, that other people have about
01:09:29.440 Christianity or Judaism or Islam or Hinduism or something. To me, I learned the philosophical
01:09:36.260 history. And I understand the logic of it and how it's also what makes me a huge fan of Frederick
01:09:41.100 Douglas. He understood me too. Absolutely. Isn't he the great? It's, it's unbelievable that
01:09:48.140 people are not being taught about him anymore. He was the greatest. He founded the Republican Party.
01:09:55.880 Hallelujah. Absolutely. And his great message was, even though I'm a he gave the greatest July
01:10:03.040 fourth speech in history, called what to a slave is the fourth of July, that's very critical
01:10:08.140 of the United States and saying, Look, these principles about all these principles, but
01:10:11.600 look, look at this, you don't live up to them. But his great difference between today, today,
01:10:17.540 and about him and today's radicals, is he saw in the principles of the United States, this
01:10:24.380 handle, the first society that had built itself with a way to crank a handle and improve itself
01:10:30.920 and improve and improve and improve and improve. And the last thing you ever want to do is get rid
01:10:35.540 of that handle. And he understood our principles very, very well. He was allowed to, he was having
01:10:40.600 The constitution is a malleable thing that continually grows, refines, brings, you know,
01:10:48.980 real progress, not progressive progress, but that it can change and evolve. And, you know,
01:10:55.460 it's for the people to evolve a government that suits them.
01:11:00.080 And it's an extraordinary advance in human history. You can tell the history of the West as
01:11:05.500 25, well, you can tell the history of the world as 10,000 generations of slavery. And then from that,
01:11:14.080 Abraham went forth and started trying to find a different way. And the so called passion of the
01:11:19.200 Western mind is this hunt for slavery, hunt to leave slavery and get freedom. And it goes,
01:11:25.280 there you have the entire Torah, the exit from slavery and the, you know, the desire to create
01:11:36.480 just law.
01:11:38.320 Yes, exactly. And you can tell it. And in terms of the history of Jerusalem, Athens, and Rome,
01:11:45.120 Britain, Britain, and then the Netherlands. And then to me, the whole story reaches its apotheosis
01:11:51.440 in the U S constitution. And, and Frederick Douglass understood that. So he was saying these
01:11:57.680 principle, this is the most important intellectual political advance in history. Don't ever give up
01:12:03.960 these principles. Whereas today's radicals are saying, we've got to jettison those principles.
01:12:09.140 They're crazy. It's the exact opposite of what we, anyway, so I feel that way about it.
01:12:14.400 And maybe, I don't know why they picked me, I guess I might be a bit strange. They had heard
01:12:19.120 that I was, they had become aware of my prior relationship with the United States government,
01:12:24.160 and they had learned a lot about it. And evidently in the course of that, they were told several times
01:12:29.680 that Patrick is known in certain circles as somebody who does. And the expression of the
01:12:35.840 Senator used with me was, yeah, they say that you're somebody who does extreme things to accomplish
01:12:41.280 whatever you're asked to accomplish, Patrick. So we won't go into why that is, but they,
01:12:48.160 two of them actually said that to me, they knew about that, whatever reason they, they told me all
01:12:52.800 this. They, they told me this night, the seven of them standing, there was a Indian summer afternoon.
01:12:59.200 And they said, we're going to be with the president tomorrow night, and we're going to show
01:13:02.240 him this letter and we want you to read it. And they held up a page and a half letter. I stood with
01:13:07.040 my hands behind my back and a center held it. So I was this close trying to understand it. And the
01:13:13.440 first paragraph, the first paragraph said, how concerned they were about the phrase I remember,
01:13:20.400 systemic corruption infiltrating the federal institutions of our national government,
01:13:24.880 something like that. And then our nation's government. And then the second paragraph says,
01:13:30.480 the Senate Judiciary Committee requested Patrick Byrne be afforded extraordinary latitude under the laws of
01:13:36.720 the United States of America to, and I was there, I'm not quite sure, but it was like investigate and
01:13:42.720 disrupt corruption or something very action oriented. And I was very, you know, and I, I got a chance to
01:13:49.680 sort of glance at this for 15, 20 seconds. And then they said, Look, this, this is not a pardon,
01:13:56.160 you can't go kill anyone. But Patrick, your country needs you to make this the center of your life,
01:14:01.840 you're going to disrupt, figure out what is this corruption, and you're going to disrupt it.
01:14:06.000 And we may not be here, we may not be centers, we may not be alive. But this letter is going to be
01:14:11.040 sitting the rest of your life in a safe in Washington, DC. And so now that really happened.
01:14:18.720 And there's staffers who have the time who've confirmed that really happened. And there's
01:14:23.280 people who have sat with senators who say, very well, a number of journalists, Matt Taibbi knows about
01:14:30.240 this letter, shield the Calhoktar in the New York, New York knows, it's been confirmed by several
01:14:35.760 people, it has not been made public, but there'll be more on that this year. So that really happened.
01:14:42.240 And let me ask you something, and then we'll close chapter three, I'll close this with a question.
01:14:47.520 We're going to fast forward 10 years again, I'm now sitting in a room with three federal officials,
01:14:54.000 three federal agents, who are telling me, basically, we've just bribed Hillary, I've been told to forget
01:15:01.760 it, I won't drop it. And they tell me what's really going on, Patrick is, yeah, you bribed her,
01:15:06.640 you thought it was for a sting, but actually, it's going to be used to blackmail her. So Obama keeps
01:15:11.440 her, Obama, Brennan and Comey run her, keep her in a snow globe for eight years, then she steps down
01:15:16.400 and Michelle takes over and that's the plan. Would you say, Roseanne, that that counts as systemic
01:15:23.520 corruption infiltrating the federal institutions of our nation's government?
01:15:26.960 Absolutely.
01:15:28.080 Not only that, I'd say that's RICO.
01:15:30.320 Are you sure? Because I'm going to be telling this to 12 citizens, good and true someday, I think.
01:15:36.720 So would you say that?
01:15:38.720 It's RICO, it's sedition, it's canceling the votes of Americans.
01:15:45.360 It's a coup.
01:15:47.120 It's a coup. It's hijacking the government. This is February of 2016. This is November of 2015.
01:15:56.000 Well, the fall of 2015, I was dating Maria, having this affair, but really setting up
01:16:01.920 the origins of the Russia hoax. In January, February, I have the bribe on Hillary, they tell
01:16:07.680 me to forget it, the Bunsen burner, and now they're threatening my life.
01:16:12.000 And if that is, if you agree that that is systemic corruption infiltrating the federal
01:16:18.320 institutions of our nation's government, that is a very good thing. Because at that point,
01:16:24.480 I decided to avail myself of extraordinary latitude under the laws of the United States of America.
01:16:32.800 I decided on the spot, I was going to ruin their day. I was going to destroy them the moment I got a
01:16:38.960 kill shot. I was going to destroy them, destroy these people, my chain of command behind all this,
01:16:46.320 the moment I got a kill shot. And what I said was, yes, sir, I understand. I promise I will erase
01:16:53.520 every moment of this from my memory. I promise. But on the inside, I'm thinking, I'm going to bring
01:17:00.000 your whole world crashing down the moment you sons of bitches give me a kill shot. And like I say, I
01:17:07.200 think my handlers were actually good men. I think that it was very clear they were by I think their
01:17:12.960 lives were threatened to their family. They all had families. I could tell they looked sick to their
01:17:19.040 stomach. They were not the kind of guys who did this type of stuff. They looked sick to their stomach,
01:17:23.040 looked to me like they were being they couldn't even look me in the eye, frankly.
01:17:27.360 So that's the end of chapter three. Are you with me now? Yes, we had this Hillary. We had the
01:17:34.160 setup of the Russia hoax, the setup of the Hillary Clinton thing. And then my flashback from
01:17:41.280 so the setup of the Russian thing really in the second half of 2015 is began the setup of the Hillary
01:17:47.760 Clinton bribery and blackmail is January, February. And then I've given you the 26 2016.
01:17:56.480 And then I've given you the flashback to 2006. Does it all make sense?
01:18:01.120 Yes, it does. Absolutely.
01:18:04.160 So now we get to the fourth chapter. The fourth chapter is a little rough.
01:18:08.800 Oh, boy. This is the meat.
01:18:12.240 This is the meat. The fourth chapter I like to call the rape and murder of Maria Butina.
01:18:18.240 You remember Maria Butina, the redhead. The rape and murder of Maria Butina.
01:18:27.360 Now I'll spoil the plot. I'll give you the punchline up front. Maria wasn't murdered.
01:18:33.040 She's a she's a senator in Russia today, a very famous senator and probably being groomed to be
01:18:38.240 president someday, incidentally. Oh, yeah, she's being groomed. She's a very special senator. She's
01:18:45.680 got the most important political TV show in Russia. She's she's one of she's being groomed to be
01:18:51.520 president. She's very special woman. I wish they had listened to me about that.
01:18:54.640 She wasn't raped either. It was just another state. But that's the punchline to this story.
01:19:02.160 I left you in February of 2016. Well, they came back to me in July of 2016.
01:19:11.840 Now, Trump became the formal candidate in the last week of July 2016. That's when the
01:19:21.200 Republican convention was, he became president. Candid.
01:19:27.200 I'm sorry. Thank you. It shows you're listening. Good one. Became candidate. It was clear by the
01:19:32.480 beginning of July was inevitable. All the things people were talking about to derail like different
01:19:37.920 Mickey Mouse games at the convention, all that was clearly unwinnable. So in the first few days of July
01:19:44.560 2016, before he was the candidate, but when it become clear, he couldn't be stopped. They asked
01:19:51.120 to meet me again. Now they'd had me break up, by the way, just after the bribing of Hillary stuff,
01:19:55.600 they had me break off with Maria for late February 2016. Early July, they come back and they say, listen,
01:20:04.720 we make a mistake having you break off with Maria. That was a big mistake. We should we there is something
01:20:12.240 Russian going on here. And it's become the highest national priority for us to get to the bottom of
01:20:17.440 it. Now these are the same three federal agents. And again, they were very decent about how they
01:20:22.800 said this. They said, Patrick, we want you to know the United States government does not do certain
01:20:26.800 things. This is one of the things we never, in all our careers, we've never heard of this being
01:20:31.600 asked of a citizen. But you're being asked to seduce Maria Butina again and get inside her head and find
01:20:37.600 out anything she knows about what's going on here, anything that might be going on with Russia here.
01:20:42.720 And what did I think, Roseanne, you smart cookie? What did I think on the spot?
01:20:50.480 Here we go again. I think there's my kill shot. I'm going to set them up on rape and murder.
01:20:57.200 I'm going to what they said. Oh, I didn't even I didn't. Okay.
01:21:01.200 What they said was, you're being asked to do this. And we're going to be leaving our meetings with you
01:21:07.760 and going back directly to video conference to report to Director Comey and Director Brennan.
01:21:16.080 You'll be we this is the highest national priority that get to the bottom of anything Russian going
01:21:22.240 on here. Now I for a year had been telling them there's something Russian going on.
01:21:26.160 And they had been saying, Well, we don't say anything. Hey, let's talk about this other thing.
01:21:29.760 What do you think about this? They were doing anything to keep that. But now in July of 2016,
01:21:34.560 they come out and say, Oh, you were right. We should never have had you break up. We need
01:21:37.600 you to get back inside Maria's head. We need you to find out what's going on anything Russian.
01:21:42.000 And we will be leaving our meetings with you and going back to our offices and reporting directly
01:21:48.000 on video conference to John Brennan and James Comey. And this is all being done at the personal
01:21:53.200 request of President Obama. Okay. Okay, now I okay.
01:21:58.560 And I said, there's my kids. There's my kids. See the Russian hoax they had told me that it was
01:22:06.240 it was come it was Brennan had signed off and taken control of the FBI and was running everything Russia
01:22:12.720 I had been involved in. And Comey is the one who sent me the orders to bribe Hillary Clinton and who the
01:22:20.000 hell knows. And I should be clear. There's names in this world. It's a Hall of Mirrors. There are names,
01:22:27.040 very important people, and their names are not on an org chart anywhere. And it could very well be
01:22:32.560 names I'm not even using names I don't even know. But what they told me to get me to do this was they
01:22:38.080 were using the names Brennan and Comey. And then they told me it was done at the personal request,
01:22:43.280 you're being asked, they're doing it to request personal request of President Obama. And but that
01:22:48.160 was actually that came later come to think of that came to been later in the conversation.
01:22:51.760 And when they told me it was Brennan and Comey, that's actually the moment that I said,
01:22:57.680 there's my kill shot. There's the kill shot I've been waiting for. I'm going to get them the
01:23:02.880 information they want, because this is national security, but I'm going to set them up on rape
01:23:07.520 and murder as I do so. And this is how I'm going to do that. And I this all flashed for me in about
01:23:13.040 three seconds. I saw this play, I would restart a relationship with Maria. And I would tell them
01:23:20.720 and but and I would tell her that I had to do it in a way that would historians and prosecutors
01:23:28.560 could study later and find me faultless and also that she would create a pure mental memory for her.
01:23:36.960 And it took a couple months to do that of schmoozing her because I'd been kind of a jerk
01:23:42.880 when I broke off the first time schmoozing and stuff. I eventually got her to come out to Utah
01:23:47.360 to visit. And what I told her was this time, Maria, we're going to have old fashioned European
01:23:52.400 courtship. And you were going to sleep in the guest room. And you're going to visit me for six
01:23:57.520 months. And if after six months, you wish to leave your boyfriend and marry me, we will be married.
01:24:03.360 And only then when we sleep together again, and she thought this was so
01:24:08.320 our first relationship had been heavily physical, I would say, but without saying any more gentlemen,
01:24:12.560 it's probably more than a but the second time I said, I laid this on her, and she thought it was
01:24:18.400 very kind and very romantic. But I meanwhile, I reported up my chain of command, crazy stuff.
01:24:26.800 Are you following me?
01:24:28.080 Yeah, so what and I saw all this in a heartbeat that this is what I would do that this is what I
01:24:33.520 would how I would play her, but I was going to then report other stuff up my chain of command.
01:24:40.080 And I said, so I said my response, my verbal response to them was gentlemen, it's not exactly
01:24:44.640 hardship duty, consider it done. And it took me about two and they were pleased and they went back
01:24:51.040 and reported that took about two months of we of schmoozing and Schmeichling and everything else
01:24:56.800 and to get her to give me another try. And she came to Utah, we had this wonderful,
01:25:02.400 long weekend, but I was a perfect gentleman, and played that and I wanted to make that memory in her
01:25:09.360 head. So later when asked to testify, she would remember it that way. So I was like this incredible
01:25:14.400 gentleman. After the weekend, now, after the weekend, I met with my handlers, and this is where
01:25:21.200 it gets tricky. Are you following me? Am I going too fast?
01:25:24.080 No, you're good.
01:25:28.160 I said, the first time I met with them, it was a quick sort of a drive by meeting,
01:25:33.680 and just a few minutes, and I said, yeah, the weekend went well, and this and that. They said,
01:25:37.520 are you back? As I was leaving, they were saying, were you physical with her again?
01:25:41.520 And I said, yeah. And now, I normally don't talk this way. You and your viewers are going
01:25:45.120 to forgive me, right? I hope.
01:25:47.120 Of course.
01:25:47.920 I said, yeah.
01:25:48.320 Oh, yeah, we want to hear the dirty part.
01:25:51.040 We'll hear the dirty parts, but you'll hear this. I said something very out of character. In fact,
01:25:56.240 I kind of blew it a bit. I said, I was trying to indicate to them that she meant nothing to me,
01:26:01.200 so I'd be comfortable doing whatever. And I said, yeah, yeah, I'm back in the saddle. I shagged
01:26:05.440 her all night long. Don't worry. And that wasn't how we talked to each other. And I remember it was a
01:26:11.040 little bit, I overdid it, but there was a moment of suspicion, but I was getting out of the car.
01:26:15.040 Anyway, so that was that. It's like that movie, what's his name?
01:26:19.360 Austin Powers. Yeah.
01:26:20.880 Yeah.
01:26:21.520 Agadelic. Yeah. Yes. I'm Dr. Evil, though. Some days, I think. Hey, by the way, that is the
01:26:27.520 Brandenburg Gate behind me. If you can see over my left shoulder, that is the Brandenburg Gate. History.
01:26:34.480 Now that the sun's down, we'll. Oh, yeah. It's a little bit more. Yeah.
01:26:41.280 So. You shagged her all night long. Yeah.
01:26:45.440 However, in reality, I did. I knew I was. That's what you told them.
01:26:50.480 Just what I told them. So now they think you're a playboy study type.
01:26:55.920 Now they go back. They report to Brennan and Comey. Everything's cool.
01:26:59.440 So I waited a couple of meetings and I waited. I had this work. Oh, no, no, no.
01:27:06.400 No. I wait a week later. I met them again for. And I feel terrible my whole life.
01:27:11.280 I've kept this behind. It's the honor of my life that I got asked to do stuff for my government.
01:27:16.560 Honor my life and that I had a small role in a number of peace events and peace conversations
01:27:21.760 was a huge honor in my life. I hate tattling on them like this, but here we are as a country.
01:27:28.800 The country needs to know the truth. And this is what happened. Yeah, absolutely. It's time.
01:27:33.440 About a week later, we met for the extended debriefing. And I carefully plotted out the night
01:27:39.200 before. When you do one of these, they sit there and they take notes on every little thing you say.
01:27:43.520 And I created, I didn't tell the story in a chronological way as I normally would. I was
01:27:50.160 kind of scattered in how I told it. She'd been for four days. We'd done this and that. There was
01:27:54.960 this one night I made her lobster linguine with post lobster. There was another time we went for
01:28:00.320 a drive to a gun race. It's all these different events I scattered. But if you took the notes,
01:28:06.240 oh, and if you took the notes and fit them together, somewhere in there, I told them I had
01:28:15.280 gotten her very drunk. You're laying out a crime scene. I'm laying out a crime scene
01:28:21.840 that I got her very drunk and then introduced her to pot. Now, Maria is the purest. She was the
01:28:28.560 Greater Moscow Powerlifting Champion. She doesn't smoke pot. She doesn't do anything like that.
01:28:33.120 But I told her I got her to try some pot and she tried it and liked it. And then I slipped her a
01:28:38.480 Mickey. Basically, I slipped her as a joint that was true. I got from one of your Hollywood friends.
01:28:43.760 I used to be friends with Susan Sarandon, believe it or not. And Hollywood people always have the best
01:28:49.600 best weed. So I actually borrowed one from her and kept it. And so I, but I told them
01:28:58.000 that I got her completely blotto. And while she was out, I questioned her for like an hour and or 45
01:29:06.320 minutes and could find no discrepancies while she was completely smashed. But what it also, if you,
01:29:13.600 now that's, that's a little edgy. You don't talk that way about stuff you do in the US. We are the all,
01:29:19.920 we are the, our, our guys are the Eagle Scouts. And it's a disadvantage in this world. Oh, because
01:29:27.200 that's not how the other sides play. But our guys, you don't do stuff like this in the US. But it was
01:29:32.720 so important. It was national, this, that, and I slipped it in in different ways. But what I also
01:29:38.480 slipped in was that on the third night was that she was there was the night that we started having sex
01:29:45.120 again. Well, and I did just at the very end. And then just as I was leaving, again, not really
01:29:52.160 giving them, I gave it in this very deliberately confused disjointed way. But I did it constructed
01:29:59.040 it. So that after I left, when they added the pieces together and put them all together, what I
01:30:04.240 was saying was, on the third day, she was there, I had taken her for a drive, taken her to gun range,
01:30:10.800 drive, got her a bit drunk at a restaurant, got her home later, made her this lobster,
01:30:16.320 like any dinner, got her completely smashed, introduced her to pot, tricked her, got her wasted,
01:30:23.280 questioned her for 45 minutes, and found no discrepancies. And then I shagged her. Now,
01:30:29.680 if that's what I'm saying, if that's what all the clues piece together and tell that narrative,
01:30:34.800 what is that, Roseanne? Roseanne
01:30:37.920 Roseanne Well, I suppose, legally, that's rape.
01:30:40.400 That's rape. That is absolutely rape. The whole essence of our tradition is consent.
01:30:47.120 Roseanne Yeah, you drugged her and got her drunk.
01:30:49.920 Roseanne Right. Everything is consent. And I have a very
01:30:52.800 woke niece. I have a very woke niece who says, Patrick, you can't tell this story without
01:30:57.440 explaining that, you know, you can't just gloss over it. And for the youngsters,
01:31:00.960 Roseanne You created a crime scene for them to put together
01:31:05.120 that they're like, Oh, my God, this guy we trusted and sent there rape somebody.
01:31:10.080 Roseanne Rape and they're going to be reporting it to whom?
01:31:12.800 Roseanne Brennan and Comey On videotape later on videoconference later that day.
01:31:19.600 Roseanne Why do I do this?
01:31:25.920 Roseanne Because they sent you there?
01:31:32.480 Roseanne Well, let's find out how Brennan
01:31:34.640 and Comey are going to react to that.
01:31:36.000 Roseanne Oh, yeah.
01:31:38.400 Roseanne Get it?
01:31:39.680 Roseanne Get it reported later?
01:31:41.120 Roseanne I got out of the room. That's why I told it disjointedly. If I had told it in this clear way,
01:31:47.600 and they understood that's what I was saying while I was in the room, they would have jumped down my
01:31:51.200 throat. Are you kidding? These were men.
01:31:53.120 Roseanne How long did it take them to figure out?
01:31:56.160 Roseanne Well, I figured it would take 10 minutes.
01:31:59.120 Roseanne I designed it. I thought it would take at least a few minutes, maybe 10 minutes is what I
01:32:05.520 told myself. They're going to check. They're going to double check their notes, compare it. They're
01:32:09.200 going to say, Oh, my God, what Bert is saying is this is what happened. But by then I was gone.
01:32:15.360 So when I actually only fit the last piece or two in just as I was like, putting my coat on or
01:32:20.080 something like just at the very end, I wanted to beat feet. So when they put it together, I wasn't
01:32:25.120 in the room. Because what I wanted them to do was go back and report it to Brennan and Comey.
01:32:30.960 And then let's see what Brennan and Comey do.
01:32:33.040 Roseanne Right.
01:32:34.240 Roseanne You with me?
01:32:36.080 Roseanne Yes.
01:32:36.320 Roseanne It's a sting.
01:32:38.640 Roseanne It's a sting. And the next time I'm just in case you're wondering, Maria
01:32:44.720 Boutin has already confirmed everything. I don't want to tell you that. But well, she's already
01:32:50.640 confirmed that I was just that none of this happened. But anyway, the when I meet them again,
01:32:58.720 a week or two later, I meet with them. And there's hatred in their eyes. And their faces are said we used
01:33:05.760 to be, you know, amiable to each other, very professional guys. But there's hatred in their
01:33:10.720 eyes. And their notebooks are out. And they're being super formal and professional. But they
01:33:15.920 don't say a damn word about it. Which tells us what?
01:33:19.120 Roseanne No way.
01:33:19.920 Roseanne Tells us what? You smarty pants.
01:33:23.680 Roseanne Tells us that they don't say, what did Brennan and Comey do?
01:33:26.640 Roseanne They're protecting themselves.
01:33:29.600 Roseanne They're sweeping under the road?
01:33:32.400 Roseanne Yeah. Brennan and Comey are saying, listen,
01:33:35.600 Roseanne Agents, we don't give a good goddamn if Patrick
01:33:39.680 Byrne drugged and raped Maria Butina. We got a Russian hoax to set up here. We need them.
01:33:43.760 Roseanne That's right.
01:33:44.480 Roseanne That's right. You don't say a
01:33:46.640 damn thing about this to Byrne. You don't ask him a question. You don't say a peep.
01:33:51.360 And that's why the next time we meet, they're sitting there with their jaws clenched and being
01:33:55.760 professional. And they're just going on as if, but they sit, they there's, they're sitting,
01:34:00.640 they're thinking they're sitting with a rapist. They're thinking that they're sitting with a guy
01:34:05.360 who, and so they hate me, but they're not showing it, but they're showing none of their normal.
01:34:10.880 And that tells us that Brennan and Comey said, you don't say a damn word. You don't ask a follow
01:34:15.440 up question, nothing. We got something more important going on here, agents. We got a Russian
01:34:19.520 hoax to set up.
01:34:20.640 Roseanne We have to frame an innocent president of the United States.
01:34:24.640 Roseanne So I decided to take a step further. You're ready for this one?
01:34:29.840 Roseanne Oh, yeah.
01:34:31.120 Roseanne I don't want to. Am I boring you? Just let me know.
01:34:34.640 Roseanne Oh, hell no. I will let you know when I'm bored, but I ain't yet.
01:34:38.800 Roseanne I say, you know,
01:34:45.040 Nate, I wait till they come back. A couple of meetings later, they say,
01:34:48.720 Nate I say, meanwhile, through the telephone and stuff with Maria, I'm being lovey-dovey. I'm
01:34:55.040 sending her poetry. We're sending you a lovey-dovey text, all this stuff. And I know it's all being
01:34:59.600 read, of course. And I mean, and I said, but they come back a meeting or two later. And they said,
01:35:05.440 the folks back East want to know, can you really do this without falling in love? And I said, go ahead.
01:35:13.520 Amy That's so twisted. Cause it's like, can you really
01:35:18.880 uh, rape somebody without falling in love?
01:35:21.280 Nate Can you really be manipulating her and playing these games with her without
01:35:26.640 caring about it? And so I told you.
01:35:31.520 Roseanne So Ma, you know, we, we talk about liver health and your fatty liver and all that stuff all
01:35:37.760 the time. And we, we did an ad recently and it said, we throw everything at our livers. And I did the
01:35:42.320 usual smoking and drinking pretty much everything you and I do, but there was a thing called statins
01:35:47.680 and we had no idea what it was. Well, I talked to Eli, my best bud. I hadn't talked to him in a long
01:35:52.240 time. He actually went to the doctor and got his body checked and, uh, his heart didn't come back
01:35:57.600 right. Cause he got vaccinated, but I can't tell him that. But anyway, long story short, a statin helps
01:36:02.480 you with blood pressure. It's a blood pressure medication. So he's on him now. And I looked him up.
01:36:06.960 He's trying to be healthy and I'm happy for him. But now I know that while he's taking care of a
01:36:12.720 heart issue, he's now probably doing a little bit of damage to his liver and kidneys and all that stuff.
01:36:18.480 So I actually turned him on to this product outside of the podcast and said, if you're
01:36:21.760 going to be taking statins, they mentioned that this is good. He looked it up and he ordered
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01:37:37.520 RB. I decided to crank it up one more notch. They said when they came and a couple of meetings later,
01:37:45.600 they said, can you really do this? The folks back East want to know, can you do this without falling in
01:37:49.040 love? I said, so I remember how I told you when I was sick with cancer in my 20s. I did graduate school.
01:37:57.040 I got a PhD in philosophy from Stanford and Stanford was fabulous to me. Stanford philosophy was a big
01:38:03.760 part of my life. We got it. We're not so friendly these days, but they were, I have a PhD in philosophy.
01:38:09.840 So I, so when they said, can you really do this without falling in love? I said,
01:38:15.280 Frederick Nietzsche said that philosophers don't really fall in love. It's like seeing delicate
01:38:20.880 little hands on a cyclops. Can you imagine a monster with tiny, dainty little hands,
01:38:26.400 how ridiculous that would be? So yeah, you tell the folks back East, if they send word,
01:38:30.880 I'll cut this chick's head off, bury her in the Utah desert. No one's going to know a thing.
01:38:34.960 Oh boy. What do they do?
01:38:40.880 Actually, that's some good news. That's some good news. Three federal agents signed,
01:38:48.400 and I'm pleased to report the good news. Three federal agents jumped from their chairs
01:38:54.720 simultaneously into gunfighter crouches. They were in gunfighter crouches and one reached behind his
01:39:01.520 back. And I heard something click out of a holster. But they were like standing, crowding on me. I'm
01:39:09.920 still standing and crowding. And they say, Hey, hey, Byrne, let us be perfectly clear. We don't care
01:39:18.240 what orders come down from DC. If you harm a hair on Maria Bettina's head, we're going to kill you
01:39:24.400 ourselves. Do you hear me? And I said, Yes, sir. Got it. Got it. No murdering. No murdering Maria.
01:39:32.080 I got it. I really did say that. Wow. That is good news so far. Isn't it? And they said,
01:39:40.400 we don't care what order. They literally said, the only word I'm not sure they used was Bettina. I
01:39:45.440 think they actually said, if you harm a hair on Maria's head, we're going to kill yourselves. Like,
01:39:50.000 they knew her herself, themselves. I think they thought they, they're, they're good, honest agents
01:39:55.360 who got pulled like me into this whole, we, we woke up one day and discovered we were in the middle
01:40:00.400 of all this. We thought we were doing real national security work until this crap starts going on like
01:40:06.160 this. So they told me that. But why I, why do I do that? That's like taking that little sting I did
01:40:13.680 before with the aggravated rate, by the way, when you be at my, my woke cousin wants me to use this
01:40:20.000 to remind people, the whole essence of rate is that it's not consent. You have to get someone's
01:40:25.680 consent and, and who gives, this is why it's so important. Like there was a Stanford swimmer who got
01:40:33.200 assaulted a girl a decade ago. And he said afterward, and she was completely blown out. And he said
01:40:37.840 afterwards, look, she, she gave her consent. She was drunk. She was totally drunk, but she gave her
01:40:42.960 consent. He'd even lifted her shirt while she was like, and, and taking pictures and text it to his
01:40:48.560 friends. So he, she, he, he knew she was blocked that lotto that she, and how odd it was that he
01:40:56.400 said she, she consented. She, yeah, she was drunk, but she, he means he doesn't understand the only
01:41:02.960 agents who can give consent are rational agents. Right. And a drunk woman is not a rational agent.
01:41:10.960 Neither it's saying a drunk woman gave her consent is like saying my cat gave its consent to something.
01:41:16.560 Right. Or you can make your cat go along with something, but it's not consent. And I only
01:41:20.560 mentioned that because in recent years, this whole child sexuality thing has come to the fore. And the
01:41:26.960 simple argument is a child isn't a, is not a rational agent. A child cannot consent. You can make
01:41:33.200 not go along with things, but it's not consent. So the philosophical answer just nips this whole thing in
01:41:38.800 the bud. And I wish that we did more of it. It's all, it's exactly the same as rape. There's no such thing as
01:41:44.400 consent from a non-racial agent. So anyway, there I was offering them, I had, and what makes rape
01:41:53.440 aggravated is when it's, when you, when the person's drunk. So when you've got that, so I believe I'm not
01:42:00.320 a lawyer for that. So I, that had them thinking I'd committed this horrible crime. Then I supercharge it
01:42:06.160 when I offered to murder her. There's no way the U S government is going to let that slide. Let me tell
01:42:13.920 you, no one is going to let that slide. So now what are they going to do about it?
01:42:21.200 That goes back and it was studied for, and I, so basically,
01:42:26.800 shall I summarize and, and bring this to a point in this part of this story, a point
01:42:30.400 that we turn back over to you. I knew that the deep state I'd figured out the path we were walking
01:42:36.880 on. They were using me thinking I was helping them with national security and peace and so forth.
01:42:43.200 They were using me to set up the Republicans. Then they used me to set up Hillary Clinton.
01:42:48.240 Then they threatened my life. I'm, I'm walking down this path. So what I did by doing that was I
01:42:55.280 took a chainsaw and I saw sawed a tree. So it fell across that path. So the whole Russian collusion
01:43:02.320 thing had to stop the Russian setup, whatever they were doing with me and Maria, all that had to stop.
01:43:08.800 Or else in the bow in the depths of the deep state, some demon was going to have to sign off
01:43:17.280 for any of this stuff to continue. Some demon was going to have to sign off
01:43:22.320 on the aggravated rape and possible murder of a woman they knew to be innocent.
01:43:29.680 You want to know what happened? What happened?
01:43:33.680 Two weeks passed. They came back and somebody had signed off on the aggravated rape and possible
01:43:41.040 murder of a girl they knew to be innocent. They had me to continue to date her for five more months.
01:43:45.680 And so that there's your deep. So they had, they had me dated for five more months. But if you want
01:43:56.640 to know who's behind everything, find out who signed off on the aggravated rape and murder of
01:44:00.480 Maria Latina. I've been told this is the biggest secret in government that like there's a task force
01:44:05.760 preparing the world for when this secret gets out. And because it is so the story I'm telling,
01:44:11.360 which has all been verified, and it's all true, is so disruptive to the brand of America,
01:44:18.080 that they're like trying to figure out how to spin this. But someone in the bowels of the deep state
01:44:24.000 signed off on the aggravated rape and possible murder of an innocent woman so that we could continue
01:44:29.920 setting up this Russian collusion delusion, so as to trap the Republican Party, having already
01:44:36.080 trap the Democrat Party with this $18 million bribe from Hillary Clinton that I facilitated that turned
01:44:42.240 out to be so she could be blackmailed. But for them to continue that, someone had to sign off on the
01:44:49.040 aggravated rape and murder of a girl they knew was innocent. That's just what someone did. They had
01:44:54.320 me date her. And after five more months, she did want to be with me in Utah. They said, No, no, we're learning
01:45:00.560 too much. Break off with her. We're learning too much by seeing who she has dinner with around Washington,
01:45:06.960 D.C. And she's putting pictures of it all on Facebook. Nothing was covert. You know, the FBI
01:45:13.040 later made an argument, Well, that's bad. It's because she's human terrain mapping. And she was
01:45:18.080 talking to a foreign senator, she did it taking direction. Anyway, taking hints from a foreign senator,
01:45:23.760 who knows, I won't get into the question of what she was. And it was great. You know, how gray it was
01:45:29.600 half of Washington is doing that kind of stuff for foreign governments. But setting all that aside,
01:45:35.360 what's important, just like my Wall Street story, is how did the government react? And I put them in
01:45:40.560 the position for the Russian collusion delusion to pass any further than October of 2016.
01:45:47.440 Somebody in the deep state had to sign off on the rape and murder of a girl they knew was innocent.
01:45:53.600 And why that's funny is what else happened in October 2016, Roseanne? And I understand you've
01:46:00.320 become friendly with President Trump. I remember you guys were not so friendly years past, I heard,
01:46:06.880 but you've become...
01:46:07.360 No, we were friendly. You know, always in Hollywood, always friendly.
01:46:11.360 He's a good guy. I like him. And I became warmer towards him from the moment he became president,
01:46:20.800 and the baboons started going after him for any little thing he said, I started to really
01:46:28.160 sympathize and like him more and more. But I've really come to, and I've apologized for,
01:46:32.880 I said some really nasty... Right before the election, I was in an interview, and I was asked,
01:46:38.000 what do you think of Hillary Clinton? And I said, oh, she's terrible. She can't be president. She
01:46:41.760 belongs in an orange jumpsuit. I can't tell you... Oh, just trust me. She can't be president. And I
01:46:46.320 said, well, what do you think of Donald Trump? And because I'd always been even-handed and never...
01:46:51.840 I had never taken one side or the other, I immediately said, oh, he's terrible too. He's
01:46:56.800 just this big blowhard. He just runs his mouth. Oh, he's terrible too. And I said nasty things like
01:47:02.000 that. And I wish I hadn't. I kind of got... I made a mistake. It's because I...
01:47:06.720 Well, you didn't know. Well, I bashed Hillary.
01:47:10.400 So I felt I had to bash him. And he heard about it. And he let me know. He knew about it. He was
01:47:14.480 angry. But some of it, I felt he wasn't my style. And I'm like a quiet Northern Yankee. And he's this
01:47:21.200 brash New Yorker. I agreed with him on policy, but his stylistically, he wasn't my guy. But I have to
01:47:29.200 say, I've really, I came to like him anyway. And more and more I have over the years, and none of that has
01:47:35.280 anything to do with what I'm doing. I'm doing this now because it's the right thing. But anyway,
01:47:40.560 so where we left things was they now, they signed off on that. They had me date her for five more
01:47:47.680 months once she wanted to break up, or no, once she wanted to be with me at the end, they said,
01:47:52.160 break your heart, tell her because we're learning too much having her do this in DC. So I broke off again.
01:47:58.240 A year later, 15 months later, I think it was when Trump met Putin, the day they met,
01:48:09.760 a couple hours, it was maybe July of 2018, hours before Trump met Putin, just a couple hours,
01:48:17.920 the FBI swoops in, I think they had a CNN ban, as always swoop in and arrest Hillary,
01:48:23.920 arrest Maria Butina at her boyfriend's apartment in DC, and make this big fanfare about it. We've
01:48:30.640 discovered this Russian spy. She's, you know, Hollywood central casting a striking redhead.
01:48:36.080 There's all these pictures of her, right, sniper rifles. They have this and look at this tape,
01:48:42.720 she interacted with Donald Trump in a Freedom Fest convention in Vegas in 2015. Look, she's asking,
01:48:48.880 she is a spy. And they played that tape 1000 times to associate them. The whole thing was
01:48:54.720 producer driven. You know what I mean about like rock groups? You know, like the Spice Girls. No one
01:49:01.440 the Spice Girls aren't for girls who became friends and made music. There's some producer somewhere who
01:49:05.760 said, let's have a group that's four hot chicks. And one will be sporty spice. One's scary spice. I don't
01:49:12.400 know all the spices. And, and then they write the music they write that. And then they go find the
01:49:18.400 girls to play the part. The whole thing that's called a producer driven group. Well, the whole
01:49:23.040 thing was producer driven since the day Maria landed in America, they knew all about her.
01:49:27.680 They knew about all the meetings, they knew about her dinners and putting them up on Facebook,
01:49:31.760 they had me open the doors, they had me schmooze some of them into place. The whole thing was
01:49:36.560 producer driven. Yet the day Trump meets Putin, in July of 2018. They swoop in at a restaurant,
01:49:45.520 oh my God, we've discovered this Russian spy in DC. And it's just, she was a perfect prop.
01:49:52.240 She was a perfect prop. Because by that point, Americans were starting to say how come this Russian
01:49:56.880 scandal doesn't seem to have any actual Russians in it. And then they they pull up this Russian who's
01:50:02.400 this redhead sniper rifle, boots, hot chick, and you know, she's Hollywood central casting.
01:50:08.560 She's just a prop for them to sell the whole Russian hoax.
01:50:13.360 Exactly. They sure did get away with it, didn't they? Nobody's been punished for it.
01:50:20.320 Well, I think if you want to find out who's beyond that, three, three federal agents, here's the,
01:50:27.280 here's the thing you need to know. Three federal agents have a document signed by somebody,
01:50:32.640 could be an assistant attorney general, could be Attorney General Loretta Lynch, could be Brennan,
01:50:37.920 could be call me, could, who knows, maybe it's who it is, sign off on it. Who signed off on that
01:50:45.520 is behind somebody pretty high up. It would be whoever signed off on that
01:50:52.400 is behind the Russian hoax is behind the whole click Hillary Clinton, you know, bribery and blackmail.
01:51:00.160 And I think if if you share my beliefs about what's happening in the last four years is a color
01:51:05.120 revolution, and this and you see how COVID fits into it, and the suppression of hydroxychloroquine
01:51:12.400 and ivermectin and the preference for this vaccine that ain't even a vaccine, which the Ninth Circuit
01:51:17.680 has just confirmed, how it all fits into it, and Antifa and the rigged election, I think, and this
01:51:26.240 cancelization, normalization of cancel culture, this is all one big psyop to take down the United
01:51:32.640 States. I can, I can promise you it's not a theory. There was a coup that began around Thanksgiving of
01:51:39.760 2015. And the names used with me when these assignments started getting weird, were Comey,
01:51:45.600 Brennan, and eventually Obama as the, however, again, it's quite possible. It's people in the
01:51:52.880 shadows. And those names were being used to get me to do stuff. However, there's a simple way to find
01:51:58.320 out. The Senate could find out who signed off on the rape and murder of Maria Bettina. And I think
01:52:03.920 we'll get that we'll get to who's behind the Russian hoax, who's behind the whole Hillary Clinton,
01:52:09.360 all bribery, that whole investigation going nowhere, but being used to set her up so they could control
01:52:16.320 her. Who's behind this 2020 color revolution we're going through? Go find out who signed off on the
01:52:21.840 rape and murder of Maria Bettina. Well, who signed over the United States sovereignty to the UN?
01:52:27.520 Well, you tell me. Which aspect do you mean? Are you talking about this recent World Health
01:52:37.120 Organization stuff? Well, they haven't done that one quite yet. But, you know,
01:52:45.200 somebody signed over the whole internet and stuff like that to the UN. A lot of our powers, a lot of our
01:52:51.680 border issues. A lot of people coming over our border are people from the UN. Nobody ever talks
01:52:59.040 about that. But you know what? You're going to come back. And next time you come back, will you tell us?
01:53:08.000 I'll tell you some big secrets next time I come back. In fact, I think we ought to take,
01:53:12.720 we've spoken enough, I think you and I ought to film the next episode and then put it in a can.
01:53:18.080 Yeah. Just in case anything happens to me. I'm over here in lovely Germany.
01:53:24.640 Just in case anything, in Berlin. But I don't know. Let's get back together in a couple days.
01:53:32.320 Do you want to give us one big secret to end the show or you want to wait? I'm not going to push.
01:53:36.960 He's given us a lot of good secrets.
01:53:39.440 Is there any more? I have to push as the producer. It's my job.
01:53:43.600 What I would say is more secrets. Read the book closely before we talk again.
01:53:50.400 I've only given you the first half of the book. There's another 50, 40% of the book full of many
01:53:56.160 more secrets to discuss. So let's get together. We're going to put the book in a graphic and
01:54:01.040 you know, I'll, I'll talk about it a little bit too, all the time, but you know, I need to,
01:54:09.280 I know what you're saying though, but I want you to, to say it because there's much more to it.
01:54:16.960 And it goes back to crossfire hurricane too. Doesn't it cross? Well, I don't.
01:54:22.480 Uh, yeah. Well, crossfire hurricane started in July of 2016. And Peter Strzok said in a podcast
01:54:30.000 a couple of years ago, they've gone through all these different explanations of what made them,
01:54:34.080 what was their predicate to start it. And he's finally come out and said, it was Maria Butina.
01:54:39.840 We learned about Maria Butina in July of 2016. And we, and that's what got us to start crossfire
01:54:45.040 hurricane in late July of 2016. It's a flat lie. They, I I'm, it's not a theory. I'm a participant.
01:54:52.160 I'm a witness. They knew about her in July of 2015 and they were all over her like, like, uh, white on
01:54:58.800 rice for a year. But the, the Durham report correctly reports everything that happened from July of 2016
01:55:06.160 forward, but it buries all of this. And it's effectively, it's like volume two of a two volume
01:55:11.840 report. And they kept volume one hidden is effectively what the Durham report is. So you
01:55:17.280 follow this. Well, I'll read the book. We'll chew on it and we'll come back. We'll, we'll film the next
01:55:26.160 one and we'll see where it goes. And I just want to make sure you understand the four parts. So there's
01:55:32.080 the setup of the Russian hoax. There's the setup of the Hillary Clinton bribing blackmail. There's the,
01:55:39.040 there's the, the flashback that I was actually instructed by the Senate Judiciary Committee
01:55:45.680 in 06, who told me they had a power that transcended every power within government
01:55:50.160 to infiltrate and disrupt the deep state. And that gives us chapter four. I tricked the,
01:55:55.840 here's the short way to say it, who's ever really behind it, behind all these things. And I, and
01:56:02.320 is I tricked them or him or her, whoever, into signing off on the rape and murder of a girl they knew was
01:56:08.800 innocent. And why that's so funny, Roseanne, is that was the month, October, 2016 was also the
01:56:14.720 month where your friend, Donald Trump got in a whole lot of trouble for saying something locker
01:56:20.240 room to another guy, you know, as if women, I, as if women don't talk a little dirty to each other
01:56:26.720 when they're alone. I've been in groups of five or six women when they forget a guy's there. Let me
01:56:30.880 tell you, they're, they sell things a lot. They're way worse than we are. That's the truth.
01:56:35.600 Yeah. So that's really, uh, and so the same month he got in trouble for saying you can grab
01:56:41.280 them by your own, that someone in the deep state signed off on aggravated rape and murder in order
01:56:48.080 to continue this domestic political espionage we were hatching. Is that the final one?
01:56:56.080 Her internet. So, um, I'll go get her back, but, uh, can I just ask you one question before she comes back?
01:57:02.240 Sure. When I, when we had you on the old podcast, that was during the recount, or I think it was
01:57:06.880 December during the contested election. Is, is there any update on that? Or is that just in the,
01:57:12.160 you've kind of moved on from the whole. Oh, no. In the next, in the next, uh, here she's back.
01:57:18.960 Oh, the next time we talk, we'll be talking about the election. You give me another, this was a two hour
01:57:24.160 interview. The next time we talk, I'll, well, maybe by then you'll have found out who set up,
01:57:32.240 who signed off on the rape and murder. And the next time we talk, we're going to be talking about
01:57:36.160 elections. And that's why we had you on the first time. And that's really, to me, that's the most
01:57:44.800 important thing. Cause if that, if we can really get people to understand what really happened in 2020,
01:57:50.080 like we all know the whole thing crumbles for the other side. Hey everyone. Part two will continue
01:57:56.400 next Thursday. And that's when things get crazy.
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