The Roseanne Barr Podcast - August 29, 2025


Declassifying Presidential Sex Slavery W⧸ Cathy O'Brien | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #113


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 22 minutes

Words per Minute

148.6597

Word Count

12,295

Sentence Count

926

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

In this episode, I sit down with my oldest and dearest friend, Kathy O'Brien, to discuss the Epstein scandal and why we should all wake up and do our part to stop the globalist agenda.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's a good thing God brought you here because, you know, we intend to liberate you here because
00:00:04.820 you're all slaves. And mostly to animals who are not slaves to bullshit the highest forms of
00:00:10.820 living beings on this planet. Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.
00:00:20.820 Here we are. And you know how I love to talk to geniuses. I have the genius of all geniuses.
00:00:28.920 As a matter of fact, I have to tell this story. My mom used to run a daycare and she had this little
00:00:34.120 boy there. And he told my mom, boys have a penis and girls have a virginius, which I just always
00:00:43.840 loved. And my guest today is a virginius, a woman who she's a woman among women. She's like top level
00:00:55.800 woman. She's the reason we broke through the curtain of bullshit that was holding us down
00:01:03.760 since, I don't know, since right after World War II, Operation Paperclip. She's the one that exposed
00:01:13.220 it all and why we are where we are today, why we have Trump as our president, why we're all fighting
00:01:18.680 the good fight for the sake of the children of this world. She's my oldest and dearest friend,
00:01:24.180 Kathy O'Brien. Hi, Kathy.
00:01:26.760 Hi. It's so good to be here with you.
00:01:29.840 Second time you've been.
00:01:32.040 Yeah, this is the second time. But the first time in two years, which we were saying we got
00:01:36.840 to do another one. We did that Sean, what's his face?
00:01:40.060 Yeah, that was that we've done some great interviews together, but I'm looking forward
00:01:46.700 to being together, you know, eye to eye with you again, where, you know, we're in the same
00:01:52.520 room. It's been too long since we've actually been together. And I'm looking forward to that
00:01:57.120 because you're such an inspiration and a genius and so fun to be with. And our conversations
00:02:03.720 are always so profound and deep. So I'm looking forward to that. And I'm also looking forward
00:02:09.340 to what information we can bring to light together today.
00:02:13.700 Yeah. Yeah. Let's jump right in. Jake, what was the question you asked her? Because I said,
00:02:19.800 we got to start with that. It was about, was it about Epstein?
00:02:22.880 Well, I, it was about specifically the handling of the Epstein files by Pam Bondi and Cash and Trump
00:02:30.120 and this administration. Cause I bring it up every week on this podcast. I'm not happy with the
00:02:34.240 direction, but mom, you always tell me there's this greater plan in place. So I asked Kathy during the
00:02:39.340 the pre-interview what she thought. And that was my question. Do you, are you, do you,
00:02:43.700 what do you think Kathy? That was my question.
00:02:46.960 Um, I'm excited by what's going on because, um, Mark and I used to discuss this at length. You know,
00:02:53.240 what would it take to unravel the new world order, this globalist agenda that's permeated all aspects
00:03:00.980 of society from education, churches, governments, um, it just really everything. They've, they've permeated
00:03:10.320 everything. What would it take to stop the corruption? What would it take to stop the dumbing down a
00:03:17.600 humanity into compliant little slaves in their globalist slave society agenda? And we realized that
00:03:26.820 ultimately, regardless of what happens on a political end, the most important part is going
00:03:33.500 to be up to each and every one of us to wake up and do our part, to realize that this global swamp
00:03:41.680 can't be drained from the top down. It has to be drained from the bottom up. And that's going to take
00:03:48.020 us all. And that's going to take us all reclaiming our free thought, free will, soul expression,
00:03:53.400 our strength of spirit, you know, where we align with each other and join on that level naturally
00:04:00.300 and start, um, restoring morality, decency, and the brilliance to the brains that we have been
00:04:10.580 blessed with. You know, it's, it's, it's time, but it's going to take all of us. So I'm not so upset
00:04:16.340 at what I'm seeing politically. It's going to take a long time for that system to clean up.
00:04:21.220 In the meantime, there are children being rescued everywhere from child sex trafficking rings,
00:04:30.120 the human trafficking, drug trafficking, especially child sex trafficking are the funding mechanism of
00:04:36.380 this globalist agenda. We need to defund the new world order, stop child sex trafficking. And that's
00:04:43.100 exactly what people are starting to do. So they're taking that action because the children can't wait for
00:04:49.060 this system to clean up. It's going to take a long time. We're seeing how long it takes. We're
00:04:53.900 seeing how long it takes to even just drag through one thread of this, um, tapestry with the Epstein
00:05:01.980 files. It's going to take a while. Do you specifically, what, last question. Do you just, I know we want
00:05:10.580 to get off the political and I agree with you about that. We all have to do this together, but
00:05:14.420 specifically this administration, Trump and Bondi and et cetera, are, are, are they doing the right
00:05:19.940 thing? I know they're arresting and doing other things, but in regards to the Epstein files and
00:05:23.440 that global system, do you feel happy that they're, they're tearing through it or are you think they're
00:05:28.820 covering it up or any of that? Cause I feel like they might be covering it up.
00:05:32.260 I, I definitely don't feel like it's being covered up. There's more involved in this than people
00:05:38.480 realize. There's the, the whole blackmail network. We need to know who's holding the blackmail for
00:05:45.340 what purposes, who are the perpetrators at the top of this? Who are these self-appointed, self-anointed
00:05:51.120 global leaders that are, um, dehumanizing humanity in order to align us with flat thinking AI and with their
00:06:00.320 flat thinking criminal agenda. You know, it's got to, it's got to stop. And in order to unravel all
00:06:06.820 that, you know, this is just one thread they need to pull. The blackmail tapes themselves are, um,
00:06:14.660 one form of evidence. We got to have a justice system to prosecute these, these pedophiles and
00:06:20.120 perpetrators through. We don't have a justice system in place yet. They've been running it for too long
00:06:25.800 to cover up their crimes against humanity. They invoke national security or anything else and just
00:06:30.780 keep going. So it's going to take a while. And right now what we need to know is what exactly is
00:06:37.180 this agenda all about? What are they doing with the children? How the, can this many children be
00:06:42.680 missing? What are they doing harvesting our children? What is the adrenochrome all about?
00:06:47.760 We need to get to the very bottom of this and take down the puppet masters at the top. So rather than
00:06:54.560 using, you know, now that this administration has got the hold of the blackmail tapes,
00:06:59.460 if they play another man's game and use blackmail to the blackmailers, it's not going to accomplish
00:07:06.700 as much as they can. If they just use their information gained as leverage against this whole
00:07:14.380 global network, that's been, um, gaining control for generations. Now it's going to take a while to
00:07:22.240 unravel. Okay. Well, Kathy, as a child, you were part of the building of that international
00:07:28.220 network, weren't you? Or you, you were used as a child sex slave in order to build that international
00:07:35.480 network of pedophiles that sit at top of every government and every NGO and everything, right?
00:07:43.620 Absolutely. And my, my uncle was, um, a part of the blackmail network and distributing the tapes.
00:07:52.500 And, and he was flying a lot of them to the Vatican. The Vatican has a huge vault of these
00:07:57.240 blackmail tapes. That's a big piece of a puzzle right there. And that's only one piece of this
00:08:02.060 puzzle. When we get to the top of, um, you know, who's, who's doing this and why we start to
00:08:08.480 understand. And having been exposed to that, I was used in the blackmail videos myself at the
00:08:13.940 Epstein Island of his time, Mackinac Island, Michigan. So, um, I was among these global
00:08:20.040 perpetrators and I know how far reaching this is, how deep it goes and how long they've been doing it
00:08:26.920 and getting away with it. You were, you were sold by your father into the MK ultra, uh, child
00:08:37.120 altering, terrorizing, uh, torture machine of, uh, the CIA, U S government, weren't you?
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00:10:31.180 keep us going. Yeah, I was. There's so many children that have been in a position like I was,
00:10:39.900 but there's not that many who've survived. I mean, look at all the people who've even tried to expose
00:10:45.080 this mess, how many have been dying. And, you know, we've got to get some justice restored to the
00:10:52.220 system and people need to start seeing some accountability for actions because right now
00:10:58.860 there's no need to first demand accountability, which the American people that seems to escape
00:11:06.400 them, that they have the right to demand of this government accountability for what's happened to
00:11:12.780 the children of this country and the children of this country and every country where these long
00:11:18.460 hands of crime have toppled governments to get at their kids, every evil thing that they have been
00:11:26.200 involved in. Don't you think because our tax dollars pay for it all that we have the right and the
00:11:32.100 responsibility to demand the accountability of our government?
00:11:40.400 Well, I think the people are doing it. You know, the people have been demanding it for a long time.
00:11:45.840 It's just the media is not giving us voice. They're not saying that we're being heard. You know,
00:11:51.600 so many of us were awake and aware 2016 that we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm in the voting
00:11:57.860 machine to put in a president who wasn't Hillary Clinton in her new world order, to put in a
00:12:03.300 president who exposed their funding mechanism of drug and human trafficking, showed us there was a
00:12:09.060 swamp in Washington, D.C. And that woke even more people up. Then in 2020, these perpetrators were so
00:12:16.180 desperate to regain control, they unleashed mind control massed as a virus on the global population.
00:12:22.460 Everybody got a taste of mind control. Then that raised awareness that much more because these
00:12:27.800 fools, they're so stupid, they messed up, and they told everybody to shelter at home. Mind control
00:12:35.400 needs to shut down neuron pathways in the brain. Trauma causes them to shut down. Fear causes them to
00:12:42.440 shut down. That's what they need to use. But where they made their mistake is having a shelter at home.
00:12:48.780 Because when people broke their routine patterns, it forced their brains to fire in new ways. And it got
00:12:55.000 those neuron pathways opening. So they made a big mistake. And people were sheltering at home and
00:13:00.360 saying, Hey, what are our kids being taught in the school system? What is this sexualization of
00:13:05.720 children going on? They started talking to each other. And it really just woke more people up. So,
00:13:12.600 you know, we've got this massive movement. Now, the Great Awakening is real. But like, like my daughter,
00:13:19.400 Kelly was saying the other day, you know, wow, that this Great Awakening is past critical mass. But now
00:13:25.800 people have a long way to go to catch up. There's a lot of information they've got to learn. There's a
00:13:33.000 lot they need to open their eyes to in order to be effective in dismantling this mess and preventing
00:13:39.000 it from ever happening again. So it's, it's, it's, it's quite a joke. Your book, transformation of America,
00:13:48.600 which is your testimony before Congress. You were detailing the child trafficking at the border, like
00:13:56.600 decades ago. That was part of your story too, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And my 1995 testimony for Congress, every bit
00:14:06.280 of it was validated. That's why national security was invoked on it. You know, clean members of law
00:14:11.800 enforcement and intelligence had, had it validated secret service. Now there's a lot of good people
00:14:18.680 in key positions who've been doing their best to dismantle this mess, fully realizing that until
00:14:25.560 people open their eyes and realize how vast manipulation has become to realize mind control,
00:14:33.080 sliding scale from the kind of torturous robotic MK ultra mind control, I experienced on a white
00:14:39.880 house Pentagon level to the kind of mind control MK ultra going on in Hollywood that you're aware of
00:14:47.560 to information control, because we all formulate our thoughts, opinions and actions based on what we
00:14:53.480 know. We need to know that knowledge base has been altered for a long, long time, very deliberately
00:14:59.000 to dumb us to dumb us down and to keep us from knowing how to take action ourselves. We've been conditioned
00:15:07.080 so long to look to big government, big pharma, big tech, big cult to cult religion to tell us how to live our
00:15:13.960 lives. But we forgot, we got all the power, you know, we forgot to look within and align with that divine within and
00:15:22.200 tap in to that power because that's, that's our victory. That's where we win. Um, that's where they
00:15:29.720 lose. That's what they're afraid we're going to do. So they instead keep us bombarded with trauma after
00:15:35.720 trauma, um, suppress, uh, truth and information. Um, even though the information on child sex trafficking
00:15:44.040 has come out, even though people have seen what's happening on our borders, how they're being turned into
00:15:49.160 a corrupted so-called child protective services system and then trafficked right from there, you
00:15:56.680 know, turned back up because the same people own the whole corrupt system. So people are
00:16:02.440 including the media, the media is what keeps us blind to it, right? Yes, they do. And then again, um,
00:16:11.000 the area that where I'm working in, um, speaking out nationally now all across the nation, um,
00:16:21.080 empowering people to be effective and helping the children because the people started taking action
00:16:26.360 themselves. When, when Trump was reelected this time, the obstacles that have been put in everyone's
00:16:34.680 way from being able to take action themselves have been removed. Yeah. The bureaucracy that
00:16:42.040 kept it all in place because that's how people were getting paid on their government jobs is to
00:16:47.080 keep the devilish, the satanic empire in place. That's what they were working for,
00:16:53.240 not the U S government or the people. Absolutely. And now the, the people are so fed up with that and
00:17:00.440 they're just taking action themselves. But as they're taking action, they're realizing they don't
00:17:05.320 know how to help these children. They can give them a safe place to be, but what do they do from
00:17:13.800 there? And that's the information that I'm sharing because, um, can you tell us about that
00:17:19.400 information and what you are sharing? And I know you're part of a whole growing network across this
00:17:24.440 country of basically moms and, uh, some dads and grandparents, but American citizens that are
00:17:31.640 offering, uh, redemption to these, to these, uh, children who've been so damaged. Yeah. The, the
00:17:40.600 information I used for healing was suppressed under national security. It's our birthright information,
00:17:47.000 but it was suppressed. Um, ever since the 1947 national security, when an act went into place
00:17:54.040 in the wake of the world war two, when we imported the Nazi and fascist scientists into the U S with
00:18:01.160 project paperclip with them came the formula for mind control. Well, our information on mind brain
00:18:08.040 function, that's our natural defense against mind control. Our ability to heal from any trauma was
00:18:15.240 suppressed and buried under national security. It was withheld from the mental health community,
00:18:22.120 the medical community from education system, pertinent information. The medical system doesn't have like
00:18:29.480 our subconscious never sleeps. If the medical community knew that in the course of surgery,
00:18:36.680 they could say, um, healing affirming thoughts instead of, you know, whoa, look at this mess,
00:18:42.920 you know, drama that only adds to, um, the difficulty in recovering from surgery. There's some very
00:18:50.360 simple mind brain functions that have been suppressed for a long time. When Mark saw it buried under
00:18:57.720 national security. I want to say your husband, I wanted to say your husband, Mark Phillips, who was a
00:19:05.480 white hat before they even had that word. Yeah. Um, and he, he was in, uh, doing business in China way back
00:19:15.000 when that was new. And the, isn't it the Chinese that told him about, uh, how, how so many, um, uh, business
00:19:24.680 folks from America coming there were, um, uh, actually compromised by pedophilia?
00:19:35.160 Yes. And there, there were those in, um, China that were doing all they could at the time to restore
00:19:41.640 free thought to the people. This was a global agenda and there was a global movement and, um,
00:19:48.520 they had alerted, uh, Mark to the fact that, um, my daughter Kelly and I were slaves. They, they had,
00:19:55.880 um, information on our circumstance and Mark decided to do something about it and, and lifted Kelly and I
00:20:04.120 right out of the Washington DC human trafficking swamp and handed us keys to our own mind, that
00:20:10.920 birthright information that was buried under national security. He liberated that, uh, buried
00:20:18.680 on purpose information for how to heal, right? He liberated that from the dark hats. He did. He
00:20:26.860 wasn't able to reveal it himself because he was bound by laws of sedition, but it was my experience to
00:20:33.660 heal with it. So, um, I could release the information. I'm not bound by any laws of sedition besides
00:20:39.960 it's humanity's birthright information about the resiliency of our body, mind, and spirit.
00:20:47.480 So yeah, I, not only have I released it in PTSD time to heal as you so well know, cause you, you wrote
00:20:55.800 the, on the, on the back of it, you know, uh, attesting to it since you had met Mark and knew about
00:21:03.280 these methods yourself. Um, this is just easy for anyone to self apply. So this is what I'm
00:21:09.940 teaching, uh, others right now, how to be effective in helping the children is for them to first
00:21:16.500 remember their own birthright information and then empower the children with it. It's on,
00:21:23.300 it's all such a natural process because, you know, ultimately we were made perfect. Our brains are
00:21:30.420 perfect. Our brains have so much healing capacity. Our bodies are perfect. We don't need 79 vaccines to
00:21:39.620 survive. What I just read the other day. The other day I read something where they're finding out that
00:21:46.260 dandelions have a property that kills cancer. There's so many simple ways. Um, when we go back to nature,
00:21:55.940 Kathy, can I ask you a question? Uh, real quick. You said Mark found this healing information was
00:22:03.380 buried under national security. We, I don't want to gloss over that cause that you have to tell me more
00:22:08.740 about that. That's fascinating. How was it, but what did he, he stumbled upon classified information
00:22:15.940 or what does that mean? He was in military intelligence and he saw there was ways that
00:22:21.700 the military understood we could heal from trauma and they buried it under national security.
00:22:26.580 Yeah. He was above military intelligence. Actually, he was very high up. Um, he, he could, um,
00:22:32.740 he could wear any hat and he saw how mind control was being used on the global population. He saw how it
00:22:39.060 was being used to, um, to overtake, um, nations. And he was very disturbed by the pedophile agenda,
00:22:48.900 which is really a mind control agenda because people didn't know the effects of trauma on the human mind,
00:22:55.940 that sexual abuse of a child prior to age five, while the brain is still forming creates a compliance
00:23:02.420 for the rest of their lives because it shuts down neuron pathways in the brain. And he,
00:23:08.420 he, if people had that information, they would understand that pedophilia is not a sexual preference.
00:23:14.980 It's not a perversion. It's a control mechanism and it's intended to dumb down humanity. We are
00:23:23.620 devolving because of the generational implementation of this. But in order for them to be able to use
00:23:32.260 mind control to that degree, they had to take away our knowledge that is our defense against it. They
00:23:38.820 had to take away our birthright knowledge on our own mind, brain function so they could manipulate us
00:23:45.060 by it and subject us to trauma after trauma. So when Mark saw that and it's humanity's birthright
00:23:53.460 information, he wanted to find a way to release it. And, um, it's, it's so important because
00:24:01.780 with that information buried under national security, the mental health community was taught to promote
00:24:11.060 the victim mentality to keep people locked into it, you know, to, if, if people aren't thinking free
00:24:18.500 and they're locked into that victim mentality, they stay in fear mode, they're in survival mode all the
00:24:24.660 time. Yeah. And they're in, if they perpetuate that very deliberately, um, then that has really
00:24:34.100 caused a lot of problems now for survivors who want to heal, but are given really bad therapy,
00:24:42.020 really bad information. And ultimately the answer is if you look outside yourself for answers,
00:24:49.620 then that's going to be more intrusive information in, and your brain is not going to accept it.
00:24:55.700 The brain is overwhelmed with this intrusion and shuts down. It won't heal. It needs to be safe
00:25:01.940 from intrusion. So, um, we don't need invasive therapy. We don't need, uh, these online therapy courses,
00:25:11.860 that artificial intelligence is offering. What the heck is that? You know, talk about looking outside
00:25:17.860 yourself, but not only that, they're collecting all the data on how to repress the information further
00:25:23.540 in order to keep people compliant and keep them from remembering secrets to keep them from remembering,
00:25:30.260 um, details of what goes on in the Epstein islands. And, um, you know, all these,
00:25:36.820 these victims that have been subjected to that, they can just shut them right down. You know,
00:25:41.620 they act like they're giving them therapy. They're only collecting information. They got the idea
00:25:46.020 from, um, from the Vatican, you know, go back to the confessionals, you know, and, and, and how the,
00:25:53.460 the mafia would go in there and tell all their sins and they blackmail them. You know what I mean?
00:25:58.740 It was, they've been in the blackmail business forever, you know? So they, they thought, well,
00:26:04.180 we'll just keep using that method and, um, get people to tell us their secrets and then,
00:26:09.700 you know, keep them repressed. So, um, anytime people look outside themselves,
00:26:15.860 they're being locked in to a victim mentality by design. We need to remember who we are,
00:26:22.740 why we're here, go within access, our simple, you know, resiliency and, um, and, and start reclaiming
00:26:32.340 our free thought, get our brains firing again, the way they're supposed to. We have, we have
00:26:37.780 brilliant minds. We need to take them back.
00:26:40.180 What a crime against humanity. What, what a horrible crime against humanity. All of this, uh, fake news,
00:26:50.740 fake science, fake everything, fake spirituality, fake religion, fake everything just to keep children
00:27:00.740 available for pedophiles. Yeah. And fake medical community. Look at it. You know, they, they, they,
00:27:07.780 they are trained and indoctrinated by big pharma who runs the schools, follow the money and they're,
00:27:16.180 they're training them to, to turn everything over to big pharma, you know? So they're making money by
00:27:24.100 treating the, you know, so-called illnesses that they usually create with the vaccines. They treat them,
00:27:30.740 them, but they don't cure anything. It's taking the resiliency of our physical healing away from the
00:27:39.380 whole medical community. So we got this assault on mental health.
00:27:45.380 It's a part of what Jeffrey Epstein did, because what he did on the island was, you know, I think
00:27:51.460 it, that stuff dwarfs what he really did, which was to, um, uh, change all the laws in the world about
00:28:03.540 money and invent a thing called vampire capitalism, which pretty much means that the human beings are
00:28:11.380 prey to the, uh, ones at the top of the financial pyramid. And yeah, they can make them sick and then
00:28:20.740 they can take bets on how they die or how they can quote unquote, treat their, uh, doctor caused
00:28:27.940 illnesses and make more money that way. The human beings are Soylent Green, basically that movie.
00:28:35.220 And he invented that. His financial crimes are far worse. Plus he, he wrote with the bankers, all,
00:28:44.900 all of these laws that destroyed national sovereignty of every country,
00:28:49.860 the banks. He, he was their, um, puppet. And, uh, of course all that goes to the people at the top,
00:28:58.500 which are the kings, the kings, the queens, the popes, the wizards, um, you know, the, uh, Nazis
00:29:08.980 of the fourth Reich. That's what the new world order is. And, uh, am I wrong, Kathy?
00:29:14.500 Well, it, that's the, you know, takes us back to the original question, Jake, you know, um, that
00:29:21.140 about why I'm not upset about how long this is taking with the Epstein files, because it's so much
00:29:27.380 more involved than most people realized. And there's so much more going on than, uh, than people realize
00:29:33.300 to dismantle this whole, um, global network that's been, been going on for so long. And that's just
00:29:41.460 Epstein's part. Yeah. You know, you get to the, the Clintons, let's say, you know, the, and George
00:29:47.460 Bush senior, what he did was just massive. There's, um, there's so many others and he's
00:29:54.660 just one, you know, and there's subpoena in the Clintons to testify what, you know, Epstein would
00:30:00.740 have testified against them. It's just, it, this is, um, I, I, I don't know what they expect to find
00:30:08.260 and what's really going on, but it, I don't even follow it because to me, it's a charade, um,
00:30:15.700 to get to a much, much, much bigger outcome in unraveling this mess because this effort to
00:30:22.500 unravel the new world order, the slave society agenda and restore free thought to humanity
00:30:30.020 as, um, has been going on for a long time. It's, it's been going on behind the scene. Now we're
00:30:36.980 seeing what they're doing a little bit, but a lot of it's smoke and mirror illusion because people
00:30:43.620 wouldn't understand the reality of what they're actually doing because it's so complicated.
00:30:52.180 They need to have the ABCs before they, you know, get to this postgraduate understanding.
00:30:57.700 Yeah, they really, the media and all the, even, you know, the internet, they, they hide,
00:31:05.380 they hide the real agents behind the, uh, mass murder of humanity. They continue to do that. Um,
00:31:14.420 um, and, uh, it's just a sickening. We are in a fight for our lives though.
00:31:22.260 We are, you know, it's in transformation of America, um, where George Bush at Bohemian Grove
00:31:28.180 said that if they lost control over the minds of the population, they'd reduce our numbers to a
00:31:33.460 more manageable size. So, um, and then you look back, um, all the way back to Gerald Ford,
00:31:39.220 when he was president and he had Henry Kissinger and George Bush and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld,
00:31:47.220 who gave us aspartame to dumb us down. And, you know, uh, Jack Villani, head of the motion
00:31:52.660 picture association of America controlling our information hit all of them in his cabinet.
00:31:57.780 He can look all the way back on, on the, um, Ford administration with Henry Kissinger. They came
00:32:05.700 up with the first depopulation agenda back then because they were concerned that they weren't, um,
00:32:12.420 managing the minds of the people well enough. That's when Jack Villani gave us the term conspiracy
00:32:18.740 theory for anyone questioning the media narrative. Wow. Yeah. Anyone who, who sees the truth is the
00:32:28.420 conspiracy theorist. Boy, that's a great reversal. They're just great at reversal. I mean, they're
00:32:35.540 great at it. Our, our old friend, Julia coined the phrase perverse reverse.
00:32:41.620 Yeah. Well, it's, it's like the, you know, with the term conspiracy theorist, they, they say that
00:32:49.060 about me, you know, and, and it won't come out of Wikipedia for anything, but the fact is, you know,
00:32:55.300 transformation of America, my, my 1995 testimony was censored under national security because every
00:33:01.940 bit of it had been validated, you know? So how, how can that, how can I be a conspiracy theorist if they
00:33:09.540 invoke national security? Do they invoke national security on conspiracy theories and a theory? I
00:33:16.500 mean, come on, if that's the case, then there's good excuse right there to revamp this so-called
00:33:21.380 national security act. Wow. Yeah. It's actually, everything's actually the opposite of what they
00:33:27.540 say. They, cause they reverse the truth. So it's like, uh, the national insecurity act is what it is.
00:33:34.580 Yeah. Yeah. Whenever they get scared. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the Patriot act is the, uh,
00:33:42.500 globalist anti sovereignty of America act. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Whatever they call it. We always
00:33:49.380 say this, whatever the, whatever they're doing is called, it's the opposite. Mom always says that.
00:33:54.180 And it comes in the, the ultimate is the bankers, all the banks are called, uh, trust and, uh,
00:34:02.100 fidelity. Fidelity and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. While they're stealing the blind and investment make bubbles
00:34:10.900 that then burst and buy up everything they stole from you. Dirt crisis. Can I ask a question to Kathy?
00:34:17.460 Do you mind? Uh, uh, uh, satanic ritual abuse, trauma-based mind control, what you're talking
00:34:25.060 about with pedophilia as a, as a mechanism of control though, is it satanic from the satanic
00:34:32.340 religion that they taught this to the Nazis that it works or is it the other way around? Or are they
00:34:36.980 just all kind of smart and go, Hey, if you traumatize a child, you can basically get what you want. It's
00:34:42.020 weird that I guess what I'm saying is that there's parallels with satanism and the world government.
00:34:47.460 Unless it's the same thing. Absolutely. Absolutely. Cause it's the scientific formula for mind
00:34:53.300 control. A trauma is the basis of it, you know? And, um, when you consider that the Hitler Himmler
00:35:00.900 research found there's no trauma more horrific than sexual abuse of a child prior to age five,
00:35:06.820 while the brain is still forming, they also found that right there next to it is satanic
00:35:12.420 ritual abuse because it's blood trauma. It's torture. It's, um, it's horrific to see
00:35:19.940 someone being murdered right in front of you, especially a child, you know, so you've got, um,
00:35:24.980 extreme trauma that's associated with that. And people like my primary MK ultra mind control
00:35:32.180 programmer, Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, who was part of the occult temple is set on military
00:35:38.100 basis for mind control purposes. Yeah. They, they got in there by saying freedom of religion
00:35:43.140 includes, includes Satanism. Yeah. Yeah. And he didn't even believe in, in, in satanic power
00:35:49.700 per se. He believed in his own power using trauma and a stun gun, you know? So, um, they, it's, it's,
00:35:57.780 uh, it's a compound usury situation of the effects of trauma. You know, you go back to the Spanish
00:36:04.340 Inquisition and the Crusades, they was, they were murdering people left and right who didn't comply
00:36:10.660 with the, the Vatican back then. So, um, all the way back then and the spoils of the war with the
00:36:17.380 children and those children, the Catholic orphanages were born and the children were being raised in there
00:36:23.700 to perpetuate the church, to perpetuate, to become the priests of the future. Um, and subjecting them
00:36:31.220 to more trauma made a more compliance. So they, they use the Satanism. And so you get, um, this, this
00:36:38.820 reversal, the, you know, perverse reverse again, the reversal of the Catholic mass into the, uh, Satanism.
00:36:46.260 And it, it causes, um, the, the brain to compartmentalize that much more. So that's why
00:36:54.500 they've been using it for a long, long time. They do it to Catholic children. They, they do it to
00:37:00.900 Catholic children. Incredibly incredible numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Really all religions, um, have, have been
00:37:09.780 infiltrated and, um, satanic abuse spans so many different versions of it, you know, even, even all
00:37:18.420 the way down to the Haitian voodoo and yeah, every religion, every religion is, uh, infiltrated, uh,
00:37:26.100 infiltrated and corrupted because of child sexual abuse to that. And then the, and then the job of
00:37:32.500 the community is to protect the pedophiles, not the children. Right. And it's everywhere in every religion.
00:37:39.780 It is, it is. And that's making it difficult because, um, the churches have been, um, infiltrated
00:37:48.020 and, and the people indoctrinated to, um, to, you know, give, give power away to evil. And,
00:37:58.340 you know, like it's, it's the ultimate control mechanism. It's not, we have been, um,
00:38:04.740 blessed with a victory. And it's satanic. It's satanic. I'm going to say this too. The satanic
00:38:10.580 part of it is that they tell them that's God. Oh, they do. They tell them that it's God. They
00:38:18.020 tell the children that Satan is as powerful as God, which he ain't. Evil is not as powerful as good.
00:38:25.460 It's not, it's an illusion. It's all an illusion. People always choose good. I mean,
00:38:31.780 if they're right in the head and the heart, they have to be forced to choose evil. That's the truth.
00:38:39.940 That's the mind control that, that is, that is when mind control is used because people,
00:38:46.260 when they're who they intended to be, who they know who they are and why they're here and have
00:38:52.020 that strength of spirit, then, um, that is these perpetrators greatest fear, you know,
00:38:59.460 haven't been around them deep in the swamp. That's what they fear the most is the strength
00:39:04.340 of the human spirit and the infinite power of love. It's the how highest vibration is the strongest
00:39:09.940 force. It's our victory. It's our natural victory. And they're afraid we're going to remember
00:39:17.380 that we have all the power and they only have as much power as we give them or let them steal.
00:39:22.740 In that regard, the mind control agenda is a spiritual warfare because the mind control is used
00:39:30.180 to keep us from tapping into that strength to remembering our power. It's, it's used to separate
00:39:36.980 us from that. Um, they can't possess it. They can't stop it. That'd be like dark creeping in on light.
00:39:44.180 They can't reach it. Um, it's too high of a vibration ever. Dark is incapable of destroying
00:39:51.220 light. You go in a room. It's you turn the light on. All the dark is gone. You don't go in a light
00:39:57.460 and turn the dark on. Right. I guess you turn the light off. I get trauma-based mind control.
00:40:04.820 That's what she's saying. That turns your light. Exactly. That's what it does. But it's internal
00:40:09.700 and we have light or we wouldn't be alive. Right. Yeah, that's right. And well, it's our birthright,
00:40:17.220 you know, it goes right back to birthright knowledge and, um, remembering who we are and
00:40:21.620 why we're here. Stop. Why are we here? Why are we here? Why are we here? Oh, to live the love we are to
00:40:32.180 unite, to, um, shine the light and expose what's going on in the darkness to stop this evil from
00:40:39.540 creeping in on humanity ever again. They have no business meddling with our brilliant minds and lives,
00:40:46.420 but they've been doing it a long, long time because, um, we haven't looked within to remember.
00:40:54.020 We've only looked outside ourselves to, you know, the big government, big pharma,
00:41:00.340 the self-appointed, self-anointed global leaders, the, um, big tech, big, um, cult to cult religion,
00:41:09.460 you know, telling us how to live our lives. We go within, we have it all. We remember,
00:41:16.740 and that is, is ultimately, I think a major purpose of, of life is to be able to live
00:41:26.100 the love we are, to be able to, um, reclaim that alignment, to align with the divine within,
00:41:35.140 not without, not outside us, to align with the divine within.
00:41:39.220 Yeah, because we are divine creations. We are. We are perfect being, and they don't want us to
00:41:46.340 know that in any way. I wanted to ask you, because you know so much about what was done to kids.
00:41:52.420 I wanted to ask you about another one of your, um, handlers or whatever you call it,
00:41:58.180 was Robert S. Byrd, right? And he brought, uh, that education into the schools of how to
00:42:05.940 teach kids what to think and not how to think, right?
00:42:09.780 Yeah, Byrd was in office for over 50 years. You know, we, we, we need to get some term limits
00:42:14.900 in Congress. That's ridiculous. They're not going to vote it in for themselves. You know,
00:42:18.980 people are going to have to wise up and demand it, but he was in for over 50 years
00:42:23.860 in the highest positions of power and influence, holding our country's purse strings,
00:42:29.220 deciding where money was going to be spent. And he made sure all of it went towards globalism.
00:42:34.500 While he spoke about the constitution for people to hear, he was eroding the constitution
00:42:40.660 with where the money was being spent. And, um, he made the states reliant on federal funding and
00:42:48.660 the education system. We don't need the federal government reigning over education. We need to
00:42:55.620 get it back to the states. We need to get it back to local levels and get parents involved again,
00:43:01.620 not have government dictate what's going to be taught in the schools. But he set it up that way
00:43:07.300 so that they could have their, cause there's not that many of them. They wanted those puppet masters
00:43:12.260 to be able to start manipulating everyone else. And they started indoctrinating the children in the
00:43:18.660 school system, teaching them what to think instead of how to think. And that was no accident because he
00:43:26.340 was also a Ku Klux Klan-er. Right. And so don't you think that a lot of, a lot of those government
00:43:33.780 things that he set up for, you know, federally, uh, controlled education were based on a hatred
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00:44:54.420 You can actually potentially save your own life with your own life insurance policy. It's a game
00:45:00.420 changer and I highly recommend you do it. It was just based on hatred all around.
00:45:06.420 You know, he was, he was my owner in MKUltra and was, he dictated all my actions. He became my owner
00:45:14.340 when I was 13 years old and I met him at the Epstein Island of its time, you know, Mackinac Island,
00:45:20.660 Michigan. He's the one who had an office in the FBI building in the mid eighties to set up the
00:45:26.420 National Center for Missing and Exploited Children as a catch net operation for traffic children so that
00:45:34.900 they could scoop them up and put them into the corrupted child protective services. Any court case
00:45:41.140 traffic? And then be traffic to Washington, D.C.?
00:45:44.900 Absolutely. And, and around the world. And, um, and however else they're going to harvest them and use
00:45:51.220 them. Like we said, it's always the opposite. So the Center for Exploited Children, of course,
00:45:56.020 that's how you know they're using it to exploit children. Yeah.
00:46:00.900 Yes, there's so many people.
00:46:02.260 Their names, their names, the shit they name stuff just gives them away, doesn't it?
00:46:06.900 They think we're that stupid. They think we're that brainwashed.
00:46:11.300 When we start to learn to listen, when we gain eyes to see, ears to hear, and soul to know truth
00:46:16.500 again, um, we'll start seeing through this illusion. There's so many children now that have been
00:46:22.180 medically kidnapped or, um, taken in, in, in illegal, immoral ways through a corrupted justice system
00:46:30.180 under the guise of national security and thrust into it. Everybody's experiencing,
00:46:35.300 everybody knows someone who's had a child taken into that custody. My own daughter was taken into
00:46:42.260 the corrupt system that I saw a bird setting up. And it was a absolute outrage. And ultimately,
00:46:50.260 that's what compelled me to start speaking out to begin with, was to draw attention to her plight.
00:46:56.020 It wasn't, um, it wasn't hatred. Hatred's low vibration. That's their vibration. They're not
00:47:02.020 going to get hatred and fear from me. Um, I'm going to live the love I am that's out of their reach,
00:47:07.060 you know? So, and love for Kelly was what compelled me to speak out. And what keeps me speaking out
00:47:12.260 today is love for her love for humanity, love for the children. Um, I'm going to keep speaking out
00:47:18.660 until people are able to wrap their minds around the reality that we share this planet with some real
00:47:25.380 dark negative force perpetrators. You know, we, we need to face that reality and realize they only
00:47:31.780 have as much power as we give them or let them steal. And they also, just like in the old vampire, uh,
00:47:39.780 myths, which I think are real, I think they were written by people who knew that there were, uh,
00:47:46.820 uh, blood drinkers. Um, and they tried to warn us through those, uh, stories, but, um, uh,
00:47:57.940 there's just too many people who know now there's too many people who lived through it. There's too
00:48:03.220 many people who survived it and it can't, it just can't be hidden anymore. It, it, it's, it's not
00:48:12.020 being hidden like they wanted, you know, um, it, it's been exposed. Now it's just a matter of
00:48:20.340 unraveling this mess and it's going to take a lot to do it, you know, which brings us right back around
00:48:27.060 to, you know, what this administration is doing within a corrupt government, even, you know, with,
00:48:35.060 with so much opposition right there in DC, and they're still working diligently to unravel
00:48:41.940 this mess while waking up the people to do their part. You know, it's a lot.
00:48:49.300 Yeah. I also wanted you to talk for a minute. It's a shocking and stunning thing, but I want you to say
00:48:55.380 it that, uh, because this shows how our government works or worked before Trump, because we both love
00:49:03.540 Trump, right? We love him. Well, look at all the awareness he's, um, he's raised awareness is the
00:49:12.500 first step towards positive, necessary change. You know, um, it doesn't mean I agree with every
00:49:18.980 political thing that he does, but this is bigger than politics. And, and what he did is bigger than
00:49:24.980 politics, waking people up. Um, that's, that's, um, that's phenomenal. Anybody who lives their life's
00:49:31.620 purpose so, so beautifully to make that much difference in the world, you know, should be
00:49:38.020 honored for that. Um, the media couldn't, the, the, these perpetrators couldn't stop them. They
00:49:44.580 couldn't blackmail them. They couldn't buy them out. He had his own money. They couldn't threaten
00:49:49.140 him. He had his own security. They couldn't do anything to, to stop him. And he's been outraged
00:49:54.980 since the mid eighties that I know of, um, with the child sex trafficking and MK ultra and everything
00:50:01.220 else. And they couldn't stop him. So the best they could do is media assassination, try to take
00:50:08.900 them down by making people think that he's, you know, one of them, you know, why do you expose them
00:50:17.700 if he's one of them? It doesn't make any sense, but the media has manipulated the population to, uh,
00:50:23.940 such a degree in so many ways that this is just one more thing that they did was do a character
00:50:29.300 assassination. They attempted to do that with you too. And just like Trump, you bounce back.
00:50:34.900 You're not going to take that. And the people didn't believe it anyway. And no matter how many
00:50:39.940 times the media repeated it and repetition is the most basic form of mind control, no matter how many
00:50:45.940 times the people, the media repeated it, the people knew better. They still know better. Now we need
00:50:51.940 to know what can we do. And, um, I want to know, I want to know what you, I want to hear what you say
00:50:59.300 about the fact, and it's in transformation of America, your testimony before Congress, I can see
00:51:06.020 why they said it's against national security because basically, uh, one of the pedophiles who assaulted you
00:51:15.700 as a child became the unelected president of the United States. Can you talk about that?
00:51:24.420 About Ford? Yeah. Um, my father was, uh, since I was born into a multi-generational family, um,
00:51:33.300 my father, um, a multi-generational incest family. Yeah. Yeah. Incest. And, um, my father was also
00:51:41.540 ritually abused and was, was passing that part down. My mother was, um, was sexually abused and
00:51:50.100 trafficked to my grandfather's blue Masonic lodge. These secret societies was where keep secrets on mind
00:51:57.140 control our cap. These places where these perpetrators meet in secret, you know, is where
00:52:03.780 they keep perpetuating it. And secrecy is our problem. We need truth out there. We need the
00:52:09.700 knowledge that's our defense against mind control. We need truth that makes us free. But, um, MK
00:52:16.580 ultra was already in full swing by the time, um, I was born into that mess in 1957 in Muskegon,
00:52:24.580 Michigan by 1960, I was being trafficked to my grandfather's blue Masonic lodge, just a little
00:52:31.060 itty bitty toddler. Um, I was trafficked to a local politician of the time, Gerald Ford. Of course,
00:52:38.500 Gerald Ford went on to become the unelected president of the United States as his political career
00:52:44.900 escalated. So tooted my victimization and MK ultra mind control and his political career escalated to the
00:52:53.140 office of president, uh, uh, office of president because he, um, covered up the Kennedy assassination
00:52:59.780 as head of the Warren commission. And, um, because that's when this globalist agenda took a strong
00:53:07.940 hold on our country when, um, Kennedy opposed them and opposed this agenda. Um, they eliminated
00:53:18.340 him and assassinated him and took him out and then they took control of our country. Then they also
00:53:25.620 put in the electronic voting machines in the wake of the Kennedy assassination so that they could,
00:53:30.980 they, that's what it was about. Yeah. They were rigged since their inception to put,
00:53:36.980 um, these perpetrators in positions of power, um, through the rigged elections. And that's how they
00:53:45.140 gained control. That's what they did right up until 2016. When, um, so many of us were awake and aware,
00:53:52.660 we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm, you know, so that was 2016. Look at us. Now we got this,
00:53:59.620 we got the victory. We just need to, um, understand the details now going forward, you know, and,
00:54:08.660 and what we can do to, um, effectively take back our freedom and preserve the sanctity of free thought
00:54:16.180 going forward, protect our children. Well, tell us a little bit about the, uh, organizations that
00:54:23.380 you're involved with that do this good work, Kathy. Um, a lot of them are just groups of people in
00:54:31.380 various places around the country, like the, uh, Rev 17 in Yuba city, California. They're taking action.
00:54:39.700 It's a, um, church based organization that isn't about, um, just preaching and talking. They're about
00:54:46.900 action. They heard about the children that were being rescued and realized they didn't have a safe
00:54:52.980 place for the children. And, um, so they wanted to open up a safe house. So the children wouldn't be
00:55:00.100 thrust back into the child protective services and just recycled into the system. So, um, the people
00:55:09.060 got together and, um, raised millions of dollars, um, for the, for the opening of the safe house,
00:55:18.660 the construction of it and the education of the people working it to, um, effectively help children.
00:55:26.980 That's, that's where I came in and where I still come in. Um, and there's so many of these that are
00:55:33.380 opening up everywhere. Um, I'm also very pleased to, I'm going to be speaking in, um, in Minneapolis
00:55:41.940 with ARC, the association for rescuing children that works under the, um, America's future project.
00:55:50.180 Um, and I'm so excited about that because that gives a strong national, um, outreach on low from
00:55:58.900 local levels. You know, they say the local action has national impact. Well, that national impact
00:56:05.460 has global impact and that's where, um, we're speaking and, and arming people with information. So,
00:56:12.500 um, um, the, whether it's, um, an, an organization of, of concerned citizens, if it's patriots, if it's
00:56:22.260 whoever it is, if it's, uh, an organization as, um, as honorable as, uh, and root well-rooted as America's
00:56:29.940 future, um, we don't have any obstacles in our way. Now we can take the action. We can help each other.
00:56:37.380 And you're not taking government money, right? Right, right. No government money. This is people
00:56:43.660 helping people instead of people giving their money away to foundations like the Clinton Foundation.
00:56:51.060 They're, they're doing it locally where they can see where it's going, where they can see what's
00:56:56.400 actually being done there. Cause you're building, you're building the safe house in your community.
00:57:02.540 Yes. With your community's, uh, ascent and, uh, sponsorship. You have to protect those too.
00:57:09.660 Cause they're going to be infiltrated if they start working. So we have to be.
00:57:13.260 That's right. Very vigilant if this is the way to go.
00:57:15.820 Well, we have Dr. Lois Lee, who she's laid the archetype for how to do it without government
00:57:21.500 interference and have a 85% success rate to rescue child prostitutes. Yeah.
00:57:27.820 And that's it. It's just thinking outside of the box that bird and all them pedos created for us.
00:57:34.620 Right. Right. And to realize that there's not justice through the justice system. So,
00:57:42.940 you know, we've got to be mindful of that and, um, and be wise in how we operate. That goes right back
00:57:50.120 to what Mark always said from the get go. Wisdom out thinks their criminal mind every time,
00:57:55.660 because when we have soul, we have discernment of truth and we have compassion for each other.
00:58:00.780 When we have the height and depth of the strength of spirit, we have the wisdom to out think their
00:58:07.420 flat linear thinking. That's why I'm not afraid of artificial intelligence. I'm not afraid of these
00:58:12.700 criminal minds. We got this. We just got to remember we got this. Yeah, I think so too. It is waking
00:58:20.460 up, but you know, I call it, I was calling it the great awakening and the great unraveling. And now
00:58:26.060 I'm calling it the great apostasy because that's our hope is the great apostasy from bullshit and coming
00:58:33.260 into light and actual intelligence, uh, and human survival of the human species.
00:58:41.340 It is. It's, it is. We're, we're, we're fighting for our survival. We're fighting for our rights. We're
00:58:48.620 fighting for our birthright. Um, and, and we're, we're winning because, um, they really can't reach
00:58:56.380 us when what we do is out of love instead of out of fear. It's vibrational. It's, it makes all the
00:59:03.180 difference in the world. It's kind of like when we're fearful, we can't think of a way out, but when
00:59:09.180 we, I have, we, we get clarity of thought when we're happy, you know, that's when we get the
00:59:14.140 ideas and we get the, cause our brains are firing, you know? So that's our victory. That is, is...
00:59:20.780 Jake, are you ritually abusing my granddaughter there?
00:59:24.060 Oh, can you hear her? I wish. I'm about to, if she doesn't be quiet.
00:59:28.540 Maybe that's a problem. Maybe I don't abuse her enough. I didn't know you could hear that. No,
00:59:33.820 Hannah's in there. She, she's, uh, she's Vilda. That's all I'm gonna say. My second born is,
00:59:40.300 is special. She's a wild one, Kathy. You gotta see this one. You won't believe it.
00:59:44.380 I can't wait to meet her. I'll tell you what, you know, in every way, she's a whirlwind,
00:59:50.140 tearing shit up and jumping off shit and causing all kinds of trouble for everybody. And then she,
00:59:56.380 she does. You're a granddaughter. No, yeah. When you, when you say no, no, she's Roseanne
01:00:04.220 Jr. And, and her mother is a lot like my mother. So she's got, she's third generation, uh, crazy
01:00:10.700 Scorpio. Uh, I gotta say one more thing. She just wanted to be part of this. She does. I'm sorry.
01:00:17.260 You could hear, uh, your book. So I know this is a short podcast, but you are talking about this.
01:00:23.420 Yeah. These methods you're talking about work. Cause you're, you're absolutely correct. Like
01:00:30.300 love and, and self-healing all stuff. These methods you're teaching, where can people find
01:00:34.700 more information on this? Cause this is how we're going to win this war. There's no other way around
01:00:38.540 it. She's got it. She's got it all. Thanks to Mark. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mark Phillips.
01:00:45.340 He said that he just wanted to live long enough to see Trump. Uh, what do you call it? Where he's sworn in
01:00:51.740 inaugurated. And yeah, that, and, um, when he saw that so many people were awake and aware,
01:01:01.340 they overrode the rigged algorithm to elect them. That was what made a huge difference. He said, okay,
01:01:07.100 we passed critical mass. It's a turning point. You know, we got this going forward. Um, because again,
01:01:13.660 you know, going back around to where we started with this, it's going to take each and every one of us,
01:01:19.500 the numbers, it's the people that are going to make the difference. We had a change of government.
01:01:24.620 It wouldn't have mattered if without the people waking up to realize what's been going on.
01:01:31.180 They're never, it would just create a vacuum that would be filled with more of the same corruption.
01:01:36.460 If the people didn't wake up to realize what's going on, that's where the true changes. That's where
01:01:41.980 it really happens. And Mark knew that that's why he was dedicated his whole career to preserving
01:01:49.180 the sanctity of free thought so that we could all have our free will, soul expression,
01:01:55.020 our strength, the spirit to live our life the way it was intended. What a noble, um,
01:02:00.780 what a noble purpose he lived. And then to release the information by, um, empowering,
01:02:07.100 how lucky am I, my daughter and me to heal, um, with that information, um, we were able to release it.
01:02:14.460 So it's posted on my website at trans-formation.com. It's PTSD time to heal. It has to pay what you can,
01:02:23.340 if you can option. So everyone can have it now, regardless of income. Um, you can zero out cost
01:02:29.420 and there's no money trail to you. And you can also overpay if you have the means. That's sweet.
01:02:36.060 Right. And, uh, you know, there's so many people who can't, um, who are in a situation where they
01:02:42.940 don't need, um, money trail going to their healing method. And then they know how to do it themselves
01:02:50.220 within. They can write out their memory. They don't have to tell anybody they're doing it. They can start
01:02:55.580 healing, identify all abusers. So they don't. Because what Mark taught you and what he taught you was the way
01:03:03.100 they deprogram, uh, uh, POWs from mine, from, uh, being brainwashed. Right. And the big, uh,
01:03:12.140 the biggest tool is to write with a paper and pencil. Right. Exactly. The very act of moving a pen
01:03:19.980 activates the logic critical analysis part of the brain. So it takes fear, trauma, anything emotionally
01:03:26.860 incomprehensible, shifts it over to logic where it's written out on paper, consciously seen,
01:03:33.740 and you got a brain process here of analyzing information that's crucial to healing. It opens
01:03:42.060 neuron pathways in the brain. Then you have healing psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally,
01:03:49.020 spiritually, everything all at once, because then you heal physically. Absolutely. Absolutely.
01:03:59.020 When the neuron pathways are, um, reopened, then we can learn to think again. And so mind control
01:04:07.980 shuts them down. Indoctrination in the school system, they're shutting them down. We need to open them back
01:04:12.940 up. Simple way to do it. Get writing by hand back in the school system. And that alone,
01:04:18.940 will stop the indoctrination of children. That's a, a simple little method we all can use that was
01:04:26.380 very deliberately taken out. Computers were put in keyboards do not do the same thing.
01:04:32.380 Twiddling thumbs on a cell phone does not do the same thing as picking up a pen and paper,
01:04:38.060 sitting in quiet, away from devices, away from noise, away from the frequencies they emit and sit there
01:04:48.380 and, um, um, get our brains working naturally the way that they're supposed to. Wow.
01:04:56.540 It's so simple. And of course, of course they would have compromised that for us,
01:05:01.820 but I like your work workbook. PTSD, a time to heal is a workbook also because
01:05:07.820 you write out your experience in it and it's helped so many people. One thing I like to do is buy a ton of
01:05:15.260 books and give them out to people who need them. And it's helped so many people. So many people have
01:05:20.780 told me how much your book, uh, PTSD time to heal has helped them, including, including returning
01:05:29.020 soldiers who got PTSD from the fight in Iraq and all the places we sent them. It helps them too. It can
01:05:37.340 help a lot of homeless vets too. It can help a whole lot of the survivors who are stuck in the victim
01:05:44.140 mentality to realize they don't need anyone intruding on their minds. That's adding to the
01:05:50.940 problem that they can just go within and reclaim their birthright to live free, think free, reclaim
01:05:58.780 their joy. Um, get out in nature, you know, feel the sun on the skin, feel the wind in your hair,
01:06:07.980 breathe it in, you know, all these things make such a big difference. And, um, people have just
01:06:14.540 forgotten that because we've been, um, conditioned to the, the, you know, little looking outside ourselves
01:06:23.740 into devices and, you know, we need to stop that and get back to what's natural.
01:06:29.740 And if you think about it, these devices, if you, if you pay attention to how social media,
01:06:33.580 especially nowadays, it's, it's being exacerbated with like the gods and war and all this stuff
01:06:38.300 going around the world. It is trauma-based mind control that you're in micro form all day long.
01:06:43.660 I left social media about three and a half weeks ago. Finally, I just, because I realized I get on
01:06:47.980 there, I get traumatized, I start arguing and it's pulling me out of my feeling. I'm thinking,
01:06:53.820 I think they figured out the bad guys that, Hey, we don't just have to do satanic ritual,
01:06:57.820 pedophilic abuse. We can just fuck with these people on their phones, in their bedrooms and
01:07:02.380 control their mind. And they're dividing Maga. Well, look at all the snap judgment modes on,
01:07:10.060 you know, thinking further, they're just snap judging. And that was intended through, um,
01:07:16.300 through these devices. And I've Mark taught me, he said, um, from the beginning voice,
01:07:21.660 no negatives without a solution. Not only did that keep me from just complaining all the time,
01:07:26.940 you need to have to listen to it, but it actually forced my brain to think in new ways and opened
01:07:34.300 more neuron pathways. Cause I needed to learn how to think we all do. Um, we need to reclaim that.
01:07:40.860 And so what if social media had that rule voice, no negatives without a solution.
01:07:47.500 Can you imagine how much humanity would change with that one application?
01:07:52.780 Well, it would be, I have to say it would depend on the solution. A lot of the solutions that, uh,
01:08:00.060 mass media puts out there are satanic too.
01:08:02.620 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we can, um, I think we have to say if it comes from a place of hate,
01:08:11.820 then it's satanic. And I think we have to say, I think we also have to say if you are in a, uh,
01:08:19.020 because this is deep philosophy, but I think it's true. Um, if you're in a victim mode,
01:08:25.420 you've fallen right into the lap of the satanic because the victim mode thinking like that you're
01:08:32.220 a victim of anything or anyone, unless you truly are, I'm not talking about that, but the victim,
01:08:38.460 uh, mode narrative that goes on, on the internet and TV and all media that absolves you for any
01:08:46.460 responsibility for the actions you take. Cause you're like, I'm oppressed. So I can,
01:08:51.500 blah, blah. I can hit, I can commit violence. I can hate because I'm resisting, but you're not,
01:08:59.260 you fell right into the victim mode, which is satanic thought because you have to be free
01:09:06.220 of that. You have to be free of that to actually create and live and, and be joyful human being
01:09:13.500 that lives the love we are. Like you say, Kathy. Hallelujah. Yeah, definitely. Definitely.
01:09:20.700 That this victim mentality, um, has, has got to stop because when people don't know their own
01:09:27.660 truth and they stay in that victim mentality, um, when people don't know their own truth,
01:09:32.300 they're hanging on to program. And if they got program, um, they want to share it with everybody
01:09:38.540 and force it on everybody. That's what, um, where all the arguing comes in, uh, among survivors.
01:09:45.340 No, you have to look at it my way. You have to buy into my perception because they need validation,
01:09:50.780 um, from outside themselves for the lies that they're following. You know, we need to get through
01:09:56.940 that curve and know our own truth. And that takes going within when we know our own truth,
01:10:03.100 then we're strong in it. We don't need anybody to validate that for us. We don't have to push it on
01:10:08.300 to everyone that allows everyone to have their own path and heal from within. And it stops this,
01:10:14.620 this constant bickering that's going on in this, um, this overwhelming push of ideas. I think that
01:10:22.780 we saw magnified with mind control masters, a virus, you know, those who bought into the program,
01:10:28.940 those who didn't, you know, mask up, you got to wear your mask, you know, because that was their
01:10:34.300 program. They, and they wanted everybody to buy into that program. Uh, cause they didn't know that
01:10:39.980 they want us masked Kathy. Um, because it depersonalizes and inhibits oxygen to the brain
01:10:48.940 necessary for critical analysis, free thought. And it muffles voices, especially from six feet away
01:10:56.140 and the depersonalization it caused. As soon as the children developed identity disorders from
01:11:04.220 it, then that was redefined by the school system as a gender, um, uh, gender problem that they had,
01:11:14.300 uh, um, uh, they, they didn't know their own gender. And so they redefined it so they could push the
01:11:20.780 transgender movement in, which is a, a pedophile agenda that is also a depopulation agenda rolled
01:11:28.700 into one. Cause there's no human procreation with it. Right. But, um, it's horrible what we
01:11:34.060 did with the children just by masking them up and then putting them behind plexiglass,
01:11:40.220 depersonalizing them until they don't even know who they are and then telling them it's gender
01:11:45.420 confusion. And the next thing they know, they go from the masks and the plexiglass to stuff
01:11:51.340 in dollars and tranny panties. We've really messed up a generation. We all better wake up,
01:11:57.900 remember who we are and why we're here. Reclaim our free thought and start protecting our children
01:12:03.260 going forward. We got a generation to heal big time. Amen. Don't you think that the parents
01:12:10.060 of these children that allowed that are under heavy, heavy duty, mind control?
01:12:17.500 They've been, um, indoctrinated and conditioned for so long that, um, they're only now waking up to
01:12:25.020 realize it. You know, like, um, there's so many parents that are dealing with overwhelming grief.
01:12:32.700 They're seeing the results of what happened when they got, had their kids get the injection and
01:12:38.220 mask them up. They're, they're having to deal with that reality. Now they've got overwhelming grief.
01:12:44.060 You know, again, pick up that pen, write out your grief, write out your guilt, write out your trauma,
01:12:51.740 write out your fear, write out what's immobilizing you, add a solution, you know, and get your brain
01:12:57.980 firing because, um, we got to make sure that we evolve with the knowledge we just gained and never,
01:13:05.580 never let this happen again. Wow. Well said. What do you think about Q and on Kathy?
01:13:12.780 Um, I think that that was a way of being able to get a lot of people to open their eyes. Um,
01:13:21.500 it's nothing that I had time to follow in any way, but, um, I understand that the efforts to wake
01:13:30.460 people up and get them to understand the magnitude of the problem that we're unraveling right now,
01:13:35.660 um, had to be come at from a lot of different angles. So, um, the, instead of, you know,
01:13:42.860 snap judging one thing or the other, we need to expand our thinking and look into find the truth
01:13:51.020 and everything and, um, start pulling that together because like you were saying at the
01:13:56.060 beginning, Roseanne, it's such a, so perfect, you know, everybody's got to bring their piece
01:14:00.620 of the puzzle to the table so that the big picture comes into focus and we can all be effective,
01:14:06.140 taking back our minds, our lives, and our world.
01:14:11.260 Here's to that. Here's to that.
01:14:15.340 Amazing.
01:14:16.700 I wanted to talk about like how we talk, uh, how long have we been on this, Jake? How long have we
01:14:22.540 been on this?
01:14:22.860 Hour 13.
01:14:25.420 Okay. Well, I want, I want to wrap it up with...
01:14:28.060 Yeah, we can have her back anytime.
01:14:30.380 Yeah, we want to come back a lot, but I just, we didn't even get into how me and you talk to
01:14:36.540 each other, which I think maybe next time you, you come on here, we'll, we'll do some of that
01:14:42.060 because we don't, you know, we're just sharing information today, but we're beyond all that for
01:14:48.060 years and, uh, we're, we're into a whole other realm between me and you where we are, we are
01:14:58.300 noticing and understanding what our brains in fact are capable of. And we do all kind of thought
01:15:08.940 experiments together just to see how it works because it is miraculous, ain't it?
01:15:19.500 It really is. You know, we, we have been taught that our, our brains, um, if we use 10% of our brain,
01:15:27.900 what's the rest of it? You know, I mean that we've got so much that we have access to our life's
01:15:34.060 experience. I think blasted us into primitive parts of our brain and intuitions and, and, and
01:15:40.140 other sense heightened senses and capabilities that, um, we all have access to when we remember
01:15:47.500 though to use those parts of our brain, you know, we have, uh, it's part of our defense mechanism.
01:15:54.140 It's even with survivors who are still in the victim mode, you know, and, and have the overactive
01:16:00.700 adrenal systems and they're in fear all the time. You know, if they just, Hey, tap into what your
01:16:05.900 brain's got active there and integrate that in and start using it, then you have added defenses.
01:16:14.220 And all of a sudden that alone calms the adrenal system to where the body can heal too. So the,
01:16:21.660 the mind over body aspect is something everyone needs to tap into the things you and I talk about
01:16:28.700 are so deep and profound and I can't wait to be together in person. Maybe, um, we can get into
01:16:35.820 a deep discussion, um, on camera with that kind of stuff right now. I'm working on a, uh, another book,
01:16:42.700 um, align with the divine within that, um, reminds people to, you know, use those aspects of the brain
01:16:51.580 that you and I are so aware of and know so much about. So, you know, it's, um,
01:16:56.700 it's not, it's not just mind over the physical body you're living in, but it's actually mind
01:17:03.820 over matter too. It is. And there's so much synchronicity that like what you mentioned,
01:17:10.060 you know, that people forget to align with, there's so much possibility and, um, and capability
01:17:16.060 that we all have. We've been distracted for so long by these shallow, you know, headline news,
01:17:21.820 snap judgments, social media and everything else we need, we need to get back to, um, appreciating
01:17:28.780 the magnitude of what we've been blessed with all along. And, um, I think you and I are real good at,
01:17:33.900 at, at sharing that with each other, the exciting things that, um, that we have rediscovered about
01:17:41.900 the amazing, the amazing way that humanity has been made. I like when we sit on your porch and
01:17:50.460 like, we just, uh, start thinking about birds and then birds show up.
01:17:59.020 Yeah. The vibrational frequencies.
01:18:01.020 Yeah. It's, it's, it's Cherokee sacred land and, and like whatever your vibrational frequency is
01:18:10.540 draws particular animals to you right now. I've got hummingbirds everywhere, which is a really great
01:18:16.940 frequency, um, that, that animals come to deer when deer come up in your yard and just walk up to you.
01:18:23.500 It's because your vibration is proper. It's right. You're in a good space. Um, and yeah,
01:18:29.580 so we get to share that when we're together and, um, have that, that beautiful experience with nature.
01:18:36.780 It's a mind blower to say, Oh, everything's connected. Everything. That's the big one that
01:18:43.980 people need to see. And they are so programmed to, uh, not see it, but it's, you know, not see
01:18:52.620 it, but it's right there. It's right there. If you get over that big hurdle where,
01:19:01.340 you know, that system of non-thought tries to control what God gave you, what the universe,
01:19:08.380 the good, the good in you, um, the divinity in you, boy, they don't like any of that. They sure hate
01:19:15.020 that. And, uh, you know, but I, I don't know. Well, it was my great pleasure to introduce you
01:19:22.220 to president Trump and I want to end by you telling what, what that was like for you to meet him.
01:19:30.460 Well, it's a, it's a first president I ever, ever met that had, um, soul, you know, like, and, and
01:19:38.300 genuine care and compassion for humanity. And, um, um, in addition to extremely vast intelligence,
01:19:45.500 it was, it was an amazing experience for me that was complete opposite of anything that my life
01:19:51.980 had conditioned me to think of someone in his position. And, um, it, it's not that it was so
01:20:00.140 much a surprise because, um, I knew that these perpetrators feared him. I knew that he was vastly
01:20:07.660 different from them. I knew that Mark was real excited about the, the prospects of what was to
01:20:15.100 come. So, um, it was just a validation of the beauty that life really does have to offer when
01:20:25.100 we dare to open our eyes and see beyond what we think we know. Oh, that is so great. What a great way
01:20:32.140 to end it. I love you so much. Oh, well, your other book is, uh, there's transformation of America
01:20:40.300 and, uh, what's the other one? I can't remember. PTSD, a time for healing.
01:20:45.340 And the other one, Kathy. Access denied for reasons and national security. That's the
01:20:52.380 marks in my journey through the corrupted justice and mental health system to help
01:20:56.460 my daughter, Kelly. So it shows the corruption of child protective services and the roots of it,
01:21:03.340 how they do it. And what we did to kick down doors and make our way through it. So, um, yeah,
01:21:11.020 it's a, uh, a timely book for right now. It's like a roadmap into the corruption,
01:21:16.540 into the system and, uh, what we can do about it.
01:21:20.380 Well, thank you for, uh, kickstarting this whole great awakening movement for the 40 some years
01:21:29.420 you've been at it. And for all of the, uh, humiliation that you has been heaped on you by
01:21:37.420 these people who are on the wrong side of life, history, humanity, but here you are and you look
01:21:43.580 better than ever. And I love you. And thanks for being on today. Thank you. Thanks for having me.
01:21:49.340 You're amazing. I love you. I love you, Kathy. Thank you so much. Thank you.