The Roseanne Barr Podcast - Declassifying Presidential Sex Slavery W⧸ Cathy O'Brien ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #113

00:00:00.000 It's a good thing God brought you here because, you know, we intend to liberate you here because 0.71

00:00:04.820 you're all slaves. And mostly to animals who are not slaves to bullshit the highest forms of 0.99

00:00:10.820 living beings on this planet. Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast. 0.90

00:00:20.820 Here we are. And you know how I love to talk to geniuses. I have the genius of all geniuses.

00:00:28.920 As a matter of fact, I have to tell this story. My mom used to run a daycare and she had this little

00:00:34.120 boy there. And he told my mom, boys have a penis and girls have a virginius, which I just always 0.99

00:00:43.840 loved. And my guest today is a virginius, a woman who she's a woman among women. She's like top level 0.99

00:00:55.800 woman. She's the reason we broke through the curtain of bullshit that was holding us down 1.00

00:01:03.760 since, I don't know, since right after World War II, Operation Paperclip. She's the one that exposed 0.99

00:01:13.220 it all and why we are where we are today, why we have Trump as our president, why we're all fighting

00:01:18.680 the good fight for the sake of the children of this world. She's my oldest and dearest friend,

00:01:24.180 Kathy O'Brien. Hi, Kathy.

00:01:26.760 Hi. It's so good to be here with you.

00:01:29.840 Second time you've been.

00:01:32.040 Yeah, this is the second time. But the first time in two years, which we were saying we got

00:01:36.840 to do another one. We did that Sean, what's his face?

00:01:40.060 Yeah, that was that we've done some great interviews together, but I'm looking forward

00:01:46.700 to being together, you know, eye to eye with you again, where, you know, we're in the same

00:01:52.520 room. It's been too long since we've actually been together. And I'm looking forward to that

00:01:57.120 because you're such an inspiration and a genius and so fun to be with. And our conversations

00:02:03.720 are always so profound and deep. So I'm looking forward to that. And I'm also looking forward

00:02:09.340 to what information we can bring to light together today.

00:02:13.700 Yeah. Yeah. Let's jump right in. Jake, what was the question you asked her? Because I said,

00:02:19.800 we got to start with that. It was about, was it about Epstein?

00:02:22.880 Well, I, it was about specifically the handling of the Epstein files by Pam Bondi and Cash and Trump

00:02:30.120 and this administration. Cause I bring it up every week on this podcast. I'm not happy with the

00:02:34.240 direction, but mom, you always tell me there's this greater plan in place. So I asked Kathy during the

00:02:39.340 the pre-interview what she thought. And that was my question. Do you, are you, do you,

00:02:43.700 what do you think Kathy? That was my question.

00:02:46.960 Um, I'm excited by what's going on because, um, Mark and I used to discuss this at length. You know,

00:02:53.240 what would it take to unravel the new world order, this globalist agenda that's permeated all aspects

00:03:00.980 of society from education, churches, governments, um, it just really everything. They've, they've permeated

00:03:10.320 everything. What would it take to stop the corruption? What would it take to stop the dumbing down a

00:03:17.600 humanity into compliant little slaves in their globalist slave society agenda? And we realized that

00:03:26.820 ultimately, regardless of what happens on a political end, the most important part is going

00:03:33.500 to be up to each and every one of us to wake up and do our part, to realize that this global swamp

00:03:41.680 can't be drained from the top down. It has to be drained from the bottom up. And that's going to take

00:03:48.020 us all. And that's going to take us all reclaiming our free thought, free will, soul expression,

00:03:53.400 our strength of spirit, you know, where we align with each other and join on that level naturally

00:04:00.300 and start, um, restoring morality, decency, and the brilliance to the brains that we have been

00:04:10.580 blessed with. You know, it's, it's, it's time, but it's going to take all of us. So I'm not so upset

00:04:16.340 at what I'm seeing politically. It's going to take a long time for that system to clean up. 0.99

00:04:21.220 In the meantime, there are children being rescued everywhere from child sex trafficking rings,

00:04:30.120 the human trafficking, drug trafficking, especially child sex trafficking are the funding mechanism of

00:04:36.380 this globalist agenda. We need to defund the new world order, stop child sex trafficking. And that's

00:04:43.100 exactly what people are starting to do. So they're taking that action because the children can't wait for

00:04:49.060 this system to clean up. It's going to take a long time. We're seeing how long it takes. We're

00:04:53.900 seeing how long it takes to even just drag through one thread of this, um, tapestry with the Epstein

00:05:01.980 files. It's going to take a while. Do you specifically, what, last question. Do you just, I know we want

00:05:10.580 to get off the political and I agree with you about that. We all have to do this together, but

00:05:14.420 specifically this administration, Trump and Bondi and et cetera, are, are, are they doing the right

00:05:19.940 thing? I know they're arresting and doing other things, but in regards to the Epstein files and

00:05:23.440 that global system, do you feel happy that they're, they're tearing through it or are you think they're

00:05:28.820 covering it up or any of that? Cause I feel like they might be covering it up.

00:05:32.260 I, I definitely don't feel like it's being covered up. There's more involved in this than people

00:05:38.480 realize. There's the, the whole blackmail network. We need to know who's holding the blackmail for

00:05:45.340 what purposes, who are the perpetrators at the top of this? Who are these self-appointed, self-anointed

00:05:51.120 global leaders that are, um, dehumanizing humanity in order to align us with flat thinking AI and with their

00:06:00.320 flat thinking criminal agenda. You know, it's got to, it's got to stop. And in order to unravel all

00:06:06.820 that, you know, this is just one thread they need to pull. The blackmail tapes themselves are, um,

00:06:14.660 one form of evidence. We got to have a justice system to prosecute these, these pedophiles and

00:06:20.120 perpetrators through. We don't have a justice system in place yet. They've been running it for too long

00:06:25.800 to cover up their crimes against humanity. They invoke national security or anything else and just

00:06:30.780 keep going. So it's going to take a while. And right now what we need to know is what exactly is

00:06:37.180 this agenda all about? What are they doing with the children? How the, can this many children be

00:06:42.680 missing? What are they doing harvesting our children? What is the adrenochrome all about?

00:06:47.760 We need to get to the very bottom of this and take down the puppet masters at the top. So rather than

00:06:54.560 using, you know, now that this administration has got the hold of the blackmail tapes,

00:06:59.460 if they play another man's game and use blackmail to the blackmailers, it's not going to accomplish

00:07:06.700 as much as they can. If they just use their information gained as leverage against this whole

00:07:14.380 global network, that's been, um, gaining control for generations. Now it's going to take a while to

00:07:22.240 unravel. Okay. Well, Kathy, as a child, you were part of the building of that international

00:07:28.220 network, weren't you? Or you, you were used as a child sex slave in order to build that international 0.99

00:07:35.480 network of pedophiles that sit at top of every government and every NGO and everything, right? 1.00

00:07:43.620 Absolutely. And my, my uncle was, um, a part of the blackmail network and distributing the tapes.

00:07:52.500 And, and he was flying a lot of them to the Vatican. The Vatican has a huge vault of these

00:07:57.240 blackmail tapes. That's a big piece of a puzzle right there. And that's only one piece of this

00:08:02.060 puzzle. When we get to the top of, um, you know, who's, who's doing this and why we start to

00:08:08.480 understand. And having been exposed to that, I was used in the blackmail videos myself at the

00:08:13.940 Epstein Island of his time, Mackinac Island, Michigan. So, um, I was among these global

00:08:20.040 perpetrators and I know how far reaching this is, how deep it goes and how long they've been doing it

00:08:26.920 and getting away with it. You were, you were sold by your father into the MK ultra, uh, child 0.86

00:08:37.120 altering, terrorizing, uh, torture machine of, uh, the CIA, U S government, weren't you?

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00:10:31.180 keep us going. Yeah, I was. There's so many children that have been in a position like I was,

00:10:39.900 but there's not that many who've survived. I mean, look at all the people who've even tried to expose

00:10:45.080 this mess, how many have been dying. And, you know, we've got to get some justice restored to the

00:10:52.220 system and people need to start seeing some accountability for actions because right now

00:10:58.860 there's no need to first demand accountability, which the American people that seems to escape

00:11:06.400 them, that they have the right to demand of this government accountability for what's happened to

00:11:12.780 the children of this country and the children of this country and every country where these long

00:11:18.460 hands of crime have toppled governments to get at their kids, every evil thing that they have been

00:11:26.200 involved in. Don't you think because our tax dollars pay for it all that we have the right and the

00:11:32.100 responsibility to demand the accountability of our government?

00:11:40.400 Well, I think the people are doing it. You know, the people have been demanding it for a long time.

00:11:45.840 It's just the media is not giving us voice. They're not saying that we're being heard. You know,

00:11:51.600 so many of us were awake and aware 2016 that we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm in the voting

00:11:57.860 machine to put in a president who wasn't Hillary Clinton in her new world order, to put in a 1.00

00:12:03.300 president who exposed their funding mechanism of drug and human trafficking, showed us there was a

00:12:09.060 swamp in Washington, D.C. And that woke even more people up. Then in 2020, these perpetrators were so

00:12:16.180 desperate to regain control, they unleashed mind control massed as a virus on the global population.

00:12:22.460 Everybody got a taste of mind control. Then that raised awareness that much more because these

00:12:27.800 fools, they're so stupid, they messed up, and they told everybody to shelter at home. Mind control 1.00

00:12:35.400 needs to shut down neuron pathways in the brain. Trauma causes them to shut down. Fear causes them to

00:12:42.440 shut down. That's what they need to use. But where they made their mistake is having a shelter at home.

00:12:48.780 Because when people broke their routine patterns, it forced their brains to fire in new ways. And it got

00:12:55.000 those neuron pathways opening. So they made a big mistake. And people were sheltering at home and

00:13:00.360 saying, Hey, what are our kids being taught in the school system? What is this sexualization of 0.99

00:13:05.720 children going on? They started talking to each other. And it really just woke more people up. So,

00:13:12.600 you know, we've got this massive movement. Now, the Great Awakening is real. But like, like my daughter,

00:13:19.400 Kelly was saying the other day, you know, wow, that this Great Awakening is past critical mass. But now

00:13:25.800 people have a long way to go to catch up. There's a lot of information they've got to learn. There's a

00:13:33.000 lot they need to open their eyes to in order to be effective in dismantling this mess and preventing

00:13:39.000 it from ever happening again. So it's, it's, it's, it's quite a joke. Your book, transformation of America,

00:13:48.600 which is your testimony before Congress. You were detailing the child trafficking at the border, like

00:13:56.600 decades ago. That was part of your story too, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And my 1995 testimony for Congress, every bit

00:14:06.280 of it was validated. That's why national security was invoked on it. You know, clean members of law

00:14:11.800 enforcement and intelligence had, had it validated secret service. Now there's a lot of good people

00:14:18.680 in key positions who've been doing their best to dismantle this mess, fully realizing that until

00:14:25.560 people open their eyes and realize how vast manipulation has become to realize mind control,

00:14:33.080 sliding scale from the kind of torturous robotic MK ultra mind control, I experienced on a white 0.85

00:14:39.880 house Pentagon level to the kind of mind control MK ultra going on in Hollywood that you're aware of

00:14:47.560 to information control, because we all formulate our thoughts, opinions and actions based on what we

00:14:53.480 know. We need to know that knowledge base has been altered for a long, long time, very deliberately

00:14:59.000 to dumb us to dumb us down and to keep us from knowing how to take action ourselves. We've been conditioned

00:15:07.080 so long to look to big government, big pharma, big tech, big cult to cult religion to tell us how to live our

00:15:13.960 lives. But we forgot, we got all the power, you know, we forgot to look within and align with that divine within and

00:15:22.200 tap in to that power because that's, that's our victory. That's where we win. Um, that's where they

00:15:29.720 lose. That's what they're afraid we're going to do. So they instead keep us bombarded with trauma after

00:15:35.720 trauma, um, suppress, uh, truth and information. Um, even though the information on child sex trafficking

00:15:44.040 has come out, even though people have seen what's happening on our borders, how they're being turned into

00:15:49.160 a corrupted so-called child protective services system and then trafficked right from there, you

00:15:56.680 know, turned back up because the same people own the whole corrupt system. So people are

00:16:02.440 including the media, the media is what keeps us blind to it, right? Yes, they do. And then again, um,

00:16:11.000 the area that where I'm working in, um, speaking out nationally now all across the nation, um,

00:16:21.080 empowering people to be effective and helping the children because the people started taking action

00:16:26.360 themselves. When, when Trump was reelected this time, the obstacles that have been put in everyone's

00:16:34.680 way from being able to take action themselves have been removed. Yeah. The bureaucracy that

00:16:42.040 kept it all in place because that's how people were getting paid on their government jobs is to

00:16:47.080 keep the devilish, the satanic empire in place. That's what they were working for, 0.85

00:16:53.240 not the U S government or the people. Absolutely. And now the, the people are so fed up with that and

00:17:00.440 they're just taking action themselves. But as they're taking action, they're realizing they don't

00:17:05.320 know how to help these children. They can give them a safe place to be, but what do they do from

00:17:13.800 there? And that's the information that I'm sharing because, um, can you tell us about that

00:17:19.400 information and what you are sharing? And I know you're part of a whole growing network across this

00:17:24.440 country of basically moms and, uh, some dads and grandparents, but American citizens that are

00:17:31.640 offering, uh, redemption to these, to these, uh, children who've been so damaged. Yeah. The, the

00:17:40.600 information I used for healing was suppressed under national security. It's our birthright information,

00:17:47.000 but it was suppressed. Um, ever since the 1947 national security, when an act went into place

00:17:54.040 in the wake of the world war two, when we imported the Nazi and fascist scientists into the U S with 0.92

00:18:01.160 project paperclip with them came the formula for mind control. Well, our information on mind brain

00:18:08.040 function, that's our natural defense against mind control. Our ability to heal from any trauma was

00:18:15.240 suppressed and buried under national security. It was withheld from the mental health community,

00:18:22.120 the medical community from education system, pertinent information. The medical system doesn't have like

00:18:29.480 our subconscious never sleeps. If the medical community knew that in the course of surgery,

00:18:36.680 they could say, um, healing affirming thoughts instead of, you know, whoa, look at this mess,

00:18:42.920 you know, drama that only adds to, um, the difficulty in recovering from surgery. There's some very

00:18:50.360 simple mind brain functions that have been suppressed for a long time. When Mark saw it buried under

00:18:57.720 national security. I want to say your husband, I wanted to say your husband, Mark Phillips, who was a

00:19:05.480 white hat before they even had that word. Yeah. Um, and he, he was in, uh, doing business in China way back

00:19:15.000 when that was new. And the, isn't it the Chinese that told him about, uh, how, how so many, um, uh, business

00:19:24.680 folks from America coming there were, um, uh, actually compromised by pedophilia?

00:19:35.160 Yes. And there, there were those in, um, China that were doing all they could at the time to restore

00:19:41.640 free thought to the people. This was a global agenda and there was a global movement and, um,

00:19:48.520 they had alerted, uh, Mark to the fact that, um, my daughter Kelly and I were slaves. They, they had,

00:19:55.880 um, information on our circumstance and Mark decided to do something about it and, and lifted Kelly and I

00:20:04.120 right out of the Washington DC human trafficking swamp and handed us keys to our own mind, that

00:20:10.920 birthright information that was buried under national security. He liberated that, uh, buried

00:20:18.680 on purpose information for how to heal, right? He liberated that from the dark hats. He did. He 0.52

00:20:26.860 wasn't able to reveal it himself because he was bound by laws of sedition, but it was my experience to

00:20:33.660 heal with it. So, um, I could release the information. I'm not bound by any laws of sedition besides

00:20:39.960 it's humanity's birthright information about the resiliency of our body, mind, and spirit.

00:20:47.480 So yeah, I, not only have I released it in PTSD time to heal as you so well know, cause you, you wrote

00:20:55.800 the, on the, on the back of it, you know, uh, attesting to it since you had met Mark and knew about

00:21:03.280 these methods yourself. Um, this is just easy for anyone to self apply. So this is what I'm

00:21:09.940 teaching, uh, others right now, how to be effective in helping the children is for them to first

00:21:16.500 remember their own birthright information and then empower the children with it. It's on,

00:21:23.300 it's all such a natural process because, you know, ultimately we were made perfect. Our brains are

00:21:30.420 perfect. Our brains have so much healing capacity. Our bodies are perfect. We don't need 79 vaccines to

00:21:39.620 survive. What I just read the other day. The other day I read something where they're finding out that

00:21:46.260 dandelions have a property that kills cancer. There's so many simple ways. Um, when we go back to nature,

00:21:55.940 Kathy, can I ask you a question? Uh, real quick. You said Mark found this healing information was

00:22:03.380 buried under national security. We, I don't want to gloss over that cause that you have to tell me more

00:22:08.740 about that. That's fascinating. How was it, but what did he, he stumbled upon classified information

00:22:15.940 or what does that mean? He was in military intelligence and he saw there was ways that

00:22:21.700 the military understood we could heal from trauma and they buried it under national security.

00:22:26.580 Yeah. He was above military intelligence. Actually, he was very high up. Um, he, he could, um,

00:22:32.740 he could wear any hat and he saw how mind control was being used on the global population. He saw how it

00:22:39.060 was being used to, um, to overtake, um, nations. And he was very disturbed by the pedophile agenda,

00:22:48.900 which is really a mind control agenda because people didn't know the effects of trauma on the human mind,

00:22:55.940 that sexual abuse of a child prior to age five, while the brain is still forming creates a compliance

00:23:02.420 for the rest of their lives because it shuts down neuron pathways in the brain. And he,

00:23:08.420 he, if people had that information, they would understand that pedophilia is not a sexual preference.

00:23:14.980 It's not a perversion. It's a control mechanism and it's intended to dumb down humanity. We are

00:23:23.620 devolving because of the generational implementation of this. But in order for them to be able to use

00:23:32.260 mind control to that degree, they had to take away our knowledge that is our defense against it. They

00:23:38.820 had to take away our birthright knowledge on our own mind, brain function so they could manipulate us

00:23:45.060 by it and subject us to trauma after trauma. So when Mark saw that and it's humanity's birthright

00:23:53.460 information, he wanted to find a way to release it. And, um, it's, it's so important because

00:24:01.780 with that information buried under national security, the mental health community was taught to promote

00:24:11.060 the victim mentality to keep people locked into it, you know, to, if, if people aren't thinking free

00:24:18.500 and they're locked into that victim mentality, they stay in fear mode, they're in survival mode all the

00:24:24.660 time. Yeah. And they're in, if they perpetuate that very deliberately, um, then that has really

00:24:34.100 caused a lot of problems now for survivors who want to heal, but are given really bad therapy,

00:24:42.020 really bad information. And ultimately the answer is if you look outside yourself for answers,

00:24:49.620 then that's going to be more intrusive information in, and your brain is not going to accept it.

00:24:55.700 The brain is overwhelmed with this intrusion and shuts down. It won't heal. It needs to be safe

00:25:01.940 from intrusion. So, um, we don't need invasive therapy. We don't need, uh, these online therapy courses,

00:25:11.860 that artificial intelligence is offering. What the heck is that? You know, talk about looking outside

00:25:17.860 yourself, but not only that, they're collecting all the data on how to repress the information further

00:25:23.540 in order to keep people compliant and keep them from remembering secrets to keep them from remembering,

00:25:30.260 um, details of what goes on in the Epstein islands. And, um, you know, all these,

00:25:36.820 these victims that have been subjected to that, they can just shut them right down. You know,

00:25:41.620 they act like they're giving them therapy. They're only collecting information. They got the idea

00:25:46.020 from, um, from the Vatican, you know, go back to the confessionals, you know, and, and, and how the,

00:25:53.460 the mafia would go in there and tell all their sins and they blackmail them. You know what I mean?

00:25:58.740 It was, they've been in the blackmail business forever, you know? So they, they thought, well,

00:26:04.180 we'll just keep using that method and, um, get people to tell us their secrets and then,

00:26:09.700 you know, keep them repressed. So, um, anytime people look outside themselves,

00:26:15.860 they're being locked in to a victim mentality by design. We need to remember who we are,

00:26:22.740 why we're here, go within access, our simple, you know, resiliency and, um, and, and start reclaiming

00:26:32.340 our free thought, get our brains firing again, the way they're supposed to. We have, we have

00:26:37.780 brilliant minds. We need to take them back. 0.53

00:26:40.180 What a crime against humanity. What, what a horrible crime against humanity. All of this, uh, fake news,

00:26:50.740 fake science, fake everything, fake spirituality, fake religion, fake everything just to keep children 0.98

00:27:00.740 available for pedophiles. Yeah. And fake medical community. Look at it. You know, they, they, they, 0.98

00:27:07.780 they are trained and indoctrinated by big pharma who runs the schools, follow the money and they're,

00:27:16.180 they're training them to, to turn everything over to big pharma, you know? So they're making money by

00:27:24.100 treating the, you know, so-called illnesses that they usually create with the vaccines. They treat them,

00:27:30.740 them, but they don't cure anything. It's taking the resiliency of our physical healing away from the

00:27:39.380 whole medical community. So we got this assault on mental health.

00:27:45.380 It's a part of what Jeffrey Epstein did, because what he did on the island was, you know, I think

00:27:51.460 it, that stuff dwarfs what he really did, which was to, um, uh, change all the laws in the world about

00:28:03.540 money and invent a thing called vampire capitalism, which pretty much means that the human beings are

00:28:11.380 prey to the, uh, ones at the top of the financial pyramid. And yeah, they can make them sick and then

00:28:20.740 they can take bets on how they die or how they can quote unquote, treat their, uh, doctor caused

00:28:27.940 illnesses and make more money that way. The human beings are Soylent Green, basically that movie. 0.89

00:28:35.220 And he invented that. His financial crimes are far worse. Plus he, he wrote with the bankers, all,

00:28:44.900 all of these laws that destroyed national sovereignty of every country,

00:28:49.860 the banks. He, he was their, um, puppet. And, uh, of course all that goes to the people at the top,

00:28:58.500 which are the kings, the kings, the queens, the popes, the wizards, um, you know, the, uh, Nazis 0.83

00:29:08.980 of the fourth Reich. That's what the new world order is. And, uh, am I wrong, Kathy?

00:29:14.500 Well, it, that's the, you know, takes us back to the original question, Jake, you know, um, that

00:29:21.140 about why I'm not upset about how long this is taking with the Epstein files, because it's so much

00:29:27.380 more involved than most people realized. And there's so much more going on than, uh, than people realize

00:29:33.300 to dismantle this whole, um, global network that's been, been going on for so long. And that's just

00:29:41.460 Epstein's part. Yeah. You know, you get to the, the Clintons, let's say, you know, the, and George

00:29:47.460 Bush senior, what he did was just massive. There's, um, there's so many others and he's

00:29:54.660 just one, you know, and there's subpoena in the Clintons to testify what, you know, Epstein would

00:30:00.740 have testified against them. It's just, it, this is, um, I, I, I don't know what they expect to find

00:30:08.260 and what's really going on, but it, I don't even follow it because to me, it's a charade, um,

00:30:15.700 to get to a much, much, much bigger outcome in unraveling this mess because this effort to

00:30:22.500 unravel the new world order, the slave society agenda and restore free thought to humanity

00:30:30.020 as, um, has been going on for a long time. It's, it's been going on behind the scene. Now we're

00:30:36.980 seeing what they're doing a little bit, but a lot of it's smoke and mirror illusion because people

00:30:43.620 wouldn't understand the reality of what they're actually doing because it's so complicated.

00:30:52.180 They need to have the ABCs before they, you know, get to this postgraduate understanding.

00:30:57.700 Yeah, they really, the media and all the, even, you know, the internet, they, they hide,

00:31:05.380 they hide the real agents behind the, uh, mass murder of humanity. They continue to do that. Um,

00:31:14.420 um, and, uh, it's just a sickening. We are in a fight for our lives though.

00:31:22.260 We are, you know, it's in transformation of America, um, where George Bush at Bohemian Grove

00:31:28.180 said that if they lost control over the minds of the population, they'd reduce our numbers to a

00:31:33.460 more manageable size. So, um, and then you look back, um, all the way back to Gerald Ford,

00:31:39.220 when he was president and he had Henry Kissinger and George Bush and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld,

00:31:47.220 who gave us aspartame to dumb us down. And, you know, uh, Jack Villani, head of the motion

00:31:52.660 picture association of America controlling our information hit all of them in his cabinet.

00:31:57.780 He can look all the way back on, on the, um, Ford administration with Henry Kissinger. They came

00:32:05.700 up with the first depopulation agenda back then because they were concerned that they weren't, um,

00:32:12.420 managing the minds of the people well enough. That's when Jack Villani gave us the term conspiracy

00:32:18.740 theory for anyone questioning the media narrative. Wow. Yeah. Anyone who, who sees the truth is the

00:32:28.420 conspiracy theorist. Boy, that's a great reversal. They're just great at reversal. I mean, they're

00:32:35.540 great at it. Our, our old friend, Julia coined the phrase perverse reverse.

00:32:41.620 Yeah. Well, it's, it's like the, you know, with the term conspiracy theorist, they, they say that

00:32:49.060 about me, you know, and, and it won't come out of Wikipedia for anything, but the fact is, you know,

00:32:55.300 transformation of America, my, my 1995 testimony was censored under national security because every

00:33:01.940 bit of it had been validated, you know? So how, how can that, how can I be a conspiracy theorist if they

00:33:09.540 invoke national security? Do they invoke national security on conspiracy theories and a theory? I

00:33:16.500 mean, come on, if that's the case, then there's good excuse right there to revamp this so-called

00:33:21.380 national security act. Wow. Yeah. It's actually, everything's actually the opposite of what they

00:33:27.540 say. They, cause they reverse the truth. So it's like, uh, the national insecurity act is what it is.

00:33:34.580 Yeah. Yeah. Whenever they get scared. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the Patriot act is the, uh,

00:33:42.500 globalist anti sovereignty of America act. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Whatever they call it. We always

00:33:49.380 say this, whatever the, whatever they're doing is called, it's the opposite. Mom always says that.

00:33:54.180 And it comes in the, the ultimate is the bankers, all the banks are called, uh, trust and, uh,

00:34:02.100 fidelity. Fidelity and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. While they're stealing the blind and investment make bubbles 0.94

00:34:10.900 that then burst and buy up everything they stole from you. Dirt crisis. Can I ask a question to Kathy?

00:34:17.460 Do you mind? Uh, uh, uh, satanic ritual abuse, trauma-based mind control, what you're talking

00:34:25.060 about with pedophilia as a, as a mechanism of control though, is it satanic from the satanic

00:34:32.340 religion that they taught this to the Nazis that it works or is it the other way around? Or are they 0.77

00:34:36.980 just all kind of smart and go, Hey, if you traumatize a child, you can basically get what you want. It's

00:34:42.020 weird that I guess what I'm saying is that there's parallels with satanism and the world government.

00:34:47.460 Unless it's the same thing. Absolutely. Absolutely. Cause it's the scientific formula for mind

00:34:53.300 control. A trauma is the basis of it, you know? And, um, when you consider that the Hitler Himmler 0.96

00:35:00.900 research found there's no trauma more horrific than sexual abuse of a child prior to age five,

00:35:06.820 while the brain is still forming, they also found that right there next to it is satanic

00:35:12.420 ritual abuse because it's blood trauma. It's torture. It's, um, it's horrific to see

00:35:19.940 someone being murdered right in front of you, especially a child, you know, so you've got, um,

00:35:24.980 extreme trauma that's associated with that. And people like my primary MK ultra mind control

00:35:32.180 programmer, Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, who was part of the occult temple is set on military

00:35:38.100 basis for mind control purposes. Yeah. They, they got in there by saying freedom of religion

00:35:43.140 includes, includes Satanism. Yeah. Yeah. And he didn't even believe in, in, in satanic power

00:35:49.700 per se. He believed in his own power using trauma and a stun gun, you know? So, um, they, it's, it's,

00:35:57.780 uh, it's a compound usury situation of the effects of trauma. You know, you go back to the Spanish 1.00

00:36:04.340 Inquisition and the Crusades, they was, they were murdering people left and right who didn't comply 0.84

00:36:10.660 with the, the Vatican back then. So, um, all the way back then and the spoils of the war with the

00:36:17.380 children and those children, the Catholic orphanages were born and the children were being raised in there

00:36:23.700 to perpetuate the church, to perpetuate, to become the priests of the future. Um, and subjecting them

00:36:31.220 to more trauma made a more compliance. So they, they use the Satanism. And so you get, um, this, this

00:36:38.820 reversal, the, you know, perverse reverse again, the reversal of the Catholic mass into the, uh, Satanism.

00:36:46.260 And it, it causes, um, the, the brain to compartmentalize that much more. So that's why

00:36:54.500 they've been using it for a long, long time. They do it to Catholic children. They, they do it to 1.00

00:37:00.900 Catholic children. Incredibly incredible numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Really all religions, um, have, have been

00:37:09.780 infiltrated and, um, satanic abuse spans so many different versions of it, you know, even, even all

00:37:18.420 the way down to the Haitian voodoo and yeah, every religion, every religion is, uh, infiltrated, uh,

00:37:26.100 infiltrated and corrupted because of child sexual abuse to that. And then the, and then the job of 0.78

00:37:32.500 the community is to protect the pedophiles, not the children. Right. And it's everywhere in every religion.

00:37:39.780 It is, it is. And that's making it difficult because, um, the churches have been, um, infiltrated

00:37:48.020 and, and the people indoctrinated to, um, to, you know, give, give power away to evil. And,

00:37:58.340 you know, like it's, it's the ultimate control mechanism. It's not, we have been, um,

00:38:04.740 blessed with a victory. And it's satanic. It's satanic. I'm going to say this too. The satanic

00:38:10.580 part of it is that they tell them that's God. Oh, they do. They tell them that it's God. They

00:38:18.020 tell the children that Satan is as powerful as God, which he ain't. Evil is not as powerful as good.

00:38:25.460 It's not, it's an illusion. It's all an illusion. People always choose good. I mean,

00:38:31.780 if they're right in the head and the heart, they have to be forced to choose evil. That's the truth.

00:38:39.940 That's the mind control that, that is, that is when mind control is used because people,

00:38:46.260 when they're who they intended to be, who they know who they are and why they're here and have

00:38:52.020 that strength of spirit, then, um, that is these perpetrators greatest fear, you know,

00:38:59.460 haven't been around them deep in the swamp. That's what they fear the most is the strength

00:39:04.340 of the human spirit and the infinite power of love. It's the how highest vibration is the strongest

00:39:09.940 force. It's our victory. It's our natural victory. And they're afraid we're going to remember

00:39:17.380 that we have all the power and they only have as much power as we give them or let them steal.

00:39:22.740 In that regard, the mind control agenda is a spiritual warfare because the mind control is used

00:39:30.180 to keep us from tapping into that strength to remembering our power. It's, it's used to separate

00:39:36.980 us from that. Um, they can't possess it. They can't stop it. That'd be like dark creeping in on light.

00:39:44.180 They can't reach it. Um, it's too high of a vibration ever. Dark is incapable of destroying

00:39:51.220 light. You go in a room. It's you turn the light on. All the dark is gone. You don't go in a light

00:39:57.460 and turn the dark on. Right. I guess you turn the light off. I get trauma-based mind control.

00:40:04.820 That's what she's saying. That turns your light. Exactly. That's what it does. But it's internal

00:40:09.700 and we have light or we wouldn't be alive. Right. Yeah, that's right. And well, it's our birthright,

00:40:17.220 you know, it goes right back to birthright knowledge and, um, remembering who we are and

00:40:21.620 why we're here. Stop. Why are we here? Why are we here? Why are we here? Oh, to live the love we are to

00:40:32.180 unite, to, um, shine the light and expose what's going on in the darkness to stop this evil from

00:40:39.540 creeping in on humanity ever again. They have no business meddling with our brilliant minds and lives,

00:40:46.420 but they've been doing it a long, long time because, um, we haven't looked within to remember.

00:40:54.020 We've only looked outside ourselves to, you know, the big government, big pharma,

00:41:00.340 the self-appointed, self-anointed global leaders, the, um, big tech, big, um, cult to cult religion,

00:41:09.460 you know, telling us how to live our lives. We go within, we have it all. We remember,

00:41:16.740 and that is, is ultimately, I think a major purpose of, of life is to be able to live

00:41:26.100 the love we are, to be able to, um, reclaim that alignment, to align with the divine within,

00:41:35.140 not without, not outside us, to align with the divine within.

00:41:39.220 Yeah, because we are divine creations. We are. We are perfect being, and they don't want us to

00:41:46.340 know that in any way. I wanted to ask you, because you know so much about what was done to kids.

00:41:52.420 I wanted to ask you about another one of your, um, handlers or whatever you call it,

00:41:58.180 was Robert S. Byrd, right? And he brought, uh, that education into the schools of how to

00:42:05.940 teach kids what to think and not how to think, right?

00:42:09.780 Yeah, Byrd was in office for over 50 years. You know, we, we, we need to get some term limits

00:42:14.900 in Congress. That's ridiculous. They're not going to vote it in for themselves. You know, 0.95

00:42:18.980 people are going to have to wise up and demand it, but he was in for over 50 years

00:42:23.860 in the highest positions of power and influence, holding our country's purse strings,

00:42:29.220 deciding where money was going to be spent. And he made sure all of it went towards globalism.

00:42:34.500 While he spoke about the constitution for people to hear, he was eroding the constitution

00:42:40.660 with where the money was being spent. And, um, he made the states reliant on federal funding and

00:42:48.660 the education system. We don't need the federal government reigning over education. We need to

00:42:55.620 get it back to the states. We need to get it back to local levels and get parents involved again,

00:43:01.620 not have government dictate what's going to be taught in the schools. But he set it up that way

00:43:07.300 so that they could have their, cause there's not that many of them. They wanted those puppet masters 1.00

00:43:12.260 to be able to start manipulating everyone else. And they started indoctrinating the children in the

00:43:18.660 school system, teaching them what to think instead of how to think. And that was no accident because he

00:43:26.340 was also a Ku Klux Klan-er. Right. And so don't you think that a lot of, a lot of those government

00:43:33.780 things that he set up for, you know, federally, uh, controlled education were based on a hatred

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00:44:54.420 You can actually potentially save your own life with your own life insurance policy. It's a game

00:45:00.420 changer and I highly recommend you do it. It was just based on hatred all around.

00:45:06.420 You know, he was, he was my owner in MKUltra and was, he dictated all my actions. He became my owner

00:45:14.340 when I was 13 years old and I met him at the Epstein Island of its time, you know, Mackinac Island,

00:45:20.660 Michigan. He's the one who had an office in the FBI building in the mid eighties to set up the

00:45:26.420 National Center for Missing and Exploited Children as a catch net operation for traffic children so that 0.95

00:45:34.900 they could scoop them up and put them into the corrupted child protective services. Any court case

00:45:41.140 traffic? And then be traffic to Washington, D.C.?

00:45:44.900 Absolutely. And, and around the world. And, um, and however else they're going to harvest them and use

00:45:51.220 them. Like we said, it's always the opposite. So the Center for Exploited Children, of course,

00:45:56.020 that's how you know they're using it to exploit children. Yeah.

00:46:00.900 Yes, there's so many people. 1.00

00:46:02.260 Their names, their names, the shit they name stuff just gives them away, doesn't it? 1.00

00:46:06.900 They think we're that stupid. They think we're that brainwashed. 1.00

00:46:11.300 When we start to learn to listen, when we gain eyes to see, ears to hear, and soul to know truth

00:46:16.500 again, um, we'll start seeing through this illusion. There's so many children now that have been

00:46:22.180 medically kidnapped or, um, taken in, in, in illegal, immoral ways through a corrupted justice system

00:46:30.180 under the guise of national security and thrust into it. Everybody's experiencing,

00:46:35.300 everybody knows someone who's had a child taken into that custody. My own daughter was taken into

00:46:42.260 the corrupt system that I saw a bird setting up. And it was a absolute outrage. And ultimately,

00:46:50.260 that's what compelled me to start speaking out to begin with, was to draw attention to her plight.

00:46:56.020 It wasn't, um, it wasn't hatred. Hatred's low vibration. That's their vibration. They're not

00:47:02.020 going to get hatred and fear from me. Um, I'm going to live the love I am that's out of their reach,

00:47:07.060 you know? So, and love for Kelly was what compelled me to speak out. And what keeps me speaking out

00:47:12.260 today is love for her love for humanity, love for the children. Um, I'm going to keep speaking out

00:47:18.660 until people are able to wrap their minds around the reality that we share this planet with some real

00:47:25.380 dark negative force perpetrators. You know, we, we need to face that reality and realize they only

00:47:31.780 have as much power as we give them or let them steal. And they also, just like in the old vampire, uh,

00:47:39.780 myths, which I think are real, I think they were written by people who knew that there were, uh,

00:47:46.820 uh, blood drinkers. Um, and they tried to warn us through those, uh, stories, but, um, uh,

00:47:57.940 there's just too many people who know now there's too many people who lived through it. There's too

00:48:03.220 many people who survived it and it can't, it just can't be hidden anymore. It, it, it's, it's not

00:48:12.020 being hidden like they wanted, you know, um, it, it's been exposed. Now it's just a matter of

00:48:20.340 unraveling this mess and it's going to take a lot to do it, you know, which brings us right back around

00:48:27.060 to, you know, what this administration is doing within a corrupt government, even, you know, with,

00:48:35.060 with so much opposition right there in DC, and they're still working diligently to unravel

00:48:41.940 this mess while waking up the people to do their part. You know, it's a lot.

00:48:49.300 Yeah. I also wanted you to talk for a minute. It's a shocking and stunning thing, but I want you to say

00:48:55.380 it that, uh, because this shows how our government works or worked before Trump, because we both love

00:49:03.540 Trump, right? We love him. Well, look at all the awareness he's, um, he's raised awareness is the

00:49:12.500 first step towards positive, necessary change. You know, um, it doesn't mean I agree with every

00:49:18.980 political thing that he does, but this is bigger than politics. And, and what he did is bigger than

00:49:24.980 politics, waking people up. Um, that's, that's, um, that's phenomenal. Anybody who lives their life's

00:49:31.620 purpose so, so beautifully to make that much difference in the world, you know, should be

00:49:38.020 honored for that. Um, the media couldn't, the, the, these perpetrators couldn't stop them. They

00:49:44.580 couldn't blackmail them. They couldn't buy them out. He had his own money. They couldn't threaten

00:49:49.140 him. He had his own security. They couldn't do anything to, to stop him. And he's been outraged

00:49:54.980 since the mid eighties that I know of, um, with the child sex trafficking and MK ultra and everything 0.99

00:50:01.220 else. And they couldn't stop him. So the best they could do is media assassination, try to take

00:50:08.900 them down by making people think that he's, you know, one of them, you know, why do you expose them

00:50:17.700 if he's one of them? It doesn't make any sense, but the media has manipulated the population to, uh,

00:50:23.940 such a degree in so many ways that this is just one more thing that they did was do a character

00:50:29.300 assassination. They attempted to do that with you too. And just like Trump, you bounce back.

00:50:34.900 You're not going to take that. And the people didn't believe it anyway. And no matter how many

00:50:39.940 times the media repeated it and repetition is the most basic form of mind control, no matter how many

00:50:45.940 times the people, the media repeated it, the people knew better. They still know better. Now we need

00:50:51.940 to know what can we do. And, um, I want to know, I want to know what you, I want to hear what you say

00:50:59.300 about the fact, and it's in transformation of America, your testimony before Congress, I can see

00:51:06.020 why they said it's against national security because basically, uh, one of the pedophiles who assaulted you

00:51:15.700 as a child became the unelected president of the United States. Can you talk about that?

00:51:24.420 About Ford? Yeah. Um, my father was, uh, since I was born into a multi-generational family, um,

00:51:33.300 my father, um, a multi-generational incest family. Yeah. Yeah. Incest. And, um, my father was also

00:51:41.540 ritually abused and was, was passing that part down. My mother was, um, was sexually abused and

00:51:50.100 trafficked to my grandfather's blue Masonic lodge. These secret societies was where keep secrets on mind

00:51:57.140 control our cap. These places where these perpetrators meet in secret, you know, is where

00:52:03.780 they keep perpetuating it. And secrecy is our problem. We need truth out there. We need the

00:52:09.700 knowledge that's our defense against mind control. We need truth that makes us free. But, um, MK

00:52:16.580 ultra was already in full swing by the time, um, I was born into that mess in 1957 in Muskegon,

00:52:24.580 Michigan by 1960, I was being trafficked to my grandfather's blue Masonic lodge, just a little

00:52:31.060 itty bitty toddler. Um, I was trafficked to a local politician of the time, Gerald Ford. Of course,

00:52:38.500 Gerald Ford went on to become the unelected president of the United States as his political career

00:52:44.900 escalated. So tooted my victimization and MK ultra mind control and his political career escalated to the 0.53

00:52:53.140 office of president, uh, uh, office of president because he, um, covered up the Kennedy assassination

00:52:59.780 as head of the Warren commission. And, um, because that's when this globalist agenda took a strong

00:53:07.940 hold on our country when, um, Kennedy opposed them and opposed this agenda. Um, they eliminated

00:53:18.340 him and assassinated him and took him out and then they took control of our country. Then they also 0.98

00:53:25.620 put in the electronic voting machines in the wake of the Kennedy assassination so that they could,

00:53:30.980 they, that's what it was about. Yeah. They were rigged since their inception to put,

00:53:36.980 um, these perpetrators in positions of power, um, through the rigged elections. And that's how they

00:53:45.140 gained control. That's what they did right up until 2016. When, um, so many of us were awake and aware,

00:53:52.660 we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm, you know, so that was 2016. Look at us. Now we got this,

00:53:59.620 we got the victory. We just need to, um, understand the details now going forward, you know, and,

00:54:08.660 and what we can do to, um, effectively take back our freedom and preserve the sanctity of free thought

00:54:16.180 going forward, protect our children. Well, tell us a little bit about the, uh, organizations that

00:54:23.380 you're involved with that do this good work, Kathy. Um, a lot of them are just groups of people in

00:54:31.380 various places around the country, like the, uh, Rev 17 in Yuba city, California. They're taking action.

00:54:39.700 It's a, um, church based organization that isn't about, um, just preaching and talking. They're about

00:54:46.900 action. They heard about the children that were being rescued and realized they didn't have a safe

00:54:52.980 place for the children. And, um, so they wanted to open up a safe house. So the children wouldn't be

00:55:00.100 thrust back into the child protective services and just recycled into the system. So, um, the people

00:55:09.060 got together and, um, raised millions of dollars, um, for the, for the opening of the safe house,

00:55:18.660 the construction of it and the education of the people working it to, um, effectively help children.

00:55:26.980 That's, that's where I came in and where I still come in. Um, and there's so many of these that are

00:55:33.380 opening up everywhere. Um, I'm also very pleased to, I'm going to be speaking in, um, in Minneapolis

00:55:41.940 with ARC, the association for rescuing children that works under the, um, America's future project.

00:55:50.180 Um, and I'm so excited about that because that gives a strong national, um, outreach on low from

00:55:58.900 local levels. You know, they say the local action has national impact. Well, that national impact

00:56:05.460 has global impact and that's where, um, we're speaking and, and arming people with information. So,

00:56:12.500 um, um, the, whether it's, um, an, an organization of, of concerned citizens, if it's patriots, if it's

00:56:22.260 whoever it is, if it's, uh, an organization as, um, as honorable as, uh, and root well-rooted as America's

00:56:29.940 future, um, we don't have any obstacles in our way. Now we can take the action. We can help each other.

00:56:37.380 And you're not taking government money, right? Right, right. No government money. This is people

00:56:43.660 helping people instead of people giving their money away to foundations like the Clinton Foundation.

00:56:51.060 They're, they're doing it locally where they can see where it's going, where they can see what's

00:56:56.400 actually being done there. Cause you're building, you're building the safe house in your community.

00:57:02.540 Yes. With your community's, uh, ascent and, uh, sponsorship. You have to protect those too.

00:57:09.660 Cause they're going to be infiltrated if they start working. So we have to be.

00:57:13.260 That's right. Very vigilant if this is the way to go.

00:57:15.820 Well, we have Dr. Lois Lee, who she's laid the archetype for how to do it without government 0.99

00:57:21.500 interference and have a 85% success rate to rescue child prostitutes. Yeah. 0.53

00:57:27.820 And that's it. It's just thinking outside of the box that bird and all them pedos created for us.

00:57:34.620 Right. Right. And to realize that there's not justice through the justice system. So,

00:57:42.940 you know, we've got to be mindful of that and, um, and be wise in how we operate. That goes right back

00:57:50.120 to what Mark always said from the get go. Wisdom out thinks their criminal mind every time,

00:57:55.660 because when we have soul, we have discernment of truth and we have compassion for each other.

00:58:00.780 When we have the height and depth of the strength of spirit, we have the wisdom to out think their

00:58:07.420 flat linear thinking. That's why I'm not afraid of artificial intelligence. I'm not afraid of these

00:58:12.700 criminal minds. We got this. We just got to remember we got this. Yeah, I think so too. It is waking

00:58:20.460 up, but you know, I call it, I was calling it the great awakening and the great unraveling. And now

00:58:26.060 I'm calling it the great apostasy because that's our hope is the great apostasy from bullshit and coming 1.00

00:58:33.260 into light and actual intelligence, uh, and human survival of the human species. 0.78

00:58:41.340 It is. It's, it is. We're, we're, we're fighting for our survival. We're fighting for our rights. We're

00:58:48.620 fighting for our birthright. Um, and, and we're, we're winning because, um, they really can't reach

00:58:56.380 us when what we do is out of love instead of out of fear. It's vibrational. It's, it makes all the

00:59:03.180 difference in the world. It's kind of like when we're fearful, we can't think of a way out, but when

00:59:09.180 we, I have, we, we get clarity of thought when we're happy, you know, that's when we get the

00:59:14.140 ideas and we get the, cause our brains are firing, you know? So that's our victory. That is, is...

00:59:20.780 Jake, are you ritually abusing my granddaughter there? 0.59

00:59:24.060 Oh, can you hear her? I wish. I'm about to, if she doesn't be quiet. 0.91

00:59:28.540 Maybe that's a problem. Maybe I don't abuse her enough. I didn't know you could hear that. No,

00:59:33.820 Hannah's in there. She, she's, uh, she's Vilda. That's all I'm gonna say. My second born is, 1.00

00:59:40.300 is special. She's a wild one, Kathy. You gotta see this one. You won't believe it.

00:59:44.380 I can't wait to meet her. I'll tell you what, you know, in every way, she's a whirlwind,

00:59:50.140 tearing shit up and jumping off shit and causing all kinds of trouble for everybody. And then she, 0.99

00:59:56.380 she does. You're a granddaughter. No, yeah. When you, when you say no, no, she's Roseanne

01:00:04.220 Jr. And, and her mother is a lot like my mother. So she's got, she's third generation, uh, crazy 0.99

01:00:10.700 Scorpio. Uh, I gotta say one more thing. She just wanted to be part of this. She does. I'm sorry.

01:00:17.260 You could hear, uh, your book. So I know this is a short podcast, but you are talking about this.

01:00:23.420 Yeah. These methods you're talking about work. Cause you're, you're absolutely correct. Like

01:00:30.300 love and, and self-healing all stuff. These methods you're teaching, where can people find

01:00:34.700 more information on this? Cause this is how we're going to win this war. There's no other way around

01:00:38.540 it. She's got it. She's got it all. Thanks to Mark. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mark Phillips.

01:00:45.340 He said that he just wanted to live long enough to see Trump. Uh, what do you call it? Where he's sworn in

01:00:51.740 inaugurated. And yeah, that, and, um, when he saw that so many people were awake and aware,

01:01:01.340 they overrode the rigged algorithm to elect them. That was what made a huge difference. He said, okay,

01:01:07.100 we passed critical mass. It's a turning point. You know, we got this going forward. Um, because again,

01:01:13.660 you know, going back around to where we started with this, it's going to take each and every one of us,

01:01:19.500 the numbers, it's the people that are going to make the difference. We had a change of government.

01:01:24.620 It wouldn't have mattered if without the people waking up to realize what's been going on.

01:01:31.180 They're never, it would just create a vacuum that would be filled with more of the same corruption.

01:01:36.460 If the people didn't wake up to realize what's going on, that's where the true changes. That's where

01:01:41.980 it really happens. And Mark knew that that's why he was dedicated his whole career to preserving

01:01:49.180 the sanctity of free thought so that we could all have our free will, soul expression,

01:01:55.020 our strength, the spirit to live our life the way it was intended. What a noble, um,

01:02:00.780 what a noble purpose he lived. And then to release the information by, um, empowering,

01:02:07.100 how lucky am I, my daughter and me to heal, um, with that information, um, we were able to release it.

01:02:14.460 So it's posted on my website at trans-formation.com. It's PTSD time to heal. It has to pay what you can,

01:02:23.340 if you can option. So everyone can have it now, regardless of income. Um, you can zero out cost

01:02:29.420 and there's no money trail to you. And you can also overpay if you have the means. That's sweet.

01:02:36.060 Right. And, uh, you know, there's so many people who can't, um, who are in a situation where they

01:02:42.940 don't need, um, money trail going to their healing method. And then they know how to do it themselves

01:02:50.220 within. They can write out their memory. They don't have to tell anybody they're doing it. They can start

01:02:55.580 healing, identify all abusers. So they don't. Because what Mark taught you and what he taught you was the way

01:03:03.100 they deprogram, uh, uh, POWs from mine, from, uh, being brainwashed. Right. And the big, uh,

01:03:12.140 the biggest tool is to write with a paper and pencil. Right. Exactly. The very act of moving a pen

01:03:19.980 activates the logic critical analysis part of the brain. So it takes fear, trauma, anything emotionally

01:03:26.860 incomprehensible, shifts it over to logic where it's written out on paper, consciously seen,

01:03:33.740 and you got a brain process here of analyzing information that's crucial to healing. It opens

01:03:42.060 neuron pathways in the brain. Then you have healing psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally,

01:03:49.020 spiritually, everything all at once, because then you heal physically. Absolutely. Absolutely.

01:03:59.020 When the neuron pathways are, um, reopened, then we can learn to think again. And so mind control

01:04:07.980 shuts them down. Indoctrination in the school system, they're shutting them down. We need to open them back

01:04:12.940 up. Simple way to do it. Get writing by hand back in the school system. And that alone,

01:04:18.940 will stop the indoctrination of children. That's a, a simple little method we all can use that was

01:04:26.380 very deliberately taken out. Computers were put in keyboards do not do the same thing.

01:04:32.380 Twiddling thumbs on a cell phone does not do the same thing as picking up a pen and paper,

01:04:38.060 sitting in quiet, away from devices, away from noise, away from the frequencies they emit and sit there

01:04:48.380 and, um, um, get our brains working naturally the way that they're supposed to. Wow.

01:04:56.540 It's so simple. And of course, of course they would have compromised that for us,

01:05:01.820 but I like your work workbook. PTSD, a time to heal is a workbook also because

01:05:07.820 you write out your experience in it and it's helped so many people. One thing I like to do is buy a ton of

01:05:15.260 books and give them out to people who need them. And it's helped so many people. So many people have

01:05:20.780 told me how much your book, uh, PTSD time to heal has helped them, including, including returning

01:05:29.020 soldiers who got PTSD from the fight in Iraq and all the places we sent them. It helps them too. It can

01:05:37.340 help a lot of homeless vets too. It can help a whole lot of the survivors who are stuck in the victim

01:05:44.140 mentality to realize they don't need anyone intruding on their minds. That's adding to the

01:05:50.940 problem that they can just go within and reclaim their birthright to live free, think free, reclaim

01:05:58.780 their joy. Um, get out in nature, you know, feel the sun on the skin, feel the wind in your hair,

01:06:07.980 breathe it in, you know, all these things make such a big difference. And, um, people have just

01:06:14.540 forgotten that because we've been, um, conditioned to the, the, you know, little looking outside ourselves

01:06:23.740 into devices and, you know, we need to stop that and get back to what's natural.

01:06:29.740 And if you think about it, these devices, if you, if you pay attention to how social media,

01:06:33.580 especially nowadays, it's, it's being exacerbated with like the gods and war and all this stuff

01:06:38.300 going around the world. It is trauma-based mind control that you're in micro form all day long.

01:06:43.660 I left social media about three and a half weeks ago. Finally, I just, because I realized I get on

01:06:47.980 there, I get traumatized, I start arguing and it's pulling me out of my feeling. I'm thinking,

01:06:53.820 I think they figured out the bad guys that, Hey, we don't just have to do satanic ritual, 0.82

01:06:57.820 pedophilic abuse. We can just fuck with these people on their phones, in their bedrooms and 1.00

01:07:02.380 control their mind. And they're dividing Maga. Well, look at all the snap judgment modes on, 1.00

01:07:10.060 you know, thinking further, they're just snap judging. And that was intended through, um,

01:07:16.300 through these devices. And I've Mark taught me, he said, um, from the beginning voice,

01:07:21.660 no negatives without a solution. Not only did that keep me from just complaining all the time,

01:07:26.940 you need to have to listen to it, but it actually forced my brain to think in new ways and opened

01:07:34.300 more neuron pathways. Cause I needed to learn how to think we all do. Um, we need to reclaim that.

01:07:40.860 And so what if social media had that rule voice, no negatives without a solution.

01:07:47.500 Can you imagine how much humanity would change with that one application?

01:07:52.780 Well, it would be, I have to say it would depend on the solution. A lot of the solutions that, uh,

01:08:00.060 mass media puts out there are satanic too.

01:08:02.620 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we can, um, I think we have to say if it comes from a place of hate,

01:08:11.820 then it's satanic. And I think we have to say, I think we also have to say if you are in a, uh,

01:08:19.020 because this is deep philosophy, but I think it's true. Um, if you're in a victim mode,

01:08:25.420 you've fallen right into the lap of the satanic because the victim mode thinking like that you're

01:08:32.220 a victim of anything or anyone, unless you truly are, I'm not talking about that, but the victim,

01:08:38.460 uh, mode narrative that goes on, on the internet and TV and all media that absolves you for any

01:08:46.460 responsibility for the actions you take. Cause you're like, I'm oppressed. So I can,

01:08:51.500 blah, blah. I can hit, I can commit violence. I can hate because I'm resisting, but you're not, 0.99

01:08:59.260 you fell right into the victim mode, which is satanic thought because you have to be free

01:09:06.220 of that. You have to be free of that to actually create and live and, and be joyful human being

01:09:13.500 that lives the love we are. Like you say, Kathy. Hallelujah. Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

01:09:20.700 That this victim mentality, um, has, has got to stop because when people don't know their own

01:09:27.660 truth and they stay in that victim mentality, um, when people don't know their own truth,

01:09:32.300 they're hanging on to program. And if they got program, um, they want to share it with everybody

01:09:38.540 and force it on everybody. That's what, um, where all the arguing comes in, uh, among survivors.

01:09:45.340 No, you have to look at it my way. You have to buy into my perception because they need validation,

01:09:50.780 um, from outside themselves for the lies that they're following. You know, we need to get through

01:09:56.940 that curve and know our own truth. And that takes going within when we know our own truth,

01:10:03.100 then we're strong in it. We don't need anybody to validate that for us. We don't have to push it on

01:10:08.300 to everyone that allows everyone to have their own path and heal from within. And it stops this,

01:10:14.620 this constant bickering that's going on in this, um, this overwhelming push of ideas. I think that

01:10:22.780 we saw magnified with mind control masters, a virus, you know, those who bought into the program,

01:10:28.940 those who didn't, you know, mask up, you got to wear your mask, you know, because that was their

01:10:34.300 program. They, and they wanted everybody to buy into that program. Uh, cause they didn't know that

01:10:39.980 they want us masked Kathy. Um, because it depersonalizes and inhibits oxygen to the brain

01:10:48.940 necessary for critical analysis, free thought. And it muffles voices, especially from six feet away

01:10:56.140 and the depersonalization it caused. As soon as the children developed identity disorders from

01:11:04.220 it, then that was redefined by the school system as a gender, um, uh, gender problem that they had, 1.00

01:11:14.300 uh, um, uh, they, they didn't know their own gender. And so they redefined it so they could push the

01:11:20.780 transgender movement in, which is a, a pedophile agenda that is also a depopulation agenda rolled 0.98

01:11:28.700 into one. Cause there's no human procreation with it. Right. But, um, it's horrible what we 0.99

01:11:34.060 did with the children just by masking them up and then putting them behind plexiglass,

01:11:40.220 depersonalizing them until they don't even know who they are and then telling them it's gender

01:11:45.420 confusion. And the next thing they know, they go from the masks and the plexiglass to stuff

01:11:51.340 in dollars and tranny panties. We've really messed up a generation. We all better wake up, 0.97

01:11:57.900 remember who we are and why we're here. Reclaim our free thought and start protecting our children

01:12:03.260 going forward. We got a generation to heal big time. Amen. Don't you think that the parents

01:12:10.060 of these children that allowed that are under heavy, heavy duty, mind control?

01:12:17.500 They've been, um, indoctrinated and conditioned for so long that, um, they're only now waking up to

01:12:25.020 realize it. You know, like, um, there's so many parents that are dealing with overwhelming grief.

01:12:32.700 They're seeing the results of what happened when they got, had their kids get the injection and

01:12:38.220 mask them up. They're, they're having to deal with that reality. Now they've got overwhelming grief.

01:12:44.060 You know, again, pick up that pen, write out your grief, write out your guilt, write out your trauma,

01:12:51.740 write out your fear, write out what's immobilizing you, add a solution, you know, and get your brain

01:12:57.980 firing because, um, we got to make sure that we evolve with the knowledge we just gained and never,

01:13:05.580 never let this happen again. Wow. Well said. What do you think about Q and on Kathy?

01:13:12.780 Um, I think that that was a way of being able to get a lot of people to open their eyes. Um,

01:13:21.500 it's nothing that I had time to follow in any way, but, um, I understand that the efforts to wake

01:13:30.460 people up and get them to understand the magnitude of the problem that we're unraveling right now,

01:13:35.660 um, had to be come at from a lot of different angles. So, um, the, instead of, you know,

01:13:42.860 snap judging one thing or the other, we need to expand our thinking and look into find the truth

01:13:51.020 and everything and, um, start pulling that together because like you were saying at the

01:13:56.060 beginning, Roseanne, it's such a, so perfect, you know, everybody's got to bring their piece

01:14:00.620 of the puzzle to the table so that the big picture comes into focus and we can all be effective,

01:14:06.140 taking back our minds, our lives, and our world.

01:14:11.260 Here's to that. Here's to that.

01:14:15.340 Amazing.

01:14:16.700 I wanted to talk about like how we talk, uh, how long have we been on this, Jake? How long have we

01:14:22.540 been on this?

01:14:22.860 Hour 13.

01:14:25.420 Okay. Well, I want, I want to wrap it up with...

01:14:28.060 Yeah, we can have her back anytime.

01:14:30.380 Yeah, we want to come back a lot, but I just, we didn't even get into how me and you talk to

01:14:36.540 each other, which I think maybe next time you, you come on here, we'll, we'll do some of that

01:14:42.060 because we don't, you know, we're just sharing information today, but we're beyond all that for

01:14:48.060 years and, uh, we're, we're into a whole other realm between me and you where we are, we are

01:14:58.300 noticing and understanding what our brains in fact are capable of. And we do all kind of thought

01:15:08.940 experiments together just to see how it works because it is miraculous, ain't it?

01:15:19.500 It really is. You know, we, we have been taught that our, our brains, um, if we use 10% of our brain,

01:15:27.900 what's the rest of it? You know, I mean that we've got so much that we have access to our life's

01:15:34.060 experience. I think blasted us into primitive parts of our brain and intuitions and, and, and

01:15:40.140 other sense heightened senses and capabilities that, um, we all have access to when we remember

01:15:47.500 though to use those parts of our brain, you know, we have, uh, it's part of our defense mechanism.

01:15:54.140 It's even with survivors who are still in the victim mode, you know, and, and have the overactive

01:16:00.700 adrenal systems and they're in fear all the time. You know, if they just, Hey, tap into what your

01:16:05.900 brain's got active there and integrate that in and start using it, then you have added defenses.

01:16:14.220 And all of a sudden that alone calms the adrenal system to where the body can heal too. So the,

01:16:21.660 the mind over body aspect is something everyone needs to tap into the things you and I talk about

01:16:28.700 are so deep and profound and I can't wait to be together in person. Maybe, um, we can get into

01:16:35.820 a deep discussion, um, on camera with that kind of stuff right now. I'm working on a, uh, another book,

01:16:42.700 um, align with the divine within that, um, reminds people to, you know, use those aspects of the brain

01:16:51.580 that you and I are so aware of and know so much about. So, you know, it's, um,

01:16:56.700 it's not, it's not just mind over the physical body you're living in, but it's actually mind

01:17:03.820 over matter too. It is. And there's so much synchronicity that like what you mentioned,

01:17:10.060 you know, that people forget to align with, there's so much possibility and, um, and capability

01:17:16.060 that we all have. We've been distracted for so long by these shallow, you know, headline news,

01:17:21.820 snap judgments, social media and everything else we need, we need to get back to, um, appreciating

01:17:28.780 the magnitude of what we've been blessed with all along. And, um, I think you and I are real good at,

01:17:33.900 at, at sharing that with each other, the exciting things that, um, that we have rediscovered about

01:17:41.900 the amazing, the amazing way that humanity has been made. I like when we sit on your porch and

01:17:50.460 like, we just, uh, start thinking about birds and then birds show up.

01:17:59.020 Yeah. The vibrational frequencies.

01:18:01.020 Yeah. It's, it's, it's Cherokee sacred land and, and like whatever your vibrational frequency is

01:18:10.540 draws particular animals to you right now. I've got hummingbirds everywhere, which is a really great

01:18:16.940 frequency, um, that, that animals come to deer when deer come up in your yard and just walk up to you.

01:18:23.500 It's because your vibration is proper. It's right. You're in a good space. Um, and yeah,

01:18:29.580 so we get to share that when we're together and, um, have that, that beautiful experience with nature.

01:18:36.780 It's a mind blower to say, Oh, everything's connected. Everything. That's the big one that

01:18:43.980 people need to see. And they are so programmed to, uh, not see it, but it's, you know, not see

01:18:52.620 it, but it's right there. It's right there. If you get over that big hurdle where,

01:19:01.340 you know, that system of non-thought tries to control what God gave you, what the universe,

01:19:08.380 the good, the good in you, um, the divinity in you, boy, they don't like any of that. They sure hate

01:19:15.020 that. And, uh, you know, but I, I don't know. Well, it was my great pleasure to introduce you

01:19:22.220 to president Trump and I want to end by you telling what, what that was like for you to meet him.

01:19:30.460 Well, it's a, it's a first president I ever, ever met that had, um, soul, you know, like, and, and

01:19:38.300 genuine care and compassion for humanity. And, um, um, in addition to extremely vast intelligence,

01:19:45.500 it was, it was an amazing experience for me that was complete opposite of anything that my life

01:19:51.980 had conditioned me to think of someone in his position. And, um, it, it's not that it was so

01:20:00.140 much a surprise because, um, I knew that these perpetrators feared him. I knew that he was vastly

01:20:07.660 different from them. I knew that Mark was real excited about the, the prospects of what was to

01:20:15.100 come. So, um, it was just a validation of the beauty that life really does have to offer when

01:20:25.100 we dare to open our eyes and see beyond what we think we know. Oh, that is so great. What a great way

01:20:32.140 to end it. I love you so much. Oh, well, your other book is, uh, there's transformation of America

01:20:40.300 and, uh, what's the other one? I can't remember. PTSD, a time for healing.

01:20:45.340 And the other one, Kathy. Access denied for reasons and national security. That's the

01:20:52.380 marks in my journey through the corrupted justice and mental health system to help

01:20:56.460 my daughter, Kelly. So it shows the corruption of child protective services and the roots of it,

01:21:03.340 how they do it. And what we did to kick down doors and make our way through it. So, um, yeah,

01:21:11.020 it's a, uh, a timely book for right now. It's like a roadmap into the corruption,

01:21:16.540 into the system and, uh, what we can do about it.

01:21:20.380 Well, thank you for, uh, kickstarting this whole great awakening movement for the 40 some years

01:21:29.420 you've been at it. And for all of the, uh, humiliation that you has been heaped on you by

01:21:37.420 these people who are on the wrong side of life, history, humanity, but here you are and you look

01:21:43.580 better than ever. And I love you. And thanks for being on today. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

01:21:49.340 You're amazing. I love you. I love you, Kathy. Thank you so much. Thank you.

The Roseanne Barr Podcast - August 29, 2025

Declassifying Presidential Sex Slavery W⧸ Cathy O'Brien ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #113

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