The Roseanne Barr Podcast

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00:00:30.960 It's a good thing God brought you here because, you know, we intend to liberate you here because you're all slaves.

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00:00:43.860 Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.

00:00:47.380 Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.

00:00:54.060 Here we are.

00:00:54.920 And you know how I love to talk to geniuses.

00:00:57.140 I have the genius of all geniuses.

00:00:59.960 As a matter of fact, I have to tell this story.

00:01:02.680 My mom used to run a daycare and she had this little boy there.

00:01:06.120 And he told my mom, boys have a penis and girls have a virginius.

00:01:12.600 Which I just always loved.

00:01:15.900 And my guest today is a virginius.

00:01:20.780 A woman who, she's a woman among women.

00:01:25.480 She's like top level woman.

00:01:27.820 She's the reason we broke through the curtain of bullshit that was holding us down since, I don't know, since right after World War II, Operation Paperclip.

00:01:41.600 She's the one that exposed it all and why we are where we are today, why we have Trump as our president, why we're all fighting the good fight for the sake of the children of this world.

00:01:52.740 She's my oldest and dearest friend, Kathy O'Brien.

00:01:56.080 Hi, Kathy.

00:01:57.760 Hi.

00:01:58.740 It's so good to be here with you.

00:02:00.800 Second time.

00:02:01.880 You've been.

00:02:03.000 Yeah, this is the second time.

00:02:04.600 But the first time in two years, which we were saying, we got to do another one.

00:02:08.720 We did that Sean, what's his face.

00:02:12.640 Yeah, that was that we've we've done some great interviews together.

00:02:16.300 But I'm looking forward to being together, you know, eye to eye with you again, where, you know, we're in the same room.

00:02:23.800 It's been too long since we've actually been together.

00:02:26.100 And I'm looking forward to that because you're such an inspiration and a genius and so fun to be with.

00:02:33.280 And our conversations are always so profound and deep.

00:02:36.920 So I'm looking forward to that.

00:02:39.160 And I'm also looking forward to what information we can bring to light together today.

00:02:44.480 Yeah.

00:02:45.340 Yeah.

00:02:45.820 Let's jump right in.

00:02:47.980 Jake, what was the question you asked her?

00:02:49.800 Because I said, we've got to start with that.

00:02:52.220 It was about was it about Epstein?

00:02:53.840 Well, I was about specifically the handling of the Epstein files by Pam Bondi and Cash and Trump and this administration, because I bring it up every week on this podcast.

00:03:04.160 I'm not happy with the direction.

00:03:05.680 But, Mom, you always tell me there's this greater plan in place.

00:03:08.960 So I asked Kathy during the pre-interview what she thought.

00:03:12.600 And that was my question.

00:03:13.820 Do you are you?

00:03:14.680 What do you think, Kathy?

00:03:16.240 That was my question.

00:03:18.300 I'm excited by what's going on, because Mark and I used to discuss this at length.

00:03:23.980 You know, what would it take to unravel the new world order?

00:03:28.300 This globalist agenda that's permeated all aspects of society, from education, churches, governments, it's just really everything.

00:03:40.360 They've permeated everything.

00:03:41.960 What would it take to stop the corruption?

00:03:45.300 What would it take to stop the dumbing down of humanity into compliant little slaves in their globalist slave society agenda?

00:03:55.580 And we realized that ultimately, regardless of what happens on a political end, the most important part is going to be up to each and every one of us to wake up and do our part, to realize that this global swamp can't be drained from the top down.

00:04:15.880 It has to be drained from the bottom up.

00:04:18.260 And that's going to take us all.

00:04:19.720 And that's going to take us all reclaiming our free thought, free will, soul expression, our strength of spirit, you know, where we align with each other and join on that level naturally and start restoring morality, decency and the brilliance to the brains that we have been blessed with.

00:04:42.520 You know, it's it's it's time, but it's going to take all of us.

00:04:45.660 So I'm not so upset at what I'm seeing politically.

00:04:48.960 It's going to take a long time for that system to clean up.

00:04:52.560 In the meantime, there are children being rescued everywhere from child sex trafficking rings, that human trafficking, drug trafficking, especially child sex trafficking are the funding mechanism of this globalist agenda.

00:05:08.960 We need to defund the new world order, stop child sex trafficking.

00:05:13.600 And that's exactly what people are starting to do.

00:05:16.120 So they're taking that action because the children can't wait for this system to clean up.

00:05:21.680 It's going to take a long time.

00:05:23.180 We're seeing how long it takes.

00:05:24.720 We're seeing how long it takes to even just drag through one thread of this tapestry with the Epstein files.

00:05:33.840 It's going to take a while.

00:05:34.880 Do you specific?

00:05:36.540 Well, the last question, do you just I know we want to get off the political and I agree with you about that we all have to do this together.

00:05:45.120 But specifically this administration, Trump and Bondi and et cetera, are are they doing the right thing?

00:05:51.060 I know they're arresting and doing other things.

00:05:52.840 But in regards to the Epstein files in that global system, do you feel happy that they're they're tearing through it or do you think they're covering it up or any of that?

00:06:01.480 So I feel like they might be covering it up.

00:06:04.760 I definitely don't feel like it's being covered up.

00:06:07.580 There's more involved in this than people realize.

00:06:10.400 There's the the whole blackmail network.

00:06:12.940 We need to know who's holding the blackmail for what purposes, who are the perpetrators at the top of this, who are these self-appointed, self-annoyed global leaders that are dehumanizing humanity in order to align us with flat thinking A.I.

00:06:30.700 and with their flat thinking criminal agenda.

00:06:33.880 You know, it's got to it's got to stop.

00:06:35.980 And in order to unravel all that, you know, this is just one thread they need to pull.

00:06:41.060 The blackmail tapes themselves are one form of evidence.

00:06:46.980 We've got to have a justice system to prosecute these these pedophiles and perpetrators through.

00:06:52.020 We don't have a justice system in place yet.

00:06:55.300 They've been running it for too long to cover up their crimes against humanity.

00:06:59.040 They invoke national security or anything else and just keep going.

00:07:02.700 So it's going to take a while.

00:07:04.560 And right now, what we need to know is what exactly is this agenda all about?

00:07:09.400 What are they doing with the children?

00:07:11.900 How can this many children be missing?

00:07:14.500 What are they doing harvesting our children?

00:07:16.820 What is the adrenochrome all about?

00:07:18.820 We need to get to the very bottom of this and take down the puppet masters at the top.

00:07:24.140 So rather than using, you know, now that this administration has got the hold of the blackmail tapes, if they play another man's game and use blackmail to the blackmailers, it's not going to accomplish as much as they can if they just use their information gained as leverage against this whole global network that's been gaining control for generations.

00:07:51.560 Now, it's going to take a while to unravel.

00:07:54.560 Well, Kathy, as a child, you were part of the building of that international network, weren't you?

00:08:00.780 You were used as a child sex slave in order to build that international network of pedophiles that sit atop of every government and every NGO and everything.

00:08:13.720 Right. Absolutely. And my my uncle was a part of the blackmail network and distributing the tapes.

00:08:23.460 And he was flying a lot of them to the Vatican. The Vatican has a huge ball of these blackmail tapes.

00:08:29.240 That's a big piece of a puzzle right there. And that's only one piece of this puzzle.

00:08:33.360 When we get to the top of, you know, who's who's doing this and why we start to understand and haven't been exposed to that.

00:08:41.940 I was used in the blackmail videos myself at the Epstein Island of his time, Mackinac Island, Michigan.

00:08:48.440 So I was among these global perpetrators and I know how far reaching this is, how deep it goes and how long they've been doing it and getting away with it.

00:08:58.940 You were you were you were sold by your father into the MKUltra child altering terrorizing torture machine of the CIA, U.S. government, weren't you?

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00:11:03.040 Yeah, I was.

00:11:05.460 There's so many children that have been in a position like I was, but there's not that many who've survived.

00:11:12.780 I mean, look at all the people who've even tried to expose this mess, how many have been dying.

00:11:18.040 And, you know, we've got to get some justice restored to the system.

00:11:23.540 And people need to start seeing some accountability for actions because right now there's a consequence.

00:11:31.180 People need to first demand accountability, which the American people, that seems to escape them, that they have the right to demand of this government accountability for what's happened to the children of this country and every country where these long hands of crime have toppled governments to get at their kids.

00:11:54.320 It's every evil thing that they have been involved in.

00:11:57.740 Don't you think because our tax dollars pay for it all that we have the right and the responsibility to demand the accountability of our government?

00:12:11.300 Well, I think the people are doing it.

00:12:13.920 You know, the people have been demanding it for a long time.

00:12:17.220 It's just the media is not giving us voice.

00:12:19.420 They're not saying that we're being heard.

00:12:22.020 You know, so many of us were awake and aware 2016 that we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm in the voting machine to put in a president who wasn't Hillary Clinton in her new world order, to put in a president who exposed their funding mechanism of drug and human trafficking, showed us there was a swamp in Washington, D.C.

00:12:42.120 And that woke even more people up.

00:12:44.220 Then in 2020, these perpetrators were so desperate to regain control, they unleashed mind control massed as a virus on the global population.

00:12:53.400 Everybody got a taste of mind control.

00:12:55.780 Then that raised awareness that much more because these fools, they're so stupid.

00:13:01.440 They messed up and they told everybody to shelter at home.

00:13:05.700 Mind control needs to shut down neuron pathways in the brain.

00:13:09.660 Trauma causes them to shut down.

00:13:11.960 Fear causes them to shut down.

00:13:13.820 That's what they need to use.

00:13:16.540 But where they made their mistake is having a shelter at home because when people broke their routine patterns, it forced their brains to fire in new ways.

00:13:25.360 And it got those neuron pathways opening.

00:13:27.700 So they made a big mistake and people were sheltering at home and saying, hey, what are our kids being taught in the school system?

00:13:34.600 What is this sexualization of children going on?

00:13:37.880 They started talking to each other and it really just woke more people up.

00:13:42.960 So, you know, we've got this massive movement now.

00:13:46.560 The Great Awakening is real.

00:13:48.660 But like my daughter, Kelly, was saying the other day, you know, wow, this Great Awakening has passed critical mass.

00:13:56.380 But now people have a long way to go to catch up.

00:14:00.360 There's a lot of information they've got to learn.

00:14:03.340 There's a lot they need to open their eyes to in order to be effective in dismantling this mess and preventing it from ever happening again.

00:14:11.560 So, Ellen, it's quite a good work.

00:14:16.700 Your book, Transformation of America, which is your testimony before Congress, you were detailing the child trafficking at the border like decades ago.

00:14:28.520 That was part of your story too, isn't it?

00:14:30.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:32.100 Yeah, and my 1995 testimony for Congress, every bit of it was validated.

00:14:38.520 That's why national security was invoked on it.

00:14:41.460 You know, clean members of law enforcement and intelligence had it validated.

00:14:46.480 Secret Service.

00:14:47.200 Now, there's a lot of good people in key positions who've been doing their best to dismantle this mess, fully realizing that until people open their eyes and realize how vast manipulation has become,

00:15:02.320 to realize mind control sliding scale from the kind of torturous, robotic MKUltra mind control I experienced on a White House Pentagon level to the kind of mind control MKUltra going on in Hollywood that you're aware of to information control.

00:15:20.600 Because we all formulate our thoughts, opinions, and actions based on what we know.

00:15:24.740 We need to know that knowledge base has been altered for a long, long time, very deliberately, to dumb us down and to keep us from knowing how to take action ourselves.

00:15:37.120 We've been conditioned so long to look to big government, big pharma, big tech, big cult-to-cult religion to tell us how to live our lives.

00:15:45.580 But we forgot.

00:15:46.800 We got all the power.

00:15:47.940 You know, we forgot to look within and align with that divine within and tap in to that power because that's our victory.

00:15:58.060 That's where we win.

00:15:59.960 That's where they lose.

00:16:01.380 That's what they're afraid we're going to do.

00:16:03.740 So they instead keep us bombarded with trauma after trauma, suppress truth and information.

00:16:11.400 Even though the information on child sex trafficking has come out, even though people have seen what's happening on our borders, how they're being turned into a corrupted so-called child protective services system, and then trafficked right from there.

00:16:27.620 You know, turned back out because the same people own the whole corrupt system.

00:16:32.940 So people are starting to realize that.

00:16:35.140 Including the media.

00:16:36.120 The media is what keeps us blind to it, right?

00:16:39.140 Yes.

00:16:39.480 They do.

00:16:40.460 And then again, the area where I'm working and speaking out nationally now all across the nation, empowering people to be effective in helping the children because the people started taking action themselves.

00:16:58.000 When Trump was reelected this time, the obstacles that have been put in everyone's way from being able to take action themselves have been removed.

00:17:09.980 Yeah, the bureaucracy that kept it all in place because that's how people were getting paid on their government jobs is to keep the devilish, the satanic empire in place.

00:17:22.800 That's what they were working for, that's what they were working for, not the U.S. government or the people.

00:17:27.280 Absolutely.

00:17:28.560 And now the people are so fed up with that and they're just taking action themselves.

00:17:33.140 But as they're taking action, they're realizing they don't know how to help these children.

00:17:41.120 They can give them a safe place to be, but what do they do from there?

00:17:45.120 And that's the information that I'm sharing because...

00:17:49.020 Can you tell us about that information and what you are sharing?

00:17:52.040 And I know you're part of a whole growing network across this country of basically moms and some dads and grandparents,

00:18:00.120 but American citizens that are offering redemption to these children who have been so damaged.

00:18:10.120 Yeah, the information I used for healing was suppressed under national security.

00:18:16.200 It's our birthright information.

00:18:18.140 But it was suppressed ever since the 1947 National Security Act went into place.

00:18:24.980 It was in the wake of the World War II when we imported the Nazi and fascist scientists into the U.S. with Project Paperclip.

00:18:33.440 With them came the formula for mind control.

00:18:35.680 Well, our information on mind-brain function, that's our natural defense against mind control,

00:18:43.200 our ability to heal from any trauma was suppressed and buried under national security.

00:18:49.740 It was withheld from the mental health community, the medical community, from the education system.

00:18:56.640 Pertinent information, the medical system doesn't have like our subconscious, never sleeps.

00:19:02.540 If the medical community knew that in the course of surgery, they could say healing affirming thoughts instead of,

00:19:12.080 you know, whoa, look at this mess, you know, drama that only adds to the difficulty in recovering from surgery.

00:19:19.940 There's some very simple mind-brain functions that have been suppressed for a long time.

00:19:27.000 When Mark saw it buried under national security, he was living.

00:19:29.440 Oh, I want to say your husband, I wanted to say your husband, Mark Phillips,

00:19:35.060 who was a white hat, before they even had that word.

00:19:39.540 Yeah.

00:19:40.580 And he was doing business in China way back when that was new.

00:19:47.540 And isn't it the Chinese that told him about how so many business folk from America coming there

00:19:57.980 were actually compromised by pedophilia?

00:20:05.060 Yes, and there were those in China that were doing all they could at the time to restore free thought to the people.

00:20:13.900 This was a global agenda and there was a global movement.

00:20:18.920 And they had alerted Mark to the fact that my daughter Kelly and I were slaves.

00:20:26.180 They had information on our circumstance.

00:20:30.020 And Mark decided to do something about it and lifted Kelly and I right out of the Washington, D.C. human trafficking swamp

00:20:38.260 and handed us keys to our own mind, that birthright information that was buried under national security.

00:20:45.900 He liberated that buried on purpose information for how to heal, right?

00:20:53.680 He liberated that from the dark hats.

00:20:56.740 He did.

00:20:57.640 He wasn't able to reveal it himself because he was bound by laws of sedition.

00:21:02.660 But it was my experience to heal with it.

00:21:05.420 So I could release the information.

00:21:07.940 I'm not bound by any laws of sedition.

00:21:10.360 Besides, it's humanity's birthright information about the resiliency of our body, mind and spirit.

00:21:18.580 So, yeah, I not only have I released it in PTSD time to heal, as you so well know, because you wrote the on the on the back of it,

00:21:29.980 but, you know, attesting to it since you had met Mark and knew about these methods yourself, this is just easy for anyone to self-apply.

00:21:40.020 So this is what I'm teaching others right now, how to be effective in helping the children is for them to first remember their own birthright information and then empower the children with it.

00:21:53.500 It's all such a natural process because, you know, ultimately we were made perfect.

00:22:00.700 Our brains are perfect.

00:22:02.800 Our brains have so much healing capacity.

00:22:06.420 Our bodies are perfect.

00:22:07.960 We don't need 79 vaccines to survive.

00:22:12.420 What I just read the other day, I read something where they're finding out that dandelions have a property that kills cancer.

00:22:20.420 There's so many simple ways when we go back to nature.

00:22:27.040 Kathy, can I ask you a question?

00:22:29.980 Real quick.

00:22:30.940 You said Mark found this healing information was buried under national security.

00:22:36.160 I don't want to gloss over that because that you have to tell me more about that.

00:22:40.320 That's fascinating.

00:22:42.880 How is it?

00:22:43.820 But what did he stumble upon classified information or what does that mean?

00:22:47.880 He was in military intelligence.

00:22:51.220 And he saw there was ways that the military understood we could heal from trauma and they buried it under national security?

00:22:57.540 Yeah, he was above military intelligence, actually.

00:23:00.460 He was very high up.

00:23:02.420 He could wear any hat.

00:23:05.220 And he saw how mind control was being used on the global population.

00:23:08.880 He saw how it was being used to overtake nations.

00:23:16.020 And he was very disturbed by the pedophile agenda, which is really a mind control agenda.

00:23:22.460 Because people didn't know the effects of trauma on the human mind.

00:23:27.260 That sexual abuse of a child prior to age five, while the brain is still forming, creates a compliance for the rest of their lives.

00:23:35.060 Because it shuts down neuron pathways in the brain.

00:23:38.120 And if people had that information, they would understand that pedophilia is not a sexual preference.

00:23:46.340 It's not a perversion.

00:23:47.620 It's a control mechanism.

00:23:50.280 And it's intended to dumb down humanity.

00:23:54.160 We are devolving because of the generational implementation of this.

00:24:00.700 But in order for them to be able to use mind control to that degree, they had to take away our knowledge that is our defense against it.

00:24:09.580 They had to take away our birthright knowledge on our own mind-brain function so they could manipulate us by it and subject us to trauma after trauma.

00:24:20.220 So when Mark saw that, and it's humanity's birthright information, he wanted to find a way to release it.

00:24:27.720 And it's so important because with that information buried under national security, the mental health community was taught to promote the victim mentality, to keep people locked into it.

00:24:46.120 You know, if people aren't thinking free and they're locked into that victim mentality, they stay in fear mode.

00:24:54.040 They're in survival mode all the time.

00:24:56.080 Yeah, all the time.

00:24:57.280 And if they perpetuate that very deliberately, then that has really caused a lot of problems now for survivors who want to heal but are given really bad therapy, really bad information.

00:25:14.860 And ultimately, the answer is if you look outside yourself for answers, then that's going to be more intrusive information in and your brain is not going to accept it.

00:25:26.940 The brain is overwhelmed with this intrusion and shuts down.

00:25:30.780 It won't heal.

00:25:31.740 It needs to be safe from intrusion.

00:25:34.720 So we don't need invasive therapy.

00:25:37.780 We don't need these online therapy courses that artificial intelligence is offering.

00:25:45.880 What the heck is that?

00:25:47.400 You know, talk about looking outside yourself.

00:25:49.700 But not only that, they're collecting all the data on how to repress the information further in order to keep people compliant and keep them from remembering secrets,

00:25:59.440 to keep them from remembering details of what goes on in the Epstein Islands and, you know, all these victims that have been subjected to that.

00:26:10.520 They can just shut them right down.

00:26:12.460 You know, they act like they're giving them therapy.

00:26:14.280 They're only collecting information.

00:26:15.640 They got the idea from the Vatican, you know, go back to the confessionals, you know, and how the mafia would go in there and tell all their sins and they'd blackmail them.

00:26:29.420 You know, I mean, it was they've been in the blackmail business forever, you know.

00:26:34.080 So they thought, well, we'll just keep using that method and get people to tell us their secrets and then, you know, keep them repressed.

00:26:43.120 So anytime people look outside themselves, they're being locked in to a victim mentality by design.

00:26:51.820 We need to remember who we are, why we're here, go within, access our simple, you know, resiliency and start reclaiming our free thought.

00:27:04.120 Get our brains firing again the way they're supposed to.

00:27:07.880 We have brilliant minds.

00:27:10.040 We need to take them back.

00:27:13.120 What a crime against humanity.

00:27:16.060 What a horrible crime against humanity.

00:27:19.200 All of this fake news, fake science, fake everything, fake spirituality, fake religion, fake everything just to keep children available for pedophiles.

00:27:34.260 Yeah.

00:27:34.540 And fake medical community.

00:27:36.400 Look at it.

00:27:36.900 You know, they they they they are trained and indoctrinated by big pharma who runs the schools, follow the money and they're training them to turn everything over to big pharma.

00:27:50.420 You know, so they're making money by treating, you know, so-called illnesses that they usually create with the vaccines.

00:28:00.360 They treat them, but they don't cure anything.

00:28:03.940 It's taking the resiliency of our physical healing away from the whole medical community.

00:28:11.720 So we got this.

00:28:14.100 It's a thing that I think it's a part of what Jeffrey Epstein did, because what he did on the island was, you know,

00:28:21.660 I think it that stuff dwarfs what he really did, which was to change all the laws in the world about money and invent a thing called vampire capitalism,

00:28:38.180 socialism, which pretty much means that the human beings are prey to the ones at the top of the financial pyramid.

00:28:49.460 And, yeah, they can make them sick and then they can take bets on how they die or how they can, quote unquote, treat their doctor caused illnesses and make more money that way.

00:29:01.400 The human beings are soylent green, basically, that movie, and he invented that his financial crimes are far worse.

00:29:12.280 Plus, he he wrote with the bankers, all of these laws that destroyed national sovereignty of every country, the banks.

00:29:21.720 He was their puppet.

00:29:25.860 And of course, all that goes to the people at the top, which are the kings.

00:29:31.400 The kings, the queens, the popes, the wizards, you know, the Nazis of the Fourth Reich.

00:29:41.520 That's what the New World Order is.

00:29:44.000 And am I wrong, Kathy?

00:29:46.580 Well, that's the, you know, takes us back to the original question, Jake, you know, about why I'm not upset about how long this is taking with the Epstein files,

00:29:56.800 because it's so much more involved than most people realize.

00:30:00.620 And there's so much more going on than than people realize to dismantle this whole global network that's been been going on for so long.

00:30:11.700 And that's just Epstein's part.

00:30:13.700 Yeah.

00:30:13.980 You know, you get to the the Clintons.

00:30:16.940 Let's say, you know, the and George Bush senior.

00:30:19.200 What he did was just massive.

00:30:21.640 There's there's so many others.

00:30:25.380 And he's just one, you know, and there's subpoena in the Clintons to testify.

00:30:30.220 What?

00:30:30.940 You know, Epstein would have testified against them.

00:30:33.480 It's just it.

00:30:34.900 This is I don't know what they expect to find and what's really going on.

00:30:40.480 But it I don't even follow it because to me, it's a charade to get to a much, much, much bigger outcome in unraveling this mess,

00:30:52.380 because this effort to unravel the new world order, the slave society agenda and restore free thought to humanity is has been going on for a long time.

00:31:04.700 It's it's been going on behind the scene.

00:31:07.480 Now we're seeing what they're doing a little bit, but a lot of it's smoke and mirror illusion because people wouldn't understand the reality of what they're actually doing, because it's so complicated.

00:31:23.020 They need to have the ABCs before they, you know, get to this postgraduate understanding.

00:31:28.640 Yeah, they really the media and all the even, you know, the Internet, they they hide they hide the real agents behind the mass murder of humanity.

00:31:42.800 They continue to do that.

00:31:46.600 And.

00:31:48.780 It's just a sickening.

00:31:50.240 We are in a fight for our lives, though.

00:31:52.300 We are, you know, it's in transformation of America, where George Bush at Bohemian Grove said that if they lost control over the minds of the population, they'd reduce our numbers to a more manageable size.

00:32:05.740 So and then you look back all the way back to Gerald Ford when he was president and he had Henry Kissinger and George Bush and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, who gave us aspartame to dumb us down.

00:32:20.640 And, you know, Jack Villani, head of the Motion Picture Association of America, controlling our information and all of them in his cabinet.

00:32:28.460 You can look all the way back on on the Ford administration with Henry Kissinger.

00:32:36.260 They came up with the first depopulation agenda back then because they were concerned that they weren't managing the minds of the people well enough.

00:32:47.020 That's when Jack Villani gave us the term conspiracy theory for anyone questioning the media narrative.

00:32:54.900 Wow.

00:32:55.460 Yeah, anyone who who sees the truth is the conspiracy theorist.

00:33:01.180 Boy, that's a great reversal.

00:33:02.800 They're just great at reversal.

00:33:05.040 I mean, they're great at it.

00:33:07.540 Our old friend, Julia, coined the phrase perverse reverse.

00:33:14.260 Yeah, well, it's like, you know, with the term conspiracy theorist, they say that about me, you know, and it won't come out of Wikipedia for anything.

00:33:23.540 But the fact is, you know, Transformation of America, my 1995 testimony was censored under national security because every bit of it had been validated.

00:33:34.960 You know, so how how can that how can I be a conspiracy theorist if they invoke national security?

00:33:42.320 Do they invoke national security on conspiracy theories?

00:33:45.940 Very good point.

00:33:46.680 And a theory?

00:33:47.440 I mean, come on.

00:33:48.660 If that's the case, then there's good excuse right there to revamp this so-called national security act.

00:33:54.580 Wow.

00:33:55.020 Yeah, it's actually everything's actually the opposite of what they say because they reverse the truth.

00:34:00.860 So it's like the national insecurity act is what it is.

00:34:05.840 Yeah.

00:34:06.220 Yeah.

00:34:06.620 Whenever they get scared.

00:34:08.960 Yeah.

00:34:09.660 Yeah.

00:34:10.200 And the Patriot Act is the globalist anti-sovereignty of America Act.

00:34:17.320 Yeah, for sure.

00:34:18.820 Yeah.

00:34:19.000 Whatever they call it.

00:34:20.080 We always say this.

00:34:20.860 Whatever the whatever they're doing is called.

00:34:23.280 It's the opposite.

00:34:24.380 Mom always says that.

00:34:25.200 And it comes in the ultimate is the bankers.

00:34:29.460 All the banks are called trust and fidelity, fidelity and.

00:34:36.640 Yeah.

00:34:37.260 Yeah.

00:34:37.900 While they're stealing the blind and investment make bubbles that then burst and buy up everything

00:34:44.500 they stole from you.

00:34:45.780 Dirt crisis.

00:34:47.140 Can I ask a question to Kathy?

00:34:48.740 Do you mind?

00:34:51.740 Satanic ritual abuse.

00:34:53.340 There's trauma based mind control.

00:34:55.240 What you're talking about with pedophilia is a mechanism of control.

00:35:00.100 Is it satanic from the satanic religion that they taught this to the Nazis that it works

00:35:06.160 or is it the other way around or are they just all kind of smart and go, hey, if you traumatize

00:35:10.980 a child, you can basically get what you want.

00:35:12.760 It's weird that I guess what I'm saying is that there's parallels with satanism and the

00:35:17.340 world government, unless it's the same thing.

00:35:19.880 Absolutely.

00:35:20.360 Absolutely, because it's the scientific formula for mind control with trauma is the basis of

00:35:26.340 it, you know, and when you consider that the Hitler Himmler research found there's no

00:35:33.380 trauma more horrific than sexual abuse of a child prior to age five, while the brain

00:35:38.380 is still forming.

00:35:39.120 They also found that right there next to it is satanic ritual abuse because it's blood

00:35:45.220 trauma.

00:35:46.100 It's torture.

00:35:47.860 It's it's horrific to see someone being murdered right in front of you, especially a child,

00:35:54.340 you know.

00:35:54.600 So you've got extreme trauma that's associated with that.

00:35:59.100 And people like my primary MKUltra mind control programmer, Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino,

00:36:06.140 who is part of the occult temple is set on military bases for mind control purposes.

00:36:11.120 Yeah, they got in there by saying freedom of religion includes includes satanism.

00:36:16.520 Yeah, and he didn't even believe in satanic power per se.

00:36:21.360 He believed in his own power using trauma and a stun gun.

00:36:25.900 You know, so they it's a it's compound usury situation of the effects of trauma.

00:36:34.020 You know, you go back to the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades.

00:36:37.620 They was they were murdering people left and right who didn't comply with the the Vatican

00:36:43.280 back then.

00:36:44.600 So all the way back then and the spoils of the war with the children and those children,

00:36:50.780 the Catholic orphanages were born and the children were being raised in there to perpetuate

00:36:55.600 the church, to perpetuate, to become the priests of the future and subjecting them to more

00:37:02.620 trauma, made a more compliance.

00:37:04.180 So they use the satanism.

00:37:06.660 And so you get this this reversal, the, you know, perverse reverse again, the reversal

00:37:14.160 of the Catholic mass into the satanism.

00:37:17.240 And it it causes the the brain to compartmentalize that much more.

00:37:24.120 So that's why they've been using it for a long, long time.

00:37:28.620 They do it to Catholic children.

00:37:30.720 They they do it to Catholic children.

00:37:32.740 And incredibly, incredible numbers.

00:37:36.080 Yeah.

00:37:37.100 Yeah.

00:37:38.020 Really, all religions have have been infiltrated.

00:37:41.720 And satanic abuse spans so many different versions of it.

00:37:47.420 You know, even even all the way down to the Haitian voodoo.

00:37:50.860 And yeah, every religion, every religion is infiltrated, infiltrated and corrupted because

00:37:59.460 of child sexual abuse.

00:38:01.340 That and then the and then the job of the community is to protect the pedophiles, not

00:38:06.200 the children.

00:38:06.920 Right.

00:38:07.060 And it's everywhere in every religion.

00:38:11.280 It is.

00:38:12.120 It is.

00:38:12.700 And that's making it difficult because the churches have been infiltrated and the people

00:38:20.000 indoctrinated to to, you know, give give power away to evil.

00:38:28.540 And, you know, like it's it's the ultimate control mechanism.

00:38:33.260 It's not.

00:38:34.260 We have been blessed.

00:38:36.780 And it's satanic.

00:38:38.240 It's I'm going to say this, too.

00:38:40.620 The satanic part of it is that they tell them that's God.

00:38:45.940 Oh, they tell them God.

00:38:48.860 They tell the children that Satan is as powerful as God, which he ain't.

00:38:54.540 Evil is not as powerful as good.

00:38:56.480 And it's not.

00:38:58.140 It's an illusion.

00:38:59.120 It's all an illusion.

00:39:00.580 People always choose good.

00:39:02.540 I mean, if they're right in the head and the heart, they have to be forced to choose

00:39:08.120 evil.

00:39:08.740 That's the truth.

00:39:10.760 That's the mind control that that is that is when mind control is used because people

00:39:17.240 when they're who they intended to be, who they know who they are and why they're here

00:39:22.740 and have that strength of spirit, then that is these perpetrators greatest fear, you know,

00:39:30.560 haven't been around them deep in the swamp.

00:39:33.360 That's what they fear the most is the strength of the human spirit and the infinite power of

00:39:37.380 love.

00:39:37.580 It's the highest vibration is the strongest force.

00:39:41.700 It's our victory.

00:39:43.360 It's our natural victory.

00:39:45.280 And they're afraid we're going to remember that we have all the power and they only have

00:39:51.080 as much power as we give them or let them steal.

00:39:53.480 In that regard, the mind control agenda is a spiritual warfare because the mind control

00:40:00.340 is used to keep us from tapping into that strength, to remembering our power.

00:40:05.760 It's used to separate us from that.

00:40:09.760 They can't possess it.

00:40:11.660 They can't stop it.

00:40:13.000 That'd be like dark creeping in on light.

00:40:15.260 They can't reach it.

00:40:16.840 It's too high of a vibration.

00:40:19.020 Dark is incapable of destroying light.

00:40:22.560 You go in a room, it's dark, you turn the light on, all the dark is gone.

00:40:26.860 You don't go in a light room and turn the dark on.

00:40:30.480 Right.

00:40:31.000 I guess you do.

00:40:32.000 You turn the light off.

00:40:32.860 Turn the light off.

00:40:34.620 Trauma-based mind control.

00:40:35.920 That's what she's saying.

00:40:36.920 That turns your light off.

00:40:38.760 That's what it does.

00:40:39.640 But it's internal and we have light or we wouldn't be alive.

00:40:44.020 Right.

00:40:45.220 Yeah, that's right.

00:40:47.080 Well, it's our birthright.

00:40:48.420 You know, it goes right back to birthright knowledge.

00:40:50.340 And remembering who we are and why we're here.

00:40:53.760 Stop.

00:40:54.320 Why are we here, Kathy?

00:40:57.300 Why are we here?

00:40:59.000 Why are we here?

00:41:01.040 Oh, to live the love we are, to unite, to shine the light and expose what's going on in the darkness.

00:41:08.020 To stop this evil from creeping in on humanity ever again.

00:41:13.500 They have no business meddling with our brilliant minds and lives.

00:41:17.140 But they've been doing it a long, long time because we haven't looked within to remember.

00:41:25.180 We've only looked outside ourselves to, you know, the big government, big pharma, the self-appointed, self-anointed global leaders, the big tech, big cult-to-cult religion, you know, telling us how to live our lives.

00:41:42.620 Because we go within, we have it all.

00:41:46.660 We remember.

00:41:47.940 And that is ultimately, I think, a major purpose of life is to be able to live the love we are.

00:41:58.360 To be able to reclaim that alignment.

00:42:03.500 To align with the divine within.

00:42:04.980 Not without, not outside us.

00:42:07.800 To align with the divine within.

00:42:10.060 Yeah, because we are divine creations.

00:42:13.180 We are.

00:42:14.000 We are a divine being.

00:42:16.380 And they don't want us to know that in any way.

00:42:19.020 I wanted to ask you, because you know so much about what was done to kids.

00:42:23.320 I wanted to ask you about another one of your handlers or whatever you call it, was Robert S. Bird, right?

00:42:31.320 And he brought that education into the schools of how to teach kids what to think and not how to think, right?

00:42:40.660 Yeah, Bird was in office for over 50 years.

00:42:43.460 You know, we need to get some term limits in Congress.

00:42:46.680 That's ridiculous.

00:42:47.740 They're not going to vote it in for themselves.

00:42:49.760 You know, people are going to have to wise up and demand it.

00:42:52.820 But he was in for over 50 years in the highest positions of power and influence, holding our country's purse strings, deciding where money was going to be spent.

00:43:02.680 And he made sure all of it went towards globalism.

00:43:05.120 While he spoke about the Constitution, for people to hear, he was eroding the Constitution with where the money was being spent.

00:43:14.240 And he made the states reliant on federal funding and the education system.

00:43:21.120 We don't need the federal government reigning over education.

00:43:25.800 We need to get it back to the states.

00:43:28.300 We need to get it back to local levels and get parents involved again.

00:43:32.420 Not have government dictate what's going to be taught in the schools.

00:43:36.800 He set it up that way so that they could have their, because there's not that many of them.

00:43:41.720 They wanted those puppet masters to be able to start manipulating everyone else.

00:43:46.500 And they started indoctrinating the children in the school system, teaching them what to think instead of how to think.

00:43:55.240 But that was no accident because he was also a Ku Klux Klan-er.

00:44:00.680 Right.

00:44:00.820 And so don't you think that a lot of, a lot of those government things that he set up for, you know, federally controlled education were based on a hatred of the black race?

00:44:13.540 Hey guys, it's Jake here.

00:44:14.840 As you know, I'm an old middle-aged man who's graying and bald.

00:44:18.920 And I have two daughters and a wife and I need to take care of them.

00:44:23.240 So life insurance is something that I look into all of the time.

00:44:26.760 But as I was investigating and talking to my brother-in-law, Josh, who many of you know from RepublicLifeNow.com and the annuities program that we sold, the guy's a genius.

00:44:35.400 He told me about a new product that is part of the life insurance, you know, parachute, if you will.

00:44:40.360 But it's called Living Benefits.

00:44:42.140 And it's going to change the game.

00:44:43.500 And I wanted to tell you about it because you guys got to get into it right now.

00:44:45.780 And essentially what it is, is it's a life insurance policy.

00:44:48.420 You pay it, the whole thing.

00:44:49.920 And then if something, God forbid, happens and you, while you're alive, need that money, you don't have to wait until you're dead for it to go to your family when it could have helped save your life.

00:44:59.880 With Living Benefits, you can access your own life insurance policy payout or whatever you want to call it while you're alive.

00:45:07.020 Let's say you get a catastrophic illness or get caught on fire or something horrible happens.

00:45:10.720 You can pull from your own life insurance policy and save your own life.

00:45:14.720 Go to republiclifenow.com, check it out.

00:45:17.460 Make sure you ask for the Living Benefits life insurance because it's a separate part of life insurance.

00:45:22.260 I don't want to get too technical.

00:45:23.580 But just think about it.

00:45:25.480 You could actually potentially save your own life with your own life insurance policy.

00:45:30.980 It's a game changer and I highly recommend you do it.

00:45:34.620 It was just based on hatred all around.

00:45:37.140 You know, he was my owner in MKUltra and he dictated all my actions.

00:45:43.600 He became my owner when I was 13 years old and I met him at the Epstein Island of its time, you know, Mackinac Island, Michigan.

00:45:52.140 He's the one who had an office in the FBI building in the mid-80s to set up the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children as a catch net operation for trafficked children so that they could scoop them up and put them into the corrupted child protective services.

00:46:11.400 And then be trafficked to Washington, D.C.?

00:46:15.840 Absolutely.

00:46:16.720 And around the world.

00:46:19.140 And however else they're going to harvest them and use them.

00:46:22.820 Like we said, it's always the opposite.

00:46:24.820 So the Center for Exploited Children, of course, that's how you know they're using it to exploit children.

00:46:30.040 Yeah.

00:46:31.840 Yes, there's so many people.

00:46:33.580 Their names, the shit they name stuff just gives them away, doesn't it?

00:46:38.400 They think we're that stupid.

00:46:39.860 They think we're that brainwashed.

00:46:41.560 When we start to learn to listen, when we gain eyes to see, ears to hear, and soul to know truth again, we'll start seeing through this illusion.

00:46:50.920 There's so many children now that have been medically kidnapped or taken in illegal, immoral ways through a corrupted justice system under the guise of national security and thrust into it.

00:47:04.820 Everybody's experiencing, everybody knows someone who's had a child taken into that custody.

00:47:10.960 My own daughter was taken into the corrupt system that I saw a bird setting up.

00:47:17.680 And it was an absolute outrage.

00:47:20.340 And ultimately, that's what compelled me to start speaking out to begin with, was to draw attention to her plight.

00:47:26.780 It wasn't, it wasn't hatred.

00:47:30.260 Hatred's low vibration.

00:47:31.680 That's their vibration.

00:47:32.780 They're not going to get hatred and fear from me.

00:47:35.580 I'm going to live the love I am.

00:47:37.160 That's out of their reach, you know.

00:47:38.520 So, and love for Kelly was what compelled me to speak out.

00:47:41.740 And what keeps me speaking out today is love for her, love for humanity, love for the children.

00:47:47.280 I'm going to keep speaking out until people are able to wrap their minds around the reality that we share this planet with some real dark, negative force perpetrators.

00:47:59.160 You know, we need to face that reality and realize they only have as much power as we give them or let them steal.

00:48:05.620 And they also, just like in the old vampire myths, which I think are real, I think they were written by people who knew that there were blood drinkers.

00:48:22.000 And they tried to warn us through those stories.

00:48:25.520 But there's just too many people who know now.

00:48:31.640 There's too many people who lived through it.

00:48:33.460 There's too many people who survived it.

00:48:36.500 And it can't, it just can't be hidden anymore.

00:48:41.140 It's not being hidden like they wanted.

00:48:46.420 You know, it's been exposed.

00:48:49.580 Now it's just a matter of unraveling this mess.

00:48:53.060 And it's going to take a lot to do it, you know, which brings us right back around to, you know,

00:48:59.020 what this administration is doing within a corrupt government, even, you know, with, with so much opposition right there in DC.

00:49:09.580 And they're still working diligently to unravel this mess while waking up the people to do their part.

00:49:17.180 You know, it's a lot.

00:49:20.160 Yeah.

00:49:20.580 I also wanted you to talk for a minute.

00:49:23.580 It's a shocking and stunning thing, but I want you to say it that, because this shows how our government works or worked before Trump.

00:49:33.360 Because we both love Trump, right?

00:49:35.420 We love him.

00:49:36.260 Well, look at all the awareness he's, he's raised.

00:49:42.760 Awareness is the first step towards positive, necessary change.

00:49:46.880 You know, it doesn't mean I agree with every political thing that he does, but this is bigger than politics.

00:49:53.760 And what he did is bigger than politics, waking people up.

00:49:58.800 That's, that's, that's phenomenal.

00:50:01.320 Anybody who lives their life's purpose so, so beautifully to make that much difference in the world, you know, should be honored for that.

00:50:10.440 The media couldn't, the, the, these perpetrators couldn't stop him.

00:50:15.580 They couldn't blackmail him.

00:50:17.060 They couldn't buy him out.

00:50:18.460 He had his own money.

00:50:19.360 They couldn't threaten him.

00:50:20.320 He had his own security.

00:50:21.480 They couldn't do anything to, to stop him.

00:50:24.840 And he's been outraged since the mid eighties that I know of, um, with the child sex trafficking and MK ultra and everything else.

00:50:32.720 And they couldn't stop him.

00:50:34.680 So the best they could do is media assassination.

00:50:38.960 Try to take them down by making people think that he's, you know, one of them, you know, why do you expose them if he's one of them?

00:50:49.500 It doesn't make any sense.

00:50:50.660 But the media has manipulated the population to, uh, such a degree in so many ways that this is just one more thing that they did was do a character assassination.

00:51:01.300 They attempted to do that with you too.

00:51:03.680 And just like Trump, you bounce back.

00:51:05.900 You're not going to take that.

00:51:07.160 And the people didn't believe it anyway.

00:51:09.200 And no matter how many times the media repeated it and repetitions, the most basic form of mind control, no matter how many times the people, the media repeated it, the people knew better.

00:51:20.180 They still know better.

00:51:22.100 Now we need to know what can we do.

00:51:24.800 And, um, I want to know, I want to know what you, I want to hear what you say about the fact.

00:51:31.480 And it's in Transformation of America, your testimony before Congress, I can see why they said it's against national security.

00:51:39.740 Because basically, uh, one of the pedophiles who assaulted you as a child became the unelected president of the United States.

00:51:52.480 Can you talk about that?

00:51:55.500 About Ford?

00:51:56.380 Yeah.

00:51:56.980 Um, my father was, uh, since I was born into a multi-generational family, um, my father, uh,

00:52:05.920 A multi-generational incest family.

00:52:09.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:10.020 Incest.

00:52:10.740 And, um, my father was also ritually abused and was, was passing that part down.

00:52:16.260 My mother was, um, was sexually abused and trafficked to my grandfather's blue Masonic Lodge.

00:52:24.240 These secret societies is where keep secrets on mind control are kept.

00:52:29.300 These places where these perpetrators meet in secret, you know, is where they keep perpetuating it.

00:52:36.620 And secrecy is our problem.

00:52:38.540 We need truth out there.

00:52:40.020 We need the knowledge that's our defense against mind control.

00:52:43.460 We need truth that makes us free.

00:52:45.360 But, um, MKUltra was already in full swing by the time, um, I was born into that mess in 1957 in Muskegon, Michigan.

00:52:56.280 By 1960, I was being trafficked to my grandfather's blue Masonic Lodge.

00:53:01.560 Just a little itty bitty toddler, um, was trafficked to a local politician of the time, Gerald Ford.

00:53:08.940 Of course, Gerald Ford went on to become the unelected president of the United States.

00:53:13.940 As his political career escalated, so too did my victimization in MKUltra mind control and his political career escalated to the, uh, office of president because he, um, covered up the Kennedy assassination as head of the Warren commission.

00:53:32.420 And, um, um, um, because that's when this globalist agenda took a stronghold on our country.

00:53:40.240 When, um, Kennedy opposed them and opposed this agenda, um, they eliminated him and assassinated him and took him out.

00:53:51.880 And then they took control of our country.

00:53:55.400 Then they also put in the electronic voting machines in the wake of the Kennedy assassination so that they could, they, that's what it was about.

00:54:03.980 Yeah, they were rigged since their inception to put, um, these perpetrators in positions of power, um, through the rigged elections and that's how they gained control.

00:54:17.120 That's what they did right up until 2016 when, um, so many of us were awake and aware we overrode the rigged electronic algorithm, you know?

00:54:27.040 So that was 2016, look at us now, we got this, we got the victory.

00:54:31.720 We just need to, um, understand the details now going forward, you know, and, and what we can do to, um, effectively take back our freedom and preserve the sanctity of free thought going forward, protect our children.

00:54:49.100 Well, tell us a little bit about the, uh, organizations that you're involved with that do this good work, Kathy.

00:54:58.340 Um, a lot of them are just groups of people in various places around the country, like the, uh, Rev 17 in Yuba City, California.

00:55:08.400 They're, um, taking action.

00:55:10.800 It's a, um, church-based organization that isn't about, um, just preaching and talking.

00:55:17.440 And they're about action.

00:55:18.320 They heard about the children that were being rescued and realized they didn't have a safe place for the children.

00:55:26.120 And, um, so they wanted to open up a safe house.

00:55:30.120 So the children wouldn't be thrust back into the child protective services and just, you know, recycled into the system.

00:55:37.180 So, um, the people got together and, um, raised millions of dollars, um, for the, for the,

00:55:47.440 the opening of the safe house, the construction of it and the education of the people working it to, um, effectively help children.

00:55:57.980 That's, that's where I came in and where I still come in.

00:56:02.000 Um, and there's so many of these that are opening up everywhere.

00:56:05.360 Um, I'm also very pleased to, I'm going to be speaking in, um, in Minneapolis with ARC, the Association for Rescuing Children that works under the, um, America's Future Project.

00:56:21.700 Um, and I'm so excited about that because that gives a strong national, um, outreach on low, from local levels.

00:56:30.720 You know, they say the local action has national impact.

00:56:35.300 Well, that national impact has global impact.

00:56:38.340 And that's where, um, we're speaking and, and arming people with information.

00:56:43.100 So, um, the, whether it's, um, an, an organization of, of concerned citizens, if it's patriots, if it's whoever it is, if it's, uh, an organization as, um, as honorable as, uh, and well-rooted as America's Future, um, we don't have any obstacles in our way now.

00:57:04.800 We can take the action.

00:57:06.940 We can help each other.

00:57:08.640 And you're not taking government money, right?

00:57:11.960 Right, right.

00:57:12.620 No government money.

00:57:13.820 This is people helping people.

00:57:16.320 Instead of people giving their money away to foundations like the Clinton Foundation, they're, they're doing it locally where they can see where it's going, where they can see what's actually being done.

00:57:28.560 And they're, because you're building, you're building the safe house in your community.

00:57:33.900 Yes.

00:57:34.300 With your community's, uh, ascent and, uh, sponsorship.

00:57:39.320 You have to protect those too, because they're going to be infiltrated if they start working.

00:57:42.620 So we have to be very vigilant if this is the way to go.

00:57:46.860 But we have Dr. Lois Lee, who, she's laid the archetype for how to do it without government interference and have an 85% success rate to rescue child prostitutes.

00:57:57.360 Mm-hmm.

00:57:58.300 Yeah.

00:57:59.060 And that's it.

00:58:00.160 It's just thinking outside of the box that bird and all them pedos created for us.

00:58:06.720 Right.

00:58:07.600 And to realize that there's not justice through the justice system.

00:58:13.380 So, you know, we've got to be mindful of that and, um, and be wise in how we operate.

00:58:20.080 That goes right back to what Mark always said from the get-go.

00:58:23.400 Wisdom out-thanks their criminal mind every time.

00:58:26.600 Mm-hmm.

00:58:26.980 Because when we have soul, we have discernment of truth.

00:58:30.300 When we have compassion for each other, when we have the height and depth of the strength of spirit, we have the wisdom to out-think their flat, linear thinking.

00:58:39.860 That's why I'm not afraid of artificial intelligence.

00:58:42.580 I'm not afraid of these criminal minds.

00:58:44.860 We got this.

00:58:45.780 We just got to remember.

00:58:47.140 We got this.

00:58:48.820 Yeah.

00:58:49.240 I think so, too.

00:58:50.700 It is waking up.

00:58:51.860 But, you know, I call it, I was calling it the great awakening and the great unraveling.

00:58:56.740 And now I'm calling it the great apostasy.

00:58:59.260 Mm-hmm.

00:58:59.480 Because that's our hope is the great apostasy from bullshit.

00:59:03.100 And coming into light and actual intelligence and human survival of the human species.

00:59:13.160 It is.

00:59:14.400 It is.

00:59:15.520 We're fighting for our survival.

00:59:17.780 We're fighting for our rights.

00:59:19.100 We're fighting for our birthright.

00:59:20.940 And we're winning because they really can't reach us when what we do is out of love instead of out of fear.

00:59:31.380 It's vibrational.

00:59:33.020 It makes all the difference in the world.

00:59:35.380 It's kind of like when we're fearful, we can't think of a way out.

00:59:39.200 But when we get clarity of thought when we're happy, you know, that's when we get the ideas and we get the, because our brains are firing, you know.

00:59:49.280 So that's our victory.

00:59:50.300 That is.

00:59:51.720 Blake, are you ritually abusing my granddaughter there?

00:59:55.120 Oh, can you hear?

00:59:55.980 I wish.

00:59:56.640 I'm about to.

00:59:57.440 She doesn't be quiet.

00:59:59.440 Maybe that's a problem.

01:00:00.820 Maybe I don't.

01:00:02.760 Be sure enough.

01:00:03.740 I didn't know you could hear that.

01:00:04.760 No, Hannah's in there.

01:00:06.680 She's, she's Vilda.

01:00:09.020 That's all I'm going to say.

01:00:09.640 My second born is special.

01:00:12.260 She's a wild one, Kathy.

01:00:13.660 You got to see this one.

01:00:14.820 You won't believe it.

01:00:15.380 I can't wait to meet her.

01:00:16.680 I tell you what.

01:00:17.480 She's Roseanne Jr. in every way.

01:00:19.940 She's a whirlwind, tearing shit up and jumping off shit and causing all kinds of trouble for everybody.

01:00:27.120 And then she.

01:00:28.280 You're a granddaughter.

01:00:29.320 No, she's Roseanne Jr. and her mother is a lot like my mother.

01:00:38.220 So she's got, she's third generation crazy Scorpio.

01:00:42.220 I got to say one more thing.

01:00:45.320 She just wanted to be part of this.

01:00:47.420 She does.

01:00:47.980 I'm sorry.

01:00:48.400 You could hear your book.

01:00:50.120 So I know this is a short podcast, but you are talking about.

01:00:54.100 Yes, three books.

01:00:54.780 Yeah.

01:00:55.280 Yes, three books.

01:00:56.060 These methods you're talking about work because you're absolutely correct, like love and self-healing and all stuff.

01:01:03.440 These methods you're teaching.

01:01:04.920 Where can people find more information on this?

01:01:06.640 Because this is how we're going to win this war.

01:01:08.280 There's no other way around it.

01:01:10.020 She's got it.

01:01:10.900 She's got it all.

01:01:11.920 Thanks to Mark.

01:01:13.140 Yeah.

01:01:13.600 And.

01:01:14.080 Yeah.

01:01:14.420 Yeah.

01:01:14.940 Yeah.

01:01:15.460 Mark Phillips.

01:01:16.200 He said that he just wanted to live long enough to see Trump.

01:01:20.600 What do you call it?

01:01:21.940 Where he's sworn in?

01:01:24.040 Inaugurated.

01:01:25.480 Yeah.

01:01:26.680 That.

01:01:27.080 And when he saw that so many people were awake and aware, they overrode the rigged algorithm to elect him.

01:01:34.920 That was what made a huge difference.

01:01:37.400 He said, OK, we passed critical mass.

01:01:39.380 It's a turning point.

01:01:40.480 You know, we got this going forward because, again, you know, going back around to where we started with this, it's going to take each and every one of us.

01:01:50.680 The numbers.

01:01:51.840 It's the people that are going to make the difference.

01:01:54.440 We had to change a government.

01:01:55.760 It wouldn't have mattered.

01:01:57.080 If without the people waking up to realize what's been going on, they're never.

01:02:03.100 It would just create a vacuum that would be filled with more of the same corruption if the people didn't wake up to realize what's going on.

01:02:11.080 That's where the true change is.

01:02:12.620 That's where it really happens.

01:02:14.420 And Mark knew that.

01:02:16.080 That's why he was dedicated his whole career to preserving the sanctity of free thought so that we could all have our free will, soul expression.

01:02:25.720 Our strength of spirit to live our life the way it was intended.

01:02:29.980 What a noble what a noble purpose he lived.

01:02:33.740 And then to release the information by empowering how lucky am I.

01:02:39.520 My daughter and me to heal with that information, we were able to release it.

01:02:45.440 So it's posted on my website at trans-formation.com.

01:02:50.900 It's PTSD, time to heal.

01:02:53.040 It has a pay what you can, if you can option so everyone can have it now regardless of income.

01:02:58.600 You can zero out cost and there's no money trail to you.

01:03:02.220 And you can also overpay if you have the means.

01:03:05.680 That's sweet.

01:03:07.940 And, you know, there's so many people who can't, who are in a situation where they don't need money trail going to their healing method.

01:03:18.080 And then they know how to do it themselves within.

01:03:21.980 They can write out their memory.

01:03:23.480 They don't have to tell anybody they're doing it.

01:03:25.840 They can start healing, identify all abusers.

01:03:29.080 Because what Mark taught you and what he taught you was the way they deprogram P.O.W.s from being brainwashed, right?

01:03:41.220 And the biggest tool is to write with a paper and pencil, right?

01:03:48.220 Exactly.

01:03:49.180 The very act of moving a pen activates the logic critical analysis part of the brain.

01:03:54.240 So it takes fear, trauma, anything emotionally incomprehensible, shifts it over to logic, where it's written out on paper, consciously seen.

01:04:05.100 And you got a brain process here of analyzing information that's crucial to healing.

01:04:12.380 It opens neuron pathways in the brain.

01:04:15.080 Then you have healing psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally, spiritually, everything all at once.

01:04:22.660 It's because mind control shuts them down.

01:04:25.860 Then you heal physically.

01:04:27.720 Absolutely.

01:04:29.080 Absolutely.

01:04:30.000 When the neuron pathways are reopened, then we can learn to think again.

01:04:37.720 And so mind control shuts them down.

01:04:40.100 Indoctrination in the school system, they're shutting them down.

01:04:42.880 We need to open them back up.

01:04:44.420 Simple way to do it, get writing by hand back in the school system.

01:04:48.920 And that alone will stop the indoctrination of children.

01:04:51.900 That's a simple little method we all can use that was very deliberately taken out.

01:04:59.620 Computers were put in.

01:05:00.880 Keyboards do not do the same thing.

01:05:03.540 Twiddling thumbs on a cell phone does not do the same thing as picking up a pen and paper,

01:05:09.160 sitting in quiet, away from devices, away from noise, away from the frequencies they emit,

01:05:17.380 and sit there and get our brains working naturally the way that they're supposed to.

01:05:25.640 Wow.

01:05:27.400 It's so simple.

01:05:29.340 It is.

01:05:30.200 Of course, they would have compromised that for us.

01:05:33.200 But I like your workbook, PTSD, A Time to Heal, is a workbook also because you write out your experience in it.

01:05:41.920 And it's helped so many people.

01:05:43.820 One thing I like to do is buy a ton of books and give them out to people who need them.

01:05:48.920 And it's helped so many people.

01:05:50.840 So many people have told me how much your book, PTSD, A Time to Heal, has helped them,

01:05:57.560 including returning soldiers who got PTSD from having to fight in Iraq and all the places we sent them.

01:06:06.500 And it helps them, too.

01:06:08.100 It can help a lot of homeless vets, too.

01:06:11.220 It can help a whole lot of the survivors who are stuck in the victim mentality to realize they don't need anyone intruding on their minds.

01:06:20.360 That's adding to the problem that they can just go within and reclaim their birthright to live free, think free, reclaim their joy.

01:06:30.460 Anyway, get out in nature, you know, feel the sun on the skin, feel the wind in your hair, breathe it in.

01:06:40.160 You know, all these things make such a big difference.

01:06:43.100 And people have just forgotten that because we've been conditioned to the, you know, little looking outside ourselves into devices.

01:06:55.520 And, you know, we need to stop that and get back to what's natural.

01:07:00.920 And if you think about it, these devices, if you pay attention to how social media, especially nowadays,

01:07:05.380 it's being exacerbated with, like, the gods and war and all the stuff going around the world,

01:07:09.920 it is trauma-based mind control that you're in micro form all day long.

01:07:14.800 I left social media about three and a half weeks ago, finally.

01:07:17.600 I just, because I realized I get on there, I get traumatized, I start arguing, and it's pulling me out of my feeling.

01:07:23.920 I'm thinking, I think they figured out the bad guys that, hey, we don't just have to do satanic ritual pedophilic abuse.

01:07:29.700 We can just fuck with these people on their phones, in their bedrooms, and control their mind.

01:07:34.140 Yeah, that is what it is.

01:07:35.200 And they're dividing MAGA now.

01:07:38.180 Well, look at all the snap judgment modes on.

01:07:41.220 You know, nobody's thinking further, they're just snap judging.

01:07:44.080 And that was intended through these devices.

01:07:48.680 And Mark taught me, he said, from the beginning, voice no negatives without a solution.

01:07:54.860 Not only did that keep me from just complaining all the time, and he didn't have to listen to it,

01:07:59.600 but it actually forced my brain to think in new ways.

01:08:04.140 And opened more neuron pathways, because I needed to learn how to think.

01:08:08.940 We all do.

01:08:10.220 We need to reclaim that.

01:08:12.180 And so, what if social media had that rule, voice no negatives without a solution?

01:08:18.600 God.

01:08:19.000 Can you imagine how much humanity would change?

01:08:21.280 That's amazing.

01:08:22.100 With that one application.

01:08:23.880 Well, it would depend.

01:08:25.500 I have to say, it would depend on the solution.

01:08:28.060 Because a lot of the solutions that mass media puts out there are satanic, too.

01:08:33.620 Yeah, well, I think we can all think of the solutions.

01:08:39.560 I think we have to say, if it comes from a place of hate, then it's satanic.

01:08:44.460 And I think we have to say, I think we also have to say, if you are in a, because this is deep philosophy, but I think it's true.

01:08:52.980 If you're in a victim mode, you've fallen right into the lap of the satanic, because the victim mode, thinking like that you're a victim of anything or anyone, unless you truly are, I'm not talking about that.

01:09:07.920 But the victim mode narrative that goes on, on the internet and TV and all media, that absolves you from any responsibility for the actions you take.

01:09:20.140 Because you're like, I'm oppressed, so I can, blah, blah, I can hit, I can commit violence, I can hate, because I'm resisting.

01:09:29.420 But you're not.

01:09:30.180 You fell right into the victim mode, which is satanic thought, because you have to be free of that.

01:09:37.920 You have to be free of that, to actually create and live and be joyful human being that lives the love we are, like you say, Kathy.

01:09:47.820 Hallelujah.

01:09:48.940 Yeah, definitely.

01:09:50.960 Definitely that this victim mentality has got to stop, because when people don't know their own truth, and they stay in that victim mentality, when people don't know their own truth, they're hanging on to program.

01:10:05.260 And if they got program, they want to share it with everybody and force it on everybody.

01:10:11.360 That's where all the arguing comes in among survivors.

01:10:16.400 No, you have to look at it my way.

01:10:17.860 You have to buy into my perception, because they need validation from outside themselves for the lie that they're following.

01:10:25.860 You know, we need to get through that curve, and know our own truth, and that takes going within.

01:10:32.300 When we know our own truth, then we're strong in it.

01:10:35.280 We don't need anybody to validate that for us.

01:10:37.880 We don't have to push it on everyone.

01:10:39.920 That allows everyone to have their own path and heal from within.

01:10:43.620 And it stops this constant bickering that's going on, and this overwhelming push of ideas, I think, that we saw magnified with mind control masks as a virus.

01:10:57.760 You know, those who bought into the program, those who didn't, you know, mask up.

01:11:02.820 You got to wear your mask, you know, because that was their program.

01:11:05.840 And they wanted everybody to buy into that program, because they didn't know the truth.

01:11:10.900 Why did they want us masked, Kathy?

01:11:14.400 Because it depersonalizes.

01:11:17.460 It inhibits oxygen to the brain necessary for critical analysis-free thought.

01:11:23.700 And it muffles voices, especially from six feet away.

01:11:27.080 And the depersonalization it caused, as soon as the children developed identity disorders from it, then that was redefined by the school system as a gender problem.

01:11:44.420 That they didn't know their own gender.

01:11:49.040 And so they redefined it so they could push the transgender movement in, which is a pedophile agenda that is also a depopulation agenda rolled into one, because there's no human procreation with it.

01:12:02.680 But it's horrible what we did with the children just by masking them up and then putting them behind plexiglass, depersonalizing them until they don't even know who they are.

01:12:14.240 And then telling them it's gender confusion, and the next thing they know, they go from the masks and the plexiglass to stuff and dollars and tranny panties.

01:12:24.180 We've really messed up a generation.

01:12:26.740 We all better wake up, remember who we are and why we're here, reclaim our free thought, and start protecting our children going forward.

01:12:35.280 We got a generation to heal.

01:12:37.040 Amen.

01:12:37.540 Big time.

01:12:38.900 Amen.

01:12:39.240 Don't you think that the parents of these children that allowed that are under heavy, heavy-duty mind control?

01:12:48.300 They've been indoctrinated and conditioned for so long that they're only now waking up to realize it.

01:12:57.020 You know, like there's so many parents that are dealing with overwhelming grief.

01:13:03.340 They're seeing the results of what happened when they had their kids get the injection and mask them up.

01:13:10.480 They're having to deal with that reality.

01:13:13.400 Now they've got overwhelming grief.

01:13:15.360 You know, again, pick up that pen, write out your grief, write out your guilt, write out your trauma, write out your fear, write out what's immobilizing you.

01:13:25.360 Add a solution, add a solution, you know, and get your brain firing because we got to make sure that we evolve with the knowledge we just gained and never, never let this happen again.

01:13:39.500 Wow.

01:13:40.300 Well said.

01:13:41.220 What do you think about QAnon, Kathy?

01:13:43.680 I think that that was a way of being able to get a lot of people to open their eyes.

01:13:52.180 It's nothing that I had time to follow in any way, but I understand that the efforts to wake people up and get them to understand the magnitude of the problem that we're unraveling right now had to come at from a lot of different angles.

01:14:10.340 So instead of, you know, snap judging one thing or the other, we need to expand our thinking and look into find the truth in everything and start pulling that together.

01:14:25.420 Because like you were saying at the beginning, Roseanne, it's so perfect.

01:14:29.900 You know, everybody's got to bring their piece of the puzzle to the table so that the big picture comes into focus and we can all be effective, taking back our minds, our lives and our world.

01:14:40.340 So here's to that.

01:14:43.240 Here's to that.

01:14:46.400 Amazing.

01:14:47.540 I wanted to talk about like how we talk.

01:14:50.960 How long have we been on this, Jake?

01:14:53.040 How long have we been on this?

01:14:53.820 Hour 13.

01:14:56.280 Okay.

01:14:56.820 Well, I want to wrap it up with.

01:14:59.040 Yeah.

01:14:59.180 We can have her back anytime.

01:15:01.400 Yeah.

01:15:01.840 Yeah.

01:15:02.040 We want to come back a lot, but I just, we didn't even get into how me and you talk to each other,

01:15:08.140 which I think maybe next time you, you come on here, we'll, we'll do some of that because we don't, you know,

01:15:15.720 we're just sharing information today, but we're beyond all that for years.

01:15:19.600 And we're, we're into a whole other realm between me and you where we are, we are noticing and understanding what our brains in fact are capable of.

01:15:35.740 And we do all kinds of thought experiments together just to see how it works because it is miraculous, ain't it?

01:15:49.480 It really is.

01:15:51.900 You know, we, we have been taught that our, our brains, um, if we use 10% of our brain, what's the rest of it?

01:15:59.920 You know, I mean that we've got so much that we have access to our life's experience, I think, blasted us into primitive parts of our brain and intuitions and,

01:16:10.100 and, and, and other sense heightened senses and capabilities that, um, we all have access to when we remember those to use those parts of our brain,

01:16:21.260 you know, we have, uh, it's part of our defense mechanism.

01:16:24.960 It's even with survivors who are still in the, the victim mode, you know, and, and have the overactive adrenal systems and they're in fear all the time.

01:16:34.300 You know, if they just, Hey, tap into what your brains got active there and integrate that in and start using it, then you have added defenses.

01:16:45.140 And all of a sudden that alone calms the adrenal system to where the body can heal too.

01:16:51.920 So the, the mind over body aspect is something everyone needs to tap into the things you and I talk about are so deep and profound.

01:17:01.220 And I can't wait to be together in person.

01:17:04.220 Maybe, um, we can get into a deep discussion, um, on camera with that kind of stuff right now.

01:17:11.300 I'm working on a, uh, another book, um, align with the divine within that, um, reminds people to, you know, use those aspects of the brain that you and I are so aware of and know so much about.

01:17:25.300 So, you know, it's, yeah, cause it's not, it's not just mind over the physical body you're living in, but it's actually mind over matter too.

01:17:36.640 It is.

01:17:37.620 And there's so much synchronicity that like what you mentioned, you know, that people forget to align with.

01:17:43.280 There's so much possibility and, um, and capability that we all have.

01:17:48.100 We've been distracted for so long by these shallow, you know, headline news, snap judgments, social media and everything else.

01:17:56.060 We need, we need to get back to, um, appreciating the magnitude of what we've been blessed with all along.

01:18:02.220 And, um, I think you and I are real good at, at, at sharing that with each other, the exciting things that, um, that we have rediscovered about the amazing, amazing way that humanity has been made.

01:18:18.340 I like when we sit on your porch and like, we just, uh, start thinking about birds and then birds show up.

01:18:27.940 Um, yeah, the vibrational frequencies.

01:18:33.420 Yeah.

01:18:34.440 It's, it's, it's Cherokee sacred land and, and like whatever your vibrational frequency is draws particular animals to you right now.

01:18:44.340 I've got hummingbirds everywhere, which is a really great frequency, um, that, that animals come to deer when deer come up in your yard and just walk up to you.

01:18:54.440 It's because your vibration is proper.

01:18:56.920 It's right.

01:18:57.740 You're in a good space.

01:18:59.560 Um, and yeah, so we get to share that when we're together and, um, have that, that beautiful experience with nature.

01:19:07.540 It's a mind blower to say, oh, everything's connected.

01:19:11.280 Everything.

01:19:11.880 That's the big one that people need to see.

01:19:16.380 And they are so programmed to, uh, not see it, but it's, you know, not see it.

01:19:25.480 Wow.

01:19:26.360 It's right there.

01:19:27.540 It's right there.

01:19:28.440 If you get over that big hurdle where, you know, that system of non-thought tries to control what God gave you, what the universe, the good, the good in you.

01:19:41.060 Um, um, the divinity in you, boy, they don't like any of that.

01:19:45.400 They sure hate that.

01:19:46.560 And, uh, you know, but I, I don't know.

01:19:50.340 Well, it was my great pleasure to introduce you to president Trump.

01:19:54.600 And I want to end by you telling what, what that was like for you to meet him.

01:20:01.260 Well, it's a, it's a first president I ever, ever met that had, um, soul, you know, like, and, and genuine care and compassion for humanity.

01:20:12.220 And, um, in addition to extremely vast intelligence, it was, it was an amazing experience for me that was complete opposite of anything that my life had conditioned me to think of someone in his position.

01:20:28.040 And, um, it, it's not that it was so much a surprise because, um, I knew that these perpetrators feared him.

01:20:36.420 I knew that he was vastly different from them.

01:20:39.720 I knew that Mark was real excited about the, the prospects of what was to come.

01:20:46.420 So, um, it was just a validation of the beauty that life really does have to offer when we dare to open our eyes and see beyond what we think we know.

01:21:00.320 Oh, that is so great.

01:21:02.240 What a great way to end it.

01:21:03.900 I love you so much.

01:21:05.020 Oh, what your other book is, uh, there's transformation of America and, uh, what's the other one?

01:21:13.540 I can't remember.

01:21:14.140 PTSD, a time for healing.

01:21:16.420 And the other one, Kathy, access denied for reasons, the national security, that's the journey marks in my journey through the corrupted justice and mental health system to help my daughter, Kelly.

01:21:29.000 So it shows the corruption of child protective services of the roots of it, how they do it and what we did to kick down doors and make our way through it.

01:21:40.140 So, um, yeah, it's a, a, a timely book for right now.

01:21:44.980 It's like a roadmap into the corruption, into the system and, uh, what we can do about it.

01:21:52.720 Well, thank you for, uh, kickstarting this whole great awakening movement for the 40 some years you've been at it.

01:22:01.340 And for all of the, uh, and for all of the, uh, humiliation that you, has been heaped on you by these people who are on the wrong side of life, history, humanity.

01:22:12.860 But here you are, and you look better than ever, and I love you, and thanks for being on today.

01:22:18.460 Thank you.

01:22:19.280 Thanks for having me.

01:22:20.500 You're amazing.

01:22:21.160 I love you.

01:22:21.880 I love you, Kathy.

01:22:22.720 Thank you so much.

01:22:23.700 Thank you.

01:22:25.340 Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.

01:22:36.040 With this synthetic world, we're limited.

Declassifying Presidential Sex Slavery W⧸ Cathy O'Brien ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #113

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