The Roseanne Barr Podcast - Dr. Drew tells Roseanne she is dead inside ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #027

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00:00:30.000 Greetings, earthlings and humans

00:00:33.820 and members of the animal kingdom who might be listening.

00:00:38.400 Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.

00:00:41.260 I'm very excited today because I have somebody

00:00:45.000 who's very interesting and likes to talk a lot

00:00:47.660 and claims he's a doctor.

00:00:49.980 But I think he is a doctor and he's so interesting

00:00:53.140 and very nice.

00:00:54.540 Dr. Drew.

00:00:55.680 Hi, Dr. Drew.

00:00:56.600 I think I'm an earthling and a human.

00:00:58.620 I think I qualified for both.

00:01:00.720 Thank you.

00:01:01.220 Oh, you see, my patience is growing.

00:01:07.240 Good times.

00:01:07.420 You're welcome.

00:01:08.440 So I've been looking forward to this.

00:01:09.900 I thought this would be very interesting,

00:01:11.680 you and I talking.

00:01:12.460 Yeah.

00:01:12.860 You're going to take me to places

00:01:14.000 that probably make me uncomfortable

00:01:15.200 and probably teach me a thing or two, I suspect.

00:01:19.420 Well, you never know.

00:01:20.580 It could go the other way as well.

00:01:22.360 Well, I hope you learn something too.

00:01:23.560 Yeah, I would like to.

00:01:24.900 Yeah, but I don't think I'll make you uncomfortable.

00:01:26.940 I think that'd be too hard.

00:01:29.020 What?

00:01:29.660 I think it'd be hard to make you uncomfortable.

00:01:31.380 No, it's not hard at all.

00:01:33.300 Oh, is that true?

00:01:34.180 Just make eye contact.

00:01:35.100 See, already I'm learning something.

00:01:36.160 See?

00:01:36.400 Try and shake your hand real quick.

00:01:37.860 Just ask.

00:01:38.160 Oh, no, I don't touch people.

00:01:39.900 Oh, there you go.

00:01:40.360 You hug me.

00:01:41.060 You do a little hug hug.

00:01:41.960 Well, I don't mind the occasional hug

00:01:44.380 or I was going to tell a dirty joke,

00:01:46.460 but I don't know.

00:01:47.400 I usually say that just to my kids.

00:01:49.920 You know, I save my filthiest material

00:01:51.960 for my own children.

00:01:53.160 That's not good, is it, doctor?

00:01:55.420 It's, I don't like to put qualifying good

00:01:59.900 or bad terms on things like that.

00:02:01.660 It's just, could create problems.

00:02:04.560 Could create issues.

00:02:06.600 By the way, Jake introduced me to your dining room.

00:02:09.500 He just goes, here's where we had our Thanksgiving fight.

00:02:12.100 I was like, okay, okay.

00:02:14.180 Well, yeah, I'm never doing it again.

00:02:16.120 No more Thanksgiving.

00:02:16.820 No, I've not ever had one that I've enjoyed

00:02:19.240 in my entire life, and I'm 71 years old.

00:02:22.260 That makes me feel bad.

00:02:23.240 I'm sorry about that.

00:02:23.700 Well, we figured something out we're going to do.

00:02:25.640 We can still do Thanksgiving.

00:02:27.060 We're just not going to let any family come.

00:02:28.900 And we think that you can still have a turkey

00:02:31.820 and do everything.

00:02:32.460 You two can be together?

00:02:33.780 Yeah, well, I live next door, so we can FaceTime.

00:02:36.700 Yeah, or I can just go next door.

00:02:38.600 We were fine.

00:02:40.200 I just think I'm very, that makes me very happy

00:02:45.000 that you said that, son, because you love me

00:02:47.900 and I appreciate it.

00:02:49.440 My ideal holiday is probably different from yours, though.

00:02:54.480 So I want no human contact whatsoever on the holidays.

00:03:03.160 The holidays are my time for repair, Dr. Drew, 0.98

00:03:07.240 because they were always the worst fucking times of my life 0.99

00:03:12.560 because I had a family of drama. 0.99

00:03:15.780 Yes.

00:03:16.160 It was very ethnic drama, you know, being a Jew and all. 0.85

00:03:21.620 Well, Jew drama is sort of usually not heavy drama.

00:03:25.940 What?

00:03:26.700 What?

00:03:27.340 It's sort of like theatrical drama.

00:03:31.400 You know what I mean?

00:03:31.960 Typically, you guys had heavy drama, like traumatic drama.

00:03:35.680 Oh, yeah.

00:03:36.760 No. 0.53

00:03:37.540 Jew drama. 0.80

00:03:38.260 Huh?

00:03:38.660 Jew. 0.90

00:03:39.280 That's called Jew drama. 0.99

00:03:40.320 They're really heavy.

00:03:41.440 Yeah.

00:03:41.980 Dark drama.

00:03:43.080 The trauma drama.

00:03:44.380 Yeah.

00:03:44.660 Okay.

00:03:45.120 Yeah.

00:03:45.660 It's always traumatic and dramatic.

00:03:48.100 You had abuse, too, right?

00:03:49.640 You pointed that out to me a few times when we talked.

00:03:51.480 Well, I wanted to talk to you about that being,

00:03:55.540 the way the world is now, being 71.

00:03:58.120 Yes.

00:03:59.540 I used to feel, maybe 20 years ago,

00:04:02.040 that this country was going through a mental health crisis.

00:04:05.680 Yes.

00:04:06.160 Well, now it's 20 years later.

00:04:08.260 Yeah.

00:04:08.600 And it's off the charts. 0.98

00:04:10.920 The mental illness won. 1.00

00:04:12.780 Yeah.

00:04:13.040 And the rest of us lost.

00:04:15.200 Yes.

00:04:15.920 I completely agree.

00:04:17.060 You do?

00:04:17.680 Completely.

00:04:18.640 In fact, so my background is I worked in a psychiatric hospital for like 30 years.

00:04:25.060 And we used to actually help people all the time.

00:04:28.720 It was really quite exciting.

00:04:31.020 Treatment worked, and we could do things for people, and they got better.

00:04:34.640 Now, nothing's available.

00:04:37.340 There aren't any psychiatrists.

00:04:39.100 You're not allowed to help everyone.

00:04:40.820 They go sleep on the sidewalk.

00:04:43.080 That's the help now.

00:04:44.400 Yes.

00:04:44.720 Uh-huh.

00:04:45.000 And people go do all the drugs they want, whenever they want,

00:04:47.700 and they steal to support their habit.

00:04:49.800 And they're leading their best life.

00:04:51.100 Who are you to say?

00:04:52.200 Yeah.

00:04:52.620 Yeah.

00:04:52.960 So I've got the city of Los Angeles, the county of Los Angeles,

00:04:56.560 seven people a day dying on the streets.

00:04:59.180 Those are all my patients.

00:05:00.820 I know how to treat them.

00:05:01.720 I could easily do it.

00:05:02.860 Be not a problem.

00:05:03.880 If we could restore them to some kind of meaningful, engaged life,

00:05:06.840 you're not allowed to.

00:05:07.900 You're not allowed to.

00:05:09.280 That's just the extreme stuff.

00:05:10.480 That's just the homeless stuff.

00:05:12.420 Then on top of that, we have mass formation.

00:05:15.060 That's the rest of us are completely out of our minds with the mob action

00:05:18.840 and the hysteria that have been going on, whether it's Trump or COVID or whatever.

00:05:23.020 Some massive hysteria is always underway now.

00:05:26.020 It's endless hysteria.

00:05:26.720 It's endless.

00:05:27.540 And I, you know, I...

00:05:28.560 Endless trauma.

00:05:29.620 Well, so I'd be curious on your insight on this.

00:05:32.060 So to me, when I started working in a psychiatric hospital,

00:05:35.140 there was a lot of different kinds of personality disorders.

00:05:37.900 You see all kinds of things.

00:05:38.820 By the late 80s, everything shifted over to borderline.

00:05:42.900 And then in the 90s...

00:05:43.380 Yeah, I remember the borderline thing coming in.

00:05:46.020 Did you get a borderline label at the time?

00:05:47.240 No, my sister did.

00:05:48.580 Okay.

00:05:48.980 And then narcissism generally.

00:05:51.320 Just the narcissistic disorders were...

00:05:52.920 Yeah.

00:05:53.060 That's all we saw.

00:05:54.420 Yeah.

00:05:54.740 And I thought, well, that's a change.

00:05:56.320 And this is something that...

00:05:57.460 Something's happening.

00:05:58.500 Yeah.

00:05:58.940 And I started looking into...

00:06:00.100 I wrote a book on it.

00:06:01.400 And I thought, oh, this is...

00:06:02.740 The book is named?

00:06:03.700 It's named The Mirror Effect.

00:06:05.020 It's about celebrity narcissism.

00:06:06.860 We actually did some studies on it.

00:06:07.500 Oh, I love The Mirror Effect.

00:06:08.700 I love that name.

00:06:10.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:06:11.100 I took your test, too.

00:06:12.280 You took the test?

00:06:12.840 How'd you do?

00:06:13.320 Did you fail?

00:06:14.040 No, I'm not.

00:06:14.780 What was your score?

00:06:15.360 You're going to tell me?

00:06:15.740 I can't...

00:06:16.160 This was like seven years ago, but it was...

00:06:17.920 I was happy at the end of it.

00:06:19.300 Okay.

00:06:19.660 Like I was okay.

00:06:21.060 I'm a narcissist.

00:06:22.080 I had narcissist personality disorder.

00:06:25.000 That's just one of my problems.

00:06:26.600 I don't think it's a disorder.

00:06:28.200 Again, that's just one of your personalities that has that.

00:06:30.320 Oh, yeah.

00:06:31.180 That would be a little different.

00:06:31.980 Yeah, that's a little different.

00:06:32.880 You should take the test, though.

00:06:34.740 I'm not taking any tests.

00:06:35.920 It's just a narcissistic inventory.

00:06:37.680 It's a way of sort of...

00:06:38.340 It's just sort of narcissistic traits inventory.

00:06:40.560 I didn't have...

00:06:41.280 And in any event, the...

00:06:43.640 So it's clear to me that we've been through this massive shift,

00:06:46.420 and I think trauma was the underlying issue

00:06:48.720 that was creating a lot of it.

00:06:50.280 God knows, on Loveline, every night, just trauma, trauma.

00:06:52.360 Yeah.

00:06:52.540 That's all we heard about.

00:06:53.540 And certainly in the hospital, that's all I saw.

00:06:55.540 And I ran a drug unit for 20 years,

00:06:57.420 and we could handle the most seriously ill people.

00:07:00.600 And I always have said that if you had bad enough addiction,

00:07:03.280 you saw me, you had trauma.

00:07:04.920 For sure.

00:07:05.600 A hundred percent.

00:07:06.500 So are you like saying you were like the last line of defense they had?

00:07:11.360 I was...

00:07:11.760 Yes.

00:07:12.160 Oh, when everyone else was done, we got them.

00:07:13.920 Okay.

00:07:14.200 That's what happened.

00:07:15.040 But in any event, I started obsessing about, you know,

00:07:19.920 this cannot be the only moment in history where this has happened, right?

00:07:23.420 It's got to be other times and other places.

00:07:26.780 And I...

00:07:27.320 Or people have been this disconnected from reality?

00:07:29.900 This...

00:07:30.160 Well, that's what happens as a result of the trauma and the narcissism, I would say.

00:07:34.720 Right.

00:07:35.220 So the two things that stood out that when I was just doing my little surveys,

00:07:38.900 I've got a few other candidates from the historical record now too,

00:07:42.840 but at the time I was writing the book, I thought, well,

00:07:44.920 the only time I could find so much childhood sexual abuse and abandonment

00:07:48.100 and all this, pre-revolutionary France.

00:07:50.340 Okay.

00:07:50.500 The French were just brutal with how they dealt with kids back in 1770.

00:07:54.920 Mm-hmm.

00:07:55.460 And then I started to look...

00:07:57.120 Wasn't that the Dickens novel?

00:07:58.800 I mean, he was writing that in that time.

00:08:00.700 The British... 0.95

00:08:01.260 Oh, was he...

00:08:01.840 That's about France.

00:08:02.540 Yeah.

00:08:02.580 I think that was the French Revolution, yeah.

00:08:04.040 Yeah.

00:08:04.360 And yeah, that whole period was...

00:08:06.680 Right.

00:08:06.700 I've been obsessing...

00:08:07.600 The more we've gotten into our history...

00:08:08.840 That's interesting.

00:08:09.600 ...the more I'm obsessing about it.

00:08:10.980 Mm-hmm.

00:08:11.440 And then the other thing I saw, this is not as directly relatable,

00:08:14.720 but the Aztecs, I thought, oh, they had a book called The Codex,

00:08:19.000 which was how to traumatize your kids and turn them into warriors, essentially.

00:08:23.140 Oh, wow.

00:08:23.500 So it was adaptive for them.

00:08:25.040 Oh.

00:08:25.220 But once you have so severely traumatized kids, they become violent,

00:08:28.940 they will turn that violence on each other.

00:08:31.060 Oh, yeah.

00:08:31.400 Unless every day you create a mob that kills somebody up the top of those stairs 1.00

00:08:35.620 and we all together get together while we kill that guy 0.99

00:08:37.780 and throw his heart down the stairs, and now we've discharged our energy for the day, 1.00

00:08:41.980 we can all get along a little bit.

00:08:43.340 That's what we need to do.

00:08:44.620 Start doing that.

00:08:45.160 No.

00:08:45.500 Well, no, we're doing it.

00:08:46.520 We call it...

00:08:46.960 I was confused.

00:08:47.300 So because of that kind of scapegoating, I knew scapegoating.

00:08:50.520 I knew guillotines would come.

00:08:51.660 I knew it.

00:08:52.680 It's cancel culture.

00:08:53.620 That's our current guillotine mechanism.

00:08:56.180 Yeah.

00:08:56.360 The thing about guillotines is, though, everybody eventually goes up.

00:08:59.620 Right.

00:08:59.920 Yeah.

00:09:00.280 Right?

00:09:00.500 It's, you know, Rose Pierre ends up on the guillotine. 0.99

00:09:02.720 Everybody ends up on the guillotine eventually.

00:09:04.060 Right.

00:09:04.660 And we're in that sort of phase now, I think, where everybody's sort of getting...

00:09:08.480 I find that fascinating.

00:09:09.760 ...suck into this thing. 0.94

00:09:10.440 What about Salem? 0.99

00:09:12.340 Well, we should be reading Arthur Miller again.

00:09:14.340 That's why he wrote that book.

00:09:15.480 Yeah, that was during the Red Scare.

00:09:17.040 That was McCarthyism.

00:09:18.580 And I'm finally hearing people say, oh, this is like the Red Scare all over again.

00:09:23.460 It is.

00:09:23.720 Except this is much bigger, much more pervasive, much more embedded in our being in terms of

00:09:30.500 the mental health crisis that you're pointing out.

00:09:32.640 It's profound.

00:09:34.280 I think it's profound.

00:09:35.100 I think we probably had...

00:09:37.500 Maybe we agree, maybe we don't.

00:09:41.720 I think they did it on purpose.

00:09:44.500 You think it's just a coincidence.

00:09:46.800 I think it's a...

00:09:48.500 Well, who's they?

00:09:50.040 Maybe we should start with them.

00:09:50.660 The owners of the world.

00:09:51.620 And let me just also say that there are so many things that I would have patted you

00:09:56.600 on the back and, oh, Roseanne, whatever.

00:09:59.040 Now I'm like, okay, I'm listening.

00:10:01.400 It's like stuff I'd never entertained before.

00:10:03.880 Now I'm like, well, just show me the data.

00:10:06.400 I'm up for anything now.

00:10:07.360 Everyone should be like that.

00:10:08.640 Show me the data.

00:10:09.860 Show me the money.

00:10:09.980 This whole experience has been so bewildering to me, so freaking bewildering, that I'm like,

00:10:15.280 okay, I guess the world is not quite what I thought it was.

00:10:18.400 It isn't at all.

00:10:19.780 So they, I don't, I don't, I don't feel like people can organize in that kind of way.

00:10:27.260 I just, they're not good enough.

00:10:28.900 Because they're not...

00:10:29.540 You don't think they're good enough to organize in that kind of way?

00:10:32.680 They're not, they're not...

00:10:32.940 No.

00:10:32.980 I just...

00:10:33.780 No?

00:10:34.080 I don't think people are that...

00:10:35.760 I think they're remarkably centralized these days.

00:10:39.420 And I never imagined that bureaucracies could develop so much power and control.

00:10:43.980 But I think if you talked to every individual member of the bureaucracy, they wouldn't have

00:10:49.740 a collective consciousness with the other bureaucrats.

00:10:53.620 No, because they're on a need to know basis.

00:10:56.460 They're all living in the clerk mentality like the Nazis. 0.95

00:10:59.640 It's just, this is pre, pre, this is Berlin pre-World War II.

00:11:04.980 Well, it has some of those features now.

00:11:06.840 It has all of them.

00:11:07.980 I never... 1.00

00:11:08.260 We're talking about kill the Jews, get the Jews. 1.00

00:11:10.420 Shocking. 1.00

00:11:10.820 First, they ethnic... 1.00

00:11:11.260 Shocking.

00:11:12.080 They ethnically... 0.98

00:11:13.260 This is what makes me mad to see these young people. 0.99

00:11:16.480 They are so brainwashed. 0.96

00:11:18.120 I know. 0.99

00:11:18.560 And just with lies.

00:11:20.060 With lies.

00:11:20.920 You just had Ami Horowitz in here, didn't you?

00:11:22.800 Yes.

00:11:23.500 Did you see his video on River to the Sea?

00:11:27.200 Not that one, but I...

00:11:28.100 I did.

00:11:28.660 He went in and he asked all the kids, you know, River to the Sea, what river, what sea?

00:11:33.000 Yeah.

00:11:33.440 Let me show you a map.

00:11:34.580 Yeah.

00:11:34.780 He shows them a map.

00:11:35.420 They're like, oh, it just sounded good.

00:11:37.320 I didn't really want Israel to be destroyed necessarily.

00:11:39.760 And so...

00:11:41.380 It's mob.

00:11:42.720 These are mobs.

00:11:43.380 Yeah.

00:11:43.660 It is a mob.

00:11:44.380 It is a mob.

00:11:44.760 Angel mob.

00:11:45.380 An angel mob.

00:11:45.840 An angel mob.

00:11:46.600 I really thought we were past it.

00:11:49.120 Look, the guy that wrote...

00:11:50.420 The guy with the book...

00:11:51.180 Wait a minute.

00:11:51.860 Dr. Drew.

00:11:52.600 Yes.

00:11:52.880 Yes, ma'am.

00:11:53.160 I have so many questions, too.

00:11:54.560 Let's take a...

00:11:55.600 Imagine Hitler, but he had computers. 0.89

00:11:58.940 And internet.

00:11:59.440 Yeah, I know.

00:12:00.340 Now, you knew about Project Paperclip, Operation Paperclip, right?

00:12:06.960 I don't think I knew.

00:12:07.340 Oh, my God.

00:12:08.120 Dr. Drew.

00:12:08.900 The red pilling of Dr. Drew came to...

00:12:10.740 Oh, it's a fridge.

00:12:12.220 There you go.

00:12:12.440 Tell me.

00:12:13.020 Woo-hoo. 0.65

00:12:15.000 It's a real...

00:12:15.740 Well, explain it.

00:12:16.480 All right.

00:12:16.620 It's a historical thing.

00:12:17.940 It's an actual thing.

00:12:18.800 I know what you're thinking when you say, who's they?

00:12:22.040 Like, she's into conspiracy theories, and she is.

00:12:24.420 Yeah, see, I'm...

00:12:25.140 It ain't no conspiracy theory.

00:12:27.040 It's a conspiracy fact.

00:12:29.180 But you have conspiratorial thinking, and I have...

00:12:32.680 She does.

00:12:33.160 I don't.

00:12:33.860 I have autistic thinking, where I take apart systems, and then I see right through to the...

00:12:40.220 It's like a beautiful mind.

00:12:41.580 That's why I'm listening.

00:12:42.280 But I will tell you, don't do it.

00:12:43.860 But no, my bias is anti...

00:12:45.340 Yes.

00:12:45.520 I have an anti-conspiracy bias, right?

00:12:48.380 I know, because you haven't had that level of trauma.

00:12:51.940 That's true.

00:12:52.540 See?

00:12:53.000 Now, those of us who have had a deep, deep level of trauma, we understand that we got

00:12:59.420 there on purpose.

00:13:01.900 That we were created and made to go there.

00:13:06.300 You're going to have to explain more to me.

00:13:07.920 People who have had deep trauma and deep mental illness.

00:13:12.200 Okay.

00:13:12.520 Well, it's two different things.

00:13:14.100 Well, they...

00:13:14.800 One leads one...

00:13:15.220 They can.

00:13:16.580 Well, mental illness almost always is caused by trauma.

00:13:21.020 Before we walk down here...

00:13:22.360 Not always, but these days it is.

00:13:24.620 That's for sure.

00:13:25.620 Yeah.

00:13:26.060 But before we walk down here, you were questioning what is mental illness, right?

00:13:30.900 Yeah.

00:13:31.760 And we have to get very, very granular about it.

00:13:35.700 For me, mental illness...

00:13:36.840 There are going to be a lot of mental illness-like syndromes out there that people function very,

00:13:43.240 very well with.

00:13:44.040 Like, look at Elon Musk, right?

00:13:45.860 He's sort of hypomanic and he's sort of autistic-y and... 0.71

00:13:49.080 Yeah, he's kind of autistic-y. 1.00

00:13:50.440 He gets shit done. 0.99

00:13:51.600 Yeah, he does. 1.00

00:13:52.280 And he is happy doing what he does the way he does it.

00:13:53.980 Yeah.

00:13:54.460 I have a hard time calling that mental illness.

00:13:56.800 But if somebody can't function, can't have relationships, is disturbed and has tried

00:14:01.780 to change and can't, I'm going to call that mental illness. 0.60

00:14:04.460 But the symptoms can be the same.

00:14:05.960 I agree.

00:14:06.660 I agree with you.

00:14:07.480 Yeah.

00:14:07.880 Because it's either a gift or...

00:14:09.640 It's either a blessing or a curse.

00:14:11.440 Well, you receive...

00:14:11.880 And sometimes it'll switch and go that way and go that way.

00:14:15.500 Right, right.

00:14:15.940 And so you've recently...

00:14:16.660 It's moderating it.

00:14:17.440 Well, I saw you at the Skank Fest.

00:14:19.700 Oh. 0.92

00:14:20.220 And you were sort of leaning into your mental illness, you said, which I found very interesting.

00:14:25.880 I was just being me. 0.81

00:14:27.400 No, but listen.

00:14:27.960 And people are sort of therapeutically advocating leaning into some, like anxiety, lean into

00:14:33.340 it, panic, lean into it, and you can learn to master some of these things.

00:14:37.240 Yeah.

00:14:37.560 And they can become assets then, right?

00:14:39.760 Yeah.

00:14:40.140 Yeah.

00:14:40.540 Well, it has for you.

00:14:42.180 It's always worked for you.

00:14:43.620 Yeah.

00:14:43.920 Honestly.

00:14:44.460 That's how I do it.

00:14:44.860 If you've been a trauma survivor, you've certainly become very intuitive, right?

00:14:47.700 Yeah, you do.

00:14:48.580 Yeah.

00:14:48.760 But it's not just intuitive, because that kind of implies to me the woo-woo magic.

00:14:56.180 It can be.

00:14:56.600 Ooh, let's light a candle, and then I'll perceive how you smell my farts kind of thing.

00:15:03.660 Not that.

00:15:04.240 Definitely not.

00:15:04.960 I just want to say this real quick so we stay on topic.

00:15:06.860 What I was going to say is she is conspiratorial, but she also is well-researched.

00:15:11.580 So I'm going to be here while she talks to you, and I'm going to tell you what is actually

00:15:15.240 historically documented fact.

00:15:16.420 Okay, okay.

00:15:16.960 And again, like I said, I'm listening.

00:15:19.080 Yeah.

00:15:19.200 Well, I don't ever say nothing that ain't documented fact.

00:15:22.140 No, but sometimes you'll...

00:15:24.640 I do editorialize on it.

00:15:25.480 You'll add your theory to it.

00:15:26.800 Yes, yes. 0.96

00:15:27.740 That's when I get in trouble, like when I say, you devil worshiping mother peppers. 0.99

00:15:32.580 That isn't good.

00:15:33.720 So anyway, Project...

00:15:34.780 You were talking Project Marna or Paperclip?

00:15:36.420 Operation Paperclip.

00:15:37.320 All right.

00:15:37.640 Explain that to them.

00:15:38.800 Well, this is well-documented, and many people have written a million and ten words on it

00:15:45.140 all over.

00:15:45.500 You can find it all over the way.

00:15:47.120 Yeah, just give them the two-minute summary.

00:15:49.180 Okay.

00:15:50.640 Cut to the chase.

00:15:53.680 America, when winning World War II, when the Germans surrendered with Russia and all that,

00:16:00.120 well, we carved up the fat between the three of us, and we came to an agreement there.

00:16:05.700 We and Russia?

00:16:07.640 And Germany.

00:16:08.720 And England.

00:16:09.600 England.

00:16:09.920 And England, and, you know...

00:16:11.420 The Allies.

00:16:12.220 France, maybe.

00:16:12.800 Yeah.

00:16:13.300 And Germany.

00:16:15.240 The German people.

00:16:16.600 Okay.

00:16:18.260 Which was, that was the whole trial, but that...

00:16:20.940 Okay.

00:16:21.580 Trial.

00:16:21.900 But they did surrender.

00:16:23.240 Okay.

00:16:23.680 Okay.

00:16:24.120 They were captured, or they were captured, or anyway, this is what it is.

00:16:28.900 World War II ended, and everyone assumes that the Nazis lost. 0.63

00:16:34.520 But they actually didn't lose, because the United States sponsored several of the most

00:16:43.220 brilliant scientist Nazis... 0.81

00:16:46.120 Oppenheimer.

00:16:46.860 ...to come here.

00:16:47.740 ...to come here.

00:16:48.480 Oh, yeah.

00:16:48.740 And had our space program, and many other programs like that.

00:16:51.860 Oh, yeah.

00:16:51.980 So that was the name of the project.

00:16:53.060 Now, I don't know how Nazi they were, but they were definitely... 0.96

00:16:54.380 No, they were full.

00:16:55.380 Okay.

00:16:55.900 Members.

00:16:56.620 Okay.

00:16:56.780 You know, a lot of people were fighting in the German army, and were not Nazis.

00:17:00.300 Right.

00:17:00.620 But you had to go through a special club to be...

00:17:05.620 You had to take an oath.

00:17:07.700 So that was the project name that...

00:17:09.780 That brought the scientists over.

00:17:10.840 Operation...

00:17:11.260 The rocket scientists.

00:17:12.520 Operation Paper.

00:17:13.240 Okay.

00:17:13.620 So there is Nazi... 0.76

00:17:14.820 One of the first things they did, because some of the Nazi scientists that we brought 0.97

00:17:18.820 over were familiar with and masters of mind control and terrorizing captive populations.

00:17:24.960 Trauma-based mind control.

00:17:25.840 Trauma-based mind control.

00:17:27.220 Trauma-based mind control.

00:17:28.660 And terrorizing, captivated populations.

00:17:33.540 Okay.

00:17:33.780 Like the assets.

00:17:34.240 Such as the Warsaw Ghetto and other things like that in Nazi Germany.

00:17:37.840 Yes.

00:17:38.120 And what was that program called, the trauma-based mind control, which is a document?

00:17:41.640 MKUltra.

00:17:42.580 MKUltra.

00:17:43.060 So we have...

00:17:43.940 So that's where our MKUltra came from.

00:17:45.560 Yeah.

00:17:45.780 It's the same thing.

00:17:46.580 Did we have it already?

00:17:47.240 It's mind control.

00:17:48.360 Yes, it was brought here.

00:17:48.820 We had it already when they brought the Germans over. 1.00

00:17:50.960 It's German, MKUltra, German mind control. 0.91

00:17:54.160 Okay.

00:17:54.420 But MKUltra, wasn't it in Kentucky or something?

00:17:57.220 No, it was at Penn State.

00:17:58.940 Is that where it was?

00:17:59.500 Okay.

00:17:59.880 Because we also had the farm in Kentucky where we studied mental illness and opiate addiction

00:18:05.240 and stuff.

00:18:05.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:06.220 What was that?

00:18:06.540 I'm sure every country had some version of mind control.

00:18:08.500 What's the farm?

00:18:10.000 It's where they first really kind of characterized addiction as an illness and how to do withdrawal

00:18:15.460 and how to get people off opiates.

00:18:16.940 And it's where they were doing the LSD mind control studies.

00:18:20.640 Oh, I know about that.

00:18:21.620 Yeah.

00:18:22.060 Yeah.

00:18:22.220 And I think MKUltra came in there maybe and started doing something.

00:18:25.640 That's why they closed it all down.

00:18:27.400 Yeah, but it kept on.

00:18:28.960 Well, that one.

00:18:30.300 Doing like weird experiments on captive populations.

00:18:33.540 Yes.

00:18:34.100 Like foster kids is one in New York.

00:18:37.460 All this crazy, you know.

00:18:39.300 So I'm familiar with MKUltra.

00:18:41.520 It is a well-documented thing.

00:18:44.560 How far it went, I don't know.

00:18:47.000 I have no knowledge of that.

00:18:48.080 And nobody does, Jake says, which is very real.

00:18:50.840 There's a million of like Operation Bluebird, Operation Artichoke.

00:18:57.180 But you are seeing evidence.

00:18:59.820 I do feel kind of-

00:19:01.120 That's what we're getting at.

00:19:01.620 I'm going to sound very conspiratorial myself.

00:19:03.260 No, they just are trying to figure out how to control us. 0.99

00:19:06.880 So we'll work for shit money and not gripe. 0.99

00:19:10.120 What were you saying? 0.99

00:19:11.460 Well, it's sort of, I was about to say something like that.

00:19:14.760 We're not quite that way, but I'm going to say something like, the COVID for me exposed

00:19:22.100 some things.

00:19:22.840 Oh, yeah, right.

00:19:24.240 And it exposed sort of, if nothing else, how bureaucrats think about us.

00:19:30.040 Right.

00:19:30.160 And how they want to, you know, when they decide they need to change our behavior, how

00:19:34.180 they do it.

00:19:34.860 And it was sort of shocking to me.

00:19:37.300 Well, not sort of shocking.

00:19:37.960 It was deeply, deeply, profoundly shocking.

00:19:40.680 Like in what way?

00:19:42.400 Like using fear to scare the hell out of everybody with COVID.

00:19:46.780 Trauma-based mind control.

00:19:47.480 Like everything about masking was bizarre.

00:19:49.920 Wasn't the mask six feet apart?

00:19:51.840 Like six feet was like, it was not.

00:19:54.800 It was six feet under.

00:19:56.380 That was the message.

00:19:57.460 Well, I will tell you, I was with, I was with, I interviewed a guy that was in the room

00:20:02.680 with the CDC when they decided six feet.

00:20:05.760 And there was no evidence.

00:20:08.220 No.

00:20:08.620 They had no understanding of yet.

00:20:11.480 They speculated that it was probably like other respiratory viruses, aerosolized, and

00:20:18.260 therefore 30 to 60 feet would be necessary.

00:20:21.620 But they just went, oh, we'll get them to do six feet. 1.00

00:20:24.060 Yeah.

00:20:24.780 Science.

00:20:25.540 Nothing.

00:20:26.240 Trust me.

00:20:26.600 There's no science.

00:20:27.120 I am science.

00:20:27.680 Yeah, trust us.

00:20:28.640 And there's no, no, it is to this date.

00:20:30.840 First of all, social distancing.

00:20:32.200 Never reviewed anything.

00:20:33.040 Nothing.

00:20:33.620 Zero, nothing.

00:20:34.480 Because nothing.

00:20:35.220 There's nothing there.

00:20:35.940 It wasn't science.

00:20:36.180 Now we know for sure it's aerosolized and it goes quite a distance and six feet does nothing.

00:20:40.100 And masks.

00:20:40.440 And they also have all this data now on where people contracted it and how.

00:20:44.560 And it's usually not in very close proximity.

00:20:47.260 It's not something they appreciate. 0.99

00:20:49.340 Do you think it's from having sex with monkeys? 0.99

00:20:51.940 Now we're back to HIV? 0.99

00:20:53.240 No.

00:20:54.240 Because that's where that was ruminating.

00:20:56.060 I never knew if that was right.

00:20:57.900 But I don't think it was HIV because I read this woman, Celia Farber.

00:21:02.860 She's a genius journalist, although she's a conspiracy theorist to me.

00:21:08.180 Okay.

00:21:08.280 But she said that the place they tested the polio virus happens to be the exact same place where AIDS started 20 years after.

00:21:21.140 Well, to be fair, this whole world of manipulating viruses.

00:21:29.460 I interviewed Rand Paul a couple hours before they came here.

00:21:32.480 And he was telling me, he's written a book now where he just puts all the evidence into like 400 pages.

00:21:37.960 And there's a whole lot of stuff going on that we should be very concerned about.

00:21:42.160 He is truly autistic to the max. 0.73

00:21:44.080 I love Rand Paul.

00:21:45.520 Really?

00:21:45.980 On the detail.

00:21:46.900 He reminds me of all the ophthalmologists from my era.

00:21:50.940 They're all like super bright and super, super precise.

00:21:55.640 I love him.

00:21:56.840 I had a very warm feeling about him.

00:21:58.640 I didn't get an autistic feeling talking to him.

00:22:00.460 Oh, I do because I can spot it.

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00:22:32.420 So he has all this information about all the different kinds of programs that were going on, and who knows how far back that goes in history and where and why it was localized in certain areas and stuff.

00:22:48.760 So there is reason to be concerned about how viruses have been manipulated.

00:22:53.520 What about giving smallpox to the natives and the blankets? 0.98

00:22:57.680 That was Lord Geoffrey Amherst.

00:23:00.560 I went to college in Amherst College, and Lord Geoff was the one that invented the germ warfare of the smallpox-infected blankets, which is why we had to change our mascot to the mammoth from Lord Geoff.

00:23:12.300 Oh, wow.

00:23:13.700 Oh, my God.

00:23:16.040 Isn't it just all so weird and freaky? 1.00

00:23:19.020 It doesn't have to be this stupid. 1.00

00:23:22.420 But it is. 0.98

00:23:23.400 And I've, you know, there's so many things about my thinking that are new to me that I feel so uncomfortable because I'm open to things and I'm thinking in ways that I've not really thought my whole life.

00:23:39.120 Oh, that's a good thing.

00:23:40.440 I guess.

00:23:40.940 I've opened my mind to a lot of stuff.

00:23:42.280 How old are you?

00:23:42.920 Well, let me ask.

00:23:43.760 When, when.

00:23:44.460 Are you a, is that.

00:23:45.740 How old am I now?

00:23:46.600 Is that okay to ask you?

00:23:48.020 Yeah, 65.

00:23:48.380 I'm 65.

00:23:48.880 Oh, you're.

00:23:49.360 Wow, you look great.

00:23:49.980 65.

00:23:50.460 Yeah.

00:23:50.840 Okay, great.

00:23:51.340 No, you look great.

00:23:52.560 Well, I look great, yeah.

00:23:53.240 But I, but I get, 65 is a, it's a thing.

00:23:55.540 You notice it when you cross that?

00:23:56.860 It is, yeah.

00:23:56.880 It was like a thing.

00:23:57.980 Then you get on the, you get the social.

00:24:00.020 Medicare.

00:24:00.400 Yeah, Medicare.

00:24:00.900 Get Medicare.

00:24:01.400 But you've been.

00:24:01.960 Medicare.

00:24:02.340 That's good, right?

00:24:02.480 That's when you get all the reconstructive surgery.

00:24:06.640 You can get it covered?

00:24:08.480 You can't get that covered.

00:24:09.520 I just had my shoulders injected with stem cells.

00:24:11.720 I didn't get that covered.

00:24:12.100 I just got that too.

00:24:13.380 And my knees.

00:24:14.280 Oh, the knees works very well.

00:24:15.220 Where'd they get the stem cells from?

00:24:16.860 They got them.

00:24:19.100 We don't know.

00:24:19.560 We got it to Joe Rogan's people.

00:24:20.660 Dead babies.

00:24:21.260 Oh, yeah.

00:24:21.680 No.

00:24:21.820 So I had them harvested from me.

00:24:24.060 Yeah, they're from me.

00:24:24.960 From my fat and from my bone marrow stuff.

00:24:26.260 They're from me.

00:24:26.840 I think it's the same technique.

00:24:27.620 Yeah, I think they took it from someone.

00:24:30.040 Cord blood or something.

00:24:30.860 Probably organ trafficking.

00:24:32.300 Who knows?

00:24:32.780 We didn't ask. 1.00

00:24:33.400 No, I checked that shit out. 1.00

00:24:35.140 No, it's Joe Rogan. 1.00

00:24:35.440 I don't want no part of that.

00:24:36.740 I don't think Joe Rogan.

00:24:37.980 I'm joking.

00:24:38.800 No, Joe.

00:24:39.440 Joe is very, very knowledgeable.

00:24:41.560 It's his guy.

00:24:42.400 Ways to well.

00:24:42.900 No, I saw that Sean Baker went to him too.

00:24:45.280 And that looked very appropriate to me.

00:24:46.520 Yes, they are very moral in their choices.

00:24:48.900 No, Joe is, what would a good word be?

00:24:51.820 Autistic.

00:24:52.560 Discriminating.

00:24:53.120 He is discriminating.

00:24:54.680 He is knowledgeable.

00:24:55.680 But your mind has been opening.

00:24:57.140 So my mind has been opening.

00:24:58.160 He's short.

00:24:58.740 He's very short.

00:24:59.920 Yeah.

00:25:00.140 Joe Rogan.

00:25:00.740 That's sizism. 0.96

00:25:02.060 Anyway, sorry.

00:25:03.020 You're going to get canceled.

00:25:05.140 Was it COVID that kind of...

00:25:06.720 Yes, it was absolutely COVID.

00:25:08.540 And it's been...

00:25:10.600 I've been just sort of ruminating about stuff.

00:25:12.640 What about like on Twitter or any of the social media when people would say that's not

00:25:18.580 true and they'd ban them if people had any dissent at all to the official...

00:25:23.440 Well, that was me.

00:25:23.640 I got banned a couple times.

00:25:24.700 Yeah, that's what I'm going to talk about.

00:25:25.660 I got crushed.

00:25:26.980 And it's just brutality.

00:25:29.580 Isn't it?

00:25:30.060 And by the way, to me, the poster child...

00:25:33.640 You had to interview him maybe at some point.

00:25:35.280 The poster child for the cancellation of high quality professionals is Jay Bhattacharya.

00:25:40.320 Who's that?

00:25:40.860 Do you know Jay?

00:25:41.280 He's an epidemiologist from Stanford, physician, researcher.

00:25:44.960 Look up Jay Bhattacharya.

00:25:45.900 He's a gentleman.

00:25:47.140 He's a scholar.

00:25:48.940 He's a decorated professor.

00:25:51.140 And he was one of the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration.

00:25:57.000 And he just got destroyed for that.

00:25:59.020 I don't know what that is.

00:26:00.600 It's a group of doctors and researchers that raised their hand and went, I think we can

00:26:05.060 do this better.

00:26:05.920 I think there's Jay.

00:26:08.080 Yeah, we had it for a second there.

00:26:09.600 Okay.

00:26:10.360 We can do this better.

00:26:11.440 We can give focal...

00:26:12.460 We should be doing focal sort of isolation of people with the illness, elderly people, 1.00

00:26:17.060 risk populations.

00:26:18.220 We should be using early treatments.

00:26:19.660 He had all kinds of great ideas that would have been much better and not contributed to

00:26:24.020 the mental health disaster we're in right now.

00:26:25.880 We started this conversation talking about the mental health issues.

00:26:28.140 That's Jay.

00:26:28.600 Does he look like an outlying maniac to you?

00:26:31.120 No.

00:26:31.680 I think I remember this guy.

00:26:33.220 He's a very gentle man.

00:26:34.500 And he is the poster child of the excesses of who they chose to cancel.

00:26:39.700 In any event, all the stuff they did...

00:26:42.380 I mean, we hurt the mental health of so many young people.

00:26:47.920 Oh, yeah.

00:26:48.500 Destroyed it. 0.72

00:26:49.280 Destroyed it. 0.97

00:26:49.940 Without a second thought.

00:26:51.020 The whole process of going through a risk-reward analysis on the things they were doing was

00:26:55.760 just absent.

00:26:56.480 They were just demanding things.

00:26:58.020 Yeah.

00:26:58.360 And it hurt a lot of people.

00:27:00.080 And I want people that were hurt to be pissed.

00:27:02.280 They should be furious.

00:27:03.100 Well, we are.

00:27:03.940 I hope they are. 0.99

00:27:04.760 I'm fucking furious. 0.98

00:27:05.740 I'm 45, but I... 0.99

00:27:07.320 So you're a little older.

00:27:08.160 So you've already underway.

00:27:09.400 But anybody from like 22 to 30 and then also younger, like late childhood and adolescence,

00:27:16.640 they are...

00:27:17.140 They would just...

00:27:18.400 This is a matter of 11 years old.

00:27:20.680 And every second of the TV, they're saying, you know, shelter in place.

00:27:24.680 Shelter in place.

00:27:25.400 Your mayor is saying, shelter in place.

00:27:27.240 That's an incoming nuclear weapon.

00:27:29.060 Yeah, it is. 1.00

00:27:29.680 And by the way, if you don't, you're going to kill your parents. 1.00

00:27:32.240 You're going to kill your family. 1.00

00:27:33.580 Yeah. 1.00

00:27:33.780 And then three years of no contact with your peers.

00:27:35.920 You think that's going to be a healthy person at the end of that?

00:27:37.940 No.

00:27:38.340 I mean, talk about MKUltra.

00:27:40.320 Well, that's how they did it in Germany, too, because they demanded that the children 0.96

00:27:44.080 turn in their parents.

00:27:45.180 I remember that.

00:27:45.780 And their neighbors, if they heard them say anything, that was, you know, dissenting with

00:27:52.900 the Reich, which is like, okay, hey, if you hear them say anything anti the Democrat

00:27:58.400 party, you let us know.

00:28:00.780 It's just like that, you know.

00:28:02.240 That's what we're living in. 0.52

00:28:03.040 They're domestic terrorists.

00:28:03.980 Number one threat.

00:28:04.820 Yeah.

00:28:06.180 That's what the FBI says, what Chris Ray says.

00:28:08.400 So I'm sitting across from one, right?

00:28:09.840 Yeah.

00:28:10.220 Did they say, I read today it was a good meme that said FBI following Biden's or,

00:28:17.000 initiatives or something like that.

00:28:19.760 Well, it's sad to me that we can't, like, dialogue our differences.

00:28:26.760 Well, we can here on the Roseanne Barr podcast.

00:28:29.400 Yeah, we can.

00:28:30.140 Okay.

00:28:30.240 Yeah.

00:28:30.440 No, we can.

00:28:31.000 So when COVID started.

00:28:32.180 I mean, we all know what needs to be done.

00:28:34.140 I'm not sure what needs to be done, frankly.

00:28:35.840 Oh, I am.

00:28:37.260 I'm listening.

00:28:38.800 Well, we need to clean everything up and start over again.

00:28:41.920 We need a reboot.

00:28:43.220 How do you do that?

00:28:44.580 A reboot?

00:28:45.900 How do we do that?

00:28:46.860 We got a lot of people that think very differently.

00:28:49.100 A lot of people are very concerned about a lot of things that I actually understand and

00:28:53.480 share their concerns, but that they don't see anything but that.

00:28:57.160 Yeah.

00:28:57.520 It kind of gets a little, you know, weird that people don't see the full spectrum of what's

00:29:03.200 happening.

00:29:03.580 Well, people who can't play nice with their neighbors.

00:29:07.420 I've said things.

00:29:08.760 I'm saying things that I can imagine are coming out of my mouth all the time.

00:29:12.240 And the latest thing has been, we just need the golden rule back.

00:29:15.000 Yeah.

00:29:15.320 Just the golden rule.

00:29:16.140 I'll go for that.

00:29:16.900 That'd be a great step forward.

00:29:18.760 But don't say back, because it never was here.

00:29:22.160 It's never been here.

00:29:23.440 Not the way you'd like it?

00:29:24.480 Well, it's never existed in reality.

00:29:27.040 That's why we've had to coach people up on it.

00:29:28.940 Well, nobody's ever, you know, occasionally somebody will do something right, probably

00:29:35.400 accidentally, is the way I see it.

00:29:38.580 So this is your trauma world speaking to me again.

00:29:42.120 No, this is reality, as my empirical wisdom.

00:29:47.100 Which is that humans are self-serving.

00:29:49.700 Oh, they're nothing but. 0.89

00:29:50.900 Nothing but.

00:29:52.320 And would it not be...

00:29:53.860 Conniving.

00:29:54.740 Would it not be true?

00:29:55.900 See, I'm in denial about that.

00:29:57.280 I believe people are good.

00:29:58.980 I think some are.

00:30:00.020 I think some are.

00:30:00.340 And I get very upset when I have to go your direction.

00:30:04.260 Some are, though.

00:30:05.420 But you've got to be able to note the difference between them and the other ones.

00:30:08.920 Yeah, they're in jail.

00:30:09.480 But that's the problem. 1.00

00:30:10.660 Nobody has been taught any discernment to tell between an ass-raping fucking monstrous 1.00

00:30:19.740 criminal or just a nice person. 1.00

00:30:23.740 How do we discriminate?

00:30:25.360 Well, I mean, because the nice person might say the wrong word. 1.00

00:30:29.820 But the ass-raping fucking criminal says all the right words. 0.99

00:30:34.300 So, of course, you're going to go for that. 1.00

00:30:36.740 Interesting.

00:30:37.260 Because that's the mind control program we're under.

00:30:40.660 Hi, it's Jake Pentland here.

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00:32:05.060 That we cannot get free of yet.

00:32:08.800 But I do have hope because I believe in God.

00:32:12.160 Do you believe in God?

00:32:13.980 I definitely believe in higher something.

00:32:18.120 You know what I mean?

00:32:19.060 I mean, my little brain is not the end and the beginning of anything.

00:32:25.640 But do you personally feel anything?

00:32:28.040 I don't feel like there's a...

00:32:29.200 I don't...

00:32:29.840 No, I feel like...

00:32:30.700 I just feel a higher something.

00:32:33.840 In you?

00:32:34.980 No.

00:32:35.860 No.

00:32:36.200 Do you feel any connection of your body to anything?

00:32:41.200 No, no.

00:32:42.180 Higher?

00:32:42.660 Well, yes.

00:32:44.540 But I experience it in communion with other people.

00:32:48.860 Uh-huh.

00:32:49.160 See, I'm deeply, deeply...

00:32:50.080 You feel elevated when you're of service?

00:32:53.200 I feel service.

00:32:54.060 And when I'm deeply attuned to another person, I feel like, oh, that's something extraordinary

00:32:59.300 there.

00:32:59.960 That is something extraordinary.

00:33:01.080 The two of us create this thing...

00:33:03.360 Yep.

00:33:03.940 ...that is just extraordinary.

00:33:06.240 And it...

00:33:07.720 Well, you know what Jesus said about that?

00:33:09.720 Whenever two or more are gathered in my name, you know, which is like a creation of reality,

00:33:18.860 which we...

00:33:19.760 We're all living in this fake reality...

00:33:22.880 Yes.

00:33:23.100 ...that was foisted on us that don't have nothing to do with reality.

00:33:28.440 Maybe.

00:33:29.540 Yeah, that's what I think.

00:33:30.480 Or at least isn't as real as we rely on it to be.

00:33:33.640 We want it to be the totality of real, and it just isn't.

00:33:36.840 The real is when you're needing something, you know?

00:33:39.260 Yeah.

00:33:40.680 And like this happened to me in Texas.

00:33:44.060 I got lost on the four-wheeler there.

00:33:48.900 I went the wrong way.

00:33:50.100 In the desert?

00:33:50.940 No, in our housing development or whatever you call it.

00:33:54.260 Okay.

00:33:54.740 Our ranch site.

00:33:56.220 So I end up just lost as hell.

00:33:58.800 I had my granddaughter with me, and I was worried I was running out of gas.

00:34:02.620 So I just had this feeling.

00:34:07.200 Do you...

00:34:07.500 I just had a feeling that told me what to do.

00:34:10.320 Do I have feelings like that?

00:34:11.580 I was setting it up.

00:34:12.440 Do you ever have like a feeling, like a voice or a feeling that goes,

00:34:16.100 hey, doc, why don't you go over there, and something really good's going to happen if you do it right now?

00:34:25.880 I don't have anything quite that vivid or direct, but I definitely have instincts and things, and sometimes they're right and sometimes they're wrong.

00:34:36.420 Yeah.

00:34:36.600 But I definitely have...

00:34:38.820 I know what you're talking about.

00:34:39.980 Yeah.

00:34:40.100 It's not a voice or anything.

00:34:41.420 It's just sort of like...

00:34:42.340 It occurs to you.

00:34:44.280 I have...

00:34:45.120 Look, I think stuff comes out of our bodies.

00:34:48.400 Uh-huh.

00:34:48.780 Like our bodies are some sort of antenna or something.

00:34:51.660 Yeah, that's true.

00:34:52.500 Millions of years of evolution are wound up in our autonomic system.

00:34:56.720 Uh-huh.

00:34:57.060 And it will suddenly speak to us.

00:34:59.300 Now, I experience most of that when I'm with another person.

00:35:03.600 So...

00:35:03.840 So it suddenly speaks to you?

00:35:05.200 What do you mean by that?

00:35:06.320 I'm intrigued by that.

00:35:07.240 Like I will...

00:35:07.800 Like when I'm sitting and talking to somebody deeply and listening and attuning and they're talking about something like that.

00:35:12.040 You're talking about empathy.

00:35:13.040 Hmm?

00:35:13.380 Empathy.

00:35:14.460 But it's a little more than...

00:35:15.300 It's called attunement.

00:35:16.580 Mm-hmm.

00:35:17.520 And I will like hear music or have smells or feel something in my body.

00:35:21.600 Interesting.

00:35:22.520 And let me see if I can kind of do it here with you.

00:35:26.720 It's funny.

00:35:27.460 I get different things when I look in each eye, which is...

00:35:30.760 Yeah, because one eye is fake.

00:35:32.660 Oh, that's why.

00:35:34.200 Is that right?

00:35:34.660 Oh, yeah.

00:35:36.100 Well, so I was...

00:35:37.740 Yeah.

00:35:38.120 But that's uncanny, right?

00:35:39.500 Yeah.

00:35:39.680 That I can really know that.

00:35:42.000 Yeah.

00:35:42.620 And when I look in the real eye, I...

00:35:48.320 Do you know which one's the real eye?

00:35:49.400 The right eye is your real eye, right?

00:35:50.880 No, I think...

00:35:51.420 This one's my real eye.

00:35:52.300 The left eye is your real eye.

00:35:53.520 No, this is my real eye.

00:35:54.540 They're both real.

00:35:55.320 It's just a cornea transplant.

00:35:56.760 What?

00:35:57.440 It's a cornea transplant.

00:35:58.840 She had a cornea transplant.

00:35:59.760 Yeah, but except for it's not human.

00:36:01.620 No, but I mean, it's your real eyeball.

00:36:03.000 Was one of them seeing, or both seeing?

00:36:05.520 Yeah, I can see.

00:36:06.400 Okay, so I can...

00:36:07.120 This one flashes.

00:36:08.180 This is the fake eye.

00:36:08.460 It's like fancy LASIK.

00:36:09.800 Right, so I can...

00:36:10.280 Is this my left side?

00:36:11.260 Yes.

00:36:11.720 So it's your right side?

00:36:13.220 It's your left that I was talking about, but it's the right that I'm looking at that I

00:36:16.100 can see...

00:36:16.440 It's the good eye.

00:36:17.060 That I can see a little more clearly.

00:36:17.980 And I get two things.

00:36:19.780 In the right eye?

00:36:21.220 This is the real eye.

00:36:22.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:23.680 Oh, you're going to read me.

00:36:25.120 He's doing it right now.

00:36:25.700 That's what...

00:36:26.160 What's her name was saying?

00:36:27.560 No, no, no.

00:36:28.120 He's a tuning.

00:36:29.700 Kim.

00:36:30.160 Kim.

00:36:30.640 Kim.

00:36:30.680 Kim.

00:36:30.720 Kim.

00:36:30.820 Kim.

00:36:30.940 No, he's seeing if he can pick up smells and stuff.

00:36:32.840 No, no.

00:36:33.320 No, she said, get him to read you.

00:36:35.320 It's uncanny.

00:36:36.100 Okay, so...

00:36:36.820 Oh, let me be quiet and watch this.

00:36:37.640 She was asking me if I have any experiences when I'm sitting here with you, and I had

00:36:43.020 several, and one is I felt kind of heavy, right?

00:36:49.120 He called you fat, just for the record. 0.84

00:36:51.180 Huh? 0.98

00:36:52.220 I'm joking.

00:36:53.660 One, I felt like an elephant stepping on my chest.

00:36:57.820 Then I felt like something going on in my stomach, something I don't like, and then I

00:37:06.060 felt kind of dead.

00:37:07.640 Isn't that weird?

00:37:09.320 Like tired?

00:37:10.260 No, just sort of, I don't know.

00:37:12.020 Scared me.

00:37:12.840 Huh.

00:37:13.660 Is that something, some part of you that I'm...

00:37:15.800 Are you dying?

00:37:16.780 Or some part of you that died in some of that trauma, you know, that you left behind?

00:37:20.420 Oh, it didn't die.

00:37:22.620 It...

00:37:23.100 Oh, are you...

00:37:24.760 What are you...

00:37:25.380 I don't know.

00:37:26.000 Are you picking up...

00:37:26.260 I don't know.

00:37:26.920 I wonder what you're picking up, because none of that's kind of...

00:37:31.280 I mean, of course that's in my past, but that's...

00:37:34.380 But it leaves imprints.

00:37:35.680 It's, you know, that past leaves stuff on your brain.

00:37:38.180 It leaves imprints.

00:37:38.440 Oh, it's left all kind of things in there.

00:37:40.620 Like, you know...

00:37:41.880 I mean, I'll never really fully trust anyone in my life.

00:37:45.480 That's what trauma does, for sure.

00:37:46.620 Yeah, it does.

00:37:47.320 But how can you?

00:37:48.420 No.

00:37:48.540 That's not anything you can learn.

00:37:51.540 And, you know, when you do, it always turns out that you were wrong.

00:37:57.700 When you do trust someone.

00:37:59.280 Uh-huh.

00:38:00.000 Yeah, there's always the...

00:38:02.300 And it's never not happened.

00:38:06.220 And I go, that must be my own personal programming.

00:38:10.300 It has nothing to do with that other person.

00:38:12.600 Um, not per se.

00:38:16.760 Yeah.

00:38:17.060 I mean, you picked them.

00:38:17.980 Yeah.

00:38:18.360 Right?

00:38:18.960 Mm-hmm.

00:38:19.480 Um, but nobody's perfect, so everyone will let you down sometime.

00:38:24.700 Hopefully.

00:38:25.840 Hopefully.

00:38:26.600 Yeah, and then you can move.

00:38:27.820 You know, my dream is to just live on a desert island alone for the most of my life, except

00:38:35.020 for to come and visit my children and grandchildren now and then, you know.

00:38:38.720 All right, well, that's good.

00:38:39.140 Every so often.

00:38:40.020 She's lying.

00:38:40.520 She doesn't like to hang out with us.

00:38:41.320 That's a lie?

00:38:41.900 Yeah, she doesn't want to hang out with us either. 0.93

00:38:43.360 She's kidding.

00:38:43.840 She doesn't want to ever visit you? 1.00

00:38:44.980 No.

00:38:45.640 I'm kidding.

00:38:46.360 No, I do.

00:38:47.360 I like to visit my...

00:38:48.480 No, we live together.

00:38:49.540 We have a great time.

00:38:50.020 Olivia.

00:38:50.340 I like to visit my kids and grandkids. 0.98

00:38:53.200 But aside from them, anyone who did not come out of my personal vagina, I don't want to 0.99

00:38:59.160 even hang around with. 1.00

00:39:00.960 Do you have anything other than a personal vagina? 1.00

00:39:02.360 No. 1.00

00:39:02.680 I was going to ask.

00:39:03.400 But I mean, I don't want...

00:39:05.180 I don't have any energy because at this point in my life,

00:39:08.900 it's not like I'm going to start a relationship.

00:39:11.740 Yeah.

00:39:12.040 I have all the friends I need.

00:39:14.420 Yeah.

00:39:14.580 They know every horror of my life.

00:39:17.520 So I'm not going to go get new friends and have to explain to them.

00:39:21.240 That's okay.

00:39:21.560 Except for they're all dying.

00:39:23.000 That's the only thing about getting old, Dr. Drew.

00:39:25.780 I know.

00:39:26.080 What are we going to do about this dying?

00:39:28.140 How can they... 1.00

00:39:29.420 Can't they figure that shit out? 1.00

00:39:31.400 They're better at making people die. 1.00

00:39:35.740 They're good at figuring that out.

00:39:36.580 We have to move aside for the next ones to come along.

00:39:39.800 It'd be too many of us if we all lived.

00:39:42.040 I don't know about what's coming along, though.

00:39:44.820 I think these kids, I mean, they're not going to be able to take care of themselves. 1.00

00:39:49.540 They're too goddamn stupid. 1.00

00:39:51.280 Well, back to what I was thinking a few minutes ago about stupid, one of the ways that I said 1.00

00:39:59.580 I was uncomfortable the way I think now and the things I'm open to, I've started getting 0.96

00:40:03.680 very reductionistic in my thinking about people and things and ideas and circumstance to either 0.96

00:40:11.200 smart or dumb. 0.98

00:40:12.280 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:12.560 Smart or dumb. 0.99

00:40:13.400 I'm just starting right there these days because things have gotten pretty complicated. 1.00

00:40:17.820 They're just so stupid. 1.00

00:40:19.500 Sometimes they are. 1.00

00:40:20.260 They're involuted.

00:40:21.080 They're not evolved.

00:40:22.340 They're involved.

00:40:23.980 The kids.

00:40:24.760 No, I just mean everything in the world.

00:40:27.060 It didn't move forward.

00:40:28.260 Is it all maybe the phones and maybe we have the new...

00:40:30.020 Well, that's what I wanted to ask.

00:40:31.220 Thank you.

00:40:31.280 Yeah, it was like the Gutenberg Bible where they were saying the exact same things they

00:40:35.460 were saying about the printing press back in the day that we're saying about the phone.

00:40:39.280 I think social media is a huge, huge problem.

00:40:42.220 Of course it is.

00:40:43.060 I think, and you'll probably disagree with me, but I think pharmaceutical industry is a huge,

00:40:48.380 huge problem.

00:40:48.860 But there's just nothing better.

00:40:49.860 I would have disagreed with you two years ago.

00:40:51.820 Yeah, I know.

00:40:52.600 That's why I've always, I won't do that now, but I've always wanted to talk to you about

00:40:56.600 this stuff and I wanted to ask if your opinions on that have changed.

00:40:58.820 It doesn't mean that some medicines don't work.

00:41:01.920 I'm not one of those like black and white.

00:41:03.160 Yeah.

00:41:03.260 But I think there is a bottom line to it that's more about the stockholders than the patient.

00:41:09.680 And I've also noticed doctors treat symptoms.

00:41:12.480 They don't treat the entire organism.

00:41:14.660 And that seems to have changed a long...

00:41:16.480 And I think what happened is they're thinking, and correct me if I'm wrong, over time culture

00:41:21.100 was like, you know what?

00:41:21.780 It's easier just to give... 1.00

00:41:22.920 Americans are crazy. 1.00

00:41:23.980 Just give them a pill. 1.00

00:41:24.940 They don't want to do the work.

00:41:25.840 They don't want to go through therapy.

00:41:26.660 Well, there's some of that.

00:41:27.820 There's some of that for sure.

00:41:29.120 Yeah.

00:41:29.240 Let's just look at like...

00:41:31.100 We want to pay money for a pill.

00:41:32.100 Let's look at illnesses related to dietary excess.

00:41:35.660 Right.

00:41:36.420 You know, we've given up on helping people with that because they just don't change.

00:41:41.360 Now we've got Ozembic, so okay, we'll use that now.

00:41:43.960 Stop eating so much and work out.

00:41:45.580 How do I get some of that Ozembic? 0.86

00:41:47.520 You don't need it.

00:41:48.420 No, but how would I get some?

00:41:51.240 Weight Watchers.

00:41:52.200 You can call Weight Watchers now.

00:41:53.460 They're prescribing it.

00:41:54.600 Are you kidding me?

00:41:56.140 It's bad.

00:41:56.200 Oprah admitted today that she's on it.

00:41:58.080 I figured she was on it.

00:41:59.820 That's what I thought too.

00:42:00.800 She was in that purple gown.

00:42:02.540 Now she's going, I use it just for maintenance.

00:42:04.520 What difference does it make when you're using it?

00:42:07.140 It's good.

00:42:07.640 It's all right.

00:42:08.320 It works.

00:42:08.920 It's dangerous.

00:42:10.000 But the diabetics are dropping dead every day because they can't get their meds. 1.00

00:42:14.400 Because all the fat ass Hollywood bitches are taking it all. 1.00

00:42:17.840 There's many good medicines for diabetes right now, but all the fat asses. 1.00

00:42:22.140 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:22.680 Well, that's what we're getting at.

00:42:24.100 Oh my God. 1.00

00:42:24.720 So everyone's fat and stupid and brainwashed. 1.00

00:42:27.120 MKL, we're covering everything. 1.00

00:42:29.760 I'm going through the notes.

00:42:30.480 So pharmaceuticals.

00:42:31.540 So, you know, it's complicated, right?

00:42:35.240 Of course.

00:42:36.160 Yeah.

00:42:36.740 But what I'm saying is everybody's medicated.

00:42:39.180 Like, last year, 70 million people are.

00:42:40.980 So as a doctor, you have two things.

00:42:43.160 You have a prescription pad and you have a scalpel.

00:42:45.220 And that's about it.

00:42:45.920 Uh-oh.

00:42:46.740 That's about it.

00:42:47.440 No, that's true.

00:42:48.080 I don't really use a scalpel.

00:42:49.500 Right.

00:42:49.940 I use a prescription pad to change physiology, right?

00:42:53.140 Yes.

00:42:53.780 Most of what I prescribe is generic and cost pennies.

00:42:56.660 Right.

00:42:56.920 It just does.

00:42:57.840 What do you mean by physiology?

00:42:59.700 Well, it does change it.

00:43:00.520 As you get older, if you get an abnormal...

00:43:04.000 It begs the issue, what is an illness, right?

00:43:06.320 Uh-oh.

00:43:06.660 What is an illness?

00:43:07.360 So illness is an abnormal state of physiology.

00:43:10.320 Okay.

00:43:10.420 And I want to push that physiology back towards normal.

00:43:13.360 Okay.

00:43:13.760 I get what you mean.

00:43:15.020 Or I want to prevent some complication of that physiology.

00:43:18.700 So you're more about preventive, like total the whole picture.

00:43:23.120 I'm whatever is required.

00:43:24.620 Like, look, if you come in with hypertension, I don't want you to have a stroke.

00:43:28.260 I don't want you to have cardiomyopathy.

00:43:30.020 I don't really care about the cause of the hypertension.

00:43:32.400 I need to get that blood pressure out of control right now.

00:43:34.240 Right.

00:43:34.400 Now, there are things I look around for to see if there's an underlying cause.

00:43:38.460 It really doesn't change the treatment very much.

00:43:40.240 And the consequences are the result of the high blood pressure,

00:43:42.760 not the result of the narrowing of the renal artery, for instance.

00:43:45.880 And I'm not going to go in and do an angioplastia and renal artery.

00:43:48.640 I'm going to give you the Avipro, and I'm going to give you the amlodipine,

00:43:52.060 and I'm going to give you these things.

00:43:52.820 They're wonderful medicines that were invented by pharmaceutical companies,

00:43:55.980 and they made a lot of money on it, and then they lost their patent,

00:43:58.460 and now we can do it for pennies.

00:43:59.680 Right.

00:44:01.160 Wait.

00:44:01.600 What kind of a doctor are you exactly?

00:44:03.580 I'm an internist.

00:44:04.300 I'm an internist.

00:44:04.900 But I spent many years in psychiatry.

00:44:07.080 Oh, you did?

00:44:07.840 Because I thought you were something to do in psychiatry.

00:44:11.040 So I ran the medical services in a psychiatric hospital,

00:44:15.020 so I became very familiar, very astute to what you're talking about,

00:44:20.140 what the pharmaceuticals do and the excesses and the relationship

00:44:23.280 between the body and the psychiatric stuff.

00:44:25.280 That was my thing.

00:44:26.440 Then I ended up running their addiction services for 20 years.

00:44:29.220 So I was there at the crossroads of medicine and psychiatry.

00:44:32.060 Okay, so let me just say this again.

00:44:33.840 That's a lot of intersectionality.

00:44:36.480 It is.

00:44:37.220 It is.

00:44:37.680 Thank you for using that term.

00:44:39.280 It's really very pertinent to where I work.

00:44:41.160 Yes, I know.

00:44:42.320 And I also was doing straight medicine alongside that.

00:44:45.780 Well, I'm just saying, picture this. 1.00

00:44:48.100 You've got culturally, kids are dumber. 1.00

00:44:50.420 They're raised different. 1.00

00:44:51.620 People are on it. 1.00

00:44:51.960 I don't know the kids are dumber. 1.00

00:44:53.140 Well, this is my theory. 1.00

00:44:54.460 Yeah.

00:44:54.800 You have people that have been medicated since, let's say,

00:44:57.220 in the 80s it started going up.

00:44:58.400 People are on drugs that change your brain chemistry.

00:45:00.680 Yes.

00:45:00.820 You have difference in parenting, the feminist movement in the 80s. 1.00

00:45:03.140 A lot of things change.

00:45:03.980 Baby boomers. 0.95

00:45:04.860 Yes.

00:45:05.140 You had cultural change, you had drug changes, and then you have these millennials that are 1.00

00:45:09.260 raised, basically, I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I diagnosed millennials as having narcissistic 1.00

00:45:14.980 personality disorder when I used to podcast years ago.

00:45:16.940 It was a very funny episode.

00:45:17.880 Well, so-

00:45:18.300 But hold on, let me just say, so when you factor all that in, wouldn't that be why everything's 0.97

00:45:22.540 so fucked up now? 0.94

00:45:23.760 Is that these kids have now gone into positions of power? 1.00

00:45:27.000 They weren't raised with the golden rule.

00:45:29.720 I think what the PSYOP is-

00:45:31.620 That's what I think the PSYOP is, I guess.

00:45:33.180 The PSYOP is-

00:45:34.360 It's cultural.

00:45:35.160 That's what I think it is.

00:45:36.740 The PSYOP is, they're turning the kids into mindless warriors.

00:45:42.020 Right.

00:45:42.200 Yes.

00:45:42.560 That's what they want. 1.00

00:45:42.940 Useful idiots. 1.00

00:45:43.720 That's what Lenin thinks. 1.00

00:45:44.460 Well, they want them fighting each other in the street, and then half will kill the other

00:45:47.700 half, and they'll send whoever survives off to fight in the Ukraine.

00:45:51.660 But you're now imagining there's somebody doing that.

00:45:54.980 I'm here saying, this seems to be a cycle that we get into as humans.

00:45:58.200 Yes.

00:45:58.360 Because Lenin, Rose Pierre, you name it, it's come.

00:46:02.620 It definitely is a cycle.

00:46:03.960 It happens.

00:46:05.660 It's the degenerate power.

00:46:10.020 I see it as these childhood trauma cycles.

00:46:12.880 That's a major issue.

00:46:14.620 That's what I'm asking.

00:46:15.340 Is that what you think it is?

00:46:16.300 That's a part of it.

00:46:18.040 There's a pattern that repeats.

00:46:19.520 I think it is.

00:46:20.520 100%.

00:46:20.820 Something like that.

00:46:21.360 And also, when there's economic disparity and stuff, obviously, that makes it worse.

00:46:25.540 I could really blow your mind right now.

00:46:27.940 I can't wait.

00:46:28.540 But let me just say this one thing before you blow my mind.

00:46:31.360 Okay.

00:46:32.440 The biggest liability of narcissism, and the emotion about which there is injunctions against

00:46:41.800 in every scripture, and which is alive and well in America today, is envy. 0.99

00:46:47.880 Envy is a dangerous fucking emotion. 0.99

00:46:50.780 Yes, it is. 1.00

00:46:51.300 It's not jealousy.

00:46:52.720 Jealousy is, oh, Roseanne has a cool student here. 1.00

00:46:55.200 I'm going to work hard to get one, too.

00:46:56.620 That's jealous. 0.66

00:46:57.340 It makes me uncomfortable.

00:46:58.360 I want to do that.

00:46:59.580 Envy is, Roseanne had cool stuff here. 1.00

00:47:02.000 Fuck her. 1.00

00:47:02.520 I've got to destroy her. 1.00

00:47:03.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:47:03.720 That's envy.

00:47:04.100 Yeah, that's envy.

00:47:04.900 That's envy.

00:47:05.420 That's where the guillotines come. 1.00

00:47:06.660 That's where the scapegoatings come.

00:47:07.720 Now, blow my mind.

00:47:08.720 Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that.

00:47:11.840 Well, I'll blow both of yours all minds.

00:47:13.920 All right.

00:47:14.220 Because we were saying, like, how it's a pattern that always repeats, right?

00:47:23.060 Power in its ascension, and then in its, you know, dissembly.

00:47:28.280 Yes.

00:47:28.640 It always follows the same pattern.

00:47:31.640 We think.

00:47:32.100 The history kind of seems to.

00:47:33.800 It seems to.

00:47:34.580 At least modern history.

00:47:35.380 Since the 18th century.

00:47:37.900 Well, even the Roman Empire.

00:47:38.820 I've read the fourth turning.

00:47:39.580 Yeah, that's what it feels like.

00:47:40.620 It doesn't.

00:47:41.120 The fourth turning, to me, didn't quite.

00:47:42.540 Didn't hit it for you? 0.98

00:47:43.940 The concept hit it, but what the fuck's going on right now? 0.97

00:47:47.420 He completely missed it. 0.96

00:47:48.580 Like, he did not predict this.

00:47:50.720 No, that's true.

00:47:51.760 Yeah.

00:47:52.240 He said, you're supposed to save us.

00:47:53.980 What the hell's going on here?

00:47:54.620 That is a really good point.

00:47:55.600 What were you saying, sorry?

00:47:57.040 I don't even know what you were saying.

00:47:58.040 You were going to blow my mind.

00:47:58.960 You were going to blow his mind about patterns repeating.

00:48:01.240 Yeah.

00:48:01.940 Generational patterns through history.

00:48:03.520 Well, everything is patterns that repeat.

00:48:06.300 I mean, down to our atomic structure and our DNA, everything's that.

00:48:12.960 And why wouldn't we know that?

00:48:14.680 But, I mean, we're just so deluded and brainwashed and lied to.

00:48:20.720 Blow my mind.

00:48:21.960 Oh, I was going to say that things actually do repeat.

00:48:25.500 Yeah.

00:48:25.680 Because, you know, when you really, I asked you if you believed in God, so you had like

00:48:32.360 kind of a liberal answer.

00:48:33.860 No, I had a, I had a vague.

00:48:37.180 Well, it wasn't a religious.

00:48:38.620 Yeah, it was vague.

00:48:39.760 And that would be, that would fit.

00:48:41.220 I'm jealous of people that have a really vivid.

00:48:43.180 But you're not religious.

00:48:44.160 Like, you don't do something all the time.

00:48:46.140 No.

00:48:46.640 For the sake of doing it.

00:48:47.740 But I, listen, I've seen a lot of people at the end of life, and I really admire what

00:48:53.680 it does for people, particularly at the end of life. 0.99

00:48:55.700 It kind of racks your shit up. 0.99

00:48:57.820 It kind of racks your... 1.00

00:48:59.140 It helps you make sense of things.

00:49:00.300 Yes.

00:49:00.460 It helps you deal with the end of life.

00:49:02.740 Yeah.

00:49:03.180 It kind of answers everything.

00:49:04.640 Yeah.

00:49:04.740 It's, it is a racking up of like, you know, when you're going to go play pool and you

00:49:09.240 rack them up?

00:49:09.900 Oh, I see.

00:49:10.500 Yeah.

00:49:10.820 It racks them all up.

00:49:11.700 Gives you a little order.

00:49:12.880 A little order.

00:49:13.400 You're probably, am I right in guessing that you're just trying to say that this pattern

00:49:17.060 repeating is biblical?

00:49:18.720 Oh, yeah.

00:49:19.220 It's totally biblical.

00:49:19.940 That's where you're going.

00:49:20.340 Well, that's why the Bible has so much value.

00:49:23.420 It's because it's just a bunch of accumulated wisdom of human behavior over many thousands

00:49:27.000 of years.

00:49:27.520 Right.

00:49:27.740 Yes.

00:49:28.120 And why, and same with the, same with the Indian books.

00:49:30.900 Every book.

00:49:31.620 The Bhagavad Gita and the, any of those things.

00:49:34.660 These are just accumulated wisdom over time.

00:49:37.440 Right.

00:49:37.620 Because that's all humans had to understand themselves.

00:49:39.520 Right.

00:49:40.180 They just write stuff down and go, you know, it is said that three generations ago, they

00:49:43.980 used to do this.

00:49:44.840 And they'd go, oh, we should learn from that.

00:49:47.520 Yeah.

00:49:47.720 Like tribal elders. 0.90

00:49:49.640 Yeah.

00:49:49.820 And like wise people.

00:49:52.540 We don't have that anymore.

00:49:53.360 And we would carry it forward.

00:49:54.780 We'd carry it and look at it.

00:49:56.000 Something to pass on.

00:49:56.460 And boy, the patterns are always there.

00:49:58.760 And you think, you think it's trauma, childhood trauma.

00:50:01.100 Well, I think these, I think in the modern era, I think this, this tendency towards mobs

00:50:09.340 and this thing that hit France and pre-revolutionary Russia and seems to grip us right now.

00:50:14.220 The odd thing is that it seems to grip the world right now.

00:50:16.380 Yeah.

00:50:16.700 It's the first time I've seen it.

00:50:17.320 That's what I don't understand.

00:50:18.360 I think I understand this country.

00:50:19.700 I don't understand the world.

00:50:20.300 That's, I think, where social media comes in.

00:50:21.920 How the world got involved with this is odd.

00:50:24.600 It's very odd.

00:50:25.220 I think that social media was like invented because they wanted to do something with it.

00:50:29.940 Yeah.

00:50:30.120 They?

00:50:30.520 Obviously, yeah.

00:50:31.120 The empty ultra guys?

00:50:32.520 Well, yeah.

00:50:33.180 Yeah.

00:50:33.540 The owners.

00:50:34.560 The owners.

00:50:35.260 Yeah.

00:50:35.660 The tippy top of the pyramid.

00:50:37.320 But you're kind of dancing around having a revelation that you're going to see.

00:50:41.120 With the owners?

00:50:42.020 Kind of.

00:50:42.620 I've been, that's what I've been trying to build this up to.

00:50:44.340 Because you say things like, oh, I don't think everybody could be this organized.

00:50:47.880 But then you cite these historical events that was just a few owners that were in control.

00:50:52.340 No, no, no.

00:50:53.240 It's people.

00:50:54.200 No, no, no.

00:50:54.680 We talked about Nazis and the Germans coming here.

00:50:57.860 And you said, were they really Nazis?

00:50:58.880 Well, they were following orders.

00:51:00.780 They weren't in charge.

00:51:01.920 You guys would like him.

00:51:03.740 He's a cognitive psychologist.

00:51:06.420 How do you say it?

00:51:07.420 C-H-A-N-G-I-Z-I. 1.00

00:51:09.760 C-H-A-N-K-E-Z. 1.00

00:51:11.160 And his, I adhere to something he was suggesting, which is that there are always sociopaths.

00:51:18.100 There are always narcissists.

00:51:19.440 There are always, what do you call them?

00:51:21.860 The people, what do you call them?

00:51:22.960 The up the ups?

00:51:23.520 The people at the top?

00:51:25.500 Your name for the owners?

00:51:26.540 The owners.

00:51:27.080 The owners.

00:51:27.520 There's always owners around.

00:51:29.160 But they can't really do much until we get swept into a mob and then they take full advantage of it.

00:51:34.580 They can't create the mob.

00:51:35.900 They can't create the mob action.

00:51:37.300 Right.

00:51:37.620 But there are people around that always take advantage.

00:51:40.180 Robespierre.

00:51:40.920 What do you name it?

00:51:41.720 They've been around.

00:51:42.620 And you don't think that's happening today?

00:51:44.920 I do think that's happening now.

00:51:45.980 But you think it's conspiratorial.

00:51:47.520 No, I don't think.

00:51:48.300 I just, I think, I think it's just these people are always around and now they're doing their

00:51:52.000 thing because we are sick. 0.58

00:51:53.860 We're not well.

00:51:54.540 Right.

00:51:55.100 I think that's what she's talking about.

00:51:56.360 Okay.

00:51:56.640 Oh, so you're, the differentiation is that you're saying they're not making everyone go

00:52:00.800 No.

00:52:00.960 No, we have moved into this thing and then they just take advantage of it.

00:52:04.400 Oh, okay.

00:52:04.600 And those kinds of people.

00:52:05.120 He's saying they're opportunistic.

00:52:06.240 You're saying they're making it up.

00:52:08.300 That they're premeditated.

00:52:09.280 Yeah.

00:52:09.760 They're premeditated and they're brilliant.

00:52:12.180 Yeah.

00:52:12.640 He's saying no. 1.00

00:52:13.280 They write all their shit right out for you to read. 1.00

00:52:15.540 I read it. 1.00

00:52:16.220 It's brilliant.

00:52:16.940 Who?

00:52:17.040 Who?

00:52:17.800 Like, you know.

00:52:18.860 Give them one example.

00:52:20.140 Okay.

00:52:20.620 Like Klaus Schwab and his Igor, that little guy.

00:52:24.820 What's his name?

00:52:25.460 Igor.

00:52:25.820 I just call him Igor.

00:52:26.920 There are, there is this weird.

00:52:29.280 That little group that runs everything.

00:52:31.940 The World Economic Forum we're talking about.

00:52:33.360 Yeah.

00:52:33.660 The World Economic Forum.

00:52:35.540 And also that includes, of course, everything, Jeffrey Epstein.

00:52:40.800 You know, it's huge.

00:52:43.380 It is running the whole Western world.

00:52:45.600 All that grift.

00:52:47.300 Well, it's a currency.

00:52:48.360 You know, it is.

00:52:49.580 Well, there's aspects of what you're saying that I would have had no sense of what you're

00:52:53.420 talking about, except I think I've seen a little bit of it lately.

00:52:56.580 That's sort of shocking to me.

00:52:57.840 But yeah, there's, that I see what you're talking about.

00:53:00.680 Let's put it that way.

00:53:01.720 Okay.

00:53:02.260 That I've seen sort of evidence of MKUltra style things going on where I go, what?

00:53:07.900 Why can't we, what are you talking, what's going on here?

00:53:09.920 You know what?

00:53:10.640 God always puts me in the weirdest places.

00:53:14.300 Because I know it isn't me.

00:53:15.860 Because I'm not that smart.

00:53:17.180 Okay.

00:53:18.200 Where does he put you now?

00:53:19.000 Well, no, I was just, I'm always in a place where I hear people talking and it blows my 0.99

00:53:25.800 mind the shit they say. 0.99

00:53:28.500 Because the one thing about me is I have been able to worm my way into some fancy swanky 1.00

00:53:34.400 joints.

00:53:35.220 Yeah.

00:53:35.860 I love when you talk.

00:53:36.880 Yes, you have.

00:53:37.880 Tell me about what happens in those swanky joints. 1.00

00:53:39.760 I hear some shit. 1.00

00:53:41.000 What did you hear? 1.00

00:53:41.800 I heard a lot.

00:53:43.460 They might come get you if you tell us.

00:53:46.060 Huh?

00:53:46.220 They might come get you if you tell us.

00:53:47.620 Oh, hell yes, they would.

00:53:48.780 But I just go, wow.

00:53:53.080 Now, what are you going to, you know, how?

00:53:55.640 It's true.

00:53:55.880 I hear stuff like that.

00:53:56.660 I get to be around some swanky things too.

00:53:58.420 And I've heard things that I go, nah.

00:54:01.620 And then, yeah, it turned out to be, yeah.

00:54:03.720 Right?

00:54:04.160 But not out of this world stuff.

00:54:06.260 I don't hear things that blow my mind.

00:54:08.900 There are things that I think, oh man, there's a lot going on that I don't know about.

00:54:12.180 There's a lot of stuff.

00:54:13.000 And I wish I could, like, just look at Dr. Fauci's behavior.

00:54:15.360 He was my hero my whole career.

00:54:16.860 Oh no, really?

00:54:18.600 He said was.

00:54:19.200 And then all of a sudden, and all of a sudden, he starts behaving strangely and saying strange

00:54:24.320 things and being defensive about things he should be able to easily answer.

00:54:27.760 And all my head goes is like, what is he trying to, what?

00:54:31.260 Did you see him speak when he started going haywire like that?

00:54:35.180 Or did you see him on the internet?

00:54:37.960 I didn't see it in person.

00:54:39.100 Okay.

00:54:39.380 I saw it on TV or something.

00:54:40.740 But I want to hear that.

00:54:41.280 And he was, you know, if somebody asked a simple question, can you go to a church meeting

00:54:47.760 or can you go to a Black Lives Matter thing?

00:54:49.500 He should have gone, both are fine or both are no good.

00:54:51.380 That's it, period.

00:54:52.380 I worry about transmission of the virus in both or none.

00:54:56.300 That's it.

00:54:56.940 Yeah.

00:54:57.040 But he went, I don't understand what you're talking about.

00:54:59.080 I don't understand what you're talking about.

00:55:00.660 I don't understand what you're asking me.

00:55:02.040 That was like, dude, I know you.

00:55:03.640 You're a brilliant dude.

00:55:05.420 What is going on?

00:55:07.140 To me, it felt like he was scared.

00:55:08.640 Some of these conspiracy theorists that I hear about, they say Fauci was took out and murdered

00:55:16.780 in Guantanamo and a clown replaced him or a guy in a mask.

00:55:23.460 Well, I don't think so.

00:55:24.120 That's editorializing.

00:55:24.880 That's going a little far for me.

00:55:25.620 That's what they say on the internet.

00:55:27.080 Okay, well, good.

00:55:29.240 No, I think you're more onto it.

00:55:32.060 He was scared.

00:55:33.700 And so I asked Rand Paul this today.

00:55:35.300 I went, what could these people that are together not answering questions about what we now know

00:55:41.900 for sure was going on and how we manipulated viruses and where the funding was coming.

00:55:46.720 It's all there.

00:55:47.720 Rand's been calling.

00:55:48.280 Why won't they answer questions about it?

00:55:50.520 And I asked him, I said, is there some reason that they could remain quiet that's justified?

00:55:55.660 Is there something they know that we shouldn't know that'll fuck a lot of people up or something?

00:56:00.440 And he really didn't have an answer for me. 0.89

00:56:02.500 And so that's where my head goes.

00:56:04.480 So you don't think that they're all like either clones or totally blackmailed operatives

00:56:14.640 that are doing what they're told to do by China and the other people that own our government?

00:56:20.460 Again, I have a woman I interview frequently called Li Meng Yan, who's a brilliant virologist, 0.93

00:56:28.240 physician, and was working on the coronavirus for the People's Liberation Army.

00:56:35.360 And isn't that a nice euphemism for what goes on in China?

00:56:38.340 And when I hear some of that, it makes my skin kind of really crawl.

00:56:41.100 And whenever I would see her attack, just recently I saw her attack on Twitter, and I went,

00:56:49.220 oh, that looks like a, I just tweeted back, does anybody think this is a Chinese operative

00:56:53.400 here?

00:56:53.680 It's obviously.

00:56:55.420 25 minutes later, big videos appear about me.

00:56:58.600 Wow.

00:56:59.460 If the air did, with making it look like I'm saying certain things that I've never said.

00:57:03.480 And I thought, oh, wow, they're really, they are on it.

00:57:06.580 They're here.

00:57:07.060 Oh, yeah.

00:57:07.880 They're 24-7 on the road trip.

00:57:10.500 They're around.

00:57:10.780 So, you know.

00:57:11.740 I like when Swalwell's girlfriend, Fang Fang, all of a sudden she comes back. 0.96

00:57:17.560 Next day she's dead in a plane crash.

00:57:19.600 Yeah.

00:57:20.020 It happened.

00:57:20.240 Poor Fang Fang. 1.00

00:57:22.240 It's all, I just think it's all made up. 0.99

00:57:24.880 Every goddamn bit of it. 1.00

00:57:27.320 It's all bullshit. 1.00

00:57:28.960 100% unified field of bullshit. 1.00

00:57:32.900 From where? 1.00

00:57:33.600 Where to where?

00:57:34.100 I mean, do we believe the founding fathers?

00:57:36.100 Do we believe the...

00:57:36.660 Oh, well, we want that back.

00:57:38.260 Of course, we love it. 0.50

00:57:39.060 But they were not foolish yet. 0.97

00:57:40.160 They were... 0.99

00:57:40.720 No, they were.

00:57:41.480 No, I'm talking about the people in power right now.

00:57:44.540 So, the people in power now, it's hard to know.

00:57:47.580 Well, I had an experience.

00:57:49.860 It's not hard to know at all.

00:57:52.480 Here's what I call them.

00:57:54.120 It's the pedo ponzi priest class. 0.96

00:57:59.360 Pedo ponzi pirate used to say. 0.99

00:58:00.860 The pedo ponzi pirate priest class of pharaonic feudalism. 0.94

00:58:09.500 Okay. 0.76

00:58:10.900 What's the pharaonic, like pharaohs?

00:58:12.960 Pharaoh.

00:58:17.640 Again... 1.00

00:58:18.120 They want their fucking feudalism back. 1.00

00:58:20.340 I can't wait to have you back on in four years when you totally know about all this shit. 1.00

00:58:23.840 You're like, God, four years ago? 1.00

00:58:24.880 I thought you were crazy.

00:58:26.260 That would be phenomenal.

00:58:27.200 Nothing would make me happier.

00:58:29.480 No.

00:58:29.660 They want their feudalism...

00:58:31.080 Because that would help me make sense of a lot of stuff.

00:58:32.680 No.

00:58:33.160 Because they just want their feudalism back.

00:58:35.880 The pharaohs, the royals, the British Empire.

00:58:38.760 Well, you said upstairs, we were talking a little bit.

00:58:39.980 I was talking about how social media is a democratization.

00:58:42.580 Our ability to do things like this.

00:58:44.040 It's like, from a little studio, you can reach many people.

00:58:47.420 But you said you're against democracy.

00:58:49.260 Oh, yeah.

00:58:50.040 I said it's a very deep subject.

00:58:52.280 Because Victor Hugo, I believe it was, it said democracy, is two wolves and a lamb voting

00:59:01.180 on what to have for lunch.

00:59:04.660 Two, okay.

00:59:06.480 And I do think that it is, it does have a lot of mob rule to it.

00:59:11.920 Yes.

00:59:12.160 And the commies love using the word democracy, you know, because they can pretend that those

00:59:22.600 two things are the same, which they are not.

00:59:26.020 Well, I have, I adhere to the positions of the founding fathers, which is they had deep,

00:59:33.340 profound concerns about democracy, which is why they established a republic.

00:59:38.460 That's right.

00:59:38.760 Exactly.

00:59:39.200 And a representative, checks and balances, not a direct democracy.

00:59:43.680 And yet here in California, we have essentially a direct democracy, and we see how that runs

00:59:47.000 amok all the time.

00:59:48.620 Because, you know, I think everyone here, probably 85% voted to overthrow Newsom.

00:59:55.980 But, you know, as long as they, I mean, if people can't see that without paper ballots,

01:00:00.660 it's all a wash, they can change all the votes they want.

01:00:04.140 Once they say, it's who counts the votes that matters.

01:00:06.640 Well, that's what Stalin's. 0.90

01:00:08.320 He's talking about corruption.

01:00:09.180 Well, hello.

01:00:10.680 You don't think it's corrupt that we go blow up the rack and then rebuild it, blow it up

01:00:16.100 again, rebuild it, blow it up again, rebuild it, blow it up again. 0.68

01:00:19.720 The only people making money are the military contractors, for God's sake.

01:00:25.500 I have not signed up as a, you know, somebody that formally supports, but I have been fascinated

01:00:33.000 by RFK Jr.

01:00:34.520 Yeah.

01:00:34.820 And some of his insights that I, that he, he blew my mind.

01:00:38.280 He blows my mind, too.

01:00:39.700 And when I listened and I thought about some of the stuff, it enlightened me.

01:00:43.660 It changed my perspective.

01:00:44.960 Yeah, he's very deep on the vaccine stuff, especially.

01:00:48.240 On the, the, the general coziness between regulators and industry.

01:00:54.380 And that's what fascism was.

01:00:56.520 That is what it is.

01:00:57.920 Fascism was a corporate government unification.

01:01:00.820 That's exactly what it is.

01:01:01.760 Under a totalitarian, what?

01:01:03.360 They.

01:01:03.800 That's the they. 0.99

01:01:04.520 That's the they. 0.99

01:01:05.440 That's the, one of the they's. 0.98

01:01:06.740 And you know, they say there's only 25,000 of them in the world doing all this, programming

01:01:12.520 all these things that go into each other, using their computers to go, oh, okay, Facebook's

01:01:18.080 going to take this.

01:01:19.120 And then, you know, it's just dividing up the information.

01:01:21.520 There is, there is this kind of weird.

01:01:22.900 Well, the, the thing I blow in my mind more than anything is this, this centralization

01:01:26.520 of authority.

01:01:27.340 Right.

01:01:27.480 That, that is the enemy.

01:01:29.080 Yes.

01:01:29.440 Bureaucrats were the enemy. 0.99

01:01:30.840 Bureaucracy's the enemy.

01:01:31.580 But centralizing authority and things like medicine.

01:01:33.940 Yeah.

01:01:34.180 And, you know, it's just, you can't, the federal government was a, essentially just a way of

01:01:41.400 agreeing amongst the states to have a more perfect union.

01:01:44.360 Right.

01:01:44.580 And to have somebody give us a common defense, a common currency, and some interstate commerce.

01:01:48.540 That's it.

01:01:48.980 That's it.

01:01:49.480 That's the federal government.

01:01:50.700 That's right.

01:01:51.220 And the fact that people look for it now for like solving all of our problems, it's just

01:01:54.940 like, oh, boy.

01:01:55.360 Oh, and plus they're so, they lie about everything.

01:01:58.880 And then if anyone even wants to present the opposite side of which there are always two

01:02:05.240 sides.

01:02:05.740 Of course.

01:02:06.300 If not three.

01:02:06.740 That's what makes things fun and interesting.

01:02:08.140 To everything.

01:02:08.380 Yes.

01:02:09.140 And instead they just demonize all opposition and censor it right off the face of the earth. 0.96

01:02:13.940 Well, you're a bad person. 0.57

01:02:14.740 Yes.

01:02:14.840 If you do these ad hominem attacks, which is really, that's dangerous.

01:02:18.160 That's so you get people hurt.

01:02:19.040 Well, that's how they de-platform people and they can't, you know, they've lost everything.

01:02:24.520 They have no money.

01:02:26.380 They can't make any money.

01:02:27.720 I know.

01:02:28.180 One of the things that COVID has done though is taught people that people that were demonized

01:02:33.300 and were condemned and were canceled can be right.

01:02:37.400 Well, that's true.

01:02:38.400 And so they're learning that, oh, maybe we'd be a little more cautious with who we condemn

01:02:42.700 as a bad person or off base completely.

01:02:45.220 Well, I think it is when you're over the target, you get condemned.

01:02:48.180 Yeah.

01:02:48.740 It certainly seems to be the pattern.

01:02:50.560 Right?

01:02:51.020 Yeah.

01:02:51.800 I notice that's what happens to me when I get near something that I may be not quite

01:02:56.420 right, but if I'm getting near something, something that people want to protect for usually spurious

01:03:03.080 reasons, that's when they get very aggressive.

01:03:05.400 Don't you think that all they really want to protect is the information that implicates

01:03:10.920 them in crimes?

01:03:12.700 I see.

01:03:13.700 I don't go there.

01:03:14.780 I don't go there.

01:03:15.480 You go right there.

01:03:16.240 Well, you're younger than me.

01:03:18.180 I'm naive, is what you're saying.

01:03:21.280 But I am concerned about the World Economic Forum.

01:03:23.240 I mean, that kind of centralization, international.

01:03:25.540 You've seen that treaty they want on health care?

01:03:27.640 Mm-hmm.

01:03:27.960 I am profoundly concerned about that.

01:03:29.780 Yeah.

01:03:30.240 They want authority over all elected officials, all sovereign officials.

01:03:34.860 Yeah.

01:03:35.880 We just went through something horrible because things were overly centralized.

01:03:39.820 Mm-hmm.

01:03:40.100 Now you want to take it to an international scale?

01:03:41.940 Here's what's funny about it, is that the United States funds that.

01:03:46.860 That whole thing.

01:03:47.680 I know.

01:03:47.980 I can't believe it.

01:03:48.900 Like the people in our government are the ones that are making it happen, and then forcing

01:03:54.140 the taxpayers to foot the bill.

01:03:55.760 That is not conspiratorial to start thinking about all the things that our money does.

01:04:01.900 Bing.

01:04:02.780 That's concerning.

01:04:03.900 There's all kinds of things I don't want my money to do.

01:04:05.900 A lot of things that our government spends my money on that is just like-

01:04:09.280 People pay their taxes for roads, schools, hospitals, and things like that, protection from the police. 0.94

01:04:16.580 They are getting jack shit of that. 0.73

01:04:19.600 But you know what? 0.99

01:04:20.200 They're building a whole place over there in the Ukraine for all the criminals, and when 0.99

01:04:25.080 Trump gets back in and runs their asses in prison, they're going to go over there to 1.00

01:04:29.480 the fucking Ukraine or Dubai on our tax money to escape getting implicated for being pedophiles. 1.00

01:04:36.280 That's what I think. 1.00

01:04:38.040 Interesting.

01:04:38.500 Or priests or pirates.

01:04:39.980 All of it.

01:04:40.500 All of it. 0.98

01:04:41.640 Thieves.

01:04:41.920 What are we talking about? 0.98

01:04:43.200 The thieves.

01:04:44.020 They steal the public's money and put it into private pockets.

01:04:50.180 You know, it's interesting.

01:04:51.020 It's like anti-capitalism socialism.

01:04:54.580 Yeah.

01:04:54.840 Yes.

01:04:55.340 And it's also like not really socialism or not really communism either.

01:05:00.300 It's mafia capitalism.

01:05:00.700 Yeah, you're right.

01:05:02.200 That's true.

01:05:02.880 It's kind of a weird-

01:05:03.840 A billionaire socialist? 0.99

01:05:05.680 What the fuck is that? 1.00

01:05:07.280 Yeah, right. 1.00

01:05:08.500 Isn't that weird?

01:05:10.580 Right?

01:05:11.180 Right.

01:05:11.620 That is an oxymoron.

01:05:13.840 Right?

01:05:14.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:15.300 So what is your family of origins story?

01:05:18.920 How'd they get to this country?

01:05:20.100 They're Jews. 0.96

01:05:21.100 From?

01:05:21.380 The Jewiest of all the Jews. 1.00

01:05:23.800 From dirty Jews. 1.00

01:05:26.120 From where? 1.00

01:05:27.100 Lithuania.

01:05:27.800 They were very clean obsessively so.

01:05:29.720 Uh-oh.

01:05:31.440 From where?

01:05:32.520 Well, they came from all over, really.

01:05:34.760 Eastern European.

01:05:36.340 You're Russian. 0.91

01:05:37.680 Russian.

01:05:38.720 I'm going to bet you not Russian. 1.00

01:05:40.540 Because I was told Russian my whole life too.

01:05:42.720 No, my grandfather was from Kiev.

01:05:46.480 It's Ukraine or Belarus.

01:05:48.680 It's Ukraine or Belarus.

01:05:49.760 Okay, I'm sorry.

01:05:50.020 It's not Russia. 0.79

01:05:50.880 My grandfather told me we were Russians.

01:05:53.120 Same here.

01:05:53.880 I was told my whole life Russian.

01:05:55.380 And then before my uncle died, I started getting more information.

01:05:57.960 It turned out Belarus, Ukraine.

01:05:59.720 And if you look, if you do your 23andMe, they give you, they show you where your ancestors came from.

01:06:04.780 Yeah, we did do that.

01:06:06.180 And you'll see the diaspora from the Ukraine.

01:06:08.260 We, you and I, our family got away from the Holodomor.

01:06:12.420 That's why we're here.

01:06:14.000 We would have died of famine if we had stayed under Stalin's situation.

01:06:19.140 And somehow our family had the good sense to leave their homeland.

01:06:23.460 Oh, they killed all my family in Lithuania. 1.00

01:06:26.540 Buried the whole town alive of Jews. 1.00

01:06:28.900 Okay, well, they didn't make it.

01:06:30.340 So they're not the ones that are here.

01:06:31.300 Well, my grandmother and her two sisters did make it to the U.S.

01:06:35.320 But she lost... 0.85

01:06:36.600 And she's Lithuanian.

01:06:37.280 She lost nine siblings and all the rest of the family.

01:06:40.000 And that was part of Stalin again? 0.58

01:06:41.940 Or what was that?

01:06:42.560 That was the Nazis. 0.92

01:06:44.320 The Nazis. 0.71

01:06:44.800 The Nazis. 0.71

01:06:45.360 So that came quite a bit later.

01:06:47.380 Yeah, but she was stuck in between not quite the Nazis and the 1917 revolution.

01:06:55.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:56.420 So it was like everybody was coming for the Jews. 0.88

01:06:58.980 The Jews were coming for the Jews. 1.00

01:07:00.900 It's why we're here. 0.97

01:07:01.580 The socialist Jews hated the religious Jews.

01:07:03.420 Have you read the white... 0.99

01:07:04.580 The cosmopolitan Jews hated the farmer Jews. 1.00

01:07:07.220 Have you read the white pill by Michael Malice?

01:07:09.420 Please get that from me.

01:07:09.940 Oh, no.

01:07:10.500 He's one of my...

01:07:11.660 Oh, I love Michael Malice.

01:07:12.900 I have it.

01:07:13.480 Yeah, I know about it.

01:07:14.840 Yeah.

01:07:15.420 He goes over this history quite detailed.

01:07:18.580 Yeah.

01:07:18.800 And it's why we're here.

01:07:21.100 And so, you know, when people talk about privilege and stuff, I think, Jesus, my family, man.

01:07:27.920 Yeah, there's no privilege.

01:07:29.020 They got here.

01:07:30.380 They were survivors.

01:07:31.580 Yeah.

01:07:31.740 They got here and they were given...

01:07:33.460 This country saved my family.

01:07:35.260 Yeah.

01:07:35.880 My other side, they...

01:07:37.640 So they, yeah, were Ukrainian, Lithuanian, and others of them came from Poland.

01:07:44.020 Yeah.

01:07:44.400 Which was the same kind of thing.

01:07:46.180 Yeah.

01:07:46.480 And then...

01:07:46.920 And also, like, they went as far as Spain and Portugal, too.

01:07:51.480 So I have all that.

01:07:52.840 But the 23andMe was amazing because it showed that we had North African roots, which I had

01:07:59.280 always all my life known.

01:08:01.760 Have you been there?

01:08:03.480 Oh, yeah.

01:08:04.520 Subsequently to my fame and getting some dough, you know.

01:08:08.060 What'd you do down there?

01:08:10.200 Shop for rugs in Marrakesh.

01:08:12.560 Oh, you went to Marrakesh.

01:08:13.340 So you just toured around North Africa?

01:08:15.080 Yeah.

01:08:15.480 I was there.

01:08:17.040 I went for more.

01:08:17.540 Well, she went with that.

01:08:18.180 Yeah.

01:08:18.240 I went...

01:08:18.780 I only went there once.

01:08:19.140 Because I'm a Jewy Jew Jewy.

01:08:21.800 Yeah.

01:08:22.360 And so I went on the religious retreat of the whole area, you know.

01:08:27.140 The whole Levant.

01:08:28.700 Sort of the...

01:08:29.780 The holy places.

01:08:30.640 Sephardic retreat kind of thing?

01:08:31.880 Yeah.

01:08:32.380 Got it.

01:08:32.720 The holy places of...

01:08:34.400 You know, where the prophets and such are buried and stuff like that.

01:08:38.680 So I did all that.

01:08:39.860 That was cool to see it.

01:08:41.440 See all those places where...

01:08:43.020 See, this is what...

01:08:44.340 This...

01:08:44.580 We're getting into stuff.

01:08:45.400 But it doesn't surprise me.

01:08:46.220 We are.

01:08:46.520 That this is what I...

01:08:48.000 Kind of almost breaks my heart.

01:08:49.820 That we don't have a country filled with people that appreciate history and the past.

01:08:55.840 They have no...

01:08:56.640 They don't give a deal.

01:08:57.460 They don't even know.

01:08:57.520 They have no idea.

01:08:58.200 No.

01:08:58.400 And, you know, we lived through the 70s.

01:09:01.480 I remember the 70s when everyone announced, we figured it out.

01:09:04.080 We know now.

01:09:06.320 All those... 1.00

01:09:07.400 Penn Station, that beautiful old building, that's a piece of shit. 1.00

01:09:10.580 We need to build some 60s Soviet-style building on top of it. 1.00

01:09:15.120 Right.

01:09:15.240 And that's the future.

01:09:16.840 Right.

01:09:17.100 We went through this when we decided that everything old was bad and the past had no meaning to

01:09:21.900 us.

01:09:22.060 That was us.

01:09:23.200 Yes.

01:09:23.460 That was our generation.

01:09:24.200 Absolutely.

01:09:24.840 Absolutely.

01:09:25.020 Absolutely.

01:09:25.200 And it was a gigantic mistake.

01:09:27.180 And none of us ever thought we'd see it again.

01:09:28.700 And kind of here we are in more, worse.

01:09:31.620 Think about what...

01:09:33.080 You know, that's like part of the whole brainwashing, too.

01:09:36.800 Because, you know, I think that the MKUltra...

01:09:39.520 I mean, it always leads into the Stalinist.

01:09:43.020 They're always so much the same thing, you know?

01:09:45.540 I just read a Lenin biography.

01:09:47.520 It's really...

01:09:47.960 It's him.

01:09:49.200 He really was the driving force. 1.00

01:09:51.140 Stalin was just a useful idiot, really. 0.99

01:09:53.680 I mean, he just perfected what Lenin was setting up. 1.00

01:09:56.200 Lenin was a horrible human being. 0.99

01:10:00.660 The worst. 1.00

01:10:01.200 The worst.

01:10:02.160 And he had it all figured out.

01:10:04.640 He is...

01:10:05.620 When you said earlier, knowing the difference between a good person and a bad person, that's

01:10:08.900 not a good person.

01:10:09.560 Yes, an ultimate tyrant, a little pharaoh, a little Hitler, right? 0.93

01:10:14.800 He just... 0.99

01:10:16.360 He didn't really give a shit about people. 0.99

01:10:19.300 No. 0.99

01:10:19.860 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:20.600 And yet he gave a shit about this... 1.00

01:10:21.980 Starved millions. 1.00

01:10:23.280 Well, that's Stalin again. 0.76

01:10:24.580 That's really Stalin. 0.71

01:10:25.300 Well, he... 0.57

01:10:25.980 Lenin starved them accidentally, because he was incompetent, sort of.

01:10:29.020 Yeah, but he starved them.

01:10:30.420 Yeah, it's true.

01:10:31.380 A lot of people did.

01:10:32.280 They're all, like, horrible.

01:10:34.660 Creepy. 0.97

01:10:36.720 Those leaders?

01:10:37.220 Are they Russians?

01:10:38.780 Who?

01:10:39.360 Lenin?

01:10:39.980 Lenin.

01:10:40.440 Was he Russian?

01:10:42.040 I think so.

01:10:43.260 I don't know my history as well as you do, but I'm... 1.00

01:10:44.820 Shit. 0.99

01:10:45.460 I remember reading about his origin. 1.00

01:10:47.680 I was thinking...

01:10:48.400 Ooh, there's a little something going on here.

01:10:51.580 A little different about his origin.

01:10:52.820 You can look up at it.

01:10:53.580 But, uh...

01:10:55.260 Well...

01:10:55.940 But he had, you know, his brother got, you know, killed.

01:10:58.040 Russian, revolutionary, Russian...

01:10:59.400 Is he Russian, Russian, Russian all the way?

01:11:01.920 From what I...

01:11:02.860 He was... 1.00

01:11:03.200 They do some weird shit, the Russians. 1.00

01:11:04.880 Let's go to his biography. 1.00

01:11:05.420 What do you think of Putin?

01:11:08.200 I mean, talk about somebody that seems to like feudalism.

01:11:11.900 That seems to be his thing.

01:11:13.060 He was born in Moscow, yeah.

01:11:13.860 He's like the richest man in the world.

01:11:15.620 He's not?

01:11:16.340 He is.

01:11:17.240 That's what I figured.

01:11:18.800 He's got more money than Elon Musk.

01:11:21.240 Yeah.

01:11:21.980 I just read Elon's biography, too.

01:11:23.620 I read lots of biographies.

01:11:25.140 That's how I really studied history.

01:11:26.620 The Elon Musk biography was fantastic.

01:11:28.940 Oh, I gotta get it, then.

01:11:30.400 I have...

01:11:30.460 He...

01:11:30.920 He...

01:11:31.240 You'll talk about Autista.

01:11:32.480 You will love him.

01:11:34.380 He is...

01:11:35.520 I have so much admiration for him.

01:11:38.380 I'm obsessed.

01:11:38.980 I do, too.

01:11:39.620 Now, he's not a great guy in the sense you'd want to hug him or hang around him.

01:11:44.260 But, man, do I have admiration for that guy.

01:11:46.980 I think he's awesome.

01:11:48.360 I think he's very brave. 1.00

01:11:49.940 When he said, go fuck yourself from the state. 1.00

01:11:51.440 Oh, did you love that? 1.00

01:11:52.440 I loved it.

01:11:53.560 And I was reading the biography at the time, and I thought, oh, this is...

01:11:56.760 Particularly when he said, is that clear?

01:11:58.540 Because that's just him.

01:11:59.380 He's just...

01:11:59.780 He fires and hires and just keeps moving forward and doing stuff.

01:12:03.900 And his compass is just due north at all times.

01:12:07.180 And he just keeps moving.

01:12:08.840 And you gotta keep up with him.

01:12:09.960 And yet, as I always say, and yet...

01:12:12.140 And yet.

01:12:12.480 When it rains, because I have a Tesla, when it rains, then you'll get in your car, you

01:12:18.800 know, and roll down the window, and the rain comes right onto your leg.

01:12:23.180 Oh, yeah.

01:12:23.880 So, the design is quite right.

01:12:24.740 You'd think he would have designed the fuck out of...

01:12:26.140 If you were to tell him, he'd probably... 0.79

01:12:27.620 I'd always say it.

01:12:29.320 But I think he may be one of these people that don't want to hear any dissent.

01:12:34.720 Oh, no.

01:12:35.060 He is all about better, better, better, better, and who made this decision and why.

01:12:40.680 All about that.

01:12:41.560 Constantly.

01:12:41.960 Well, he better do something with those windows.

01:12:44.140 Maybe it's an older version, no?

01:12:46.660 I don't know.

01:12:47.580 It's like four years.

01:12:47.880 Because he's always, always, always changing stuff.

01:12:50.460 Always.

01:12:50.780 I'm sure if you...

01:12:51.360 I don't like the way that you push this button to open the glove compartment either.

01:12:56.240 I'm almost going to get a truck just because I admire him so much.

01:12:58.880 I want to get a truck, too.

01:12:59.820 I don't really want the truck, but I'm just going to do it because I admire him so much.

01:13:03.220 I invested so much of my money in him, and I made so much money.

01:13:09.000 And you know what?

01:13:09.960 It's just endless.

01:13:11.480 The investing in anything he does is endless.

01:13:15.040 He's in business with everyone on earth.

01:13:17.460 You know what's interesting?

01:13:18.420 He, in the book, Bill Gates comes to him and goes, dude, you should be philanthropic.

01:13:23.100 You need to...

01:13:24.000 And Musk goes, show me what you're doing with your money.

01:13:26.580 And he goes, well, here are the top five things. 0.99

01:13:28.160 And then he goes, that's dumb. 0.93

01:13:30.800 I can do so much more building businesses, so much more humanity and creating jobs financially 1.00

01:13:38.640 for the world and also solve way more problems than you solve with this sleepy bullshit. 0.99

01:13:43.740 I thought, oh, yes. 1.00

01:13:44.920 I like that.

01:13:46.240 That's great.

01:13:46.600 Just keep building, man.

01:13:47.600 Keep building companies.

01:13:48.700 Keep doing stuff.

01:13:49.080 Yeah, he's a builder.

01:13:49.580 We didn't talk about vaccine.

01:13:51.200 Oh, let's go there.

01:13:52.060 We haven't gotten me all the way in trouble.

01:13:53.260 Yeah.

01:13:53.560 No, let's do that.

01:13:54.640 And then I want to hear a little bit more about Fauci because you never really told me.

01:13:57.560 Okay.

01:13:58.120 We need to talk about the wellness company?

01:13:59.500 We do have to do the wellness company right now.

01:14:00.800 Okay.

01:14:01.300 Oh, okay.

01:14:02.100 I'll read the promo code for you.

01:14:04.520 Okay.

01:14:05.400 What do I say?

01:14:06.940 Well, you're on the board of the wellness company.

01:14:08.420 I'm on the medical board of the wellness company.

01:14:10.080 I embrace that.

01:14:10.880 Oh, it's your company.

01:14:11.240 Yeah, let him do that.

01:14:12.280 I got a million things to say about that.

01:14:13.680 Okay, go.

01:14:14.440 Well, first of all, they're great.

01:14:15.800 They are well-meaning people, great people.

01:14:18.080 We're not all completely aligned on everything.

01:14:20.840 Like everything Peter McCullough says, I don't sign off on, but I admire him.

01:14:24.420 And I want to see him continue to think about things and say stuff and put stuff

01:14:29.320 out there.

01:14:29.700 And anyway, he's been a great guy to work with.

01:14:31.780 He's a consummate physician.

01:14:33.060 He knows, cares about people.

01:14:35.300 And one of the things I've noticed is I've been trying to protect the physician-patient

01:14:40.380 relationship my whole career.

01:14:42.180 Yeah.

01:14:42.360 And it's just over.

01:14:43.980 We can't protect it anymore as doctors.

01:14:46.940 We either have insurance companies telling us what to do or employees or we're employees

01:14:51.900 or hospitals.

01:14:53.180 You saw what happened during COVID.

01:14:54.600 The behavior was mind-boggling.

01:14:56.980 How about mind-blowing?

01:14:57.940 And people just go home and come back when you're a PO2 70. 0.88

01:15:00.920 It's like, well, that's not...

01:15:02.700 See, closing down your offices and your care of patients when they need you the most...

01:15:08.820 I couldn't believe it.

01:15:09.980 In any event, this is a response to that.

01:15:13.460 And I kind of am now the opinion that because we can't protect the relationship, we need

01:15:19.260 to give the patient more.

01:15:21.520 There's so many things that are so easy to use that patients shouldn't have access to.

01:15:26.320 Right.

01:15:26.500 So we have these emergency kits.

01:15:27.760 That's what you have the code for.

01:15:29.220 Yeah, yes.

01:15:29.460 And I've followed my patients for years and years and I give them emergency kits and I give

01:15:35.180 them travel kits.

01:15:35.900 I've always done that.

01:15:37.600 And so when they started talking about doing this, I was like, yes, of course.

01:15:41.400 And you have a telehealth visit if you wish and you have a handbook on how to use these

01:15:46.080 things and when to use them and what they're for.

01:15:47.640 It really empowers the...

01:15:48.980 It empowers the patient.

01:15:50.100 It's just the way of the future too.

01:15:51.880 I'm pushing them to get into reproductive health because I will tell you, I'll give you 1.00

01:15:56.600 a world...

01:15:58.600 What do you call it when you reveal exclusive?

01:16:01.420 Yeah.

01:16:02.800 You know how there's prep and pep?

01:16:04.560 Do you know what that is?

01:16:05.100 So you can take an antiviral medication before you have sex to prevent HIV from transmitting.

01:16:10.440 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:16:11.380 You can take an antiviral after, called PEP, post-exposure prophylaxis, to reduce the

01:16:16.820 risk of transmission rather dramatically.

01:16:19.020 Turns out there are other antibiotics you can take that you can prevent risk of things

01:16:23.020 like gonorrhea and chlamydia and things that we just don't tell patients about it.

01:16:28.020 I want to really go down that road of empowering people, reproduction, non-hormonal kinds of contraception.

01:16:34.420 I want to go aggressively down that.

01:16:36.100 I love it.

01:16:36.480 Let me read this promo code now.

01:16:37.680 I want to talk about it because mom is giving you, if you want to get one of these med kits,

01:16:42.620 then you get the whole booklet and everything.

01:16:43.960 Yeah, yeah.

01:16:44.340 These are great kits.

01:16:45.340 They're reasonably priced.

01:16:46.280 It's so good for people to be more responsible for themselves.

01:16:48.560 We're going to have travel kits soon because when my patients go on travel, I give them

01:16:51.580 certain antibiotics and certain things.

01:16:53.220 That's so smart.

01:16:53.620 And I said, we've got to create that for our patients at wellness companies.

01:16:57.640 So we're doing that now too.

01:16:58.780 So go to twc.health forward slash rb.

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01:17:04.540 That's you guys.

01:17:05.400 Yeah.

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01:17:09.000 Yeah.

01:17:09.120 So that's twc.health forward slash rb and the promo code is rb for 10% off.

01:17:13.820 And you know what all this craziness has created?

01:17:15.700 I used to take a pill after I had sex, so I didn't get an ICD or IUD or ICN.

01:17:22.680 UTI.

01:17:23.700 UTI.

01:17:24.480 And then you gave the guy a pill before he had sex, the Rohitma. 0.97

01:17:27.620 No, you take it after because I always got a UTI after sex.

01:17:30.640 Yes, that's another thing we could do.

01:17:32.860 And there's different ways of doing it.

01:17:34.340 I just quit having sex because I figured this is not worth it.

01:17:37.860 Not worth it to get the UTIs all the time. 0.98

01:17:39.720 Would you do that sex kit with this company?

01:17:42.800 I'm going to. 0.99

01:17:43.420 I'm going to.

01:17:43.900 I plan to.

01:17:44.420 That's a great idea.

01:17:45.320 I just, I'm pushing them in that direction.

01:17:48.400 That's a good thing.

01:17:49.400 And by the way, for somebody like that, you know, look, putting back on the, if somebody

01:17:54.100 came to me with that history, I'd go, you know, some vaginal estrogen cream would probably 0.99

01:17:58.360 make the whole goddamn thing stop. 0.96

01:17:59.960 And no one tells you that, you know, and there's no reason they shouldn't have access. 0.99

01:18:04.420 I never heard that, for God's sake.

01:18:05.300 Yeah. 0.81

01:18:05.660 I said my whole life looking back, the only thing that ever got thin on me was my vaginal walls. 0.91

01:18:11.780 Right.

01:18:12.160 And that's why the, that's correct.

01:18:13.840 And that's why the vaginal cream restores some of that suppleness. 1.00

01:18:18.160 It does?

01:18:18.820 Yes.

01:18:19.160 And that's where the urinary tract infections are coming from. 1.00

01:18:21.060 Yeah.

01:18:21.080 Because it's all cracked down there.

01:18:22.700 Yes.

01:18:22.780 Oh.

01:18:23.100 Dusty.

01:18:23.580 And nobody tells people this.

01:18:25.120 It's a wild thing.

01:18:25.380 I never know.

01:18:25.520 Can you combine the cream with like a lubricant?

01:18:28.220 You don't even need the lubricant if it's, you can, but you don't even need the lubricant.

01:18:31.260 I just say you don't have to put a cream on and be gross, like, you know, make it sexy. 0.96

01:18:34.540 Plus the thought of-

01:18:35.240 Well, the cream is just on a regular basis.

01:18:37.140 Oh, it's just the thought of touching anyone is repulsive.

01:18:40.980 Well, that's because you're not on the cream.

01:18:42.740 See, I am so the opposite of you that way.

01:18:45.220 It's so funny.

01:18:46.020 Yeah.

01:18:46.920 Especially hands.

01:18:48.000 See, I am the opposite.

01:18:49.340 The fact that Dr. Fauci was saying we're never going to shake hands again, that was where I was,

01:18:53.000 we're off the rail here.

01:18:54.160 This is, something's wrong.

01:18:55.800 Really?

01:18:56.440 Yeah.

01:18:57.020 You probably welcomed it.

01:18:58.200 I just thought, no, uh-uh.

01:18:59.960 I just-

01:19:00.620 She loved COVID.

01:19:01.660 That's when I really started-

01:19:02.960 I did love it.

01:19:03.060 I reached out and shaking hands.

01:19:04.320 I was like, I'm-

01:19:05.180 I loved COVID because it was like the quarantine, it was so great.

01:19:09.840 No problem.

01:19:10.660 Because I never had to babysit because I told my daughters, I can't be around kids because,

01:19:16.960 you know, I'm not vaccinated.

01:19:19.440 And so just keep your kids at your own place.

01:19:22.360 And, uh, so I never had to babysit for all year.

01:19:27.400 Look at the joy in that face.

01:19:29.680 I had an assistant.

01:19:31.100 She's made me cheese sandwiches whenever I wanted.

01:19:34.120 And I just laid in bed all on my new medications, which were good.

01:19:39.760 And, uh, went on social media.

01:19:42.200 Psych meds?

01:19:42.680 Huh?

01:19:42.960 Psych meds?

01:19:43.520 Oh, yeah.

01:19:44.080 What are you taking?

01:19:44.640 Can you-

01:19:45.080 Well, then on the COVID, on the quarantine, I can't remember which ones I was on during that.

01:19:52.060 Depakote?

01:19:53.000 No, I've never gone that one.

01:19:55.060 Abilify?

01:19:56.380 I have done Abil- 0.99

01:19:57.340 No, I didn't do-

01:19:58.400 Abilify is the hamburger helper one, right?

01:20:00.720 Yes.

01:20:01.080 If your thing ain't working, ask your doctor for the Abilify.

01:20:06.200 There's Truvada's also does that kind of thing.

01:20:08.640 I know Truvada.

01:20:10.260 I think it's Truvada, yeah.

01:20:12.280 I took, uh, oh, it's too long of a name.

01:20:16.180 It's got about 15 letters and it starts with a D.

01:20:18.980 Deferfazidone?

01:20:23.180 That one you're always filling for me?

01:20:24.740 Yeah.

01:20:25.620 It's the best one I've ever been on.

01:20:27.680 Lyrica.

01:20:28.680 Oh.

01:20:29.180 Oh, it's Lyrica.

01:20:29.540 Just Lyrica?

01:20:30.580 Yeah.

01:20:31.440 What's Lyrica?

01:20:31.780 Look at him shocked.

01:20:32.720 That's all they put you on?

01:20:34.200 Lyrica is just a pain medicine, essentially.

01:20:36.700 It's like, um, Neurontin.

01:20:39.180 Oh.

01:20:39.880 Yeah.

01:20:40.440 Maybe it's not Lyrica.

01:20:41.620 Yeah.

01:20:42.260 Maybe that's the wrong word.

01:20:43.060 But anyway, the point is, pharmacology can be helpful is the point I'm trying to make.

01:20:45.920 Absolutely.

01:20:46.320 Well, this one I'm on is so good.

01:20:49.180 So this is generally what I want to say, is that going all one way and all the other is usually an error.

01:20:56.080 Absolutely.

01:20:56.460 Okay?

01:20:56.940 Yes, it is.

01:20:57.760 And so I'm trying to get everyone to temporize.

01:21:00.200 To be moderate.

01:21:01.480 Moderate.

01:21:01.880 The truth is always in the middle.

01:21:03.620 It's always in the middle.

01:21:04.500 Don't go to the extremes.

01:21:05.880 The excesses.

01:21:07.040 Even in vaccines.

01:21:08.420 Like, in vaccines, for me, it's odd that they had a vaccine ready for a spike protein.

01:21:14.720 Isn't that interesting?

01:21:15.440 Yeah.

01:21:15.840 They do?

01:21:16.940 That's what the COVID vaccine.

01:21:17.920 That's what the mRNA vaccine was, a spike protein.

01:21:20.760 But now they have a vaccine for the spike protein?

01:21:24.140 That's what the mRNA vaccine is, to produce lots of spike protein. 0.98

01:21:27.780 So your body sees the spike protein on the coronavirus and fights it off.

01:21:31.240 But you produce a bunch of spike protein first, so your immune system reacts to it.

01:21:36.160 So now they're going to give you a shot to get rid of the spike protein.

01:21:39.840 Well, this is what's weird to me, is that we took the most pathogenic part of the virus

01:21:44.660 and made it, people exposed them to a lot of it.

01:21:47.440 That was odd that we didn't switch to the nucleocapsid protein, but okay.

01:21:51.940 And Rand Paul pointed out to me today, because Moderna was already underway with this stuff.

01:21:56.600 Somebody knew there was something afoot with potential coronavirus problems.

01:22:00.680 Yeah.

01:22:00.860 And so we did that, and it was very helpful early on for older patients.

01:22:06.520 It really was.

01:22:07.560 It really kind of interrupted things.

01:22:09.860 I had older patients that died of COVID, and when I was able to vaccinate them, things were different.

01:22:14.620 Really?

01:22:15.220 They were different.

01:22:16.360 Now, should a 12-year-old be vaccinated?

01:22:18.520 I wasn't so clear at the time, but I didn't take an opinion yet.

01:22:23.120 Then now we're doing third vaccines.

01:22:25.180 Now we're doing four rounds of this.

01:22:27.280 There was a study out of Austria just a couple days ago that suggested that the fourth vaccine,

01:22:33.480 the second booster, not only did nothing, no effect on hospitalization, no effect on deaths,

01:22:39.080 reduced infection maybe by 17% for three months, and then a rebound where you get more infection

01:22:44.240 for the rest of the way.

01:22:46.220 So it really doesn't do anything.

01:22:47.660 So I don't know what we're doing with all the boostering, boostering, boostering,

01:22:50.240 especially when 99% of the people have antibodies against the virus.

01:22:53.420 Here's a thought for you. 1.00

01:22:54.900 Bullshit. 1.00

01:22:55.240 Yeah. 1.00

01:22:55.400 What if we're doing it just to sell people shit, to make money? 0.99

01:23:01.140 Well, it looks like that. 0.99

01:23:03.180 Doesn't it?

01:23:03.880 Yes, it does.

01:23:04.820 And if I were amongst those people that were being accused of doing that, I would want to

01:23:09.540 correct course very quickly.

01:23:10.780 Particularly, let's take a 22-year-old male.

01:23:15.580 This virus has no risk for a 22-year-old male, and the vaccine has some risk of causing myocarditis.

01:23:23.900 Not a lot, but some risk.

01:23:26.400 And some newer studies showed that half of those kids have persistent myocarditis a year

01:23:31.340 later.

01:23:32.020 That's mind-boggling.

01:23:34.160 Any other product would be taken off the market, or certainly for those age groups.

01:23:37.500 I sure would.

01:23:38.100 And yet, we're still pushing it.

01:23:39.900 Remember the Tylenol poisoning?

01:23:41.840 It was one store and four bottles of Tylenol, and they pulled it from everywhere.

01:23:45.940 Remember you couldn't get tryptophan?

01:23:47.240 Do you remember tryptophan when they pulled it?

01:23:48.640 Because one person died on tryptophan, which you can get from Turkey.

01:23:51.360 Yeah, that's exactly right. 1.00

01:23:52.560 They used to pull shit. 1.00

01:23:53.720 Yes. 1.00

01:23:55.000 Something happened in the medical.

01:23:56.360 Now they're mandating it.

01:23:57.740 So I'm saying, look, you-

01:23:58.740 Do you think that all the medical stuff, let me just ask you this, are we going to-

01:24:03.180 We're in the vaccine part right now.

01:24:04.580 Yeah.

01:24:05.920 Go ahead.

01:24:06.540 Ask me.

01:24:06.980 Well, it changed somewhat somewhere where it just became-

01:24:13.080 Was it Obamacare that changed everything and made it so corporate?

01:24:17.780 That was part of the evolution, I think.

01:24:19.860 Because if you look at the electronic medical record, there's all these milestones you have

01:24:25.040 to hit.

01:24:25.400 And if you hit them, you get a little higher reimbursement, and blah, blah, blah, from

01:24:28.400 the insurance company.

01:24:29.480 Not from the drug company, from the insurance companies, or from the government, for Medicare

01:24:33.040 and things.

01:24:34.000 And so, yeah, there's a lot more sort of rule-following, programmatic checking boxes, that kind of stuff

01:24:40.560 that was never part of medicine when I was trained.

01:24:43.440 Yeah, there's some of that.

01:24:45.080 And there's, you know, residents don't work the long hours anymore.

01:24:48.620 They don't prioritize patients the way we used to.

01:24:50.540 I worry about that.

01:24:52.900 We'll see.

01:24:53.540 I mean, I-

01:24:54.540 It seems like, you know, well, maybe you're pioneering a great exodus that becomes-

01:25:02.920 I just want-

01:25:03.820 My interest is in the truth.

01:25:06.260 Yeah.

01:25:06.640 That is my interest.

01:25:08.140 And if we can all ascend to the truth, I'll be very happy.

01:25:11.160 Yeah, I will be too.

01:25:12.940 If free speed-

01:25:14.100 Especially if doctors-

01:25:14.740 But your truth is a little different than my truth, I think.

01:25:16.560 I know.

01:25:17.240 It's very different.

01:25:18.720 But-

01:25:18.740 But, no, it isn't.

01:25:20.180 Well, one of us is going to be right.

01:25:22.140 Well, it'll be me.

01:25:23.280 It could be.

01:25:23.920 It always is.

01:25:25.060 Yeah, you have a pretty good record.

01:25:26.860 Have you ever looked at things I've said would happen?

01:25:31.300 Like, no, give me an example.

01:25:32.000 Over the last 20 years?

01:25:33.100 Please, please give me an example.

01:25:33.820 We've got to write it up.

01:25:35.160 Please do.

01:25:35.740 I'm going to write it up and pass it along.

01:25:36.360 Please do.

01:25:36.700 I would love to-

01:25:37.460 Well, the Iran deal- 0.59

01:25:38.660 My sister keeps it.

01:25:39.700 The Iran deal you were right about. 0.84

01:25:41.400 Yeah.

01:25:41.540 That's what you got fired for.

01:25:42.820 Yeah.

01:25:43.240 Calling out how that would fund-

01:25:45.360 That is just beginning to occur to people right now in our country.

01:25:50.920 It is odd how poorly informed we are.

01:25:54.760 That, to me, in a time when information is everywhere, it concerns me.

01:25:59.440 That's the part that-

01:26:00.580 That's what I was-

01:26:01.140 Yeah, that's the part I'm struggling with right now.

01:26:03.840 Because they have to control.

01:26:05.360 We have more access to information now than we ever have throughout history, and we're 1.00

01:26:08.880 dumber. 0.99

01:26:09.480 It makes no sense. 1.00

01:26:11.140 It makes no sense.

01:26:11.600 And there was, like, again, I ran Paul's fresh on my mind because I just interviewed

01:26:16.300 him, and I read through his book as best I could.

01:26:18.100 It's like 400 pages of evidence.

01:26:20.040 Like, I mean, just mounds of evidence.

01:26:23.640 Where's Ronan Farrow?

01:26:26.000 Why isn't he digging over that and trying to figure out what's going on?

01:26:28.920 That's exactly right.

01:26:29.660 I want that kid to really help enlighten, pull the lid off this, get the Band-Aid off.

01:26:35.360 What is going on?

01:26:36.520 There's something missing in our ability to access what's the full spectrum of what's

01:26:42.540 going on here.

01:26:43.420 I know that's mind control that keeps us from-

01:26:46.220 People are scared, and then anons do it, and they get destroyed.

01:26:48.440 We are being taught never to assess blame upward.

01:26:54.240 That's one of the-

01:26:55.100 Well, we were reared on that, right?

01:26:57.060 Yeah.

01:26:57.260 Our thing was question authority.

01:26:58.560 Yeah.

01:26:58.760 That was our deal.

01:26:59.920 Now it's trust the experts.

01:27:00.800 So how our children and their children came to totally trust the government.

01:27:05.940 If they want to vaccinate my eyeballs 15 times, I'm going to let them do it.

01:27:09.780 My newborn baby.

01:27:10.940 Well, I was sort of-

01:27:11.680 I'm on the record of saying there aren't enough vaccines in the world for my family.

01:27:15.100 That's my statement pre-COVID.

01:27:18.040 Since then, I've been like, well, I'm thinking about it.

01:27:21.820 Yeah, me too.

01:27:22.100 Let me think about some of this stuff.

01:27:23.200 It's just everybody seems to have somebody in their family who's died from the myocarditis.

01:27:31.260 Everybody has at least somebody in their family, and people are not trusting.

01:27:37.220 They're just not trusting because of evidence.

01:27:39.660 Well, no vaccine's ever been put to market that quick, Operation Warp Speed, right?

01:27:44.140 No, and remember, everybody, no one was going to take it because it was Trump's vaccine.

01:27:48.100 Yeah, I know.

01:27:48.480 All of a sudden, you have to take it.

01:27:49.680 It's like, what?

01:27:50.180 I know, that's what I said. 0.97

01:27:51.580 I asked my family members that couldn't wait to run out and get it, all gay, by the way. 1.00

01:27:58.860 I'm like, what is it with the gays trusting the government to vaccinate them? 1.00

01:28:04.060 Or Fauci. 0.90

01:28:04.820 Hello?

01:28:05.120 Yeah.

01:28:05.700 Hello?

01:28:07.020 Hello?

01:28:07.960 Remember the 60s?

01:28:09.300 Hello?

01:28:09.860 Remember Stonewall?

01:28:10.920 Yeah.

01:28:11.660 Remember this government?

01:28:13.180 Not at all.

01:28:14.520 But they did.

01:28:16.240 They ran for the vaccine.

01:28:17.520 There's musicians.

01:28:18.300 There's musicians.

01:28:18.800 Remember Foo Fighters?

01:28:19.720 You couldn't get in their concert without vaccines?

01:28:21.480 Like, they were rock stars that were like, you have to go, like, you're supposed to be 0.99

01:28:24.660 fucking counterculture. 0.91

01:28:25.900 Yeah, but they were, there was, it was panic. 1.00

01:28:27.800 It was panic and it was mass formation.

01:28:29.800 It was mass formation, but it was also like, hey, if you don't do what we, the owners tell

01:28:34.780 you to do, you're going to get blacklisted, blackballed.

01:28:36.920 But they were all diluted.

01:28:37.840 They were diluted with the message that the vaccinated are the, it's the pandemic of the

01:28:43.440 unvaccinated.

01:28:44.320 Yeah.

01:28:44.880 They're the source of infection.

01:28:46.880 They're the ones that are filling up the hospitals. 0.51

01:28:48.600 Yeah, I remember about it.

01:28:48.800 All these things that they were, they believe, they still believe to this day a lot of people.

01:28:52.280 Yeah. 0.99

01:28:52.480 But that shit ain't true. 0.99

01:28:54.500 No, I never believe it. 1.00

01:28:55.640 It's all bullshit. 1.00

01:28:56.320 Correct. 0.99

01:28:56.960 Remember those nurses, at the same time, they were, I think people are funny in how they 0.83

01:29:02.300 do, but they were saying that the hospitals were overrun with people suffering and couldn't

01:29:07.560 get in.

01:29:08.020 Yeah.

01:29:08.160 And then the nurses come out doing that big old choreographed dance number down the hall 1.00

01:29:14.560 that probably took, you know, 20 to 28 hours to get all the steps in.

01:29:21.640 You know, it's just like, to understand the dual.

01:29:26.460 Hang on, my wife has been paging and, you're interrupting our podcast.

01:29:30.100 Roseanne says hi, what's going on?

01:29:31.140 We're wrapping up.

01:29:31.840 Something going on?

01:29:33.720 Okay.

01:29:35.080 Okay, bye.

01:29:35.920 I got that on the mic.

01:29:38.080 Is everything okay?

01:29:39.100 I guess.

01:29:40.200 Well, we went a little long.

01:29:41.160 We can wrap up.

01:29:41.940 I just, I wanted to hear one more thing about-

01:29:43.360 Well, let me finish my-

01:29:45.000 All right.

01:29:45.040 Well, I'm not done.

01:29:45.980 I'm still talking to her.

01:29:47.180 All I got is the freeway, by the way, which is blocked by Palestinian protesters.

01:29:51.820 Are you kidding?

01:29:52.460 The 110, right?

01:29:55.780 And you can't run them over.

01:29:57.100 I mean, you can.

01:29:57.900 You should, but you can't.

01:29:59.560 Well, what was I saying?

01:30:00.940 I was telling him something.

01:30:02.060 We were talking about vaccines.

01:30:02.940 We were talking about the- 0.99

01:30:04.440 Damn, it was good. 0.99

01:30:05.920 Two. 1.00

01:30:06.760 Damn, you always- 1.00

01:30:07.300 Play the tape back. 1.00

01:30:08.220 Well, his wife called.

01:30:09.740 Yeah, I know.

01:30:10.600 It was her fault, to be fair.

01:30:12.060 She always plays away that. 0.66

01:30:13.320 There was something I was going to say about just how it works.

01:30:16.880 Oh, the dissonance, the imposed cognitive dissonance.

01:30:23.060 They'll show you those nurses at the same time. 0.98

01:30:25.720 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:30:26.380 That'll be on the internet, but then at the same time on CNN, it'll be the emergency rooms

01:30:31.920 are overflowing.

01:30:32.700 So it's like, how can you stay balanced and say when it's the opposite every minute?

01:30:38.220 I had a nightly show here on Fox 11, not Fox News, Fox Local.

01:30:44.080 And I did it for about a year during COVID, trying to help people understand what was going

01:30:48.360 on.

01:30:48.760 And every night, I was having to kind of adjust what the producers wanted to put out there.

01:30:53.560 They go, there's no, county says no hospital beds.

01:30:55.960 I go, the county says there's no hospital beds.

01:30:59.480 So that means there's no county free, sufficiently staffed.

01:31:05.000 They have a staff problem.

01:31:06.640 They have plenty of beds.

01:31:08.300 They can't get enough nurses in there. 1.00

01:31:10.660 The hospitals all around the city are fine, all the private hospitals.

01:31:15.620 And the county's getting stressed because people without insurance and whatnot are coming in.

01:31:21.460 But don't now say, there are no ICU beds.

01:31:25.380 Do not say that.

01:31:26.920 I had to do things like that every night.

01:31:29.080 Oh my God.

01:31:29.620 Those were the kind of data.

01:31:31.340 They just wanted to inflict mass panic.

01:31:32.460 They were in panic.

01:31:33.800 I had somebody walk up to me in a newsroom, a really high quality journalist, and said,

01:31:39.820 so this is a, what's the word he used?

01:31:43.900 This is a, what's it called?

01:31:45.860 One of species.

01:31:46.620 He goes, this is an extinction event, right?

01:31:48.320 We're witnessing an extinction of humanity.

01:31:49.840 Are you kidding?

01:31:50.280 And I was like, what?

01:31:52.360 I mean, not even remotely like that is going on.

01:31:56.420 Yeah.

01:31:56.960 My dad was like that.

01:31:57.280 And that's what the people that produced the news were thinking and believe.

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01:33:28.000 T's and C's apply. 0.98

01:33:28.660 That's how fuck we, that's what we did to people. 0.99

01:33:32.240 They thought that the COVID was that? 1.00

01:33:34.880 Was humans going instinct before their eyes.

01:33:37.540 Yeah.

01:33:37.900 That this was going to eliminate the human species.

01:33:41.320 Oh my God.

01:33:42.140 Yeah.

01:33:42.380 That's like when Trump won and my daughter was there.

01:33:45.340 Because I had a broken leg and was up in San Fran in a room

01:33:49.840 and everyone came to see me for my birthday.

01:33:51.600 Well, that just happened to be election night when Trump won 2016, 15.

01:33:57.960 And my daughters are very liberal and the one started to scream.

01:34:03.580 I knew Trump was going to win too.

01:34:05.180 How?

01:34:05.820 I just knew he was.

01:34:06.960 I was shocked.

01:34:07.800 Another thing she was right about.

01:34:08.920 Who's winning the next?

01:34:10.000 What's who's winning?

01:34:10.620 Oh, well, let's wait.

01:34:11.580 Oh, I want a prediction.

01:34:12.320 Let me finish what my daughter said.

01:34:14.000 Okay, okay.

01:34:14.200 So then she got, she turns to me because it was my fault, of course, that he won.

01:34:19.000 Yeah.

01:34:19.640 And she goes, mother! 0.99

01:34:22.900 She goes, he is going to deport all the gays! 0.99

01:34:32.020 I know. 0.96

01:34:32.520 My daughter called me and said, what's going to happen to my friends?

01:34:34.800 Is he going to round them up?

01:34:35.980 Yeah.

01:34:36.240 I was like, where did you get that idea from?

01:34:38.800 Yeah.

01:34:39.020 She was at Columbia.

01:34:41.280 Oh, the Trump derangement syndrome is part of that.

01:34:43.980 That was shocking to me.

01:34:45.100 It's gotten worse.

01:34:46.460 Well, it's different now.

01:34:47.580 It's changed a bit.

01:34:48.700 I think it's crazier now.

01:34:50.040 They like amping us up against each other.

01:34:51.920 Yeah.

01:34:52.300 That's what it is.

01:34:52.760 I feel like it's planned.

01:34:53.980 I do feel like there's a hand at work.

01:34:55.500 They want a race war. 0.96

01:34:57.280 They want a civil war. 0.52

01:34:58.320 It can't be just crazy.

01:34:59.240 The owners.

01:35:01.440 Klaus Schwab and them.

01:35:02.640 Yeah.

01:35:03.120 Could be Klaus.

01:35:03.980 Well, how about what's the name that keeps putting the DAs in?

01:35:05.640 The people who put on every color revolution on earth.

01:35:11.080 I want to know what motive is Soros.

01:35:12.640 A color revolution is happening in America, just like it happened in Ukraine and Egypt.

01:35:18.720 The same exact thing is happening here.

01:35:21.920 And if you notice it at all, you're an enemy.

01:35:24.900 But that is what it is.

01:35:26.380 We need to fight back and make sure we find our way back to sanity.

01:35:29.680 Well, we need to start talking to each other, speaking to each other, and pointing the blame

01:35:36.660 upward, not laterally at each other, but upward at the actual people who are guilty and actually 0.98

01:35:43.600 cause all the goddamn trouble. 0.98

01:35:45.600 I am prepared to blame the media. 1.00

01:35:47.740 They have been a major, major source of trouble.

01:35:48.680 Well, they're an arm of it.

01:35:49.760 They're owned by four companies.

01:35:50.820 Well, that's fine.

01:35:51.760 And the farmers are the one funding it, let's be fair.

01:35:54.240 Right.

01:35:54.540 But that's where my focus was from the beginning with COVID was so crazy.

01:36:00.480 But don't you see the-

01:36:00.780 Don't listen to these people.

01:36:01.720 There's a plan there.

01:36:02.580 And it's the elections, too.

01:36:04.280 Because remember when we were alive?

01:36:07.060 Remember when we were young?

01:36:08.360 Yes.

01:36:08.620 And, you know, they used to have a thing called the Fairness Doctrine.

01:36:13.760 And so if somebody came on and spoke about-

01:36:15.780 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:36:16.340 Their political party for three minutes, you got equal time.

01:36:19.580 There was no money involved.

01:36:21.420 No.

01:36:21.900 It didn't cost a billion dollars to lose an election.

01:36:25.700 Yeah.

01:36:26.480 It's just all devolved.

01:36:28.060 That's weird, too.

01:36:29.180 Yeah, that's-

01:36:29.980 I agree with that.

01:36:31.000 Right?

01:36:31.140 Have you seen when all the journalists say the same thing?

01:36:33.120 Have you seen that video?

01:36:33.980 Oh, my God.

01:36:34.480 It's fantastic.

01:36:35.360 Play that video for everybody here.

01:36:36.880 A threat to our democracy.

01:36:38.200 Yeah, yeah.

01:36:38.540 No, no.

01:36:38.920 If one's not safe, nobody's safe.

01:36:40.540 Like, what?

01:36:41.440 There's like three or four companies that own all the media, right?

01:36:45.700 Yeah.

01:36:45.920 So, and you see this where they're reading from the same script.

01:36:48.800 But I've worked there.

01:36:49.280 Why do you have such a-

01:36:49.880 But I'm just wondering, why do you have such a hard time when we say they or people are

01:36:52.780 in charge?

01:36:53.140 You're always like, who's they?

01:36:54.040 When you can see right there, there's four people that run every news organization.

01:36:58.060 But-

01:36:58.400 If they have one private phone call, like, hey, we're going with this story tonight, that's

01:37:01.380 the story tonight.

01:37:02.200 Yeah, but listen, I've worked.

01:37:03.460 I worked at-

01:37:03.960 I was on HLN every night.

01:37:04.380 Yeah, but you weren't at that level.

01:37:05.500 Well, you were getting the stuff like, hey, this is what we're talking about tonight. 0.99

01:37:07.540 You just got the shit to read. 1.00

01:37:08.220 No. 1.00

01:37:08.820 I mean, I know you produced your stuff, but they were saying-

01:37:11.100 Did you?

01:37:11.520 Yeah.

01:37:11.940 Oh, you produced your stuff.

01:37:12.680 Well, I helped produce it.

01:37:13.680 I was a good producer.

01:37:14.460 You were on a network or a local network.

01:37:15.860 Did they tell you what to do?

01:37:17.320 Never.

01:37:17.820 Oh, good.

01:37:18.280 Until they did.

01:37:19.420 Right.

01:37:19.740 Oh, until they did.

01:37:20.520 That's what I was saying.

01:37:21.820 So, I did get in trouble at one point.

01:37:23.620 So, they control the information.

01:37:25.180 They can-

01:37:25.280 But it wasn't, it was, that was eye-opening.

01:37:28.840 But that was after being there for like eight years.

01:37:30.400 Yeah.

01:37:30.800 It was weird.

01:37:31.500 You probably weren't-

01:37:32.080 They're always stalking you.

01:37:32.640 You weren't threatening the narrative of whatever you were doing eight years ago.

01:37:35.060 They're always taking your temperature.

01:37:35.380 It was when you started to go outside of the realms of their restraints on you, that's

01:37:40.080 when they got mad.

01:37:40.340 No, I never felt any pressure to say anything, ever.

01:37:42.240 I said what I-

01:37:42.680 Until you did.

01:37:44.620 But actually, as always, what was reported about what I said was not even what I said.

01:37:50.540 Right.

01:37:50.640 It's never what I say.

01:37:51.680 No.

01:37:52.180 This is the thing about being a public figure.

01:37:54.000 Whatever you said is never what's reported.

01:37:56.040 That's right.

01:37:56.160 It's never what goes viral.

01:37:57.460 It's always what somebody said you said.

01:37:58.920 She's aware.

01:37:59.520 Right?

01:37:59.680 Well, with me, it's like they take my jokes as if they were statements.

01:38:03.620 Yes.

01:38:04.040 Like if Henny Youngman goes, take my wife, please.

01:38:06.580 He goes- 1.00

01:38:07.300 She wants to kill his wife. 1.00

01:38:08.120 He's trafficking his wife. 1.00

01:38:09.200 Yes, right. 1.00

01:38:09.820 He's saying, come and have sex with his- 1.00

01:38:12.000 Right. 0.99

01:38:12.240 You know, all my jokes, they take them like they're serious.

01:38:14.740 But again, I think people are waking up to that.

01:38:16.760 They're getting used-

01:38:17.600 I hope so.

01:38:17.620 They're becoming more smart.

01:38:19.060 They're smarter about consumption of news and virality and things.

01:38:22.860 I hope so. 0.99

01:38:23.540 After all the ridiculous shit they've seen, that Don Lamont was the worst of it. 1.00

01:38:29.680 That guy? 1.00

01:38:32.000 I know you're not going to say anything.

01:38:33.480 Well, he was somebody I worked with, you know?

01:38:36.020 Oh, it was?

01:38:36.800 Oh.

01:38:36.940 Yeah.

01:38:37.260 And that was how I got in trouble.

01:38:38.600 I'm sorry, then.

01:38:38.620 I said something on his show.

01:38:39.980 Oh, that's right.

01:38:40.900 But I didn't get in trouble with them.

01:38:42.160 I got in trouble later.

01:38:43.860 So here's-

01:38:44.240 All right.

01:38:44.340 You want to hear my story with them?

01:38:45.620 Uh-huh.

01:38:46.280 So I had a wonderful experience at CNN.

01:38:50.020 I have no quarrel.

01:38:50.820 They were great men.

01:38:51.680 I just have nothing but positive things to say about my experience there.

01:38:54.320 What about Jeff Zucker?

01:38:56.060 He was great.

01:38:56.600 I had a great relationship with him.

01:38:57.600 I used to really like that guy.

01:38:59.400 Yeah.

01:38:59.420 The guy right under him I really admire and still admire.

01:39:02.720 And he came to me and said, we're going to have to cancel.

01:39:04.380 We're canceling all late night on-

01:39:05.840 All primetime on HLM.

01:39:08.160 They just canceled me and Nancy Grace and all this stuff.

01:39:10.400 But we're going to wait a few months because, you know, your employees need this and that.

01:39:14.080 And we were-

01:39:14.500 On behalf of the employees, it was really a nice thing.

01:39:16.740 Yeah, they always say that.

01:39:17.640 And I was on Don Lemon's show pretty much every night.

01:39:21.040 Yeah. 0.85

01:39:21.180 And one night I was on there going, yeah, you know, yes, Trump has narcissism. 0.99

01:39:25.180 Trump is hypomanic. 0.97

01:39:26.040 But a lot of business people are that way. 0.98

01:39:27.120 And I said, be careful.

01:39:28.140 Be careful how you label presidents with these psychiatric labels.

01:39:32.920 And I described two presidents who had significant psychiatric problems.

01:39:36.600 And I said, should these two guys have been president?

01:39:39.500 He was like, absolutely not.

01:39:40.380 Well, okay.

01:39:41.000 That's Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt.

01:39:42.960 Abraham Lincoln had a profound depression.

01:39:44.460 Oh, yeah.

01:39:44.760 Severe depression.

01:39:45.680 He is bipolar.

01:39:46.540 He may have had bipolar.

01:39:47.700 Teddy was definitely bipolar.

01:39:48.340 And you got in trouble for that?

01:39:49.180 Huh?

01:39:49.540 You got in trouble for that?

01:39:50.960 No.

01:39:51.360 No.

01:39:51.500 I go to my-

01:39:52.440 I was doing a daytime radio show and the program director said, hey, I heard what you said

01:39:57.660 on Don Lemon last night.

01:39:58.580 Could you condense that to 30 seconds and put it on our website?

01:40:02.560 Oh, yeah.

01:40:03.240 Hold on.

01:40:04.180 And it gets better.

01:40:05.880 And I go, yeah, I think I could do that.

01:40:07.880 And I did it.

01:40:08.520 And I'm getting up.

01:40:09.200 And he goes, fairness.

01:40:11.040 You know what?

01:40:12.000 There's an election.

01:40:12.900 You probably should say, can you got something to say about Hillary?

01:40:14.680 Can you do me 30 seconds on Hillary? 1.00

01:40:16.320 And I go, well, funny thing.

01:40:18.000 She released her medical records today, her doctors.

01:40:20.520 And she was getting not good medical care.

01:40:24.100 I had notes about everything they were doing for her.

01:40:26.160 I remember you saying that.

01:40:27.000 And so I did 30 seconds criticizing or raising issues about the medical care she was getting. 0.99

01:40:32.540 She'd had a stroke.

01:40:33.360 And she'd had a transverse sinus thrombosis.

01:40:35.220 And she was on hypercoagulable medication.

01:40:37.120 And why did they have on Coumadin?

01:40:38.320 I had a million questions.

01:40:40.300 And I got up and didn't think anything of it.

01:40:42.960 Next day, Drudge Reports, front page.

01:40:45.840 Finally, a physician says she's not suitable for office, which is not at all what I said.

01:40:50.820 Oh, no.

01:40:51.480 That then goes viral.

01:40:53.340 That's when I heard from they, who told me to go away.

01:40:57.940 Yeah.

01:40:58.480 And a week later, we'd planned to stop the show.

01:41:02.260 So it looked like we had canceled the show because of what I said, which was not what I said, not why we stopped the show.

01:41:10.740 Yeah.

01:41:11.080 They were just setting you up.

01:41:13.060 They wanted you out.

01:41:14.800 They.

01:41:15.440 Well, I was already out.

01:41:16.300 We had agreed, lock, stock, and barrel.

01:41:19.040 The show was over on the next Thursday.

01:41:21.200 You said something about Hillary.

01:41:22.340 Yeah.

01:41:23.380 You triggered him with the anti-Hillary. 0.85

01:41:25.540 The media.

01:41:25.860 But I didn't even give anything anti-Hillary.

01:41:27.500 It doesn't matter.

01:41:27.920 I was giving both sides an assessment.

01:41:30.220 Well, because Drudge.

01:41:31.540 Drudge said I said something that I didn't say.

01:41:34.840 Yeah.

01:41:35.160 And that's always.

01:41:36.960 Listen.

01:41:37.380 And Hillary was the media starling. 0.99

01:41:38.300 Nancy Pelosi calls that the wrap-up smear.

01:41:40.780 She does call it that.

01:41:42.560 And that's what happened to me with COVID.

01:41:44.340 They put out a video of parts of the things I was saying.

01:41:49.360 And by the way, the things that they cut out would be the things I would be criticized for today.

01:41:54.220 Because at the end of every one of my little concerns about the paranoia and the hysteria and all that I was sort of yelling about, I would say, just listen to the CDC and listen to Fauci.

01:42:03.820 They'll get us through this.

01:42:04.680 I remember.

01:42:05.000 I used to be so mad at you.

01:42:06.060 And they cut that part out, and that part is still gone.

01:42:09.120 But today, I would be criticized for that part.

01:42:11.220 Yeah.

01:42:11.940 I was upset with you when you were doing that.

01:42:13.940 Isn't that something?

01:42:14.680 Oh, Fauci.

01:42:15.400 I don't know.

01:42:16.060 I think.

01:42:16.460 You already knew it was a problem with that?

01:42:17.940 I did.

01:42:18.460 I knew right ahead.

01:42:19.380 Day one.

01:42:20.040 Well, so there's a good prediction.

01:42:21.620 I knew it because Q said.

01:42:24.280 I was into the Q thing.

01:42:25.960 I guess you never were into the Q thing.

01:42:27.500 No.

01:42:27.960 Well, Q said watch Fauci because he's doing the Freemason handshake.

01:42:32.340 Yeah.

01:42:32.660 So that's how I knew he was no good.

01:42:34.580 Well, tell me for both of you without talking.

01:42:36.060 I knew because of Lyme disease and Y2K. 1.00

01:42:39.280 What about Lyme?

01:42:39.980 Remember Lyme disease?

01:42:41.440 Yes.

01:42:41.820 If you stepped on grass, you were going to die.

01:42:43.120 I didn't go outside for a year when I was 12 years old because I thought if I touched

01:42:46.500 grass, I was going to get Lyme disease and die.

01:42:48.840 Y2K happened. 0.99

01:42:49.880 This hysteria I fell for.

01:42:51.200 After those two, I was like, oh, they're just pushing hysteria. 1.00

01:42:53.520 It's all bullshit. 1.00

01:42:54.240 And I never was fooled again. 1.00

01:42:56.220 So I'll get an opinion from each other.

01:42:58.580 What's going to happen in our next presidential election?

01:43:01.060 There isn't going to be one.

01:43:02.220 I've already said that.

01:43:03.340 I've quoted everywhere saying that.

01:43:05.400 I'm reiterating on that.

01:43:07.100 There won't be a 24 election.

01:43:08.880 What's going to happen?

01:43:10.060 Well, I'm not at liberty to say that.

01:43:12.400 She can't say.

01:43:12.620 Okay.

01:43:12.840 When the mic's off, what are you saying?

01:43:14.200 I think Trump's going to win for a third straight time.

01:43:16.640 And I think Biden will get reelected.

01:43:22.100 That's my answer.

01:43:23.020 I think there's a reasonable probability that Biden at the convention will say no.

01:43:29.560 He can't.

01:43:30.300 I can't.

01:43:30.840 I've got a diagnosis of something.

01:43:33.340 And here is Mr. Newsom who's going to come in.

01:43:36.180 I think so.

01:43:36.960 Who do you think it's going to be, Newsom?

01:43:38.240 They can't do it.

01:43:39.280 You know what, Mike?

01:43:40.460 Favorite?

01:43:40.920 Michelle Obama.

01:43:42.020 Well, people are saying that.

01:43:43.240 But there's no way Michelle is going to do it. 0.98

01:43:45.500 There's no way.

01:43:46.520 Why? 0.99

01:43:47.120 Because if she does, I will dedicate the rest of my life to telling fat-ass Michelle Obama jokes 0.98

01:43:54.160 day and night, 24-7, 365. 0.99

01:43:57.520 She's the one that got me fired.

01:43:59.300 She is? 0.92

01:43:59.900 Yeah, she is.

01:44:00.940 And, you know, people say things and I say things and what have you.

01:44:04.680 More or less, yeah.

01:44:05.080 I never said one rude thing about Michelle.

01:44:08.300 She's they.

01:44:08.660 She's one of they's, yeah.

01:44:09.680 She is a they. 1.00

01:44:10.520 Yeah, she is a they. 1.00

01:44:11.160 But what was I saying before?

01:44:12.560 Oh, I didn't mean that.

01:44:13.420 Oh, my favorite guy that does the analysis, Trump Mafia on YouTube, they just put him

01:44:20.380 back.

01:44:21.000 So happy.

01:44:22.320 Alex Jones?

01:44:23.200 No, it's just called Trump Mafia.

01:44:25.800 Oh, okay.

01:44:26.520 Alex Jones is too mainstream for my mom.

01:44:28.620 Oh, my God.

01:44:29.200 Yeah.

01:44:30.320 Well, read the.

01:44:31.120 Oh, no.

01:44:31.980 No, but Trump Mafia is so great.

01:44:34.300 Because he said.

01:44:35.660 Read the Musk biography.

01:44:36.440 Okay, I will.

01:44:37.240 But he says it's going to be Newsom and Hillary.

01:44:41.380 And I think that's what it's going to be.

01:44:43.540 Yep.

01:44:43.880 That's what I think it's going to be.

01:44:45.020 Who's going to be the president?

01:44:46.600 Newsom.

01:44:47.140 Newsom.

01:44:47.660 Oh, if that happens, I'm.

01:44:49.520 I know it's really hard. 1.00

01:44:51.160 And all the women, you know, who are dumber than women have ever been. 1.00

01:44:56.020 They are. 1.00

01:44:56.340 They are so stupid. 1.00

01:44:57.980 I don't know how they can walk, chew gum. 1.00

01:45:00.900 This is the part that's going to go viral.

01:45:02.780 Yeah.

01:45:03.480 Dr. Jean just said this.

01:45:06.060 Please cut that out.

01:45:07.240 I don't want to be a part of it.

01:45:08.860 I'll just blur your face.

01:45:10.120 No, okay.

01:45:11.080 Some women. 1.00

01:45:12.260 Okay. 1.00

01:45:13.220 No, she's saying they'll vote for a woman just because she has a vagina. 1.00

01:45:16.660 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:17.020 And that's the truth. 1.00

01:45:17.640 To me, you can't be more stupid than that. 1.00

01:45:19.280 Jews used to do that. 1.00

01:45:20.220 Well, it's just stupid. 1.00

01:45:22.320 That's why I'm going to vote for Michelle Obama because I have a penis. 1.00

01:45:25.940 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:45:28.880 We'll cut it out.

01:45:29.880 Thank you.

01:45:30.620 No, he can't be part of this, Jake.

01:45:32.380 We'll do that on our own.

01:45:33.340 I'm the one that edits this.

01:45:34.340 I'll take it out.

01:45:35.140 Yeah, he is.

01:45:35.540 But that was a good joke.

01:45:36.400 Let's be real.

01:45:36.900 And you're going to tell me off the air why there's going to be no election in 2024.

01:45:39.360 Yeah.

01:45:40.000 We should wrap up.

01:45:40.980 Okay, let's wrap up.

01:45:41.580 Okay.

01:45:42.240 I'll wrap it up with this.

01:45:43.540 We could talk all day.

01:45:44.540 I love talking to you.

01:45:44.620 You've got to come back.

01:45:45.700 Will you come back?

01:45:46.360 Yeah, of course.

01:45:46.780 We didn't get into anything I wanted to get into.

01:45:48.520 Oh, I know.

01:45:48.980 We didn't get into that.

01:45:49.440 I've been wanting to talk to you for 15 years.

01:45:51.300 About what did you want to talk about?

01:45:52.560 Well, I mean, mostly pharmaceutical drugs.

01:45:56.260 Yeah.

01:45:56.380 But that's another show.

01:45:57.480 Specific questions about specific medicines.

01:45:58.960 Let's do another show on that whole.

01:46:00.040 Well, we want to talk more about mental health, too.

01:46:01.840 Your childhood trauma stuff that's ruining everything, I'm with you on that.

01:46:05.560 I think most things are PTSD.

01:46:07.420 I think most problems are PTSD.

01:46:09.380 Ish, yeah.

01:46:10.260 In that zone, yeah, yeah.

01:46:11.840 And I think that the proper way to treat PTSD is through intensive therapy.

01:46:18.900 And I know medication does help.

01:46:21.600 I think it helps in line with additional therapy.

01:46:24.820 I don't think it's the only answer.

01:46:25.320 You know the kind of therapy.

01:46:26.240 So I just want to say I think people need to get back into intensive therapy.

01:46:29.280 I do, too.

01:46:30.220 And you know what the therapy is based on?

01:46:32.020 Not just pills.

01:46:32.460 Because this is what helped me with all my mental therapy.

01:46:35.160 Go ahead.

01:46:35.420 What is it based on?

01:46:36.960 Radical honesty.

01:46:38.280 Yes.

01:46:38.420 Okay.

01:46:39.000 No lies.

01:46:40.080 Yeah.

01:46:40.480 No falsehood.

01:46:41.980 Just radical honesty.

01:46:43.080 And just tearing yourself apart.

01:46:44.600 So I agree with everything wholeheartedly.

01:46:49.940 And the kind of work that I think works best that you're talking about is kind of the attunement stuff we were talking about an hour ago.

01:46:57.060 And I've watched it work like magic in mutual aid societies, like 12-step and things like that.

01:47:03.920 So people can do it with each other.

01:47:06.120 They can.

01:47:07.080 Yes.

01:47:07.580 You know, they can help each other.

01:47:09.240 And I've always been trying to figure a way to bottle this because there aren't enough therapists on earth to do what we need to what you're talking about.

01:47:14.660 I know.

01:47:14.880 And I do think, back to what we said a while ago, that the solution...

01:47:20.580 It's peer.

01:47:21.360 It's a peer.

01:47:21.740 And the solution is other people.

01:47:23.440 Yeah.

01:47:24.000 Now, it's spiritual also.

01:47:25.740 Yes.

01:47:26.760 But for me, the other people is where I find the spiritual.

01:47:30.720 So I get it all in one for me.

01:47:32.800 Most people need some both.

01:47:34.880 Right.

01:47:35.540 But we really have to find the answer in each other.

01:47:39.440 Yes.

01:47:40.020 Yeah, I agree.

01:47:40.460 And that's where God is, in my humble opinion.

01:47:43.000 That's what I totally agree.

01:47:44.880 Well said.

01:47:45.000 I totally agree that for me, it comes like through...

01:47:49.020 It will occur...

01:47:50.040 Something will occur to me that inspires me somehow to create something that moves people.

01:47:58.220 And it's very spiritual.

01:47:59.600 It does not get better than that, does it?

01:48:01.020 Yeah.

01:48:01.300 No, it doesn't.

01:48:02.100 Yeah.

01:48:02.260 We're here for others.

01:48:03.580 We're here to serve other people.

01:48:04.620 That's why we're here.

01:48:05.380 Yeah.

01:48:05.520 To keep the species going and be present for others and stuff.

01:48:08.240 And if you can be open enough, trusting enough to be there and fully present for somebody,

01:48:15.400 it's deeply satisfying.

01:48:16.400 We've all helped our friends through bad relationships and they've helped us.

01:48:19.200 There's helping people, but I'm talking about something a little more profound.

01:48:23.460 You're talking about the actual tuning and stuff that you were doing?

01:48:26.060 I'm talking about being really, really, really...

01:48:28.100 Could you teach people how to do that?

01:48:29.860 Maybe.

01:48:30.660 That'd be something to do.

01:48:31.200 You know what?

01:48:31.700 I got a call today from a friend that does kind of teach that.

01:48:34.340 Maybe I should explore that with her.

01:48:35.780 Let's...

01:48:36.820 I'm on a help.

01:48:37.140 It is really about being able to use your whole...

01:48:41.240 Not listen with your ears, but listen with your whole body.

01:48:43.760 Yeah.

01:48:44.140 That's cool.

01:48:45.040 Okay.

01:48:45.400 I would love to learn that.

01:48:46.680 Yeah, that would be a good thing.

01:48:47.140 I'm 100% serious.

01:48:48.340 This could be really important whenever you're cooking.

01:48:52.460 Call my buddy back on the way back.

01:48:53.940 Yeah, I'm going to hit you up a bit.

01:48:54.740 Well, we'll let you go.

01:48:54.840 Thank you, Rosanna.

01:48:55.440 It's been more fun.

01:48:56.680 I knew it would be good.

01:48:57.360 You are so fun to talk to.

01:48:58.240 Yeah, I know.

01:48:58.860 This is great.

01:48:59.560 I got to get you on my thing, too.

01:49:01.160 I want to be on your thing.

01:49:01.980 You can do it from here.

01:49:03.060 You'll just...

01:49:03.660 But if I go on your thing, I'll have to be tame.

01:49:06.820 No, you don't.

01:49:07.520 I don't?

01:49:08.040 No.

01:49:08.480 Oh, good.

01:49:09.100 My wife... 0.95

01:49:09.720 Really wife, though. 0.61

01:49:10.640 I think you would radicalize my wife. 1.00

01:49:14.240 I think she's already got very serious concerns about China and about they and things like

01:49:19.380 that.

01:49:19.720 She goes that way.

01:49:21.100 Oh, well, she's smart, then.

01:49:22.720 It is China. 0.82

01:49:23.740 She's aware.

01:49:24.720 You, I think, would radicalize her. 0.53

01:49:26.380 It would be very entertaining for me.

01:49:27.080 I'm trying to wake people up to the fact that their options are dwindling, and so are their

01:49:32.600 rights, for God's sake.

01:49:33.720 I just think that we must...

01:49:35.760 Everyone needs to be aware of the importance of freedom.

01:49:40.420 We all need to fight for it, whatever that is.

01:49:42.300 Just fight for it, fight for it, everybody.

01:49:43.740 Everybody.

01:49:44.320 Well, it's always a fight, too.

01:49:46.020 All right.

01:49:46.800 Thank you, Dr. Drew.

01:49:47.860 Great to be here.

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The Roseanne Barr Podcast - December 21, 2023

Dr. Drew tells Roseanne she is dead inside ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #027

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