The Roseanne Barr Podcast - ＂Im not sure how much time America has left＂ with Vivek Ramaswamy ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #029

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00:00:15.600 Hey everyone, it's Jake. I just wanted to say you're going to love this episode with Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:00:21.280 I just wanted to tell you two things real quick before it starts.

00:00:23.960 Number one is Vivek was very busy. We filmed this at Turning Point, so we only got him for 45 minutes.

00:00:28.820 So the last 15 minutes of this episode is me and my mom talking about the podcast and the episode with Vivek.

00:00:35.100 It's great. You'll love it. I just want to tell you that the camera that was on me, unfortunately, that media drive crashed and I lost it.

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00:00:46.860 But I work really hard to edit the show and make it enjoyable. It is going to be one straight shot of my mom with a sucker. 1.00

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00:02:17.260 Hi, everybody.

00:02:18.520 Greetings, earthlings and human beings.

00:02:22.680 I'm excited today on the Roseanne Barb podcast to have Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:02:30.580 Let's try that again.

00:02:31.400 You got it.

00:02:31.620 It's actually pretty.

00:02:32.300 That's the right way, right?

00:02:33.840 It's better than most.

00:02:35.120 I mean, it's Vivek like cake.

00:02:37.000 Okay.

00:02:37.380 Vivek.

00:02:37.780 It's like cake like cake.

00:02:38.420 Yeah, Vivek.

00:02:38.820 But I thought it was Vivek.

00:02:40.240 No, it's just Vivek.

00:02:41.740 Vivek, okay.

00:02:42.320 I mean, all TV hosts, I don't blame you.

00:02:44.260 Like, say it about 15 different ways.

00:02:46.700 Yeah.

00:02:47.400 Vivek like cake.

00:02:48.520 Vivek like cake.

00:02:50.060 Ramaswamy.

00:02:50.580 You got it.

00:02:51.260 Ramaswamy.

00:02:51.760 I knew that.

00:02:52.340 Now, what in the hell kind of name is Ramaswamy?

00:02:54.820 Oh, it's a good name.

00:02:55.620 It's a beautiful name.

00:02:56.240 Where'd you get that from?

00:02:58.100 It's from my parents, actually.

00:03:00.080 Believe it or not.

00:03:01.400 They came from India.

00:03:02.520 My parents came to this country 40 years ago with no money, but in search of opportunity.

00:03:08.560 And you were born here.

00:03:11.160 Yeah, of course.

00:03:12.000 Got to be.

00:03:12.920 Yes.

00:03:13.740 Oh, yeah.

00:03:14.200 Because you're running for...

00:03:15.080 Oh, yeah.

00:03:15.520 I forgot about that.

00:03:15.600 I was born in Cincinnati.

00:03:16.900 Cincinnati.

00:03:17.660 Now, where did your parents come from in India?

00:03:20.580 They came from a state called Kerala in southern India.

00:03:24.340 It's a pretty cool state, actually.

00:03:25.520 It's beautiful.

00:03:26.940 I think my dad was from a super rural part of southern India.

00:03:30.720 And so, he used to take us back during summers, because back then, my dad still had his parents

00:03:36.940 and I had their extended family.

00:03:37.940 My mom's parents were both there.

00:03:40.220 So, in the summers, when we were growing up, they would go back and it's like you couldn't...

00:03:45.880 I couldn't describe to you or to the people I would go to school with what that would

00:03:49.000 be like.

00:03:49.480 Because there's the urban parts of India, that's one thing.

00:03:51.460 But the rural parts are like, you would get sick every time you go.

00:03:55.180 You had to boil the water twice every time and then cool it before you drink it.

00:03:58.260 But there's no toilets.

00:03:59.600 It's all squatting.

00:04:01.920 That's how you go to the bathroom. 1.00

00:04:04.200 You want to take a shower, you use the stove to heat it up and then you mix that up with

00:04:07.400 cold water and take a bucket.

00:04:09.340 But it was a cool experience in that we grew up in solidly middle class circumstances in

00:04:16.500 Ohio.

00:04:17.660 My dad worked at GE.

00:04:18.760 My mom worked in nursing homes as a psychiatrist.

00:04:21.760 But we would go there.

00:04:22.960 And I think part of what my dad wanted us to see was to be grateful, I guess, not take

00:04:28.780 for granted the things that we had.

00:04:31.240 And it definitely had that effect, I would say, for our time growing up.

00:04:36.200 So, now, are you Hindu?

00:04:37.940 Yes, I am.

00:04:38.740 I love it!

00:04:40.140 All right, thank you.

00:04:41.060 One of the first I've met this week to have that strong of a positive reaction to it.

00:04:45.100 I love it.

00:04:45.280 I just gave him an interview with a different guy who says, well, how can you be president?

00:04:48.780 Who was that?

00:04:49.640 Well, I forgot his name, but he was asking it in a helpful way, because he says that's

00:04:54.920 the question that he gets from a lot of people in his following, too.

00:04:57.680 And he's a pastor.

00:04:58.480 He's actually very thoughtful.

00:05:00.920 But yeah, I am Hindu.

00:05:02.320 I left my faith, I would say, through my teenage years and early 20s, like many people do.

00:05:08.020 But I came back to it as an adult with conviction.

00:05:11.740 And I actually would say it's probably my faith that leads me to this journey of running

00:05:17.300 the president, because the core of my faith is there's one true God.

00:05:22.920 He puts us here for a purpose.

00:05:26.260 And he works through us.

00:05:27.540 And it's our job to realize our purpose.

00:05:32.120 And so, if that's what you believe, and this is sort of my purpose to use the God-given

00:05:36.720 skills that I've been given to do good in this country, the other core teaching of my

00:05:42.640 faith is we're still equal, even though God works through us in different ways.

00:05:47.240 We're equal because God resides in each of us.

00:05:49.520 And so, in many ways, it's my faith that leads me to do what I'm doing in my life.

00:05:53.700 My wife, Apoorva, she's a successful throat surgeon.

00:05:58.920 She's with me.

00:05:59.760 She's in Phoenix today, but she's at 7 a.m. tomorrow in Ohio, going to be treating patients,

00:06:05.200 cancer survivors in the operating room.

00:06:07.320 That's what guides her.

00:06:09.500 I did go to Christian schools.

00:06:10.760 I went to St. Xavier in Cincinnati, that's where I grew up.

00:06:14.640 And I will say that even though the faiths are different, we share the same value set

00:06:21.420 in common.

00:06:22.920 I read the Ten Commandments for the first time in ninth grade.

00:06:26.000 Really?

00:06:26.620 Yeah.

00:06:26.920 I was in scripture's class.

00:06:28.180 I was 14 years old.

00:06:28.900 Most Christians haven't even read that. 0.54

00:06:30.440 I say most Christians haven't even read that yet. 0.67

00:06:32.020 I think it's worth just sometimes even remembering what, saying what they are.

00:06:35.140 Yeah.

00:06:35.340 I mean, it's the Old Testament, so Jews, that includes, you know, same Ten Commandments.

00:06:40.760 That's one true God.

00:06:42.000 Right.

00:06:42.440 Yeah.

00:06:42.760 Don't take his name in vain.

00:06:44.060 Right.

00:06:44.760 Observe the Sabbath.

00:06:46.260 Keep it holy.

00:06:47.500 Yes.

00:06:48.080 Honor your parents.

00:06:49.220 That was a big one for us growing up.

00:06:50.500 Don't steal.

00:06:51.220 Don't steal.

00:06:51.720 Don't kill.

00:06:52.900 Don't commit adultery.

00:06:54.740 Don't covet.

00:06:55.440 Don't covet.

00:06:56.240 That's a big one.

00:06:56.880 Yeah.

00:06:57.060 You were saying Hinduism's a lot like Judaism.

00:06:59.360 Yeah.

00:06:59.700 Similar values.

00:07:00.760 Similar values.

00:07:01.040 So many people call themselves Hindu, right? 0.68

00:07:04.300 Jindus. 1.00

00:07:04.800 Yeah.

00:07:05.020 Jindus are Hindus, I've heard.

00:07:06.600 Hindus, yeah. 1.00

00:07:07.680 Yeah.

00:07:07.920 They're very similar.

00:07:10.080 Because there isn't a big conversion component in Judaism or in Hinduism.

00:07:13.940 Mm-hmm.

00:07:14.840 I think there are a lot of similarities.

00:07:16.240 Are you Jewish?

00:07:16.920 Mm-hmm.

00:07:17.580 She's a Jew, too.

00:07:18.780 Okay.

00:07:19.140 I thought some people were...

00:07:20.120 Okay.

00:07:20.560 Anyway.

00:07:20.960 She's the most Jewish person you've heard.

00:07:22.300 You are Jewish?

00:07:22.920 Yeah.

00:07:23.180 Practicing?

00:07:24.280 Oh, yeah.

00:07:24.820 Good.

00:07:25.420 Are you Orthodox?

00:07:26.020 I don't even need to practice anymore.

00:07:27.720 I'm so damn good at it.

00:07:28.920 I like that.

00:07:31.520 Practiced.

00:07:32.160 You're already...

00:07:32.920 So are you, like, Reform or Conservative Orthodox or not really a particular label?

00:07:40.160 I'm...

00:07:41.160 Definitely not Orthodox.

00:07:42.740 Well, I'm just the...

00:07:44.780 I keep the Shabbat. 0.99

00:07:45.760 I keep Shabbat. 0.96

00:07:46.760 You keep Shabbat. 0.84

00:07:47.400 Okay.

00:07:47.660 I observe all the holidays.

00:07:49.700 You keep Shabbat, like, to the extent you won't even turn on lights?

00:07:52.120 Well, yeah, mostly for the most part.

00:07:54.080 For the most part.

00:07:54.600 Yeah.

00:07:54.740 That's all we can do.

00:07:55.480 Yeah.

00:07:55.580 You know, I'm not...

00:07:56.560 Best efforts is what we...

00:07:57.840 You know, yeah.

00:07:58.260 But I will say that's...

00:07:59.460 I'm more...

00:07:59.960 It's more about meditation and, you know, renewal of yourselves.

00:08:06.940 That's the beauty of the Sabbath, actually, is...

00:08:09.820 In some ways, my wife, Borba, and I, we...

00:08:11.760 So we met at Yale.

00:08:13.500 I was in law school.

00:08:14.220 She was in med school.

00:08:14.900 But we were both part of the Jewish society at Yale called Shabtai.

00:08:18.760 We were just invited to it.

00:08:19.760 Oh.

00:08:20.380 The rabbi was there.

00:08:21.240 We ended up becoming friendly with him.

00:08:22.480 He's like, you got to join this.

00:08:23.840 But then every Friday night from, you know, sundown to...

00:08:27.380 We would go till midnight, 1 a.m., phones off, the men serve, you know.

00:08:32.420 I mean, it was very traditional.

00:08:33.480 And then he would have the continued full Saturday to sundown off with...

00:08:37.060 Wait, the men serve?

00:08:39.380 That's what they did in Shabtai. 0.98

00:08:40.100 Serve the women? 1.00

00:08:41.340 The men would serve the food.

00:08:44.340 Oh, really?

00:08:45.260 Yeah.

00:08:45.860 Yeah.

00:08:47.560 That's unusual.

00:08:48.360 Maybe that was that strand of tradition.

00:08:50.360 Yeah.

00:08:50.420 Shabtai, that sounds like one of those... 0.91

00:08:52.580 Shabtai. 0.55

00:08:53.220 Shabtai was the name of the society.

00:08:54.760 But the point is...

00:08:55.380 You know, there are so many different kinds of Jews.

00:08:57.660 Just like Hindus, too, by the way.

00:08:58.960 There's so many different kinds of Hindus, too.

00:09:00.260 Yeah.

00:09:00.700 No two are ever alike.

00:09:03.040 Like, there's not enough to get a coalition.

00:09:05.920 Trust me.

00:09:07.200 But they've got it all.

00:09:07.900 Hindus are the same way. 1.00

00:09:08.720 I'll tell you that.

00:09:09.480 The thing is about...

00:09:10.420 I would say the Hindus in America compared to Jews in America... 1.00

00:09:13.940 This is the point I was going to make is...

00:09:15.940 The Jews in America do a really good job of preserving the ancient traditions.

00:09:21.280 Yeah.

00:09:22.100 Somewhat.

00:09:23.340 Many...

00:09:23.900 Some do.

00:09:24.280 It's important to them.

00:09:25.100 Hindus definitely don't. 1.00

00:09:25.740 No.

00:09:25.920 I mean, Hindus completely let go. 1.00

00:09:27.900 Like, that doesn't...

00:09:28.720 That kind of community doesn't exist in the same way because...

00:09:33.880 Like, one of the things I think you have Christian pastors who will take the scripture and make

00:09:38.960 it come to life, right?

00:09:40.240 We've been to countless churches, including even this year, and even at St. X High School

00:09:44.080 and otherwise.

00:09:46.280 That's...

00:09:46.720 I think you have some rabbis who will do that.

00:09:49.120 Mm-hmm.

00:09:49.460 Maybe not quite to the level of evangelical Christians.

00:09:52.240 Right.

00:09:52.740 Mm-hmm.

00:09:52.960 And then Hindus are like the opposite end of the spectrum, where if you go to like a 1.00

00:09:57.420 Hindu temple, they wouldn't dare have conversations about the kinds of things we might be talking 1.00

00:10:04.040 about where we are right now in Phoenix at Amfest or otherwise.

00:10:07.220 Mm-hmm.

00:10:07.440 And much of it's done in Sanskrit, which is, you know, obviously an ancient language that

00:10:12.560 most people don't know what it means.

00:10:14.160 Right.

00:10:14.760 So it's sort of like Catholics before, you know, Vatican I or whatever the first convention 0.75

00:10:20.580 was.

00:10:21.020 But I think that one of the things I appreciate about evangelical Christians in certain segments

00:10:27.200 of certainly the Jewish American community is the ability to keep those traditions alive

00:10:31.080 and make it relevant, to make faith relevant to people in the present.

00:10:36.000 And that's something I think the Hindu American community could hopefully, you know, do a better

00:10:39.520 job of.

00:10:40.760 But it's a relatively recent immigration wave of Hindus to the U.S. over the last 50 years

00:10:46.300 or anyway.

00:10:47.120 So I think there's a lot of time for that in the future.

00:10:48.680 So what happens to Hindus, are you saying that they assimilate quicker and join, you know,

00:10:55.860 become Christian or Catholic or otherwise?

00:10:58.360 I think they stay Hindu, but it becomes, it takes on a more ritualistic quality without 0.98

00:11:07.180 necessarily having the kind of pastor figures who will make it applicable to the challenges

00:11:15.480 you face in daily modern life, right?

00:11:18.680 Modern life is, I mean, even if you just open up to a given page of the Old Testament

00:11:21.640 or the New Testament and just try to read it, it's not exactly like eating candy, right?

00:11:26.180 Yeah, you got to work to understand it.

00:11:28.360 You got to work to understand it.

00:11:28.880 And some of that work requires someone who is learned in that, but who lives in the present

00:11:36.020 and helps build those bridges to make that scripture come alive.

00:11:39.460 And that doesn't exist in the Hindu American community in the U.S.

00:11:44.160 I think it probably does in India, but in the version of it that exists in the U.S., so

00:11:50.560 far at least that's been missing.

00:11:52.620 But I think that's a beautiful thing.

00:11:54.440 And actually one of the things that took away from our time at Shabtai, the Jewish society

00:11:58.000 that Apoorva and I became part of at Yale was bringing an admiration for the people who

00:12:03.260 take an effort to read the ancient scriptures, but to bring that into the present.

00:12:07.200 Yeah, to make them present, yeah.

00:12:09.300 It's like, you know—

00:12:10.020 Because they're always applicable, or they should be.

00:12:12.480 They are applicable.

00:12:13.320 They're timeless.

00:12:13.620 Because they're moral stories, right?

00:12:15.520 They're timeless.

00:12:16.020 But the way they're written, sometimes you may need a rabbi or a priest or a pastor to

00:12:22.160 help you, you know, just—I mean, maybe some people.

00:12:25.500 I'm one of the people, if I opened up and read that myself, whether it's a Hindu scripture

00:12:29.600 or whether even it's the Old or New Testament at times, if you're just reading it raw, you

00:12:34.820 got to really put in the effort versus if you have somebody who has—and sometimes the

00:12:39.440 historical context, you know, always have it when you're reading it.

00:12:42.140 I love hearing people talk on it.

00:12:44.580 Yeah.

00:12:44.900 You know, interpret it and—

00:12:46.940 If they know what they're talking about.

00:12:48.740 Yeah.

00:12:49.160 It's always so interesting to me that these very old written things can be so relevant.

00:12:57.080 Where do you live, if you don't mind me asking?

00:12:58.520 I live in Texas and Hawaii and Los Angeles.

00:13:02.140 Okay.

00:13:03.380 Where in Hawaii?

00:13:03.920 But I'm traveling all over the place now.

00:13:05.440 Where in Hawaii?

00:13:06.180 I live on the big island of Hawaii.

00:13:09.180 So you probably have very—I've been there.

00:13:11.720 From my time there, one of the things I remember is the view of the stars in the sky at night.

00:13:15.900 Yes, it's beautiful.

00:13:16.960 It's like no place I've been like Hawaii at least are the places I've been.

00:13:20.020 They don't have light pollution.

00:13:20.660 So let me ask you this.

00:13:21.860 But I was going to say, I mean, just to finish the religious discussion of the analogy, you know, the rabbi used to use is, many of the stars you're seeing, maybe even most of them, don't exist.

00:13:36.680 Right.

00:13:37.080 They don't exist.

00:13:37.680 At the time you're seeing them.

00:13:38.480 Right.

00:13:38.760 But you still see the light.

00:13:41.080 Right.

00:13:41.800 And that's, I think, the way we think about those stories of scripture is you see the light in the present, even though the person whose light shines or who that star was named for is long gone.

00:13:54.280 And that's the way I think about the job of people to pass on tradition in this country.

00:14:00.620 Not just religious tradition, but you could say the same of our Declaration of Independence or our Constitution as well.

00:14:05.400 And I don't think we're doing a good enough job of that today either.

00:14:08.500 Not at all.

00:14:09.440 Not at all.

00:14:10.200 It's not existent.

00:14:10.820 So I want to ask you this one big old question.

00:14:13.580 Okay.

00:14:13.960 You don't really want this job, do you?

00:14:16.420 I don't covet the job.

00:14:18.240 Yeah.

00:14:18.640 To borrow our earlier discussion.

00:14:19.920 No, but you don't really want to be president of the United States, do you?

00:14:23.820 I expect to be president of the United States.

00:14:25.880 You're serious.

00:14:26.860 Oh, yeah.

00:14:27.260 You want to, though?

00:14:28.580 From a personal want perspective, there are parts of it that seem worse than a sharp poke in the eye.

00:14:33.300 But do I believe it's my duty to do this?

00:14:36.300 And do I believe we can lead a national revival?

00:14:38.820 And do I believe that's my purpose here?

00:14:42.040 That I believe that it is my moral duty to realize that purpose?

00:14:45.140 Yes.

00:14:46.040 Yes, I do.

00:14:47.060 Well, I like that you talk about Trump.

00:14:49.360 You know I love Trump.

00:14:50.620 Yeah, I like him too.

00:14:51.500 I know you do.

00:14:52.600 And you're so nice to him.

00:14:55.640 You're not stabbing him in the back or anything.

00:14:58.800 Like everybody else does.

00:14:59.980 Yeah.

00:15:00.140 Well, see, the funny thing is everybody else, like these people have been licking his boot for money and endorsement for years.

00:15:07.440 I haven't been.

00:15:08.440 I've just, I've been building businesses, right?

00:15:10.060 I'm, this world of politics is new terrain to me.

00:15:13.200 But I respect him for what he did for this country.

00:15:15.820 Because I know, like me, he didn't have to do what he's doing either.

00:15:18.760 Right.

00:15:19.200 And he kept us out of war.

00:15:20.820 Yeah, he did.

00:15:21.380 And he grew the economy.

00:15:22.640 Yeah.

00:15:22.860 And I give him a lot of credit for that.

00:15:26.580 I'm doing this for a reason, though.

00:15:28.440 Because what I see, so I'm 38.

00:15:31.860 I'm the youngest person ever to run for U.S. president as a Republican.

00:15:36.360 Mm-hmm.

00:15:38.340 And I will say this.

00:15:39.440 I think the next generation, my generation and people younger than me, they are lost.

00:15:44.860 Yeah.

00:15:45.080 Yeah, you're right about that.

00:15:46.160 Totally lost.

00:15:46.780 I mean, just directionless for purpose and meaning.

00:15:49.960 And I think I'm going to be able to provide them that sense of direction and purpose and meaning and identity even better than Donald Trump or anybody else in this race.

00:16:03.720 Because it takes somebody with fresh legs from the next generation to reach the next generation.

00:16:09.980 I mean, that's the hard truth.

00:16:11.100 But there's a reason why Thomas Jefferson was only 33 when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.

00:16:17.500 Mm-hmm.

00:16:18.420 These revolutions, these revivals, they tend to be led by the next generation.

00:16:23.640 And so I respect the hell out of Trump for what he did for this country.

00:16:28.360 But the America First agenda doesn't belong to him.

00:16:31.080 And it doesn't belong to me.

00:16:32.540 And it doesn't belong to you.

00:16:33.700 It belongs to the people of this country.

00:16:35.920 Yeah, that's right.

00:16:36.740 And I believe whether it's going to be 2024 or 2028, the America First agenda outlives Donald Trump.

00:16:43.100 Hopefully it outlives all of us.

00:16:45.080 I don't think we're working with that much time, though.

00:16:47.460 I think it needs – I think right now, if my kids – I'm a father of two sons.

00:16:53.820 If my older son is in high school before we get this right, I don't think we have a country left.

00:17:00.700 I agree.

00:17:01.280 I really don't think we're working with that kind of time.

00:17:03.320 And so I couldn't be some idle bystander.

00:17:05.720 I mean, like you, I'm sure – as I'm sure I expect is true of you, we live a blessed life.

00:17:11.740 Yeah.

00:17:12.040 I mean, my parents would never imagine the life that we live when they came to this country 40 years ago. 1.00

00:17:19.060 Or even when we were growing up, as my dad was facing layoffs at GE, to imagine that we're living the blessed life that we have right now.

00:17:27.540 I found in multibillion-dollar companies, my wife is a throat surgeon caring for cancer survivors.

00:17:33.280 She doesn't do it for the money. 1.00

00:17:34.120 She does it for saving people's lives. 0.77

00:17:37.480 That's the American dream.

00:17:38.980 Yeah, it is.

00:17:39.820 But I don't think our kids are going to have access to that unless we step up and actually save it.

00:17:45.260 Is that why you –

00:17:45.760 And I do think I can do it.

00:17:46.700 Is that why you want to run?

00:17:48.140 Yeah.

00:17:48.380 Explain how you went from creating businesses to getting into politics.

00:17:52.940 Yeah.

00:17:53.080 I mean, my wake-up call was probably – even before I went into politics, but probably my eye-opening moment was in 2020.

00:18:02.840 So I was about six years, close to seven years, to being the CEO of this biotech company that I founded.

00:18:08.200 I was leading it as CEO.

00:18:09.580 I oversaw the development of a number of medicines.

00:18:12.820 Five of them are FDA-approved today.

00:18:14.640 One of them is a life-saving therapy in kids, which is the one I'm most proud of.

00:18:19.300 Anyway, I was leading that company as CEO.

00:18:22.680 Finally, it's a multibillion-dollar company.

00:18:24.440 We've got 1,000 employees, whatever.

00:18:26.080 I've come up for air.

00:18:28.100 Before that, it was 100-hour work weeks for six years.

00:18:33.740 And we have our first son.

00:18:35.180 I think he's born in February of that year.

00:18:37.200 And I think there's something about being a dad that, for me, just did change my perspective.

00:18:43.160 It did for me, too.

00:18:43.800 About what's important.

00:18:44.440 How are your kids?

00:18:45.260 She's two and a half.

00:18:46.240 Oh, that's her right there. 1.00

00:18:46.880 That's her right there, yeah. 0.99

00:18:47.700 And we have another one on the way, but yeah.

00:18:49.200 Oh, good for you guys.

00:18:50.020 My first.

00:18:50.720 Good for you.

00:18:51.200 It did change me.

00:18:51.660 And having two is a blessing that I didn't imagine when her second was born.

00:18:56.360 My first one was born in February of 2020.

00:18:58.860 And I don't know if you guys remember that, but he was actually born in New York City when my wife was finishing her training as an airway surgeon.

00:19:04.960 COVID.

00:19:05.560 COVID.

00:19:05.800 That was the first wave.

00:19:07.300 This was before people knew what the hell this was.

00:19:09.140 Right.

00:19:09.760 And so she's an airway surgeon. 1.00

00:19:12.020 And she's like, all right, I believe that I've been given gifts.

00:19:15.280 And they had a big doctor shortage in New York for the very first wave.

00:19:18.180 Right.

00:19:18.500 I mean, say what you will about the COVID policy craziness.

00:19:21.120 That first wave, it was like, oh, there's something going on here in New York City.

00:19:24.980 The hospitals were overrun.

00:19:26.700 And so she actually made a pretty brave decision.

00:19:28.740 She said three weeks in, nobody knows anything about the virus.

00:19:33.360 She's going in to do open airway surgery for serious patients who had COVID.

00:19:37.980 And so she had to separate for those weeks because especially for a newborn three weeks old, nobody knows what this is.

00:19:43.680 So I took care of him for about a month and a half while she was taking care of patients doing airway surgery on the front lines.

00:19:48.540 She got it.

00:19:49.520 She got over it, et cetera.

00:19:51.260 Her dad got it too.

00:19:52.360 He was a surgeon.

00:19:53.480 He ended up in the ICU for the better part of a couple weeks.

00:19:56.980 And so that ended up being a pretty tumultuous period.

00:19:59.440 But I had a chance to – actually, I was traveling all over the country and the world and to take that time to be grounded with him.

00:20:05.780 So you were the CEO of a biotech company and raising a newborn?

00:20:08.920 Yes.

00:20:09.380 Okay.

00:20:09.760 Yes.

00:20:10.120 Fascinating.

00:20:10.460 And so I actually first actually took like a couple months, not like a full hiatus, but elevated other people at the company.

00:20:18.140 And then that provided me some space.

00:20:20.440 I was reflecting.

00:20:21.380 It makes you think about the why.

00:20:22.780 So anyway, you fast forward a couple months and then in May of that year, George Floyd dies and there are these BLM, Black Lives Matter protests across this country.

00:20:33.540 And then the most bizarre thing happens.

00:20:36.340 Did you think that was a PSYOP?

00:20:38.400 I think it was a disaster, whatever it was.

00:20:42.520 It was a disaster across this country.

00:20:44.640 But the fun – the weirdest thing that happens, suddenly there's a demand, just like every other tech and biotech company CEO is doing, that I make a statement on behalf of Black Lives Matter.

00:20:56.000 And I refuse to do it.

00:20:57.340 I said, no.

00:20:57.940 I don't – A, I don't agree with their values.

00:20:59.400 B, that's not the job of a company.

00:21:00.740 Right.

00:21:00.900 And so, lo and behold, that generates a series of controversies.

00:21:06.280 Mm-hmm.

00:21:07.020 And following January, by the next January, multiple advisors to my company's advisory board had resigned.

00:21:12.480 Wow.

00:21:12.780 Oh, my God.

00:21:13.480 And so I had to make a choice.

00:21:15.380 Mm-hmm.

00:21:15.620 Am I going to bend the knee to this new stakeholder capitalism cult?

00:21:19.340 Yeah.

00:21:19.920 Mm-hmm.

00:21:20.100 Or am I going to speak my mind freely?

00:21:21.840 And I decided – so that was – anyway, you brought me what led me to this journey from being a businessman.

00:21:25.100 Man, that's the first time I said, you know what, I'm going to speak my mind freely as a citizen.

00:21:31.800 Yep.

00:21:32.160 I stepped down from my job as a biotech company CEO to speak my mind freely.

00:21:36.400 I wrote a book called Woke Inc.

00:21:38.100 Mm-hmm.

00:21:38.760 At the time I wrote it, the publisher's main concern is nobody would know what the word woke was.

00:21:43.720 So they're not going to buy a book.

00:21:44.720 I ended up being –

00:21:45.660 Know what they know.

00:21:46.340 And it was – well, I think my book actually helped elevate that and I'm proud of that.

00:21:50.560 I wrote a series of books afterwards.

00:21:51.860 I still didn't think I was going to run for president.

00:21:52.900 Do you think that woke stuff is just Stalinism?

00:21:56.080 Yeah, it's modern Stalinism.

00:21:58.200 Mm-hmm.

00:21:58.700 I think that – let's go a layer deeper.

00:22:02.560 Yeah.

00:22:02.680 Mm-hmm.

00:22:03.720 So I think the woke stuff actually – so for a while – and I still am every bit as opposed to it as I was.

00:22:12.320 But it can prove to be a bit of a distraction at times.

00:22:15.320 Yeah.

00:22:15.920 Because what happens is you get – I take the Wall Street version of this.

00:22:19.720 So I got my first job in the fall of 2007 at a hedge fund right before the 08 financial crisis.

00:22:25.640 Remember the 08 financial crisis?

00:22:26.980 Yeah.

00:22:27.080 Mm-hmm.

00:22:27.280 And the bailouts.

00:22:28.940 Well, what happened was there was this woke left and then there was the Occupy Wall Street left.

00:22:32.840 Mm-hmm.

00:22:33.100 The Occupy Wall Street left said we want to take money from those wealthy bankers and give it to poor people to help poor people.

00:22:38.860 Wall Street didn't like that very much.

00:22:40.280 So what they said is, hey, we'll do the thing the woke left wants us to do, diversity and inclusion.

00:22:45.500 Oh.

00:22:46.060 Put some token minorities on your boards. 0.93

00:22:48.720 Muse about the racially disparate impact of climate change after you fly in a private jet to Davos.

00:22:53.900 Yeah.

00:22:54.120 That's pretty good work if you can get it, but it proves to be a distraction.

00:22:57.120 It's what I call woke smoke to deflect accountability for the bailouts.

00:23:02.120 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:03.480 Hello.

00:23:04.080 I mean, hello, right?

00:23:04.880 So the same thing you see in the military.

00:23:07.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:07.460 I mean, I don't know about you, but I'm against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:23:10.480 I think they were completely and totally pointless for this country.

00:23:14.060 They were good for private contractors.

00:23:15.900 They were excellent for private contractors.

00:23:17.580 And opium.

00:23:18.040 People who made money on that.

00:23:19.040 If you like heroin and opium, it was good too.

00:23:21.740 It's good for people who have private vested interests.

00:23:24.300 How about vested interest socializing the risk and privatizing the profits?

00:23:30.820 That's exactly it.

00:23:31.440 I mean, that was the 2008 bailouts.

00:23:33.660 Mm-hmm.

00:23:33.820 Yeah.

00:23:34.000 That's exactly it.

00:23:34.880 So my point is, in the military, the same thing.

00:23:36.880 So the left used to hit the right for the bailouts, because Bush did the bailouts.

00:23:40.760 But then they said, don't worry, we're going to say the stuff you, the left, want us to

00:23:43.500 say, woke smoke.

00:23:44.720 So the same thing happens after the Iraq war.

00:23:46.880 The left used to be the anti-war party.

00:23:49.000 Right.

00:23:49.340 The Democrat party.

00:23:50.400 But then if you're General Mark Milley, you know who that is?

00:23:52.740 Yeah.

00:23:53.220 So if you're General Mark Milley, you'd rather say, hey, hey, don't hit me for that.

00:23:56.880 I'll just talk about systemic racism and white rage.

00:23:59.900 Wow.

00:24:00.260 So it's a deflection.

00:24:01.460 It's woke smoke.

00:24:02.600 And it works.

00:24:03.240 It works.

00:24:03.840 And it's Silicon Valley.

00:24:05.440 Right.

00:24:05.580 The old version of breakup big tech used to come from the left.

00:24:11.360 Right.

00:24:11.840 But then they say, hey, no, no, don't worry about it, guys.

00:24:13.460 We'll censor hate speech and misinformation as you define it.

00:24:17.940 Mm-hmm.

00:24:18.240 But hey, leave our monopoly power intact.

00:24:20.020 Exactly.

00:24:20.380 And it works.

00:24:21.240 Wow.

00:24:21.420 So that's what I've realized.

00:24:22.280 It all just serves the corporate state.

00:24:24.980 Totally.

00:24:25.740 Totally.

00:24:26.020 The permanent state.

00:24:27.540 So it's not – so the wokeism is Stalinism, et cetera.

00:24:30.980 And I agree with all of that.

00:24:31.980 And it's a poisonous philosophy.

00:24:33.580 But its real relevance to us in America today is it's a deflection tool where the permanent

00:24:42.220 bureaucracy, the permanent state, the actual shadow government, both within and outside the

00:24:48.700 government.

00:24:48.940 I mean, the swamp doesn't just live in D.C.

00:24:50.440 It lives in all parts of the country.

00:24:51.940 Anyway, it's a way for them to deflect criticism from the left in what you call an arranged

00:25:00.120 marriage.

00:25:01.160 Mm-hmm.

00:25:01.660 I guess there's a good arrangement.

00:25:03.620 My parents had an arranged marriage.

00:25:04.560 That's a good kind.

00:25:05.320 I don't mean that.

00:25:06.260 This is less of an arranged marriage of love.

00:25:09.120 It is more like mutual prostitution.

00:25:12.960 Do you trust anything that's being parroted out of the mouth of so-called experts on the

00:25:19.160 TV?

00:25:19.980 No.

00:25:20.280 When I hear trust the experts, I know they're lying.

00:25:22.420 After the last three years, I just don't trust anybody.

00:25:25.720 Me either.

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00:25:40.000 It comes with meds like what?

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00:25:46.420 You read those, Jake.

00:25:47.800 Ivermectin.

00:25:48.560 Oh, yeah.

00:25:48.940 That's the big one.

00:25:49.780 And Z-Pack.

00:25:50.440 That's the horse-paced Z-Pack.

00:25:52.400 And it also has a 22-page guidebook, which is basically like having a doctor on call.

00:25:56.580 Yeah.

00:25:57.000 You don't have to go on WebMD and see if you have cancer.

00:26:00.260 I got to get one of those for everybody for Christmas.

00:26:03.240 Yeah.

00:26:03.500 That would be a great...

00:26:04.300 And a satellite phone.

00:26:05.000 A good Christmas present?

00:26:05.940 That would.

00:26:06.280 I don't know what I'm doing, so write me down and get me that mail.

00:26:08.440 I will.

00:26:09.060 And liberal, our liberal, your liberal children... 0.68

00:26:12.020 Oh, hell. 0.59

00:26:12.500 I'll even give them one.

00:26:13.660 They would love, they love Ivermectin.

00:26:15.520 They're huge fans of Ivermectin.

00:26:16.280 Now they're huge fans after Joe Rogan came out with it.

00:26:19.300 No, that was when it was horse-paced.

00:26:21.160 But yeah, anyway.

00:26:22.020 So yeah.

00:26:22.600 TWC.health forward slash RB.

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00:26:27.760 Mm-hmm.

00:26:28.020 And the net result of that is the birth of this woke industrial complex, right?

00:26:34.580 This hybrid monster of state power and corporate power that together accomplish...

00:26:40.400 Fascism.

00:26:41.240 Fascism.

00:26:41.880 You got it.

00:26:42.380 Mussolini's definition of fascism.

00:26:43.840 That's exactly what it was.

00:26:45.840 And I think that's the real threat today.

00:26:47.620 It's not just big government, what it was in 1980.

00:26:50.360 Yeah.

00:26:50.660 It's communism and fascism.

00:26:53.760 That's right.

00:26:54.240 Both.

00:26:54.520 And corporatism.

00:26:55.380 It isn't that they melded.

00:26:56.900 That's exactly what this is.

00:26:58.280 That's exactly what this is.

00:26:59.300 It's modern corporatist fascism.

00:27:00.460 It's a hybrid.

00:27:01.620 Yeah.

00:27:01.820 It's exactly right.

00:27:02.500 And I think we need leaders who understand that.

00:27:05.260 Somebody who you can't just recite slogans you memorized in 1980.

00:27:09.080 It's like Dorothy might have said to Toto in The Wizard of Oz, right?

00:27:12.680 Mm-hmm.

00:27:12.860 Yeah.

00:27:13.320 We're not in 1980 anymore.

00:27:15.000 Right.

00:27:16.440 And so anyway, that comes back to why I think and I expect to be the next president of the United States.

00:27:20.580 Well, you didn't...

00:27:21.420 Let me put you on the spot here.

00:27:23.700 Let's see how smart you are.

00:27:25.280 Well, probably not enough to know the answer to whatever you're going to ask me.

00:27:28.300 You know, I ran for president in 2012.

00:27:30.420 Did you know that?

00:27:31.280 You ran in 2012?

00:27:32.220 Uh-huh.

00:27:32.520 I did not.

00:27:33.880 I didn't win.

00:27:34.700 So you had the experience.

00:27:35.740 So you didn't win.

00:27:36.260 Yeah.

00:27:36.340 I had the experience of fighting my ass off to get on three state ballots.

00:27:43.540 Awesome.

00:27:45.340 I got 60,000 votes on three state ballots.

00:27:51.140 And my vote count was under a dollar per vote.

00:27:56.740 Amazing.

00:27:57.880 It is.

00:27:58.980 Wait, you spent less than that?

00:28:01.120 Uh-huh.

00:28:01.320 She did it all on Skype.

00:28:03.220 Yeah.

00:28:03.480 Imagine what you would have done with modern social media. 0.99

00:28:06.280 You might have actually just won the damn thing. 0.99

00:28:08.380 I could have. 0.99

00:28:09.260 But I saw Trump take a lot of my ideas, which are just populist ideas, that I think all smart

00:28:17.160 people would come to us.

00:28:18.580 Yeah.

00:28:18.820 Just as a matter of fact, right?

00:28:20.860 Yeah.

00:28:21.020 So what's the first thing you do?

00:28:22.540 Say you did get put in there.

00:28:24.900 Okay.

00:28:25.180 What would you do day one?

00:28:26.840 Cut 75% of the federal bureaucracy.

00:28:28.900 Love it.

00:28:29.620 Mass firing.

00:28:30.420 Uh-huh.

00:28:30.540 Not a chisel.

00:28:31.520 Bring the chainsaw. 0.75

00:28:32.440 Yeah.

00:28:32.720 Yeah.

00:28:33.040 You're talking about super drain the super swamp.

00:28:37.260 Ultra drain.

00:28:37.980 Yeah.

00:28:38.220 Yeah.

00:28:38.360 Ultra drain.

00:28:39.040 I mean, I'm just...

00:28:40.040 So I'm actually...

00:28:41.120 People don't like it when I say it's a thing.

00:28:42.280 You like that guy in Argentina?

00:28:43.780 I like him a lot.

00:28:44.760 I liked him even when he first started running.

00:28:47.640 We're going to get that done here.

00:28:48.680 I mean, it's that model here.

00:28:49.760 And then, you know, I'm...

00:28:51.780 I mean, I think there's...

00:28:52.700 I'm a libertarian internationalist combined.

00:28:55.120 Yeah.

00:28:55.300 That's kind of what I think about as my philosophy.

00:28:57.820 And so the administrative agencies are the hybrid that...

00:29:02.360 That hybrid of state and corporate power, a lot of that's mediated through the administrative

00:29:06.020 state.

00:29:06.480 Shut that down. 0.96

00:29:07.160 Yeah.

00:29:07.520 Absolutely.

00:29:08.260 Then as commander in chief, use our own military.

00:29:10.900 Here's a radical idea.

00:29:12.820 Crazy idea.

00:29:14.120 Instead of using our own military to protect somebody else's border halfway around the world

00:29:18.780 or send supplies to some Ukrainian kleptocrat can buy a bigger house.

00:29:22.460 Instead of that, how about we use our own military to protect our own border?

00:29:28.220 Hey, there's an idea.

00:29:29.680 Yeah.

00:29:30.120 And I can do that on day one as commander in chief.

00:29:32.160 Yeah.

00:29:32.400 That's so hard though for Israel though, right?

00:29:34.800 What's that?

00:29:35.000 Not to put you on the spot, but I agree with you about Ukraine, but Israel, just personally

00:29:38.400 speaking.

00:29:38.880 Well, actually, I can tell you about my view on this.

00:29:40.700 Okay, well.

00:29:41.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:41.760 I don't mind.

00:29:42.500 Just answer it.

00:29:43.060 I really, I'm not a, I'm not a tiptoer.

00:29:45.440 You're not afraid.

00:29:46.160 I know.

00:29:46.340 I'm not a tiptoer.

00:29:46.800 I like that about you.

00:29:48.400 Yeah.

00:29:48.740 I mean, I'd rather speak my mind and lose an election than to win by playing snakes and

00:29:52.220 ladders.

00:29:52.540 But here's what I'd say.

00:29:53.780 I think I have a more deeply pro-American view and pro-Israel view than anybody else

00:29:57.920 in this race, but it's different.

00:29:59.080 Yeah.

00:29:59.620 It's different than the traditional view.

00:30:01.880 So here's my view.

00:30:03.480 Do you know who David Ben-Gurion is?

00:30:05.000 Of course.

00:30:05.880 Okay.

00:30:06.360 Okay.

00:30:06.660 He's the founder of Israel.

00:30:08.180 One of them.

00:30:08.440 He's the George Washington figure of Israel.

00:30:09.900 Yeah.

00:30:10.820 Same hairdo.

00:30:11.820 So Ben-Gurion, George Washington.

00:30:14.440 Yeah.

00:30:14.860 These guys are like the OGs, right?

00:30:16.420 Yeah.

00:30:16.640 So David Ben-Gurion is about five feet tall, but he's a mighty man.

00:30:19.560 Okay.

00:30:20.560 His view was that Israel has a right to exist.

00:30:26.080 If the hundreds of millions of Abraham's sons by way of Ishmael get 22 countries or whatever, 0.53

00:30:33.100 the sons of Abraham by way of Isaac get one.

00:30:35.260 Right.

00:30:35.860 And we don't need to ask the West, including America, for permission or for forgiveness.

00:30:41.460 Right.

00:30:41.620 We're going to defend ourselves and need the ability to do it.

00:30:43.900 That was the premise of Israel. 0.90

00:30:45.260 That's right.

00:30:45.780 So my view is look at what's happening now, right?

00:30:48.260 You got Biden maybe dangling a small check over here, but then believing that that has

00:30:52.480 a say in terms of what Israel does or doesn't do to defend itself.

00:30:55.000 I view it differently.

00:30:56.300 We should not intervene.

00:30:58.800 That's not only better for the United States, it's also better for Israel.

00:31:04.100 They're able to get the job done.

00:31:05.540 They need to get done.

00:31:06.460 The IDF can go in and out and get Hamas taken out or whatever they need to do.

00:31:10.160 I mean, certainly the leadership thereof or whatever they need to do.

00:31:13.340 That's Israel's decision to make. 0.92

00:31:14.920 That's our decision to make.

00:31:16.260 But if we muddy the waters and we're involved, A, we're then accountable for what they do.

00:31:20.460 Right.

00:31:21.000 Which creates risk for the United States, but also which requires the United States to then

00:31:23.780 ask questions to second guess what Israel does.

00:31:26.720 So I don't think Israel wants an armchair quarterback.

00:31:28.660 But the United States in the back.

00:31:29.980 No, but they like the funding.

00:31:31.360 What's that?

00:31:31.820 They like the funding.

00:31:32.500 But I think that what's better for them is if they had to choose between the two. 1.00

00:31:36.020 That is such bullshit. 1.00

00:31:37.500 The United States is a bad boyfriend. 1.00

00:31:40.280 Absolutely.

00:31:41.380 It is funding both sides of that war.

00:31:44.020 That's also true. 0.68

00:31:44.860 And it's disgusting.

00:31:45.180 We should not be doing any of that. 0.78

00:31:46.320 It's disgusting. 0.84

00:31:47.140 All that Palestinian aid. 0.99

00:31:48.140 I'm against that.

00:31:48.940 They give more to them.

00:31:50.080 I say.

00:31:50.220 They do.

00:31:50.760 And get rid of that too.

00:31:51.700 Yeah.

00:31:51.980 Get rid of it. 0.85

00:31:52.340 What the heck?

00:31:52.800 We're $34 trillion in the whole.

00:31:54.100 Why are we doing this Palestinian aid?

00:31:56.180 Yeah.

00:31:56.440 We've been doing it for a long time.

00:31:57.420 Don't you think Obama's the president, not Biden?

00:32:00.180 I'll tell you, it's a machine that's the president. 0.99

00:32:03.080 Biden is a puppet. 0.99

00:32:05.620 Yeah. 0.51

00:32:06.280 I mean, people think his cognitive defects and they're using it against him.

00:32:09.200 His cognitive defects are not a bug.

00:32:10.820 They are a feature. 0.88

00:32:12.220 I mean, that's the truth because he makes him a puppet.

00:32:14.740 Yeah.

00:32:15.100 For the people pulling his strings, right? 0.65

00:32:16.820 He's a little puppet.

00:32:17.960 And you know what's funny right now is now his popularity is tanking a little bit.

00:32:22.440 Now you're hearing about the Biden documents case and the Hunter Biden stuff.

00:32:26.860 Why now after all these years?

00:32:28.740 It's because they're going to move him out of the way and pull out their next little puppet

00:32:31.640 who they trot out in about March.

00:32:33.580 That's what it's going to be.

00:32:34.200 That's what everybody says.

00:32:35.200 Who do you think it's going to be?

00:32:36.180 I don't think they can do that.

00:32:36.580 You think it's going to be.

00:32:37.120 I've been saying that for a long time.

00:32:38.020 I don't know other people are saying that.

00:32:38.780 I've been saying it's going to be March for a long time because that's when Trump's trials

00:32:41.060 are going to be well underway.

00:32:41.640 Yeah.

00:32:42.460 So they're going to pop that out.

00:32:44.660 Who do you think?

00:32:45.580 Newsom.

00:32:46.480 Yeah.

00:32:46.720 Because he wants it.

00:32:47.600 He does want it.

00:32:48.600 He wants it so bad.

00:32:49.480 Yeah.

00:32:49.680 He does want it.

00:32:50.540 Yeah.

00:32:50.700 Usually the person who wants it most badly in that kind of scenario is the one that gets

00:32:53.520 it.

00:32:54.560 The only exception might be.

00:32:55.520 They're going to have a tough time selling him what with the way California looks and

00:32:59.800 what he did to it.

00:33:00.780 Oh, but the one assumption you're making there is that truth matters.

00:33:05.700 Yeah.

00:33:05.900 Yeah.

00:33:07.620 And distilled by the media, certainly the mainstream media, people outside of California are going

00:33:14.420 to think that this was the promised land, the land of milk and honey is what they're going

00:33:18.920 to sell once Newsom's the nominee.

00:33:21.240 And so.

00:33:21.760 Oh, he's just all about crony.

00:33:25.120 Oh, yeah.

00:33:25.480 I mean, the, the, uh, you know, I'd need, uh, I need some hand sanitizer if we're, if

00:33:30.460 we're going to be in, in, in touching distance of Gavin Newsom on a debate stage.

00:33:34.920 But I'll tell you that, uh, very, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of oil that probably rubs

00:33:39.040 off of that.

00:33:39.620 But, you know, that, that's just the reality is he's just another puppet. 0.99

00:33:43.640 He's just another puppet. 0.96

00:33:45.460 It almost, and this is where I think.

00:33:47.360 Who do you think's at the top of the puppet show? 0.63

00:33:49.800 It's a machine.

00:33:50.820 Okay.

00:33:51.560 See, I used to think, is it Susan Rice or is it Barack Obama or the Clintons?

00:33:55.160 It's, it's deeper than that.

00:33:57.840 You think it's what?

00:33:58.700 DARPA?

00:33:59.500 It's the machine.

00:34:00.840 It is, it is, it is a horizontal faceless managerial class.

00:34:06.440 It is what Thomas Hobbes called the Leviathan.

00:34:08.780 That's what this is.

00:34:09.800 And so that's why we need to go in there with a jackhammer and break the machine.

00:34:13.220 I can buy that because that's exactly what it seems.

00:34:15.920 That's what it is.

00:34:17.020 Yeah.

00:34:17.240 An American, an American nightmare. 0.97

00:34:19.020 That's what it is.

00:34:19.900 It's a machine here or is it a, because it's, this is a global.

00:34:23.060 It has to be, right?

00:34:23.800 It's transnational.

00:34:24.420 See, the three letter agencies here, I'm going to shut them down. 1.00

00:34:27.380 Good.

00:34:27.840 You know, FBI, ATF, CDC, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Department of Education.

00:34:33.600 We've got a whole list.

00:34:34.680 Food and nutrition services.

00:34:36.040 What the hell are they doing in the Department of Ag?

00:34:37.840 Making everyone fat. 0.62

00:34:38.840 Right.

00:34:39.180 Yeah.

00:34:39.320 Exactly.

00:34:39.780 So, I mean, we've got a whole list we're going to shut down, but it's transnational.

00:34:45.160 UN.

00:34:46.260 Yeah.

00:34:46.460 W-H-O. 1.00

00:34:47.860 Yeah.

00:34:48.760 Arguably, potentially, N-A-T-O. 1.00

00:34:50.860 Right?

00:34:51.240 You go straight down the list.

00:34:52.420 So, the managerial class, what we call a swamp, it's transnational.

00:34:57.580 Well, we're paying for all that stuff.

00:34:58.760 Yeah, we are.

00:34:59.600 Yeah, we are.

00:35:00.040 So, it's like, we just need to defund all of this.

00:35:03.540 Yes, we do.

00:35:04.180 Stop using-

00:35:04.540 Like, we've created our own enemy.

00:35:06.840 We have.

00:35:07.360 We pay for our own enemy.

00:35:08.400 It's a form of self-loathing.

00:35:09.940 We pay for the global climate cult that shackles the United States.

00:35:13.240 Yeah.

00:35:13.580 That bites the hand that feeds it, the United States, while leaving China untouched. 0.70

00:35:17.900 And they're the big poisoner.

00:35:19.540 Oh, China's laughing at every step of the way. 1.00

00:35:21.160 The number one polluter.

00:35:22.400 Of course.

00:35:23.460 China burned more coal last year than they ever have.

00:35:26.200 The U.S. burned less coal than we ever have.

00:35:28.540 The very people who are opposed to fossil fuels in the United States are also the ones who are opposed to nuclear energy.

00:35:35.760 Why?

00:35:36.760 Because nuclear energy might be too good at solving the problem, the alleged problem, but it has nothing to do with the climate.

00:35:44.000 It has to do with letting China catch up to the U.S., what they call global equity.

00:35:48.240 And guess which country has the most advanced nuclear reactor?

00:35:50.540 It's China. 0.90

00:35:51.960 So, I could go on all day on this, but here's the reality.

00:35:56.360 That's why I didn't like Obama and why I ran against him, because his biggest donors were nuclear tech.

00:36:04.680 Oh, really?

00:36:05.200 Yeah.

00:36:05.840 He took more money from nuke folk.

00:36:08.360 Oh, interesting.

00:36:08.980 And I was like, oh my God, he's a nuke car salesman.

00:36:12.900 He's a used nuke.

00:36:14.180 Did you say that in your line?

00:36:15.720 Yeah, he's a used nuke salesman.

00:36:17.780 But he was also a guy who pushed this climate agenda that Al Gore kind of set into motion.

00:36:22.440 Yeah.

00:36:22.620 I'll say one thing here is, part of this is, it goes back to the first discussion we were having.

00:36:29.060 It's unrelated, we think, but the discussion about faith and tradition.

00:36:33.820 Yeah.

00:36:34.060 People are lost.

00:36:36.680 And when you're lost for purpose and meaning, you're going to bend the knee to something.

00:36:45.340 Mm-hmm.

00:36:45.500 So climate has become a substitute for God.

00:36:49.640 Yeah, in a way.

00:36:50.820 It's become a new temple of worship.

00:36:52.780 Mm-hmm.

00:36:53.360 And then if you believe that you're doing this with a religious instinct, then they can convince you to do anything.

00:36:58.340 I mean, Greta Thunberg is like a modern Joan of Arc, right? 0.74

00:37:01.200 I mean, it's child abuse of a mentally deranged teenager. 0.59

00:37:04.220 Yeah.

00:37:04.260 I have to be careful what I say about her because it's mean. 1.00

00:37:06.800 Okay.

00:37:07.240 Well, I will just say that it's a modern Joan of Arc type of figure.

00:37:10.960 Yeah.

00:37:11.000 Well, Joan of Arc was a great-

00:37:13.580 Warrior, right?

00:37:14.560 Well, that's two minus that.

00:37:15.480 She actually won a war.

00:37:17.420 No, no.

00:37:17.720 I'm going to say that the people have made us out.

00:37:19.980 Yeah.

00:37:20.060 The people have conceptualized her as a modern Joan of Arc figure.

00:37:25.000 But it's because, why?

00:37:27.820 We have a substitute.

00:37:29.180 We need to believe in something.

00:37:31.540 We have a human innate need to believe in something bigger than ourselves.

00:37:35.440 So if you don't believe in the real thing, God or country or family, you're going to believe in something else.

00:37:38.820 Well, then you just believe in outrage, it seems.

00:37:42.040 Yeah.

00:37:42.460 Everyone's really turned on to outrage.

00:37:44.700 That's true.

00:37:45.000 Like her going, how dare you? 1.00

00:37:47.840 That's right.

00:37:48.200 You know, all that. 1.00

00:37:48.840 Just the outrage of stupidity, I guess. 1.00

00:37:52.300 That's right. 1.00

00:37:52.500 But stupidity just outraged at itself. 1.00

00:37:56.860 And it doesn't want to get any better or learn anything. 1.00

00:38:00.280 No, it doesn't.

00:38:01.360 That's accurate.

00:38:02.880 I think China's paying her to- 0.88

00:38:05.540 I'm sure they are.

00:38:06.380 It's like woke smoke.

00:38:07.540 Woke smoke.

00:38:08.220 Blow woke smoke.

00:38:09.060 It's like, let's go get everyone mad at the US and then we'll just continue to, you know.

00:38:12.440 That's exactly what the-

00:38:13.120 What would you do?

00:38:13.860 There's a Chinese word for this, by the way.

00:38:15.400 What?

00:38:15.680 You familiar?

00:38:16.380 You know this word?

00:38:16.940 It's called a bite-soul.

00:38:18.260 Bite-soul?

00:38:19.000 Yeah.

00:38:19.600 I mean, since you brought this up, I can't pass the-

00:38:21.400 Yeah, let's go for it.

00:38:22.220 So, it's literally exactly what you said.

00:38:25.620 So, bite-soul is a Chinese word that refers to progressive white people.

00:38:32.340 Oh, wow. 1.00

00:38:32.900 In their language, it's like the equivalent of useful idiot. 1.00

00:38:36.140 Oh, wow. 1.00

00:38:36.540 That's the connotation it has. 1.00

00:38:38.440 So, it's like a derisive term referred to progressive white people as kind of useful idiots. 1.00

00:38:43.320 I'm taking it. 1.00

00:38:43.920 There's a Chinese word for this.

00:38:45.180 Unbelievable.

00:38:46.000 Bite-soul?

00:38:46.340 We're going to make this happen here.

00:38:47.780 Bite-soul. 0.88

00:38:48.140 Is that-

00:38:48.540 Z-A-I-Z-U-O. 1.00

00:38:51.460 I-zoul.

00:38:51.800 Do you think that's how they regard us?

00:38:53.780 They must.

00:38:54.580 Oh, yeah.

00:38:55.060 That's exactly the point. 1.00

00:38:57.220 I mean, the useful idiots, right? 1.00

00:38:58.460 They're going to shackle themselves over there with some climate cult. 1.00

00:39:01.600 Great.

00:39:02.180 We'll lap them over here. 0.86

00:39:03.520 Yeah.

00:39:03.660 Hey, those businesses want to talk about systemic racism in the U.S.?

00:39:06.420 Yes.

00:39:06.660 If I'm Xi Jinping, yes. 1.00

00:39:08.260 Stop slaughtering black Americans. 1.00

00:39:10.160 And I'm not making that up. 0.98

00:39:11.600 That's literally what Xi Jinping has said when he's pressed on the Uyghur human rights crisis.

00:39:14.480 The U.S. needs to-

00:39:15.760 BLM proves the U.S. is no better. 1.00

00:39:17.580 His top diplomat, Yang Jiechi, literally used those words at the Alaska summit that the U.S. needs to stop slaughtering black Americans. 0.96

00:39:23.740 Yeah. 0.81

00:39:23.960 And that-

00:39:24.940 What else did he say?

00:39:26.400 China wants to see the U.S. do better on human rights.

00:39:29.120 That was something he said.

00:39:30.140 Amazing.

00:39:30.860 Unbelievable.

00:39:31.480 With a straight face.

00:39:32.400 Wow.

00:39:32.600 So Baitzwo is absolutely a real concept, but they're using it to effectively laugh at us and marshal our own insecurities against ourselves.

00:39:41.800 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:39:43.500 And it's that mirroring stuff they do.

00:39:46.120 Yeah.

00:39:46.260 Like, what about how the Democrats, I mean, I know you're not, you know, I'm not for any party at all.

00:39:54.580 I'm for America.

00:39:55.520 Me too.

00:39:56.480 But- 0.93

00:39:56.940 The party, I mean, Republican Party is pretty corrupt.

00:40:00.120 Let's just be pretty honest about that. 1.00

00:40:01.800 They're both just crap. 0.99

00:40:02.760 I mean, Ronna McDaniel, do you know who that is? 1.00

00:40:04.820 Yeah.

00:40:05.060 Yeah.

00:40:05.220 I mean, your life may be better if you didn't, but she's this-

00:40:08.880 She's a Romney. 1.00

00:40:09.900 Yeah.

00:40:10.300 Yeah.

00:40:10.800 Yeah.

00:40:11.160 That's true.

00:40:12.200 Who Mitt Romney has said the only candidates he would- he would sooner vote for a Democrat

00:40:15.900 than to vote for either me or Trump, is what Mitt Romney said, her uncle.

00:40:19.420 Ronna has said that I'm the only candidate who won't get a cent of funding from the RNC.

00:40:25.080 Why?

00:40:25.420 Because I criticized her record of failure?

00:40:27.620 I mean, that almost proves my point.

00:40:28.860 It's not her money.

00:40:29.780 Right.

00:40:30.380 Right.

00:40:30.600 She acts like it is.

00:40:31.840 It's like the equivalent of a squatter in a rent-controlled apartment that think they own the place.

00:40:37.360 I mean, that's what you see in a lot of this dirty world of Republican partisan politics.

00:40:42.820 I care about the country.

00:40:44.240 Yeah.

00:40:44.580 None of them do, do they?

00:40:46.160 None of them care about the country at all, nor the people in it.

00:40:48.920 Very few of them do.

00:40:49.620 Some of them- some people are- I've met some good people who are, you know, even a couple

00:40:53.740 in Congress and some who will be state legislators.

00:40:56.700 I mean, some people, I think, are earnestly in this for good reasons, and that's been eye-opening

00:41:00.460 for me, but it's a small minority.

00:41:02.700 I think more and more.

00:41:02.980 It's a small minority.

00:41:03.740 I think more and more, because you said you're feeling it.

00:41:06.820 I'm feeling it.

00:41:07.560 Oh, in terms of the people on the ground, absolutely.

00:41:12.080 In terms of the people who go into politics, I'm encouraging more of us to do it.

00:41:17.060 Yeah, me too.

00:41:18.140 Yeah.

00:41:18.380 Yeah, yeah, and-

00:41:20.040 Regular people who can put two and two together.

00:41:23.020 Yeah.

00:41:23.520 And can't be bought.

00:41:24.600 You think you can be bought?

00:41:25.840 Nope.

00:41:26.640 My biggest donor is me.

00:41:28.320 That's cool.

00:41:29.240 By far.

00:41:30.080 We put tens of millions of dollars of our hard-earned money into this campaign.

00:41:33.920 I didn't inherit it.

00:41:34.860 It's hard-earned, self-made, but I- what is the point of having money if you're going

00:41:40.100 to do someone circus money?

00:41:40.820 To bring jobs back here, what are you going to do about that?

00:41:43.500 It's pretty simple.

00:41:45.260 Cut the regulatory state.

00:41:46.440 You know, 75% production.

00:41:48.380 I was talking about.

00:41:49.420 That's where most of those regulations are coming from.

00:41:52.480 Drill.

00:41:53.280 Frack.

00:41:54.320 Burn coal.

00:41:55.260 Embrace nuclear energy.

00:41:56.740 Stop paying people more money to stay at home instead of to go to work.

00:42:00.380 This isn't complicated.

00:42:02.080 They need a CEO in the White House who can do it.

00:42:04.280 Now, here's something that might piss you off.

00:42:06.940 What if Trump asked you to be his vice?

00:42:09.400 What would you do?

00:42:10.720 Well, actually, I'm not making this up, Roseanne.

00:42:12.960 This last week, I was in Iowa.

00:42:15.260 Multiple people.

00:42:16.020 And we get a lot of people coming to our events.

00:42:17.300 They're curious.

00:42:17.920 They're very curious.

00:42:19.240 But they'll even come in with Trump hats.

00:42:21.580 We had a couple that left this week.

00:42:23.180 And one actually even raised his hand and asked from the audience.

00:42:25.620 He said, I came in here thinking I wanted you to be Trump's VP, but I'm leaving here

00:42:29.600 thinking I want Trump to be your VP.

00:42:31.860 And they're coming at it from a place of love for him.

00:42:34.260 I think that would be easier for him, too.

00:42:36.480 It would be a good job for him because then he's in his 80s.

00:42:39.520 He doesn't have to put himself through that hell again.

00:42:42.260 It almost comes from a place of love for them, for him, but also of this country.

00:42:46.720 And so I'd work with him in some way.

00:42:49.120 You would?

00:42:50.060 I'd work with him in some way.

00:42:51.340 If he was my VP or my advisor, I would take him as a mentor and advisor.

00:42:55.300 Absolutely.

00:42:55.820 But not his VP if he got the number.

00:42:57.660 You can't say it.

00:42:58.440 I'm not a plan B guy.

00:42:59.340 I mean, I didn't get to where I am in life and you didn't get to probably where you

00:43:02.540 are in life, but at least for me, the way my brain works, it's almost like I have a

00:43:05.760 brain defect.

00:43:06.540 I can't see a plan B.

00:43:09.900 Yeah.

00:43:10.440 I'm a plan A guy.

00:43:11.500 You shouldn't.

00:43:11.680 And I think actually-

00:43:12.760 You're doing really well.

00:43:13.540 You shouldn't.

00:43:13.800 My gut instinct is I have no polling data or math.

00:43:19.540 I'd love seeing you on the-

00:43:21.940 No, huh?

00:43:22.500 I think I'm going to win Iowa.

00:43:23.620 Do you?

00:43:24.080 Yeah, I think so.

00:43:25.000 Which sounds crazy because right now I'm polling at fourth in most of the polls.

00:43:29.340 But I think Iowa is grassroots driven.

00:43:33.680 A lot of the people supporting us are first time ever caucus goers and they're not polled.

00:43:40.600 A lot of them are young.

00:43:42.440 So if they show up, I think they're going to show up.

00:43:45.020 I think if they show up, I think we're going to deliver a shock in Iowa.

00:43:48.940 But regardless, I'm in this for the country, right?

00:43:51.640 It's not about me.

00:43:52.300 It's not about-

00:43:52.980 It goes back to what you said.

00:43:54.680 Don't covet.

00:43:56.140 Yeah.

00:43:57.060 You know, I don't covet this office.

00:43:59.820 Right?

00:44:00.200 I mean, to tell you, some people might want to be president to ride on Air Force One.

00:44:04.180 I mean, just some real talk, you know, probably similar for you.

00:44:07.680 I mean, it's not that much of an upgrade from what I've been doing.

00:44:10.460 Right.

00:44:12.100 I'm not in this for the trappings of being the U.S. president, right?

00:44:15.200 It's actually a lot easier and more comfortable for me if we don't.

00:44:17.360 But I'm doing this because I don't think we have a lot of time left as a country.

00:44:22.900 If the interest payments on our national debt become the largest line item in our federal budget,

00:44:27.960 which is about the next five years, we don't have a country left.

00:44:30.960 Yeah.

00:44:31.100 Your daughter, my two sons.

00:44:34.000 Yeah.

00:44:34.240 They will not have the same country to grow up in.

00:44:36.160 And I don't believe somebody else is going to be able to do that for the next generation 0.97

00:44:40.940 and reach them and revive who we are in the way that I hope to for this country.

00:44:46.360 I truly believe that.

00:44:47.960 I know we've got to wrap up pretty soon.

00:44:49.260 Yeah, they're dragging me out of here.

00:44:50.480 But we got you for five more, I think, right?

00:44:54.660 What do you say to your biggest attractors?

00:44:56.420 Because we know the negatives on your – Anomaly is a good friend of ours.

00:45:00.580 I know you were on his show.

00:45:01.440 Yeah.

00:45:01.680 What's his actual name?

00:45:03.060 AJ.

00:45:03.820 AJ.

00:45:04.120 But there's talk that you've been funded by Soros and the WEF.

00:45:08.880 Can you just air that out right now?

00:45:10.560 On the last five minutes.

00:45:11.020 At first, I was like – I think skepticism is good.

00:45:14.640 But at this point, it's like people –

00:45:17.040 They don't trust – Republicans don't trust anybody.

00:45:18.800 Yeah, but just make your own judgments on the facts, please.

00:45:22.220 Well, they can't.

00:45:23.240 I mean, mainstream media will force feed you stuff, but Twitter will force feed you.

00:45:26.660 So –

00:45:27.460 Just do it here.

00:45:28.460 So, yeah.

00:45:29.300 You'll never be asked again.

00:45:30.360 I don't mind for me, but it's just – Jesus Christ, people.

00:45:33.160 We've got a country to save.

00:45:34.440 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:36.180 George Soros, bullshit. 1.00

00:45:38.540 Factioning is there. 1.00

00:45:39.020 So, I have zero time in my life with George Soros.

00:45:41.520 When I was 24, I got a scholarship from a generalized, generic scholarship that thousands of kids apply for.

00:45:48.560 Right.

00:45:49.200 Generic.

00:45:49.640 And I only found out about it on Friday.

00:45:51.040 I submitted on a Monday – on the Sunday night before a Monday deadline.

00:45:54.640 I ended up winning it.

00:45:55.420 50,000 bucks.

00:45:56.220 You take it.

00:45:56.840 Funded by some other guy, a dead guy who's dead now, called Paul Soros, who's a relative of George Soros, who – any student can win that scholarship.

00:46:05.660 If I tell your kids and my kids the same thing, somebody's going to give you that money and you want to pay for school, go for it, you take it, and you're on.

00:46:11.240 Understood.

00:46:11.560 Now, if there's strings attached, no.

00:46:12.820 Don't you bend – I told you.

00:46:14.100 I stepped down from my job as a CEO because nobody's going to put a muzzle on me and stop me from speaking.

00:46:18.420 World Economic Forum, I have zero affiliation.

00:46:21.820 I've been their biggest critic.

00:46:23.120 Now, they like to name young billionaires or whatever on their list of people who win an award.

00:46:26.880 They did that for me.

00:46:27.640 I refused their award. 1.00

00:46:29.320 I said, take my name off your damn list. 0.99

00:46:30.520 They refused to do it. 1.00

00:46:31.460 Oh, they gave you an award?

00:46:32.220 I don't know any of this stuff.

00:46:33.180 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:46:33.520 I sued them.

00:46:34.080 I sued them.

00:46:34.860 Did you win?

00:46:35.620 Yeah.

00:46:36.020 Oh, good.

00:46:36.400 Absolutely. 1.00

00:46:36.900 Soed their ass and we won. 1.00

00:46:38.260 And so that's kind of how I roll – excuse the crass language. 1.00

00:46:41.640 No, we love it.

00:46:42.220 It's the Roseanne Bar Podcast.

00:46:43.100 These people – these are not people who share our ideals.

00:46:48.080 But if – for people at home to just sort of make sure that you're wisened up.

00:46:57.940 Ron DeSantis had a fundraiser last summer, this past summer, with a George Soros investment partner for his presidential run.

00:47:04.140 Heck, Donald Trump took a $160 million loan from George Soros.

00:47:07.780 And I don't hold that against Trump.

00:47:09.040 He's a businessman.

00:47:09.680 He presumably had his reason to do it.

00:47:11.200 Does that mean he's controlled opposition?

00:47:12.380 No.

00:47:12.900 No.

00:47:13.120 But they used to say the same stuff about Trump with Hillary Clinton or otherwise.

00:47:16.520 Right.

00:47:17.100 Who is they that's doing this?

00:47:18.140 My biggest donor is me.

00:47:19.180 What's that?

00:47:19.680 Who is they that's doing this?

00:47:21.640 I don't know.

00:47:22.600 It seems like a lot of people online that will pop up and say something.

00:47:25.460 But maybe some of them are earnest.

00:47:26.440 It's the bot farmers. 0.61

00:47:27.720 It's the bot farmers are a big part.

00:47:29.060 Some are earnest people.

00:47:30.420 Yeah.

00:47:30.520 Because you have a government that has lied to us for a long time.

00:47:34.000 Yeah.

00:47:34.200 People should be skeptical of anybody who's new.

00:47:36.500 But at a certain point, people, you got the facts in front of you.

00:47:39.160 We don't have time to waste on this friendly fire BS.

00:47:43.200 Gotcha.

00:47:43.300 We got a country to save.

00:47:44.440 Put the best people up to do it.

00:47:46.880 I'm not doing this.

00:47:47.940 I mean, the things I'm saying about January 6th.

00:47:50.280 Okay.

00:47:50.720 Yeah, that's great.

00:47:51.220 Being potentially.

00:47:53.100 And it looks increasingly like it.

00:47:54.960 100%.

00:47:55.320 A clear case of, increasingly clear case of entrapment.

00:47:57.900 How are money being spent in Ukraine?

00:47:59.420 The climate change agenda is a hoax.

00:48:01.260 The things that I'm able to say.

00:48:01.940 What are we doing in the Ukraine?

00:48:04.300 Any idea?

00:48:05.400 We're allowing a Ukrainian kleptocrat to buy a bigger house. 1.00

00:48:08.520 Using our taxpayer money to do it so we can cut Social Security and Medicare here.

00:48:11.900 But there's a reason I'm the only person in this race who's able to say certain of those things.

00:48:16.320 Even Rana resigning.

00:48:17.280 I'm the only person in this race who can say certain things.

00:48:19.920 Not any other candidate.

00:48:21.680 Not a single one has been able to say certain of those things.

00:48:24.900 And the reason is I'm not bought and paid for as some pawn on a chessboard.

00:48:29.740 This country has allowed us to live the American dream.

00:48:32.120 I'm 38 years old.

00:48:34.220 Started multi-billion dollar companies.

00:48:36.380 I'm not doing that to be somebody's pawn or circus monkey.

00:48:39.800 And I think that's what it's going to take.

00:48:41.000 Yeah.

00:48:41.300 Somebody with fresh legs who can't be paid for.

00:48:44.160 That's what it's going to take to save this country.

00:48:46.020 And that's why I'm in this.

00:48:47.380 And so I could go with you guys all day.

00:48:50.160 I just wanted to take a second to tell you and remind you again that we are now affiliated with Gold Co.

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00:50:07.580 Thank you.

00:50:07.980 Hopefully this is the first of several times we're going to do this.

00:50:10.760 We would love to have you back.

00:50:11.340 I feel like it's just a warm up.

00:50:12.740 It's just a warm up.

00:50:13.440 Yeah.

00:50:14.060 I'd really like to talk real deep politics with you next time.

00:50:17.540 Let's go deep.

00:50:18.040 Yeah.

00:50:18.200 I feel like we're just getting to know each other this time.

00:50:19.780 Yeah.

00:50:20.100 But it was a pleasure to have you here.

00:50:22.140 That's good.

00:50:22.680 So nice of you to come.

00:50:23.380 I will say this.

00:50:24.120 There's one thing in closing.

00:50:25.440 Because I did feel like we were a little dour there.

00:50:27.440 And I don't want to end with dour.

00:50:28.460 No.

00:50:28.540 Yeah.

00:50:28.720 Let's end on a positive.

00:50:29.600 Well, truthful isn't dour always.

00:50:31.680 Truthful isn't dour.

00:50:32.380 Thank you, Roseanne.

00:50:33.840 Thank you.

00:50:34.220 Because I'm not going to be the guy who says it's morning in America because it's not.

00:50:40.400 But it can be.

00:50:43.060 And I think it's going to take somebody whose best days in life are still yet ahead.

00:50:48.360 And I don't take that for granted, by the way.

00:50:50.480 I hope they are.

00:50:52.680 But somebody whose best days in life are still ahead.

00:50:54.980 To see a country whose best days, I truly believe, can still be ahead.

00:51:02.600 That we're not at the end of some ancient Roman Empire.

00:51:05.020 At least we don't have to be.

00:51:05.880 We don't have to be.

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00:52:04.920 Absolutely.

00:52:05.620 So we'll tell the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts.

00:52:07.860 But that doesn't mean that it has to stay in the same place it is today.

00:52:12.580 So anyway, that's where I'm at.

00:52:13.820 Will you pardon Assange and J6 prisoners? 0.99

00:52:16.220 Yes.

00:52:17.200 Assange, Douglas Mackey, Owen Schroyer, any peaceful J6 protester, Donald Trump. 0.97

00:52:23.640 Great.

00:52:24.200 All of them get a pardon on day one.

00:52:25.940 Love that.

00:52:26.640 And it's a growing list that we have.

00:52:28.640 Yeah.

00:52:28.860 One standard of the rule of law in this country.

00:52:30.840 I'm not going to do it in the last day.

00:52:32.560 Many presidents wait until the last day.

00:52:33.880 Day one.

00:52:34.520 Day one.

00:52:35.000 January 20th, 2025.

00:52:36.440 Get rid of the DOJ, too.

00:52:38.080 FBI we're getting rid of.

00:52:39.440 And DOJ we're completely replacing and turning over.

00:52:41.520 Okay, good.

00:52:42.040 Love it.

00:52:42.440 Thank you.

00:52:42.880 Thank you.

00:52:43.280 Have a failed Bureau of Investigation, as I like to call it.

00:52:45.360 I love it.

00:52:46.140 Absolute pleasure.

00:52:46.920 Thank you.

00:52:47.540 Thank you.

00:52:48.800 What did you want to ask Vivek?

00:52:50.320 Because this is going to go at the tail end of the Vivek interview.

00:52:52.500 Because we usually do an hour.

00:52:54.020 He had to run, so we have to kill like 15 minutes.

00:52:56.780 Did you like him?

00:52:57.560 I love that he said he was going to pardon Assange and get rid of the FBI.

00:53:00.920 Like, I love that.

00:53:01.640 That's the stuff I wish Trump would say.

00:53:04.400 But he didn't seem to, he didn't like the WEF and Soros stuff being brought up.

00:53:09.420 And I feel bad for him because he did make a good point.

00:53:12.460 They've all taken funding from different places.

00:53:15.000 Why is he the only one that's being kind of held to account?

00:53:17.660 But I think the real problem with Vivek is he's so well-spoken.

00:53:21.240 And he's charismatic.

00:53:23.060 Like, when he was sitting here, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm voting for Vivek.

00:53:25.880 And then he left.

00:53:26.500 The cloud's gone.

00:53:27.180 I'm like, I don't know what I think about him.

00:53:28.280 He has that presence.

00:53:29.720 I don't trust people that do that.

00:53:31.060 Well, the way I thought about him is that I was going to say this to him, but you kept interrupting me.

00:53:37.500 But I wanted to say, I think he's been very useful to Trump because he does stick up for Trump.

00:53:44.300 And, you know, he goes, well, you guys are liars to the press.

00:53:47.740 You've lied about Trump. 0.68

00:53:49.500 It's true.

00:53:50.480 You know, it's cool that he has Trump's back like that.

00:53:53.060 Well, I think I do believe that he does want to tell the truth.

00:53:57.280 That's what I do like him.

00:53:58.400 Like I said, the things I don't like about him is that I like him, which is really not his fault.

00:54:02.560 I don't like that he's charismatic.

00:54:04.320 I don't like that he's intelligent because then I'm like, okay, I don't trust him. 1.00

00:54:07.100 He's a fucking reptile or he's Satan. 0.99

00:54:10.400 No, I think he's one of the – I think he's got a part to play and he's playing it well. 1.00

00:54:15.300 But I think he likes Trump because he's sincere.

00:54:18.140 Like when he was talking about Gen 6 and all that stuff, like entrapment was sincere.

00:54:23.500 Did you see that clip with the woman just trying to interrupt him for three straight minutes?

00:54:26.820 It was like talking to you.

00:54:27.920 She kept interrupting him for three straight minutes and he was so good.

00:54:31.140 He was like, you know, I know this is not a narrative you want to hear.

00:54:34.060 Like I know this is threatening to you.

00:54:35.680 Like he was being graceful. 0.99

00:54:37.020 But I really think – I think he's sincere in that shit. 0.99

00:54:39.960 I think – I don't think it's political. 0.99

00:54:42.940 I think he actually – the reason he's nice to Trump is because he's not deranged. 0.99

00:54:50.020 Like everyone likes Trump that's not out of their fucking mind. 0.98

00:54:52.740 We all like Trump. 0.99

00:54:54.460 Well, he – I – you know.

00:54:56.300 You think Trump's – you think – because I know you have conspiratorial thinking.

00:55:00.120 No, Trump's unbeatable.

00:55:01.800 So you think – do you think Trump's behind Vivek, like Vivek?

00:55:04.960 Mm-hmm.

00:55:05.280 So you think Vivek is part of the Trump campaign?

00:55:08.440 Mm-hmm.

00:55:08.580 This is fascinating.

00:55:09.360 Can we –

00:55:09.800 Yes, like I think so is DeSantis.

00:55:13.960 How does Trump use Vivek and DeSantis?

00:55:16.800 Well, DeSantis plays the heel for Trump.

00:55:19.800 Right.

00:55:20.720 And then Vivek is the Trump negotiator.

00:55:28.040 But do you think Trump's funding their campaigns or they're part of it or like how deep does this –

00:55:32.020 When they got mutual –

00:55:34.080 Is this – are you being serious?

00:55:35.440 Yeah.

00:55:36.240 The mutual funding there.

00:55:37.960 Because Vivek's thing is to show people like you don't really want libertarians.

00:55:43.960 Mm-hmm.

00:55:45.000 And you don't really want far-right DeSantos.

00:55:48.580 Right.

00:55:48.980 You want Trump.

00:55:51.220 That's what's being shown.

00:55:52.940 All right.

00:55:53.460 You want the middle Trump.

00:55:54.860 He's the middle.

00:55:55.840 Well, he's going to Iowa.

00:55:58.600 Mm-hmm.

00:55:59.360 And he just told us he's confident.

00:56:01.340 He thinks he's actually going to win Iowa.

00:56:02.860 And he's like pulling at 4%.

00:56:04.260 He could because they got a lot of libtards over there in Iowa. 1.00

00:56:08.040 Well, he thinks it's the young Republicans that are going to come out and vote for him.

00:56:11.540 Hold on, baby.

00:56:12.960 You're going to be there.

00:56:13.560 No, it's the libtards that are sick of the dams that will come out for him. 1.00

00:56:17.140 But you're going to be in Iowa campaigning for Trump.

00:56:19.200 You're going to talk to the caucus members.

00:56:20.540 So what are you going to do if Vivek –

00:56:21.780 So it's weird that I'll be campaigning against Vivek.

00:56:26.180 Mm-hmm.

00:56:27.160 Vivek, like cake.

00:56:28.500 Vivek, like cake.

00:56:29.620 Yeah.

00:56:30.980 I do like cake.

00:56:32.560 I know.

00:56:33.460 You're probably going to vote for him just because his name sounds like cake.

00:56:36.260 I probably do.

00:56:37.500 But what if he does –

00:56:38.680 I don't think he can win Iowa, but what if he has a stronger than predicted polling?

00:56:43.300 That could be –

00:56:44.380 What if Vivek could actually win the election?

00:56:47.940 He should reconsider being the vice, and Trump should have him be the vice.

00:56:54.340 He should be the vice under Trump in case, God forbid, then he would have paid his dues.

00:57:02.140 But he hadn't paid any dues to come up against Trump.

00:57:04.960 I'm sorry.

00:57:05.800 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:06.360 He's an upstart, and he better not go too far with that because people are sick of that shit. 1.00

00:57:13.600 But Obama did the same thing when he ran. 1.00

00:57:15.560 Remember, he was the upstart.

00:57:16.620 It was Hillary's nomination. 1.00

00:57:18.200 No one saw him coming, and he whipped her ass. 1.00

00:57:21.400 He didn't. 1.00

00:57:21.980 They stole that one too.

00:57:23.220 Oh, I don't think so.

00:57:24.140 They stole that one away from Hillary. 1.00

00:57:25.820 I was so pissed at the time because I wanted Hillary at that time. 0.91

00:57:29.520 Yeah.

00:57:30.480 And they did steal it from her and give it to him, and I was one of them that was going to fight to the death for Hillary against him 0.96

00:57:37.520 because I knew they had gave it to a young man over a woman who deserved it.

00:57:42.680 But he was a much better politician.

00:57:44.360 He had a much better grassroots campaign.

00:57:45.940 He was also African-American, or at least half African.

00:57:48.920 I don't even know what his thing is.

00:57:49.920 She's a white woman, Clinton. 0.99

00:57:52.320 Her husband was in the White House.

00:57:53.660 He was the new, fresh outsider. 1.00

00:57:55.640 The same shit Trump ran on. 1.00

00:57:56.840 It was what was happening in corporatocracy all the time. 1.00

00:58:00.440 Women were training young males that would get their jobs, and it was that. 1.00

00:58:06.360 It was sex is bullshit. 1.00

00:58:08.380 Hillary deserved it at that time. 1.00

00:58:10.580 Not him.

00:58:11.240 He had paid no dues.

00:58:13.200 I think, I'll disagree with you.

00:58:15.260 I think Obama's, it's probably the only election that was legitimate was that election.

00:58:20.880 Yeah.

00:58:21.140 Do you remember?

00:58:22.620 Not in the primary when they stole it.

00:58:24.460 No, because I actually saw Obama speak at the DNC for, I think it was for John Kerry, and he was the star of that.

00:58:31.200 I was talking about him the next day.

00:58:32.760 I said, that guy's going to be president, and everyone thought I was crazy.

00:58:35.280 He was that popular.

00:58:37.360 He really was.

00:58:38.380 I have to say that I liked him in spite of myself, or himself, or however you say it, until I found out all his money was coming from nukes. 0.50

00:58:46.160 Well, and he ended up being a-

00:58:47.160 Oh, my God, he's really oily to do that.

00:58:50.240 That's what I'm saying. 1.00

00:58:50.800 No, he ended up being a horrible, horrible president, a horrible, horrible person. 1.00

00:58:53.800 That's what I'm saying. 0.90

00:58:55.000 Vivek, in fact, Vivek got in trouble.

00:58:57.060 I wanted to ask him.

00:58:57.700 It wasn't enough time, but he was plagiarizing a couple times Obama's speech.

00:59:02.920 AJ called him out on it, almost word for word.

00:59:05.320 Like, I'm the guy with the brown guy with the funny name.

00:59:07.080 What am I doing here?

00:59:08.160 That's how Obama started when he started.

00:59:10.120 Yeah.

00:59:10.660 And he's just like Obama.

00:59:12.180 He's charismatic.

00:59:13.060 He has the same movements.

00:59:14.880 He's studied in his movements, but I was looking at the head, you know, because I go by the head shapes.

00:59:19.940 What did you get?

00:59:20.540 Not the skin color or the other racial characteristics.

00:59:22.900 So you read Vivek's head?

00:59:24.740 Yeah.

00:59:25.380 And?

00:59:26.400 Well, he's got one of those heads that comes from, he's got the kind of head that it's very full at the top and not well-rounded in the middle.

00:59:40.000 And what does that mean?

00:59:41.180 He needs more time to adjust himself.

00:59:43.720 So he's not ready to be president.

00:59:46.460 Okay.

00:59:46.900 Would you support a 2028 Vivek, knowing what you know now?

00:59:50.440 I have to hear him talk because I don't like what he said about the U.S. and Israel either. 0.88

00:59:56.060 Oh, I think he said the same thing you and I said, that Israel should stop taking help from America and just go fucking wipe out Hamas. 0.90

01:00:03.500 That isn't what he said. 0.95

01:00:04.640 Yeah, it was.

01:00:05.300 He said America shouldn't give aid.

01:00:07.280 Yeah, well, no, he's saying Israel should literally be able to destroy the Gaza and kill all of Hamas and do what they have to do. 0.67

01:00:13.960 Biden's telling them to stop because they're taking our aid.

01:00:16.760 So he was saying if they were outside of aid, they could go do what they have to do.

01:00:20.280 Well, that I agree with.

01:00:22.600 That's what he actually said.

01:00:23.160 But I don't like America trying to tell another country what they can do to defend themselves.

01:00:27.520 That's what he was saying.

01:00:28.300 How arrogant is that?

01:00:29.220 Oh, is that what he was saying?

01:00:30.340 Yeah, but he was also, that's what he's like, Israel probably doesn't like that.

01:00:32.940 And I said, well, they like the funding.

01:00:34.260 And then you got mad.

01:00:35.940 But we do pay for Israel's military, a large portion of it, right?

01:00:42.000 That's not correct.

01:00:43.580 We give them aid and then force them to buy our weapons. 0.62

01:00:47.920 So if Israel. 0.77

01:00:49.260 It's a roundabout deal like everything the Democrats do.

01:00:52.640 Yeah.

01:00:52.980 It's a, you know, they used to call that the reach around.

01:00:57.540 Yeah.

01:00:57.680 Two guys are jacking each other off, you know.

01:01:00.480 You hear that, Livia?

01:01:04.260 Well, I think, I think if Israel's able to support its own military, then they should 0.99

01:01:10.880 cut ties with America and then go fucking turn the Middle East to glass. 0.98

01:01:14.680 I just don't think America should be telling other nations how they can defend themselves. 0.99

01:01:20.260 That's what he was saying.

01:01:21.400 Yeah.

01:01:21.780 So I like that.

01:01:22.420 He's worried about that.

01:01:23.220 All right.

01:01:23.720 Well, you did good.

01:01:26.160 So if you want to wrap up.

01:01:28.140 Trump 2020, 40, 40.

01:01:30.720 Trump 2020, 40, 40?

01:01:32.420 You must be tired.

01:01:35.440 Trump 2024, you're trying to say?

01:01:38.700 Look at this interview when you cut to mom.

01:01:40.540 Look at her. 1.00

01:01:41.360 She's like, oh, the sucker. 1.00

01:01:44.100 All right. 1.00

01:01:44.400 Well, we got to wrap this up.

01:01:45.620 Where are we at?

01:01:46.740 You have no energy left.

01:01:48.300 Well, Vivek, good luck to you in Iowa and we'll see you after.

01:01:53.460 Do you want to say anything else?

01:01:54.420 Wrap up. 1.00

01:01:56.040 I'm going to be kicking your ass in Iowa, Vivek. 1.00

01:01:58.880 Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin. 1.00

01:02:12.820 With this synthetic world, we're living in.

01:02:19.400 With this, yeah.

01:02:23.900 Thank you.

01:02:32.460 I love you.

The Roseanne Barr Podcast - January 04, 2024

＂Im not sure how much time America has left＂ with Vivek Ramaswamy ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #029

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