"Im not sure how much time America has left" with Vivek Ramaswamy | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #029
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Vivek Ramaswamy joins us on the show to talk about his life growing up in India and how he became a TV host. He also talks about how he got his name and how it came about, and what it means to him, and why he thinks it's a good name for a guy who was born in a rural part of India and grew up in an urban part of the U.S. We also talk about how his family came to this country 40 years ago with no money, but in search of a better life, and how they ended up in Cincinnati, Ohio. And how he ended up with the name Vivek like a cake, which is a pretty cool story about a kid who grew up with a name like that, and a name that means like cake in Malayalam, which means cake like cake. and we talk about what it s like to be a kid in India, and where he grew up and how his name came about. and why it s a beautiful name. And he talks about his favorite food, and his favorite kind of cake, and the name he likes to call it cake and the reason why he s named it like that. Enjoy this episode, and we'll see you next week with Jimmy Corsetti! on the Roseanne Barb Podcast. Light Up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile - get 50 gigs to use in Canada, the US, the USA, and Mexico for $35 a month for 18 months for just $35, plus a one-time gift of 5 gigs of Rome Beyond Data, Beyond Data. - conditions apply. Details at freedomobile.ca. to use the promo code ROSANNE to get 5 gigs for Black Friday. on Black Friday, Black Friday and Beyond Data? to save $35 on your next Black Friday deal! and get 5Gigs of Rome, $35/month for 18-day for the entire year for the deal? and a freebie of 5Gig of Rome beyond data? at Freedomobile at Beyond Data to use Black Friday? to make the best Black Friday Black Friday! to help you save $5,000 on your best day of the week and get five gigs for the best deal of the entire Black Friday service? Loved this episode with me, I hope you ll love it! - Jake, Jake, the host of Roseanne!
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Hey everyone, it's Jake. I just wanted to say you're going to love this episode with Vivek Ramaswamy.
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I just wanted to tell you two things real quick before it starts.
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Number one is Vivek was very busy. We filmed this at Turning Point, so we only got him for 45 minutes.
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So the last 15 minutes of this episode is me and my mom talking about the podcast and the episode with Vivek.
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It's great. You'll love it. I just want to tell you that the camera that was on me, unfortunately, that media drive crashed and I lost it.
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I don't think anyone cares about not seeing my face. You're all here for my mom.
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But I work really hard to edit the show and make it enjoyable. It is going to be one straight shot of my mom with a sucker.
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You can see how bored she is when I talk. She's falling asleep half the time.
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Not the usual editing style I want to do, but unfortunately, we only had the one camera.
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I'm excited today on the Roseanne Barb podcast to have Vivek Ramaswamy.
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Now, what in the hell kind of name is Ramaswamy?
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My parents came to this country 40 years ago with no money, but in search of opportunity.
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Now, where did your parents come from in India?
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They came from a state called Kerala in southern India.
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I think my dad was from a super rural part of southern India.
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And so, he used to take us back during summers, because back then, my dad still had his parents
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So, in the summers, when we were growing up, they would go back and it's like you couldn't...
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I couldn't describe to you or to the people I would go to school with what that would
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Because there's the urban parts of India, that's one thing.
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But the rural parts are like, you would get sick every time you go.
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You had to boil the water twice every time and then cool it before you drink it.
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You want to take a shower, you use the stove to heat it up and then you mix that up with
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But it was a cool experience in that we grew up in solidly middle class circumstances in
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My mom worked in nursing homes as a psychiatrist.
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And I think part of what my dad wanted us to see was to be grateful, I guess, not take
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And it definitely had that effect, I would say, for our time growing up.
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One of the first I've met this week to have that strong of a positive reaction to it.
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I just gave him an interview with a different guy who says, well, how can you be president?
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Well, I forgot his name, but he was asking it in a helpful way, because he says that's
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the question that he gets from a lot of people in his following, too.
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I left my faith, I would say, through my teenage years and early 20s, like many people do.
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But I came back to it as an adult with conviction.
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And I actually would say it's probably my faith that leads me to this journey of running
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the president, because the core of my faith is there's one true God.
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And so, if that's what you believe, and this is sort of my purpose to use the God-given
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skills that I've been given to do good in this country, the other core teaching of my
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faith is we're still equal, even though God works through us in different ways.
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And so, in many ways, it's my faith that leads me to do what I'm doing in my life.
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My wife, Apoorva, she's a successful throat surgeon.
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She's in Phoenix today, but she's at 7 a.m. tomorrow in Ohio, going to be treating patients,
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I went to St. Xavier in Cincinnati, that's where I grew up.
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And I will say that even though the faiths are different, we share the same value set
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I read the Ten Commandments for the first time in ninth grade.
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I say most Christians haven't even read that yet.
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I think it's worth just sometimes even remembering what, saying what they are.
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I mean, it's the Old Testament, so Jews, that includes, you know, same Ten Commandments.
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Because there isn't a big conversion component in Judaism or in Hinduism.
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So are you, like, Reform or Conservative Orthodox or not really a particular label?
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You keep Shabbat, like, to the extent you won't even turn on lights?
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It's more about meditation and, you know, renewal of yourselves.
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That's the beauty of the Sabbath, actually, is...
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But we were both part of the Jewish society at Yale called Shabtai.
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But then every Friday night from, you know, sundown to...
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We would go till midnight, 1 a.m., phones off, the men serve, you know.
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And then he would have the continued full Saturday to sundown off with...
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You know, there are so many different kinds of Jews.
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There's so many different kinds of Hindus, too.
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I would say the Hindus in America compared to Jews in America...
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The Jews in America do a really good job of preserving the ancient traditions.
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That kind of community doesn't exist in the same way because...
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Like, one of the things I think you have Christian pastors who will take the scripture and make
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We've been to countless churches, including even this year, and even at St. X High School
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Maybe not quite to the level of evangelical Christians.
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And then Hindus are like the opposite end of the spectrum, where if you go to like a
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Hindu temple, they wouldn't dare have conversations about the kinds of things we might be talking
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about where we are right now in Phoenix at Amfest or otherwise.
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And much of it's done in Sanskrit, which is, you know, obviously an ancient language that
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So it's sort of like Catholics before, you know, Vatican I or whatever the first convention
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But I think that one of the things I appreciate about evangelical Christians in certain segments
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of certainly the Jewish American community is the ability to keep those traditions alive
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and make it relevant, to make faith relevant to people in the present.
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And that's something I think the Hindu American community could hopefully, you know, do a better
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But it's a relatively recent immigration wave of Hindus to the U.S. over the last 50 years
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So I think there's a lot of time for that in the future.
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So what happens to Hindus, are you saying that they assimilate quicker and join, you know,
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I think they stay Hindu, but it becomes, it takes on a more ritualistic quality without
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necessarily having the kind of pastor figures who will make it applicable to the challenges
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Modern life is, I mean, even if you just open up to a given page of the Old Testament
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or the New Testament and just try to read it, it's not exactly like eating candy, right?
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And some of that work requires someone who is learned in that, but who lives in the present
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and helps build those bridges to make that scripture come alive.
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And that doesn't exist in the Hindu American community in the U.S.
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I think it probably does in India, but in the version of it that exists in the U.S., so
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And actually one of the things that took away from our time at Shabtai, the Jewish society
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that Apoorva and I became part of at Yale was bringing an admiration for the people who
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take an effort to read the ancient scriptures, but to bring that into the present.
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Because they're always applicable, or they should be.
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But the way they're written, sometimes you may need a rabbi or a priest or a pastor to
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help you, you know, just—I mean, maybe some people.
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I'm one of the people, if I opened up and read that myself, whether it's a Hindu scripture
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or whether even it's the Old or New Testament at times, if you're just reading it raw, you
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got to really put in the effort versus if you have somebody who has—and sometimes the
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historical context, you know, always have it when you're reading it.
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It's always so interesting to me that these very old written things can be so relevant.
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Where do you live, if you don't mind me asking?
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From my time there, one of the things I remember is the view of the stars in the sky at night.
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It's like no place I've been like Hawaii at least are the places I've been.
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But I was going to say, I mean, just to finish the religious discussion of the analogy, you know, the rabbi used to use is, many of the stars you're seeing, maybe even most of them, don't exist.
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And that's, I think, the way we think about those stories of scripture is you see the light in the present, even though the person whose light shines or who that star was named for is long gone.
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And that's the way I think about the job of people to pass on tradition in this country.
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Not just religious tradition, but you could say the same of our Declaration of Independence or our Constitution as well.
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And I don't think we're doing a good enough job of that today either.
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So I want to ask you this one big old question.
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No, but you don't really want to be president of the United States, do you?
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From a personal want perspective, there are parts of it that seem worse than a sharp poke in the eye.
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And do I believe we can lead a national revival?
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That I believe that it is my moral duty to realize that purpose?
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You're not stabbing him in the back or anything.
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Well, see, the funny thing is everybody else, like these people have been licking his boot for money and endorsement for years.
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I've just, I've been building businesses, right?
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I'm, this world of politics is new terrain to me.
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But I respect him for what he did for this country.
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Because I know, like me, he didn't have to do what he's doing either.
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I'm the youngest person ever to run for U.S. president as a Republican.
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I think the next generation, my generation and people younger than me, they are lost.
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I mean, just directionless for purpose and meaning.
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And I think I'm going to be able to provide them that sense of direction and purpose and meaning and identity even better than Donald Trump or anybody else in this race.
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Because it takes somebody with fresh legs from the next generation to reach the next generation.
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But there's a reason why Thomas Jefferson was only 33 when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.
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These revolutions, these revivals, they tend to be led by the next generation.
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And so I respect the hell out of Trump for what he did for this country.
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But the America First agenda doesn't belong to him.
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And I believe whether it's going to be 2024 or 2028, the America First agenda outlives Donald Trump.
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I don't think we're working with that much time, though.
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I think it needs – I think right now, if my kids – I'm a father of two sons.
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If my older son is in high school before we get this right, I don't think we have a country left.
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I really don't think we're working with that kind of time.
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I mean, like you, I'm sure – as I'm sure I expect is true of you, we live a blessed life.
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I mean, my parents would never imagine the life that we live when they came to this country 40 years ago.
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Or even when we were growing up, as my dad was facing layoffs at GE, to imagine that we're living the blessed life that we have right now.
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I found in multibillion-dollar companies, my wife is a throat surgeon caring for cancer survivors.
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But I don't think our kids are going to have access to that unless we step up and actually save it.
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Explain how you went from creating businesses to getting into politics.
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I mean, my wake-up call was probably – even before I went into politics, but probably my eye-opening moment was in 2020.
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So I was about six years, close to seven years, to being the CEO of this biotech company that I founded.
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I oversaw the development of a number of medicines.
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One of them is a life-saving therapy in kids, which is the one I'm most proud of.
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Before that, it was 100-hour work weeks for six years.
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And I think there's something about being a dad that, for me, just did change my perspective.
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And having two is a blessing that I didn't imagine when her second was born.
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And I don't know if you guys remember that, but he was actually born in New York City when my wife was finishing her training as an airway surgeon.
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This was before people knew what the hell this was.
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And she's like, all right, I believe that I've been given gifts.
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And they had a big doctor shortage in New York for the very first wave.
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I mean, say what you will about the COVID policy craziness.
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That first wave, it was like, oh, there's something going on here in New York City.
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And so she actually made a pretty brave decision.
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She said three weeks in, nobody knows anything about the virus.
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She's going in to do open airway surgery for serious patients who had COVID.
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And so she had to separate for those weeks because especially for a newborn three weeks old, nobody knows what this is.
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So I took care of him for about a month and a half while she was taking care of patients doing airway surgery on the front lines.
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He ended up in the ICU for the better part of a couple weeks.
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And so that ended up being a pretty tumultuous period.
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But I had a chance to – actually, I was traveling all over the country and the world and to take that time to be grounded with him.
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So you were the CEO of a biotech company and raising a newborn?
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And so I actually first actually took like a couple months, not like a full hiatus, but elevated other people at the company.
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So anyway, you fast forward a couple months and then in May of that year, George Floyd dies and there are these BLM, Black Lives Matter protests across this country.
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But the fun – the weirdest thing that happens, suddenly there's a demand, just like every other tech and biotech company CEO is doing, that I make a statement on behalf of Black Lives Matter.
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I don't – A, I don't agree with their values.
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And so, lo and behold, that generates a series of controversies.
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And following January, by the next January, multiple advisors to my company's advisory board had resigned.
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Am I going to bend the knee to this new stakeholder capitalism cult?
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And I decided – so that was – anyway, you brought me what led me to this journey from being a businessman.
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Man, that's the first time I said, you know what, I'm going to speak my mind freely as a citizen.
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I stepped down from my job as a biotech company CEO to speak my mind freely.
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At the time I wrote it, the publisher's main concern is nobody would know what the word woke was.
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And it was – well, I think my book actually helped elevate that and I'm proud of that.
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I still didn't think I was going to run for president.
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Do you think that woke stuff is just Stalinism?
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So I think the woke stuff actually – so for a while – and I still am every bit as opposed to it as I was.
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But it can prove to be a bit of a distraction at times.
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Because what happens is you get – I take the Wall Street version of this.
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So I got my first job in the fall of 2007 at a hedge fund right before the 08 financial crisis.
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Well, what happened was there was this woke left and then there was the Occupy Wall Street left.
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The Occupy Wall Street left said we want to take money from those wealthy bankers and give it to poor people to help poor people.
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So what they said is, hey, we'll do the thing the woke left wants us to do, diversity and inclusion.
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Muse about the racially disparate impact of climate change after you fly in a private jet to Davos.
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That's pretty good work if you can get it, but it proves to be a distraction.
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It's what I call woke smoke to deflect accountability for the bailouts.
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I mean, I don't know about you, but I'm against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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I think they were completely and totally pointless for this country.
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It's good for people who have private vested interests.
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How about vested interest socializing the risk and privatizing the profits?
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So my point is, in the military, the same thing.
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So the left used to hit the right for the bailouts, because Bush did the bailouts.
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But then they said, don't worry, we're going to say the stuff you, the left, want us to
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But then if you're General Mark Milley, you know who that is?
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So if you're General Mark Milley, you'd rather say, hey, hey, don't hit me for that.
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I'll just talk about systemic racism and white rage.
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The old version of breakup big tech used to come from the left.
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But then they say, hey, no, no, don't worry about it, guys.
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We'll censor hate speech and misinformation as you define it.
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So it's not – so the wokeism is Stalinism, et cetera.
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But its real relevance to us in America today is it's a deflection tool where the permanent
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bureaucracy, the permanent state, the actual shadow government, both within and outside the
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Anyway, it's a way for them to deflect criticism from the left in what you call an arranged
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Do you trust anything that's being parroted out of the mouth of so-called experts on the
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When I hear trust the experts, I know they're lying.
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After the last three years, I just don't trust anybody.
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You don't have to go on WebMD and see if you have cancer.
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I got to get one of those for everybody for Christmas.
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I don't know what I'm doing, so write me down and get me that mail.
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And liberal, our liberal, your liberal children...
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Now they're huge fans after Joe Rogan came out with it.
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And the net result of that is the birth of this woke industrial complex, right?
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This hybrid monster of state power and corporate power that together accomplish...
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It's not just big government, what it was in 1980.
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And I think we need leaders who understand that.
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Somebody who you can't just recite slogans you memorized in 1980.
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It's like Dorothy might have said to Toto in The Wizard of Oz, right?
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And so anyway, that comes back to why I think and I expect to be the next president of the United States.
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Well, probably not enough to know the answer to whatever you're going to ask me.
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I had the experience of fighting my ass off to get on three state ballots.
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Imagine what you would have done with modern social media.
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You might have actually just won the damn thing.
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But I saw Trump take a lot of my ideas, which are just populist ideas, that I think all smart
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You're talking about super drain the super swamp.
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I liked him even when he first started running.
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That's kind of what I think about as my philosophy.
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And so the administrative agencies are the hybrid that...
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That hybrid of state and corporate power, a lot of that's mediated through the administrative
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Then as commander in chief, use our own military.
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Instead of using our own military to protect somebody else's border halfway around the world
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or send supplies to some Ukrainian kleptocrat can buy a bigger house.
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Instead of that, how about we use our own military to protect our own border?
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And I can do that on day one as commander in chief.
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That's so hard though for Israel though, right?
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Not to put you on the spot, but I agree with you about Ukraine, but Israel, just personally
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Well, actually, I can tell you about my view on this.
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I mean, I'd rather speak my mind and lose an election than to win by playing snakes and
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I think I have a more deeply pro-American view and pro-Israel view than anybody else
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So David Ben-Gurion is about five feet tall, but he's a mighty man.
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If the hundreds of millions of Abraham's sons by way of Ishmael get 22 countries or whatever,
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And we don't need to ask the West, including America, for permission or for forgiveness.
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We're going to defend ourselves and need the ability to do it.
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So my view is look at what's happening now, right?
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You got Biden maybe dangling a small check over here, but then believing that that has
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a say in terms of what Israel does or doesn't do to defend itself.
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That's not only better for the United States, it's also better for Israel.
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The IDF can go in and out and get Hamas taken out or whatever they need to do.
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I mean, certainly the leadership thereof or whatever they need to do.
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But if we muddy the waters and we're involved, A, we're then accountable for what they do.
00:31:21.000
Which creates risk for the United States, but also which requires the United States to then
00:31:23.780
ask questions to second guess what Israel does.
00:31:26.720
So I don't think Israel wants an armchair quarterback.
00:31:32.500
But I think that what's better for them is if they had to choose between the two.
00:31:57.420
Don't you think Obama's the president, not Biden?
00:32:00.180
I'll tell you, it's a machine that's the president.
00:32:06.280
I mean, people think his cognitive defects and they're using it against him.
00:32:12.220
I mean, that's the truth because he makes him a puppet.
00:32:17.960
And you know what's funny right now is now his popularity is tanking a little bit.
00:32:22.440
Now you're hearing about the Biden documents case and the Hunter Biden stuff.
00:32:28.740
It's because they're going to move him out of the way and pull out their next little puppet
00:32:38.780
I've been saying it's going to be March for a long time because that's when Trump's trials
00:32:50.700
Usually the person who wants it most badly in that kind of scenario is the one that gets
00:32:55.520
They're going to have a tough time selling him what with the way California looks and
00:33:00.780
Oh, but the one assumption you're making there is that truth matters.
00:33:07.620
And distilled by the media, certainly the mainstream media, people outside of California are going
00:33:14.420
to think that this was the promised land, the land of milk and honey is what they're going
00:33:25.480
I mean, the, the, uh, you know, I'd need, uh, I need some hand sanitizer if we're, if
00:33:30.460
we're going to be in, in, in touching distance of Gavin Newsom on a debate stage.
00:33:34.920
But I'll tell you that, uh, very, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of oil that probably rubs
00:33:39.620
But, you know, that, that's just the reality is he's just another puppet.
00:33:47.360
Who do you think's at the top of the puppet show?
00:33:51.560
See, I used to think, is it Susan Rice or is it Barack Obama or the Clintons?
00:34:00.840
It is, it is, it is a horizontal faceless managerial class.
00:34:09.800
And so that's why we need to go in there with a jackhammer and break the machine.
00:34:13.220
I can buy that because that's exactly what it seems.
00:34:19.900
It's a machine here or is it a, because it's, this is a global.
00:34:24.420
See, the three letter agencies here, I'm going to shut them down.
00:34:27.840
You know, FBI, ATF, CDC, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Department of Education.
00:34:36.040
What the hell are they doing in the Department of Ag?
00:34:39.780
So, I mean, we've got a whole list we're going to shut down, but it's transnational.
00:34:52.420
So, the managerial class, what we call a swamp, it's transnational.
00:35:00.040
So, it's like, we just need to defund all of this.
00:35:09.940
We pay for the global climate cult that shackles the United States.
00:35:13.580
That bites the hand that feeds it, the United States, while leaving China untouched.
00:35:23.460
China burned more coal last year than they ever have.
00:35:28.540
The very people who are opposed to fossil fuels in the United States are also the ones who are opposed to nuclear energy.
00:35:36.760
Because nuclear energy might be too good at solving the problem, the alleged problem, but it has nothing to do with the climate.
00:35:44.000
It has to do with letting China catch up to the U.S., what they call global equity.
00:35:48.240
And guess which country has the most advanced nuclear reactor?
00:35:51.960
So, I could go on all day on this, but here's the reality.
00:35:56.360
That's why I didn't like Obama and why I ran against him, because his biggest donors were nuclear tech.
00:36:08.980
And I was like, oh my God, he's a nuke car salesman.
00:36:17.780
But he was also a guy who pushed this climate agenda that Al Gore kind of set into motion.
00:36:22.620
I'll say one thing here is, part of this is, it goes back to the first discussion we were having.
00:36:29.060
It's unrelated, we think, but the discussion about faith and tradition.
00:36:36.680
And when you're lost for purpose and meaning, you're going to bend the knee to something.
00:36:53.360
And then if you believe that you're doing this with a religious instinct, then they can convince you to do anything.
00:36:58.340
I mean, Greta Thunberg is like a modern Joan of Arc, right?
00:37:01.200
I mean, it's child abuse of a mentally deranged teenager.
00:37:04.260
I have to be careful what I say about her because it's mean.
00:37:07.240
Well, I will just say that it's a modern Joan of Arc type of figure.
00:37:17.720
I'm going to say that the people have made us out.
00:37:20.060
The people have conceptualized her as a modern Joan of Arc figure.
00:37:31.540
We have a human innate need to believe in something bigger than ourselves.
00:37:35.440
So if you don't believe in the real thing, God or country or family, you're going to believe in something else.
00:37:38.820
Well, then you just believe in outrage, it seems.
00:37:56.860
And it doesn't want to get any better or learn anything.
00:38:09.060
It's like, let's go get everyone mad at the US and then we'll just continue to, you know.
00:38:19.600
I mean, since you brought this up, I can't pass the-
00:38:25.620
So, bite-soul is a Chinese word that refers to progressive white people.
00:38:32.900
In their language, it's like the equivalent of useful idiot.
00:38:38.440
So, it's like a derisive term referred to progressive white people as kind of useful idiots.
00:38:58.460
They're going to shackle themselves over there with some climate cult.
00:39:03.660
Hey, those businesses want to talk about systemic racism in the U.S.?
00:39:11.600
That's literally what Xi Jinping has said when he's pressed on the Uyghur human rights crisis.
00:39:17.580
His top diplomat, Yang Jiechi, literally used those words at the Alaska summit that the U.S. needs to stop slaughtering black Americans.
00:39:26.400
China wants to see the U.S. do better on human rights.
00:39:32.600
So Baitzwo is absolutely a real concept, but they're using it to effectively laugh at us and marshal our own insecurities against ourselves.
00:39:46.260
Like, what about how the Democrats, I mean, I know you're not, you know, I'm not for any party at all.
00:39:56.940
The party, I mean, Republican Party is pretty corrupt.
00:40:02.760
I mean, Ronna McDaniel, do you know who that is?
00:40:05.220
I mean, your life may be better if you didn't, but she's this-
00:40:12.200
Who Mitt Romney has said the only candidates he would- he would sooner vote for a Democrat
00:40:15.900
than to vote for either me or Trump, is what Mitt Romney said, her uncle.
00:40:19.420
Ronna has said that I'm the only candidate who won't get a cent of funding from the RNC.
00:40:31.840
It's like the equivalent of a squatter in a rent-controlled apartment that think they own the place.
00:40:37.360
I mean, that's what you see in a lot of this dirty world of Republican partisan politics.
00:40:46.160
None of them care about the country at all, nor the people in it.
00:40:49.620
Some of them- some people are- I've met some good people who are, you know, even a couple
00:40:53.740
in Congress and some who will be state legislators.
00:40:56.700
I mean, some people, I think, are earnestly in this for good reasons, and that's been eye-opening
00:41:03.740
I think more and more, because you said you're feeling it.
00:41:07.560
Oh, in terms of the people on the ground, absolutely.
00:41:12.080
In terms of the people who go into politics, I'm encouraging more of us to do it.
00:41:20.040
Regular people who can put two and two together.
00:41:30.080
We put tens of millions of dollars of our hard-earned money into this campaign.
00:41:34.860
It's hard-earned, self-made, but I- what is the point of having money if you're going
00:41:40.820
To bring jobs back here, what are you going to do about that?
00:41:49.420
That's where most of those regulations are coming from.
00:41:56.740
Stop paying people more money to stay at home instead of to go to work.
00:42:02.080
They need a CEO in the White House who can do it.
00:42:10.720
Well, actually, I'm not making this up, Roseanne.
00:42:16.020
And we get a lot of people coming to our events.
00:42:23.180
And one actually even raised his hand and asked from the audience.
00:42:25.620
He said, I came in here thinking I wanted you to be Trump's VP, but I'm leaving here
00:42:31.860
And they're coming at it from a place of love for him.
00:42:36.480
It would be a good job for him because then he's in his 80s.
00:42:39.520
He doesn't have to put himself through that hell again.
00:42:42.260
It almost comes from a place of love for them, for him, but also of this country.
00:42:51.340
If he was my VP or my advisor, I would take him as a mentor and advisor.
00:42:59.340
I mean, I didn't get to where I am in life and you didn't get to probably where you
00:43:02.540
are in life, but at least for me, the way my brain works, it's almost like I have a
00:43:13.800
My gut instinct is I have no polling data or math.
00:43:25.000
Which sounds crazy because right now I'm polling at fourth in most of the polls.
00:43:33.680
A lot of the people supporting us are first time ever caucus goers and they're not polled.
00:43:42.440
So if they show up, I think they're going to show up.
00:43:45.020
I think if they show up, I think we're going to deliver a shock in Iowa.
00:43:48.940
But regardless, I'm in this for the country, right?
00:44:00.200
I mean, to tell you, some people might want to be president to ride on Air Force One.
00:44:04.180
I mean, just some real talk, you know, probably similar for you.
00:44:07.680
I mean, it's not that much of an upgrade from what I've been doing.
00:44:12.100
I'm not in this for the trappings of being the U.S. president, right?
00:44:15.200
It's actually a lot easier and more comfortable for me if we don't.
00:44:17.360
But I'm doing this because I don't think we have a lot of time left as a country.
00:44:22.900
If the interest payments on our national debt become the largest line item in our federal budget,
00:44:27.960
which is about the next five years, we don't have a country left.
00:44:34.240
They will not have the same country to grow up in.
00:44:36.160
And I don't believe somebody else is going to be able to do that for the next generation
00:44:40.940
and reach them and revive who we are in the way that I hope to for this country.
00:44:56.420
Because we know the negatives on your – Anomaly is a good friend of ours.
00:45:04.120
But there's talk that you've been funded by Soros and the WEF.
00:45:11.020
At first, I was like – I think skepticism is good.
00:45:17.040
They don't trust – Republicans don't trust anybody.
00:45:18.800
Yeah, but just make your own judgments on the facts, please.
00:45:23.240
I mean, mainstream media will force feed you stuff, but Twitter will force feed you.
00:45:30.360
I don't mind for me, but it's just – Jesus Christ, people.
00:45:39.020
So, I have zero time in my life with George Soros.
00:45:41.520
When I was 24, I got a scholarship from a generalized, generic scholarship that thousands of kids apply for.
00:45:51.040
I submitted on a Monday – on the Sunday night before a Monday deadline.
00:45:56.840
Funded by some other guy, a dead guy who's dead now, called Paul Soros, who's a relative of George Soros, who – any student can win that scholarship.
00:46:05.660
If I tell your kids and my kids the same thing, somebody's going to give you that money and you want to pay for school, go for it, you take it, and you're on.
00:46:14.100
I stepped down from my job as a CEO because nobody's going to put a muzzle on me and stop me from speaking.
00:46:23.120
Now, they like to name young billionaires or whatever on their list of people who win an award.
00:46:38.260
And so that's kind of how I roll – excuse the crass language.
00:46:43.100
These people – these are not people who share our ideals.
00:46:48.080
But if – for people at home to just sort of make sure that you're wisened up.
00:46:57.940
Ron DeSantis had a fundraiser last summer, this past summer, with a George Soros investment partner for his presidential run.
00:47:04.140
Heck, Donald Trump took a $160 million loan from George Soros.
00:47:13.120
But they used to say the same stuff about Trump with Hillary Clinton or otherwise.
00:47:22.600
It seems like a lot of people online that will pop up and say something.
00:47:30.520
Because you have a government that has lied to us for a long time.
00:47:34.200
People should be skeptical of anybody who's new.
00:47:36.500
But at a certain point, people, you got the facts in front of you.
00:47:39.160
We don't have time to waste on this friendly fire BS.
00:47:47.940
I mean, the things I'm saying about January 6th.
00:47:55.320
A clear case of, increasingly clear case of entrapment.
00:48:05.400
We're allowing a Ukrainian kleptocrat to buy a bigger house.
00:48:08.520
Using our taxpayer money to do it so we can cut Social Security and Medicare here.
00:48:11.900
But there's a reason I'm the only person in this race who's able to say certain of those things.
00:48:17.280
I'm the only person in this race who can say certain things.
00:48:21.680
Not a single one has been able to say certain of those things.
00:48:24.900
And the reason is I'm not bought and paid for as some pawn on a chessboard.
00:48:29.740
This country has allowed us to live the American dream.
00:48:36.380
I'm not doing that to be somebody's pawn or circus monkey.
00:48:41.300
Somebody with fresh legs who can't be paid for.
00:48:44.160
That's what it's going to take to save this country.
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00:50:14.060
I'd really like to talk real deep politics with you next time.
00:50:18.200
I feel like we're just getting to know each other this time.
00:50:25.440
Because I did feel like we were a little dour there.
00:50:34.220
Because I'm not going to be the guy who says it's morning in America because it's not.
00:50:43.060
And I think it's going to take somebody whose best days in life are still yet ahead.
00:50:52.680
But somebody whose best days in life are still ahead.
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So we'll tell the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts.
00:52:07.860
But that doesn't mean that it has to stay in the same place it is today.
00:52:17.200
Assange, Douglas Mackey, Owen Schroyer, any peaceful J6 protester, Donald Trump.
00:52:28.860
One standard of the rule of law in this country.
00:52:39.440
And DOJ we're completely replacing and turning over.
00:52:43.280
Have a failed Bureau of Investigation, as I like to call it.
00:52:50.320
Because this is going to go at the tail end of the Vivek interview.
00:52:54.020
He had to run, so we have to kill like 15 minutes.
00:52:57.560
I love that he said he was going to pardon Assange and get rid of the FBI.
00:53:04.400
But he didn't seem to, he didn't like the WEF and Soros stuff being brought up.
00:53:09.420
And I feel bad for him because he did make a good point.
00:53:12.460
They've all taken funding from different places.
00:53:15.000
Why is he the only one that's being kind of held to account?
00:53:17.660
But I think the real problem with Vivek is he's so well-spoken.
00:53:23.060
Like, when he was sitting here, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm voting for Vivek.
00:53:31.060
Well, the way I thought about him is that I was going to say this to him, but you kept interrupting me.
00:53:37.500
But I wanted to say, I think he's been very useful to Trump because he does stick up for Trump.
00:53:44.300
And, you know, he goes, well, you guys are liars to the press.
00:53:50.480
You know, it's cool that he has Trump's back like that.
00:53:53.060
Well, I think I do believe that he does want to tell the truth.
00:53:58.400
Like I said, the things I don't like about him is that I like him, which is really not his fault.
00:54:04.320
I don't like that he's intelligent because then I'm like, okay, I don't trust him.
00:54:10.400
No, I think he's one of the – I think he's got a part to play and he's playing it well.
00:54:15.300
But I think he likes Trump because he's sincere.
00:54:18.140
Like when he was talking about Gen 6 and all that stuff, like entrapment was sincere.
00:54:23.500
Did you see that clip with the woman just trying to interrupt him for three straight minutes?
00:54:27.920
She kept interrupting him for three straight minutes and he was so good.
00:54:31.140
He was like, you know, I know this is not a narrative you want to hear.
00:54:37.020
But I really think – I think he's sincere in that shit.
00:54:42.940
I think he actually – the reason he's nice to Trump is because he's not deranged.
00:54:50.020
Like everyone likes Trump that's not out of their fucking mind.
00:54:56.300
You think Trump's – you think – because I know you have conspiratorial thinking.
00:55:01.800
So you think – do you think Trump's behind Vivek, like Vivek?
00:55:05.280
So you think Vivek is part of the Trump campaign?
00:55:28.040
But do you think Trump's funding their campaigns or they're part of it or like how deep does this –
00:55:37.960
Because Vivek's thing is to show people like you don't really want libertarians.
00:56:04.260
He could because they got a lot of libtards over there in Iowa.
00:56:08.040
Well, he thinks it's the young Republicans that are going to come out and vote for him.
00:56:13.560
No, it's the libtards that are sick of the dams that will come out for him.
00:56:17.140
But you're going to be in Iowa campaigning for Trump.
00:56:21.780
So it's weird that I'll be campaigning against Vivek.
00:56:33.460
You're probably going to vote for him just because his name sounds like cake.
00:56:38.680
I don't think he can win Iowa, but what if he has a stronger than predicted polling?
00:56:47.940
He should reconsider being the vice, and Trump should have him be the vice.
00:56:54.340
He should be the vice under Trump in case, God forbid, then he would have paid his dues.
00:57:02.140
But he hadn't paid any dues to come up against Trump.
00:57:06.360
He's an upstart, and he better not go too far with that because people are sick of that shit.
00:57:25.820
I was so pissed at the time because I wanted Hillary at that time.
00:57:30.480
And they did steal it from her and give it to him, and I was one of them that was going to fight to the death for Hillary against him
00:57:37.520
because I knew they had gave it to a young man over a woman who deserved it.
00:57:45.940
He was also African-American, or at least half African.
00:57:56.840
It was what was happening in corporatocracy all the time.
00:58:00.440
Women were training young males that would get their jobs, and it was that.
00:58:15.260
I think Obama's, it's probably the only election that was legitimate was that election.
00:58:24.460
No, because I actually saw Obama speak at the DNC for, I think it was for John Kerry, and he was the star of that.
00:58:32.760
I said, that guy's going to be president, and everyone thought I was crazy.
00:58:38.380
I have to say that I liked him in spite of myself, or himself, or however you say it, until I found out all his money was coming from nukes.
00:58:50.800
No, he ended up being a horrible, horrible president, a horrible, horrible person.
00:58:57.700
It wasn't enough time, but he was plagiarizing a couple times Obama's speech.
00:59:05.320
Like, I'm the guy with the brown guy with the funny name.
00:59:14.880
He's studied in his movements, but I was looking at the head, you know, because I go by the head shapes.
00:59:20.540
Not the skin color or the other racial characteristics.
00:59:26.400
Well, he's got one of those heads that comes from, he's got the kind of head that it's very full at the top and not well-rounded in the middle.
00:59:46.900
Would you support a 2028 Vivek, knowing what you know now?
00:59:50.440
I have to hear him talk because I don't like what he said about the U.S. and Israel either.
00:59:56.060
Oh, I think he said the same thing you and I said, that Israel should stop taking help from America and just go fucking wipe out Hamas.
01:00:07.280
Yeah, well, no, he's saying Israel should literally be able to destroy the Gaza and kill all of Hamas and do what they have to do.
01:00:13.960
Biden's telling them to stop because they're taking our aid.
01:00:16.760
So he was saying if they were outside of aid, they could go do what they have to do.
01:00:23.160
But I don't like America trying to tell another country what they can do to defend themselves.
01:00:30.340
Yeah, but he was also, that's what he's like, Israel probably doesn't like that.
01:00:35.940
But we do pay for Israel's military, a large portion of it, right?
01:00:43.580
We give them aid and then force them to buy our weapons.
01:00:49.260
It's a roundabout deal like everything the Democrats do.
01:00:52.980
It's a, you know, they used to call that the reach around.
01:01:04.260
Well, I think, I think if Israel's able to support its own military, then they should
01:01:10.880
cut ties with America and then go fucking turn the Middle East to glass.
01:01:14.680
I just don't think America should be telling other nations how they can defend themselves.
01:01:48.300
Well, Vivek, good luck to you in Iowa and we'll see you after.
01:01:56.040
I'm going to be kicking your ass in Iowa, Vivek.