The Roseanne Barr Podcast - It's a Vibe with Berry Gordy IV ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #082

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00:01:24.780 You know, I'm trying to come up with a new thing besides my old one, which was always greetings, earthlings.

00:01:31.520 I think I'll just stick with greetings, earthlings.

00:01:33.900 I love it. You talk about animals. That's what we are.

00:01:36.640 Yeah.

00:01:37.120 Yeah, I know. I love that.

00:01:38.400 Because I'm saying they are so much more advanced spiritually than us, because they don't have 0.92

00:01:43.700 to bullshit their self or lie or try to get one over on the other animals. 0.54

00:01:48.460 They're honest. 0.99

00:01:49.820 Yes.

00:01:50.260 They do nothing opposite of God.

00:01:53.100 Hello. I can't wait to start talking to you. Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.

00:01:58.040 Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.

00:02:04.520 We have a banger times 64, as was Hanukkah. We have a banger show today with Barry Gordy Jr.

00:02:16.020 The fourth.

00:02:16.680 The fourth.

00:02:17.360 Yes.

00:02:17.920 Who they call B4.

00:02:21.140 That's right.

00:02:21.540 Which I love that, that your name is B4. That's so, so very cool. And you sent me your book,

00:02:30.480 which is entitled Life Before, Living Life Before Words.

00:02:36.320 That's it.

00:02:36.740 And I am so on about all of that, and always have been, but needed to read it in your, the

00:02:48.160 way you put it, to know that I've always known this. It was beneath words, or above them.

00:02:56.240 It was somewhere where words ain't.

00:02:58.220 Yeah. Without words. It was before words.

00:03:02.240 Oh, right. Yes, before words.

00:03:05.120 Well, that's kind of, in a way, biblical, because it's like, you know, when they made that Tower

00:03:10.540 of Babel, that was to confound language, why everybody would be speaking a hundred languages

00:03:16.220 at once, none of them which meant anything.

00:03:18.920 Right, right.

00:03:19.120 Kind of like now.

00:03:20.120 Yeah, yeah, right, right.

00:03:22.020 But, yeah, animals, they do better on this earth than we do, simply and maybe, because they

00:03:33.300 don't use words to confound, betray, screw up.

00:03:39.140 Right.

00:03:40.640 Right?

00:03:41.460 Well, they don't use words, and we're animals too.

00:03:45.800 Right.

00:03:46.200 So, we weren't created to use words either.

00:03:50.200 So, humans created the words, not God.

00:03:53.380 And that's why life is so complicated, because we're living two lives.

00:03:56.900 We're living, we always live our true life with God.

00:04:00.120 That's what we feel.

00:04:00.920 We feel our emotions, our instincts, our intuition.

00:04:04.080 That's all spiritual.

00:04:05.580 Right.

00:04:05.940 It has nothing to do with words.

00:04:07.380 But, when we created words, we put words on top of those emotions, and that's why life

00:04:13.100 is so complicated, because we're fighting these feelings all the time.

00:04:16.840 We know what we feel, and then the words never represent what our true feelings are, ever.

00:04:22.600 No, ever.

00:04:23.440 Ever.

00:04:24.160 Because you can't describe an emotion.

00:04:26.740 You can't describe God.

00:04:29.120 You can't put God in a word.

00:04:31.040 No.

00:04:31.500 You're not supposed to, neither.

00:04:32.720 So, that's what it is with the words.

00:04:36.720 That's why our lives get so confusing.

00:04:40.480 Now, how old were you the first time you knew that you were called to say things in

00:04:54.340 a different way that hadn't been said before?

00:04:57.100 Well, that's a long story.

00:04:58.400 Okay, but just go to, where's the beginning of you?

00:05:02.220 I was 25 when that happened, yeah.

00:05:05.060 Okay.

00:05:05.680 And it was a long story with my father, because I love my father so much, and it was very confusing

00:05:13.420 for me to understand.

00:05:14.440 And we had three relationships.

00:05:16.960 My father, the father and son, strongest, best friend, second strongest.

00:05:22.560 And then he was my boss, the chairman of the board.

00:05:24.940 I used to work, you know, my father founded Motown.

00:05:28.100 Right.

00:05:28.360 Yeah, and he was the chairman of the board.

00:05:32.200 And at 25, he...

00:05:33.980 I mean, it's so not, it's just for me to say for a minute, as a person who lived through

00:05:40.700 that.

00:05:41.320 Yeah.

00:05:41.480 It wasn't just founding Motown, it was a change of the American landscape in every possible

00:05:49.620 way.

00:05:50.560 Yeah.

00:05:50.740 In every possible way.

00:05:53.820 And I was a kid during it, and it was something we never have seen the like of since.

00:06:01.020 No, pretty amazing.

00:06:02.440 I mean, just for me looking at it from the outside, not being in there, you know, it's

00:06:07.780 really what an accomplishment it was.

00:06:10.440 And, you know, I actually saw him do it from the beginning.

00:06:13.380 Right.

00:06:13.720 You know, I was four when Motown was, you know, when he founded Motown.

00:06:16.920 So it's an incredible, you know, journey.

00:06:19.440 But I developed such a love for my father, my best friend.

00:06:23.940 And when he, so I was working in the company at 25, and he promoted me a little too much.

00:06:31.140 I shouldn't have been in this position.

00:06:32.660 I was in head of creative.

00:06:34.620 And so we had an argument one day in the meeting, and he had two or three other executives there.

00:06:41.580 And he listened to what they had to say, but he didn't really listen to what I had to say.

00:06:47.120 And he was right, because I didn't know what I was saying.

00:06:48.920 And so we argued, and then there was a little voice came into my head, says, the stronger

00:06:55.080 you are with your dad, he will respect you more.

00:06:57.820 And so would the other executives.

00:06:59.080 So I stayed to it.

00:07:00.440 And boy, we got in this argument.

00:07:02.280 And then I start crying, you know.

00:07:05.480 And I didn't want the other executives to see me cry.

00:07:07.800 So I peeked over, and they were looking.

00:07:09.640 So that's when I left the meeting.

00:07:12.760 I was in the meeting, and I went and sat on the piano bench while my dad continued with

00:07:17.140 the meeting.

00:07:17.620 And I spoke to God.

00:07:20.520 I said, I don't understand why I don't understand my dad.

00:07:23.280 I've got to understand my father.

00:07:24.180 Everybody puts it on another person.

00:07:25.960 Right.

00:07:26.140 They never think about themselves.

00:07:27.860 Isn't that right?

00:07:28.840 Yeah.

00:07:29.320 Uh-huh.

00:07:29.860 And so then God spoke to me then and said, in order for you to understand your father,

00:07:35.320 you must first understand yourself.

00:07:37.160 That's good.

00:07:37.680 And that sounded profound.

00:07:39.440 Yes.

00:07:39.640 I said, how do I understand myself?

00:07:41.780 And then God said, just consult your real truth.

00:07:45.120 That's what God is, your real truth.

00:07:47.360 God said, you also created a false truth, the truth that you let everybody else see.

00:07:52.380 Right.

00:07:52.860 You know.

00:07:53.500 And so in order to find who you are spiritually, you have to consult the real truth exclusively.

00:07:58.760 And so I left Motown for two and a half years and I went on this spiritual journey.

00:08:06.140 And that's when Living Life Before Words came to me because, and the first thing that came

00:08:10.540 to me about Living Life Before Words was the fact that we're animals.

00:08:13.780 Animals don't use words.

00:08:16.540 That was my very first thing.

00:08:19.040 And then by understanding that, I understood myself, which means I understand a man.

00:08:24.340 See, I understand men.

00:08:26.120 And then once you understand man, then you're going to understand your father.

00:08:30.100 And then once you understand your father, you understand someone outside yourself, then

00:08:33.760 you understand woman.

00:08:34.620 Because there, it, we all are instructed, created spiritually exactly the same.

00:08:42.040 That's right.

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00:10:32.840 So that's how Living Life Before Words came to be.

00:10:35.940 So for two and a half years, I mean, I crowned everything.

00:10:38.380 I wrote it all down.

00:10:39.600 I did all the stuff that was coming out of order.

00:10:41.140 Or you were just on a, like, I don't know, quest kind of thing.

00:10:46.100 To find myself.

00:10:47.060 Yeah, but you were writing a lot, meditating a lot, living off the grid.

00:10:50.440 Yeah, I did meditate as well.

00:10:51.540 Or what were you doing, living in hotels?

00:10:53.940 No, I was at home.

00:10:55.480 Okay.

00:10:55.840 You know, the first day I was licking my wounds, but then I found myself.

00:11:03.460 But that's where all this knowledge came to.

00:11:05.420 And the bottom line is that we're animals before words were ever created.

00:11:09.820 God created us perfectly as animals.

00:11:12.280 We're a perfect animal, just like all the other animals.

00:11:15.020 And we're no different than all the other animals either.

00:11:17.560 We are no different.

00:11:18.380 We're no different.

00:11:19.200 We're all our animals, different species.

00:11:20.800 But every animal has maybe a unique physical body.

00:11:25.780 But the spirit inside of every animal is God.

00:11:28.640 That's right.

00:11:29.520 It's the same God.

00:11:30.840 All life.

00:11:31.900 Say that again. 0.71

00:11:33.200 All life.

00:11:34.200 All life.

00:11:35.380 Yeah, and so then I started dealing with words.

00:11:39.120 And then words complicates everything.

00:11:42.600 So anyway, that's a long answer to your question.

00:11:46.580 But that was the answer to it.

00:11:48.620 But you, well, I think that that comes from the fact that, like, the first thing I was

00:11:53.860 reading in your book is that it was your dad that said you could do whatever you want

00:12:00.060 to do, but don't ever lie to him.

00:12:03.560 Well.

00:12:04.660 Right?

00:12:05.700 Well, that's what started my truth.

00:12:07.820 And I was three years old.

00:12:08.380 Right.

00:12:08.680 I love that.

00:12:09.640 I was three years old.

00:12:10.980 Yeah, I was three also.

00:12:12.340 You was three when?

00:12:13.000 I knew you was three at some point, but what happened at three?

00:12:16.100 The same thing that happened to you.

00:12:18.140 What do you mean?

00:12:19.220 Just the knowing thing.

00:12:21.260 Yeah.

00:12:21.700 Yeah.

00:12:21.920 We're very smart at three.

00:12:23.460 Yeah.

00:12:24.020 People are smart.

00:12:25.000 So what happened was, you know, living in Detroit, love Detroit, shout out to Detroit.

00:12:29.280 I mean, you have to be strong in Detroit to survive.

00:12:32.380 And anyway, my dad, this was before Motown, actually, at three years old.

00:12:39.240 And I'm going to, my household was a typical household.

00:12:43.440 I had my mama, my sister Hazel, my brother Terry, my younger brother Terry.

00:12:47.400 But my grandmother was there all the time, Gigi. 0.91

00:12:50.380 And she was the matriarch. 1.00

00:12:52.960 She ran things.

00:12:54.300 Of course.

00:12:54.880 So my dad, he was having a tough time making money.

00:12:57.940 I mean, and we were really poor.

00:12:59.600 I mean, we used to hide from bill collectors.

00:13:01.440 Yeah, we did that.

00:13:02.220 I love that.

00:13:03.020 Uh-oh.

00:13:03.340 That made me laugh because we did that too, hiding behind the blinds with the lights on.

00:13:09.280 It was a game.

00:13:10.760 We did it so much.

00:13:11.780 We were ready.

00:13:13.140 Yeah, we knew it too.

00:13:14.080 Don't answer the, you know, be quiet.

00:13:16.220 Hold your breath.

00:13:16.920 We hear a knock on the door.

00:13:17.800 We'd just get up and go into the basement.

00:13:20.500 Yes, we'd just stand up off the couch and just go in, open, go through the kitchen, open the door and stand on the steps.

00:13:27.340 Yeah, it was a routine and it was a game to us.

00:13:29.800 It wasn't a big deal.

00:13:31.000 But they would get on my dad for not making money.

00:13:33.240 They used to say, hey, you know, he would look like a whoop puppy dog.

00:13:37.080 Honestly, he looks so sad.

00:13:38.540 And so growing up, you know, your dad's supposed to be the king in the castle in the house.

00:13:43.140 Gigi was the king.

00:13:44.380 My grandmother was the king, you know, and he knew it.

00:13:49.200 Was that his mom?

00:13:50.240 That was my mom's mom.

00:13:51.200 Okay, so that's double mom.

00:13:52.920 Oh, yeah.

00:13:53.600 And my mom, wonderful, the best mom.

00:13:56.080 But that was her mom.

00:13:56.940 So, you know, it was like, thanks.

00:13:58.280 So what happened was, after they had an argument and my dad called me in the room, he said,

00:14:04.740 Littleberry, come in.

00:14:06.180 I can still see it today.

00:14:07.660 You know, he was cool.

00:14:08.780 He had a little do-rag on and stuff.

00:14:10.740 I didn't know the pants he had on.

00:14:12.560 And he looked down at me and I looked in his eyes and he was very sad, you know, because

00:14:17.940 there was an argument and he lost all of them.

00:14:21.380 He lost them all.

00:14:22.320 Of course.

00:14:22.720 He lost them all.

00:14:23.940 And so he looked at me and said, son, if you always tell me the truth, you'll never get

00:14:29.820 in trouble.

00:14:30.960 And this way, I'll be able to trust you and you'll always be able to trust me.

00:14:35.840 And so I thought about it for a minute because I used to lie a lot.

00:14:40.580 And I used to tell the truth a lot.

00:14:42.400 And whenever I told the truth, I would still kind of get in trouble.

00:14:45.680 I know.

00:14:46.360 Me too, right?

00:14:47.640 I went through that exact same thing.

00:14:49.560 Yeah, so.

00:14:50.160 And then you're like, I thought.

00:14:51.580 Like, yeah, so I didn't know if I believed it.

00:14:54.120 Yeah.

00:14:54.620 But about a week later, I tracked some mud into my bedroom or something.

00:14:59.000 I know I did it.

00:15:00.220 And my dad called me in and says, did you bring that mud into your room?

00:15:04.360 And at first, I want to lie.

00:15:05.520 You know, you get that instinct to lie.

00:15:07.160 You want to survive or protect yourself.

00:15:09.580 So I was thinking I should stay with my brother, Terry.

00:15:12.440 I'll blame everything on Terry, you know.

00:15:14.760 You know.

00:15:16.120 And I looked at him and he looked.

00:15:19.060 He looked so pitiful.

00:15:20.020 I said, I said, take a chance on this guy, you know.

00:15:25.400 And I did.

00:15:26.460 I said, yes, Dad, I did it.

00:15:28.780 And I could feel that today when I said, just the same feeling.

00:15:32.020 And it was so strong.

00:15:34.200 And I closed my eyes.

00:15:36.160 Because I used to, he used to spank me really well, a lot.

00:15:39.440 And so I was expecting a spanker.

00:15:41.140 And he hugged me.

00:15:42.960 And I could actually feel the chill come up and down my spine when he hugged me, you know.

00:15:47.060 And from that day on, from three, I started trusting him.

00:15:51.940 And that's how he became my best friend.

00:15:53.720 I mean, we're like, wait a day.

00:15:55.880 The same relationship we haven't had all.

00:15:58.300 It's the same.

00:15:59.000 It's amazing.

00:16:00.220 And I made a dedication to never lie to him.

00:16:02.660 And that was a challenge because we're conditioned to lie.

00:16:05.800 Right.

00:16:06.180 We're animals.

00:16:07.300 We're talking about surviving is the most important thing for animals.

00:16:10.200 So you will survive.

00:16:11.600 And the thing is lie.

00:16:12.660 Don't do this.

00:16:13.500 Yeah.

00:16:14.160 And I got to the point where I said, with my dad, I said, because my mind would always come in with an alternative to win.

00:16:21.120 You know, it would be a lie.

00:16:22.380 Oh, I know.

00:16:23.280 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:24.160 Yeah.

00:16:25.040 And I had to fight that back.

00:16:27.020 Yeah.

00:16:27.300 And I took a chance.

00:16:28.740 Every time I said, then I got to the point where, just tell them.

00:16:31.840 You know, don't even think about it.

00:16:33.960 And that's our relationship.

00:16:35.440 So that's what happened.

00:16:37.520 So when I was 25 in Motown, I had all that going for me.

00:16:40.860 So he was always my dad, you know.

00:16:42.640 And so the chairman thing came in.

00:16:44.540 And that's how I found Living Life Before Words.

00:16:47.360 But he implanted a love of truth in you, right?

00:16:51.060 Yes.

00:16:51.640 Yes.

00:16:52.140 That was your truth.

00:16:53.360 That's absolutely right.

00:16:55.380 He did.

00:16:56.260 Because that's how he is.

00:16:57.940 He really is that way.

00:16:59.900 He's a great person, generous person, smart.

00:17:03.500 He would have to be to accomplish what he, because, you know, I mean, excuse me, but a-holes don't accomplish to that level. 1.00

00:17:13.360 I agree with you.

00:17:14.100 Right?

00:17:14.580 Yes.

00:17:14.840 It's like a good idea at the right time with the right person for the right reason.

00:17:18.660 All the rights line up.

00:17:21.680 That's what makes success, I think, you know.

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00:19:07.700 I think you're right, and you have to be very smart.

00:19:10.820 And I think being truthful is spiritual, you know, and it's a God thing.

00:19:15.520 It is, because God is the truth.

00:19:17.300 I mean, to me, it's so amazing, honestly, when I look back, because I look at him as my dad, but then I step out and look at him as what he's accomplished and how he accomplished it.

00:19:27.140 I was there on day one, pretty much, when he bought the Motown.

00:19:30.700 You know, he borrowed $800 from his family.

00:19:32.740 I don't know if you know the story.

00:19:34.060 I don't.

00:19:34.320 I mean, you should tell it.

00:19:36.080 I love it, and I don't know it.

00:19:37.320 I wish you would tell it.

00:19:38.260 Okay, well, he borrowed $800.

00:19:44.160 His family, his brothers and sisters, had a fund, the Gordie Fund.

00:19:48.060 And he and his older sister, Esther, Aunt Esther, managed it.

00:19:53.000 She was in charge.

00:19:54.100 And he went to her to get a loan because he wanted to start the record company.

00:19:58.900 And he went in for $1,000, but she gave him $800.

00:20:01.820 And so he went.

00:20:02.720 I don't know how he bought a house for $800.

00:20:04.220 I don't know how it worked, but he went and got a house, the one on West Grand Boulevard, the Motown Iconic Building.

00:20:11.900 I think it's 2848 or something like that.

00:20:14.400 It's in Detroit.

00:20:16.880 And he, you know, so I was with him when he did it, but he brought in all these great, talented people, and he had to manage these people.

00:20:27.640 But my dad was a songwriter before, he used to work at Ford Motor Company before he started Motown.

00:20:33.620 But he also was moonlighting as a songwriter.

00:20:36.200 So he knew music very well.

00:20:38.040 He wrote Jackie Wilson's, you remember Jackie Wilson's?

00:20:40.540 Yeah.

00:20:40.720 Well, you heard Repetit, To Be Loved, you know, and all these songs.

00:20:45.640 And he wrote those songs.

00:20:47.600 Yeah.

00:20:47.940 Yeah.

00:20:48.340 And that's, so he wasn't making no money, but he wrote those songs.

00:20:51.960 So he had it in his thing.

00:20:52.920 So I'm just, when I look back and see how he managed all these great stars, because they were coming in, they were just kids, but he managed them and brought in great writers and talented people.

00:21:03.240 And so anyway, it's, I'm very proud of him.

00:21:06.400 He did it in a real, you know, moral way too.

00:21:09.280 Like he wasn't having any big old sex parties and such, I imagine, right?

00:21:15.600 Well, let me tell you why that happened.

00:21:16.980 You're right.

00:21:17.420 Like I was mentioning, he met, he wrote Jackie Wilson's hits.

00:21:23.640 Yeah.

00:21:23.980 And then he, he met his best friend, Smokey Robinson.

00:21:28.860 Mm-hmm.

00:21:29.600 And when he was, he was in, my dad was in Jackie Wilson's manager's office because my dad was kind of a big deal, although he wasn't making money.

00:21:37.220 He was writing Jackie Wilson some hits, you know.

00:21:39.680 And so Smokey Robinson came in there for Jackie Wilson's manager to manage him with Smokey Robinson, the matador.

00:21:47.000 I mean, it wasn't the Miracles yet.

00:21:48.240 Right.

00:21:48.440 But his group.

00:21:49.800 And then, so my dad, so my dad, so the manager didn't like him.

00:21:56.120 Right.

00:21:56.180 And kind of, I'm going to say kicked him out the office, but I might be in dramatic, but he said leave, you know.

00:22:01.020 And they left and I call him Uncle Smokey because that's when my dad introduced us when we was three.

00:22:06.380 This is your Uncle Smokey.

00:22:07.500 So we call him Uncle Smokey.

00:22:08.760 So he put his, you know, songs on his arm in his loose bookcase or whatever and walked out.

00:22:16.540 And my dad went after him and said, I love your songs because my dad was a songwriter.

00:22:20.380 And then he's, so Smokey had a hundred songs that he wrote.

00:22:24.120 Wow.

00:22:24.580 Yeah, a hundred songs.

00:22:26.020 And my dad said, listen, your lyrics are great.

00:22:28.340 Your ideas are great, but your structure.

00:22:29.980 So my dad was, he knew the business of writing songs.

00:22:32.820 And so he structured Uncle Smokey, you know, how to write.

00:22:37.840 And so one day, so they became best friends.

00:22:40.620 You know, Richard Pryor said Smokey Robinson was the greatest American poet of all time.

00:22:46.120 Yeah.

00:22:46.660 I mean, he is amazing.

00:22:49.360 It's incredible poetry.

00:22:51.460 Well, it is.

00:22:53.240 And he's got, you know, when you're around him, he's poetic when you're just talking to him, to be honest with you.

00:22:58.240 You know, you just say, hey, man, and he'll come up with something.

00:23:00.640 He's an artist through and through.

00:23:02.420 And he's a wonderful, wonderful person.

00:23:04.120 Just a great person.

00:23:05.440 So what happened was, so they were best friends.

00:23:08.620 And my dad got a royalty check.

00:23:10.460 He had a hit song.

00:23:11.380 And the royalty check was for $1.37.

00:23:16.040 Wow.

00:23:17.000 And then Uncle Smokey told my dad, he says, hey, man, you can do better than this.

00:23:21.020 Maybe you should start your own record company.

00:23:23.420 And so my dad said, yeah, if I start a record company, you know, I'll be able to pay the writer's right.

00:23:29.440 I'll pay the artist's right.

00:23:30.940 And that was how he started Motown.

00:23:33.800 And so that's when he went and borrowed $800 and started it.

00:23:38.280 And my dad's philosophy for Motown was very simple.

00:23:41.360 My dad used to write, used to work on, in Ford Motor Company, on the assembly line.

00:23:46.460 Right.

00:23:47.100 Yeah.

00:23:47.560 And so, do you know the story?

00:23:49.060 Yeah.

00:23:49.400 Okay, so.

00:23:50.140 But tell it.

00:23:50.660 Yeah.

00:23:51.080 So what happened was, dad envisioned creating a record label to create stars, just like the assembly line.

00:23:57.960 Right, right.

00:23:58.340 You know, you have all the parts at the beginning, and it goes down the assembly line,

00:24:01.860 and it ends up being a spanking new, beautiful car.

00:24:05.160 So he would want to get artists, unknown artists, and make them and create them.

00:24:12.140 And then through the process.

00:24:14.060 It's kind of like a finishing school, like send them to this to learn that.

00:24:18.340 Yeah.

00:24:18.900 Well, that all came later at some point.

00:24:22.120 Yeah.

00:24:22.460 With the polishing, with the dancing and all that stuff.

00:24:25.160 That came a little later.

00:24:26.000 My dad was interested in hit songs, hit songs, you know.

00:24:29.320 And so he started, that's how we started Motown, and then Smokey had a big influence on that.

00:24:35.180 And Smokey was one of the first real big writers at Motown.

00:24:38.560 You know, Mary Wells.

00:24:39.740 Right.

00:24:40.320 You know, you beat me to the punch, Two Lovers.

00:24:43.740 That's all Smokey.

00:24:44.640 Some of the Temptations early.

00:24:46.120 So all these artists are coming in.

00:24:47.880 And my dad got a great guy called William Mickey Stevenson to, he was a young kid.

00:24:54.960 So they got him in there to be the A&R director, which got all the Funk Brothers, which is the Motown band.

00:25:02.280 So my, so, you know, just watching my dad, how he did these things was just amazing to me.

00:25:07.880 Because, but he's a good person, smart, and talented.

00:25:11.440 So, yeah.

00:25:12.360 And he had a vision, clearly, with the assembly line.

00:25:15.780 I know, but it was, it was, it's still used.

00:25:20.580 I mean, his ideas are still used and proven to be, I mean, it's just, I mean, it's too bad that they've been misused by lesser people.

00:25:32.500 But he knew how to give us what we want as an audience.

00:25:39.840 It was so amazing because here's a black-owned company competing against, you know, established, you know, like, it was a civil rights area. 0.51

00:25:48.420 I know, that's why I say it was so huge.

00:25:50.360 And for him to break through, you know, he had a great support team.

00:25:55.740 He had to pick great people, which he did.

00:25:58.720 And, you know, and he had to get talented people to come in and, and had to put it all together.

00:26:06.300 But he had some great things that he used to do, you know, to get the songs played.

00:26:11.280 And, you know, he had just philosophies, you know, he created a quality control department.

00:26:17.860 He made, you know, where all the songs would be.

00:26:20.160 Anyway, I can go on and on with, with it because it's so, with so much.

00:26:23.640 And it was really, really, you know, incredible just to be there and see that stuff, you know.

00:26:27.980 Well, then that puts you as, you know, the son, the, I don't want to say the watcher, but the viewer kind of thing.

00:26:35.800 I mean, you get to see all that.

00:26:37.100 So that, of course, influences you to where you go to in creating your philosophy.

00:26:43.820 So that's why I'm saying when I'm reading your stuff, I can see how you had such a broad view.

00:26:49.380 I mean, you were given such a broad view just by virtue of having that be your dad and all that that meant.

00:26:55.720 But your, your view of things is huge.

00:27:00.260 And I want to talk about that.

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00:27:04.940 I don't even know.

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00:27:12.480 That's what I can figure.

00:27:13.780 That's interesting that you say that.

00:27:15.760 Well, thank you.

00:27:16.420 Well, I'm going to tell you something.

00:27:17.720 Everything I know, you know.

00:27:20.500 Well, vice versa.

00:27:21.860 I know that.

00:27:22.580 Yeah.

00:27:22.740 Everything I know, you know.

00:27:24.340 Yeah.

00:27:24.680 So, you know, because, and that's why I actually wrote the book, Living Life Before Words, is because I want to share this with everyone because they have it.

00:27:37.400 They know this anyway.

00:27:38.580 Yeah.

00:27:38.900 And how do we take words out of stuff and make stuff better?

00:27:44.720 Well, the first thing you got to recognize is that you're living two lives at the same time.

00:27:48.960 And what are those two lives?

00:27:50.540 A spiritual life, which is our animal life.

00:27:52.600 It's a life that God gave us.

00:27:54.120 It's perfect.

00:27:55.300 The soul.

00:27:56.000 Yeah.

00:27:56.460 You're perfect.

00:27:57.700 Well, just your instincts, your emotions, they're never supposed to be used with words.

00:28:03.620 We're animals.

00:28:04.720 It's a perfect language. 0.82

00:28:05.760 That's God's language.

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00:29:11.600 God gave us God's language.

00:29:14.940 Right.

00:29:15.620 And every animal has it.

00:29:17.200 The thing about us, if we want to see who we are, just look at animals.

00:29:21.460 They don't use words, but we do.

00:29:23.860 That's the only difference.

00:29:25.640 And so the first thing is to understand that we really are our own unique animal.

00:29:31.820 Yeah.

00:29:32.400 And animal species.

00:29:34.700 And we're perfect.

00:29:36.400 God creates perfection.

00:29:37.820 Yeah.

00:29:37.980 Everything God creates is perfect.

00:29:39.600 So God created us this way.

00:29:41.600 Then, and we've been this way for two to six million years roaming around Earth.

00:29:46.840 But then about 10,000 years ago, human civilization.

00:29:51.140 See, we weren't human until about 10,000 years ago when the word was created human and we put it on top of our animalness.

00:29:59.240 We're not human.

00:30:00.240 We're animals first and humans second.

00:30:02.760 We're animals human, not human animals.

00:30:05.400 You know, that's a word.

00:30:07.480 You mean we're just a certain kind of animal.

00:30:10.240 We were our own unique animal species.

00:30:12.780 Yeah, right.

00:30:12.980 Period.

00:30:13.460 Yeah, I believe that.

00:30:14.500 Yeah.

00:30:14.720 You know, that's perfect.

00:30:16.500 We're perfect.

00:30:16.860 That is the truth.

00:30:17.640 Yeah.

00:30:18.040 And what makes us imperfect is we're living life.

00:30:23.600 We're going to always live our animal life.

00:30:25.420 In other words, you always get your emotions.

00:30:27.420 You always feel your emotions.

00:30:28.380 You always feel your instincts.

00:30:29.200 You always react to those things.

00:30:30.480 But instead of reacting naturally without the words, now you're acting and then words tell you what you're feeling.

00:30:38.040 You already know what you're feeling.

00:30:39.820 It's happened already.

00:30:41.500 So the words is a secondary language.

00:30:44.120 Yeah.

00:30:44.340 See, our primary language is the language God gave us.

00:30:46.940 Yeah.

00:30:47.100 A secondary language is what we created as humans.

00:30:50.940 Yeah.

00:30:51.180 And those words can never represent at all what God's language tells us as an animal.

00:31:00.160 And that's why it gets confusing.

00:31:01.260 So we're actually having this conflict all the time with our feelings and then words.

00:31:05.800 And then we're thinking with words.

00:31:08.180 And we're never supposed to think with words by God.

00:31:11.360 It's like Jesse Lee Peterson always talks about.

00:31:13.740 Thoughts are not yours.

00:31:14.600 I mean, yeah, a lot.

00:31:18.180 In fact, most meditators, I say, go along with that.

00:31:22.180 Of course.

00:31:22.560 And we all know.

00:31:23.540 I mean, we all know that.

00:31:26.220 I just, you know, we all know what we know.

00:31:29.420 And everybody knows that they know.

00:31:30.960 But sometimes, maybe because you're trained or something, well, you do need to read the words.

00:31:39.420 Because words do rearrange your emotions.

00:31:42.880 Read the words for what?

00:31:43.900 Well, to understand what the heck you're doing.

00:31:46.840 What are you doing?

00:31:49.720 Well, when I read your words saying that we have, you know, an internal real soul self.

00:32:01.020 And then we have this fake self over it that's protecting it with words because they don't want anybody to get at it and snuff it out.

00:32:10.520 Well, I know that because I have lived that.

00:32:14.580 Right.

00:32:15.340 And I think everybody in the world has lived that.

00:32:19.220 But they wouldn't have never put it like, hey, I got a fake self surrounding my soul to keep monsters away from it.

00:32:29.280 They wouldn't have put it like, hey, I got a fake self.

00:32:31.280 They wouldn't have put that together without words.

00:32:32.900 I almost were with you.

00:32:36.300 What are you saying now?

00:32:39.900 She's saying words are important.

00:32:41.780 I'm saying sometimes words.

00:32:43.660 Okay.

00:32:43.980 Sometimes naming something is so important.

00:32:48.880 Spell casting.

00:32:49.980 Okay.

00:32:50.480 So this.

00:32:50.800 Okay.

00:32:51.020 Tell me I'm wrong.

00:32:52.140 I'm willing to hear it.

00:32:53.780 No, no, no, no.

00:32:54.320 I just want to clearly understand what you're saying.

00:32:57.100 So words are important, but they're not the most important.

00:33:01.660 In other words, words are a secondary language.

00:33:05.320 Right.

00:33:05.420 And the reason that words.

00:33:06.680 Oh, I get that.

00:33:07.460 Okay.

00:33:07.920 I get that.

00:33:08.840 See, if we know they're a secondary language, then we'll treat them like they're secondary.

00:33:14.200 But what we do is, as humans, word means everything to us.

00:33:19.880 Yeah, we think everything starts with the word.

00:33:21.900 That's my point.

00:33:22.800 Yeah, I get it.

00:33:23.960 Yeah, that's the only language we have.

00:33:26.920 Right.

00:33:27.300 So we put so much value and importance on words.

00:33:30.340 Well, we're brainwashed into doing that.

00:33:32.200 Well, okay, you say brainwashed, but I say we're conditioned from our early.

00:33:37.000 Okay, conditioned.

00:33:37.200 Yeah, that's just the word I would use.

00:33:39.160 We're conditioned from an early age for this new language.

00:33:43.300 It's the human language.

00:33:44.720 See how words change it?

00:33:46.040 You say brainwashed, you say conditioned.

00:33:47.660 That's absolutely right.

00:33:49.120 Yeah.

00:33:49.320 See?

00:33:49.800 Yeah, I can agree with once I get to the thought behind the words, I can always agree.

00:33:56.260 Yes.

00:33:56.700 Once we define our terms and stuff.

00:33:58.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:59.760 Yeah.

00:34:00.020 Yeah, so what happens with words is words, since it's our secondary language and we make

00:34:09.860 it our primary language, it's what makes our life so complicated.

00:34:15.840 Yeah.

00:34:16.360 It's because we put too much emphasis on words.

00:34:21.020 And it's important just to separate the two.

00:34:24.360 That's what I'm saying.

00:34:25.620 Yes, that is important.

00:34:27.020 Yeah, to separate the two and figure out which one is more important.

00:34:30.860 Your life that God gave us, our spiritual language is what God gave us versus a language

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00:36:54.720 And words are very important for the reason words were created is because when we became

00:37:05.920 human 10,000 years ago, the purpose of human civilization is to protect ourselves from our

00:37:13.980 animal selves.

00:37:14.740 So we collectively, as a species, decided to create a civilization so we can be civil inside

00:37:25.100 the civilization.

00:37:27.160 And with the words, we put, that's where words come into play and become very powerful because

00:37:32.920 we create laws, we create regulations, you know.

00:37:36.760 We create social agreements.

00:37:39.060 By the written word.

00:37:40.700 Right.

00:37:40.980 So therefore, in civilization, we want to protect ourselves from, you know, the wild animals.

00:37:50.380 So we have laws and regulations and rules you can't drink till you're 21, you know.

00:37:54.980 That's not how God created animals to live.

00:37:58.880 Animals are free.

00:38:00.280 Society controls us. 0.92

00:38:01.840 That's another reason there's a conflict because we're wild animals still.

00:38:05.960 When I say wild, that doesn't mean negative.

00:38:07.540 That doesn't mean living an honest life as an animal.

00:38:11.900 And so we're in society now, but the words control us.

00:38:17.480 And we really fight against that.

00:38:21.100 You know, that's, you know, it's the two lives that we live.

00:38:24.700 But the lives that we have created with words is a made-up life.

00:38:29.520 God did not create that word, that life.

00:38:31.640 Yes, that's true.

00:38:32.520 And that's why it gets complicated.

00:38:34.560 Yeah.

00:38:35.140 So we really are living in two worlds at once.

00:38:38.440 We absolutely are.

00:38:39.380 Which I always feel that when I, you know, you know, because what I do in my private time,

00:38:48.380 it don't fit in with what I have to do when I'm going around working, in the working world.

00:38:54.340 That's so beautiful.

00:38:55.360 Then that's absolutely right.

00:38:56.540 We're going to live our true, honest life.

00:38:58.840 Like, what's so beautiful is you want to live your honest life.

00:39:04.260 You want to be good.

00:39:05.280 You want to be, follow God in your life.

00:39:07.820 You want to do what you want to do.

00:39:09.280 That's freedom.

00:39:10.000 That's animal.

00:39:11.100 But in society, you have rules.

00:39:13.040 Yeah.

00:39:13.560 That was made by man, not God.

00:39:16.020 Right.

00:39:16.320 And with the control of society, you have a governor, you have a president, you have a prime minister,

00:39:22.000 you have all these different rules to tame our animal self, our honest self.

00:39:29.660 So therefore, words, and they're representing God.

00:39:33.580 They're saying what you can't do, you can't cross the street, you can't jaywalk.

00:39:36.660 As an animal, you know, we're going to run across the street in time.

00:39:39.760 I mean, how many times have we not seen any traffic and we run, you know, because we're animals.

00:39:45.640 You don't see a lion in the jungle talking about, you know, okay, what time, you know, let me, you know.

00:39:51.800 There are rules.

00:39:52.900 There's no rules in the jungle.

00:39:54.440 No, I mean, you can't see the animal going.

00:39:57.380 Well, that's who we are.

00:39:58.720 Yeah.

00:39:59.000 And now we're in society wanting to control us.

00:40:04.040 And that's where the conflict is.

00:40:06.020 And so it's a perfect system by God.

00:40:08.980 But since we created words 10,000 years ago, now we're controlling the situation with societies, you know,

00:40:17.200 instead of being in a free jungle as an animal.

00:40:20.360 And that's where it is because we're going to always be an animal.

00:40:23.080 We're going to always have our instincts and emotions.

00:40:24.880 But with words, we want to, we being, society wants to control how we feel with the words.

00:40:33.000 Words, you know, it all depends on how you use that word because every word carries an energy.

00:40:37.960 Yeah, it does carry an energy.

00:40:38.960 Yeah.

00:40:39.340 So that's how it works.

00:40:41.440 But here's the thing.

00:40:42.680 So if we go back, because that's about anarchy, right?

00:40:45.780 What does that mean?

00:40:46.240 Well, I mean, if there was no government, you know, and then how we would live if there was no government.

00:40:52.040 Because they say, like, everybody would be kind of in their rational self-interest.

00:40:56.860 I love that.

00:40:57.440 That's what I'm talking about.

00:40:58.380 Go ahead.

00:40:58.920 Okay.

00:40:59.600 But the thing about it is it's a choice to live in society.

00:41:02.920 Right.

00:41:03.700 So we can choose to be our animal selves and go off the grid or go and don't have to have no rules with nobody as animals do.

00:41:11.100 But if we choose to live in society, it's because we want the protection.

00:41:17.100 So I'm not saying it's a bad thing to be in society.

00:41:19.280 I'm not saying words are bad.

00:41:20.820 No.

00:41:20.980 I'm not saying anything is not good.

00:41:22.960 No, you're talking about deep analysis of constructs, which is what's needed.

00:41:28.460 Yeah.

00:41:28.820 But the most important thing is we're making a choice to do that.

00:41:32.300 We're choosing to live in society.

00:41:33.820 We're choosing to use the words.

00:41:36.020 My whole thing is I just want to bring clarity.

00:41:39.820 I'm like a presenter.

00:41:40.800 I got these ideas.

00:41:42.060 I'm just presenting them for people to look at.

00:41:44.120 And if they work, take them.

00:41:45.200 They're yours anyway.

00:41:46.440 Everything that I know, you know.

00:41:48.620 And you can find it all if you just take away the words.

00:41:51.920 And it's about being happy.

00:41:53.380 It's about fulfilling your life.

00:41:55.040 It's about living life in line with God.

00:41:57.640 That's what we all want to do.

00:41:59.860 Yeah.

00:42:00.000 And I notice when living life, the purpose for me for living life, for sharing living life

00:42:07.560 in four words is because there's a lot of good people that are confused because they won't

00:42:15.140 do anything.

00:42:16.460 They don't want to do anything opposite of God.

00:42:18.000 They may be tempted and they may go over the line and they may do it and they jump back,

00:42:23.580 you know.

00:42:24.620 And my whole thing is to present the structure of how it all works with God and words and

00:42:32.660 society and things like that to make a choice.

00:42:35.660 But it's for clarity of spirit.

00:42:38.520 Yeah.

00:42:40.160 Okay.

00:42:40.660 How do we get more clarity of spirit?

00:42:42.700 Because we definitely need it.

00:42:44.300 This is so funny.

00:42:45.920 I feel like I'm rambling.

00:42:48.080 No, you're not.

00:42:49.040 No, you're fascinating.

00:42:49.840 You're not rambling.

00:42:50.860 I really do.

00:42:52.000 Why do you feel that way?

00:42:53.200 I just feel like I'm rambling.

00:42:54.780 He doesn't do a lot of podcasts.

00:42:56.120 He doesn't do a lot of podcasts.

00:42:56.380 Oh, by the way, this is my first podcast.

00:42:58.580 Oh, it is?

00:42:59.400 Yeah.

00:43:00.040 Why do you feel like you're rambling?

00:43:01.660 What do you want to do different?

00:43:03.000 Well, because I just want to be clear on the purpose of what living life before words is.

00:43:10.360 Okay.

00:43:10.700 What is it?

00:43:12.000 Basically, in simplicity terms, as I said before, you know, we were created perfectly by God

00:43:19.260 as an animal.

00:43:20.700 And we have everything is perfect.

00:43:23.420 We operate with our spiritual instincts, intuition, emotions, just like God intended it

00:43:29.460 without words, just like all the other animals because we're no different.

00:43:33.000 Than any of the other animals.

00:43:34.260 We like to think we're different because we tell ourselves we're different with words.

00:43:38.040 Forget it.

00:43:38.560 There are no words.

00:43:39.140 We're animals.

00:43:40.560 And because we create a society with words, when we created words, we created a new language

00:43:46.900 for us that God did not create.

00:43:49.020 God did not create any words.

00:43:51.100 And these words have become controlling as if they're God to us.

00:43:56.080 Right.

00:43:56.520 We make words so important and they're not at all.

00:44:00.300 And it's important.

00:44:01.920 Yeah.

00:44:02.160 We live in society.

00:44:03.140 We have to, we choose to live in society.

00:44:06.180 So we, you know, we will, we have to abide by the words.

00:44:12.300 Yeah.

00:44:12.500 But if you notice, words are very controlling.

00:44:16.140 We're free as animals, but in society, we're controlled.

00:44:20.860 And so the choice is that we know that we're going to be controlled.

00:44:24.800 But the reason that we are so confused is because we're putting words on top of our emotions

00:44:30.840 that was never created for words.

00:44:32.860 And that's where it gets very confusing.

00:44:35.900 So living life before words is just, it's a rediscovery of who we are and how God created us.

00:44:41.420 I don't even know if that makes sense.

00:44:43.060 It does make sense because what you're saying is you're, you're saying go back to the absolute basics.

00:44:50.520 Aren't you saying that?

00:44:51.660 I'm saying that.

00:44:52.780 Trust your gut.

00:44:53.380 Go back to the basics of you before you start.

00:44:59.140 Yeah.

00:44:59.580 Right.

00:45:00.020 Is that what you're saying?

00:45:01.540 That is so funny.

00:45:04.660 Because that's like the moment the light turns on when you go back to the basics, you know?

00:45:12.720 Yeah.

00:45:13.200 This is so great because you are my first podcast and I wanted it to be you all the time.

00:45:22.080 Oh, that's cool.

00:45:22.880 You know, because I love your honesty and who you are and you're a warrior and a fighter.

00:45:26.880 Thank you.

00:45:27.640 And so I'm just so happy to be here.

00:45:30.460 And, you know, I practice, you know, like the structure of what I'm going to say and how I'm going to do it.

00:45:35.980 But I'm not really communicating, you know, what I really want.

00:45:41.320 I think you're doing great.

00:45:41.920 I think you're doing great.

00:45:42.640 Well, I think you're doing great.

00:45:42.660 I really want to communicate.

00:45:43.780 Well, so you're letting words get in your way.

00:45:45.880 Is that what you're saying?

00:45:47.480 Hello.

00:45:48.640 Okay.

00:45:49.240 I like that.

00:45:50.540 Okay.

00:45:50.860 Not exactly, but yes, but not exactly.

00:45:53.380 Okay.

00:45:53.820 But pretend I'm two years old.

00:45:55.900 Now, tell me if I'm two years old.

00:45:57.820 Exactly what?

00:45:59.900 Like, okay, I'm three and it's like you and your dad kind of deal.

00:46:04.460 I'm old and, or say I'm young.

00:46:07.620 I'm a child because I do think like a child.

00:46:10.320 I wear diapers and we won't go there.

00:46:12.440 But, uh, just tell me simple when I don't have a lot of words, I just have feelings because I'm a kid.

00:46:21.060 What are you going to tell me?

00:46:22.680 Well, but kids are, well, okay.

00:46:25.500 That's so amazing.

00:46:30.440 Let me, let me think right now, real quick.

00:46:33.460 You do.

00:46:33.980 You got all the time you want.

00:46:35.320 What the point I want to make, how I want to get, get it back on track.

00:46:38.860 I mean, cause to me, I don't think nothing can ever be off track.

00:46:42.720 I don't know if I'm really communicating.

00:46:45.240 You are.

00:46:45.680 Cause this is new.

00:46:46.720 You're doing great.

00:46:47.280 This is new for me.

00:46:48.240 You're doing great.

00:46:49.480 You're showing, you're showing a deep thinker.

00:46:53.720 And, uh.

00:46:55.640 This is how podcasts go.

00:46:57.060 That's what I was trying to tell you.

00:46:57.680 This is how it all goes.

00:46:58.360 It's conversation.

00:46:59.160 You're doing good.

00:46:59.800 Conversation, yeah.

00:47:00.440 Don't self edit.

00:47:01.000 Just keep going.

00:47:01.660 But I want to, I want to go off from here on the words more, but I want you to communicate

00:47:07.200 with me with no words.

00:47:08.680 That's what I'm trying to say.

00:47:10.320 I can't get my words either.

00:47:13.340 We've been communicating with words, uh, with our words all day since I met you.

00:47:17.260 Right.

00:47:17.700 You felt me.

00:47:18.360 I felt you.

00:47:19.280 Yeah.

00:47:19.680 That's our communication, you know, and there's a trust there.

00:47:24.340 There's, we, we like each other.

00:47:25.740 Am I saying that?

00:47:26.660 Did I overstep myself?

00:47:27.660 No, you didn't overstep yourself.

00:47:28.940 No, I like.

00:47:29.600 Because we had like, boing, oing, oing, oing.

00:47:32.220 Yeah.

00:47:32.660 We saw, we saw, uh, whatever you call it, a mate, a soul.

00:47:40.800 We connected for sure.

00:47:42.220 You know, as somebody who's, you know, has seen something you've seen in their eyes.

00:47:47.400 Yes, yes, yes.

00:47:47.900 You know how the eyes are the window to the soul?

00:47:49.680 Yes, yes, yes.

00:47:50.540 So I, I always go in there because you can see, oh, there's a lot of boxes in the way

00:47:55.900 there.

00:47:56.580 Right.

00:47:57.420 I'm going down this hallway and there's a lot of boxes I got to move, but I see there's

00:48:01.540 light there.

00:48:02.940 That.

00:48:03.440 Can I ask you a question?

00:48:04.300 Yes.

00:48:04.820 So you're talking about clarity, which I'm getting, you're coming through perfectly clear

00:48:08.360 about the conflict of being a human and an animal.

00:48:11.420 Yeah.

00:48:11.560 I think she wants to know, and correct me if I'm wrong, is where do we go from there?

00:48:16.020 Because if we know we're conflicted, if words don't express emotions, how do we still

00:48:19.540 relate, what is your opinion and suggestion moving forward?

00:48:23.340 I think is what you're asking, right?

00:48:24.600 That's very good.

00:48:25.320 Well, that's kind of, because my feeling has been in the last couple of weeks that, and

00:48:30.900 I said it on a podcast I was on, because it's hard for me on podcasts too, because you may

00:48:35.840 find this as you go along doing your podcast deal.

00:48:39.400 It doesn't seem like they are talking human being.

00:48:44.120 They're not talking like human language or something.

00:48:48.360 Who's not talking?

00:48:49.540 The other people.

00:48:50.900 On the podcast, you say?

00:48:51.760 On the podcast with me.

00:48:53.360 Oh, really?

00:48:53.980 Yeah, because I always feel like an alien, because I have to talk their language, and

00:48:58.700 it's just effed up. 0.99

00:49:00.820 It's got a lot of assumptions and just frigging crazy shit in it, you know, so I have to hone 0.99

00:49:07.240 through that. 0.99

00:49:08.700 You know what I mean.

00:49:09.820 Yeah.

00:49:10.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:10.720 But anyway, you can hone through it.

00:49:13.580 But then I was saying on this one, I just feel like the power of perceiving, walking on

00:49:23.520 the street and seeing somebody walking the other way and their smile, what I am perceiving

00:49:30.480 in that person's smile is way deeper than anything I ever perceived in a smile before.

00:49:39.120 And I'm knowing that I'm smiling back at them.

00:49:42.980 And the way their eyes are taking it in, they're perceiving something way deeper than they've

00:49:51.720 ever perceived before either.

00:49:53.340 In just that exchange, something very, something is happening.

00:50:02.560 Mom, we always tell people every week, we're going to keep doing it because we're helping

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00:50:22.100 And there is no better way than putting your money in precious metals.

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00:50:26.540 I mean, I think that's the best thing we could say is that we are doing it ourselves, right?

00:50:32.280 We are doing it.

00:50:32.980 We've done it for a long, long time.

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00:50:41.800 Obviously, gold is the big money stuff if you can do it.

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00:50:50.420 Silver, you know, that's for sure always going to be valuable.

00:50:56.440 Well, gold too.

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00:51:02.680 solar panels, for instance, electric cars.

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00:51:17.900 I think that I think the aliens love gold or something.

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00:51:27.800 We, you know, that's what they say.

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00:52:25.520 around.

00:52:27.160 And it's energy, right?

00:52:28.100 There's no words.

00:52:29.540 Right.

00:52:30.400 That's because-

00:52:31.280 Perception.

00:52:32.060 Yeah, but it's also spiritual feeling.

00:52:34.440 It's a feeling.

00:52:35.840 To me, God's language is a feeling.

00:52:38.060 It's your emotions.

00:52:39.240 It's your instinct.

00:52:40.900 So you feel it.

00:52:42.180 It's a feeling.

00:52:43.380 So what you're saying, Jake, is where do we go?

00:52:46.780 So I want to kind of just-

00:52:48.760 Well, how do you relate?

00:52:49.760 I mean, words are for relating.

00:52:50.940 If it's conflicting to use words, how do we relate without words?

00:52:55.060 Because the most important thing is to understand the structure of God because if you look at

00:52:59.420 other animals, which we are, it's easy to see.

00:53:02.360 See, words are just like tools.

00:53:06.600 You build your emotions with words.

00:53:08.380 So they're not specific to anything.

00:53:11.180 So you can build your emotions.

00:53:13.700 And in order for us to, in my opinion, to understand who we are, thinking is a big thing for us.

00:53:24.620 I mean, thinking negative thoughts and all these kinds of things and how we accept those things.

00:53:30.620 Now, without words, animals think without words.

00:53:34.120 Right.

00:53:34.520 Right?

00:53:35.020 Do animals think without words?

00:53:36.560 Yeah.

00:53:36.820 Whereas an animal, we also think without words.

00:53:39.600 Yeah, we do.

00:53:40.340 And God created an incredible mechanism for thinking that had nothing to do with words.

00:53:46.000 This mechanism for thinking, I call it lateral thought.

00:53:49.180 It goes lateral and it's strictly for your protection and survival.

00:53:54.720 This is where negative thoughts come from.

00:53:56.940 This is the mechanism of, in every animal, all animals, negative thoughts.

00:54:02.120 So as an animal, you don't use words.

00:54:04.600 So let's say if a deer is being threatened, eating food and a boy shakes and they start going lateral,

00:54:13.940 they only go to like, if it goes from zero to 12, they only go to like three.

00:54:17.640 Right.

00:54:17.820 And then they make a decision to get out of there.

00:54:20.340 Yeah.

00:54:20.740 So there's no words.

00:54:22.440 Right.

00:54:22.600 So that's what this mechanism is for.

00:54:24.500 It was never created for words.

00:54:26.440 Okay.

00:54:27.080 I understand.

00:54:27.560 But what we do since we created words 10,000 years ago, we put words on this negative system

00:54:33.220 that's perfect.

00:54:34.120 It runs to the nth degree.

00:54:35.460 It keeps running.

00:54:36.320 Right. 1.00

00:54:36.780 So if we've seen something in the bush, we'll say, oh shit, what's up? 0.99

00:54:41.560 What is that? 0.99

00:54:42.360 Oh my God.

00:54:43.600 Oh, could it be this?

00:54:44.720 Could it be that?

00:54:45.420 Oh my, oh, it's going to eat me.

00:54:48.020 Oh, it's going to, words, words, words.

00:54:50.060 See, words was never designed for this as an animal.

00:54:53.180 And that's, that's the damage of, that's not the damage, but it's not recognizing that that's

00:55:00.220 what words do, that God did not create.

00:55:02.640 God did not create the words.

00:55:04.060 Right.

00:55:04.220 So you're really doing that to yourself.

00:55:05.860 And then you look at the bush and then a rabbit runs out.

00:55:08.500 So you did all this thinking for nothing, you know, but that happens all the time.

00:55:13.540 I mean.

00:55:13.820 Do you think it's like to hijack our focus?

00:55:16.740 No, I think the words run, words are abusing this natural process of thought.

00:55:23.140 All animals think.

00:55:24.360 Yeah.

00:55:24.520 But once we start doing that, we're, we're missing the big warning, right?

00:55:28.560 That's what you're saying, right?

00:55:29.720 I'm saying that.

00:55:30.320 We're missing out, like going, should I get out of here?

00:55:33.580 That thing might eat me. 1.00

00:55:35.120 Should I get out of here or stay?

00:55:36.680 That's very true.

00:55:37.780 But instead we're going, well, the mechanics of his legs are such that you're staying there.

00:55:44.020 You're staying there and running lateral with a negative thought.

00:55:49.300 Right.

00:55:49.540 And, and the point, what an animal will do is they acknowledge the threat and then they deal.

00:55:57.660 Yeah.

00:55:58.120 But what we do is acknowledge the threat and we keep talking to ourselves over and over and over and over again in words, which brings in negative energy.

00:56:07.080 And that's not what the process was for.

00:56:10.200 You know, you know how.

00:56:11.260 I get what you're saying.

00:56:12.440 I get it.

00:56:13.020 Yeah.

00:56:13.280 So that's important to understand the word language, you know.

00:56:17.800 And, um, but the word language is very tricky too, because like I said, as an animal, we have emotions and we have instincts.

00:56:27.300 Let's say that we got an instinct.

00:56:30.220 This is, I think might be interesting, but when we get an instinct, our instinct is strictly for our survival.

00:56:36.800 Whenever you get that feeling, we all know what that feeling is, right?

00:56:40.120 We have an understanding.

00:56:41.800 Yes.

00:56:42.280 Because, see, we, that's, we know what that is.

00:56:44.980 Right.

00:56:45.160 We know what that feeling is.

00:56:46.620 So that instinct is really for our protection.

00:56:50.600 That's all it's for.

00:56:51.460 It's a warning.

00:56:52.680 But when we get an instinct, we've been taught as a kid, as soon as you get the instinct, oh, you're scared or you're nervous.

00:56:57.620 Uh-huh.

00:56:58.760 There's no animal on planet Earth that's nervous, scared, or frightened, or worried.

00:57:03.000 Angry.

00:57:03.460 Or, none of that.

00:57:04.840 Yeah.

00:57:05.520 That's something that we created with words.

00:57:08.200 So to protect ourselves, in order to protect ourselves, and it's from our generations from past to, you know, that's how we teach our kids.

00:57:16.340 We probably taught, I'm sure I taught my kids that, you know, that's what we learned to do.

00:57:20.060 Oh, you're scared or you look worried or you look frightened.

00:57:22.460 Right.

00:57:22.740 And so whenever they get that instinct, that's what we get because we, with words, we put words on top of our, a beautiful mechanism that God gave us for our protection.

00:57:35.120 Well, what should we have said to our kids then?

00:57:37.020 Like, are you feeling, what should we have said instead?

00:57:41.360 You don't, you don't have to say anything because what's this warning for?

00:57:45.540 Protection.

00:57:45.800 As an animal, this warning is, so we look at these things as negative, right?

00:57:50.880 Like, scared, so that's a negative energy that we're attached to that word and that natural, beautiful emotion that God gave us.

00:57:58.220 Right.

00:57:58.520 What is it for as an animal?

00:58:00.380 And this is all it's for.

00:58:02.060 It's God tapping you on the shoulder saying, beware.

00:58:04.560 Mm-hmm.

00:58:05.160 It's a positive.

00:58:06.040 It's not negative at all.

00:58:07.260 It's not negative, right?

00:58:08.180 It's not negative at all.

00:58:09.540 When you get that instinct, it says, oh, don't go over, don't touch the stove.

00:58:12.440 Yeah.

00:58:12.620 Oh, there's something in the bush.

00:58:14.060 Oh, you know.

00:58:15.100 Yeah.

00:58:15.280 So if an animal get that instinct, they never look at it negatively, like it's a word.

00:58:19.680 They look at it, if I'm an animal and there's a lion over there and I feel it, I said, okay, well, you better get ready to run.

00:58:27.520 Yeah.

00:58:28.100 Right.

00:58:28.660 How positive is that?

00:58:30.160 Positive.

00:58:30.600 It's completely positive.

00:58:32.060 Yeah.

00:58:32.440 That's all it is.

00:58:34.040 Okay.

00:58:34.380 That instinct right there, that's all it's for.

00:58:38.620 It's not to be scared or worried or anything like that.

00:58:43.200 So when you get scared and worried, guess what happens?

00:58:45.040 You go lateral. 1.00

00:58:45.960 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:58:46.560 Oh, you're scared. 1.00

00:58:47.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:47.680 That's true.

00:58:48.240 See, it had nothing to do, first it had nothing to do with God.

00:58:52.040 Right.

00:58:52.900 It has everything to do with our human society that we created.

00:58:55.820 God did not create words.

00:58:57.660 And we put words that we created on top of our beautiful system that God, so it's a positive.

00:59:04.560 And it's so interesting because I live this way.

00:59:07.720 You know, I'll get an instinct and it's beautiful because I know what I'm going to have to do.

00:59:13.500 I'm either going to have to do something or not.

00:59:14.960 You know, if it's a warning, it's a warning.

00:59:18.460 This guy said, hey, what you going to do?

00:59:20.020 Watch it over there.

00:59:22.040 Oh, you know, if it's something you got to, if it's a bill that comes in or something, then you get that, pay it.

00:59:28.140 You know what I mean?

00:59:28.860 Take care of it.

00:59:29.660 You know, there's no, people, if they say something, if you get an envelope and it says urgent on it, you get this feeling and then you say, oh, God, what am I going to be?

00:59:38.660 What is this could be?

00:59:39.660 Oh, they're going to, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:59:41.240 And then you read it and it's not nothing like that.

00:59:45.100 So what I'm saying to you, the thing to understand is that we live these two lines.

00:59:50.560 God is perfect.

00:59:51.600 And then with words, we mislabeled this beautiful system with words.

00:59:57.760 There's negative words and there's positive words.

01:00:00.040 On the same token, you can feel wonderful with wonderful words.

01:00:03.860 So it's not the words.

01:00:04.820 It's how you use the words.

01:00:06.300 And you can use words to spell, I always call it spellcasting, but you can actually manifest things in your life and relate to other people with words.

01:00:14.220 Words have tremendous power if you use them properly, right?

01:00:18.100 Right, right, right, right.

01:00:18.960 There is a tool, right?

01:00:20.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:21.640 I always talk about the right words with the right people at the right time.

01:00:25.400 Yeah, the right everything.

01:00:27.300 It can't be defeated.

01:00:28.860 Yeah, but I like what you're saying where if you're using words in this lateral sense, like kind of like, uh, it's not, it's not the correct.

01:00:36.300 It's not the correct use of words is what you're saying when you do that.

01:00:38.300 Of the mechanism.

01:00:39.080 When you're projecting this stuff.

01:00:40.220 Yeah, you're tripping it.

01:00:41.520 Yes.

01:00:41.800 Yes, not the mechanism is perfect, but you're putting something on top of it.

01:00:46.740 And I think it's fascinating.

01:00:47.680 And then also, let's think negative thoughts, which is a major thing.

01:00:51.180 A lot of people think negative thoughts.

01:00:52.800 I mean, I guess.

01:00:53.380 Because they're addicted to it.

01:00:54.260 Every day.

01:00:55.300 Well, they don't know that there's an alternative, number one.

01:00:59.000 Well, yeah, they don't.

01:01:00.100 Yeah, that's true.

01:01:00.220 Well, that's why I actually wrote the book, because I put it, you know, you read it or you did.

01:01:04.980 I don't know if you read that part.

01:01:05.700 But anyway, the negative thoughts is a big deal.

01:01:08.200 It's because that's not natural to think negatively with words.

01:01:14.060 It's just not natural.

01:01:15.980 Because there are no words as an animal.

01:01:18.300 But there are words as a human that we created when we created words.

01:01:22.700 I mean, people think negative thoughts multiple times a day.

01:01:26.160 Just run negative, negative, negative.

01:01:28.000 I mean, we all do.

01:01:29.340 And when you think negative thoughts with words, because you can't think a negative thought without a word.

01:01:33.740 You have to use words to think negative thoughts.

01:01:35.480 So that's what it is.

01:01:35.960 That's true.

01:01:36.400 Yeah.

01:01:36.680 So if you take away the words, you will never think or have a negative thought.

01:01:40.220 Oh, that's good.

01:01:41.300 Yeah, you'll never have a negative thought.

01:01:42.500 Because I feel like people are bombarded with negative thoughts that don't even originate with them.

01:01:49.000 Perfect.

01:01:49.500 That's what I'm saying.

01:01:50.680 And it happens multiple times a day.

01:01:52.380 And every time you have negative thoughts, you bring in negative energy into your body.

01:01:56.520 The idea is that you don't want negative energy that brings stress.

01:02:00.260 And you control it.

01:02:01.780 But it's the words.

01:02:02.680 And this is the thing about negative thoughts.

01:02:04.020 I'm going to ask you both a question.

01:02:05.820 Okay.

01:02:06.100 Then you're going to have to tell us how we can divest ourselves of words.

01:02:10.920 I guess.

01:02:11.660 I'm going to tell you.

01:02:11.960 Okay.

01:02:12.480 All right.

01:02:12.780 The thing about this, it's very simple, really, because it's no words.

01:02:19.240 But it gets complicated because of the words that we created.

01:02:23.780 And my purpose is to let you say you have this all.

01:02:27.200 This is who you really are.

01:02:29.140 Everyone that's ever seen this podcast, read the book, whatever, this is who we are.

01:02:33.220 Everyone that's ever been born as an animal first. 0.90

01:02:36.320 Right.

01:02:36.460 And then we become human with words.

01:02:40.700 That's the thing.

01:02:41.940 So this is what I want to ask.

01:02:46.660 How many times, well, do you have negative thoughts?

01:02:52.700 Me?

01:02:53.100 Yeah.

01:02:53.540 That's it.

01:02:55.360 That's funny.

01:02:56.480 No?

01:02:56.920 Do you not have negative thoughts is a better question.

01:02:58.980 Sometimes I have a positive thought.

01:03:02.120 So the point I'm saying is we have multiple negative thoughts.

01:03:06.480 How many times in your life have you thought, to the nth degree means when you think of a

01:03:10.740 negative thought, you conclude that you know what it is.

01:03:14.720 Yes.

01:03:14.900 I mean, in your heart, you know that this is what it is.

01:03:18.560 Yeah.

01:03:18.680 Right?

01:03:19.060 Am I right?

01:03:19.640 Yeah.

01:03:19.860 No, you're right.

01:03:20.280 Yeah.

01:03:20.440 That's what everyone does.

01:03:21.520 You draw the whole story off.

01:03:22.620 I know I'm getting bombarded because I'm trying to focus on something better.

01:03:26.800 And so it bombards me to come back.

01:03:29.340 That's how I look at it.

01:03:30.400 But negative thoughts?

01:03:31.360 Mm-hmm.

01:03:31.900 What I'm saying, when we do negative thoughts, we always have a conclusion like, this is going

01:03:36.480 to happen.

01:03:36.820 I know this.

01:03:37.300 You know, all that kind of real to the nth degree.

01:03:39.220 Yeah.

01:03:39.460 You write the whole story.

01:03:40.400 You have it locked down.

01:03:41.980 You know everything you're thinking is going to happen, correct?

01:03:44.480 No.

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01:06:13.120 That is so rude.

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01:06:21.780 That's true. 1.00

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01:06:22.840 You don't think that that way?

01:06:27.100 Uh-uh.

01:06:27.620 It can't get at me at all because I'm protected.

01:06:30.440 Oh, tell me about that.

01:06:32.180 Oh.

01:06:33.280 Huh?

01:06:33.840 Yeah.

01:06:34.520 No, it can't get at me.

01:06:36.460 Negative thoughts?

01:06:37.260 No, nothing negative can get at me.

01:06:39.440 You don't think negative thoughts?

01:06:40.800 No, I do not.

01:06:42.000 Okay.

01:06:42.520 I get bombarded with them.

01:06:44.040 Oh, I see.

01:06:44.740 But they're not of me because I don't have them because I'm connected to God.

01:06:48.800 So I'm nothing negative.

01:06:50.120 Oh, okay.

01:06:50.920 Okay.

01:06:51.500 Okay.

01:06:51.780 But when I get around, people who ain't like that, they shoot with a lot of negative at me.

01:06:57.080 But I got like my Wonder Woman things, you know, it doesn't penetrate at all because I'm protected.

01:07:05.780 And I know that.

01:07:07.240 And so-

01:07:08.220 That's interesting because-

01:07:09.200 They can say all they do and they can be all they are, even if they're like whatever they call them, ghosts or what have you.

01:07:18.380 Right, right, right.

01:07:19.100 They don't get in here.

01:07:20.500 This is God's, you don't get, sorry.

01:07:23.820 I don't listen to you.

01:07:25.620 You're not coming in here.

01:07:27.560 Bye-bye.

01:07:28.700 They're nothing to do with me.

01:07:30.600 Okay.

01:07:30.900 But, okay.

01:07:31.900 I'm just talking about thinking negatively.

01:07:34.180 Nope.

01:07:34.660 I don't do that.

01:07:35.600 Okay.

01:07:36.000 Well, Jake. 1.00

01:07:37.120 All the fucking time. 1.00

01:07:39.100 All the fucking time. 1.00

01:07:39.380 Okay. 1.00

01:07:39.440 Let me talk to Jake.

01:07:40.500 Okay.

01:07:41.020 Of course.

01:07:41.420 That's wonderful because that's interesting.

01:07:43.940 No, I think negative thoughts.

01:07:45.240 No, no, it really is.

01:07:46.760 I paint the whole conclusion, the whole story.

01:07:49.240 To the nth degree.

01:07:50.200 Everyone does this.

01:07:50.980 Okay.

01:07:51.600 Everyone does it except for Roseanne.

01:07:53.320 I don't do it.

01:07:53.580 Apparently, she's clear and changed.

01:07:55.040 This is great.

01:07:55.960 But you know what I'm saying, right?

01:07:57.160 Yes, 100%.

01:07:57.880 And let me ask you a question.

01:08:01.740 You go to the nth degree of negativity.

01:08:03.520 Uh-huh.

01:08:03.880 Has anything ever happened exactly like you thought?

01:08:06.600 No, of course not.

01:08:07.200 I tell him that.

01:08:07.940 Okay, wait a minute.

01:08:08.660 It never happens like this word.

01:08:09.480 This is so significant.

01:08:11.040 Yeah.

01:08:11.820 But you're using words and your pain is going lateral.

01:08:14.840 Mm-hmm.

01:08:15.200 And you always come to a conclusion.

01:08:17.000 You know why?

01:08:17.480 You come to the conclusion like, oh, I know this.

01:08:20.720 Oh, I know this is going to happen.

01:08:22.200 This is it.

01:08:22.960 Yeah.

01:08:23.140 Oh, it's happening now.

01:08:24.420 You know.

01:08:24.560 Right.

01:08:24.920 He does.

01:08:25.600 You know why?

01:08:26.200 Now, let's take it to the animal side.

01:08:27.880 Mm-hmm.

01:08:28.360 Because an animal must draw conclusions really fast.

01:08:32.180 Right.

01:08:32.820 Without words.

01:08:33.960 So remember, the lateral barometer goes from zero to 12.

01:08:36.940 12 represents the nth degree.

01:08:38.460 It keeps going, going, going, going.

01:08:40.380 An animal thought process.

01:08:43.020 This is the thought process that we have, that God gave the honor of them, that we have,

01:08:46.500 that we put words on top of.

01:08:47.860 Mm-hmm.

01:08:48.680 The animal without words will get a thought, you know, a negative, we call it a negative

01:08:54.380 thought, but a protective thought.

01:08:55.760 Right.

01:08:55.880 That's what it is.

01:08:56.620 And it won't go past three.

01:08:59.800 Right.

01:09:00.200 Because an animal must be decisive and have a conclusion.

01:09:03.500 Mm-hmm.

01:09:03.900 I better get out of here.

01:09:04.740 Quick.

01:09:05.320 You know, like if you, a fly, a fly sees a hand coming down, and then that fly, before

01:09:10.920 you get that fly's gone, because it went to zero to three and got off, said, I'm in danger,

01:09:14.560 shoots off.

01:09:15.180 Right.

01:09:15.300 So you have to have a conclusion.

01:09:16.820 Yes.

01:09:17.020 Right.

01:09:17.300 You know, and that's where a lizard, you're going to chase a lizard, you're going to catch

01:09:21.200 a lizard, you're creeping up on a lizard, and you're about to catch it, because a lizard

01:09:25.380 had to have a conclusion.

01:09:26.580 So in this mechanism, you conclude.

01:09:30.040 So that's why when you have negative thoughts-

01:09:32.320 That is true.

01:09:33.100 You come to a conclusion by God, because God creates perfection.

01:09:37.720 The system that God gave us as an animal is perfect, and it's being, I'm going to say

01:09:42.360 misused, mislabeled with words that God did not create.

01:09:46.300 Humans created the words.

01:09:47.820 Yeah.

01:09:47.960 And I'm not saying they did it for the affairs, it's part of our evolution.

01:09:52.380 We evolved to using a secondary language that God didn't create.

01:09:55.900 Right.

01:09:56.540 And that's what we did, and that's what we are.

01:09:59.820 Right.

01:10:00.080 So we really are two people.

01:10:01.800 We're animals, and we're also human.

01:10:04.100 Yeah.

01:10:04.260 And so that's where words, but because God created such a perfect system and mechanism,

01:10:10.200 we're mislabeling what God gave us with words.

01:10:13.720 So negative thinking is such a major thing.

01:10:16.520 Yeah.

01:10:16.700 Because I know, because I used to do it.

01:10:19.280 Yeah.

01:10:19.500 I don't go past three, maybe four, because I know it ain't going to happen.

01:10:25.140 What you just told me, I said, and this is through your whole life, you have these negative

01:10:29.700 thoughts that you know is going to happen, you know this is right, and they've never

01:10:33.020 happened.

01:10:33.380 Did you just tell me that?

01:10:34.400 Yeah.

01:10:34.920 They never happen.

01:10:35.540 They never happen with anybody.

01:10:37.060 No.

01:10:37.940 Because your mind is perfect.

01:10:39.420 You're going to pick the perfect scenario that you don't want to happen.

01:10:44.220 And then when it doesn't happen, what do we do?

01:10:46.420 We fool ourselves.

01:10:47.600 We say, oh, I'm glad that didn't happen. 1.00

01:10:51.200 Shit, boy, I escaped. 1.00

01:10:52.960 You didn't, because you collected all this negative energy in your body as if it did happen. 0.99

01:10:57.980 See, we're not supposed to collect that negative energy, because that negative energy is not

01:11:02.280 of God.

01:11:02.540 That's why, you know, you have headaches and you feel depressed and all this stuff.

01:11:06.820 It's because you're collecting all this negative energy in that you're in control of.

01:11:11.900 Yeah.

01:11:12.140 And it's just about understanding that we have these two lives that we live.

01:11:16.300 And one God gave us perfectly, and one we created ourselves.

01:11:20.820 You're talking a lot about, sorry to interrupt, non-attachment.

01:11:23.940 Say that again. 0.71

01:11:24.520 Buddhists call this non-attachment. 0.99

01:11:26.040 When your thought comes in, you don't attach to the thought.

01:11:28.640 Similar to what she was talking about, the compartmentalizing.

01:11:32.140 Yeah.

01:11:32.420 Once you attach, this is what I got from you today.

01:11:34.820 Once you attach, you have this system in your mind that's created that becomes linear thought

01:11:39.480 and problem-solving because you've attached.

01:11:41.640 It's almost like a treadmill, like when your dad was working at Ford, and you're like,

01:11:44.760 oh, there's a thought, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:46.100 You're doing that in natural instinct because you've attached to the thought, whereas if

01:11:49.520 you just let it pass, just go to three, you can respond more as your instincts and

01:11:53.480 as an animal, and you don't get caught off in the storytelling, right?

01:11:56.700 Is that what you're saying?

01:11:57.100 You're not running around like a chick with no head, right?

01:11:59.460 It's beautiful.

01:12:00.480 That's what the Buddhists call non-attachment.

01:12:02.420 You're not using up all the drama and all the enzymes in your whole body, creating drama

01:12:09.560 and horror everywhere you go.

01:12:11.640 You're just actually living simple and close to God.

01:12:15.820 You're living what I thought.

01:12:17.700 Right.

01:12:17.920 You're just living how God created us.

01:12:20.420 You know, when we were a kid, we didn't think about nothing, and we just played.

01:12:24.020 Weren't we happy?

01:12:24.940 Yeah.

01:12:25.200 We didn't have all these thoughts.

01:12:26.400 Yeah.

01:12:26.720 But that's how we're supposed to always live.

01:12:28.520 There's your answer.

01:12:29.220 That's just what it is.

01:12:30.860 Yeah.

01:12:31.000 That's what God created us, you know, how God created us.

01:12:34.680 So, well, what you're saying is very interesting because this is how the mind works and how

01:12:40.300 it all works.

01:12:41.040 Right.

01:12:41.420 When I say all of it, I'm talking about us and animals.

01:12:44.300 We're animals.

01:12:45.200 Right.

01:12:45.400 I can look at animals and see us.

01:12:47.260 I can see us and see animals.

01:12:49.080 That's just how it is.

01:12:49.980 Yeah, me too.

01:12:50.340 We're animals.

01:12:51.320 Yeah.

01:12:51.660 So, the way the mind works, because you saw, I didn't know about the Buddhist thing.

01:12:55.440 Non-attachment, yeah.

01:12:56.120 But I get that.

01:12:56.800 That's basically what you're saying.

01:12:57.740 But that's what it is.

01:12:58.640 Yes.

01:12:58.860 Because the very first thing, the very first thing in thought is identification.

01:13:03.700 Right.

01:13:04.160 Yep, yep, yep.

01:13:05.120 Right.

01:13:05.540 And that's where I was asking you earlier, you just told me about something about vision

01:13:09.900 and then words.

01:13:10.900 Remember you was going to send me the book?

01:13:11.960 Yeah, I'm going to send you that book.

01:13:13.060 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:13.580 But that's why I was interested because, you know, I can see the systems.

01:13:17.420 I kind of, I know it.

01:13:19.080 You all know it.

01:13:19.940 If you get before words, you can see all this stuff real clearly.

01:13:22.880 So, what happens is the way the mind works is the first thing the mind does is identify.

01:13:29.060 And that's that vision that you were saying.

01:13:31.340 You identify.

01:13:33.180 And then, you know, then your emotions and instincts kick in and they assess what you saw.

01:13:39.160 Right.

01:13:39.480 So, it moves, you know.

01:13:41.600 And then that's where we do with words is we keep it running.

01:13:46.540 So, then after you identify, then you make a decision what you're going to do.

01:13:51.000 You're going to run, you're going to stay.

01:13:52.200 That's what an animal do.

01:13:53.540 You know, they identify.

01:13:55.280 So, a deer is eaten and identify.

01:13:59.240 You'll see all that.

01:14:00.260 Dogs hear something, they're identifying.

01:14:03.120 Right.

01:14:03.220 That's what we do.

01:14:05.140 And then they assess the situations and see whether they want, what kind of action they

01:14:09.820 want to take.

01:14:10.580 And then they'll decide to take action or not take action.

01:14:13.080 Right.

01:14:13.440 And then, and that's when they go.

01:14:15.620 That's the conclusion.

01:14:16.560 I'm going to run.

01:14:17.320 I'm going to do it.

01:14:18.160 That's how it's supposed to work.

01:14:19.720 Yeah, exactly.

01:14:20.500 I like that.

01:14:20.940 Yeah.

01:14:21.100 Exactly.

01:14:22.000 But what words that God did not create.

01:14:24.140 I keep saying that because we can't, we got to take the value off of words means nothing.

01:14:27.940 Yeah.

01:14:28.200 Words mean nothing.

01:14:29.740 Right.

01:14:30.100 Ever.

01:14:31.200 You know, that's the reason that we're all messed up.

01:14:34.020 Yeah.

01:14:34.180 It's because of words and we make them so important.

01:14:37.220 And we, we, we, we, we, we, we, uh, our emotions, we, we, you know, make our emotions react to

01:14:43.020 words and don't live with words, live with what you feel.

01:14:48.420 That's where it is.

01:14:49.460 That's God.

01:14:50.240 Yeah.

01:14:50.440 And you know what you feel.

01:14:52.780 So anyway, so yeah.

01:14:54.420 So I, I, I, I see that in that Buddhist thing.

01:14:56.940 That's nice to hear because that's a, to me, that's exactly how it is.

01:14:59.940 It's true.

01:15:00.440 Yeah.

01:15:00.660 I don't attach the thoughts.

01:15:01.780 I mean, now when you ask me if I have negative thoughts, of course I do, I'm human.

01:15:04.780 But now when they come in, I go, Oh, that's a thought I don't attach anymore.

01:15:08.680 It passes you.

01:15:09.340 Like they say water off a duck's back, goes on to the next one.

01:15:12.500 And I recognize that mechanism.

01:15:14.680 Now I see it.

01:15:15.740 Thoughts come through storytelling.

01:15:17.080 If you just let it kind of flow through, it doesn't affect you as much.

01:15:21.560 Well, what I do.

01:15:22.740 It's fascinating stuff.

01:15:23.520 Yeah.

01:15:23.680 What I do with thought, I never let it go past two or three. 0.99

01:15:27.800 I absolutely don't give a, I don't give a shit. 1.00

01:15:29.960 Can I say shit on this? 1.00

01:15:31.060 Oh, you can say anything. 1.00

01:15:32.280 Well, fuck then. 1.00

01:15:33.260 I mean, you don't let it go past three. 1.00

01:15:38.600 No, my goal is to not let it go past three.

01:15:42.380 I like that.

01:15:42.800 Sometimes it goes to four or five.

01:15:45.740 But I pull it back because I know four or five doesn't damage me.

01:15:50.820 You know, I just, because, but I never let it go to the nth degree because it'll never happen.

01:15:57.780 Right.

01:15:58.240 You, to me, and I don't want to say this about anybody, but I'll say, I would have to be 0.97

01:16:03.240 stupid to know if I think negative thoughts to the nth degree, it ain't going to happen 0.98

01:16:07.980 and I still do it. 1.00

01:16:09.120 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:10.180 Stupid. 1.00

01:16:10.980 It's a waste of time. 1.00

01:16:11.680 It's kind of stupid, isn't it? 1.00

01:16:12.520 It is really stupid. 1.00

01:16:12.900 And all you got to do. 1.00

01:16:14.860 Yeah, it is stupid. 1.00

01:16:16.060 It takes up your whole life. 1.00

01:16:17.820 But all you got to do is ask yourself, honestly, deal with God, your real truth.

01:16:21.400 Now, this is important.

01:16:22.600 We have two truths.

01:16:23.460 That's a whole nother thing.

01:16:24.380 I got a lot of stuff to share with you.

01:16:25.720 Man, we're just talking about words.

01:16:26.980 Man, it's just so much.

01:16:28.180 Yeah.

01:16:28.300 But your real truth is God.

01:16:30.840 Yes.

01:16:31.540 Well, it's the God that you don't tell anybody about.

01:16:34.220 That's right.

01:16:34.900 And not your kids.

01:16:35.880 That's right.

01:16:36.220 Not your wife. 0.97

01:16:36.920 That's right.

01:16:37.220 Because they'll lock you up.

01:16:38.420 What?

01:16:39.200 No, no.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, they will.

01:16:40.880 No, no, no.

01:16:41.640 They locked me up for it.

01:16:42.920 But let me ask you a question.

01:16:44.580 Yeah, they did lock me up for it.

01:16:46.560 But, okay.

01:16:47.600 Well, I don't know what it is, but all I'm saying is that, you know, your real truth is

01:16:54.400 that's God between you and God.

01:16:56.300 That's right.

01:16:56.840 You know, and then you have this false truth.

01:16:59.240 Now, I think I lost my spot.

01:17:01.480 I'm sorry.

01:17:02.220 No, I get excited.

01:17:03.900 I said you don't tell people about it.

01:17:05.260 It's a personal relationship with God.

01:17:06.580 Say that again. 0.71

01:17:07.460 You said the God inside that you don't tell nobody about.

01:17:10.800 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:11.420 But it was a purpose I said then.

01:17:13.440 I get it.

01:17:13.960 My mind was just going.

01:17:14.980 I got excited.

01:17:16.020 You went to four.

01:17:16.680 So anyway, so where else?

01:17:18.160 He said you went to four.

01:17:19.540 Oh, one to four.

01:17:20.380 That's where we were at.

01:17:22.040 Yeah.

01:17:22.640 So, yeah.

01:17:24.240 So, if you let it run to the nth degree, then it's, you know.

01:17:27.740 So, only thing a person has to do is ask themselves.

01:17:31.360 And that's what I was talking about.

01:17:33.040 I mean, use your God truth and answer.

01:17:35.260 No plan around.

01:17:36.100 You cannot play with God.

01:17:37.680 God is pure.

01:17:38.840 Yeah.

01:17:38.980 You can't, you have to be 200% honest in living life, really.

01:17:45.280 That's what the thing is.

01:17:46.420 You got to be honest anyway.

01:17:48.260 But with God, when you're communicating with God, God knows anyway.

01:17:52.400 Right.

01:17:53.160 Because that's the thing.

01:17:54.760 So, I, so when you, all you have to do to evaluate, this is so important with negative thought because a lot of people, you know, they have to, they want to kind of get a handle on this.

01:18:04.920 Yeah.

01:18:05.080 And all you got to do is ask yourself, honestly, any time in your life, entire life, that you've gone negative to the nth degree, did it ever come true exactly like you thought it was?

01:18:19.540 Because you committed yourself that this is exactly how it's going to happen.

01:18:22.980 Yeah.

01:18:23.080 And if that answer is no, it never has, then, then makes no sense to go there.

01:18:30.600 Right.

01:18:30.960 And I know that.

01:18:32.360 Yes.

01:18:32.640 I never do that.

01:18:34.000 And what I do is, this is what it is, because we're champions.

01:18:38.080 We were born champions.

01:18:39.760 Yeah.

01:18:40.040 And so you got to, I love you so much.

01:18:42.760 I just, I just met Roseanne today personally, but I've loved her so many years and respected her so much because she is a champion and we're all born champions.

01:18:54.820 Every one of us are champions, but people don't live up to that.

01:18:58.240 They don't accept that.

01:18:59.340 And then we never met, but when I saw you throughout the years, I know, you know, I know what's going on.

01:19:05.100 I said, she's a champion. 0.68

01:19:06.640 Yeah.

01:19:06.980 And I love that because you recognize that.

01:19:09.700 And we're all the champions.

01:19:11.660 And so, you know, you, you, you got to do your best.

01:19:14.620 I get carried away.

01:19:15.600 I'm so excited.

01:19:16.840 I get, you know, it's my first podcast.

01:19:20.540 So I'm like floating and thinking.

01:19:22.160 No, you did great.

01:19:23.020 You're doing great.

01:19:24.160 But anyway.

01:19:25.800 You're light turning on the whole room.

01:19:28.020 No, you can feel it around you.

01:19:29.820 You're electric for sure.

01:19:31.500 Oh, well, thank you.

01:19:32.680 Oh, well, thank you.

01:19:33.940 We talked on the phone the other day and I called my mom right after.

01:19:36.680 I was like, I just love this person.

01:19:37.860 I could just tell.

01:19:39.000 I don't know what it is.

01:19:39.800 I could tell just in five or 10 seconds.

01:19:41.740 Oh, thank you.

01:19:42.720 It's just a, it's an energy you give.

01:19:44.740 So don't.

01:19:45.260 It's a God energy.

01:19:46.280 It is.

01:19:47.000 It is.

01:19:47.460 I think it is.

01:19:48.220 It's like when you're not trying to be smarter than God.

01:19:51.020 Yeah.

01:19:51.280 All of a sudden things make some sense.

01:19:53.580 No, it's God.

01:19:54.480 I mean, in my past, nobody could think more negative than me in my past.

01:20:01.580 Yeah.

01:20:02.420 But then I had to change.

01:20:03.780 I might challenge you on that.

01:20:05.200 Oh, okay.

01:20:06.180 You might do too.

01:20:07.800 We all do.

01:20:08.840 Yeah.

01:20:09.700 We just don't tell nobody.

01:20:10.940 Yeah.

01:20:11.720 You see what I mean?

01:20:12.440 Yeah.

01:20:12.640 We don't, listen here.

01:20:13.900 We do some stuff, you know, and we think stuff.

01:20:17.400 We don't tell anybody.

01:20:19.000 That's the real truth.

01:20:20.080 Yeah.

01:20:20.240 But God knows that truth and that's your connection to God.

01:20:22.880 That's what you have and that's what we all have.

01:20:25.940 We all have that.

01:20:27.080 And what we show people is the false truth.

01:20:29.220 It's truth because it's close to God and we can, well, you know, it's not too far over

01:20:33.040 the line, little white line, little stuff.

01:20:35.680 Yeah.

01:20:35.900 You know, that's the mask and that's how we operate.

01:20:39.040 But you see, when people are truthful, they let people into their real truth.

01:20:44.420 Yeah.

01:20:44.580 And that's why I think great comedians, I mean yourself, Richard Pryor, because you're truthful.

01:20:51.400 So you're letting us into that God level, you see, and people connect to that because

01:20:57.280 that takes guts to do that because people don't do that.

01:21:00.920 It takes a lot of pain, you know.

01:21:03.080 It does.

01:21:03.740 I feel like I'm going to be real honest about the fact that I went down that way, you know.

01:21:10.940 But we all did.

01:21:12.260 And the important thing is we came back to talk about it.

01:21:16.720 That's what's so great about comedy.

01:21:18.700 We came back from the lowest place to make fun of it.

01:21:22.340 Because you're a champion.

01:21:23.640 Yeah.

01:21:24.420 You're a champion.

01:21:25.780 Yeah.

01:21:26.040 And you, as a champion, I'm going to say this, I've been cussed, right?

01:21:29.160 Uh-huh. 1.00

01:21:29.440 A champion can't give a fuck. 1.00

01:21:30.920 Yeah, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:21:31.320 If they, if they, you can't. 0.99

01:21:32.920 Right. 0.99

01:21:33.260 You can't give a fuck, especially if you know you're walking with God, you're doing it in 0.99

01:21:38.280 the right spirit. 0.99

01:21:39.120 Who cares what anyone thinks about any of it?

01:21:42.320 Because you can't care.

01:21:43.820 And that makes you strong because you're doing the right thing by God, you know.

01:21:47.680 And you know what the truth is.

01:21:49.440 Yeah.

01:21:49.660 And that's it.

01:21:50.440 But that's, to me, is, you know, a thing.

01:21:53.900 Well, this is some hardcore truth that you put down here, laid out for us in the book,

01:22:04.200 your book, Living Life Before Words.

01:22:07.740 Living Life Before Words.

01:22:08.940 Yeah, where can we get the book?

01:22:10.440 Give it a plug. 0.95

01:22:11.020 Read it.

01:22:11.420 Can I just say, in conclusion on this?

01:22:14.920 Yeah, of course.

01:22:14.940 But I just want to say, you've laid out some beautiful things.

01:22:19.340 And I want you to come back and let's go deeper and deeper.

01:22:22.580 Because I know we didn't even get into the mother stuff.

01:22:25.280 That's what I was going to talk to you about.

01:22:26.720 I want to go to the mother stuff.

01:22:27.280 I want to go to it, too.

01:22:28.900 I do want to say, because to me, I'm with this women. 0.99

01:22:34.460 Crazy, right?

01:22:35.780 The greatest creation of God.

01:22:38.260 And what'd you say? 0.69

01:22:39.020 They're crazy, right? 0.97

01:22:40.280 They're everything. 0.99

01:22:41.120 They're all.

01:22:41.820 I know.

01:22:42.080 So, you know, I think the world has to recognize women because women is God's extension on earth to me.

01:22:50.840 You know, doing God's miracles on earth, what women do, and their importance to all of us.

01:22:57.980 We have to remember one thing.

01:23:00.700 Without women, there would be none of us in the world. 1.00

01:23:04.920 Yeah.

01:23:05.040 That's how important women are. 1.00

01:23:07.800 And women create not only women, but women create men. 0.82

01:23:12.360 So, who's the greatest creation of God?

01:23:15.260 The creator that creates everything.

01:23:17.180 The women and men.

01:23:18.420 Well, of course.

01:23:19.900 Will you bring the mic a little closer?

01:23:21.340 Well, of course, they say, I mean, one of those old sayings is, God couldn't be every place, so he created grandmothers, I think.

01:23:31.520 Or maybe it said mothers.

01:23:33.300 But, you know, I mean, just that urge to protect more than your own self.

01:23:40.380 It is so divine.

01:23:42.180 And, you know, it comes from mothers and fathers, too.

01:23:45.640 But they're really doing all they can to tear down the woman.

01:23:49.640 And I think that's key to them trying to tear down the soul, is tearing down the mother, you know? 0.89

01:23:55.820 Well, you know, I look at it like, I hear exactly what you're saying.

01:24:01.060 You know, we're saying they are this.

01:24:02.740 I don't give, when you're dealing with God, it's God is going to present what God presents.

01:24:08.660 And to me, it's an awareness.

01:24:12.600 Women are the strongest and the most important creation of God. 0.99

01:24:17.660 So, I think that, and I think a lot of women don't really recognize that. 1.00

01:24:23.440 Oh, they do, but they're afraid to.

01:24:25.460 They're afraid to what?

01:24:26.200 They're afraid to take the responsibility that that will make them take.

01:24:30.320 To go, oh my, it's, I am responsible for this much and I have to do it.

01:24:38.680 That's a big bite.

01:24:40.080 What responsibility do you think that they're going to have?

01:24:42.340 Well, women, if they would own up to what they're capable of, well, they would know that 1.00

01:24:48.220 they got to fix the whole world and quick.

01:24:52.060 Interesting.

01:24:52.480 And that they're capable of doing so.

01:24:55.000 Okay.

01:24:55.320 You're talking about them in the sense of taking on a role to clean up the mess of what's going on?

01:25:03.860 Yeah, to take care of all the kids that are suffering in the world.

01:25:07.160 One.

01:25:07.680 This is interesting because my thing is, first of all, if you, see, when live life before work,

01:25:21.480 that's why I want to come back if I can, to talk about women because it deserves.

01:25:26.640 It deserves a hundred hours.

01:25:29.120 But if you look at, it's important for women to first understand their power because they 1.00

01:25:37.760 control it all right now.

01:25:39.720 All.

01:25:40.280 They control it, but they don't know that they control it.

01:25:43.720 And because they-

01:25:44.640 Well, they do, but through a back door.

01:25:46.380 They know that things have to have women to make them go, but they don't look at what 1.00

01:25:52.160 is the thing we're enabling to go.

01:25:54.740 Okay.

01:25:55.260 And you know what?

01:25:55.720 I'm separating two things.

01:25:57.100 Because we're talking about kind of a society structure with women, kind of where they go 1.00

01:26:02.260 and what they do. 1.00

01:26:03.060 Well, I'm just talking about the world being so close to blowing up out of idiocy. 1.00

01:26:06.800 That's what I'm saying. 1.00

01:26:07.720 Out of idiocy. 1.00

01:26:08.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:26:09.440 See, I'm not talking politically yet.

01:26:12.060 What are you talking?

01:26:13.140 I'm talking about spiritually.

01:26:14.760 Well, that goes first, right?

01:26:16.420 But it's separate.

01:26:18.080 In other words, you know, there's an awareness of the importance of women and who they are and

01:26:25.980 why and how in the book.

01:26:28.440 It's in my book, actually.

01:26:29.600 I know.

01:26:29.740 It's in my book.

01:26:31.060 And basically, it's saying how the purpose of women's creation and the purpose of man's

01:26:42.820 creation and how important women are and how she is an extension of God on earth. 1.00

01:26:50.320 And I know.

01:26:53.440 It's hilarious.

01:26:54.600 Yeah.

01:26:55.160 So we have gardeners outside that are screaming.

01:26:58.420 I think we're OK.

01:26:59.580 I'm trying to hear.

01:27:00.460 I think we're OK.

01:27:02.140 Well, we can hear them.

01:27:03.180 But whatever.

01:27:03.460 So anyway, to me, as a man, and I love being a man, I'm not taking nothing from men because

01:27:10.300 I love being a man.

01:27:12.160 But I know my purpose for being created.

01:27:16.780 And women, it's just obvious how great they are. 1.00

01:27:22.400 Because I think once women and men see who women really are and why, and I'm just a presenter.

01:27:29.460 If what I present to you makes sense, you take it.

01:27:31.840 If it doesn't, it's fine.

01:27:33.080 Just live whatever.

01:27:34.400 No, it's the truth.

01:27:35.280 I can hear it.

01:27:36.140 Yeah.

01:27:36.460 So if it's the truth, I just want to look at it.

01:27:38.300 But I want to lay it out.

01:27:39.640 Yeah.

01:27:40.100 And so that's the woman part.

01:27:43.660 But to me, they should be appreciated, adored, respected, honored.

01:27:51.000 I look forward to that day.

01:27:52.840 Well, you know.

01:27:53.800 It's, you know.

01:27:54.700 In some circles, that is.

01:27:56.280 But, you know, it's so tied into the God thing.

01:28:01.660 What do you mean?

01:28:02.380 Well, I mean, they keep, you know, the silencing of women as a gifted being.

01:28:11.200 That all plays into the words game, too, right?

01:28:15.240 It's into society.

01:28:16.800 There's an animal, life, and then there's a society with human, with words.

01:28:22.380 So everything that we're talking about now is here.

01:28:25.060 Yeah.

01:28:25.220 That's why it's messed up.

01:28:26.700 Yeah.

01:28:26.860 Why is it messed up?

01:28:27.860 Because of the words.

01:28:29.340 Over here, there are no words.

01:28:31.960 You can see how God created woman to create all of God's children. 0.99

01:28:36.480 Right.

01:28:36.760 All of God's children come from women. 0.96

01:28:39.200 Right.

01:28:39.860 We're talking about God's children.

01:28:41.200 Where do they come from?

01:28:42.400 Women. 0.81

01:28:43.540 That's how powerful women are. 1.00

01:28:45.400 Yeah.

01:28:45.560 And so we can't, you know, we can never find it over here.

01:28:49.380 You said something about the Tower of Babel with the words of confusing.

01:28:52.500 Well, isn't that what's happening here?

01:28:54.140 Yeah.

01:28:54.480 And not one word means the same to anyone else.

01:28:57.480 No.

01:28:57.780 You can say one word and depending on that person's, you know, relationship with that word throughout their life, that word will mean something different to everyone else.

01:29:07.800 And then they get in wars like going, you didn't, because I went through this where they go, you did not mean what you say you meant.

01:29:15.560 Right.

01:29:15.980 You meant what I say you meant because I come from this group that's against you on here and there and there and this word.

01:29:23.980 I own this word.

01:29:25.320 Right.

01:29:25.840 Words.

01:29:26.560 Yeah.

01:29:27.360 Keep you confused.

01:29:28.660 Yeah.

01:29:28.800 So we're having a conversation about women, but we're using words.

01:29:32.420 Living life before words is looking at a woman as God created us to live without words. 1.00

01:29:40.000 And it's very simple to see.

01:29:41.500 Yeah.

01:29:41.660 And woman, most magnificent creature of God.

01:29:46.980 Like you can see in a family.

01:29:50.040 You see what I'm saying, Jake?

01:29:51.040 We do.

01:29:51.720 We see.

01:29:52.600 Because we think about like when we're with our family and you just watch what the women are doing. 1.00

01:29:58.460 They're not doing a lot.

01:29:59.980 I mean, they do talk a lot.

01:30:02.080 But, you know, but what they're doing to create the food, to bring people together, all that stuff is the not, that's the God part.

01:30:13.220 Yeah.

01:30:13.480 Right?

01:30:14.200 That's what you're saying.

01:30:15.400 It's the nature.

01:30:16.220 Oh, it's more than that.

01:30:17.360 Yeah.

01:30:17.680 Oh, woman. 1.00

01:30:18.260 But that's just a part of in the family.

01:30:20.480 That's the nature.

01:30:21.480 Yes.

01:30:21.680 She's always serving and getting people together, getting them to talk. 0.99

01:30:26.060 That's her nature. 1.00

01:30:26.700 In love with her hands.

01:30:27.700 Her nature, yes.

01:30:28.660 Yeah.

01:30:28.800 Her beautiful, beautiful nature.

01:30:30.900 Yeah.

01:30:31.140 It's the glue.

01:30:32.300 Yeah.

01:30:32.800 I mean, look it.

01:30:34.320 Y'all do so much in the, you know, umbilical, when we're in the womb.

01:30:42.580 Yeah.

01:30:43.220 I mean, you're creating miracles in the womb.

01:30:45.140 Yeah.

01:30:45.620 I mean, golly.

01:30:47.020 No, it's amazing.

01:30:47.660 I mean, listen, guys in that process ain't doing much.

01:30:52.260 They just have a little, you know, to do the thing.

01:30:54.960 Well, even the woman ain't doing that. 1.00

01:30:56.600 You know what I'm saying?

01:30:57.120 That's good.

01:30:57.360 No, but it ain't even the woman doing it. 0.99

01:30:59.780 It's a God doing it.

01:31:00.820 Yeah.

01:31:00.960 She's just got the bowl.

01:31:02.440 Well, because.

01:31:03.140 God's doing it all.

01:31:04.160 He made the flashlight, the light.

01:31:06.900 You know what they say?

01:31:07.880 I just saw this thing.

01:31:08.800 Did you see it?

01:31:09.360 Where when the sperm goes in and impregnates the egg, a little flashlight comes out.

01:31:14.660 I am sure.

01:31:15.480 Inside of where?

01:31:17.080 In the egg.

01:31:17.940 Inside of whom?

01:31:18.980 The woman.

01:31:19.400 The woman.

01:31:19.880 The woman.

01:31:20.460 Womb.

01:31:21.420 Yeah.

01:31:21.740 Inside the woman.

01:31:22.680 Yeah, but that's God acting in the woman's body. 1.00

01:31:25.840 It's all God.

01:31:26.960 Yeah.

01:31:27.100 It's all God.

01:31:27.840 Yeah.

01:31:28.020 Yeah.

01:31:28.360 So it's all God.

01:31:30.660 I think a lot of women are like, I created a human being. 1.00

01:31:35.020 I sewed its little fingers together and its little feet.

01:31:38.600 Well, no, you didn't.

01:31:39.440 That was God.

01:31:40.200 It's all God.

01:31:41.120 Through you.

01:31:41.360 But who's doing the work for the miracle?

01:31:44.980 For the woman.

01:31:45.480 For the woman.

01:31:45.700 Yeah.

01:31:45.980 That's my point.

01:31:47.140 It's all God.

01:31:48.200 Yeah.

01:31:48.500 But woman. 1.00

01:31:49.580 Yeah.

01:31:50.040 Labor.

01:31:50.280 Oh, she's amazing. 0.97

01:31:53.640 And women should be adored and appreciated.

01:31:56.600 Because I don't care.

01:31:58.160 From your lips to God's ear, that's what I'm saying.

01:32:00.660 I'm so glad you're saying these things.

01:32:02.900 They need to be heard.

01:32:04.280 And I'm glad a man is saying it.

01:32:08.980 It's in the book, and it comes from the beginning to where we are and why.

01:32:15.960 Where can we get the book?

01:32:17.100 You're going to tell me.

01:32:17.760 Oh, you can get it at beforewords.com.

01:32:21.600 Okay.

01:32:22.140 Letter B.

01:32:23.040 B-E.

01:32:24.120 Oh, it's B-E-F-O-R-E. 1.00

01:32:26.580 B-E-F-O-R-E. 1.00

01:32:28.680 R-E. 0.96

01:32:29.540 Words.

01:32:30.500 Words.

01:32:31.040 Dot com.

01:32:31.420 Dot com.

01:32:32.500 Yeah.

01:32:34.120 Beforewords.com.

01:32:35.560 Yeah.

01:32:36.020 Everybody read that, and then let's talk about it some more.

01:32:38.240 Yeah.

01:32:38.640 No.

01:32:38.980 It's a new level.

01:32:40.220 I love it.

01:32:41.120 No, thank you.

01:32:42.020 You're bringing out a whole new level of stuff.

01:32:44.820 A whole new way to look at a whole new thing we've been looking at for a long time.

01:32:49.320 Yeah.

01:32:49.740 But you're bringing a whole new wrinkle in time to it.

01:32:53.140 Thank you.

01:32:53.680 I appreciate it so much.

01:32:54.960 And I'm so happy to have you here.

01:32:56.540 I'm so excited to be reading more of your book.

01:32:59.360 Thank you.

01:33:00.240 And I love being here, and I thank you, and I thank Jake.

01:33:03.900 And thank you.

01:33:04.480 Well, we just love you.

01:33:05.800 I love you, too.

01:33:06.680 We are so happy to have had you here and spreading out some wisdom out there.

01:33:12.460 Well, I'm so happy that you had me on.

01:33:14.940 Yeah, I am, too.

01:33:15.520 And you're my first, so.

01:33:17.080 Oh, good.

01:33:17.900 And you did great.

01:33:18.300 I think it was a good.

01:33:19.140 You've got a future in podcasting.

01:33:20.620 You did great.

01:33:21.020 Yeah, you did great.

01:33:21.960 Thank you.

01:33:23.400 I appreciate it.

01:33:24.300 You'll know.

01:33:25.140 Now you'll never be afraid of a crazy podcaster again, because you would already broke all

01:33:30.640 that ice.

01:33:32.520 Nah, thank you.

01:33:34.640 And you're beautiful, too.

01:33:36.040 Thank you so much.

01:33:37.240 You're so sweet.

01:33:38.320 You're good.

01:33:39.260 All right.

01:33:39.880 Can I sing the outro with you?

01:33:41.260 Yeah, let's do it.

01:33:41.900 Oh, yeah.

01:33:42.320 You can sing, too?

01:33:43.120 I can sing.

01:33:44.100 Okay, one, two, three.

01:33:46.080 So you see, my patience is growing thin, with the synthetic world, we're living in.

01:34:00.080 So you see, my patience is growing thin, with the synthetic world, we're living in.

The Roseanne Barr Podcast - January 10, 2025

It's a Vibe with Berry Gordy IV ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #082

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