James O'Keefe ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #002
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In this episode of The Roseanne Podcast, host Roseanne chats with writer and performer James O'Keefe about his journey to becoming a writer, performer, and journalist. James shares his story of growing up in a broken family and how he came to understand that he was different from the rest of the world. He also talks about his struggles with multiple personality disorder and how it led him to a career as a performer and journalist, and how that led to his success as a writer and actor. He also shares the story of how he went from a shy kid to being able to write and perform on Broadway, and what it was like growing up with dyslexia and dyslexic parents, and the challenges he faced at a young age growing up as the only person in his family with such a disorder. Light up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile and get 50 gigs to use in Canada, the US, the U.S., and Mexico for just $35 a month for 18 months. Plus get a one-time gift of 5 gigs of Rome Beyond Data, Beyond Data. Conditions apply. Details at freedommobile.ca. Shout out to Freedom Mobile for sponsoring this episode! It's time to be impressed by Toyota's Tundra 4x4 CrewMax SR from $129 weekly for 40 months at 2.39% with $5,300 down. By the end of the day, you'll be standing there wishing you could high-five that truck that we call a Turda's truck. That's what we call Being Tundram's truck! -Time to be Impimping! by Toyota. -Shoutout to Toyota! Visit shoptoyota.ca/Shout-Out to Toyota on Black Friday, and Shout Out to ShoutOut on the podcast! Today's episode features: -The Roseanne Puff & The CrewMax Roseanne's Turd Out - and . with $35/month for 18 Months, plus $35 + $539 down. + $25 off your first month, plus an additional $50 off your next month! & $5/month, plus a freebie! and $75 off the second month, $100 off the next month, and $150 off the third month, get the deal starts after that gets you an ad-free version of Beyond Data Beyond Data gets you 5GB.
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I can't wait to delve into the recesses and depths of his genius and his mind.
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I have my special coffee cup that says they, which I got at one of those stores that sells coffee cups.
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But I was they before the LGBTQ CIA, ICM, whatever.
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Yeah, they kind of hijack the words of dissociation of people who are dissociative.
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And I was they before any of them MFers came into talking about pronouns because I have several pronouns and I am a they.
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And that's because you have multiple, you were had multiple personality disorder, right?
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That's what they, they changed the legal name of it for, I guess, for insurance purposes.
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Anyway, I can't wait to introduce a talented and brave journalist and writer as well as performer.
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Well, I met you at the TPUSA or something like that, Turning Point.
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You came in through the door and you were, you just had done something with your musical.
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And I watched it and I was like, man, that could go to Broadway.
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It was like a musical about my experience, my, what I was going through.
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It was funny and very informative and entertaining.
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And, of course, that's when you, whenever somebody who is known for something and then
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you go try to do something more or express your talent in a bigger way, that's when they
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They, when I did Oklahoma, the comments were, get back to work.
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And it was like, well, and people say they were feeling titled to me.
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You must be the slave to do this particular thing.
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But I always say if I wasn't wired the way that you saw, if I didn't have that performer
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within me, there never would have been a Project Veritas.
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I would say my earliest, my earliest insight into myself where I knew that I was different
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was when I was in second grade, but I didn't know how.
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So, and then I would say maybe in, in high school.
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What happened in second grade to make you think that?
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And when everyone, all the kids played kickball, I was alone.
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Or did you just feel like you, you didn't want to, or you were afraid to?
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I would, I would, I would, there was a, and I remember, um, indelible in my hippocampus.
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Remember that, remember that phrase from the, from the hearings?
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I don't know why that popped into my, indelible in the hippocampus.
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I was, I was in second grade and there was a bicycle rack and I would just tiptoe back and
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forth on the bicycle rack during recess while all the other kids were doing all the other
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And then one of the kids came over and said, why don't you join us?
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And I don't know what caused me to, to behave that way, but I was extremely introverted.
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There was like a little, um, you know, those old metal bicycle racks and it was sort of dented
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And I would walk on the tip, the top of it was just not very high and just sort of back
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When I was off by myself, I was always walking on a curb or something like that, trying to
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go foot in front of foot for balance, probably practicing for drunk driving later.
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But, uh, but I mean, you're, you're, did you ever go to journalism school or any of that?
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And it's like got a real working class bent to it, which is why I like you and why I followed
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But I wanted to ask you, the first time I saw any of your work was like right after, uh,
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It was, uh, and, and I heard you talking about how you were influenced by Michael Moore and
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I remember seeing that, I actually thought Roger and me was the one from like 1989 or
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I thought that was, I actually thought that was well, one of his only well done ones.
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I thought, I thought that was really, there was a scene with the rabbit.
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There's a scene from that movie where he's, it's like cinema verite.
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And I think she's skinning a rabbit or something to put food on the table.
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I thought it was actually a good piece of journalism and there were a number of other
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influences, but, um, I don't like how Michael Moore would later edit the tapes.
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I didn't think that was, this was right or fair.
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And I try not to do that, but yeah, he was one of a few different influences.
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I mean, it's all smorgasbord of influence, like Mike Wallace, who did this before I was
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born, 60 minutes, used to do this way, way, way back when, um, this group called the yes
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men who did the sort of agit prop things where they would embarrass people by putting them
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It was, you know, a whole different cadre of influences.
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Because you obviously became a rebel with a cause.
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What's, what's, what was the cause that you adopted?
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Because you didn't, you didn't want to humiliate working class people.
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You didn't want to sneer at them or say, aren't they stupid and deplorable?
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Those are the means, all the, all the techniques were a means to an end of, I think it was
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fairness and, and justice and balance and illumination, revealing, revelation, revealing about things
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because I felt as a boy, perhaps that things aren't presented as they ought to be, that things
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are rarely as they see, rarely as they seem and seldom as they should be.
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But of course, at the time I could not articulate this the way I am now.
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I mean, one of the first memories I have of actually being a rebel was, I was 18 and I'm
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I was one of these professors in my history department at Rutgers, which is the State University
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of New Jersey, the only State University not called State, New Jersey State, it's called
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Rutgers, he had like a door just covered in propaganda.
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Wouldn't that make a student feel uncomfortable if he didn't agree politically?
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So I, influenced by these people, I made a certificate called Best Decorated Communist, Best Decorated
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Door, and I printed it out and I, and I put a camera and I knocked on the door.
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I said, sir, I'm here to present you with the, you've won the award.
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Your door is more decorated with propaganda than any other door.
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And my heart's beaten and I'm sweating bullets.
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Did you think it was, did you think it was going to be funny?
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Because you were like livid or you were driven or you were like F you or, I mean, what was
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Not, indignation isn't the driving, I think it's a split between this sort of artistic desire
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So it's like, almost like maybe, maybe as you do a bit or you're writing a thing, it's
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Because you don't know what's going to happen, but whatever happens is always a bit.
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And what the guy actually did, now some of these professors would, you know, tell me
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I thought he was going to clock me in the face.
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And he goes, and he holds my certificate and he goes, this is the proudest achievement of
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And he actually played along and I played along and he played along and I played along.
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And I'm having this back and forth with this history professor who's saying, I have never
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Their video may exist on the internet somewhere.
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Yeah, that was one of the first, even before Lucky Charms.
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I was a philosophy major and I had a column and my column was not renewed in the daily
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paper because I wrote some things that they probably didn't want me to write.
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So I started my own magazine, monthly print publication.
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And I learned how to do like Adobe Page Maker and Adobe InDesign.
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I had a little staff, raised a tiny amount of money, a few hundred bucks to just print
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out a few thousand copies, print glossy colored copies.
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And I'd put them in the mailboxes of the professors.
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If they would have had cameras, that's what they would have done.
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They lived in a hippie bus in San Francisco and took a lot of LSD and tried to just mess
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with people's heads to break them out of their programming.
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But, you know, everything goes bad when humans are involved.
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But what about your pride in the things you've exposed?
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That was the most brilliant piece of cinema or whatever you want to call it I've ever seen
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You exposed the devil himself right there and calmly.
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That was perhaps the most riveting thing ever caught on camera.
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But it also looked too bizarre to be something that you wrote.
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And that guy went through the, as I said to you last night, that guy went through the
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He got, I got in there and I, you know, if you haven't seen this.
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Well, I, I identified myself to him immediately.
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And then I show him the iPad of him saying the virus isn't from Wuhan.
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And I said, but I'm supposed to believe everything you're telling me right now.
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Almost like threatening me for having done this.
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Now, going back to your question, is this talent?
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A lot of this is, when I got started, my heart's pounding.
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In fact, I'm calmer in that environment than in anyone.
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See, like when I got canceled and I was talking to Louis C.K.
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But we have to come back more fierce than ever.
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Yeah, because you've got to kick it in even harder because they already took you down.
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I was mad when they canceled me that nobody stuck up for me.
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But I'd say, would you say something in public?
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You were talking about your experience being canceled.
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Yeah, I was pissed that nobody stuck up for me.
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And I said, oh, my God, nobody's sticking up for me.
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You know, when somebody in the government calls the network to get you fired because you pissed.
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And the president of the network had plans to run as a Democratic candidate.
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As Oprah said on her interview of him, Robert Iger.
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And his first call was to Valerie Jarrett and Michelle Obama, too, and Susan Rice over at Netflix.
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But when the government calls the network, I mean, that's just complete fascism.
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And we are going to talk about fascism, but we'll come back to it.
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I wished I could go back in time and be a fly on the wall there or dress as somebody delivering sandwiches to hear those calls.
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So, I was like, I want James O'Keefe to tell me how I can go undercover because it should be exposed of how, why they would choose to destroy their number one star in their number one show, which they hadn't had for decades.
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And how come their stockholders never asked about it?
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And they canceled the show before even one advertiser pulled out by, you know, for a favor to the Democrat Party because I liked Trump because Trump talked about jobs.
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That conversation behind closed doors, that pressure that was put on, that's what I do.
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It needs to, they need to see the reality of how the system really works.
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But what I take from what you just said is nobody stood up for you.
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They're scared and they got to get that paycheck.
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And I bet you a lot of people inside Disney, there's good people that work for Disney, but they're scared and they need that paycheck.
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They said, well, they signed their, the German people, they, they signed their, their death and the death of their country and their souls away for, you know, a paycheck and a pension.
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Kyle Serafin at the FBI said that to me when he blew the whistle on something.
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He said, I, I, the paycheck and the pension is what, what leads to Holocaust.
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And that's probably the most disheartening thing, you know, for me.
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Because one thing to take arrows from these people like Jarrett and Obama, I mean, you're, you're, you're, you're strong.
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But to, but to get arrows from in the back, it's different.
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I've seen it in my life and that, that's, that's been its own journey for me.
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I, I, it made me evaluate core assumptions about myself and other people.
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Which I didn't know human nature was like that because I operated the, like the assumption that other people were like you, were like me.
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But like I told you, when, when talent is a gift from God.
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And so, um, talent is, uh, like the Chinese say, the nail that stands up must be hammered down.
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And talent is the thing that makes the nail stand up.
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So when you are talented, the one thing about, uh, being talented and, and able to generate money and move money around the hands is you, you get a lot of moths attracted to you.
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Uh, a lot of, um, uh, narcissistic people who don't have any talent, but they kind of like live through yours and try to usurp it and try to, you know, they try to sponge off it and think it's theirs.
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Did you know that they were like that when they first?
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Since I was a little girl, I knew that vampires existed.
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They knew, you knew that they were like that and you just sort of were careful and judicious with trusting them.
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Well, I, I, uh, you're asking her about the cast on Roseanne or people in general.
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Well, I knew I had to watch out for them because I knew that most people are not like me.
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I always knew that growing up Jewish in Salt Lake City, you know, more and more your eyes are open that you're not around normal human beings.
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They don't have the same values as you, and it's just about money.
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I think I'm realizing that, like, literally right now.
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But the world's also changed since I was a boy.
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I mean, Lord knows it's different now than it was the 1990s.
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I mean, people weren't chopping off private parts as much back then.
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I'm learning the way the world is, but I'm also learning.
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Like, I asked RFK this question when I was with him a few weeks ago.
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I said, was it worse now or when your uncle was president?
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He said the FBI is worse than the CIA, much more insidious now especially.
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But I'm learning about this money thing, and I'm realizing that money is security, right?
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It's an addictive society where everybody's addicted to something.
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Everybody's obsessed with something and has to buy something because, you know, they're just empty inside.
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And people who work with and around talent, most of those people I've found are there to destroy talent.
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So, you tend to trust people who seem charismatic.
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The same reason everybody gets molested as a kid.
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You trust charismatic people rather than really go out of your way to check people's references.
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If you like them right away because they're charismatic, you're like, I like that guy.
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I mean, she's groomed to pick the wrong people.
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Until you take your power back, which you can't do when you're completely brainwashed.
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And American society is completely brainwashed.
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But I want to go back to something you just said.
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Because I was walking here in Texas in the Meadows today.
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And I had this, it occurred to me this epiphany about the money thing.
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And I hope your audience understands what I'm about to say.
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But as I went through what I was going through a few months ago, a very painful thing.
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No, but they stole your whole company out from under you.
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Amy Robach, who's the woman on Good Morning America, on a hot mic during a commercial break.
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She said, Disney, everyone, they told us not to do the Epstein thing.
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It's plausible in light of the circumstances that someone somewhere was weaponizing certain things.
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But I don't have any direct evidence to support that.
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What about the Pfizer guy that said, you really fucked up.
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I mean, you have to make that decision for yourself, looking at things.
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People in the lawsuit, they just sued me a few days ago.
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One of the things they said in the lawsuit was that I'm not pushing back against people like you and other interviewers who say that Pfizer was involved.
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It's like, I don't have any evidence to suggest it happened.
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None of this makes any actual sense is what I've said.
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Why do they have to destroy their own cash cow?
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Why do they care about propaganda and not money?
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For the first time in the history of the world, a corporation doesn't care about money?
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Let me go back to what I was going to say about what I've learned is that I remember as a leader, because you made a really astute point,
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that talent tends to draw, attract, moth-like people or whatever we don't call them.
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I mean, if you're a star, if you're of any height, you will usually attract star effers and psychic vampires and hangers-on and these sorts of people.
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You mostly attract people who want to put you in your place.
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Everybody just says yes to you and bows to you.
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I've seen, without mentioning names, in my life, I've actually, people project onto you everything that they are.
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And they accuse you of everything that they're guilty of.
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It's almost like they want to make, because if you're good, they want to make you bad.
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That your very existence is an act of rebellion against who they are.
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And you have to be, like, insanely strong, because it'll make a reasonable man question his own perception of reality.
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And it shakes you to your core, and it traumatizes you, and you've got to heal from it, and you've got to move forward.
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But when I was sitting in my conference room some months ago, I think it was late last year, I had this epiphany.
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And I said, how many people here, let's say there's 75 people work for me, something like that, more if you include lawyers and contractors, how many people here, if someone came to them and said, I will give you, pick your number, $2 million, $10 million, $20 million, and no one will ever know that you got it.
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Just a thought experiment now, and the only thing you have to do is to stop doing what you're doing.
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I will give you whatever you want, and the only thing you have to do is to stop exposing corruption, stop pursuing this mission.
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Okay, but in my line of work, in my line of work, you can't have that.
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Like the people that are with me right now, I mean, the guy that you met earlier today, the pastor gentleman, the guy I introduced you on the phone, the undercover journalist, who shall not be mentioned by name, these people would not take that bet.
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And then I had to realize, well, how do I even evaluate?
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You can't ask someone, oh, I would never do that.
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You can't ask them a question in a job interview, right?
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And I had that realization some months ago, just sitting there.
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So in many ways, this is all a blessing, isn't it?
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Maybe we needed to get knocked down like that to rebuild back to a more sane and realistic.
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They're people who are actually really appreciative.
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I'm not talking about people like, you know, in the industry or in the politics.
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I'm talking about like some guy at a diner at a rest stop or at a restaurant.
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They say like, hey, you connected a few dots for me, which is great because it's like,
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that's what I want to do is like help people to see what's going on so that we can stop it.
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What do you think about Trump getting indicted?
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I'm still, this just happened as of this filming or this recording.
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This just happened very late last night and I haven't read up on all the analysis.
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I just saw the headline, but it's apparently under the Espionage Act, the 1917 passed under
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Woodrow Wilson Espionage Act, which I don't, on a cursory analysis, I don't think should
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I mean, first of all, it seems to be an unequal application of justice.
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They're going after this guy on any possible conceivable theory when every president probably
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is guilty of this sin, if not more so than Trump.
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I think it's in Florida, federal court in Florida.
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I'm not sure that a jury is going to convict him of this in Florida.
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This was, reporters were gathering in Miami and I myself have been targeted, you know,
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by the federal Department of Justice, the Biden Department of Justice.
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Merrick Garland, the attorney general is, you know, I think it's a horrible thing for the
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It is, but it's a good thing too, though, because people can see that it is an unequal
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application of justice because, I mean, just as Joe Biden is exposed for taking a $5 million
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bribe from, what, the Ukraine to affect Ukrainian legislation, and as soon as that's exposed, then
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they go after Trump, it's like they, they use Trump to fill the news cycle to keep the
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But how did they, how did they convince, I mean, they just must be blackmailing everybody.
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That must be what Epstein Island was for, is to keep people who work in the government
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You mentioned, you know, what are the next stories?
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One of the next stories, many, I can't tell you what the literal next story will be, and
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I don't want, you know, but don't tell the world.
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I, it's that blackmail thing, the leverage they put on people.
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They've generally failed because I live pretty clean.
00:33:12.000
And I had all my emails and depositions and lawsuits because that, because in their mind's
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eye, they're thinking, oh, I know, we'll just go through O'Keefe's phone.
00:33:24.020
And we'll be able to find something damaging on him that we can then leverage to, to, to,
00:33:32.360
Because in their own lives, they're dirty and they're corrupt and they're twisted.
00:33:37.320
But they're all making money from, um, side deals that aren't legal.
00:33:43.200
And I, and I was always focused on what, so I think the next story is that how they blackmail
00:33:52.760
Um, and I've seen it, but I haven't, let me rephrase.
00:33:56.900
I've seen people behave and I know that they're being threatened.
00:34:04.440
They got, because I could see them turn in a minute.
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Just like a few days ago, you were a different human being.
00:34:12.860
And they act like, they act like they're just, they're just cognitive dissonance.
00:34:19.160
Are you demonically possessed or did someone threaten you?
00:34:23.980
But I don't have the evidence of the blackmail.
00:34:26.760
What'd you think of the Supreme Court upholding the Voting Rights Act?
00:34:31.680
Yeah, I haven't taken a detailed look at that to make an informed opinion.
00:34:37.420
They came down against ballot harvesting, which is cool.
00:34:42.080
And Texas, right after that, said, oh, now we can institute voter ID, which was not possible before this ruling.
00:34:51.500
All we hear is that it's, they were trying, Republicans were trying to keep black people from voting.
00:34:59.200
I mean, I do stories on voter ID laws years ago and I went in there undercover and I went
00:35:04.700
into the attorney general's, this is Eric Holder, Obama's attorney general, into where
00:35:11.520
And I went under there and I went undercover, my guy did, he's a white, 23-year-old white
00:35:18.340
guy, and he walks up to Eric Holder's voting booth and he says, hey, you guys have Eric
00:35:25.240
But they thought colloquially, oh, he's just asking for his own ballot.
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And they offered him Eric Holder's ballot to vote in that election.
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Eric Holder, then a 63-year-old African-American guy with a mustache.
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This is an extraordinary moment, extraordinary piece of television.
00:35:47.780
And it demonstrates how easy it is to commit fraud.
00:35:52.060
So Eric Holder, who's against voter ID, then implemented the policy in his precinct that
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voter ID was necessary because so his ballot wasn't stolen.
00:36:06.920
It's so, but that's how the gaslighting and the, you're exposing it.
00:36:10.620
And they hate you so much because you're exposing it.
00:36:17.520
You're, you're, you're, you got to make them live up to their own book of rules.
00:36:24.920
They don't, they, they don't want to, they can't live up to their own, they, they have,
00:36:29.620
they should live up to their own book of rules, but they can't.
00:36:34.480
That's, that's, I think how, I mean, can you shame the devil?
00:36:37.580
Some people say no, but the closest you can come to shaming the devil is doing that with
00:36:45.420
And that actually changed some laws that people, you know, really changed their, they changed
00:36:51.120
I had one professor say, gee, I didn't think voter fraud was possible until I saw your
00:36:58.900
What do you think is going to happen in the 24 election?
00:37:02.940
I wouldn't be surprised if aliens descended to earth next week, all bets are off.
00:37:08.400
I can't, predictions are all, the world is so irrational.
00:37:26.160
Could I, plausible, just as plausible as, as, as Biden, in my opinion.
00:37:34.160
And the Trump DA, the New York DA thing, I think helped Trump immensely.
00:37:40.420
I don't think, just the more they go after him, the more ridiculous it is.
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And they, and they sued him in Justice Thomas's court.
00:37:54.560
But this, this is a different, this is a new Rubicon to, to, to indict, for a federal
00:38:03.380
But don't you think Trump's kind of like, come on, get me, get me, get me, come on,
00:38:14.680
That's a lot what kept me strong too, as I go, look at Trump.
00:38:18.280
Well, it's, it's terrifying because I'm like, that's the path.
00:38:23.780
Um, but not, not as much shit as Trump takes and he's still standing.
00:38:28.600
And I think that, you know, people live vicariously through that because like even the New York
00:38:34.060
deed that what Trump did in New York city was not a felony.
00:38:36.880
That wasn't a felony, but they went after him for it.
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They went and changed all the laws in the election too.
00:38:50.500
And the attorney general, the attorney general of New York, Letitia James is her name, ran
00:39:00.840
Which is so contrary to every basic understanding of American principles.
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That's not taking a vow to uphold the constitution.
00:39:11.420
That's, that's, uh, uh, something you'd see in a third world Stalin country.
00:39:16.520
And, and if we can't unite around that, if we can't figure out as American, by the way,
00:39:24.000
Like even in my deal, the feds raided me and, uh, over the president, Biden's daughter
00:39:31.920
Feds raided my home to try to get my phones and the ACLU, which is a liberal group defended
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I think for Letitia James to run for office, I'm going to find a crime on this guy.
00:39:51.040
And as artists, you and I have to figure out how to wake people up to that.
00:39:56.160
I don't think politics is going to wake people up.
00:39:58.960
Politics is going to put people in their respective camps.
00:40:03.380
I think, uh, and I've wanted to talk about this the entire time.
00:40:08.260
You guys have both been victims of it technically, but what happened with Tucker, what happened
00:40:19.140
You were ousted from a company you built from the ground up.
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You were ousted as the number one star on television.
00:40:26.720
Tucker was number one on cable news and was ousted.
00:40:29.320
So the three of you haven't just been fired, you've actually been de-platformed and kicked
00:40:34.240
out by friends, family, co-workers, the government in your case.
00:40:38.980
So this, to answer your question, you say, how are we going to wake it up?
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I think you guys already have just by, just by being victims of it because it's insane.
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I mean, look at Tucker getting a hundred million views on his podcast there on Twitter.
00:40:57.780
Fox News, I mean, I texted him right after he was fired or whatever, saying, you're going
00:41:05.420
And I'm going to tell you the same thing, James.
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I think 2017, your year, though, was a big one.
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And, you know, I had 28, 28, between 22 and 28 million viewers that went down to 3 million.
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Everybody, wherever I go, even liberals, say to me,
00:43:12.860
you got singled out where they let all these other people, like, just skate on it.
00:43:19.440
Oh, and then they wrote articles where you were, like, mentioned in the same sentences,
00:43:22.580
like Harvey Weinstein and people that, like, sexually assaulted somebody because of a tweet.
00:43:30.860
One thing you said earlier, and I want to talk about, you said,
00:43:37.380
Because even just from a straight business standpoint, right?
00:43:44.420
Now, I think the Conners, which I hate to even say that word, is, like, around two or three.
00:43:48.960
They're losing millions and millions of dollars.
00:43:56.380
We were talking about corporatism and corporate fascism and how corporations...
00:44:02.980
When corporations and government get together, that is the very definition of fascism.
00:44:18.880
No, they're getting more consolidation of ownership.
00:44:21.240
Like, you look at the people who invest all the money in Pfizer and Fox, the overlap is so...
00:44:28.980
It's almost like the same exact companies own the same exact stake.
00:44:37.900
You had 22, 28 million viewers, and it went down to 3 million.
00:44:43.400
It's not like they don't think about the end game.
00:44:49.440
They put something other principle ahead of their own success, which was to tear down talent.
00:45:07.420
I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence the three of you are considered, you know, within the same political sphere currently.
00:45:15.140
And the people that do the cancellations, the people that run these corporations, are on the other side of the spectrum.
00:45:25.640
But, like, that's not a coincidence that, you know, conservatives...
00:45:39.180
And the more that I think of myself that way, the more successful I'm going to be.
00:45:46.640
Listen, generally speaking, most people in politics are narcissists.
00:45:50.340
And they're about tearing down the other person to get ahead.
00:46:09.340
They just steal public money and put it in private pockets.
00:46:13.340
While all the time going, hey, you're a racist.
00:46:26.880
They have to tear down the other person for them to get ahead.
00:46:35.320
I've heard it said that it's easier to tear something down.
00:46:38.680
I've also heard it said a builder can build faster than a destroyer can destroy.
00:46:48.160
Because in my life, I've been through a lot of shit.
00:47:15.320
A builder can build faster than a destroyer can destroy.
00:47:23.000
I think America's going through some stuff right now.
00:47:32.640
And I think that the government of, by, and for the people is not going to perish from the earth, as Abraham Lincoln said.
00:47:41.460
And I think that it's gathering itself up and growing heart and will in the people.
00:47:52.200
And that they're realizing that maybe they were lax for a while.
00:47:56.120
But especially my generation, the grandparents, were like, hey, you know, we can play a few less golf games and serve our community and our children a little bit more.
00:48:14.880
I think people are wanting to do good more than ever before because they are afraid and they see that things have taken a wrong turn and they have to be corrected by us.
00:48:35.800
What's the biggest thing we could do to wake everybody up?
00:48:42.860
I think like what your son said a moment ago, which is very true, what is happening is waking people up.
00:48:50.740
And you are a part of, you were a part of that.
00:49:02.620
How do I, how do I, what do I do, James O'Keefe?
00:49:09.600
Literally, I'm in your, your home and I'm, I'm receiving these messages.
00:49:14.960
And my, my admonition is putting it back on them.
00:49:32.520
Most people, most people don't really are not, that's not their thing.
00:49:48.700
What I'm trying to do is decentralize it so that there's, there's thousands of these
00:49:55.920
I mean, I get hundreds of messages a day from people who want to work with me and for me.
00:50:04.120
I think you're right telling people to go to the school boards.
00:50:07.000
Because that is the first congregation of power in our country, the local school board.
00:50:14.600
And that's where it seems to be the genesis of everything.
00:50:21.960
In that particular case, they expressed interest in education.
00:50:25.460
Sometimes they expressed interest in the VA or Medicaid fraud or the teachers' unions
00:50:34.100
Like, I had a whole bunch of Wall Street guys come to me.
00:50:36.740
What I'm trying to do is rather, they all want me to go investigate.
00:50:42.400
I said, well, I can't, I can't be in 10,000 places today.
00:50:46.040
So what I, what we have to do is, is empower those people, empower those people to do something
00:51:02.580
And, and, and, and any, whatever the issue is, it doesn't matter.
00:51:08.100
And empower people to just go film it, go witness it and film it and put it, uh, you
00:51:18.220
Makeup, I mean, Twitter is a, is a platform, at least for the time being, that is because
00:51:24.860
I was banned on there for two years and then Elon bought it.
00:51:27.500
And then I was put on in December, right before the Pfizer story.
00:51:30.900
And that Pfizer story got, you know, 50 million views.
00:51:33.760
So I think it's, they can, OMG, we can curate it, produce it.
00:51:38.700
In some regards, I have to, because journalism, you, you have to tell a story.
00:51:44.480
You know, there's all these things, but I'm happy to do that.
00:51:49.000
It's much easier for me to do that than go collect it as well.
00:51:51.920
So if you've got a few hundred or a few dozen people sending me information, um, that's
00:52:01.720
Um, I'm happy to help them, but they got to help themselves.
00:52:06.160
They got to go out and they got to go out there and give it a shot.
00:52:10.700
And I, and I think while you're saying people, the money is, you know, is money the root of
00:52:15.820
I think people are waking up and realizing that it's, it's, they're following their conscience
00:52:28.460
I mean, it took a lot, but hopefully it continues.
00:52:35.880
Is there anything you'd like to say before we close?
00:52:41.580
Um, O'KeefeMediaGroup.com is the website, O'KeefeMediaGroup.com.
00:52:46.680
You can sign up to be a journalist and subscribe, support our mission.
00:52:51.340
Like, don't people sign up and then if they pass some vetting, you actually send them
00:52:55.640
like a camera and teach them how, can you explain that a little bit?
00:52:58.360
If you go, go on the website, um, O'KeefeMediaGroup.com, OMG, which is a double pun because it's also,
00:53:06.620
It also means, Oh my God, which, cause you see these tapes like, Oh my God.
00:53:14.060
Uh, I loved when he jumped the camera and tried to get the tape.
00:53:18.360
He was on the floor on my ankles and like a little child, spoiled child.
00:53:22.620
And it's a triple pun because OMG, they won't be able to censor that because everyone uses it all around the world.
00:53:29.220
So you can go to the website, O'KeefeMediaGroup.com and there's a dropdown menu and you can sign up to be a journalist.
00:53:38.320
So we have this database of citizens now and we, we do vet, we do basic vetting.
00:53:44.200
Um, but most people are able to sign up and get a camera and, and go expose.
00:53:52.560
They return it when the story's done or it's just depends upon the person?
00:53:56.560
But you know, in some cases, even citizens have bought their own camera online.
00:54:01.820
If you, if you have a really good idea, a really good story, the cameras are not cheap that we ship you.
00:54:08.520
They're special cameras and they're, we let white label them.
00:54:16.440
I'd like to empower everybody to start citizens.
00:54:23.180
And send out like, uh, especially old, old ladies.
00:54:26.620
You got a lot of time on your hands to, you know, go, go.
00:54:33.820
Well, the old ladies always say, well, if I was 30 years younger, I said, you don't need to tell me that you're, you're, you can do this.
00:54:40.200
Because they have the wisdom to know what's really going on and to go after it.
00:54:54.380
Thank you for offering help and, and stay tuned because I think bigger, bigger things are ahead.
00:55:03.520
Like I told you, you, God took you out of Egypt.
00:55:06.540
You might've wandered in the desert for a while, but you're coming into the promised land.
00:55:17.480
I'm not yet walking down that path fully, but my foot is on the path.
00:55:21.900
And you know, two more steps, two more steps, one step at a time.
00:55:27.540
I know you guys are wrapping up, but, um, you keep, I keep wanting to talk about when you say, don't these people care about money?
00:55:35.220
So the question I have for both of you is, well, that's like Bud Light, Target, Kohl's.
00:55:40.240
Well, have you seen the, have you seen the BlackRock CEO?
00:55:56.480
And this is one thing we're going to, we're asking companies.
00:56:04.360
What we are doing internally is, if you don't achieve these levels of impact, your compensation could be impacted, okay?
00:56:14.280
And if you don't force behaviors, whether it's gender or race or just any way you want to say the composition of your team, you're going to be impacted.
00:56:29.440
Well, it seems like, right, that there is a larger agenda at play that doesn't have to do with money, that doesn't have to do with corporate profits.
00:56:41.740
In fact, they're willing, Target's willing to blow 13 billion, Bud Light, we know all the stuff, you guys, ABC, Disney.
00:56:53.380
And why is it always on one side, one political spectrum, one narrative?
00:57:00.060
But why is it the corporations that are pushing this sort of woke ideology?
00:57:03.480
And what you really get out of that video, that you get out of that video, if you watch it the way I did, and you guys probably agree, forcing behavior.
00:57:10.640
He's basically doing corporate fascism, corporate bribery, terrorism.
00:57:18.680
I'm just saying, you know, the timing is suspicious.
00:57:23.180
So, there are powerful corporations at play that are pushing an agenda that's different than you and Tucker and a lot of other people that have been deplatformed.
00:57:33.900
So, my question to both of you before we wrap up is, what is it?
00:57:44.760
It's not, I don't believe for a second it's to bring people up and people of color.
00:57:52.160
They don't care about gay people or black people or anything.
00:57:59.420
They care about their perversions and their degeneracy caused by their love of unfettered power.
00:58:10.460
And, you know, you just have to look at the UN.
00:58:17.860
And the UN is the most corrupt, abysmal beast on the face of the earth.
00:58:38.060
How does pushing woke agenda lead to Luciferian Mecca?
00:58:40.860
Because I hate Satan or Lucifer is the illuminated one that they all worship.
00:58:54.740
They care about their religion more than they do money.
00:59:14.120
There's so many things I want to say, but I'm not going to.
00:59:18.280
No, well, I mean, it's factual things I've seen in my life.
00:59:22.060
I could tell you 500 stories, and I'm trying to get.
00:59:29.160
Well, I mean, I'm a believer in God, and I've dealt with atheists.
00:59:35.180
And I've seen, you know, there's certainly a love of power and an envy.
00:59:41.740
And envy is the root of a lot of evil in the world.
00:59:44.420
Envy is the root of a lot of socialism and communism.
00:59:47.800
In the Soviet Union, it was envy, I believe, that drove people.
00:59:51.640
And in your whole discussion about being an artist and them trying to bang down the nail,
01:00:00.260
They wanted to tear you down because they could not be you.
01:00:17.140
And I think it's, I think that I'm going to be working on stories that help answer your question.
01:00:24.520
I don't, we don't have all the answers yet, nor should we speculate.
01:00:27.280
But what I do know is, is Roseanne's right, it's power.
01:00:36.620
Newsmen, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years ago, probably more than 30 years ago, before Diane Sawyer's time,
01:00:46.240
They actually had bosses with balls that would go do this stuff and spend the money on the investigative.
01:00:52.720
I mean, you know, Wallace, way back when, in the 70s.
01:01:01.000
And it's, and you have to have really, these Wall Street people, I mean, you have to have
01:01:06.340
people who have really strong constitution and values and good leadership and boundaries.
01:01:22.860
It's just, it's just weird to me that that movement that they're doing gives them more power
01:01:33.320
So if you're a corporation and you're making a shit ton of money, now you have power.
01:01:36.780
But if you're willing to give up money, then there's got to be something else they value
01:01:40.820
Well, but that's only because money's pretty well fiat and worthless.
01:01:44.820
If money was really still worth something, they wouldn't be doing that.
01:01:48.700
Well, when I look at a transaction, I think, as a reporter, I think who stands to gain.
01:01:57.840
If someone wanted to take out James O'Keefe, who stands to gain from James O'Keefe being
01:02:21.180
I believe these answers will come to light in due time.
01:02:25.200
I like that you're training people to replace you in case you do get off.
01:02:34.780
Yeah, because even if they take you out, there's a million more people.
01:02:37.020
They can take out one man, but they can't take out an army of people.
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The emperor is trying to, but the people are behind the Gladiator.
01:02:52.260
That's what they're scared of the grassroots, aren't they?
01:02:58.840
But so that's probably the worst sin we could commit is to empower the grassroots.
01:03:05.240
Like all the comments right now are supportive of me.
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They don't actually want to acknowledge that they're real people.
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So if we got the decoder ring to reverse it all, we would know and be very firm in knowing
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They try to minimize the people and the people that support you, all your viewers and everything.
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Double think of George Orwell's 1984, which was the year I was born.
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And that book should be reread every year by everyone.
01:04:02.620
I just want to close in saying that it was wonderful to have you as a guest in my home
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