JFK case solved!? with Shane Stevens | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #085
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Shane Stevens, the Grandson of the late Billy Solestes, joins the show to talk about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the infamous audio recording of him being played on the phone by his father.
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operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Greetings Americans and earthlings, human beings and all
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what have you's from whatever planet, nation, grid, wherever you're from. Welcome here to the
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Roseanne Barpad, ad cast, podcast. We have a really interesting show today. We have, uh, Shane
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Stevens, who is the, uh, grandson of the late, they called him Billy Solestas, which I can't wait to
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talk about because my dad was like, so into that whole thing. My dad used to talk about it all the
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time when I was a kid. So I like have, uh, vicarious, uh, knowledge of, of this whole thing. And it'll be
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a mind blower. And he was just on Alex Jones, my friend show the other day. And I watched that and, uh,
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that was phenomenal. It was phenomenal. So I'm happy to have you here. Hi, Shane.
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Hello, Ms. Barr. It's an honor to be on your show and, um, your sweet, dear friend, my wife,
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Jen. Um, same with you, Jake. So thank y'all for that. And, um, excited to go into whatever it is
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that, uh, y'all want to talk about or whichever direction you want to go. Well, Jake told me that
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he met you over there at some party at, uh, where, where we all met at Mar-a-Lago. No, it was actually
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John's house, uh, in Texas, uh, about a year ago. And, uh, I, I know, uh, Shane's wife and
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we just hit it off. And I started talking to Shane and we're in the, the, the living room
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and he starts telling me about this audio tape and I don't know how it came up, but he plays
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it for me on his phone. And it basically implicates, uh, LBJ and the assassination of JFK. And he's
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telling me about his family's history. We'll get into all this, but anyway, I'm at a party
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and he's telling me all this stuff. And I'm like, this is going to be the biggest story.
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But at the time, you know, he was going through the proper channels. We kind of laid off. So I,
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to my surprise, I see it going Alex Jones two weeks ago or something, 50 million views it's
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at now. I mean, it's a huge, huge story. Insanely viral. Your wife was texting me. She was
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embarrassed because everyone was calling around the clock. And I was like, I'm so happy that we
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can finally talk about this. Cause I kind of felt like I was keeping it secret. And it was like one
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of the most important things I have ever heard. And I think it is. Well, Alex show was the right
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place to break it because, you know, look what Alex has done for all of us. He's the original
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truther, right? He's, he's woke up most of us, Alex, right? He has. Yeah. He's, he's been way out in
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front of it. And, um, he's fought all of the stigmas to some degree. Like I have, you know,
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we're growing up with the granddad that's Billy Saul Estes and spoke, you know, crook, convict,
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swindler, all of that. And I, sadly, I believed all of it when I was a kid. Yeah. Well, not anymore.
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You know, the older you get, you're a kid. I mean, that's what the book, the history books,
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the TV, that's what everybody said about him. And we didn't know back then it, this,
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we're in the great awakening and everything's opening up and it's, you know, I think our gut
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told us at Tom's wait, what we're seeing on this Kennedy assassination or, you know, certain things.
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Like, I think we had the intuition or gut feeling that it wasn't right, but now everybody kind of
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questions because we've seen so many lives and so much to see. And so now we individually really
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question and I think have a responsibility to what's right, what's real, what's true. And where are we
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being lied to? That's right. Americans. Cause you know what? Uh, we will be judged for what we allowed
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and for the leaders we allowed to do whatever the hell they have done in our name. We will be judged
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for it. Stop thinking you won't be. Stop thinking you got clean hands cause you don't. And it's time
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to fully wake up as to what's been done in your name and with your money and with your kids' lives
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and with your life. And you'll be happy to know, Shane, that there was one man out there in Salt Lake
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City, Utah named Jerome Harold Barr, who he took up for Billy Saul Estes when I was a girl.
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And he said, uh, I remember my dad, I don't remember all he talked about, but he said,
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they're railroading this guy. Cause my dad was, he thought like, you know, he thought like me with
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that kind of, uh, these are all crooks everywhere. They're all crooks, the whole government, but he's
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like, they're really, they're railroading this guy. They're going to hang in the whole blame of
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every dirty thing they've done forever on this guy. And my dad said it was cause he had the name
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Saul in his name and they was going to blame him cause they were thinking he was a Jew.
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That's what my dad said. Cause he thought everyone hated anything to do with the Jews.
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And if they had the name, Saul, they'll hang it on them.
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And the funny thing is a Jewish man, you know, they, once they put a halt to everything, all of
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my grandfather's business dealings, it came to a screeching halt. He could no longer do business.
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Most of the folks that invested with him and taken out loans, they all I've talked to so many of them
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and they they've said, Shane, he would have been able to make everything come together. If they not
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stopped him, halted him, froze his bank accounts, his assets, he would have, he would have worked that
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deal out. And, you know, since I've obviously looked in and understood what this business model was. And
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it's funny, I can tell you all the story about a tow truck company of how his mind worked to where it
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wasn't necessarily unethical or it wasn't illegal, but maybe it wasn't fully ethical. Sometimes
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of how. Really? You mean our government? You mean someone in our government did something unethical and
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barely legal? Really? For business? There was some shady stuff going on. And LBJ, he was,
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he was a slick one, no doubt about it. Shane, can you give a little backstory?
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He was really slick. Huh? What are you asking? Just what exactly happened with your grandfather?
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No, I'm getting to it. Okay. All right. I'll let you know. Okay.
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Shh. You. Shh. I'll get to you. Because you know stuff I don't know. But wait. Yeah.
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Yeah. So LBJ, he was a slick one, wasn't he? He was. You know, my granddad said that he's one of the
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meanest people that he had ever met. And he was fascinated with them. Typically, it's kind of like
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you see these billionaires these days, and they control the politicians. Well, LBJ controlled
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everybody, whether it was the senators, the congressmen, his donors. He had a fascinating
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way of controlling people. And it was in part based on his relationship with J. Edgar Hoover.
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And then they would get dirt on people and he was not afraid to use it for his benefit. There was no
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shame in it. And then he was a little bit heavy handed to where if they got out of line and that didn't
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work, then they often died very mysteriously. So my granddad. Yeah. It was like kind of what,
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I mean, in a way, it's kind of what, how close to, I mean, this is an opinion,
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but it's kind of exactly like Biden, but Biden was not good at it.
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To some degree. I mean, poor Biden. I think Biden was controlled,
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but perhaps by some level of deep state and honestly think that was a test of the American
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people to see how far they could get and what they could get away with.
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I mean, I'm still concerned about a lot of the stuff that was signed after he was ruled
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incapable of running for president. How is he still capable of signing all of these executive orders?
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How is he capable of 8,000 folks that he's doing pardons for? Like you can't be incompetent,
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but then make huge decisions that impact all of us.
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Huge decisions that are clearly incompetent and immoral. But anyway, back to the granddaddy of the
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uh, Democrat party, he was the granddaddy, wasn't he? Well, after, after he let's, let's just go to it.
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Your granddaddy, he, he knew they were coming for him and they were going to pin all this government.
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Uh, what do you call it? Agricultural scandal on him. So he made himself an insurance
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tape, right? Is that what can we say before we introduce this tape? He made himself an insurance
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policy, which is a tape recording. Is that right? So to some degree is partially accurate. There are
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other tapes, um, which I do not have. Um, but there are other tapes that were done before, um, and during
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the whole trial, which happens, um, I believe is in, you know, early sixties. So, um, probably 1961,
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somewhere in that timeframe is when the trial began. And ultimately the Kennedys were coming after
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LBJ, but to get to LBJ, they were going after his network. So there are supposedly tapes from around that
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timeframe. Um, and I possibly, I don't want to talk too much on that, but, um, this tape was recorded
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more around 1971 because my granddad had recently gotten out of jail or prison. And then, um, Cliff
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Carter, who he's talking to, who was, I mean, LBJ's right-hand man, we can go on, listen to his voice,
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go to Spartacus educational. Um, that's what I first did is I tried to verify this Cliff Carter voice
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and you can hear it time and time again. So this was, I think more of an insurance policy that he
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wasn't going to get killed. Um, yeah, that's what he got out of prison because supposedly, you know, one
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little family story, I didn't share this on Alex's show is Bobby Kennedy. Um, once my granddad was
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in prison, going to prison, once it was over, there were three people that were indicted. Two of them
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died very mysteriously, but my granddad lived. Perhaps it's because of the tapes. Um, perhaps
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it was because he had given Linden $10 million and supposedly, um, you know, Linden had said,
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get Billy Saul off at all costs, but you can't incriminate me in order to do it. And that was the
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my granddad off to show that, no, this was, you know, open deal that a lot of people knew about.
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So he recorded that tape. But then once Bobby came to him and said, look, we'll get you out of
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jail and we'll get you off of this, but you have to turn evidence on LBJ. He said, the minute I get
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out of here, turn evidence, I'm going to be dead. It's like, I will not do it. My life and my family's
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life is too important. And so I can't. He would have helped them had he thought that they could
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protect him and his family, but he knew the level of corruption and power that LBJ held and what he
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was willing to do to keep it. And so he wasn't willing to share it. And it was about, Jake,
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you know this so well. It was about a Texas agriculture. Jake, go into that now.
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Well, I mean, it's, I just want to, that's why I asked you, Shane, like, what exactly was your
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grandfather indicted for an arrest for? Because it sounds to me like he was doing deals with Johnson.
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It was kickback stuff. I don't know what if it's, how is it different than anything happening in
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government today is my first question. Well, so it's not a lot different. Right.
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You know, sadly, even here in Texas, you know, the, the tab to pay to play is a minimum of $250,000.
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Right. And then you get big, big state contracts. And I was told that firsthand and it's a sad state.
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I wish, I wish we were in a better place, but you know, that's what you got to do back then.
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And I think that goes through packs, you know, you donate it to a pack and then they
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put the money in. But back then it was delivered a lot of times in briefcases to Landon Johnson.
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So there were two scandals. I mean, there were some others that had happened. So for example,
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there was like a bunch of little houses that were on a lake that used to be some type of government,
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boy scout camp, something along those lines. Well, LBJ flipped that to my granddad and he bought it
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for say, you know, $1,500 a house and then put, uh, but $500,000 into them and then sold them for
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seven or $8,000. But he'd have to pony up to the right people after the fact. And these two that were
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way bigger, one was cotton allotments and that's a really fun story. And then the other one, which
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he's more well known for is anahydrous ammonia, um, and really the storage tanks that you could put
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them in. And so I'm happy to, you know, share the details of what was going on. If y'all want to go
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into that much. I wanted to know about the cotton stuff that the agricultural stuff always fascinates
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me. Cause you know, I farm in Hawaii. So I was wondering about all that, how crooked they are
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with their farm stuff, you know? Well, it sounds like a pay for place scheme territory. It sounds
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like the mafia. Like that's what it is. Even though it was Johnson and the Democrats, that's what it is,
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right? It's a protection weapon or what? Well, so back then, if I understand it properly,
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um, and again, I'm not a historical expert, but this is what I know and I'm happy to be corrected,
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but there were cotton allotments and generally depending on how much land you had or when
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they were given, you could only have so many cotton allotments, so much acreage per se.
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So maybe this guy has 2000 acres worth and this guy has 5,000 acres worth of whatever you got, you got.
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Well, Saul, he was trying to expand his empire out in Pecos, Texas, and he wanted larger acreage
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tracks, more cotton allotments. This is where it becomes a little bit of a scheme. And
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he would go to these farmers and say, look, I want to sell you some of my land and you can then
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transfer your cotton allotment onto that land, but then I'm going to lease it from you
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for more than what the payments would be for the land. But you're going to default on your first payment
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for that land. And that comes one year after we sign our documents. And per our agreement here,
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it basically says, once you default, the land comes to me. And so also the cotton allotment comes to me.
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So the farmer's making a big chunk of money off of not really having to do anything. And then my
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granddad is an insurance policy on his side. He would basically take these long strips of land,
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and that's what he was selling to these farmers. So that way, even if they did try and default on it,
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there's no way they could go out and farm these long, narrow strips of land.
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Okay. It's like BlackRock buying up. What was a cotton allotment though? What was that? That was
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a government contract, right? No, it just gave you the right to farm the land. And now I think
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the government would pay the land or maybe... Yeah, it's a government contract. It's a
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government, it's like... It's a subsidy. It's a subsidy.
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There you go. So something maybe... Yeah, exactly. Maybe it's a subsidy. Maybe it gave you
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rights to farm the land, but either way, you're making money off of it.
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Well, it gave the government a hook into stealing your land from you. That's what it was.
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Right. It's all a Ponzi scheme of the government taking our tax money to steal our own shit from us
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and kill us too. But anyways, talk about killing us now. So LBJ there.
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Was it... So anyway, he kills Kennedy, right? That's the big secret. That's the big secret
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everybody already knows. It was in... It was in... What's his name? Stone's movie.
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In his Oliver Stone's movie. He's like, he's sitting there with Donald Sutherland and Sutherland
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goes, yeah, LBJ killed him. Okay. And then he never says why, but you know why, right? Your granddad
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knew why. Oh yeah. There was a lot of motive. If you look at... If motive is a reason to kill somebody
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and you figure out who has the most motive, there's only one person it leads to.
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Right. Right. Why did... Why did... Why did... What do you think was the motive? Allegedly that if
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allegedly... Well, I mean, I guess Trump's going to declass it, so we'll know. But if allegedly it
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was LBJ who did that, what was his motive? I mean... So in two things on that one, can I speak to the D
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So knowing what I know, and then also every expert on LBJ, JFK, the assassination has reached
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out to me over the last few weeks since that show came out. Everybody's kind of thinking the same
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thing. And it's... So LBJ went to extremes to protect his family legacy, you know, family wealth.
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He put Jack Valente over the Motion Picture Association, which ensured that no films or movies
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would ever come out that would incriminate him. And there's another guy with the last name of
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Johnson, I think. He put him with CNN. Somebody would have to look into that and verify the guy's
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name and the details to ensure that within the news, nothing could come out. And he had different
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people positioned, different areas to help protect this whole family name and legacy.
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So if I'm gone to that extent and I've got J Edgar Hoover running the FBI, and then I've got friends
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that are running the F the CIA and everybody's slightly involved in it. I'm not sure that I'm
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going to leave all the details of what we did there. If I've gone through all this effort to cover it up,
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right? I'm not sure that I would trust classified documents that much.
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On the other side, I know a lot of, you know, murderers, serial killers,
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they, their pride or ego wants the story to be known at some point too of like, look what I got
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away with. Yeah. They love that. They usually turn themselves in somehow.
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Yeah. So I'm 75% that we're not going to find out all the details and the full truth. And then I've got
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this 25% thought that maybe it all is in there. So, well, it seems like it's the same people all the
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time. None of them's ever been arrested or, and they're still in the government, the same people
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or their kids took over for them, or they're still running the same racket from tiny little islands
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that the FBI and the CIA fly people to, and then they end up dead. But listen, maybe Cuba, this is
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what I think. Perhaps Cuba was the first Epstein Island. Hmm. They was taking people over there,
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blackmail them, this and that, and their hotels probably all wired up by what's his name getting
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the Castro. No, Hoover. Oh yeah. No, they did the honeypots and the blackmail. Of course.
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Yeah. And then Castro was like, Hey, you know, I can make more money than all of you. When I get in
00:25:38.120
bed with Russia, you're out of here. Yeah. And there was, there was a lot of stuff going on with Cuba
00:25:45.880
and they, they tried to pin it on Castro. They had, oh, Lee Harvey Oswald. He was a CIA guy that,
00:25:54.520
you know, in interviews with his mom, she discussed, yeah, he's CIA. But when everybody's talking about
00:26:02.120
him being this pro Castro communist, that's, that's part of the facade that he was using as a
00:26:09.480
low level spy. Right. And get in. And then they use that against him as the patsy. Right. And so,
00:26:18.520
I mean, he literally got hired the day before, and then his supervisor told him to go to the book
00:26:23.400
repository. Anybody who knew anything got rewarded. And I think, uh, pipelined into power,
00:26:33.560
anyone who kept the big secret. So I don't know. Do you think they're gonna, do you think he's really
00:26:38.760
gonna declassify it or is, is, or are you doing it for him? No, it's funny. I've seen some people
00:26:50.280
saying, when's the D class coming. And folks are like, this is the D class. This is not, I just,
00:26:58.040
I woke up one, um, it was a Thursday morning and God put it on my heart. He said, you need to release
00:27:03.400
it. And I have no idea why or what's pertinent to the timing. Perhaps subconsciously, I feel confident
00:27:09.160
that, you know, Trump's going to release everything. And obviously he's since signed,
00:27:13.240
um, the executive order to release it. And it feels like Trump says he, he, he goes, okay,
00:27:21.400
we're going to release the Kennedy, the MLK and the Bobby list. All that before the Epstein.
00:27:30.920
Think about that. It takes about six years, but it's kind of, it's kind of, um, scary on the Epstein
00:27:37.320
list of what all's in there. But, um, yeah, so we'll see. I guarantee it's the same people.
00:27:44.840
I guarantee it's all, it's all. You can tell that, right? It's just all the same people. They
00:27:52.280
pulled a big one on us. They stole everything we had. They're still doing it. And, uh, you know,
00:27:58.440
we're lucky we got Trump in cause we got a chance to put an end to it. Or do you, do you agree? And I
00:28:04.120
think, yes, God is caught. God is doing this D class. Cause he put it on you. That's how things
00:28:11.160
work. Yeah. I mean, and I've texted, you know, Don Jr. And just told him, I was like, I'm Trump.
00:28:17.000
God has his hand on him and is protecting him. Yeah. I do worry. They're going to continue to try
00:28:23.400
and kill him. He's now taking over the secret service. Um, you know, I think he's got better
00:28:28.440
control, but they're, they've got to be running for the hills and not just on their old corruption
00:28:33.560
and murders, but the recent stuff that they've done, it's it's we're not in the clear and we all
00:28:40.280
need to be praying for president Trump right now that God will not remove his hedge of protection
00:28:44.920
from him because he's the only person I can think of. That's truly, in my opinion, above it all to where
00:28:52.760
they can't buy him. Um, they've tried to kill him. They've done everything to weaponize the IRS against
00:28:59.320
him. They weaponize the judicial system against him. They have thrown everything they can at him
00:29:05.080
and he stands there resilient. And it's just like, what else have you got? It's, it's, it's mind blowing.
00:29:12.600
It's inspiring as well. I think it's good that it's coming from you because he won't have to fight so
00:29:19.320
hard to get this knowledge out there that this government is, you know, parts of it,
00:29:26.600
secret parts of it. Uh, the, the ones that don't have any accountability to we, the people whose
00:29:33.800
government it is, uh, they need to be dealt with and handled and, you know, judged and removed.
00:29:41.320
And I think the people are ready for it now. I really do. So now I want you to talk about,
00:29:47.240
uh, and should we play the tape or where do you want to go from here with this, Jake?
00:29:51.640
I'll probably edit it in a couple of questions. I just want to set up a little context here. It's
00:29:56.360
important because a lot of people don't know about this. Um, we know everything, but a lot of people
00:29:59.800
don't. So Lyndon Johnson, for those that have been under a rock was the vice president under John F.
00:30:05.000
Kennedy at the time. And, and John F. Kennedy was investigating Lyndon Johnson. You asked
00:30:10.200
earlier mom about motive Johnson and, and Shane's grandfather, there's this cotton allotment. There's
00:30:15.800
all this criminal stuff that Kennedy's looking into. And Bobby Kennedy, who's the attorney general
00:30:19.880
at the time is looking into also looking at the market. It's about government contracts for
00:30:25.240
to control farms. Well, yeah, but they're investigating Lyndon Johnson, their vice president.
00:30:30.280
And that's something that I, like, I didn't know this is new from Shane. He's selling, he's selling
00:30:36.760
cotton, uh, whatever. Well, it's the Texas mafia with Shane's grandfather. Like that's what this,
00:30:42.200
what he's talking about. So Lyndon's like, okay, you got to back off. And the Kennedy's don't the
00:30:47.560
same thing they did to Sam G and Conop in Chicago. They they're, they're going hard, which to me is
00:30:52.360
amazing. Everyone wants to say Kennedy's are amazing, but let's not forget the Kennedy's
00:30:56.200
themselves are a mafia family. They come from bootlegging alcohol, right? So it's mafia
00:31:00.600
their own bodies. It's like the Sopranos turning on New York. That's how I see it. And that's my
00:31:06.920
question for Shane. And then I'll back off. Doesn't this feel more like Kennedy's crime
00:31:11.880
family is going after the Johnson crime family, even though they're president and vice president
00:31:15.720
in the same administration. And it's kind of like a fuck you. And then Johnson orders this hit
00:31:21.400
and kills Kennedy is a way of saying, fuck you then takes over as president is signed in later that
00:31:26.280
day. It's there's no more bigger motive. I mean, that's the story, right?
00:31:31.080
It's a massive power struggle. And there were so many people aligned against the Kennedy's
00:31:37.800
and, and for the most part, the Kennedy's were doing a lot of things, right? Okay.
00:31:42.840
There was some stuff that they, they were unethical. And Jake, as you mentioned, Joe Kennedy,
00:31:47.960
the father was involved in bootleg and he wanted them to go straight and he was a legitimate businessman
00:31:54.280
up in the Northeast also. But what they had done is they, they utilized, I think it was Jimmy Hoffa,
00:32:00.360
the teamsters to strong arm a lot of people to get JFK elected. And that was part of Joe's influence
00:32:08.360
over with the mob of saying, you guys help me. And then we're going to watch out for you.
00:32:11.960
So it was a gentleman's agreement, a mob agreement saying, we're not going after you guys,
00:32:17.560
but y'all help us get in. And that was going to basically get in.
00:32:20.280
And also part of that is that they say Nixon won the boat and they fixed it for Kennedy.
00:32:32.520
So I guess that's what I'm getting at. It's like, we've all looked at this JFK assassination. It's
00:32:35.960
like the biggest conspiracy theory and scandal in American history. But the more you look at it now,
00:32:39.640
especially after seeing Biden and the Pelosi family, now that we have this modern way to view it,
00:32:45.240
it really just looks like mafia kickbacks, territory wars. And the mafia like Kennedy,
00:32:50.760
Joe Kennedy was like, fuck it. Let's not just have these street fights. Let's get an American
00:32:54.280
government. Let's go straight. Let's get in the houses of power. And we could really run this mafia
00:32:58.520
shit. And that's the deep state, right? That's the Democrat party right there is what that is.
00:33:03.960
I think so too. That's why I'm fascinated by this.
00:33:06.680
And then, and then Joe Kennedy had a, he had a stroke and didn't get to pass along to his sons.
00:33:15.800
And, you know, Bobby Kenny became, um, AG, he didn't get, it didn't get passed along of guys.
00:33:21.960
We can't go after them. So as AG, Bobby Kenny, he starts going after organized crime. He starts
00:33:28.120
hammering the mob. And so they're, they're not happy with it. Jack Ruby, that was kind of a little,
00:33:34.680
you know, minor part of it. He was obviously slightly involved. He was dying of cancer
00:33:39.080
from what I understand. So he was already going out anyways. And it was easy for him to jump in and
00:33:44.600
fill that void, that role. And they may have had a role in the shooter on the grassy knoll as well.
00:33:51.400
Gentlemen, comb files, James files. I've heard mixed reviews on whether or not he was the actual
00:33:59.320
shooter up there. But if he was, you know, that's somebody that was sent down from the mob as well.
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to deadly force. But then you've got D.H. Byrd. He's, I think D.H. Byrd owned the book repository and
00:36:12.280
perhaps another building. And he had huge contracts, was super tight with LBJ. And you know, you've got
00:36:19.720
that going. Then you've got the, the Texas mafia that Jake, you were referring to a while ago,
00:36:25.000
and they have huge contracts over with Vietnam and everything. And Kennedy's looking at finding
00:36:31.480
Vietnam down. And there's talks about perhaps deescalating some of the, um, the nuclear weapons.
00:36:39.720
So there were so many people going up against him. They were looking at, um, unwinding the federal
00:36:46.200
reserve and taking the time to look into that. Um, I, I didn't believe it the first time I heard
00:36:51.960
it maybe 15, 20 years ago, I had to start looking into it. That's a real problem. And they're making
00:36:57.480
a lot of money and I don't think they worry too much about who they kill to keep that, um, multi
00:37:03.240
trillion dollar a year racket going. Um, honestly, I hate talking about all this because I wonder about
00:37:09.640
my fate, but I think now's the time for full release and, um, the truth still sets you free.
00:37:15.800
Well, I think this is the time where God's really stepping in. He's making things happen. He's making
00:37:20.600
himself visible to people with the eye to see him and his, uh, marvelous works in this world and how
00:37:28.200
he still has, uh, hope for America. And he's not going to let it go down this, the way that these, uh,
00:37:34.920
people want it to, because the, the American people are not going to let that happen. That's why they
00:37:40.600
elected Trump. I think it's apparent, but, um, you know, we need to know how we got in this mess.
00:37:47.640
And the more we know, and the more everybody knows, the, the less easy it's going to be for
00:37:53.400
them to remove people who want to talk about the truth. You know, when they can control the truth,
00:37:59.800
uh, people who speak, it can disappear easily. But when everybody's talking and people don't
00:38:05.240
disappear so easily, you know? Yeah, exactly. And this is a thing where you mentioned a couple of
00:38:12.120
times you're like, everybody needs to know this transcends party, red, blue, race, like this
00:38:22.680
transcends all of that. And it is hopefully for everybody. It's not a Democrat. They were Democrat
00:38:28.040
back then. Kennedy's were all that. It's not a Democrat thing. Um, Trump's conservative. It's
00:38:33.320
not a Republican conservative thing. This is something everybody needs to know and understand
00:38:39.080
in order to formulate good decisions because they have pulled the wool over the American public's eyes
00:38:46.360
for a very long time. And they've used amazingly, uh, sophisticated tactics to do it. The whole term
00:38:53.320
conspiracy from understanding that really was coined over the assassination to make people think that
00:38:59.720
they're crazy or conspiracy theorists. If they believed in, um, anything other than what the
00:39:07.160
Warren commission put out, you know, has proven that that was a whole forest, but, um, you know,
00:39:13.480
they've tried to make you think you're crazy if you, if you, um, truly see the truth. And so I'm hoping that
00:39:20.360
the American public does wake up to start to see reality because they've been taken advantage of. We all
00:39:26.360
have, and we've got to get past our emotion and being tied to a particular party or a particular
00:39:32.360
person based on how we feel. We've got to look at facts and save this country. That's right. Facts and
00:39:40.680
facts alone, not, not beliefs that can strengthen us to look for facts, but facts, provable facts, money,
00:39:50.200
bottom lines, who gets it. That's what we need. None of this other stuff. I mean, that makes us a part of
00:39:57.880
who we are, but that what matters is the bottom line. Where did the money go? What was done with it?
00:40:07.000
If we're going to save our country and, uh, you know, not the color of the person who did it either,
00:40:13.480
not the, not, you know, just the facts, ma'am, where's our money? What'd you do with it? Who stole
00:40:20.600
it? How do we get it back? Uh, that money is the people's, the people paid the taxes, uh, with their
00:40:28.280
blood and sweat, set their kids to die for that government. And that's the government we want.
00:40:32.600
And that's the government we deserve. And that's the government that we own. And we're going to get
00:40:36.600
it back because we're the people that are going to do the work. We're not going to elect people and then
00:40:42.440
go, Oh yeah, we got a so-and-so in there that looks like me. So we're fine. Preachers. We're not
00:40:48.440
shitted like that no more. I love it. Right. It's demonic. Just demonic, I think. But what is your,
00:40:57.960
so Jake, are we going to, let's talk about the. Yeah. Well, okay. So Shane's grandpa Johnson, we get it
00:41:06.520
all blah, blah, blah. So in 1971, 72, your grandpa gets out of prison, right? Right. He goes home and
00:41:13.880
he meets with. Cause he did get set up. He did get hung out to dry for Linda and everybody else who was
00:41:19.800
involved with the contracts and the cotton and what have you. He got hung out to dry because he had
00:41:27.640
Saul in his name and they thought he was a Jew and they hate the Jews. So he gets out and he goes to this,
00:41:33.720
let's set up the tape now. So this, I just want to say something. He didn't mention this on Alex
00:41:38.120
Jones, but this is 71, 72. So it was the house select committee already organizing in those 17
00:41:43.480
deaths he refers to. Was that the material witnesses in the house select committee or those 17 other
00:41:47.880
people that Johnson allegedly killed? Or do you not know? These are folks that are just,
00:41:56.440
honestly, I need to take the time to research all of them and try and figure out who,
00:42:00.360
um, but they're referring to folks that were killed that were just associated with this whole
00:42:08.680
investigation. Um, the cotton allotment scheme, the fertilizers, this trial, um, and then this kind
00:42:16.680
of circuit of affiliation with, with, uh, LBJ. Wow. Okay. That's not like the whole kill list, you know,
00:42:24.600
other, uh, presidential families have a kill list of 52, 58 people. Now, I think there's a much
00:42:30.920
longer kill list, but this is just this specific area. Right. Because the house select committee,
00:42:36.840
which investigated the Kennedy assassination, for those of you who don't know, it was sometime in
00:42:40.440
the seventies and they had material witnesses that were going to talk about the CIA involvement.
00:42:45.560
Also, they all died mysteriously as well. That was another, I think 14 or 15, but anyway,
00:42:50.360
so your grandfather knows what's going on and to protect himself insurance thing,
00:42:55.720
he records a conversation that he has. This is the tape you released.
00:42:59.400
And who is it with? Yeah. Set that up and then we'll play it.
00:43:03.080
Okay. Right. And so this is with, um, Cliff Carter, Clifton Carter, look him up. He was
00:43:13.080
a bag man and bag man meant basically they'd go get money, collect money, um, potentially fundraise,
00:43:22.120
but really kind of whoever needs to pay up, they go get money. And LBJ had a few of them,
00:43:28.200
but cliff was one of his cliff had been with him from early on in Texas and the Texas Senate
00:43:34.760
all the way up to DC. You can go online and listen to oval office tapes of LBJ talking with cliff.
00:43:41.320
Cliff was the executive director at one point of the DNC. And you can see like through his career,
00:43:50.440
he's trying to get out of all this, like he'd gotten drug into it. And basically the other thing
00:43:57.000
that I learned about LBJ is he would say things in front of you. He'd do things in front of you and
00:44:02.360
he'd drag you into things to make you a co-conspirator with him. So basically you're part of it and you,
00:44:09.800
you don't have deniability, plausible deniability that you didn't know about this coming assassination,
00:44:16.120
or you didn't know about this. It's like, you're part of it. So he was wise about that. Um, but
00:44:23.800
they, um, went out as supposedly outside of Abilene, I think in Hamby, Texas, they went to a small little
00:44:31.160
house and my uncle, he'd married into my family. He married my aunt Jan and his name was Daryl Bright.
00:44:40.200
He, um, went with them and apparently they went out there. Cliff and my granddad, Billy Saul talked.
00:44:47.400
We always called him Saul. So Saul and, uh, Cliff were talking and they recorded it and Cliff left.
00:44:54.040
He died not long after that. I've heard, uh, some cases it was very shortly after that, but you can hear
00:45:00.600
him on the tape. He says, Cliff, I'm sorry to see you so downtrodden. And so to me, that means Cliff was,
00:45:06.360
he didn't sound downtrodden, but something was wrong with him at the time. Maybe already, or maybe he was just upset.
00:45:12.040
Um, and he was talking about how LBJ's, um, you know, health and he wasn't LBJ wasn't doing good.
00:45:20.600
And LBJ obviously died not long after this in 1973. Um, you know, I presume natural causes,
00:45:29.320
but a lot of those folks, whether it was, um, Ed Clark, another name or J Edgar Hoover,
00:45:39.400
Yeah. So did Cliff, Cliff didn't know he was being recorded obviously. Right.
00:45:45.720
Or you don't know. I wish I knew. Okay. And I'm, I don't, to me, it seems like he would have known.
00:45:57.240
Yeah. It seems like he would have known. Yeah. I mean, we'll let the people decide for themselves,
00:46:02.120
but he does say on the tape, you know, he, he implicates very directly Johnson, uh, to the
00:46:09.160
assassination. It's like, that's not something you would say in a passing conversation. And in my,
00:46:13.080
in my feeling, like you probably know that he had to put it on, on the tape, but that's just me
00:46:17.800
speculating. Do you want to hear it? You, I mean, do you want to hear it live right now? Cause I'm
00:46:20.920
going to edit it in. Oh, okay. All right. Well, there you go. Let me get it played. Can you hear it?
00:46:25.720
Sure. Good to see you. How's life treating you today? Well,
00:46:29.880
Sal, it's been pretty touch and go situation. Lyndon and I've had quite a few unpleasant words here
00:46:37.560
lately over the deal with, that he hired Mark Wallace to assassinate the president. It's been
00:46:47.240
hectic in every way, but, uh, we've lived through it this far. I guess we'll continue to do so.
00:46:55.720
Uh, Lyndon should have never issued that order, uh, to Mike, but we've had our differences and
00:47:06.920
I'm a true blue to Lyndon as I've always been and tried to carry out every order that he's ever given
00:47:12.440
me. But this is one I'll probably never be able to forget. And the times that we've had in, in Texas
00:47:24.600
and the embarrassment that Lyndon had gotten from Kennedy, I guess there wasn't anything else to do,
00:47:33.880
but, but what he did. Well, you know, Lyndon could have really hit me if he would.
00:47:43.240
Well, Lyndon's the kind of person that doesn't want to help anyone. He's, you know, he's all for Lyndon,
00:47:49.320
and that's the way he's pretty much always been. Well, they had me backed up on that Henry Marshall
00:47:55.880
killing and they just kind of blackmailed me to keep my mouth shut. If I hadn't had a bunch of tapes
00:48:01.480
that I played after I got killed, you know, 17 got killed in this situation very mysteriously.
00:48:12.440
And I've done a lot of time and I've lost a lot of money and hurt my family a whole lot.
00:48:17.400
And it's really got me disgusted with Lyndon in one way. In one way, I feel real sorry for him.
00:48:31.480
But I really feel like that in Lyndon's heart, he felt like that he was doing the right thing. He
00:48:37.000
felt like that he was the savior, the common man. I feel like that in his heart, he wanted to help the
00:48:45.080
people that had not. But I don't believe that anything, my church's background would have never
00:48:54.520
let me sanction all the killings that he has done. What do you think about it?
00:49:10.040
Cliff, do you really believe that it could have been handled anyway without killing all these people
00:49:14.440
and got rid of the candidates? Do you think he won the election against him?
00:49:18.280
Well, I don't really believe so. You know, he tried desperately to do just that and there
00:49:26.040
didn't seem to be any other way. I know that he regrets a lot of things that he has done, but still
00:49:35.000
it's been a battle from day one. Well, Darrell, I sure do appreciate all the things that you've done for
00:49:47.000
Boris and I appreciate the trust that he has done for a long time friends.
00:49:54.840
I'm just sorry that I've embarrassed all my friends and put all my friends through this.
00:50:01.160
Oh, you didn't embarrass me. And what I was really afraid of, my brother,
00:50:06.040
Bob, that got killed. Our plane was down at Bryan the day that Mike Wallace killed
00:50:17.560
Henry Marshall. And I was afraid it was going to tie him into the thing and we couldn't afford to. In fact,
00:50:24.040
Pam started to write a book. And when she, she really got scared when she got into the thing. It was just,
00:50:30.280
uh, it was just too scary a deal. But anyhow, this, uh, this too will pass.
00:50:41.640
Well, it's been a long, long old journey. What do you think about, uh, F.O. Bankston?
00:50:47.880
Well, W.O.'s a great leader and he's been probably one of the best things that ever happened in Dallas,
00:50:56.360
Texas. Of course, he's got a lot of, a lot of real good friends. And, and London's been one of his
00:51:05.560
true buddies for many, many years. And anything that he just has to have, W.O. will say that,
00:51:13.000
Well, I just can't believe that F.O. Bankston has the tire over the police department that he has.
00:51:24.040
You know, he buys every year, the sheriff buys him a brand new car, Bill Decker. And I just don't see
00:51:31.880
how politically that, uh, he can get with it. But nobody will ever understand. And really,
00:51:38.920
in the early years, I thought that, uh, Linden really had a mission from a higher power,
00:51:45.480
who I've accused to call God, to carry out a lot of things for the common people. And I really believe
00:51:53.160
in his heart that he thought that he was destined to, uh, rule the people. How do you size up, uh,
00:52:05.080
Well, actually, Linden's, uh, just been kind of going downhill health-wise and politically wise.
00:52:14.200
He's just, uh, wore out. And, uh, I feel like he's come to his end of his rope. But, uh, all these
00:52:24.840
things that's been eating on him for all these years have just now taken his course.
00:52:29.560
And I feel like Linden's done a lot of good things in his life, and he's done a lot of bad things.
00:52:38.440
Well, Cliff, I hate to see you as a downtrodden and so discouraged. And I just hope that you can
00:52:49.320
get a hold of yourself and not be so tore up. But anyhow, let's go in the house and let's have a
00:52:58.440
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It does explain a lot about Lyndon Johnson. It does explain about the, you know, his,
00:54:32.440
the things that he put in play. A lot of them were so good, you know, and he must have been like
00:54:38.760
eaten up with guilt and stuff. And then he did resign. He only, he only served one term, right?
00:54:48.280
Yeah. I don't think he went back in for another time.
00:54:52.200
Yeah. I remember the night on TV that he resigned and everybody was pretty, nobody could believe it.
00:55:01.080
But he, uh, he got us into a, well, a lot of people say it's a lot. I've heard other people say other
00:55:08.920
reasons, you know, they're crazy all the time. A lot of crazy things, uh, saying Israel did it.
00:55:15.640
A lot of these people out there saying, you know, uh, uh, saying George Bush did it on and on. But, uh,
00:55:22.600
so when we get the D class, we'll see, we'll see. Hopefully. Which of it is, uh, true, but I tend to,
00:55:32.680
I tend to go with what you're saying. I bet I, I would bet on it. This is the truth.
00:55:40.680
Yeah. And my suspicion is, I mean, uh, present time to my understanding, you know, in fact, Jake,
00:55:46.600
you're, I mentioned on Alex's show that, um, you know, I'd let probably 40, maybe 50 people listen
00:55:53.080
to it and I'd tell them, I'll let you hear it. I want you to hear it, but please don't share it
00:55:58.680
because supposedly anybody finds out you can get killed and I can't believe I trusted so many people,
00:56:05.160
but nobody shared it, blasted it out on social media, tried to make fame out of it. And you were
00:56:10.760
one of the people that I was talking about. I keep a secret. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But the other,
00:56:19.720
there's another family that's kept secrets and they talk about Mack Wallace. So Mack Wallace was
00:56:26.760
the hit man and they've reached out to me and said, Shane, this whole tape aligns with these stories
00:56:35.480
that we've held as a family and they're not ready to come out and talk. They basically said,
00:56:40.520
let's give it a few weeks or a month. And if you're still alive, they might be willing to go on.
00:56:47.000
So it's kind of fascinating what's happening with that. Um, I've had another call from a gentleman
00:56:53.880
that has a tape, um, that could end up being released. But my suspicion with Trump is that he's
00:57:00.920
got, you know, he had access to all that when he was president the first time he's seen it. He knows
00:57:07.800
what's in there. And my understanding was, you know, I let him hear this tape to try and warn him
00:57:12.840
that they're going to try and kill him. Um, and he didn't, I didn't get anything back saying it was
00:57:19.320
wrong or off. So that's kind of interesting. Um, but this tape is authenticated. If anyone,
00:57:27.880
I can already hear the comments from people listening to show you are the grant. You are who you say you are.
00:57:32.520
That is your grandfather's tape has been ran through and authenticated. If anybody should
00:57:36.200
ask that it is real verifiable. Just want to get that out there. Yeah. And to that. So I didn't
00:57:43.160
spend a lot of time, but I read some of the comments and, you know, one of them is it's AI generated.
00:57:48.200
And first of all, I can tell you, you know, it's on a tiny mini cassette tape and, um, I'm not bringing
00:57:56.360
that tape out to get it validated for another little while. It's at a place wherever people
00:58:01.480
to where if something does happen to me, that thing will still survive. Cause I think it's that
00:58:05.160
important. So it is as time goes by, we'll bring it out and we'll validate that. Um, I've got all the
00:58:13.080
experts that each one of them want to be the one that gets to jump in and help validate it. So we may do
00:58:18.200
it publicly at some point in time. Uh, they play the tape on a mini cassette recorder because AI didn't
00:58:26.200
exist back then. I got the tape probably 2015 and basically Daryl Bright was talking to his daughter,
00:58:34.120
Star Bright, my cousin, and my brother Clay went and picked up the tape, um, brought it over to me.
00:58:41.720
And at the time I had a walk in safe and the safe inside the safe. And then I bought another safe,
00:58:47.720
put inside that safe and I'll put these tapes in it. And so now it's kind of stored in a similar
00:58:53.320
fashion, but anyways, I don't know. I'm rambling. Sorry. Not sure where I'm going with that Roseanne.
00:58:59.960
Well, we're going to be sending you, uh, I'm going to send you some prayers and, uh, you're going to,
00:59:06.280
you know, we're all going to be real protected because it's just the time for that.
00:59:11.720
And it's going to be real good. And the, uh, evil it's their end. You know,
00:59:16.360
I really think it's that time in the world. It's they're done. They know they're done.
00:59:20.760
They might try to pull some crap and, but they're unraveling it, uh, in real time at warp speed.
00:59:29.800
It is they're, they're running for the hills and they're, they're scrambling,
00:59:32.920
probably trying to figure out what they're going to do about it. Um, I thought the election was going
00:59:37.720
to go a lot differently than it did. And obviously I think y'all were up there.
00:59:41.640
I was up there or at the, um, inauguration. So we find them off so far.
00:59:51.000
I don't know what, it seemed like they got something up their sleeve, but, uh,
00:59:55.480
you know, a lot of people praying does something above.
00:59:59.480
It does something above this whole world that they can't control or do anything about.
01:00:04.040
You know, it really does. It's great to see it. And, uh, people know in the truth to people know
01:00:10.600
in the truth that this government, which everybody already knows, but you know, it's, uh, been corrupt
01:00:17.320
for a really long time. When you let people run to enrich themselves, that's what you're going to get.
01:00:24.280
Right. And when you, when you, when you subvert the constitution, that's supposed to be for about
01:00:30.920
the communities of the Republic and make it just about the people who get elected, that's what
01:00:36.440
you're going to get. But, you know, we're going to re we're going to go back to source and live what
01:00:42.920
we thought was the right thing, but we're going to do it this time for real. So
01:00:52.680
you speak the truth about, um, the corruption and every great democracy,
01:00:58.200
every great country, they've all, that's their downfall is, um, absolute power corrupts. Absolutely.
01:01:05.960
And we've had that. We've had people take power that wasn't granted to them,
01:01:10.520
wasn't voted in. And that's where to the American public, even those that are going to doubt it
01:01:16.040
and say it's AI or, um, you know, made up and I'm telling you, I don't have the technical capability
01:01:21.000
to do it. Um, or the desire to put myself out there as a crazy person and, um, damage my reputation
01:01:27.160
as a business guy or, um, deacon, my church, um, you know, just, just entertain yourself a little bit.
01:01:36.520
And even if you are perhaps naive or innocent enough to think that our government is a hundred
01:01:42.360
percent straight arrow, just think about if this is real and they covered this up for this long
01:01:50.680
and what else is there? What else? And that's how you get to figuring out the truth. That's the little
01:01:57.240
breaking point. You may get mad or, you know, um, and disbelief, go through the whole guilt,
01:02:02.680
anger, whatever cycle, but you gotta get, you gotta get through it to realize what's happened
01:02:09.000
in our country. Absolutely. And all, all the, uh, agreed and, uh, and so many seeds were sown
01:02:19.960
in the assassination of JFK. So many seeds planted, so many seeds sown by the same people that are still
01:02:28.280
in, they're still in power. They've never been moved and, uh, their offices haven't been changed
01:02:35.000
or nothing else. So you think about the things that have grown out of that. One of them being
01:02:40.680
Gerald Ford, I think he was the head of that Warren commission and he was the first and only to this
01:02:47.400
point, uh, unelected vice president and president. And, you know, that was.
01:02:54.920
Well, and Biden was also unelected, but that's another story.
01:03:00.440
Well, I mean, at that time they didn't even have to fuss with any election to get him in.
01:03:05.560
And then what he brought as, you know, one, you know, the Republican party is corrupt too.
01:03:12.760
And what he brought was that whole education through Senator Robert S. Byrd, that whole education
01:03:19.960
that's ruined two generations now of American children's ability to think.
01:03:25.480
Yeah. Um, so, you know, all these seeds were planted and they, this, this, uh, group that doesn't
01:03:32.680
want the best for American children or any children or people or living thing on earth, they've been
01:03:41.960
working at this for a long, long time. And you could just go back to the Kennedy assassination and see
01:03:48.440
how things changed or the people, some good, some bad, uh, Johnson, you know, he really put in a lot
01:03:57.560
of civil rights, uh, legislation that, you know, I still consider it to be good, you know, with changing,
01:04:06.760
you know, all the ways they barred black, uh, sovereignty and the ability to vote in fair elections,
01:04:15.080
which, which they're still doing, you know, for all of us now, not, not just one specific color,
01:04:23.720
but the whole damn country anyway. Well, that's going to start a lot of really good conversations.
01:04:31.720
I hope. And, uh, you know, I would like to have more of those conversations with you and thank you
01:04:39.320
so much for coming on and, uh, being on our show today. And, uh, we just love you. We, um,
01:04:48.440
love your wife and we love knowing people like you. You're very brave. And, uh, you know, it was just
01:04:55.000
the time. I like how you give the credit to God for saying, you got to get out there and do it. How
01:05:01.960
that's how I feel too. You got to do it when you get that wake up message. And so you did and,
01:05:09.720
you know, God bless you that you did what you were told to do. And may it be a blessing to everyone
01:05:16.520
who hears it. May it wake them up a little bit more as to seeing they have to take more and more
01:05:21.560
responsibility for themselves, their children, their community, their families, and take a little,
01:05:27.240
the more they take for themselves and that the more they're going to take away from the monsters who
01:05:33.960
gobbled it all up and shouldn't have none of it. Um, and you're certainly welcome. And, uh,
01:05:41.560
just right back at you, you know, you've been a patriot and somebody that's been telling the truth
01:05:47.160
when it was not popular for a long time. And you've received a lot of repercussions from that. You've
01:05:53.000
fought through it and, um, you know, now you're doing well and on top and we're in the middle of
01:05:58.360
a fight of, I truly believe good versus evil. I mean, if we, we believe in God, we believe in Satan
01:06:05.240
and we're in the middle of the fight and you're on the front lines of it. And, and y'all kind of
01:06:10.680
dragging me into it, I guess, as well. But either way, thank you for what we have to drag all the,
01:06:17.160
we have to drag all the, all the people, you know, like, uh, like it says right there in the Bible
01:06:23.160
in these days, any fence sitter is, you know, someone who's sitting on the fence and not choosing
01:06:29.320
good is going to be counted with the evil. If you're not coming with the good, you're helping
01:06:35.720
the evil. So everybody has to do it now because we have to stop this. It's just stupid and ridiculous.
01:06:42.840
And we're not stupid and ridiculous. We want to live and enjoy life.
01:06:48.440
Yeah, we do that. I think, you know, God wants that. He doesn't want his children suffering and
01:06:53.400
struggling unhappy. He wants, we all want good things for our children. Um, you want good things
01:06:58.520
for Jake. Jake wants good things for his youngsters. So I think it's about to get good, but you're,
01:07:04.600
if we stick together as a team and more people will stand up, I mean, there's so many people,
01:07:09.080
so much money sitting there that have been just cowed down under, um, DEI initiatives and their
01:07:15.080
corporations making them do things, but they don't have a choice because they need the money. Like
01:07:19.400
people got to start standing up for what's right. And that's, what's going to make a difference.
01:07:26.120
I just want to say that people are, but you know, it's funny when corporations start,
01:07:31.800
uh, telling everybody talking about, uh, democracy, that makes me laugh because they're the last
01:07:39.240
democratic thing in the world, a corporation where you can be fired for any reason and they don't have
01:07:45.320
to give you that reason at any time. They're nothing having to do with any kind of freedom, you know,
01:07:51.640
so they, they should just take their stuff out of that convo. I think they're irrelevant to it.
01:07:58.280
Well, can I say something real quick? I love what you said, mom, about so many seeds
01:08:04.200
were sown with this assassination. This has been something I've been fascinated with my entire life,
01:08:08.120
but what's really fascinating now that this stuff's finally coming out and this, the, the D class is
01:08:13.000
coming in your tape, Shane, like it's pretty much painted a clear picture of what a lot of us already
01:08:16.760
kind of thought or not. But the point is if the government can do that, if the CIA could do that,
01:08:22.760
Eisenhower warned about these people before Kennedy even assumed office about the military
01:08:26.920
industrial complex, we see the storyline. Here we are in 2025. Now we've been through COVID. We've
01:08:32.760
been through the DOJ against Trump, what they did then they are still doing now. And a lot of people
01:08:39.080
are waking up to that and this will help, even though it was 60 years ago or whatnot. That's why
01:08:44.120
it's so important. The blueprint is there and the coverups and the disinfo and the way that they went
01:08:48.760
for the media, the way they attacked us, they call it, they call this conspiracy theories. They do
01:08:52.360
that now to us. It's the same. You know what also, it also was, if you think about it,
01:08:58.680
he was assassinated on television and the guy who assassinated him was assassinated on television.
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Yeah, it is futuristic. Were they covering every place Kennedy went to visit where he
01:10:39.000
let the top down? No. I mean, you know, it was a, it was a mass mind control event too.
01:10:50.760
Trump and Butler. That was the first time CNN ever aired a Trump rally and he was shot ahead.
01:10:56.280
Right. I mean, like I said, that plan they did now, they're doing all.
01:10:59.800
When they, when they, when they do a trauma on mass media, they immediately come into program. The two
01:11:09.480
go together. Mass trauma, mass mind control. The two things happen together. So they, they do something
01:11:17.720
and then they, they do it with repeated message. So after we've had this horror in, in the, you know,
01:11:24.920
back East with the Black Hawk and the plane, watch for that repeated message on media now,
01:11:35.320
because that was a trauma, unexplained trauma where what the Black Hawk went after,
01:11:42.120
they went after a domestic flight. What? And now they're going to mass mind control. They're going
01:11:49.240
to mass program us because of, to get us to see it, not as it happened, but what it means symbolically
01:11:57.880
in their alternate universe of symbology that has nothing to do with you, me, life or death or our money.
01:12:04.840
Right. And as y'all were going through, I had two different thoughts. One was in regards to
01:12:13.560
kind of controlling the narrative and with Trump. And then the second thing was in regards to what
01:12:19.560
you were saying, Jake, as far as where this came from and where it stemmed from. And if we have time
01:12:27.480
or if y'all are okay with that, I'd like to speak to both of them. But the first one that you're talking
01:12:31.880
about is, uh, you know, going back to the sixties and I think it really goes way back to the founding
01:12:37.640
of the federal reserve and then some other stuff in the forties, but this, what the other, there's
01:12:44.520
only two things God's told me about it. One, when it was time, um, and that the truth shall set us free,
01:12:50.680
really not you, but us like as a country. And then the other thing was we have to pull this from the
01:12:56.920
roots. So everybody's been fighting really hard, even the last, um, decade, um, two decades trying
01:13:04.760
to attack at different angles and, you know, individual politicians and whatnot. We're not
01:13:09.880
going to clean it up unless we go back to where it came from and pull that out. So cash Patel,
01:13:16.600
a lot of these folks, they're going to have their hands full trying to deal with unraveling that level
01:13:21.720
of power. Um, we've got to fight because if they've had that much power already, they're not
01:13:28.680
going to want to let go of it. People do not let go of their, um, greed money machines and their power
01:13:35.080
easily. So a hundred percent with you. And that's part of why I believe it's so important. Um, but then
01:13:42.920
on the, uh, Trump attempt, that first assassination, I'd actually met with Mike Waltz and, um, basically,
01:13:51.640
shared here was the playbook of what they did on Kennedy. I was like, here's what you need to,
01:13:59.000
we need to look at and see if this actually occurred on the Trump deal. And I think there's
01:14:05.880
a lot more to be shown on it. Um, but Mike was the only one out of that entire committee that was
01:14:10.760
investigating it that said, no, I don't think this is what happened. He didn't even go to Butler with
01:14:15.640
him. Um, I haven't got to talk to him since I'm not connected with him. I don't know him, but I respect
01:14:20.680
him because he stood up when nobody else would. Um, they followed the, the footprint. And I've
01:14:27.480
kind of mapped it out of, you know, find a patsy, find somebody who won't speak, make sure you kill
01:14:31.720
them on and on and on. If you compare the similarities, it's eerie. It's uncanny.
01:14:38.520
That's what I'm saying in every level. And that's why it's so important because it's,
01:14:42.520
that's why history, if you don't, what is it? Those who don't learn from history are doing to repeat it.
01:14:47.160
You might've, you might actually get to teach us history with these tapes and that's,
01:14:51.080
that'll save all of us. Well, it is history. Cause it's like,
01:14:54.840
you know, the first time we get to hear, uh, the voices, that's cool.
01:15:00.680
Very cool. If it's not AI, that is of course. Yeah. They had AI back there 60 years ago,
01:15:06.520
but, uh, on those old tapes. Yeah. Protect that tape, man. Well, um, a lot to think about,
01:15:14.360
a lot to talk about, a lot to, uh, real lot to think about my, you might want to watch this
01:15:20.520
episode a couple of times. I know I will. Absolutely. Thank you so much for being on
01:15:25.240
here. We want you to come back and we'll get into even more things. Cause if you're listening to
01:15:30.760
God tell you what to do, then let's have a convo on that because that about drives me out of my mind
01:15:37.560
that how many people are not doing that. So let's talk about that next time. Excellent.
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