The Roseanne Barr Podcast - ＂No water coming out of fire hydrants＂ Lahaina Rep Elle Cochran ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #037

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00:01:00.260 Greetings, humans and earthlings, and any animals who may be listening in from the animal kingdom

00:01:07.100 to the sound of my melodious and fantastic speaking voice here today on the Roseanne Barr podcast.

00:01:15.200 And speaking of the natural world and its wonders, I have an interesting guest on with me today.

00:01:22.340 Her name is Ellie Cochran, and she is from the Hawaii State House of Representatives.

00:01:34.800 Am I right?

00:01:35.900 Yes, correct.

00:01:36.800 So you see, my patience is growing.

00:01:45.180 Well, and you are in Lahaina, right?

00:01:49.860 I am.

00:01:50.840 Yes.

00:01:51.760 Where I am born and raised and represent.

00:01:54.240 And how many generations you go back there with your family?

00:01:59.980 Actually, my family is originally from Oahu.

00:02:03.620 So I'm just pretty much the first generation here in Lahaina.

00:02:09.160 Yeah.

00:02:09.360 But are you a pure-blood Hawaiian person?

00:02:15.520 No.

00:02:16.660 No.

00:02:17.140 I'm half Okinawan and half Filipino, Visayan.

00:02:20.740 Oh, wow.

00:02:21.640 No.

00:02:22.620 That's good to know.

00:02:24.140 Yeah.

00:02:24.520 Because there's so many of all kinds of Asian and people here.

00:02:30.880 Yes.

00:02:31.100 But I always like to ask because I love the mixture here.

00:02:36.360 It's so beautiful.

00:02:37.720 And the food's so great.

00:02:39.680 Yeah.

00:02:40.080 But the horror of Lahaina was the first place I ever visited once I got famous and had some money.

00:02:49.740 You know, and everybody, of course, wants to go to Hawaii.

00:02:54.260 And that's where I went in Lahaina and Maui.

00:02:58.660 And, you know, when I look out my front door here in Hawaii, I can see Maui.

00:03:06.240 So always, you know, it's in my vision.

00:03:09.580 I'm always thinking of it.

00:03:10.900 What a beautiful island.

00:03:12.020 What beautiful people.

00:03:13.700 How nice everybody is. 0.87

00:03:16.440 Some crazies.

00:03:17.440 But how nice and hospitable and everything.

00:03:21.260 Everybody is on the islands everywhere.

00:03:23.180 But there for me for many years until I came here and things are wonderful here too.

00:03:30.260 But, oh, it just broke my heart to hear of the horror, tragedy, and terror of what happened.

00:03:40.480 And so, you know, I want to hear it first person from you.

00:03:44.560 So I'm giving you the full speech, please.

00:03:48.720 Yeah.

00:03:49.020 And thank you so much for having me and wanting to, you know, hear my voice.

00:03:54.300 I guess my take on what had occurred.

00:03:57.200 I, again, have been born and raised here in Lahaina.

00:03:59.820 So the destruction of the entire town in front of my eyes, you know, taken by fire at first was very numbing.

00:04:07.860 I mean, like disbelief in what I was experiencing and seeing.

00:04:12.680 Then, obviously, you know, it sets in and it is definitely devastating, traumatic, and all the words that you can describe that type of feeling.

00:04:24.540 But I literally.

00:04:25.200 Well, where were you?

00:04:26.680 Where were you when you first became aware of, you know, the, you know, overwhelming devastation?

00:04:34.260 Well, there was a fire above me.

00:04:37.860 So I'm just below the Lahaina Luna High School.

00:04:41.260 So up Lahaina Luna Road where the big L is on the mountainside.

00:04:44.500 I'm just below that.

00:04:46.240 So just above me, there was a fire early in the morning.

00:04:50.320 So it was on the news.

00:04:51.760 Oh, fire.

00:04:52.980 It's contained.

00:04:53.860 All good.

00:04:54.660 But schools are closed.

00:04:56.440 So that's what I saw.

00:04:58.480 And it was really, really windy.

00:05:00.080 I went outside.

00:05:00.920 I was trying to clean up the yard.

00:05:02.680 Got too windy.

00:05:03.420 I came back in the house.

00:05:04.720 I went down and took a nap and I woke up to the smell of smoke, really bad, thick smoke.

00:05:11.120 So I got up and I walked around my home going, we're fire.

00:05:15.000 I thought they contained it.

00:05:16.460 Then I just noticed that my neighbors are all gone.

00:05:19.920 Like there was no cars on the streets.

00:05:21.600 I'm like, well, where is everybody?

00:05:23.440 So I drove down the road and that's when I just saw a block down the entire street.

00:05:28.680 Just fire.

00:05:29.700 All the homes just a block down from you were up in flames.

00:05:33.040 And at the time, I didn't even think, I mean, possibly people's lives, you know, were in those homes.

00:05:40.000 But I saw the fire truck, the firemen, and they were trying to, you know, hook up to the fire hydrant.

00:05:47.320 I had the fire chief's cell phone in my house.

00:05:51.840 So I called him directly and I said, you know, chief, I'm up at Kilauea Mauka.

00:05:56.980 This is the subdivision I live in.

00:05:58.660 I go, do we need to evacuate?

00:06:01.240 And he was on vacation.

00:06:02.840 I didn't realize he wasn't even on the island.

00:06:04.980 He was in Colorado at the time.

00:06:06.420 So I called him.

00:06:07.980 It was 3.58 p.m.

00:06:10.720 Because I checked my phone records.

00:06:12.680 And I said, chief, do I need, do we need to evacuate?

00:06:15.740 He said, why?

00:06:16.940 I said, because there's a really big fire.

00:06:20.200 And he said, let me call you right back.

00:06:21.980 So he hung up and called me back with, it was a 4.05 p.m. around there.

00:06:30.020 And he said, yes, you need to evacuate.

00:06:32.100 I said, it is gridlocked up here.

00:06:34.320 And he goes, well, we'll get police up here to direct traffic.

00:06:37.880 I go, it's too late.

00:06:39.860 When in front of me, I saw the firemen leave their hoses, jump in their truck and leave.

00:06:44.540 So I thought, well, they're not here to find the fire anymore.

00:06:47.660 I'm out of here.

00:06:48.720 So I went back home, grabbed my dogs, packed up a suitcase, and I drove out.

00:06:53.100 And already down my road, the homes are already up in flames.

00:06:58.320 Cars were up in flames.

00:07:01.440 I'm driving out.

00:07:02.680 Fireballs are flying through the air, landing all around me.

00:07:06.300 I got into the thickest, blackest smoke and couldn't see a thing in front of me.

00:07:11.080 But I knew the road was straight, so I just kept driving straight.

00:07:14.780 And the winds just blew that thick smoke away.

00:07:17.600 So I now saw the road and drove out onto the bypass, line of bypass, and came up onto that.

00:07:24.480 On the hillside, I could look back, and that's when the whole town of Mahaina was going up in flames in front of my eyes.

00:07:32.500 So I was clear of the fire at this point, but just watching this in front of me was just, I didn't even know what to think at that time.

00:07:42.220 So continued up on the bike.

00:07:44.980 Were you shocked at the in, whatever the word is, just the in, not in action, whatever the word is, where nobody's expecting this to happen is ill-prepared.

00:07:57.100 That's the word.

00:07:58.140 Were you shocked at how ill-prepared the entire government and island and everybody in it was?

00:08:05.220 Yeah, and you know, the unfortunate part, back in 2018, we had Hurricane Lane.

00:08:11.740 And at that time, we had a fire pop up, too, in the same area, right above my home.

00:08:17.120 And at that time, I felt we could have started preparing, right?

00:08:21.880 We already saw a glimpse of what could occur.

00:08:24.780 And yet, I don't know.

00:08:26.580 I think there were fire plans, what have you, and none of it had been-

00:08:29.280 You know how many people went to city council in 2018?

00:08:33.700 Yeah.

00:08:33.900 Because, you know, I got all political over here.

00:08:37.180 But in 2018, they were going and saying, you've got to address the water and the fire thing in Lahaina.

00:08:44.680 Yes.

00:08:44.820 Because, you know, because of what you said happened.

00:08:47.520 And they just blew them all off.

00:08:49.140 And then, you know how they just kind of slime them so they go, this person's wacko. 0.97

00:08:55.840 And they were completely prophetic and right on.

00:08:58.940 It's just so sad.

00:09:00.160 The inaction of the people, I don't know what their mentality is, but they certainly do not care to serve the public who pays their salaries at all, do they?

00:09:12.740 Well, at times, yes.

00:09:14.760 I believe that a lot of times they forget, right?

00:09:18.040 We are public servants.

00:09:20.320 The people who pay taxes, that's our salaries.

00:09:24.220 That's our job.

00:09:25.460 They're the voters who get us into these seats.

00:09:27.580 That's who we should be.

00:09:29.400 We ought to be beholden to.

00:09:30.840 But unfortunately, most campaigns are funded by corporations, big money.

00:09:36.640 And that's the special interest who the elected officials are beholden to.

00:09:40.820 I can honestly and openly say that is not how I've gotten into my politics, you know, my seats.

00:09:47.820 I'm grassroots.

00:09:49.040 That's why I don't have a 401k anymore.

00:09:52.080 I fund my own campaigns to get in because I want to be free to represent the people and not special interests and big money.

00:10:01.020 Well, what do you think is the most important thing you could do as far as representing the people of Lahaina is?

00:10:08.460 What is that?

00:10:09.920 To be their voice.

00:10:11.400 To be their voice.

00:10:12.640 To stand up and be their voice.

00:10:14.020 And unfortunately, right, I'm just one voice, but I can continue to be there, be their eyes and ears, be their voice and do the best that I can.

00:10:24.000 I think people understand that I work, I try my hardest, do the best that I can.

00:10:30.280 I am not going to win all the votes or get votes or what have you, you know, but they know that I'm there at least to speak up, you know, to share their voice.

00:10:39.000 But like working on water rights is like the most important thing or like what kind of legislation are you behind for the people?

00:10:48.540 Well, I mean, right now with the if we're going to talk about our fire survivors, you know, the the rents are out of control.

00:10:56.480 Housing is non-existent.

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00:11:27.640 And you mentioned water.

00:11:30.420 Water is key.

00:11:32.160 That's the number one thing that anybody here in this entire state from governor on down can focus on and take care of.

00:11:40.180 It's not going to cost anybody money.

00:11:42.140 And I don't know why they're not talking about it.

00:11:44.300 Because none of all the vacant lands surrounding me and Lahaina cannot be built because there's no water.

00:11:50.960 I mean, there's water that we need to reallocate.

00:11:53.360 They need to decide who gets designated what.

00:11:55.880 And because that's the first thing I did.

00:11:58.660 I asked all the owners of all the vacant lands around us.

00:12:02.900 And the number one thing they said is, Ellie, we would love to build, but we have no water.

00:12:07.920 So I, but look at it this way.

00:12:11.720 The water source is above me, right below Lahaina Luna.

00:12:15.560 And we lost 3,200 subscribers on that water line.

00:12:20.360 So we have more than enough water right now.

00:12:22.680 The county is water dumping per se, but it's the way it's allocated, right?

00:12:28.020 So if we take the water that's not being used from Lahaina because there is no Lahaina, and we put it towards new construction and new housing, when Lahaina gets rebuilt, that water has to be there for Lahaina.

00:12:41.480 So in the meantime, though, for me, it's, it's the number one thing we need to do is reallocate the source.

00:12:49.500 I think so, too.

00:12:51.380 I just spent almost two weeks with no water on my farm here in Hawaii.

00:12:56.820 You know, which I've already had to sue the county so many times, you wouldn't even believe it.

00:13:02.220 And then somebody told me after 10 years, hey, you own the whole ditch.

00:13:06.940 But I said, what?

00:13:09.160 But, but I don't even know.

00:13:12.420 It's got so many regulations and layers that you can't even.

00:13:15.640 But, but yeah, we couldn't even flush a toilet or wash a dish or water a plant for 10 days.

00:13:21.200 And they said they finally found a leak.

00:13:24.140 But, you know, we're in a private orchard.

00:13:28.440 What do you call it, Jake?

00:13:29.820 Combo, not combo.

00:13:31.720 Yeah, I don't know.

00:13:33.700 Like an HOA, yeah.

00:13:35.780 Like an HOA association.

00:13:37.740 Some people at the top, they, I don't know for sure, but they don't never run out of water.

00:13:45.020 Right.

00:13:46.280 Well, they're probably taking.

00:13:47.380 So you've got to worry about farms, huh?

00:13:49.620 Yeah.

00:13:50.260 Well, so, you know, water is a public trust, right?

00:13:53.420 It's, it's, no one should own water per se, right?

00:13:56.900 Right.

00:13:57.240 It's the transmission of that public trust, right?

00:14:01.200 It's the transmission of it.

00:14:02.840 So the waters fall from the sky, go down the stream, you know, you know, fill up our aquifers.

00:14:09.740 But if you tap in with the well, now you are drawing that source out, goes into your well,

00:14:15.380 you pump it up into your pipes, you irrigate.

00:14:17.840 That's your water source now, right?

00:14:19.780 But per se, the water itself is not owned by anybody.

00:14:22.860 It's how it's being brought in.

00:14:24.480 So you have a ditch system.

00:14:26.380 The water in your ditch is bringing it to you and your orchards.

00:14:30.560 That's your right.

00:14:32.280 Right.

00:14:32.420 But, but, but I've got no way of getting it up the hill.

00:14:36.700 It's crazy.

00:14:37.460 Well, the people at the top are, to me, sounds like they're taking their, more than their

00:14:42.640 fair share.

00:14:43.720 That happens here too.

00:14:45.820 Right?

00:14:46.360 They're taking too much of their fair share, thereby you and the bottom of the line aren't

00:14:53.840 getting anything.

00:14:55.020 That happens here too.

00:14:56.060 That's what their fair share means, right?

00:14:58.700 Their fair share means all of it.

00:15:01.200 That's it.

00:15:01.740 Right.

00:15:02.240 And so people need to, they, yeah, they need to be called out on it.

00:15:06.780 And this is where steam works.

00:15:08.180 The horror of Lahaina, I thought was about the water because.

00:15:11.620 That's what I want to talk about.

00:15:12.560 It is.

00:15:12.620 I thought water stuff to irrigate my stuff, you know, and I knew what they were doing.

00:15:17.280 You know, I bet, you know, I don't want to say anything nasty, but you know, you kind

00:15:22.080 of wonder how many golf courses they diverted that water to. 0.96

00:15:25.240 It's not, it's not, it's history.

00:15:29.340 It's the history of our waters.

00:15:31.180 So once upon a time, Lahaina was the Venice of the Pacific, the Venice.

00:15:35.620 Canal Street down by the Banyan Tree was once a canal.

00:15:39.500 Okay.

00:15:39.780 There were ponds, there were, water was filled everywhere.

00:15:43.760 And then it got diverted by the plantations, right?

00:15:47.220 It got diverted and plantations turned into hotel resorts.

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00:18:28.440 No, it's the truth, though.

00:18:30.140 It's the history.

00:18:30.880 I'm not making anything up.

00:18:32.080 I'm not exaggerating.

00:18:33.140 It's the flat, flat proof of the matter.

00:18:36.440 I have to say that Ka'anapali Golf First does utilize our recycled water, our R1 water, which

00:18:45.080 is excellent.

00:18:46.520 They use a lot of pesticides, but they use our recycled water.

00:18:50.440 So that's a good thing.

00:18:51.340 So, yeah, I think that just the whole dryness of Lahaina goes back hundreds, you know, 150,

00:18:59.300 160 years ago when the plantations, you know, came in, diverted, and then they monocropped,

00:19:07.380 right?

00:19:07.620 They grew pineapple and cane, and then they just left the black plastic and the pesticide

00:19:12.880 ridden land and nothing else.

00:19:15.100 And here's what we got, right?

00:19:18.960 Then the fallow grass grew, dried up.

00:19:22.480 That became fuel for the fire.

00:19:25.000 And it just, it's the historical background that just added up, I think it's just a lot

00:19:30.880 of, you know, components that came together.

00:19:33.240 It's the perfect storm, per se.

00:19:34.760 It really was.

00:19:36.100 That day.

00:19:37.400 I like that you say it's just history.

00:19:40.040 And of course, it is just history.

00:19:43.080 Now, what are we doing?

00:19:45.100 The state, I mean, I've been talking until I'm blue in the face.

00:19:51.200 I've been trying to get meetings with Sea Worm, which is the Commission on Water Resources

00:19:56.980 Commission.

00:19:58.020 They have all the, you know, they call the shots on the water, right?

00:20:02.340 They have litigations, all this stuff.

00:20:04.260 But we all need to come to the table and figure this out once it's raw.

00:20:08.080 Yes, we do.

00:20:08.500 We can't just say, oh, it's tied up in litigation.

00:20:11.060 It's this, it's that.

00:20:12.000 Those are excuses to me.

00:20:13.360 We need to face it, all get in the same room.

00:20:16.160 Is it the governor?

00:20:16.900 Is it the mayor?

00:20:17.640 I don't, whoever.

00:20:19.280 And sit down at a table and walk out of that room with a decision of who gets what water.

00:20:24.360 Because we're not going to get anywhere.

00:20:26.400 And we're going to sit here and suffer with no housing, with no food security, with no

00:20:31.440 anything.

00:20:31.900 So I don't know what else to say and do.

00:20:35.620 Again, I'm the one voice.

00:20:37.240 I'm like the soul, you know, jumping up and down over there.

00:20:41.280 And I just need more people to rally behind me, you know, and put the pressure where it

00:20:46.300 matters, which is what you're really saying is what I've always said for years now, that

00:20:52.040 people have to seize the means of their government at the local level.

00:20:57.380 Yes.

00:20:57.780 Is that right?

00:20:58.860 Yeah, completely agree.

00:21:00.680 That's right.

00:21:01.320 So I was once also a council member for eight years, which is more the local level.

00:21:05.880 Then I moved into the state.

00:21:07.700 I personally love the county council level where you're literally the boots on the ground.

00:21:13.260 I actually get to stay on the island.

00:21:14.940 I represent and be with the people day in and day out, get instant feedback.

00:21:19.640 You know, when you, when you do a law or ordinance or something, the people are going to tell

00:21:23.380 you if they hate it or love it and I want that feedback, that's how I can do my job better.

00:21:28.280 Right.

00:21:28.660 On a whole other island, you're just so disconnected.

00:21:31.660 And I just, it blows my mind that I can't hire somebody here as a liaison.

00:21:36.040 Like why?

00:21:37.420 You know?

00:21:37.840 So it just, a lot of this stuff doesn't make sense, especially on the state level.

00:21:42.840 Well, you're a sense maker, which is what everybody in the whole U.S. of A needs or leaders that

00:21:50.460 make some sense of the common people who do all the work and also pay all the taxes and

00:21:57.300 also do all the voting.

00:21:59.740 That's right.

00:22:00.140 You know, we just need to have some senses.

00:22:02.780 Yeah.

00:22:03.200 I don't forget that.

00:22:04.580 It's always at the forefront.

00:22:06.640 Yes.

00:22:06.860 Go ahead, Jake.

00:22:08.100 Yeah.

00:22:08.320 So going back to the actual fires, because I'm sure you followed, there were conspiracy theories,

00:22:12.320 Oliver.

00:22:12.660 We covered a lot of them on the show.

00:22:13.940 We had our own.

00:22:15.580 I don't really want to get into that with you, but I do want to say from what I do remember,

00:22:20.480 when the fires started, there was a water allocation problem that wasn't necessarily

00:22:24.680 just lack of water.

00:22:26.520 There was some brief hold on the water and it confused us mainlanders.

00:22:31.900 And that's one of the things I want to ask you since you were here, you know, me and my

00:22:35.000 mom, we spread stories and today we're like, let's not put our stuff on it.

00:22:39.980 Let's talk to someone that was actually there.

00:22:41.180 When that happened, when the fires were happening, you said the firemen plugged up their hoses

00:22:44.540 and left.

00:22:45.200 There was something that told them not to bring the water, right?

00:22:48.540 That spurned a bunch of conspiracies.

00:22:50.280 Was that just bad management or is there something we don't know?

00:22:53.440 Or what did you see on the ground?

00:22:55.200 Like the governor put a hold on it.

00:22:57.720 That's what it looked like.

00:22:58.300 I saw no water coming out of the, I saw no water coming out of the fire hydrants in front

00:23:03.160 of my eyes.

00:23:03.720 That's why the firemen left their hoses and drove off.

00:23:06.580 There was no fire.

00:23:07.460 There was no water to fight the fire literally in front of me.

00:23:10.460 It was trickling, spurting out of the fire hydrant.

00:23:13.260 What I was told after, I was like, what the hell?

00:23:16.240 And the water, like I said, right up the hill for me is the wastewater, is the water treatment

00:23:21.520 plant for Maui County.

00:23:22.940 When our only source of a line is right above me.

00:23:26.020 And it went down.

00:23:28.240 I guess the wind, the electric was shut down, whatever it is.

00:23:31.400 But how is it that our only water source has no redundancy, has no backup generator, has

00:23:37.600 no backup what?

00:23:39.120 Solar?

00:23:40.060 Fine as possible as sun.

00:23:41.500 There's a solar farm right next to the fricking building.

00:23:44.740 Like what, what happened there?

00:23:46.760 You know?

00:23:47.380 And I don't know.

00:23:49.100 There were other things too.

00:23:50.260 There was no water.

00:23:51.840 But there was other mishandling.

00:23:54.520 Right?

00:23:55.060 Well, I mean, no sirens.

00:23:57.080 Right?

00:23:58.060 That would have helped if we had sirens.

00:24:00.200 I would have woken up.

00:24:01.840 Right?

00:24:02.120 I would have woken up and been-

00:24:03.540 Yeah, you weren't waiting to know anything was going on.

00:24:06.500 I didn't know.

00:24:07.300 I kind of heard some muffly, like the police was going by.

00:24:11.500 You know, I'm like, what was that?

00:24:14.280 That's why I went outside of and then called fire chief to say, what's going on?

00:24:18.900 So no sirens, no water.

00:24:21.480 Was there anything else you noticed?

00:24:23.560 Again, I mean, they weren't helping anybody to evacuate either.

00:24:28.520 That's what we heard.

00:24:29.540 And I mean, there was no, no, no electric.

00:24:32.500 So there was no internet.

00:24:33.940 There was no TV.

00:24:35.000 There was no nothing.

00:24:35.960 There was, it was the matter of walking outside and looking around and going, what's going

00:24:39.940 on?

00:24:40.260 And I think people who were in the heart of Lahaina, you know, where the old mill camp, 0.99

00:24:46.640 we call it, where the pioneer mill, the stack is back in there, it was, it's the original

00:24:51.620 camps, right?

00:24:52.740 For the, for the mill workers.

00:24:54.100 And the roads are tiny.

00:24:55.720 The houses are, are, you know, back to back on top of each other and tiny roads in there,

00:25:01.780 there was no outlet.

00:25:03.200 And it, you know, and when one caught, that was it.

00:25:07.660 And I think a lot of people there didn't really understand what was happening.

00:25:11.080 That wind, if it wasn't for the wind, this fire wouldn't have been as bad.

00:25:15.140 I guarantee that.

00:25:16.980 The wind was horrendous.

00:25:19.180 Again, I've been here for 59 years.

00:25:21.740 People who've lived here much longer than myself said they've never seen winds this strong.

00:25:26.780 So how did that happen?

00:25:28.980 You know, and they said it was the tail end of the hurricane, what, 600 miles away or something

00:25:33.620 it was.

00:25:34.480 I don't, but we have a wind here in Lahaina called Kauaula.

00:25:38.920 It's when the wind comes down the valley of Kauaula and it's taken out.

00:25:43.700 My church is Waiola.

00:25:44.900 We just celebrated 200 years.

00:25:47.760 A couple of times the wind had come down so strong and blew our church down.

00:25:51.580 So this wind to me felt like that wind.

00:25:55.480 And it was again, that perfect storm with the wind and the dryness and no water and what

00:26:00.960 have you that just, you know, exacerbated.

00:26:03.680 But, but the other weird thing, and again, I don't, you know, I'm not conspiracy theorist

00:26:09.920 or anything either, but what's odd is, check this out though.

00:26:14.120 I just wanted to share real briefly.

00:26:16.820 I was going back at some of my old emails from my office and it was about three months

00:26:22.800 before this fire occurred.

00:26:24.240 A gentleman sent me an email telling me that he believes they're spraying things in the

00:26:28.960 sky, right?

00:26:30.040 The color of the sun has changed.

00:26:31.640 The sky color changed.

00:26:32.800 And I kind of noticed that myself, but didn't really think much about it.

00:26:37.020 And so then this is three months before the fire comes.

00:26:40.960 So then, right.

00:26:41.900 Conspiracy theories were saying there was almost like an accelerant that seemed like it was

00:26:46.180 sprayed across the town on the buildings, on whatever, whatever.

00:26:50.640 So I'm like now thinking back to this guy's email that was three months before the fire.

00:26:56.240 And then thinking about the talk, the days after the fire, I'm like, well, is there a connection?

00:27:03.860 I don't know.

00:27:05.260 But it's really odd that, that, that, and I remembered thinking the, the, the, the sunsets

00:27:12.900 look different.

00:27:13.600 The sky color is different.

00:27:15.560 The, you know, the morning sky, just, I just thought, well, you know, I don't know.

00:27:21.160 Atmosphere changes.

00:27:22.220 I don't know, but who knows.

00:27:24.400 Right.

00:27:24.960 But we can't.

00:27:25.900 I don't think we'll ever know.

00:27:27.520 But again, I want to pretend.

00:27:30.420 You can say what you see.

00:27:31.920 You just say what you see.

00:27:33.240 Is that pretty much, is this, are you the only person in your circle that's kind of

00:27:37.840 seeing these things going, that's a little strange, or is it when you're talking to people

00:27:41.340 on the ground, do they see it as well?

00:27:43.340 That had, those talks have been going on, you know, early on days, weeks after the fire,

00:27:50.220 I had all sorts of, you know, people's, you know, thoughts of what had occurred.

00:27:55.700 Um, but this one email that I just saw a couple of days ago kind of brought back, like, well,

00:28:01.620 wait a minute now, maybe there is something to it.

00:28:04.640 I don't know.

00:28:05.720 I know a lot of people from Lahaina are coming over here to Hilo.

00:28:09.920 That's what's happening on the big island.

00:28:12.220 A lot of, yeah, a lot of people are, you know, from Lahaina coming over there to Hilo.

00:28:17.100 They're dispersing all over.

00:28:18.840 I heard about 1500 people have left Lahaina.

00:28:22.500 You know, I'm going to say this.

00:28:24.440 I have the feeling from day one that things have been, whether it's on purpose or not,

00:28:30.240 I don't know.

00:28:30.800 But the bottom line is people can't wait.

00:28:33.440 It feels like things are moving so slow.

00:28:36.140 Is it on purpose?

00:28:37.400 Isn't it?

00:28:37.860 I don't know.

00:28:38.660 But because of that fact, people can't hold out.

00:28:41.780 You know, they, people just got back on their feet from COVID.

00:28:45.200 Now this, everything got ripped out from under them again.

00:28:48.280 They just don't have it in them, whether it's financially, just mentally, spiritually,

00:28:52.800 anything left to do it all over again, you know?

00:28:56.780 And, and I don't blame people, but for me, it's like, this is what government's supposed

00:29:00.540 to be here for, to help.

00:29:02.880 I mean, bazillion dollars have come into this town.

00:29:05.640 I'm looking around going, well, where the hell is it?

00:29:08.160 And you haven't built one home, not one permanent home.

00:29:11.960 Everyone's talking about temporary, this temporary, that I get it.

00:29:15.700 FEMA only funds temporary.

00:29:18.920 Well, Ma, you know, we talked about it earlier in this show, when the last ad we did about

00:29:22.740 being in debt and we talked about credit card debt and all the normal debt, but there's

00:29:26.820 other kinds of debt, as you know.

00:29:28.700 And one that seems to be popping up a lot now is owing back taxes because the IRS has

00:29:35.120 been militarized almost by the Biden administration.

00:29:39.500 They have like 87,000 new agents with guns and they're coming after people that full

00:29:44.200 money.

00:29:44.660 So that's a new thing.

00:29:45.440 That's going to be pretty scary as you are an American going forward.

00:29:49.700 So, you know, Ma, I don't think you owe any back taxes, but you can imagine.

00:29:53.520 I hope not.

00:29:54.920 I probably do.

00:29:56.020 I mean, if they put their spectacles on anybody, I'm sure they can come up with ways to squeeze

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00:30:35.580 So that's good that we have somebody on the side of the regular people.

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00:31:36.820 But you know what?

00:31:38.140 That's no excuse.

00:31:40.140 We need to start getting people back on their land. 1.00

00:31:42.800 And I'm grateful that I still have my home.

00:31:45.520 I moved back to my home three days in.

00:31:48.180 Came back.

00:31:48.800 I had no water.

00:31:50.080 I cleaned my I got everything.

00:31:52.120 My refrigerators are going my original ones because I came right back and I cleaned them.

00:31:56.340 And, and, you know, I got spa, I got my yard, I got my everything's good.

00:32:02.440 And, um, you know, others not so lucky.

00:32:05.920 I get it, but I think we could be moving a lot quicker.

00:32:09.580 And because I was infrastructure chair for eight years with the county council, I know

00:32:14.280 a lot about our Lahaina infrastructure.

00:32:16.280 And I know that we could, my, my thought, and this is common sense too.

00:32:21.620 I think y'all can understand.

00:32:23.600 So where I live kind of kale loop, there's about a hundred homes, right?

00:32:27.620 That are still intact.

00:32:29.420 Infrastructure is good.

00:32:30.220 We got water potable.

00:32:32.260 We can drink it.

00:32:33.220 It's good to, good to go.

00:32:34.840 We got sewer and we got electric and we got cable.

00:32:38.420 We got everything, all the infrastructure.

00:32:39.840 So go down a block from me, right?

00:32:42.520 That, that rural homes, I said from there caught on fire all the way down to the ocean is gone,

00:32:47.580 but just start clearing those lots, start hooking the infrastructure where it's good.

00:32:53.680 Keep going all the way till you hit the ocean.

00:32:56.260 Just keep, you know, road by road, lot by lot.

00:33:00.500 That's how I see we should be doing things.

00:33:03.140 And I think we're six months later, you know, it seems like they want to chase everybody out.

00:33:11.480 So they have no hope.

00:33:12.360 Yes.

00:33:13.140 And, and that's my, my original thought process was, is this, I was feeling guilt tripped

00:33:19.920 because I came back three days in, right?

00:33:22.840 How dare you, Ellie, come back? 1.00

00:33:25.200 I go, well, I have to bring resources.

00:33:28.220 There's people here too.

00:33:29.360 I got an uncle who has five heart medications.

00:33:32.700 He needs, he got shrapnel in his eye.

00:33:35.140 He needs to have an operation.

00:33:36.840 I got a 90 year old kupuna, uh, auntie down the road. 0.98

00:33:40.780 I got twin one-year-old infant babies here.

00:33:43.680 They need formula diapers and wipes. 0.98

00:33:46.140 Nobody's here to help them.

00:33:47.660 I'm bringing in supplies.

00:33:49.020 Well, how dare you?

00:33:50.340 It's dangerous.

00:33:51.340 The air is bad.

00:33:52.660 Da, da, da, this and that.

00:33:53.560 You're next to the hazardous ash, Ellie.

00:33:55.480 Why are you letting people, the babies live there?

00:33:58.580 The auntie live there.

00:33:59.560 I go, I'm, it's their right.

00:34:02.020 It's my right.

00:34:02.860 This is where I want to live.

00:34:03.860 And they want to live here.

00:34:04.980 I'm not kicking them out.

00:34:06.180 I'm not talking them into leaving their home.

00:34:08.440 The only thing they have left.

00:34:09.920 I go, but I'm going to make sure they're safe and they're healthy as, as long as they

00:34:15.380 want to be here.

00:34:16.280 But I was getting guilt tripped to talk people out of their homes and leave Lahain.

00:34:20.840 And I'm like, I'm not doing it.

00:34:22.600 I'm not leaving.

00:34:23.680 Don't talk me out of getting out of here.

00:34:25.620 I'm just going to make sure everybody's taken care of if they want to stay.

00:34:29.000 And that's what I did.

00:34:30.540 What I've been doing.

00:34:31.640 Well, I applaud you.

00:34:33.420 I think that's, I think that's the difficult, the difficult way to go.

00:34:37.660 But, uh, you know, the heart is often the best.

00:34:41.240 And I think you did the best thing because, you know, the minute you walk away, you know,

00:34:46.320 everything they do is to get you to walk away.

00:34:48.620 I don't know why it happened, but it seems like it's orchestrated at a very high level.

00:34:56.360 I think.

00:34:57.340 It feels that way.

00:34:58.840 It's money.

00:34:59.160 It's more.

00:34:59.780 It's a lot of money.

00:35:00.560 And the insurance, I'm going to say, the majority of issues are with Allstate.

00:35:05.960 Oh, sorry.

00:35:06.940 State Farm.

00:35:07.760 Sorry, Allstate.

00:35:08.600 You've been good.

00:35:09.460 State Farm.

00:35:10.900 People are just being nickel and dimed.

00:35:13.540 They paid their premiums and they're just not getting their fair share to rebuild.

00:35:19.520 You know, and a few of my friends who have money.

00:35:22.360 Isn't that awful that an insurance company would hold back the stuff people paid for?

00:35:29.540 Yeah.

00:35:30.460 Yeah.

00:35:30.820 And it's just not right.

00:35:32.020 And so that needs to be tackled.

00:35:34.000 The other thing is, you know, the whole FEMA will take your house and rent it for $5,000

00:35:41.400 for a studio and $16,000 for a three-bedroom house.

00:35:45.800 How is that really helping any of us?

00:35:48.420 Because when they pull out, these homeowners are going to want to continue to get that type

00:35:53.500 of rent.

00:35:54.520 Who can afford that?

00:35:56.880 Nobody.

00:35:57.740 Even before this, people couldn't afford the rent.

00:36:00.600 Now it's quadrupled, quintupled. 0.87

00:36:02.800 I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:36:04.680 I don't know how any of us are going to survive.

00:36:07.160 We need to rebuild.

00:36:09.060 We need to rebuild the homes that people, lots that people already have and get, you

00:36:15.680 know, new and build on the lands that we were talking about earlier.

00:36:19.680 We need water allocated there to get the infrastructure in to build.

00:36:23.140 You think you have a prayer of getting anything done?

00:36:26.160 You know, I mean, it is a little bit, but I don't think it's the right type of, I don't

00:36:35.640 know, you know.

00:36:37.520 You look like you're kind of burned out and fed up.

00:36:40.900 I do have COVID right now, so I'm probably not up to 100% myself.

00:36:47.040 It's the second time I've gotten COVID.

00:36:48.520 The entire Capitol building is just, yeah, it's a total crisis, COVID building.

00:36:56.660 Anyways, so, you know.

00:36:59.060 Well, when I talked to you last week, you were fired up like this.

00:37:01.540 You were this fired up.

00:37:02.340 You're fired up.

00:37:03.280 You've been dealing with that.

00:37:04.580 Sick or not sick.

00:37:05.740 I got the fire in me to keep going, you know, and it's the people who really, you know,

00:37:12.340 they keep me motivated because that's what I'm here for, and I will always be, and they

00:37:18.340 know that.

00:37:18.820 Whether I'm elected or not, that is what I do.

00:37:21.800 That's what I live for.

00:37:23.120 This is my home.

00:37:23.800 I'm not going anywhere.

00:37:25.220 So nobody's going to kick me out, talk me out of staying, you know, and whatever.

00:37:30.560 Nobody's going to force you out or terrorize you out.

00:37:33.780 No.

00:37:34.120 Or try to, you know, destroy everything you've got to get you out.

00:37:38.940 Well, people try, but it's okay.

00:37:42.340 Go ahead.

00:37:43.840 So, but I'm here to-

00:37:45.300 A lot of the conspiracy theories that started, whether I don't, we don't need to talk about

00:37:49.160 what started it, but one of the things was whatever started it, whether it was coordinated

00:37:52.240 or this perfect storm, that it seems that the machinations are for that land, like my

00:37:57.720 mom said, for that land to be sold or taken over. 0.60

00:38:01.760 Yeah, it's in between the Gordon's Hotel.

00:38:04.060 Yeah, that's prime land for the people with money. 0.89

00:38:06.700 Regardless of how it happened, they're still going to jump on the opportunity, even if

00:38:11.180 they weren't involved.

00:38:11.960 And I'm just going to say that much.

00:38:13.520 What can we do or what can you do to prevent that other than you just staying and doing

00:38:17.420 a homestead at your place with other people?

00:38:19.640 I mean, what can we do?

00:38:20.460 There's things going through the state and it's a horrible, it's horrible stuff.

00:38:26.600 And I think it'll die eventually.

00:38:28.100 But the point is, there's a district that wants to get created.

00:38:34.840 It's called Lele, the Lele District.

00:38:37.920 And it goes from Ma'alaya all the way through Lahaina, heading north towards Ka'anapali area.

00:38:44.580 And then there's a state entity that's supposedly going to be part of the getting the vote.

00:38:55.160 They'll have authority or like an agency that's going to be supposedly Lahaina people voted in

00:39:02.740 to make the decisions for this new created district and blah, blah, blah.

00:39:07.600 It's like, how is that?

00:39:09.000 We already have districts.

00:39:10.320 I'm House District 14.

00:39:11.740 We have the West Maui County Council District.

00:39:15.420 We already have plans in place.

00:39:18.140 We already have the West Maui Community Plan.

00:39:20.460 We have general plans.

00:39:22.160 We have water use and development plans.

00:39:24.820 We have the Lahaina Historic District designation, districts one and two.

00:39:32.360 There's so many things already in place.

00:39:35.440 So why are we now creating this whatever?

00:39:38.960 Maybe because they don't like what you got.

00:39:41.460 And so they want to supplant y'all.

00:39:43.800 Yeah.

00:39:44.580 Basically, they want this entity to take over and make decisions for this whole area.

00:39:49.680 We already have people in place like myself, your council members, and people in place to

00:39:55.640 make decisions.

00:39:56.380 We all do need to get together and start putting our heads.

00:39:59.480 But this new entity, wait a minute, this entity that wants us to plant you and everybody like

00:40:05.160 you, I bet they're corporate and tied up with big money.

00:40:13.800 Well, and here's the odd thing, too.

00:40:16.700 It's just something that came together.

00:40:18.260 So my girlfriend in Oregon, she's watching everything.

00:40:21.160 She used to live in Lahaina and all that.

00:40:22.660 She's a planner, landscape architect.

00:40:26.220 Anyway, she goes, this district that's being created, she goes, it reminds me of Disneyland

00:40:31.860 in California.

00:40:33.080 When Disney went in, right in Anaheim, wherever the hell, and also in Orlando, they kind of

00:40:41.860 like built and made their own district.

00:40:44.540 They like wouldn't listen to state laws, to county laws.

00:40:47.500 They didn't have to obey no laws.

00:40:49.260 They made their own like district.

00:40:50.640 And she goes, this thing reminds me of Disneyland.

00:40:54.420 I'm like, what?

00:40:55.840 And next thing you do, someone told me.

00:40:58.340 No black people live in the Disneyland territories.

00:41:02.540 You knew that, right? 0.60

00:41:04.420 No, I didn't.

00:41:05.840 But someone says this, you know, over in Ko'olin on Oahu, Aulani, that Disney hotel, supposedly

00:41:14.120 that they were talking about wanting to do a big resort Aulani thing here in Lahaina.

00:41:20.640 So is it connected?

00:41:23.180 I'm like, oh, I bet it is.

00:41:24.940 I'm like, oh, my God.

00:41:25.620 Allegedly.

00:41:27.160 Allegedly.

00:41:28.180 I bet it is.

00:41:29.420 It might be something there.

00:41:31.520 Because all of a sudden-

00:41:32.260 You see how they could market that whole Moana thing. 0.96

00:41:35.320 Yeah.

00:41:36.040 Yeah.

00:41:36.300 The Moana Park.

00:41:37.160 Yeah.

00:41:37.680 Ellie, I know this probably doesn't-

00:41:40.460 The Moana Experience Park.

00:41:44.260 Yeah.

00:41:45.180 Right.

00:41:45.900 No, that'll never happen as long as I'm alive.

00:41:48.280 Ellie, I think it's important to mention that you're a Democrat.

00:41:53.020 I know that probably doesn't matter to you as much, but for people listening, because

00:41:55.460 me and my mom get in trouble all the time.

00:41:57.260 Who cares?

00:41:57.280 She's not coming, sir.

00:41:58.740 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:42:00.020 I'm saying you're dealing with the government of Hawaii.

00:42:03.080 You're bringing up stuff about corruption.

00:42:04.820 You're fed up with it.

00:42:05.800 But I just want people to know this isn't a political thing for you, because you're actually

00:42:09.300 calling on a lot of members of your own party.

00:42:10.700 And I think that's really important to get out, that it's not a political ad for you. 0.99

00:42:14.920 Everybody needs to be calling out their assholes at the top of that. 0.99

00:42:18.240 Absolutely. 1.00

00:42:19.300 And she is.

00:42:19.780 So I ran for, I was county council for eight years, so I ran four terms.

00:42:26.500 It's nonpartisan.

00:42:27.760 We don't pick seats as council members.

00:42:30.060 I ran for mayor.

00:42:31.160 You don't pick a seat.

00:42:32.400 You don't pick a party, I mean.

00:42:34.320 Right?

00:42:34.560 Gotcha.

00:42:34.660 So then I ran for state house, but now you got to pick a party.

00:42:38.740 Gotcha.

00:42:39.000 So we are a primarily Democrat state.

00:42:42.440 You're going to get the most votes pulling a Democrat ticket.

00:42:46.280 And I feel like I'm, but you know what?

00:42:48.220 I mean, you can see my hair is purple, right?

00:42:50.000 So red and blue make purple.

00:42:51.880 So I'm a little bit of both, I feel.

00:42:53.620 I mean, half the time I'm going to just say it because I'm just open and transparent.

00:42:58.240 I get along more with the Republicans, you know?

00:43:01.500 I mean, they're just like more real.

00:43:03.200 I think because I'm like the one kind of being, talking about things that people don't want

00:43:08.880 to talk about, because they're the minority, they have to speak loud and bold, you know, 1.00

00:43:14.960 and open and make a strong statement like I typically do.

00:43:19.860 And maybe that's my reason.

00:43:22.300 But, you know, again, me saying I get along with Republicans is like, what the hell's wrong

00:43:27.600 with me?

00:43:28.300 But I don't look at parties and I don't look at colors, you know?

00:43:32.420 And it's like, we're still way past that.

00:43:35.900 We're into trying to get free of slavery, all of us.

00:43:40.220 Yeah.

00:43:40.480 We're trying to get away from this monster that's trying to consume everybody.

00:43:45.720 Right.

00:43:46.240 And, you know, Hawaii is a whole different animal, I feel, from other states in a way,

00:43:51.660 in the sense where not just that we're the remotest landmass in the world, but that our

00:44:00.080 history, you know, of the overthrow and the annexation and everything, that still, for

00:44:07.020 me, carries through today.

00:44:08.800 Right.

00:44:09.040 And people literally look at this land, when they wake up, they're not American per se.

00:44:17.620 They were never asked to be.

00:44:19.340 They were forced into being part of this.

00:44:22.440 And technically, right, we're a military outpost for America, right?

00:44:26.920 Pearl Harbor, perfect outpost, military, all that stuff.

00:44:31.880 And I, you know, again, I'm strictly for the people.

00:44:37.560 And, you know, where was the military actually for the fire?

00:44:41.840 They could have been here.

00:44:42.840 Oh, no, that's what I wondered.

00:44:44.620 You know what made me so mad about that?

00:44:46.880 You can get so much work.

00:44:47.300 Yes, right.

00:44:47.860 One at a time, ladies. 0.99

00:44:49.120 No, you both are both.

00:44:50.440 You're both so fired up.

00:44:51.440 You know what made me so mad about that is that the fact is that the number one people

00:44:57.520 who will sign up for recruitment to the armed services are the Hawaiian people.

00:45:03.000 You knew that, right?

00:45:03.960 Most people who volunteer to go in the armed forces are the Hawaiians by percentage are

00:45:11.700 far ahead of anybody.

00:45:13.360 So why were they so failed by the U.S. military?

00:45:19.180 Where was the U.S. military?

00:45:21.220 They have military base over there on Oahu.

00:45:24.400 I could not believe it.

00:45:26.180 What it was.

00:45:27.420 I feel like we aren't being told the truth.

00:45:30.160 Like we weren't like over here on the big island.

00:45:32.880 Remember they had that fake, they said it was a nuclear bomb back when, you know, a few

00:45:39.400 years back.

00:45:40.640 Remember over Hawaii?

00:45:43.080 Because everybody here on the big island, they got texts from the government saying we're

00:45:48.540 under nuclear attack.

00:45:50.500 And all my neighbors were kissing their children goodbye.

00:45:54.380 And then they come on a half hour later and go, oh, that was a, sorry, that was a screw

00:45:58.940 up.

00:45:59.260 Yeah.

00:45:59.900 Ige pushed the wrong button.

00:46:01.460 And he sent the wrong text message or something.

00:46:05.040 But, you know, so the weird hierarchy here is, and there's a bill going through the legislature

00:46:11.220 right now.

00:46:12.520 So when the county, so we, Maui, needed help.

00:46:16.380 Maui had to ask National Guard.

00:46:19.880 Maui had to ask the mayor, whoever had to ask the, you know, the military, come over here.

00:46:25.720 We need help.

00:46:26.440 They couldn't just like call up and go, hey, we're here.

00:46:29.200 You need some help.

00:46:30.220 We'll come over. 1.00

00:46:31.420 They have to be asked to come in, which is to me stupid. 0.98

00:46:35.820 I mean, should we all just be going, hey, let's all pitch in. 0.98

00:46:39.700 Well, how can we help you?

00:46:40.640 We'll be right over with our ships and our helicopters and whatever, you know.

00:46:45.620 Especially after Pearl Harbor.

00:46:47.720 Yeah, well, you know, it's, that's the least they can do.

00:46:53.780 The least the military, military can do.

00:46:56.260 And I just feel like there's, they have all the equipment in the world.

00:47:01.060 They have, right.

00:47:02.560 They got money.

00:47:03.680 They got manpower and everything.

00:47:08.060 So I don't know.

00:47:08.900 It's just a weird thing.

00:47:10.140 I think that it has something to do with very wealthy people that think their entitlement is way off the charts.

00:47:17.940 And they're like, oh, I could acquire an extra 5,000 acres.

00:47:22.380 You know, they don't even care about what happens to the people.

00:47:25.340 You know, it's like they're so out of touch with people that they, the human element is just called the human element.

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00:49:58.640 You know, I think what you're saying, the perfect example is the island of Lanai.

00:50:08.020 Larry Ellison, and I use the term lightly, owns 98% of an island, right?

00:50:14.800 And that island now is a playground for billionaires, not just millionaires anymore.

00:50:21.620 It's beyond that.

00:50:22.660 And, you know, and so who knows what they're doing over there.

00:50:27.380 It's sad because they've, they're really talk about trying to get rid of the local people, right?

00:50:33.980 I mean, you know what they said about that?

00:50:36.080 Because I looked it up and they said, I said, well, I asked people because I'm a nosy old woman.

00:50:42.040 I always get my nose and stuck in everyone's business.

00:50:44.780 But I'm like, what happened to the Hawaiian people of that island when he bought it?

00:50:49.020 And I was asking important people, you know.

00:50:51.980 And what they said, because they always tried to make it look like they're benevolent.

00:50:56.460 They said, oh, he's, Larry Ellison is allowing them to live on, you know, their own island that he stole from.

00:51:07.120 Well, and in a sense, in a sense, they are all at his beck and call, right?

00:51:15.060 Because those plantation homes they've lived in for generations up on Lanai City are his. 0.95

00:51:21.980 The ones that people moved out of, he let go, dilapidate. 0.90

00:51:27.020 So now it's, it's unfit and, and he can demolish them.

00:51:31.540 And then he pops up a mansion on the property, right? 0.99

00:51:34.740 So the little quaint plantation home is gone, but he purposely let it just turn to crap. 0.88

00:51:40.840 You know, here's the story when I knew that he really wasn't in it to help the people.

00:51:46.100 So there's Richard's Market.

00:51:48.420 There's only a couple, you know, grocery stores.

00:51:51.480 So Richard's Market is run by Pulama Lanai.

00:51:54.640 That's the company that is Ellison.

00:51:56.500 And a little, a family from Kauai, I believe, came over and opened up a little shop called the Poke Bowl, right?

00:52:04.920 Poke Bowls and fish and all this stuff.

00:52:07.320 That's what they specialized in.

00:52:09.220 And Richard's Market started selling Poke Bowls, twice the size, half as cheap.

00:52:15.880 So put the couple, the poor family who packed everything up to come to Lanai to start their business, out of business.

00:52:23.380 So that's when I knew he, the company is not in it to help the people.

00:52:29.140 They're just to be, yeah, to, to rule over them, to have them be there.

00:52:35.600 You know, they're, they're just controlling them all.

00:52:38.960 And that's when I was like, okay, that's what's going on. 1.00

00:52:42.940 They suck. 1.00

00:52:45.280 It's sad. 1.00

00:52:46.360 Did Oprah and the Rocks fundraising help, Lina?

00:52:49.240 Because I saw them put out a nice Instagram.

00:52:50.860 I, you know, I, I guess when whatever millions disperse to a few hundred per person or something, I don't know, 1500, I don't know what it was.

00:52:59.120 I, I didn't, I didn't get it, but a couple of my friends did actually get some of the money, but you know, that's short lived.

00:53:06.880 I mean, 1500, 1200 bucks.

00:53:09.000 How's that?

00:53:09.520 How far is that going to get you?

00:53:10.860 And the 700, we heard 700 came from the Biden administration.

00:53:14.300 I think that was from the president.

00:53:15.920 Yeah, so whoopee, I mean.

00:53:18.560 Is that all you guys got?

00:53:20.020 Can you fill us in?

00:53:21.320 Yeah, I mean, you know, but then you got FEMA.

00:53:24.640 You have all these other monies that are coming in, but they make you jump through and be on hoops to get it.

00:53:31.780 You know, like.

00:53:31.920 Does any human being get any money?

00:53:35.260 To the point where, uh, you're just going to give up and walk away already.

00:53:38.740 Like you can't even, you know, my, my, my tenant.

00:53:42.440 So I have rentals and thankfully they're still intact too.

00:53:45.500 So my tenant finally six months later or is getting FEMA, um, rental assistance.

00:53:52.420 But, you know, it got to the point where his application and then, you know, it says, do you pay cable, water, all that stuff?

00:54:00.200 He doesn't pay it.

00:54:01.120 I pay it.

00:54:01.800 So he just left the little blank, blank.

00:54:04.720 They returned and said, you got to check.

00:54:07.080 No, you have to write.

00:54:08.280 No, you're like, what?

00:54:10.080 So it's just nitpicking BS.

00:54:14.240 Because I don't want to get money. 0.98

00:54:15.600 Ridiculous. 0.94

00:54:16.440 Yeah. 0.95

00:54:16.640 And so, so I don't know.

00:54:18.780 Is, is the government of Hawaii, is it corrupt or is it just.

00:54:23.500 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:54:24.780 Yeah.

00:54:25.240 Well, I mean, I won't hurt it.

00:54:26.540 Yeah.

00:54:27.320 But is it more corrupt than California?

00:54:31.000 I, you know, supposedly I'm in it.

00:54:34.340 I don't like it.

00:54:35.220 Yeah.

00:54:35.900 It's pretty bad, right?

00:54:37.020 And I've said it.

00:54:37.940 Everyone's heard me say it.

00:54:39.420 I'm not like I eyed anything.

00:54:41.220 Is that it's a.

00:54:42.700 I love you.

00:54:43.340 To me, it's not a democracy.

00:54:44.900 It literally, I see it as a dictatorship.

00:54:48.720 I'm sorry.

00:54:49.440 But it really is.

00:54:50.020 Yeah, I do too.

00:54:50.760 I am being dictated to you.

00:54:52.280 It's an oligarchy.

00:54:54.480 Yeah.

00:54:54.940 Day in and day out.

00:54:55.960 I am being dictated.

00:54:57.120 I mean, look at the history of the Hawaiian Islands.

00:54:59.400 13 white businessmen, the provisional government, is what started all this.

00:55:05.560 And it continues, continues on, you know, and I see it every day.

00:55:11.280 It still happens.

00:55:12.160 It's that oppression that it's just in a different shape and form, right?

00:55:15.760 But it's still occurring.

00:55:16.940 And why the people, the true rooted people of the islands are, know it.

00:55:23.880 And they're, they're still not, not sold on the fact that they're, if you want to call

00:55:29.340 American or whatever, you know, and this government, I mean, let me, let me just briefly, quickly

00:55:37.320 tell you how the, the, how the government operates.

00:55:41.420 So, you know, so you have, so in the state house of representative, for example, you have

00:55:46.800 one person, you have a leadership, right?

00:55:48.960 What is that?

00:55:49.480 Five, six people or something.

00:55:50.780 So that leadership, you know, you write a bill, they, the, the speaker, the leader has to

00:55:57.440 decide if he wants that bill heard or not, right?

00:56:01.580 He decides.

00:56:02.600 Then, then he decides what committee it goes to, right?

00:56:07.700 Then it goes to the committee.

00:56:09.060 Um, if it's something, maybe it's solar farms or something, solar, and you go to the energy

00:56:14.160 committee and then the energy committee chair decides at that point, if they, if, you know,

00:56:20.420 that person wants to hear it or not, I mean, they can flat out say no, and it just dies

00:56:24.560 like that.

00:56:25.160 So then they decide really, cause I'm a member on a committee and your job is to support the

00:56:32.220 chair.

00:56:32.800 So you, the chair decides that you need to say yes.

00:56:37.100 So you say yes, because that's what they say.

00:56:39.920 And then it goes, you know, goes over to the Senate.

00:56:43.440 It comes back at the very end of the day, sign die, which is going to be May 4th, 5th

00:56:49.600 or something of this year, first week in May, that final, final night when all the bills

00:56:53.960 do all their things back and forth, up and down, whatever comes to that one day, comes

00:56:58.700 to that floor, up to that table.

00:57:00.760 You have one, the head of ways and means, which is the, the money, um, committee for

00:57:07.380 the Senate.

00:57:07.820 And then you have the chair for finance, which is the, the money committee for the house.

00:57:13.680 Those two people, those are just two people.

00:57:16.600 If one or two of those people are not at that table, that bill dies.

00:57:20.100 It's just like, that's insane.

00:57:21.720 I literally saw that last year and I blew my mind.

00:57:24.840 And I said, the headline was what twilight zone am I in?

00:57:28.540 Because that's what I felt like.

00:57:30.500 A part, one of the guys walks out of the room, just walks out of the room.

00:57:34.280 We all saw him walk out of the room.

00:57:36.180 The bill dies.

00:57:36.960 I go, but he's right there.

00:57:38.620 He's just behind that door.

00:57:40.800 Doesn't matter.

00:57:41.820 Everyone's like, he walked out.

00:57:44.680 The bill dies next.

00:57:46.500 And I just, I, this is literally how it works.

00:57:49.980 I am not exaggerating.

00:57:51.220 This is the truth.

00:57:52.000 And I've said it.

00:57:52.960 So it's nothing new, but it's just like, no one else is willing to walk out of that

00:57:59.240 building and say what I say.

00:58:01.180 You know, um, I, there's no sunshine law.

00:58:03.900 Sunshine law is something the state imposes on everybody else.

00:58:07.460 County council members, boards of commissions, where every decision is made in the open,

00:58:13.060 right?

00:58:13.460 It's on video, Akaku, Olelo TV, OEV TV, whatever, right?

00:58:18.740 So people can see publicly how you made your decision.

00:58:22.180 The state doesn't oppose that upon themselves.

00:58:24.580 The state does not.

00:58:26.400 So the state is not breaking any laws because there's no laws to break.

00:58:31.320 They can have meetings behind closed doors all day long.

00:58:34.600 And they do.

00:58:35.160 And a lot of times I'm not at those meetings, you know, you don't want me, I'm going to

00:58:40.940 ask questions.

00:58:42.360 I mean, I mean, I, I'm the vice chair for community, energy and environmental protection.

00:58:50.400 And I asked, I think it was Maui health, the Maui Memorial hospital here.

00:58:54.400 I asked them a question.

00:58:56.260 The lady writes me a handwritten card thanking me for asking her a question.

00:59:02.620 I'm like, what?

00:59:04.500 I mean, what?

00:59:05.940 That was like such a big, big earth shattering thing that I asked you a question.

00:59:10.740 Yeah.

00:59:10.980 She wrote me like, like put it in the mail and everything.

00:59:13.940 I opened it up.

00:59:14.480 I'm like, you're thanking me for asking you a question.

00:59:18.160 They've never seen it.

00:59:19.720 That's insane.

00:59:20.400 It's like unheard of.

00:59:21.180 Like what?

00:59:22.240 Oh, wow.

00:59:22.900 What a concept.

00:59:23.520 I'm going to ask people who testify in a question.

00:59:27.160 So how can my mother and I help with the podcast?

00:59:29.340 It's astounding.

00:59:30.000 I'm astounded.

00:59:32.980 Yeah.

00:59:33.780 It sounds very unbelievable, but it's very real.

00:59:36.920 It's very real.

00:59:38.260 It's very scary that this is how the state operates.

00:59:41.060 It operates.

00:59:41.860 And hence why probably we're, we're called the most corrupt state, most corrupt state in

00:59:48.080 the nation.

00:59:48.520 How do we turn it red?

00:59:50.380 Because then maybe that'll help if we get some Republicans.

00:59:52.460 Of course, we want to see Hawaii go real.

00:59:54.620 You know who connected me with you folks is Sheila Walker, right?

00:59:59.480 So Sheila Walker is the Republican who ran against the, the, the Senator now for this district,

01:00:07.980 McKelvey.

01:00:09.100 And I'm sure she's going to run again and all power to her. 1.00

01:00:13.300 I mean, that's a whole other tangent and story I could talk about with McKelvey.

01:00:18.520 And things, maybe that's a whole other topic, but, um, basically it's really just about

01:00:25.300 the establishment who's in control.

01:00:28.080 You know, you got to throw the bums out every few years, no matter which party it is. 1.00

01:00:33.160 They, they replaced each other. 0.57

01:00:35.420 And first, when the people vote them in, they might listen to the people for a little bit.

01:00:39.880 Pretty soon they get too comfortable and they're screwing around, screwing us all. 0.97

01:00:44.100 Then you got to throw them bums out and bring in new ones from another party. 0.99

01:00:47.520 Like that's how we got to do things.

01:00:49.880 And right now we got to put the blue bums out. 0.99

01:00:52.880 I'll tell you, I'll tell you the process and what keeps the, um, you know, the good old

01:00:57.720 boy or that network in play all the time.

01:01:00.040 So when I mentioned the two people who like have all the power with the money, right?

01:01:06.260 So, so those people can go ahead.

01:01:09.100 Um, so I'll just talk about the house side so that that person can go ahead and, and, you

01:01:18.220 know, put a ton of money into their districts.

01:01:20.500 For example, um, last year I looked at the budget cause I'm like, Oh, what the hell's in

01:01:27.040 this budget?

01:01:27.600 And up country, which is the chair for finance.

01:01:32.240 He represents Makoau up country area.

01:01:34.820 There was $41 million put towards all the schools up country.

01:01:39.720 West Maui, Mahaina got $875,000.

01:01:44.140 $41 million versus $875,000.

01:01:49.100 So who of country is everyone going to want to vote out their representative because their

01:01:55.580 streets are lined with gold and diamonds, right?

01:01:58.320 I mean, they get everything they want.

01:02:00.560 So now when you support that person too, whether you're from wherever across the state as a

01:02:06.740 representative that he's going to buff out your district.

01:02:10.100 So when you go home, you look like a knight in shining armor too.

01:02:14.460 And your district's going to keep voting you in.

01:02:17.140 So this is how I see it keeps perpetuating itself.

01:02:22.240 And if, and there's no term limits on the state level, there's no term limits.

01:02:25.640 And, and people want to say, well, the voters are the term limits, but now when you do it

01:02:30.420 that way, now, when you buff out your district to the point where who in their right mind is

01:02:34.900 going to get rid of that, that representative, they bring home the bacon all day long for you. 1.00

01:02:39.440 You love that person.

01:02:40.840 So, so that's how they keep getting that vote, you know, and, and then if they leave, they're

01:02:49.000 just grooming someone else, you know, this is the biggest turnover for freshmen.

01:02:53.920 We have 20, I think, freshmen house to house of representatives, and I'm one of them.

01:02:59.000 But unfortunately I see that not all came in the way I came in, right?

01:03:03.160 Grassroots style.

01:03:04.880 Um, I think a lot of them are your groomed ones, like the good old boy network, whatever

01:03:10.760 you want to call it.

01:03:11.480 So it's unfortunate, but that's what I see.

01:03:17.360 And it's, it's about, for me, I'm trying, every time I, I have an audience, I am saying,

01:03:23.640 please run for office.

01:03:25.760 You know, you have to take out these people and get people like myself that, you know,

01:03:33.220 are really in it for the people, not money, you know, fame, fortune, and glory and power

01:03:38.360 tripping, whatever, yeah, but it's hard to find somebody because it is expensive and it

01:03:47.240 shouldn't be about money personally.

01:03:48.920 It should be about who you are and what you're going to bring to the table and what you stand

01:03:53.000 for, right?

01:03:54.040 I have a track record.

01:03:55.240 Thank God people can look me up and see what I've done for this County, what I continue to

01:03:59.440 do.

01:04:00.440 Right.

01:04:01.440 But you got to get in and make a name for yourself.

01:04:03.440 And it is name recognition.

01:04:05.080 It's totally name recognition.

01:04:07.960 And it takes, you know, you have to get in first to start that, you know.

01:04:12.520 Well, we want you to come back all the time and, um, we'll, we'll.

01:04:16.520 Thank you so much.

01:04:17.520 We'll help you with great, great recognition.

01:04:18.520 I appreciate it.

01:04:20.520 Yeah.

01:04:21.520 Absolutely.

01:04:22.520 And keep us updated on the new Disney theme park they're going to put there.

01:04:24.920 We want to see pictures of the girl.

01:04:25.920 Right.

01:04:26.920 I can see one of those big Ferris wheels, you know, like England.

01:04:29.920 Where Oprah's on.

01:04:30.920 Yeah.

01:04:31.920 Yeah.

01:04:32.920 But it's, you know what, it's a lot, a lot of us.

01:04:35.920 The people are done with it.

01:04:37.480 Really? 1.00

01:04:38.480 The people are done with this shit. 1.00

01:04:39.480 The people are going to come and take control and do what needs to be done. 1.00

01:04:43.480 The right people at the right time for the right reason.

01:04:46.480 I think that's where we are now with that mentality.

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01:05:09.760 Uh, I went and hiked.

01:05:10.600 Yeah.

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01:05:17.160 And we were wearing our, my slippers.

01:05:19.280 Cause we say we go out to dinner and I'm, we wear them around the house.

01:05:23.140 I wore them in the yard when I was pulling out weeds and then we went hiking.

01:05:27.040 I took a picture of Jake hiking in his, my slippers there.

01:05:31.240 They are the greatest shoe or foot covering in the world.

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01:06:40.880 I think Lahaina is a very special place as you know.

01:06:44.100 Lahaina is definitely, it is the original capital of the Hawaiian kingdom, right?

01:06:50.360 That's right.

01:06:50.700 The graveyard that I caretake and where my mom is also buried is the heart, right?

01:06:56.780 The pico of the past kingdom, yes, but this state, I feel and know. 0.94

01:07:04.200 And the people who interred there, Queen Keopulani, she was a living god.

01:07:08.200 I mean, King Kamehameha had to lay prone at her feet. 0.91

01:07:12.280 You know, she had the status.

01:07:14.500 That's who's buried there.

01:07:15.760 King Kamuoli'i of Kauai, who never got overthrown.

01:07:19.720 He never got taken over by King Kamehameha.

01:07:21.820 He's seated willingly to King Kamehameha and Queen Ka'ahumanu.

01:07:26.220 So, these people are there.

01:07:28.340 When I go and caretake their graves and, you know, I pick the flowers from the ground from

01:07:35.360 where they're buried and interred, I feel their guidance.

01:07:39.140 You know, I always, I never forget where I come from.

01:07:41.620 And for me, I learn from them and they guide me.

01:07:45.000 And it's...

01:07:46.080 I feel that way about it, too.

01:07:47.920 I really love Lili Ula Ola Kalani because she put herself in prison for the American government

01:07:57.480 would not kill any of the Hawaiian people.

01:07:59.760 And this museum that I live in is dedicated to her because she was about the greatest queen

01:08:07.280 I've ever heard of.

01:08:08.800 Definitely.

01:08:09.620 Yeah.

01:08:09.860 And so, you know, when Biden came to Lahaina, I mean, I was so upset.

01:08:14.780 I mean, it was like a luau.

01:08:16.900 It was, I was...

01:08:17.960 Anyways, it was, I was very upset about that whole thing because I thought we'd sit in a

01:08:22.880 room and figure this out.

01:08:24.260 President is here in Lahaina.

01:08:26.360 Aren't we going to talk about what you're going to do for us?

01:08:29.300 You know?

01:08:29.700 Well, that didn't quite happen.

01:08:31.520 But I thought to myself, I have the president in front of me once in a lifetime, probably,

01:08:38.720 whatever.

01:08:39.240 What, what can I think, what can I say or do to make it memorable for him to remember?

01:08:44.000 You know, and I didn't actually get to be in front of him, but I got to speak with, with

01:08:50.400 Mrs. Biden, you know, and I brought the queen, I brought the, the Hawaii story written by our

01:08:57.040 queen, the book.

01:08:58.120 I gave her the book.

01:08:59.900 I said, please read this book.

01:09:02.840 It's written by our queen.

01:09:04.260 This will teach, this will, you know, enlighten you on why Hawaii is the way it is and why

01:09:11.340 the people of this land feel and are the way they are.

01:09:16.120 Please read this book.

01:09:17.580 I don't care if someone in your office does, your staff, whoever, but please somebody at

01:09:22.160 the White House read this book.

01:09:23.460 So I don't know if that ever happened, but for me, that was, that came to me that I needed

01:09:28.840 to give them our queen's words and her story of the islands.

01:09:34.180 And I don't know where that went.

01:09:36.320 It's such an interesting history too.

01:09:39.340 It's an interesting history that is not complete.

01:09:42.920 I mean, it's still people here.

01:09:44.900 It's still, the mentality is still there, you know?

01:09:48.200 It's still going.

01:09:49.800 You still have people who are descendants who are still alive today.

01:09:54.800 We are still honoring those and it continues.

01:09:58.480 We all know when you're in the circle of the Royal families, the true Royal families, because

01:10:04.700 everyone can claim this and that, whatever, but, um, you know, the true, they, they're, they're,

01:10:10.460 they're not out there screaming, you know, they're doing what they need to do in the way

01:10:14.380 they need to do it.

01:10:15.260 And it's, it's not over, you know, these lands will be, will, the wrongs will be righted.

01:10:24.200 They will.

01:10:24.480 I think so too.

01:10:25.860 I know.

01:10:26.300 I was going to tell you, I went to the grocery store because I had not been on Island here

01:10:31.360 for about a year because I was working on the mainland.

01:10:34.600 When I came home, I was at the grocery store and this old man that I used to talk to when

01:10:39.700 I lived here, you know, a friend, he goes, uh, where are you been?

01:10:44.180 And I said, Oh, I had to go do work over on the mainland.

01:10:48.560 And he started laughing and he goes, Oh no, nothing good ever happens on the mainland.

01:10:56.580 Yeah.

01:10:57.680 Well, I said, you're right.

01:10:59.540 Cause I got fired once I went over there.

01:11:03.720 Well, we love you here.

01:11:05.740 You're all, this is your home, you know, and, and this will always be my home.

01:11:09.280 And I love you.

01:11:10.300 And I, I just send all my prayers.

01:11:13.660 I've been praying a long time for the people there.

01:11:15.660 I have, uh, I am in contact with people working on behalf of people keeping their land and all

01:11:22.900 that kind of stuff.

01:11:23.700 We'll do more shows on, but thank you so much for being on my show.

01:11:28.060 Well, you're going to come on here.

01:11:32.440 I'll come and visit.

01:11:35.560 If you folks are planning to come to Lahaina, I mean, let me know, and I can take you down

01:11:41.180 to the, to the church, you know, to the graves.

01:11:43.720 I will.

01:11:44.260 I will.

01:11:44.720 I do want to do that.

01:11:45.840 I want to come and talk to the people and let them talk about what happened, tell their

01:11:50.040 stories, you know, talk story.

01:11:51.380 Yeah, I have a table, um, the FEMA disaster relief center up at the Lahaina civic center.

01:11:57.640 I finally are able, I'm able as a state house representative to have a table.

01:12:02.400 It's, it's for informational gathering.

01:12:04.660 You know, it's where I can get the pulse of the community.

01:12:07.200 Like I said, I'm only on another Island and I'm not allowed to hire anybody here.

01:12:11.940 It's like, what, what?

01:12:13.400 That just doesn't make sense.

01:12:14.620 So at least I have a table now where someone can come and grab a card or, you know, set

01:12:21.040 up a schedule for a zoom or a phone call with me so I can be connected.

01:12:25.440 I mean, how am I going to know?

01:12:26.720 Because you want to get busy on behalf of helping the people and, you know, glad we had

01:12:31.940 you on because now they'll know that they do have help and somebody on their side, right

01:12:36.600 in the bully of the beast there.

01:12:38.940 Yeah.

01:12:39.400 Keeping their property is number one.

01:12:41.480 That's number one priority.

01:12:42.640 Let them keep their houses. 0.84

01:12:43.740 And people got to remember it's their private property.

01:12:48.820 It's not the government.

01:12:50.220 It's their own private property and they have private rights.

01:12:53.920 They have rights as a private landowner.

01:12:56.460 They have, they have human rights.

01:12:58.220 They have private, they have land rights.

01:12:59.840 So don't give it away.

01:13:01.760 Don't give away your rights to anybody.

01:13:04.340 People need to realize that, you know?

01:13:06.580 Thank you so much.

01:13:07.140 One more tip before we go.

01:13:09.240 If Biden comes back, if you just get like an eight or nine year old girl and keep her

01:13:13.240 around, he'll get your attention.

01:13:14.920 I'm just saying, I've watched it.

01:13:16.420 That's what works for Biden.

01:13:17.560 He's a bad son.

01:13:18.420 I'm going to say that.

01:13:19.460 I'm just saying.

01:13:20.200 It's what works.

01:13:20.680 It was kind of like a weekend at Bernie's, you know, a weekend at Biden's.

01:13:24.220 I was told, I was told, this is a schedule, literally.

01:13:28.540 He gets up.

01:13:29.920 They give him the morning briefing.

01:13:31.400 You know, they feed him breakfast.

01:13:33.980 He goes to nap for four hours.

01:13:36.260 That's every morning.

01:13:37.540 That's his schedule.

01:13:38.220 That's like mom's schedule.

01:13:39.240 That's like, that's kind of like mom's schedule.

01:13:41.220 I wish that was my schedule.

01:13:42.940 Yeah, me too.

01:13:43.600 I like that schedule too.

01:13:45.400 All right.

01:13:45.780 Thank you so much.

01:13:47.220 Yeah.

01:13:47.440 I appreciate your folks' time and everything you do, getting the word out.

01:13:51.220 And so I appreciate that so much.

01:13:53.580 We do.

01:13:54.600 You too.

01:13:55.980 Thanks for coming.

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The Roseanne Barr Podcast - February 29, 2024

＂No water coming out of fire hydrants＂ Lahaina Rep Elle Cochran ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #037

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