The Roseanne Barr Podcast - July 20, 2023


Ron White | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #006


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 13 minutes

Words per Minute

178.79231

Word Count

13,105

Sentence Count

11

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

75


Summary

In this episode of the Roseanne Bar Podcast, I sit down with my good friend and comedian, Ron White. We talk about what it's like being a standup comic in Los Angeles, how he got into standup comedy, and what it s like being married to a comedian. We also talk about his experience with pot and how he ended up in prison for his first time on stage, and why he thinks Donald Trump is a douchebag. You won't want to miss this one! I hope you enjoy this episode, and don't forget to Like, Share, and Subscribe to my other podcast, Roseanne's Rambling, where I talk about comedy, politics, and other things related to the world of Los Angeles. I am a proud member of the LA comedy community, and I can't wait for you to listen to this episode. Thank you so much to my friend Ron White for coming on the show, and thank you to Roseanne for having me on the podcast. Stay tuned for more episodes in the future episodes of the roseanne bar podcast! Stay safe out there, everyone! Roseanne xoxo Roseanne -Ronna White Ronna White is a comedian, writer, standup comedian, actor, husband, and father, and all-around nice guy. RON White, RON WYNNE Whiteyay, and RON EYAYYAY, I can t wait to have him on The Roseanne Podcast! - RONYAYAYYay! , RONNANNAYayay , . ~ RON WHITEYAY! RONNAYYAY (RONNEEYAYAAAAY | RONNNEYAY!! -- RONNY WYAY YAY! ~RONNY YAY , SONNYYAY ! ...RONANNAH & RONANCHEYANNE NAYAY ... WELL ,RONNAH YAYAY , RENNAYAY !! AND RONNEYYay , DON TALK TO ME, RAAAAYAY , I LOVE YOU, RENANNEY , JEANEE , I CAN'T NOTHING , RAAAAAY , RYANNA


Transcript

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00:00:57.820 agreement with eye gaming ontario hi everybody it's roseanne and i'm very excited on my podcast
00:01:04.360 today on the roseanne bar podcast as you've noted um because i have a great guest uh he's a fantastic
00:01:12.780 comedian a very nice man and i can't wait to uh talk to him here today mr ron white
00:01:20.320 yay thank you thank you very much for having me roseanne thanks for coming over
00:01:27.980 is it okay if i smoke this in here oh yeah let's let's get that going fire that up
00:01:33.320 it's always fun to oh i will i don't mind if i do
00:01:38.740 you have some i smoked your pot when i went on joe rogan's stage and i i couldn't remember any of
00:01:52.760 my punch lines i didn't know how to be funny this is really mild outdoor weed that uh just kind of
00:02:02.120 trippy you'll like this stuff it's really light i smoked that william the redheaded guy's pot
00:02:08.240 yeah and i said god this is like viet kong pot it made me want to dig a big old tunnel and shoot
00:02:16.380 down helicopters with a pea shooter you don't go on stage that way right do you smoke pot before you
00:02:23.400 go on stage yeah you know it you know how we work it up at the mothership it's uh it's uh every man
00:02:30.160 for himself and uh uh but yeah we you know i i like to kind of do the first one a little more uh
00:02:37.940 sober but that second show when we got that gap in there i get pretty wasted for that one so yeah
00:02:43.600 the whole comedy green room is set up for that kind of thing yeah that's what it's set up for
00:02:48.240 ain't it fun it's like the comedy store used to be they told me that uh i mean there's other guys
00:02:53.220 that have rooms they're asking me to come play them in austin and i'm like well if you build a room
00:02:58.320 between the fat man and the little boy then i might stop by but right now i could do four sets
00:03:05.660 a night yeah and never leave the couch hardly except for to get up and walk over and do the set
00:03:10.760 that's just the most amazing thing if i was a young comic there i would say there'd be no place to live
00:03:15.660 other than austin texas that's how i felt when i went down there you were there that night when i went
00:03:21.040 on stage and that was like my first time on stage for a long time i was there with my son jake say hi
00:03:27.520 jake hello everybody and my daughter uh jenny who's very funny and a writer and uh she's a libtard and uh
00:03:36.820 my three daughters are libtards i don't know where i went wrong but anyways so uh weren't you a libtard
00:03:43.380 oh yeah i was a terrible i was all the way like double retard yeah libtard sorry but uh i'm a center
00:03:51.140 left republican yeah that's what i am now i hear you yeah so uh i you know there's there's some few
00:04:01.480 things that i vote for i mean in a in a presidential candidate but i need to have a regular fucking
00:04:07.980 person in there you know that i can depend on but i'm not seeing the guy you know or the girl i'm
00:04:13.740 just not seeing the i'm not seeing the answer right now so you're not a trumper no good god almighty
00:04:20.280 really no can't stand him you can't stand trump no oh my god that's freaky is it over is our podcast
00:04:28.840 over no it's not but you know we don't i just love him i just do i i totally relate to him and he was so
00:04:36.240 nice to me he's like one of the only people that was ever nice to me in hollywood he's like a real
00:04:42.000 guy yeah yeah you know and he's like us he shoots from the hip but he's got good ideas and he won't
00:04:49.560 let nobody say you can't that can't be done that's why i like him you know i could go into why i don't
00:04:57.760 like him do it the list is just extremely long you know i never take a stand one way or the other
00:05:03.460 because i don't want people to to decide how they think because of something i said especially
00:05:08.840 about politics so yeah you know um but i'm a but i'm a republican i just but i'm i'm a never
00:05:15.920 never trump republican oh my god well they teach their own yeah right well don't you remember back
00:05:23.180 when nobody gave a shit who you voted for i mean just nobody cared you know you just voted for
00:05:28.520 somebody now it's really divisive right and we were talking about that earlier inside of families
00:05:33.980 are kind of torn apart by uh by these political differences well you know it's all bullshit though
00:05:39.660 it's like a unified field of bullshit not one thing's true anywhere you look that's what i think
00:05:46.200 i know that's what you think you don't think that
00:05:49.900 the news is a commodity and it's valuable and uh there are people out there that sole purpose is to
00:06:01.700 seek out the news uh now it needs to be you know whether it's true or not and but but if you if you
00:06:10.740 can convince somebody that all the news is bad it's all fake and the fact checkers are also fake
00:06:16.720 then uh then where do you go for for information so i think that if
00:06:22.380 i just think that uh that if you go to not a new spin doctor like you don't watch cnn or fox or any of
00:06:31.540 that stuff but you read the news from bloomberg and reuters or whatever however you pronounce that
00:06:37.600 and and uh uh they have people they pay to gather the news and it's worth money so they're really good
00:06:44.160 at it so i a lot of times i'll hear these wild conspiracies a lot of times from you but
00:06:49.660 i have another friend from uh that was i did stand up with for years and she's just full-blown
00:06:55.300 human on and believes every word of it and and i'm like why what what on earth and i try to talk her
00:07:03.240 out of it and she's just uh you know she is so stuck in that place because of things she read on the
00:07:12.400 internet right they can't be validated uh and except for other things that were on the internet
00:07:18.960 they're getting i believe that you're getting fed this stuff because it's what you like to eat and
00:07:24.460 there's money in feeding people that are hungry you know and that's so i you know and i i have 15 news
00:07:30.880 sources and i read them all well that's what i do too i read a variety of news sources like i'll read
00:07:36.420 far left and right you know i don't just read you know internet stuff but i do like huge variety
00:07:43.820 and uh i do like government documents and you know uh declassified that's my favorite thing
00:07:51.040 anything to do with uh profiling too uh fbi profiling of psychotics and shit like that right
00:07:59.000 it's my favorite murder solving murders you spend way more time on it than i do so maybe you're right
00:08:05.080 no but i mean i know that the government's corrupt i mean you've got to give it you've got to know
00:08:11.200 that right i know that uh i know that the government is corrupt i know that okay i do know we agree on
00:08:19.100 so we don't need to go no further than that no that's fine okay and they're all like just like
00:08:25.640 getting paid and it don't have nothing to do with the american people i believe that and it's scary
00:08:32.760 because i don't know what in the fuck they're doing they don't listen to anything and are you
00:08:38.460 scared that they're letting terrorists over the border to come and kill us uh no oh i'm not i'm not
00:08:45.960 worried about it at all really that's good to hear no because they're going to walk around texas you
00:08:50.660 know you can't come into texas and start shooting people we'll shoot you back that's our policy
00:08:56.620 uh we will just everybody in texas that's why they're rarely a club shooting or a bank robbery
00:09:04.980 with guns because everybody has guns here you know and and so there is a i would love to see some gun
00:09:12.100 control but uh but my position with gun control is let's just make the club a little harder to join
00:09:19.300 you know i'm not going to give up my guns and i'm not asking anybody else to because they've already
00:09:23.560 proven that they're responsible gun owners right because they've owned a gun for years an ar whatever
00:09:28.080 haven't killed anybody with it so right and uh i'm from the panhandle of texas and nobody up there
00:09:34.420 hunts with an ar-15 they've all got them right they don't hunt with them it's just for protection
00:09:39.220 and so and i genuinely believe in every case it is but i would just like to make that so we're in a
00:09:46.560 club we all have right we all have these guns and uh but i think we make that club hard to join
00:09:51.240 so you can't just waltz in and uh and waltz out well you know they steal guns all over the place
00:09:58.580 and you can buy them at those anybody can get them no no no yeah that's why they're the the the very
00:10:05.180 thought of somebody saying yeah we got to get rid of guns well that's ridiculous yeah there you can't
00:10:09.880 get rid of something that's already here you know right and it's and it's embedded in our society
00:10:14.600 it's a right we have as citizens uh to carry these guns so i i love guns uh yeah maybe you
00:10:22.360 got flagged because you did get arrested for pot i love that story it had like a tiny minuscule amount
00:10:29.060 i had seven eighths of a gram of uh marijuana they pulled me off uh my plane i used to have a plane
00:10:36.320 wow and uh and uh and it was just me on the plane i was looking out the window we landed in fort pierce
00:10:42.860 florida and i'm looking out the window and there's man there's like a swat team out there with dogs and
00:10:48.360 vests and you know and i'm like wow what's going on i wonder as i'm looking out the window and
00:10:54.020 and uh these pilots that i've fired for being dickheads uh there's a number you can call
00:11:01.500 that uh that's an anonymous number that you can say hey that plane is a drug plane
00:11:08.160 and uh then if you know the tail number of plane you have a software called flatterware you can
00:11:12.700 follow any plane in the world anywhere it goes and so right before i would land somewhere they would
00:11:17.300 call the dea or whatever and tell them it was a drug plane and the cops would come out and talk with
00:11:22.180 me that's pretty funny and uh they they pulled me off the plane and they told me what happened and i
00:11:28.720 told them what happened and uh and the guys that the cops that were there they were fans and they
00:11:33.500 were like sorry about this they knew i was there to do a show they knew i wasn't a drug smuggler
00:11:38.080 and uh they said can we put our dogs on the plane and i'm like i put them on there and of course the
00:11:43.320 dogs were because i smoked pot on the plane and uh then they come off and then uh the guy goes uh
00:11:52.720 the dog needs to sniff that bag on your shoulder and i was like row row and uh so whenever he they
00:12:00.040 i said yeah here this is all it's only a little bitty tiny bit and they guess oh they're not gonna
00:12:05.680 do anything about that and then the guy the sheriff that they called uh yeah they said bring him in
00:12:11.740 he's a flight risk because he has a plane and i'm like this is ridiculous and they took me to city
00:12:17.580 jail and i sat in there and uh it was kind of funny i back then i used to get five grand a night
00:12:25.000 in cash because i don't understand money and i like to see it yeah and especially back then so i'd
00:12:30.920 done seven or eight shows so i had like 35 000 bucks in that bag and so i get to jail and the guy goes i
00:12:39.100 need to count that money he goes one mississippi oh my god two mississippi i said no you can't
00:12:46.640 count it like that just count it off stacks of uh just stacks of a hundred just count off a hundred
00:12:51.800 at a time there there there's five thousand i said i'm teaching him how to count and uh come on man and
00:12:58.060 uh so then they moved me over right you've got a show to do yeah i got a show to do at the theater and
00:13:04.040 uh they moved me over to county jail and they were just they're just making announcements at the
00:13:09.240 theater okay he's out of city but they're putting him in county jail but he's gonna come to the show
00:13:13.760 the crowds were like yeah so i when i got out there was a truckload of kids this is how fast news moves
00:13:21.680 and they had made these signs that said free tater and they were in the back of this truck and i wish i
00:13:29.060 would have i was i was freaked out because i was too going to be two hours late for the show which i've
00:13:33.620 never a minute late for anything and uh so uh i got there in the crowd one person left uh wow that
00:13:44.440 had a babysitter issue and they said and they apologized for leaving so the whole crowd was
00:13:49.120 still there and next time i went there and it just bumped because it was such a ridiculous arrest
00:13:54.580 i mean they they drove by three meth labs and a dead hooker just to get to where i was right you know
00:14:00.800 and uh it was it was just a you think it just bumped all sales ticket sales book sales uh you know
00:14:11.560 and the next time i came back in there i did five shows because it was just ridiculous a ridiculous use
00:14:17.520 of manpower or whatever sometimes that shit when they're trying to get you it backfires and helps
00:14:23.420 you out huh sometimes sometimes sometimes it don't i was still pissed the guy the the cop in the
00:14:31.200 newspaper the sheriff said uh he he may not have had uh many drugs with him but how do we know how
00:14:38.760 much he did have well how do we know i didn't kill somebody why don't we just put me in jail for murder
00:14:44.560 so he just oh yeah and i just wanted to i wanted to beat that guy out of his job so bad i would i made it
00:14:52.380 open i would support any candidate that wanted to run against him for the election of sheriff and i
00:14:57.320 was gonna make that my i was so mad i was just spending way too much time and energy just
00:15:01.960 but that's really bad that's a that's a violation of your civil rights because he's trying to poison
00:15:08.360 the jury pool you know he really was and then we ended up making a deal with him so you know just so
00:15:14.820 i could get out i mean just eventually if i didn't get arrested in six months it would be off the record
00:15:19.320 and and i didn't need a marijuana arrest because i travel a lot you know so i want my you know quick
00:15:25.420 through the airport stuff and you know global entry and all that stuff you can lose that with a
00:15:31.780 misdemeanor you know uh conviction one time i was uh in italy and i had some illegal drugs and we was
00:15:40.460 going to fly to uh uh another country and uh oh god oh no that was a long story i don't even want to
00:15:49.600 tell it but anyway i was running away from my ex-husband you know and he shows up fucking in
00:15:55.780 italy that fucking guy with a uh newspaper crew didn't he that he hired yeah photographer the inquirer
00:16:02.040 can you tell that story no he won't want it it's a war it is it's not okay so i was over there in
00:16:09.540 sardinia this is a island off of italy beautiful place and i was run away from my husband and uh
00:16:18.540 you know i'm like fuck i'm leaving that motherfucker and i was like okay i gotta count
00:16:24.420 it down because i still had season what what part of your life is this uh that's my tom arnold
00:16:30.140 marriage oh at the end of that you know and i'm like i gotta get the fuck out of here
00:16:35.200 i'm gonna i'm gonna go to prison if i don't get out of here you know because i'm gonna have to kill
00:16:40.940 that guy because he got on my nerve my last nerve my last fucking uh frazzled fucking nerve you know
00:16:51.820 what i mean so i'm like i'm getting out of here before i go to prison so anyways i go over to italy
00:16:58.220 and uh and is it just you no i took my bodyguard that tom hired and then we had a baby
00:17:05.860 what made you think i didn't want to hear this story talk about how just tell just tell it real
00:17:12.960 quick that tom came with the press because oh yeah so i was hiding out from tom and uh
00:17:19.280 because he was so gross trying to get me back which he always tried to do and i always went back too
00:17:25.980 because i was stupid he flies over there i'm living in a fucking cave inside a mountain a house that
00:17:34.440 was built into a mountain and i hired the uh police force of sardinia there to sit on my roof with guns
00:17:42.180 i was a little paranoid right oh they had me on so many meds by then i didn't know what reality was
00:17:50.980 so anyways here he comes with the inquirer photographers they call me in my house they go
00:17:59.900 your your husband is here uh he just landed at the airport and we thought you'd want to know
00:18:05.400 i'm like oh fuck so anyways he calls me up an hour later i'm coming down on a white horse holding
00:18:15.600 three dozen red roses i'm coming into the yard and i'm going to you're going to get on the horse with
00:18:24.900 me and they're going to take pictures you're fucking crazy you tell me i'm crazy and but you're fucking
00:18:36.700 crazy i go you better not or they'll shoot your ass and they'll shoot the fucking horse too and your
00:18:43.240 brother and the photographer don't even fucking do it so he doesn't instead he gets a boat he gets a
00:18:50.900 fucking motorboat and he he comes by the house back and forth back and forth in the motorboat
00:18:58.340 it was we had the craziest relationship well it was insane the thing about tom that always bothered
00:19:04.740 me is everything was always like a photo op and when when they very first started dating he actually
00:19:09.620 sold stories to the inquirer about them dating so he had a long history but that's why i find this
00:19:14.160 funny and he called me crazy but i was crazy because i got with another crazy person who kept
00:19:20.880 on gaslighting me and saying you're crazy right until i realized oh you married your like kind of
00:19:28.220 psychic crazy twin it's like you're both fucking nuts and you should have nothing whatsoever to do
00:19:35.560 with each other because we were both comics he loved you didn't he he loved the fuck out of me and i
00:19:40.880 loved the fuck out of him and of course i was a i was a jew and i was like i can get this guy to give
00:19:46.900 me jokes and i'm never gonna pay him you know all right because he likes me and he'll just do it
00:19:53.680 because he'll want to hang out with me so i can use him
00:19:57.560 and he would cry to me he'd go like you've got to pay me and i'd be like okay i will i'll pay you
00:20:08.580 you know and then i never would pay him it was horrible did you ever pay him are you shitting me
00:20:14.960 you walked off with half everything i had oh did he really of course oh because i always do the
00:20:20.980 wrong thing you know what i mean you know what i mean yeah i why now why would i know about that
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00:21:46.980 hated that critic and you oh you know yeah no what happened was this guy named duncan strauss i think
00:21:55.360 was booking the uh laugh stop or either that way or he or he may have been the critic i can't
00:22:01.360 remember now it's been a while but uh it's been 35 years and uh but he came out and saw me do 15
00:22:08.820 minutes at the laugh stop here in austin and uh i've been doing stand-up for three years and the 15 was
00:22:14.580 great you know i just murdered the place and so he books me to headline the newport laugh stop and the
00:22:21.080 the guys that were there the two weeks before me were slayton and seinfeld and then ron white's
00:22:25.560 three-year-old uh act and i was really nervous and uh i hadn't performed within 1500 miles of there and
00:22:32.800 i knew that slayton was just murdering clubs and seinfeld was murdering clubs and i'm like i don't
00:22:40.500 think i'm ready for this and uh i went on stage right before i went on stage a waitress came up to me
00:22:47.040 she goes yeah that she goes that's duncan strauss he's the he's here to interview to review the show
00:22:53.000 for the uh la times and i'm like that doesn't make me feel better at all and so i had some
00:23:01.340 couple of shots and i went on stage and i thought all the jokes landed you know and i'm like i walked
00:23:08.200 away from the show sat feeling pretty good and uh but he was already gone when i got off stage because
00:23:14.380 i figured he'd want to sit down and talk to me and you know speculate on my success it was about
00:23:19.440 to come and uh it was pretty good and and then uh the next night the they had like an open mic night
00:23:28.780 there was a guy named mike epps from texas he was there and i just slayed the room that was the best
00:23:34.820 set i'd ever had that night and uh and afterwards i've got them all gathered around me i'm giving them
00:23:40.200 advice you know and just trying to i just i was thinking about calling and getting a divorce you
00:23:46.500 know hooking up with somebody new you know hotter and uh because this is definitely going to go places
00:23:53.760 and then get really drunk that night with those guys and i'm staying in the in the nicest hotel room
00:24:01.180 you know at that point i'd ever stayed in it's called the marriott suites on the bay and uh and
00:24:06.940 it had a bathroom with a phone and you know just things i hadn't really seen before big views of the
00:24:13.960 bay and uh i woke up the next morning i was really excited about seeing that review because that was
00:24:19.500 going to be the start you know to the whole thing and uh and i so i walked down to the to the uh club
00:24:27.680 and the uh and i walked in there and i'd i'd hung out there i'd gone a couple times so they knew who i
00:24:35.280 was i mean they we knew him a little bit and i walk in they go don't read it ron and i'm like what
00:24:40.540 he goes don't read it it's not true the guy's a he's a hatchet man i'm like what are you talking
00:24:45.620 about oh uh the the review don't read it it's it's just there's no he just just what he does
00:24:53.500 it's horrible and i'm like let me see it oh yeah so there's a big picture of me making a face i swear
00:25:02.480 i've never made you know just some stupid look that i was mugging for a laugh i don't know what it
00:25:08.860 was and uh but there it was and and that was that big in the orange county edition of the la times and
00:25:15.600 and in a big black print it said even when white's not blue he's not funny that's a headline
00:25:22.980 yeah oh that's that yeah in big big black length that's exactly what it said i read it a thousand
00:25:28.740 times it said it was like like watching a polar bear lumber around on stage something eventful or
00:25:35.260 comical happening only occasionally and uh and literally i dropped the i dropped it twice
00:25:42.820 out of my hands uh because it was making me sick and i truly believed that i had been found out as a
00:25:52.700 phony and i had bought that story myself and uh and and so it was it was that devastating so
00:26:01.600 i went across the street and uh and i bought a bottle of tequila and a pack of razor blades
00:26:11.640 and i went back up to my hotel room and i mailed the razor blades to him with a note that said just
00:26:17.940 in case you're ever in the mood and uh which and then i sat there and read it over and over and
00:26:27.720 just drank that bottle of tequila i had a big fucking bag of weed all day long and i figure
00:26:33.700 the shows are canceled uh you know there's no way that they'll do the shows there'll be nobody there
00:26:40.300 and uh and then i'm thinking well they gotta pay me for monday or two tuesday and wednesday or whatever
00:26:47.660 it was the days that i'd work because it's friday now and uh and so i passed out and i woke up about
00:26:56.280 seven or something and i thought well i'll go down there and ask them about the 180 dollars they owe
00:27:02.480 me or whatever it was and of course the fucking place is packed nobody gave a shit about the review
00:27:07.500 nobody read the fucking review already wrapped around the bass in somebody's fucking freezer and
00:27:11.960 and uh and it was it was you know late 80s the clubs were packed and uh so but i was in no shape
00:27:21.540 to do a show i was so hung over drunk shitty and all i could do is get drunker and shittier there
00:27:30.720 was no way to pull out of it you know through the other side so i went up and just proved everything
00:27:37.440 the guy said to be done god's honest truth horrible set oh no the guy that booked me called the club
00:27:43.420 to and just to see how i was doing because he read it and they're like oh he's not okay at all and uh
00:27:50.980 and then that you know the next night wasn't as bad because i didn't have i mean i just wasn't so
00:27:57.680 trashed and and uh and the second show the second night was like that one that was really good and
00:28:05.060 then sunday was really strong and uh but i uh and then i of course i called my wife and told her how
00:28:12.980 much i loved her and i needed her support to help me through these times after i was ready to dump her
00:28:18.460 two days ago now i'm for you know you mean everything to me you're my world you're my world
00:28:26.320 and uh i don't want to be alone right now and so and i and it was it was the absolute best thing that
00:28:37.240 could have happened because he was right he was 100 right i had no business there and i knew it
00:28:43.660 and uh so i just got a big smack in the face from this guy and i realized right away you need to go
00:28:51.720 back to the midwest where you came from and you need to sharpen the blade for as long as it takes
00:28:59.600 uh because you are good at this you're just not there yet and uh so you know that's what i did i
00:29:07.440 went back to the you know the funny bone chain and the punchline chain and did clubs for years and years
00:29:14.100 and and got real good at it and uh so when foxworthy came along and uh you know he and i hit it off from
00:29:23.500 the beginning and and when he got big enough to take somebody with him he took me with him which was
00:29:28.580 an amazingly gracious thing for him to do and and uh he's a very nice person now that is a nice guy
00:29:35.840 i mean just polite just a great friend and so he did that for me and uh so the blue collar thing
00:29:46.140 hit and you know that's what made my career and that you know it was uh was it like in a minute
00:29:53.660 i mean what was the minute like when you went wow i did it well we started off doing doing the tour and
00:30:01.580 we really uh i remember the first time we ever talked about doing it and me being part of it and
00:30:07.200 uh jeff was like uh uh well there's this big thing coming up and if you play your cards right you can
00:30:14.980 be part of it and i'm like why don't i just give you my cards and you play them anyway you want to
00:30:19.860 and i'm in and uh and then he told us about combining a tour and the four of us going out and i'm like
00:30:26.060 that's retarded and uh turns out it wasn't retarded at all it's huge business and uh and i was the
00:30:33.420 opening act and it was jeff's tour you know and uh we had another guy and then we got dan whitney
00:30:39.600 larry the cable guy which was a really good fit for us and yeah and uh you know we did these huge
00:30:44.960 venues and then warner brothers signed us up to do a movie and i didn't even know what it meant
00:30:49.140 you know like sounds good to me and uh that was the catalyst you know there has to be a catalyst
00:30:55.660 how fun was it way back when you were just starting you know i i uh i had such a blast uh i i
00:31:04.460 i knew that i had a special brain how old were you when you first knew that uh
00:31:14.160 yeah yeah well i i knew it was i didn't know what was the upside was going to be about it
00:31:21.620 and uh but i didn't i didn't graduate from high school but then i wrote the best joke about
00:31:29.360 uh having a ged that's ever been written what is it so i didn't graduate from high school
00:31:37.420 uh i do have a ged and if you don't know what ged stands for you've probably got one too
00:31:45.460 i do have one so but i but i couldn't do traditional school work almost at all and a
00:31:58.300 horrible attention deficit disorder and and most mostly i was in uh in slow classes
00:32:05.560 and uh i also had some dyslexia oh shit and uh where was this at where were you growing up
00:32:13.520 deer park texas suburb of houston the smellier chemicalier side of houston and uh but i knew that
00:32:24.600 i could hold court at a party or a function or and i also could write funny songs and uh which i did
00:32:36.360 and uh and so i and and i always got laughs you know i was always knew that there was something
00:32:42.100 about it that was good but i had no idea that if you wanted to be a comedian all you got to do is go
00:32:47.720 start being a comedian uh you do have to do that though you got to go do it all the time immerse
00:32:52.880 yourself in it but you can do it i didn't know it was an option they didn't talk a lot about the arts
00:32:57.280 a career day at deer park yeah you know junior high and uh so when they uh they opened a comedy club
00:33:08.420 uh funny bone between where i lived and where i worked so i saw the sign every day and
00:33:13.060 right soon after it opened this guy named sam bartholomew that i worked with he went to the first
00:33:19.280 open mic night or first yeah open mic night and he came back the next day and goes you're funnier than
00:33:25.100 these people wow you should go down there and give this a try and i and i and i had also always been
00:33:31.380 a comedy fan so i had uh you know all the you know all the cosby stuff and uh prior and i mean i had
00:33:39.420 flip wilson oh those are all my favorite new heart and new heart yeah uh andy griffith yeah i had him
00:33:46.400 too i had all the malpums yeah so and i and i know that that what i loved about him was uh the laughter
00:33:54.880 just listening to the laughter because as a kid i couldn't have got the jokes but i loved listening
00:33:59.240 to them when i was a kid and there wasn't a lot of laughing going on over my place and and uh so i think
00:34:05.000 that's what kind of hooked me ron what year did you start stand up 86 86 yeah that's when you started
00:34:11.700 that's the year i got the carson show oh really christ yeah that's weird i'm sorry to laugh but
00:34:19.380 he's already told the story but i remember when you talked coming to la and your your rise to success
00:34:24.900 was so quick and i remember just looking at rob we were the vulcan and you're almost receiving
00:34:29.660 because you're it took how long from the time you started till the blue collar tour
00:34:34.500 i was about 15 years i think that happened right around 2000 and you had the razor blade 2001 stuff
00:34:43.020 like it was it was a heart it was a long yeah 15 years that nobody gave a fiddler's fuck that's what
00:34:48.780 you said yeah but and you know what and that and that's okay too yeah you know here we are because i was
00:34:56.700 so ready you know i just had in blue collar i was only on it the first album for 10 minutes
00:35:01.940 and i was sitting there thinking about that i'm like you know that i got a shot at getting famous
00:35:08.420 with 10 minutes of material that's amazing and uh because most people burn what their best stuff
00:35:13.920 getting you know on hbo or whatever but but then i've got this big old show that nobody's ever seen
00:35:20.860 and and the the blue collar stuff was all clean because jeff was jeff's show and jeff's work clean so i had
00:35:26.260 to do work pretty clean on that so a lot of the crowd wasn't ready for the it's not near as wholesome
00:35:32.280 in its bigger view you know the uh but for the most part it worked great so but i kind of saw that
00:35:40.020 coming down well man that's got to be about perfect right to be able to get famous without burning all
00:35:45.900 this stuff that's amazing but you didn't burn a lot of material before you got famous either right
00:35:50.820 well i did that my first hbo special i burned all my material okay that was before i got my show
00:35:56.900 i had you know a good oh that was before roseanne yeah that was kind of like the pilot for my tv tv show
00:36:05.180 oh okay but i did my full hour clean fairly clean you know and then uh i wrote that other show that i
00:36:15.760 told you i got can't my first cancellation and i did a special out of that too so i i've done like
00:36:22.660 four or five hbo specials yeah and then i just did this box i think that was my fifth one
00:36:28.840 so i got five hours of comedy and i'm working on my sixth i just love it it's so great to do it again
00:36:36.540 i didn't do it for a really long time yeah right well you could tell i wish we could build a club
00:36:42.520 like right in our backyard we did but you moved to blanco instead of austin i know but i'm gonna get
00:36:50.240 a place in austin for an old lady i'm gonna get me an old lady place so i can work the uh because i
00:36:58.400 enjoy hanging out with the comics i really do they just melt when you walk on stage they just go crazy
00:37:04.980 crazy crazy with love and they want to let you know they want to let you know they do yeah it just
00:37:11.520 feel so nice what would what would that uh what would that guy if you were you when you were looking
00:37:19.520 back and it was a time machine what would that guy with the razor blade shit what would he think if he
00:37:26.380 had a vision of how you are right now would he even imagine it uh you know no i don't think he saw it
00:37:33.420 coming that's my success i mean i don't think he saw that coming uh are you talking about from my
00:37:41.720 perspective yeah your old your young self no you know even later on after jeff got real big and because
00:37:54.320 i knew him both before and after that and i still never thought it would happen to me i thought i kind
00:38:01.060 saw myself like willie nelson's harmonica player just a good job over there every week just blowing
00:38:08.440 a harmonica i would open for jeff forever you know uh that was a good enough job for me and i didn't
00:38:14.280 need a lot and uh but i never really ever considered that i didn't think i had done the work i didn't
00:38:22.960 think i was good enough i didn't think all these things you know that most people do i guess but
00:38:27.020 uh so i was completely surprised and thrilled you know when i did work and uh i've never quite
00:38:35.740 understood it but that doesn't matter you know uh but i don't really think i'll do any more extensive
00:38:42.840 touring i may go out and do some dates it's it's fun but you know it's fun doing what we're you know
00:38:50.440 doing here in town so i don't think i'm gonna yeah i i i'm thinking about it i could do just a few
00:38:56.540 here and there because i don't want to lose it now that i found it again right it's just too fun
00:39:01.420 it's just too fun to keep your brain firing on that level because it's people like us you know that
00:39:07.660 the people who are thinkers like we are how we put shit together for a bit we're the ones that gets
00:39:14.640 alzheimer
00:39:15.420 yeah i wouldn't be a bit goddamn surprised i think that's how it'll go right yeah something
00:39:24.380 like that i don't know oh i know that in my uh directive uh i want so i want to be kept alive
00:39:30.580 as long as i could possibly be kept alive and i want somebody wiping my ass until i'm in my
00:39:36.260 early hundreds and uh even if all i can do is chew oatmeal i don't want you to pull the plug on me i
00:39:43.120 want to live forever that's that's interesting you're the opposite i want to be an imposition
00:39:49.160 yeah i want to be an imposition i should look at it that way my worst nightmare is that i would
00:39:55.480 need my kids to take care of me and when i'm like incapable of taking care of myself because you
00:40:01.900 know i know they'd go like remember that time you you know right i'm not doing anything i'm not
00:40:08.360 changing a diaper or anything i'll say that right now i'm not doing it you're you're a better man than
00:40:12.640 me so i just want to go right if i get sick fuck it man i'm i'm out of here bring me a carton of
00:40:20.000 cigarettes and propofol that's what you want yeah i want the michael jackson drugs call those people
00:40:25.780 at hospice they bring a suicide kit to your house they do leave it on the counter not in i mean
00:40:32.320 that's what they all your big pain meds they just you're going a bag there if uh i love that shortcut
00:40:40.340 to this little thing i think they should offer that but no they always act like hospice is depressing
00:40:45.820 but it's like it literally they just want you to be comfortable while you die that's the whole thing
00:40:49.160 so you just sit and people bring the drugs you mean that's the best thing i think that everyone
00:40:53.760 should have that option if they're terminally ill you know or not just you probably don't be in a
00:41:00.240 freaking anti-trumper you probably oh boy what a guy can i ask you both i'm sorry can i ask you
00:41:12.220 both the question no yes as from like a plebe um you guys could could each one of you just give
00:41:19.800 advice to in your own words to like up and coming young comics that maybe haven't broken yet they're
00:41:25.500 gonna watch this that's a sweet question yeah but give me a lighter so i i gotta tell them i'll go
00:41:32.300 first okay i'll give you the last word yeah people gotta fucking huh you gotta smoke a lot of pot okay
00:41:38.760 that's rule number one and and uh i i always say my advice is don't do it unless you have to
00:41:48.780 unless you want to go unless you're willing to go through the negative side of it the pain of it
00:41:56.480 there's a lot of pain but it helps you grow you just keep plugging if you have to
00:42:02.920 well i would say not have to but if you want to if it sounds like it would be fun to you and you're
00:42:13.400 okay with doing it as a hobby and not making a dime off of it but if you think you're going to be
00:42:20.260 sitting on a couch someday with roseanne bar and ron white you're not so you're probably going to suck
00:42:26.300 at it but that doesn't mean it won't be fun so uh and then the big piece of advice and uh the common
00:42:33.840 denominator i think between but that all the only thing that all big comics have in common is that
00:42:40.940 they're true to their nature and uh because nothing else is interesting who you pretend to be is not
00:42:47.460 interesting to anybody but who you really are which is tougher than it sounds but if you can be who you
00:42:54.500 really are that is interesting so those two things don't expect anything out of it be willing to
00:43:01.240 give it everything and be true to who you are if you can and i'm going to tell you right now you can't
00:43:06.940 well is that the hardest one because you you know because you don't know who the fuck you are anyway
00:43:13.540 that's why you're a comic sometimes you don't you don't know how honest we'll be until you've heard
00:43:18.300 from somebody else you know oh i do that too you know i but i know that that's if you look at
00:43:26.000 kenison and cosby and and uh prior and and you and and uh that basically they were that's who they
00:43:36.380 were you know except for the raping that bill did well that was also who he was to be fair right
00:43:43.220 that's right that's right that was his nature but it never leaked into the show right no not at all
00:43:49.000 don't be yourself all the way have you ever well i think he had two two or three sounds have you
00:43:54.880 ever heard my bill cosby joke no let's hear it it's really short good let's hear it oh how do i do it
00:44:02.860 the bill cosby what bill did used to do was he would give women drugs and when they passed out he
00:44:09.600 would have sex with them but in bill's defense he explained to us years ago how much he hates
00:44:15.500 cursing and no one curses more than a wide awake woman who's being raped the language ladies
00:44:24.300 that's that's really good
00:44:27.320 oh my god he i think he's got two or three he's a severely divided person but you know what
00:44:37.500 you never didn't learn how to do stand-up watching bill cosby we all learned we all did bill cosby
00:44:43.620 himself was the best comedy special i believe ever made ever made and that was just a tight shot of
00:44:49.160 bill's face you know you can learn a lot about a comedy special by watching that one because it
00:44:54.840 wasn't complicated you know it was we all learned everything from him yep but he is like a tortured
00:45:01.500 soul well isn't that i mean i hear that a lot about comics like in general do you think ron
00:45:09.420 it's a just bunch of tortured souls damaged yeah i mean can you be funny if you're like
00:45:16.820 completely privileged your whole life you know just a question i guess you can in some way
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00:47:26.460 good stuff that's a real pain not the real agony of it who do you think let's let's get into this
00:47:34.540 for a few yeah who's the who do you think was the most tortured comic you ever knew well i knew i knew
00:47:42.180 headberg you know uh that was pretty pretty tortured fella and uh but just could not shake heroin to save
00:47:51.580 his life and and uh literally so what about you uh sam well sam was tortured sam kennison was really
00:48:04.220 tortured i thought yeah yeah uh mentally tortured um did you work with him yeah just at the store or did
00:48:14.460 you yeah uh he kind of came to colorado and you know helped me go to see mitzi him and louie anderson
00:48:22.660 oh okay i didn't know that was the sam you were talking about yeah but he he's mentally tortured
00:48:28.220 i mean i saw him do some weird shit at the store what you know he did weird shit at the store right i
00:48:35.860 don't know what weird shit he did well like with guns and drugs and shit well i know everybody was
00:48:42.060 doing drugs well everybody was doing that though right having guns and the cops coming hanging out
00:48:47.480 with them snorting coke and fucking conjuring up demons and stuff in the green room you know they
00:48:55.840 was doing all that kind of shit demons they were yeah praying to satan and all kind of shit
00:49:01.500 jeez uh i had a little weird i got a call one time and i and uh
00:49:08.300 one day and uh kennison was coming to town and labov uh poor carl uh was in rehabbers i forget why
00:49:18.320 he couldn't make it but it was last minute thing that he couldn't make it and so they said is there
00:49:22.980 anybody around that could do this spot and they're going around why it's all right you know and so they
00:49:27.320 gave me the spot at dallas county convention theater two thousand people sold out and it was a
00:49:32.620 remake so he'd already canceled it once and he was back again and uh and i get there his brother bill's
00:49:39.280 there and uh and he kind of explains that you know sometimes the opening act with sam is like a
00:49:45.420 sacrificial lamb so don't get thrown off if they hate you because they really just want to see sam
00:49:50.460 they want to scream they're going to start screaming and uh so uh well okay well you know and sam
00:49:58.880 wasn't there so they started the show and uh and i killed it was a great set he was looking out there
00:50:04.260 wow so he was going to stretch because sam still wasn't there well i didn't have much to stretch
00:50:09.620 with so you know i got to like 18 or 19 minutes and i'm like flat out of shit you know and uh leave
00:50:16.560 and sam's still not there and i'm sitting back in my little dressing room i got a little ice chest with
00:50:22.120 some beer and alec remundo and my first wife they were back there and then sam shows up now there's 15
00:50:28.220 people back there limos pull up and a big party and he had a two-room little dressing suite with
00:50:33.960 lobster and shit and and uh and his bodyguard came straight to get me now these people been waiting
00:50:39.680 20 minutes and uh said mr kennison wants to meet you and uh so uh it takes me back there and uh he
00:50:48.040 looks at me he's got a vial of blow and he's banging it on the table got a lock rock stuck in it and
00:50:54.020 uh he looks at me he goes heard you killed him cowboy and i said yeah that's a great uh crowd
00:50:59.460 you're gonna love him sam and he goes how about a cup of coffee like yeah why not you know sam
00:51:06.880 kennison fuck yeah so he did i did a rail and uh and then he did a huge rail and then he faked a
00:51:13.780 heart attack and nobody believed it but me because i guess they'd seen it all the time yeah so i was
00:51:19.900 about to start sucking face with him and he jumps up and let me show you how it's done and goes out
00:51:27.560 there and just annihilates this crowd and afterwards there were people there from the funny bone in the
00:51:31.940 and the laugh stop and the punch line at that show and they get the afterwards i was talking to them
00:51:39.160 and they and they were like let's go out to dinner and talk about your career that was on one shoulder
00:51:43.420 on the other shoulder was kennison going titty bars cocaine i'm like yeah i'm gonna have to talk to y'all
00:51:49.340 tomorrow i'm gonna go with shoulder b here and uh he was fucking great wasn't he yeah he was i mean
00:51:57.180 he was really in his prime uh at that show and i opened another one where he was just bouncing into a
00:52:04.620 club before a bigger date and uh horrible sad just uh he got there i was supposed to do 10 minutes and
00:52:11.820 he was gonna do all that was the headliner in the club that week and uh and i knew he wouldn't
00:52:15.240 remember me and he didn't but uh but i was supposed to do 10 minutes i did an hour and 20 minutes waiting
00:52:20.760 for him to get there and he got there and he had on his sunglasses like cookie crumbs down his shirt
00:52:25.860 and he was just a wreck and uh i mean barely got a laugh the whole time and then really
00:52:33.060 and then went in the office and slept on the floor and you know he was and that wasn't that long i don't
00:52:38.160 think before he passed away yeah didn't he get clean before he died he said he was got sober for a few
00:52:45.560 months and then he died and yeah he got hit by a drunk driver and they said his last words he looked up to
00:52:53.700 heaven and goes why now because it's like fuck now i'm sober right i wanted to go out like a rock star
00:53:00.320 right now i look like a pussy going out if i can get hit by a drunk driver sober right anybody can do that
00:53:06.400 it's easy but he he was just great to watch on stage you know that brings me to the subject of the comedy
00:53:13.960 store the the comics i saw there just you know i look back on my life and think
00:53:20.540 i saw richard pryor perform live i saw rodney dangerfeld i saw sam kennison i saw uh i think i saw
00:53:29.480 no i didn't see jerry seinfeld i saw him at the improv and i saw um just fucking great performers
00:53:37.100 um right there at the comedy store and i i have the feeling that that's how
00:53:43.040 the mothership's gonna be i mean it kind of is now but it'll probably grow in that that direction
00:53:50.760 yeah i wish some of the older ones would come out you know when i started going to the store
00:53:56.620 uh it was after i'd i'd already become a big comic and uh for years and uh but i'd moved to beverly hills
00:54:06.140 because i was gonna do something with hbo that didn't happen and so i started going down there
00:54:11.160 and doing sets but i really didn't know who the younger comics were and uh and i mean like anybody
00:54:18.540 so i was i didn't know sebastian maniscalco i was like patting him on the shoulder going you should
00:54:25.780 keep doing this he's playing the same fucking rooms i am you know then and i'm sure he's like fuck you
00:54:32.020 old man get the fuck away from me and ali wong i was just trying to encourage him because i had no
00:54:37.120 idea how fucking big they were because i just don't i'm i'm out of the loop yeah i'm out of the
00:54:42.360 loop i don't watch stand-up hardly at all so i don't either but you know it's cool to be back and
00:54:48.040 watching some young ones and going damn they're funny doing something different too i like that they
00:54:54.540 do something different right if you can see that yeah every time i write something it sounds like an
00:54:59.560 old man wrote it i know i was gonna say it is kind of like my references are so old like i last night
00:55:08.160 i talked about the jingles that are stuck in your head for for no reason like winston taste you're
00:55:14.560 probably no i remember like a cigarette should sure yeah for no reason it's in my head and it lives
00:55:21.120 there yeah rent-free none of them knew what i was talking about yeah i never i never heard that one
00:55:26.820 what about ayahuasca i need to know about that because i want to try it well i had a little
00:55:33.960 problem with alcohol and uh just a little one yeah just a little tiny one and uh and then i owned a
00:55:39.900 tequila company called number one tequila buy it at your store i have drank that that's wonderful
00:55:45.900 stuff i didn't know that was yours yeah it is oh cool and uh but um i just had a problem i was just
00:55:54.360 i beat my head against an alcohol wall every night for 50 years and or whatever and uh and i don't
00:56:03.160 know why to this day and it was just getting worse and i didn't think i could stop ever because it was
00:56:09.680 also ingrained in my personality and my show yeah it's what i was famous for you know and uh and
00:56:17.560 and i really just didn't think there was a life for me and i started getting really bad numbers
00:56:23.880 on my liver and uh so i'm like all right well i've heard that you know ayahuasca you know you but i
00:56:32.820 called ayahuasca the ayahuasca place which is the one i went to it's called rhythmia and that's in
00:56:37.740 costa rica and i told them how much i was drinking and they said nah you really can't come here because
00:56:43.140 we're not a detox facility and uh uh so you have to like not drink for a couple of weeks before you
00:56:50.140 come here and i'm like i can't do that that's crazy that ruins my plan so i knew about this hypnotist
00:56:57.240 uh that another guy that was real famous at my one of my assistants had worked for that he went to
00:57:04.840 this guy because he was out of control in every way he could be and he quit doing all of it so i'm
00:57:10.160 like well maybe i'll go to that guy so i went to that guy over in santa monica and his little house
00:57:14.460 he's in his garage so uh i went through it's four sessions with him the first one you don't
00:57:21.320 quit drinking he said at the end of you don't have to quit drinking now i'm like great great great i can
00:57:24.840 do that and then after the second one he was like now you don't drink and uh and uh i haven't had a
00:57:32.420 drink for two and a half years so wow i led by that led me to the ayahuasca i couldn't have set it up
00:57:39.960 any better you know i mean just the the way this place was was it's not expensive wow uh and air
00:57:48.220 conditioning the room yeah great air conditioning in the room that you that you do the ceremony in
00:57:54.040 is a it's probably there were like 50 of us i guess and everybody has their own little bed that's
00:57:59.800 really well made nice you know blankets and pillows and then a bucket to throw up in and uh
00:58:06.560 yeah don't you like throw up and shit yourself well you you either throw up or you shit yourself i was
00:58:13.020 uh i was one of the shitters and uh you do the way you do this in a room with 50 people
00:58:18.760 yeah and i would walk in after taking a shit seeing a bunch of people throwing up going
00:58:23.660 lucky because you can do that right in your bed you know you got a puke bucket you don't have a
00:58:28.940 shit bucket you got to get up and go but uh the guy it's it's pretty ceremonial you know now is that
00:58:37.960 just to empty you of all things in your it's the poison system i think it's whatever it is just
00:58:44.380 makes you puke i don't know i don't know i don't know why no ayahuasca makes you vomit and shit
00:58:49.140 yourself i know is that to empty out your system i think it's because it's a poison like alcohol it's
00:58:53.840 a poison certainly well they're all all things that get you higher technically a poison it certainly
00:58:58.320 emptied out my system if that was its intention okay that's what it did so then what well i stood
00:59:03.640 in line to get it my dose and i the the shaman there guys look at feathers and and what was the
00:59:09.980 dose in liquid or yeah liquid uh kind of a real thick really nasty stuff how much maybe an ounce and
00:59:18.760 a half like a shot glass and i did that i said so what do you do and he goes well outside there's
00:59:23.840 all these hammocks and a big fire it's really fucking pretty and he goes he just to go out
00:59:28.820 there and get in one of those hammocks until it's time to come in and i said well how do you know when
00:59:33.240 it's time to come in the guy goes oh you'll know and i was out there and i was coming on to these
00:59:39.220 things and i was like oh it's kind of like a light mushroom buzz kind of smooth and easy and then i
00:59:45.700 and i opened my mouth and the entire forest rushed down my throat and i was like it's probably time
00:59:52.400 to go in i bet that's the signal and uh right there so i went back in and laid down and on the bed
01:00:00.340 and it was just really really intense hard tripping uh what do you mean by tripping i've never done that
01:00:07.580 yeah well do you mean seeing things yeah like you know like somebody's skull if you looked at them
01:00:14.160 too close you'd see their skull instead of their face and it wasn't very pleasant at all i didn't
01:00:19.220 think and uh in fact it was so intense that i i couldn't even figure out how to i had my head it
01:00:26.580 so i just couldn't figure it out i'm like i know i have hands i know they're hooked to arms i know i've
01:00:32.600 got fingernails i could use one of those to scratch my head i give up i don't know and then somebody was
01:00:39.580 walked by and i that worked there and i said could you scratch my head i just don't have it
01:00:44.520 and they're like sure and i was i was fine but uh but i really you couldn't move so let me just
01:00:53.900 understand you you had no control of your body i think i could have done it but your brain didn't
01:01:00.120 want to kick in to say do it right yeah yeah just it we just it was i was just piece it together
01:01:05.740 off into it so deep because all your brains were involved in what thinking of what were they thinking
01:01:14.900 of uh these really dark images uh from my i guess from my past i don't know so you were seeing your
01:01:24.300 kind of your trauma passed before your eyes you know living it or what it's really kind of just
01:01:30.940 hard to describe and i considered not doing it again and because it was like just traumatic yeah
01:01:38.500 just really a traumatic evening of tripping how long did it go on shitting and tripping well that's the
01:01:44.480 beautiful thing about it that i didn't know is that it only lasts for a while and like how long it's
01:01:50.240 like two and a half hours or something like that too long uh but you can keep doing doses of it but
01:01:57.060 once it gets close to midnight they'll quit giving it to you and uh and also not everybody's having the
01:02:02.520 same experience that i am i'm laying on there just uh i can't get up at all and uh and there are people
01:02:09.300 dancing you know there's live music they get sitars and drums and stuff that'd make me want to kill
01:02:15.760 somebody if there's a fucking sitar well i don't know if that's exactly what it is a 12 string
01:02:21.200 something i think it was a sitar actually but it was you know just kind of groovy uh trip music so it
01:02:28.900 was nice uh but the next night it was uh i just had this overwhelming feeling of love
01:02:37.980 so you did it again after the traumatic night you go back yeah geez you're a trusting son of a gun
01:02:45.860 well you know i'd already bought the e-ticket so oh yeah you gotta go might as well go and
01:02:51.400 did you shoot yourself again the second night i still had the shits but but none of the really
01:02:56.960 downside of the trip it was all really light and lovely and oh and uh i was dancing and swaying and
01:03:05.060 and they have so your body worked you could give oh cool fully functioning and and uh but they also
01:03:12.060 have a rule that you can't talk to the other people oh i love that which is a great rule yeah
01:03:17.820 yeah that's a good one somebody trying to explain to you what's going on in their fucking head
01:03:21.480 yeah no kidding so you kind of you're with everybody but you don't talk to anybody that's cool
01:03:26.200 and then after on that one i could wander outside and get back in the hammocks and you know all kinds
01:03:31.220 of monkeys and shit oh i'd love to see monkeys oh they're monkeys costa rica is your place then
01:03:36.700 but uh and then i did it two more nights in a row and then the last night what was the third night
01:03:43.660 like like the nothing was like the first night oh they said it was like a death and a rebirth oh and
01:03:51.140 uh and then like an ego death or something i think so maybe you know then you come into love
01:03:59.200 and forgiveness oh cool third night what was the lesson third night uh i think they were just overall
01:04:08.120 uh lessons i mean i just i walked away from it well mostly you know forgiving myself oh that's great and
01:04:20.660 uh for any number of things that we can't get into and but but there you know there was plenty of
01:04:28.260 reasons for me to to be able to give myself a break you know that's cool and uh isn't that the
01:04:33.680 hardest fucking thing i was able to forgive everybody except one divorce lawyer and i just hate that
01:04:38.720 motherfucker so bad i just can't do it i'm like i i gave you everybody else i'm keeping this
01:04:43.880 motherfucker i'm gonna torture his ass in my hatred for him and uh and he deserves it so fuck him
01:04:51.160 but i forgave everybody else so that was pretty good and then yourself that's awesome that's the
01:04:56.960 hardest thing yeah yeah just how did that change you did that now how did that make you quit drinking
01:05:02.360 you know uh i'm not sure if that's what did it or if it was the hypnosis or i just came up with a
01:05:08.900 magical program that works which is hypnosis ayahuasca combo platter but that's that's what
01:05:14.580 i would be well maybe unloading your your sad baggage and trauma i think it's also helped don't
01:05:20.320 you think people drink or take too many drugs because they're trying to medicate the pain
01:05:24.700 i think so you know i think that you people want blinders they don't want to see and they don't want
01:05:30.160 to deal with it and you know too busy and but i think part of it is that i i you know i think that
01:05:38.360 that that that that that i needed both of those things i needed that medical information to stick
01:05:43.500 in my head that reminds you of the day your liver starts barking and i'm not preaching sobriety i don't
01:05:49.460 give a fuck in fact go buy number one tequila and get trashed with it every night for the rest of your
01:05:54.980 life and but once your liver actually makes a noise then your life has changed forever yeah it is
01:06:02.300 because you know it's it's very the liver is very quiet until it's too late and then and and so and i
01:06:09.220 know that right i didn't like i don't think i learned anything new uh but i learned it under hypnosis and
01:06:16.560 now i can't i can't unlearn it so i went to this fucking hypnosis shit i'll tell you what happened to me
01:06:23.420 um well i was going to hypnosis to quit smoking this was way before i quit smoking i've quit
01:06:30.920 smoking like 15 times for years yeah you're good at quitting yeah i'm really good at quitting
01:06:35.520 anyway and uh it was to quit smoking and lose weight hypnosis it was mrs brady's husband
01:06:44.720 on the brady bunch's husband the real guy yeah the actor florence henderson florence henderson's
01:06:51.480 husband had his own hypnosis clinic oh okay he was known for he's a big one so i go over there i'm
01:06:59.280 getting for losing weight and quit smoking well it happens to be across the street from tommy's big
01:07:04.740 boy hamburgers so before i go in there of course i go over there get a double cheeseburger and fries
01:07:12.760 the whole thing and eat it and then go over and get hypnotized to lose weight and uh quit smoking
01:07:19.580 that's like when people go into rehab loaded that's your version every week i always was always
01:07:26.480 would self-sabotage you know right well you know people say you know that uh it's weird that i'm
01:07:32.880 sober i'm not sober i just don't drink you know i i of course i smoke pot i just got through smoking
01:07:37.800 some but you know i also do but i mean it's good that you don't drink because you know if you did
01:07:43.620 it'd kill you you'd fuck up everything you'd lose everything you know it yeah it's good yeah alcohol's
01:07:50.800 a fucking demon it really is and you know it's kind of this younger generation's not drinking that much
01:07:56.740 is that true yeah they're not what are they doing taking fentanyl ketamine xanax yeah but they're not
01:08:04.240 drinking that's uh i just see i hear about it all the time and uh then the bar owners hate it because
01:08:09.240 they'll come in and drink water and oh ketamine party have you ever done ketamine yeah i did it too
01:08:16.800 i love it i you know what i i think i did too much uh and uh and it was right before it set
01:08:24.880 and uh and i'd never done it before and it was just a little overwhelming and i didn't that
01:08:30.740 i haven't really done it since but i asked my head shrinker if i can get some and get on it can you
01:08:37.500 yeah they prescribe it but you got to go to uh treatment but i'm gonna go because i just didn't
01:08:44.720 feel any of dark you know the dark fog that depressive dark fog it cut that right out and i was like
01:08:52.240 personable well i have enjoyed so much talking to you and having you here thank you so much for
01:09:05.880 coming you're interesting as fuck you're a great comic you're a good person thanks for having me
01:09:14.740 you're so sweet to ask uh you know that's uh the uh you know the first time that i that i saw you
01:09:23.040 was on the tonight show set and i knew for a fact that i'd never seen anybody this good on stage
01:09:29.960 before and such an original approach to stand-up comedy and uh was an instant fan so when you
01:09:36.360 first started coming down to the to the vulcan that was a big thrill you know for all of us and to
01:09:41.900 see you still had chops it was just the greatest thing so sweet and uh so we're glad to have you
01:09:48.180 down here and it was an absolutely uh pleasure to come down and do your podcast thank you and uh
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