The Roseanne Barr Podcast - August 08, 2025


ROSEANNE BARR IS AMERICA ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #110


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

176.26959

Word Count

11,091

Sentence Count

822

Misogynist Sentences

33

Hate Speech Sentences

58


Summary

Joel Gilbert, the filmmaker behind Roseanne Barr's America, joins me to talk about his new film about Roseanne's life and how he came up with the idea to make a documentary about her life and why he chose to make it.


Transcript

00:00:00.420 Greetings, Earthlings. This is Jake Pentland. My mother will not be able to host this week.
00:00:06.420 She's working on a very, very exciting project. It's good news. It's great for her.
00:00:12.100 Your boy, Jake Pentland, has been working hard in the background to make this happen.
00:00:15.960 I can't say any more, but you're going to be very, very happy, and soon. That's all I'm going to say.
00:00:21.520 But in the meantime, instead of taking the week off and losing our momentum and steam for this podcast,
00:00:25.340 since it's going to continue and she loves doing it, I just decided to fill in this week.
00:00:30.180 So hopefully you stick around. I know you're here for the Roseanne Barr podcast, not the Jake Pentland podcast.
00:00:34.440 But I have a great guest, and it's going to be a great show.
00:00:37.160 Joel Gilbert, the filmmaker behind Roseanne Barr's America, is on today.
00:00:41.400 And he made a great film about my mother, and I want to tell you about it, talk to him about it.
00:00:46.680 And that's it. So stick around. It's going to be a great show.
00:00:49.760 Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.
00:00:55.340 Well, I want to introduce to you guys, although you probably already know who he is,
00:01:02.160 because he's Steve Bannon's favorite filmmaker.
00:01:04.960 By the way, Joel, that was a very cool moment for us.
00:01:07.640 Joel Gilbert is the filmmaker and documentarian, I always have trouble saying that word,
00:01:12.740 behind many great films.
00:01:14.060 But my personal favorite, and I am biased, of course, is Roseanne Barr is America.
00:01:19.900 Joel came to the house. He filmed my mother. He did a great job.
00:01:23.620 And we were in D.C. last month promoting this film.
00:01:27.020 There was a little bit of a hiccup we'll talk about.
00:01:28.760 But long story short, it is available now.
00:01:31.200 It's available everywhere. I'll let you talk about that, Joel.
00:01:33.700 But it's a tremendous film.
00:01:35.660 And obviously, if you're watching this podcast, and you haven't, you know,
00:01:40.580 stopped watching because my mom's not here.
00:01:42.100 If you're a fan of this podcast, you're obviously a fan of Roseanne Barr.
00:01:45.620 And Joel, I just want to say thank you again.
00:01:47.640 You did her right.
00:01:48.800 And it's rare the story of my mother is told properly.
00:01:53.020 And I just want to say I'm very happy with the project.
00:01:57.140 Okay, I'm happy to hear that.
00:01:58.840 Well, you know, a lot of people know me from my films, like Dreams for My Real Father,
00:02:04.080 about Obama's background, the Trayvon hoax, where I blew the lid off the woke hoax
00:02:09.700 that was the Trayvon Martin case, where they set up George Zimmerman with a fake witness
00:02:14.020 and started the whole Black Lives Matter movement out of that.
00:02:17.840 So I do appear in a lot of my films to take people around on kind of a journey of discovery.
00:02:22.960 I went to Florida and met Trayvon's real girlfriend who really was on the phone with him,
00:02:27.020 who they swapped out for a fake witness.
00:02:29.600 I did a film about Michelle Obama.
00:02:31.280 I took you to Chicago.
00:02:32.840 But when I talked to your mom, Roseanne Barr, and reviewed a lot of her material,
00:02:36.760 I realized that I got to make a different kind of film because your mom has just a tremendous
00:02:43.900 charisma on camera.
00:02:46.200 Roseanne is a great storyteller in her own right.
00:02:48.600 So I just, from the get-go, I said the best way to make this film is just to get out of
00:02:52.380 the way and let Roseanne tell her own story.
00:02:56.200 Because I felt from reviewing a lot of the news coverage of your mom the last few years,
00:03:03.160 there were just bits and pieces of her story about her biography growing up, how she was
00:03:08.240 successful, became a comedy legend and icon, and then the whole cancellation thing where
00:03:14.980 they targeted her for being a Trump supporter when the media was in a frenzy to try to smear
00:03:21.600 Donald Trump and his supporters as racist and how your mom kind of recovered from that.
00:03:26.920 So I felt it really could only be told as a complete story.
00:03:30.120 And there's no greater storyteller and a person who, you know, just is so hilarious and fun
00:03:37.500 to watch.
00:03:38.580 So that's how I approached the film from the get-go.
00:03:40.820 We sat your mom down for two long interviews, three hours on two days, about six hours.
00:03:46.460 And from that, I edited in what I'm very proud of is a 90-minute full-length documentary
00:03:52.340 interview called Roseanne Barr is America.
00:03:54.640 And when you watch the film, you realize why Roseanne Barr is America, because she grew
00:04:00.120 up in Salt Lake City in an immigrant Jewish family with Holocaust survivors, overcame tremendous
00:04:07.900 obstacles growing up that a lot of people don't know about, went out to Hollywood and became
00:04:12.400 an immediate sensation with her incredible personality, her working class background that
00:04:18.280 people, you know, just, you know, latched on to.
00:04:24.140 And it's just been, she's had just a tremendous, fascinating life.
00:04:27.880 And so many people love her.
00:04:29.200 So that's how the movie came about.
00:04:31.340 And I've had a distributor for about over 20 years, and they were happy to put it out on
00:04:36.580 DVD.
00:04:37.360 It's also available on all the big live stream and video on demand forums, YouTube movies,
00:04:42.860 Apple TV, you know, you name it, you should find it, Amazon Prime.
00:04:47.520 And I think it's going to be a big movie for a long time to come.
00:04:51.340 Yeah, I agree.
00:04:52.140 Well, first of all, yeah, obviously, we won't, if you haven't seen the movie, I want you to
00:04:56.480 go see it, because it's great.
00:04:59.140 And I am, there's no bigger fan of my mom than me.
00:05:03.220 And like I said, you know, it's...
00:05:05.880 That's where maybe me, we've argued about this.
00:05:07.920 Yeah, well, it's...
00:05:09.300 Not resolved, it's unresolved.
00:05:10.800 It's unresolved.
00:05:11.380 But what's interesting to me about my mother is like, I, my relationship with my mother
00:05:15.780 is unusual in a lot of ways, because I work for her, we do this podcast together, I'm
00:05:22.320 able to objectively remove myself as her son, and view her as a fan.
00:05:28.040 I have never seen her story properly told up until that point, until your film.
00:05:34.220 So if you're a fan of my mom, again, Roseanne Bars America, go check it out.
00:05:37.560 And I want to talk specifically about what you captured, which is my favorite thing about
00:05:40.940 my mother, is she's the voice of the voiceless.
00:05:46.600 It's just something in her body.
00:05:49.120 It's a gift from God.
00:05:50.540 And no matter what time, what place, what's going on in the world, she is able to put herself
00:05:56.760 in the shoes of the people that are sort of being walked over or ignored.
00:06:00.680 She feels compelled to defend them.
00:06:03.380 And it's fascinating to me, because she is able to change with the landscape of politics
00:06:09.160 and the landscape of America, has shown that history for 40, 50 years now, that whoever
00:06:13.900 that group is, she's going to defend.
00:06:16.680 And it's rare for anybody, especially an entertainer, to rise above their biases and their political
00:06:24.040 groups and whatever to defend the voiceless people.
00:06:26.500 It really comes from her heart and from God.
00:06:30.860 And it's tremendous to watch.
00:06:32.800 What's really fascinating to me, Roseanne Barr is America, is that she has never changed,
00:06:39.620 but America has.
00:06:40.720 And you can really view the lens of America through her story, because she was once canceled
00:06:46.560 by the American right after the national anthem.
00:06:51.420 You know, they thought she spit on the flag, and George Bush Sr. went after her.
00:06:55.540 The show took a lot of heat, and she was seen as sort of like this liberal communist pushing
00:07:00.740 the gay agenda on television and destroying the family.
00:07:04.640 And, you know, she was standing up at that time for gays who were voiceless at that time.
00:07:14.160 And she stood up for them when they became part of the LGBTQ mafia that she talks about,
00:07:18.600 and they got all this political power.
00:07:20.480 She didn't defend them as much.
00:07:22.180 She started to defend the working class of America that was being ignored by corporations
00:07:27.780 and the American government.
00:07:29.640 And that's how she led into the MAGA movement, because that is what MAGA stands for.
00:07:34.460 And right now, MAGA is shifting, and she's now moving to a new group that she feels is voiceless.
00:07:41.480 And that's just interesting to me that my mom is sort of this, I don't know how to describe
00:07:46.480 it, this immovable force that the world kind of moves through.
00:07:49.960 She's this filter.
00:07:50.840 And wherever you know people are being wronged, that's where she'll be.
00:07:54.360 And I find that tremendous and fascinating, and not everybody knows that.
00:07:58.460 And you did.
00:07:59.100 You do know that.
00:08:00.260 Yeah, I mean, I learned a tremendous amount about Roseanne, about your mom, from researching
00:08:05.880 and interviewing her and creating the film.
00:08:09.620 And one of the things I learned that I did not know is she even said it.
00:08:14.880 It's in clips in the movie where she's actually telling a reporter back in the 90s, she says,
00:08:20.180 the Roseanne show is an anti-television show.
00:08:23.980 It's just that the executives don't realize it.
00:08:26.940 And so she was kind of battling the executives and battling the writers from the get-go.
00:08:30.960 And she talked about, when you watch the movie, Roseanne Barr is America, she talks about how
00:08:36.520 all her comedy really was political from the beginning.
00:08:40.120 So it shouldn't have been surprising that she did decide to go into politics and run
00:08:44.700 for president.
00:08:45.680 She made that film about her run for president in 2012, called Roseanne for President.
00:08:51.460 And, you know, she gave a hell of a good political speech.
00:08:56.120 And as you said, she really represented the voiceless, and she was the first person to
00:09:01.680 combine comedy and politics.
00:09:03.840 It really hadn't been done.
00:09:05.520 And when you see the early Donald Trump, I actually made a movie about Trump called
00:09:10.060 Trump, the Art of the Insult, which is hilarious.
00:09:12.980 It's from the 2016 campaign.
00:09:15.220 It's basically Donald Trump doing stand-up.
00:09:17.380 The whole campaign, she's just being funny.
00:09:20.540 And I'm sure he got that idea from Roseanne Barr, who in 2012 was the first to combine
00:09:27.800 comedy and politics.
00:09:28.840 She ran against Romney and Obama, and she was hilarious, and she made them look pretty
00:09:35.060 boring.
00:09:36.220 And I think Donald Trump picked up on that.
00:09:38.460 So I think Roseanne Barr was the first Donald Trump when it comes to politics, and Donald
00:09:42.840 Trump just kind of took it to the next level.
00:09:44.780 But Roseanne is the original, I think, originator of bringing entertainment and comedy to politics.
00:09:50.540 Which I think ultimately made Donald Trump a success.
00:09:54.180 I mean, that's an interesting perspective.
00:09:55.840 She would tell you it was Dick Gregory that inspired her, because I would retort.
00:10:01.820 Again, I love what you're saying, but I think there have been other people that have kind
00:10:05.260 of ran as president, kind of in a joking matter.
00:10:07.880 I forget the guy's name.
00:10:08.900 Don't steal this book.
00:10:09.820 Was it Abbie Hoffman or something?
00:10:11.840 Don't quote me on any of that.
00:10:13.140 But there have been a history of comedians doing this, but she took it very seriously.
00:10:17.260 She actually got on the state ballot.
00:10:18.420 She finished fourth, fifth.
00:10:19.440 She went for the nomination.
00:10:22.900 And I think that's the difference.
00:10:24.900 And there's a line in that documentary, Roseanne Barr for president, where she says, I am the
00:10:29.940 only serious comedian in the race.
00:10:32.800 And that's my favorite joke of hers of all time, because it did kind of highlight the
00:10:37.340 fact that Romney and Obama were trying to be charming and funny.
00:10:43.400 And also, a lot of their policies were laughable.
00:10:46.080 So she saw herself as the most serious contender.
00:10:48.860 She really did.
00:10:49.880 And she was a comedian.
00:10:51.460 But in some sense, society sometimes requires people to step outside the box and look at
00:10:58.860 it objectively to really tell you what you don't see when you're caught up in the day
00:11:04.360 to day.
00:11:04.700 And I love that she's done that as well.
00:11:07.040 I want to tell you a real quick story.
00:11:08.240 I know I'm blabbering.
00:11:09.040 But when my mom got the show, right?
00:11:12.000 She got Roseanne.
00:11:12.740 She was a housewife.
00:11:13.900 This is all true.
00:11:14.560 I was there.
00:11:15.500 Hey, guys.
00:11:15.960 It's Jake here.
00:11:16.860 As you know, I'm an old middle-aged man who's graying and bald.
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00:11:25.340 So life insurance is something that I look into all of the time.
00:11:28.660 But as I was investigating and talking to my brother-in-law, Josh, who many of you know
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00:11:50.400 You pay it, the whole thing.
00:11:51.900 And then if something, God forbid, happens and you, while you're alive, need that money, you
00:11:57.020 don't have to wait until you're dead or go to your family when it could have helped save
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00:12:32.960 It's a game changer and I highly recommend you do it.
00:12:36.660 You know, she started stand up as a hobby.
00:12:39.480 It went really well for it.
00:12:40.580 It went really fast.
00:12:42.480 And, you know, in a matter of, I think it was like six, seven years, she had the number
00:12:46.920 one show on television from when she started.
00:12:49.140 Maybe eight years, whatever.
00:12:50.220 But the point was, she gets the show and we moved to L.A.
00:12:54.860 And now, you know, my mom that was making hamburger help her at the table while my dad worked
00:13:00.860 for the post office is bringing home a tape that was a pilot.
00:13:04.500 You know, it was the Roseanne show.
00:13:05.880 It was called Life and Stuff.
00:13:07.000 But it had Goodman on it.
00:13:08.200 And we were watching it.
00:13:09.460 And I was young.
00:13:10.300 I was 11.
00:13:10.840 And I remember when she put the tape in, going, wow, my mom's getting a TV show.
00:13:15.180 This is crazy, right?
00:13:17.360 And she watched the episode and took the tape out and started crying.
00:13:22.760 And I was like, oh, these must be tears of happiness because she made it.
00:13:26.660 She was plucked from obscurity.
00:13:28.600 And she hated the episode.
00:13:30.440 Hated it.
00:13:33.040 And my dad had to talk her down.
00:13:35.500 I remember this night.
00:13:36.760 I'll always remember this night.
00:13:38.000 He's like, you have a show.
00:13:38.800 Like, what are you doing?
00:13:39.380 You're in Hollywood now.
00:13:40.120 Like, you've given it.
00:13:41.260 You've gotten everything you wanted.
00:13:43.740 And she hated it.
00:13:44.800 And she went to the studio the next day and demanded rewrites and started fighting when
00:13:50.100 it was still in pilot form.
00:13:52.100 And they tried to fire her.
00:13:54.000 So when I say my mom comes from a place, from her heart and from God, I'm talking the
00:13:59.560 truth because everybody else, I don't care who you are, how pious or deep you think you
00:14:05.660 are.
00:14:06.300 I guarantee you, if every one of us was given a show, we would do whatever.
00:14:10.120 The network says, we would sell whatever product they want.
00:14:13.360 We'd be so happy to have that sort of power.
00:14:17.260 And she looked at it as like, they don't get her.
00:14:19.600 And she went to war and she won.
00:14:21.520 And that, to me, that is the most American thing because an outlaw with success and still staying
00:14:29.780 an outlaw, that's a true American spirit.
00:14:32.760 It's awesome to watch.
00:14:33.740 Well, it happened to her both in the entertainment world and in politics where there was a set
00:14:39.900 formula that had been existing for years of how an entertainment show and a comedy show
00:14:46.100 is how it's supposed to go, who the characters are supposed to be.
00:14:50.980 She mentions in the film that in the first go-round of her script, her husband was a Hollywood
00:14:57.560 guy and she'd seen that a hundred times.
00:14:59.800 So they had this formula and they expected Roseanne to fit into it and simply do their
00:15:06.000 bidding.
00:15:06.760 And your mom had none of it.
00:15:08.460 And she said, no, we're going to have an actual show because I want to be number one and I
00:15:11.940 want to relate to real people, not these bougie characters that you've been running for 30
00:15:17.440 years.
00:15:17.800 And the same thing happened to her in politics where the Democrat party at that time, Barack
00:15:23.040 Obama, Mitt Romney, presidential politics was just based on this formula.
00:15:26.700 You go and talk to some donors, you put out some ads, you do a couple of speeches, it's
00:15:31.700 all formulaic.
00:15:33.120 And your mom came to break that formula and be herself.
00:15:36.680 And lo and behold, average people, average voters, just like the average television viewer
00:15:42.840 could relate to that, could relate to your mom.
00:15:45.760 And we're sick of these formulaic agendas that were being pushed from above.
00:15:53.140 Absolutely.
00:15:53.940 And she'll, she continues to fight that.
00:15:55.640 I think she, she views formula as a challenge.
00:15:58.500 Like it's a mold to break, which is also very American.
00:16:03.340 And I want to talk about some of your other, I mean, we've talked about Rose and again,
00:16:07.420 check out Roseanne Bars America.
00:16:10.200 It's available everywhere.
00:16:11.340 Go to the website, roseanneisamerica.com, watch the trailer, and that'll link you up
00:16:16.760 where to get the movie, roseanneisamerica.com.
00:16:19.420 But you've made other films and I admire your work, Joel.
00:16:22.540 I don't want to just talk about the Roseanne is America, Roseanne Bars America documentary.
00:16:27.180 But, you know, you mentioned the Trayvon hoax and I, I don't know, most people don't
00:16:33.020 know this about me because I deleted it off the internet when cancel culture came because
00:16:37.760 it was pretty racy stuff that I was doing.
00:16:39.620 But I used to do a podcast and I actually remember when the Trayvon story was breaking.
00:16:45.320 It's fascinating to me, that case, because I've seen this pattern repeat where you can
00:16:52.520 see pretty quick.
00:16:53.480 If you're a little bit sharp and a little bit aware, you can kind of see the narrative
00:16:58.200 machine early on.
00:16:59.560 And I remember when the Zimmerman case started, the Trayvon case, they'd lightened his skin
00:17:04.220 because it was a white guy shoots black kid.
00:17:06.600 Well, Zimmerman was kind of brownish.
00:17:10.620 And I remember the news reports.
00:17:12.360 They were actually photoshopping his skin like they did to Joe Rogan with COVID when they
00:17:15.940 made him look green when he was talking about ivermectin.
00:17:18.060 And they also scrubbed Trayvon's Twitter.
00:17:22.400 At the time, he had one called No Nonsense Nigga.
00:17:26.260 And he had been getting gotten in trouble at school for stealing jewelry and all sorts
00:17:29.580 of shit.
00:17:30.100 And they took and started posting photos of when he was like 11 or 12 years old.
00:17:33.660 And it was like the sweet young boy.
00:17:34.900 And this happened like within the first day of the shooting.
00:17:39.120 So I, being someone who's grown up in this business and pretty aware, I'd like to think,
00:17:43.540 saw this as like, okay, there is a machine behind this story.
00:17:46.860 The facts aren't getting out.
00:17:48.140 And I started to report on the facts.
00:17:50.000 In that case, 100% was a hoax.
00:17:53.440 And I just want to say thank you.
00:17:55.080 That's another documentary you can check out of Joel's.
00:17:57.700 And that's excellent.
00:17:58.340 I can tell you that, look, in a quick synopsis is the Trayvon Martin trial, the trial of George
00:18:05.680 Zimmerman, the whole thing was a political hit job to help the Democrat Party, because
00:18:10.020 Barack Obama had done nothing for the black community as president, and the election was
00:18:15.280 coming up.
00:18:15.940 And they were desperate to try to get the black vote out again.
00:18:18.560 They weren't going to come out for Obama.
00:18:20.520 Economy had gotten worse.
00:18:21.820 Illegals took jobs.
00:18:23.500 Obama didn't have any black people in his administration.
00:18:25.940 And he kind of got exposed through for what he is.
00:18:29.340 He's a white guy from Hawaii that was raised with white grandparents and had nothing in
00:18:35.500 common with black people, had no common experiences.
00:18:38.300 He didn't know any of them except for Michelle Obama, who was like Barack.
00:18:42.500 He, she was afraid of black people.
00:18:44.600 She grew up, she got beat up by the black kids, would beat her up, accuse her of acting white
00:18:49.020 and talking white.
00:18:50.500 And Obama did nothing for black people.
00:18:53.600 So they wanted to inflame the black community.
00:18:55.940 And they stumbled upon this case where the local police in Sanford, Florida, had exonerated
00:19:02.260 George Zimmerman.
00:19:02.980 They said this is a pure self-defense case.
00:19:04.700 They had a eyewitness, Jonathan Good, that said, yeah, Trayvon was beating the crap out
00:19:09.540 of him, MMA style.
00:19:11.140 And George was screaming for help.
00:19:14.160 Zimmerman eventually fires one shot to save his life from choking to death on his broken
00:19:18.540 nose and being pummeled to death.
00:19:20.680 And when Crump, Ben Crump, and Al Sharpton went down with all these street protests, that's
00:19:26.520 when, you know, Crump held a press conference and played an audio tape.
00:19:31.920 And he said, this is Trayvon's 16-year-old girlfriend.
00:19:34.660 And he played a tape of her saying stuff, but it didn't really, she didn't really say anything.
00:19:39.000 And Crump said, we've got all the evidence now.
00:19:41.660 Arrest George Zimmerman.
00:19:42.420 And Obama picked up on it, the FBI got involved, and they demanded Zimmerman be arrested.
00:19:48.780 Now, I remember when Rachel Gentile showed up a year later, the public, she was 19 years
00:19:56.160 old, weighed 200 pounds more than Trayvon, and went to a different school.
00:20:00.080 And she didn't sound anything like the girl on that tape.
00:20:02.540 I remember thinking that in 2012, but hadn't investigated it at the time.
00:20:07.900 And I can tell you that very problematic, our Attorney General Pam Bondi under Trump,
00:20:14.480 the mega Attorney General I'm very concerned about, because it was Pam Bondi who was
00:20:18.540 the Attorney General of Florida at the time.
00:20:21.280 And Pam Bondi, instead of saying, I'm going to look at the evidence from the investigation
00:20:25.820 and say, oh, sorry, Ben Crump.
00:20:27.800 Sorry, Al Sharpton.
00:20:28.860 Sorry, Obama.
00:20:29.580 This has been investigated.
00:20:31.720 It's self-defense.
00:20:32.700 See you later.
00:20:33.720 Instead, she caved into the mob.
00:20:35.380 She appointed a special prosecutor that indicted George Zimmerman.
00:20:39.020 She defended Ben Crump, said that Trayvon's parents were her friends.
00:20:43.400 So Pam Bondi had no backbone.
00:20:45.140 She caved into the mob.
00:20:46.180 So I have a lot of concerns whether Pam Bondi will execute the MAGA agenda, because I don't
00:20:51.760 know if Trump knows her history as really being responsible for Black Lives Matter, because
00:20:56.500 Black Lives Matter was founded based on Zimmerman, of course, being exonerated because he was
00:21:00.900 innocent.
00:21:01.260 But if Pam Bondi had a backbone, there would be no Black Lives Matter, no Ferguson, no George
00:21:06.960 Floyd.
00:21:08.280 So Mike Brown, you know, part of that narrative machine was the hands up, don't shoot of Mike
00:21:15.080 Brown, who was shot by a police officer.
00:21:17.020 And they said he was shot, you know, in the head, in the back.
00:21:20.460 And they made up all the hands up, don't shoot.
00:21:22.340 That never happened.
00:21:24.020 That was a lie.
00:21:25.600 And he actually, when they went back to the evidence, he was actually reaching into the
00:21:29.000 police crews or trying to grab the gun at the cop.
00:21:32.160 Yeah.
00:21:32.420 And a lot of people don't know or forgot about the case right after the George Floyd incident
00:21:37.200 six months later, the Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia.
00:21:40.220 Yes.
00:21:41.220 Very similar to the Zimmerman case.
00:21:42.900 Travis McMichael recognized with his father this jogger, Arbery.
00:21:47.220 They recognized him from some videotape from a previous robbery.
00:21:50.640 They followed him and just said, hey, the cops are coming.
00:21:52.720 We called the cops.
00:21:54.200 And please wait for the cops, just like Zimmerman tried to follow Trayvon to keep eyes on him
00:21:59.420 until the cops came.
00:22:01.060 And McMichaels ended up parking their car in the street and Arbery approaches them and then
00:22:07.880 rushes and attacks McMichael, who's holding a rifle, suicidal attack.
00:22:14.040 At least Trayvon Martin didn't know that Zimmerman had a gun.
00:22:16.640 In this case, he knows he's got a gun.
00:22:18.680 He's smashing him in the face, trying to take his gun away.
00:22:21.320 So there was a self-defense shooting.
00:22:23.280 McMichael shot him to try to save his life from losing his weapon and being shot.
00:22:28.500 And sure enough, Crump and Sharpton showed up, street protests, even though they were exonerated
00:22:34.120 by the videotape.
00:22:35.440 And they got life without parole in a horrific woke justice case that I'm also following.
00:22:42.420 But in the Trayvon case, I actually found out, I found the real girlfriend.
00:22:46.080 Diamond Eugene.
00:22:47.380 And she was on the phone with Trayvon before he was shot.
00:22:51.060 But she had another boyfriend who was kind of playing Trayvon at the time.
00:22:54.700 And she didn't want to lie to the police.
00:22:56.500 She didn't want the police, you know, to out her.
00:22:59.560 So after meeting with Ben Crump and Trayvon's parents, she refused to testify.
00:23:04.080 So they swapped her out for Rachel Gentile, who was her half-sister, two years older, 200
00:23:08.820 pounds heavier than Trayvon, who just lied and lied.
00:23:12.080 But if you watch my film, The Trayvon Hoax, when she was interviewed by the police, I'm
00:23:16.960 sorry, by the prosecutors the first time, at the end of the interview, she actually admitted
00:23:20.900 she didn't know anything.
00:23:21.960 She said, I feel guilty six times.
00:23:24.300 They said, why do you feel guilty?
00:23:25.400 I got it on tape.
00:23:26.480 She said, I ain't know anything.
00:23:27.840 I ain't know anything.
00:23:29.360 And they ignored her.
00:23:30.840 So it's been a rough few years with all these cases.
00:23:35.580 It's all based on these media hoaxes.
00:23:37.780 And certainly Roseanne has been one that is fighting these narratives and media hoaxes.
00:23:42.680 And she was, as we get into the Roseanne Barr's America film, we really dissect how she was
00:23:48.600 canceled back in 2018.
00:23:51.500 Well, it was a very funny, edgy tweet.
00:23:53.640 I mean, your mom's a comedian.
00:23:55.200 She put out this tweet.
00:23:56.400 It was during the time that she was talking to Iranians about the Iranian nuclear program.
00:24:01.720 She'd been in touch with Iranian anti-hijab activists.
00:24:05.400 Valerie Jarrett said she was born in Iran.
00:24:07.560 Everybody thought she was Iranian.
00:24:08.760 So your mom put out the tweet that said, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood, which is an
00:24:12.300 organization which wants to take control.
00:24:14.440 And the Planet of the Apes movie, which is this big militaristic world, you know, world
00:24:20.680 conquest, had a baby.
00:24:22.440 It'd be Valerie Jarrett.
00:24:23.380 That was very funny.
00:24:25.140 Greatest tweet of all time.
00:24:26.340 My favorite tweet ever.
00:24:27.560 Yeah.
00:24:27.860 So, you know, within moments they said, they called your mom and said, did you know Valerie
00:24:32.140 Jarrett was 10% black or whatever it was?
00:24:34.400 No.
00:24:35.620 And then, well, it must be because you're racist.
00:24:38.120 And so they were trying to target and smear Trump supporters as racist.
00:24:41.960 And your mom was the most high profile one because she was a Trump supporter in real life
00:24:46.680 and on her television show where she was trying to reconcile things.
00:24:51.060 The whole premise of the show was we have a Trump supporter and a Hillary supporter living
00:24:55.040 under the same roof and we still love each other.
00:24:57.820 So your mom was just such a humanitarian, civil rights activist, gay rights activist.
00:25:04.020 So just the very idea that they would put through these charges, oh, well, you meant to be racist.
00:25:10.720 The worst thing that should have happened is they would have said, oh, well, you didn't
00:25:14.600 know she was black like so many other people.
00:25:16.420 So just forget it.
00:25:17.700 That's what they should have done.
00:25:19.180 Well, they would have if she had supported Hillary Clinton.
00:25:21.160 That would have happened.
00:25:21.460 They would have.
00:25:23.280 You'll see in the film at the same time, Whoopi Goldberg, Samantha Bee made vile anti-Semitic
00:25:29.020 comments and smeared horrible sexual innuendos against Ivanka Trump.
00:25:36.740 And they, oh, I just apologize.
00:25:38.060 No problem.
00:25:38.920 Jesse Jackson, vile anti-Semitic comments.
00:25:42.620 Oh, no problem.
00:25:43.860 You're forgiven.
00:25:45.100 But for Republicans, the cancel culture is intended as a political tool to disenfranchise people
00:25:52.160 that don't agree with the big narrative.
00:25:54.360 And I think your mom has fought back from it.
00:25:58.260 And I think the film is going to be very successful and really hit home for people.
00:26:03.200 Yeah.
00:26:03.420 I mean, like I said, she's never changed.
00:26:05.400 That fight's always been the same.
00:26:07.220 And it's even bigger than my mother.
00:26:10.200 We can see.
00:26:11.600 I mean, we've been through COVID now.
00:26:14.340 Those of us that are aware, and I'm seeing something right now I talk about all the time
00:26:18.920 that I don't know if everyone's caught up to.
00:26:20.380 But you definitely can see, if you're sharp, you can see this overarching, whoever is controlling
00:26:27.400 the narrative, disperse the information they want to disperse.
00:26:31.680 And they'll lie, cheat, and steal.
00:26:33.020 And if you call it out, you're the one that gets ran over, labeled, disenfranchised, deplatformed,
00:26:38.780 canceled, whatever.
00:26:39.520 It's a story as old as time.
00:26:40.780 It's not unique to America.
00:26:41.940 This is always how human nature has gone.
00:26:44.680 If they don't like you telling the truth, they'll silence you.
00:26:47.040 It goes back to, I mean, Galileo was killed for suggesting we went around the sun, right?
00:26:53.620 So this is a story as old as time.
00:26:55.740 What I just find so fascinating is, and I don't want to spin this off because we're here
00:27:00.280 to talk about your films, but just something I'm thinking about this morning is how can
00:27:04.720 a group, and I'm talking now about the woke right MAGA group that I'm currently at war
00:27:10.420 with, how can people that are so sharp and saw through Trayvon and saw through Mike Brown
00:27:15.180 and saw through Obama and saw through COVID and saw through all the indictments of Trump,
00:27:21.420 Hillary Clinton, like the whole mass marketing brainwashing campaign at some levels where
00:27:27.340 it's on a global scale.
00:27:29.000 And we held our ground.
00:27:30.860 We saw through it.
00:27:32.200 And it's so shocking to me that today, those same people that were so aware do not see
00:27:37.800 it happening to them right now.
00:27:40.780 In regards, of course, I don't want to spin this off, but how everything is just so anti-Israel
00:27:48.180 and anti-Jew right now, and you're singing on this thing, and it's like, how are you guys
00:27:52.280 not sharp now?
00:27:53.080 You've been through Mike Brown, Trayvon, Trump, COVID, and I can name a million other things.
00:27:57.040 How are you not seeing the same media machine at play?
00:28:00.560 And what is different now to where you're manipulated, to where you've lost your sense
00:28:06.180 and healthy, what's the word I'm looking for, where you just don't believe it, you're a
00:28:12.760 critic, what's the word?
00:28:13.900 Skeptical.
00:28:14.700 Yeah, your healthy skepticism, like it's gone, it's out the window.
00:28:17.780 And it's just, it's very weird to me, because when we talk about your films or my mom's history,
00:28:23.140 there are quite a few of us that have been right now for a long fucking time.
00:28:29.240 Like, we're not new to being right.
00:28:31.120 We're not new to being in the minority and fighting the oppressive majority that controls
00:28:35.500 all speech.
00:28:36.160 This is a Tuesday for us.
00:28:38.020 So it's just very scary that now we're at a part where the people that are as smart as
00:28:41.860 us are now a victim to it.
00:28:44.560 Yeah, it's, look, it's pretty disappointing when you see people that should know better
00:28:48.880 tend to get sucked into these fake narratives again.
00:28:53.920 And it is happening as regard to the Middle East, there's always something shocking going
00:28:57.640 on.
00:28:58.980 One of my good friends in Australia named John Ruddock is with a libertarian party there,
00:29:03.980 very skeptical guy, full of common sense.
00:29:06.240 He actually invited me over and showed, I showed my climate hoax movie over there in Australia
00:29:11.860 last year, The Climate According to A.I.
00:29:13.780 Al Gore.
00:29:14.140 So John Ruddock is a hardcore common sense libertarian over in Australia.
00:29:20.020 He just came out with all this crazy mumbo jumbo anti-Israel rhetoric for no reason.
00:29:27.620 He should know better.
00:29:29.220 So I've been like writing him emails.
00:29:31.000 I'm going to talk to him and say, look, here's what's going on.
00:29:35.180 Hamas would not compromise or give up the hostages.
00:29:39.320 If they had six months ago and the war ended, Emmanuel Macron would not be recognizing a
00:29:45.820 Palestinian state.
00:29:46.960 John Ruddock in Australia wouldn't come out with this anti-Israel stuff.
00:29:50.500 It's simply because these people that should know better, they say, well, Hamas won't cooperate.
00:29:56.120 There's nothing we can do.
00:29:57.720 The only person we can really talk to is our ally.
00:30:00.160 So let's go ahead and turn on our ally because we have to do something.
00:30:04.040 So it's very shallow thinking and it's disappointing when they don't understand and learn the lesson
00:30:12.560 of previous hoaxes and what these people are really up to.
00:30:17.160 But I think your mum has been so steadfast for so many years in standing up to each one of these
00:30:23.340 things as they come up.
00:30:24.560 So as we said at the beginning, I'm a big fan and we still don't know who the biggest fan is.
00:30:29.780 Yeah.
00:30:31.040 And, you know, apart from all your films, you are an expert in the Middle East.
00:30:37.400 I mean, remember you telling me this in D.C. when we were doing the press tour for this.
00:30:40.900 I found that so fascinating.
00:30:41.840 You're an actual expert.
00:30:42.880 You like degrees and the whole deal, right?
00:30:45.760 Yeah.
00:30:46.120 I studied Middle East history.
00:30:48.360 I speak Hebrew and Arabic and lived in the region.
00:30:51.960 I actually lived in a dormitory at the University of London where I went to the School of the
00:30:58.020 University of London, School of Oriental and African Studies.
00:31:01.180 I actually lived with many students from the Arab and Muslim world and that was an education.
00:31:05.980 That was like my Ph.D. talking to these guys.
00:31:09.660 And I learned a lot about the mentality of the Middle East and the movement of Islamism,
00:31:15.500 which Western countries don't understand quite well.
00:31:18.500 I'll give you a quick synopsis of that, the main conflict, and that has to do with the
00:31:25.880 concept of nationalism.
00:31:28.880 Nationalism is a loyalty to a nation state and it only emerged in about the 16th or 17th
00:31:33.620 century.
00:31:35.240 Loyalty in the Western Christian world was to the Pope, to the church, and it led to civil
00:31:41.540 strife and the reform movement in Europe and about 100 years of civil war between
00:31:47.500 Catholics and Protestants.
00:31:49.840 And they resolved this conflict by introducing the concept of nationalism.
00:31:55.220 Nationalism was a new idea.
00:31:56.740 Instead of being loyal to the church, you're loyal to the nation state.
00:32:00.160 You're French because you speak French.
00:32:02.060 You're Italian.
00:32:02.900 You're German.
00:32:03.860 Your loyalty is now to your regional area and your language.
00:32:06.920 You're English.
00:32:07.560 So that was a Christian solution to Christian problems and it was very successful.
00:32:14.780 It launched the Western world and the Christian world into the era of modernity and they spread
00:32:20.360 this concept of nationalism throughout the entire world.
00:32:24.560 And Europe became very, very successful because of nationalism.
00:32:28.380 The Islamic world had the opposite experience.
00:32:31.120 And Islam, Islam was most successful in its first thousand years because of the dominance
00:32:37.580 of religion and society.
00:32:38.900 They conquered half of the civilized world and all over, you know, India and Africa, parts
00:32:47.000 of Europe, the Middle East, you know, parts of Asia became Islamic by the dominance of
00:32:53.160 religion.
00:32:53.520 It was only with the retreat of religious dominance, with the insertion of nationalism and Western
00:33:02.100 governmental systems into the Islamic world starting in the early 1900s that Islam went
00:33:08.740 into decline.
00:33:10.320 Islamic society has been in decline really for almost 300 years.
00:33:13.780 So the movement of Islamism like Hamas, the Iranian revolutionary movement, so many Islamist
00:33:20.480 groups, Al-Qaeda, you name it, Muslim Brotherhood, they seek to return Islam to its traditional
00:33:26.820 values and its traditional government where Islam is the political force and dominates
00:33:33.220 politically as a way to heal themselves, as a way to restore the dominance of Islam and
00:33:40.700 restore justice in their societies.
00:33:43.460 They reject rich elites and poor masses like the Gulf Arabs, the Saudis, the UAE.
00:33:49.460 They hate those guys because they don't believe in rich elites and poor masses.
00:33:54.340 So this is the real conflict going on between East and West, is the Western world and Israelis
00:34:00.880 don't understand that the Islamic world is going through what I call the revolt of Islam.
00:34:06.140 It's a return to tradition to restore their society.
00:34:10.780 So when Israel gave back Gaza to the PLO terrorist group in 2005, I made a film called Farewell Israel, Bush, Iran, and the Revolts of Islam, and I explained
00:34:22.200 that the Israelis have a fundamental misunderstanding.
00:34:25.420 They believe that peace is going to break out if you give territory to these terrorist groups.
00:34:29.880 And it was a fatally flawed idea.
00:34:32.720 I knew from the get-go they would have to go back in and destroy them and fight because they would not live side by side in peace.
00:34:41.800 So I made a couple films, another one called Atomic Jihad, about the Iranian nuclear program.
00:34:46.780 I've written many articles trying to explain to the Western world the Islamic point of view and how they think and how they view peace agreements and exchanges of territory.
00:34:58.900 And the lack of understanding is what's caused all this war.
00:35:03.800 This is kind of what I was getting at because I happen to think, and my mother obviously agrees with me.
00:35:09.860 In fact, I agree with my mother.
00:35:11.060 It's more her theory than mine.
00:35:12.040 But the Muslim Brotherhood heavily influenced the Obama administration.
00:35:17.560 Valerie Jarrett heavily influenced Obama.
00:35:21.280 And we've seen a decline in our relationship with Israel really start, in our opinion, really started when Obama got in.
00:35:31.200 And, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood visited the Obama White House.
00:35:34.580 It's on record, I think, more times than any other group by a lot.
00:35:38.500 And you can see there's this sort of controlling group above Obama and a lot of the Democrat Party the last 15, 20 years, Ilhan Omar, AOC.
00:35:50.680 There's this sort of anti-Israel, Israel are colonists, Islam is a religion of peace, this whole sort of movement that's been happening since Obama won.
00:35:59.460 We see that as a narrative controlling, puppeteering force that is anti-West, anti-democracy, and anti-American values.
00:36:09.360 I know for a fact we are not wrong.
00:36:11.320 We are right on this one.
00:36:12.340 Because like you said it, this war, East versus West, really is this sort of Eastern philosophy of serfdom and no separation of church and state, right?
00:36:22.000 Islam is the force.
00:36:23.780 There is no nationalism.
00:36:25.140 And America is purely Western, purely democracy, purely nationalism.
00:36:30.760 And we are proud to be Americans.
00:36:33.660 And there's no greater threat to Islam than America and Israel being strong.
00:36:40.980 So when you start looking at the bigger scheme, like we talk about COVID and Trayvon Martin and all these forces and, of course, the people on our side that are completely brainwashed, like the Jews run everything.
00:36:50.240 How do you not notice that with Islam approaching, and you see what happens in Europe, I'm not making this up, this is all documented, you can see it, you can turn on your news today, you'll see it, that there's obviously this narrative pushing, that it's very important to that narrative and those puppet masters, that Israel and America decline, and that their relationship is severed.
00:37:11.300 That is the most important thing to them.
00:37:13.400 And it's obvious to me.
00:37:15.500 So my question to you is, am I on to something?
00:37:17.740 Is that what's happening?
00:37:18.580 Yeah, you're partially on to something.
00:37:21.900 Let me explain why.
00:37:23.260 It wasn't that the Muslim Brotherhood appeared at the White House.
00:37:26.500 It's that Obama embraced the Muslim Brotherhood and invited them to the White House.
00:37:31.320 He also went to Cairo and gave the speech encouraging Islamism as soon as he got elected.
00:37:37.960 And I want to explain to you the reason for that.
00:37:41.080 Socialists and communists like Barack Obama and hardcore Marxists have a lot in common with radical Islamists.
00:37:48.580 Because both groups feel that Western democracy and Western free market systems are an obstacle to taking power.
00:37:56.780 And they're an obstacle to their success.
00:37:58.580 So historically, Marxists and socialists have allied with Islamists, going back to the Soviet Union, allying with radical Islamists, because they want to fight the capitalist free market system.
00:38:11.920 Now, both sides, the Islamists and the communists, believe that ultimately the other side is going to self-destruct once they get rid of the capitalists.
00:38:20.200 But in the meantime, they're willing to fight together to try to harm Western interests, free markets and free speech and everything else.
00:38:29.040 So you have to just always understand, go back to the idea that nationalism never succeeded in the Islamic world.
00:38:36.520 Because in the Islamic world, loyalty can only be to God and to Islam.
00:38:41.120 It cannot be to a nation state.
00:38:43.900 Nationalism was a Christian solution to Christian problems in Europe.
00:38:48.340 It was a way to resolve their problems with the fight between Catholics and Protestants.
00:38:54.240 It does not fit.
00:38:55.400 It never fit in the Islamic world.
00:38:56.940 That's why in the Islamic world you have rich elites and poor masses or military government.
00:39:01.800 Every time there's a free election in the Islamic world, like the Israelis stupidly gave Gaza to the PLO and said, let's have free elections.
00:39:10.300 And, of course, Hamas won, because they'll always elect Islamists into government.
00:39:17.840 The PLO, by the way, was defunct in the 1980s.
00:39:21.880 Arab nationalism died after the Iranian Revolution in 1979.
00:39:26.420 So 20 years later, in 2005, Israel made an agreement with a defunct terrorist group that was hated by the masses.
00:39:34.220 The PLO gave them all this territory with this ridiculous fantasy that peace is going to break out.
00:39:40.380 Instead, the Hamas took over immediately and turned Gaza into a terror base.
00:39:45.880 And the Israelis tried to kind of manage it for years, but it was always going to lead to an all-out war.
00:39:52.240 So the fundamental lack of understanding and the Western world pushing these ideas of de-escalation, let's de-escalate.
00:40:01.440 In the Middle East, the way it works is only massive retaliation and threat of massive retaliation is what keeps the peace, not de-escalation.
00:40:10.040 So we continue to have this clash of Western politicians and media trying to impose their values of peace and government into the Islamic world where it never fits properly.
00:40:23.040 And that's why we have wars.
00:40:25.060 100%.
00:40:25.580 And there, you know, the Islamicists believe purely that our way of life is evil.
00:40:34.720 I mean, I know I'm talking generalities, but it is true because we don't, you know, submit to God.
00:40:41.580 We are, you know, we're whores.
00:40:43.780 We're an OnlyFans.
00:40:44.680 We do drugs.
00:40:45.340 We drink.
00:40:46.180 We eat bacon.
00:40:47.240 And you know what?
00:40:47.720 To be honest, in a lot of ways, they're not wrong.
00:40:50.780 The Western way of life is, in a lot of ways, antithetical to a relationship with God.
00:40:56.620 And I know that's an unpopular opinion.
00:40:58.200 But, you know, the push for, in capitalism, the push for success, for money, those things, you know, Jesus himself said, you know, the eye of the needle.
00:41:08.040 I don't need to quote the Bible, but we all know what I'm talking about.
00:41:11.240 The push for success in the Western countries, the capitalist agenda, in a lot of ways, is antithetical to God.
00:41:19.820 And again, super unpopular opinion.
00:41:21.740 I'm going to get flamed in the comments.
00:41:23.540 But it's true.
00:41:24.240 And Islam, in a lot of ways, is subduing yourself to Allah and to God, saying this is the only thing you have to care about.
00:41:32.740 In a lot of ways, they are right when they make the case that they are closer to God in the way that they understand it.
00:41:39.600 And I think that's another thing.
00:41:40.740 When you say the West doesn't understand Islam, well, Islam doesn't understand the West because we are not driven by Satan at our heart or anti-God.
00:41:50.560 We actually very much believe in God.
00:41:52.200 This is a Christian nation here.
00:41:53.620 Israel is a Jewish nation.
00:41:55.880 We are all sons of Abraham.
00:41:57.600 They don't understand that we can believe in God and have a relationship with God and still want liberty and peace and to coalesce and assimilate in our culture with other people.
00:42:10.600 And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
00:42:12.300 And that's something they don't understand.
00:42:13.660 And they also think that we're easily manipulated and weak because liberals are, and a lot of Jewish liberals in America are, and a lot of people that are West are suicidal empathy, like Gad Saad calls it.
00:42:27.600 Or Ison, I can never remember her name, but they think we're kind of this useful idiot that they can manipulate and embed themselves.
00:42:35.240 In a lot of ways, that's true as well.
00:42:38.320 But the true Western man and woman, the true American is a gun-toting, Bible-clutching fucking outlaw.
00:42:48.720 And we are not going to be subdued.
00:42:50.700 And we're not going to have someone come here and tell us how we have to have a relationship with God.
00:42:55.420 We've gone to war over this.
00:42:56.780 We had a revolution over this.
00:42:58.520 It wasn't just taxes.
00:43:00.180 Separation of church and state is fundamental to America for a reason, which is also antithetical to Islam.
00:43:06.480 And basically what you're seeing is you're seeing the West and East.
00:43:09.740 This is a battle that goes for thousands of years, culminating now to where the West, America today, is now starting to give ground to the East and say, you know what?
00:43:21.200 Maybe whites are bad.
00:43:22.980 Maybe Israel's bad.
00:43:24.820 Maybe Hamas is freedom fighters.
00:43:26.540 Maybe they're a liberation army.
00:43:28.700 And now ground is going and we are headed down a very, very scary path.
00:43:34.300 And the people in charge of this narrative, shocker, another unpopular opinion, are not Jews.
00:43:41.180 They're communists.
00:43:42.820 They're Islamicists.
00:43:43.880 They're Satanists.
00:43:44.700 Some of them are Jewish.
00:43:46.040 But this is not a Jewish or Christian group behind it.
00:43:49.000 This is a communist slash Chris Long slash evil left-wing Jew Islamic culmination globalist to destroy Western ideals.
00:43:58.720 Thank you.
00:43:59.100 Yeah, well, one of the more entertaining aspects of this is when you see the gays for Gaza or whatever they call themselves, somehow they don't realize that if they were to show up in Gaza, they'd be thrown off a roof.
00:44:14.700 I think they do realize it, but I think they hate white Trump supporters and Jews more.
00:44:21.540 I think this is, I'll say this and then I'll back off and let you talk.
00:44:27.260 Their hatred of white colonizers, because they are communist, is where they classify MAGA and where they classify Israel in their mind because they're stupid.
00:44:38.580 So the white colonizers they're fighting, they would rather align themselves with people that would throw them off a building because they hate Jews and they hate MAGA Christians that much.
00:44:47.400 Well, like the Israeli left has actually gone through a little bit of a, actually a big, they finally learned a big lesson because most of the people that were murdered by Hamas in the cross-border attack on October 7th were these kibbutzim that were far left Israelis living right there near Gaza.
00:45:07.740 Some of the people that were kidnapped used to pick up Palestinian kids in Gaza and take them to Israeli hospitals for free medical care.
00:45:16.740 They were the biggest supporters of Hamas and Palestinian state, and they were the first ones that Hamas murdered and kidnapped.
00:45:24.400 So I think most Israelis have finally learned their lesson that the Palestinians, Hamas, do not want an Israel of any size is acceptable, not a side-by-side state living in peace and security and all that nonsense.
00:45:41.080 So there have been some lessons learned, but there's still a long way to go.
00:45:45.540 Absolutely. And I think that the overall lesson that needs to be learned is that, and this I'm speaking to the woke right people that still listen to this podcast,
00:45:55.720 that if you allow your hatred of Jewish people just because you don't like them, whatever your reason is, fine.
00:46:03.940 You can be critical of Israel, fine, but your hatred of a group to allow yourself to be manipulated and twisted for a pro-Islam, pro-communist, anti-American nationalism agenda that you're now,
00:46:17.800 you're basically letting a Trojan horse in to destroy you from within, that if you can't see that that's happening,
00:46:23.920 that you would rather just go on Twitter and circle jerk about your hatred of Jews, that's more important to you than saving your country.
00:46:32.000 That's really, really terrifying to me. And the scariest thing of all, I can let everything else go, the election fraud, Trayvon hoax, the media, all this shit.
00:46:41.860 Before that, those were things we stood and fought on. But this one, this is about our destruction as a people, and no one seems to care.
00:46:50.600 Let me make a comment about the big picture of this woke right people don't understand.
00:46:57.680 The United States cannot exist as a lone democracy in the world between two oceans.
00:47:03.880 We cannot be a democracy. We cannot survive. We need strong democratic allies throughout the world.
00:47:10.200 In Western Europe, Australia, in the Middle East, Israel, South America, we have to have a network of strong democracies worldwide to survive.
00:47:19.680 America cannot survive sitting here with a totalitarian world between two oceans. They'll get us.
00:47:26.140 So that's why America has to support a strong Australia, a strong Israel in the Middle East, strong democratic allies in Europe.
00:47:34.680 This is what makes America great and survive.
00:47:37.980 And the big woke right has lost sight of that when they want to pile on to undermine America's democratic allies.
00:47:46.820 We need strong Israel. We need a strong Australia. We need a strong Western Europe with democracies, or we won't survive.
00:47:54.140 That's the weirdest part of the libertarian mindset, because really the woke right, I think, is born from libertarianism, which I like libertarians on their face.
00:48:03.060 But this, like, foreign intervention, like, Candace, I think, is like this and Tucker, which is why I'm not as critical of them as my mother is, because I understand it.
00:48:13.120 It's like our tax dollars going there. We have homeless people on the street here.
00:48:15.760 We have veterans that aren't getting food, and we're sending billions to Israel, like, and they have free health care.
00:48:19.980 What the fuck? I understand that mindset very, very well, and I agree with it for the most part.
00:48:25.760 But when you follow, just like communism is great on paper until you follow it in real life, and pure capitalism is great on paper until you follow it in real life, like, the same thing is true with libertarianism.
00:48:37.020 When you follow that, we are essentially now isolating ourselves, saying, hey, we have strong walls.
00:48:42.440 We're America. We're all going to be great.
00:48:43.780 We're going to build the roads with our own, you know, out of our own hearts and minds and not tax the people because it's evil.
00:48:49.500 Well, then now you have 3 billion Islamists or 4 billion Islamists.
00:48:55.200 You have Russia getting stronger.
00:48:57.020 Every country that surrounds us is now in unison, and they go, hey, that America, they got some good natural resources over there, and we won't see it coming, and we're done.
00:49:06.400 The libertarian mindset of building your walls and strapping yourself in, in the end, in a global world where there's global war and nuclear weapons and the ability to cross oceans and shit, that is not a smart strategy.
00:49:22.060 Having allies placed in the Middle East and Australia, like you said, a lot of times you can view it as from a military mindset.
00:49:30.000 These are satellite bases.
00:49:31.280 Israel is a satellite base, in my opinion, to America and a region that hates us and wants us dead.
00:49:38.200 That is very important.
00:49:39.500 If anyone's ever played a single video game, a military video game, you understand the importance of having resources near the enemy.
00:49:46.980 It's just smart.
00:49:48.060 Look, Israel for years was the eastern flank of NATO, even though not a NATO member.
00:49:54.400 They kept the peace.
00:49:55.520 They were, you know, a block to Russian expansion in the Middle East.
00:50:00.520 After the demise of the Soviet Union, they've been, kept the peace, kept the Iranians in place, protected Jordan.
00:50:09.520 You know, they've done a lot to further American interests and protect American interests.
00:50:13.740 It's like a big, you know, Air Force base in the Middle East.
00:50:17.440 So there's a whole geopolitical world that a lot of people don't think about or understand, and we have a lot of commentators on our side that are looking for clicks and want to be relevant and come out and say things that they don't know enough about.
00:50:32.580 I've always admired your mom because she's always pretty in-depth.
00:50:35.660 We did some interviews in Washington, D.C. at The Hill.
00:50:38.080 You can go online and check those out on YouTube, The Hill, with One America News, Ruthless Podcast, and, you know, Roseanne brings it.
00:50:46.860 I mean, she really knows a lot about history.
00:50:48.680 She knows a lot about politics.
00:50:49.920 She gives you some very deep perspectives, even if they ask her some shallow questions.
00:50:54.020 So you'll really enjoy the film, Roseanne Barr's America, because it's 90 minutes of Roseanne getting pretty deep, and I have not talked to anybody who only watched it once.
00:51:04.880 They all say, I watched it three or four times, and every time they watch it, they learn something more.
00:51:10.340 So, you know, your mom has been, you know, just a great American, and I think this film really allows her the platform to put it all together for everybody that maybe only knew a few things about her.
00:51:21.940 Yeah, again, Roseanne Barr's America, again, I am biased, but it is objectively a great film about a great American, and you did a great job, Joel, and, you know, as we wrap up here, I'd like you to plug yourself a little bit more.
00:51:37.760 I know you've mentioned other films, but where can people go to see these films?
00:51:41.520 Yeah, well, if you go to my, I'm on Twitter a lot, Joel S. Gilbert, initial S, and right up the top, it'll give you the link to Vimeo where you can live stream all of my films.
00:51:51.460 I've made about 20 documentary feature films, starting with covering Bob Dylan.
00:51:57.380 I'm actually a musician, too.
00:51:59.020 I have a Bob Dylan tribute band, and I played Bob Dylan, and many years performed.
00:52:05.660 I even had Bob Dylan's band members in my band.
00:52:08.140 It was pretty cool.
00:52:09.480 So I made four movies about Dylan's career.
00:52:12.080 I made a comedy about Paul McCartney called Paul McCartney Really Is Dead.
00:52:16.580 It did so well, my distributor asked me to do another one about rock and roll mysteries, so I made one called Elvis Found Alive, which is very funny.
00:52:25.200 And then I made some very serious films on Middle East history, Farewell Israel, Atomic Jihad, Trump, The Art of the Insult.
00:52:32.360 It's very funny political films.
00:52:33.720 I'm pretty well known for Dreams from My Real Father, where I presented a mountain of evidence that Obama's real biological father is the man he admits raised him in Hawaii, Frank Marshall Davis, who was one of the first black Bolsheviks out of Chicago.
00:52:48.400 And he raised and radicalized Obama, and I put all that together.
00:52:54.500 One of my best stories on that film is I went to a speech.
00:52:58.340 When that film came out, I went to a speech by Ron Johnson, the senator from Wisconsin, and I was sitting at the first table, and he walked over, and I said,
00:53:07.260 Oh, Senator Johnson, I enjoyed your speech.
00:53:09.340 I'd like to introduce myself and tell you about my film.
00:53:12.100 He said, You don't have to introduce yourself.
00:53:13.940 I've seen Dreams from My Real Father ten times.
00:53:15.860 So that was pretty cool.
00:53:18.420 So I think that film made a big impact.
00:53:20.900 Well, it's a pretty telling film because, you know, there is weird history around Obama's upbringing.
00:53:26.000 We all know about the birth certificate and, you know, believe what you want.
00:53:29.940 But the, you know, there's Bill Ayers.
00:53:33.140 There's Obama does have a history of being around very, very pro-Marxist people from the time he was born.
00:53:40.720 It's undeniable at this point.
00:53:42.280 And you said earlier in this interview, you know, there is a correlation with Marxism and Islamicists.
00:53:49.820 Valerie Jarrett was his brain, his Karl Rove.
00:53:52.220 She was Iranian and, I believe, part of the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:53:55.480 So you can see that when you watch your films that this is not something that I'm making up.
00:54:01.020 This is a guy with a history of Marxist, potentially his history.
00:54:05.720 Yeah, no, Obama was, look, Obama was radicalized, he admits, by Frank Marshall Davis.
00:54:10.740 I've talked to Obama's best friend, Keith Kakagawa, and he told me that Obama hung out with Frank two, three times a week.
00:54:17.520 He wanted to emulate Frank Marshall Davis.
00:54:19.840 Obama was in the, it was called the New Party back then.
00:54:23.200 That was the precursor to the Democrat Socialists that Zoran Mandami is part of.
00:54:27.040 Obama was in the New Party in Chicago.
00:54:29.680 He was a member of the far-left radical Democrat Socialists precursor called the New Party.
00:54:34.780 And like Mandami, he chose to run in the Democrat Party to get power.
00:54:39.420 At that time, Obama did something called stealth socialism.
00:54:43.180 He didn't talk about socialism openly.
00:54:45.520 He pretended, well, no, I support Israel.
00:54:48.240 I support the Constitution.
00:54:49.520 Marriage is between man and a woman and God.
00:54:51.320 He tried to clean up his background, and then when he became president, he threw the voters under the bus and pursued this radical agenda that nobody voted for.
00:55:01.640 But the stealth socialism of the Democrat Party during Obama has now turned into open socialism of Zoran Mandami, where he just openly said, well, we're going to seize the means of production, and we're going to open grocery stores and cancel rent and tax white people.
00:55:18.380 So Obama started it with the stealth, and unfortunately, the Democrat Party has pretty much adopted this radical socialism, and today it's this radical socialist party.
00:55:29.380 But Obama is the one that created the radicalism, first by pretending not to be radical, but then pursuing the radical agenda anyway.
00:55:39.620 Trojan horse.
00:55:40.500 That's how they operate, communists and Islamists and a lot of nefarious people.
00:55:46.020 They don't come out and tell you what they're going to do that's going to destroy your country.
00:55:49.920 They're smart, and they're like, hey, I'm just like you guys, and they lie.
00:55:54.280 There's a word for it, Islam, in Islam.
00:55:58.280 Takiyah.
00:55:59.020 Takiyah.
00:55:59.560 Like, it's okay to lie and justify the means.
00:56:02.800 And justify the means.
00:56:04.000 And that's terrifying because it's like, oh, well, then am I being lied to?
00:56:08.820 Is Mondani, are these people, what they're telling me is this truly their agenda?
00:56:14.000 Do I trust them?
00:56:15.180 And you have to be sharp, and you have to be skeptical.
00:56:18.380 And again, look, we really lack education.
00:56:21.460 I've done films, and a lot of research of films.
00:56:24.160 Back in the 50s and 60s, you'd have mainstream Hollywood.
00:56:27.780 John Wayne would do these public service announcements against communism.
00:56:31.080 You'd explain what free markets are and what communism does.
00:56:35.400 And in communism, everybody's going to be poor.
00:56:37.720 You're going to starve to death.
00:56:39.160 So why don't we just go with the free markets?
00:56:41.500 It's working pretty good.
00:56:43.060 So we haven't had that kind of education for many years.
00:56:47.020 It's kind of been the opposite.
00:56:48.320 They've kind of indoctrinated our public system of education, universities,
00:56:52.160 with this whole socialist stuff.
00:56:54.220 So the average person just kind of doesn't know the history that well.
00:56:59.320 And that's why we get people voting for Mandami without really understanding
00:57:03.940 maybe what they're voting for until it's too late.
00:57:07.320 Yeah, well said.
00:57:08.300 I mean, I'm a big fan of Dennis Prager.
00:57:11.140 Back in the day, he talked about this a lot, that the biggest –
00:57:15.260 someone asked him what the biggest threat to America was in the future.
00:57:18.620 They assumed he would mention kind of the people I'm mentioning.
00:57:21.820 But he said the greatest enemy is that Americans don't know what it means to be an American anymore.
00:57:26.640 Lack of education.
00:57:27.620 Lack of education.
00:57:28.060 Well, also, they don't know that there's a true thing called American exceptionalism.
00:57:33.160 I mean, Obama said it wasn't.
00:57:34.920 But it's true.
00:57:36.260 America is exceptional.
00:57:38.360 We have exceptional history.
00:57:40.120 We're exceptional people.
00:57:41.780 And that pride's sort of been taken away.
00:57:43.720 And now it's this guilt, this white guilt, this colonizer guilt,
00:57:47.400 what they're doing to Israel too.
00:57:49.100 No, we're great.
00:57:50.900 Israel and America are great.
00:57:52.060 We do great things.
00:57:52.720 If you ask people around the world, in other countries, they'll tell you, America is great.
00:57:59.520 We survive because of America.
00:58:02.140 We want to be like America.
00:58:03.940 Only because of America we have a goal of how we can be better.
00:58:07.360 America is still admired around the world, but it becomes quite a challenge, especially during
00:58:14.320 the Biden years when the government itself is trying to undermine the country.
00:58:18.280 The people abroad who look up to us lose hope.
00:58:21.540 And they wonder what's going to happen to them if America goes down.
00:58:25.340 And what we're seeing now in the last six months is a reversal of a very sharp, frightening
00:58:31.160 decline of the Biden years.
00:58:33.340 And it's going to take a couple more years for Trump to really get us out of it as the
00:58:39.920 Democrats try to fight back with the judges and everything else to stop the recovery.
00:58:47.140 The Marxists are furious that Trump is bringing good lifestyle and success to the average worker.
00:58:56.960 They're furious about that.
00:58:58.060 They want to reverse it.
00:58:59.380 That's what the whole climate change initiative was about.
00:59:02.320 I made that film called The Climate According to A.I. Al Gore.
00:59:05.940 I was actually an intern, believe it or not.
00:59:08.280 I worked for Senator Al Gore when he was a senator from Tennessee.
00:59:11.800 He was a conservative senator at the time, and I was a student in Washington.
00:59:14.760 So I got to know him a little bit, so I made this film kind of exposing the whole hoax that
00:59:20.200 Al Gore brought to the world with his climate theories.
00:59:25.820 And there's a funny joke I heard recently where someone said, why don't they have climate
00:59:31.940 change policies in China?
00:59:33.960 And the answer is, oh, they already have communism in China.
00:59:39.600 That's what it's all about.
00:59:40.780 The climate hoax is all about attacking the free market system.
00:59:45.000 It's the same old gang with the same old socialist solutions, government control, decentralization.
00:59:51.780 Give all your money to the government.
00:59:54.160 And it's just anti-free markets.
00:59:57.540 Anti-free market.
00:59:58.180 And we cannot let these people control not just the narrative, but our minds.
01:00:03.220 Because once you give in to it, there's no going back.
01:00:05.480 You can't vote your way out of communism.
01:00:06.880 You can't vote your way out of Islam.
01:00:09.540 And if America falls, there's no way out.
01:00:14.420 There's no way out for the majority of the world.
01:00:18.340 We are that important.
01:00:20.860 And I just want to say thank you so much for coming on.
01:00:24.580 We've plugged you and your films enough.
01:00:26.660 I hope everybody goes and rushes to your website and, again, checks out Roseanne Bars America.
01:00:30.580 But for you, I have one final thing to say to you before I hang up on you.
01:00:34.340 Thank you so much for your espresso tutorial.
01:00:37.500 I have gotten pretty dang good.
01:00:40.240 Joel told me about that pre-marinated, pre-infusion.
01:00:43.400 Yes, there you go.
01:00:44.240 I also have been using the espresso beans you suggested.
01:00:48.160 They're incredible.
01:00:49.100 I have a thermometer in my milk.
01:00:51.540 It's all steam.
01:00:52.520 I would love sometime if you're in the area.
01:00:55.660 We're in L.A. now, but when we get back to Texas, to make you a cappuccino and see how it rings.
01:01:01.960 I'm sure it's not as good as yours, but I'm working on it.
01:01:05.040 You know, Joel, we went to a restaurant.
01:01:06.440 He sends back every cappuccino they make and tells them how to make it.
01:01:10.500 It's pretty funny.
01:01:11.380 All right, Joel, anything else before I hang up on you?
01:01:14.560 Very cool.
01:01:15.300 Just everyone, hit the website, roseanneisamerica.com.
01:01:19.340 Roseanneisamerica.com.
01:01:20.160 Watch the trailer.
01:01:21.000 Link up.
01:01:22.000 Read about it.
01:01:22.760 It's really the greatest movie I ever made.
01:01:25.420 And if you don't watch it, you're missing out.
01:01:28.460 Absolutely.
01:01:28.920 And this Saturday night, you are in Vegas right now in a hotel room.
01:01:32.100 You're going to screen the film with the Gateway Pundit.
01:01:34.160 My mom's going to remotely connect to the Q&A portion.
01:01:38.940 So is that going to be live for people?
01:01:41.020 Can people hear?
01:01:42.360 Because this episode will air Friday.
01:01:43.920 They'll be able to tune in, or is it a private event?
01:01:46.080 I don't know if we're live streaming the Q&A or not.
01:01:49.100 I can ask about that.
01:01:50.280 But, you know, watch the movie.
01:01:52.020 Watch it again.
01:01:53.300 And you're going to really learn a lot.
01:01:55.320 It's just so fun.
01:01:57.100 Roseanne is still hilarious.
01:01:59.060 She's got so much charisma.
01:02:00.400 There's so much you don't know.
01:02:02.040 So definitely check out the movie.
01:02:03.800 Well, thank you for doing right.
01:02:05.260 Thank you for doing right by my mother and Joel.
01:02:08.160 I appreciate it.
01:02:09.480 All right.
01:02:09.760 Thanks so much.
01:02:10.500 Oh, you see, my patience is growing thin.
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