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00:02:55.280I just want to be very clear that this episode we filmed with Scott Adams is one of my favorite.
00:03:00.220But it was filmed before the Maui fires.
00:03:02.800And the reason I'm telling you that is because there is a portion of this episode where my mother and him are discussing slow-moving disasters.
00:03:09.780And they make mention of being stuck in traffic and not being able to get out.
00:03:15.800And, you know, if this was recorded after the Maui fires, that would have been very insensitive to talk about it that way.
00:03:37.480So I just want to be clear when you're hearing them talk about being stuck in traffic and disasters that it was no way about the Maui fires.
00:03:46.240And lastly, and most importantly, I want to say that this episode, because Scott was not in person, was filmed via Zoom.
00:03:54.460And unfortunately, I don't know the state of the audio until the end of the episode when it uploads.
00:04:00.320We don't have great internet here where we live.
00:04:03.220And unfortunately, my mother's audio, specifically in the first few minutes, is popping and probably very irritating to listen to.
00:04:11.240More irritating than her natural voice.
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00:04:58.300We want as many people to see this episode as possible.
00:05:01.620And I'm not sure that the episodes are showing up in the algorithm of YouTube in the most efficient way on their end.
00:05:37.240So I'm very excited to have, as a guest today, the author of Dilbert and a new book, too, that he'll hold up and we'll talk about, Scott Adams.
00:07:02.840I mean, in person, not a single person believes anything like that.
00:07:07.340But the average viewer of the news doesn't understand that public figures are generally used as sort of a conduit for other people's opinions.
00:07:17.000So if they can find any way to define you as the hub of the place they can load their opinion on and put it through you,
00:07:25.860it's really just a vehicle for other people to express their opinions.
00:07:28.820So what you actually said or what you actually meant and what I actually said and what I actually meant never really came up.
00:07:36.980It was like that wasn't an important part of the process.
00:07:45.980Now, the thing that the average viewer of news doesn't realize, and you, of course, would know it better than anybody,
00:07:52.540the news about public figures is almost never real, almost never, probably nine out of 10 times they're leaving out the important part of the story.
00:08:03.360You know, they might get a fact right, like if somebody died, usually right.
00:08:08.920But if it's somebody said something or was alleged to say something, in my experience, those are almost never true.
00:08:15.160I'm really puzzled about whether things have gotten worse or we got smarter about how bad they were.
00:08:22.960There's definitely more canceling going on.
00:08:48.000But they can make a major story just disappear.
00:08:51.080Well, I know you're concerned about the indictment of Trump.
00:08:56.180And I like that you said, don't say weaponization of the Department of Justice, say destruction.
00:09:05.260Yeah, you know, I don't think people fully realize that everything about America that works is based on the foundation of the justice system and the fact that ours is better than most.
00:09:18.280You know, the reason you come to America, among other reasons, is that the justice system, you know, gives you a chance of, you know, not being jailed for the wrong reasons and running your company and not running into too much trouble with other criminals.
00:09:32.080But if we lose that, that's somewhat irreparable.
00:09:37.380I mean, everything else would collapse.
00:09:39.360And I think we're taking some pretty big shots at it with, you know, what's going on lately with Trump specifically.
00:09:47.900I mean, to me, I don't know anybody who's following the story who thinks that's legitimate.
00:09:52.780I know a lot of people who are not aware that, for example, questioning the electors has been a historical thing.
00:10:02.540People don't seem to understand that Republicans don't hold insurrections without weapons.
00:10:07.200Like that somehow we were sold the idea that Republicans would launch a coup and they wouldn't bring weapons and that the way they would conquer the United States is by sauntering around the Capitol for a few hours until the government surrendered.
00:10:25.600And it's so horrifying to think that it was that easy to overthrow the government of the United States with all those police and everything around letting them do it, knowing that they were there to overthrow the government.
00:10:59.260He said that the Jack Smith indictment included language from Trump's speech, and they did not include in the indictment where he said the peaceful and patriotic part.
00:11:20.220I wanted Scott to talk more because I watched that video, Scott, your podcast about this, about how Jack Smith is basically committing the crime that he's accusing Trump of.
00:11:28.920I wanted you to explain that a little bit more.
00:11:31.140So this is Dershowitz's point, Ellen Dershowitz.
00:11:35.920He was saying that if the crime that Trump is committing was not telling the truth and that therefore that had repercussions in the real world, that Jack Smith is also not telling the truth by leaving out the key part.
00:11:49.920You know, it's a lie by omission in the indictment.
00:11:53.100They're both, you know, they both have something important to do with our government and with the country.
00:11:58.740And it's hard to see, you know, I don't know about the technical legal details that, you know, Dershowitz can talk about that.
00:12:26.240Well, one of them is the worst thing in the world, and the other one is just somebody talking.
00:12:31.640The fact that we've found that the one talking is the one going to jail, and the one doing the worst thing in the world is the one putting him in jail.
00:12:41.320Well, already, they've already been caught with making up fake FISA's, fake dossiers.
00:12:47.440They've already been caught, and everybody knows that's the truth.
00:12:50.900And yet, they're never indicted, and people see that there is a dual-tiered, a two-tiered system of justice, one for the establishment, and one for everybody who's not in the establishment and trying to make change or expose it.
00:13:14.340Yeah, you know, the most amazing thing that boggles my mind is that we've now learned enough about, let's say, the laptop and the 50 Intel people who lied about that.
00:13:25.980We know about the Russia collusion hoax.
00:15:14.460They're laying around his garage and he took him to Chinatown, where China owned the building he was renting, handed him out in the street.
00:15:21.220You know, I don't know the technical details of what, you know, what's the difference between those two cases.
00:15:49.620Because if, in fact, it were nuclear secrets or something like that, you don't think that they would tell us, at least in broad strokes, hey, there were nuclear secrets?
00:16:00.380You know, they don't have to tell us the secret.
00:16:01.960I would imagine he probably had some things that would sort of defend him in the future or, you know, maybe make his situation look better.
00:16:10.780I would imagine most of it's just for a biography.
00:16:14.200You know, I assume they could have been for that, too.
00:16:16.400But I think he has the Epstein list and every tentacle that it reached out to from the 28 bank half of HSBC Bank, which they covered up for all these years.
00:17:01.860We can put infrastructure where they live instead of bringing in fentanyl from the border to destroy that community.
00:17:09.540And I think that it is a genocide on black America going on and nobody's talking about it because the only people that are allowed to talk are people that are in on the yank.
00:17:24.100Yeah, I would agree with you that the the biggest source of systemic racism is the school system because it's inadequacies are, you know, multiplied in the black community.
00:17:38.220So it's it's sort of a forever problem.
00:18:16.660Every bit of it, every stinking tear of it.
00:18:20.460Well, I cannot believe that these people are out there applauding a compromise and corrupt justice system that sits there and invents and, you know, perverts law to get an innocent person in jail.
00:18:35.980When that's what's happened to a whole bunch of black men in this country.
00:20:28.220The reframe that I was trying to promote is that we're at a point in history where the affirmative action and, you know, real aggressive race-based policies probably did help a lot in the past.
00:20:43.600Probably that's the reason that we have diversity in businesses.
00:20:47.720Probably it was one of the best things that America's ever done to make sure that everything was inclusive.
00:20:53.080But it is logical and obvious that at some point you have to stop doing that because it's hurting more than it's helping.
00:21:02.300And it's going to take basically people like me who don't mind getting canceled to start calling out when the crossover happens.
00:21:13.320So in my mind, the CEI, the ESG, the DEI, the CRT, they all have in common that they demonize white people for the benefit of a class that would benefit if they can change things.
00:21:33.680So you don't want to live around that situation.
00:21:38.100In other words, you want to reduce that as much as possible.
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00:23:28.200And, you know, I came from a low-income situation.
00:23:31.920I'm guessing you probably did too as well, low-income situation.
00:23:35.300And if you simply do the things that people have always done to succeed, you've got a really, really good chance in America.
00:23:44.300And if the averages of two groups that somebody decided have to be measured are different, I'm not sure that that's the problem anymore.
00:23:55.060Because show me a black kid who went to school, stayed off drugs, studied, and developed a skill or set of skills that the marketplace valued and didn't do well.
00:24:20.580Well, you never know about that once you bring in drugs, you know, and alcohol.
00:24:24.200There's a lot, probably a lot of them.
00:24:26.900But, you know, everyone should have the right to have a public school that's a place that actually teaches them how to get along in this world that we actually live in so they can be employed and have a gainful future, which they refuse to do.
00:24:46.960They don't think that that is important at all.
00:25:01.600And it's because they have a set of rules that everybody has always used for success.
00:25:06.500And they just use the rules and now they're doing well.
00:25:09.200Well, so do rappers that live within million-dollar mansions.
00:25:15.100They don't talk about it unless they, when they're launching their fourth clothing line, then they begin to talk about discipline and all that other stuff.
00:25:24.060Yeah, but if you're talking about like Jay-Z or even Yeh, I mean, he's controversial, of course.
00:25:30.320But if you look at his work ethic, amazing.
00:36:38.400I don't want to be listening to the news and the news says, you know, people in your zip code, you really ought to get in your car and drive as fast as you can this way.
00:37:16.200I like to say irrational because then that doesn't, I don't like to hold myself outside that category because being human, I must have as many irrational, you know, opinions that are actually nonsense, but they seem totally reasonable to me.
00:37:58.120Something that pisses you off about another person, it pisses you off because you're seeing yourself and that's God telling you, hey, that's what you hate about yourself, but you don't know it.
00:39:11.060They have more rational capabilities, definitely, because, you know, after 25, your brain is sort of locked in and starts to work the way it's supposed to.
00:39:20.240So there's definitely that, and there's definitely more knowledge and more context.
00:39:23.420I can tell you that I feel like a god at my age.
00:39:28.840I'll bet you have the same feeling, because something will come up in the news, and I already know the context, because I live there.
00:39:36.300For example, there are people who are worried that the world is going to hell, and maybe they're right, but my context is I was born into that world.
00:39:45.840I was born into we're going to be nuked by Soviet Union any moment.
00:40:19.840Now, I have something I call the Adam's Law of slow-moving disasters, which says that throughout history, if you could see a disaster coming from a long way away, such as we're going to run out of food because there's too many people.
00:41:44.720And I just read online the other day that Americans of our age group are afraid they can never retire.
00:41:53.880I'll tell you, I don't understand how people our age will retire unless they had pretty big careers.
00:42:02.840Like, I do the math, and I think, I don't know how this works.
00:42:08.680But I also think that you get, I think what you're going to see is you're going to see a lot of people who have a house get a bunch of roommates.
00:42:16.520And they may be less lonely than they were before.
00:42:21.620So we have infinite capacity to figure out how to re-engineer and solve stuff.
00:42:28.760That's why I think we're going to awaken to our need for each other and bring more love and compassion into it and forget our cruelty and our need to be right.
00:42:40.380And I think it's going to be a great correction for us.
00:42:43.360I think COVID was, you know, the quarantine was the beginning of that.
00:42:46.700We had to stay with our horrible families and work out a lot of our problems.
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00:46:29.640But as soon as you've got a counter force, like you really, really like the taste of that food, and you really, really like that cigarette, hypnosis works as well as, but not better than, almost any other technique.
00:46:43.060I think there are a few that might be some meds now that make a difference.
00:48:19.240Now, when I said that, I thought it was just an interesting reframe that was working for me because I don't drink anymore.
00:48:26.760And a whole bunch of people told me they stopped drinking forever with that one sentence.
00:48:34.800Because instead of looking at it as a beverage, if you think of it, if you think your alcohol is a beverage, you're going to drink it because, hey, it's dinner.
00:52:21.360I wanted to talk to you about persuasion.
00:52:23.440Persuasion is the umbrella under which everything from marketing to sales, propaganda, hypnosis, they all fall under there and they all have common elements.
00:52:35.240So that's my larger field is persuasion.
00:52:39.940And hypnosis would just be one thing I learned.
00:52:42.600But, you know, all forms of communication have an element of persuasion in them if you're doing it right.
00:52:49.360So I've simply learned those little techniques and incorporated them in my normal presentation.
00:52:56.080For example, I'll give you an example.
00:52:57.260Now, Vivek Ramaswamy was on an interview recently talking about climate change.
00:53:03.180He had a different view than the host.
00:53:06.180But what he did before he went into his different parts is he said that he agreed that the climate is warming.
00:53:13.020Now, I'm not getting into a discussion about climate.
00:53:15.580I'm just giving you an example of persuasion.
00:53:17.720He said, I agree the planet is warming and the humans caused it.
00:53:21.080So by agreeing with her first, he's got you on his side.
00:59:26.380I think from the 60s, again, going back to my youth, you know, we saw the kids seem to be tuning out and dropping out.
00:59:35.000And it looked like the youth that lost all their interest in hard work and all those things that kept the country together.
00:59:41.680And then the country just kept getting stronger.
00:59:43.740And every generation, you know, every 10 years, we're like, oh, this generation, this, you know, generation X, Y, whatever, they're all bad.
00:59:52.940And then it never really happens because every generation produces their 10 percent who do all the important stuff.
01:01:29.760You know, the thing about the future is that it's fundamentally unpredictable.
01:01:35.460And there are so many things that are boiling around right now that could change just completely what it looks like five years from now.
01:01:45.860I mean, if you add AI to the fact that they may have this superconductivity working, I'm not totally convinced.
01:01:52.640So, you know, by the time people see this, maybe it's debunked.
01:01:56.220But if that works, superconductivity plus AI plus quantum computers plus fusion energy forever, these are all the things that would be enabled by these technologies.
01:02:40.480That is at least as powerful as the bad stuff.
01:02:42.540I think it's more powerful than the bad stuff.
01:02:46.320And that's why I say, I think because of all the good that's incoming because of the, I mean, of course, we could use technology to ruin everything, which we are good at.
01:02:57.460But I think we might get a chance to better ourselves and improve our situation and therefore think more clearly.
01:03:09.000You know, one of the things that I've noticed because I have a background in economics, so my education is economics and then I got an MBA.
01:03:20.360And what they teach you is how to compare things properly so that you're not comparing to some magical thought in your mind of how things should be compared to the actual options.
01:03:30.920And what I've observed is that when I meet people who have the same background as me, we usually agree right away.
01:03:38.600Or if we don't, there's an assumption that we can see, oh, you believe that'll happen, but I have a different assumption.
01:03:45.340So, you end up agreeing or getting really close to it if you've learned how to make decisions.
01:03:49.740And that's a field that teaches you specifically, do this or do this, how do you analyze these?
01:03:56.840So, when I talk to what I'll call normies, you know, regular people who might have even a college degree, could be in math, could be in a variety of things.
01:04:07.060But if it's not in a decision-making field, you believe you can do it, but you can't.
01:04:15.160And I had that experience when I became a cartoonist because I'm not very good at drawing.
01:04:20.300People told me early in my career, you know, there's nothing you're doing that I couldn't do.
01:04:32.340So, people sometimes look at things and think as simple, such as decision-making, and they think this is something that any ordinary person could do.
01:04:51.520My native intelligence, which I like to think is pretty good, I don't think would help me without the actual training and the discipline to always make sure I'm looking at the base case,
01:05:01.580always looking at the do-nothing, I know what a sunk cost is, you know, that sort of thing.
01:05:08.580So, for example, when we look at the economic models or the prediction models of climate change, as a trained person in the field of decision-making, it looks like an absurdity to me.
01:05:22.200Because, first of all, there are too many variables.
01:05:24.100Second of all, there are hundreds of models.
01:05:29.060And then, as new information comes in, they throw away some of the models that didn't work and tell you that these models were predictive.
01:14:59.580And then they'll have a cyborg girlfriend that looks like Pamela Anderson, the Stanford wife they've already dreamed of, always dreamed of.
01:28:03.360If we're a simulation, I speculate that we can author it from within the simulation.
01:28:11.600In other words, that the visualization of your future might be the mechanism by which you're actually steering yourself through infinite possibilities.