The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - Bill Maher's Irrationality on Megyn Kelly's Show (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad

00:00:00.000 sorry i'm not sure if i'm speaking too low i'm uh i'm at a conference academic conference

00:00:07.500 part of my uh sabbatical leave and so i came down to miami to attend the conference hang out

00:00:15.560 listen to some ideas but uh i decided that i needed to do the first ever road x spaces

00:00:26.420 usually all of the previous x spaces i've done them from the safety and warmth of my study

00:00:33.820 but this is the first time that i'm doing this on the road uh just because i i listened to this chat

00:00:42.240 between uh bill maher and uh megan kelly i've gotten to know megan kelly while i've been on

00:00:51.700 her show several times uh she's come on my show once she's even more delightful once you get to

00:00:59.400 know her you know she's got it all she's incredibly smart tenacious a honey badger beautiful elegant

00:01:06.880 she's got it all uh bill maher i've never had the uh pleasure of meeting him uh a few years ago his

00:01:15.420 people had reached out to my publisher when the parasitic mind had come out and uh i think on

00:01:21.900 either one but i think two occasions they had tried to get me on the show which of course i was more

00:01:27.920 than happy to to oblige but at the time uh there was uh we had covet uh travel restrictions in canada

00:01:36.120 so even though you know at one point the bill maher show was being done i think remotely but then when

00:01:40.440 they opened up and returned to in-person show in canada yet we hadn't had the uh the opening up

00:01:47.160 the travel opening up because justin trudeau is my overlord and so he decides whether i'm allowed

00:01:53.920 to move or not and if i can take out my dog for a walk because covid can really spread in the middle

00:02:01.860 of winter when you're walking alone in minus 20 degree weather that's why you have to have a curfew

00:02:07.500 uh but in any case uh that's a topic for a different time i'm sure many doctoral dissertations

00:02:13.140 will be written about the some of the stuff that took place during the covid era but uh so i never

00:02:18.060 got a chance to go on a show and uh of course i would love to go on a show if only because it allows

00:02:24.620 me to uh you know open up my ideas to some people who otherwise uh would not hear my stuff right

00:02:32.860 i don't need to go on many of the shows that uh where people are already uh converted so to speak

00:02:40.980 uh so the bill maher platform is uniquely important because a lot of the progressives and liberals and

00:02:48.280 so on uh the democrats tend to go there and so they really need to hear some of the stuff i have to say

00:02:53.940 so let's hope that uh i will still be in uh in play to go on a show if not well there it is

00:03:01.040 uh so i mean the the point of what i wanted to do today is actually talk specifically about his uh

00:03:11.120 his performance on megan kelly's show but more generally link it to something that

00:03:17.520 uh i've talked about on many many occasions including in the parasitic mind uh the inability

00:03:25.280 of people to change their opinions irrespective of the amount of information that you give them

00:03:32.460 now this this is something that was particularly important in chapter seven of the parasitic mind

00:03:37.680 because for those of you who read my book there i was talking about you know what is what is an

00:03:42.900 epistemological tool that we can use in order to arrive at some truth and so there i talk about

00:03:50.800 uh you know the building of nomological you know networks of cumulative evidence as a

00:03:57.500 astoundingly powerful mechanism to prove your point right and so many of you have already heard me

00:04:04.420 talk about this but if i want to prove to you that you know there is a sex specificity of toy

00:04:09.260 preferences boys prefer certain toys and girls prefer other toys and and those sex specific preferences

00:04:15.480 are not due to social construction they are due to universal biological and evolutionary reasons how

00:04:21.760 would i go about doing that well i could get you data from across cultures across time periods across

00:04:27.040 species across methodologies across theoretical frameworks across disciplines across dependent measures

00:04:33.620 all of which triangulate and demonstrating that the the position that i'm holding is the vertical one

00:04:39.880 uh but in that chapter i also talk about the fact that unfortunately uh people have not evolved

00:04:48.640 critical thinking abilities to arrive at some truth but rather uh as two french psychologists have

00:04:58.320 argued in a brilliant book the enigma of reason uh people have evolved the faculty of reason in order to win

00:05:07.580 arguments and therefore the la la la la la i don't want to hear it and you push your fingers in your ears

00:05:13.400 is regrettably an indelible part of the architecture of uh the human mind now that is something by the way

00:05:24.340 that i have long studied and i'll in the sense i'm giving you here sort of the theoretical and academic

00:05:30.000 background the psychological background to what i'll be talking about with bill maher

00:05:33.600 but this is something that i've been studying from for well over 30 years so many of you know that

00:05:40.720 i mean my doctoral dissertation was in the area of psychology of decision making specifically in my

00:05:47.360 dissertation i looked at how much information do people need to acquire when choosing between

00:05:52.160 alternatives before they decide to stop and commit to a choice right now i'm choosing between two

00:05:58.620 political candidates to to vote for between two employees to hire between two women that i might

00:06:05.380 end up you know marrying between cars between anything right so there's a sequential process

00:06:11.600 whereby i acquire information iteratively and at some point as i explained in my doctoral dissertation i

00:06:18.400 hit a stopping threshold that says okay well i've seen enough information to commit

00:06:23.860 and choose the mazda to marry this girl to vote for this candidate and so i looked at the cognitive

00:06:31.440 strategies that people use when stopping the additional acquisition of information and so

00:06:37.440 i've been steeped in the study of how the human mind processes information and arise in a decision for much

00:06:45.040 of my career now i could apply it in marketing and in consumer behavior but i don't only apply it there

00:06:50.780 right even though i'm housed in a business school i could apply for made choices i have and for many

00:06:55.420 other decisions now why am i talking about all this because it turns out of course as you might

00:07:00.900 imagine that humans are not these unbiased processors of information so for example we use something

00:07:07.800 we succumb to something called the distortion bias and the confirmation bias when we make a decision so

00:07:14.300 if i make a decision and then i might experience right post-decisional angst right i experienced

00:07:22.900 cognitive dissonance at the fact that i chose the mazda and oh no i should have probably chosen the other

00:07:28.020 car well then there are ways by which i will restructure the information to assuage my cognitive

00:07:34.800 dissonance so distortion bias would be i will re-evaluate the information in a way that supports

00:07:41.840 the choice that i made or confirmation bias would be i only look at post-decisional information that

00:07:48.940 confirms the decision that i made and there are many many such examples in the decision making

00:07:55.180 literature of the anchoring and adjustment uh heuristic that conden and diversity talked about

00:08:00.560 right once you anchor yourself in a position you don't adjust sufficiently away from that anchor

00:08:05.920 even if the anchor is a completely random anchor uh for example there's the primacy and recency effect

00:08:12.940 in in uh cognitive psychology so primacy and recency refers to whether the information that you first

00:08:20.940 see about someone looms larger than later information you see about them recency effect would be the later

00:08:27.620 information looms larger so for example with the primacy effect i i can show you three pieces of

00:08:35.020 information positive information about someone that you might date and then three negative ones

00:08:39.920 or i could show you three negative ones and then three positive ones or i could show you positive

00:08:44.380 negative positive negative positive negative well it turns out that the order in which this information

00:08:49.720 is provided has a large bearing on the final evaluation which again from a strictly objective perspective

00:08:58.260 it shouldn't because i'm still seeing the same amount of information i'm only seeing it in different

00:09:03.780 orders so in the primacy effect context let's suppose i see three pieces of positive information about the

00:09:10.400 the date that i'm going out with she's hard working she's beautiful and she's kind so now what happens

00:09:17.220 there is a there's a positive glow i'm anchored in her positive glow as negative information then comes in

00:09:25.220 about her she is dogmatic she is a progressive and she puts uh gender you know her pronouns in her uh

00:09:34.980 signature well then i won't adjust sufficiently when i receive that negative information because i was

00:09:43.760 anchored in her positive glow i received the positive information first so as you the reason i'm talking

00:09:49.720 about all this is because all of this stuff that i'm talking about has been greatly studied and in

00:09:57.000 academic psychology and behavioral decision theory and so on and it's very much within the training that

00:10:03.560 i got in certainly in my phd and then the work that i did post my phd so now how do we link that to

00:10:09.980 to bill mark well i mean he exhibits an orgiastic unhinged version of many of these things that we've

00:10:17.900 studied for so many decades when we're studying how human minds make decisions before i do that i

00:10:25.780 should just mention again that i want to contextualize what i'm talking about here with something that i

00:10:31.080 mentioned on a show and actually the gentleman on whose show i appeared found out that i had been

00:10:36.140 mentioning my appearance on a show and he was very excited that i was doing so it's a british

00:10:40.360 psychiatrist who had invited me on a show a few months ago and at the end of the show he asked me a

00:10:46.160 question that i don't think anyone else had ever asked me on any of the shows that i've appeared

00:10:50.380 on and that is you know you've been a professor now for 30 years what is the singular most surprising

00:10:58.120 finding about the human condition that you know you'd like to share and so i thought for a second or two

00:11:04.060 and then i said well the inability of people to change their minds in light of you know an astounding

00:11:11.760 amount of incoming information and so you can see how that relates to today's discussion on

00:11:17.100 bill maher's appearance on megan kelly so now let's let's drill into that as i was listening to him on

00:11:23.980 on megan kelly let me just first begin by saying i thought that his uh his aura the way that he

00:11:32.180 interacted with her well this is you're just silly well that's just stupid i mean do you really believe

00:11:37.680 that right that kind of smugness and arrogance is not um it demonstrates i mean certainly something

00:11:45.240 dispositional about his personality but also demonstrates that he's probably not uh had a lot

00:11:51.120 of uh uh instances where people have uh challenged him and by the way megan kelly was very very polite

00:11:59.100 and restrained so it's not as though she was being combative but the second that you start saying

00:12:04.100 well do you really frankly believe something so stupid something so silly really you really believe

00:12:09.300 that and then you could sense that he's getting unhinged simply at the fact that she is challenging

00:12:15.220 him right she she was a a counselor who who who you know was cross-examining people in the court room

00:12:22.940 so she doesn't suffer fools gladly and yes of course he's a guest on her show she has to show the

00:12:28.920 quorum she was polite and kind but she did try to challenge him so i thought already

00:12:33.760 that kind of smugness and arrogance how could anyone not see what i'm saying here i'm you know

00:12:41.180 i'm bill maher and i'm funny and so on uh i thought that was very off-putting but now let's drill down

00:12:48.340 on some of the positions that he took which really it it's as though he exists in a parallel universe

00:12:55.860 that is completely detached from anything that i experience right so either i'm the biggest moron

00:13:03.740 who simply doesn't see things the way that you know he does or maybe he needs to revise some of his

00:13:10.340 positions so first he said that the reason why he detests donald trump so much i'm paraphrasing i don't

00:13:17.420 have these exact quotes is that donald trump would would never relinquish power if he were president as a

00:13:25.160 matter of fact he hasn't relinquished power so you're wrong to think that right now there has been

00:13:32.560 a peaceful transfer of power because he kept saying oh there's nothing more important in our democracy

00:13:40.680 than the peaceful transfer of power now of course donald trump is not sitting in the white house

00:13:47.560 joe biden yes technically he's been president now for almost four years although it's unclear whether

00:13:55.780 he knows whether he's a phone an avocado or the president of the united states but in any case

00:14:01.500 so how can he then reconcile the fact that donald trump did relinquish power right he says but he has

00:14:10.520 never uttered the words i conceded the election right so he never he said that no uh you know it was

00:14:21.400 stolen from me and at least the democrats don't do that so then uh megan kelly said but what do you mean

00:14:32.480 hillary clinton spent four years saying that he's not the real president she delegitimized him she said

00:14:39.660 he's not it's fake it's russian gate that she gave 600 different reasons why he's not really the

00:14:45.840 president he said no no no she never said that she goes well of course what words did he use so then

00:14:51.620 she plays the tape he goes oh yeah okay well but then sure she may have said those words but she

00:14:59.100 right away conceded so look how you have to alter the shifting goalposts so in her case she spent four

00:15:09.060 five years in an astoundingly unhinged way saying he literally is not the president of the united

00:15:15.700 states he's a russian uh you know uh agent right he he is illegitimate it was completely stolen it was

00:15:25.600 uh moldovian however whatever she came up with a million different reasons right but that's not

00:15:31.560 a threat to democracy because she used the words okay i concede defeat donald trump did not say i

00:15:40.900 concede defeat therefore he remains in power then he said well okay fine i mean yes technically it's

00:15:49.320 true that he conceded and that he is no longer president but if you give him a chance to be president

00:15:56.780 again now if he if he wins 2024 do you really think that in 2028 he's just gonna walk away

00:16:04.540 do you really believe that he's going so imagine that this guy who's i don't know maybe 70 years old

00:16:11.720 so he first says donald trump would does not believe in democracy he would never give up the

00:16:19.720 presidency but then the evidence is that he did give up the presidency there's been another president

00:16:24.960 there's been a peaceful transfer of power but that doesn't prove that donald trump would not

00:16:31.100 give up power because he hasn't used the word conceit now when she then megan kelly tries to give a few

00:16:39.540 examples of how much more astoundingly dangerous joe biden is to reality to science to individual freedom

00:16:48.820 all he turns back to bill maher by saying yeah but none of that is as important as the peaceful

00:16:55.700 transfer of power so imagine how detached how parasitized you must be there's been another president

00:17:04.740 in power but bill maher codes that as proof that donald trump has never relinquished power

00:17:13.480 that's what a parasitized mind does right don't believe your lying eyes language creates reality

00:17:21.880 that's called deconstructionism jack derrida and therefore yes sure sure it may appear as though

00:17:28.740 donald trump did not become a dictator donald trump did not institute martial law donald trump did not

00:17:35.520 forcefully hang on to power but he didn't use the word i concede and therefore he is a dictator

00:17:43.220 and if you give him another chance this time he truly won't leave office so notice how there is no

00:17:50.700 amount of evidence that was able to shift them away from just him being an utter unhinged lunatic

00:18:00.560 right now why am i doing this i'm i'm supposed to be right now and well i am at an academic conference

00:18:07.340 but if anything as i discussed at the start of this x spaces boy is this a beautiful case study

00:18:16.000 of many of the things that we study in consumer psychology and in in psychology of decision making

00:18:22.180 because it demonstrates how someone with such a huge platform could then completely be misguided to

00:18:28.540 millions of people and and and and frankly i mean it's really baffling so let me let me go on so

00:18:34.440 donald trump will never relinquish power trump has never conceded the 2020 election nothing is more

00:18:41.240 important than the peaceful transfer of power then he said well donald trump was i mean he led i mean

00:18:48.820 a military coup it was an insurrection right i mean you have these people who are the average age was you

00:18:57.360 know 68 who are coming in with selfies we came very close to losing our democracy okay those were

00:19:06.680 insurrectionists now when megan kelly tried to gently say well those were not insurrectionists that's not

00:19:12.540 what insurrection means according to the letter of the law these were just people who yes i mean

00:19:17.960 trespassed in some sense and that you know they weren't supposed to be in certain places even though

00:19:22.200 they were invited in even though there was a polite exchange with the capital police and so on no no

00:19:28.460 no it really was an insurrection we came within millimeters of losing our democracy and how did we

00:19:33.980 do that it's because the dictator donald trump was egging them on to do that even though he repeatedly

00:19:40.940 said in his speech you know go down and peacefully protest right but that was viewed by bill maher as an

00:19:48.380 example indistinguishable from the most brutal military coups that have been that have littered

00:19:55.260 history he was he he's never relinquished power he tried to actually institute a military dictatorship

00:20:01.760 with the tofu viking you know the guy who walks around with the the viking stuff who's a i guess he's a

00:20:08.240 vegan or something so i call him the tofu viking that that was the the leader of the military coup

00:20:13.320 he said there were police officers who were killed during the january 6 insurrection legan kelly very

00:20:24.600 gently uh corrected him and said there's not a single police officer no no they were there were no there

00:20:31.640 wasn't a single one that the one that you're thinking about is someone who later had a stroke after the

00:20:37.940 the the the january 6 incident as a matter of fact the only person who died on january 6

00:20:44.820 is a woman who was shot by capital police yeah okay well whatever whatever well what do you mean

00:20:52.460 whatever you just said an unbelievable lie now here's the point either you are so detached from reality

00:21:00.360 you're so misinformed that you're you're uh promulgating the narrative that police officers

00:21:08.140 died during the insurrection which is complete falsehood or you know it's a falsehood but you're

00:21:15.900 used to you know speaking to you know your uh audience who's completely enamored and captive to you

00:21:24.140 so that you could say anything up is down down is you know freedom is slavery i mean slavery is freedom

00:21:30.080 men are women and people will just you know like good little seals laugh and clap so either you're

00:21:37.340 bafflingly uninformed and ignorant or you're willfully spreading lies so when it comes out that it is

00:21:46.960 incontrovertible that it is not true what he said that police died police and in plural died during the

00:21:56.700 violent insurrection he just goes yeah okay whatever that's the way you choose to see it no no no that's

00:22:03.400 not the way i choose to see it it's called reality so someone who doesn't have intellectual hubris someone

00:22:10.300 who is epistemically humble says wow okay i i guess i was misinformed i was wrong my apologies thank you for

00:22:19.520 correcting me megan he didn't do that uh then she told him she started saying well how how could you

00:22:27.440 i mean if you seem to be so into these these principles i mean she didn't use the term

00:22:31.940 deontological principles this is something that that that i use right when i talk about deontological

00:22:36.780 versus consequentialist ethics she goes well what do you think about when hunter biden's laptop

00:22:43.000 was suppressed that story was suppressed uh so that you know he joe biden won precisely because

00:22:51.660 uh there was a complete collusion to suppress that story his answer was ah come on who cares about that

00:22:58.080 nobody gives a shit about the hunter biden story and where his penis has been and what kind of drugs

00:23:03.980 he's on and then she corrected him and said well but that i'm not talking about his personal conduct

00:23:08.460 i'm talking about that there was a huge amount of incontrovertible evidence of the astounding

00:23:15.680 criminal corruption of his father who was running for president of the united states oh come on there's

00:23:22.340 no such thing what are you talking about this is nonsense right and of course then she quoted

00:23:27.720 studies you know estimates that show that had people known about uh you know the uh the hunter biden

00:23:36.900 story had not been suppressed in cahoots between all the journalists and social media platforms

00:23:41.660 then there could have been a swing in the other direction of 10 to 12 percent i think those were

00:23:47.780 the numbers oh come on you right so despite the fact that he's receiving this evidence that the

00:23:53.560 deontological violation he didn't care about incidentally joe biden is astoundingly more dangerous

00:24:01.760 to united states than donald trump could ever be again this doesn't mean that i love donald trump

00:24:09.860 i'm canadian i don't have posters of him in in my bedroom which my wife and i use as marital aid

00:24:16.620 for our you know instead of playing barry white music we just look at a uh donald trump poster but it's

00:24:24.520 because i actually care about reality i care about truth joe biden has been a orgiastic racist for 50

00:24:34.580 plus years there's a million examples of that so if you're a quote liberal who cares about fighting

00:24:39.600 racism then you certainly would be anti joe biden joe biden has been astoundingly corrupt we also have

00:24:48.760 stories about him having been uh rather unsavory towards women we have that information joe biden has

00:24:57.600 been a plagiarist he's lied he's engaged in political corruption pay you know uh pay to play

00:25:04.320 uh that should have sent them to probably prison for the rest of his life uh he supports the transgender

00:25:11.860 stuff when when megan kelly said well i care about my daughter not being in a dressing room with a guy

00:25:18.640 with his penis he's ah come on but that that's not important as democracy right so bill maher doesn't

00:25:26.440 have any children so bill maher doesn't have the theory of mind that says you know what most people

00:25:31.640 actually care that their women and their young girls and daughters don't share a track and field meet

00:25:38.840 or a swimming pool or showers with a six foot two guy with a nine inch penis who tomorrow morning

00:25:45.840 calls himself linda bill maher suddenly loses his classical liberal credentials when it comes to

00:25:52.700 that oh come on nobody takes that stuff seriously okay open borders you want to talk about an

00:25:59.360 existential threat to the united states what could be a greater threat than the fact that joe biden

00:26:06.640 has done everything in his power to leave the borders completely porous allowing millions of people to

00:26:15.040 come in and alter the fabric of the united states arguably forever more donald trump doesn't believe

00:26:20.940 in that i could go on with another 74 000 examples of how joe biden is astoundingly more dangerous to

00:26:27.680 the ethos of the united states but no bill maher has said all that is erased because according to him

00:26:35.280 the ultimate measure of how much donald trump is an existential threat is that he has not used the words

00:26:41.640 i concede that i lost fairly and squarely okay so there can't be a better case study

00:26:51.580 of what happens to a mind once it never wants to alter an anchored position so what happened with bill

00:27:02.140 maher on megan kelly is twofold number one how apparently he was you know bafflingly misinformed

00:27:09.500 if i'm being charitable if it wasn't that he was misinformed about all this then my god was he

00:27:14.680 willfully duplicitous and deceptive because he's promulgating known lies you know many cops were killed

00:27:21.680 on january 6th uh no there weren't any not a single one not one right and and then perhaps this is more

00:27:31.960 of a style issue but it's still important his smugness his arrogance you could sense that

00:27:37.880 you it didn't take much for her to rile him up he became defensive and yet the book is about hey we

00:27:45.320 need to have uh conversations with each other oh and but by the way asterix if you challenge me too

00:27:52.920 much about my bullshit then i'm going to get smug and arrogant and belittle you and call you silly

00:27:59.060 and stupid so there goes my chance of ever being invited on the bill marshall i hope i'll learn to

00:28:07.300 love again what would i do if i don't have bill mars platform if bill maher were uh the guy that he

00:28:15.220 thinks he is i would be receiving an email in the next few minutes saying dear dr sad bill maher would

00:28:22.940 love to have you on his show and then you would see what happens when i pull a reason she had on his ass

00:28:29.840 and to use his term when i tear him a new asshole i can't stand that kind of obnoxiousness i despise

00:28:37.620 that kind of haughtiness all right guys it was about 30 minutes this thing impromptu i'm about to

00:28:44.740 return to the conference later today i am meeting oh god i love this guy

00:28:50.580 jorge mass who is the majority owner of inter miami i'm saying this not to name drop just because

00:29:00.900 one of the things that i'm so thankful for in all of my public engagement is that i've gotten to meet

00:29:07.500 some absolute absolutely remarkable people who are such gems i'm hoping to maybe uh eventually

00:29:17.680 invite jorge on a on a chat on my show because he is the the epitome of the classic american dream

00:29:25.880 his family comes with not much they they create an incredible reality for themselves they become

00:29:33.740 usually successful uh they do big things he's the majority owner of inter miami i mean who would

00:29:41.400 have thought that this immigrant family would one day be hanging out with lino messi i i've gotten to

00:29:48.100 know him we've become friends it's a it's an honor and privilege for me to call him a friend i'll be

00:29:54.460 heading down to the inter miami offices later uh not sure if uh i'll have a chance on this trip to

00:30:01.060 meet la pulca is that i think that's how you say it in spanish the the flea if i'll be meeting lino

00:30:08.340 messi but uh anyways it's just it's unbelievable when you put yourself out there yes you take a lot

00:30:15.120 of flight but you also meet some people that otherwise the cosmos would have never allowed you

00:30:20.080 to interact with each other so i wish you all a great day uh do good play have fun love don't

00:30:30.200 wallow all day in nastiness uh always be honest when you are wrong admit that you're wrong one of

00:30:36.860 the reasons why i have a wonderful marriage for 25 years now with my wife is that we we don't have

00:30:43.520 the hubris to not admit when we're wrong if if i'm short to her i won't say i'm not gonna apologize

00:30:49.940 i go and i say hey sweetie sorry i answered you in a really obnoxious manner please forgive me and then

00:30:56.600 it's over right you don't go to bed you don't go to bed angry uh so you know we all make mistakes

00:31:04.020 we all take positions sometimes that we need to revise in light of incoming information boy i wish

00:31:10.160 bill mar would hate that lesson thank you so much guys thank you for coming i hope that you enjoyed

00:31:16.800 this impromptu thing i'm off back to the academic conference i gotta tell you one last thing before i go

00:31:22.260 i just remembered it's been a few years i've attended an academic conference because of course

00:31:27.560 there was covid and so on i have to tell you while i am through and through an academic being a

00:31:32.840 professor is in my dna i've always wanted to be an academic i have to tell you that some of the

00:31:38.820 academics the the research that they do is so small-minded so myopic so stay in your lane that as

00:31:45.040 i was sitting at some of these sessions i was thinking whether it would be more fun to be

00:31:50.120 injecting directly into my eyeballs ebola there you go guys love you all thank you for your support

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The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - May 26, 2024

Bill Maher's Irrationality on Megyn Kelly's Show (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_674)

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