The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - November 05, 2026


Brian Kilmeade - Author of ＂Uniting the States＂ and the 2026 Midterm Elections (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_1073)

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00:01:05.980 Hi, everybody. This is Gadsad. Today, I think I have either a repeat or a trepeat guest,
00:01:11.480 Brian Kilmeade, the superstar who apparently never sleeps. He's always working on Fox. Whenever I
00:01:16.640 turn on the TV. He's on Fox, morning, night. First, welcome, Brian. How are you doing?
00:01:21.720 Yeah, thanks for having me on. Role reversal a little bit, right?
00:01:24.960 Indeed, indeed. So today we want to talk about this latest book. Let me put it up right here.
00:01:30.640 Just came out. Wonderful book, Uniting the States, Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American
00:01:36.240 Miracle. I looked at the six individuals. I don't know if I should feel ashamed that there is one
00:01:41.880 name that i didn't know uh captain daniel shays maybe we could start with him if only because of
00:01:47.280 my ignorance we could start there but you could take it wherever you want to go well i mean i
00:01:50.660 just think that uh at a time in year 250 we need to appreciate the country and i'm watching a lot
00:01:55.820 of these candidates today and they don't understand really what the country's about oh we want to fix
00:02:01.600 this we want to get rid of this institution you want to get rid of the presidency these
00:02:04.540 socialist candidates we want to we want to get rid of the senate remember uh you know we want
00:02:10.060 to get rid of prisons and to think how hard our founding fathers thought and with the way they
00:02:15.540 studied in order to come up with this concept called the united states of america what they
00:02:19.680 fought for literally in war uh to get the get the constitution uh i just thought if you had a nice
00:02:26.920 if they had an idea about our history they would appreciate it although the one the senator the
00:02:32.020 senate-elect from michigan i think is hopeless i don't think there's any way to get them to
00:02:35.540 appreciate our country. And with Daniel Shays is a typical American in this respect. The war starts,
00:02:41.540 he says, sign me up. He's an ensign. He fights so fearlessly and courageously, he goes rocketing up
00:02:47.500 the ladder, ends up at Captain Daniel Shays. He fights so impressively and shows such great
00:02:52.200 leadership that Lafayette says, man, I've never seen anyone fight like you. Can you please take
00:02:56.860 this sword on behalf of my country? So he said, fine, humble guy, kept in his farm. He was like,
00:03:02.820 just want to be a farmer. So when they go to Massachusetts, he and his farmers start doing
00:03:08.240 what they do best, start growing their own personal economy. But they want hard cash.
00:03:12.960 Farmers don't have hard cash. They have stuff. They have crops. They want to exchange it. So
00:03:17.120 when it came to a vote, they were outnumbered by the merchants, the shopkeepers, the politicians,
00:03:21.300 the teachers. So the farmers didn't have a voice. Well, they had a few bad seasons. They took out
00:03:26.280 loans to grow crops and get seed. And when they weren't able to pay their debt, guess what? They
00:03:30.940 went to debtor's prison. Finally, these guys were fed up because when you went to get out of debtor's
00:03:35.720 prison, they said, can you pay? He said, of course not. I've been in prison. Back to prison. So all
00:03:40.200 these farmers said, Daniel, you got to lead us. We got to get a voice in this government. No one's
00:03:44.560 listening to us. So they blocked the courthouse. They tried to get their demands met. They wanted
00:03:49.720 to start doing some exchanges. In the end, they got met by another militia. First, they aimed over
00:03:54.700 their heads. Then they aimed for their heads. They get dispersed. Two die. Two get hanged.
00:03:58.840 daniel shays gets banished for an insurrection bottom line is it's such a huge story and he's
00:04:05.680 got such a great reputation it gets all the way to washington now gad there's the rock star of
00:04:12.040 his day known internationally is george washington everyone knew the articles of confederation
00:04:16.660 weren't working we were trying to be 13 different countries instead of one country uniting the
00:04:22.820 states and they just massachusetts wanted nothing to do with new york and their economy and vice
00:04:27.100 versa, all the way down, up and down the eastern seaboard. So when Washington, they kept trying to
00:04:32.720 get Washington to get together and help write a constitution. But until the Shays' Rebellion 0.99
00:04:37.440 and Madison and Henry Knox go to see him, he would not listen. Finally, we realized, almost like 0.89
00:04:42.960 Godfather III, when they came up to Al Pacino in the kitchen, and he's wearing a sweater, and he
00:04:49.560 said, every time they pull me out, every time I try to get out, they pull me back in. The general
00:04:53.980 wanted to be a general and just be a farmer but instead he gets taken off his plantation he says
00:04:59.560 i gotta save this country what's left of it before it's too late and because of washington and that
00:05:05.840 insurrection that got his attention we wouldn't have our constitution and i'll give you a paraphrase
00:05:11.960 of the quote james madison said if it wasn't for daniel shea's little rebellion we would have never
00:05:17.180 been able to write the constitution so i thought i don't want to just talk about war i want to talk
00:05:21.820 about moments like the Louisiana Purchase that made our country what it is today. And those
00:05:26.860 moments. So people hopefully would appreciate the country that can't sit down and read a thousand
00:05:31.860 page book on Ulysses S. Grant or Truman. They're fun believable. But I, you know, you and I might
00:05:39.180 do that. Take me a while. But no one's going to do it. Doesn't have a passion for history.
00:05:43.060 My hope in 65 pages, you're going to get six stories and you're going to arm yourself at the
00:05:47.420 next tailgate, the next sports bar conversation, when someone says, yeah, this country was never
00:05:52.040 that great. Well, I beg to differ. And here's why. You know, that's my hope. How do you?
00:05:58.680 All of these men obviously met the moment. They were grand in various ways. They might have had
00:06:04.000 military courage. They were men of letters. They were well-spoken. They were fantastic writers.
00:06:09.360 They were well-read. And so they literally had to be larger than life characters that met the
00:06:14.760 moment. Do you feel at the 250th anniversary of the United States, as we're facing some new
00:06:20.180 challenges as per the new senator-elect of Michigan, do you feel that there are any down
00:06:26.280 the pipeline, any potential men that could meet the current existential threats that we're facing?
00:06:32.880 Gad, you know what I think that man or woman has got to do? It's got to not necessarily lead by, 0.97
00:06:39.120 OK, follow me. It's got to be like, join me. I think that no matter what you think of Republicans or what you think of Democrats, the next great man or woman will be the one that legitimately wants to bring the country together.
00:06:54.340 And that means not getting everything you want. You tell a conservative that not every
00:06:59.280 illegal immigrant is going to go and they don't want to hear it. You tell a Democrat that illegal
00:07:06.060 immigrants should go and they don't want any of them to go. I want someone who only says I'll 0.99
00:07:12.440 serve four years if it's a president and I don't care what it takes. Hey, I need to get immigration
00:07:17.780 reform. What do you need? Well, I'm going to need the dreamers done. Every Republican, Don Jr.,
00:07:22.060 all these guys. They'll storm out of the room. Well, what do you need in terms? Well, I'm going
00:07:26.220 to need these sanctuary cities to go away. Okay. What else do you need? Well, those people that
00:07:31.140 have been here over 40 years and working on farms, they need a long-term work visa. Okay,
00:07:36.460 fine. The next great American leader will be a uniter. And they have to ignore their own party
00:07:45.340 and find a way to get things done. And then it'll be, I believe, we'll be catching momentum.
00:07:51.060 And you and I will be on this podcast for 45 minutes talking about who got the better deal.
00:07:56.300 Like in sports, there's a big trade.
00:07:58.160 Who got the better deal?
00:07:59.120 Well, we're not going to know for years who got the better deal.
00:08:01.420 Well, who got the better deal?
00:08:02.640 Well, who's in the minority?
00:08:03.640 What's the best they could possibly hope for?
00:08:05.280 I hope my shows are dominated by deals because we can't keep on doing I won, you lost.
00:08:12.240 We have to do I won, but you didn't lose.
00:08:15.380 What do you need?
00:08:16.900 Okay, I won. 0.82
00:08:17.880 You know, I got the dominance in the House and Senate.
00:08:20.400 But it doesn't mean that you're going to be invisible.
00:08:22.780 I want to meet once a week.
00:08:24.580 I want the 10 things that you know.
00:08:26.780 And you remember George Bush got all that blowback for reaching out to Ted Kennedy first
00:08:31.080 and doing No Child Left Behind or whatever they did together.
00:08:35.540 He didn't care.
00:08:36.780 You know, he's like, I'm going to do it.
00:08:38.400 And it ends up not being the most united thing because they disagreed on what they finally
00:08:41.480 agreed on.
00:08:42.420 But I would love to see that.
00:08:44.820 And you just don't care.
00:08:45.680 Don't let a conservative or extreme liberal or a libertarian or a socialist, you've got to just take the barbs from all sides in order to get the deal done for the country.
00:08:58.940 So, fine. I mean, being a great uniter would be a wonderful quality in a future president.
00:09:04.040 But there are some ideologies that are seeped their way into our, you know, non-starters.
00:09:10.120 Yeah, right. You know, communism slash socialism. I don't use the word. I don't use ism. I don't say Islamism, Islam. Right. Yes. Again, I've said it a million times. There might be millions of lovely, perfectly sweet, kind, peaceful Muslims.
00:09:25.420 But the core tenets of Islam couldn't be any more perfectly incongruent with all of the foundational tenets of American exceptionalism. 0.99
00:09:35.860 Well, now you have out of 100 senators, one senator who not only just happens to be Muslim, but otherwise shares all of the foundational values that you and I love. 1.00
00:09:46.480 He actually has exhibited endless evidence to the contrary. 0.70
00:09:50.960 And yet, because all of the sweet American Jews who are suicidally empathetic don't want to succumb to Gad Saad's meanness and his Islamophobia, they vote 60 percent for him. 0.92
00:10:02.800 So forget about crazy. Getting a unifier is wonderful, Brian.
00:10:07.400 But you can't exist as an American republic if you have ideologies that are perfectly committed to ending that American exceptionalism.
00:10:18.880 And I agree with that. That's not who I had in mind. You know, there's certain people on the fringe, the squad and now the block. And now they have two groups. I don't think that they have our country's best interests in mind. In fact, I don't even think they understand our country.
00:10:36.460 Do you ever hear AOC talk for any period of time about foreign relations?
00:10:40.480 She's about an eighth of an inch deep.
00:10:42.620 Doesn't want to study, doesn't want to know it.
00:10:44.340 I mean, you don't have to be an expert.
00:10:45.860 You have to understand history.
00:10:47.120 I bet you she couldn't name who was in World War II.
00:10:49.880 You know, but that's who we're looking at.
00:10:52.400 I can't help those people.
00:10:54.320 My hope is there's other people.
00:10:56.780 Like, you know, I can't, I mean, obviously, 1.00
00:10:59.940 I couldn't be more disappointed with Michiganders for putting him in, 0.98
00:11:03.640 especially when you got a guy like mike rogers who takes off republicans because he wasn't 0.73
00:11:09.820 conservative enough and is a veteran with kids serving who also was in the fbi who also knows
00:11:16.680 business because he made he had success on his own i looked at that guy as ideal that's what you do
00:11:21.280 okay i'm successful i want to serve my country but the people of michigan a resound you know
00:11:27.380 seven point loss to that this guy and so what it's crazy so obviously i i mean i you you've
00:11:35.520 been kind enough to invite me on your show so you're familiar with my work i wrote the parasitic
00:11:39.200 mind suicidal empathy and so on how we hijack our cognitive system how we hijack our emotional
00:11:45.240 system is there as the guy who is hoping to administer this mind vaccine to americans so
00:11:51.340 that we can keep America as our grandparents had it. Is there a effective vaccine that can
00:11:58.380 inoculate all of these imbeciles against this nonsense? Or are we just going to die death by 1.00
00:12:03.940 a thousand cuts? That's a good question. This is what I say. Do you know the reason why the 0.89
00:12:10.280 Democrat won in Kansas, why they won in South Carolina, why they won in Texas? They pretended
00:12:17.280 to be republicans i mean if you think about it they pretended to be republicans they said no no
00:12:22.660 i'm for a strong border no no men in women's sports and you know what i i was i was inarticulate
00:12:28.200 i was being provocative we're talking about tala rico right now right yeah and but i could be 1.00
00:12:32.660 talking about that other woman whose name will lose me i'll get to know well who beat darlene
00:12:36.200 graham right and then the reverend uh preacher who won in kansas first time since 1932 yeah so
00:12:44.200 he pretended to be they all pretend to be republican so at the very first i would call
00:12:48.820 him out on it this is what you stand this is what you said you stand for if these are the things you
00:12:53.200 stand for then you bring them in and trump can probably work with them on getting something
00:12:58.340 done so i would i would start there and you know there's a few i would uh uh you know there would
00:13:05.040 be other people that i hope would start running like the joe mansions of the world who are
00:13:08.980 perfectly reasonable kristin cinema i know she's i guess her personal life's a little wacky but 0.96
00:13:13.600 she's pretty, she took some courageous stands. So John Fetterman gives me great hope, still a
00:13:20.200 liberal Democrat, but gives me great hope that there's going to be something there. So my hope
00:13:26.600 that there's going to be, I'll put it this way, I think it would have been a totally different 0.96
00:13:33.720 election if President Trump had finished the job with Iran and didn't drag it out and we didn't
00:13:38.380 have high gas and utility prices and the war was not looking at as a lingering Middle Eastern war.
00:13:44.980 If he had gone in, finished it off, whatever it was done, and the gas prices were $2.90,
00:13:49.960 it would be showing that that capitalist philosophy works. But right now it's been
00:13:56.100 temporarily band-aided until we can get that situation fixed. I would think success leaves
00:14:03.120 clues. I think that DEI is more dead than alive. I think that whole green fever is broken. So this
00:14:12.560 is the type of things that give me hope. Do I think that Hakeem Jeffries is going to talk about
00:14:15.960 subsidizing renewables? Yeah. But do I really think that he's going to get a global movement
00:14:20.460 that has people dropping traffic and taking over buildings in order to stop climate change?
00:14:27.440 I think a lot of that stuff is the fever is broken. That's the type of thing that gives me hope.
00:14:32.100 well that's good because i earlier today i posted a sort of rather somber uh tweet that has since
00:14:39.700 gone viral you know people call me the happy warrior in that i you know engage in all sorts
00:14:45.020 of battles but i'm always smiling but then when i see the results you know i mean okay i i don't
00:14:49.940 know much about ken paxton but okay you got ken paxton you got talarico i listened to all the
00:14:55.360 positions of talarico and i say so texas decided that that got that's the ethos of texas you know
00:15:02.980 the the jews i don't want to i know you work at fox or maybe you don't want me to mention someone
00:15:07.900 but there's a jewish woman at fox who loves abdul abdul uh rahman muhammad al sayed i'll say it with 0.96
00:15:14.960 the proper arabic thing she says that you know she will not tolerate the jews will succumb to 0.99
00:15:19.740 islamophobia she's jewish she'd be the first one who'd be in the lineup for the gang rapes and 0.91
00:15:24.780 the shooting in the head, but yet she is much more enlightened than Gad Saad, who had to live 0.96
00:15:30.380 under the boot of Islam in Lebanon. But she went to Wellesley and sips coffee in Manhattan clubs, 0.94
00:15:37.640 so she knows better. She's more enlightened. So how do we break through these people? Because
00:15:42.160 I spend all my day, I get paid a lot less than you do, Brian Kilmeade, and yet I spend all my
00:15:48.380 days in an indefatigable attempt to try to wake up people, and I don't know if I'm getting through
00:15:54.320 to them can can we get through them you can too especially i think absolutely number one you know
00:16:00.640 the whole thing with russia and ukraine why it's hard to say that ukraine needs to be defended is
00:16:05.100 crazy why it's hard to say that uh that israel needs to be defended and financed i was you know
00:16:11.100 i was on with the president when he's like i'm keeping back four billion dollars in order to
00:16:14.220 not give democrats a talking point i'm against that so i think that um i think that you know
00:16:21.220 I don't know who you're mentioning at Fox, but who's anti-Israel or anti-Jew or anti-Semitic.
00:16:28.220 No, anti-survival instinct and that she's Jewish, but says that to defend Abdul El-Sayed would be Islamophobic and she won't tolerate that Islamophobia.
00:16:40.000 Wow. It's crazy because you're like Zutty Jasser. Do you know him? 0.93
00:16:44.480 I do.
00:16:44.840 So if you go and say he's an Islamist because he's Muslim, I go, guys, what are you talking about?
00:16:51.440 What am I missing?
00:16:53.000 I mean, every time I talk to him, there's no way that you should have anything against him.
00:16:59.180 So I would defend him unless you could show me some clip.
00:17:02.900 But you should have to defend your words and your actions and the socialists, the conferences you attend 0.58
00:17:09.580 and where your mother supports a Muslim brotherhood and your sister supports a Muslim brotherhood. 0.78
00:17:14.280 this is such a joke and the thing is though if i told you this in 2020 not you but if i said this
00:17:21.360 2020 they'd be like okay that's what i feel i hope uh hope it's not a problem i really feel in 2026
00:17:27.260 we could come out and say it you gotta be kidding i'm really worried about this guy's a jihadist
00:17:32.380 i'm really worried that his loyalty is to another country i'm really worried that this uh that this
00:17:38.020 former university of michigan student cares more about a non-existing country called palestine
00:17:44.380 I'm worried about his actual answer and who's a bigger threat to America, Iran. 1.00
00:17:48.860 So I have no problem saying that. 1.00
00:17:51.480 And I don't think anybody here has a problem saying that.
00:17:53.980 And if that person was on our couch, I would engage that person.
00:17:58.220 That's the thing about Fox.
00:17:59.880 So be respectful.
00:18:01.700 But I don't, you know, someone sits down there and tells me how Vladimir Putin's a great guy.
00:18:05.100 I don't care if they're my colleague.
00:18:06.740 It's going to, I'm going to go, you got to be kidding me.
00:18:08.900 And if you're going to tell me that this guy doesn't have problems in his background, I would say you're not paying attention.
00:18:14.800 I'd be able to say it on camera. Be polite, because they're colleagues, but I would be polite.
00:18:20.040 So let me put up the book again. The six gentlemen that you reference in this fantastic book, if I ask you to engage in a speculative exercise, they're alive today.
00:18:30.720 And we have them in the Zoom meeting where all eight of us, the six plus us two, are talking about exactly what we're talking about.
00:18:38.180 are they all going to be in unison with us and saying what the hell is going on or are they going
00:18:43.220 to saying oh what it's wonderful there's plurality in the united states socialists have a voice 0.68
00:18:48.360 and islamic maniacs have a voice it's wonderful where would they fall on this current reality i
00:18:54.100 think they'd be a number one i think overall because i get this question a lot they'd be 0.96
00:18:58.140 thrilled that we became the number one economic and military superpower in the world because you
00:19:02.180 know we would we would wrestling with slavery north south separation you know all that so number
00:19:07.580 number two is not one of them would be open to this but they are such intellectuals madison and
00:19:13.320 jefferson especially intellectuals they're not the firebrands of the alexander hamilton but they
00:19:18.560 seem to be somebody who would sit down and talk and engage remember um jefferson would just read
00:19:23.600 the quran he's got his own markings in the margins read the quran so he'd be tolerant but you'd have
00:19:29.400 to come with your a-game with all these guys and they'll say hey listen i'm open to it let me know
00:19:34.420 because i've already studied your book and i studied my book and he wasn't necessarily this
00:19:38.620 this bible thumper as you know jefferson had doubts about religion james monroe i don't really
00:19:44.360 know about him but man a war fighter who seems to secretary of state secretary of war who fought
00:19:50.320 in the revolution and the other guy who featured john quincy adams this guy is as worldly as it
00:19:55.280 gets i do not think who probably the most qualified president not saying he was the best
00:19:59.800 obviously but john quincy adams who's the conscience of the country i mean this these
00:20:04.640 guys are just esteemed intellectuals they wouldn't be able to tolerate it and you know there were
00:20:09.280 people over america that were illiterate so these guys were still respected but the but the people
00:20:15.220 our founding fathers were probably the most well-read people including even though washington
00:20:20.380 wouldn't say it i'd say washington if you look at what his library is if you check it out of mount
00:20:24.220 vernon he's had different interest didn't have formal education so i think that they'd be pushing
00:20:29.020 back on all this but you know and and i think they'd be looking at europe right now you didn't
00:20:34.840 ask me about europe but looking at europe right now and saying that shows you what socialist is
00:20:39.400 and once again like 1789 the french revolution i think people would be like stay you know we don't
00:20:46.980 want any of this let's stay away from this i i think though i think i think that there's a frailty
00:20:52.420 in the architecture of the human mind, whereby you don't want to admit that the monster exists 0.99
00:20:59.560 until it literally takes a bite out of your behind, right? And so in my public engagement 0.98
00:21:04.940 for 32 plus years now, many people who for many years were saying, you know, I was being hyperbolic
00:21:11.800 and I was exaggerating and my positions are driven from my childhood trauma in Lebanon,
00:21:16.700 will now write to me privately and say, oops, I wish we would have listened to you. And so even
00:21:21.220 though we've got the model of what's happening in Europe to help us decide where we want America to
00:21:27.520 go, even though we've got Canada, which is not far from Europe, that's the place where I now
00:21:32.060 escaped from to go to Mississippi, most Americans will still say, well, diabetes doesn't exist
00:21:39.160 because I don't have diabetes. And it's only when the physician diagnoses me as my having diabetes
00:21:45.660 that diabetes exists.
00:21:47.300 How do we get people to have the ability
00:21:50.160 to extrapolate from current patterns
00:21:52.520 to understand that that monster is coming from us
00:21:55.540 in Nebraska, in Mississippi, in New York City
00:21:58.500 if we don't wake up soon?
00:22:00.880 Well, I think the good news is
00:22:02.360 sometimes social media is bad
00:22:03.880 and other times it could be a weapon.
00:22:05.580 This could be the best weapon to get it out.
00:22:07.660 And I think it's got to be an offensive weapon
00:22:09.580 to Instagram and it's got to be,
00:22:11.860 I think TikTok should be banned.
00:22:13.760 I think the president's totally wrong on that. 0.87
00:22:15.660 But I think we have to go ahead and tell people what is going on here with our ridiculous mayor, the new mayor that likely to take over in Los Angeles, two socialists. 0.64
00:22:24.220 Now we have two congresswomen who are extremists wearing Palestinian garb on their on their victory, on their their victory dinner that they were having yesterday. 0.88
00:22:34.940 So we had to just continue to point it out and continue to point it out and just team it as unacceptable.
00:22:40.000 But at the same time, they won legitimate elections.
00:22:43.140 So this is going to be really interesting because there's enough of a gap that Hakeem
00:22:48.380 Jeffries no longer doesn't have to do what Mike Johnson did and kind of kowtow to people's
00:22:54.660 agendas.
00:22:55.840 So Hakeem Jeffries does not have to subscribe to that.
00:22:59.380 So I'm wondering if, you know, since Jeffries says, I don't want Medicare for all, and he
00:23:05.460 has never been accused of being anti-Israel, that I could tell.
00:23:08.520 I'm wondering if there's Democratic leaders.
00:23:10.340 Maybe it's a maybe it's a rabbit hole that are going to say, yeah, I'm not paying any attention to the Chris Rabb over in Philadelphia.
00:23:18.160 I'm not paying attention to Chevalier in New York and the mayor of New York City, who, by the way, this might be primaring him.
00:23:26.940 You never know. He's putting putting people on him.
00:23:29.580 They seem to be somewhat rivals.
00:23:32.160 They've been endorsing different candidates.
00:23:34.200 I'm wondering if they're subtly going to realize that this is poison for them politically as well as poison for the country.
00:23:41.700 Do you have any hope that they realize that?
00:23:45.080 I mean, listen, there'd be no point for me to wake up in the morning, write the things that I do, have the chats that I'm having with you right now.
00:23:52.420 If I didn't think in the back of my mind, there is hope.
00:23:54.940 But here's what I see as a potential problem.
00:23:57.700 There is a cure for us to ride the ship, but I see no evidence that people have the testicular
00:24:06.400 fortitude to implement these, you know, autocorrective procedures. So take, for example,
00:24:12.060 immigration. The idea that every immigrant is equally likely to assimilate within the fabric
00:24:18.080 of American society is just astoundingly false. Like a three-day-old pigeon should be able to
00:24:24.540 recognize that that's a fallacy, right? I mean, a house cat is called a feline. A wild lion is
00:24:31.460 called a feline. Despite the fact that they're both called feline, I'm not as likely to cuddle
00:24:37.160 with either of them just because they're called feline. So Mohammed Ahmed, who just came back 0.95
00:24:41.920 from a summer camp in Waziristan with Al-Qaeda, is called an immigrant. Elon Musk is also called
00:24:48.040 an immigrant. The fact that they're both called immigrant doesn't mean that they will contribute
00:24:51.880 net positive to the United States. But what I just told you, which again should be obvious to a lamp,
00:24:59.860 apparently is not obvious to most people. When I say this in mixed company, people go,
00:25:03.680 oh my God, God, how dare you be so bigoted? But you are an immigrant yourself. Yeah, but I'm an
00:25:09.060 immigrant who happens to be holding the professorship at the Declaration of Independence
00:25:13.620 Center for the Study of American Freedom, because it took a Lebanese Jewish Canadian
00:25:18.160 to embody the ethos of American freedom,
00:25:22.740 whereas Ahmed Rahman,
00:25:24.880 Mohammed Abdul-Sahid,
00:25:26.720 he may be born in the United States,
00:25:28.620 but he's as American as, you know,
00:25:30.520 the old saying,
00:25:31.680 if a human being is born in a stable,
00:25:34.800 doesn't make him a horse, right?
00:25:36.360 So how do we get people 1.00
00:25:38.200 to break through this tsunami of stupidity, Brian? 1.00
00:25:42.380 All I can do is do what we're doing. 1.00
00:25:44.520 I mean, I can't go into people individually.
00:25:46.900 also you could start running reasonable people against them right you know it would be very
00:25:52.000 interesting i mean i'm not sure what they could ever do but it'd be very interesting if the
00:25:55.960 republicans ever came up with a city strategy to start running at these socialists in the cities
00:26:00.700 that's where we're really locating them so i would just think that what you got to do is message
00:26:05.120 and i think you got to have like a donald trump one thing about trump he knew exactly what to do
00:26:09.700 on immigration he says why are we taking people from these other countries they have nothing
00:26:13.620 they don't know nothing about our culture we should be able to pick and choose who comes here 0.95
00:26:17.300 and first thing we got to do is stop the people from sneaking in here and he did both and it's
00:26:22.360 proven to be right what's happened to europe if you see what's happening with those riots and the
00:26:26.380 problems that they're having in their schools and people living off the social services of those
00:26:30.640 countries so i think by pointing that out ultimately i think we'll win out i'm very curious to see if
00:26:37.440 they're going to go back to the crazy agenda that they had with the green energy, with
00:26:44.300 the with all the DEI things and cops are bad, anti-law enforcement, because I think the
00:26:52.560 America, that would be the best thing to happen to Republicans.
00:26:55.120 But what happened is now, once Republicans got in power, they no longer were talking
00:26:58.860 about those things because it was more about the economy.
00:27:01.800 But I just think it's the electoral process that ultimately went out.
00:27:05.040 And the people for people who want socialism, they should go. We should have done a much better job on air.
00:27:12.900 And I guess people run for office to point out it's not worked anywhere ever.
00:27:17.140 Do you feel that given the results of yesterday's midterm election that you can say anything?
00:27:23.260 I mean, of course, you can't say anything definitive. It's difficult to predict anything.
00:27:26.480 But are you able to make any kind of on-air now prediction as to what that implies for the U.S. presidential elections in 2028?
00:27:36.500 No, I'm going to let it play out a little bit.
00:27:38.160 But I tell you one thing.
00:27:41.100 Don't think it's going to be just a coronation of J.D. Vance.
00:27:44.840 You mean the Republican side, you mean?
00:27:47.500 I think it's going to open up the whole thing.
00:27:50.840 It's going to open up the whole thing.
00:27:52.840 I think that Trump is no longer impervious, afraid to cross.
00:27:56.480 He's going to be strong like Clinton and Obama is going to pick his spots.
00:28:00.060 But I also think that people are looking past him for the first time ever because the midterms mattered so much.
00:28:05.220 So now, even if he says, J.D. is my guy and he says he's not, I think it opens up everybody to have real ideas.
00:28:12.180 And and it's going to be very interesting to see.
00:28:15.740 Bless you. It's going to be very interesting to see if people are going to be addressing anti-Semitism on the left, because if you do that, you're going to land right in El Syed's backyard. 0.88
00:28:26.480 Yeah. Because if you say you're not, you've got to be pretty hard. The most outspoken member of the Senate, I guarantee you, will be El-Sayed. He'll be the face of the Senate. And that'll be a gift to Republicans, I think.
00:28:38.620 You think so? From your lips, the glass ear. In terms of the cue of when you say open up the field, of course, we've got J.D. Vance. We've got Marco Rubio. Who would be some of the other guys?
00:28:49.800 Is it Josh? Ron DeSantis. I would think right away he gave a speech today at 10 o'clock,
00:28:57.740 talked about how Florida survived. He's very proud of his legacy. He also talked about what
00:29:01.860 everybody else did wrong. I go, wow, man, this guy is, let everybody know, I did my job. I have
00:29:06.760 a Republican governor replacing me and my appointed senator just won six more years.
00:29:11.500 They replaced Marco Rubio and they did pretty well elsewhere. No one else can say that. So,
00:29:16.660 And then you look at his track record.
00:29:18.360 I think he would consider jumping in.
00:29:19.960 He said to me last week, I only got one person in the Trump administration that likes me.
00:29:25.780 It's Trump.
00:29:26.780 And I go, you guys are all better.
00:29:27.880 He goes, oh, yeah, Brian, we're fine.
00:29:29.520 Literally, we talk four times a week.
00:29:31.360 So that's a big thing.
00:29:32.960 So Trump's not going to be jumping on him again.
00:29:35.720 So he'll just let him roll.
00:29:37.440 And the thing has been very effective.
00:29:38.620 I know he's a little, the charisma is not off the hook, but I think his track record is.
00:29:44.160 I think Glenn Youngkin would jump in.
00:29:45.860 ted cruz will jump in um josh holly josh holly tom cotton i'm not sure okay because tom cotton
00:29:55.040 says kids are a little young still okay and his wife wants him home and he also got to scare this
00:30:00.200 election even though he's been the most effective senator period a lot of stuff he does under the 0.90
00:30:04.720 wire but he is ridiculously bright understands the china threat the middle eastern threat
00:30:10.100 he could be secretary of defense in a second and do a fantastic job but i think that he's
00:30:15.940 eventually going to jump in i think dave mccormick would be a great alternative
00:30:20.060 west point grad uh huge success in business ceo of brightwater for a while the number one hedge
00:30:27.300 fund in the world uh for a while under ray dalio and then a senator from pennsylvania that known
00:30:33.800 for reaching across the aisle yet conservative i think he'd be strong on the other side we've
00:30:39.940 got AOC. We've got Sleazy Lizard in California. Who else do we have? Kamala Harris. You got 0.98
00:30:47.260 Gavin Newsom. You clearly have Gavin Newsom. I think that, let me see, who else would be running
00:30:56.200 on the left for President of the United States? By the way, do you know that Kamala Harris
00:31:00.260 was in Montreal? We're the same age. She was in Montreal at Westmount High School when I played
00:31:07.440 soccer for West Hill High School at the exact same time she could have been in the stands when
00:31:11.760 we played them and we were tied 3-3 and there was a penalty kick that was called for my team
00:31:17.640 and in one of the rare anomalies of life I missed that penalty kick can I blame Kamala Harris for
00:31:25.380 that missed penalty kick Brian yes yeah absolutely why not you got to do that um that is there's
00:31:32.580 Besides that, you're over it, right?
00:31:34.540 I am over it.
00:31:35.500 I don't know that.
00:31:36.420 It sounds like you're not.
00:31:37.740 I can imagine that.
00:31:38.880 Of the six people in this book, I'm placing you in a difficult position.
00:31:43.140 You can go to dinner at that fancy steakhouse next to the Fox headquarters.
00:31:48.240 I can't remember the name.
00:31:49.100 I've been with Greg Gutfeld to it.
00:31:51.200 Del Frisco's?
00:31:52.580 No, it's a short name.
00:31:54.600 Avra?
00:31:55.180 Yeah, exactly.
00:31:55.820 I think it's that one.
00:31:57.220 So you could take one of the six characters in this book with you to dinner.
00:32:03.280 Only one.
00:32:04.160 Who is it going to be and why?
00:32:06.300 Washington's too easy.
00:32:07.460 I'm going to grab James Monroe.
00:32:08.980 And here's why.
00:32:09.820 OK.
00:32:10.220 He is the Marco Rubio of his day.
00:32:12.400 After the War of 1812, 1814, they burned Washington down.
00:32:17.220 They go, hey, James, I know you're already Secretary of War, but I need you as Secretary
00:32:21.540 of State, but I need you to be Secretary of War.
00:32:23.240 I'm fired on John Armstrong.
00:32:24.920 Then, hey, we need a treaty.
00:32:26.000 I need to buy New Orleans.
00:32:29.260 I need you to go over there
00:32:32.380 and convince Napoleon to sell it to us.
00:32:36.340 They send James Monroe
00:32:37.300 when Ambassador Livingston couldn't do it.
00:32:39.580 So he gets that done.
00:32:40.900 Washington needs a chief aid
00:32:42.360 and to keep everybody's morale up.
00:32:45.740 He fought by Washington's side,
00:32:47.060 almost died before the crossing of the Delaware,
00:32:49.280 but he was at every consequential event,
00:32:51.660 learned to lead there.
00:32:53.560 And then also the Monroe Doctrine.
00:32:56.000 came up with that that we're we're dialing into again and he gets no credit ever and he never
00:33:02.260 wants it you know madison loved him jefferson loved him washington loved him every hamilton
00:33:07.040 loved him everybody loved this guy and then when i pitch it to my editors to do something on my row
00:33:12.460 they go nobody cares i go guys read read what this guy has done and the fact that you could be so
00:33:19.020 selfless and not be so self-promoting during it i loved it sadly like all of them they end up
00:33:24.340 running out of money uh and he had to live with his daughter died in new york city in an apartment
00:33:29.380 kind of nondescript but it's just so with the treaty again was signed he was there
00:33:34.400 you know so i just i've always said who is this guy why does he not get more credit and during
00:33:40.360 his eight years in office i don't i think it was like this this was the era of good times i think
00:33:45.640 they called it we're just we just grew so that's the one guy i like to have dinner with because i
00:33:51.820 think he's seen everybody met everybody and he's done everything and gets no credit so i like those
00:33:57.220 guys okay a couple of uh personal questions because i know i want to be mindful of your time
00:34:01.560 we've got about 12 12 13 minutes left uh you know the way you speak about history it's obviously
00:34:07.280 infectious and i i wonder if i might have mentioned this before but it's worth repeating even if i've
00:34:11.500 done so have you ever i mean you obviously reach a lot more people given the platform you have at
00:34:18.020 Fox to make people interested in history. But in a different world, if you if you played the
00:34:23.700 sliding doors game, could you have seen yourself being a professional historian and academic or is
00:34:30.720 that world too slow for you and you're exactly where you need to be? I think I I mean, I love
00:34:36.580 it. I did 72 episodes of What Made America Great, 45 minute documentary, 72. So I did everything
00:34:42.160 for going to Ernest Hemingway's
00:34:44.280 house in the Keys
00:34:44.980 to Mount Vernon, of course,
00:34:48.340 and Monticello and the Alamo
00:34:49.800 at Thomas Edison's house.
00:34:51.460 We just did a feature on,
00:34:52.480 which is absolutely amazing.
00:34:53.880 But I like going
00:34:55.180 and then coming out
00:34:56.060 and then living my life
00:34:56.960 because I think those,
00:34:58.440 I'm just such in awe
00:34:59.480 of people that can take years off
00:35:01.020 and just study
00:35:01.800 one event in history.
00:35:03.800 And like the John Meachams
00:35:05.020 of the world,
00:35:05.540 David McCullough,
00:35:06.320 when he was alive,
00:35:07.740 Ron Chernow.
00:35:09.180 I mean, you don't read
00:35:10.100 these books and go,
00:35:10.800 oh, they left so much out
00:35:11.820 I could do better. I don't think I could do better. But I would love to communicate it. I
00:35:16.400 would love to have a platform to communicate it more to get people more passion for it. So if I
00:35:22.320 could do something educationally around the country, not to be rich, but to start getting
00:35:27.380 the 8, 10 and 12 year olds passionate about our past, and I would do it by bringing them to the
00:35:32.960 places. So I could talk about Washington. I actually thought for a while, Washington was
00:35:36.760 just like a superhero when i was little and then when people show me well this is where he lived
00:35:41.860 this is what he wore that's an exact that's an exact duplicate of his face what his face looked
00:35:47.100 like the closest ever and this is what his worries were this is what his letters showed he was very
00:35:52.080 cognizant of his teeth and his education he was self-conscious he had doubts when they humanized
00:35:57.780 these people for me i love that's what i loved it when they told me what jefferson had freckles
00:36:02.680 and red hair and loved to exercise and ride his horse.
00:36:06.500 I go, wait, wait a second.
00:36:08.160 He had a person.
00:36:09.900 He was a person like everybody else.
00:36:11.800 Obviously, he had his frailties like everybody else,
00:36:15.520 but yet he still managed to change the world.
00:36:18.080 So I think I would love to be able to humanize these people,
00:36:21.300 let people relate to these people,
00:36:23.180 and get kids excited about their country without selling it.
00:36:28.180 Just tell it.
00:36:29.260 Tell the story of the country and then say,
00:36:31.480 I got news for you guys.
00:36:32.340 this is your story write your chapter now amazing uh i don't know if this is appropriate for me to
00:36:38.500 ask but i ask it with all due levity do you ever get frustrated at how much greg gut felt uh you
00:36:45.880 know ribs on you or or is that part of the shtick you can sort of roll with it because sometimes
00:36:52.040 i'm watching it you know i i know greg well he's a he's a very nice guy i obviously know you and i
00:36:56.520 get the whole dynamic but sometimes i'm like okay greg it's too much man stop it do you feel that
00:37:01.520 or do you completely get the shtick and you roll with it?
00:37:04.440 Yeah, I mean, some things are funnier than others,
00:37:07.280 but I kind of like it.
00:37:09.840 I mean, my whole life,
00:37:10.800 I always liked the self-deprecating thing.
00:37:13.700 When people take shots at you,
00:37:15.340 I kind of find it fun.
00:37:17.720 I feel much better taking shots.
00:37:19.600 It demonstrates that you've got high confidence
00:37:22.100 if you could withstand that self-deprecation.
00:37:24.520 Oh, yeah.
00:37:25.400 And my feeling is, too,
00:37:27.100 one thing being at Fox,
00:37:28.680 there are people that are going to be convinced 1.00
00:37:30.140 you're great and people are certain you're not and then there are people think you're stupid and 0.98
00:37:34.320 people think you're a genius like i've gotten so used to all over what i just try to do is prepare 0.94
00:37:40.120 the best as possible try to bring conversational quality to the talking points and the radio show
00:37:44.760 and the sunday show and i just don't let opinions and then all of a sudden when i go out and do
00:37:50.080 these book tours every other question is about gut felt i go guys i go you mean specifically
00:37:55.520 about what i just raised yes i said everybody brings it up all the time so i go i go i think
00:38:00.140 it's kind of fun even when i was younger um i liked when my cousins picked on me or people
00:38:05.960 made fun of me it just i find it if i can keep the humor going i kind of like it i never want
00:38:12.760 to be the person with greg is greg is happy on the offense i've never i never feel comfortable
00:38:19.260 doing that like if i if i knew like i just don't feel comfortable attacking people unless i'm
00:38:24.260 fighting that literally fighting them but in life um you know if i'm in a verbal conversation or a
00:38:31.200 physical conversation but in life if i'm taking shots at people even if i get a laugh it doesn't
00:38:36.940 work for me right but greg it works for greg you know it does he takes shots at jesse too all the
00:38:42.700 time yeah yeah of course uh well luckily he's never uh gotten into that dynamic with me he's
00:38:48.360 still very respectful oh of course he's a lot uh but i was gonna i was gonna say you i think fox
00:38:54.380 recently celebrated 30 years yes that's yeah yeah uh what what would the informational landscape be
00:39:02.280 had fox not existed and i could link that question to what would have happened to the world had elon
00:39:09.580 not bought x in a sense they're the same question they're opening up so tell us a bit about that
00:39:14.960 I know. I'm convinced. I always say there's people, it saves the country. People get mad,
00:39:18.880 you know, they'll say, I always keep my AirPods in when I walk through New York City because I
00:39:22.200 know people are saying stuff to me. But so I pretend not to be able to hear, but they'll say,
00:39:27.040 you know, you're ruining the country. You got Fox lies. I'm like, wow. Okay. But most people say,
00:39:33.220 thank you. Most people say, thank you. Because what we do, we get up every day and we don't
00:39:39.140 hate the country we don't think we we don't think we have to apologize for anything and i can't
00:39:45.060 imagine the i can't imagine what the landscape was because it was the emergence of cable news at the
00:39:50.440 same time as us because people say well you have the nightly news yeah you have the nightly news
00:39:54.660 you had six and you had 11 you weren't doing during the day nobody was watching cnn because
00:39:59.740 up until the persian gulf war they averaged almost a 0.0 i'll never forget this because i was coming
00:40:05.720 out of college trying to figure out where the openings were. 0.0 until the Persian Gulf War
00:40:10.780 happened. Then they said, maybe this is a place for a news network. And then when they launched
00:40:14.460 the news network, cable was everywhere in this country. So everything came together. So people
00:40:20.200 said, what was it like before? Well, you only had 22 minutes to poison my mind, right? You only had
00:40:26.560 six and 11. I'm waiting for the sports anyway at the time. So now 24 hours a day pounding
00:40:32.860 uh pounding against the country pounding against now trump soon to be somebody else i really very
00:40:39.000 feel very fortunate to be here so it's also there's also an atmosphere here gad i don't know
00:40:43.940 if you picked up on it there's like a teamwork attitude i've seen all these evolutions people
00:40:48.500 getting fired let go new management all this stuff but there's a real teamwork attitude because
00:40:53.280 people are so committed to the cause of telling the story of this country who are not way to the
00:40:59.740 left without apologizing for slavery every day on a personal level i'm so thankful for fox because
00:41:06.020 you know whether it be your show or jesse or or or uh uh gruttfeld or other people that have been
00:41:14.120 on fox and friends morning and i would have never had the reach that i would that i've ended up
00:41:19.680 having had it not been uh for fox so i'm infinitely thankful yeah we got to get you on more thank you
00:41:24.640 sir that would be wonderful last question and then i'll put up the book again for people to rush and
00:41:29.180 buy it. If I'm a young guy, I'm 21, 22, and I'm looking at Brian Kilmeade and I say, what is the
00:41:35.800 trajectory by which I become the next Brian Kilmeade? Are there, is there a secret sauce
00:41:40.820 that you can share that can help that young man or woman be the next Brian Kilmeade? I would say
00:41:46.520 number one, I would just like to know what they want. Like I didn't do this to be famous.
00:41:53.560 I didn't do this to be well known.
00:41:55.660 I just wanted to be able to be in the hub of the most exciting, of the news.
00:41:59.960 I just, I used to collect headlines when I was younger, just because I didn't want to
00:42:03.700 forget news stories.
00:42:04.820 And I wanted people to look back and go, remember when the Yankees were down 14 games and they
00:42:08.520 came back and beat the Red Sox and the next, so I wanted to be the first test tube baby.
00:42:13.640 I still remember cutting the headlines when the space shuttle blew up.
00:42:17.760 So I was always fascinated with the news.
00:42:19.220 i didn't want to be a famous anchor but i wanted to be an anchor because i wanted to interview the
00:42:23.700 most important people making the biggest decisions so i think if you get in our business trying to be
00:42:27.980 famous you'll find yourself always frustrated because you know you'll say something provocative
00:42:33.400 everyone will retweet you i think if you go if you want to do if what your objective is to be
00:42:39.260 famous i would do the actor thing probably if your objective is to be famous you know i would uh i
00:42:45.140 would just go a different you know be a more personality on the radio try to be the how next
00:42:51.180 Howard Stern he's trying to be famous what I what I think if you want to go and be a part of the
00:42:56.540 story learn how to tell a story learn how to do it quickly in any type of format build up your
00:43:01.960 contacts so the people making the biggest decisions know who you are and will take your call and maybe
00:43:06.520 submit to the interview and the good news is about today I had to wait for the call and kind of
00:43:12.220 practice on my own, but without, you know, you'd have to get a video VHS and you had to get a
00:43:15.660 camera. Now everyone, everyone's got a phone, right? Everyone's got a phone. Every day you
00:43:21.960 could be doing a newscast. You could set up a teleprompter and do it right into your iPad.
00:43:25.780 So you could be getting better every day. You could set up a podcast, not have one as big as
00:43:29.840 yours, but you could have 75 followers. You'd be surprised how many people you're going to get on
00:43:34.120 there. And next thing you know, you build your contacts. You make your questions better. You
00:43:39.360 get your feedback and you begin to grow and then these companies will say i want to see that i want
00:43:44.540 that woman i want that guy so i think that if you want to tell stories and be a part of the the news
00:43:50.820 that matters most to you to your town or your country i think you should start doing it right
00:43:55.500 away and then also look for the organization that best replicates what you want to do
00:44:00.120 and try to get in there in a sense nick shirley has done that he came out of nowhere and now he
00:44:07.940 He gets an audience with the president of the United States.
00:44:10.640 All right.
00:44:11.180 Let's put this beauty up again.
00:44:13.400 People go out and go, Brian, it is impossible to be satiated of you.
00:44:17.880 Come back anytime you'd like.
00:44:19.480 I look forward to seeing you hopefully soon in person in New York.
00:44:22.400 Absolutely, again.
00:44:23.040 If anybody wants to order it and wants me to personalize it, just go to BrianKilme.com.
00:44:26.840 And this weekend, as in the 7th and 8th, I'm going to be on stage in Clearwater talking about all my books and on stage on the 8th and Jacksonville.
00:44:37.940 so hopefully to see everybody in person
00:44:40.080 bryankilme.com
00:44:41.180 thanks Kat, I appreciate it
00:44:42.520 thank you so much, be well, cheers
00:44:44.020 All right.
00:44:44.580 Take care.
00:44:45.000 Bye.