The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - September 05, 2025


Destruction of Freedom of Speech and Death by Suicidal Empathy (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_870)

Topics
Free Speech crisis suicidal empath suicidal empathy
Hosted by
Gad Saad
Mentioned
Graham Lynham Suicidal Empathy Melania Trump Donald Trump Bill Gates Sam Altman Tim Cook Zuckerberg Aristotle Gadsad Rick
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Episode Stats


Length

5 minutes

Words per minute

179.01

Word count

1,032

Sentence count

83

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

sentences flagged

Hate speech

1

sentences flagged


Summary

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Bill Gates, Tim Cook, and Elon Musk attend a tech dinner with the President at the White House. Meanwhile, in the UK, a transphobic comedian is arrested for a tweet mocking trans people. Guest host Dr. Gad Saad joins us to talk about the crisis of free speech in Europe.

Transcript

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00:00:00.840 Welcome back. Happening right now, the president hosting a big tech dinner at the White House.
00:00:05.480 You can see Bill Gates speaking right next to Melania Trump.
00:00:08.720 Tim Cook is there. Zuckerberg's there. Sam Altman.
00:00:12.780 Elon was invited. Didn't show. Not exactly sure why, but it's a big dinner happening at the White House tonight.
00:00:18.520 They've been having an event all day long with the tech giants.
00:00:21.140 We'll keep you posted if anything interesting happens.
00:00:23.760 Meantime, a glimpse into our Orwellian dystopian future coming from the U.K.
00:00:28.120 Today, Irish comedian Graham Lynham arrested upon arrival at Heathrow Airport for a tweet mocking trans people.
00:00:37.600 They sent five armed cops to pick him up at the airport as he landed for a tweet mocking trans people.
00:00:43.760 It's so bad, even the far left Atlantic magazine now calling it out.
00:00:47.060 The arrest that demonstrates Europe's free speech problem, adding open debate is often obnoxious, upsetting or rude.
00:00:52.620 None of these adjectives should make it a police matter.
00:00:55.760 But in the U.K., it now is.
00:00:57.140 They're arresting people left and right for things that they post on the Internet or things that they say.
00:01:02.060 When Lynham showed up to court, that comedian, he was draped in a trans flag sign that read,
00:01:06.460 there's no such thing as a transgender child.
00:01:08.540 On the other side, it said, keep men out of women's sports. 0.99
00:01:11.640 He is a fighter all the way to the end, and he's the one that's right.
00:01:16.140 Here in the U.S., Democrats cannot wait to arrest you for hate speech.
00:01:22.040 Take a listen to this from yesterday.
00:01:23.460 Republicans are vilifying European liberal democracies simply for engaging in the kind of line drawing exercises that we Americans engage in under our First Amendment.
00:01:34.840 There is a free speech crisis in America today, but there's no free speech crisis in Britain.
00:01:39.280 The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't come from the government, but come from the creator, that's what the Iranian government believes.
00:01:48.780 The statement that our rights do not come from our laws or our governments is extremely troubling.
00:01:55.480 You should be terrified of both of those people.
00:01:59.060 Dr. Gad Saad is a visiting scholar at Ole Miss' Declaration of Independence Center and the author of the forthcoming book, Suicidal Empathy, which is a great title for a book.
00:02:08.060 And he joins us now.
00:02:08.960 And, Dr., good to have you on.
00:02:10.260 So our rights come from the government, and there is no issue of free speech in Britain.
00:02:15.480 That's what we just heard from two of the bigger politicians in this country.
00:02:19.160 Yeah, it's unbelievable.
00:02:21.400 Look, the best way to understand the schism that we're seeing these days regarding freedom of speech is something that comes from ethics.
00:02:29.640 There's something called deontological ethics versus consequentialist ethics.
00:02:33.940 Deontological ethics are absolute truths.
00:02:36.900 So, for example, if I say it is never okay to lie, that would be a deontological statement.
00:02:42.440 If I say it's okay to lie to spare someone's feelings, that would be a consequentialist statement.
00:02:47.460 For most things, it's perfectly reasonable to be a consequentialist.
00:02:51.780 But when it comes to foundational values that have made the West great, those things have to be deontological.
00:02:58.420 Freedom of speech is deontological, meaning you can't say, yes, I believe in freedom of speech, but not if it hurts someone's feelings.
00:03:06.420 Yes, I believe in freedom of speech, but not for Donald Trump because he's too nasty.
00:03:10.680 Yes, I believe in freedom of speech, but not if it criticizes a certain religion.
00:03:14.700 You either believe in freedom of speech or you don't.
00:03:16.880 I'm Jewish.
00:03:17.620 I come from a very rough childhood in the Middle East, and yet I support the right of Holocaust deniers denying the most grotesque historical reality.
00:03:29.040 That's the price that I have to pay to live in a free society.
00:03:32.740 To live in a free society.
00:03:33.840 There was a British woman that was arrested last week for flying the British flag during a migrant hotel protest.
00:03:41.320 In England, flying the British flag.
00:03:44.760 You can see how enraged she is in that picture, and rightly so. 1.00
00:03:47.920 You talk a lot about the suicidal empath, the suicidal empathy, the suicidal empath.
00:03:53.480 And I mean, I think that's such a great phrase is people that have such a feeling of sorrow for the rest of the world and commiserate so hard that they want to destroy their own life, their own quality of life as a way of projecting, I think, their virtue.
00:04:05.640 And these are the people that are bringing in millions of Middle Eastern migrants into Europe and the UK and destroying their countries. 1.00
00:04:13.380 And the rest of them are fighting back against it.
00:04:16.140 And now they're saying, oh, you're going to fight back against us?
00:04:17.940 We're just going to throw you in prison.
00:04:19.020 Exactly right.
00:04:20.480 Look, empathy, a lot of articles have already been written about my forthcoming book that are completely bogus.
00:04:27.020 I'm not arguing that empathy is not a noble virtue.
00:04:31.240 We are a social species.
00:04:32.880 It makes perfect sense for us to be empathetic.
00:04:35.400 For me to have a meaningful dialogue with you, Rob, I need to put myself in your brain to know what you're thinking.
00:04:41.040 So it is totally fine to have theory of mind and empathy.
00:04:44.000 But like Aristotle explained to us several thousand years ago, all good things at the right amount, at the right place, to the right targets.
00:04:52.740 So arguing that MS-13 gang members deserve more empathy than American vets is suicidal empathy.
00:04:59.920 Arguing that all immigrants are just as likely to assimilate within the American experience is suicidal empathy.
00:05:07.300 Giving felons a 137th second chance is suicidal empathy.
00:05:13.060 So in the book, I demonstrate that all of the domestic and foreign problems that we're seeing stem from this misguided, misdirected empathy.
00:05:23.720 So, so well put.
00:05:25.160 You don't write bad books.
00:05:26.480 I can tell you that.
00:05:27.400 Thank you so much, Dr. Gadsad.
00:05:29.000 We appreciate you coming on.
00:05:30.420 Thank you, sir.
00:05:31.000 Cheers.
00:05:32.380 How radical is CBS News?
00:05:34.700 Well, its staffers are reportedly apoplectic as the new boss eyes a moderate Democrat to take over editorial control.
00:05:44.580 That's next with Rick and In.