The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - Discussing Suicidal Empathy on The Chicks on the Right Podcast (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_998)

00:00:00.500 Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast. Very excited today we have Gad Saad with us, a professor, evolutionary behavioral scientist, five-time author, and host of The Saad Truth.

00:00:13.260 He is a scholar at the Declaration of Independence Center for the Study of American Freedom at the University of Mississippi.

00:00:19.400 He has a new book out called Suicidal Empathy, Dying to be Kind, which is a fantastic read, and we're going to dive into that in just a minute.

00:00:28.500 But one of the things that I wanted to make sure that our audience who may be new to you, I want to make sure that they know is that you are the preeminent king of satire, sarcasm, sardonic wit, which I happened to learn the hard way about six years ago when I didn't pick up on that in a tweet that you posted.

00:00:51.840 and I got properly mocked to high heaven by your followers as a result. And you actually said in

00:01:01.300 response to me, quote, I'll never forget this. Like I had to go and look this back up because

00:01:05.740 I was like, oh, I got to tell him about this. You said, and I quote, this is the humor that

00:01:09.880 I love so much. Learn to detect sarcasm that a newborn pigeon would identify upon its hatching.

00:01:17.800 that sounds like me i love it it's so great she's like i instantly love you yeah oh my god i felt

00:01:25.940 this small but i ended up writing you back and mentioning titania mcgrath because i loved

00:01:31.780 titania mcgrath at the at the time because i felt like titania set the bar for satire

00:01:36.360 and you said titania was in diapers when i was revolutionizing the use of satire and sarcasm

00:01:44.380 And I was like, this is he is our people. He's our people. Totally.

00:01:49.200 And thank you. First, thank you for the lovely introduction. But let me just say, I've often been saying recently that suicidal empathy is fueled by progressive white women.

00:02:01.720 Thank you for proving that incorrect. 0.61

00:02:05.440 All white women are are bathing in suicidal empathy. 1.00

00:02:10.400 Oh, no. Nor are we progressive. We're not progressive at all. 0.98

00:02:13.820 No, no, we're the antithesis. We have been for almost two decades. So, yeah, we understand the mocking, but in another way where people look at us and they're like, you're not supposed to be a conservative. You're supposed to be progressive. And it's like, yeah, we think for ourselves. But thank you very much. Yes.

00:02:30.740 Well, we want to dive right in to the new book, which comes out in a week, I think.

00:02:36.120 Yeah. So a week tomorrow.

00:02:39.260 OK, fantastic. So one of the things that you've always been outspoken about, not just in the book and that and we have talked about it a lot as well on our show is the threat of Islam to the West. 1.00

00:02:51.900 And this is so interesting because it just came up in my family for the oddest reason. My mom had sent me an article or not an article, but she sent me an email just yesterday saying, hey, I read this article or an interview in the Wall Street Journal with a Muslim think tank leader.

00:03:10.320 I don't even remember what his name was. And she was so impressed by how reasonable and like non-Mom Donnie he sounded. And her takeaway was that we should always judge people as individuals. And my immediate thought was to say, we got to ask Gadsad how he would respond to my mom.

00:03:29.980 Yes, okay. So look, individuals have individual differences. Some of us are tall, short, hardworking, not hardworking, kind, not kind. So in any grouping, there are nice Jews and mean Jews, nice atheists, mean atheists.

00:03:46.540 So Muslims, to the extent that they have individual personhoods, can come in all possible shades.

00:03:56.360 That doesn't mean, though, that there is a discussion to be had as to whether Islam's fundamental tenets are congruent or incongruent with Western values in general, and certainly American freedoms and liberties in particular.

00:04:10.920 And to that latter point, nothing could be clearer.

00:04:15.340 In other words, you couldn't have come up with a set of principles as codified in Islam that were more incongruent with Western liberties. 0.86

00:04:25.340 So I'll just give you one example, but we could deep dive as far as you'd like to go. 0.92

00:04:30.560 So in American jurisprudence, the reason why Lady Liberty is blindfolded is because she's supposed to be blind to, for example, the identities of the perpetrators and the victims of a crime. 0.99

00:04:45.440 Sharia law, which is Islamic law,

00:04:49.660 literally states the exact opposite. 0.62

00:04:52.520 It lists for you, if a Jewish man kills a Muslim man, 0.99

00:04:59.160 this is what the penalty should be. 1.00

00:05:01.260 If a Muslim man kills a Jewish man, 0.98

00:05:04.400 it's a different penalty because the dynamics have changed. 0.96

00:05:07.920 So just that singular point,

00:05:11.120 You couldn't have a greater antithesis of American jurisprudence

00:05:16.460 So individual Muslims could be as lovely and kind 1.00

00:05:20.620 Or the opposite as any other groupings 1.00

00:05:23.920 Islam, not so much 0.98

00:05:25.960 Yeah

00:05:26.640 Do you think that the rise of anti-Semitism in schools and whatnot have been

00:05:30.920 I mean, I'm sure there are different reasons

00:05:33.440 I think social media has a lot to do with it

00:05:35.800 I think just our educational system in general does

00:05:38.600 What do you attribute it to?

00:05:40.020 Well, it's regrettably, it's a cocktail. It's a confluence of many factors, but certainly the fact that in the West, we've seen an orgiastic opening of open borders, that you have people that are coming into the host nations with values that are endemically Jew-hating values. 0.89

00:06:03.960 So, for example, and there's tons and tons of data of this, and I discussed this in several of my writings, including in, for example, The Parasitic Mind, one of my earlier books. 0.86

00:06:13.640 If you look, for example, at Pew surveys, so Pew, P-E-W, which is nonpartisan, arguably a bit more to the left.

00:06:21.860 So it's not as though it's, you know, right wing agenda.

00:06:25.520 and if you ask people stemming from a broad range of Islamic countries

00:06:31.700 that actually vary, you know, it could be Indonesia

00:06:34.980 or it could be the Middle East or it could be Africa.

00:06:37.620 So the races are different, but they share one thing.

00:06:40.340 They're all Islamic countries.

00:06:41.820 And you ask people surveyed from those societies,

00:06:45.200 how do you, what do you think of Jews?

00:06:48.280 Now, if you were to get that 10% of the surveyed people

00:06:52.480 were avowed Jew haters, that would be a big number.

00:06:55.520 10%, one in 10.

00:06:57.980 Do you want to guess what the actual numbers are?

00:07:00.320 95%.

00:07:01.540 Oh my.

00:07:02.540 You're saying 99%.

00:07:04.240 So now does it take fancy Professor Gadsad

00:07:08.100 to connect the dots for us

00:07:10.740 that if you let in millions of people

00:07:13.520 of which 95% plus have endemic Jew hatred

00:07:19.260 as a fabric of their personhood,

00:07:22.440 are you going to have an increase of Jew hatred

00:07:25.320 in the whole society or a decrease let me scratch my head i know i got that one yeah and they don't

00:07:30.660 just hate jews they hate america they do that's and it's i just well and it's so interesting

00:07:36.360 because we we talked to dr zudi jasser years ago when we had a radio show and one of the things i 0.76

00:07:41.820 asked him which i don't think he ever answered for me satisfactorily i i guess but maybe you know

00:07:48.700 maybe you you will. And that is because just like my mom, you know, her natural instinct is to just

00:07:55.320 think, oh, well, this person see over here, he's perfectly fine. So that must mean it's OK.

00:08:00.160 One of the things that we asked Dr. Zutty Jasser was, is it possible that you as a Muslim, 1.00

00:08:05.460 when we were talking to him, are simply doing your religion wrong because you're not actually

00:08:11.300 following it through to its logical conclusion based on its own tenets? Do you think that that's

00:08:16.860 true that moderate Muslims just simply aren't practicing their faith correctly that is 100% 0.98

00:08:22.740 correct uh uh Zudi Jasser is a nice person despite adhering to supposedly Islam right 1.00

00:08:32.380 so this is what I call cafeteria Muslims right there's a buffet yes and choose the part just

00:08:39.400 like for example i'm i'm jewish i do eat shrimp i do eat on occasions don't tell the rabbi pork 0.52

00:08:48.760 not because i practice a gentle form of judaism there is only one judaism i choose to ignore the

00:08:58.520 parts that don't adhere to my culinary preferences there is no gentle judaism mean judaism kosher

00:09:06.460 Judaism, non-kosher Judaism. There's just Judaism. By the exact same reasoning, there is no Islamism.

00:09:14.700 There is no radical Islamism. There is no militant jihadi Islamism. You could put all the qualifiers

00:09:22.800 before the term Islam, and you could add as many isms after Islam. This is why you may have seen

00:09:28.720 me when I say, is he practicing self-radicalized Islamismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismism 0.67

00:09:58.720 There has been a very long litany of people who've tried that Reformation project.

00:10:04.660 And do you want to guess what is the percentage of those people that have failed in that project?

00:10:10.280 A hundred.

00:10:10.700 I'm guessing a hundred percent.

00:10:11.920 A hundred percent. 0.99

00:10:12.680 And the reason for that is because Islam's doctrines do not permit for the light of Reformation to go in. 0.99

00:10:21.560 It is the final inerrant word of God. 0.83

00:10:24.520 And the most fundamental word of Allah in Islam is that the world will be unified under 0.55

00:10:32.520 a peaceful umbrella when the entire world is under the flag of Islam. 0.95

00:10:39.260 So it is a fundamentally, deeply proselytizing religion. 1.00

00:10:45.500 That's why they are nearly, you know, one quarter of humanity is currently Islamic. 1.00

00:10:50.920 That's why Judaism sucks as a marketing project, because it only has 15 million adherents. 1.00

00:10:58.860 Why? 1.00

00:10:59.520 Because it has actually the opposite of the proselytizing ethos.

00:11:04.980 You're not allowed to proselytize.

00:11:07.420 If you ladies were to say, I'd really want to become Jewish, literally within the doctrines 0.95

00:11:13.800 is to make it as hard for you as possible to become Jewish, because that would be the 0.85

00:11:19.440 ultimate test of your spiritual piety. If I set the bar very high and you still go over it, 0.98

00:11:26.000 then welcome into the tribe. So therefore, one religion sucks at getting new customers. It's 1.00

00:11:31.720 called Judaism. The other one is profoundly successful at getting adherence. In 1400 years, 0.97

00:11:38.540 it has managed to convert one fourth of humanity. And growing, absolutely growing too. 0.96

00:11:45.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:46.420 Should we shift gears to taxation?

00:11:48.580 Well, yeah, I do want you to ask him about the tax stuff.

00:11:51.240 Okay, because, yeah, because we, I am a taxationist theft kind of girl.

00:11:56.580 Miriam is too.

00:11:57.800 And we talk about that a lot on our show.

00:11:59.740 And you wrote about how the Canadian government kind of did a number on you when it comes to taxes.

00:12:06.040 And we'd love to hear that story.

00:12:08.060 Sure.

00:12:08.640 And do you remember what the title of that chapter is?

00:12:12.300 I don't.

00:12:13.360 I have it right here.

00:12:14.460 I don't remember the title.

00:12:16.000 Govern me harder, daddy.

00:12:17.940 Yes.

00:12:19.340 That's right.

00:12:20.320 That's right.

00:12:20.940 Yes.

00:12:22.160 Yes.

00:12:23.540 I remember the date.

00:12:25.020 I remember May 22nd of 2022 being the date.

00:12:28.320 I don't know why that sticks out, but I remember that being the date.

00:12:31.020 I think it may be May 4th, 2022, which actually happens to be today, four years ago.

00:12:35.220 So basically what, so in Canada, for many of your viewers and listeners who are American, if you think that wherever, whichever state you are in the U.S., you're being, you know, taxed to oblivion, it is child's play.

00:12:51.360 It's the junior varsity team compared to what it is in Canada in general, and then Quebec more so.

00:12:57.820 So in the way that you guys have states, you know, 50 states in the United States, we have provinces.

00:13:04.740 So we have 10 provinces. And so each province, while all provinces have heavy taxation, some are more socialist than others. Quebec happens to be probably the most socialist of all of the provinces.

00:13:21.000 So we have a, of course, double taxation system so that the federal government, at least from the data from a few years ago when I told that anecdote in the book, the federal government was at the maximum progressive tax is at 33%.

00:13:38.000 And the maximum Quebec tax, which is the provincial tax, is 25.75%.

00:13:44.960 So now we're at, as you start making more money,

00:13:48.180 you're at 58% combined taxes.

00:13:52.180 But hold on, this is not even close to the final number.

00:13:55.540 So now, so let's suppose you've stolen

00:13:59.300 nearly 60% of my earnings from me.

00:14:02.960 Now you've left me,

00:14:04.460 you've allowed me to keep 40% of my earning.

00:14:07.580 Now, when I go out and spend money for anything,

00:14:12.220 I'm taxed 15%.

00:14:14.980 I'm taxed at the provincial level

00:14:19.440 and I'm taxed at the federal.

00:14:21.340 There's both a provincial sales tax

00:14:23.660 and a federal sales tax.

00:14:25.860 So now it's 15% of the 40%

00:14:29.180 that you've allowed me to keep,

00:14:30.760 but it doesn't end there.

00:14:32.120 Then there is property tax,

00:14:33.960 there is school tax,

00:14:35.140 there's carbon tax,

00:14:36.380 there's fuel tax.

00:14:38.040 So once you put it all together,

00:14:40.120 you'd be very lucky

00:14:42.020 if you're left with about 30% of your income.

00:14:46.920 It's obscene.

00:14:48.260 Now let's keep going.

00:14:49.480 Now for some people might say,

00:14:50.560 okay, well, give me another way to frame those numbers.

00:14:53.920 This means, so if you were a full slave

00:14:57.160 and slave in the true sense of the word slave,

00:15:00.440 from January 1st to December 31st,

00:15:04.520 all of your labor, you don't own it 0.99

00:15:07.380 because I own you as your slave owner. 0.92

00:15:10.120 Oh, my God.

00:15:11.240 Now, in Canada, I am 100% a slave till about September, meaning that from January 1st till about early September, nothing that I earn is money.

00:15:28.220 Nothing. Zero.

00:15:29.640 Insane. It is.

00:15:31.160 In September, I start being allowed to keep my money.

00:15:34.960 Now, why did I tell that story?

00:15:36.800 because there is an additional issue.

00:15:39.940 And it probably was not the good question to ask me

00:15:43.120 because if there's anything that irritates me

00:15:45.180 more than anything, it's the taxes.

00:15:47.480 It's the same with her. 0.96

00:15:48.920 That's the same with her.

00:15:50.020 My number one issue is taxes.

00:15:51.800 It is the greatest collective crime

00:15:56.780 short of killing a human being

00:15:58.740 that has ever been initiated on a populace.

00:16:05.380 So now let me just wrap up with this. If you were, of course, anybody doesn't want to be taxed, but we know, for example, that your income is taxed differently than your dividend tax if you take out from your company.

00:16:21.460 So the government does recognize that different sources of income can result in different taxation rates.

00:16:28.940 And let me explain why I'm saying this.

00:16:31.440 If I buy something for $3 and I sell it for $6, and therefore you tax me on the profit I've made,

00:16:38.600 that's very different than when you're taxing my mind, as is the case when you're an author.

00:16:45.220 So, for example, Ireland recognizes that cultural richness as instantiated via an author's creation or an artist's creation are tax-free because that becomes part of the patrimony of the society, right?

00:17:06.120 Therefore, they recognize that.

00:17:08.560 And that's why, by the way, a lot of artists will move their estate to Ireland and so on.

00:17:12.580 Now, imagine that the Quebec and Canadian government said, OK, your book royalties of the parasitic mind, even though 99 percent of all book royalties that you've amassed did not happen in Quebec or Canada, we own 58 percent of it.

00:17:33.520 So your mind, so my mind, my history in Lebanon, my humor, my theories, my ideas are predominantly owned by my government.

00:17:46.020 I own 42 percent of the integrity of my mind.

00:17:50.620 Oh, my goodness.

00:17:51.480 It's crazy.

00:17:52.060 It's absolutely crazy.

00:17:53.480 It is.

00:17:54.040 Oh, my gosh.

00:17:55.360 Gad, one of the things that you talked about also in your book is Kamala Harris and how she had this focus on equity versus equality.

00:18:02.940 And that reminded us of something that we talked about in our own book that we wrote in 2014.

00:18:08.060 We call it the Harrison Bergeronification of the culture, essentially.

00:18:16.000 Why is that idea, equity, so antithetical to the American dream?

00:18:23.780 Right. Great question.

00:18:24.920 And by the way, it is rooted both parasitic taxation, which we just talked about, and Islamic open door immigration policy and the ethos of equity are all rooted in suicidal empathy. 0.71

00:18:38.020 Because what's the idea there?

00:18:40.360 Some people, I mean, as she literally says, I mean, I have a whole bunch of quotes from her.

00:18:45.580 I mean, literal verbatim quotes in the book.

00:18:48.320 She says, look, some people end up being richer than others.

00:18:53.420 That is inherently unfair. It's non-empathetic that Elon Musk, in the time that we've started

00:19:03.580 this conversation, Elon Musk's net worth is more than all the money that I have ever made

00:19:12.760 in 32 years as a professor. That just feels mean. That feels non-empathetic.

00:19:19.380 So given that Elon is a personal friend of mine, I'm going to immediately write to him after and say, this is unfair that you're making so much more money. 0.74

00:19:28.120 And so let me put a metaphorical gun to your head and please share that money.

00:19:33.640 That's the ethos of equity, right?

00:19:36.640 Equity basically says, by the way, it often argues that it's because different people start off at different starting points because of nefarious reasons.

00:19:50.300 But actually, the ethos of equity is a lot more sinister than that, because it even says if you were born with inherently different intellectual endowments.

00:20:05.660 So some of us are born more intelligent than others, right?

00:20:10.500 Just that.

00:20:11.280 So it's not that you were born into a white supremacist society and you're a person of color.

00:20:16.700 Just the fact that you and I might have been born with different innate proclivities, therefore rendering, if you're smarter than me, more likely to succeed than me, that's inherently unfair.

00:20:29.620 because in a fair world,

00:20:32.300 we'd all be born with absolute equal potentiality.

00:20:36.560 That's why, by the way, social constructivism,

00:20:39.920 which argues that we are born with equal potentiality

00:20:43.040 and it's only social construction

00:20:44.960 that then creates individual differences,

00:20:48.040 is one of the granddaddy parasitic ideas

00:20:51.240 that I discuss in The Parasitic Mind

00:20:53.360 because it's a very hopeful message.

00:20:55.800 If we all are born with equal potentiality,

00:20:58.940 Then if only I can find the perfect schedule of reinforcements, of punishments and rewards, if I hug my child enough or I don't hug him enough, maybe he too can be the next Michael Jordan, Lionel Messi or Albert Einstein. 0.61

00:21:13.260 It's a beautifully hopeful message rooted in pure bullshit, but it makes me feel good as a parent, right? 0.75

00:21:21.460 I just have to find how to hug my child and boom, he's the next Michael Jordan. 0.97

00:21:26.720 Now, the fact that I'm Jewish and therefore I'm not six foot six probably has nothing to do with the fact that my son is less likely to become an NBA star.

00:21:37.700 I just have to find how many Big Macs to feed him and he'll be.

00:21:41.360 That's Michael Jordan.

00:21:42.940 I love this so much.

00:21:44.640 Oh, my gosh.

00:21:45.840 All right.

00:21:47.360 So, Mark Cuban, I heard you guys are BFFs.

00:21:51.100 And no, I'm just kidding.

00:21:52.660 He unfollowed you on X.

00:21:54.000 I want to know the dirt on why this happened.

00:21:56.720 So, Mark and I had, you know, I mean, we weren't famous friends, but he followed me on X.

00:22:04.660 I followed him back.

00:22:05.940 We communicated several times privately.

00:22:08.400 I invited him on my show and I said, oh, you know, just to kind of give him, make him feel at ease that, you know, I said, you know, well, you know, Elon and I had a X spaces that was well received.

00:22:20.500 He goes, well, I really don't, I'm paraphrasing his words, but he basically said, you know, there is nothing that I could learn in a conversation with you or Elon.

00:22:32.220 Wow, those are some pretty.

00:22:33.920 Oh, my gosh.

00:22:35.820 There's nothing that you could learn from either, because I know your shtick.

00:22:41.640 I know what you're both going to say.

00:22:43.460 Okay, that's fine.

00:22:45.020 But then he was doing the whole Rara thing with Kamala Harris and the whole diversity, inclusion, equity. And so I had written, I mean, publicly, that was a public tweet. You know, I see that you're the owner of the Mavs. I'm looking, I'm seeing no Lebanese Jewish point guards.

00:23:04.840 I think there's, if I don't see a representation of me in the NBA, you know, courts, then how can I or my son ever a spy, you know, whatever, my usual satire.

00:23:18.760 And, you know, he then got very upset and eventually unfollowed me.

00:23:23.100 Unbelievable.

00:23:24.240 Well, to me, and now, of course, then he goes back and he, you know, deletes a lot of his tweets supporting Kamala.

00:23:31.620 I've never deleted anything.

00:23:32.840 anything. Even when I'm wrong, I keep that tweet because I want there to be a forensic record of

00:23:40.840 if I've ever said something wrong. So the people who used to have their pronouns in their bio,

00:23:47.700 but now took it out, are you then not suggesting that it was all performative nonsense? Because

00:23:54.000 if you absolutely believe that you must, like, for example, look at me, I am the model of,

00:23:59.900 i'm the epitome of masculinity so you would think that it should be easy to guess what my sex is

00:24:06.320 but apparently we learned from malcolm gladwell the very uh beautiful best-selling author that

00:24:12.540 that's completely false that that you know the 117 billion people that had existed on earth

00:24:19.160 that's an actual true number that's the estimate 117 billion homo sapiens that have existed until

00:24:25.400 about 15 minutes ago seem to be able to navigate the very difficult conundrum of identifying with

00:24:33.480 whom they should mate. But Malcolm Gladwell and Mark Cuban and the rest of their friends

00:24:38.280 told us recently that progressive science says that you absolutely can't tell just by looking

00:24:43.760 at someone what their sex is. So now, though, the winds are changing. So they go back quietly and

00:24:50.060 remove the pronouns, they're bullshitters. Yes. They're phonies. Absolute phonies. So right. So 0.99

00:24:57.820 one of the things, too, that we talked about in our own book is the left's use of language and

00:25:02.860 the way that they manipulate and rename things to sort of soften how terrible the things are

00:25:08.500 that they believe in, like the way that they call abortion reproductive health care or bodily

00:25:14.360 autonomy. Yeah. Or they call taxes, you know, revenue. This is how they this is how they

00:25:20.880 spin everything. And I really think, Gad, that you have another like revenue stream possibility

00:25:26.840 if you just write a book that is nothing but your versions of words, because some of the ones that

00:25:34.300 you have in your book, the way that you called rapists undocumented lovemakers or altruistic

00:25:43.540 sperm donors you need to write an entire book of just those because i swear to god it'd be a

00:25:50.040 bestseller it's a coffee table book you're very kind and let me let me tell you part of the

00:25:55.440 the the cognitive i mean look some people are inherently funny to our earlier points some are

00:26:01.680 tall some are short some are funny some are not uh i could tell you stories of when i was eight

00:26:06.820 years old and i'm standing there with adults and they're all cracking up at the stuff i'm saying

00:26:12.360 So this is like, I didn't go to a seminar to learn how to be funny, but let me give you the sort of the cognitive mechanism that I use to generate that, that humor. And this is why I often write, let's say I see some reality come out and then I will reshare and say my prophetic satire strikes again, because I had exactly predicted this and here's how I do it.

00:26:36.840 So you have to have the power of extrapolation, right?

00:26:41.380 So if you see somebody holding a position at this place here, then you say, what is the natural consequences if I can push that kind of mindset to its quote logical extreme boundary condition?

00:26:57.960 So then I satire that boundary position and then I fold my arms and wait for reality to catch up.

00:27:06.840 that's that's literally what i do right brilliant right and so for example this is actually not

00:27:14.880 this is a real thing and which i cite in the book it's not fair to marginalize the noble community

00:27:22.960 of pedophiles isn't it nicer to to use the word minor attracted person oh my gosh by the way

00:27:32.920 is a thing. The references that I used to actually demonstrate that this wasn't my satire

00:27:40.120 are academic papers. But now let me give you the background to how this whole thing started,

00:27:48.380 what I call linguistic empathy. It comes from the granddaddy of parasitic ideas,

00:27:54.520 which I discussed in The Parasitic Mind, which is postmodernism. Postmodernism purports that there

00:28:01.080 are no objective truths other than the one objective truth that there are no objective

00:28:06.280 truths, okay? So it already falters in terms of internal coherence. An offshoot of postmodernism

00:28:15.640 is what's called deconstructionism. And the guy who espoused that movement is a French 1.00

00:28:22.220 postmodernist by the name of Jacques Derrida. And so Derrida basically argued that language

00:28:29.420 creates reality. There is nothing outside of the things that we label that thing. So there isn't

00:28:38.200 some objective truth. So it is that reflex that then allows the Democrats who are the party of

00:28:46.520 empathy to then empathetically rename all things. So undocumented lovemaker is rapist. By the way, 1.00

00:28:54.360 Here are ours, this is not mine.

00:28:57.600 Homeless becomes unhoused.

00:29:01.560 It's more gentle, it's more empathetic.

00:29:06.040 A felon is a justice implicated individual.

00:29:16.020 Because again, by being kinder and more empathetic

00:29:20.180 in our use of language,

00:29:22.540 We don't further marginalize those noble communities.

00:29:27.360 And so put it all together

00:29:29.760 into the stew of suicidal empathy.

00:29:31.880 What you end up with is a lack of critical thinking 0.84

00:29:35.880 because what the parasitic mind did is it said 0.93

00:29:39.040 that for me to hijack your capacity to think, 0.99

00:29:42.620 I have to hijack your cognitive system,

00:29:45.360 your thinking system.

00:29:46.800 What suicidal empathy does is it completes the story.

00:29:49.940 It says that we are both a thinking and feeling creature.

00:29:54.000 If I truly want to zombify you, I have to hijack your cognitive and your affective system.

00:30:00.320 If I can do both of these, I've got you.

00:30:03.560 And that's exactly what those two books do.

00:30:06.160 So I know we've only got five minutes left with you.

00:30:09.120 And I had this need after reading the book and I was getting to the end.

00:30:14.960 I was like, OK, I you've given a zillion examples of how toxic this whole idea of suicidal empathy is.

00:30:21.700 And I mean, there are a billion examples and we know how insidious it is.

00:30:27.260 And you outlined some action steps at the end about how you can avoid sort of getting pulled into that trap.

00:30:33.460 But just overall, what is your sense of optimism or pessimism, I guess, about whether that is going to happen?

00:30:42.720 Because people like us, we get it.

00:30:44.460 Like we, we know, we know better, but there's so many people that are frankly not going

00:30:49.680 to be the audience for your book that will not get it.

00:30:52.440 Do you feel hope about where the West is at all?

00:30:57.240 Right.

00:30:57.540 Great question.

00:30:58.480 And, and, and I'm not trying to be coy or equivocate by giving you both answers, both

00:31:04.200 that I'm both optimistic and pessimistic.

00:31:06.120 I am both of these things and I'll explain why.

00:31:09.260 So let's suppose, God forbid, you went to see your physician and he or she tells you, you've got incredibly aggressive stage four pancreatic cancer. We have absolutely no intervention strategy. You've got a month, get your life in order. Then that's the highest form of pessimism and that there isn't even a plan to tackle a possible intervention. It's over. It's game over, right?

00:31:34.120 Now, the optimistic part of the question that you asked is that there are a set of autocorrective interventions that the West can implement to completely solve this problem.

00:31:49.300 So it's not as though in the abstract, there is no way for us to tackle the problem.

00:31:55.820 There is a set of autocorrect.

00:31:57.780 For example, closing the border to anyone who does not share the foundational values

00:32:04.140 of the West and the United States is a no-brainer. 0.99

00:32:07.280 You could implement that, okay?

00:32:08.780 You don't have to be equally tolerant of anybody's belief systems, okay?

00:32:13.560 So that's one.

00:32:14.280 So there is a way to do that.

00:32:15.940 Here is the pessimistic part.

00:32:17.780 I see zero evidence that the West has the most minute testicular fortitude to implement any of

00:32:29.100 that stuff. So on the one side, I'm optimistic and that there is a set of action plans that we

00:32:36.660 could implement. On the negative, people are not only not doing it, in many cases, they're doubling

00:32:42.840 down. So Donald Trump comes in and reverses the transgender participation in women's sports,

00:32:50.980 right, with one signature. But Donald Trump is only here for four years. If you don't get rid

00:32:58.400 of the cultural ethos that says, hey, let's debate what constitutes male or female,

00:33:05.000 because we needed the Olympic Committee to today tell us that, yeah, yeah, it's, I guess,

00:33:09.260 probably not right for biological men to compete in women's sports because that issue hadn't been

00:33:15.100 adjudicated throughout our entire evolutionary history already. So I don't see any evidence

00:33:21.640 that we are willing to eradicate all of these parasitic ideas and suicidal empathy. So overall,

00:33:29.260 I'm not very optimistic. Okay, that is depressing. So we just need people with more balls,

00:33:33.860 is what you're saying. People with more balls who could be, by the way, women. Margaret Thatcher 1.00

00:33:37.900 had more balls than almost every single male Western leader 0.99

00:33:43.700 short of a few, Donald Trump, Obama, right? 1.00

00:33:46.440 But Margaret Thatcher had a lot more testosterone 0.56

00:33:50.880 than Lady Justin Trudeau, right? 0.63

00:33:56.100 It's so true. 0.83

00:33:57.320 It doesn't have to be for you to have testicular fortitude

00:34:00.740 as hardly, and by the way,

00:34:02.940 as all the progressive people explain to us, 1.00

00:34:05.540 having a penis and testicle doesn't make you a man. 1.00

00:34:09.500 It could be a woman. 1.00

00:34:10.660 So I'm open to both men and women 1.00

00:34:13.360 having testicles of mortitude. 1.00

00:34:15.360 Yes, agreed. 0.99

00:34:17.120 The book is Suicidal Empathy, Dying to be Kind,

00:34:20.240 available on May 12th.

00:34:22.000 Make sure that you pick it up

00:34:23.440 and check out Dr. Gadsad on all of his socials,

00:34:26.280 at Gadsad.

00:34:27.780 Is that right?

00:34:28.220 Or is it at Dr. Gadsad?

00:34:29.660 Well, on Instagram, it would be Dr. spelled out,

00:34:33.080 D-O-C-T-O-R.

00:34:34.200 But on X, it's just God's side. 0.97

00:34:36.880 Okay, perfect.

00:34:38.380 Please come back because we have like 12 zillion more questions for you.

00:34:42.940 We could have spent three hours at least.

00:34:45.300 So we would love you to come back and we appreciate you being with us.

00:34:47.660 And what a joy.

00:34:49.260 You are an absolute joy.

00:34:50.340 Thank you so much.

00:34:51.440 Cheers, guys.

The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - May 25, 2026

Discussing Suicidal Empathy on The Chicks on the Right Podcast (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_998)

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