The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - Fake Campus Protesters vs Real Heroes of Freedom (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad

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00:01:07.460 All right. Here we go, guys.

00:01:08.920 So today what I wanted to do is spend a few minutes

00:01:11.840 talking about the protesters that we're seeing on campus.

00:01:17.360 You know, the very sexy, you know, the very sexy, the very fashionable keffiyeh akin to the beautiful revolution of Che Guevara, akin to the beautiful and liberating Nazi swastika.

00:01:30.620 It's so cool to be in a keffiyeh, because it reminds me of, you know, the being stopped at the noble checkpoints in Beirut, where if you were of the wrong religion or if they didn't like you, they would put a bullet through your head.

00:01:46.840 Or when my parents were kidnapped by the glorious and noble freedom fighters of Fatah, who were also wearing keffiyeh.

00:01:55.980 So it's wonderful to see so many people wearing that gorgeous sartorial accoutrement.

00:02:03.020 So I want to contrast some of those just degenerates, imbeciles, castrated fools, ignorant, ignorant, just walking Dunning-Krugers that are populating our universities these days.

00:02:22.080 And I want to actually contrast that to actual heroes.

00:02:26.640 Before I discuss some of these heroes, I want to take a minute or two and explain the concept of virtue signaling, which many of you have heard of by now.

00:02:41.200 But I want to contextualize it against another type of signaling.

00:02:46.220 Signaling theory is something that is covered in many different disciplines.

00:02:50.740 So in economics, you talk about signaling theory and consumer behavior.

00:02:55.200 You could talk about signaling behavior, right?

00:02:58.040 Conspicuous consumption is a form of signaling, right?

00:03:01.260 Animals engage in various forms of signaling, right?

00:03:04.960 In the mating market.

00:03:07.140 So there's a concept in biology called costly signaling.

00:03:10.160 This is something.

00:03:10.880 So I talk about the difference between virtue signaling and costly signaling in the parasitic mind,

00:03:17.460 which I truly hope, I beg you, I implore you, not because I'm going to make $3 off any singular purchase of a book that you will purchase, you know, of mine.

00:03:28.980 But because I truly believe that since this is a battle of ideas, since we need to inoculate people against parasitic ideas, well, what better way than to administer the mind vaccine, right?

00:03:43.180 To inoculate yourself against bad ideas.

00:03:45.840 And if I may say so, the parasitic mind offers you that mind vaccine.

00:03:49.860 So please get out there, buy one, two, three, five copies, gift it to other people, give it to your children as they're about to head off to university.

00:03:59.080 This is how we win the battle.

00:04:01.020 So anyways, in the parasitic mind, I talk about the distinction between costly signaling and virtue signaling.

00:04:07.800 Now, of course, virtue signaling is exactly what all of these degenerates are doing on university campuses.

00:04:14.360 But what is costly signaling?

00:04:15.820 So what I'm going to describe now is something that originally I had discussed in several of my early books,

00:04:21.960 The Evolutionary Basis of Consumption, The Consuming Instinct, and so on.

00:04:27.200 Because I use it in the context of studying the evolutionary roots of consumption, of consumer behavior.

00:04:34.060 But then I applied it to the current issues that we see all around us.

00:04:38.460 So here we go.

00:04:39.660 There are two types of processes, evolutionary processes, that lead to the evolution of particular morphological traits or behavioral patterns, right?

00:04:53.700 There is natural selection and there is sexual selection.

00:04:56.640 Natural selection is the evolutionary mechanism that results in an animal having an adaptation that confers survival advantage to it.

00:05:12.880 So for example, the evolution of camouflaging, right?

00:05:17.200 The fact that some animals can completely, prey animals can completely blend with their environment so that they're not eaten by a predator.

00:05:27.280 Well, that camouflaging evolves through the process of natural selection.

00:05:33.800 Now, there are many traits that couldn't have evolved via natural selection because, if anything, they reduce your chances of surviving in the sense that, for example, it might actually increase your chance of you, you know, succumbing to predation.

00:05:53.360 And, of course, the example that I always use, just because it's so vivid, people can so relate to it, but there are millions of these examples.

00:05:59.560 Well, an example of an example of a sexually selected trait is the peacock's tail, right?

00:06:05.060 Because the peacock's tail could not have evolved to be so conspicuous, to have such iridescent colors, to have such, you know, exaggerated size, because, if anything, those things increase the chances of a predator seeing you.

00:06:24.960 It decreases your chances of you taking flight when you have such a burdensome tail.

00:06:30.600 Physiologically, it's very costly to carry that tail.

00:06:33.440 So it couldn't have evolved because it confers a survival advantage, and so it evolves because it confers a mating advantage, and hence, sexual selection.

00:06:44.180 So those are traits or behavioral patterns that evolve because they confer a mating advantage to the animal, right?

00:06:54.120 And so you could imagine risk-taking in the human context, the fact that men are much more likely to engage in risk-taking behavior as a form of sexual signal.

00:07:05.580 That would be a sex-specific, sexually selected trait, in this case, risky behavior, okay?

00:07:13.160 Now, we're going to come in a second to costly signaling.

00:07:15.600 Now, for that tail, meaning the peacock's tail, for that tail to be a honest signal, right?

00:07:26.300 An honest signal means what?

00:07:27.780 An honest signal, honest in the sense that it truly does convey to the peahens, the females of that species, that this is a good signal, this is an honest signal of my phenotypic quality.

00:07:42.520 So for a signal to be an honest one, honest in the sense that every pretender can't just fake it, then it has to be handicapping.

00:07:56.720 That's called the handicap principle in evolutionary biology.

00:08:00.260 And for it to be handicapping, it has to be costly.

00:08:04.700 In other words, a signal is not worth its salt, if I can put it that way, if it doesn't carry a costly signal.

00:08:13.900 Now, costly can mean different currency for different species.

00:08:18.640 In the case of the peacock, it's saying, look, despite the fact that this tail puts me at a great predation disadvantage,

00:08:31.900 the fact that I could have such an elaborate ornamentation, and yet here I am, don't you think you should mate with me?

00:08:40.620 Isn't that an honest signal of my phenotypic quality?

00:08:43.280 So now I hope you see, I can't believe I'm giving you all this unbelievable wisdom for free.

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00:08:53.200 Don't be parasites.

00:08:55.660 Right?

00:08:56.140 What makes this beautiful is that I provide you this content at 9pm when my wife is rolling her eyes.

00:09:02.820 Why are you going and doing this for free?

00:09:05.000 And hopefully you guys, in some small measure, repay by supporting those who give you all this stuff.

00:09:13.480 In any case, let's continue.

00:09:15.320 So the costly signal has to be handicapping, lest everybody can imitate it.

00:09:21.340 So take, for example, in the context of a rite of passage that you find.

00:09:28.500 This, by the way, I discuss in several of my early books.

00:09:30.600 A rite of passage that is meant to demonstrate to the ladies of a tribe,

00:09:37.740 hey, choose me, because I'm the real deal.

00:09:41.360 I'm a warrior.

00:09:42.360 Well, if all it takes for the rite of passage is for us to do 10 push-ups,

00:09:49.500 well, guess what?

00:09:50.380 That can't be an honest signal.

00:09:52.240 That can't be a costly signal.

00:09:53.860 Because even the fat slobs, sorry, I didn't mean to say fat,

00:09:58.060 the differently weighted slobs,

00:10:00.880 or the differently weighted healthy at any size slobs,

00:10:06.260 can also do 10 push-ups.

00:10:09.100 And therefore, if everybody can do 10 push-ups,

00:10:11.040 and the ladies are trying to determine who is the top specimen and who's the slob,

00:10:17.800 well, they can't.

00:10:18.740 So how about we come up with some rites of passage that are truly costly,

00:10:23.960 so that then we can differentiate the fakers and pretenders from the real deals.

00:10:30.140 So now I hope you could see the framework that I'm putting together for you

00:10:33.560 for real honest signaling when it comes to being a freedom fighter

00:10:39.040 versus the degenerates on university campuses that know nothing

00:10:43.620 and that are supporting modern-day Nazis.

00:10:47.160 So let's keep going.

00:10:51.340 So what would be an example, by the way, of a rite of passage that is costly?

00:10:58.160 Well, in the Amazon, you've got tribes that engage in a ritual.

00:11:05.020 I discussed this in my 2011 book, The Consuming Instinct,

00:11:07.980 where they have to be bitten repeatedly numerous times by a bullet ant.

00:11:20.100 The bullet ant has been ranked as the animal that,

00:11:26.160 if it stings you or bites you, gives you the highest pain reaction.

00:11:32.360 And it's called the bullet ant.

00:11:33.940 I mean, that's not its official scientific name, but its colloquial name is the bullet ant,

00:11:37.940 because when it stings you, it's as painful as if you were shot.

00:11:42.300 Now, so if a single bullet ant bites you, you're in trouble.

00:11:46.600 You're in pain.

00:11:47.260 You're going to go through pain delirium.

00:11:49.440 Now, imagine if I take a bunch of bullet ants, I get them drunk so that they're kind of listless.

00:11:58.620 I interweave them into these gloves so that when they wake up out of their stupor,

00:12:06.260 you put your hands in those gloves so that as they wake up and they're super pissed off

00:12:12.320 and in a nasty mood, they're all stinging you.

00:12:15.180 So it's not one bite, it's a swarm of bites on both of your hands.

00:12:20.000 And as you're getting destroyed by these ants,

00:12:22.840 again, remember one bullet ant bite and you're in excruciating pain.

00:12:28.040 Imagine many.

00:12:29.040 You can't start screaming like a little girl.

00:12:31.780 You can't start screaming like the degenerates on campus,

00:12:34.820 which when they're being, you know, pushed aside by the cops, they go,

00:12:38.780 ow, ow, right?

00:12:40.240 No, there is none of that, right?

00:12:41.600 You have to show that you can withstand the pain.

00:12:44.080 Now, that ritual has to be done on 20 separate occasions, like different days.

00:12:52.260 You have to go through this insane pain before a girl is willing to say,

00:12:58.360 hmm, maybe I'll give you a shot.

00:13:01.480 So that's what we mean by costly signaling.

00:13:03.040 So now you can see how I've given you the theoretical,

00:13:07.860 the evolutionary psychological and evolutionary biological framework

00:13:11.400 to understand real fight for freedom that has to be costly, right?

00:13:19.520 You have to put your neck on the line, literally.

00:13:22.840 Otherwise, it's a bullshit signal.

00:13:25.020 It's a fake signal.

00:13:26.020 It's performative, right?

00:13:27.760 That's exactly what it is on the campus now.

00:13:30.500 I'm speaking now as a 20-year-old degenerate who knows nothing.

00:13:34.480 I need to show that my life has meaning.

00:13:37.100 Just like my parents went and marched with Bob Dylan to fight against the Vietnam War,

00:13:44.240 we have our own ideological struggles.

00:13:47.520 Now, I know nothing.

00:13:48.840 I don't know what from the river to the sea means.

00:13:51.740 I don't know which river.

00:13:52.920 I don't know which sea.

00:13:54.140 I don't know what Hamas stands for.

00:13:56.360 I don't know what Islam stands for.

00:13:58.040 I don't know what Judaism purports.

00:14:00.520 I don't know what the ancestral history of Israel is.

00:14:05.020 I don't know the history of Israel since 1948.

00:14:07.680 I know nothing.

00:14:09.040 But I know that if I wear a keffiyeh, I'm super cool.

00:14:13.900 It's like wearing a Che Guevara revolution.

00:14:17.040 I'm that moron.

00:14:18.520 I'm that imbecilic.

00:14:20.160 I'm that much of an ideological degenerate.

00:14:23.320 Free, free Palestine.

00:14:26.020 Okay?

00:14:27.320 That's fake.

00:14:29.220 That's vacuous.

00:14:31.500 That's virtue signaling.

00:14:33.900 Now, I'm going to come to what I promised you, which is what real freedom fighters look like.

00:14:41.440 What real heroes look like.

00:14:43.840 So, I actually went through.

00:14:45.940 I've been doing my show for 10 years now.

00:14:48.400 I started in 2014.

00:14:50.720 And I couldn't believe it because I was going through my list of people that I've had on the show.

00:14:56.120 And, you know, I forgot some of the people.

00:14:57.720 I can't believe the content that I've amassed, which I hope that you will go and consume all of it.

00:15:04.660 I think right now on my channel, I'm at, sad truth, 1676.

00:15:11.360 I've done 1,676 shows.

00:15:13.960 Not all of them are chats.

00:15:15.580 I'm going to say about three, about one-fifth.

00:15:17.920 I would say about 20% are long-form chats, which is still a lot.

00:15:21.620 That's over 300 chats.

00:15:23.100 So, I went through every single chat that I could find.

00:15:29.740 And I tried to identify.

00:15:32.340 Now, I've had many, many, I mean, if anything, probably the most common theme across all of my guests,

00:15:38.700 other than they're all, you know, fascinating people that have, you know, really interesting things to say,

00:15:43.740 is that in many cases, you know, they're courageous.

00:15:46.940 They're fighting within, you know, against the current.

00:15:49.620 And now, in some cases, it might be guys who fought against the COVID vaccine.

00:15:53.900 It might be physicians, J. Batasheria.

00:15:56.320 It might be Scott Atlas, and so on.

00:15:58.780 But I'm going to focus today, since we're talking about Israel-Palestine,

00:16:02.940 on people who've stood up within the context of, you know, speaking against Islam,

00:16:11.700 speaking about the horrors of what happens in Palestinian society to women,

00:16:19.620 to children, to religious minorities.

00:16:22.260 And so, I apologize from the start if I miss out on some names.

00:16:28.460 I wrote down maybe 50 names.

00:16:31.320 And I put stars next to some of the names that meet the criterion of

00:16:36.100 they're speaking about the Middle East, about Palestine, about Israel, about Islam.

00:16:41.840 So, I'm going to start with my most recent guest, which took place yesterday.

00:16:49.480 It's Mossab Hassan Yusuf, who is just a remarkable individual.

00:16:56.720 This is a guy who is the son.

00:16:59.580 I mean, actually, he wrote a book in 2010, a New York Times bestseller called Son of Hamas.

00:17:05.660 He is the son of one of the co-founders of Hamas.

00:17:10.140 So, he grew up.

00:17:11.400 I mean, it'd be difficult to say that a degenerate idiot from Oberlin College,

00:17:16.920 who knows nothing about Palestinian society,

00:17:19.940 knows more about Palestinian society than the son of Hamas, right?

00:17:26.520 Well, please go and watch our chat.

00:17:30.100 I'm telling you, you won't regret it.

00:17:31.400 It's the pinned tweet.

00:17:33.680 I posted it directly on X.

00:17:35.900 It's the pinned tweet there.

00:17:37.760 It's also on my YouTube channel.

00:17:40.020 It's also on my podcast.

00:17:41.500 So, you can consume it in one of several ways.

00:17:45.040 By the way, on a different note, I posted my...

00:17:49.320 I recently gave two lectures at Cornell University, my alma mater.

00:17:53.760 And I posted so far the first one, which is on the parasitic mind.

00:17:57.760 I posted it again everywhere, both on my YouTube channel, my podcast, and also on X.

00:18:05.020 And Elon Musk, who's become a good friend, shared it.

00:18:12.840 And as a result of Elon being kind enough to share it, it has gotten so far.

00:18:17.360 You're ready?

00:18:18.000 I mean, these numbers just don't make sense.

00:18:20.660 It's gotten 26 million views.

00:18:24.880 I want to contextualize what that looks like.

00:18:29.900 You publish an academic paper.

00:18:32.140 And I don't...

00:18:32.840 I mean, I love publishing scientific papers.

00:18:35.500 You know, I've been a professor for 30 years.

00:18:37.380 And it's part of our responsibility as professor to create knowledge, to disseminate knowledge

00:18:42.560 through peer-reviewed journals.

00:18:43.960 So, I love that stuff.

00:18:46.180 But I want to talk about the velocity at which information travels, say, in academia versus

00:18:53.980 in all of these new mediums.

00:18:57.000 Well, if you publish a paper, first of all, it takes you two, three, four years before it

00:19:00.880 gets into a journal.

00:19:02.080 And then you're lucky if it's a successful paper, if after five years, it has 100 citations.

00:19:08.480 What does that mean?

00:19:09.060 That means 100 other papers or scholarly works have cited your work.

00:19:16.780 And so, if it has...

00:19:17.740 If you go to Google Scholar and you've got one of your publications that has over 100 citations,

00:19:22.960 that's a home run.

00:19:23.920 That's a big hit.

00:19:24.660 So, I don't know how many I have.

00:19:27.160 I'm going to say...

00:19:28.020 I don't know.

00:19:28.540 You can go to my Google Scholar, you know, page.

00:19:33.380 I probably have, I don't know, 10 papers like that.

00:19:36.640 I have maybe 75, 80 scientific publications.

00:19:41.080 The one that's the most is my first book, 2007, The Evolutionary Basis of Consumption,

00:19:46.200 probably has 500-something public citations.

00:19:50.440 And, you know, and then it goes from there.

00:19:53.880 So, imagine I post a lecture.

00:19:56.360 I mean, an academic lecture.

00:19:57.680 It's a lecture that I gave at Cornell.

00:19:58.880 Well, and by Elon, you know, sharing it, 26 million views.

00:20:06.540 Now, if you're in the business of spreading ideas, creating ideas and spreading them,

00:20:11.680 how could you not be excited by the reality that we have today?

00:20:15.340 And so, I'm always amazed that so few professors are still on social media,

00:20:21.800 are still using all of these incredible tools that we have.

00:20:25.560 I mean, look what we're doing right now here.

00:20:26.880 I don't know how many people have joined us.

00:20:29.300 But, you know, 800, 500, 1,000.

00:20:32.280 So, I'm giving a lecture now to 1,000 people, 2,000.

00:20:35.400 And by the way, as always, I do this impromptu, which is, I keep repeating,

00:20:40.120 it's the worst thing to do.

00:20:41.560 You want to habituate people to a certain schedule.

00:20:44.420 You want to tell them, hey, every Monday, every Wednesday at 8 o'clock,

00:20:48.000 we're doing an X Spaces.

00:20:49.140 This is how you grow your audience.

00:20:51.380 But I'm just driven by, you know, impulse.

00:20:53.760 If I'm in the mood to connect with people, I just turn it on and I go.

00:20:58.880 So, in any case, Mossab Hassan Yusuf grew up in Islam, hardcore, I mean, hardcore Islam.

00:21:08.880 I mean, I hate to use the word radical Islam because Islam is Islam.

00:21:12.660 And he decided, no, this is wrong.

00:21:19.340 He started working with the Israeli, you know, services.

00:21:24.620 He saved a lot of lives through his intelligence gathering, lives of both Palestinians and Israelis, right?

00:21:35.440 I mean, he doesn't differentiate.

00:21:37.460 He's for humanity.

00:21:38.900 He wants children, whether they're Jewish or Muslim, to grow up with dignity, to grow up with hope.

00:21:46.200 And so, listen to our chat.

00:21:48.860 But now, imagine the kind of risks this guy took when he was within that world, right?

00:21:56.480 This is not you writing to me and saying, dear Dr. Saad, I'm currently working at such and such company.

00:22:03.940 I can't stand the diversity statements.

00:22:06.160 I'd really like to speak against it, but I'm afraid that I won't get the promotion that I'm looking for.

00:22:13.720 Boo-hoo-hoo.

00:22:15.100 F off.

00:22:16.280 This guy put his life on the line.

00:22:18.540 The things that they would do to him if they found out what would happen, you know, what he was doing,

00:22:23.820 the things that they could do to him now if they found out who he is, where he is, are unthinkable.

00:22:30.460 So, it's almost impossible to imagine that level of courage.

00:22:36.200 That's a hero.

00:22:38.060 That's a man of dignity.

00:22:40.420 That's a man of principle.

00:22:43.240 He said, it doesn't matter the background that I come from.

00:22:45.840 It doesn't matter the brainwashing that I face.

00:22:48.460 He went through some very, very difficult situations in his childhood.

00:22:52.700 I think some of them are public, but I won't repeat them here.

00:22:56.040 I know some of them, you know, through our private conversations.

00:22:59.340 And yet, he came out and said, I'm speaking out against this.

00:23:03.620 When you speak to him, as I did yesterday, you see, you're dealing with him.

00:23:09.120 In Arabic, you say,

00:23:11.380 Shaxiyya.

00:23:12.480 Shaxiyya means, he's a person.

00:23:16.340 He's a somebody when you talk to him.

00:23:18.360 He's deep.

00:23:19.440 He's intense.

00:23:20.640 He's got integrity.

00:23:22.160 He's got courage.

00:23:23.480 He's a man.

00:23:25.000 Okay?

00:23:25.340 That's what the West is lacking.

00:23:27.320 Okay, so, no, your sister who's wearing the keffiyeh and her name is Nancy Smith and she thinks she understands the Palestinian plight, free, free Palestine.

00:23:41.440 F off, Nancy.

00:23:42.480 You know nothing.

00:23:43.320 You're a degenerate.

00:23:44.960 Okay, so there is Mossab Hassan Youssef.

00:23:47.540 Let's go on.

00:23:49.100 Omar Muhammad.

00:23:50.580 Oh, my God.

00:23:53.380 By the way, all of these guys, you should be going.

00:23:56.500 Now that I'm mentioning their names, you should go and watch and listen to our chats.

00:24:01.380 These are all people who've come on my show.

00:24:04.300 Omar Muhammad is in Arabic.

00:24:07.560 His pseudonym was Ain al-Mosul.

00:24:12.600 Ain in Arabic means I.

00:24:15.020 Mosul is the city of Mosul in Iraq.

00:24:17.520 So, Ain al-Mosul means Mosul eye, Mosul's eye.

00:24:23.360 Now, why was it, why was his, why was he called that?

00:24:27.320 Because when ISIS, you know ISIS, Daesh, the maniacs of the Islamic State, right?

00:24:37.480 This is not your boss not giving you your promotion because you spoke out against Black Lives Matter.

00:24:44.560 Boo-hoo-hoo, you're so scared to speak.

00:24:47.520 So, Mosul is under complete ISIS control.

00:24:54.920 Every day, they're taking people to the central square to cut off their hands and behead them,

00:25:02.900 to stone the women, to, sorry, my computer, God, I'm taping this session, so, excuse me a second.

00:25:10.820 So, all of these horrible things are happening and he is documenting that stuff and posting it to the world so that the world can see what ISIS is doing.

00:25:25.220 And they're trying all sorts of ways to identify who he is and he's got to use all these encrypted methods, which if they fail, he gets beheaded, as does his entire family.

00:25:40.140 Oh, boo-hoo-hoo, but you're afraid to talk about BLM because your boss might not invite you to the holiday party.

00:25:47.220 My God, you're so courageous, okay?

00:25:51.080 Now, again, my point is not to, well, actually, it is to shame people.

00:25:55.620 I was going to say my point is not to shame people, but that would be a lie.

00:25:58.300 There is no war that you can engage in where you're guaranteed free passage.

00:26:05.620 As I always tell people, hey, you remember those kids that landed on the beaches of Normandy, those 18-year-olds that said, oh, please, choose me.

00:26:13.300 Choose me to go off the amphibian boat, land on the Normandy beaches where there are 5,000 rotary machine guns of the Nazis

00:26:25.780 that are going to mow down 95% of us like little insignificant ants and mosquitoes.

00:26:31.500 Yeah, sign me up.

00:26:32.340 I'll do it.

00:26:33.200 But you're really afraid because if you talk about BLM, you may get a bad grade from your really mean professor.

00:26:40.380 My God, the courage you have, Kaffiya boy.

00:26:43.760 All right, so Omar Muhammad, by the way, one of the commandants, or I don't know what the title was, the military rank,

00:26:52.440 of ISIS, was living next door to him.

00:26:57.640 And Omar, I mean, and if you meet this guy, he's not seven foot tall.

00:27:02.820 He's not built like Hercules.

00:27:05.420 But guess what?

00:27:06.480 His courage is 100 Hercules.

00:27:09.940 His courage is, it can't be measured.

00:27:12.320 We don't have an instrument yet that can measure his courage.

00:27:16.060 So when I sat there and talked to him, I'm sitting in front of real greatness.

00:27:20.840 I see, and look, greatness comes in any faith and no faith.

00:27:27.100 Mossab Hassan Yusuf, born into Islam.

00:27:31.940 Omar Muhammad, born into Islam.

00:27:35.000 Two of the most courageous, noble men of virtue and integrity that I've ever met.

00:27:40.220 Let's go on.

00:27:40.840 I'm not going to go through all these because there'd be too many.

00:27:44.460 So I'm just going to skip to a few.

00:27:46.400 I'm going to go now.

00:27:47.720 I have a whole, I have about 20 of them here.

00:27:50.160 So I think I said on Twitter that I would do 20.

00:27:53.020 But if I do 20, I've got so many things to say about each one.

00:27:56.060 I'll keep you here for the next five hours.

00:27:58.440 So let me, I'll just do a few more.

00:28:00.700 Maybe I'll spend a bit less time on each.

00:28:02.620 Faisal Saeed Al-Mutar was an early guest.

00:28:08.040 He's now gotten his American citizenship.

00:28:10.320 He's an Iraqi gentleman who, his family was back in Iraq and he was starting to speak out against some of this nonsense.

00:28:19.280 So again, you want courage?

00:28:21.520 You're fleeing all that craziness.

00:28:23.700 You grew up in the world of Saddam Hussein and post-Saddam Hussein.

00:28:27.420 You're growing up in some of the biggest butchery.

00:28:29.820 I mean, I should know, right?

00:28:32.280 I was in the Lebanese Civil War.

00:28:34.180 That's why listen to these people and what they warn you.

00:28:39.200 Don't listen to your bullshit friends that go to Oberlin and Colombia.

00:28:43.840 So Faisal Saeed Al-Mutar, he hasn't been that active recently.

00:28:48.440 But early on, he was doing some good things.

00:28:50.680 I think he was trying to get some of the books, for example, of Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins translated into Arabic so that they can be distributed to the Middle East.

00:29:06.640 So he's a big guy.

00:29:08.420 Asra Nomani.

00:29:10.080 Asra Nomani is an incredible woman, also Muslim.

00:29:14.740 Of course, Faisal is also Muslim.

00:29:16.640 Asra Nomani has been on my show a few times.

00:29:18.740 She's been instrumental not only in fighting some of the extremist Islamic influences in the United States, the Muslim Brotherhood types, CARE, the Council on American-Islamic Relationship, which is just a front for the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:29:34.380 She's also been involved in some of the diversity, inclusion, equity stuff that you see happening.

00:29:41.880 I think she's in Virginia, I believe.

00:29:44.600 So Asra Nomani is a, while she, you know, I think, I don't want to speak for her, but I think she identifies herself culturally as a Muslim.

00:29:52.680 She certainly recognizes that there are some deeply, deeply problematic elements in Islam that the world should know about.

00:30:00.080 Dr. Bill Warner, who's not a Muslim, one of the few on this list that I've chosen to talk about today, but who's really important.

00:30:10.900 Dr. Warner is a physicist by training, but then later in his career, he decided to apply the scientific method, specifically content analysis, to study, to do a quantitative hermeneutics, if you'd like, on Islam.

00:30:26.080 He founded a center called the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

00:30:31.500 And so what he does, basically, he doesn't, he doesn't have to sit and emote about, you know, does Islam preach love or not?

00:30:38.020 He just, he just applies quantitative, rigorous content analysis.

00:30:45.860 How many times does a particular text preach love?

00:30:49.960 How many times does it preach hate or division?

00:30:53.200 How many times are the Jews treated kindly in that book?

00:30:55.940 How many times are they treated bad?

00:30:57.160 So using a very tight and rigorous coding methodology, he can arrive at certain quantifiable conclusions.

00:31:05.540 So I would highly recommend you go check out the Center for the Study of Political Islam by Dr. Bill Warner.

00:31:10.900 Now, the reason why I say he's courageous, because as you might imagine, he puts himself in harm's way by, even though he's not someone who's fiery, he doesn't say things to, you know, to, you know, frivolously offend people.

00:31:24.700 He's applying the rigor of science and, you know, analytics to these very important topics.

00:31:31.800 Okay, so some of you might remember that in Chapter 7 of The Parasitic Mind, I talk about nomological networks of cumulative evidence.

00:31:40.780 So one of which is if you're trying to say, hey, is a religion peaceful or not?

00:31:45.600 You can build a nomological network of cumulative evidence to answer that question.

00:31:49.840 One of which, one line of evidence would be to do a formal canonical analysis of its canonical texts, right?

00:31:59.040 So you could do that, by the way, for anything.

00:32:01.900 You could study a literary, you know, story, you know, a Shakespearean play and say, how often are women's body parts extolled in this play?

00:32:15.240 So you can do a formal analysis, you know, using whatever specific thing that you'd like to study.

00:32:20.800 And so it's a very powerful tool to do an exegesis or, you know, a hermeneutics analysis of a religious text.

00:32:29.560 So Dr. Bill Warner, Dr. Salim Mansour is a political scientist here in Canada.

00:32:34.620 He was at University of Western Ontario, which subsequently became rebranded as Western Ontario.

00:32:40.580 In the Parasitic Mind, I have this incredibly powerful speech that he gave to the Standing Committee on Immigration, I mean, the Canadian government, where he was warning.

00:32:53.360 He is a practicing Muslim, okay?

00:32:56.160 His name is Salim Mansour, and he was railing against the immigration policy of Canada and the West in general, specifically, that it makes no sense to be letting in so many people who don't share the foundational values of this culture.

00:33:13.760 As you might imagine, his message did not resonate well, certainly not in academia, and certainly not amongst the greater, you know, politically correct world, okay?

00:33:24.160 Let's keep going.

00:33:26.600 Tommy Robinson, not a Muslim, you know, blue-collar guy who's got more courage than a hundred Navy SEALs.

00:33:38.760 This guy has stood against a horde of angry Muslim men on the street where they're coming at him ominously and he stands his ground.

00:33:49.160 He's been sent to prison where he had to be put in solitary confinement because there were Muslim gangs in prison that were mandated to kill him.

00:34:01.780 And this guy walks like he's 18 feet tall.

00:34:04.720 He doesn't care.

00:34:06.220 He fights.

00:34:08.060 Now, you could disagree with his positions.

00:34:10.220 You could agree with them.

00:34:11.280 But the point of my, the point of today's X-Space is not, it's not meant to be, you know, anti-Islam or whatever.

00:34:21.640 It's meant to demonstrate that, oh, you want to talk about the Middle East?

00:34:26.400 You want to talk about Palestine?

00:34:27.860 You want to talk about Islam?

00:34:29.040 You want to talk about Israel?

00:34:29.960 You know, it's not by going to Colombia and wearing a keffiyeh and saying, hey, we're getting hungry.

00:34:34.600 We're not getting enough food.

00:34:36.520 I didn't know that I'd have to get hungry in order to, you know, free, free Palestine.

00:34:42.080 Keffiyeh boy.

00:34:43.260 Okay.

00:34:43.660 These are guys who put their lives on the line for the positions that they hold.

00:34:48.600 So that's what I am extolling today.

00:34:51.260 Right.

00:34:52.220 Let's keep going.

00:34:53.060 So, Hazem Faraj is a guy who came on my show early on, very handsome guy, dashing that kind of Arabic, beautiful guy.

00:35:04.220 Hazem Faraj is a Palestinian, Palestinian Muslim who decided to do the unthinkable, decided to do something that gets you the death penalty.

00:35:14.960 And you should listen to our chat.

00:35:16.860 This is from many years ago where he says, yeah, my parents would kill me.

00:35:23.060 Because I converted from Islam to Christianity.

00:35:27.020 But I thought that Islam is the religion of peace.

00:35:30.540 How come his family wants to kill him?

00:35:32.640 That makes no sense.

00:35:33.920 He must be mistaken.

00:35:35.800 So, Hazem Faraj, while he's certainly not as a public figure as some of the other people that I've mentioned,

00:35:41.980 he's incredibly courageous in that he decided that despite the fact that he might be ostracized,

00:35:49.700 well, he would be ostracized from his family, despite the fact that because of apostasy, because you're leaving Islam,

00:35:59.020 the canonical punishment is death for apostasy.

00:36:03.540 As a matter of fact, Sheikh Yusuf Karadawi, who was the premier Sunni cleric from Al-Azhar University,

00:36:13.620 the top Sunni cleric in Islam, recently passed away, said if it weren't for the apostasy laws, Islam would have died.

00:36:21.580 In other words, one of the best ways you make sure that your religion grows is that you make sure that people can't leave your religion.

00:36:27.320 And therefore, people stay in the religion.

00:36:30.740 And one day you wake up, and one-fourth of humanity is that religion.

00:36:34.100 So, Hazem Faraj is another one.

00:36:36.400 Let me skip a few.

00:36:38.160 Robert Spencer is another one.

00:36:40.180 He's got a...

00:36:42.080 He goes by the name Jihad Watch.

00:36:46.320 He's actually a very sweet...

00:36:48.140 I know him personally.

00:36:49.500 He's been on my show a few times.

00:36:50.880 He's written many books.

00:36:51.780 He's not inflammatory.

00:36:53.780 He's not...

00:36:54.100 He just...

00:36:54.780 He does a scholarly analysis of many of these Islamic issues.

00:37:00.560 And he arrives at a conclusion based on his analysis.

00:37:04.220 Now, of course, the people who hate him say,

00:37:05.880 Oh, yeah, but he's not Muslim, but he's not Arabic, but he's not from the Middle East,

00:37:09.540 but he didn't study at Al-Azhar University.

00:37:12.320 Well, no.

00:37:13.400 If a book is meant to be something that the whole world should abide by,

00:37:18.400 then it should be available for anybody to study, correct?

00:37:20.800 That's why people in Indonesia and Malaysia don't speak a word of Arabic,

00:37:25.280 and yet they're Muslim, right?

00:37:26.680 So, that's bullshit when you say,

00:37:28.180 Oh, but, you know, Robert Spencer is just an American.

00:37:31.180 So, Robert Spencer is a guy who's had many, many death threats.

00:37:34.960 But again, my point today is to say,

00:37:38.160 costly signaling.

00:37:39.520 For taking those positions, he has to be careful.

00:37:43.480 He has to walk around looking around his shoulders,

00:37:46.740 which should never be the case anywhere in the world,

00:37:48.820 but it certainly shouldn't be happening in the West.

00:37:51.360 It certainly shouldn't be happening in the United States,

00:37:53.400 but it is.

00:37:54.480 Let's go on.

00:37:55.860 Tariq Fatah, who recently, regrettably, passed away,

00:38:00.180 has been on my show,

00:38:01.980 was a...

00:38:03.020 He defined himself as a practicing Muslim,

00:38:05.940 but he was a honey badger.

00:38:08.520 If you saw the kind of fights he got into with Pakistanis,

00:38:13.760 and the...

00:38:14.220 I mean, he, you know, he would go to India and Pakistan,

00:38:17.500 if I'm not mistaken.

00:38:18.480 By the way, his daughter is a well-known CBC,

00:38:22.640 Canadian Broadcasting Company, anchor.

00:38:26.200 He was fearless.

00:38:28.880 I mean, he would go into a hotbed of Islamists,

00:38:32.020 and he would stand his ground.

00:38:33.600 Now, that's courage.

00:38:36.040 He's Muslim.

00:38:36.940 He's a practicing Muslim,

00:38:38.280 but he realized that his religion had some problems

00:38:40.640 that were incongruent with the West,

00:38:43.680 and he was honest about it.

00:38:46.360 All right, let's move on.

00:38:47.800 Dr. David Wood is someone who's been on my show,

00:38:51.540 who's...

00:38:52.100 I mean, he takes a bit more of a frontal

00:38:55.760 and possibly inflammatory approach

00:38:59.340 to criticizing the noble faith.

00:39:03.040 He uses sarcasm.

00:39:04.500 He's got...

00:39:04.880 He's actually got a pretty spicy humor,

00:39:08.920 which, of course, can upset some people,

00:39:11.100 but he's had to face a lot of death threats and so on,

00:39:14.700 so you can check him out.

00:39:16.580 Bosh Fosten is an Albanian Muslim.

00:39:20.360 I mean, you talk about,

00:39:23.220 oh, Islam is the religion of the brown man.

00:39:25.520 Well, there is no whiter guy than Bosh Fosten.

00:39:28.700 He's basically a ghost.

00:39:29.820 He's Casper.

00:39:31.200 He's a ginger.

00:39:32.800 He's freckled with red hair,

00:39:34.780 but he's from Albania, Muslim.

00:39:36.740 He left Islam,

00:39:38.620 and the way he has fought his religion of birth

00:39:41.800 is he's a cartoonist,

00:39:43.960 and so he...

00:39:45.760 In a sense, he's drawn very strong ire

00:39:48.860 because, you know, you're not supposed to draw

00:39:50.460 Muhammad and so on,

00:39:52.180 and so he's had people

00:39:54.260 who had been assigned

00:39:56.360 to go and assassinate him,

00:39:59.220 and I think, if I'm not mistaken,

00:40:00.740 you could probably look it up on Google.

00:40:02.300 They were dropped by some Texans who were there

00:40:04.900 or maybe in Arizona.

00:40:05.980 I can't remember where it was.

00:40:07.420 So he's faced real assassination attempts.

00:40:10.320 I've actually had the chance to...

00:40:12.420 I mean, he's been on my show,

00:40:13.660 and I've also met him, you know,

00:40:17.900 on a personal level,

00:40:19.320 lovely guy,

00:40:21.240 very peaceful guy,

00:40:22.460 but has the courage of a hundred men

00:40:24.760 because he says,

00:40:25.860 no, no, no, no.

00:40:27.200 In the West,

00:40:28.260 you can't tell people

00:40:29.500 what they can draw or not draw and so on.

00:40:31.800 It's not...

00:40:32.280 He's not trying to go out of his way

00:40:33.580 to be mean to anybody, right?

00:40:35.400 But he's saying,

00:40:36.400 no, I will not submit

00:40:38.760 in the way you want me to submit.

00:40:40.720 We don't live in Yemen here.

00:40:42.020 We don't live in Pakistan.

00:40:44.240 So, you know,

00:40:45.300 that takes courage.

00:40:46.260 By the way,

00:40:47.540 you want to draw anything about Judaism,

00:40:50.020 mock anything you want about Judaism,

00:40:52.020 go for it.

00:40:53.280 I strongly support it.

00:40:55.180 You know why?

00:40:55.960 Because I don't care.

00:40:57.280 Whatever faith I have

00:40:58.580 or no faith that I have

00:40:59.980 is not dependent

00:41:01.880 on the fact that

00:41:03.560 you should respect it or not.

00:41:05.100 Now, if you say,

00:41:06.120 hey, let's go to the corner of the street

00:41:08.460 where the Jews congregate

00:41:09.780 and let's kill them all,

00:41:10.780 well, that's not free speech.

00:41:12.280 That's incitement to direct,

00:41:13.920 direct incitement to violence.

00:41:15.480 But you want to say

00:41:16.540 Judaism is a piece of crock?

00:41:18.840 You want to say

00:41:19.540 Moses is a fake prophet?

00:41:22.800 Go for it.

00:41:24.000 Who cares?

00:41:25.140 I'm strong enough

00:41:26.040 in my identity

00:41:28.580 that I'm not going to

00:41:30.880 break apart.

00:41:32.440 So imagine if Islam

00:41:33.640 had that kind of security, right?

00:41:35.780 I don't care what you say about Islam.

00:41:38.320 This is my religion.

00:41:40.080 It brings me solace.

00:41:41.880 You don't like it?

00:41:43.120 So be it.

00:41:43.980 Let's have hummus now.

00:41:45.240 Let's get together and have fun.

00:41:47.040 That's the proper way

00:41:49.120 to practice your religion,

00:41:50.500 certainly in the West.

00:41:51.860 But that's not what's happening

00:41:53.180 in the West.

00:41:54.420 Anyway, so

00:41:55.020 Bosh Fosin is another fantastic guy.

00:41:57.080 Let's go on.

00:41:59.480 All right, I finished this list.

00:42:00.940 Let me go to this list.

00:42:02.000 Now, this one is going to surprise you

00:42:03.340 because he's now

00:42:04.280 on my bad list.

00:42:06.520 The Malibu Meditator.

00:42:10.840 Yeah, I said it.

00:42:12.860 The Malibu Meditator,

00:42:14.120 Sam Harris.

00:42:15.260 I first really got into Sam

00:42:17.180 when he was,

00:42:19.740 I mean,

00:42:20.560 yes, he was an atheist,

00:42:22.360 a caustic atheist

00:42:23.200 who was against all religion.

00:42:24.600 But then if you remember,

00:42:25.780 he started specifically

00:42:26.880 criticizing Islam.

00:42:27.980 Again, I'm not talking about

00:42:29.040 whether I like that

00:42:30.300 he criticizes Islam or not.

00:42:31.580 What I'm saying is

00:42:32.220 he knew that he'd get

00:42:33.960 a lot of flack for it,

00:42:35.140 but it took courage

00:42:37.380 for him to take that position.

00:42:38.980 All I'm arguing about today

00:42:40.560 is having the courage

00:42:42.980 to stand for your convictions.

00:42:46.960 Okay?

00:42:47.560 Douglas Murray is another one.

00:42:49.180 Of course, you know him.

00:42:50.120 He's written several books

00:42:51.520 about the death of the West

00:42:53.860 and so on.

00:42:55.420 He's also been on.

00:42:56.360 Everybody that I'm mentioning here

00:42:57.660 has been on my show.

00:42:58.300 And this next one

00:42:59.640 is very mysterious guy.

00:43:03.880 Ibn Warak.

00:43:06.040 Warak in Arabic is paper.

00:43:09.180 So the son of paper.

00:43:11.120 Like, you know,

00:43:11.900 it's a pseudonym

00:43:13.220 that has occurred

00:43:14.980 throughout

00:43:15.720 in Islamic history.

00:43:17.980 So Ibn Warak.

00:43:19.500 I mean, we would,

00:43:21.000 in my Arabic,

00:43:22.040 we wouldn't say the

00:43:23.060 k at the end.

00:43:24.120 We'd say Warak,

00:43:25.400 but it's just

00:43:26.920 a different pronunciation.

00:43:28.080 So Ibn Warak

00:43:28.620 is an amazing guy

00:43:29.780 who really knows Islam,

00:43:32.100 who comes from

00:43:32.660 an Islamic background,

00:43:33.980 who's taken a lot of flack.

00:43:35.320 He's had to be somewhat,

00:43:37.780 you know,

00:43:38.440 right under a pseudonym.

00:43:39.740 This is not his real name

00:43:41.240 because of the difficulties

00:43:43.100 that he's had to face.

00:43:44.740 Another guy,

00:43:46.400 Brother Rashid.

00:43:48.640 Such an affable guy,

00:43:50.180 lovely guy.

00:43:50.760 comes from

00:43:51.780 North African

00:43:53.560 Islamic background,

00:43:55.720 converted to Christianity.

00:43:57.720 That's not a good thing

00:43:58.980 in that region.

00:44:00.060 You do not apostatize.

00:44:02.400 And he's now a,

00:44:04.460 you know,

00:44:05.180 strong man of faith,

00:44:07.880 but of Christian faith.

00:44:10.440 Again,

00:44:11.260 my point is not to say,

00:44:12.580 oh, bravo,

00:44:13.760 you left Islam.

00:44:14.760 It's to say,

00:44:16.180 he grew up

00:44:17.060 in a very difficult environment

00:44:18.960 where to make

00:44:20.500 the faith-based decision

00:44:21.940 that he did

00:44:22.720 will bring you death.

00:44:24.980 And yet he did it.

00:44:26.460 So again,

00:44:27.520 your son,

00:44:29.240 who's wearing

00:44:30.120 the tight pants

00:44:31.200 with the keffiyeh

00:44:32.780 and going free,

00:44:33.720 free Palestine

00:44:34.360 at Columbia University

00:44:36.040 is not exactly

00:44:37.440 the model of heroism.

00:44:39.160 Okay?

00:44:39.480 And who's then whining,

00:44:40.760 but why aren't we getting

00:44:41.860 through Uber Eats

00:44:43.020 our sushi?

00:44:44.020 I'm getting hungry.

00:44:45.820 Okay?

00:44:46.220 No.

00:44:46.860 Brother Rashid,

00:44:47.760 apostatizing out of Islam

00:44:50.020 when he's going to get

00:44:51.160 a death threat.

00:44:52.500 There is your courage.

00:44:54.360 Right?

00:44:54.800 By the way,

00:44:55.680 I mentioned these guys

00:44:56.820 just because these are

00:44:57.620 many of the people

00:44:58.240 who've come on my show.

00:44:59.980 But just so you don't think,

00:45:01.280 oh, boo-hoo-hoo,

00:45:02.080 I'm focusing on Islamic people.

00:45:04.400 Imagine

00:45:04.800 an ultra-Orthodox

00:45:08.060 Jewish kid

00:45:09.100 who grew up

00:45:11.100 in a Lubavitch home.

00:45:12.900 So like an ultra-Orthodox home.

00:45:15.420 But he decides

00:45:17.480 one day,

00:45:18.260 I'm gay.

00:45:20.260 I can't live a lie.

00:45:22.200 I can't

00:45:22.920 get married

00:45:24.340 and have 18 children

00:45:25.620 and live this lie.

00:45:27.240 Now he knows,

00:45:28.300 now,

00:45:28.880 the good news here

00:45:29.740 is that at least

00:45:30.380 the Lubavitch

00:45:30.920 are not going to kill you,

00:45:32.200 but he knows

00:45:33.220 that if he takes

00:45:34.500 the decision

00:45:35.080 to leave his fold,

00:45:37.620 never mind that he's gay,

00:45:39.520 he just decides,

00:45:40.240 I don't want to be

00:45:41.040 any more ultra-Orthodox.

00:45:42.340 I want to wear

00:45:42.880 secular clothes.

00:45:44.280 I don't want to pray

00:45:45.000 50,000 hours a day

00:45:46.880 before I go to the bathroom,

00:45:48.500 pray,

00:45:48.780 before I sit down,

00:45:49.620 pray,

00:45:49.900 before I have a meal,

00:45:50.980 pray,

00:45:51.260 before I go to sleep,

00:45:52.260 pray.

00:45:52.840 My God,

00:45:53.480 God seems to really need

00:45:55.140 a lot of prayers from me.

00:45:56.280 All day I have to pray to him.

00:45:57.820 So he decides,

00:45:58.880 I don't want to pray anymore.

00:46:00.640 I'm gay.

00:46:02.020 Well,

00:46:02.340 what happens then?

00:46:03.460 He's gone.

00:46:04.280 He loses his family.

00:46:05.300 He's finished.

00:46:06.220 Now,

00:46:06.440 it doesn't happen often,

00:46:07.920 but it does happen

00:46:09.460 that person

00:46:10.780 is engaging

00:46:11.980 in costly signaling

00:46:12.920 because he's saying,

00:46:14.840 I'm willing to lose

00:46:15.800 everything I've got,

00:46:17.200 every marker

00:46:19.240 that defines

00:46:20.480 my belongingness

00:46:21.780 because I have to live

00:46:23.040 an authentic life.

00:46:24.460 So this is not,

00:46:26.000 so my point about courage

00:46:27.600 is not only for people

00:46:29.940 who speak out,

00:46:30.800 of course,

00:46:31.080 against Islam

00:46:31.720 or leave Islam.

00:46:32.960 I'm just using those examples

00:46:34.160 because we're talking

00:46:35.500 about currently

00:46:36.400 these protesters

00:46:37.960 on campuses

00:46:39.460 that are talking

00:46:40.560 about issues

00:46:41.140 in the Middle East

00:46:41.840 that they know nothing about.

00:46:42.840 That's why I'm focusing on that.

00:46:44.260 But courage

00:46:44.880 is not restricted

00:46:46.060 to one faith,

00:46:47.180 to one group,

00:46:48.060 to,

00:46:48.260 you know,

00:46:49.260 any group can have

00:46:50.440 unbelievably courageous people

00:46:52.020 or regrettably,

00:46:53.820 like most groups,

00:46:56.020 a bunch of cowards.

00:46:58.460 Cynthia Farahat,

00:47:00.280 she's been on my show twice.

00:47:02.260 Cynthia is a Coptic Christian.

00:47:04.780 By the way,

00:47:05.200 her husband,

00:47:05.680 Jeff Higgins

00:47:06.720 was a special agent

00:47:08.360 with the DEA

00:47:09.580 and he was instrumental.

00:47:12.320 He's been also on my show.

00:47:13.420 He's been instrumental

00:47:14.120 in bringing down

00:47:15.380 at the time

00:47:17.300 the top heroine kingpin

00:47:20.000 in the world

00:47:20.840 that was tied

00:47:21.740 to the Taliban.

00:47:23.140 Incredible story.

00:47:24.560 We should,

00:47:25.060 I mean,

00:47:25.280 unbelievable,

00:47:25.920 like they should make

00:47:26.380 a movie out of his life.

00:47:28.220 Anyway,

00:47:28.540 Cynthia Farahat

00:47:29.280 is a Coptic Christian.

00:47:30.760 As you know,

00:47:31.980 Coptes in Egypt

00:47:32.820 are now about 10%.

00:47:33.680 Once upon a time,

00:47:35.840 they were all of Egypt

00:47:37.220 and then through mysterious,

00:47:39.820 peaceful forces,

00:47:41.420 they're now almost extinguished.

00:47:43.200 Inshallah,

00:47:44.160 in another 50,

00:47:45.120 hundred years,

00:47:46.600 there will no longer

00:47:47.660 be Coptes.

00:47:49.300 In any case,

00:47:49.800 so she takes a lot of flack

00:47:51.940 for some of the positions

00:47:53.180 that she takes.

00:47:53.960 that's courage.

00:47:55.720 Okay?

00:47:56.800 Again,

00:47:57.600 I'm not trying to imply

00:48:00.100 that only those

00:48:01.060 who speak out

00:48:01.680 against Islam

00:48:02.260 are courageous.

00:48:03.400 There are many,

00:48:04.520 many contexts.

00:48:05.440 As I said earlier,

00:48:06.480 you speak out

00:48:07.080 against ultra-Orthodox

00:48:08.440 family values

00:48:10.360 and you decide

00:48:11.100 that you're gay.

00:48:11.840 That takes a lot of courage.

00:48:13.800 You're a fundamentalist Christian

00:48:16.080 and you decide,

00:48:17.680 you know what?

00:48:18.400 I don't believe in God.

00:48:19.840 I'm an atheist.

00:48:20.900 I'm leaving.

00:48:21.720 Again,

00:48:22.300 it may be that

00:48:23.080 you don't get beheaded,

00:48:24.580 but it takes courage

00:48:26.840 because think,

00:48:28.200 think about those,

00:48:29.260 those sects

00:48:30.900 from the,

00:48:31.460 the Mormon sects

00:48:32.980 that,

00:48:33.580 where the guy,

00:48:34.400 the,

00:48:34.580 the prophet of the sects

00:48:36.000 was convicted

00:48:36.580 of sex crimes.

00:48:38.200 Well,

00:48:38.660 people are terrified

00:48:40.420 to leave the fold

00:48:41.420 because they were born

00:48:42.320 into that

00:48:42.900 in some little town

00:48:44.500 in Utah or Arizona.

00:48:46.080 They've known nothing else.

00:48:47.440 They're told never

00:48:48.160 to interact with anybody else.

00:48:50.100 You know how scary it is

00:48:51.140 for them to say,

00:48:52.060 I'm leaving this hellhole?

00:48:54.200 That takes courage.

00:48:55.820 Unlike your

00:48:57.340 keffiyeh-wearing

00:48:58.700 sister at Oberon College.

00:49:01.700 All right,

00:49:02.040 let's move on.

00:49:03.140 Yasmin Mohamed,

00:49:04.100 I just went on her show

00:49:05.620 and she agreed,

00:49:08.620 she was excited

00:49:09.340 that I offered her

00:49:10.320 that I can also post

00:49:11.720 our recent chat,

00:49:12.820 just held it last week.

00:49:15.720 We talked about,

00:49:16.800 you know,

00:49:16.960 my background in Lebanon

00:49:17.960 and so on.

00:49:18.620 Yasmin Mohamed

00:49:19.360 was married off

00:49:21.180 to an ultra extremist

00:49:23.360 extremist

00:49:24.280 that was abusing her

00:49:26.040 and that she's from,

00:49:27.640 she's Egyptian,

00:49:28.820 of Egyptian background

00:49:29.680 and who had her

00:49:30.720 in a niqab

00:49:31.580 here in Canada

00:49:32.660 and it took

00:49:34.160 unbelievable courage

00:49:35.820 for her to break

00:49:37.200 from her family's hold

00:49:40.120 to leave this guy

00:49:41.740 who was really,

00:49:42.600 really hardcore.

00:49:43.800 I mean,

00:49:43.940 this guy was no nonsense.

00:49:45.940 So Yasmin Mohamed,

00:49:46.880 if you see her today,

00:49:48.340 she's a beautiful,

00:49:49.700 kind,

00:49:50.180 lovely,

00:49:50.640 peaceful woman

00:49:51.280 who really had the courage

00:49:53.480 to break out

00:49:54.540 of a very,

00:49:55.400 very difficult situation.

00:49:57.080 Here's another one.

00:49:57.820 You ready?

00:49:59.020 Imam Mohamed Tawheedi.

00:50:01.100 Imam Mohamed Tawheedi,

00:50:04.120 well,

00:50:04.580 as an imam,

00:50:05.400 he's become a very good

00:50:06.780 personal friend.

00:50:08.520 By the way,

00:50:09.100 this shows you here

00:50:09.880 that imam and I

00:50:12.020 have more things

00:50:13.740 in common

00:50:14.420 that I might actually have

00:50:16.560 with an ultra-Orthodox

00:50:18.200 Jewish guy.

00:50:19.700 So,

00:50:20.280 the way that I decide

00:50:22.780 who is an ally,

00:50:25.880 ideological ally,

00:50:27.660 comes on the basis

00:50:29.320 of their individual expressions

00:50:30.960 of their ideology.

00:50:32.540 So,

00:50:32.780 here is an imam

00:50:33.720 who,

00:50:34.360 because of the positions

00:50:35.260 that he's taken,

00:50:36.180 I don't say,

00:50:37.160 oh,

00:50:37.440 he's Muslim,

00:50:38.300 he's my enemy.

00:50:39.120 No,

00:50:39.960 I don't.

00:50:40.420 I mean,

00:50:41.480 as a matter of fact,

00:50:42.360 he's a brother to me.

00:50:43.520 He's lovely.

00:50:44.120 We've met many times

00:50:44.900 in Montreal.

00:50:46.100 He's been on my show

00:50:47.000 a few times.

00:50:47.980 We've had incredible conversations.

00:50:50.160 Now,

00:50:50.920 in some cases,

00:50:51.900 it might be difficult

00:50:52.840 to see how he reconciles

00:50:54.460 some of his own,

00:50:55.880 you know,

00:50:57.220 theological positions

00:50:58.300 as an imam

00:50:59.040 with some of my understanding

00:51:02.040 of his religion,

00:51:03.260 but that notwithstanding,

00:51:06.180 you know,

00:51:07.960 he's had a lot of death threats.

00:51:10.720 It's not easy for him

00:51:12.280 to take the position

00:51:13.940 that he takes.

00:51:15.460 In his case,

00:51:17.060 one of the ways

00:51:17.920 that he does his criticism

00:51:19.880 of Islam,

00:51:20.440 he basically says,

00:51:21.860 you know,

00:51:22.220 the Quran is,

00:51:24.380 you know,

00:51:24.840 the book that you should go by,

00:51:26.320 and he doesn't buy

00:51:28.600 the hadith.

00:51:29.560 For those of you

00:51:30.020 who don't know,

00:51:31.000 there are really three

00:51:32.060 core books in Islam.

00:51:34.520 I mean,

00:51:34.860 other than

00:51:35.880 Sharia law,

00:51:37.160 which is

00:51:37.600 the reliance

00:51:39.120 of the travel.

00:51:39.740 So anyways,

00:51:40.260 that's a separate issue.

00:51:41.660 Sharia means like

00:51:42.440 the path,

00:51:43.200 Sharia,

00:51:43.700 Sharia,

00:51:44.280 okay?

00:51:44.900 But

00:51:45.200 in terms of

00:51:47.160 the canonical books,

00:51:48.000 you've got the Quran,

00:51:49.300 then you've got

00:51:49.820 the hadith,

00:51:50.700 and then you've got

00:51:51.540 the seerah,

00:51:52.200 the biography

00:51:53.380 of Muhammad.

00:51:54.580 And so

00:51:55.060 Imam Tawheidi

00:51:57.760 basically says,

00:51:58.560 well,

00:51:59.000 you know,

00:51:59.400 you'll see less

00:52:00.440 bad stuff

00:52:01.200 in the Quran

00:52:01.860 than you will

00:52:02.720 in the hadith.

00:52:03.920 And so

00:52:04.300 using whatever,

00:52:05.880 you know,

00:52:07.760 canonical gymnastics

00:52:08.960 that he feels

00:52:09.760 comfortable with,

00:52:10.440 he's able to arrive

00:52:11.540 at certain conclusions

00:52:12.660 that are certainly

00:52:14.100 a lot more congruent

00:52:15.520 with many of the values

00:52:17.520 that I would hold dear.

00:52:18.820 And the values

00:52:19.240 that I hold dear,

00:52:20.120 not as a Jewish person,

00:52:21.880 but as a

00:52:22.920 lover of

00:52:23.820 Western liberties.

00:52:25.080 Okay?

00:52:25.780 Let's go on.

00:52:26.580 I'll do a few more

00:52:27.420 and I think we'll

00:52:28.100 wrap it up.

00:52:30.560 Let's go with

00:52:31.640 Ansaf Haidar,

00:52:33.140 who's been on my show.

00:52:34.240 Ansaf is the

00:52:35.580 wife

00:52:36.240 of Raif

00:52:37.760 Badawi.

00:52:39.200 Raif Badawi

00:52:40.080 has

00:52:41.100 already won

00:52:42.760 the Sakharov Prize,

00:52:44.780 Sakharov after the name

00:52:45.780 of the Soviet dissident.

00:52:48.100 And

00:52:48.500 everybody is saying

00:52:49.860 that if he were to ever

00:52:50.960 be allowed to leave

00:52:52.320 Saudi Arabia,

00:52:53.580 he would be

00:52:54.180 a guaranteed

00:52:55.240 Nobel Prize winner.

00:52:56.640 Who is Raif Badawi?

00:52:58.040 He is a blogger

00:52:59.700 who wrote an article

00:53:01.260 that was construed

00:53:02.860 by the Saudi government

00:53:03.960 as insulting,

00:53:05.060 you know,

00:53:05.420 to the kingdom,

00:53:06.340 to the royal family,

00:53:07.600 to Islam,

00:53:08.080 whatever.

00:53:08.640 And believe me,

00:53:09.400 he's a very gentle guy.

00:53:10.880 He's not saying

00:53:11.900 crazy inflammatory stuff.

00:53:14.080 He's not trying to

00:53:15.500 rattle anybody's cage.

00:53:17.000 But

00:53:17.160 in the context

00:53:18.220 of Saudi Arabia,

00:53:19.100 that was perceived

00:53:19.820 as too much.

00:53:20.400 he was sentenced

00:53:22.100 to 10 years

00:53:22.980 in prison

00:53:23.560 and to endless

00:53:24.680 number of lashings.

00:53:26.300 This is happening

00:53:27.080 in the 21st century.

00:53:31.460 It's been over,

00:53:32.340 so he served

00:53:33.120 his 10 years.

00:53:33.940 They didn't

00:53:34.660 implement all the lashings

00:53:36.800 because

00:53:37.200 his health suffered.

00:53:39.200 He ended up

00:53:40.100 being spared

00:53:41.680 all of the

00:53:42.800 sentenced lashes.

00:53:44.380 But after he

00:53:46.180 served his

00:53:46.960 10-year sentence,

00:53:48.000 he then

00:53:48.480 is still not

00:53:49.800 allowed to leave

00:53:50.320 Saudi Arabia.

00:53:51.840 His wife,

00:53:52.540 Ansaf,

00:53:53.460 immigrated

00:53:54.060 with her three

00:53:54.820 gorgeous children

00:53:56.040 to Quebec.

00:53:57.960 They live here

00:53:58.600 in Quebec,

00:53:59.080 about two hours

00:53:59.780 away from where

00:54:00.480 I am.

00:54:01.660 I've had

00:54:02.080 the privilege

00:54:03.120 and pleasure

00:54:04.520 of meeting them all.

00:54:05.940 I've seen them

00:54:06.760 grow up.

00:54:07.920 They're

00:54:08.240 absolutely

00:54:09.420 lovely family.

00:54:11.040 I mean,

00:54:11.900 there is the

00:54:13.000 immigrants that

00:54:13.600 you want.

00:54:14.620 They come here.

00:54:15.720 They want to

00:54:16.160 contribute.

00:54:17.100 They don't want

00:54:18.280 to do any

00:54:18.700 of the crazy

00:54:19.200 stuff.

00:54:19.700 They don't want

00:54:20.080 to change

00:54:20.500 the society

00:54:21.240 to be similar

00:54:22.840 to the one

00:54:23.360 that they left.

00:54:24.680 Now,

00:54:24.940 the reason why

00:54:25.260 I'm mentioning

00:54:25.640 it is because

00:54:26.480 for the courage

00:54:28.660 of speaking

00:54:29.440 his mind,

00:54:31.220 Reif has

00:54:32.200 paid,

00:54:32.780 in my view,

00:54:33.560 maybe a penalty

00:54:34.320 that's even

00:54:34.860 greater than death.

00:54:36.540 He knows

00:54:37.000 that the passage

00:54:37.740 of time

00:54:38.400 is causing

00:54:39.080 his children

00:54:39.820 to grow up

00:54:40.700 and yet

00:54:41.720 he's not

00:54:42.320 there to see

00:54:43.060 them grow up.

00:54:44.260 They're thousands

00:54:44.900 of miles away

00:54:45.880 and he's

00:54:46.980 in a prison,

00:54:49.340 even if he

00:54:50.080 might be let

00:54:50.660 out of prison

00:54:51.160 now,

00:54:51.580 that doesn't

00:54:52.300 allow him

00:54:52.960 to see his

00:54:53.900 children grow.

00:54:54.680 What could

00:54:54.960 be more cruel?

00:54:56.520 And so,

00:54:57.840 again,

00:54:58.540 that's what

00:54:59.320 courage is.

00:55:00.700 Noor bin Laden

00:55:01.640 has come on my show.

00:55:02.920 She is the niece

00:55:03.660 of Osama bin Laden,

00:55:05.640 the niece

00:55:06.280 of Osama bin Laden

00:55:07.420 and yet she,

00:55:09.280 of course,

00:55:09.920 speaks

00:55:10.400 in less

00:55:12.700 than

00:55:12.960 complimentary

00:55:13.400 ways

00:55:14.200 about her

00:55:15.060 uncle.

00:55:16.380 That takes

00:55:17.160 courage.

00:55:18.340 Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

00:55:20.240 Ayaan Hirsi Ali,

00:55:21.420 as some of you

00:55:21.980 know,

00:55:22.400 is a

00:55:22.900 Somali

00:55:23.360 woman

00:55:23.740 who

00:55:25.180 left

00:55:26.620 an arranged

00:55:27.360 marriage.

00:55:28.140 She had

00:55:28.440 had

00:55:28.920 female genital

00:55:29.940 mutilation

00:55:30.540 done on her

00:55:31.560 given her

00:55:32.900 Islamic

00:55:33.480 background

00:55:33.900 in Somalia.

00:55:34.920 And yes,

00:55:35.540 it's not

00:55:36.020 only Islam

00:55:36.980 that does

00:55:37.600 these female

00:55:38.140 genital mutilations,

00:55:38.920 but it's

00:55:39.460 certainly

00:55:39.940 quite extensive

00:55:41.460 within that

00:55:42.040 region.

00:55:43.200 And she

00:55:44.600 escaped,

00:55:46.340 moved to

00:55:46.780 the Netherlands,

00:55:47.720 learned Dutch,

00:55:49.020 got an education,

00:55:50.420 became a

00:55:51.780 parliamentarian

00:55:52.860 in the Dutch

00:55:53.640 parliament,

00:55:54.640 and then

00:55:55.020 eventually,

00:55:55.800 because of the

00:55:56.260 number of

00:55:56.700 death threats

00:55:57.200 on her,

00:55:57.720 one of her

00:55:58.140 friends'

00:55:58.620 filmmaker

00:55:59.000 was assassinated,

00:56:00.880 a Dutch

00:56:01.500 filmmaker,

00:56:02.900 assassinated by

00:56:03.880 a noble

00:56:04.460 person of

00:56:05.060 peace.

00:56:05.400 and then

00:56:07.520 she moved

00:56:08.040 to the

00:56:08.620 United

00:56:08.920 States.

00:56:10.240 She was

00:56:10.980 at one

00:56:11.340 point at

00:56:11.860 Harvard.

00:56:12.620 The risks

00:56:13.140 to her

00:56:13.640 safety were

00:56:14.220 too great,

00:56:15.120 and now

00:56:15.640 she moved

00:56:16.080 elsewhere.

00:56:17.300 I've gotten

00:56:17.820 to know her.

00:56:19.180 I'd like to

00:56:19.840 say that I

00:56:20.860 consider her

00:56:21.420 a friend,

00:56:21.880 as I do

00:56:22.460 her husband,

00:56:23.520 the famous

00:56:24.460 esteemed

00:56:25.100 historian

00:56:25.680 Neil

00:56:26.360 Ferguson.

00:56:30.780 Very,

00:56:31.460 very courageous,

00:56:32.400 because again,

00:56:33.440 at great

00:56:33.960 personal cost,

00:56:34.920 she took

00:56:36.240 the risks

00:56:36.720 to speak

00:56:37.340 her mind.

00:56:38.400 So that's

00:56:39.380 Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

00:56:40.560 Let me see

00:56:41.020 if I've got

00:56:41.440 any other

00:56:41.880 ones that

00:56:42.200 I'm missing

00:56:42.580 on this

00:56:43.000 list.

00:56:44.480 I'll mention,

00:56:45.720 I think,

00:56:46.580 three more,

00:56:47.520 and I'll wrap

00:56:48.040 it up,

00:56:48.500 which will

00:56:48.820 take us

00:56:49.200 to almost

00:56:49.600 an hour.

00:56:50.200 I think

00:56:50.540 I've probably

00:56:50.920 mentioned

00:56:51.240 about 20.

00:56:53.900 Masih

00:56:54.380 Ali

00:56:55.560 Nijad.

00:56:56.520 Masih

00:56:56.980 in

00:56:57.280 Arabic,

00:57:00.440 I mean,

00:57:00.820 Masihi,

00:57:01.460 or Masih

00:57:02.200 is like

00:57:02.600 the

00:57:03.120 Christian,

00:57:05.400 or the

00:57:06.180 prophet

00:57:07.280 of

00:57:07.620 Christianity,

00:57:08.620 right?

00:57:09.920 If you

00:57:10.580 say

00:57:10.920 Muslim,

00:57:12.680 it's one

00:57:13.380 who is

00:57:13.800 Muslim,

00:57:14.560 right?

00:57:14.700 If you

00:57:14.940 say

00:57:15.100 Yahudi,

00:57:15.800 it's

00:57:16.040 someone

00:57:16.260 who is

00:57:16.620 Jewish.

00:57:17.020 If you

00:57:17.260 say

00:57:17.480 Masih,

00:57:18.440 it's

00:57:19.440 Christian,

00:57:20.660 Christ,

00:57:21.160 okay?

00:57:21.780 So Masih

00:57:22.700 Ali

00:57:23.720 Nijad is

00:57:24.500 an Iranian

00:57:25.260 woman

00:57:25.700 who,

00:57:28.020 here,

00:57:28.540 she's not

00:57:28.900 necessarily

00:57:29.260 speaking out

00:57:29.980 against

00:57:30.260 Islam,

00:57:30.820 she is

00:57:31.120 certainly

00:57:31.380 speaking out

00:57:32.120 against

00:57:32.500 the

00:57:32.760 theocracy

00:57:33.540 of the

00:57:34.580 Iranian

00:57:35.160 Islamic

00:57:36.240 regime,

00:57:37.320 and

00:57:37.600 speaking

00:57:38.060 about

00:57:38.460 the

00:57:38.760 emancipation

00:57:39.780 of women

00:57:40.320 within

00:57:40.800 Islamic

00:57:41.300 societies.

00:57:42.320 She does

00:57:43.040 that at

00:57:43.380 great

00:57:43.620 personal

00:57:44.060 risk,

00:57:44.520 she does

00:57:44.840 that with

00:57:45.280 a lot

00:57:45.640 of

00:57:45.880 passion,

00:57:47.900 and oh,

00:57:49.160 you want

00:57:49.480 to talk

00:57:49.780 about

00:57:50.080 courage?

00:57:51.140 How about

00:57:51.560 the courage,

00:57:52.760 while it's

00:57:53.320 sad to

00:57:53.780 say,

00:57:54.060 how about

00:57:54.380 the courage

00:57:55.040 of the

00:57:56.080 Iranian

00:57:56.560 women who

00:57:57.820 are willing

00:57:58.320 to go out

00:57:59.080 into the

00:57:59.560 street without

00:58:01.060 their hijabs

00:58:02.120 on?

00:58:02.680 Oh,

00:58:02.900 but I

00:58:03.160 thought the

00:58:03.620 hijab was

00:58:04.180 just a

00:58:04.680 choice.

00:58:05.720 Well,

00:58:05.980 apparently

00:58:06.360 not.

00:58:07.240 And if

00:58:07.680 the moral

00:58:08.100 police finds

00:58:08.980 you without

00:58:09.420 you wearing

00:58:10.100 the hijab,

00:58:10.980 then you

00:58:11.500 disappear into

00:58:12.880 some hellhole

00:58:13.760 where you are

00:58:14.700 gang raped and

00:58:15.480 then you're

00:58:15.840 found dead,

00:58:16.660 and yet they

00:58:17.080 do it.

00:58:18.100 Now,

00:58:18.340 how do

00:58:18.800 these Iranian

00:58:19.680 women compare

00:58:20.820 on courage

00:58:21.660 to your

00:58:22.680 kefiyah

00:58:23.460 friend at

00:58:24.420 Oberlin

00:58:24.960 College in

00:58:25.760 Colombia?

00:58:26.380 Free,

00:58:26.740 free,

00:58:27.100 Palestine.

00:58:28.020 That doesn't

00:58:28.780 take much

00:58:29.200 courage because

00:58:30.660 you didn't

00:58:31.080 get your

00:58:31.560 Uber Eats

00:58:32.280 sushi.

00:58:33.760 You

00:58:33.860 degenerate,

00:58:35.680 pampered,

00:58:36.480 entitled

00:58:37.060 prick.

00:58:39.460 Now,

00:58:39.640 am I saying

00:58:40.960 that people

00:58:41.300 don't have a

00:58:41.780 right to

00:58:42.140 politically

00:58:42.620 protest?

00:58:43.180 Of course

00:58:43.500 not.

00:58:44.260 Free

00:58:44.520 country,

00:58:45.500 freedom of

00:58:45.940 speech,

00:58:46.560 First

00:58:46.740 Amendment.

00:58:47.720 But you

00:58:48.080 have a

00:58:48.480 right to

00:58:49.060 start putting

00:58:50.200 roadblocks.

00:58:51.300 Are you

00:58:51.680 Jewish?

00:58:52.500 Are you

00:58:52.960 Zionist?

00:58:53.820 And if

00:58:54.060 so,

00:58:54.420 you're not

00:58:54.840 allowed entry

00:58:55.680 on campus?

00:58:57.560 Where are

00:58:58.020 we?

00:58:59.200 That's

00:58:59.960 insane.

00:59:02.060 All right.

00:59:03.360 So,

00:59:03.800 Masih

00:59:04.220 Alinejad,

00:59:07.020 Iranian

00:59:07.500 activist.

00:59:09.060 Let's

00:59:09.780 move on

00:59:10.240 to someone

00:59:10.680 who is

00:59:11.140 not from

00:59:11.880 that region,

00:59:12.820 but is

00:59:13.120 as

00:59:13.940 courageous,

00:59:15.500 has one

00:59:15.860 of the

00:59:16.060 worst

00:59:16.320 personal

00:59:16.840 stories

00:59:17.280 ever.

00:59:18.200 Yeonmi

00:59:18.540 Park

00:59:18.980 escaped from

00:59:20.500 North Korea.

00:59:21.760 You want

00:59:22.660 to talk

00:59:23.020 about

00:59:23.300 barbarian.

00:59:24.800 Maybe

00:59:25.360 this is

00:59:25.780 a place

00:59:26.240 that

00:59:26.520 competes

00:59:27.300 and

00:59:28.140 takes the

00:59:31.180 championship

00:59:31.740 of

00:59:32.100 barbarism.

00:59:32.900 Worse than

00:59:33.480 probably any

00:59:34.920 place in

00:59:35.340 the Middle

00:59:35.600 East.

00:59:36.340 It certainly

00:59:36.740 puts up a

00:59:37.260 good competition.

00:59:38.640 It's a

00:59:39.020 closed,

00:59:39.600 repressive

00:59:40.200 hellhole.

00:59:41.900 You

00:59:42.000 don't cry

00:59:44.360 enough when

00:59:45.740 dear leader

00:59:46.680 dies,

00:59:47.740 off you go

00:59:48.540 with your

00:59:48.940 entire family

00:59:49.840 and the

00:59:50.180 next three

00:59:50.640 generations to

00:59:51.560 the slave

00:59:51.980 camps.

00:59:52.340 she escaped

00:59:53.780 with her

00:59:54.120 mother.

00:59:54.360 She's been

00:59:54.940 on my

00:59:55.220 show.

00:59:55.520 She's

00:59:55.680 written a

00:59:56.040 couple of

00:59:56.300 best-selling

00:59:56.700 books.

00:59:57.640 She's

00:59:57.820 unbelievable.

00:59:58.720 She's

00:59:59.000 incredible.

01:00:02.220 I won't

01:00:02.900 give you all

01:00:03.380 the details

01:00:03.860 of what she

01:00:04.340 went through,

01:00:05.060 but the

01:00:05.660 type of

01:00:07.060 courage that

01:00:07.820 is required

01:00:08.580 to go

01:00:09.180 through the

01:00:10.700 craziness that

01:00:11.660 she went

01:00:12.140 through in

01:00:13.500 the hope of

01:00:14.280 escaping to

01:00:15.440 come to

01:00:16.080 the free

01:00:17.360 West,

01:00:18.420 that's

01:00:18.740 courage.

01:00:19.720 Your

01:00:19.880 keffiye

01:00:20.340 wearing

01:00:20.880 friend who

01:00:22.180 is for

01:00:22.520 queers for

01:00:23.120 Palestine

01:00:23.680 is not

01:00:25.060 courageous.

01:00:26.340 It's a

01:00:26.960 parasitized

01:00:27.660 person.

01:00:28.840 It's a

01:00:29.200 person that

01:00:29.680 doesn't know

01:00:30.360 that in

01:00:30.820 Gaza the

01:00:32.060 psychiatrists

01:00:32.840 there have

01:00:33.440 a 100%

01:00:34.820 successful

01:00:35.680 conversion

01:00:36.680 therapy.

01:00:37.360 It's a

01:00:37.580 gravity-based

01:00:38.440 conversion

01:00:38.980 therapy.

01:00:40.480 That's what

01:00:41.220 the morons

01:00:41.900 queers for

01:00:42.460 Palestine are

01:00:43.220 supporting.

01:00:44.120 You're

01:00:44.460 queer and

01:00:45.460 you're

01:00:45.660 supporting

01:00:46.100 Gaza?

01:00:48.280 All right.

01:00:49.520 And then

01:00:49.920 finally the

01:00:50.600 last gentleman

01:00:51.200 I'm going

01:00:51.600 to mention

01:00:52.040 for today

01:00:52.680 is Luai

01:00:54.200 Ahmad

01:00:55.140 who is

01:00:56.320 a Yemeni

01:00:57.940 man,

01:01:00.460 a gay

01:01:01.040 man,

01:01:01.560 who left

01:01:03.600 Yemen

01:01:04.220 because of

01:01:06.060 this little

01:01:07.240 thing called

01:01:08.180 death sentence

01:01:09.620 for gays.

01:01:10.920 But wait a

01:01:11.500 minute.

01:01:12.360 I thought

01:01:13.200 that Islam

01:01:13.740 was completely

01:01:14.460 tolerant of

01:01:15.220 everybody.

01:01:16.580 Apparently not

01:01:17.440 because in

01:01:18.060 Yemen they

01:01:19.020 will put you

01:01:19.540 to death.

01:01:20.100 And by the

01:01:20.440 way you

01:01:20.680 can go

01:01:21.060 and look

01:01:21.500 at which

01:01:22.460 are the

01:01:22.880 countries

01:01:23.360 that still

01:01:24.220 have the

01:01:25.080 death penalty

01:01:25.800 when it

01:01:26.200 comes to

01:01:26.600 homosexuality.

01:01:28.400 And it's

01:01:28.740 not only

01:01:29.440 Islamic

01:01:30.140 countries but

01:01:31.700 it is

01:01:32.100 largely

01:01:32.760 Islamic

01:01:33.500 countries.

01:01:33.940 And it's

01:01:34.220 not only

01:01:35.280 Islamic

01:01:36.140 countries that

01:01:36.800 are homophobic,

01:01:37.620 of course not,

01:01:38.800 but 21st

01:01:40.380 century death

01:01:41.060 penalty, yes

01:01:42.180 there is a

01:01:42.860 recurring theme.

01:01:43.560 Well, Mr.

01:01:45.500 Ahmed left

01:01:46.300 Yemen, moved

01:01:47.820 to Sweden,

01:01:49.940 started seeing

01:01:50.920 the insanity

01:01:51.720 that was

01:01:52.320 happening in

01:01:52.980 Sweden because

01:01:53.900 of the

01:01:54.280 immigration

01:01:54.740 policies there,

01:01:56.220 and started

01:01:57.240 putting out

01:01:57.900 these videos

01:01:59.220 that have

01:01:59.880 gone viral.

01:02:01.020 I noticed

01:02:01.800 him at one

01:02:02.420 point, invited

01:02:03.140 him on my

01:02:03.620 show, we

01:02:04.020 had an

01:02:04.280 incredible

01:02:04.700 chat, and

01:02:06.340 that takes a

01:02:07.780 lot of

01:02:08.000 courage because

01:02:08.640 I believe

01:02:09.400 that his

01:02:09.900 mother and

01:02:11.120 some of

01:02:11.500 his family

01:02:13.160 are still

01:02:13.740 back in

01:02:14.180 Yemen, so

01:02:14.760 it takes a

01:02:15.760 lot of

01:02:16.060 courage for

01:02:16.660 you to be

01:02:17.140 coming out

01:02:17.780 and speaking

01:02:18.360 out against

01:02:18.860 some of

01:02:19.120 these issues.

01:02:20.020 So, to

01:02:20.720 conclude,

01:02:21.480 folks,

01:02:24.800 virtue

01:02:25.100 signaling is

01:02:26.140 exactly that.

01:02:27.180 It's virtue

01:02:27.900 signaling because

01:02:28.860 it is

01:02:29.280 costless,

01:02:30.320 because it

01:02:30.760 doesn't take,

01:02:32.000 there's no

01:02:32.580 skin in the

01:02:33.260 game, there's

01:02:33.800 no skin off

01:02:34.500 your back to

01:02:35.800 engage in this

01:02:36.600 performative

01:02:37.280 bullshit.

01:02:38.100 Now, by the

01:02:38.480 way, today I

01:02:39.580 focused specifically

01:02:40.880 on, you

01:02:41.880 know, the

01:02:42.540 Palestinian

01:02:43.080 protest, the

01:02:44.040 Hamas

01:02:44.460 protest, the

01:02:45.360 Israel-Palestine

01:02:47.120 dynamic, Islam,

01:02:48.440 Middle East, only

01:02:49.540 because I

01:02:50.640 wanted to

01:02:51.240 contextualize what

01:02:52.560 virtue signaling

01:02:53.660 is in the

01:02:54.460 context of the

01:02:55.240 pro-Hamas and

01:02:56.100 pro-Palestine

01:02:56.900 campus protest

01:02:58.080 versus actual

01:02:59.480 costly signaling

01:03:01.400 from that

01:03:02.160 region.

01:03:02.800 But we

01:03:03.360 could apply

01:03:04.120 that principle

01:03:05.100 for all sorts

01:03:06.040 of other

01:03:06.600 types of

01:03:07.160 behaviors,

01:03:07.920 right?

01:03:08.700 But, again,

01:03:09.620 the framework

01:03:10.320 that you

01:03:10.660 have to

01:03:10.980 remember is

01:03:11.900 one of

01:03:12.700 does the

01:03:14.880 behavior

01:03:15.600 impose an

01:03:18.200 honest,

01:03:19.560 handicapping,

01:03:20.760 costly signal?

01:03:21.820 The people

01:03:22.660 that I have

01:03:23.140 listed for you

01:03:24.000 today have

01:03:25.640 incurred that

01:03:26.980 cost.

01:03:28.240 They've

01:03:28.740 incurred all

01:03:30.180 of the most

01:03:31.240 costly

01:03:33.180 repercussions

01:03:34.640 that one can

01:03:35.580 incur because

01:03:36.320 of their courage

01:03:38.540 and bravery.

01:03:39.380 So there you

01:03:39.740 have it,

01:03:40.120 folks.

01:03:41.060 Don't be

01:03:41.500 impressed by

01:03:42.240 those

01:03:42.980 bullshitters on

01:03:43.880 campuses.

01:03:44.880 Hopefully, this

01:03:46.120 will die down.

01:03:47.120 Hopefully, we

01:03:47.620 can return to

01:03:48.460 sanity where

01:03:49.060 people can

01:03:49.660 disagree

01:03:50.480 peacefully, where

01:03:51.900 people can

01:03:52.380 engage in

01:03:53.000 rational debates.

01:03:54.880 May the best

01:03:55.420 ideas win.

01:03:56.700 But this

01:03:57.120 kind of

01:03:58.240 true

01:04:00.040 non-protected

01:04:02.720 agitation

01:04:04.180 is intolerable.

01:04:06.540 You can't

01:04:06.960 be telling

01:04:07.400 people, oh,

01:04:08.660 are you a

01:04:09.160 Zionist?

01:04:09.800 Are you

01:04:10.200 Jewish?

01:04:10.840 Are you

01:04:11.140 wearing Star

01:04:11.740 of David?

01:04:12.240 You're not

01:04:12.620 welcome in

01:04:13.200 the zone.

01:04:13.700 This is

01:04:14.040 liberated,

01:04:14.780 occupied

01:04:15.220 territory.

01:04:16.260 This can't

01:04:16.860 be tolerated

01:04:17.620 in the West

01:04:18.520 because if you

01:04:19.540 tolerate that,

01:04:20.740 you'll be

01:04:21.080 waking up

01:04:21.600 tomorrow having

01:04:23.100 a repeat of

01:04:24.580 the civil war

01:04:25.260 that I escaped

01:04:25.900 from in the

01:04:27.060 70s.

01:04:27.800 There you have

01:04:28.460 it, folks.

01:04:29.400 I, believe

01:04:30.260 me, I think

01:04:30.740 most of you

01:04:31.240 who follow me

01:04:31.840 know this, but

01:04:32.460 let me mention

01:04:32.960 it.

01:04:33.720 I hold

01:04:34.520 zero ill

01:04:35.820 will to

01:04:36.800 any human

01:04:37.540 being who

01:04:38.460 is honest,

01:04:40.440 peaceful,

01:04:41.140 dignified,

01:04:41.860 who holds

01:04:42.280 values of

01:04:42.980 individual

01:04:43.480 freedom.

01:04:44.940 You want

01:04:45.420 to practice

01:04:45.900 your religion

01:04:46.540 and the

01:04:46.860 privacy of

01:04:47.480 your thoughts,

01:04:48.240 of your

01:04:48.600 mind, of

01:04:49.700 your home

01:04:50.260 without

01:04:50.980 imposing any

01:04:52.280 costs onto

01:04:53.240 others.

01:04:53.860 Go for it.

01:04:54.800 But the

01:04:55.260 second that

01:04:56.700 you impose

01:04:57.480 one millimeter

01:04:58.780 of your

01:04:59.720 ideas onto

01:05:01.020 me,

01:05:01.840 then we're

01:05:02.800 no longer

01:05:03.300 friends.

01:05:04.340 And so

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01:05:05.080 speak out,

01:05:05.960 I speak

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01:05:07.340 any ideology

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01:06:59.060 Thank you so

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The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - May 06, 2024

Fake Campus Protesters vs Real Heroes of Freedom (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_668)

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