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00:01:10.080our website or follow us on social media to learn more. Hi everybody, this is Gad Saad, another
00:01:16.100Another fantastic guest for you today, and we're connected through his son. I'll talk about that in a second. I've got Hesh Keston with me, who is a former foreign correspondent, mainly for Forbes, but has written for many people. First, let me say hello, Hesh. Welcome to the show.
00:01:33.840Thank you very much. I'm honored to be here, God.
00:01:35.940Oh, it's so good to be with you. And I might be correct in saying, because I saw you light up a cigar, you might be the first Sad Truth guest smoking a cigar on the show. So kudos to you, sir.
00:01:50.300If you wait long enough, you'll see me drinking as well.
00:01:53.300Good. Now, would that be, if you're drinking, is that because the conversation is going well or poorly?
00:01:59.180it's it's i i drink when i'm happy also also sometimes when i was a war correspondent when
00:02:06.560i was under fire ah okay fair okay so let's see if we'll get the the the alcohol flowing let me
00:02:12.320mention so after you were a foreign correspondent you then became a prolific author let me work i
00:02:18.800think from earliest to latest here are your books based on a true story i like i love the title the
00:02:27.060next one the iron will of shoeshine cats then we've got the lie then we have the siege of tel0.56
00:02:35.020aviv and then your most recent one the wrong jew defeating those who wanted us dead and you have
00:02:42.620your own cancellation story anything you want to add to your uh intro before we get going you know
00:02:48.400but i i was thinking when you said a former foreign correspondent i prefer to think of myself
00:02:53.920as a recovering foreign correspondent now why is that it wasn't it wasn't a good career choice
00:03:00.400because because you know journalism is known as the the uh the first draft of history but the fact
00:03:07.800is that journalism is in and of itself a kind of pretense at the truth we know very little about
00:03:18.940the bigger picture when we're in the field writing this stuff uh we always think that we do know
00:03:26.200and in a sense uh fiction which i turn to gives us a much better picture of the truth if it's done
00:03:32.960well and truly uh then uh the so-called truth that we make a living at i can i can relate to
00:03:42.340what you're saying but in a in a slightly different way so i'm a by by in terms of my
00:03:48.220academic career i apply evolutionary psychology to study human behavior and evolutionary psychology
00:03:55.060could be applied to many disciplines including literature fiction where the argument is that
00:04:01.380the reason why literature titillates us so is because it is an accurate window to our human
00:04:07.740nature. So that speaks to exactly what you're saying, right? I agree. In fact, my mentor in
00:04:15.480these matters was a fellow named Arely Arif, who was a lieutenant general in the IDF. And
00:04:25.560he was the head of military intelligence at the time of the Six-Day War. And he said,
00:04:35.380what we need in military intelligence is fewer analysts of what was and more novelists about
00:04:44.000what will be or may be. Very interesting. I mean, we'll get back into sort of the main
00:04:52.300issues that we want to discuss. But since I have a novelist in front of me, one of my great regrets
00:04:58.160so far uh which i think i can remedy at any point is that when i look at my reading diet
00:05:05.280i'm much more of a non-fiction guy and i and i say i regret that i'm not more of a fiction guy
00:05:12.880because there's tons of great literature that i've yet to read i'm trying to remedy that now by
00:05:18.140buying you know all of you know many of the classics and hopefully reading them you know
00:05:22.860many years ago i bought crime and punishment by dostoyevsky i'm trying to convince my daughter
00:05:27.640to read it now what's your reading regimen are you more of a fiction guy or are you equal 50 50
00:05:34.560what's your story actually actually both but now that you say you want to read more fiction i i sort
00:05:41.840of got the inference made the inference that i'm going to have to send you some novels
00:05:46.360meaning your novels or you're gifting oh yeah not not anybody else's listen i'm in competition
00:05:53.600with a lot of people. And the sad fact, not the sad fact, about Western culture is that we have
00:06:05.500produced general literacy in the Western world, which is a huge change from what was true even
00:06:17.120as few as about 200 years ago. And everybody believes that because they read, they can write.
00:06:23.600So my problem is the world is flooded with bad fiction, and there's really a way to stand out.
00:06:36.260And the way we stand out is to become our own marketers.
00:06:43.200And if we're marketing our own stories, we're not writing them.
00:06:48.400And it's, you know, push me, pull you.
00:09:01.940Oh, what a pleasure it is to hear from you.
00:09:03.740here are the four tickets within an hour or two we're at this unbelievable game and then eventually
00:09:09.260we got to know each other and he said you know you really need to speak to my uh father he's a
00:09:13.760he's a great guy i think you guys have a great conversation did that story surprise you or is
00:09:18.840that part and parcel of your son it uh it is my son the only disappointing thing here the only
00:09:25.000negative for me is that i lived in israel for 20 years uh i was pretty well known uh because i also
00:09:32.360ran a uh an israeli newspaper and uh when i walk with ross on the street anywhere in israel not
00:09:40.540just in netanya but in tel aviv or jerusalem people stop and shake his hand not mine it is
00:09:48.580it is it is i don't know if it's if it's as a father i'm very happy exactly i was going to say
00:09:54.320don't you want as a good father as a novelist uh there's some question fair enough okay so let's
00:10:01.680now turn to your own cancellation story, which you sent me in your inaugural email when we first
00:10:08.480started speaking. You told me about it. Please tell us that story. Okay. You know, the funny
00:10:12.760thing about this is that I never expected to be a martyr. It's a very strange feeling and one which
00:10:24.280I don't want to continue being, but it looks like this is my fate. The good thing is it happened
00:10:32.120when I was in my 70s. So that would be about seven years ago now. And the story is very simple.
00:10:40.240So I had written a novel called The Siege of Tel Aviv. And it was being brought out,
00:10:48.420It was brought out by a boutique publisher named Zank, D-Z-A-N-C, that puts out, at that time, I think they were putting about 20 books out a year.
00:11:03.240And they did a very good job with my books.
00:11:06.460And so I wanted this place with them, even though my previous publisher was Scribner, which is the Rolls-Royce of American publishing.
00:11:15.980Unfortunately, if you've ever known anybody with a Rolls-Royce,
00:11:24.260So anyway, this was a very personal boutique publisher.
00:11:30.580And the day of publication on Twitter, which is now X,
00:11:38.920Some 13 messengers came out accusing me and the book, The Siege of Tel Aviv, of being Islamophobic and racist, because the book tells what theoretically may happen had what happened on October 7th been widespread.
00:12:06.280And five Islamic armies led by Iran overrun Israel, conquer Israel.
00:12:17.700And when the smoke clears, some 6 million of the 8 million Jews in Israel are transferred, usually by rail, to an internment camp that is Ghetto Tel Aviv.
00:12:38.380and people living on the street, on the beach, waiting either to be annihilated, murdered,
00:12:46.500or being saved by the West. The West does not come to their defense. And in fact, through lock and
00:12:56.680pluck uh uh certain darker elements within israel assume the leadership of the resistance0.98
00:13:08.220as happened during world war ii where the uh uh jewish gangsters were pretty much
00:13:16.760gangsters and poets were the only defenders of the jews in the warsaw ghetto0.98
00:13:22.220So it ends happily. There's a lot of death and destruction. But what these people were who were offended by the theory of the book, the thesis of the book, was that bad Islam conquered good Israel in their eyes.0.99
00:13:48.600And they didn't see it that way. They said Islam is a religion of peace. It's also a religion of bomb throwing, but we know that as well.
00:14:02.880Yes. So we'll get to that. But what happened then was very strange for me. The publisher immediately got back to me and said, don't worry, everything's OK. I have I have your back and nothing bad will happen.
00:14:21.760Two weeks later, he recalled 10,000 copies of the book from bookstairs all across North America and Canada and had them pulped, which is to say, apparently, the Nazis didn't have pulping technology, they just burned them and wasted it.0.73
00:14:41.000This was echo friendly. And the next step was that my agent, who was the is, I think, still the doyen of American literary representatives, decided to no longer represent me and I couldn't get published.
00:15:02.340And I tried to get published under my name, but it was well enough known that I hadn't apologized for offending Islam, which is the case mostly with people who are novelists and writers who are censored and canceled, always come back and say, our mistake, we're very sorry.
00:15:27.700We didn't mean this. Take us back. And as in Stalinist Russia, that's enough.
00:15:34.820OK, and that usually is enough. But I made the mistake of not apologizing.
00:15:40.020One of the crimes against me was that I had on the cover misspelled the name of the religion or those who followers of the religion as Muslims instead of Muslim.1.00
00:16:44.760Yeah, I've contracted a really bad cold. So to all our listeners and viewers, my apologies for the auditory jihad.
00:16:52.620But anyways, I guess it's okay to mention, because you mentioned it to me in the email, that both your publisher and your agent were, drumroll?
00:17:10.340I don't know how closely you follow all of my content and my writings, but I've introduced a term that seems to have caught on, the wood cricket Jew.0.52
00:17:19.960Right. So so we could easily put that publisher and that agent under the appellation of wood cricket Jews. Yes.
00:17:27.300Yeah. God, the only thing wrong with that appellation is that it is not nearly strong enough. The word is turncoats.
00:17:37.400Yeah, fair enough. But to your point, I've written several times that I despise the wood cricket Jew more than I despise the Muslim or Muslim, although Arabic is my mother tongue, the Muslim extremist.1.00
00:17:55.340Because what could be more execrable than the self-loathing, piggish Jew who says, I am more enlightened than you, Gatsad. You may have experienced whatever you did in Lebanon, but I, Jessica Tarlov on Fox, am here to tell you that as the representative of Jews, we should all be voting for Abdul El-Sayed. Does that get your goat as much as it does mine?0.98
00:18:23.800I can tell you something more execrable, more shitty than that.1.00
00:18:32.020And it is because I was always asked in Israel, why are you so stupid?1.00
00:18:37.140Why have you come here from America when we want to come to America?0.99
00:18:41.340You know, and the truth is, I was working for a major metropolitan newspaper in New York in 1967.
00:18:48.880And my intention was, this was in May of 1967, and I read the writing on the wall, and I realized that war would break out in the Middle East.
00:19:05.540And my intention was to fly to Israel and be there in time to be the newspaper's correspondent or correspondent, which would elevate my career and also be a lot of fun.
00:19:21.540So unfortunately, I didn't have a passport.
00:19:27.900And I was forced to watch the war from New York.
00:19:33.700And as punishment for my overweening ambition, my editors looked around the city room and said, Hesh, take this photographer and this guy on a fellowship, Mexican on a fellowship, to study American journalism and go around to Jewish neighborhoods in New York and ask them how they feel about the war.
00:20:03.160This was about the third day. So first I had to explain it to my Polish Catholic photographer, what I was doing, and also to the Mexicans who had no idea about the relationship of the people in New York to the people in Israel.
00:20:19.960And every one of them, to a man, to a woman, said the same thing. And it made me ill.0.75
00:20:29.540They said, we're really beating the hell out of those Arabs, aren't we?0.92
00:20:36.760And it was very sad for me because they weren't beating.0.84
00:20:41.300First, people were dying on both sides.
00:20:44.440And second, they were not doing anything.
00:21:02.160How do you, I mean, of course, I've got my own, you know, theories as to what drives the wood cricket Jew, but I'd love to hear yours.0.98
00:21:09.420What do you think explains the fact that so many Jews are so, quote, progressively enlightened, are picketing for, you know, Mamdani and Abdul El-Sayed?0.95
00:21:21.780Like, for example, Mandy Patinkin, whom I didn't know who he was until I started seeing his recent clips where he is just imploring everybody, look, I'm Jewish.0.79
00:21:33.680I'm Mandy Patinkin. And I can tell you, Jews cannot feel safe in the United States unless they are protected by the overlord Abdul El Sayyid.0.94
00:21:43.480So he's taken on the reflex of a, do you know what the term dimmi means? Do you know what that is?0.61
00:22:12.440You will pay a jizya, a tax, and there'll be a bunch of procedures that will always make sure0.94
00:22:17.840that you know your place in Islamic society. And so many Jews and Christians will take on the1.00
00:22:24.720psychology of dimitude, whereby, you know, they want to make sure that my big boss is not upset1.00
00:22:30.660with me. But this is not in Yemen. This is happening in the United States. I didn't know
00:22:35.480that American Jews needed the protection of a Muslim Brotherhood adjacent guy for us to feel0.96
00:22:42.460say walk us through this hash what's going on well uh you know you understand it better than
00:22:48.260uh better than i but i i can tell you that uh i almost began this podcast by saying
00:22:55.360because uh i but i didn't want to get 10 years ahead of myself okay we are going to be in in
00:23:06.520And that's right now, Michigan is a is a voting block for Arab Americans, as it should be.
00:23:18.780OK, because New York City and Chicago and Philadelphia were voting blocks for Jews.0.96
00:23:25.420People vote for their own interests.0.99
00:23:28.900Unfortunately, the interests of, I won't say all Muslim Americans, is domination, okay?1.00
00:23:42.460And we'll get in a moment, I think, to why Jews are like this.0.99
00:23:48.480American Jews have spent the last 100, 150 years learning to be Americans.1.00
00:23:55.780Israeli Jews have spent approximately the same time learning to be Israelis.0.99
00:24:02.280They're as different as night and day.1.00
00:24:05.720In the book, The Wrong Jew, I start with a joke about two Jews facing a firing squad.
00:24:16.280And the captain of the squad approaches and says, do you have one last request?
00:24:23.920and one of them says yes i'd like a cigarette and the other one says shh don't make trouble
00:24:31.140oh okay so that's one one thing jews american jews don't want to make trouble
00:24:38.620but but also they have lost that spark of
00:24:45.140uh defenders of the warsaw ghetto uh that uh that moved migrated totally to uh to israel
00:24:56.960so these are not strong people these are accountants these are surgeons these are uh
00:25:04.820these are not blue-collar workers who uh these are not mobsters jewish mobsters during world
00:25:11.740war ii before world war ii beat the hell out of nazis in new york and chicago and la they broke
00:25:18.760up their meetings american jews are not like that anymore they were for a short time and they don't
00:25:26.160exist uh so in fact the the subtitle of the book defeating those who want us dead is where is it
00:25:35.820Oh, yes. David didn't defeat Goliath with a tennis racket. It didn't happen.
00:25:42.040So to that point, I mean, you've served in the IDF, so you're obviously well aware of how powerful the Israeli military is in kinetic wars.
00:25:53.640And I've always wondered, I wonder if you have an insight on this. I don't think Jews in general, and certainly Israelis in particular, are as good in the war of information as they are in the kinetic wars. Why? Is that a fair statement? And if so, why?0.78
00:26:15.560Well, when I was in Israel, I was asked by an inter-ministerial committee, I think it was the foreign ministry and the tourism ministry, to help them with suggestions for a new motto to bring Jews to Israel.
00:26:36.220Because right now, Jews are the smallest group coming to Israel. It's mostly evangelical Christians from around the world.
00:26:45.560And people who made a wrong turn instead of going to Italy, they came to Israel by mistake.
00:26:51.200So I suggested to them, see Israel while it exists.
00:27:06.500Israelis are good at one thing, which is surviving.1.00
00:27:10.960They're not good at selling themselves.1.00
00:27:13.760Right. And perhaps we can't be both. American Jews are great at selling themselves. And what's very interesting about it is their attempts to sell themselves is always the same.
00:27:27.820They take out full page ads in The New York Times, which is not yet a Sturmer, but it's on its way.
00:28:31.400But in any case, I like what you said about sort of the American Jews are nice
00:28:37.240because I could take that exact same descriptor and apply it to academics.
00:28:42.140And so one of the things that I always lament about the archetype of the academic is that just be nice, be polite, be diplomatic, cross your legs in a really cute, effeminate way, but don't be like Gad Saad, because Gad Saad, yeah, he might be a fancy professor, but he's vulgar, right?
00:29:06.480He uses jokes. He's a satirist. He makes fun of people. He's mean on social media. And of course,
00:29:13.460they don't understand that that's not because I'm somehow mean in my disposition. I'm actually
00:29:18.500very warm and affable. But different ecosystems require different modalities of communication.
00:29:25.760So I can be brash and a brawler and a honey badger when need be. And I could be professorial
00:29:32.740and pontificate when I'm in the right but professors are not like that that's why I call them0.98
00:29:38.000the invertebrate castrati they have no spine and they have no testicles is there a way for us to0.97
00:29:46.920inject them with some kind of magic elixir that can make them grow a pair no okay mic got really0.61
00:29:56.840No, in one word. And if it does happen, it will be miraculous. So I see, first of all, any society that is anti-Semitic and becomes anti-Semitic is going to be like all those countries that call themselves the Democratic Republic of.
00:30:23.220Yeah. As soon as as soon as it's called the Democratic Republic of Zaire or the Congo, you know, it's neither democratic nor a republic. So this is. Are you OK?0.55
00:30:36.640Yeah, I'm OK. Sorry about that. Go ahead.
00:30:38.160Okay. So we have this problem. And there was a guy named Mayor Kahana, who 30 years ago started something called the Jewish Defense League. And he was 30 years ahead of his time.
00:31:00.260uh will jews stand up on their hind legs and fight back will they simply collapse0.91
00:31:09.740my theory is that it will go one of two ways either uh jews in america will do that which0.83
00:31:18.960is unlikely in my estimation or uh we will have a situation where american jews will
00:33:14.200because they don't like Trump and they certainly don't like
00:33:19.600Momdani-ism or the El-Sayed syndrome or psychosis.
00:33:28.560And so we actually went through the list of candidates here in New York
00:33:34.020and they picked them according to how bad they are.
00:33:39.460You know, the democracy is often called the making the choice between the the better of two awful alternatives.
00:33:46.400Right. So I don't know. I really don't know what's going to happen.
00:33:51.600But I do know that there is there is no sense for American Jews or any others to spend their time wondering why anti-Semites don't like them.
00:34:07.380And it is absolutely crazy to do that. It is baked into Christianity. And of course, it is a feature of Islam. And I, actually, you got time for another joke?
00:34:23.200Okay. So two Jews are walking down the street in, well, we can make it Montreal, if you like. And one says to the other, $3,600. $3,600 is what I need. And his friend says, you know, Morty, I don't have it.0.99
00:34:44.560And he says, yeah, I know you don't have it, but that's all I need.
00:34:48.460I have a million dollars in Christmas toys tied up in the port, and I need $3,600 to get it out.
00:34:55.960And if I don't get it, I'll go bankrupt.
00:41:17.420Well, I always tell people, I mean, you live in New York, I say, how many people did it take to alter the skyline of New York? Was it 190 million terrorists? Was it 190,000 terrorists? Was it 1,000? Oh, no, it was only 19 terrorists who woke up that morning and thought, there is no better trajectory for me than to fly these planes into these buildings. And therefore, forevermore, our lives have been changed from these 19 committed guys.
00:41:46.800Same thing applies within the university ecosystem. You don't need every single person to be a blue haired walkster to create an environment where most people are so terrified that they self censor. You just need a small minority of real loud mouth to keep everybody in check.
00:42:05.140I'll tell you a story I haven't told publicly, but I'm willing. Where is it? Oh, yes. So here's a book. I'm selling books now.
00:42:16.500Yes. No, it's not important. I want to get to this because it is important. It says here, the lie is what great fiction is all about. Stephen King. And on this one, The Siege of Tel Aviv, Hesh Kestin's novel is scarier than anything Stephen King ever wrote. And then the fun begins as Israel fights back. Stephen King.
00:42:44.060Yes. So that was wonderful. And Steve was a great friend. He pushed my books as best he could. I'd never known him. He read one of my books and then he got in touch with me.
00:42:55.420A wonderful guy, as a result of this, I went to him and I said, Steve, with your clout, you can actually turn this around and get me uncancelled.
00:43:17.640In the same way that one man was able to defeat McCarthy in the Senate.
00:43:25.420okay uh he said senator have you have you no shame and then okay uh unfortunately steve said
00:43:36.120look i'm afraid of those people i don't want to have anything to do with it please take my name
00:43:42.540off your books uh can i can i say something about stephen king that won't upset you or
00:43:50.980can i speak freely yeah please i love him he's a great guy okay well he's a great guy except that
00:43:56.960if you follow him on social media i mean i don't follow him but i see his stuff he could arguably
00:44:03.100be the biggest trump derangement syndrome guy in the history of the world and i mean he's got a lot
00:44:09.100of competitors in terms of trump derangement syndrome so for me it's very difficult to reconcile
00:44:14.560that you could be clearly he's a brilliant, you know, writer who's been incredibly successful.
00:44:21.320And yet at the same time, he is so unhinged in his hatred for Trump. And don't get me wrong,
00:44:28.100I can completely understand why people might have an aversion to Trump, whether it be his
00:44:32.900personal style, whether it be we can debate his policies. But you certainly, there is no rational
00:44:40.440reason that Stephen King should be sitting in his house in Maine and spending 99 percent of his
00:44:47.300waking life, you know, screaming about Trump. And so I'm perhaps not surprised that he asked you
00:44:53.920that. Am I being too unfair towards him? No, you're being you're you're you're it's 2020 vision.
00:45:00.780That's what it is. And the fact is that the Stephen Kings of the world are only doing what the members of the Soviet Writers Union did with regard to my favorite writer, who is Isaac Babel.
00:45:21.540Isaac Babel was a great Jewish-Russian novelist. He even wrote a book called Red Cavalry. He rode with the Red Army. He was a great Russian patriot.
00:45:38.300And in 1934, 33, 34, Stalin decided that he was a cosmopolitan Jew and nobody should publish his books.
00:45:53.820And he was thrown out of the Writers' Union, which was the only way to get published.
00:46:00.000And his great statement of the time was that he is, as a writer, he is a specialist in the literature of silence.
00:46:10.880OK. And some seven years later or six years later, he was absolutely silenced by Stalin, who murdered him.
00:46:23.320OK. Along with other writers and artists of all kinds, mostly Jews.0.69
00:46:28.420So I don't see that as as a failing. What I do see is the possibility of enlightening the vast majority of Americans, right, left, center, vegetarian, gay, whatever they whatever they are.
00:46:48.380And I want to do and I'm doing it now with the help of my son, Ross, who is helping provide access to the finance.
00:47:00.780And my daughter, who is a Hollywood producer of great experience, we're going to make a movie, hopefully in Israel, of The Lie, which tells the story very briefly of an Israeli attorney who is famous or infamous for defending Islamic terrorists in Israeli courts.
00:47:30.780she becomes something somewhat different
00:47:59.18070 percent of what we know we know from movies i believe that number one hollywood
00:48:09.120has gone the way of stephen king clearly okay and number two uh movies are still there as a tool
00:48:17.180and we know that because in 1960 there was a movie called exodus which did you ever see it okay i did
00:48:24.220Wasn't it a great movie, but it starred Paul Newman, okay, as a Sabra, as the most glamorous and sexy hero of a movie.
00:48:35.200And it made Israel the heroic nation that it was and is, okay?0.57
00:48:42.720And it turned around American public opinion that had been steered by the oil-soaked U.S. State Department, oil-drunk U.S. State Department.
00:49:03.140And the movie was popular around the world for the same reason.
00:49:06.320I believe that the right movies made about Israel that are not propaganda, that do not say love us, we're so nice, that show us for what we are, which is tough, brave and idealistic people.
00:49:25.200I believe that those movies are going to have a chance at turning American public opinion around.
00:49:33.480Now, American public opinion is right now steered by a small minority of, what do you want to call it, turncoats.
00:49:45.960They used to call them in Germany, they used to call them watermelon people.0.56
00:52:18.940And I should mention, your son, in pitching the idea that we should chat, had said that my dad is possibly the most charismatic guy you'll ever meet.
00:53:17.060Unfortunately, it was in Ann Arbor, a university town.
00:53:21.820So anyway, the judge decided he didn't want trouble, and that was it.
00:53:27.900Anyway, the thing is, we are in a crucible situation.
00:53:33.820And it has, to me, to my mind, it has less to do with the Jews specifically than it does the sanity, the life, and the vigor of the American Republic.0.91
00:53:55.940Now, I know that you come from the People's Republic of Canada, and I think that's already fallen by the wayside.0.94
00:54:08.180And the fact is that Europe, which in many places, is already 10% Muslim.0.99
00:54:16.300Sweden has, as far as I know, now the highest crime rate in Europe.0.97
00:54:22.360But that's only because the Swedes were not welcoming enough to the noble, peaceful Muslims.0.99
00:54:29.100Had they been more welcoming, then the Muslims wouldn't have been forced to gang rape them.0.99
00:54:45.840It's not common in Turkey, oddly, because the Turks who make up most of the Muslims are far less anti-Semitic than their prime minister in Ankara.
00:55:07.040Okay. But right now, we have a chance. Australia has gone. Canada has gone. The U.S. may be the last bastion of true, noble democracy.
00:55:22.140And forgive me for interrupting you, to your point, and I don't mean to be plugging my current position, as you may know, I hold the professorship right now at the Declaration of Independence Center for the Study of American Freedom at Ole Miss, precisely for the reasons that you said, which is there is a strong revival of this sense of the need to defend American exceptionalism in the university.
00:55:52.140in the South, University of Tennessee,
00:55:54.620University of Florida, University of Texas,
00:55:58.100Austin, University of Austin, Ole Miss.0.97
01:00:18.260Instead, I gave it to a friend of mine who ran a small underground newspaper in Philadelphia, and he ran it on the cover, and he had trouble.
01:00:30.060But the fact is, this is nothing new, this insidious attempt to do the right thing so that you don't see the end, which is suicide.
01:00:48.260in your term. Exactly. Wow. Now, do you, do you see 40, 50 years ago, would you be able now have
01:00:57.320you gone to see through the internet archives, if you can access that piece when it ran in the
01:01:04.820other underground? I think it was, I think I have a copy. But I think it's, it's pre internet. So
01:01:11.340almost everything that that was published, unless it was published in a major