The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - April 19, 2026


Holding a Teacher Accountable for Spewing Nonsense About ICE and the Holocaust (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_986)

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Length

6 minutes

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Word count

873

Sentence count

37

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Misogyny

2

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Toxicity

2

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Hate speech

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A teacher in a Canadian high school compared ICE's removal of illegal migrants to the holocaust, and why it's a bad idea. Gatsad shares his own experience with a similar teacher, and explains why teachers have a duty to speak out against such ideas.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Hi everybody, this is Gatsad. Many of you send me emails asking me how you can get involved
00:00:06.700 in the battle of ideas, how you can contribute to your children not being
00:00:13.440 indoctrinated by all the parasitic nonsense and the suicidal empathy and so on.
00:00:20.040 Well, there is no magic recipe other than to actually get involved, to be vigilant
00:00:24.560 in terms of what your children are learning in school
00:00:28.340 and when appropriate to weigh in.
00:00:33.180 Some of you might remember that several years ago
00:00:36.560 when one of our children was still in,
00:00:39.720 well, both were in elementary school,
00:00:42.660 my daughter had come home and said that her science teacher
00:00:47.160 had as sort of her avatar or something, BLM. 0.77
00:00:51.600 This was during the BLM craze.
00:00:53.200 And I had written then to the principal saying, look, people can hold political positions and they can espouse them freely, but there are constraints as to when they can do so when they are pursuing pedagogic responsibilities. 0.87
00:01:14.460 And so a science teacher should not be espousing her political positions using her science
00:01:25.580 portal to elementary school teachers, students. 1.00
00:01:29.400 And of course, that proved to be an effective strategy in getting this ideologue masquerading 1.00
00:01:38.560 as a teacher to stop her behavior.
00:01:40.700 I was vigilant and I took action.
00:01:42.500 So today I wanted to talk to you about another such situation. This is in high school. My daughter told me that in a class in sound engineering, the teacher in that class, as part of Holocaust remembrance, was saying that what had happened at the Holocaust is not unlike what's happening with ICE deporting.
00:02:12.500 uh the illegal migrants that have entered the united states illegally this is exactly
00:02:19.320 you know a reasonable comparison with the holocaust and so i heard that and i decided to
00:02:26.500 write to the school i wrote to the principal the two vice principals and to the teacher herself
00:02:33.620 i won't read their name but i'll read you the the email and i again i do this because i want
00:02:38.360 to embolden you to actually participate. Don't say, ah, well, you know, maybe my student will
00:02:44.940 get a bad grade in the class or, you know, my voice won't matter. The ideologues that are
00:02:50.740 poisoning the minds of your kids are doing so precisely under the assumption that you'll be 0.97
00:02:57.320 too apathetic, too cowardly to ever pay attention and then take the proper action. So here we go. 0.97
00:03:04.880 uh the subject heading is on comparing ice's removal of illegal migrants to the holocaust
00:03:11.900 dear so-and-so i hope that this email finds you all well i recently heard from various
00:03:18.220 independent sources students and parents that in a recent sound engineering class mrs so-and-so
00:03:24.560 compared the activities of ice in seeking to deport illegal migrants from the u.s including
00:03:30.300 violent criminals to the realities of the Holocaust. If any of you are familiar with
00:03:35.220 my professorial work, you'd know that I am an absolutist when it comes to freedom of speech.
00:03:39.720 This, however, does not imply that teachers have carte blanche in espousing positions that are
00:03:45.680 astoundingly false, if not deeply offensive. The Holocaust involved the industrial-scale
00:03:51.040 extermination of six million Jews and arguably the greatest crime against humanity that the 0.91
00:03:56.160 world has ever known. To compare this to ISIS actions in seeking to remove illegal migrants
00:04:04.140 is bewildering. History matters. Facts matter. Truth matters. I'm involved in innumerable policy 0.96
00:04:14.120 debates as a professor and public intellectual. That said, when I put on my professorial hat
00:04:21.440 in the classroom, I do not allow my personal political preferences to interfere with my
00:04:26.740 pedagogic duties, nor do I espouse positions that are breathtakingly offensive and perfectly
00:04:32.760 incorrect. Mrs. So-and-so has every right to dislike ICE, albeit it is unclear why a teacher
00:04:40.400 of sound engineering in Canada is discussing ICE's policies. She has every right to publicly
00:04:47.560 proclaim her positions, albeit her pedagogic responsibilities should cause her to refrain
00:04:54.440 from comparing the roundup of illegal migrants in the U.S. to the extermination of six million
00:05:01.820 people. If the goal of last week's class activities was to remember the Holocaust,
00:05:08.160 I'm afraid that drawing such insulting comparisons is deeply injurious, especially when one is tasked
00:05:17.060 with forming young and malleable minds i assure you that many students and some parents felt
00:05:24.340 extremely insulted by this dreadful comparison respectfully gs right i hope you'll agree it was
00:05:32.620 a measured letter but it now of course maybe receiving this letter from me undoubtedly if i
00:05:39.980 can be presumptuous they probably know who i am they might take the letter a bit more seriously
00:05:46.020 because they know that I have several possible modes of communication at my disposal.
00:05:52.400 But the point is, you simply holding them accountable, saying,
00:05:57.760 look, not on my watch are you allowed to spew such nonsense,
00:06:03.860 will usually keep people, if not honest,
00:06:08.540 it will make them think the next time that they wish to engage
00:06:11.720 in these types of ideological pollution
00:06:16.500 and parasitic infestation of your children's mind.
00:06:20.440 Get involved.
00:06:22.040 Don't diffuse responsibility onto others.
00:06:24.220 There's nothing more honorable and evolutionary-based
00:06:28.840 than to protect your children from all sorts of threats,
00:06:33.380 including the threats that they receive from their teachers in class.
00:06:38.480 Take care, everybody. Cheers.