The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - February 21, 2026


Is Islam a Threat to Britain and the West？ Chatting with Piers Morgan (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_969)


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Dr. Gad Satt is a scholar at the Declaration of Independence Center for the Study of American Freedom at the University of Mississippi, and the author of Suicidal Empathy. In this episode, Dr. Satt and I discuss whether or not we have been invaded by radical Muslims.

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00:00:00.000 Well, joining me now is Dr. Gad Satt.
00:00:01.900 He's a scholar at the Declaration of Independence Center
00:00:03.980 for the Study of American Freedom at the University of Mississippi
00:00:06.720 and the author of forthcoming book, Suicidal Empathy.
00:00:10.220 Gad, great to have you back on Uncensored.
00:00:12.360 Thank you so much for having me, Pierce.
00:00:15.240 Look, this is obviously, as we've just heard, a very emotive issue.
00:00:18.920 It's a complex issue.
00:00:20.520 It's a multifaceted issue.
00:00:22.800 You know, there's no doubt there is an interesting comparison to be made
00:00:26.440 about sheer volumes, for example, of Muslims in the UK and US.
00:00:30.640 It's about the same number, around 4 to 5 million,
00:00:33.560 but the US is six, seven times as big as the UK.
00:00:36.580 So clearly, we have a lot more Muslims in the UK.
00:00:39.200 We have a tiny fraction of America's Jewish population.
00:00:43.340 I think America has 7, 8 million.
00:00:45.120 I think it is.
00:00:46.040 In America, we have about 250,000.
00:00:48.520 So they're right there.
00:00:49.640 Just statistically, we have a very different setup
00:00:52.840 in terms of Muslim and Jewish populations of our respective countries.
00:00:57.680 But in terms of this whole debate,
00:01:00.780 fuelled a lot by people of the conservative right in America,
00:01:04.060 that Britain has been invaded by radical Muslims. 0.99
00:01:07.100 Megyn Kelly used that phrase last week with me. 0.97
00:01:09.880 And we've lost control to radical Muslims. 1.00
00:01:12.900 I just see no evidence that that is remotely true.
00:01:16.160 That's not to say I don't think there have been big issues
00:01:19.780 with the huge influx of immigrants to the UK in the last 25 years.
00:01:24.800 That is indisputable.
00:01:26.260 It's gone way too far.
00:01:27.860 We lost control of our general immigration policy.
00:01:31.220 But that doesn't mean we've lost control of the country 0.71
00:01:33.740 to radical Muslims, in my estimation.
00:01:38.460 Look, if you take any disease, say diabetes,
00:01:41.720 when you're first diagnosed with it,
00:01:43.300 we're not going to amputate your leg tomorrow.
00:01:46.520 But we know that there is a trajectory
00:01:48.400 whereby we can predict that within a certain time period,
00:01:51.900 things will go wrong if you don't resolve your insulin issues, right?
00:01:56.300 So it is absolutely true, you're right,
00:01:59.380 that today Britain remains a non-Muslim country.
00:02:03.640 But if we continue along the same patterns,
00:02:07.140 will it improve or will it worsen
00:02:09.600 if the current immigration policies remain the same?
00:02:12.140 And let me draw an analogy.
00:02:14.220 There are currently 56 countries that are part of the OIC,
00:02:18.440 the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
00:02:20.660 Each of those countries, once upon a time,
00:02:23.320 started with zero Muslims.
00:02:25.880 Then you close your eyes and you open your eyes,
00:02:28.620 and in many of those countries,
00:02:30.300 you have 0% non-Muslims.
00:02:33.240 So for example, Egypt used to be a largely Coptic country,
00:02:37.920 Coptic Christian.
00:02:39.000 Today it's 10% Cops.
00:02:40.500 My own country within my own lifetime
00:02:43.540 used to be majority Christian country.
00:02:46.520 Today it's majority Muslim country.
00:02:48.880 So it's not as though everywhere that Islam goes, 0.96
00:02:52.500 they just engage in an orgiastic killing of everybody. 0.96
00:02:55.840 But in one way or another, once Islam enters, 1.00
00:02:59.500 the goal is for you to Islamize the society. 1.00
00:03:02.440 And it doesn't take a fancy professor
00:03:04.200 to understand those historical patterns.
00:03:08.120 I mean, it's interesting what you say.
00:03:11.760 I would argue back at that,
00:03:14.020 that the vast majority of Muslims I know in the UK
00:03:17.540 are very happy to be part of a multicultural Britain
00:03:21.980 in which they assimilate quite happily
00:03:24.000 with their neighbours of all types,
00:03:26.540 of all creeds and races and religions and so on.
00:03:29.720 I just don't see this hotbed of radicalism.
00:03:32.760 Now, I would caveat that by saying
00:03:35.000 that most of the terrorism in the UK this century,
00:03:38.660 for example, has been perpetrated by radical Islamists.
00:03:42.640 That is indisputable.
00:03:44.460 But it's been sporadic.
00:03:47.260 And I think that's important to stress.
00:03:49.820 It's not something that's happening like it was
00:03:51.800 with the IRA, for example, in the 70s and 80s
00:03:53.980 on a regular basis.
00:03:55.340 It's happening sporadically.
00:03:57.340 So there are an influx of some radical Islamists
00:04:01.940 who perpetrate bad things.
00:04:04.040 That's indisputable.
00:04:05.420 But that doesn't mean we're a country
00:04:07.320 under the control of radical Islam.
00:04:10.280 Yeah, so let me,
00:04:11.460 I think I might have mentioned this stat last time,
00:04:13.660 but let me mention it again,
00:04:14.740 and then I'll draw another analogy too
00:04:16.540 in pathology, in pathogen studies.
00:04:19.700 There have been, this is a lower estimate,
00:04:21.940 there are other databases that place
00:04:23.560 what I'm about to say at a much higher number.
00:04:26.400 Since 9-11 alone,
00:04:28.380 there have been nearly 48,000 Islamic terror attacks
00:04:33.520 in nearly 70 countries, right?
00:04:37.240 48,000.
00:04:38.360 If you take all of the other 10,000 religions combined,
00:04:42.140 it doesn't add up to the number of fingers
00:04:44.140 that I have on my two fingers.
00:04:46.160 So the fact that you and I could fully agree
00:04:48.740 that there are millions of Muslims
00:04:51.680 who don't do this doesn't negate the fact
00:04:54.840 that if you allow Islam to take a foothold in a place, 0.99
00:04:59.300 we know what the outcome will be.
00:05:01.160 So now I'm going to draw the analogy
00:05:02.520 that I promised earlier.
00:05:04.460 The shingles virus is something that you and I,
00:05:07.380 given that we're roughly the same age,
00:05:09.020 is something that we should be concerned about.
00:05:11.020 It lays dormant in you for 20, 30, 40 years,
00:05:15.440 and then there is a catalyst
00:05:18.080 that then can trigger the shingles virus
00:05:21.280 and it results in a very uncomfortable situation for you,
00:05:24.200 even though it lay dormant in you for 40 years.
00:05:28.280 So when Islam is only 1% of the population,
00:05:31.560 or two or three,
00:05:33.060 they don't yet have the numbers
00:05:34.700 to be able to do the things
00:05:36.380 that would otherwise worry you.
00:05:38.060 But once they become 20%, 30%, 40%,
00:05:41.720 then we can exactly predict the trajectory
00:05:44.980 as we would diabetes.
00:05:46.600 So again, you have to have the imagination
00:05:49.920 to extrapolate into the future,
00:05:52.920 and then hopefully, inshallah,
00:05:55.600 the light will come to you.
00:05:57.600 Right, but there'll be lots of people 0.97
00:05:59.120 who hear you compare Islam to a disease 0.95
00:06:02.740 who will find that incredibly offensive. 0.90
00:06:05.680 And there'll be many millions of Muslims in the UK
00:06:08.740 because statistically,
00:06:10.700 the absolutely vast majority of Muslims in the UK
00:06:14.180 do not commit radical acts of terrorism.
00:06:17.480 So 99% at least are living in peaceful harmony
00:06:22.360 and not engaging in this.
00:06:24.300 And in fact, a tiny fraction
00:06:25.660 of British Pakistani Muslim men, for example,
00:06:29.140 were engaged in the grooming gangs,
00:06:31.540 albeit their behaviour was disgusting
00:06:33.460 and reprehensible on the cover-up was just as bad.
00:06:36.480 So my point being that, you know,
00:06:38.720 as I read out earlier to the panel,
00:06:40.800 the vast majority of sex attacks in the UK 0.92
00:06:43.800 are still perpetrated by white men, for example, right? 0.95
00:06:47.160 So, you know, statistics can be twisted
00:06:49.120 any way people want, 0.97
00:06:50.740 but this categorisation of Islam as a disease 0.90
00:06:53.360 in a country like the UK, 0.77
00:06:55.640 I just don't sense that.
00:06:57.920 Of course, by the way,
00:06:59.240 I don't know if you're doing this willfully or not, 0.62
00:07:01.080 I'm not categorising Islam as a disease,
00:07:03.160 I'm drawing an analogy. 0.84
00:07:04.280 The definition of an analogy is to draw
00:07:07.100 exactly a comparative mechanism
00:07:10.040 of how things might proliferate.
00:07:11.820 So I'm not saying Islam or Muslim... 0.71
00:07:13.400 Yeah, but you were directly... 0.80
00:07:14.340 Hang on, gag, gag. 0.96
00:07:15.300 Let's not be disingenuous.
00:07:16.420 You were directly comparing it
00:07:18.800 to the impact of having a disease that spreads.
00:07:22.300 No, what I'm saying is that the phenomenon,
00:07:26.760 whatever it may be,
00:07:28.220 may lie dormant until there is a tipping point
00:07:31.900 that serves as a catalyst.
00:07:33.300 So if you don't like me comparing it to Islam,
00:07:35.600 if we were to have millions and millions
00:07:38.600 of Orthodox Jews that come into an area,
00:07:43.040 there will be a number
00:07:44.580 when the likelihood of teaching evolution
00:07:47.680 in the schools
00:07:48.700 where there are tons of Orthodox Jews
00:07:50.880 would reduce
00:07:52.440 because they don't believe
00:07:53.660 in the theory of evolution.
00:07:55.360 So in this case, 0.99
00:07:56.180 I'm not arguing that Jews are a disease, 0.99
00:07:58.220 I'm drawing an analogy, 0.99
00:07:59.360 but let me come back to the point of,
00:08:01.300 but most Muslims are lovely. 0.85
00:08:02.720 Most men do not commit rape. 0.94
00:08:06.860 We can agree on that.
00:08:07.980 And certainly the statistics would be no different
00:08:09.980 than saying most Muslims don't commit terrorism. 1.00
00:08:13.260 But if you and I have a daughter
00:08:15.260 and that daughter is about to cross a dark alley 0.99
00:08:20.220 where there are a few men that are loitering,
00:08:23.660 would we tell her,
00:08:25.420 sweetie, statistically,
00:08:26.920 most men are not going to be rapists.
00:08:29.460 So even though you're wearing
00:08:30.580 that really alluring miniskirt,
00:08:33.620 don't worry about it
00:08:35.100 because it's only a very small number
00:08:37.100 that will commit rape, right? 1.00
00:08:39.120 We wouldn't say that to them. 0.97
00:08:40.480 Or let me give you another analogy.
00:08:42.740 You and I have had young children.
00:08:45.680 Well, no, no, the analogy I would use,
00:08:47.800 yeah, but Gadd, Gadd, hang on, hang on.
00:08:49.400 Gadd, my response to that would be
00:08:51.380 that, you know, statistically,
00:08:53.260 83% chance that you'll be attacked by a white man, right?
00:08:57.040 So if you want to get into numbers and probability,
00:09:01.020 yes, I would not want, I have a daughter,
00:09:02.800 I would not want my daughter
00:09:03.720 to walk across a park late at night,
00:09:05.980 but actually, statistically,
00:09:07.920 she's far more likely to be attacked by a white man.
00:09:11.660 That is just a reality in the UK.
00:09:14.160 That's why, that's why,
00:09:15.580 well, that's a statistical reality.
00:09:17.680 So the framing of this debate,
00:09:19.560 when people try and say,
00:09:20.760 well, look, you've been invaded 0.99
00:09:22.180 and overrun by radical Muslims, 1.00
00:09:24.280 they all hate women, 1.00
00:09:25.420 therefore it's become a very dangerous place for women 1.00
00:09:28.540 because of radical Muslims, 0.97
00:09:30.180 I simply throw back statistics, 0.97
00:09:31.800 which is 83% of serious crime in the UK 0.92
00:09:34.640 remained perpetrated today by white men. 0.91
00:09:39.160 Pierce, 96% of Scotland is white.
00:09:43.020 Therefore, obviously, 0.53
00:09:44.220 most of the rapes that are committed in Scotland 0.99
00:09:46.600 are going to be committed by white men. 0.99
00:09:49.100 It's this little thing called per capita adjustment, right?
00:09:52.500 I want to draw another analogy for you
00:09:54.020 because you didn't like the rape one.
00:09:56.040 When you and I were raising our children
00:09:58.100 and had to look for a babysitter,
00:09:59.760 did we typically go and look for 35-year-old men
00:10:03.860 as babysitters,
00:10:04.920 or did we look for a 15-year-old teenage girl? 0.84
00:10:08.140 Because we recognize that statistically speaking,
00:10:11.620 15-year-old girls are much less likely
00:10:14.380 to molest children than 35-year-old boys, men. 0.77
00:10:19.180 Now, that doesn't take away from the fact
00:10:21.100 that it is exactly true
00:10:23.400 that most 35-year-old men will never molest,
00:10:26.940 but life is about navigating statistical regularities.
00:10:31.680 The one who understands those regularities 0.94
00:10:34.180 comes out on the other side without being raped. 0.59
00:10:37.460 The one who lives in Unicornia 0.55
00:10:39.600 will wake up one day 0.99
00:10:41.220 while he's being put down on the floor being gang raped. 0.94
00:10:44.260 So statistics matter. 0.99
00:10:46.540 Most Muslims are perfectly lovely.
00:10:49.560 Islam is not necessarily congruent with Western values.
00:10:53.540 Those two statements are perfectly consistent with each other.
00:10:59.280 Except I would come back to this.
00:11:01.580 Statistically, there are, I think,
00:11:03.300 nearly 5 million Muslims living in the UK,
00:11:05.420 a population of 67 million.
00:11:07.700 And there was an absurd response last week
00:11:09.800 because Megyn Kelly, after our interview blew up,
00:11:13.180 posted to me on X
00:11:14.780 that the most popular boy's name in the country
00:11:17.060 last year was Mohammed, right? 0.98
00:11:19.380 And this was immediately seized on as evidence
00:11:21.480 we've been overrun by radical Muslims. 1.00
00:11:24.060 Well, having the name Mohammed 1.00
00:11:25.700 does not make you a radical Muslim, one.
00:11:28.740 Secondly, it is very, very... 0.98
00:11:31.100 As everybody knows who's got half a brain, 0.99
00:11:34.040 it is very common for Muslim men 0.91
00:11:36.220 to include the name Mohammed
00:11:38.280 in the name of their sons, right?
00:11:39.980 It's a very common thing.
00:11:41.320 It's not as common for white guys like me
00:11:44.280 to choose the same name for all our sons, right?
00:11:47.280 So Noah was the second most popular,
00:11:49.520 which is a popular Jewish name, for example.
00:11:52.220 People, it happens to be in vogue.
00:11:53.680 I think it's the most popular name
00:11:55.160 in the US at the moment is Noah.
00:11:57.160 It wouldn't be most popular in the UK
00:11:59.300 because of Jews, because there are so few Jews.
00:12:02.200 However, it's not surprising to me
00:12:04.820 that Mohammed tops the list of boys' names 0.99
00:12:07.360 simply because so many Muslim families 1.00
00:12:10.220 like to call their sons Mohammed, right? 0.59
00:12:12.600 So these statistics get seized on and twisted
00:12:15.820 to create a false narrative
00:12:17.840 that because the most popular boy's name
00:12:20.300 in the country is Mohammed, 1.00
00:12:22.440 even though the numbers are pretty low,
00:12:25.320 that that means we're being overrun 0.98
00:12:27.640 by radical Muslims. 1.00
00:12:28.620 I just find that a ludicrous, ridiculous, 0.99
00:12:32.620 you know, journey to go on intellectually 0.96
00:12:36.260 because it makes no sense to me.
00:12:38.780 Can I take another shot at, you know,
00:12:41.820 navigating through statistics?
00:12:43.040 If I told you today that there is millions of guys
00:12:49.780 named Moshe that are moving into Brighton,
00:12:53.400 would that increase or decrease the likelihood
00:12:56.840 of there being a greater preponderance
00:12:59.380 of kosher places?
00:13:01.200 All other things equal,
00:13:02.660 you would argue there'd be an increase
00:13:04.660 because since we have brains
00:13:07.320 that engage in causal reasoning,
00:13:09.460 I would say since Moshe is a prototypical Jewish name 0.95
00:13:13.300 and since many Jews wish to adhere to kosher laws,
00:13:18.040 I can undoubtedly, unequivocally,
00:13:20.820 unassailably say that if there are more Moshe's 0.83
00:13:24.440 in Brighton, there's more likely to be pressure
00:13:27.160 to have kosher food.
00:13:28.940 But there'll be other Moshe's that completely decide 1.00
00:13:32.200 to eat a shrimp soup, right?
00:13:34.280 So I am Jewish.
00:13:35.300 I'm very much steeped in my Jewish heritage.
00:13:38.400 And yet I eat bacon.
00:13:41.040 It's not because I practice a more gentle form of Judaism.
00:13:45.240 It's because I choose to ignore those parts
00:13:47.600 that don't adhere to my daily lives.
00:13:49.900 So most Muslims are lovely
00:13:52.140 because they are innately lovely.
00:13:54.720 They are nice Jews and mean Jews.
00:13:56.840 We're talking about Islam.
00:13:58.960 Does Islam consist of a set of codified doctrines 0.96
00:14:04.980 that are consistent with the foundational Western values?
00:14:09.700 If the answer to that, Pierce, is yes,
00:14:12.460 then we should quickly accelerate Islamic immigration 1.00
00:14:15.680 because we're going to be enriched.
00:14:17.740 If the answer is perhaps no,
00:14:20.300 then maybe you need to put on your statistical reasoning hat.
00:14:23.280 Well, my statistical reasoning hat says
00:14:26.800 how much inter-religious warfare
00:14:29.680 do we see on the streets of my country?
00:14:32.520 Elon Musk, you know, I know someone you know well,
00:14:35.300 constantly fuels this sense of
00:14:37.220 there's going to be an imminent civil war 0.95
00:14:39.380 because of the Muslim problem. 1.00
00:14:41.020 But I see a lot of Hindus over here.
00:14:44.220 I see a lot of Muslims.
00:14:45.880 I see a lot of Christians.
00:14:47.500 I see all sorts of different people
00:14:49.560 of different colours, creeds, religions, and so on.
00:14:52.460 And I don't see warfare everywhere.
00:14:55.620 I don't see civil war erupting everywhere.
00:14:58.880 I don't recognise the kind of depiction of my country
00:15:01.580 which Elon has.
00:15:03.000 And he's a guy who's barely set foot in my country,
00:15:05.760 as far as I'm aware, in the last few decades.
00:15:08.080 So I don't know what he's basing it on
00:15:09.860 other than this is a narrative
00:15:11.720 that's been fuelled and picked up
00:15:13.140 by a lot of people in America.
00:15:15.440 And I say to Elon,
00:15:17.000 Elon's not even American himself.
00:15:19.200 He's an immigrant to the United States.
00:15:20.860 You know, there are 5 million Muslims in the US,
00:15:23.840 most of whom live perfectly, happily, and peacefully
00:15:26.960 amongst the communities they live in.
00:15:29.460 There's no Muslim problem in the US. 1.00
00:15:33.120 There's a Muslim radical terrorist extremist problem 1.00
00:15:37.180 of terrorists coming into the country 1.00
00:15:39.700 or perpetrating acts of terrorism
00:15:42.200 against Americans around the world.
00:15:44.260 Yes.
00:15:44.900 And that's why there's been fights against
00:15:46.700 Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and other terror groups.
00:15:49.300 But to somehow then say,
00:15:51.420 well, then all 5 million Muslim Americans 1.00
00:15:54.100 must be a danger to society would be ridiculous. 1.00
00:15:57.880 And I use the same argument to apply to Muslims in the UK. 0.98
00:16:02.260 Yeah, we've got nearly 5 million Muslims.
00:16:04.540 Actually, the vast majority are peaceful
00:16:07.500 and assimilate very well into our society
00:16:10.240 and live alongside Christians, Hindus, and the rest of it.
00:16:13.800 Why should I be particularly exercised
00:16:16.780 about the fact that their religion, Islam,
00:16:19.860 has different criteria and creed to my Catholicism, for example?
00:16:26.320 That's fine.
00:16:26.940 I can respect both.
00:16:28.240 But I don't respect radical Christians 1.00
00:16:30.480 and I don't respect radical Muslims 0.96
00:16:33.020 and I don't respect radical Hindus. 0.98
00:16:35.920 I don't respect radical people full stop. 0.99
00:16:38.800 They are dangerous.
00:16:40.340 Terrorism comes from people who get radicalised.
00:16:43.440 I just don't see in the UK
00:16:45.140 that we have a mass problem
00:16:47.480 with radical Muslims you've taken over the country. 1.00
00:16:50.380 I think it's bullshit. 1.00
00:16:52.200 Because the strategic template 1.00
00:16:54.920 on which Islam has operated 0.95
00:16:57.460 is when in the minority act meek
00:17:01.380 and like a victim,
00:17:02.980 but when in the majority smite at the neck 0.73
00:17:06.000 and show no mercy.
00:17:07.240 That's why I drew the earlier analogy with shingles.
00:17:09.820 It takes a tipping point in numbers
00:17:12.500 for some of the things
00:17:13.860 that you're not yet worried about
00:17:15.620 to materialise, right?
00:17:17.860 Lebanon was perfectly fine
00:17:19.980 until there was an infusion of PLO terrorists
00:17:23.400 and the demographics started shifting
00:17:26.340 and then it didn't go well.
00:17:27.920 That applies to the 56 countries
00:17:30.100 that I mentioned earlier.
00:17:31.380 You also mentioned, by the way,
00:17:32.740 there are no problems in the United States.
00:17:34.940 Well, why don't you go tell
00:17:36.520 some of the people who live in Dearborn
00:17:38.260 whether there are any problems
00:17:39.980 that are brewing in the horizon
00:17:41.460 or go tell the people who live in Minneapolis?
00:17:44.500 Again, it's a question of numbers.
00:17:46.720 And if I may, I'd like to flip it to you.
00:17:49.800 You're the host,
00:17:50.720 but if I can play host for a second,
00:17:52.980 what would be the pattern
00:17:55.000 that Piers Morgan would have to see
00:17:58.180 for him to say,
00:18:00.140 send Gadsad an email and say,
00:18:02.220 oops, Gadsad, I think you were onto something.
00:18:05.060 Just give me a sense of what the data
00:18:07.360 would need to look like
00:18:08.580 for you to be concerned.
00:18:11.220 I would have to see clear evidence
00:18:13.560 that we were getting overrun 0.98
00:18:14.940 by radical Muslims. 0.99
00:18:16.220 Not Muslims, radical Muslims 1.00
00:18:18.420 with radical ideas 0.99
00:18:19.700 that were fermented around violence.
00:18:21.960 If I saw genuine evidence
00:18:23.960 that that was becoming more widespread,
00:18:26.160 I would be seriously concerned.
00:18:28.140 I don't see it.
00:18:29.260 You know, I see it.
00:18:29.940 We were talking earlier about 85 Sharia councils
00:18:33.160 being set up
00:18:34.000 who operate amongst Muslim communities
00:18:36.260 up and down the country,
00:18:37.240 but they have no law under British law.
00:18:40.720 And therefore, I don't particularly...
00:18:42.880 Today they don't.
00:18:43.780 Forgive me for interrupting you.
00:18:44.800 Right.
00:18:45.140 So my point...
00:18:46.080 So here's my point, Gadsad.
00:18:47.520 I don't think that we should turn a blind eye
00:18:49.800 to potential issues.
00:18:51.480 I'm not saying some of the things
00:18:52.840 you've raised historically around the world
00:18:54.760 have not manifested themselves.
00:18:56.400 And I think it would be prudent
00:18:57.820 to listen to that.
00:18:59.700 You're a very wise man,
00:19:01.620 very knowledgeable.
00:19:02.460 I completely respect that.
00:19:04.260 I do think it would be prudent
00:19:05.660 of British governments, for example,
00:19:07.280 to take the potential issues here seriously.
00:19:10.940 But let's not get ahead of ourselves
00:19:12.920 and say we've been overrun 0.98
00:19:14.120 by radical Muslims. 0.95
00:19:15.620 Let's make sure we protect
00:19:17.060 our values in this country,
00:19:18.960 make sure that people
00:19:20.220 are genuinely assimilated,
00:19:21.840 and make sure if we sense
00:19:23.520 that there is a rising tide
00:19:25.180 of violent, radical extremism
00:19:28.300 from any part of our community,
00:19:30.540 that we stamp on it very quickly.
00:19:32.840 And that, I think,
00:19:33.940 would be a prudent way to deal
00:19:35.540 with a problem
00:19:36.560 that is not evident to me yet.
00:19:39.000 But as you say,
00:19:40.140 who can predict the future?
00:19:42.600 Gadsad, I'm going to leave you there.
00:19:43.520 Fascinating conversation.
00:19:44.860 I love having you on our Sensor.
00:19:46.300 Thank you very much.
00:19:48.160 Cheers.