The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - June 27, 2025


Is Islam Compatible with the West's Liberties and Freedoms？ (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_843)

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Dr. Gad Saad is a great friend of mine, visiting professor and global ambassador at Northwood University, and author of The Sad Truth About Happiness and the Parasitic Mind. In this episode, Dr. Saad joins me to talk about Islam and its relationship with Western values.

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00:00:00.000 Joining us now is Dr. Gad Saad, a great friend of mine, visiting professor and global ambassador
00:00:04.560 at Northwood University, author of The Sad Truth About Happiness and the Parasitic Mind.
00:00:10.020 Dr. Saad, great to see you.
00:00:12.100 How are you, sir?
00:00:13.460 So, Dr. Saad, I'm doing well. You were the first guest that we thought of, of someone
00:00:17.860 who could really speak truth to power, about what we're seeing in New York and a broader
00:00:22.440 takeover of the West by Islam. And I said something yesterday. I said, look, it doesn't 1.00
00:00:28.140 feel right or seem right that the West is quickly being taken over. Both London and New York
00:00:34.580 are going to have Muslim mayors and having third world immigration that has made that 0.91
00:00:38.720 possible. Dr. Saad, how should we think about all of this?
00:00:42.980 Look, Islam, like any ideology, has certain defining tenets, some of which might be perfectly 1.00
00:00:50.220 consistent with our values, but many of which, regrettably, are perfectly inconsistent with
00:00:55.760 our values. So, take, for example, Sharia law, which is Islamic law. It purports that
00:01:01.580 the severity of a punishment depends on the identity of the perpetrator and of the victim.
00:01:08.360 In that sense, it couldn't be any more antithetical to American jurisprudence, which basically says
00:01:14.100 that Lady Justice has to be blind. And so, the people who say, hey, you know, all religions 0.97
00:01:19.280 have good and bad. I mean, in a very idiotic sense, that's true. But, you know, Jains, people 1.00
00:01:26.800 who practice Jainism, are extremely pacifists, so much so that when they walk down the street,
00:01:33.180 they use a broom so that they don't inadvertently step on any ants. Regrettably, Islam is not as 1.00
00:01:40.240 peaceful as Jainism, and therefore, we must make sure to let in people who share our values.
00:01:45.860 But why is this so complicated? And so, why is it that secular Westerners, especially in New York,
00:01:55.360 feel, go out of their way to try to elect someone like Mamdani, who has, by no way whatsoever,
00:02:02.860 could you say this guy is a believer in Western values? What drives that?
00:02:07.820 So, I mean, there are several reasons, one of which is, so Islamophilia, the love of Islam,
00:02:15.580 stems from several, you know, parasitic ideas, one of which is that Islam, because it is in the 1.00
00:02:23.100 minority status in the West so far, it is viewed as the underdog. And of course, progressives with
00:02:29.840 their suicidal empathy love to view the underdog as downtrodden, and therefore, we need to protect it.
00:02:36.380 Of course, what they don't know is that Islam is the majority position in 56 countries that constitute
00:02:45.500 the Islamic organization, you know, the IOC, OIC, Organization of Islamic Cooperation. And so, therefore,
00:02:54.020 they have this reflex, right, that the noble Gazans are the sweet boys, the Israelis are the mean guys. 0.99
00:03:02.440 And so, that just comes from the reflexive bent of progressives to always go for the minority.
00:03:10.720 And so, what further about Islam do you wish or want Westerners to know about? Do you think that
00:03:18.160 Islam is compatible with Western civilization? 0.95
00:03:20.420 The short answer, no. Of course, millions of Muslims decide to ignore the, you know, the incongruent 1.00
00:03:31.760 elements of their religion. They're practicing cafeteria Islam, right? They're choosing the 1.00
00:03:36.000 parts that they agree with, and they're ignoring the parts that they don't agree with. But once Islam 0.98
00:03:41.300 becomes, never mind a majority, if it becomes a strong minority, we have 1400 years of history that
00:03:48.320 tells us what happens to all of the foundational values that we hold dearly in the West, right? I
00:03:53.740 mean, you don't have to, you know, believe me. You could just study history, right? I mean, almost every
00:03:59.740 single one of the 56 countries that I mentioned a few minutes ago started off with having zero Islam.
00:04:06.140 And then you close and open your eyes. Suddenly, it's 99.9% Islam. How did that happen? In some cases, 1.00
00:04:13.620 it takes five years for it to happen. In some cases, it takes 500 years to happen. But inshallah,
00:04:19.900 it will always happen. I'll mention one other thing. Many of your viewers may not know this.
00:04:24.820 Since 9-11 alone, Charlie, so that's 24 years, there have been 47,000 plus terror attacks committed
00:04:35.120 by Islamic terrorists in nearly 70 countries. And now there are multiple databases that you can use
00:04:41.720 to prove that this number is correct. 47,000 terror attacks. So that should give you a sense of
00:04:51.440 whether Islam is compatible with the West or not.
00:04:55.460 So why is it that so many Muslims are moving to Western countries? Is it just economics? Or is there 0.98
00:05:02.220 something more ideological at play here?
00:05:05.120 It's both. Of course, many Muslims have no interest in conquering anyone. And they want, 1.00
00:05:11.580 as you just said, exactly what you said, which is, I want better economic opportunities for me and my
00:05:17.540 children and so on. But the Muslim Brotherhood and many other Islamic theorists and scholars and
00:05:24.620 politicians have said that we will conquer the West through three means. And I hope that your
00:05:31.660 your listeners and viewers take note. Number one, we will conquer the West through the womb of our
00:05:38.360 women, right? So that's a demographic fertility battle. We will produce five children, you will 1.00
00:05:44.440 produce 1.2 children, and we will outbreed you. Number two, we will conquer the West through hijra. 1.00
00:05:50.940 Hijra is the Arabic word for immigration. And that's exactly what we do with our open border policies.
00:05:55.980 And number three, we will conquer the West by using your miserable freedoms and liberties against 0.88
00:06:03.020 you. They're screaming this out from the top of the mountain. And yet most Westerners choose to ignore
00:06:09.480 it, Charlie. It is so galling. It is so frustrating. I escaped that world 45 plus years ago. And here it is
00:06:16.780 now hunting me down 50 years later. And it's what can we do to fortify ourselves against this? And mass
00:06:27.300 immigration leads to bad policies. You become what you import. And I know that you're working on a book 1.00
00:06:32.800 called Suicidal Empathy. But help me further understand the the fortification strategy to help
00:06:41.500 prevent this. Well, demography is indeed destiny, right? I mean, a culture is defined by the values
00:06:51.160 that the majority of people share in that culture. Cultures are not all equal, right? Cultures that
00:06:57.540 throw gays off rooftops are not as good as cultures that don't. Cultures that don't engage in female 1.00
00:07:05.200 genital mutilation of their little girls are not as good as cultures that don't, and so on and so forth. 1.00
00:07:10.680 So cultures have values. Religions have values. It is perfectly reasonable for a host society to say
00:07:19.100 you're only welcome here as long as you completely reject some of the values that are antithetical to
00:07:27.040 ours. If yes, welcome in my brother. If no, stay from where you came from. I mean, it's as simple as
00:07:33.700 that. But again, Charlie, the reflex in the West, hence parasitic mind and suicidal empathy, people in
00:07:39.900 the West have been taught that it is gauche, it is callous to ever criticize someone's religion. And
00:07:46.140 that's what makes most Westerners so impotent to ever criticize Islam, because they say, well, you know,
00:07:52.560 I've got my religion, they have theirs, who am I to judge them? Well, you should judge if those values
00:07:58.360 are inconsistent with those that you hold dear. And people in the West assume that Western values are
00:08:04.860 universal, and they're not. What in particular makes Islamic values incongruent Western values? 0.93
00:08:10.760 What are the specifics, you would say? Well, there are many, but one of which, so look,
00:08:15.380 all Abrahamic faiths have a coalitional psychology, us versus them, right? The Jews say they are the 1.00
00:08:23.480 chosen people and they are the goys. The Christians say they are the ones who accept Jesus and are going to 1.00
00:08:29.180 heaven and the rest who are going to hell. The Muslims say that they are the believers and the kuffar, 1.00
00:08:34.520 the non-believers, which is kind of a derogatory term. But there is something unique in Islam in that
00:08:40.560 the doctrines of Islam spend an extraordinary amount of time being very concerned about those
00:08:48.940 that don't share their faith, right? So for example, Judaism is not a proselytizing religion.
00:08:54.520 That's why there are only 15 million Jews in the world. There are as many Jews today in the world 1.00
00:08:59.480 as there were at the start of the Holocaust, roughly. Totally. Okay. Whereas Muslims, in a sense, 1.00
00:09:05.440 it's the ultimate successful marketing strategy. That's such a good point.
00:09:09.820 In 1400 years, Charlie, they have nearly 2 billion people. So Islam is successful. Judaism sucks at 1.00
00:09:17.960 marketing itself. And so there are many elements within the contents of the doctrines of Islam 0.98
00:09:24.300 that make it uniquely dangerous. And again, this doesn't take away from the fact that most Muslims 1.00
00:09:30.300 are perfectly nice and sweet and peaceful. Of course. But where Islam goes, personal liberties die. 1.00
00:09:36.820 Well, and think about even within that statement, Dr. said, okay, they're peaceful and sweet because
00:09:42.880 we're comparing them to Western values. And so if you compare a Muslim to Muslim values, 0.78
00:09:51.160 they're sweet by our standard is what I'm saying. And so insofar that they will comply to the Western
00:09:58.020 standard, then fine, of course. But what is a good Muslim? In a Muslim standard, what does a good 1.00
00:10:06.480 Muslim look like? Well, certainly one, doctrinally speaking, is certainly one who is working to unify
00:10:16.520 the entire globe under the unifying flag of Allah, right? So that should give shivers down the spine 0.97
00:10:25.980 of most people. Look, Egypt used to be fully 100% Coptic Christian country. Fast forward many centuries,
00:10:35.580 it's now 10% Coptic. Lebanon during my lifetime, when I grew up in Lebanon was a majority Christian
00:10:43.100 country. Fast forward 45 years, it is a largely Muslim majority country. What happened to the 1.00
00:10:50.860 Syrian Christians? What happened to the Iraqi Christians? What happened to the Pakistani Christians?
00:10:56.740 So again, it's not as though Islam always goes into a place and decapitates everyone who's not Muslim,
00:11:03.800 but by one mean or another, once Islam takes a foothold somewhere, then the trajectory is very
00:11:11.560 clear. And so if we wish to have the United States become an Islamic countries, stay with the current 1.00
00:11:18.140 open border policies, and in 500 years, we'll all be named Muhammad. What a smart point that in the 0.99
00:11:26.220 Islamic texts, they spend so much time about people who do not share their values. Christianity
00:11:31.540 spends a fair amount of time of it, but nowhere near Islam, though. It doesn't seem there are like 0.97
00:11:37.420 direct calls in Islam of what to do for those that don't believe. And it's a very pernicious 1.00
00:11:47.260 preoccupation. We have Dr. Sad here, and I want Dr. Sad to react to the Limbaugh laws. Rush used to do
00:11:55.140 this with a cigar, and it was just so great. I want to play 526 and then let Dr. Sad just riff.
00:12:01.520 This is if Rush Limbaugh was king, and we should have listened to Rush. This was 20 years ago. 20 years
00:12:08.620 ago! I should get a hat. Rush was right about everything. Play cut 526.
00:12:15.400 Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it the Limbaugh laws.
00:12:20.640 First, you immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language. You have to be a 1.00
00:12:26.380 professional or an investor. No unskilled workers allowed. Also, there'll be no special bilingual
00:12:31.660 programs in the schools with the Limbaugh laws. No special ballots for elections. No government
00:12:35.880 business will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold 1.00
00:12:40.720 political office. If you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled
00:12:45.960 to welfare or food stamps or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here. An amount
00:12:51.220 equal to 40,000 times a daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But if you want to buy land,
00:12:57.540 it'll be restricted. No waterfront, for instance. And as a foreigner, you have to relinquish individual 1.00
00:13:02.360 rights to the property. And another thing. You don't have the right to protest. You're allowed no
00:13:07.300 demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president
00:13:12.560 or his policies. You're a foreigner. Shut your mouth or get out. And if you come here illegally, 1.00
00:13:19.060 you're going to jail. Now, you think the Limbaugh laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just
00:13:25.100 mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today. That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants to
00:13:30.080 their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and protest in our streets. How do you say double 1.00
00:13:37.080 standard in Spanish? How about no mas? Dr. Saad, react to the great Rush Limbaugh's
00:13:45.880 as a conversation starter. He is missed. Look, I don't know about the 40,000th of the minimum wage.
00:13:53.760 I'd have to calculate whether that number makes sense or not. But the general, you know, gist of
00:13:59.100 what he's saying, I mean, I couldn't agree more. Right. I mean, what is it that allows,
00:14:04.020 what's the logic of having illegal immigrants, more money spent on them than American vets who've 0.99
00:14:12.800 lost limbs fighting, defending our liberties? It's insane. I mean, hence, that's the that's the
00:14:18.600 exact point of my next book, Suicidal Empathy. So, yes, Rush Limbaugh is right about everything.
00:14:25.260 In closing here, Dr. Saad, what would you said the West is a woman to be mounted? That is the 0.99
00:14:30.840 Islamic creed. Remind us of it. Yes. So that that quote comes from. So prior to people knowing who
00:14:39.060 I am, I mean, now I couldn't get away with it. But in the past, because Arabic is my mother tongue, 0.88
00:14:43.680 I would I would hold conversations with all sorts of, you know, Muslim and Arabic speaking people
00:14:48.560 to sort of gauge their their sentiments about things. And I would repeatedly hear from Arabic
00:14:55.180 speaking Muslim speaking immigrants. And in this case, it was in Canada, always say that the West 0.99
00:15:02.020 is a woman to be mounted. And what the reflex that that captures is that all of the virtues that we
00:15:10.360 think as laudable in the West, compassion, magnanimity, generosity, empathy, are heard as weakness,
00:15:20.340 weakness, weakness, weakness and weakness by cultures that don't necessarily share our infinite 0.98
00:15:26.960 largesse. And so it's exactly what they're saying. West is weak. It's a woman. Therefore, 1.00
00:15:32.700 really quick. We know the red green alliance. Right. But the Islam is all about power and leftism is all 1.00
00:15:40.040 about power. Maybe that's also what they have in common. Exactly. They both despise the West. So
00:15:45.940 because we both despise the West, we will join in unison and trying to get rid of the West. But of
00:15:52.640 course, the leftists don't recognize that once Islam becomes ascendant, they will be decapitated just 0.99
00:16:00.100 like the rest of us. Dr. Saad, please plug your work so our audience can follow and support you. 0.51
00:16:06.220 The Parasitic Mind was a big international bestseller. You can certainly read my latest book on
00:16:13.000 happiness, the sad truth about happiness. And I am feverishly working on my next book, which should be
00:16:17.860 out probably early in 2026, called Suicidal Empathy. Dr. Saad, thank you so much. Excellent work. And
00:16:25.620 we'll have you on again soon. Thank you.