Is Islam Compatible with the West's Liberties and Freedoms？ (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_843)
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Dr. Gad Saad is a great friend of mine, visiting professor and global ambassador at Northwood University, and author of The Sad Truth About Happiness and the Parasitic Mind. In this episode, Dr. Saad joins me to talk about Islam and its relationship with Western values.
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Joining us now is Dr. Gad Saad, a great friend of mine, visiting professor and global ambassador
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at Northwood University, author of The Sad Truth About Happiness and the Parasitic Mind.
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So, Dr. Saad, I'm doing well. You were the first guest that we thought of, of someone
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who could really speak truth to power, about what we're seeing in New York and a broader
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takeover of the West by Islam. And I said something yesterday. I said, look, it doesn't
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feel right or seem right that the West is quickly being taken over. Both London and New York
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are going to have Muslim mayors and having third world immigration that has made that
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possible. Dr. Saad, how should we think about all of this?
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Look, Islam, like any ideology, has certain defining tenets, some of which might be perfectly
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consistent with our values, but many of which, regrettably, are perfectly inconsistent with
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our values. So, take, for example, Sharia law, which is Islamic law. It purports that
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the severity of a punishment depends on the identity of the perpetrator and of the victim.
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In that sense, it couldn't be any more antithetical to American jurisprudence, which basically says
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that Lady Justice has to be blind. And so, the people who say, hey, you know, all religions
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have good and bad. I mean, in a very idiotic sense, that's true. But, you know, Jains, people
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who practice Jainism, are extremely pacifists, so much so that when they walk down the street,
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they use a broom so that they don't inadvertently step on any ants. Regrettably, Islam is not as
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peaceful as Jainism, and therefore, we must make sure to let in people who share our values.
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But why is this so complicated? And so, why is it that secular Westerners, especially in New York,
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feel, go out of their way to try to elect someone like Mamdani, who has, by no way whatsoever,
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could you say this guy is a believer in Western values? What drives that?
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So, I mean, there are several reasons, one of which is, so Islamophilia, the love of Islam,
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stems from several, you know, parasitic ideas, one of which is that Islam, because it is in the
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minority status in the West so far, it is viewed as the underdog. And of course, progressives with
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their suicidal empathy love to view the underdog as downtrodden, and therefore, we need to protect it.
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Of course, what they don't know is that Islam is the majority position in 56 countries that constitute
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the Islamic organization, you know, the IOC, OIC, Organization of Islamic Cooperation. And so, therefore,
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they have this reflex, right, that the noble Gazans are the sweet boys, the Israelis are the mean guys.
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And so, that just comes from the reflexive bent of progressives to always go for the minority.
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And so, what further about Islam do you wish or want Westerners to know about? Do you think that
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The short answer, no. Of course, millions of Muslims decide to ignore the, you know, the incongruent
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elements of their religion. They're practicing cafeteria Islam, right? They're choosing the
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parts that they agree with, and they're ignoring the parts that they don't agree with. But once Islam
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becomes, never mind a majority, if it becomes a strong minority, we have 1400 years of history that
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tells us what happens to all of the foundational values that we hold dearly in the West, right? I
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mean, you don't have to, you know, believe me. You could just study history, right? I mean, almost every
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single one of the 56 countries that I mentioned a few minutes ago started off with having zero Islam.
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And then you close and open your eyes. Suddenly, it's 99.9% Islam. How did that happen? In some cases,
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it takes five years for it to happen. In some cases, it takes 500 years to happen. But inshallah,
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it will always happen. I'll mention one other thing. Many of your viewers may not know this.
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Since 9-11 alone, Charlie, so that's 24 years, there have been 47,000 plus terror attacks committed
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by Islamic terrorists in nearly 70 countries. And now there are multiple databases that you can use
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to prove that this number is correct. 47,000 terror attacks. So that should give you a sense of
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whether Islam is compatible with the West or not.
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So why is it that so many Muslims are moving to Western countries? Is it just economics? Or is there
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It's both. Of course, many Muslims have no interest in conquering anyone. And they want,
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as you just said, exactly what you said, which is, I want better economic opportunities for me and my
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children and so on. But the Muslim Brotherhood and many other Islamic theorists and scholars and
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politicians have said that we will conquer the West through three means. And I hope that your
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your listeners and viewers take note. Number one, we will conquer the West through the womb of our
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women, right? So that's a demographic fertility battle. We will produce five children, you will
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produce 1.2 children, and we will outbreed you. Number two, we will conquer the West through hijra.
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Hijra is the Arabic word for immigration. And that's exactly what we do with our open border policies.
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And number three, we will conquer the West by using your miserable freedoms and liberties against
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you. They're screaming this out from the top of the mountain. And yet most Westerners choose to ignore
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it, Charlie. It is so galling. It is so frustrating. I escaped that world 45 plus years ago. And here it is
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now hunting me down 50 years later. And it's what can we do to fortify ourselves against this? And mass
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immigration leads to bad policies. You become what you import. And I know that you're working on a book
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called Suicidal Empathy. But help me further understand the the fortification strategy to help
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prevent this. Well, demography is indeed destiny, right? I mean, a culture is defined by the values
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that the majority of people share in that culture. Cultures are not all equal, right? Cultures that
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throw gays off rooftops are not as good as cultures that don't. Cultures that don't engage in female
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genital mutilation of their little girls are not as good as cultures that don't, and so on and so forth.
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So cultures have values. Religions have values. It is perfectly reasonable for a host society to say
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you're only welcome here as long as you completely reject some of the values that are antithetical to
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ours. If yes, welcome in my brother. If no, stay from where you came from. I mean, it's as simple as
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that. But again, Charlie, the reflex in the West, hence parasitic mind and suicidal empathy, people in
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the West have been taught that it is gauche, it is callous to ever criticize someone's religion. And
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that's what makes most Westerners so impotent to ever criticize Islam, because they say, well, you know,
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I've got my religion, they have theirs, who am I to judge them? Well, you should judge if those values
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are inconsistent with those that you hold dear. And people in the West assume that Western values are
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universal, and they're not. What in particular makes Islamic values incongruent Western values?
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What are the specifics, you would say? Well, there are many, but one of which, so look,
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all Abrahamic faiths have a coalitional psychology, us versus them, right? The Jews say they are the
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chosen people and they are the goys. The Christians say they are the ones who accept Jesus and are going to
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heaven and the rest who are going to hell. The Muslims say that they are the believers and the kuffar,
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the non-believers, which is kind of a derogatory term. But there is something unique in Islam in that
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the doctrines of Islam spend an extraordinary amount of time being very concerned about those
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that don't share their faith, right? So for example, Judaism is not a proselytizing religion.
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That's why there are only 15 million Jews in the world. There are as many Jews today in the world
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as there were at the start of the Holocaust, roughly. Totally. Okay. Whereas Muslims, in a sense,
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it's the ultimate successful marketing strategy. That's such a good point.
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In 1400 years, Charlie, they have nearly 2 billion people. So Islam is successful. Judaism sucks at
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marketing itself. And so there are many elements within the contents of the doctrines of Islam
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that make it uniquely dangerous. And again, this doesn't take away from the fact that most Muslims
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are perfectly nice and sweet and peaceful. Of course. But where Islam goes, personal liberties die.
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Well, and think about even within that statement, Dr. said, okay, they're peaceful and sweet because
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we're comparing them to Western values. And so if you compare a Muslim to Muslim values,
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they're sweet by our standard is what I'm saying. And so insofar that they will comply to the Western
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standard, then fine, of course. But what is a good Muslim? In a Muslim standard, what does a good
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Muslim look like? Well, certainly one, doctrinally speaking, is certainly one who is working to unify
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the entire globe under the unifying flag of Allah, right? So that should give shivers down the spine
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of most people. Look, Egypt used to be fully 100% Coptic Christian country. Fast forward many centuries,
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it's now 10% Coptic. Lebanon during my lifetime, when I grew up in Lebanon was a majority Christian
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country. Fast forward 45 years, it is a largely Muslim majority country. What happened to the
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Syrian Christians? What happened to the Iraqi Christians? What happened to the Pakistani Christians?
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So again, it's not as though Islam always goes into a place and decapitates everyone who's not Muslim,
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but by one mean or another, once Islam takes a foothold somewhere, then the trajectory is very
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clear. And so if we wish to have the United States become an Islamic countries, stay with the current
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open border policies, and in 500 years, we'll all be named Muhammad. What a smart point that in the
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Islamic texts, they spend so much time about people who do not share their values. Christianity
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spends a fair amount of time of it, but nowhere near Islam, though. It doesn't seem there are like
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direct calls in Islam of what to do for those that don't believe. And it's a very pernicious
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preoccupation. We have Dr. Sad here, and I want Dr. Sad to react to the Limbaugh laws. Rush used to do
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this with a cigar, and it was just so great. I want to play 526 and then let Dr. Sad just riff.
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This is if Rush Limbaugh was king, and we should have listened to Rush. This was 20 years ago. 20 years
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ago! I should get a hat. Rush was right about everything. Play cut 526.
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Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it the Limbaugh laws.
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First, you immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language. You have to be a
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professional or an investor. No unskilled workers allowed. Also, there'll be no special bilingual
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programs in the schools with the Limbaugh laws. No special ballots for elections. No government
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business will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold
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political office. If you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled
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to welfare or food stamps or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here. An amount
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equal to 40,000 times a daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But if you want to buy land,
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it'll be restricted. No waterfront, for instance. And as a foreigner, you have to relinquish individual
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rights to the property. And another thing. You don't have the right to protest. You're allowed no
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demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president
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or his policies. You're a foreigner. Shut your mouth or get out. And if you come here illegally,
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you're going to jail. Now, you think the Limbaugh laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just
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mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today. That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants to
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their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and protest in our streets. How do you say double
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standard in Spanish? How about no mas? Dr. Saad, react to the great Rush Limbaugh's
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as a conversation starter. He is missed. Look, I don't know about the 40,000th of the minimum wage.
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I'd have to calculate whether that number makes sense or not. But the general, you know, gist of
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what he's saying, I mean, I couldn't agree more. Right. I mean, what is it that allows,
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what's the logic of having illegal immigrants, more money spent on them than American vets who've
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lost limbs fighting, defending our liberties? It's insane. I mean, hence, that's the that's the
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exact point of my next book, Suicidal Empathy. So, yes, Rush Limbaugh is right about everything.
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In closing here, Dr. Saad, what would you said the West is a woman to be mounted? That is the
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Islamic creed. Remind us of it. Yes. So that that quote comes from. So prior to people knowing who
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I am, I mean, now I couldn't get away with it. But in the past, because Arabic is my mother tongue,
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I would I would hold conversations with all sorts of, you know, Muslim and Arabic speaking people
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to sort of gauge their their sentiments about things. And I would repeatedly hear from Arabic
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speaking Muslim speaking immigrants. And in this case, it was in Canada, always say that the West
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is a woman to be mounted. And what the reflex that that captures is that all of the virtues that we
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think as laudable in the West, compassion, magnanimity, generosity, empathy, are heard as weakness,
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weakness, weakness, weakness and weakness by cultures that don't necessarily share our infinite
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largesse. And so it's exactly what they're saying. West is weak. It's a woman. Therefore,
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really quick. We know the red green alliance. Right. But the Islam is all about power and leftism is all
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about power. Maybe that's also what they have in common. Exactly. They both despise the West. So
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because we both despise the West, we will join in unison and trying to get rid of the West. But of
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course, the leftists don't recognize that once Islam becomes ascendant, they will be decapitated just
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like the rest of us. Dr. Saad, please plug your work so our audience can follow and support you.
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The Parasitic Mind was a big international bestseller. You can certainly read my latest book on
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happiness, the sad truth about happiness. And I am feverishly working on my next book, which should be
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out probably early in 2026, called Suicidal Empathy. Dr. Saad, thank you so much. Excellent work. And