The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - December 14, 2025


Islam and the Cutting of the Gordian Knot (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_938)

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Gad Saad
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Hitler Gordian Knot Cleopatra Muhammad Goebbels Hanukkah Mahmoud Himmler Ahmad Hijra Ahmed
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In the wake of the attack on a Hanukkah gathering in Bandai Beach, Australia, on 7/11/2019, many Muslims are quick to point out that it was actually a Muslim who jumped on the two Muslims who were slaughtering Jews. But what does that tell us about Islam? Is it a good or bad thing? And what does it say about Islam as a whole?

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00:00:00.000 All right, guys, it's 9.40 a.m. here on the East Coast, and I just wanted to go and have a coffee
00:00:07.840 and read. I'm currently reading a book, a biography on Cleopatra, very interesting,
00:00:15.960 and wanted to absolutely stay away from all social media, but being the idiot that I am,
00:00:21.460 I went to just check the news, see what's up, and saw that there had been, I think now maybe 11 0.98
00:00:29.100 dead at a Hanukkah gathering in Bandai Beach. Actually, it's a place that my wife and I
00:00:38.000 visited and hung out at when I had my first sabbatical leave in 2001, spent five weeks in
00:00:46.920 Australia and two weeks in New Zealand, and one of the first places we went is to Bandai Beach,
00:00:51.620 and we did a beautiful beach walk. And so, as you know, some men who's, you know, we don't know
00:01:01.540 their motives. We have no idea what happened. We can't know why they did it, you know, just to,
00:01:09.760 I mean, they just happened incidentally to be Muslim and then just shot up as though they were 1.00
00:01:15.520 swatting mosquitoes a bunch of Jews. And so, I went online and, of course, I shared my displeasure. 1.00
00:01:22.000 It probably took no more than, I don't know, five minutes before I started receiving a torrent
00:01:30.060 of hate back because, you ready? Because the gentleman who jumped the two Muslims who were 1.00
00:01:40.580 slaughtering Jews was himself Muslim. Okay, well, first of all, obviously, he's a legendary hero.
00:01:50.380 He risks, he risked his life to save other people. So, for that, you could be immeasurably thankful to
00:01:58.840 him. But that's not the key point that I wish to discuss today. Notwithstanding, as I said, all hail
00:02:06.460 should go to him. Right away, it negated the fact that it was Muslims who killed the Jews in Australia. 0.96
00:02:19.460 It negated my right to be angry that Muslims killed Jews in Australia. Similarly, when I called 0.99
00:02:31.240 my family in Israel wondering if any of them had been harmed at the October 7th massacre,
00:02:41.040 very shortly thereafter, I started receiving massive hate. But I mean, hate like you can't imagine
00:02:48.340 because I had lost the right to be upset at what happened on October 7th because there's really
00:02:59.120 only one genocide happening. And that's the retaliation of the Jews at what happened on October 7th. 0.78
00:03:06.520 So, the reason why I called it Islam and the Gordian Knot, for those of you who don't know, 1.00
00:03:12.580 the Gordian Knot is an ancient Greek legend involving Alexander the Great. It basically,
00:03:19.720 I mean, I don't need to go into the specifics, but the parable, the story, the underlying moral
00:03:25.800 is that when you say, for example, you know, they tied you in a Gordian Knot, that means it's a very
00:03:34.040 hard knot to get out of. Well, the immediate screams of Islamophobia when 11 Jews have been gunned down
00:03:46.640 is what a Gordian Knot looks like because then you lose your ability to even be upset
00:03:55.260 at what just happened. Right? And that's the beauty of and the brilliance of the Islamophobia canard. 0.90
00:04:06.100 Okay, let's look at a few other things. As people were saying, but you're a bigot. I mean, 0.93
00:04:12.800 how dare you say it's Islam that did this? Isn't it the Muslim who saved, who jumped on the two guys?
00:04:19.300 So, the next question is, he is the true representation of Islam, but the two guys who 0.64
00:04:25.960 killed the Jews are not the true representation of Islam. ISIS is not the true representation of Islam. 0.50
00:04:33.720 The 1400 years of subjugation, rape, and destruction of endless cultures, that's not the true 0.63
00:04:42.420 representation of Islam. If a single Muslim does something beautiful, there is a beautiful guy who
00:04:49.540 works in your neighborhood, and he's never harmed anybody, and he's very polite, and his name is
00:04:55.420 Ahmad. He is true Islam. The 48,000 terror attacks in nearly 70 countries since 9-11 alone are not true 0.94
00:05:05.040 Islam. The fact that nearly all of the terror groups on every governmental list are Islamic, 0.80
00:05:11.920 that's not true Islam. That's not true Islam. The fact that several hundred thousand British white 0.97
00:05:18.580 girls were systematically gang raped over the past 30 years by Pakistani Muslims, and they invoke the fact 1.00
00:05:26.940 that they have the right to do so because the kuffar white girls, that's all that they're good for. 1.00
00:05:33.040 That's not true Islam. So nothing that's ever done in the name of Islam that's bad is Islam, but anything 1.00
00:05:44.220 that's done by a good Muslim is the true representation of Islam. Once the West internalizes that, obviously
00:05:54.900 fallacious logic, then you become impotent to speak about it. That's the beauty. It's a
00:06:02.200 it's a master stroke of orgiastically false logic, but that most people, since they have the
00:06:09.460 intelligence of my squirrel that I'm looking at in my outside garden, will fall prey to it. How can I
00:06:16.520 criticize the killing of 11 Jews by Muslims when it was a Muslim who jumped on the Muslims? For example, 0.96
00:06:24.080 how could I be upset at what happened to us and the horrors of my childhood when it was Palestinian 1.00
00:06:33.560 militia who drove us to the airport? That proves that we're good. The fact that we had to leave Lebanon 0.62
00:06:42.020 under immediate threat of execution because Muslims were going to kill us is negated by the fact that 0.63
00:06:49.900 other Muslims didn't kill us. You get it? This proves that Islam is beautiful. If Islam is so mean, how come 0.99
00:07:00.000 there is currently a church in Jordan that exists? This proves that Islam is kind. You get it? Now, there are 0.73
00:07:10.240 two billion Muslims today on earth, okay? One-fourth of humanity. What is the number of 0.99
00:07:19.500 ones who will commit acts of violence that is acceptable and that does not allow us to then say
00:07:28.520 that the religion is a problem? So, let's take, for example, some very, very, you know, conservative
00:07:35.360 stats, okay? Two billion Muslims. If one percent are violent and are willing to kill people, one percent 0.99
00:07:49.860 of two billion is 20 million. Yes? There are 15 million Jews alive. That means there are five million
00:08:00.500 more extremist Muslims willing to commit violence than there are Jews alive today. So, would those odds 0.96
00:08:12.600 be ones worthy of throwing away the civilization that you've built, right? So, it's only one percent. I mean,
00:08:19.720 99. So, I concede 99 percent of Muslims are not going to take up arm and kill. And by the way, we can debate
00:08:28.840 those numbers. But let's be the most conservative, the most charitable, the most non-Islamophobic.
00:08:36.340 So, there are 20 million who are willing to kill you. So, are those good odds? And if we take those
00:08:44.360 odds, what is it that we get in return? Because we never know who those 20 million are, right? When you
00:08:50.360 say you want to vet, how do you vet someone? How do you know that when you vetted them and said,
00:08:56.840 oh, are you kidding me? I love Jews. I love the gays. Oh, the LGBTQ people, I love them.
00:09:04.480 Ya Allah b'habbon. I love them. Ya Allah b'amut fiyon. I die. I love them so much.
00:09:15.300 That's it. You vetted them. It's a 100 percent diagnostic test. So, what is it? Life is about
00:09:23.180 reciprocity. Life is about trade-offs. Life is about cost-benefit analyses, right? That's what your
00:09:31.200 prefrontal cortex has evolved to do. So, if you say, you know what? I think it's perfectly reasonable
00:09:38.800 for us to take a risk in letting in millions of people, hundreds of millions, as long as
00:09:49.360 only 1 percent wish to kill us. I mean, yeah, it seems like 20 million is a lot, but shouldn't we
00:09:57.600 be kind? Shouldn't we be suicidally empathetic? Okay. But the reality is that the numbers are not
00:10:05.460 1 percent to 99. I began by saying that that it would be an astoundingly generous, because then
00:10:13.480 we can talk about the extent to which the other 99 contribute to the 1 percent, right? So, let's 0.82
00:10:22.900 suppose you go to the mosque. By the way, there is one close to where I am doing this right now, where
00:10:28.680 all day and night it's about killing the Jews and so on. One of the eight most extremist mosques 0.98
00:10:35.160 in the world is one that's about 20 minute drive from where I am right now. Now, the people who go to
00:10:44.300 that mosque, who listen to those sermons, are they, now, they're Muslim, they're at the mosque,
00:10:51.320 they're listening to the guy saying, oh God, oh God, one day the world won't end until the tree 1.00
00:10:58.920 tells us there's a Jew hiding behind you, go kill him, right? The famous hadith, okay? Are they guilty? 1.00
00:11:06.920 Have they internalized those values? But they're not part of the 1 percent, right? What percentage of the
00:11:13.360 100 percent of Muslims is for Sharia law, has hatred for Jews, has hatred for Christians, would wish for 1.00
00:11:25.780 the entire world to become Muslim? What's that number? You pick any number you want. It's only 10 percent. 1.00
00:11:32.100 Well, 10 percent of 2 billion is 200 million. So, is it a good idea to have 200 million people
00:11:41.840 who wish to conquer your civilization? Because they are instructed, but the reality is that
00:11:48.260 Islam completely, 100 percent says that. But is it an okay odds ratio risk for you to say, 0.99
00:11:56.420 if only 10 percent wish to, either by violent or peaceful means, take over your society, that's a
00:12:05.580 worthy risk to take. Because 90 percent don't want to do that. They're perfectly nice. And because I
00:12:11.540 don't want to marginalize the 90 percent who will just go along with the complete erasure of all 0.99
00:12:18.960 non-Muslims. Should we then be kind? So, again, I have, I have, I have, and I've had innumerable Muslim
00:12:30.000 friends. Does that negate in any way everything that I'm saying here? No. The reality is almost every single
00:12:41.220 person sees what the reality is. But they've been rendered impotent. They've been rendered lobotomized
00:12:50.040 by the dual punch of parasitized minds and suicidal empathy. That's why my work resonates so globally.
00:12:59.240 I'm not saying this to be immodest. Because I have identified the mechanisms by which you turn
00:13:08.700 people into zombified automaton that walk calmly and quietly to their erasure.
00:13:21.520 And I have to tell you, the Islamic folks who use those strategies, develop those strategies,
00:13:32.080 right? Remember the Muslim Brotherhood and others. We will conquer the West through three means. 1.00
00:13:38.060 We will conquer the West through the womb of our women. We will conquer the West through hijra. 1.00
00:13:44.800 Hijra is immigration. Now imagine if the West says, you don't even need to, we just let you in 0.95
00:13:51.900 by the millions. Okay? And then number three, we will conquer the West by using your miserable freedoms
00:14:02.000 against you. Let me add a fourth. We will conquer the West by infecting you with parasitic ideas and 0.78
00:14:10.760 suicidal empathy, right? When I wake up in the morning and I'm angry because there were a bunch
00:14:18.320 of people. It's not just because they're Jews, right? It's not. My calculus doesn't work. I'm upset because
00:14:24.620 Jews were killed. I'm upset because innocent people who just going about their days, who later want to 1.00
00:14:31.520 be with their families, were shot, slaughtered. Now I'm going to get somebody say, yeah, but what about
00:14:38.280 the Gaza bombing? The Gaza bombing would not have happened if October 7th didn't happen. Look, I'm 61 years 0.80
00:14:45.660 old. I've lived among Muslims and Arabs and Jews my entire life. Okay? Now less so because it's a bit 1.00
00:14:53.480 more difficult for me to navigate across some of the Islamic communities where I live. I've never ever 1.00
00:15:02.540 heard a single word by a Jew about wanting to kill Arabs, wanting to kill Muslims. Jews just want to be 1.00
00:15:11.440 left the fuck alone. There's only 15 million Jews. They can't do shit. They're minuscule in the tapestry 1.00
00:15:21.480 of humanity. Yes, they punch above their weight class because of their influence, but that stems from
00:15:27.740 an ethos of hard work, of faith, of family, of excellence, right? If you have one PhD, but how come
00:15:37.300 you only have one PhD? If you have two PhD, but two PhD, you're a dropout. How about a third PhD?
00:15:43.480 Okay? So yes, Jews have a lot of influence, but it's not because they're diabolical, because they 0.96
00:15:51.140 have internalized certain values that promote excellence. But Jews don't want, they just want to 1.00
00:15:59.560 be left alone. I mean, that's the reason why modern day Israel is so important for the Jews, because when
00:16:06.900 you are constantly, for thousands of years, harassed, persecuted, killed, then having a place where you
00:16:14.280 can go to, where it makes it less likely for people to F with you, is an important existential reality
00:16:22.220 to have. Yes? But do you want me to tell you the number of times I sat with Muslims? Because not now, 1.00
00:16:30.680 because obviously people recognize me now, where it's always about eradicating the Jews. Just every 1.00
00:16:37.680 day when I go online, every single day, the stuff that I see thrown at me by Ahmed and Muhammad and 1.00
00:16:46.340 Mahmoud all day long, it would make Hitler say, hey guys, can you mellow out a bit? It's too much, 0.95
00:16:56.180 the Jew hatred. Look, I'm sitting here with Goebbels, Himmler, and I'm Hitler, and it's too much. It's 0.77
00:17:04.560 making me feel uncomfortable. So why is that tolerated? Why is it tolerated to attack me in
00:17:11.520 the most profound ways on a Sunday morning, simply because I'm upset that people who are celebrating
00:17:17.500 Hanukkah were mowed down? Because I don't have the right to be upset, because the one who jumped on
00:17:23.580 them is Muslim. That's it. That removes the attack. Look, people, I'm going to leave soon.
00:17:32.900 I mean, my wife is waiting for me. That's what I mean. If you don't wake up, if you don't speak out
00:17:42.400 in every possible way, I swear on everything that is dear to me, you will lose the West. 0.79
00:17:53.580 Look, when you go see an endocrinologist or diabetes expert, he or she can tell you exactly
00:18:04.560 what the progression of diabetes is, because there's this thing called statistical regularity.
00:18:11.180 There is a pattern. That's what science does, right? So when you are a physician who's trained
00:18:18.300 in treating diabetes, you can say, here is the trajectory of diabetes, right? That's why we study.
00:18:26.940 That's why we have academics who try to uncover the regularities of the patterns of nature. Yes?
00:18:35.760 So, there is 1400 years of data, which I have shared on innumerable occasions. Go back and read
00:18:44.640 chapters 6 and 7 of The Parasitic Mind. I've built the normological network of Islam. 1.00
00:18:51.720 The data is unbelievably clear. It's a lot more clear than the progression of diabetes
00:18:57.720 diabetes in its predictability. The reason why you don't stand up other than because you're afraid
00:19:04.720 that you're going to be called Islamophobic is because you could live in an enclave that allows 0.62
00:19:11.060 you to think that the problem is over there and it won't come over here. But you have to have
00:19:17.840 the foresight to forecast what happens in the future. You can't have temporal myopia. Yes? Is the U.S. going
00:19:29.000 to succumb to Islam tomorrow? No. In 10 years? No. In 20 years? No. But give the current reality enough time. 1.00
00:19:40.000 If it doesn't succumb to Islam, it will ensure that there will always be friction and trouble. We're seeing 1.00
00:19:47.280 it, right? There is a place called Dearborn. There is a place called Minnesota, right? So, you need to
00:19:57.400 doesn't matter who you are. You're an 80-year-old woman. You're a 14-year-old kid. You need to be able 0.93
00:20:04.300 to put the dots, connect the dots together and say, I have children and they will have children and they
00:20:13.980 will have children. So, it may not affect me personally. But if I am an honorable, decent person
00:20:21.120 who cares about liberties and freedoms, I won't stay silent. I won't let the false, useless, impotent 0.96
00:20:32.000 accusation of being Islamophobic stop me from protecting the liberty and freedom of my children,
00:20:40.360 the liberty and freedom of my women, the liberty and freedom of the West, please, I implore
00:20:50.760 you. Wake up. Have a good Sunday, everybody.