The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - September 21, 2025


Israel, Islam, the Jews, and the West (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_883)


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In this episode, Dr. Aaron Godside joins me to talk about the influence of Judaism and Islam in America and around the world. Dr. Godside has been a regular guest on the Joe Rogan Show, and is one of the few people in the world with a thorough knowledge of Islam and its influence in the modern world.

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00:00:00.500 All right. Welcome to the show, Dr. Godside. I think I'm saying it right. If I get it wrong,
00:00:06.400 I think you could correct me on it. You have an incredible resume and reputation. People have
00:00:12.320 seen you on Joe Rogan's show. We'll put your credentials in the description section, but I
00:00:16.400 don't want to belabor too much on that. I mean, obviously, you'll qualify, man. People will know
00:00:19.880 your qualifications by some of the things that you explain. They can make the decision from there.
00:00:24.300 But I really wanted to bring you on because I feel like you have a really good, thorough
00:00:28.780 perspective on what's going on with Islam around the world, the influence of Islam.
00:00:34.300 I know that a lot of people believe, and I don't know if it's right or not, to be quite
00:00:40.060 honest, I don't believe that Judaism or Jews have such a negative influence in America and
00:00:46.060 around the world as the Islamic state or whatever. You can call it radical Islam. I don't know
00:00:52.080 if it's radical or not, but I want you to just speak to that because, and I want the audience
00:00:57.360 to know, I've never talked to you before right now. You were suggested as a guest. I thought
00:01:02.560 you were incredible on Joe Rogan. Didn't watch the whole show. I just watched a couple of
00:01:05.600 clips. And so I'm not telling you what to say, but I want you to give me a fair assessment
00:01:10.080 of what you think about the influence of Judaism and Jews, quote unquote, and their influence in
00:01:17.320 America and around the world in comparison to Islam and their influence around the world.
00:01:21.860 Sounds great. First, thank you so much for having me on. A pleasure to finally meet you,
00:01:26.920 at least e-meet you. Look, religions are not interchangeable. There are over 10,000
00:01:33.940 documented religions in the world. They include a lot of similarities, but they include grossly
00:01:40.640 obvious differences. So for example, in Islam and in Judaism, you're not supposed to eat pork,
00:01:47.320 whereas in Christianity, it's perfectly reasonable to have a nice prosciutto sandwich. So meaning that
00:01:52.740 the content of religions matter. They're not interchangeable, right? Badminton is a sport,
00:01:58.800 so is MMA fighting, but one of them is much more likely to cause you brain damage than the other,
00:02:04.580 even though both are called sports, right? So let's take, for example, Jainism, which is a religion,
00:02:10.260 a very much of a pacifist religion. The Jains are so keen on not ever harming anything that when they
00:02:18.480 walk on the sidewalk, they actually first sweep the sidewalk, lest they might inadvertently step
00:02:25.860 on an ant. Therefore, if you have a lot of Jains that are coming into your country, you're likely to
00:02:32.660 have a lot more peace because it is codified in their religion that you have to be peaceful,
00:02:38.440 never mind to human beings, but to ants. All right, so now let's talk about Judaism and Islam.
00:02:46.100 Judaism, by definition, is a non-proselytizing religion, meaning that it is forbidden to go out
00:02:54.440 and try to convert people to your religion. Therefore, this is why today, around the world,
00:03:02.160 we only have 15 million Jews. Around the time of the Holocaust in World War II,
00:03:07.780 there were about 16 million Jews. So Judaism has not increased for obvious reasons, and that is
00:03:14.960 that we're not supposed to try to convince others to join our faith. As a matter of fact,
00:03:21.820 you're supposed to try to dissuade people who want to convert to your religion because it has to come
00:03:28.380 from a real place of purity, and so on. Islam, on the other hand, is the granddaddy of proselytizing
00:03:40.900 religions. It says that the world will be united under one unifying flag of Allah. Allah is the Arabic word
00:03:52.560 for God, their God, okay? So therefore, that begins to show you that the reason why there is a small Jewish state
00:04:02.460 that is the size of New Jersey, surrounded by 400 million people, each of which those countries at one point
00:04:13.360 was non-Islamic, right? Islam has existed for 1400 years. Each of the countries that today is majority,
00:04:21.280 if not exclusively Islamic, was once fully non-Islamic. So how did it happen? Was it by magic?
00:04:29.260 Was it by love? Was it by kindness that it was spread? Is there a reason why there is a thing called
00:04:35.300 the sword of Islam? Is the sword meant to serve as a back scratch? Or is it because we put the sword
00:04:41.360 the sword to your neck and say you've got three choices? You either convert or you die or you live
00:04:49.200 as a dimmi. Dimmi means sort of third-class citizen under Islamic rule. So therefore, there are an
00:04:56.560 infinite number of differences between Judaism and Islam. Yes, they both are monotheistic religions
00:05:03.240 in that just like Christianity, they believe that there is a singular God, but the details are
00:05:10.060 astoundingly different. And this is, you know, knowing that, and in part, I've heard that online,
00:05:16.260 I've seen videos, and I see how hostile some people are, even in America. I mean, they are advocating
00:05:23.480 for Sharia law. I think in Texas, Governor Abbott banned Sharia law, any element of Sharia law in the
00:05:30.480 state of Texas. And you see some of them being very hostile, like even in the West Bank. And I'm not saying
00:05:37.100 all of the West Bank, but I know that there used to be in Bethlehem, 80% Christian population in
00:05:43.160 Bethlehem. And then when the Palestinians took over and Israel kind of withdrew from that area,
00:05:48.520 now it's only 17%. Around the world, some of the most hostile terrorist organizations seem to come
00:05:55.400 from that extreme religious perspective. But what I want to ask you, doctors, is it an extremist
00:06:03.020 perspective for Islam to be in its most violent form? Or is that the baseline? And others are more so
00:06:12.800 extreme by being more peaceful, meaning that which one is the baseline? Is the peace the baseline? Or is
00:06:19.100 the violence the baseline? And the others are acting outside of what the Quran says.
00:06:23.080 Got it. Look, about 90% of Islam is political Islam, meaning it is a manual for how to conquer the
00:06:35.240 world so that only the one true faith exists, and that is Islam. Only about 10% of Islam is the
00:06:42.700 spiritual part. So it's not as though every single word of the holy books of Islam are all about violence.
00:06:49.000 But if you were to do a content analysis of the contents of the religion, it is very much concerned
00:06:56.420 with how to conquer the world, because there is this one unique supremacist faith, right? And so
00:07:03.440 therefore, as Erdogan, the president of Turkey, said, there is no radical Islam, there is no political
00:07:12.340 Islam, there is only Islam. And countless other Islamic clerics have said the exact same thing to
00:07:19.140 them. It is offensive when you say, when you try to come up with all sorts of qualifiers, it's militant
00:07:25.500 Islam, it's radical Islam, it's extremist Islam. No, there is only Islam, there is no book called
00:07:32.300 militant Islam, there is no book called radical extremist Islam. Now what there is, is what I call
00:07:39.540 cafeteria Muslims, right? When you go to a cafeteria, you get to pick and choose which dishes you want
00:07:45.720 to eat, right? So for example, I'm Jewish, it's not allowed in my religion to eat pork or shrimp,
00:07:52.500 I choose using cafeteria logic to ignore those parts and eat the pork and eat the shrimp. I'm not
00:08:01.880 practicing soft Judaism, I'm simply ignoring the parts of Judaism that I don't feel like abiding
00:08:09.460 to buy. It's the exact same principle with Muslims. Most Muslims wake up and they don't say they want
00:08:16.000 to kill all infidels, they just want to go about their daily lives, they're perfectly nice and
00:08:20.420 reasonable. But they're perfectly nice and reasonable, not because they went into their book and got that
00:08:26.620 from their book, it's because they're choosing to ignore the endless exhortations to kill and
00:08:32.020 subjugate the infidels. So there's only Islam, there is no Islamism.
00:08:35.960 That's very interesting. You know, what do you think, what is the allure that America and Europe
00:08:45.640 has to, I guess, allow tons of people from this religious perspective to come into their countries
00:08:54.720 and in some cases they're taking over. I mean, people in Europe, and I have never been to Europe
00:08:59.820 and experienced this. I've been to Europe, but I haven't experienced this. So I'm not giving first
00:09:04.020 hand knowledge on this thing. But I'm just saying it appears that people are complaining
00:09:07.640 about the influence of Islam in Europe. We see in Michigan and other places that it seems to be a
00:09:13.180 takeover. I mean, they have, they're in the middle of the street, they want to build mosques all over.
00:09:17.880 What is the allure? Have we, have we been tricked or is it that we believe in the peaceful Islam?
00:09:26.320 Are they gonna, do you think that one day they're gonna turn? I mean, like, well, should we be afraid?
00:09:32.140 I mean, these are, these are questions that I have about it because it's kind of weird that out of any
00:09:37.100 religion, one of the most hostile religions in their rhetoric and also in their doctrine
00:09:42.540 is the most accepted and allowed and protected religion in the West.
00:09:46.720 Right. You just, the question that you just asked is exactly what I seek to offer a solution
00:09:54.820 in this book, the yellow one, the parasitic mind, and in my forthcoming book, suicidal empathy. So let
00:10:02.120 me give you a 30,000, uh, you know, foot view of the answer, and then we can drill down into the
00:10:08.060 details. In the parasitic mind, I argue that in the same way that human beings and, and, and other
00:10:15.420 animals could be parasitized by actual brain worms. Okay. And let me just hang in with me as I try to
00:10:22.300 explain this. So for example, a wood cricket, an actual cricket, when it is infected with a particular
00:10:29.360 brain parasite called a hair worm, it loses its disdain for water, the wood cricket, and then it is
00:10:37.480 merely jumps into water committing suicide because the hair worm that has zombified its brain needs it
00:10:45.140 to jump into water, commit suicide in order for it to complete its reproductive cycle. So I take this
00:10:51.600 principle and I argue that human beings can not only be parasitized by actual physical brain worms,
00:10:58.980 they could be parasitized by ideological brain worms. And so now I'm going to come in a second to your
00:11:04.560 question. One such brain worm is called cultural relativism. Cultural relativism is an idea that
00:11:12.900 was first spawned on university campuses, just like all the other idiotic ideas. It takes professors to
00:11:19.940 come up with some of the dumbest garbage. So cultural relativism says it is imperialistic of you to judge
00:11:28.300 how other cultures organize their societies. If another culture wants to cut off the clitorises
00:11:35.060 of five-year-old girls, who are you racist to judge them? Be quiet and accept the fact that they can do
00:11:42.120 what they want. So in the parasitic mind, I explain what happens to our cognitive system, our thought
00:11:48.800 processes when they are zombified by all this nonsense. In my forthcoming book, which I am,
00:11:54.740 I was working on immediately prior to coming for this chat, it's called suicidal empathy. There what
00:12:01.380 I argue is that for me to completely zombify your brain, I need to do two things. I need to zombify
00:12:08.560 your thinking system, but I also need to zombify your emotional system, right? So empathy is a
00:12:15.780 beautiful thing. It's part of, it's a noble virtue. For you and I to have a meaningful conversation,
00:12:21.720 we need to have theory of mind. I need to put myself in your mind. You need to put yourself in
00:12:27.140 mine. So empathy is a beautiful thing, as long as it occurs in the right amount, in the right place,
00:12:34.880 to the right targets. Regrettably, the West has decided that the best way for us to make up
00:12:42.900 for being a racist, Islamophobic, transphobic society, right? You need to do a lot of self-flagellation
00:12:50.140 because of the existential guilt of whatever someone did 300 years ago. The best way to
00:12:56.120 demonstrate that we are not racist and transphobe and Islamophobe is to be suicidally empathetic.
00:13:03.700 Therefore, we become the wood cricket that jumps into the water, merrily commits suicide,
00:13:11.480 because thank God, at least it shows that I'm not Islamophobic. So empathy is good. Suicidal
00:13:18.220 empathy is bad. And so that explains why when we then see Islam coming for us, we have two choices.
00:13:25.940 Either say your ideology is inconsistent with our values, but that would make me a mean bigot.
00:13:34.320 So it is much better to be suicidally empathetic because that way you could decapitate me,
00:13:40.420 but at least I knew that I wasn't bigoted.
00:13:44.460 I'll tell you what, I'm enjoying this already. You're making me, I got to read these books because
00:13:50.020 what you're saying is articulating what I think is happening, but I can't explain what it is.
00:13:55.380 It seems like it is some, I see it happening to people, right? I mean, they, it happens on the
00:14:02.560 Islamic front. It happens on a race front here in America where they, people are willing to turn a
00:14:09.100 blind eye, get assaulted by a person, then have sympathy for the person who assaulted them because
00:14:14.920 it makes them feel virtuous. They're manipulating and abusing and mutilating children. And you look
00:14:21.800 them in the eye and say, this is wrong. And they're like, you're a mean. I'm a mean for trying to protect
00:14:29.200 children for irreversible surgeries is insane. And doctor, I want to talk about this because
00:14:35.640 this is another, and like, I don't know where you stand on this, but I respect your opinion enough
00:14:41.120 to, if you, even if you disagree with me on this, I respect it because it will probably make sense.
00:14:46.200 I see that there's a slight brain rotting in wormage that's going on in the minds of people as it
00:14:54.360 relates to Israel for some reason. I think that it's okay to criticize Israel or in Gaza. And if
00:15:02.200 people don't like the tactics or whatever, it makes sense to me to have a conversation to critique,
00:15:07.420 but to flat out call it a genocide, to flat out say that their, the campaign is to murder babies.
00:15:16.640 It seems almost as if it's explaining kind of what you were talking about is that, that suicidal
00:15:21.820 empathy to really to no end. What's your thoughts on that? Do you, do you think that it, that it's
00:15:27.560 related to, um, the Israeli conflict or do you think I'm completely missing it? No, uh, definitely,
00:15:34.420 you know, orgiastic Jew hatred is a form of parasitic thinking, right? Because it's completely
00:15:40.300 illogical, right? So, and I, I know that you know this already, but I'm going to put it in the framework
00:15:45.680 of my wood cricket, you know, framework. Uh, if I am a queer person, more power to me, that's great.
00:15:53.420 But then if I'm a queer person, would it make more sense for me to support Tel Aviv, which is one of
00:16:00.040 the most queer friendly cities in the world, right? Short of New York, short of Montreal, short of San
00:16:06.640 Francisco, Tel Aviv probably ranks in the top five, most socially liberal places for queer people,
00:16:13.800 or does it make sense if I'm queer to do hashtag queers for Palestine, where by the way, they've
00:16:21.600 come up with a really 100% effective conversion therapy. It's a gravity-based conversion therapy.
00:16:28.840 We throw you off the building with your head first. And as your brain splatters on the pavement,
00:16:34.040 you're cured of your queerness. Well, if I am a wood cricket, then I go queers for Palestine.
00:16:40.100 Let's suppose I'm a feminist. I'm a woman who supports sexual liberation. Should I be for
00:16:46.760 Israeli society where the women are fully sexually emancipated? Or should I be for Gaza society where
00:16:54.540 if one hair sticks out of my hijab or niqab, I might be stoned to death? Well, of course I am,
00:17:01.900 you know, hashtag for women's of Gaza. And so that's exactly why I use the paradigm of neuroparasitology,
00:17:10.660 because the only thing that could explain such departures from reason is when your mind has
00:17:17.380 literally been zombified by these ideological brainwars. Nothing else could explain this, right?
00:17:23.660 Look, Jews, if you just look at the number of Nobel Prizes, Jews make up an astounding minuscule number
00:17:33.420 of people on earth, yet roughly 25% of Nobel Prizes have been granted to Jews, right? So to your first
00:17:42.260 question, when you asked about Islam versus Judaism, you named the medical advancement, the academic
00:17:50.020 advancement, the philosophical advancement, and there's probably some Jew that's behind it, which by
00:17:56.280 the way, paradoxically, to your point, is precisely why people hate the Jews so much. Thomas Sowell, whom I
00:18:04.060 presume you know who he is, he's one of my, you know, intellectual idols, when he was asked, what would it
00:18:11.140 take for people to stop hating Jews, he paused and said, they'd have to fail, right? Because there's nothing
00:18:19.880 that upsets me more than to see those obnoxious Jews always succeeding in life, right? And as we know
00:18:27.800 from psychology, there's something called the self-serving bias. The self-serving bias is the
00:18:33.320 following. I attribute successes internally, and I attribute failures externally. So if I did well on
00:18:40.400 the exam, well, that's because I'm smart, and I studied hard. But if I did poorly on the exam, that's
00:18:45.900 because Dr. Saad is an asshole who's mean, right? So therefore, it's an ego defensive strategy, it
00:18:52.140 allows me to navigate through the world, always attributing my successes to me and failures to the
00:18:58.240 outside world. Well, imagine if now I've got the ultimate explanation for all my failures. You know
00:19:04.520 who it is? It's the Jew. Your wife cheated on you? Well, who controls pornography? It's the Jews. She
00:19:11.460 probably watched porn. And that's what put the idea of her to sleep with the gorgeous Greek gardener.
00:19:18.060 It's raining outside? Who controls the weather? It's the Jew. Your business didn't work out? Who
00:19:24.280 controls banking? It's the Jew. So it becomes a beautiful and elegant way for me to explain all of
00:19:31.840 the failures, both individually and collectively. So I'll give you an example from the Middle East.
00:19:37.720 You probably didn't know this. Did you know that when outside of it, there's a place in Egypt called
00:19:44.240 Sharm el-Sheikh, which is in the Red Sea, it's a beautiful tourist area. A few years ago, there was
00:19:49.820 an attack of sharks in that area, which ended up really affecting tourism in that area. Do you know
00:19:57.140 what the Egyptians concluded from all that? It was Zionist sharks. It turns up, by the way, you can just
00:20:04.520 Google this, right? I mean, you don't have to believe what I'm saying. So I'm Jewish, but I didn't know
00:20:12.600 that we are so diabolical that we're able to train sharks to uniquely attack tourists in Egypt so that
00:20:21.500 we could destroy their tourism. But when you are parasitized by Jew hatred, you get Zionist sharks.
00:20:28.880 Now I know that you're explaining, and I'm glad we agree on this because I can't, it's rare to find
00:20:36.760 people that understand this clearly. I don't understand why the hatred, you said it's jealousy.
00:20:45.400 People literally think that Jews run America. They literally have every ailment in America is
00:20:55.600 because of the Jews. They did 9-11. They did World War II and World War I. I heard somebody say
00:21:02.180 that they're committing the genocide in Palestine. I mean, what are your thoughts on this? Because I
00:21:10.680 don't, like when somebody say the Jews committed 9-11, which they're just adding to the fact that
00:21:16.980 the Jews are just the most diabolical people to ever exist. And that little country is probably
00:21:21.600 the size of my finger. And then Yahoo came on TV the other day. He was doing a press conference
00:21:26.360 and he showed, I never, I went to Israel and I never realized how small Israel is. He showed a map
00:21:33.600 and you're talking about Syria and Jordan and Egypt and all these big major countries. And then Israel
00:21:41.480 is a slither. It's almost like a, like a, a, a canal in between these countries. And the fact that
00:21:49.500 they cannot defeat Israel, the fact that they act as if Israel is, is, is literally running the world
00:21:55.640 is, is bizarre to me. So I mean, maybe, you know, more than I do about this 9-11 thing.
00:22:01.960 Like what, what is the truth behind some of this stuff? Is there any there, there, or is people just,
00:22:06.640 you know, coming up with old tropes?
00:22:09.580 Yes. Well, they are coming up with old tropes. Look, I, we were part of the last,
00:22:14.260 we meaning my family, we were part of the last remaining group of Lebanese Jews in Lebanon. So
00:22:21.260 I, I was born in Lebanon. I grew up in Lebanon. I experienced the Lebanese civil war. Arabic is my
00:22:27.420 mother tongue. That's why it becomes very difficult to delegitimize me, right? Because I can quote all
00:22:32.580 the stuff for you in Arabic, right? If you say what I say, well, you're just some bigot from the United
00:22:38.100 States. But if I say it, it's going to be harder for you to delegitimize me. If Arabic is my mother
00:22:43.440 tongue and I grew up there. So let me reiterate for all your viewers and listeners.
00:22:49.940 Islam is a supremacist religion. It says that the world must be fully and wholly Islamic. Islam is
00:23:00.180 also binary. Let me explain what that means. In Arabic, there's, I'm going to say them in Arabic,
00:23:05.660 and then I'm going to translate. There, there are two camps in the world. There is Dar al-Islam
00:23:11.020 and Dar al-Harab. Dar al-Islam means the house of Islam. Dar al-Harab means the house of war.
00:23:19.680 Why am I saying this? Any land that is currently not under Islamic rule is under the dominion of house
00:23:28.780 of war. So the United States is under the house of war. Any country. So right now, for example,
00:23:36.060 the OIC, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation is a collection of 56 Islamic countries. Each of those
00:23:44.260 56 countries, once upon a time had zero Islam. But after 1400 years, we have 56 countries that are
00:23:53.100 Islamic. Now, another important point. Any country, any territory that has ever been under Islamic rule,
00:24:02.400 but then is lost, must be reconquered. You follow? So for example, when jihadists say,
00:24:09.900 we must reconquer Al-Andalusia. Al-Andalusia is an area in today's Spain. Well, in the olden days,
00:24:19.420 that area was ruled by the Moors, an Islamic conquering people. Well, then Spain, Christian Spain,
00:24:27.500 regained it. But according to Islamic logic, once something becomes Islamic, it could never revert
00:24:36.000 to not being Islamic. So that little land that Netanyahu showed you, that little sliver, that
00:24:41.940 little canal, to the extent that once upon a time, it was under Islamic rule, it is an existential
00:24:50.520 affront for those asshole Jews to now be dominating that land. It is against our theological teaching
00:24:58.920 that it should be Jewish. This is why Egypt used to be completely Coptic Christians many hundreds of
00:25:08.660 years ago. Today, it's only 10% Coptic. What happened to the Copts? Iraq used to have a huge Christian
00:25:16.400 community. Now they're no longer there. What happened to Iraqi Christians? What happened to Syrian
00:25:22.820 Christians? Iran used to be non-Islamic. It used to be Zoroastrian and Baha'i. Now it is an Islamic
00:25:32.100 country. So Islam conquers places. The quicker the United States and the West realizes this, the better
00:25:40.300 off we'll all be. It's crazy to me because I don't know how we fix the PR or change the way we think of
00:25:51.040 it theologically, but it is existential. It is an existential threat to America to scapegoat Israel
00:26:00.120 instead of focusing on what the real issue could be. I don't think Israel, and there's no indication
00:26:05.840 a sign that Israel or Jewish people are trying to conquer anything. They only have one country.
00:26:11.840 And in America, it doesn't appear that there's a coalition of Jewish people that are saying,
00:26:18.280 we're going to run the government. I mean, openly saying this, we're going to run the government.
00:26:22.440 We want Judaism to be the law of the land. And I have never seen anything such, any such thing
00:26:32.320 happening in America or anywhere in the world. But with Islam, we see it happening all the time.
00:26:38.380 It was a young lady that's very intelligent. She literally had the most views out of any person
00:26:42.080 I interviewed named Elika. And Elika was talking about the scapegoating theology of how these countries
00:26:50.340 are scapegoating Israel. And therefore, people are overlooking the connection between the far right,
00:26:57.660 the far left, and how they're joining together to scapegoat Israel and hate Israel when they should
00:27:03.440 be focusing on, like, for instance, and I don't like to bring up people's names, but there's Tucker
00:27:08.040 Carlson that came on and he did an interview. I don't know. Has he ever interviewed you?
00:27:11.420 He has, yes. Both on his TV show and in his long form podcast. But he used to have taken a slight
00:27:18.080 turn these days.
00:27:19.840 But back when he interviewed you, he agreed with you? Or at least he...
00:27:22.960 I mean, we didn't specifically talk about, you know, Israel and the Jews then. It was a lot more
00:27:28.500 about my scientific work in evolutionary psychology and so on. We talked about, you know, the Canadian
00:27:34.160 wokeness because I'm Canadian. But I would have never predicted that he would have some of the animus
00:27:41.540 that he is exhibiting these days towards Israel.
00:27:44.800 It's very interesting because I saw him go on a show the other day. He was interviewing someone and he
00:27:49.280 had made mention that he's okay with giving condolences to the families of Osama bin Laden.
00:27:55.780 And he had also mentioned that he don't think... Pretty much saying that he don't think that Hamas
00:27:59.840 is a militant group or a terrorist group. He'd think that they're a political group or something
00:28:04.660 he said. And I just... I don't know what is happening. And is there a PR movement to change
00:28:15.040 the thinking? Because I get killed online. Like, people are going to be mad at me for doing this
00:28:19.780 interview, which I... Whatever. But I just don't see the reason for the hatred against Jews. And I
00:28:28.240 don't necessarily think people should hate every single person that's Muslim. But I do think people
00:28:32.480 should be aware of what's happening and what they're saying out of their own mouths and their
00:28:39.220 deliberate takeover all over the world. Essentially, that's what the goal is.
00:28:43.440 Well, let me put it this way. Look, you know who Malcolm Gladwell is? Malcolm Gladwell is a
00:28:53.240 best-selling author, you know, who writes these kind of slurpy kind of books, but fine. He came out
00:29:02.560 when the transgender craze was going crazy, very much on the side of it's ridiculous to say something
00:29:08.960 is male or female. It's ridiculous that transgender women can't compete with biological women and so
00:29:16.880 on, right? And then just a few days ago, he suddenly came out and said, yeah, I guess I was cowed by all
00:29:24.140 my progressive friends, you know, mea culpa and so on. Well, of course, he said that now because
00:29:30.120 he realizes that the winds are changing, that it is no longer as cool to call a six-foot-four guy who
00:29:37.560 yesterday played for the Baltimore Ravens, but now calls himself Linda to share the bathroom with
00:29:44.680 your daughter. But these parasitic ideas are so alluring that we can actually have debates in the
00:29:53.940 21st century about what constitutes male or female, right? So until 15 minutes ago, the 117 billion people
00:30:03.440 who've ever existed on earth seem to be able to completely navigate the conundrum of what constitutes
00:30:10.160 male or female. But once I took women's studies courses at Oberlin College, I learned that I had
00:30:17.020 been transphobic and that some women have nine-inch penises. Well, that exact same logic is what causes
00:30:25.600 people to have Osama bin Laden on tape saying that we are so proud of what we did on 9-11 and you've got
00:30:35.360 19 guys called Muhammad, Ahmad, Ahmad, Muhammad, Hussein, Muhammad, Muhammad, Mahmoud, Muhammad. And the
00:30:43.620 conclusion to all that, it's that those guys are really Mossad agents. They're Jewish. That's why I wrote
00:30:51.780 The Parasitic Mind. That's why I'm writing Suicidal Empathy, because it is a cancer to the human soul,
00:30:59.240 right? What makes us human? It's that we have the capacity to use our prefrontal cortex to think
00:31:06.980 and navigating through reality. But once you are zombified, suddenly I become the biggest threat,
00:31:14.380 whereas Hamas are your freedom fighters. Can we de-zombify people if that's an actual term?
00:31:22.840 Because I feel at times, and it's discouraging at times, and I'm being honest, and I've been doing
00:31:28.440 this on online stuff for like seven years now, and millions of followers and so many tens of
00:31:36.320 thousands of comments. I think we have a billion views on YouTube. So I've been doing it a while,
00:31:39.780 but I am perplexed. And I don't know if we can de-zombify people, because I tried to interview
00:31:50.400 Benjamin Netanyahu. I don't know if you saw that interview. You know, I'm not a big interviewer
00:31:54.580 person. You say you didn't?
00:31:55.980 I did not. I'd like to watch it.
00:31:57.620 Yeah, you should check it out, because I'm not a big interviewer person. You're one of the few
00:32:02.880 people that I've ever interviewed. I want to start interviewing more to have these conversations,
00:32:06.800 because I learn a lot, and I think the audience will learn a lot. But I had an opportunity through
00:32:11.820 my girl, Jordan, who obviously set this interview up. She just got it. You know, she know how to do
00:32:17.380 this. So they said, look, he'll take the interview. And I'm like, I can't turn down an interview with
00:32:23.860 the prime minister. So I went online, and I asked my audience, the naysayers and the people who support
00:32:30.100 what I'm saying. What should I ask Benjamin Netanyahu? Now, of course, I'm pro-Israeli. I love
00:32:36.040 Israel. I love Jews. All of my Jewish friends, I love them to death. Like, I'm a normal human being,
00:32:41.980 right? I understand the connection between Israel and America. I understand the partnership. I
00:32:46.900 understand everything. I understand the benefit of us working together. I understand the historical
00:32:51.900 context, the religious context. So I said, let me be fair in asking these questions. I don't disagree
00:32:58.040 with the war in Gaza that Israel is waging. So I'm not going to chastise him over something I agree
00:33:04.940 with him on. But I wanted to give him an opportunity to speak on behalf of his country and what they're
00:33:10.020 doing or not doing and let people be the judge. He comes on. I do a 37-minute interview. They told
00:33:15.180 me 30 minutes, and they gave me seven extra minutes. And literally, they had bombed. Lebanon had
00:33:21.220 launched bombs into Israel, and they had to go in the shelter before the interview. So they had to delay
00:33:25.000 my interview for an hour. Benjamin Yahoo still came on to do the interview, even as they were
00:33:31.140 getting bombed. So I do the interview. People, if you, when you see the interview, look at the
00:33:38.600 comments section. When you go on my Instagram, it is the craziest stuff I've ever heard in my life.
00:33:44.980 No one shared a single clip of anything he said. And I asked him about the genocide accusation,
00:33:52.740 his own criminal accusation. They said he's going to prison or whatever. He's a war criminal.
00:33:58.280 The famine, the bombing of the hospital, the bombing of the Christian church in Gaza.
00:34:03.720 I asked him about everything people want to make. I think he gave a reasonable answer to all of them.
00:34:08.920 I couldn't really push back on it because I don't really have any evidence to dispute what he's
00:34:13.160 saying. Can people, because even with the interview, people lost their minds.
00:34:18.180 Do you think people can be recovered or we will forever have a state where people are completely
00:34:25.200 blinded? There is no antidote. There's no antibiotic we can give them that can get rid of
00:34:30.860 the parasite. Phenomenal question. Thank you. And I'm really looking forward to watching your
00:34:36.040 chat with Netanyahu. There is good news and bad news. Okay. Let me start with the bad news.
00:34:42.520 The bad news is that the capacity for human minds to be parasitized is regrettably an inherent part of
00:34:51.840 the architecture of the human mind. Meaning that 300 years ago, we thought if we were living in Salem,
00:34:59.200 Massachusetts, that it was perfectly reasonable if we thought that our neighbor was a potential witch
00:35:05.360 to throw her into water. And if she actually swam, that proved that she was a witch. And therefore,
00:35:12.100 we must burn her at the stake. But if she drowned, oops, I guess she wasn't a witch. So she died,
00:35:17.860 but at least she died having saved her honor that she's not a witch. And people organized their lives
00:35:24.320 around that parasitic thought. So the weakness and frailties of the human minds are such that there
00:35:33.400 will always be a new brain worm that comes along that leads us down the abyss of being the wood cricket
00:35:40.560 who jumps into water and commits suicide. Now, here's the good news. There is a vaccine against
00:35:47.660 each new generation of parasitic thoughts. The problem is that oftentimes people don't want to
00:35:55.660 come to the vaccine station to receive their mind vaccine, right? So they go, la, la, la, la, la. I don't
00:36:00.860 want to hear it. So let me give you an example. I shared, so have you heard of the Muslim grooming
00:36:09.460 gangs in Britain? Are you familiar with that story? Okay. So of course, Tommy Robinson has been at the
00:36:15.680 forefront of that. I've been warning about this for decades. I'm glad that now more people are hearing
00:36:20.640 about it largely because Elon Musk suddenly became aware of it and he's got the biggest platform in the
00:36:26.460 world. And so at one point, I put up the names of 20 perpetrators in one city. It's a small city
00:36:36.120 called Huddersfield. So they're called the Huddersfield 20. Okay. So let me give you a sense of
00:36:42.240 what their names sound like. You're ready? Muhammad Ahmed, Ahmed Hussain, Ali Muhammad Mahmood, Mahmood Akbar
00:36:50.940 Jihad Muhammad. So I put up those 20 names. And in my usual inimitable sarcasm, I said, I'm not smart
00:36:59.260 enough to be able to identify what is the unifying theme across these 20 names. Could somebody help me
00:37:07.680 out? Well, just like the comments that you received after interviewing Netanyahu, do you want to know
00:37:15.480 what many people, many, many people wrote to me? What was the unifying theme? It wasn't that they
00:37:21.960 were Muslim. Do you know what it was? You know what was the cause? It was the Jews. You know why?
00:37:29.320 Do you know why? Can you take a guess? I can't even imagine how they... Oh, get ready. Get ready. Fasten
00:37:36.960 your seatbelt. Okay. This is going to get good because it turns out that Britain's immigration policy
00:37:44.520 is actually run behind the scene by Jews, even though that's demonstrably false, but it doesn't...
00:37:52.200 Facts don't matter when I'm a Jew hater. And therefore, when three Mohammeds gang raped your
00:37:59.060 daughter, the real culprit is Moses. You see the mathematical equation? Three Mohammed equals Moses.
00:38:07.080 Now, I come on shows like yours precisely because I hold out hope that we could change people's minds.
00:38:15.160 But here's the problem. In addition to most people not willing to listen, la, la, la, I don't want to
00:38:20.540 hear it. Here's the second problem is that most of the silent majority who agrees with you and I
00:38:28.580 are silent. And so what ends up happening, the loud voices, the big monster that's coming
00:38:35.740 is not stopped because here's what happens. Most people, I receive, I don't know, thousands and
00:38:42.240 thousands of fan emails. Let me tell you what the structure of the email is. You're ready?
00:38:48.600 Dear Professor Saad, four paragraphs of beautiful compliments. And here's the last sentence. You're
00:38:56.140 ready? If you decide to read this letter on your show, please don't mention my name. So I write
00:39:04.620 back to them and I say, dear so-and-so, thank you very much for the nice words, but I couldn't help
00:39:11.220 but notice your last sentence. Do you think that we are in the current problem precisely because of
00:39:17.080 your last sentence? So to answer your question in a very long-winded way, but hopefully interesting
00:39:23.680 way, we can't defeat these parasitic ideas as long as it is only a few people that carry the burden
00:39:33.380 of fighting against the tsunami of evidence against everybody else while all the cowards sit in the
00:39:40.700 background sending me compliments but never willing to share in the risk, right? I had to take a two-year
00:39:48.500 leave of absence from my home university in Montreal because it was too threatening, dangerous for me to
00:39:56.800 enter campus, right? I had to have security. In the 21st century, a Canadian professor cannot enter his
00:40:05.880 university. Well, why is that happening? Because most of the people who send me lovely words say,
00:40:11.740 please don't mention that I support you. So if I can't get you to be courageous enough, nevermind for
00:40:18.020 you to utter the words, but to just stand next to me and I will utter the words, then we're doomed,
00:40:25.120 my good man. Oh man, that is the truest thing I've ever heard. And I think it just continues to happen
00:40:33.360 in history on and on and on. You know, I see people do me like that all the time, you know, on all topics,
00:40:39.560 you know, there's a couple of celebrities that send me an inbox and they're like, Oh, I love
00:40:43.360 everything you do. And I'm like, do you, your platform is 10 times the size of mine. Like if
00:40:48.580 you just shared one post that I did, people will kind of get that. It is cool to buy this.
00:40:55.860 And the same thing happens with, um, with the Israel thing. Like there's so many people that inbox me and
00:41:00.800 they, they write me little comments, but man, I feel like I'm the only one. And I know people who
00:41:05.980 are Zionist who are whatever they call it, they support Israel or whatever. I know them. They
00:41:11.580 talk to me. They agree with me. They like the post. They will never say any of the things on any of
00:41:19.380 their platforms. They won't say a thing. And it, and it, and it bothers me. I try not to be upset
00:41:24.120 about it. Cause I know people are afraid of backlash and some people have more to lose than I do
00:41:27.960 because I own my own company. So only person that can fire me is if I fire myself and some other people
00:41:33.500 work for other people and they may get fired. So I get that part. But at the end of the day,
00:41:37.340 it's like, dude, don't leave me out to dry. Like, can some of y'all at least say something?
00:41:41.660 Can some of y'all stand up for Israel? Because, and people think I get paid by the Israeli government
00:41:46.440 and, and I, and I, and I'm, I'm starting to, I'm going to start sending like big influencers
00:41:50.380 that say it, I'm going to send them a cease and desist. And I'm, and I'm going to tell them
00:41:53.560 they have to take their video down. I'm going to sue them because it's a flat out lie
00:41:57.500 and a defamatory thing to say, I'm getting paid to have an opinion. And doctor, the only reason
00:42:03.100 that I have an opinion, or at least I'm, cause when I went to Israel, I fell in love with Israel.
00:42:07.680 It was a wonderful place. It was way till you see the interview too. Cause I'm going to tell you
00:42:12.780 this one part that happened in the interview that went viral and nothing went viral, but this part.
00:42:17.260 And I will tell you in a second, but I went to Israel, I got pictures and videos and stuff. And
00:42:22.080 I was looking at them last night and I might post a couple of them because people claim that
00:42:26.200 Christians are not welcome in Israel and you know, people hate them. And we are literally
00:42:30.720 worshiping God in Israel. We're talking about Jesus in Israel on the sea of Galilee,
00:42:36.580 the Mount of Beatitudes. We had a whole sermon there. I was, we would talk about Jesus everywhere
00:42:41.260 in Israel. I literally got Jesus is Lord in Hebrew tattooed on my arm in Jerusalem. So I could never
00:42:48.200 do this in Arabic and in Gaza, anywhere in the middle East, they'll probably chop that arm off.
00:42:53.860 Um, but this is what went viral out of my whole interview with it. Benjamin and Yahoo, um, was
00:43:00.640 he was, I was, I asked him a question about how to, what is the treatment of Christians? What
00:43:05.320 from the perspective of the prime minister, how do you feel about Christians? Are they treated
00:43:09.660 properly? Whatever. He's, he goes on to say what he says that obviously they're not just tolerated.
00:43:15.320 They're celebrated and Christians are very welcome. They can serve in the Knesset and they can serve in,
00:43:19.240 I think they can serve in the Knesset, but they can serve in the military, you know, his church is
00:43:23.100 there. I mean, I was there. So, and then I said, but there was only one incident that happened when
00:43:28.100 I came on a tour and there was a little kid. He was three, he had to be three or four. He was barely
00:43:33.500 walking, he was scooting on a, on a, on a little unicorn that his mama was dragging on Orthodox family.
00:43:38.440 It was just the mom and him. We were letting them pass through a corridor. We would let them walk
00:43:42.460 first and then we walked through. So, but the kid, he's about 50 feet away from us. He gets off the cart,
00:43:48.640 the little thing. And he go, and he spit. And I laughed at him because I didn't know what he was
00:43:53.520 doing. To be honest. I'm like, he just, he just spit at us. That's funny to me. It was funny. Like
00:43:59.000 this kid is crazy. And so he gets closer to us. Cause we let them pass. He passed me and he went
00:44:04.520 over to the pastor. And when he passed by the pastor, he went and spit on the pastor's pant leg.
00:44:09.160 And I told Benjamin and Yahoo in an interview, I said, this, we were there. And the only thing that
00:44:13.080 happened was this thing. And immediately when that kid did that, an adult came and rebuked the kid
00:44:18.140 and said, that's not the way we do this. That's not acceptable. We love you guys. You're always
00:44:23.340 welcome. Like there's some weirdos that live here, but for the most part, we love you guys.
00:44:28.520 I want you guys to know that don't get dissuaded by these idiots. And I may mention, and you're not
00:44:34.060 who laughed about it or whatever, but the internet blew up. If you find any interview, any document
00:44:40.720 from my interview is that, and people like, Oh, you just got spit on once. Oh, you get spit on and
00:44:45.340 it's okay. This is why Christians aren't accepted. And I almost regret telling the truth about what
00:44:49.900 happened because people have ran with it as if it's literally indicative of the hatred of Christians.
00:44:56.700 And well, so let me, I, I, well, first I'm sorry that you faced this even at the, at the, uh,
00:45:02.760 hands of a, of a child. Uh, it's certainly not a normalized behavior. Look, I navigate through both
00:45:09.420 the Jewish world and the, the Arabic world. Now today, more people recognize me obviously than
00:45:16.080 say 25 years ago. So a lot of the Muslims who would have been more open with me in the past
00:45:22.280 will now bite their tongues. Right. But in the past, before people knew me the way that they do today,
00:45:28.640 when I would speak in Arabic to Muslims, it would usually take one step before we converge on let's
00:45:35.880 kill the Jews. Right. So I say, hi, Ahmed. And then the rebuttal is let's kill the Jews. Right. So
00:45:42.260 it doesn't take much. Okay. Sometimes I don't have to say hi, Ahmed. The, the, the, the salutation is
00:45:47.380 let's kill the Jews. Okay. So it is enshrined within the tapestry of Islamic societies to hate
00:45:55.800 all non-Muslims. Now I've navigated, I'm 60 years old today. So I've hung around with a lot of Jews.
00:46:02.260 My family's Jewish. I have never once, never, not one time we come from the Middle East,
00:46:10.020 never heard. And we went through some very, very harsh realities. My, my parents were kidnapped
00:46:15.520 by Fatah and tortured. We escaped execution in Lebanon. We've never, ever said things like,
00:46:23.820 I wish we can get rid of Muslims. I wish we can get rid of Arabs. It's not part of our makeup. Now,
00:46:29.340 does that mean that there aren't, forgive the term, asshole Jews who are racist and bigots?
00:46:35.100 Of course not. There are nice Muslims and mean Muslims, nice Christians, mean Christians,
00:46:39.840 and so on for Jews. But is it something that is codified in daily lives of Jews to hate on
00:46:46.680 Christians? Absolutely not. I've never seen it. Does that mean that you can't find some idiot,
00:46:52.980 ultra Orthodox who is bigoted? Of course you can, because he's a human being. Many human beings have dark
00:46:58.880 hearts, but let's not compare the hatred that Islam will have towards Christians versus whatever
00:47:06.080 reality you faced on that day.
00:47:08.740 Right. And it was, and I said in the interview, people played a full context. I say, you know,
00:47:13.680 that was just one, and the little kid, he was a three-year-old. It was inconsequential to me,
00:47:18.220 to be honest. Every other person had been so excellent. So we had so, you had so much of a fun time
00:47:26.100 everywhere we went in Israel. I mean, we were in Tiberias. We went to Natanya. We went, you know,
00:47:32.840 to Jerusalem. We stayed there for a couple of days. We went down to the Dead Sea. I mean, we were all
00:47:37.560 over. I can't remember all the places, you know, it was only when the two weeks was just the first
00:47:41.560 time I ever went. And I don't remember a lot of places. I got the pictures of them, but we went
00:47:45.300 everywhere and everybody was nice at the hotel, at the restaurants, at the markets. It was so good
00:47:51.340 that I love. I fell in love. And I was like, I want to go back every year to Israel and just stay
00:47:56.700 here for a while and experience some of the holy sites, but then also enjoy the food. And, you know,
00:48:02.780 we didn't even go to Tel Aviv and I'm not really a secular type person. I don't enjoy the weirdness
00:48:08.580 of New York. I like wouldn't go to a party or nothing, but, but I didn't experience Tel Aviv,
00:48:13.300 which was probably a more modern area than some of the holy sites. And it's probably more popping
00:48:17.460 and a lot more friendly and people are there. And it's everybody having a good time. Like you do
00:48:21.200 in New York, probably a bunch of restaurants and just a little bit more fun. And I, you know,
00:48:25.920 I loved it, man. And people took that one incident where the little kid did the little
00:48:30.160 spat thing on a pastor with us one time. And that pastor had gone there over 50 times. He had taken
00:48:35.980 a tour of his church 20 times and he had never, he told me he had never been spit on or nothing like
00:48:41.160 that. This is the first time he experienced somebody doing that. And, and I can see how,
00:48:45.920 you know, because there's thousands of Christians there. We were, it was 200 people with just our
00:48:50.140 tour. There was thousands of other people doing tours and Orthodox and people from different
00:48:54.980 religions. And you're not going to see that in, in Gaza. You just, you just wouldn't, they wouldn't
00:48:59.960 even let us go to Gaza. It was too dangerous. Like, you know, we were touring. They were like,
00:49:03.200 no, we can't go to Gaza strip. Like it's too dangerous. Like something could happen while you
00:49:08.480 guys are here and you wouldn't want that. Well, just for you to know, I I'm, I'm sure that you
00:49:12.640 probably know these stats, 20% of Israel is non-Jewish, right? You earlier, you mentioned
00:49:18.780 the Knesset. Well, Muslim Israelis can serve in the Knesset name, name such a reality. You know,
00:49:28.360 can I serve as a Jew in, in Oman or in Saudi Arabia or in Pakistan or in Somalia? Could I go
00:49:35.400 to Mogadishu with a big star of David? No, of course not. Could I do it in Algeria? Of course I
00:49:40.580 couldn't. So again, it's a complete inversion of reality. It's exactly what Freud called
00:49:46.580 Freudian projection, right? So I project onto you exactly what I do, right? And so I hate the
00:49:56.360 Christians. I'm speaking now if I were a Muslim, but then I will say, look, it's the Jew who really
00:50:02.460 hates it. It's the Jews who killed Christ, right? But the reality is, by the way, in the Middle East,
00:50:09.140 what often ends up happening is that all of the religious minorities end up ganging up on the Jews
00:50:15.720 because the other religious minorities want to show that they are just as committed to hating on
00:50:23.780 the Jews. So oftentimes I've been asked, for example, would the Lebanese Christians show any
00:50:28.580 hatred towards the Jews? And the answer that they're expecting is no, no, no, the Christians love the Jews.
00:50:33.940 Now some did, but many were actually as anti-Semitic as the Muslims because they also realized that if
00:50:41.500 they don't show their hatred to the Jews, then Ahmed over there is going to say, hey, what's up with
00:50:48.080 you, Joseph? How come you're not hating the Jew as much as I am? And so that's part of the psychology,
00:50:53.460 by the way, in the Middle East, it's called a dimmi. A dimmi is an Arabic word. When you write it in
00:50:59.380 English, it's D-H-I-M-M-I, dimmi. It's a Quranic term that refers to the Christians and Jews who live
00:51:07.700 under Islamic dominion, right? So the Muslims pat you on the head, they tolerate you as long as you
00:51:15.380 keep quiet. So we will maybe tolerate you, Jew, but don't wear a big star of David because if you wear
00:51:21.640 that big star of David, then you are being, you're inciting me, you're upsetting me. So if I kill you,
00:51:27.560 you really deserved it because you were too proud in your Judaism. How many people did you see when
00:51:33.540 you were in Israel wearing the full hijab and so on? Did you see any Jews going around and harassing
00:51:39.920 the Muslim women? No. So Judaism is not a supremacist religion. By the way, when people say
00:51:46.900 the chosen ones, that the Jews are the chosen ones, I actually asked once a rabbi, a very learned
00:51:53.880 rabbi, I said, what is the concept of the chosen one? It does seem kind of a bit arrogant. He said,
00:51:59.660 no, what chosen one means is that God has asked you to live as pious a life as possible so that if
00:52:08.920 other people look at you, they are, you know, emboldened by your piety. In that sense, you're chosen.
00:52:15.980 But there is nothing in Judaism that says, I am better than you because I'm Jewish and
00:52:22.080 you're not. Try to read the Quran and to see, and see what they say about the Jews in there.
00:52:27.900 Yeah. And we, we have, we have to add this conversation because people will, will push
00:52:32.420 back and say the Talmud. And now I've never read the Talmud. I studied a little bit of it online.
00:52:37.560 You know, I just, just trying to get a 30,000 viewpoint of what the Talmud is. And of course,
00:52:43.060 there's inferences or places where there's a critique of Jesus, right? And I learned a little
00:52:49.760 bit that some of the Catholic church influence kind of cartel some of the verbiage in the Talmud to
00:52:56.660 remove the name of Jesus and put the man or something like that. So there's references that
00:53:01.600 maybe Jesus or at least the thought process of the, the rabbis during a certain dispensation of time
00:53:07.080 believe that Jesus is in hell or, you know, there's other things that are there. And there's,
00:53:11.480 and when I was reading, I realized there's context to it. There's reasons for the discussions to be
00:53:16.360 had at a time in which it was had, which I don't think that even today, the discussions will be
00:53:20.860 even the same as it was in some places in the Talmud. But we have to, next time we come on an
00:53:25.600 interview, because I know you're a busy man and I got to do my live show. But next time we come on
00:53:30.240 interview, I want to talk about some of those things. Cause I feel like that you're very versed in all of
00:53:34.560 these aspects. You've been alive long enough, twice as long as me almost. So you, you've had a lot of
00:53:40.200 experience, a lot of wisdom, and I want to pick your brain on a couple of these other things in
00:53:44.120 a very fair way, because people think I'm just out here doing stuff. I want to learn. Like, I don't
00:53:49.240 know much about the Talmud as much, except for what I had mentioned with a basic research. I've never read
00:53:53.960 it. Um, so, but eventually I think we could talk about that in a, in a, that'd be great. I'd love to
00:53:58.840 appreciate it because I really enjoyed this. I mean, we could talk for five hours to be quite
00:54:02.440 honest. Thank you. That was great. And I, so I can imagine that the Joe Rogan thing was like a breeze,
00:54:07.200 but where can people find you, follow you, support you and also get the book. I need to get both of
00:54:13.080 the books that you had mentioned. Cause I feel like I gained a lot of wisdom by just reading them.
00:54:16.960 Thank you, sir. Uh, so I have a website called Gadsad, G-A-D-S-A-A-D.com. You could follow me on
00:54:24.560 Gadsad, uh, the books are available everywhere. Suicidal Empathy is not out yet. I'm currently
00:54:32.080 working on it. I'm trying to speed up the timeline, uh, because it's really, the concept has gone
00:54:38.560 viral. I could literally do a search online and it's covered in maybe 60 languages and the book is
00:54:44.820 not even out yet. And so I'm hoping that Suicidal Empathy will be out probably in spring 2026. So maybe
00:54:52.820 in about six months, uh, God willing. And, uh, yeah, connect with me, send me emails. I can't
00:54:59.540 promise to answer everybody, but what I can promise is I try to read every single email. So, uh, it's been
00:55:05.540 a pleasure. Thank you for your support. Thank you for what you do. And, uh, hopefully we can continue
00:55:11.140 at another time. Well, thank you so much for coming on. God bless you. And I appreciate it.
00:55:16.780 Thank you, sir. Cheers.
00:55:18.740 All right.