My Chat with Brigitte Gabriel, On Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinians, and Islam (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_669)
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Brigitte Gabriel is a National Security Analyst, a New York Times best-selling author, and the Chairperson of ACT for Americana, a non-profit organization dedicated to fighting radical Islamic terrorism. She is also a Believer in Judeo-Christian values and freedom.
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guys oh boy fasten your seat belts today i've got i mean people say that i'm the lebanese
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honey badger but i think the real lebanese honey badger is here with us brigitte gabriel how you
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doing good thank you i'm so glad that we finally connected uh i'm going to read your bio then we're
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going to do a little bit of niceties in arabic and then we will jump straight down let me let
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me first tell people who you are you're a national security analyst a new york time best-selling
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author and chairman of act for america.org your latest bestseller is rise in defense of judo
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judeo-christian values and freedom two earlier books both of which were also very successful
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because they hate a survivor of islamic terror warns america warnings 20 years ago and then they must be
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defeated why we must defeat radical islam and how we can do it did i cover the key points
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i just said that i'm so excited to be meeting you and that we just want to say a couple of things in
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arabic and she said this is we're we're breaking new grounds here guys first time ever that she
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breaks out the beautiful arabic one quick um accent issue how do you say room in your accent
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uda see we say room like uda yeah yeah yeah you say i knew i was hoping you'd say that because that's
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a christian dialect we say how do you say i want to eat but the ankle but the ankle we say but the
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ankle so you have the palestinian exactly i'm the real palestinian that's right you have the
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palestinian accent what's good i have the lebanese accent lebanese
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okay so let's start your your personal story is an incredible one many people know it but others
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don't please walk us through your history in lebanon and then leaving lebanon well actually
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what i want to start with how amazing it is to be with you as a jewish lebanese most people don't
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even think or know that jews lived in lebanon as lebanese when when they think of jews people forgot
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about the jews who lived in arabic countries or arabic speaking countries because you know we in
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lebanon we're not arabs you're arab phones okay i want to make sure we clarify that um but a lot of
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people do not talk about the the jewish people who were kicked out of arabic countries who are no longer
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overliving in the areas where they were born in the homes where they built um through their fathers
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and their grandparents etc because they became refugees they were kicked out of their arabic
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countries and you know they cannot go back the majority of them over one million jews from arab land
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are refugees who are accepted by the state of israel you don't hear about them because obviously israel
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absorbed them uh they they you know they have a life there so they're not screaming about we want to go
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back to our land they accepted okay we'll go to the jewish state and we live there the reason why i
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bring this point up god is because when you look at the palestinian issue right now none of the arabic
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countries want them they do not want them to come they do not want them to have a life there and this
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is exactly why we are seeing this problem like cancer mushroom on you know never treated and so you
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know i it's amazing to be with you as a jewish lebanese um and here i am a christian lebanese we
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both speak the same language pretty much as the exception of a little uh difference in the dialect
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we probably eat the same food we both love belly dancing and we both love fairuz
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and we both love fairuz exactly you know i used to uh this is several years ago whenever i would bring
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on a arabic speaking guest i would joke with them and say i'm going to sing you a song in arabic if
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you guess who it is then this guarantees me that you are not an israeli spy if you don't guess who it is
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then you are jesus israeli and usually they get my singing ability is restricted to fairuz so it was
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i would just go through the different songs of fairuz with the different guests
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wow wow yeah she's an icon icon all over the middle east she's still alive she's still alive
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she's in her 80s uh you know i still check on the lebanese news i go to my facebook and you know
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nostalgia because i cannot go back to lebanon you know huzbollah wants my head on a platter
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um because you know we have an occupied country right now by a terrorist regime a terrorist organization
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funded by iran huzbollah the only difference is they carry lebanese passports while probably
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i do not know if you still carry a lebanese passport but i can't get a lebanese passport
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yeah uh you know and i and i don't want to but in any way you know uh so the nostalgia you know i i
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still think about lebanon i miss lebanon i miss the food so i go back on lebanese different websites
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and i listen to the music and it's amazing you know when you grew up in a certain way like today
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when i'm sipping my coffee in the morning i'm listening to fairuz in the morning you know fairuz
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yet and i listen to all my arabic music it's who i am it made me who i am today you know
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those first 18 years of your life determine who you're going to be and what makes you for the rest
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of your life um and i'm grateful i was raised in a great culture um that respects people respects
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diversity that is an inclusive culture unfortunately that's all on our side the jewish christian side
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because we want to get along with everybody and the muslims don't exactly share our feelings
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do you do you i want to i want you to go through all of your personal history in a second but
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since we're jumping ahead now do you think there is ever a hope inshallah in our lifetimes that you
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and i would ever be able to take our family and go back if only to visit or do you think
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that window closed long time ago uh i i don't see any hope right now uh and us going back and
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visiting i remember taking my children uh to israel in 2018 and i wanted to see uh lebanon and i
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remember going up to mizgav am in israel on the border with lebanon and i remember my children and i
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and my son-in-law are looking through the binocular and i'm pointing marja yoon to them you know this
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is my town this is where i was raised and looking through the binocular you know this is the uh this
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is where my home used to be this is the school that my father built that my children will never lay
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eyes on you know and that's why i tell people all the time when i'm speaking when i'm fundraising
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when i am talking about why we need to preserve our civilization i tell my i tell people what good
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is it to create wealth if you cannot leave your children a country in which they can live
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yeah very my children will never ever lay eyes on what their grandparents my mom and my dad have
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built or contributed to or supported or nothing my my children will never um see their my father's
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name their grandfather's name on any hospital or any school or any church on anything you know we
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can't go back yeah until we defeat huzbollah in iran very true uh you know one of my only regrets so
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far as a parent is uh that i haven't inculcated our children with the richness of our heritage so
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i i also speak do you speak hebrew oh very nice both my own uh so so so we so you know i speak of
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course arabic hebrew french and english french again because we grew up in in lebanon which
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right and my wife also she's lebanese armenian so she speaks armenian so between the two of us
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we speak five languages but the problem was brigitte that if i spoke to them in arabic or
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hebrew my wife would be out of the game because she doesn't speak arabic because she came too early
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to to montreal if she speaks in armenian i don't understand so we ended up settling on only french
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and english and i so regret that my children can't just come to your house and speak to you in arabic
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because frankly even though i'm jewish to your earlier point my culture is arabic i i speak arabic
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i listen to arabic music i eat arabic food but people don't appreciate that you could be christian
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you could be jewish and be fully arabic in your ethnicity and orientation uh exactly look we appreciate
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the best of the culture in which we were raised uh i love middle eastern music i love belly dancing this
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is how i exercise i belly dance uh i don't do yoga i don't do aerobics that's my form of exercising
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um when i listen to music in my home that's what i listen to uh the food that i cook uh i make all
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the traditional lebanese food in my home and but i agree with you because when my children were growing
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up even though they ate the lebanese food you know they used to wine i would make them the stuffed
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grape leaves the stuffed kusa you know and all these traditional food them etc and they would say
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to me why can't we eat you know macaroni and cheese like normal people food you know and here i stood
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three hours cooking and stuffing grape leaves and rolling grape leaves or making baklava or tabbouli
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and all of that stuff and um but finally now that they are adults they gravitated back to those memories
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growing up with mommy in the kitchen dicing the parsley making the tabbouli now they look at it
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now they adopted that culture i don't regret not teaching them arabic and here is why as a woman i
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will never regret growing up in lebanon and you know in lebanon uh you're familiar with the phrase
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when we would serve the coffee meaning may god cover your shame with a husband because as a single
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woman when you're not married you are a shame just to exist unless you are married and i told my
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children because they would ask me how come you're not teaching us arabic and i said i never ever want
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you to go i don't you want you to even understand that statement if anybody ever said it to you because
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i don't want your here your ears being soiled by such language and so i don't regret not teaching
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them arabic as a woman i'm very independent i'm a feminist um but they got all the other good stuff
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oh very nice okay so give us a brief summary of your harrowing i mean i've got my own harrowing
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story trying to escape lebanon but i think yours is certainly as difficult give us a brief synopsis
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and then we can drill down into some of the current realities that we're facing in the west
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oh god well um my story is pretty much the story of a lot of christian lebanese you know i was born
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into the country that used to be paris of the middle east the banking capital of the middle east
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between 1965 and 1975 beirut and lebanon were experiencing an amazing economic boom explosion
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tourists from all over the world coming to vacation in lebanon we were open-minded we were fair we were
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tolerant we were multicultural we had open borders we welcomed everyone from the surrounding arabic
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countries who wanted to come and study in our universities because we had built the best
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universities in the middle east as you know uh muslims send their children from all over the islamic
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world they graduated and worked in our economy because we had built the best economy in the middle east
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even though we did not have any oil unfortunately all that began to change as we imported people into
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our country who did not share our values and what i mean by that is we imported palestinian refugees who
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came to our country lebanon was the only country in the arabic world to accept the third wave of
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palestinian refugees after king hossein kicked them out of jordan they came to lebanon they put their
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heads together with the muslims in lebanon and they declared war on the christians they wanted to
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create a base from which to fight israel kill the jews and throw them into the sea something they tried
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to do in jordan but they failed because of the dictatorship of king hossein but they were able
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to use lebanese democracy to topple our democracy and that's when the war started um i come from southern
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lebanon and a little town called marjayun on the border uh with israel marjayun um and um you know
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we were a small christian town on the border and the palestinians had formed jaish libn al-arabi
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the arabic lebanese army they started with the muslims at that time uh led by ahmad al-hatib who was the
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uh guy who headed it and they started splitting the army so and taking over military bases well i lived
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about 50 yards below the military base in marjayun as the palestinian tried to shell the military base
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to take it over 14 shells exploded in my home falling short of the military base bringing my home
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down and burying me under the rebel wounded um i ended up in the hospital for two and a half months
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and later ended up living in a bomb shelter underground uh it was like an eight by ten room
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no electricity no water very little food because the palestinians and the islamists surrounded us
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and cut off the electricity cut off water supply to our town uh cut off food supplies but thankfully we
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lived in the mountains so we had uh marjayun was called valley of spring marjayun uh that's where it
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gets its name we had seven springs in our town and that became my existence and that's where i lived in
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that bomb shelter for seven years of my life robbed of my youth wow and then after you were able to leave
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you left to israel correct correct and how how many years did you spend in israel i lived in israel from
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1984 till 1989 i became news anchor for world news in the middle east based out of jerusalem israel
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wow and did you so prior to going to israel because yes of course there's a lot of anti-semitism that
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comes from the islamic community but in all fairness we also know that many christian arabs don't hold
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the most warm feelings towards the jews so as you made your way to israel were you inculcated with some
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of those nasty feelings about the jews and then were surprised by it or in your own upbringing you had
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never experienced the the typical jew hatred that you see in the middle east uh i never experienced
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the jew hatred personally in my home uh remember the war broke out i was 10 years old and then we
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were cut off from the rest of lebanon so my parents never really hated anybody they were church going
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you know uh they always you know you hear it on the news you know lebanese news israel azrael which is
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the name of satan uh they would be playing how the palestinian refugees the poor palestinians
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are coming to lebanon we're taking them in so these were the official talking points of the
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lebanese government because they control lebanese television but in my home i never heard anything
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like that when the war broke out israel was our only lifeline because i look god when when we were
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in the bomb shelter and we as the christians we were surrounded to be slaughtered by the muslims
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and the palestinians and i remember one night i think i was around 13 years old one of our
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militia man stopped by and he said brigitte i just want you to know that we are surrounded to
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be slaughtered tonight we heard a lot of chatter on the radio and i don't think we're gonna last
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because we lost a lot of men we don't have enough to defend the town and he said if i don't see you
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tomorrow i wish you a merciful death and he gave me a hug and left wow and i remember at the age of 13
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dressing in my sunday best my easter dress because i wanted to look pretty when i am dead knowing that
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when they come to slaughter me there would be no one to bury me and i remember begging my mother i
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don't want to die i'm only 13 years old please do something and there was nothing my mother could say
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to me and i remember sitting in the corner of our bomb shelter and my father opened up the bible
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and started reading from psalms i shall walk into the valley of death and fear no evil for thou art
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with me and my parents said to me when they come to slaughter us tonight we will create a distraction
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we want you we just want you to run towards the israeli border and don't look back see we knew
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we lived five kilometers from the israeli border and we knew if we run to the jews and beg for help
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the jews are not going to slaughter us because we had more shared values with them than we had with
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the muslims and thank god i didn't have to make that decision that night because that's the night
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when israel came in physically into lebanon in 1978 and set up artillery bases around the the hill
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surrounding our town to protect us and created the security zone um and that's how we lived until
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1984 when israel invaded lebanon working with the christians trying to help the christians
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take back their democracy and kick out the radical islamic element that had taken control of the
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country at that time because by the time israel entered lebanon in 1982 we had 11 islamic terrorist
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organizations operating out of lebanon including the plo so while i was growing up in the bomb shelter
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as a teenager my only knowledge of the world of any friend we ever had or anybody that cared about us
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was israel not lebanon the lebanese government didn't care about us the rest of the world forgot
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about us i remember my father in the beginning of the war and he would say france is gonna come see
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what's happening to the christians in lebanon because of all the palestinian massacres against
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the christians my daddy would say france is gonna come and nobody came america's gonna come
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canada's gonna come australia's gonna come and the world forgot about us so growing up as a christian
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girl in southern lebanon the only friend i knew growing up at 13 14 15 16 17 were the israeli people
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israel and so when i moved and of course my mother was wounded in the war we ended up spending 22 days
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in the hospital in israel actually my life story is detailed in my first book titled because they
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hate i encourage people to get it it's a new york times bestseller the book sold over 1 million copies
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wow and it's a story it's an amazing story so i encourage people read the story in because they
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hate and so well my mother was wounded in the in the war we ended up in israel and those 22 days when
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i was 17 years old spending it in israel changed my life that's when i decided that's when i made a
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decision that i will go back to israel no matter what happens no matter the cost no matter what i have
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to do i had one goal and that is to go back to israel and from israel come to the united states
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and i ended up moving to israel in 1984 um and that's when i really developed my love for israel
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um my loyalty to israel my adaptation of israeli culture my appreciation and deep understanding
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of the of the jewish state look in israel you ride the bus you hear 32 languages on the bus every two
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people are speaking a different language uh i lived in jerusalem the most cosmopolitan city in the
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world um the culture the art the languages the intellect uh it was amazing uh and i knew in lebanon
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this did not exist in lebanon i mean israel was on a whole different level and as a lebanese and
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as a citizen of the world because i learned to appreciate um you know good traits good character
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good values and be able to start you know when you're 20 21 22 you're starting to compare you're
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starting to make up your mind as a young adult when you learn about the world and you see it through
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the lens of a young adult trying to make up your mind you learn you start seeing a difference you may
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not know the word for it but you start seeing a major difference and contrast between the two cultures
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and that's when i developed my true love and appreciation for israel and israelis so how do you
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i mean i know you've been doing this for many years now trying to warn people as i have how frustrating
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must it be for you i mean for both of us mjerbin right we've tried it we've been there listen to us we
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know what we're talking about to see the west so outlandishly clueless in their immigration policies
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in their foreign i mean it's literally as though every single thing that the west does is the
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perfectly incorrect thing do you see any possibility to wake our leaders up or are we in a death spiral
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that we're never going to get out of our you know unfortunately you know they say there's nothing
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new under the sun and history always repeats itself and they say those who are doomed from learning from
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history are doomed to repeat who those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it and so
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today you and i are speaking to each other in 2024 in the west and we are seeing the same signs of the
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holocaust what people thought it will never ever happen again we are seeing the same signs now play
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out on the streets of canada australia america worldwide i remember speaking when i first started
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speaking out after 9-11 um i was at a jewish home they were having a parlor meeting for me about the
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work that i was doing and in the audience was a holocaust survivor this was 2004 and i remember
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talking about the signs we're seeing the signs because i started a grassroots organization and i
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would travel and i would speak to different people all over america and i started seeing the signs
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in different communities and i said this is what you have to be careful of this is what's happening
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and that holocaust survivor stood up and left so angry at me because she did not want to believe
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that what i was saying was the truth and she tried to shoot down every single logical explanation i tried
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to put out as to why we need to organize now and why we need to be careful 2004 20 years ago
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and so the reason why history repeats itself is because people for whatever reason do not want to
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believe that can happen again because every generation thinks no our generation is different
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look look at teenagers and the youth every generation thinks oh we are so different than
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anybody that has ever came before us you know we're college kids we're going to change the world
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we're all going to have kumbaya we're all going to live peacefully together everybody's going to get
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along and we're going to change the whole world and it's going to be amazing every college
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graduate thought the same thing and then as you go through life and reality hits and you realize
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there's nothing new under the sun people are people and from the beginning of ages when you look
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through the theme through humanity from the beginning jealousy hatred love sex betrayal that's all the
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same thing i mean we're not doing anything new in the 21st century than what people did back 2 000
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years ago except today people are not waking up and what i'm and the reason why today uh we are not
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learning especially those of us who come from judeo-christian worldview is we are reflecting
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our values on evil people we just because you and i are not going to send our children to die
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and strap bombs on their bodies and then rejoice in their death and hand out candy we cannot fathom
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that a mother or a father could be so happy that their child died and i think that's the problem
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that's why in the west they are refusing to understand how can the palestinians the islamists
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because i'm going to say islamists whether you are a palestinian whether you are a somali who
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belonged to al-shabab um you know buka haram it doesn't matter what what what society what language
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you speak what passport you hold the common denominator between all these terrorist groups who are willing
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to sacrifice their own children is the islamic ideology and we people who come from judeo-christian
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worldview do not want to accept that there is a segment in that ideology that actually commands
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their people to do that well i actually there's a clip that has gone viral all over the internet from
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about seven eight years ago i had appeared on uh dave rubin's show and i know that you you also know
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and where i was trying to explain the the quote distinction between islam and islamism and i was
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explaining that islamism is a large inherent part of islam it's not something that's outside of it you
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know 90 of islam is political islam yes there are spiritual elements but those spiritual elements are
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dwarfed by the political ideology within islam that's why i don't like for example the terms
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i know you use it in one of your books radical islam or militant islam or extremist islam or
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islamism all those qualifiers for me are nonsensical islam is islam there are nice muslims who decide to
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ignore most of the stuff just like there are nice jews and nice christians and mean jews and mean christians
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but itself the ideology of islam is perfectly manufactured to be antithetical to western values
00:27:15.440
is there any hope that we can ever get people to understand that
00:27:19.580
you're gonna get some people to understand that and i think with isis a lot of people started opening
00:27:27.440
their eyes and saying why do they believe the same that they believe why do they carry a flag
00:27:33.500
that says la ilaha illallah muhammadun rasulullah there is no god but allah and muhammad is his
00:27:38.920
prophet uh which is the same words on the flag of saudi arabia for example uh the only difference is
00:27:45.380
one green and one is black uh you know and people shy away from confront people don't like confrontation
00:27:52.960
and people shy away from confronting difficult decisions and look you and i grew up in what in any
00:27:59.580
culture people tell you two things you don't discuss at the dinner table religion and politics
00:28:04.480
and what is islam it's a political ideology clocked in religion so we in the west avoid talking about
00:28:11.520
this and you know in my books i talk about that especially in my second book they must be stopped
00:28:16.380
is the title why we must defeat radical islam and how we can do it and i talk in particular about a study
00:28:22.740
that the pentagon did where they assigned a special unit to understand why you know very highly educated
00:28:31.420
young men and in some cases young women are willing to blow themselves up to smithereen where did this
00:28:38.940
ideology come from and when the pentagon they studied it for six months and finally the unit issued the
00:28:45.680
report the media ignored it as if it was nuclear and harmful to your health and here's why because it
00:28:52.320
pointed to one thing it's the religion itself it's the ideology itself no one wanted to talk about it
00:28:58.540
not only the pentagon refused to acknowledge the study but actually the second in command at the
00:29:05.660
pentagon who happened to be a muslim and a muslim brotherhood agent ended up firing steve coghlin
00:29:11.460
the guy who worked on the study and kicking him out of the pentagon and so we went through a period in the
00:29:18.260
united states especially under obama where nobody wanted to listen to what we were trying to say
00:29:24.360
because the islamists aided and abetted by the liberal jewish community in the united states which
00:29:31.420
is 80 percent liberal are the ones who worked with the islamic community which i call they were the
00:29:37.620
useful idiots who worked with the islamic community in standing up against islamophobia their heart was in
00:29:43.860
the right place but they were so misguided and so ill-informed and that's how we end up with the
00:29:49.700
situation that we are in today yeah well in speaking about some of those liberal lobotomized progressive
00:29:56.500
jews i tell a story in the parasitic mind in this in this book in the yellow one where a jewish woman a
00:30:03.780
friend from montreal had approached me this is probably 2010 maybe and she said oh i have a friend of mine
00:30:11.980
who's doing her phd in islamic studies and she insists that you know islam is the religion of
00:30:17.400
peace and all this stuff so can you god you you know your stuff about islam you come from that world
00:30:21.820
can you tell me what what is what is the real position do the does islam love the jews or not and so
00:30:28.040
on so i sent her brigitte a montage you may have seen it it's a it's about a 20 minute montage
00:30:33.720
of imams kids teachers in the islamic world saying some of the most diabolical things about the jews like
00:30:44.200
it makes the nazis seem as though they are warm and fuzzy at the end of which when i send her that clip
00:30:52.140
her response is you're no different in your extremism than them so let's let's break it down
00:30:59.240
so her asking me what's and she's jewish by the way and her grandparents went through the holocaust
00:31:04.580
so it her asking me tell me about the position of islam on jews and i share with her veridical
00:31:13.240
accurate information her conclusion is i am the extremist for spreading that stuff about two months
00:31:21.140
ago she sends me an email we hadn't spoken for many years because as you might imagine i was not
00:31:27.100
pleased with her reaction we hadn't spoken for over a decade she sends me an email and she basically
00:31:32.760
says oops i should have listened to you all those years ago so you're exactly right that again many of
00:31:39.740
the ostriches who bury their head in the sand are the ones who should be awakened they're called jews
00:31:45.860
but they too are lobotomized and so that's why sometimes i feel as though it's a it's a lost cause i want
00:31:51.600
to be optimistic i get up every morning wanting to fight but the imbecility is unbelievable brigitte
00:31:57.040
uh it is unbelievable but we have to continue fighting in my case i created an organization
00:32:03.280
called act for america because i wanted to make sure i not only educate education is important but i
00:32:09.560
learned very early on we can educate until the cows come home nothing is going to change education is
00:32:15.660
important but education by itself is insufficient education must be coupled with action so i started
00:32:23.160
act for america to mobilize and organize people in their own community to start working on issues
00:32:28.080
that will impact policy and i'm proud to tell you that act for america today is 2.8 million members
00:32:34.320
we have helped pass 240 bills on the federal level and the state level to protect america right now we
00:32:41.320
are working on many bills in congress to basically uh expel any foreign student on a student visa in the
00:32:48.300
united states who have been caught participating in these rallies kick their behind out of the united
00:32:53.200
states they have no business being here we are working on uh for example putting a cap on funding
00:32:59.020
for any university that's accepting funds from overseas in any arabic countries limit the number of foreign
00:33:05.220
students that are allowed to be accepted into our major universities we are working on so many bills in
00:33:10.820
congress and this is what i started doing so i encourage people if you are listening to us right now
00:33:15.580
from anywhere in the country or the world go to act for america.org a-c-t-f-o-r america.org right now
00:33:25.020
sign up to get our emails and action alerts stand with us and support our work we need you engaged we
00:33:30.960
need you involved the only way we're going to be able to impact policy and change the world
00:33:35.440
not by just be sitting and being entertained getting educated by actually by being organized and
00:33:42.700
mobilized in a way that can uh impact policy to have a positive outcome for world peace and national
00:33:49.700
security well by the way the the organization that you started speaks to something that i often talk
00:33:55.820
about when i ask people to activate their inner honey badger where i'm saying there is you don't have to
00:34:01.760
already have a big platform when you started you weren't a famous politician or a fit you were just
00:34:07.820
someone who had the truth on your side you had the the personality and temperament to get engaged
00:34:13.960
and you went from having zero platform to 2.8 million that to me is a very empowering message
00:34:20.720
because i get tons of people who write to me and say yeah but i'm not some famous professor who's got
00:34:25.800
you know the ear of joe rogan or whatever how do you expect me to affect any change well my answer
00:34:32.320
should be go look at what bridgete gabriel has done right because you didn't start with anything
00:34:36.780
that's right exactly you know when i started after 9 11 here's how i started act for america
00:34:43.540
i told you when i was in lebanon and my house was bombed when i was wounded in the hospital i spent two
00:34:49.620
and a half months in the hospital going from one surgery to another hooked up to ivs and i and i would
00:34:56.500
ask my father why did they do this to us and my father would tell me they consider us infidels and
00:35:03.280
they want to kill us so i learned since i was a 10 year old little girl that i am wanted dead simply
00:35:08.880
because i was born into the christian faith and lived in a christian town on 9 11 2001 my two young
00:35:17.180
daughters came home from school and they didn't tell them at school what had happened so they came home
00:35:21.680
at a normal hour and you know 9 11 was a defining moment for the united states 9 11 changed the way
00:35:28.880
we live changed the way we bank changed the way we all bank anywhere in the world changed the way we
00:35:34.500
listen to the news on 9 11 2001 no matter where you were in the world if you were next to a television
00:35:41.440
uh tv set you were parked in front of that tv set we couldn't get enough news my two daughters came home
00:35:48.340
from school that day and my youngest daughter was watching television with me seeing the images of
00:35:53.120
the world right center come down again and again and again being replayed and she said to me she said
00:35:58.720
mommy why did they do this to us and i found myself god uh looking at my daughter's eyes and repeating
00:36:06.920
to her the exact same words my father said to me they hate us because they consider us infidels and they
00:36:14.000
want to kill us here we were two generations apart i was a young lebanese girl she's a young american
00:36:19.340
girl i spoke arabic she spoke english 8 000 miles apart two continents apart 30 years apart and i had
00:36:27.420
to repeat to my daughter the same words my father said to me that day i vowed that i will do everything
00:36:34.000
i can to make sure that my daughter will never ever look into her child's eyes and repeat to him or to her
00:36:41.960
what my daddy said to me and what i had to say to her that day i was reborn as an activist
00:36:48.580
9 11 happened on a tuesday morning i laid in my pajamas on the couch in my family room
00:36:54.500
from tuesday morning until sunday thinking what can i do to make a difference you see god i'm a firm
00:37:00.300
believer that every single one of us in life no matter what trials and tribulations we go through
00:37:05.720
no matter what challenges we go through everything in life happens for a reason all these challenges
00:37:12.620
there are nothing more but a sharpening tool to make us become who we are today to serve a purpose
00:37:19.260
to make the world a better place i believe every single one of us has a destiny and has a purpose
00:37:25.100
i am so grateful that i found my purpose at a young age on 9 11 and i realized i now understand
00:37:32.140
why i went through war why i became a news anchor how i can talk to the press in soundbites i'm fluent
00:37:40.320
in four languages i can make a difference i'm a middle eastern woman arabic is my mother tongue
00:37:45.800
i look middle eastern i can have an impact i want to make a difference for my country the united states
00:37:51.500
of america and i knew i didn't know anything about non-profits i didn't know anything about how to set up
00:37:57.060
a non-profit or how to get it going but i had determination so once i decided i'm gonna start
00:38:03.520
an organization that's gonna mobilize americans and educate americans about the threat of radical islam
00:38:08.900
to world peace and national security i remember uh turning my guest room into an office and i went to
00:38:18.400
office depot and i bought one of those cheap desks for 150 dollars that took three days to put together
00:38:24.860
it was so heavy carried it upstairs uh to my office to the guest room and i printed business
00:38:31.820
cards a thousand business cards for 10 bucks at office max and i remember the address was 2420
00:38:40.700
litchfield way suite 201 which meant you go upstairs first room on the right and that was my address
00:38:47.760
and those are the cards that i would hand out i had determination and that's why on my website
00:38:54.460
brigitte gabriel i say two percent of the passionate will always overrule the 98 percent indifferent it
00:39:02.980
doesn't take money to change the world it only takes a dedicated few and that's people like you
00:39:08.400
and me and our listeners whom i hope you are today listening to me because if you are right here
00:39:14.380
listening right now you are here for a reason you are here for a purpose this was be shared for the
00:39:20.920
jewish listeners and for the non-jewish listeners you are here for a reason every single one of us
00:39:27.980
can make a difference every single one of us today i reach 8 million people a day on my social media
00:39:34.920
platforms i have 2.8 million members i have half a million activists throughout the united states we have
00:39:42.480
activists my organization on the ground in 3,070 counties out of 3,143 counties nationwide in america
00:39:51.740
we cover 97 percent of u.s territories and we have passed 250 bills in congress as well as on the state
00:40:01.420
level to protect america to impact terrorism laws to stand with israel our ally to make sure america is
00:40:08.620
safe and secure if i can do it you can do it i'm getting tired just hearing about your energy my
00:40:16.580
goodness i need a nap uh thank you thank you well you know cooped up in a bomb shelter for 70 years
00:40:22.620
you know you had a lot of energy uh do you i mean do you have a strategy in terms of how to reach the
00:40:30.180
people so for example i earlier today i appeared on charlie kirk's show you you know who charlie kirk is
00:40:35.640
right yeah of course so his strategy is you know he decided that the university ecosystem is where
00:40:42.560
he needs to be because that's where to to the point of the parasitic mind my book all of these bad
00:40:48.700
ideas they're always spawned on university campuses and then they spread out to the rest of society
00:40:53.680
so do you have a sort of meta strategy of where you want to go or you'll go wherever there is minds
00:41:01.360
that need to be changed i started the organization in 2002 right after 9 11 and my goal was to mobilize
00:41:09.880
people and train them and their activism to have an impact on on our national policy to protect america
00:41:17.920
so what we went because not only we knew that the education is happening in the school system and not
00:41:24.080
just on college campuses but it started with sixth grade all the way up through college so we focused on
00:41:30.100
the education back at the elementary and middle school and high school because we knew that's
00:41:35.720
where the brainwashing is happening but at the same time we realized and when you have a sinking boat
00:41:41.760
yes you can patch immediately where the hole is but you have to have a long-term strategy and our
00:41:48.000
strategy was we cannot just depend on students to change the world a 21 year old kid is not interested
00:41:55.560
in running for school board school board is a nothing position it's a public service position
00:42:00.220
but it's not important we realize a 20 year old is not interested in running for city council city council
00:42:07.300
i mean what's a city council that's a nothing position and so but those are the position that make an impact
00:42:13.660
uh it's the local school board it's the local school board that decide what books your children
00:42:19.980
study at school it is the local city council that decides to defund the police it's the local mayor
00:42:28.540
that decides to tell the police to stand down it's the local state delegates that decide dominion voting
00:42:35.360
machines in your state so we went after those type of position to try to flip community on the political
00:42:43.460
level because we've got a nation to say yes we can wait for the students until they are married in their
00:42:49.180
30s and they have kids where they actually develop okay i need to serve my community uh uh but then we
00:42:55.780
went immediately after uh my work focused on the people who actually sit on that chamber members of
00:43:02.320
the chamber of commerce they sit on boards in their community whether it's a business board they own
00:43:07.380
their own businesses they have a vested interest either their business their life their families their job or
00:43:15.020
their children to protect the nation and that's how we were able to grow the way we grew uh you know they say
00:43:21.220
an overnight success takes 20 years you know people see you all of a sudden successful with a massive
00:43:27.340
operation with a massive national operation builds fast relationship with the white house and in congress and
00:43:33.520
they go oh she's so lucky you know it's amazing she's so successful they don't realize that i started in my
00:43:40.540
guest bedroom with 150 desk because at that time that's all i could afford because the economy
00:43:45.920
collapsed we lost our money but i had determination and it took me 22 years of of sleepless nights heart
00:43:54.480
sweat building the organization block by block and all of a sudden now people look around and say wow
00:44:00.320
how did you do that that's what it takes it's never too late to start but we've got to start somewhere
00:44:05.740
now i probably know the answer to what i'm about to ask but because you you already wield a lot of
00:44:12.500
influence through your grassroots activism but do you ever consider the possibility of you running for
00:44:20.240
political office because that might allow you to have a more you know a quicker turnaround and being able
00:44:26.360
to implement things or do you feel that the current situation is one that allows you to change a lot
00:44:33.480
more minds than you would otherwise within the confined ecosystem of politics
00:44:38.440
i will never run for a political office and here is why if i run for a political office and i get elected
00:44:45.620
i am only one vote right now i influence every single member of congress uh that's how we are able
00:44:52.320
to pass these bills we created a tool called act now campaign we monitor all bills coming down for a vote on
00:44:58.400
the federal level in congress as well as on the state level i have a team that goes through these
00:45:03.440
bills we identify the bill if you want to get behind then we send an act now campaign an email to our
00:45:09.340
members and we say this bill number hr 750 coming down for a vote just got introduced in congress you
00:45:16.740
call your elected officials and we send this email nationwide so we get people from every single state in the union
00:45:24.300
to put pressure on their elected official to either co-sponsor or vote yes on that bill
00:45:29.760
so my activism can influence 200 members of congress and their votes instead of me being one vote
00:45:36.800
we influence presidential elections we influence local elections and look i started my organization
00:45:43.900
george bush was in office george bush came and left obama became president obama came and left
00:45:51.080
uh uh trump became president trump came and left biden is president biden is gonna leave i'm still here
00:45:58.160
i am already i had 250 bills and no matter who's gonna come who's gonna go we are here and we are
00:46:04.760
growing and we are impacting policy is is biden leaving now or are we going to have to suffer another
00:46:11.460
four years please brigitte give us the good news we are trying our darndest to make sure that the
00:46:20.360
senile president of the united states who has no idea what's happening in the country because he is
00:46:26.480
not running the country but the deep state and the members who are pulling him on a string are running
00:46:31.220
the country we are trying to do everything we can in our power to make sure we fix our broken election
00:46:38.340
process to ensure that the rightful successful candidate who actually wins the election will sit at the
00:46:47.540
white house for the next five years instead of somebody who may cheat in order to sit at the
00:46:53.480
white house for the next five years or four years four years inshallah all right is that can you give
00:46:58.720
us a list other than of course signing up for your important newsletters and so on you know here is a
00:47:05.240
recipe of four things that the average person listening to this conversation could go out and do in the
00:47:11.800
next few days so that they at least can feel that they've contributed can you give us a bit of a plan
00:47:16.220
of what everybody can do what the first thing that everybody can do is become engaged in a local
00:47:23.260
political grassroots organization because i know we have a lot of people listening to us in canada right
00:47:27.680
now and and and different parts of the world i'm not just talking to a u.s audience no matter what
00:47:34.200
country you are in immediately you need to be plugged in with passionate people who are working to impact
00:47:39.220
policy in your community whatever group it is second you need to be engaged in the political process and
00:47:47.000
that is by volunteering with a political organization that that bodifies the views that you agree with
00:47:54.560
your views your values uh your free speech you're wanting to preserve western nations you wanted to
00:48:01.740
preserve our freedom what made western civilization great um the freedoms that we have you need to
00:48:07.760
immediately be plugged into these types of people support and show up and volunteer to those
00:48:12.860
organizations they need volunteers like you and they need supporters like you financial supporters if
00:48:18.380
you are busy and you are unable to give up your time do not underestimate the power of your donation
00:48:24.020
whether it's five dollars whether it's ten dollars whether it's one hundred thousand dollars
00:48:29.540
because people who are leading grassroots organizations in your nation in your community cannot operate
00:48:36.660
without funding from the grassroots for example we don't receive any governmental funding we do not
00:48:42.960
receive any government grants because we do not want to be muzzled we rely on the donations of great
00:48:49.300
people like you right now watching us in order to operate and we grow and because i'm speaking to an
00:48:54.880
international audience whatever country you are from right now whatever organization you decide to be
00:49:00.340
involved with in your own community if you are unable to give up your time make sure you support them
00:49:06.460
financially they need you in our case we are a non-profit organization of 501c3 so your donation is tax
00:49:13.500
deductible um i know there's a lot of people listening who go between america and canada if you are any
00:49:19.860
position to support our work i would be so grateful but we are fighting to preserve our values and you know if you
00:49:27.400
are interested in starting a sister organization any like us anywhere in the world start one uh you
00:49:34.160
know we used to have act for canada i think our chapter leader is retiring so maybe you should start
00:49:39.460
an act for canada i know there is action for canada uh you can join as well there are many ways for
00:49:44.580
people to support and contribute wonderful are there any projects that you're currently working on that
00:49:51.380
you might want to use this platform to promote it could be a next book you're working on
00:49:56.080
a new endeavor tell us what's going to be keeping brigitte busy for the next year or two
00:50:02.300
uh what's keeping brigitte busy is the united states election uh this year uh wanting to make sure that
00:50:09.180
we have the right people in office and also making sure we are safe and secure right now we have many
00:50:14.120
bills in congress that supports law enforcement and gives the power to law enforcement this is why we
00:50:19.680
are working so hard on on the mayoral races on the on the local races but also on bills in congress that will
00:50:27.620
make sure we'll penalize students who are using the the the democracy the open-mindedness of the west to
00:50:35.400
basically create a third world country structure like the countries they left and they came here look they are
00:50:42.420
in america or in canada because they cannot do in saudi arabia what they are doing in america and in canada they
00:50:48.060
cannot do in jordan what they are doing in america and in canada you know in jordan the king's step
00:50:53.900
brother is in jail because the king threw his step brother in jail because his step brother was arguing
00:50:59.500
with him about power there was a power struggle we are a nation where all people from the middle east
00:51:05.640
from these third world countries come to because they love our freedom and we need to stand up and
00:51:10.860
protect our freedom welcoming them into our country does not give them the right to destroy our country to
00:51:17.080
destroy our national monuments to destroy our universities to destroy the peace in our country
00:51:22.420
we have a right to live in peace and security in our own nations and any guest who comes to our
00:51:29.420
nation they need to abide by our laws so our number one thing right now is we are working with
00:51:34.740
on many bills with congress so i encourage you to sign up to get our emails and action alerts they're free
00:51:41.020
they don't cost you anything go to act for america.org right now sign up to receive our emails and action
00:51:48.200
alert and if you have a dual citizenship and american canadian citizenship you can take action
00:51:53.660
about the bills being introduced in congress so we want to empower you we want your voice heard so
00:51:59.280
please stand with us go to act for america.org right now i'm going to say something in arabic then i'll
00:52:05.420
try to translate it as we close out this uh conversation
00:52:08.520
i said to brigitte one of the you know arabic is is a very beautiful language that has very sort of
00:52:25.600
flowery intonation to it so one of the things that you tell someone when you're saying goodbye
00:52:30.820
it's it is impossible to be satiated of you that means that just like when you eat imagine you can
00:52:38.940
eat and you could never get full this is how you tell someone when you are enjoying so much the
00:52:44.220
conversation brigitte thank you so much for coming i hope this will be the first of many future
00:52:48.540
conversations i look forward to seeing you in person you are a hero keep fighting stay on the line
00:52:54.300
so we could say goodbye offline thank you so much for coming it was fantastic thank you for having me with