The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - My Chat with Charlie Kirk, Author of Right Wing Revolution (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad

00:00:00.000 hey guys the gentleman i have with me today is the epitome of what is a honey badger he'll tell

00:00:06.780 you all about in a second he's invited me on his show several times so it was only right

00:00:11.380 that i finally reciprocate mr charlie kirk how you doing sir dr sad uh you're great i was going

00:00:18.420 to call you great american but a great westerner and uh fellow fighter for all that is reasonable

00:00:23.620 and good and true and beautiful so thank you my friend great to be back you're too you're too kind

00:00:28.360 so to uh last week your book let me just i'm getting old so i have to put my glasses your

00:00:33.840 latest book with a new publisher i think winning team publishing one of the co-founders is donald

00:00:40.760 trump jr you have a new book out right wing revolution how to beat beat the woke and save

00:00:47.640 the west boy is this within my wheelhouse if you'd like we can either start with the book or maybe

00:00:53.640 first trace for us how as a 19 year old you decided i'm not going to be parasitized by

00:00:59.580 universities i'm going to trace my own path forward we could start there and then finish off with the

00:01:05.380 book take it away sir absolutely i just want to say your work is amazing and i'm really enjoying

00:01:10.560 your happiness book it is terrific um and so uh we we have to have you back on the show to talk about

00:01:16.100 that look uh when i was uh my whole life i wanted to go to west point i grew up in the suburbs of

00:01:20.700 chicago i didn't get into west point and i was left with a couple options like i could went to

00:01:26.080 baylor a couple other schools and i wasn't that passionate about it i've always had an

00:01:30.240 entrepreneurial impulse you could say and i told my parents hey i'm going to take a gap year to try

00:01:34.460 and save the civilization and they said okay sure um but they were supportive in the sense where they

00:01:39.200 said i couldn't do it and uh it's been 12 gap years um since i took um that that little hiatus and

00:01:47.000 it's just been this amazing journey um we like to say it's an only in america story and i think

00:01:51.500 there is a lot of truth to that we're only in america could a kid who didn't go to college

00:01:55.380 travel the country convince people to give them some financing put together an organization and

00:02:00.660 really help launch a movement um that has really captured the country and is making a positive impact

00:02:06.080 against a lot of these things but also for the ideas of liberty freedom self-governance separation of

00:02:11.520 powers and uh yeah from the very beginning i saw a problem and i wanted to fix it i was very

00:02:16.700 underwhelmed by what we would call the conservative infrastructure here in the states and i felt that

00:02:22.920 it could be a lot more aggressive that it could be more creative and also better reaching of young

00:02:28.400 people and it's just been this remarkable journey uh praise god for the last 12 years as we have seen

00:02:34.240 this go to high school campuses college campuses and now we have a whole political arm and it just

00:02:38.840 started with and i talk about this in the book which was a nice segue is that everybody can look

00:02:43.400 at a problem and complain about it but few people can then go about actually solving it and i'm not

00:02:48.580 necessarily saying we've solved the problem yet but take using your agency using your action using your

00:02:55.340 ability to make choices uh is something that i believe is what is beautiful about being human

00:03:01.140 and uh far too often we allow the status quo to govern our reality when we should ask the question

00:03:08.260 why do we have to live like this and the answer is we don't and so uh turning point usa is now a

00:03:12.500 behemoth and we're super thankful it's been a great journey what do you think it was i mean i'm in a

00:03:17.800 sense i'm forgive me i'm asking you to speak about yourself and i know you're a modest guy but

00:03:21.380 what is the unique constellation of genes that constitutes your personhood that allows you at 19 year

00:03:28.460 old as a 19 year old to to have there's a jewish word i don't know if you know the chutzpah the

00:03:34.100 hubris oh yeah right yes that's right right i mean i'm a 19 year old most 19 year olds can't find

00:03:40.620 their way to the bus stop but somehow you decide you know what i think i've got the constellation

00:03:46.140 of traits that would allow me i mean of course you could have never predicted that 12 years later you'd

00:03:50.600 be where you are but yet you still had the the self-confidence is this something that we can bottle

00:03:56.980 and sell or everyone has to work within their own limited abilities so uh it's it's a it's a great

00:04:05.780 question i don't like talking about myself you are right uh you've diagnosed me correctly but i'll do

00:04:09.460 my best a couple things so when i first started turning point i was about a year into it and i

00:04:15.140 remember i had this eureka moment and i said oh my goodness people don't work as hard as i do you see

00:04:21.680 when you're in high school and you're a high performer you see a lot of people that work very hard

00:04:25.880 for good grades and that you think that is how the rest of the world works that high performers

00:04:29.820 they'll stay up late they'll do their homework but when it comes into into the professional life

00:04:34.040 or career all of a sudden you realize that at the top of the success curve there are very few people

00:04:39.600 like i was willing to travel 330 days a year for 10 years straight and so i traveled 3 000 days for a

00:04:46.280 decade 3 300 days for a decade and it's just how i'm wired i'm relentless i always made a promise that

00:04:52.320 i will not have the most credentials but i will outwork you and i've made good on that promise

00:04:57.180 and i have a tough time sitting still i also heard thomas massey say this recently who i just love

00:05:03.060 and i think i share this a genetic deformity with him uh i have a genetic deformity where i really don't

00:05:09.860 care what people say about me i don't know where it comes from i don't know how to track it uh maybe

00:05:15.000 there's a blood work that could be done uh but when people criticize me or call i just it doesn't

00:05:20.860 really bother me and so when people said oh you're not you're not going to college you're going

00:05:23.920 to be a failure it just never fazed me i will say my parents were always very supportive in the sense

00:05:29.180 where they they they said if this is what you believe in then do it you know we'll give you

00:05:33.960 the ability and freedom to do that uh but also to be honest doctor said the fact that i was on my own

00:05:40.120 to pay for college was one of the most liberating things uh because of the 2008 financial crisis my

00:05:45.560 parents were not in a financial place to underwrite college for me and so i would have had to go

00:05:50.000 into debt and i was basically on the hook if you will to pay for college it kind of gave me a great

00:05:54.740 bargain give me leverage if you take up a loan you actually think that you're the one who's supposed

00:06:01.940 to pay it and not the welder and farmer that's some dangerous that's right talk they're doing there

00:06:07.600 it it is um it is very in fact it's an it's an old idea and it no longer exists and so when i in 2012

00:06:15.320 i had this idea that if i'm going to borrow a hundred thousand dollars to go you know study

00:06:19.260 something i'm not that passionate about i'm going to be on the hook for that little did i know that

00:06:22.420 the whole idea of the scam is to try to run up the student loan debt as high as possible and fill

00:06:26.620 them with you would say parasitic ideas and then have them be uh government dependent or at least

00:06:31.780 um sympathetic towards government policies and forgiveness programs for the rest of their life

00:06:36.060 so yeah and also i guess in my i'm at i'm trying to psychoanalyze myself um is that i i always wanted

00:06:44.640 to be the best at whatever i was doing and it was a relentless pursuit of being excellent and not

00:06:50.300 everyone has that and so it was always surrounding myself with the best people trying to find high

00:06:55.080 performers and again when you work really really hard at something and you find daily disciplines

00:07:00.160 and you stay away from a lot of the riffraff or a lot of what would be the distractions of the of life

00:07:06.960 and you really really emphasize and focus on it you know there's there's a series of studies as you

00:07:12.320 well know this doctor said that intelligence plus self-control they say those are the top two predictors

00:07:17.540 of quote-unquote success uh and i think and there's a great book called willpower that proves this and

00:07:22.720 it's a terrific book and from a young age i would always i would always pride myself on self-control i was

00:07:28.800 always that weird kid in high school that you know didn't do drugs or wouldn't drink and always

00:07:32.360 kind of follow a regimented very rule-based um uh trajectory which was hilarious when i didn't go to

00:07:38.740 college because it would be seen the opposite but i think that one of my superpowers is my self-control

00:07:43.420 and uh my ability to uh be able to go long periods of time while doing things that otherwise might seem

00:07:51.380 unenjoyable but then might uh end up with some fruit or result on the back end if i can add i mean i i love

00:07:57.580 your your analysis with intelligence and self-control one thing that correlates with self-control

00:08:02.280 is uh the the trait of immediate versus delayed gratification right so in your case you decided

00:08:10.780 to take one pathway which was away from education but yet as you said you're still working harder than

00:08:16.840 everyone else you're not going partying because you're traveling 330 days a year and therefore you're

00:08:22.560 delaying this immediate gratification hey i'm a kid let me have fun let me buy the camaro or whatever

00:08:27.840 the cool car is today the mustang and because i have to work now in my case i stayed in university

00:08:34.140 till i was 29 before i finished my phd so i am delaying gratification at any moment i could have said

00:08:40.880 well hey i just finished an mba i could now go out and make 150 000 no let me delay let me delay so i think

00:08:47.380 i would add to intelligence self-control a correlate which would be delayed gratification and that by the

00:08:53.940 way has huge impact for example on your savings pattern right so people who score higher on delayed

00:08:59.620 gratification are more likely to save for a rainy day rather than i get the paycheck i spend it on

00:09:05.960 thursday the day that i receive it so right up your alley yeah no i completely agree and i would say

00:09:13.320 i'm high in the traits of delayed gratification because a lot of what we work towards at turning

00:09:18.280 point is we are trying to build towards something that is years or decades down the horizon right and

00:09:24.360 and and so again that is not i would say in the west we have become very immediate gratification focus

00:09:31.380 and not delayed gratification focus it's a huge regression over the last couple of years and decades and i

00:09:36.840 think it's also uh one of our problems with our economic condition in the west right now is that we are

00:09:41.840 afraid of any sort of recession or any sort of hiccup economically that we must turn the money printer

00:09:46.200 on immediately and flood the zone with cheap money but anyway it's been an it's been a remarkable

00:09:50.660 learning experience and journey at turning point usa and turning point action then we have the podcast

00:09:54.760 and the radio program i'm an entrepreneur we have 600 people on staff we have wow great impact um every

00:10:01.280 single day and so it's and then we we write books in the in the nights and weekends i want to talk i want to

00:10:06.480 do a deep dive into the book in a second but i just want to say as a shout out to turning point usa

00:10:13.360 i was fortunate enough to be invited by you to the one that was held in december i mean my goodness that

00:10:20.700 was a rock star operation i remember i mean i've spoken in front of a lot a lot of large crowds but

00:10:25.840 i've never spoken in front of like a a maniacal fervor stadium of i don't know 12 000 15 000 enthusiastic

00:10:34.320 people i mean really it's just it's remarkable for for for 15 or 20 minutes or however long that

00:10:40.460 that uh talk was i felt i was the rolling stones i mean it was unbelievable you were mick jagger

00:10:47.120 i was mick jagger except i don't get as many girls as him but yes

00:10:50.400 that's right no and that's a that's a great example of where we brought a disruptive and i can't stand that

00:10:57.880 word because it sounds so silicon valley but it is the correct term disruptive where the previous

00:11:03.380 conservative events were boring and they'd be in like old hilton's and av wasn't spectacular and i

00:11:10.520 said okay for those of us and again the word conservative is the filler term for not woke and

00:11:15.120 decent americans so i i would always say to our team if we believe our value system is better than

00:11:22.340 the bad guys why are our aesthetics so bad our aesthetics must also be beautiful and must also be

00:11:29.040 excellent because we have five senses and it's not just that we're trying to win the argument

00:11:33.540 we're trying to show a whole of being approach that can have excitement depth that can move you

00:11:41.500 on a spiritual level and we do that at our events and they're the envy of the entire movement people

00:11:47.180 are wondering how we do it and i'll tell you it didn't start that way the first event we did was 80

00:11:53.080 kids and a holiday inn express in west palm beach and i barely was able to pay for it and we had a

00:11:59.060 slideshow and like two speakers and it was awesome and i remember i said just wait you know 10 years

00:12:06.660 from now let's see how those events are and now uh they are the biggest boldest and most impactful in

00:12:10.940 the country unbelievable okay let's talk give us a synopsis because today we have unfortunately you have

00:12:16.220 a very busy schedule so we only have about 30 40 minutes so i really want to be able to cover some of

00:12:20.780 the key points in your book right-wing revolution how did you decide to write it how is it different

00:12:25.940 from other anti-woke books and so on so forth take it away yeah so uh the first we don't spend a lot

00:12:33.440 of time on diagnosing the problem you've done incredible scholarship on this and i couldn't

00:12:37.440 compete we we basically about 10 of the book is saying what is the woke mind virus you know where does

00:12:43.180 it come from nihilism post-modernism post-structuralism deconstructionism kind of a blend of all that

00:12:48.100 i i will say that the woke is a group of people that complain until they control it's largely a

00:12:53.120 means of control of destabilization and trying to um use complaining as a means to an end however

00:12:59.520 that that's not my lane that's not my expertise i'm not a phd i'm not a scholar i know it

00:13:03.200 well enough to be able to converse on it but it's not not my expertise i am however an entrepreneur

00:13:09.840 and an activist and that's where 90 of the book is emphasized of what can actually be done

00:13:15.140 be done on the micro level be done on the macro level from building new institutions from improving

00:13:20.940 your own self um from getting off of social media to this is the honey badger element in the book

00:13:26.580 which is caring less about what they call you that there's a whole chapter on this and also we talk

00:13:32.620 about how we as non-woke individuals we actually have a lot more power than we realize more political

00:13:39.860 power we have more economic power we have more power to be able to counter their um their advances

00:13:46.520 in society and the reason we do not do it is not because of our numbers but it's because we lack

00:13:52.780 the will and that is where i spend a lot of time examining why we have allowed these parasitic ideas

00:14:00.020 this virus that's this civilizational bacterial rot to continue and i i really believe that it's

00:14:08.180 because we westerners have prioritized comfort and the ease of the modern life over the necessity of

00:14:16.400 conserving what is good true and beautiful and then a lot of the book is about my own personal story of

00:14:21.880 what i have personally done and challenging the audience asking them to get off the couch stop

00:14:27.380 complaining and to go do something actively in this culture war and that's the number one question i

00:14:33.900 receive from people and that's why we wrote i wrote the book one thing else is that people are

00:14:38.120 struggling well what do i do what do i do i totally agree i know that the woke are bad but what do i

00:14:44.060 actually do and so there's a call to action of we need to go found a hundred new colleges in the next

00:14:49.780 five years in america we have to figure it out and they have to be like in the university of austin

00:14:54.460 hillsdale model we have to defund these major institutions from a taxpayer level and we go about

00:14:59.940 the actual lawmakers that are resisting it the places in the states for example oklahoma missouri kansas

00:15:05.120 we have a whole battle plan in the book of how that can happen legislatively so i'm just touching

00:15:09.660 the surface on this dr sad but i felt my service to the anti-woke um resistance if you will was much

00:15:17.420 more in the activism and in the entrepreneurial space than just criticizing where do these ideas

00:15:23.600 come from because i believe that scholarship has been done thoroughly obviously you played a big role in

00:15:27.740 that the action is where we've really been lacking oh that's fantastic because i by the way i also receive

00:15:32.800 oftentimes this kind of helpless sense i agree with you 100 but i'm just a little guy i just do i'm a

00:15:41.640 bus driver i'm a this i'm a that so there's always some uh sense of helplessness as to how given the

00:15:48.380 fact that i'm a small guy i don't have joe rogan's platform i'm not an entrepreneur like charlie kirk i'm

00:15:54.340 not some fancy professor what can i do and so it's i think you're really filling a really important

00:16:00.100 niche by giving people a set of recipes prescriptions of to empower them so that's fantastic if we can

00:16:06.880 anything else you want to add about the book or can we move to a few no no i i it's great let's let's

00:16:12.820 move on to other stuff that's fine it's great okay but please folks right wing revolution get it it's a

00:16:17.820 good one i haven't read it yet i just read uh first couple of pages it's gripping you really want to get

00:16:22.660 it okay uh tonight we've got a little uh boxing match going on between an avocado brain and a rather

00:16:32.200 energetic guy uh one is called biden the other is called trump here to give us any of your uh

00:16:40.080 astute predictions mr kirk well and everyone knows uh my biases i'm very close to president trump and he's

00:16:47.340 a friend and he's been very good to me throughout the years he's been a big part of my success

00:16:51.200 um predictions boy that's difficult to say i think that joe biden will surprise some people

00:16:55.960 he's had 10 days to rest and i will say this doctor said that if he gets through all 90 minutes

00:17:01.200 of this debate it'll be one of the greatest accomplishments in american chemistry in the

00:17:04.780 modern era i i i i want to know the recipe i want to meet the man and he deserves a prize

00:17:11.180 oh man implying that women are not smart enough to be in science i'm gonna tape that and run it

00:17:18.780 throughout all my social media racist sexist you should and i i will retweet it and i will say

00:17:24.660 that is correct uh so uh so it's it's it's it's the uh the man or a woman doctor said or wait hold

00:17:33.240 there's more than that exact thank you right right okay we must we must police our own speech

00:17:39.600 that puts that that chemical cocktail together i do find it fascinating and i want to make sure

00:17:44.920 we emphasize the framework uh in america having a debate this early is unheard of uh usually debates

00:17:51.500 are in the fall to have a summer debate is is really unprecedented has not happened to the modern

00:17:56.100 era donald trump did what donald trump does he put out on social media i will debate joe biden anytime

00:18:01.580 anyplace not thinking joe biden would actually call the bluff joe biden has seen some very negative

00:18:06.840 poll numbers in the last couple of months the conviction of donald trump which is ridiculous and

00:18:11.940 it is sinister and it is unprecedented and it is evil we should not be locking up uh former opposite

00:18:17.280 of former presidents let alone opposition political leaders on made-up crimes right before an election

00:18:21.260 it is direct election interference his poll numbers went up after that believe it or not in certain

00:18:26.760 states so therefore joe biden added an act of desperation he is looking at tonight as a way to try

00:18:32.280 and tighten the race and get it within the margin of error um my advice to president trump both publicly and

00:18:38.040 privately is a tie is a win here you're already doing very very well in the polls they're going to

00:18:44.180 try to create you into a caricature that uh is not who's not who you really are which is that you're

00:18:50.320 going to be interrupting or that you won't be stable or balanced uh and i think joe biden has a lot

00:18:55.220 more to lose than donald trump uh donald trump i think will surprise a lot of people in his ability

00:19:00.120 to navigate both the adversarial monitor moderators and also some of the the back and forth the joe biden but

00:19:06.240 i i anticipate joe biden to be able to get through the debate i anticipate him to be able to you know

00:19:11.140 somewhat answer questions he has uh decayed greatly in recent years president trump will be at his best

00:19:17.880 if he is able to emphasize the obvious that the first time since 1892 we have two independent

00:19:23.620 presidential terms back to pack that we are able to judge in the 1892 presidential election it was

00:19:28.960 benjamin harrison v grover cleveland grover cleveland won the 1884 presidential election uh he was displaced

00:19:34.740 from power in 1888 when grover when benjamin harrison won he ran for president again and ended

00:19:39.420 up winning the only president to serve non-consecutive terms here in the states i believe president trump

00:19:44.500 will be uh will do the same uh in the sense well hopefully he'll win i'm not guaranteeing anything

00:19:49.040 but that is the sort of message saying hey look how good things were look how bad they've become

00:19:53.660 and now uh look at the path forward and finally um i believe that if president trump my advice to him

00:19:59.280 is reminding swing voters independent voters how joe biden has embraced the worst elements of what

00:20:04.960 you and i would call the woke dr sad but this radical anti-reality anti-truth agenda that is now

00:20:11.220 running the federal government i think it is very persuasive for people in the middle wow uh sticking on

00:20:17.040 the issue of trump versus biden i opened up a recent talk that i delivered uh in toronto with the

00:20:25.380 following uh stats uh 2020 uh among the american jewish vote it was 68 to 30 for biden so it was

00:20:38.060 a 38 point differential among american jews for uh biden poll that just came out of you know a couple of

00:20:48.700 weeks ago showed it 61 to 23 for biden so the exact same 38 point difference the numbers have changed

00:20:58.340 but the the difference is the exact same now the reason why i'm saying the delta the delta the reason

00:21:04.720 i'm saying this is because someone recently asked me on their show in my 30 plus year career as a

00:21:12.020 professor and a behavioral scientist what is the singular human phenomena that has most surprised me

00:21:18.600 and my answer was the inability of people to change their minds in light of incoming evidence that

00:21:26.980 suggests that they should perhaps change their minds and here you've got 68 30 then four years

00:21:33.060 happened this thing called october 7th happened this thing of orgiastic jew hatred happens which he's

00:21:39.440 certainly facilitating he meaning biden and yet it didn't move the needle by one percent amongst american

00:21:47.240 jews now the good news is that the latino vote has moved the the black vote has moved but do you have

00:21:53.280 any insight as to why it's and i say this as a jewish person why it is that somehow the american jews

00:22:01.220 are impervious of any incoming information yes and i say this and i get i want to be very clear

00:22:08.860 i'm very pro-zero and very pro-jewish so when i say this is not a criticism but most american jews

00:22:14.880 take social justice more seriously than their religion and their their religion has become

00:22:21.220 social justice and you that is a fact so the more liberal you are in your judaism or the less

00:22:28.160 seriously you take your judaism the far more likely you are to be attached to the democrat party

00:22:33.040 no matter what and then the more seriously you take your judaism orthodox judaism for example

00:22:37.880 the more likely you are to support donald trump it is remarkable how ingrained this is and this is one

00:22:43.600 of the reasons why you see the re the recurring donald trump is a fascist the right wing is a full

00:22:49.540 of fascists is that many jewish americans they want nothing to do with the quote-unquote fascist

00:22:55.560 party or anything close to that there is this serious problem though that uh that must be dealt

00:23:01.340 with that some of the most destructive worldviews this is dennis prager who said this by the way who's

00:23:07.180 a committed jew and a great man he said some of the most destructive worldviews that have been

00:23:12.620 introduced in the west from marxism to parts of nihilism deconstruction were almost always

00:23:18.520 from jewish intellectuals or jewish philosophers um because there has been this yearning in uh jewish

00:23:26.800 circles to try and improve the world by all means necessary and that means through the state and so it is

00:23:34.060 it is really remarkable to see though after the slaughter of 1000 plus israelis to see the campus

00:23:42.000 protests to see how it's open hunting season against american jews how so many liberal jews still will say

00:23:49.800 i am more serious about my liberalism than my judaism that's the best explanation i can give

00:23:55.580 no that's that's very good and by the way there is nothing wrong in you saying that certainly some

00:24:01.380 of the i mean i'm the first to say it that of course all the parasitic ideas coming from university

00:24:06.160 campuses and uh certainly jews have been uh quite dominant within academia so the fact that many of

00:24:13.540 these idiotic ideas come from jewish individuals is incontestable here's where the problem comes in and i i i i i i

00:24:21.300 i would so want to know from you because i think you're in touch with some of these folks how we

00:24:27.120 can get them to change their opinions so i will post something that for example demonstrates that when it

00:24:33.580 comes to the persecution of christians is overwhelmingly the greater the greatest danger to christian life

00:24:43.460 throughout the world let alone in the middle east and so on and then i'll always get some christian

00:24:51.300 i don't know how right-wing they are but they seem quite sort of the jews won't replace us

00:24:56.020 that will always shift the blame away from the guy who's coming to behead you and ultimately blame it

00:25:03.520 on the jews so for example if i show that the grooming gangs in britain here is here here's the name of the

00:25:10.860 guys that were just caught in some town and every single one of them has the name muhammad then someone

00:25:15.720 not someone a thousand people will descend on my social media and say well that that's not

00:25:21.120 because of islam it's because it's the jews who were uh promulgating the idea of open door policies

00:25:28.200 so when three muhammad's gang raped your daughter it's really moshe that's to blame now that's not

00:25:34.660 coming from islamic guys that's coming from no you know from from right-wing christian guys so then

00:25:42.220 you almost feel helpless because rather than that guy saying hey let's band together and fight a common

00:25:49.320 enemy they turn to me and say but you're the problem you're the jew it's all because of you

00:25:54.320 is there any way to reach those guys or do we just assume that they are irretrievable

00:25:59.560 i i think there is a way to reach them and i don't think they're a majority of the western

00:26:05.520 conservative movement by any means most conservatives are very pro-israel and are very pro uh pro-jewish

00:26:12.280 life and so but i think where they come from is they will they believe and they conflate liberalism

00:26:19.040 with judaism which is not the same thing and just kind of going back a previous answer that there are

00:26:25.500 a lot of liberal jews but judaism itself is not necessarily liberal and so they'll say all these

00:26:31.800 problems are the jews fault i'll be honest that is incredibly sloppy intellectual thinking if you are

00:26:37.000 just going to blame a group of people that are not necessarily always involved at all in this

00:26:44.000 situation then how does that exactly work and then by the way help me understand in the united kingdom

00:26:49.280 who exactly was the one doing the open door policy i mean i i think that it was actually mostly

00:26:54.720 like secular former episcopalians that were doing the open door policy not not quote unquote jews so it

00:27:02.480 is tempting but evil to blame a small group for the suffering of society and it is a cop-out just

00:27:10.220 to say quote unquote it's the jews fault right now i hear you but and by the way let's take for example

00:27:15.280 immigration well stephen miller in the united states is arguably the biggest yes he's jewish god sad

00:27:22.420 canadian jew uh is not for for uh open door policy and open immigration policy but what they'll say is

00:27:29.740 oh but george soros is the acolyte of carl popper who started the movement of the open society

00:27:37.920 they're both jewish and therefore so they look for the jew who supports the ideology but never look at

00:27:45.860 the jew who fights against the ideology so it's a perfect manifestation of selective processing to

00:27:51.460 support my innate bigotry yeah so instead of focusing on what tribe or ethnic group let's focus on

00:27:59.720 values and publicly stated beliefs so that's why the islamic example is actually good because there

00:28:06.540 are publicly stated beliefs and actions that are an existential threat to the west right and that is

00:28:11.740 a hundred percent a problem and then the same with the woke and so look i think that's actually one of

00:28:16.080 the criticisms we give of the woke isn't it that they just want to view the world through a tribal

00:28:20.040 group lens and so we on our side team reality need to resist that same temptation on our side well

00:28:26.420 listen i probably have more shared values with you than i may have with an oberlin ultra progressive jew i

00:28:37.140 may have more in common with imam tauhidi who's a good friend of mine who's a islamic imam than i may

00:28:45.300 have with an orthodox jew i judge people as you said by the constellation of their character their values and so

00:28:51.560 on so so right on okay we have only a couple of minutes left and then i regrettably have to let

00:28:57.560 you go to honor your schedule what are some projects right now we're we're we're promoting i get it right

00:29:04.680 right wing revolution are there some other big projects that you want to take this opportunity to

00:29:09.700 tell our audience about take it away yeah here in the states uh we're working on what's called a ballot

00:29:15.740 chasing operation uh we believe that the american democrat party they have invested more money time and

00:29:21.380 focus on the process of elections than just on who wins the policy debate so our project which is a

00:29:28.080 serious project tens of millions of dollars uh is about hiring hundreds of full-time people to engage

00:29:33.280 in that process of uh ballot chasing ballot harvesting were legal and registering voters in the united

00:29:39.720 states it is a totally disorganized mess of how we do our elections it varies state by state and county

00:29:44.920 by county uh and the democrats have a a leviathan of a multi-billion dollar infrastructure so we're working

00:29:51.400 on that it's tpaction.com i'll be doing my most ambitious campus tour ever this fall um i'll be going to

00:29:59.400 nearly 20 campuses across the country in like 30 days um so uh it's all across the country people can see the

00:30:06.500 live streams they can watch the clips um and also our podcast is doing very very well and it's growing we do our

00:30:12.540 radio program i'm sure i have other projects in addition to that but those are the ones that just

00:30:16.560 kind of come to mind unbelievable keep doing your incredible work i can't wait to one day see you is

00:30:22.980 a chance that you could be in politics am i am i going to someday be calling you president i mean

00:30:27.540 something i hope not i i i'm i'm very happy i'm very grateful for what i have and i i rarely meet a happy

00:30:35.740 politician rarely so well i'll tell you what i like i and forgive me for interrupting you in addition

00:30:41.800 to having all of the talents that you have you're tall i'm not i could never be prime minister or

00:30:48.380 president because unfortunately god did not endow me with height he endowed me with other qualities but

00:30:54.040 i don't have the height you've got all those other things and you're massively tall i see the white

00:30:59.220 house in your future i i have no plans to do that but dr sad if that happens you could be a senior

00:31:06.360 advisor oh my goodness he said it people he's got to live up to it otherwise he is a shady politician

00:31:11.940 charlie kirk what a pleasure to have you stay on the line so we could say goodbye offline thank you so

00:31:16.560 much a real pleasure talking to you thank you thank you cheers you bet

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The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - June 28, 2024

My Chat with Charlie Kirk, Author of Right Wing Revolution (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_692)

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