The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - My Chat with Marissa Streit, CEO of PragerU (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_710)

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00:01:16.580 Hi everybody, this is Gadsad for The Sad Truth. I have another unbelievable female honey badger with 1.00

00:01:22.680 me today. Marissa Streit, CEO of Prager University. How are you doing?

00:01:28.320 I like the honey badger welcome.

00:01:32.160 I wanted to read because I'm getting old. I might forget something. So you've been the CEO for many

00:01:37.820 years now, since 2011, as you've said, and you'll recount the story on air in a second. You were right

00:01:43.740 there in the kitchen when Dennis Prager and Alan Estrin started this whole thing, and you were involved

00:01:50.440 from the start. You have a master's degree in education and non-profit management. You worked

00:01:56.500 as a school administrator, and you were a director of a philanthropic institute, and you host two shows

00:02:01.500 on PragerU, both of which I was fortunate enough to be on, one of which is not out yet, so we could

00:02:06.800 talk about when that one is coming out. I'm looking forward to it. Real talk with Marissa Streit and

00:02:11.920 stories of us. So excited to have you, Marissa.

00:02:15.680 I'm excited to be here. You're my favorite professor, by the way. If every professor was like

00:02:21.220 you, our universities would be exactly what they should be.

00:02:25.740 Oh my God, you're so sweet. I don't know if you heard, by the way, speaking of that lovely, those kind

00:02:31.140 words from you. I think you and I off air when I came to visit PragerU a month ago, were talking about

00:02:38.800 possible moves that I might be making, and I'm happy to discuss it publicly now because it's publicly

00:02:43.900 available. I took a leave of absence from my university, and I'm going to a university for

00:02:50.840 one year at least, and I think they apparently share your views about me being a worthy professor

00:02:57.740 because unfortunately not all universities consider me worthy of being there in our woke ecosystem that

00:03:04.660 we live in. Well, the universities may not accept you, but the parents and the students want you,

00:03:11.060 right? It was just like the sign of our times. Wait, so can you disclose where you're going?

00:03:15.820 I could. So it started, it was an incredible thing. I was actually in California on doing some shows,

00:03:22.620 including two of yours, PragerU, and I receive an email from a president of a university,

00:03:28.260 Northwood University, which is a small university in Michigan, and the president says, look,

00:03:34.800 we're big admirers of what you do, all of your, not only your scientific work, but your, you know,

00:03:39.840 your clear thinking, your free thinking. We'd love to, you know, make you an offer. Because I was in

00:03:47.500 California and I couldn't go down to visit the school, I said, look, I don't feel comfortable

00:03:51.800 quitting my, you know, tenured position right off the bat, so why don't I come for a

00:03:57.360 one-year visiting professorship. And so my home university was kind enough to grant me a leave

00:04:05.420 of absence. And so I'll be spending one year as the official title is visiting professor and global

00:04:11.720 ambassador at Northwood University. So it's kind of not unlike how Hillsdale College has been able to

00:04:20.900 etch a unique niche for itself because of some of the political philosophy that it has,

00:04:26.240 pedagogically speaking. I think Northwood is trying to do something quite similar.

00:04:30.940 Well, professor, welcome to the United States of America. Congratulations to you

00:04:35.180 and congratulations to us for having one more normal professor in the United States,

00:04:41.000 one million more to go. Thank you. So how did you, so you were a school administrator,

00:04:46.900 you know, you come from a background where one can think, you know, you could have been

00:04:51.420 parasitized by all of those bad ideas. How is it that you're able to navigate in that ecosystem

00:04:58.340 and come out unscathed and help, you know, make PragerU what it is today?

00:05:04.440 Wow. You know, I think the way to develop discernment, sadly, requires building calluses

00:05:10.200 and having some adversity in childhood. And I wish it wasn't the case because, you know,

00:05:14.200 I have three kids under the age of 11 and I don't want them to experience adversity, right? What parent

00:05:20.000 wants to see their child suffer. But I also realize that when you have some adversity in your

00:05:26.060 childhood, you develop some skills that allow you to have discernment where you can tell right for

00:05:32.960 wrong and also not bow to the mob, right? Because so many people come out with parasitic ideas,

00:05:39.520 as you call them, or these maladaptive ideas, because the mob expects them to think these

00:05:45.120 things. So you go against your own common sense and you comply, even though you know deep inside of

00:05:52.640 you that is wrong. But if you grow up with some calluses, then you're not really afraid of what

00:05:58.280 people are going to say about you because you realize that there is a bigger picture and ultimately

00:06:03.320 the truth must persevere. And so for me, I had a complicated childhood. My parents divorced at a

00:06:10.640 very young age. They were previously married prior. And so I had stepsisters from both sides. It was all

00:06:18.180 women. So imagine three sisters from one side, two sisters from another side. My mother was an 1.00

00:06:25.140 immigrant from Morocco. And so English was a second language to her. And when she went through the

00:06:34.320 challenging divorce here in the United States, it was so hard for her that she ended up moving to

00:06:40.440 Israel and raising me there for a few years, which also as an American living in the Middle East

00:06:46.180 certainly gave me some calluses as well. It was just integrating into a new society where I was

00:06:53.600 different. But I always looked at it as a blessing because when you live outside of the United States

00:07:01.300 as an American, you just realize what a blessing the United States of America is. And when you are

00:07:07.840 labeled as different, oftentimes you associate even more so with your origins. And so I felt incredibly

00:07:16.580 American when living in the Middle East. And all of those experiences, I think, gave me those calluses

00:07:23.460 to not care so much what people think about me. So when I went to grad school and when I got my

00:07:30.160 master's in education and I thought differently. And, you know, Professor, I remember arguing with my

00:07:36.460 professor. You might not find that shocking. But I remember arguing with my professors of education

00:07:43.760 when they were pushing John Dewey down our throats or when they were saying that, you know,

00:07:50.340 a child centered classroom should mean that a child basically does whatever they want, where with

00:07:55.300 almost no guidance. And I remember going back to my professor and saying, I mean, this just sounds

00:08:00.020 bonkers. It sounds chaotic, like chaos. How do you run a classroom? I'm going into the classroom the

00:08:05.040 following day. I'm like, OK, kids, do whatever you want. What do you want to do? You be my boss. I'm like,

00:08:10.300 no, no, I can't run an eighth grade class like that. And so I remember having those arguments with my

00:08:16.320 professors back then. And I don't know, it just became part of my character to just not comply

00:08:22.960 when experts tower over me.

00:08:26.800 And so you're in the educational ecosystem for a while. How does the link to start PragerU and

00:08:34.640 become its CEO in 2011 happen? Tell us about the genesis of that story.

00:08:39.480 Yeah. So at PragerU, Dennis Prager, Alan Estrin, who is the producer of the Dennis Prager show,

00:08:47.440 and I sat down and basically we said, education got us into this mess. Education will get us out.

00:08:53.940 There is so much indoctrination that is effectively Marxist in the United States of America, that if we

00:09:01.300 don't educate the public about what is true and what is false, we will lose America. And so actually,

00:09:09.480 coming out of the world of education has been very helpful to me, both as CEO and running a

00:09:15.840 business, because I think that being an educator is so helpful in running a company. You kind of

00:09:21.700 understand how to communicate and how a mind works. But it was also helpful to me in seeing what was

00:09:27.280 missing, that gap that was missing in America and why people have these nonsensical ideas. To me,

00:09:35.520 it's very clear, well, why are Americans laced with nonsensical ideas? Well, it's because it's what

00:09:41.940 we taught them from kindergarten through 12th grade. And so, you know, parents are just so shocked to see

00:09:47.300 these college students behaving so poorly and believing in things that are so strange, where

00:09:53.300 they can't tell the difference between a male or a female or right from wrong, right? People are so 0.99

00:09:58.680 shocked, where I'm not shocked. I'm actually, I mean, I'm saddened, but I'm not shocked, because I know

00:10:05.760 that this is what our kids have been learning from kindergarten. So when we decided to come up with

00:10:11.440 PragerU, we realized that there is a mind virus that is inserted into a child's brain starting in

00:10:21.080 kindergarten. And the way to inoculate them against these terrible ideas is through true education

00:10:29.040 that does teach discernment, that does teach personal responsibility, perseverance, all of these things

00:10:35.800 that we're not teaching in class. And that's why we decided to create PragerU. But we knew, we knew that

00:10:41.660 the education establishment will never let us in. We're very keenly aware of the teacher's unions, which

00:10:48.100 is a behemoth in the United States. I call them the biggest bully in schools. And we know about the

00:10:55.100 Department of Education. And so when we came up with this idea of lifting America out of education

00:11:01.380 poverty, we realized that if we went to the institutions directly, they would reject us,

00:11:06.380 because they are doing what they're set to do, which is to dumb down the population. So instead,

00:11:12.960 we decided to kind of look at the model the way Uber and taxis looked at the model. Remember when

00:11:20.800 when Uber came out, everybody was in shock. Everybody said, what? Nobody would go into a stranger's car.

00:11:26.760 Why would you do that? Why would you use your phone to communicate with another entity and trust them and

00:11:33.800 go into their car? But now, how often do you take a taxi out of the airport versus an Uber?

00:11:39.420 Probably Uber, right? And so we looked at Uber and taxi. And we basically said, let's transform

00:11:47.940 education. Let's disrupt the market. And instead of going through the institutions that people have

00:11:55.200 been taught to look at forever, let's create new institutions that don't go through the old school

00:12:02.940 guard, but actually provide the service directly to the customer. And we grabbed those same phones that

00:12:08.320 Uber inventors came up with. And we directly started reaching our market without asking the education

00:12:19.680 institutions for permission. And the experiment grew over the last 13 years. We started, we went on

00:12:25.800 YouTube, we went on Instagram, we went on Twitter, we went, we went everywhere. We created our own

00:12:30.400 OTT channels. And, you know, fast forward, 13 years later, we eclipsed 2 billion annual views.

00:12:38.640 Wow. Amazing. Do you worry? And I think I saw in one of the bios where you sort of decided that you're

00:12:45.680 not going down, you weren't going to go down the credentializing route. Do you think, I mean,

00:12:51.940 knowledge is knowledge, irrespective of whether you get an imprimatur or not. So in that sense,

00:12:56.240 you're obviously, you know, catering very successfully to the minds that you're trying

00:13:01.180 to inoculate against these bad ideas. But do you think that there is some obstacle for people to

00:13:07.480 consume the material? Because at the end of my consuming all that knowledge, I'm not getting

00:13:12.800 that paper that otherwise I need as an imprimatur when I go out into the marketplace?

00:13:18.480 You know, God, my hope is that PragerU doesn't just educate the public about history and political

00:13:25.140 science and how to find happiness. My hope is that we educate the public that these institutions

00:13:30.460 should not tower over us. And the reason I have no interest in getting credentialed by these

00:13:37.120 institutions is because if we pursue these credentials, then we're still giving them that

00:13:42.200 power. I have learned more from you, professor, than any of my degrees. And I have not received a

00:13:50.480 piece of paper while learning from you. And so what is more significant? A piece of paper,

00:13:56.640 which by the way, comes from an institution that is likely not even teaching for jobs that exist

00:14:01.920 anymore in the United States, right? Like who even needs that anymore? And so us not getting

00:14:07.860 credentialed is a bigger message, which is we don't need these pieces of paper that are useless and

00:14:16.020 are expensive. I mean, you know, how many families I know go practically bankrupt to send their kids

00:14:21.760 to a four year institution with a degree and absolute nonsense. We don't need that. And so that

00:14:29.160 is our message is not only that we can teach what isn't taught. Our message is that these credentials

00:14:36.340 are bogus, right? Unless you're getting a medical degree, maybe, but even they have been

00:14:41.620 parasitized. They've been parasitized. That's a good word.

00:14:46.880 So you and I offline, I think prior to Real Talk, I think it was just before then, we were chatting

00:14:54.220 about, it speaks to the conversation about, you know, you're not educating people for actually the

00:14:59.680 types of jobs that are necessary. And you had told me offline, I hope you don't mind me saying it,

00:15:03.920 and you could decide whether you want to, you know, expand on it here or not. You were talking about

00:15:08.020 how when you're choosing MBAs to come work at PragerU, you actually look for certain skills that

00:15:16.240 are not necessarily those that you would typically associate with getting an MBA. And I thought that

00:15:21.440 was a very valuable conversation. Can you tell us a bit about that?

00:15:25.700 Yeah. I mean, I hope that you don't have too many MBA listeners that are now going to get upset with

00:15:29.660 me, but if they haven't figured out that I'm a troublemaker, at the very least, get people to think

00:15:33.920 differently. Yeah. I have a, I have an issue with MBA or is it because look, every person is

00:15:39.820 different, right? You can go and get an MBA and still be an incredible employee, right? An incredible

00:15:44.420 thinker. But in general, my issue with MBA schools is that they, they don't follow what I call the

00:15:51.820 Leonardo da Vinci model. Right. And so to me, the, the, the, this concept of the jack of all trades,

00:15:59.660 master of none is ridiculous because my best employees are ones that are able to wear multiple

00:16:06.700 hats. And the reason they're my best employees is because they sit on the edge of, of their

00:16:12.920 expertise, right next to an edge of another expertise. And therefore they can innovate and

00:16:19.080 they can synthesize and they can troubleshoot. And many MBAs train students to go work for corporate

00:16:26.280 America where you're a cog in the system and you're not necessarily an innovator and you're not

00:16:32.780 tuned into the most recent research and the most recent, um, technologies that are available. You

00:16:40.960 are, you're really passing through these books and org charts and boxes and how to basically scale a

00:16:47.300 giant company. And maybe some giant companies need that, but if you're a smaller company and you have

00:16:53.940 that innovator spirit, I have felt that in general, these MBAs are not trained to do that. They're

00:17:00.900 really also trained to comply. They're trained to comply with ideas that have been made available

00:17:09.080 to them by other people. And I would love to see MBA schools that push people not to comply, but to

00:17:15.820 innovate and to break the rules, right? Breaking the rules is how we make progress. So that is my

00:17:22.820 criticism of, of MBA schools is putting people in boxes and org charts. Yeah. As, as we had discussed

00:17:28.800 offline during that conversation, I, I wholeheartedly supported your Leonardo da Vinci, uh, reference as

00:17:36.000 you know, but maybe some of our viewers may not. Uh, when I play the game of which 10 people would

00:17:42.000 you want to invite historical people? Would you want to invite to your dinner party? The number one

00:17:46.020 person on my list is Leonardo da Vinci for exactly the reasons that you mentioned, right? He's a,

00:17:50.400 he's a great anatomist and a painter and a, and a sculptor and a, uh, uh, you know, a scientist and

00:17:56.700 a futurist, right? I mean, he's, he's doing designs of helicopters and machine guns 500 years before

00:18:02.160 anyone had come up with that idea. And so being that true polymath is so important. Now, more than

00:18:08.120 just in MBA schools, academics are trained to precisely be hyper specialists. Now, to some extent

00:18:14.800 that makes sense in that there are some fields that are so profoundly specialized that you really

00:18:19.980 do have to go in your stay in your lane kind of silo in order to be able to advance the, the core

00:18:25.980 knowledge in that field. But the truly breakthrough ideas always happen at the intersection of

00:18:32.940 disciplines. And so when my own doctoral students ask me, so what should I do? Should I be a hyper

00:18:39.040 specialist or should I be a generalist? Uh, I tell them that regrettably universities reward the hyper

00:18:45.980 specialists, but life is too short. And if you want to make truly big breakthroughs, then you, you have

00:18:52.740 to operate, as you said, in synthetic world, you synthesize things, right? Consilience. So I couldn't

00:18:58.720 agree with you more. Do you think that this is something that we'll be able to convince universities

00:19:04.280 to teach that kind of broad thinking, or are we so stuck in our stay in your lane mindset that this

00:19:11.020 is precisely why we have Breaker U because we can't break the existing models? Right. So how do we

00:19:16.400 embrace resumes that are all over the place? Right. Which is what, what, uh, what an MBA school will tell

00:19:21.800 you not to do. You know, I, I actually think that AI is going to force us to do that because with machine

00:19:28.460 learning, the hyper specialized types of jobs will be conquered through machines and this ability to

00:19:36.580 have instinct and develop, um, a more macro view of, of any sort of job is going to become more and more,

00:19:45.480 uh, a need in the market because that is the great differentiator. I hope between AI and, and humans,

00:19:52.920 where we can add in some of the EQ factor, the emotional factors, the, um, the synthesis of real

00:20:00.160 life experience, as well as, I guess, expertise. And so I think those who are able to do that are

00:20:08.680 going to be going to have an edge over AI. And I think the market's going to force us to do it now.

00:20:15.000 So will the university be able to where, will the universities be able to keep up with that and,

00:20:21.120 and teach students how to do that? That I don't know because it, these systems are such behemoths.

00:20:27.160 Even now we're seeing that they're teaching students things that are completely irrelevant

00:20:31.860 to the job market today. And so to expect them to make a further leap into that, I don't know,

00:20:39.040 but I think that given how much learning we can do online through podcasts and, um, YouTube and,

00:20:47.180 and PragerU, I think that more people are going to start walking away from the universities,

00:20:52.700 realizing that they could probably get more out of the internet than, than these colleges. And,

00:21:00.720 and hopefully those pieces of paper that people are paying so much money for are going to become

00:21:06.700 more and more irrelevant. Yeah. You know, one of the things that I get most, um, enriched by,

00:21:14.500 I mean, when I receive, you know, letters from fans to your point is it's, it's not when the Stanford

00:21:20.780 professor writes to me to say, Oh, I love this paper that you wrote. It's the trucker who says,

00:21:27.040 Oh, I, you know, I always listen to your podcast when I'm doing my whatever Kansas city to whatever

00:21:34.820 route. And it has made me excited to go back and learn in whichever form that that person chooses.

00:21:40.840 Because if I'm able to cater to the trucker and to the corrections officer and to the military guy,

00:21:49.360 then I know that my message is resonating. Uh, because ultimately as a professor, I mean,

00:21:54.380 I'm tasked with doing two things. Number one, of course, creating new knowledge, but number two,

00:22:00.100 which we often forget is to disseminate new knowledge. Now, typically the academic world

00:22:05.420 has viewed the only acceptable place to disseminate new knowledge is through peer reviewed journals,

00:22:11.820 which of course is necessary because you need to make sure that the quality control is there.

00:22:16.800 And so we need to have peer review. That's great. But there is no point in doing all of this

00:22:21.260 exciting research that hopefully people should learn about. If I can't go on PragerU or Joe Rogan

00:22:28.720 and share that those exciting ideas with millions of people. Now, when I first started telling that

00:22:34.820 story to my academic colleagues, they would look down on me in a very snooty kind of smarmy way,

00:22:40.520 right? You know, what are you doing being on podcasts? That's so unprofessorial today. I think

00:22:47.500 they're starting to come around in your interaction with academics, however many you've had. Are you seeing

00:22:53.320 that shift where academia used to truly consider itself part of the anointed ones in the ivory tower

00:22:59.720 and they're now coming down to talk to the great unwashed? Or do you think we're still as elitist as

00:23:05.620 ever in academia? Well, isn't that funny? Because these elitists are the same people who say, well,

00:23:11.100 universal education for all, give education for everybody, you know, forgive the loans, right? Like

00:23:18.840 loan forgiveness, let's educate everybody, right? That's what they say. But then when professors

00:23:24.900 like you want to make your research available to everybody, they mock you, right? And so, I mean,

00:23:31.240 like talk about discernment, some light bulb should go on where people should just say, well,

00:23:35.620 wait a second, which one is it? You know, Mr. Elitist. I would definitely say that there has been a

00:23:42.700 shift. I don't think the shift again comes from these institutions. I remember when we started,

00:23:46.960 this is a great story. I remember when we started PragerU and we decided to make these short videos,

00:23:53.400 five-minute videos, stories of us. We wanted to take people's research and really cook it down to

00:23:59.720 the nugget that one could digest while waiting to buy their coffee or in the line for at the market.

00:24:07.160 You can watch a quick five-minute video and instantly get smarter about something. And PragerU is a

00:24:13.040 nonprofit. And so we're funded by donations. People need to believe that we are doing good for

00:24:19.120 society for them to give us a contribution so we can do our work. And so we pitched this idea to a

00:24:24.160 bunch of donors. And we said, you know, we want to take the great work of whatever professor and we

00:24:29.300 want to turn it into a five-minute video. And they mocked us. They mocked us. People would say, well,

00:24:34.300 how could you take something so deep, so brilliant? You know, economics is so brilliant. It's so deep.

00:24:41.880 It's so important. You can't cook it down to only five minutes. Like, how dare you? How dare you rob

00:24:47.640 it of its density, right? And 10 years later, I remember Alan Estrin and I, I looked at Alan Estrin

00:24:56.760 because we were really lauded by a bunch of people. People were saying, wow, this is incredible.

00:25:01.840 You reached, you know, 60 million views on what is the Electoral College, explaining what the

00:25:08.300 Electoral College is in the United States, right? And so we had the classroom at a size that very few

00:25:14.860 people have, right? And so everybody got excited about it. I looked at Alan Estrin and I said,

00:25:21.020 this is our, what is it? Do you remember the movie Pretty Woman where she walks back

00:25:26.380 into a store in Rodeo Drive with a bunch of bags? Oh, yes. You should have spoken to me. You should

00:25:32.300 have paid attention to me. She's like, big mistake. Exactly. Huge. You shouldn't have looked down on me 0.62

00:25:39.700 because I've got the money. Exactly. Don't you look down at me, right? And so that is the point that we

00:25:45.120 make at PragerU. Don't you look down at Americans. Don't you look down. People are busy. They're hard

00:25:51.900 working, but they want to get the knowledge. And just because they're not willing to pay thousands

00:25:56.940 of dollars for, again, a useless piece of paper, it doesn't mean that they don't want to get educated.

00:26:02.240 And why should they not have access to professors like you, given that we have the internet? And why

00:26:07.500 should the educational elitist prevent you from reaching millions of people? Don't we want the public

00:26:15.160 to be more educated? Yeah, beautiful. So, I mean, one of the things I talk about in the last book on

00:26:22.120 happiness, where I talk about, you know, pathways to happiness, you know, choose the right spouse,

00:26:27.820 choose the right profession. And in the in the section on choosing the right profession, I talk

00:26:32.260 about, you know, any job that allows you to instantiate your creativity impulse is one that's

00:26:37.520 going to inherently make you happy, whether I'm a chef or an architect or a standup comic or a

00:26:42.880 professor or a PragerU content creator, I'm creating something that didn't exist until I came

00:26:49.340 along and instantiated my creativity impulse. And so in your case, as the CEO of this big content

00:26:55.960 creating machine, I mean, it should it probably is not very difficult for you to wake up every morning

00:27:02.180 with a great sense of existential glee, because you are immersed all day long. And okay, what's the

00:27:08.360 next big story we're going to tell, right? I mean, so one of my there's this concept of work,

00:27:15.980 a working genius that Pat Lencioni wrote a book about people's, I guess, traits and what they

00:27:21.700 enjoy to do. And so I I'm an innovator, I love innovating. I mean, I love breaking rules, and I

00:27:27.200 love innovating. And so when you talk about every morning waking up and feeling like there's something

00:27:32.460 more that we can do here at PragerU, that certainly happens. Obviously, I have to restrain myself and

00:27:38.100 remember that we have budgets, and we have team members, and we stay focused. But really, you know,

00:27:43.480 Professor, that's how PragerU Kids started. For the first 10 years, we made content to undo the damage

00:27:49.180 of what's happening in the universities. And we are mostly focused on higher level content

00:27:55.740 dissemination. And two years ago, almost three years ago, when the lockdowns happened, where parents

00:28:02.600 kept writing in saying, we're we are watching what our kids are learning in schools, or what they're not

00:28:07.820 learning in schools, how do we make sure that they get those intellectual nuggets, those, you know,

00:28:13.680 mind vitamins to prevent them from having a parasitic mind, we then innovated and created PragerU Kids.

00:28:21.000 And so, you know, we try to have kind of a balance between what more needs to be done, what can we

00:28:26.840 afford to do, and what is needed, what is needed of us. So sometimes I have to restrain myself as

00:28:34.500 well, right? And since we do need the, we do need the people around us to remind us what's within our

00:28:40.020 capacity. Well, I could tell you this, and I'm not, believe me, I'm not just giving you a cheap

00:28:45.000 compliment, because you're the CEO of PragerU. So in the few occasions that I've been lucky enough to be

00:28:50.420 invited by you guys to do several shows, I've done a couple of the five minute ones. And then,

00:28:54.840 as I said, I've done a couple of your shows recently, and so on. I can really feel that

00:28:59.740 every single person who's there is really happy to be there, right? Now, it could be that they're

00:29:06.060 just faking it because you're around and you're the big boss. But I didn't get that sense. I got

00:29:10.700 the sense that everybody felt that there's this kind of common mission, everybody's smiley,

00:29:15.700 everybody's on board, everybody, not to imply that everybody should be ideologically in an

00:29:20.560 echo chamber, but you got the sense that we know what we're doing, we're fortunate to be here.

00:29:25.860 And whether you're the camera person or the booker or the CEO, you're happy to be there.

00:29:31.680 Am I reading this right?

00:29:33.540 So I'll share something. I don't think I've ever shared this publicly, but I'll share it with you.

00:29:38.440 So one of the things that I tell new staff members when they join PragerU, and this is probably the

00:29:44.220 most important thing I believe I ever say to them. Usually, I meet with them within the first

00:29:48.820 two months of joining. We have about 150 employees. So usually, it's a group of 10, 15 new staff

00:29:56.580 members. And the first thing I say is, welcome to PragerU. I'm so glad that you're here. And I'm

00:30:03.720 sure that you're here for many different reasons. You probably share our values. You've joined our

00:30:08.680 mission. But there is diversity of thought here. I mean, there are people who have different

00:30:13.340 religions. There are people who are atheists. There are people who come from different places

00:30:16.780 around the world. You know, this really is e pluribus unum for many one. And I do say to them,

00:30:22.860 I don't care about your last name. I don't care about your genitalia. I don't care about the color 1.00

00:30:27.340 of your skin. What I care about is that you work hard and think critically. That's how you advance

00:30:32.100 at PragerU. That's the first thing I say. And then I say to them, let me warn you, this is our prenup.

00:30:37.640 There will be a moment at PragerU where you're going to feel like you're in the pit of despair.

00:30:42.160 You're going to ask yourself, why am I here? This is so unfair. My boss is unfair to me.

00:30:51.460 My colleague is unfair to me. I am being treated unfairly. Unfair, unfair, unfair, unfair. Because

00:30:59.100 honestly, the parasitic mind, this idea that you can become a victim, nobody is inoculated against that.

00:31:06.340 Not if you're on the left and not if you're on the right. We are all susceptible to that kind of

00:31:13.400 thought. And so it will happen to employees who come to PragerU that they will feel like

00:31:19.600 they're very unhappy and they're mistreated or they're pushed too hard. And so I remind this during

00:31:25.120 the honeymoon phase. I remind them that. I say, right now, you're so excited to be here, but I

00:31:29.720 guarantee you that you're going to hit the pit of despair because we're going to push you really hard

00:31:34.000 and it's going to hurt and you're going to suffer. And so let me say this. Take your mind when you're

00:31:39.600 in that moment. Go back to this conversation that we're having right now. And I want to tell you

00:31:45.280 that if you are not pushed and if you don't feel like you reach pit of despair in your career at

00:31:50.460 one point or another, it means that nobody pushed you. It means that you didn't push you. It means

00:31:55.740 that nobody believed that you could do more than what you think that you could do. And so when you're in

00:32:02.160 that moment, pull yourself out of it, shake it off and nobody emerges from hell empty handed, just get

00:32:09.460 stronger, get out of that victim mindset and get stronger and land on your feet. Because once you do

00:32:15.960 that, you will look back and you will realize that it's the best career gift you've ever been given. And

00:32:22.240 so when you say, Professor, that people walk around all happy here at PragerU, they don't. They have

00:32:28.060 moments. They have moments, especially if they're direct reports to me, they will have moments where

00:32:33.120 they're like, what the hell does she want me to do? Right. But, but they do look back and they realize

00:32:40.080 that if somebody pushes them, it means that somebody believes in them. And that if somebody believes in

00:32:44.740 them, they will be able to do even more. And so I, maybe it's the prenup that I sign with our staff,

00:32:51.900 uh, the stuff that they don't learn in an MBA school. Well, I'll tell you a great story that,

00:32:57.120 that builds on what you just said about sort of making your employees face these important

00:33:01.820 stressors. I actually tell that story in the, in the happiness book. So when I was passing what we,

00:33:08.160 we call it Cornell, the A exam, the A exam is, uh, just before you go all but dissertation. So you're,

00:33:14.880 you have to do two things in the A exam. You have to defend your doctoral dissertation proposal.

00:33:20.200 So this is what I plan to do my PhD on. This is the importance of this problem. This is how

00:33:25.200 it will contribute to knowledge, blah, blah, blah. And then there's what's called the open general

00:33:29.500 comprehensive exam. So all of the doctoral committee members. So let's say I've got a,

00:33:33.660 a psychology committee member, a, a statistics committee member. They can ask me a question

00:33:38.820 on anything about anything. So, I mean, in the grand scheme of exams, it can't get by definition

00:33:46.160 worse than that. But I had always had a beautiful relationship with my doctoral student, uh, my

00:33:51.160 doctoral committee members. Uh, you know, I was top, top student at Cornell, so I had nothing to worry

00:33:56.220 about. So I walk in the day of the exam to, to present my doctoral dissertation. And as I finished

00:34:03.360 my presentation, the first person to ask a question is my doctoral supervisor, who is a very well-known

00:34:10.720 cognitive psychologist. And so he asks a question and then I answer it. And so he, he kind of takes

00:34:16.820 a deep breath and says it with very, very strong authority. I'm going to ask the question one more

00:34:23.080 time, hoping that maybe this time you'll understand it. Now I'd never seen him speak like this to me.

00:34:30.840 So for the next, for the, so that set the tone for how they would grill me during that meeting.

00:34:37.360 Then at the end of the exam, they asked me to step outside while they deliberate. And now that

00:34:42.620 deliberation, it's either you're kicked out of the program or you go on to, to finally complete your

00:34:48.760 PhD. And so I, as I'm walking out, I asked the doctoral supervisor, his name is Jay Russo.

00:34:55.040 He recently retired at Cornell. I said to him, uh, where should I stand? He goes, well, stand

00:34:59.980 far enough from the door so that you can't hear what we're saying. Again, very, very nasty. So I 0.77

00:35:06.040 leave and I'm like, my, my head is spinning, right? I'm a super cool guy. I know my stuff.

00:35:10.540 What just happened there? Why were they so nasty? Right. I walk. So then they come out. I walk back

00:35:16.980 in completely different demeanor. They're very, very friendly, very smiley. So I turned to my supervisor

00:35:23.520 and, and he goes, you know, congratulations, whatever. So I look at him and I think I might've even said,

00:35:29.180 what the fuck Jay, he goes, all just some good old fashioned, uh, Ivy league butt kicking to, to see 0.99

00:35:37.520 if we can make a man out of you. So that whole thing was, look, you're going to have to go out 1.00

00:35:43.080 on campus visits for professorships, you know, at Harvard and university of Rochester and all the

00:35:49.540 top. And they're not going to all be fuzzy, warm stuff. They're going to be testing every single

00:35:55.600 syllable that you say, if we're just going to hug you and say how pretty you are. It's, I mean,

00:36:00.580 I'm paraphrasing what he said. So it's exactly your story, which is, and today I tell that story

00:36:07.280 with great gratitude for them having beaten the shit out of me because what you go through right

00:36:13.960 now. Exactly. So maybe I would have, I don't think I would have wilted into a dainty flower, 0.66

00:36:20.260 but it certainly helped that, that I had the good old fashioned, not everybody receives a

00:36:25.300 participation trophy. All right, moving on. Uh, I mean, one of the things that, uh, you know,

00:36:31.800 when I was an MBA student, I remember studying is leadership. And I remember I had a professor

00:36:36.360 who actually moved from McGill university where I did my MBA to a university in Southern California.

00:36:42.240 Uh, and I think he's still there. His name is Jay Conger. And he was the big leadership expert

00:36:48.000 in MBA in business school. And he argued that leadership can be learned. And even as an MBA

00:36:54.700 student, I, I was a bit suspicious of that. It struck me as though much of who you are as a leader

00:37:00.820 is something innate. My feeling is Marissa is who Marissa is when she puts on her leadership hat 1.00

00:37:06.980 because it's an inextricable mix of her personhood, not because she took seminar ABC. So what are your

00:37:13.800 thoughts on that? Is leadership nurture or nature? I mean, I know it's a bit of both,

00:37:18.820 but where would you put the balance more? Yeah. I mean, I think that when you say,

00:37:23.280 could leadership be learned, leadership is learned every single day. It's the school of life. I mean,

00:37:30.000 there's, I think when you're, when you're a CEO, uh, or a parent, uh, which is the CEO of your house,

00:37:37.500 you realize how much you learn because when you're dealing with humans and humanity,

00:37:41.620 uh, you just learn so much. So I think that it, as you said, it's a combination of portion of it is

00:37:48.040 I always had that kind of natural instinct to be a bit of a troublemaker, uh, and to think a little

00:37:53.500 differently. And I think that when you are able to think a little differently, you're able to lead

00:37:58.040 because people will follow you if you're not running with the herd, but you're running a little

00:38:02.880 against the herd. And if you're running against the herd in the correct way, then more people will

00:38:07.560 follow you. And so I always had a little bit of that in me, but I would say that I, I am constantly

00:38:14.660 learning constantly. I'm following people like you. I'm reading, reading books. I'm, I'm reading

00:38:21.400 the audience that is following us. I'm reading the staff that works with me. And so I am constantly

00:38:27.420 learning. And I think that the leader I am today is not the same leader I was 10 years ago.

00:38:33.700 Right. And so if everything was innate and I was just born with all these skillsets, then I would

00:38:38.020 have been the same, the same type of leader 10 years ago. But you know, everything is another

00:38:43.060 step. And sometimes I'll go through something really hard right now and not realize again,

00:38:48.420 this pit of despair, why am I going through this? And then three, four years later, I'll go through

00:38:53.020 something way harder. But because I went through something prior, I learned how to handle that next

00:38:59.240 phase of my leadership. So I, I think it's a combination. It certainly humbles you. That's

00:39:04.980 for sure. Uh, I think that, you know, when you, when you start and you're younger and you're leading

00:39:09.580 people, you think that you're going to read books and know what to do. And then you deal with real life

00:39:14.940 and just everything just requires my favorite word, constant discernment. There's no formula.

00:39:22.320 Yeah. Beautiful. Uh, okay. So I want to do a bit of current events and then I might ask you one or

00:39:27.080 two, uh, you know, more personal questions at the end. I mean, not, nothing too intrusive.

00:39:31.500 Don't worry about it. No worries. But, uh, let's talk about some of the current events. Uh, I can't

00:39:37.060 remember if when I came to PragerU last month, whether Kamala had been coronated as Empress of the

00:39:44.680 world or not, but, uh, in any case, I can't remember the exact temporal sequencing. What are your

00:39:50.480 thoughts? Are you feeling a bit less optimistic about Trump's chances? Give us the breakdown.

00:39:56.520 Yeah. So, uh, optimistic, pessimistic, I don't know. Depends on the day, right? It's like the,

00:40:02.900 you know, sadly after president Trump was shot, I felt, and he, you know, stood up with, you know,

00:40:08.880 his arm up and it was, it was an optimistic moment. First of all, thank God he, nothing happened to him

00:40:15.840 that was, you know, significant and, and pulled him out of the chances of leaving the, leading the

00:40:21.140 United States. But the other part of it is that, um, it felt like he could win maybe. And, um, you

00:40:29.980 know, Kamala coming in, I, I, I really don't know. And I don't know that it matters optimism or

00:40:35.360 pessimism. And by the way, I'm speaking on behalf of myself, not PragerU. People have different

00:40:39.120 opinions here about what they hope would happen. But I personally, uh, I'm, I'm concerned about

00:40:45.540 Kamala being a nominee who is running on this identity politics, gender stuff. I find that to 0.92

00:40:53.280 be as a woman, um, and as a mom of two girls to be very, very troubling because we should not vote 0.56

00:41:01.100 for anybody because of their genitalia. We should vote for people based on their capacity and their

00:41:07.000 merit. Cause at the end of the day, when the leader of the United States of America is negotiating

00:41:12.980 with other countries around the world or making decisions for our own country, it has nothing to

00:41:18.580 do with their gender and everything to do with their capacity and capability. And so it worries me,

00:41:25.740 especially as CEO of a company, I don't want to be looked at as if I received my position because of

00:41:32.080 my gender or genitalia. I know when I want to be looked at with respect based on the hard work and

00:41:38.260 critical thinking that I put into the company. And I want to teach my daughters that it's the same

00:41:42.900 case that if they work hard and think critically and have a little bit of luck in life and just do

00:41:47.640 the right thing, they will ascend and be able to do great things. I don't want them marching and saying

00:41:53.100 vote for me because I'm a woman select me because I'm a woman, make a space for me on a board because 0.99

00:41:59.620 I'm a woman. I think that's demeaning and it's the exact opposite of equality. And so, you know,

00:42:06.380 personally, I find it really troubling to see that women are voting for women just because they're

00:42:12.500 women. Imagine men only voted for men just because they're men. I'm like, can you imagine somebody 0.76

00:42:19.080 said that? I'm only going to vote for a man because he's a man. But why are women allowed to say I'm 1.00

00:42:24.180 only going to vote for a woman because she's a woman? I just think it's absolutely ridiculous. 0.99

00:42:28.520 I mean, not just the identity politics stuff that you just mentioned, which is contrary to the 0.56

00:42:33.780 foundational ethos of individual dignity and so on. But even her, you know, the price control stuff,

00:42:40.160 I did a clip where I broke that down, you know, not to pull rank as a business school professor,

00:42:45.760 but I mean, it's kind of if you've taken economics 101 or taken macroeconomics at the MBA, you know

00:42:52.700 what the downstream effects of price controls are, right? But and so pretty much anything that she

00:42:59.380 espouses to the extent that she, you know, she ever enunciates a coherent sentence is contrary to the

00:43:05.900 most foundational values that define what the United States is. And yet I speak to people where

00:43:12.340 I challenge them. Why are you voting for her? And to your point, Marissa, it's always the positive

00:43:17.840 vibe stuff. It's, you know, how exciting is it that it's a first woman? How exciting is it that

00:43:23.840 she's a person of color? By the way, I think I'm a lot darker now than she's ever been, if only 1.00

00:43:29.900 because I was in my natural glow in Southern California. But to your point, I don't want to be

00:43:34.840 judged based on how nice my skin skin tone is. So is there I mean, I'm the guy who wrote the

00:43:42.560 parasitic mind. And yet I feel great despair at not being able to break through this unbelievable

00:43:49.120 obstacle that the electorate is exhibiting, whereby it's all based on the affective system

00:43:55.800 feelings rather than the cognitive system, right? I've never had anyone tell me here are the seven

00:44:02.820 cognitive reasons why I think Kamala Harris is going to be a great president. It's always positive

00:44:09.640 vibe, joy, excitement, first woman, first black, and so on. Can we, do you have any inoculation

00:44:16.820 against people invoking their affective system rather than cognitive system?

00:44:22.240 I don't know how to fix it, but I know why the problem has occurred. And that is, this is what we

00:44:27.520 teach our kids in schools. We teach them multiculturalism. We teach them emotion, emotion,

00:44:32.900 emotion, SEL, social, emotional learning. We don't teach them critical thinking. We don't teach them

00:44:38.600 that merit matters. We don't teach them that hard work actually yields results. We don't teach them

00:44:44.060 that the harder they work, the luckier they get. We teach them all of the opposite of that. And so

00:44:49.200 how is it a surprise to us, professor, that when they grow up, all they care about is the emotional,

00:44:57.740 mushy, feel-good, multiculturalism elements of a prospective leader, right? That's what we taught

00:45:07.740 them matters. And so how do we go back on what we teach them? That's your question, right? Like we taught

00:45:13.860 them all these things and we signal to them that these things really matter because we've gone

00:45:20.320 bankrupt on paying for these schools to teach them these things, right? It was like put every single

00:45:27.000 dollar that we add into a bank account to pay for them to go to these institutions that we have

00:45:33.020 idolized, right? The universities in the United States of America, especially the Jewish community, 1.00

00:45:38.160 by the way, ironically, they idolize these universities. And so is it a great surprise

00:45:44.300 to us that now these kids are growing up and they're looking at people like Kamala Harris only

00:45:49.580 through the lens of multiculturalism and victim bingo? This is what we taught them. That's what 0.98

00:45:56.680 matters, right? So how do you undo this? I don't know that you can undo it in four years or four

00:46:04.000 months. I think it's going to take a while to, first of all, go after the institutions that have

00:46:09.480 paralyzed our children's brains. And can we win? I think it is very possible that people inside of

00:46:17.840 them do have discernment because at the end of the day, humans need to survive. We can't constantly

00:46:24.540 make maladaptive decisions, right? Ultimately, I would argue, and I would ask you the same question,

00:46:30.740 would a survival instinct start kicking in soon when we realize that we're constantly making

00:46:36.340 maladaptive decisions? Because it is maladaptive to choose a leader for us that is based on the

00:46:42.660 color of their skin or their gender. Really, what should be adaptive is to choose a leader for us

00:46:47.800 who would be good. But would that happen too late? That I don't know. How long does it take to undo

00:46:55.120 the brainwashing? Yeah. So I agree that the parasitic indoctrination makes it easy to channel

00:47:05.200 you into an emotion-based process. But I think that even if, so this is going to be a pessimistic

00:47:12.640 statement that I'm going to make. Even if there weren't a single parasitic idea pathogen that is

00:47:18.720 being taught in the universities, I think you still face the problem of most people triggering their

00:47:24.540 affective system more than the cognitive system. And let me explain why. So when you're navigating

00:47:30.540 through the world, you have computational complexity, right? It takes a lot for me to

00:47:35.720 process all of the information that's coming at me. Now, my emotions serve as a fastly deployable

00:47:43.820 strategy, right? Because my emotions don't require, most people regrettably are cognitive misers,

00:47:49.500 which is a fancy way of saying they're intellectually lazy, right? So it takes a lot of effort for me to

00:47:54.440 sit down and create a multi-attribute model of all of the attributes that define Kamala Harris versus

00:48:01.600 Donald Trump, weigh them, give weights to each one. How do they, that takes a lot of effort, right?

00:48:07.740 It's much quicker for me to just deploy my affective system that allows me to quickly converge to a

00:48:15.320 decision and move on with my day. So there is a very well-known academic psychologist by the name

00:48:21.140 of Gerd Gigerenzer. He's a, he recently retired. He was a professor of, you know, psychology of

00:48:26.820 decision-making at Max Planck Institute in Germany. So he coined the term fast and frugal heuristics,

00:48:33.240 right? A heuristic is a shortcut. A fast and frugal heuristic is one that is frugal in that it doesn't

00:48:39.120 take much cognitive effort. And it's fast, it is quickly deployed. So I argue that our emotional

00:48:45.360 system is a fast and frugal mechanism, right? I just need to see her saying some bullshit platitudes 1.00

00:48:52.100 while smiling. I feel good. I'm voting for her. Donald Trump is cantankerous. He looks nasty. He 1.00

00:48:59.360 looks like he's brash. Therefore he's an asshole. That's good enough for me. Let's move on. So I think 1.00

00:49:06.020 regrettably, it's a default design of the architecture of the human mind to fall prey to emotions. And

00:49:13.520 politicians know that. That's why when it comes to election season, they're all holding babies. Why

00:49:19.680 are they holding babies? Because that image is a very, very quick way to tap into my emotions. What

00:49:25.460 do you think of that? Well, and also add some educational and early childhood development stuff

00:49:30.380 into this. And so number one is kids are conditioned and not just kids, grownups included are conditioned

00:49:36.380 to just read the headlines, especially with social media, right? That's all they do. They just read the

00:49:41.460 headlines. They don't want to do the work, which is basically what you're saying. But I'll add an

00:49:45.440 education component to this. Do you know that 69% of eighth graders in the United States of America

00:49:51.260 cannot pass a basic literacy test? Wow. Now, let me explain what eighth grade literacy test means. It does

00:49:57.840 not mean that they cannot form a word. So they're able to have phonemic awareness, right? They can

00:50:07.180 actually read the words. Eighth grade tests for actual understanding and comprehension. And that

00:50:14.740 is what's missing in the United States. Almost 70% of eighth graders do not understand what they are

00:50:22.920 reading. And so you're taking the next step and you're expecting them to have discernment and the

00:50:29.620 ability to critically think about what they're reading. But when I'm telling you that 70% of them

00:50:34.820 do not comprehend what it is that they're reading. And so they can say the words, but it's not

00:50:40.720 computing in their brain. It should not be a huge surprise to you that when they go on social media

00:50:46.220 or they're seeing an image of a politician holding a baby, they don't have the wheels turning to be able

00:50:52.900 to say, wait a second, something doesn't make sense here, right? And again, I keep talking about how

00:50:58.700 all of this has been laid out for many, many years. The warning signs have started in early childhood

00:51:06.720 when we started dumbing down young Americans. So when they do get to a voting age, when they do get

00:51:13.340 into an age where they need to have discernment and some light bulb should go on, when some parasitic

00:51:19.140 mind virus is making it through the population, they're just, they're tone deaf to it. They don't get it.

00:51:25.500 Amazing. Okay. Personal question next. This is one that I started sort of finishing every show with

00:51:35.680 because in the, one of the last chapters in the happiness book, I talk about how to live a life

00:51:40.940 that allows you to protect yourself from regret because regret is such a difficult emotion. Oh, I

00:51:47.140 should have, I didn't, right? So I want to set it up for you and then ask you what your biggest source

00:51:53.100 of regret and you're still a young woman. So hopefully you have a long life ahead, but so there are two

00:51:58.300 sources of regret. Actually, the, the, the, the psychologist who, who developed this, uh, theory

00:52:03.860 empirically is one of my former, uh, doctoral, uh, professors at Cornell. His name is Thomas Gilovich. So he

00:52:10.700 argued, although he certainly wasn't the first one to, to, to have this insight that there are two sources of

00:52:15.200 regret, Marissa. There's regret due to action and regret due to inaction. So regret due to action. I, I regret that I

00:52:22.140 cheated on my wife and now my marriage is ended regret due to inaction. I regret that I became a

00:52:29.520 pediatrician. I only did it because my mom and dad are pediatricians and I really wanted to be an

00:52:34.620 artist. Now, when you ask people over the longterm, what is their biggest looming regret? Overwhelmingly,

00:52:41.800 their biggest regret is one of inaction road, not taken. So having set that up for you, if I put you on

00:52:48.580 the spot now and say, you know, you've been a very successful, uh, person so far, but undoubtedly you

00:52:53.940 have some regrets, what would be your most looming regret thus far in your life? So when I am listening

00:53:01.860 to you, and obviously I read your book, the first image that comes to my mind is a pillar of salt.

00:53:08.340 Do you know why? So, so I, I, I grew up reading, uh, the Bible, the Torah, and one of the stories in the

00:53:18.200 Torah is about, uh, Sodom and Gomorrah being destroyed by God. And, um, the families who

00:53:26.880 were saved, specifically Lot, Lot's wife, they were all told to not look back. And Lot's wife

00:53:34.240 looked back and she turned into a pillar of salt. And that story resonated me with me for the rest of

00:53:42.420 my life. Cause I always said, don't be Lot's wife. Don't look back. If you look back, you will turn 1.00

00:53:48.680 into a pillar of salt. And by the way, I use that when I was younger and I was dating because I would

00:53:53.580 date a guy and be like, Oh, maybe I shouldn't go back to him. I should not go back to him. I'm like,

00:53:57.560 you can, you can take this example from, from, uh, childhood all the way through adulthood. And so

00:54:04.120 I, I think that that story had such a big impact on me that I, I, I just didn't look back. You know,

00:54:10.640 I, I try to make decisions and be happy with the decisions I make. I believe that my decisions are

00:54:16.920 probably a combination of maybe some divine intervention, maybe my ability to have

00:54:22.020 discernment, but mostly my conviction that looking back and marinating over the past was not good for

00:54:29.260 me. I didn't want to turn into a pillar of salt. And so I, I, in some ways I want to say, I wish I

00:54:33.920 could give you professor an answer, but on the other hand, I'm kind of happy that I don't have an answer

00:54:37.800 for you of any regret, because I feel like if I would look back, I might turn into a pillar of

00:54:42.840 salt or just be really unhappy and miserable and, uh, and live in the past rather than the future.

00:54:48.480 I love your answer in terms of, you know, rooting it within a biblical narrative, but

00:54:53.840 if I not push back, but to maybe add a little bit to what you're saying. So in, in, in the way you

00:55:00.700 framed your, your, your answer, it's looking back. Now, interestingly, there is an element of regret

00:55:07.780 that is anticipatory, meaning looking forward. And the example that I give in the book, I mean,

00:55:13.620 I give a few examples, but, uh, uh, Jeff Bezos uses, I mean, he may not use my language, but used

00:55:20.140 what's called an anticipatory regret framework when he decided whether to leave his high paying secure

00:55:28.340 job and start Amazon. And there, what he argued is if I am sitting when I'm 80 years old on the

00:55:35.820 proverbial, uh, porch, looking back at my life, will I regret not having done it? So in that case,

00:55:43.860 he wasn't looking back, he was looking forward and anticipating. And it turns out that, so, so in a

00:55:50.540 sense, regret is not just in the way you framed it, an absolutely useless emotion. If you use it to

00:55:57.720 anticipate future feelings, it might actually a beneficial one. Does that make sense?

00:56:02.400 It makes sense. Kind of, how do we reach for a moonshot of some sort, I guess.

00:56:07.440 Exactly right. Okay. Last question. And then I'll let you go. Uh, what are some upcoming projects

00:56:13.620 that have not yet been advertised or promoted that you might want to use this platform to promote?

00:56:20.200 Take it away, Marissa.

00:56:21.380 So some of our kids content is now in schools across America. And so we have another state that

00:56:26.700 is partnering with us where we can provide additional content into public schools and private

00:56:32.240 schools. So I'm very excited. We're going to announce that. Also next week, I'm speaking at

00:56:36.840 the March for Kids in Washington, DC. It's a big passion of mine. I think that a society that attacks

00:56:41.780 children, uh, and prevents them from having literacy, as I talked about earlier, uh, is a society in

00:56:47.880 decline. And so I'm going to be speaking at this March for Kids and, um, super excited about that

00:56:52.660 moment and getting together with a lot of great people there. And into the fall, we're releasing

00:56:58.640 a documentary about the increase of crime in crime in the United States of America. And given that

00:57:04.540 you're going to be moving to Michigan, I feel like you might want to watch that, uh, documentary just

00:57:09.480 to protect yourself and, uh, get yourself all ready. Um, so there's always a lot of exciting things

00:57:15.640 happening here at FragerU. And, you know, I'm excited to welcome you into the U S it'll be fun to have

00:57:20.320 you. Uh, not that close, but not too far either. Thank you so much. Okay. Stay on the line so we

00:57:25.640 could say goodbye officially offline. Thank you so much for coming on the show. And of course,

00:57:30.240 you're always welcome whenever you'd like. Cheers. Thank you.

The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - September 10, 2024

My Chat with Marissa Streit, CEO of PragerU (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_710)

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