The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - July 04, 2024


My Chat with Tommy Robinson on His Show SILENCED (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_694)


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2 hours and 49 minutes

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28,935

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In this episode of Silenced, I sit down with author and academic, Gad Saad, to talk about his life growing up in a Middle Eastern country, and how he ended up in Canada. We talk about how he became a Canadian academic and writer, and what it was like growing up as a Jewish-American in post-colonial Lebanon.

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00:00:00.000 When Islam comes into a place, they offer you a few choices. Convert, die, or live, or live as a dimmi, and you pay a jizya, which is a protection kind of poll tax.
00:00:26.000 And there are all sorts of institutionalized mechanisms to remind you of where you stand in the hierarchy of the society.
00:00:35.180 I've got an opportunity to brainwash these next generation of idiots. Let me use the pulpit to do that.
00:00:42.180 And therefore, let me teach them that socialism is great. Let me teach them that whiteness is evil, that patriarchy, men are toxic, and so on.
00:00:51.640 So then what do you expect the future generation of politicians to be? They are called Justin Trudeau.
00:00:57.040 If we're looking at universities, and in fact, if you've got children, if there's a parent here whose children are about to go to university, what advice would you give the kids?
00:01:07.140 Because people, I always say now, parents used to be worried about their kids going to university and getting addicted to drugs or drinking too much alcohol.
00:01:14.320 Now I'd be worried about them coming out of university, chopping off their penis or removing their boobs.
00:01:18.800 Something big's gone on.
00:01:21.640 Information covered up, censorship, corruption. The mainstream media have proven itself to be untrustworthy.
00:01:29.140 I'm here to give a platform for debate, for truth, for open discussion.
00:01:34.380 I'm introducing you to my podcast, Silenced, with Tommy Robinson.
00:01:40.040 Who exactly is Tommy Robinson or Stephen Yaxley-Lennon?
00:01:43.980 And with the English Defence League of the EDL.
00:01:46.240 The problem is with his landing radio.
00:01:50.540 English, far-right, glamour-phobic activists.
00:01:52.620 Since then, there's been organised protests across the country.
00:01:55.260 London, Manchester, Leeds.
00:01:56.800 People in their thousands are marching forward to this.
00:01:59.220 There is no such thing in this country as a Muslim...
00:02:03.000 Free Dami Rutherford.
00:02:07.400 Welcome to my latest edition of my podcast, Silenced.
00:02:09.940 I've travelled to Canada.
00:02:11.220 The first city I've come to is Montreal.
00:02:13.240 Now, to meet a certain gentleman who I've watched for years, I've respected.
00:02:17.560 It's Gad Saad.
00:02:18.620 How are you doing, Tommy?
00:02:19.520 It's a pleasure to finally sit down with you.
00:02:21.360 Likewise.
00:02:22.140 So, I'll just introduce you to my viewers.
00:02:26.240 And I'd like to start at the beginning, Gad.
00:02:27.800 Sure.
00:02:28.120 Just to understand...
00:02:29.560 I know you're an author.
00:02:30.820 You're a professor.
00:02:31.560 But where was you born?
00:02:35.120 So, I was born in Lebanon.
00:02:36.560 Yep.
00:02:37.720 59 years ago now.
00:02:39.080 I can't believe...
00:02:39.520 I still feel like I'm 12 years old.
00:02:41.120 59, you look well, Gad.
00:02:42.480 Thank you.
00:02:44.060 1964.
00:02:45.060 We were part of the last...
00:02:46.940 We, meaning my family, my community.
00:02:48.740 We were part of the last remaining Jews in Lebanon.
00:02:52.400 There was, at one point, a...
00:02:54.240 Not thriving, but a sizable minority of Jews in Lebanon.
00:02:58.440 Most of whom left during the 20th century as it became more difficult to be Jewish in the Middle East.
00:03:04.900 But we were part of the last group that steadfastly refused to leave Lebanon.
00:03:09.900 But then the Civil War broke out in 1975 when I was 11 years old.
00:03:14.400 Well, it broke out when I was 10.
00:03:15.980 And so, we spent the first year of the Civil War in Lebanon.
00:03:19.900 But then it really became untenable to be Jewish in Lebanon.
00:03:24.000 And so, we escaped and came to Montreal.
00:03:25.980 So, people understand the Civil War in 75?
00:03:28.440 75, yeah.
00:03:29.380 Civil War.
00:03:30.000 What was the demographics of Lebanon at that time?
00:03:32.220 So, it would have been majority Christian.
00:03:35.000 Roughly, I think, probably around 60, 70%.
00:03:38.200 So, Lebanon was a Christian country.
00:03:41.200 I mean, it has historically been referred to as the Paris of the Middle East.
00:03:45.060 And as tolerant and progressive.
00:03:47.340 But you always have to contextualize those words in the context of the Middle East, right?
00:03:52.800 In the Middle East, you're tolerated until you're not tolerated, right?
00:03:56.160 And when you're no longer tolerated, you've got to put on some really good running shoes and run fast because they're coming for you.
00:04:02.080 So, you always had a sense that your time was limited.
00:04:06.340 And that's why most of my extended family had left Lebanon.
00:04:09.680 Before the Civil War.
00:04:10.520 Before the Civil War.
00:04:11.020 Okay.
00:04:11.180 And so, by the time the Civil War broke out, as you probably know, most butchery in the world is measured against the brutality of the Lebanese Civil War.
00:04:21.600 Because it was truly orgiastically brutal because, you know, neighbors that have lived next to each other suddenly became mortal enemies.
00:04:30.640 Much of the war was, some argue that it was based on politics, but of course it had a huge religious element.
00:04:37.980 So, the Christians were generally fighting against the Muslims.
00:04:42.280 But even within the Muslims, there were many different factions.
00:04:44.720 The PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and many other militia groups.
00:04:49.080 And there was really no place where the Jews can hide.
00:04:52.920 So, I'll give you a couple of quick examples.
00:04:55.100 So, in Lebanon, you carry what's called in Arabic, Hawi.
00:04:59.560 Hawi is an internal al-yikal.
00:05:02.080 Which has your religion on it.
00:05:02.960 Which has your religion on it.
00:05:04.240 As a matter of fact, it's more important than your height or your weight or your eye color.
00:05:08.560 It's the number, I mean, the prism by which everything is measured in Lebanon is which group do you belong to, which religious group.
00:05:16.440 So, if you were Jewish, it wasn't even, so in Arabic, Jewish is Yahudi.
00:05:22.360 It wasn't even written Yahudi, Jew.
00:05:24.540 It was written Israel, which means Israelite.
00:05:27.120 So, even in the context of the fact that you were Lebanese, with Arabic, it doesn't matter if you were an Israelite.
00:05:32.380 Now, why is that important?
00:05:33.940 Because one of the ways that people got killed early in the war is that they'd be these random roadblocks.
00:05:40.220 These militia roadblocks anywhere.
00:05:42.120 So, you're going to buy bread.
00:05:43.320 There's a militia group that stops you.
00:05:45.440 Show us your Hawi.
00:05:46.520 Show us your papers.
00:05:48.160 Well, there weren't many militia groups that you were going to clear if you had Israelite on it.
00:05:52.660 So, you couldn't really.
00:05:53.680 So, there was many ways that you could die.
00:05:55.300 Snipers could kill you.
00:05:56.280 Bombs could kill you.
00:05:57.260 People could knock on your door.
00:05:58.880 The militia could kill you at the roadblock.
00:06:00.460 And so, if you were Jewish, you had to really lay low and be quiet and hopefully get out.
00:06:06.560 And eventually, during that first year, we were able to escape to Montreal.
00:06:09.980 So, people can understand.
00:06:10.960 So, what kicked off the Civil War?
00:06:12.680 And was it just because, am I right that just all of a sudden roadblocks start getting set up?
00:06:16.760 So, the catalyst, although the cancer is brewing before it all comes out,
00:06:24.260 was I think there was an incident where there was a massacre of a bus that kind of led to the original breaking out of war.
00:06:36.400 But the writing was already on the wall.
00:06:39.160 So, for example, my...
00:06:42.260 So, I have three siblings.
00:06:44.700 The next oldest is 10 years older than me.
00:06:47.420 He's a judo champion.
00:06:48.640 And you'll see in a second why I'm mentioning it.
00:06:50.420 Because people think that it just broke out the war.
00:06:53.240 But all of the nastiness was already being laid in the foundation.
00:06:57.820 So, he was Lebanese champion for many years in a row.
00:07:00.860 Okay.
00:07:01.500 In judo.
00:07:01.960 And then, around 1973, so this is two years before the war broke out,
00:07:07.280 he was visited by some men who explained to him that it was time for him to retire.
00:07:13.480 Because it wasn't...
00:07:14.400 It didn't look good for, you know...
00:07:16.200 A Jew to be represented in Lebanon.
00:07:17.880 And also to be winning the Lebanese championship, especially in a combat sport.
00:07:22.040 That doesn't look good, right?
00:07:23.300 I mean, Jews should be submissive and meek.
00:07:26.940 Know your place, Jew.
00:07:27.860 And so, they basically told him that it was time for him to retire,
00:07:32.280 lest there might be an accident that happens to him.
00:07:35.400 And so, he left and moved to...
00:07:37.220 Were they Christian or were they Muslim?
00:07:38.640 The people that come to see him?
00:07:39.600 Muslim.
00:07:40.180 Muslim, okay.
00:07:41.780 Then, my eldest brother, who lives now in Montreal,
00:07:47.400 in 1974, he was dating, he was courting,
00:07:51.600 about to get married to a Palestinian Christian woman,
00:07:54.700 which didn't go well either in her family,
00:07:58.100 because she was marrying a Jew,
00:07:59.100 and it didn't go well in my family,
00:08:01.280 because she wasn't...
00:08:02.420 He wasn't marrying a Jew.
00:08:03.780 Okay.
00:08:04.020 And so, there was already a lot of conflict.
00:08:05.420 They ended up eloping.
00:08:06.620 Well, he was stopped at one of those roadblocks
00:08:09.140 by PLO, Palestinian Liberation Organization Militiamen.
00:08:12.400 This is before the Civil War.
00:08:13.600 And when they stopped, they said,
00:08:15.940 oh, boy, you've got a really beautiful watch here,
00:08:19.120 meaning, give it up.
00:08:21.140 And he's like, no, this is a watch that my mother gave me,
00:08:24.060 no way.
00:08:24.560 And so, they looked at his wife to be a...
00:08:27.400 I think they weren't married yet, blonde,
00:08:29.580 and said, oh, she's really beautiful,
00:08:32.240 your long wife, right?
00:08:34.640 And then, he ended up moving to Montreal,
00:08:38.120 also before the Civil War.
00:08:39.800 So, yes, we can talk about...
00:08:41.080 But that's just your family.
00:08:42.160 So, just out of your two brothers,
00:08:43.780 that's happened to them.
00:08:44.680 So, what was happening across the board to the community?
00:08:46.820 So, yes, we can point to a specific event
00:08:49.740 that started the war,
00:08:51.560 but all of those undercurrents were taking place.
00:08:54.280 If you want, I can share a couple of...
00:08:55.980 Please do.
00:08:56.400 ...hating stories that I went through.
00:08:58.560 I actually discussed this in the first chapter
00:09:00.440 of The Parasitic Mind, my 2020 book.
00:09:03.780 So, in the first time that, at least,
00:09:06.280 I remember facing Jew hatred in Lebanon,
00:09:09.220 Paris to the Middle East Lebanon,
00:09:12.040 tolerant, progressive Lebanon.
00:09:14.380 It was, in 1970, my...
00:09:16.500 Not mine.
00:09:17.500 President Gamal Haftan Nasser,
00:09:19.500 who was the Egyptian president of Egypt,
00:09:23.500 he was very, very popular across the Middle East
00:09:26.980 and in the Arab world
00:09:27.900 because he was a pan-Arabist,
00:09:29.340 meaning he was trying to unite all of the Arabs
00:09:32.160 into, you know, one cohesive force,
00:09:34.820 of course, of course, to get rid of Israel
00:09:37.040 and the Jew cancer and all this kind of stuff.
00:09:40.080 Well, in 1970, he passed away.
00:09:42.660 And as often happens in the Middle East,
00:09:45.380 people take to the street
00:09:46.540 to do these kind of lamentations
00:09:48.360 and religious incantations
00:09:50.040 and death to this and death to that.
00:09:52.120 And as the crowd was proceeding down my street
00:09:55.340 in Beirut,
00:09:56.520 I was hearing death to Jews, death to Jews.
00:10:00.120 And I turned to my mother.
00:10:01.300 I said, well, why are you screaming death to Jews?
00:10:03.620 And she said, just keep your head down.
00:10:05.360 Be quiet.
00:10:06.520 That was the first time that...
00:10:07.640 How old were you?
00:10:08.260 I'm five.
00:10:09.120 I hadn't yet turned six.
00:10:10.740 So this is 1970.
00:10:12.140 So that was one example.
00:10:13.940 Another story that I tell...
00:10:16.480 Well, I told the Judo story with my brother.
00:10:18.200 By the way, just to complete that story,
00:10:20.320 so my brother leaves to France
00:10:21.940 because he can no longer compete
00:10:24.520 in Beirut, in Lebanon.
00:10:27.520 In 1976, the Montreal Olympics,
00:10:31.840 what happened in Montreal,
00:10:33.940 he ended up representing Lebanon.
00:10:36.880 So the guy who was too Jewish
00:10:39.800 to be the Lebanese champion
00:10:43.260 ends up...
00:10:44.920 We'll forgive the fact that you've got
00:10:46.620 the terminal disease of being Jewish in 1976.
00:10:49.120 To fight in the Olympics.
00:10:50.380 To fight in the Olympics.
00:10:51.680 So in 1976, not too far from here,
00:10:54.160 he actually competed.
00:10:55.320 He lost in the first round,
00:10:57.280 but nonetheless, he represented Lebanon.
00:11:00.220 Here's two more quick stories.
00:11:02.240 Story number two.
00:11:04.380 Around 1974,
00:11:06.500 so this is probably six,
00:11:08.800 eight months before the start of the Civil War,
00:11:11.320 I'm sitting in my class
00:11:12.900 and the teacher says,
00:11:16.220 each of you stand up
00:11:17.460 and tell us what you wish to be
00:11:19.820 when you grow up.
00:11:22.260 Person gets up,
00:11:23.080 I want to be a soccer player,
00:11:24.240 I want to be a policeman,
00:11:25.380 I want to be a nurse.
00:11:26.520 And a guy, a kid gets up,
00:11:28.380 who knows,
00:11:29.020 who's a, quote,
00:11:30.080 friend of mine,
00:11:30.820 who I've grown up with,
00:11:32.040 says,
00:11:32.260 when I grow up,
00:11:32.860 I want to be a Jew killer
00:11:34.360 to the raucous applause
00:11:36.420 and laughter of everybody.
00:11:38.080 And by the way, I have...
00:11:38.940 How many Jews were in your class?
00:11:40.360 And there was one other Jew.
00:11:41.480 And the rest were Muslim?
00:11:43.040 Or Miqsh?
00:11:43.280 No, Miqsh.
00:11:44.020 Miqsh, okay, Christian Muslims.
00:11:45.180 Yeah, Christian Muslims.
00:11:45.780 Was this child who said this Muslim?
00:11:47.880 So I can't confirm,
00:11:49.480 but I'm almost certain
00:11:50.380 based on his name that he is.
00:11:51.740 Okay.
00:11:52.180 So yeah.
00:11:54.000 And how old are you then?
00:11:55.180 So I'm about 10,
00:11:56.740 maybe nine and a half.
00:11:59.060 Story three,
00:12:00.360 which I'll tell the story
00:12:01.900 as it happened in Lebanon
00:12:03.080 and then I'll close the loop
00:12:04.540 as to what happened
00:12:05.420 just here in Montreal
00:12:06.780 after October 7th.
00:12:08.320 Okay.
00:12:08.540 So the day that we left Lebanon,
00:12:13.280 and by the way,
00:12:14.020 we were accosted to the airport
00:12:17.720 by Palestinian militia
00:12:20.420 whom my parents had paid money to
00:12:23.640 to get us to the airport
00:12:25.540 because there was no way
00:12:28.080 that you could clear the roadblocks
00:12:29.880 that were around
00:12:31.580 the Beirut International Airport
00:12:33.960 that were controlled by the PLO
00:12:35.540 if whoever was bringing you
00:12:37.820 was not sympathetic.
00:12:39.120 If they don't tell you,
00:12:39.880 you can go through.
00:12:40.840 Yeah.
00:12:41.460 Now, of course,
00:12:42.240 as you're being taken
00:12:44.240 by these guys
00:12:44.940 that are all wearing
00:12:46.320 all the stuff that you see,
00:12:48.140 the ISIS.
00:12:48.900 The Jihadists.
00:12:50.400 I grew up in that world
00:12:51.920 and so those guys come over
00:12:53.440 to our house
00:12:54.520 to take us.
00:12:55.280 Now, you don't know
00:12:56.480 if when they're taking you,
00:12:57.980 they're going to take you
00:12:59.840 and put a bullet in your head.
00:13:01.860 As a matter of fact,
00:13:02.280 I remember...
00:13:03.360 So your mom and dad
00:13:03.820 are taking a massive risk
00:13:04.780 by doing that as well.
00:13:05.520 Exactly.
00:13:05.980 But that's the only way out.
00:13:07.120 Otherwise,
00:13:07.600 you roll the dice,
00:13:09.880 you're either going
00:13:10.440 to get a bullet in your head
00:13:11.400 or they're actually going
00:13:12.420 to honor their thing
00:13:13.820 and luckily they did honor it.
00:13:16.340 But anyways,
00:13:16.720 I remember when the guys
00:13:17.640 came over to our house,
00:13:19.640 the main guy
00:13:21.900 that looked like the leader
00:13:23.400 was actually very sweet to me
00:13:25.680 and he saw that I was looking
00:13:26.740 at the machine gun.
00:13:28.980 And he said,
00:13:30.060 oh, do you want to hold it?
00:13:31.180 And I remember sort of
00:13:32.580 holding the machine gun
00:13:34.280 as a little boy.
00:13:35.720 How old are you at this point?
00:13:37.180 I just turned 11.
00:13:38.340 11, okay.
00:13:39.020 Yeah, I just turned 11.
00:13:40.020 So we left end of October
00:13:41.440 and my birthday is in middle October,
00:13:43.960 so I just turned 11.
00:13:47.180 So then, by the way,
00:13:48.600 as we're driving to the airport,
00:13:51.600 I'm about to tell a story
00:13:53.420 of what happened when we left,
00:13:55.100 we flew out of Lebanon.
00:13:56.120 But I have no memory
00:13:59.500 from the time
00:14:00.280 that they picked us up
00:14:01.460 to when we flew out.
00:14:04.420 And once I asked my parents,
00:14:06.500 how come I don't recall
00:14:07.940 that thing?
00:14:09.900 And so they told me,
00:14:11.260 and I truly have no memory of it,
00:14:13.180 that as we were going through
00:14:14.960 different neighborhoods
00:14:16.620 in Beirut
00:14:17.560 to get to the Beirut
00:14:18.600 Latinasha airport,
00:14:20.040 we were taking fire
00:14:21.740 from different militia
00:14:25.120 militia
00:14:25.800 who were not sympathetic
00:14:27.580 to the PLO.
00:14:29.200 And we were,
00:14:30.060 they had like our suitcases
00:14:31.460 on top of us
00:14:32.340 in the car
00:14:33.040 and we were all,
00:14:34.140 so it was so traumatic.
00:14:35.600 You might have fainted.
00:14:36.620 That I repressed it.
00:14:38.160 I don't,
00:14:38.860 so I have no recollection of that.
00:14:40.360 The only recollection I have
00:14:41.660 is them telling me
00:14:42.600 that that happened.
00:14:43.860 So anyway,
00:14:44.320 so we get to the airport,
00:14:46.480 we take the flight out
00:14:47.780 and at one point
00:14:48.980 the captain says
00:14:51.360 we are now out
00:14:52.360 of Lebanese airspace.
00:14:53.860 And so my mother
00:14:55.800 takes out,
00:14:57.220 in the book I say
00:14:58.280 it could have been
00:14:58.940 a Star of David
00:14:59.520 or it could have been
00:15:00.100 a Chai,
00:15:00.560 which is the Hebrew sign
00:15:01.760 of life.
00:15:03.860 But I'm almost certain
00:15:04.960 it was a Star of David.
00:15:06.680 She puts it around my neck
00:15:07.980 and says,
00:15:08.840 now you can wear this proudly
00:15:10.600 and not hide your identity.
00:15:12.720 So that gives you a sense
00:15:14.620 of what Paris
00:15:15.440 in the Middle East was,
00:15:16.740 that even though
00:15:17.520 you were tolerated,
00:15:18.700 don't advertise
00:15:19.420 that you're Jewish
00:15:20.300 because you never know
00:15:21.340 who's going to come after you.
00:15:22.540 Now let's fast forward
00:15:24.720 to around,
00:15:25.640 I think it was October 21st.
00:15:27.660 You could probably
00:15:28.260 go and check
00:15:28.800 because the tweet
00:15:29.820 is still up.
00:15:30.720 Okay.
00:15:31.140 So I was picked up,
00:15:34.140 I was working
00:15:34.740 on a laptop
00:15:35.420 at a cafe
00:15:36.440 not far from where
00:15:38.040 you and I
00:15:38.820 met yesterday.
00:15:39.900 and my wife
00:15:42.000 picks me up
00:15:42.600 and she's with
00:15:43.140 one of our children
00:15:44.480 who had just played
00:15:45.260 a soccer match
00:15:46.160 in the east end
00:15:48.160 of Montreal.
00:15:49.100 And as I walked
00:15:50.000 into the car,
00:15:51.180 the first thing he says,
00:15:53.000 Daddy,
00:15:53.400 if you were wearing
00:15:54.560 a Star of David
00:15:55.360 where I just played soccer,
00:15:56.940 you'd be dead.
00:15:58.640 So in 19,
00:15:59.800 and by the way,
00:16:00.980 the poetry of life
00:16:02.400 is that he uttered
00:16:03.580 those words
00:16:04.240 at almost
00:16:05.260 the identical age
00:16:06.800 that I was
00:16:07.720 in 1975.
00:16:10.280 So in 1975,
00:16:11.580 my wife,
00:16:12.240 my mother
00:16:13.060 puts a Star of David
00:16:14.260 around me
00:16:14.860 and says,
00:16:15.620 you can now
00:16:16.120 wear this proudly.
00:16:17.840 45 years later,
00:16:20.020 my son says,
00:16:21.080 if you wore
00:16:21.740 that Star of David,
00:16:22.720 you'd be dead
00:16:23.280 in Montreal,
00:16:24.300 Canada
00:16:24.640 in the 21st century.
00:16:26.880 So that's where
00:16:27.620 it's gone.
00:16:28.440 That's where it's gone.
00:16:29.880 When you left,
00:16:30.640 when you left there,
00:16:31.660 when you left Lebanon,
00:16:33.180 there was your mum,
00:16:33.980 you,
00:16:34.260 who else?
00:16:35.080 There was my mum,
00:16:36.460 me,
00:16:36.800 my sister
00:16:37.960 had returned,
00:16:39.340 so my two brothers
00:16:40.500 were out.
00:16:40.920 Already gone?
00:16:41.820 One brother
00:16:42.380 was already
00:16:42.940 in Montreal,
00:16:44.480 the one who,
00:16:46.720 with the watch
00:16:47.560 and the blonde,
00:16:49.040 the other one
00:16:51.120 had lived in France
00:16:52.480 and now was moving
00:16:53.640 to join us
00:16:54.720 in Montreal.
00:16:56.160 My sister
00:16:57.040 had also
00:16:57.960 been sent out
00:16:59.120 of Lebanon
00:16:59.640 before the Civil War
00:17:00.920 because it's no place
00:17:02.080 for a Jewish girl
00:17:02.900 to grow up.
00:17:04.500 She had come
00:17:04.980 to Montreal
00:17:05.520 to study
00:17:06.080 at university
00:17:06.740 but had gone
00:17:08.060 back
00:17:08.580 to visit
00:17:09.620 Beirut
00:17:11.600 and then got
00:17:12.540 caught
00:17:12.880 in the Lebanese
00:17:13.520 Civil War.
00:17:14.220 So as we left
00:17:15.660 it was me,
00:17:16.900 my mother,
00:17:17.640 my father
00:17:18.200 and if I remember
00:17:19.520 correctly,
00:17:19.860 my sister.
00:17:20.980 Your mother and father,
00:17:21.760 were they born in Lebanon?
00:17:22.920 They were born in Lebanon.
00:17:23.860 So understanding,
00:17:24.800 we can see how it's gone
00:17:25.680 45 years later
00:17:26.680 to Canada,
00:17:28.000 to Canada,
00:17:28.600 Montreal,
00:17:29.060 but when your mum
00:17:30.040 had grown up in Lebanon,
00:17:31.360 was it safe
00:17:32.180 to be Jewish?
00:17:33.720 So it depends
00:17:34.200 what safe is,
00:17:35.220 right?
00:17:35.620 Is it safe
00:17:37.140 in the sense
00:17:37.860 that there isn't
00:17:39.000 a daily,
00:17:39.740 you know,
00:17:40.860 pogrom
00:17:41.360 and genocide
00:17:41.900 of Jews?
00:17:42.760 Yes.
00:17:43.420 Can people find out
00:17:44.620 that you're Jewish?
00:17:45.460 Of course,
00:17:46.000 because they just have
00:17:46.620 to go to the synagogue
00:17:47.340 on Saturday mornings
00:17:48.400 and they would see
00:17:49.260 who's there.
00:17:49.680 But you,
00:17:51.180 it's,
00:17:51.840 it's quote safe,
00:17:53.900 right?
00:17:54.220 It's,
00:17:54.960 you know,
00:17:55.720 be quiet.
00:17:57.040 Yeah.
00:17:57.420 Don't ever,
00:17:58.480 certainly don't ever
00:17:59.220 show allegiance
00:18:00.020 to Israel.
00:18:00.880 Don't ever speak
00:18:02.040 about politics.
00:18:03.140 Don't ever criticize
00:18:04.100 the government.
00:18:05.340 Know your place,
00:18:06.640 Jew,
00:18:07.080 right?
00:18:07.540 So you are,
00:18:08.640 maybe your followers
00:18:09.920 know this,
00:18:10.940 you know the concept
00:18:11.960 of a dimmi.
00:18:13.120 Yep.
00:18:14.040 Explain to the people
00:18:15.060 that don't.
00:18:15.580 Right.
00:18:16.020 I understand.
00:18:17.000 So in Islamic doctrine,
00:18:19.680 the dimmi
00:18:20.380 is not even
00:18:21.200 a second class citizen.
00:18:22.460 It's a third class citizen,
00:18:23.860 a fourth class citizen.
00:18:24.860 When Islam comes
00:18:25.720 into a place,
00:18:27.640 they offer you
00:18:28.880 a few choices.
00:18:30.800 Convert,
00:18:32.180 die,
00:18:32.880 or live,
00:18:34.220 or live as a dimmi
00:18:35.580 and you pay a jizya,
00:18:37.200 which is a protection
00:18:38.220 kind of poll tax.
00:18:40.020 And there are
00:18:41.140 all sorts of
00:18:42.220 institutionalized
00:18:43.540 mechanisms
00:18:44.240 to remind you
00:18:45.700 of where you stand
00:18:47.260 in the hierarchy
00:18:47.980 of the society.
00:18:48.780 You're a dimmi,
00:18:50.120 right?
00:18:50.960 They refer to you
00:18:51.860 as a kafir,
00:18:53.560 a kufar,
00:18:54.140 an unbeliever.
00:18:55.000 It's a kind of
00:18:55.440 a dirty word,
00:18:56.220 right?
00:18:56.780 Now that doesn't mean
00:18:57.600 that on a daily basis
00:18:58.900 people were spitting
00:19:00.240 at you.
00:19:00.940 My parents were
00:19:01.720 well entrenched
00:19:02.420 in Lebanese society.
00:19:03.480 They had tons
00:19:04.080 of friends
00:19:05.100 who were Muslim
00:19:05.820 and Christian.
00:19:06.680 So I don't want
00:19:07.520 to make it sound
00:19:08.160 as though every day
00:19:09.180 you had tomatoes
00:19:10.760 thrown at you,
00:19:11.700 but you knew
00:19:12.560 that your time
00:19:13.420 was numbered.
00:19:14.820 That's why my
00:19:15.380 extended family
00:19:16.160 had all left.
00:19:16.960 That's why all
00:19:17.540 of my siblings
00:19:18.200 were much older
00:19:19.000 than me.
00:19:19.780 My parents
00:19:20.280 were clear
00:19:20.820 that their future
00:19:21.720 could not be
00:19:22.740 in Lebanon.
00:19:23.400 And that was
00:19:23.980 before the civil war
00:19:25.120 broke out,
00:19:25.580 right?
00:19:25.860 So yes,
00:19:28.800 it was dangerous
00:19:29.840 in that
00:19:30.560 I think my parents
00:19:33.000 were smart enough
00:19:34.080 to realize
00:19:34.780 that we had
00:19:36.140 no long-term
00:19:36.900 future there.
00:19:38.080 But by the way,
00:19:39.260 it's so hard
00:19:40.100 to extricate yourself
00:19:41.620 from your background
00:19:42.700 in that even
00:19:43.900 when we moved
00:19:44.580 to Montreal
00:19:45.220 in the middle
00:19:46.420 of the most
00:19:46.960 brutal civil war,
00:19:48.400 my parents
00:19:49.340 then kept
00:19:50.180 returning to
00:19:51.360 Lebanon.
00:19:52.660 And, you know,
00:19:53.400 many people would
00:19:54.180 say, well,
00:19:54.520 how could you
00:19:56.800 go back to
00:19:57.460 support?
00:19:58.040 How could you
00:19:58.560 if you've emigrated,
00:19:59.920 you've left,
00:20:00.680 you know,
00:20:00.960 by the skin
00:20:01.480 of your teeth?
00:20:02.400 Well, it's because
00:20:03.340 they came here.
00:20:04.500 They're already
00:20:05.280 in their 40s.
00:20:07.280 They're,
00:20:08.080 they hate it here.
00:20:09.200 It's cold here.
00:20:10.420 Did they ever bring
00:20:10.960 you back as
00:20:11.540 children to?
00:20:12.120 I never went back.
00:20:13.080 Okay, so they've
00:20:13.860 made a decision
00:20:14.380 to go back.
00:20:14.780 As a matter of fact,
00:20:15.860 from when we
00:20:16.920 emigrated at the
00:20:18.500 end of 1975
00:20:19.260 till 1980,
00:20:21.620 a large chunk
00:20:23.040 of that time
00:20:24.220 period,
00:20:25.080 I was only
00:20:25.780 growing up
00:20:26.440 with the
00:20:27.020 Judo brother
00:20:27.660 because the
00:20:29.060 other brother
00:20:29.820 was married.
00:20:31.300 The other,
00:20:32.160 the sister,
00:20:33.320 had then
00:20:34.500 gotten also
00:20:35.400 married.
00:20:36.300 So in our
00:20:36.980 first home
00:20:38.100 in Montreal,
00:20:39.120 it was just
00:20:39.800 me and the
00:20:40.900 Judo player
00:20:41.400 who was 10
00:20:41.900 years older than
00:20:42.400 me.
00:20:42.740 He's busy.
00:20:43.340 He's going to
00:20:43.740 university.
00:20:44.360 He's still
00:20:44.760 training for
00:20:45.340 Judo.
00:20:45.980 So I was
00:20:46.660 basically raised
00:20:47.740 by the wolves,
00:20:48.820 okay,
00:20:49.040 by the street.
00:20:50.440 So thank God
00:20:51.280 I came out okay.
00:20:53.220 On one of their
00:20:54.340 return trips to
00:20:55.360 Lebanon in
00:20:56.360 1980,
00:20:57.760 my parents were
00:20:58.540 kidnapped by
00:20:59.340 Fatah.
00:21:00.740 And it was
00:21:02.380 that event
00:21:03.320 that then resulted
00:21:04.600 in them never
00:21:05.300 returning.
00:21:05.840 So they were
00:21:06.180 kidnapped.
00:21:06.740 Some really bad
00:21:07.620 things happened to
00:21:08.360 them.
00:21:08.560 also bad
00:21:09.880 things.
00:21:10.220 Do you want
00:21:10.320 me to ask?
00:21:11.100 I mean,
00:21:11.980 tortured.
00:21:14.000 My father had
00:21:15.040 a massive
00:21:16.480 beating with
00:21:17.600 a rifle here
00:21:18.800 that caused
00:21:19.760 a temporary
00:21:22.380 paralysis.
00:21:24.860 You know,
00:21:25.100 when you get a
00:21:25.580 stroke.
00:21:26.120 Yeah,
00:21:26.340 yeah.
00:21:26.440 So he had
00:21:28.680 that for a
00:21:29.200 while.
00:21:30.360 My mother,
00:21:31.660 so I'm not
00:21:33.000 even sure if
00:21:33.520 I've ever
00:21:33.840 mentioned this
00:21:34.440 publicly,
00:21:35.140 so you might
00:21:35.780 be getting
00:21:36.140 an exclusive
00:21:36.660 here.
00:21:37.160 Was anything
00:21:37.480 sexual?
00:21:38.340 Right.
00:21:38.840 So I was
00:21:39.800 15 at the
00:21:40.540 time,
00:21:41.360 and I
00:21:41.580 remember that
00:21:42.320 the...
00:21:42.560 You're here
00:21:42.860 on your
00:21:43.080 own.
00:21:44.140 Your mom
00:21:44.400 and dad
00:21:44.600 are in...
00:21:45.220 I'm here
00:21:45.940 with my
00:21:46.240 brother.
00:21:46.500 But your
00:21:47.060 mom and
00:21:47.300 dad are out
00:21:47.620 there,
00:21:47.940 and how
00:21:48.280 did you
00:21:48.460 find out
00:21:48.740 they've
00:21:48.860 been
00:21:48.960 kidnapped?
00:21:49.180 Well,
00:21:49.740 that's...
00:21:50.020 Actually,
00:21:50.620 I talk about
00:21:51.320 this in the
00:21:51.780 parasitic mind.
00:21:53.960 A friend of
00:21:54.820 mine,
00:21:55.180 whom we call
00:21:55.960 my cousin,
00:21:56.880 but he's not
00:21:57.560 a biological
00:21:58.140 cousin,
00:21:58.700 but my
00:21:59.040 parents and
00:21:59.560 his parents
00:22:00.160 were very
00:22:01.100 close friends,
00:22:02.120 he went to
00:22:02.640 the same
00:22:02.980 high school as
00:22:03.660 me.
00:22:03.840 Now,
00:22:04.800 he had
00:22:05.240 found out
00:22:06.040 through the
00:22:07.540 Lebanese
00:22:08.080 network that
00:22:09.300 my parents
00:22:09.860 had been
00:22:10.260 kidnapped,
00:22:10.880 but my
00:22:11.440 siblings had
00:22:12.500 kept that
00:22:13.120 hidden from
00:22:13.660 me.
00:22:13.680 From you,
00:22:14.240 to stop you
00:22:14.640 worrying.
00:22:15.120 Right.
00:22:15.660 And so he
00:22:16.920 would see me
00:22:17.720 at school
00:22:18.480 laughing and
00:22:19.900 being...
00:22:20.200 And thinking
00:22:20.580 how...
00:22:21.300 this guy
00:22:23.100 is pretty
00:22:23.740 cold,
00:22:24.300 he's pretty
00:22:24.720 callous to
00:22:25.720 be so
00:22:26.920 laissez-faire
00:22:28.180 about his
00:22:29.660 parents.
00:22:30.060 I didn't
00:22:30.500 know that
00:22:30.920 my parents
00:22:31.380 were kidnapped.
00:22:32.200 I knew
00:22:32.520 that there
00:22:32.800 was a lot
00:22:33.260 of hectic
00:22:34.020 stuff happening
00:22:34.720 in the house,
00:22:35.200 and there was
00:22:35.420 a lot of
00:22:35.820 stress because
00:22:36.460 my siblings
00:22:37.380 were coming,
00:22:37.980 they were
00:22:38.140 full,
00:22:38.540 and they
00:22:38.860 told me
00:22:39.340 some BS
00:22:39.740 story about,
00:22:40.500 oh,
00:22:40.580 they lost
00:22:40.980 money,
00:22:41.460 we're trying
00:22:41.800 to whatever,
00:22:42.560 just to not
00:22:43.860 get me
00:22:44.220 worried.
00:22:45.340 I only
00:22:45.780 found out
00:22:46.420 the full
00:22:47.180 story when
00:22:48.140 my parents
00:22:48.800 were rescued
00:22:50.020 and then they
00:22:50.780 came back
00:22:51.480 to Montreal.
00:22:51.940 They were,
00:22:52.220 I think,
00:22:52.440 in Camperville
00:22:52.860 for eight
00:22:53.460 days in
00:22:53.860 total.
00:22:54.600 Now,
00:22:55.340 regarding the
00:22:55.940 sexual stuff,
00:22:57.300 when I did
00:22:57.900 find out the
00:22:58.560 story,
00:22:59.140 and I was
00:22:59.640 15 years
00:23:00.300 old,
00:23:00.720 as you would
00:23:01.300 expect from
00:23:02.240 an evolutionary
00:23:02.980 perspective,
00:23:03.760 which we might
00:23:04.240 end up talking
00:23:04.760 about,
00:23:05.400 my first
00:23:06.600 concern as a
00:23:07.640 male was
00:23:08.880 that they do
00:23:09.800 anything to
00:23:10.460 my mother.
00:23:11.420 And I
00:23:11.800 remember I
00:23:13.060 asked her
00:23:14.240 that.
00:23:15.060 She kind
00:23:15.540 of hesitated
00:23:17.480 and then just
00:23:18.740 said,
00:23:19.980 she said,
00:23:20.500 no,
00:23:21.260 but I've
00:23:21.620 never known
00:23:22.320 if it was
00:23:23.420 a lie or
00:23:24.440 not.
00:23:25.620 But she
00:23:26.000 said that
00:23:26.500 they threatened
00:23:27.140 her,
00:23:27.560 that they
00:23:27.860 would do
00:23:28.540 certain things
00:23:29.280 to threaten
00:23:29.780 that the
00:23:30.260 gang rape
00:23:30.720 was coming.
00:23:32.000 I won't
00:23:32.320 get into
00:23:32.620 the details.
00:23:34.360 But I've
00:23:34.840 never,
00:23:35.360 I've always
00:23:35.980 wondered whether
00:23:36.600 she lied to
00:23:37.440 me or didn't
00:23:38.200 lie to me.
00:23:38.860 So I don't
00:23:39.560 know,
00:23:39.740 and I never
00:23:40.200 brought it up
00:23:40.780 again.
00:23:41.500 But I
00:23:41.820 remember as
00:23:42.520 a 15-year-old,
00:23:43.660 I thought that
00:23:44.160 if she says
00:23:44.980 that it's yes,
00:23:46.440 I would spend
00:23:47.200 the rest of my
00:23:47.840 life hunting down
00:23:49.560 those guys.
00:23:50.940 But she
00:23:51.300 told me
00:23:51.600 no.
00:23:53.440 So she
00:23:54.580 was kidnapped
00:23:54.880 by Fatah.
00:23:56.060 Fatah.
00:23:57.520 And you've
00:23:58.560 talked about
00:23:58.880 the PLO.
00:23:59.460 To people
00:23:59.740 who don't
00:23:59.980 know who
00:24:00.220 the PLO
00:24:00.660 are,
00:24:00.860 who are
00:24:01.020 the PLO?
00:24:01.440 So the
00:24:01.760 PLO is the
00:24:02.560 Palestinian
00:24:02.900 Liberation
00:24:03.400 Organization.
00:24:04.720 Their head
00:24:05.980 was Yasser
00:24:07.280 Arafat,
00:24:09.100 who,
00:24:10.700 so the
00:24:11.140 background
00:24:11.900 to some
00:24:12.360 of this
00:24:12.640 story of
00:24:13.720 the kidnapping,
00:24:14.400 so my
00:24:16.060 mother's
00:24:16.700 best,
00:24:17.420 and I'll
00:24:17.660 come back
00:24:18.020 to the PLO
00:24:18.860 in a second,
00:24:19.720 my mother's
00:24:20.680 best friend
00:24:21.640 was a
00:24:23.080 Syrian woman,
00:24:24.540 a Muslim
00:24:24.920 woman.
00:24:25.680 Her name
00:24:26.060 was Ehsan.
00:24:27.660 She was
00:24:28.520 the personal
00:24:29.240 dresser of
00:24:30.660 Hafiz al-Assad.
00:24:31.940 Hafiz al-Assad
00:24:32.780 was the
00:24:33.520 president of
00:24:34.740 Syria.
00:24:35.560 His son
00:24:36.040 now,
00:24:36.780 Bashar al-Assad,
00:24:37.920 is the
00:24:38.280 current president.
00:24:40.160 The way it
00:24:40.940 works in
00:24:41.360 Lebanon,
00:24:42.160 everything is
00:24:42.760 through connections,
00:24:43.480 right?
00:24:43.960 If you don't
00:24:44.700 have connections,
00:24:46.120 you're dead.
00:24:47.460 So what my
00:24:49.020 siblings were
00:24:50.280 doing through
00:24:51.900 all their
00:24:52.360 networks is
00:24:53.080 trying to
00:24:53.720 work the
00:24:54.180 network to
00:24:54.940 find out
00:24:55.560 where mom
00:24:56.720 and dad
00:24:57.160 are.
00:24:58.840 So through
00:24:59.620 Ehsan,
00:25:00.800 she
00:25:01.160 reached,
00:25:02.720 she speaks
00:25:03.740 to Hafiz al-Assad,
00:25:05.460 who then,
00:25:06.660 the most
00:25:07.000 likely kidnappers
00:25:08.520 would have
00:25:08.920 probably been
00:25:09.640 some fraction
00:25:10.660 of Palestinian
00:25:11.920 militia.
00:25:12.480 So then
00:25:13.500 Yasser Arafat
00:25:16.280 tells her,
00:25:18.560 well,
00:25:19.240 I don't
00:25:19.780 know if
00:25:20.200 they're with
00:25:20.520 one of
00:25:20.800 our groups,
00:25:21.300 I can
00:25:21.620 find out,
00:25:22.880 but hopefully
00:25:23.700 they're not
00:25:24.300 with Abu
00:25:25.020 Nidal's
00:25:25.640 group,
00:25:26.200 because at
00:25:26.560 that time
00:25:26.920 there was
00:25:27.220 a power
00:25:27.980 struggle
00:25:28.380 between
00:25:28.740 Abu
00:25:28.980 Nidal,
00:25:29.380 who was
00:25:29.620 leading
00:25:29.960 Fatah,
00:25:31.460 and Yasser Arafat,
00:25:33.200 and they
00:25:33.680 were with
00:25:34.320 that group.
00:25:35.960 Now,
00:25:37.640 during the
00:25:38.420 captivity,
00:25:39.040 one of the
00:25:39.420 things that
00:25:39.800 they were,
00:25:40.420 well,
00:25:40.620 the main
00:25:41.060 thing that
00:25:41.340 they were
00:25:41.520 trying to
00:25:41.840 get them
00:25:42.080 to do,
00:25:43.560 torturing
00:25:44.260 them and
00:25:44.500 so on,
00:25:45.080 is to
00:25:45.440 get them
00:25:45.880 to sign
00:25:46.680 that they
00:25:47.140 are Israeli
00:25:48.140 spies.
00:25:48.960 Okay,
00:25:49.320 yeah.
00:25:49.660 Okay,
00:25:49.920 and luckily,
00:25:52.860 they're not
00:25:53.460 Israeli spies,
00:25:54.340 but they
00:25:55.420 never said,
00:25:56.080 yeah,
00:25:56.240 okay,
00:25:56.540 fine,
00:25:56.800 we'll sign
00:25:57.180 it,
00:25:57.860 because then
00:25:58.680 that would
00:25:59.060 have given
00:25:59.780 them the,
00:26:00.600 you know,
00:26:01.380 the legal,
00:26:01.980 I mean,
00:26:02.160 not that it's
00:26:02.500 anything legal,
00:26:03.240 justifications,
00:26:03.580 yeah,
00:26:03.800 to just execute
00:26:04.640 them,
00:26:05.300 and it
00:26:05.680 turns out,
00:26:06.760 and I don't
00:26:07.280 think I've
00:26:07.580 ever,
00:26:07.760 you're getting
00:26:08.740 a lot of
00:26:09.100 scoops today,
00:26:09.840 so one
00:26:12.820 story that I
00:26:13.480 had heard
00:26:13.860 after the
00:26:14.400 fact was
00:26:15.560 that,
00:26:16.580 so as you
00:26:17.280 know,
00:26:17.480 in the
00:26:17.660 seven deadly
00:26:18.200 sins,
00:26:18.800 one of the
00:26:19.540 deadly sins
00:26:20.100 is greed,
00:26:21.500 and so this
00:26:22.380 one story I
00:26:23.240 heard,
00:26:23.560 I don't know
00:26:24.360 if it's true
00:26:24.800 or not,
00:26:25.120 but I think
00:26:26.200 it's pretty
00:26:26.500 authenticated,
00:26:27.200 is that,
00:26:28.080 so my dad
00:26:29.000 had a store,
00:26:30.260 my mother
00:26:30.800 had a store,
00:26:31.660 and my dad
00:26:32.140 had a store
00:26:32.660 in separate
00:26:33.060 areas,
00:26:33.400 my mother
00:26:33.700 was closer
00:26:34.160 to the Jewish
00:26:35.020 quarter,
00:26:35.340 my dad
00:26:36.100 was in
00:26:36.380 another area
00:26:37.040 called
00:26:37.320 Hamana,
00:26:38.320 and the
00:26:39.920 owner of
00:26:40.620 that building
00:26:41.200 wanted my
00:26:42.020 dad to
00:26:42.900 sell him
00:26:43.560 off the,
00:26:44.960 his store,
00:26:46.040 which hadn't
00:26:46.320 yet been
00:26:46.700 liquidated,
00:26:48.000 my parents
00:26:48.400 had kept
00:26:48.840 it,
00:26:49.040 that's why
00:26:49.280 they kept
00:26:49.600 going back
00:26:50.180 to Lebanon
00:26:50.540 even.
00:26:50.880 And they
00:26:51.120 kept the
00:26:51.360 business
00:26:51.600 even when
00:26:51.900 they came
00:26:52.100 in.
00:26:52.340 Exactly.
00:26:53.280 And so
00:26:53.880 apparently
00:26:54.880 he concocted
00:26:57.100 this whole
00:26:58.000 kidnapping
00:26:59.960 to get the
00:27:00.360 business,
00:27:00.800 to then get
00:27:01.580 the business.
00:27:02.480 Piracy.
00:27:03.140 Yeah,
00:27:03.460 so that's
00:27:04.000 what I had
00:27:04.680 heard.
00:27:04.880 Okay.
00:27:06.080 And when
00:27:06.400 you said
00:27:06.840 your parents
00:27:07.120 were rescued,
00:27:07.620 who rescued
00:27:08.040 them?
00:27:08.760 Well,
00:27:09.340 rescued just
00:27:10.020 means that
00:27:10.580 there was
00:27:11.200 a money exchange
00:27:13.100 and then,
00:27:14.320 okay,
00:27:15.060 you can have
00:27:15.620 them back.
00:27:16.500 Now,
00:27:17.540 the reality
00:27:18.180 is,
00:27:18.520 I don't know
00:27:18.860 if you can
00:27:19.180 appreciate,
00:27:19.780 in Lebanon,
00:27:20.960 you know,
00:27:21.380 at the time,
00:27:22.340 your life
00:27:22.960 wasn't worth
00:27:23.700 the price
00:27:24.400 of the bullet
00:27:24.900 that you
00:27:25.280 put in your
00:27:25.860 head.
00:27:26.380 So the fact
00:27:27.100 that they
00:27:27.400 even survived
00:27:28.580 for that
00:27:29.000 many days,
00:27:30.440 you know,
00:27:30.740 usually when
00:27:31.480 you're kidnapped,
00:27:32.500 you're gone,
00:27:33.600 you're never
00:27:33.980 seen again.
00:27:34.880 And actually,
00:27:36.900 what led to
00:27:39.180 the original
00:27:40.040 thing of my
00:27:40.760 dad being
00:27:41.180 beaten is
00:27:41.720 that as
00:27:42.180 they came
00:27:42.980 to their
00:27:44.400 apartment,
00:27:45.800 there were
00:27:46.860 militia guys
00:27:47.920 waiting for them,
00:27:49.460 saying,
00:27:49.880 come with us.
00:27:50.520 And my father
00:27:51.440 realized that
00:27:53.480 that meant
00:27:53.980 that they were
00:27:54.620 about to be
00:27:55.480 executed.
00:27:55.960 so he starts
00:27:57.100 pleading with
00:27:57.720 them and
00:27:58.020 he's holding
00:27:58.720 on to the
00:27:59.460 railing of
00:28:00.460 the stairs
00:28:02.220 of the
00:28:02.880 apartment
00:28:03.200 building.
00:28:04.160 And to
00:28:04.380 try to get
00:28:05.000 him to,
00:28:05.640 you know,
00:28:06.980 let go,
00:28:08.060 they started
00:28:08.680 smashing him.
00:28:10.240 So it was
00:28:11.260 truly miraculous
00:28:12.100 that they,
00:28:13.140 you know,
00:28:13.380 ever came out.
00:28:14.040 So after
00:28:15.000 that,
00:28:15.420 no one's
00:28:15.800 gone back.
00:28:16.520 I've been
00:28:16.920 invited many,
00:28:17.780 many times
00:28:18.260 once,
00:28:19.040 you know,
00:28:19.260 I became
00:28:19.620 a known
00:28:20.400 person.
00:28:21.680 Oh,
00:28:22.260 come back,
00:28:23.040 you'll be in
00:28:23.600 the prime
00:28:24.560 minister's
00:28:25.160 thing,
00:28:25.380 you'll be
00:28:25.640 protected,
00:28:26.500 we love
00:28:27.280 you,
00:28:27.640 blah,
00:28:27.820 blah.
00:28:27.900 And I said,
00:28:28.480 yeah,
00:28:28.700 I'm never
00:28:29.020 taking that
00:28:29.840 risk.
00:28:30.780 What was the
00:28:31.020 results of
00:28:31.420 the civil
00:28:31.720 war?
00:28:33.300 Nothing,
00:28:33.840 really.
00:28:34.640 I mean,
00:28:35.120 who controls
00:28:35.620 it now?
00:28:36.280 Lebanon?
00:28:36.800 Well,
00:28:37.180 so Lebanon,
00:28:38.100 the demographic
00:28:38.840 reality is that
00:28:40.060 it's completely
00:28:40.580 flipped.
00:28:41.180 Now it is a
00:28:42.080 majority Islamic
00:28:43.300 country.
00:28:44.540 So the exact
00:28:45.340 numbers,
00:28:45.700 I'm not sure,
00:28:46.380 but it's probably
00:28:47.000 now 65,
00:28:48.180 70% Islamic.
00:28:50.200 Of course,
00:28:50.700 Hezbollah is
00:28:51.520 in control in
00:28:52.340 most areas.
00:28:54.460 But demography
00:28:56.440 is truly destiny,
00:28:57.700 right?
00:28:58.620 And that's
00:28:59.240 one of the
00:28:59.580 things that
00:28:59.940 I've been,
00:29:00.360 and so have
00:29:00.920 you,
00:29:01.580 you know,
00:29:02.020 been warning
00:29:02.560 people in the
00:29:03.540 West is that
00:29:04.120 it's just a
00:29:04.820 numbers game.
00:29:05.760 And so in
00:29:06.240 Lebanon,
00:29:06.700 you would have
00:29:07.060 never thought
00:29:07.880 that it could
00:29:08.640 ever be
00:29:09.180 anything other
00:29:10.080 than a
00:29:10.500 Christian country.
00:29:11.760 Well,
00:29:12.100 it is no
00:29:12.600 longer a
00:29:13.040 Christian country.
00:29:13.860 What happened
00:29:14.380 to the
00:29:14.960 Syrian
00:29:15.900 Christians?
00:29:16.700 What happened
00:29:17.420 to the
00:29:17.780 Iraqi
00:29:18.140 Christians?
00:29:18.980 What happened
00:29:19.500 to the
00:29:20.120 Coptic
00:29:20.600 Christians of
00:29:21.360 Egypt?
00:29:21.920 Egypt used
00:29:22.440 to be
00:29:22.760 completely
00:29:23.260 Coptic.
00:29:24.040 So it's
00:29:24.760 only a matter
00:29:25.460 of time
00:29:26.020 that you have
00:29:26.880 the reverse
00:29:27.700 happening.
00:29:28.420 Sometimes it
00:29:28.980 takes two
00:29:29.840 minutes for us
00:29:30.780 to Islamize
00:29:31.340 a society.
00:29:32.220 Sometimes it
00:29:32.720 takes two
00:29:33.140 years.
00:29:33.740 Sometimes it
00:29:34.200 takes 200
00:29:34.760 years.
00:29:35.520 But once that
00:29:36.180 trend starts,
00:29:37.180 inshallah, it
00:29:38.120 will eventually
00:29:38.620 be 100%
00:29:39.860 Islamic.
00:29:40.300 And is
00:29:41.860 that the
00:29:42.080 trend
00:29:42.300 you see
00:29:42.620 happening
00:29:42.860 now
00:29:43.160 for the
00:29:43.440 West?
00:29:44.020 Yes.
00:29:45.320 I've been,
00:29:45.780 I mean,
00:29:46.540 I'm speaking
00:29:47.300 to a guy
00:29:47.780 who's been
00:29:48.180 born in
00:29:48.860 Europe.
00:29:50.980 It's
00:29:51.460 absolutely
00:29:51.760 unbelievable,
00:29:52.500 right?
00:29:52.700 So if I,
00:29:53.420 let me
00:29:53.680 contextualize.
00:29:55.020 We moved
00:29:55.520 here at the
00:29:55.920 end of
00:29:56.160 75.
00:29:57.040 From
00:29:57.500 1975
00:29:58.300 to about
00:29:59.480 1998.
00:30:01.100 And the
00:30:01.400 reason why
00:30:01.920 I remember
00:30:02.920 the date
00:30:03.480 is because
00:30:04.300 it's episodic
00:30:05.160 memory,
00:30:05.440 because the
00:30:05.940 first time
00:30:06.740 that I
00:30:07.200 saw a
00:30:08.020 veiled
00:30:08.240 woman in
00:30:08.700 Montreal.
00:30:09.420 So I
00:30:09.900 went from
00:30:10.360 1975 to
00:30:12.420 1998 without
00:30:14.300 ever seeing
00:30:15.740 a veiled
00:30:16.560 woman.
00:30:17.220 As a matter
00:30:17.740 of fact,
00:30:18.000 24 years,
00:30:18.760 nothing?
00:30:19.100 Nothing.
00:30:19.680 Zero.
00:30:20.840 Islam was
00:30:21.620 in my
00:30:22.300 rearview
00:30:22.920 mirror.
00:30:24.000 Then I
00:30:24.520 started
00:30:24.880 seeing.
00:30:26.480 Then I
00:30:27.160 started seeing
00:30:27.700 more.
00:30:28.560 Then I
00:30:28.920 started seeing
00:30:29.500 more.
00:30:30.060 Well,
00:30:30.320 now I
00:30:31.240 can walk
00:30:31.860 out of
00:30:32.320 my house
00:30:33.160 and out
00:30:33.880 of the
00:30:34.240 first 50
00:30:35.420 women I
00:30:35.980 see,
00:30:36.260 25 of
00:30:37.780 them will
00:30:38.160 be veiled.
00:30:39.420 So we've
00:30:39.900 gone from
00:30:40.480 I didn't
00:30:41.020 see a
00:30:41.420 veiled
00:30:41.620 woman for
00:30:42.100 23 years
00:30:42.940 to now
00:30:44.500 it's
00:30:44.780 everywhere.
00:30:45.420 It's
00:30:45.680 normalized
00:30:46.160 everywhere.
00:30:47.760 Now,
00:30:48.820 someone will
00:30:49.320 say,
00:30:49.520 oh,
00:30:49.600 but it's
00:30:49.900 just a
00:30:50.320 garment.
00:30:50.940 It's
00:30:51.120 just what
00:30:51.780 do you
00:30:52.040 carry?
00:30:52.440 It's
00:30:52.500 just an
00:30:52.820 exotic,
00:30:53.400 it's
00:30:53.540 just a,
00:30:54.200 I mean,
00:30:54.520 sure,
00:30:55.600 if you're
00:30:55.900 an idiot,
00:30:56.360 you think
00:30:56.620 that,
00:30:56.880 right?
00:30:58.500 Islam
00:30:58.980 doesn't
00:31:00.220 tolerate
00:31:00.760 others once
00:31:02.380 it becomes
00:31:03.020 in the
00:31:03.420 majority.
00:31:04.480 Does that
00:31:05.000 mean that
00:31:05.480 every Muslim
00:31:06.120 is a horrible
00:31:06.800 person?
00:31:07.300 Of course
00:31:07.660 not.
00:31:08.060 Does it
00:31:08.380 mean that
00:31:08.800 most are
00:31:09.320 lovely?
00:31:10.100 Absolutely.
00:31:10.800 Do I have
00:31:11.280 tons of
00:31:11.700 Muslim friends
00:31:12.360 and fans?
00:31:13.240 Absolutely.
00:31:14.200 We're talking
00:31:14.720 about the
00:31:15.200 ideology.
00:31:16.180 Does Islam
00:31:17.100 tolerate others
00:31:19.640 once it's in the
00:31:20.440 majority?
00:31:21.200 Well,
00:31:21.460 there is this
00:31:21.980 thing called
00:31:22.500 1400 years of
00:31:23.740 data that can
00:31:24.880 answer that
00:31:25.400 question for us,
00:31:26.220 and the answer
00:31:26.960 is rather
00:31:27.760 unequivocal.
00:31:29.360 So why
00:31:29.660 do you think
00:31:30.120 anyone like
00:31:30.820 our country's
00:31:31.440 leaders who
00:31:32.100 have got
00:31:32.760 1400 years
00:31:33.480 of history
00:31:33.840 to look at
00:31:34.360 where there's
00:31:34.700 no success
00:31:35.180 story ever,
00:31:36.860 why do you
00:31:37.160 think they
00:31:37.480 can't work
00:31:38.400 this out?
00:31:39.560 That's why I
00:31:40.340 built the
00:31:40.660 parasitic mind,
00:31:41.440 right?
00:31:41.640 So let me
00:31:42.280 explain what
00:31:43.320 that book is
00:31:44.140 about and then
00:31:44.640 I'll be able to
00:31:45.280 answer that
00:31:45.640 question.
00:31:46.620 So in the
00:31:47.480 animal kingdom
00:31:48.060 there is a
00:31:49.240 field called
00:31:49.740 parasitology.
00:31:51.000 Parasitology is
00:31:51.640 the study of
00:31:52.240 parasites.
00:31:53.440 In the animal
00:31:54.040 kingdom there are
00:31:54.940 all sorts of
00:31:55.980 parasites that
00:31:56.840 can get a
00:31:58.180 hold of its
00:31:58.760 host.
00:31:59.240 So let's say
00:31:59.780 a tapeworm gets
00:32:01.500 into your
00:32:02.400 intestinal tract
00:32:04.140 and it feeds
00:32:05.480 off you.
00:32:07.640 A neuroparasite
00:32:08.960 is a parasite
00:32:10.140 that wants to
00:32:10.840 go to your
00:32:11.320 brain, alter
00:32:12.440 your circuitry
00:32:14.140 to suit its
00:32:15.020 interests.
00:32:15.560 So for example
00:32:16.080 a wood cricket
00:32:17.380 once it is
00:32:18.600 parasitized by
00:32:19.540 a hair worm,
00:32:21.100 brain worm,
00:32:22.340 the hair worm
00:32:24.060 meets the
00:32:24.920 wood cricket
00:32:25.460 to jump
00:32:26.100 into water
00:32:26.940 in order for
00:32:27.660 it to complete
00:32:28.520 its reproductive
00:32:29.160 cycle.
00:32:30.160 The wood cricket
00:32:30.820 detests water,
00:32:32.440 it hates,
00:32:33.380 it abhors water
00:32:34.280 but once its
00:32:35.700 brain is
00:32:36.220 parasitized it
00:32:37.360 becomes zombified
00:32:38.460 so it merely
00:32:39.480 jumps to its
00:32:40.320 suicide in the
00:32:42.060 service of
00:32:43.020 its parasitic
00:32:44.660 what's inside
00:32:45.800 it.
00:32:47.040 So I argued
00:32:48.420 in the parasitic
00:32:49.060 mind that
00:32:50.060 human beings
00:32:51.760 can be
00:32:52.240 parasitized by
00:32:53.660 ideological
00:32:54.620 brain worms.
00:32:56.180 So in the
00:32:56.840 same way that
00:32:57.340 we can be
00:32:57.800 parasitized by
00:32:58.540 actual physical
00:32:59.460 brain worms
00:33:00.100 and humans can
00:33:01.100 be parasitized
00:33:01.740 by actual
00:33:02.140 brain worms
00:33:02.580 we can be
00:33:03.360 parasitized by
00:33:04.980 post-modernism,
00:33:07.000 cultural
00:33:07.420 relativism,
00:33:08.920 social
00:33:09.200 constructivism,
00:33:10.620 radical
00:33:11.000 feminism,
00:33:12.660 identity
00:33:13.120 politics,
00:33:14.020 diversity,
00:33:14.620 inclusion,
00:33:15.020 equity and
00:33:15.720 many others
00:33:16.400 and each of
00:33:17.140 these were
00:33:17.960 spawned on
00:33:18.580 university
00:33:19.060 campuses.
00:33:19.620 I say this
00:33:20.420 regrettably as
00:33:21.060 a professor
00:33:21.520 it takes
00:33:22.580 academics to
00:33:23.720 come up with
00:33:24.140 some of the
00:33:24.560 dumbest ideas
00:33:25.300 and then these
00:33:26.420 ideas end up
00:33:27.840 parasitizing our
00:33:29.480 political class
00:33:30.520 who originally
00:33:31.200 come from the
00:33:32.260 universities and
00:33:33.460 so a roundabout
00:33:34.840 way to answering
00:33:35.560 your question is
00:33:36.540 that our western
00:33:37.940 politicians have
00:33:39.100 had this perfect
00:33:40.180 cocktail of
00:33:41.220 parasitic ideas
00:33:42.260 that causes them
00:33:43.840 to reject that
00:33:46.160 1,400 years of
00:33:47.140 data which
00:33:48.200 in my next
00:33:49.920 book called
00:33:50.980 Suicidal Empathy
00:33:52.120 Next book
00:33:53.440 that's not out
00:33:53.940 yet?
00:33:54.160 That's not out
00:33:54.600 yet.
00:33:55.620 I've only
00:33:56.280 written about
00:33:56.760 a thousand
00:33:57.120 words of it.
00:33:58.820 So in that
00:33:59.740 book I
00:34:00.120 basically argue
00:34:01.020 that empathy
00:34:03.100 is a wonderful
00:34:04.680 emotion to
00:34:05.780 hold as a
00:34:06.540 social species
00:34:07.260 it makes perfect
00:34:08.080 sense that we've
00:34:08.780 evolved empathy.
00:34:10.060 If I exhibit
00:34:10.780 empathy towards
00:34:11.700 you hopefully
00:34:12.320 you'll reciprocate
00:34:13.440 that empathy
00:34:13.960 at some future
00:34:14.540 time.
00:34:14.920 So it's a way
00:34:15.820 for us to
00:34:16.440 oil our
00:34:17.340 relationship
00:34:17.920 it's great.
00:34:19.100 The problem
00:34:19.700 with any
00:34:20.320 emotion is
00:34:21.080 that at
00:34:21.680 times it
00:34:22.100 can misfire
00:34:22.880 right?
00:34:23.460 It can
00:34:23.800 become hyperactive
00:34:24.940 it can target
00:34:26.880 the wrong
00:34:27.640 folks for
00:34:28.520 empathy
00:34:28.900 right?
00:34:29.340 It makes
00:34:29.800 sense that
00:34:30.400 you and I
00:34:31.000 are more
00:34:31.500 empathetic
00:34:32.140 towards our
00:34:32.700 biological
00:34:33.240 children than
00:34:34.380 to random
00:34:34.940 children.
00:34:35.580 That doesn't
00:34:36.140 make us evil
00:34:36.880 it makes us
00:34:37.600 evolutionary beings
00:34:38.800 that recognize
00:34:39.440 that our
00:34:39.840 children are
00:34:40.580 more important.
00:34:42.240 Why?
00:34:42.640 Because they
00:34:43.140 are the
00:34:43.800 vehicle of our
00:34:44.640 immortality.
00:34:45.320 they are
00:34:45.820 literally
00:34:46.640 half our
00:34:47.420 genes are
00:34:48.220 invested in
00:34:49.000 our children
00:34:49.460 so I'm
00:34:50.340 going to
00:34:50.720 jump in
00:34:51.300 front of a
00:34:52.180 truck to
00:34:52.560 save my
00:34:52.940 child more
00:34:53.720 than I am
00:34:54.260 a random
00:34:54.780 kid in
00:34:55.520 Liberia.
00:34:56.140 Not because
00:34:56.600 I'm a
00:34:56.900 callous mean
00:34:57.480 person but
00:34:58.120 because my
00:34:58.900 mind has
00:34:59.580 evolved to
00:35:00.340 actually be
00:35:00.880 able to
00:35:01.380 distinguish
00:35:02.080 between where
00:35:03.120 I should
00:35:03.500 met my
00:35:05.160 investment.
00:35:06.220 So now our
00:35:06.820 western leaders
00:35:07.580 have decided
00:35:08.620 because of
00:35:09.340 this cocktail
00:35:09.920 of parasitic
00:35:10.460 ideas that
00:35:11.620 it is
00:35:12.080 simply evil
00:35:14.320 that we
00:35:15.660 close our
00:35:17.160 wonderful societies
00:35:18.400 to folks
00:35:19.520 from the
00:35:19.840 outside.
00:35:20.560 They too
00:35:21.060 deserve the
00:35:22.180 opportunity to
00:35:23.500 benefit from
00:35:24.640 the west.
00:35:25.200 Now in some
00:35:26.320 small way that's
00:35:27.120 absolutely true.
00:35:27.860 If you want to
00:35:28.420 come to the
00:35:28.980 west and you
00:35:30.140 want to leave
00:35:31.100 at the door all
00:35:32.140 of the cultural
00:35:32.840 and religious
00:35:33.520 values that
00:35:35.180 might be
00:35:35.920 incongruent with
00:35:37.480 our western
00:35:37.920 values then
00:35:39.180 come in my
00:35:39.940 brother and
00:35:40.500 hopefully we
00:35:41.180 can make
00:35:42.000 even a better
00:35:42.560 society with
00:35:43.240 you in it.
00:35:43.980 But if you
00:35:44.680 want to come
00:35:45.120 into the west
00:35:45.840 and you then
00:35:46.700 want to impose
00:35:48.380 your values once
00:35:49.860 you become strong
00:35:50.620 enough to do
00:35:51.220 so well then
00:35:52.500 a three day old
00:35:54.220 pigeon should be
00:35:55.000 able to predict
00:35:56.120 where that's
00:35:56.820 going to go.
00:35:57.600 Well because of
00:35:58.320 these parasitic
00:35:58.940 ideas because of
00:35:59.960 suicidal empathy
00:36:00.820 our western
00:36:01.800 leaders are the
00:36:03.040 happy merrily
00:36:05.500 wood cricket
00:36:06.360 jumping into
00:36:07.420 the water in
00:36:08.420 the surface
00:36:09.020 of the
00:36:09.560 hair wall.
00:36:10.380 Nice analogy.
00:36:11.680 You like that now?
00:36:12.300 Yeah I do.
00:36:12.820 That's why I'm
00:36:13.260 got sound.
00:36:15.460 Okay let's
00:36:16.100 rewind a bit.
00:36:17.000 So you come
00:36:17.320 here at 10
00:36:17.720 11 you come
00:36:18.720 from a war
00:36:19.380 zone you're
00:36:20.320 in a war
00:36:20.600 zone for a
00:36:21.040 year you're
00:36:22.360 escaping maybe
00:36:23.560 going to death
00:36:24.240 at that time
00:36:24.900 you land in
00:36:26.320 Canada what's
00:36:27.500 it like when
00:36:27.840 you land in
00:36:28.240 Canada for a
00:36:29.180 young Jewish
00:36:29.600 kid from
00:36:30.020 Lebanon?
00:36:30.440 It's great so
00:36:31.080 I remember as
00:36:32.280 I was being
00:36:33.600 driven to my
00:36:34.440 first day to
00:36:35.440 elementary school
00:36:36.380 so this is
00:36:37.360 I think we
00:36:38.740 arrived if I'm
00:36:39.600 not mistaken
00:36:39.960 October 31st
00:36:41.100 1975 so it
00:36:43.080 must have been
00:36:43.700 early November
00:36:44.940 that I finally
00:36:46.180 got to elementary
00:36:46.920 school.
00:36:47.920 I saw this
00:36:49.140 weird thing
00:36:49.940 falling snow
00:36:51.200 the boy from
00:36:54.260 Lebanon doesn't
00:36:55.520 see snow although
00:36:56.420 in the mountains
00:36:57.140 of Lebanon
00:36:57.580 there is snow
00:36:58.280 but you know
00:36:59.040 we're in this
00:36:59.900 city where
00:37:00.880 today's weather
00:37:02.300 in Montreal
00:37:02.800 would be
00:37:03.320 considered a
00:37:03.960 cold day in
00:37:04.760 Lebanon and
00:37:05.760 so I'm like
00:37:06.220 what the hell
00:37:06.920 is this but
00:37:07.320 then I remember
00:37:08.040 thinking well
00:37:09.020 it's better that
00:37:09.780 these white
00:37:10.480 things fall on
00:37:11.240 me than the
00:37:11.960 bullets and so
00:37:13.820 in a sense I
00:37:14.500 felt safe so
00:37:15.640 the first thing
00:37:16.140 I felt is my
00:37:17.120 God this is a
00:37:17.920 cold dreary
00:37:19.100 place and I
00:37:20.640 remember the
00:37:21.200 first day that
00:37:22.700 I went into
00:37:23.820 class actually
00:37:25.100 my teacher's
00:37:26.220 name was
00:37:26.740 Madame
00:37:27.440 Mrs.
00:37:29.020 Madame
00:37:29.400 Abu Aisa
00:37:30.260 who she was
00:37:31.860 like I escaped
00:37:33.240 Lebanon I
00:37:34.020 come here and
00:37:34.840 the first person
00:37:35.600 is actually an
00:37:36.480 Arabic name and
00:37:37.680 so she asks me
00:37:38.600 to get up to
00:37:39.300 introduce myself
00:37:40.100 to the class I
00:37:41.580 didn't speak
00:37:42.220 English this was
00:37:43.320 an English
00:37:44.460 elementary school
00:37:45.380 I spoke I
00:37:46.640 mean Arabic is
00:37:47.140 my mother tongue
00:37:47.720 but I also
00:37:48.440 spoke French
00:37:49.380 well you spoke
00:37:50.440 French when you
00:37:50.880 was in Lebanon
00:37:51.240 yeah because
00:37:51.940 Lebanon at one
00:37:52.720 point was a
00:37:53.520 French protectorate
00:37:54.920 so the the
00:37:56.040 upper classes and
00:37:57.120 so on when you
00:37:58.120 went to school
00:37:59.100 you typically
00:37:59.700 learned well
00:38:00.860 Arabic and
00:38:01.800 French so we
00:38:02.860 also everybody
00:38:03.540 spoke French
00:38:04.180 is that why
00:38:04.480 you come to
00:38:04.760 Montreal
00:38:05.020 exactly so
00:38:05.980 there were there
00:38:06.480 were two reasons
00:38:07.100 why we came to
00:38:07.540 Montreal
00:38:07.960 well we had an
00:38:10.320 aunt we had a
00:38:11.500 maternal aunt my
00:38:12.680 mother's sister
00:38:13.460 that had
00:38:14.780 immigrated I
00:38:16.480 think around
00:38:16.820 1970 or late
00:38:18.440 60s with her
00:38:19.840 husband who
00:38:21.080 was a prominent
00:38:21.880 physician who
00:38:22.680 later became the
00:38:23.680 director general
00:38:24.420 of the Montreal
00:38:25.820 Jewish hospital
00:38:27.080 and so because
00:38:29.360 we already had
00:38:30.600 an aunt here
00:38:32.220 and Montreal was
00:38:34.360 French speaking
00:38:35.180 my parents thought
00:38:37.020 okay well let's
00:38:37.620 let's move to
00:38:38.120 Montreal and at
00:38:38.900 the time maybe
00:38:40.120 today as well
00:38:41.240 it was easier to
00:38:42.720 get you know
00:38:43.980 refugee papers
00:38:45.020 in Canada than
00:38:46.760 it would have been
00:38:47.200 in the US my
00:38:47.960 my father was
00:38:48.540 actually quite
00:38:49.140 keen on moving
00:38:50.020 to Israel but
00:38:52.220 he lost that
00:38:52.900 debate with my
00:38:53.480 mother because
00:38:54.140 my mother was
00:38:55.140 not very keen on
00:38:56.020 having all her
00:38:56.720 children end up
00:38:57.900 serving in the
00:38:58.880 military and
00:39:00.240 especially the
00:39:01.580 11 year old who
00:39:02.740 certainly would
00:39:03.640 have been next
00:39:04.420 in line and
00:39:05.540 interestingly when
00:39:06.940 she ended up
00:39:07.620 winning that
00:39:08.500 debate I
00:39:09.660 remember in
00:39:10.360 1982 Israel
00:39:11.660 went into
00:39:12.900 Lebanon to
00:39:15.100 clear out some
00:39:16.340 of the nasty
00:39:17.180 guys well had
00:39:18.880 my father won
00:39:19.760 you'd have been
00:39:20.200 in there the
00:39:21.060 first guy in
00:39:21.780 there I would
00:39:22.360 have been the
00:39:22.900 absolute so I
00:39:23.720 am the Lebanese
00:39:24.840 guy who only
00:39:26.160 left seven years
00:39:27.100 ago I'm in my
00:39:28.000 first year of
00:39:28.840 military service
00:39:29.640 because in 1982
00:39:30.780 I would have been
00:39:31.840 17 going on
00:39:32.720 18 and I'm
00:39:34.660 Arabic speaker
00:39:35.580 who's going who's
00:39:36.840 going into Lebanon
00:39:37.560 so it would have
00:39:38.360 been me I would
00:39:39.080 have been the
00:39:39.940 guy so anyway so
00:39:42.280 when we I get
00:39:45.180 to that elementary
00:39:46.140 school and the
00:39:47.540 teacher asked me
00:39:48.400 to stand up and
00:39:49.800 introduce myself
00:39:51.360 I didn't speak
00:39:52.640 English so I said
00:39:54.100 you know my name
00:39:55.460 I mean I said
00:39:56.460 it in French my
00:39:57.240 name is Gad Saad
00:39:58.660 and I come from
00:40:00.440 Lebanon
00:40:01.120 je m'appelle
00:40:02.600 Gad Saad
00:40:03.260 et je viens
00:40:03.740 je dis bon
00:40:04.260 and so the kids
00:40:05.660 were like what
00:40:06.540 because a lot of
00:40:07.340 them are English
00:40:08.520 only although you
00:40:10.180 would think that
00:40:11.080 Montreal is a
00:40:11.540 bilingual city
00:40:12.120 and so then I
00:40:13.460 said Liban
00:40:14.780 and I went like
00:40:15.440 this to make
00:40:16.480 like a shuji
00:40:17.780 to gesture for
00:40:20.160 them to know
00:40:20.620 Liban
00:40:21.580 for Lebanon
00:40:22.760 right
00:40:23.220 and incredibly
00:40:25.220 a few years ago
00:40:26.800 I was at
00:40:28.140 at the time my
00:40:29.400 daughter's elementary
00:40:30.700 school barbecue
00:40:31.980 end of year
00:40:32.800 and a guy came
00:40:34.560 up
00:40:34.740 from your class
00:40:35.340 from that class
00:40:37.560 and said
00:40:38.260 I remember
00:40:39.600 you
00:40:40.080 exactly
00:40:40.780 and you know
00:40:42.020 we didn't grow
00:40:42.940 up with
00:40:43.460 cell phones
00:40:44.360 and that
00:40:44.640 so your
00:40:45.900 documented
00:40:46.600 history
00:40:47.300 only lives
00:40:48.380 in your
00:40:49.060 memory
00:40:49.540 and in
00:40:50.440 anybody else
00:40:51.460 who shared
00:40:52.340 that experience
00:40:53.120 so in him
00:40:54.240 saying that
00:40:55.200 story
00:40:55.740 that was
00:40:56.980 the cell phone
00:40:57.900 showing
00:40:58.360 yeah
00:40:58.780 he's like
00:40:59.540 I remember
00:41:00.200 you the
00:41:00.580 first day
00:41:01.200 and I'm
00:41:01.700 like oh
00:41:02.040 my god
00:41:02.460 it gave me
00:41:03.800 goosebumps
00:41:04.080 so
00:41:04.920 so anyway
00:41:05.820 so then I
00:41:06.600 very very
00:41:07.480 quickly settled
00:41:08.340 into my
00:41:09.360 life
00:41:09.580 you know
00:41:10.120 children are
00:41:10.680 very
00:41:11.080 malleable
00:41:11.940 they have
00:41:12.440 great
00:41:12.780 plasticity
00:41:13.780 it doesn't
00:41:14.700 you know
00:41:15.020 you go from
00:41:15.820 worrying about
00:41:17.100 dying every
00:41:17.720 second
00:41:18.080 to worrying
00:41:19.880 about whether
00:41:20.860 you're going
00:41:21.640 to make
00:41:21.940 the soccer
00:41:22.320 team
00:41:22.600 although I
00:41:24.240 wasn't worried
00:41:24.640 about that
00:41:24.980 because I was
00:41:25.340 a very good
00:41:25.740 soccer player
00:41:26.240 I think
00:41:31.000 one of the
00:41:31.440 things that
00:41:31.820 really
00:41:32.140 as a
00:41:33.280 slight
00:41:33.760 tangent
00:41:34.120 one of the
00:41:34.840 things that
00:41:35.180 I think
00:41:35.560 either makes
00:41:36.720 your
00:41:37.580 elementary
00:41:39.060 school
00:41:39.480 and high
00:41:40.200 school years
00:41:40.900 very painless
00:41:42.460 or very
00:41:43.300 painful
00:41:43.780 is your
00:41:44.700 athletic
00:41:45.140 ability
00:41:45.680 yeah if
00:41:46.360 you're good
00:41:46.560 at a football
00:41:46.900 team
00:41:47.120 you've got
00:41:47.320 mates
00:41:47.660 I mean
00:41:48.320 you're the
00:41:49.000 guy
00:41:49.140 and so I
00:41:49.580 was really
00:41:50.200 very good
00:41:50.860 at soccer
00:41:51.320 and so
00:41:51.820 I didn't
00:41:53.720 you know
00:41:53.900 I wasn't
00:41:54.220 popular
00:41:54.680 I was popular
00:41:55.880 there
00:41:56.160 you know
00:41:56.620 I was a
00:41:56.980 friendly
00:41:57.240 kid
00:41:57.780 incredibly
00:41:59.140 in the
00:42:00.400 last year
00:42:01.360 I mean
00:42:02.460 it's so
00:42:02.780 funny because
00:42:03.360 you must be
00:42:04.520 a great host
00:42:05.120 because I'm
00:42:05.580 telling a lot
00:42:06.100 of stories
00:42:06.540 that I've
00:42:07.080 never told
00:42:07.460 before
00:42:07.740 the last
00:42:08.960 year of
00:42:09.900 my
00:42:10.500 elementary
00:42:11.420 school
00:42:11.960 the teacher
00:42:12.960 that we
00:42:13.320 had
00:42:13.660 I don't
00:42:14.660 know if
00:42:14.940 I'm
00:42:15.160 she would
00:42:15.660 care that
00:42:16.000 I said
00:42:16.320 I remember
00:42:16.720 her very
00:42:19.820 well
00:42:20.340 because I
00:42:21.780 think a lot
00:42:22.240 of the boys
00:42:22.900 had a little
00:42:24.080 bit of a
00:42:24.580 crush on
00:42:25.100 her 12
00:42:26.040 13 year
00:42:26.600 old boy
00:42:27.200 crush
00:42:27.740 did you
00:42:29.460 I thought
00:42:30.680 she was
00:42:30.900 very attractive
00:42:31.340 a lot of
00:42:31.620 the boys
00:42:31.900 you mean
00:42:32.180 you did
00:42:32.480 I think
00:42:35.300 you're the
00:42:35.640 psychologist
00:42:36.100 now
00:42:36.400 so this
00:42:39.980 is
00:42:40.140 this would
00:42:40.860 be 1977
00:42:41.960 now
00:42:42.820 my last
00:42:43.560 year of
00:42:43.840 elementary
00:42:44.140 school
00:42:44.540 this was
00:42:47.520 about three
00:42:48.040 years ago
00:42:48.500 so
00:42:48.680 40
00:42:49.940 some years
00:42:50.740 later
00:42:51.120 I received
00:42:52.420 an email
00:42:53.480 guess who
00:42:55.180 it's from
00:42:55.560 from that
00:42:56.860 teacher
00:42:57.320 I
00:42:58.120 recently
00:42:59.540 saw you
00:43:01.020 whatever
00:43:01.640 I don't
00:43:02.140 know if
00:43:02.440 you remember
00:43:02.880 me
00:43:03.220 I was
00:43:03.600 your thing
00:43:04.000 so it
00:43:04.860 was during
00:43:05.240 COVID
00:43:05.740 so then
00:43:06.840 she said
00:43:07.460 well we
00:43:08.660 can't meet
00:43:09.240 now but
00:43:09.740 maybe would
00:43:10.500 you be open
00:43:10.960 to meeting
00:43:11.440 for a
00:43:12.080 coffee
00:43:12.440 and so
00:43:13.300 actually
00:43:14.380 where we
00:43:15.520 had our
00:43:17.180 latte
00:43:18.040 yesterday
00:43:18.600 I met
00:43:20.220 her
00:43:20.520 and actually
00:43:21.200 my wife
00:43:21.780 came
00:43:21.980 I can't
00:43:22.320 remember
00:43:22.560 how many
00:43:23.420 of our
00:43:23.680 children
00:43:23.940 came
00:43:24.280 but I
00:43:25.180 met
00:43:25.500 that
00:43:25.940 teacher
00:43:26.320 so
00:43:27.180 she's
00:43:27.600 obviously
00:43:28.380 seen you
00:43:28.860 on TV
00:43:29.240 she's seen
00:43:29.900 you
00:43:30.060 exactly
00:43:30.580 I know
00:43:32.560 this
00:43:32.820 and so
00:43:34.120 I actually
00:43:34.780 asked her
00:43:35.300 I said
00:43:35.580 how
00:43:36.020 because again
00:43:36.720 you don't
00:43:37.080 have the
00:43:37.500 cell phone
00:43:38.040 so your
00:43:38.940 memories
00:43:39.420 are either
00:43:39.960 in your
00:43:40.260 head
00:43:40.560 or through
00:43:41.020 the eyes
00:43:41.380 of someone
00:43:41.740 else
00:43:42.020 she said
00:43:42.620 oh I
00:43:42.940 remember
00:43:43.280 you
00:43:43.520 you were
00:43:43.900 very
00:43:44.540 you know
00:43:45.200 fun
00:43:45.760 you know
00:43:46.320 you're a
00:43:46.620 very good
00:43:47.020 student
00:43:47.420 you were
00:43:47.920 always
00:43:48.480 funny
00:43:49.000 and so
00:43:49.480 on
00:43:49.660 and so
00:43:50.360 in a
00:43:50.860 sense
00:43:51.240 your
00:43:51.820 personality
00:43:52.560 is your
00:43:52.880 personality
00:43:53.540 so the
00:43:53.960 guy that
00:43:54.460 she described
00:43:55.240 as a
00:43:55.660 12 year
00:43:56.260 old boy
00:43:56.860 was
00:43:58.180 exactly
00:43:59.200 the guy
00:43:59.620 that I
00:43:59.880 am today
00:44:00.340 so I
00:44:00.700 sometimes
00:44:01.080 have a
00:44:01.420 hard time
00:44:01.740 believing
00:44:01.980 I'm in my
00:44:02.380 50s
00:44:02.800 I still
00:44:03.100 think I'm
00:44:03.460 a 12
00:44:03.740 year old
00:44:04.020 boy
00:44:04.220 so life
00:44:05.440 was good
00:44:06.240 here
00:44:06.580 it was
00:44:06.920 fine
00:44:07.320 I got
00:44:08.780 into
00:44:09.120 soccer
00:44:09.820 I was
00:44:10.340 doing
00:44:10.560 well
00:44:10.800 in school
00:44:11.340 the first
00:44:13.300 couple of
00:44:13.640 years were
00:44:13.960 tough
00:44:14.220 as I
00:44:14.520 mentioned
00:44:14.780 because my
00:44:15.220 parents kept
00:44:15.640 going back
00:44:16.180 to Lebanon
00:44:16.640 so I
00:44:17.680 didn't have
00:44:18.180 really too
00:44:19.180 much parental
00:44:19.780 guidance
00:44:20.280 but then in
00:44:21.060 1980 they
00:44:22.160 returned
00:44:22.520 permanently
00:44:22.980 which actually
00:44:23.820 caused a bit
00:44:24.380 of friction
00:44:24.800 because then
00:44:26.620 they wanted to
00:44:27.360 assume the
00:44:28.040 parental role
00:44:28.860 and I had a
00:44:29.860 bit of
00:44:30.120 you were
00:44:30.360 rebelling
00:44:30.600 against it
00:44:31.080 I mean like
00:44:31.640 hey I didn't
00:44:32.340 need you to
00:44:32.980 tell me to do
00:44:33.660 my homework
00:44:34.320 all the
00:44:34.960 years
00:44:35.280 all the years
00:44:35.300 you were
00:44:35.540 back
00:44:35.820 but did
00:44:36.100 you do
00:44:36.320 your
00:44:36.440 homework
00:44:36.740 I was
00:44:38.200 a very
00:44:38.460 conscientious
00:44:39.000 guy
00:44:39.240 I was
00:44:39.660 so you
00:44:40.040 were still
00:44:40.320 on your
00:44:41.720 studies
00:44:42.180 yeah
00:44:42.600 you know
00:44:43.780 I
00:44:44.160 you know
00:44:45.060 you're lucky
00:44:45.220 then your
00:44:45.520 parents
00:44:45.820 because you
00:44:46.160 could have
00:44:46.360 gone off the
00:44:46.700 parents
00:44:46.800 and believe me
00:44:48.260 I had
00:44:49.600 people in
00:44:51.040 that group
00:44:52.000 who you know
00:44:53.180 were pretty
00:44:53.640 rough
00:44:54.100 I mean
00:44:54.420 not rough
00:44:55.400 Detroit
00:44:56.180 Michigan
00:44:57.160 but you know
00:44:58.380 that I could
00:44:58.860 have easily
00:44:59.400 veered into
00:45:00.060 the wrong
00:45:00.460 directions
00:45:00.820 I never
00:45:01.520 took drugs
00:45:02.460 I never
00:45:02.920 smoked
00:45:03.740 I
00:45:04.060 I would
00:45:04.800 you know
00:45:05.080 I mean
00:45:05.400 I was a
00:45:05.740 joker
00:45:05.960 I would do
00:45:06.440 little silly
00:45:07.000 things
00:45:07.320 but I
00:45:08.720 stayed on
00:45:09.220 the narrow
00:45:09.800 path
00:45:10.200 and here
00:45:11.220 we are
00:45:11.540 many years
00:45:11.940 later
00:45:12.160 with Thomas
00:45:12.540 Robinson
00:45:12.900 not on the
00:45:14.180 straight path
00:45:14.580 so you've
00:45:17.120 got
00:45:17.260 when you
00:45:17.540 come out
00:45:17.800 of school
00:45:18.060 you said
00:45:18.340 if you were
00:45:18.700 academic
00:45:19.060 what did
00:45:19.580 you want
00:45:19.780 to be
00:45:19.980 when you
00:45:20.200 were leaving
00:45:20.440 school
00:45:20.760 yeah so
00:45:21.500 so there
00:45:21.840 were only
00:45:22.180 two things
00:45:23.120 that I'd
00:45:23.420 ever been
00:45:23.900 interested
00:45:24.320 in being
00:45:25.560 and I
00:45:26.280 thought
00:45:26.560 for sure
00:45:27.120 both
00:45:27.500 would
00:45:27.780 happen
00:45:29.440 from a
00:45:30.460 very
00:45:30.700 very
00:45:30.980 young
00:45:31.220 age
00:45:31.500 I
00:45:32.100 wanted
00:45:32.320 to be
00:45:32.660 a
00:45:32.860 professional
00:45:33.240 soccer
00:45:33.580 player
00:45:33.900 and I
00:45:34.440 wanted
00:45:34.640 to be
00:45:35.000 a
00:45:35.280 professor
00:45:35.720 in a
00:45:36.700 sense
00:45:36.960 I
00:45:37.240 if I
00:45:38.100 can
00:45:38.260 they're
00:45:38.500 two very
00:45:38.860 different
00:45:39.100 things
00:45:39.520 two very
00:45:40.040 different
00:45:40.760 things
00:45:41.220 I'm
00:45:42.600 fortunate
00:45:43.440 enough
00:45:43.860 to have
00:45:44.260 been
00:45:44.620 the rare
00:45:45.640 unicorn
00:45:46.440 who
00:45:47.160 had both
00:45:48.240 the brawn
00:45:49.000 and the
00:45:49.480 brains
00:45:49.880 right
00:45:50.240 I had
00:45:51.120 both the
00:45:51.500 athletic
00:45:51.800 ability
00:45:52.240 and was
00:45:53.000 also very
00:45:53.560 academically
00:45:54.160 oriented
00:45:54.940 which also
00:45:55.740 by the way
00:45:56.220 allowed me
00:45:57.040 to be
00:45:57.440 popular
00:45:58.160 and so on
00:45:58.540 I think
00:45:58.800 had I been
00:45:59.360 only academically
00:46:00.120 oriented
00:46:00.700 then I
00:46:01.460 would have
00:46:01.660 been
00:46:01.860 with the
00:46:02.420 nerd
00:46:02.740 geek
00:46:03.360 types
00:46:03.700 but once
00:46:04.720 you do
00:46:05.260 the things
00:46:05.620 that you
00:46:05.840 can do
00:46:06.060 on the
00:46:06.260 soccer field
00:46:06.720 and suddenly
00:46:07.200 all the
00:46:07.720 girls think
00:46:08.160 you're the
00:46:09.160 hot guy
00:46:10.120 right
00:46:10.400 so I
00:46:12.420 wanted to be
00:46:12.900 a soccer
00:46:13.240 player
00:46:13.560 I thought
00:46:14.100 that I
00:46:14.560 would pursue
00:46:15.000 my academic
00:46:15.600 career
00:46:16.020 once my
00:46:17.000 soccer career
00:46:17.780 finished
00:46:18.180 I faced
00:46:19.560 a few
00:46:19.860 difficulties
00:46:20.500 number one
00:46:21.660 in the late
00:46:22.580 70s and
00:46:23.240 early 80s
00:46:24.180 being a big
00:46:25.440 soccer player
00:46:26.140 in Montreal
00:46:26.700 Canada
00:46:27.180 did not afford
00:46:28.100 you many
00:46:29.060 opportunities
00:46:29.720 there were
00:46:31.260 some opportunities
00:46:32.080 to head off
00:46:33.120 to Europe
00:46:33.620 how good
00:46:34.040 was your
00:46:34.280 day
00:46:34.460 so I
00:46:35.780 got up
00:46:36.280 to the
00:46:37.020 under 18
00:46:38.020 national
00:46:39.320 program
00:46:42.400 so I made
00:46:43.320 the Quebec
00:46:43.720 team
00:46:44.040 so I don't
00:46:44.500 know
00:46:44.600 we have
00:46:46.140 10 provinces
00:46:46.820 in Canada
00:46:47.440 so one
00:46:50.160 of the
00:46:50.360 provinces
00:46:50.700 is Quebec
00:46:51.380 so making
00:46:52.840 the under 18
00:46:53.680 Quebec
00:46:54.000 now Quebec
00:46:54.840 likes to
00:46:55.360 consider itself
00:46:56.100 as an
00:46:56.620 independent
00:46:57.240 nation
00:46:57.720 within a
00:46:58.160 nation
00:46:58.480 so in
00:46:59.200 that sense
00:46:59.740 it would
00:46:59.980 be like
00:47:00.300 being
00:47:00.580 capped
00:47:01.340 for the
00:47:02.380 under 18
00:47:03.760 I had
00:47:06.060 won many
00:47:06.780 championships
00:47:07.820 so my
00:47:08.800 club was
00:47:09.460 Quebec
00:47:09.720 champion
00:47:10.200 my club
00:47:11.540 had gone
00:47:12.140 to the
00:47:12.620 Canadian
00:47:13.020 championship
00:47:13.640 I was
00:47:14.860 vice
00:47:15.380 champion
00:47:15.760 of Canada
00:47:16.400 with the
00:47:17.060 Quebec
00:47:17.280 team
00:47:17.680 I had
00:47:19.000 gone to
00:47:19.440 a national
00:47:20.080 training
00:47:20.680 camp
00:47:20.960 for the
00:47:21.820 under 18
00:47:22.280 but then
00:47:23.680 there was
00:47:24.020 a tournament
00:47:24.560 so my
00:47:25.200 my club
00:47:26.000 had won
00:47:26.380 the Quebec
00:47:26.780 championship
00:47:27.800 so we were
00:47:28.460 Quebec champions
00:47:29.400 we were going
00:47:30.320 for the
00:47:30.660 Eastern Canadian
00:47:31.340 championship
00:47:31.860 and in that
00:47:32.640 tournament
00:47:33.100 in Burlington
00:47:34.120 Ontario
00:47:34.580 which is about
00:47:35.140 five six
00:47:35.540 hours away
00:47:36.000 I had a
00:47:37.120 devastating
00:47:37.620 career ending
00:47:38.780 injury
00:47:39.120 you would know
00:47:39.660 because you
00:47:40.420 understand soccer
00:47:41.260 I had a guy
00:47:42.960 come from behind
00:47:43.660 me and do a
00:47:44.220 scissor stack
00:47:44.840 and it caught
00:47:46.140 my leg
00:47:46.880 and just
00:47:47.380 destroyed my
00:47:48.280 leg
00:47:48.540 and so
00:47:50.680 when the
00:47:51.340 surgeon was
00:47:51.900 going to
00:47:52.480 try to fix
00:47:53.640 it
00:47:53.860 and I
00:47:54.880 asked him
00:47:55.380 you know
00:47:55.680 when do you
00:47:56.000 think I
00:47:56.340 can play
00:47:57.140 again
00:47:57.400 he had
00:47:57.940 said oh
00:47:58.400 never mind
00:47:59.260 playing
00:47:59.560 I'm not
00:48:00.040 sure if
00:48:00.320 you'll ever
00:48:00.700 walk without
00:48:01.620 a limp
00:48:02.040 right
00:48:02.780 and so
00:48:03.400 because of
00:48:05.520 that
00:48:05.860 because I
00:48:06.580 was growing
00:48:07.040 up in
00:48:07.720 Canada
00:48:08.320 because I
00:48:09.020 didn't have
00:48:09.620 the family
00:48:11.200 environment
00:48:11.820 that supported
00:48:13.720 those kinds
00:48:14.640 of dreams
00:48:14.940 so for all
00:48:15.480 sorts of
00:48:15.820 dynamics
00:48:16.300 I really
00:48:17.320 you know
00:48:17.900 I didn't
00:48:19.260 have Messi's
00:48:20.180 father saying
00:48:21.160 sure we'll
00:48:22.380 all move
00:48:22.920 to Barcelona
00:48:23.520 and put
00:48:24.260 all our
00:48:24.720 chips
00:48:25.040 on you
00:48:26.060 and so
00:48:27.020 I had
00:48:27.460 you know
00:48:27.740 had I
00:48:28.080 I remember
00:48:29.120 by the way
00:48:29.580 my first
00:48:30.420 the first time
00:48:31.940 that I
00:48:32.200 visited
00:48:32.540 Israel
00:48:33.440 in 1983
00:48:35.520 I would play
00:48:36.500 soccer everywhere
00:48:37.300 and at one
00:48:38.380 point I met
00:48:39.020 a bunch of
00:48:39.480 British guys
00:48:40.100 two of whom
00:48:41.460 recently wrote
00:48:42.500 to me
00:48:42.900 this is 1983
00:48:44.260 this is 41
00:48:45.320 years ago
00:48:46.320 so I was playing
00:48:47.440 with a bunch of
00:48:48.000 British guys
00:48:48.480 they saw me
00:48:55.800 play
00:48:56.200 and they
00:48:57.200 said
00:48:57.460 why aren't
00:48:59.160 you
00:48:59.460 at some
00:49:00.540 first division
00:49:01.860 club in
00:49:02.740 England
00:49:03.080 you're better
00:49:03.660 than almost
00:49:04.120 anybody
00:49:04.480 that we've
00:49:04.920 ever seen
00:49:05.280 they were
00:49:05.680 British guys
00:49:07.120 with Uther
00:49:07.460 soccer
00:49:07.840 and when I
00:49:08.580 was 15
00:49:09.120 I had a
00:49:09.640 guy who
00:49:10.160 was Scottish
00:49:11.300 watched me
00:49:12.080 actually scored
00:49:12.760 a goal
00:49:13.080 not too far
00:49:13.700 from where
00:49:14.220 you and I
00:49:15.080 met
00:49:15.340 who said
00:49:17.320 I can
00:49:18.020 make calls
00:49:19.240 right now
00:49:19.820 and send you
00:49:20.880 to be an
00:49:21.300 apprentice
00:49:21.680 with Celtic
00:49:22.580 tomorrow morning
00:49:23.480 but because
00:49:25.020 I grew up
00:49:25.740 in that
00:49:26.160 environment
00:49:26.680 where I
00:49:27.480 didn't have
00:49:28.040 the good
00:49:28.420 family
00:49:28.940 backing
00:49:29.820 because I'm
00:49:30.660 in Canada
00:49:31.160 because of
00:49:31.900 my injury
00:49:32.460 that dream
00:49:33.740 ended
00:49:34.260 and so the
00:49:34.920 highest I
00:49:35.500 got was
00:49:36.080 really under
00:49:36.880 18
00:49:37.360 I mean I
00:49:37.820 played after
00:49:38.580 baloney stuff
00:49:39.920 tournaments
00:49:41.740 with my
00:49:42.260 university
00:49:42.720 but nothing
00:49:43.460 serious
00:49:43.880 and so
00:49:44.920 then my
00:49:45.280 career was
00:49:45.720 over
00:49:45.960 and so
00:49:46.320 I just
00:49:46.660 then laid
00:49:47.140 into
00:49:47.480 academia
00:49:48.400 fully
00:49:48.760 and I
00:49:49.480 ended up
00:49:50.040 which you
00:49:50.780 did what
00:49:51.060 what did
00:49:51.280 you first
00:49:51.660 study
00:49:51.940 so my
00:49:52.480 first
00:49:52.800 my
00:49:53.140 undergraduate
00:49:54.060 my bachelor's
00:49:54.800 degree
00:49:55.080 was in
00:49:55.660 about as
00:49:56.760 technical
00:49:57.420 and theoretical
00:49:58.480 fields as you
00:49:59.060 can get
00:49:59.340 mathematics
00:49:59.960 and computer
00:50:00.700 science
00:50:01.160 and the
00:50:02.260 idea there
00:50:03.180 was
00:50:03.780 well first
00:50:04.440 I was very
00:50:04.860 good in
00:50:05.480 mathematics
00:50:06.220 but I
00:50:07.520 thought if
00:50:08.040 I'm going
00:50:08.420 to be an
00:50:08.860 academic
00:50:09.320 irrespective
00:50:10.480 of which
00:50:10.860 field I
00:50:11.320 end up
00:50:11.720 being an
00:50:12.580 academic
00:50:12.900 in
00:50:13.260 it's good
00:50:14.340 to have
00:50:15.040 the first
00:50:16.200 degree be
00:50:17.300 the hardest
00:50:18.240 possible
00:50:18.780 because in
00:50:19.520 the same
00:50:19.840 way that
00:50:20.260 athletes will
00:50:21.720 do sit-ups
00:50:22.420 even though
00:50:23.120 they're soccer
00:50:23.560 players
00:50:23.800 they're not
00:50:24.160 kicking the
00:50:24.920 ball with
00:50:25.240 their abs
00:50:25.700 but you
00:50:26.320 need to have
00:50:26.740 your whole
00:50:27.060 body be
00:50:27.560 in shape
00:50:27.960 I needed
00:50:28.860 this guy
00:50:29.480 to be
00:50:30.220 in shape
00:50:30.900 so that
00:50:31.580 whatever I
00:50:32.160 ended up
00:50:32.560 studying later
00:50:33.360 comes easy
00:50:34.600 and by the way
00:50:35.500 many of the
00:50:36.140 top academic
00:50:36.860 psychologists
00:50:37.440 all have
00:50:38.740 a
00:50:39.100 mathematics
00:50:39.520 background
00:50:39.960 because it
00:50:40.460 trains you
00:50:40.880 to be
00:50:41.300 an
00:50:41.560 analytical
00:50:41.980 thinker
00:50:42.580 right
00:50:42.960 so my
00:50:43.700 undergrad was
00:50:44.280 in
00:50:44.500 mathematics
00:50:45.200 computer
00:50:45.580 science
00:50:45.960 then I
00:50:46.860 went on
00:50:47.360 and I
00:50:47.600 did an
00:50:48.040 MBA
00:50:48.360 with a
00:50:50.280 mini thesis
00:50:51.000 in operations
00:50:51.780 research
00:50:52.200 which is
00:50:52.700 again an
00:50:53.420 applied
00:50:53.740 mathematics
00:50:54.240 field
00:50:54.660 then I
00:50:56.360 so both
00:50:57.200 of these
00:50:57.620 degrees
00:50:57.960 so my
00:50:58.280 undergrad and
00:50:58.720 my MBA
00:50:59.120 was at
00:50:59.640 McGill
00:51:00.020 University
00:51:00.580 which
00:51:01.460 is where
00:51:01.980 is here
00:51:02.860 in Montreal
00:51:03.280 historically
00:51:04.840 it's the
00:51:05.320 number one
00:51:05.760 school in
00:51:06.240 Canada
00:51:06.560 and usually
00:51:07.260 has been in
00:51:08.260 the top
00:51:08.600 20
00:51:09.040 universities
00:51:09.800 in the
00:51:10.100 world
00:51:10.320 it's known
00:51:10.940 as the
00:51:11.220 Harvard
00:51:11.500 of the
00:51:12.360 north
00:51:12.640 it is
00:51:14.220 today
00:51:14.520 known
00:51:14.860 for
00:51:15.180 its
00:51:15.560 now
00:51:16.040 many
00:51:16.340 months
00:51:16.720 of
00:51:17.160 noble
00:51:18.160 Palestinian
00:51:18.860 encampment
00:51:19.700 on campus
00:51:20.620 that's what
00:51:21.560 it's known
00:51:21.920 for now
00:51:22.460 so if you
00:51:23.080 go
00:51:23.540 actually it's
00:51:24.520 not far
00:51:24.900 from here
00:51:25.240 McGill
00:51:25.560 no they've
00:51:26.320 got the
00:51:26.540 encampment
00:51:26.940 they have
00:51:27.280 the mass
00:51:27.940 that's at
00:51:29.300 McGill
00:51:29.540 now
00:51:29.840 so when
00:51:30.440 you was at
00:51:30.900 university
00:51:31.980 was there
00:51:32.760 any
00:51:32.920 won't
00:51:33.160 miss
00:51:33.440 in
00:51:33.980 the
00:51:34.080 university
00:51:34.420 when
00:51:34.760 you
00:51:34.860 not
00:51:35.380 not
00:51:36.020 undergrad
00:51:36.580 not
00:51:37.320 MBA
00:51:37.800 but
00:51:38.280 we're
00:51:38.560 going
00:51:38.660 to
00:51:38.780 come
00:51:39.000 to
00:51:39.200 my
00:51:39.600 second
00:51:40.380 master's
00:51:40.840 my
00:51:40.980 master's
00:51:41.360 of
00:51:41.440 science
00:51:41.640 and my
00:51:41.860 PhD
00:51:42.160 and
00:51:43.040 there
00:51:43.440 you
00:51:43.680 start
00:51:43.980 seeing
00:51:44.280 a
00:51:44.460 tiny
00:51:44.720 bit
00:51:44.920 of
00:51:45.040 it
00:51:45.220 so
00:51:45.720 I'll
00:51:45.860 get
00:51:46.000 to
00:51:46.120 it
00:51:46.280 so
00:51:46.780 my
00:51:47.060 undergrad
00:51:47.420 and
00:51:47.560 my
00:51:47.680 MBA
00:51:47.920 were
00:51:48.120 at
00:51:48.240 McGill
00:51:48.640 then
00:51:49.040 I
00:51:49.200 did
00:51:49.440 my
00:51:49.780 then
00:51:50.360 straight
00:51:51.320 after
00:51:51.580 my
00:51:51.780 MBA
00:51:52.100 I
00:51:52.540 went
00:51:53.080 to
00:51:53.420 Cornell
00:51:53.860 University
00:51:54.540 which
00:51:55.720 is
00:51:55.840 one
00:51:56.000 of
00:51:56.100 the
00:51:56.240 Ivy
00:51:56.540 League
00:51:56.820 universities
00:51:57.780 in
00:51:58.160 the
00:51:58.300 United
00:51:58.520 States
00:51:58.940 the
00:52:00.340 goal
00:52:00.720 there
00:52:01.120 was
00:52:01.540 to
00:52:01.780 be
00:52:02.360 a
00:52:02.700 mathematical
00:52:03.400 modeler
00:52:04.260 meaning
00:52:04.820 to
00:52:05.300 apply
00:52:05.780 mathematics
00:52:06.700 to
00:52:07.440 study
00:52:07.780 human
00:52:08.120 behavior
00:52:08.560 so
00:52:08.960 I
00:52:09.120 would
00:52:09.300 join
00:52:10.100 my
00:52:10.500 quantitative
00:52:11.340 background
00:52:12.120 in
00:52:13.220 trying
00:52:13.520 to
00:52:13.720 understand
00:52:14.260 how
00:52:14.740 people
00:52:15.020 make
00:52:15.220 economic
00:52:15.640 decisions
00:52:16.080 and so
00:52:16.380 on
00:52:16.520 but
00:52:16.740 when
00:52:16.900 I
00:52:17.020 got
00:52:17.200 to
00:52:17.400 Cornell
00:52:17.680 I
00:52:18.720 hooked
00:52:19.280 up
00:52:19.540 with
00:52:19.780 a
00:52:20.100 professor
00:52:20.860 who
00:52:21.140 eventually
00:52:21.520 became
00:52:22.000 my
00:52:22.360 doctoral
00:52:23.080 supervisor
00:52:23.680 his
00:52:24.280 name
00:52:24.460 is
00:52:24.680 Jay
00:52:25.100 Russo
00:52:25.520 who
00:52:26.080 is
00:52:26.180 a
00:52:26.400 very
00:52:26.780 well
00:52:27.040 known
00:52:27.300 cognitive
00:52:28.000 psychologist
00:52:28.820 what
00:52:29.160 does
00:52:29.220 mean
00:52:29.400 cognitive
00:52:30.280 psychologist
00:52:30.680 is
00:52:30.960 somebody
00:52:31.280 who
00:52:31.460 studies
00:52:31.720 cognition
00:52:32.200 how
00:52:32.640 does
00:52:33.000 the
00:52:33.140 brain
00:52:33.340 think
00:52:33.660 how
00:52:33.880 is
00:52:34.020 memory
00:52:34.280 structured
00:52:34.720 how
00:52:34.940 do
00:52:35.040 you
00:52:35.100 make
00:52:35.240 decisions
00:52:35.720 so
00:52:37.040 and
00:52:38.520 his
00:52:38.820 specialty
00:52:39.360 was
00:52:39.860 behavioral
00:52:40.660 decision
00:52:41.180 making
00:52:41.500 how
00:52:41.760 do
00:52:41.900 people
00:52:42.120 actually
00:52:42.440 make
00:52:42.700 decisions
00:52:43.200 how
00:52:43.860 do
00:52:44.020 you
00:52:44.140 choose
00:52:44.440 between
00:52:44.780 cars
00:52:45.220 how
00:52:45.440 do
00:52:45.560 you
00:52:45.680 choose
00:52:46.040 between
00:52:46.600 political
00:52:47.080 candidates
00:52:47.620 how
00:52:47.920 do
00:52:48.040 you
00:52:48.240 how
00:52:48.780 do
00:52:48.920 you
00:52:49.180 go
00:52:50.080 through
00:52:50.280 information
00:52:50.840 when
00:52:51.180 you
00:52:51.280 choosing
00:52:51.680 I
00:52:52.440 mean
00:52:52.560 he
00:52:55.520 we
00:52:55.700 choose
00:52:56.000 our
00:52:56.260 mates
00:52:56.540 and
00:52:57.240 so
00:52:57.520 I
00:52:58.280 quickly
00:52:58.760 veered
00:52:59.220 from
00:52:59.600 wanting
00:53:00.260 to be
00:53:00.740 an
00:53:01.200 applied
00:53:01.700 mathematical
00:53:02.360 guy
00:53:02.760 to
00:53:03.280 actually
00:53:03.600 becoming
00:53:04.040 a
00:53:04.280 behavioral
00:53:04.720 scientist
00:53:05.240 and
00:53:05.860 so
00:53:06.080 then
00:53:06.280 all
00:53:06.720 of
00:53:06.880 my
00:53:07.100 training
00:53:07.660 at
00:53:07.940 Cornell
00:53:08.380 was
00:53:09.580 largely
00:53:10.500 in
00:53:10.680 psychology
00:53:11.220 and
00:53:11.520 cognitive
00:53:11.880 studies
00:53:12.400 and so
00:53:12.760 on
00:53:12.940 and
00:53:13.420 so
00:53:13.640 my
00:53:14.120 doctoral
00:53:14.700 dissertation
00:53:15.120 so
00:53:15.380 there
00:53:15.540 I
00:53:15.640 got
00:53:15.840 an
00:53:16.020 MS
00:53:16.340 a
00:53:16.500 Master's
00:53:16.780 of
00:53:16.880 Science
00:53:17.120 and a
00:53:17.360 PhD
00:53:17.680 my
00:53:18.800 doctoral
00:53:19.220 dissertation
00:53:19.780 without
00:53:20.160 boring
00:53:20.520 your
00:53:20.700 audience
00:53:20.980 too
00:53:21.180 much
00:53:21.400 was
00:53:22.120 when
00:53:23.040 is
00:53:23.240 it
00:53:23.420 that
00:53:23.640 we
00:53:23.880 know
00:53:24.240 that
00:53:24.660 we
00:53:24.800 have
00:53:24.920 acquired
00:53:25.380 enough
00:53:25.780 information
00:53:26.420 to
00:53:27.120 stop
00:53:27.620 and
00:53:27.920 make
00:53:28.100 a
00:53:28.240 choice
00:53:28.560 and
00:53:29.360 so
00:53:29.480 I
00:53:29.600 think
00:53:29.720 that's
00:53:30.600 pretty
00:53:30.860 easy
00:53:31.480 to
00:53:31.660 understand
00:53:32.020 the
00:53:32.180 job
00:53:32.320 so
00:53:32.540 imagine
00:53:33.300 I'm
00:53:33.600 choosing
00:53:33.920 between
00:53:34.500 a
00:53:35.220 bunch
00:53:36.040 of
00:53:36.200 political
00:53:36.560 candidates
00:53:37.220 who
00:53:37.840 am I
00:53:38.060 going
00:53:38.180 to
00:53:38.280 vote
00:53:38.460 for
00:53:38.680 well
00:53:39.180 there's
00:53:39.440 an
00:53:39.640 infinite
00:53:40.280 amount
00:53:40.660 of
00:53:40.840 information
00:53:41.280 I
00:53:41.500 could
00:53:41.660 look
00:53:41.840 on
00:53:42.020 them
00:53:42.160 or
00:53:42.460 I'm
00:53:42.660 choosing
00:53:42.880 between
00:53:43.180 cars
00:53:43.580 or
00:53:43.760 I'm
00:53:43.900 choosing
00:53:44.120 between
00:53:44.560 girls
00:53:45.200 to
00:53:45.520 potentially
00:53:46.180 marry
00:53:46.520 I
00:53:47.460 don't
00:53:47.820 end
00:53:48.000 up
00:53:48.160 looking
00:53:48.400 at
00:53:48.580 all
00:53:48.820 of
00:53:48.940 the
00:53:49.060 possible
00:53:49.380 information
00:53:49.940 I
00:53:50.460 look
00:53:50.720 at
00:53:50.880 enough
00:53:51.220 information
00:53:51.840 so
00:53:52.320 that
00:53:52.480 one
00:53:52.720 point
00:53:52.960 I
00:53:53.100 say
00:53:53.400 you
00:53:53.920 know
00:53:54.000 what
00:53:54.140 I'm
00:53:54.280 ready
00:53:54.540 I'm
00:53:54.780 ready
00:53:54.920 to
00:53:55.080 buy
00:53:55.200 the
00:53:55.360 Mazda
00:53:55.660 right
00:53:56.360 so
00:53:56.520 what
00:53:56.700 I
00:53:56.860 studied
00:53:57.220 in
00:53:57.340 my
00:53:57.500 PhD
00:53:57.920 is
00:53:58.720 the
00:53:58.940 stopping
00:53:59.480 decision
00:54:00.080 and
00:54:00.480 the
00:54:00.820 stopping
00:54:01.240 meaning
00:54:01.580 I
00:54:01.940 stopped
00:54:02.340 acquiring
00:54:02.820 additional
00:54:03.260 information
00:54:03.740 and I'm
00:54:04.360 now
00:54:04.560 convinced
00:54:05.080 I'm
00:54:05.820 buying
00:54:06.080 the
00:54:06.280 Mazda
00:54:06.600 I'm
00:54:06.920 now
00:54:07.120 convinced
00:54:07.600 I'm
00:54:08.100 going
00:54:08.300 Donald Trump
00:54:08.960 I'm
00:54:09.340 now
00:54:09.520 convinced
00:54:09.960 I'm
00:54:10.280 so
00:54:10.860 I
00:54:11.060 study
00:54:11.320 what
00:54:11.520 called
00:54:18.580 very
00:54:19.020 technical
00:54:19.500 area
00:54:20.060 very
00:54:20.620 fancy
00:54:21.260 cognitive
00:54:21.780 psychology
00:54:22.280 experiments
00:54:22.800 and so
00:54:23.000 on
00:54:23.140 the
00:54:23.740 goal
00:54:24.020 was
00:54:24.300 to
00:54:24.480 then
00:54:24.640 apply
00:54:25.100 it
00:54:25.340 in
00:54:25.600 consumer
00:54:26.060 behavior
00:54:26.560 how
00:54:27.120 do
00:54:27.320 consumers
00:54:27.820 make
00:54:28.200 choices
00:54:28.680 okay
00:54:29.220 and that's
00:54:29.760 why I'm
00:54:30.080 housed
00:54:30.420 in a
00:54:30.920 business
00:54:31.160 school
00:54:31.480 okay
00:54:32.040 but in
00:54:33.660 the process
00:54:34.400 of
00:54:34.860 doing
00:54:35.780 my
00:54:36.020 PhD
00:54:36.600 in the
00:54:37.340 first
00:54:37.660 semester
00:54:38.040 of my
00:54:38.380 PhD
00:54:38.700 I was
00:54:39.720 taking
00:54:40.000 an
00:54:40.240 advanced
00:54:40.680 social
00:54:40.940 psychology
00:54:41.480 course
00:54:41.880 with a
00:54:42.360 professor
00:54:42.780 by the
00:54:43.040 name
00:54:43.240 of
00:54:43.400 Dennis
00:54:43.720 Regan
00:54:44.140 and
00:54:44.900 about
00:54:45.120 halfway
00:54:45.540 through
00:54:45.760 the
00:54:45.920 semester
00:54:46.340 he
00:54:46.720 assigned
00:54:47.280 a
00:54:47.700 book
00:54:47.940 to
00:54:48.600 the
00:54:48.960 class
00:54:49.380 a
00:54:49.820 book
00:54:50.080 which
00:54:53.080 would
00:54:55.360 end up
00:54:55.880 completely
00:54:56.460 altering
00:54:56.880 my
00:54:57.020 academic
00:54:57.360 career
00:54:57.760 the
00:54:58.540 book
00:54:58.780 was
00:54:59.040 titled
00:54:59.640 Homicide
00:55:00.360 which is
00:55:01.280 murder
00:55:01.660 it was
00:55:02.920 by two
00:55:03.580 evolutionary
00:55:04.580 psychologists
00:55:05.300 and I'll
00:55:07.400 explain in a
00:55:07.880 second what
00:55:08.200 that was
00:55:08.400 it was a
00:55:11.000 book looking
00:55:11.620 at patterns
00:55:12.500 of criminality
00:55:13.540 across
00:55:14.860 cultures
00:55:15.640 across
00:55:16.540 time
00:55:17.060 periods
00:55:17.580 and
00:55:18.300 then
00:55:18.600 and then
00:55:19.900 demonstrating
00:55:20.540 that there
00:55:21.260 are certain
00:55:21.880 universal
00:55:22.720 principles
00:55:23.420 that explain
00:55:24.920 why these
00:55:25.960 crimes happen
00:55:26.720 in their
00:55:27.260 form
00:55:27.600 and so
00:55:28.320 they were
00:55:28.780 applying
00:55:29.300 this evolutionary
00:55:30.520 lens
00:55:30.860 which I'll
00:55:31.260 explain
00:55:31.620 to study
00:55:32.920 criminality
00:55:33.760 and so I
00:55:34.440 had my
00:55:34.800 eureka
00:55:35.180 moment
00:55:35.520 I said
00:55:35.860 okay
00:55:36.140 I'm going
00:55:36.960 to apply
00:55:37.580 evolutionary
00:55:38.340 theory
00:55:38.940 to study
00:55:40.000 human
00:55:40.500 behavior
00:55:40.960 in general
00:55:41.500 and economic
00:55:42.580 and consumer
00:55:43.140 behavior
00:55:43.560 in particular
00:55:44.020 so I
00:55:44.380 ended up
00:55:44.760 founding
00:55:45.140 the field
00:55:45.780 of evolutionary
00:55:46.980 consumer
00:55:47.880 behavior
00:55:48.300 applying
00:55:49.060 evolutionary
00:55:50.340 biology
00:55:50.860 to study
00:55:51.380 consumer
00:55:51.740 behavior
00:55:52.140 but let me
00:55:52.900 can I go
00:55:53.560 back
00:55:53.780 yeah
00:55:54.000 yeah
00:55:54.160 of course
00:55:54.400 go
00:55:54.660 so what
00:55:56.100 would be
00:55:56.400 examples
00:55:56.920 of
00:55:57.540 patterns
00:55:59.020 of
00:55:59.220 criminality
00:55:59.880 that
00:56:00.500 would fit
00:56:01.280 under
00:56:01.560 evolutionary
00:56:02.060 framework
00:56:02.600 okay
00:56:03.180 so let's
00:56:03.700 do
00:56:03.940 I'll give you
00:56:04.460 two examples
00:56:04.980 and I'll
00:56:06.720 not put you
00:56:07.660 on the spot
00:56:08.040 but I
00:56:08.300 wonder what
00:56:08.720 you're going
00:56:09.020 to say
00:56:09.380 so what
00:56:10.060 do you
00:56:10.440 think
00:56:10.820 is the
00:56:11.540 number
00:56:11.920 one
00:56:12.320 predictor
00:56:13.120 of there
00:56:14.460 being
00:56:14.960 child
00:56:15.640 abuse
00:56:16.120 in a
00:56:16.540 home
00:56:16.800 if that
00:56:18.260 if the
00:56:18.860 father
00:56:19.240 if the
00:56:19.680 parent
00:56:19.960 was a
00:56:20.280 victim
00:56:20.540 right
00:56:21.220 okay
00:56:21.660 so then
00:56:22.080 when I
00:56:22.340 lecture
00:56:22.840 about this
00:56:23.340 in class
00:56:23.920 I will
00:56:24.400 go to
00:56:24.940 the board
00:56:25.380 and I
00:56:25.980 will
00:56:26.220 list
00:56:26.940 all of
00:56:27.560 the
00:56:27.800 explanations
00:56:28.660 so one
00:56:29.140 would be
00:56:29.600 father
00:56:30.460 was a
00:56:30.820 victim
00:56:31.060 two
00:56:31.540 might be
00:56:32.120 alcoholic
00:56:32.960 in the
00:56:33.380 home
00:56:33.640 three
00:56:33.980 might be
00:56:34.540 wrong
00:56:35.160 sign
00:56:35.440 in the
00:56:35.680 track
00:56:35.960 and all
00:56:36.500 of these
00:56:36.940 might have
00:56:38.060 some
00:56:38.680 predictive
00:56:39.420 value
00:56:39.980 in predicting
00:56:41.500 the likelihood
00:56:42.000 of there
00:56:42.300 being
00:56:42.500 child
00:56:42.740 abuse
00:56:42.980 what if
00:56:43.880 I told
00:56:44.320 you that
00:56:44.620 the actual
00:56:45.380 reason
00:56:45.940 is a
00:56:47.160 hundred
00:56:47.560 fold
00:56:48.200 more
00:56:48.800 predictive
00:56:49.380 than any
00:56:50.360 reason
00:56:50.680 that you'll
00:56:51.080 come up
00:56:51.420 with
00:56:51.620 now
00:56:51.920 just to
00:56:52.540 contextualize
00:56:53.360 what a
00:56:54.080 hundred
00:56:54.380 fold
00:56:54.740 means
00:56:55.160 usually
00:56:55.980 in science
00:56:58.020 let's say
00:56:58.520 you're checking
00:56:59.280 the efficacy
00:56:59.880 of a drug
00:57:00.560 if the
00:57:01.620 efficacy
00:57:01.980 of the
00:57:02.740 drug
00:57:03.080 versus a
00:57:03.720 placebo
00:57:04.120 effect
00:57:04.520 is 1.2
00:57:05.680 it means
00:57:06.320 that it's
00:57:06.980 20%
00:57:07.940 higher
00:57:09.680 efficacy
00:57:10.240 so 1
00:57:10.980 to 1.2
00:57:12.040 this effect
00:57:13.360 that I'm about
00:57:13.780 to talk about
00:57:14.180 is 1
00:57:14.740 to 100
00:57:15.640 so it's
00:57:16.960 orders of
00:57:17.880 magnitude
00:57:18.480 greater
00:57:19.480 than anything
00:57:20.580 you typically
00:57:21.220 see when
00:57:22.120 you're doing
00:57:22.580 science
00:57:23.120 having said
00:57:25.180 that
00:57:25.500 can you
00:57:26.060 you want
00:57:26.580 to revise
00:57:27.240 what you
00:57:27.720 think that
00:57:28.360 one factor
00:57:29.020 is
00:57:29.300 and by
00:57:31.160 the way
00:57:31.400 if you
00:57:31.740 don't
00:57:31.900 get it
00:57:32.200 don't
00:57:32.440 feel
00:57:32.620 bad
00:57:32.920 almost
00:57:33.280 nobody
00:57:33.620 gets it
00:57:34.040 once I
00:57:34.600 will tell
00:57:35.140 you it
00:57:35.600 you'll go
00:57:36.460 oh my god
00:57:37.320 the one
00:57:39.780 thing that
00:57:40.240 makes it
00:57:40.620 a hundred
00:57:40.920 times more
00:57:41.460 likely that
00:57:42.000 they're going
00:57:42.240 to be abusive
00:57:42.820 towards a
00:57:43.260 child
00:57:43.540 if they
00:57:45.040 follow
00:57:45.220 islam
00:57:45.640 if their
00:57:56.100 name's
00:57:56.320 mohammed
00:57:56.680 no
00:58:00.260 okay so
00:58:01.000 you ready
00:58:01.320 yeah go
00:58:01.840 on
00:58:02.100 if there's
00:58:03.880 a step
00:58:04.320 parent
00:58:04.800 in the
00:58:05.240 home
00:58:05.420 because it's
00:58:06.080 not his
00:58:06.320 kid
00:58:06.540 so that
00:58:09.060 increase
00:58:09.860 of course
00:58:10.460 because their
00:58:11.280 own father's
00:58:11.840 not going to
00:58:12.120 abuse their
00:58:12.480 own child
00:58:12.940 it's very
00:58:13.320 unlikely even
00:58:13.960 if they're
00:58:14.240 an abuser
00:58:14.740 that's less
00:58:15.660 likely so
00:58:16.220 there's going
00:58:16.480 to be if
00:58:16.800 there's a
00:58:17.080 step dad
00:58:17.480 that has
00:58:19.000 become known
00:58:19.860 in the
00:58:20.280 literature
00:58:20.720 in the
00:58:21.160 scientific
00:58:21.480 literature
00:58:21.940 as the
00:58:22.620 Cinderella
00:58:23.080 effect
00:58:23.640 because the
00:58:24.960 story of
00:58:26.660 Cinderella
00:58:27.020 which is a
00:58:28.000 universal
00:58:28.520 fable
00:58:29.160 the step
00:58:32.620 mother is
00:58:33.780 not
00:58:34.180 dispositionally
00:58:37.120 evil across
00:58:38.020 all her
00:58:38.580 children
00:58:38.980 just the
00:58:39.680 step child
00:58:40.040 she loves
00:58:41.880 her biological
00:58:42.540 children
00:58:43.080 can't stand
00:58:44.020 her step
00:58:44.780 daughter
00:58:45.080 now you
00:58:45.980 can show
00:58:46.660 that in
00:58:47.040 many animal
00:58:47.880 species
00:58:48.340 other than
00:58:49.140 humans
00:58:49.620 you have
00:58:50.220 the exact
00:58:50.580 same phenomenon
00:58:51.180 so for
00:58:51.560 example if
00:58:52.140 you take
00:58:52.600 a lion's
00:58:54.220 pride
00:58:54.860 well what
00:58:56.540 here's the
00:58:57.180 dynamic that
00:58:57.680 happens
00:58:57.980 usually the
00:58:58.820 lion pride
00:58:59.540 is held
00:59:00.720 together by
00:59:01.820 one or two
00:59:02.780 dominant males
00:59:04.320 they kick out
00:59:06.020 all the other
00:59:06.780 males who were
00:59:07.960 fathered who
00:59:08.660 were sired by
00:59:09.220 them once
00:59:10.080 they become
00:59:10.540 sexually
00:59:11.000 mature
00:59:11.600 so then
00:59:13.040 there are
00:59:13.400 all these
00:59:14.060 young
00:59:14.620 frustrated
00:59:15.440 young males
00:59:17.240 floating around
00:59:18.180 in nature
00:59:18.760 are going to
00:59:19.620 identify a
00:59:20.420 pride
00:59:20.740 go and
00:59:22.180 test the
00:59:23.380 resolve of
00:59:24.200 the dominant
00:59:24.720 males
00:59:25.160 usually they're
00:59:26.240 too young to
00:59:27.180 put up a
00:59:27.860 fight against
00:59:28.480 the big
00:59:29.220 males
00:59:29.600 but eventually
00:59:31.080 father time
00:59:32.820 catches up to
00:59:33.720 the males
00:59:34.860 those
00:59:35.740 dominant males
00:59:37.700 are then given
00:59:38.420 one of two
00:59:39.040 choices
00:59:39.400 either leave
00:59:41.140 peacefully
00:59:41.840 not unlike
00:59:43.800 Islam
00:59:44.220 leave peacefully
00:59:45.460 or suffer the
00:59:46.360 consequences
00:59:47.000 it ends up
00:59:48.400 finishing very
00:59:49.640 badly for those
00:59:50.600 males whether
00:59:51.240 they are killed
00:59:51.980 by the young
00:59:52.920 bucks or
00:59:53.640 whether they go
00:59:54.320 out into the
00:59:55.240 wild
00:59:55.560 that they're
00:59:56.800 all alone
00:59:57.340 and they die
00:59:58.140 emaciated
00:59:59.120 and so on
01:00:00.120 what do you
01:00:01.560 think when the
01:00:02.260 new incoming
01:00:03.120 males come
01:00:04.260 into the
01:00:04.740 pride is the
01:00:06.020 first act
01:00:06.980 that they do
01:00:07.520 what do I
01:00:09.020 think the
01:00:09.360 first act
01:00:09.800 when the
01:00:10.100 new incoming
01:00:10.640 come into
01:00:11.060 the pride
01:00:11.460 linking it
01:00:12.940 back to
01:00:13.680 the father
01:00:14.160 to the
01:00:14.520 stepfather
01:00:14.940 things
01:00:15.200 exactly
01:00:15.600 is to
01:00:17.600 abuse them
01:00:18.160 is that
01:00:19.180 they systematically
01:00:20.460 kill all
01:00:22.100 the cubs
01:00:22.560 so why
01:00:24.100 because in
01:00:25.420 the in the
01:00:26.240 lion pride
01:00:27.460 males do
01:00:29.360 invest in
01:00:30.740 their cubs
01:00:31.960 unlike other
01:00:33.320 feline species
01:00:34.260 where the males
01:00:35.340 only do a
01:00:36.220 copulation
01:00:36.700 they just
01:00:37.160 have sex
01:00:37.580 and then
01:00:37.820 they disappear
01:00:38.320 never to be
01:00:38.840 heard
01:00:39.020 in the male
01:00:39.900 pride
01:00:40.280 it's a
01:00:40.720 social
01:00:41.080 species
01:00:41.560 where the
01:00:42.420 males do
01:00:43.160 invest in
01:00:44.320 their pride
01:00:44.940 and their
01:00:45.420 kids
01:00:46.080 therefore it
01:00:47.400 doesn't make
01:00:47.800 evolutionary sense
01:00:48.880 for a male
01:00:50.400 to evolve
01:00:51.560 the ability
01:00:52.440 to just invest
01:00:53.620 in kids
01:00:54.200 that are not
01:00:54.740 his
01:00:55.060 so therefore
01:00:55.780 the first
01:00:56.340 thing I'm
01:00:56.720 going to do
01:00:57.300 is I'm going
01:00:57.800 to kill off
01:00:58.500 all the
01:00:59.540 cubs
01:00:59.860 they're not
01:01:01.420 mine
01:01:01.700 the females
01:01:02.740 by the way
01:01:03.260 are not very
01:01:03.840 happy about that
01:01:04.620 so they put
01:01:05.520 up I mean
01:01:06.080 female lionesses
01:01:07.320 are no
01:01:08.280 slouches
01:01:09.260 they actually
01:01:10.600 they do a lot
01:01:11.140 more work than
01:01:11.660 the males
01:01:12.040 they will put
01:01:13.140 up a fight
01:01:13.720 eventually they
01:01:14.900 lose that fight
01:01:15.780 the first thing
01:01:17.100 that they do
01:01:17.740 after those
01:01:18.680 new males
01:01:19.440 have killed
01:01:20.580 all of their
01:01:21.500 children
01:01:21.920 you know what
01:01:22.540 it is
01:01:22.840 they suddenly
01:01:24.320 go into
01:01:25.280 estrus
01:01:25.740 meaning they
01:01:26.220 become sexually
01:01:27.020 receptive
01:01:27.560 to the
01:01:28.480 one who's
01:01:29.180 killed
01:01:29.340 so I always
01:01:31.560 joke with my
01:01:32.220 students when
01:01:32.700 I'm teaching
01:01:33.120 them about
01:01:33.620 all of these
01:01:34.320 dynamics
01:01:35.620 I say you
01:01:36.540 know in the
01:01:36.920 human context
01:01:37.740 we bring
01:01:38.620 flowers and
01:01:39.500 chocolates and
01:01:40.300 we play very
01:01:40.980 white music
01:01:41.740 in the lion
01:01:42.660 context I get
01:01:44.000 you in the mood
01:01:44.660 by killing your
01:01:45.460 children
01:01:45.780 okay
01:01:46.440 now why am I
01:01:47.420 telling this whole
01:01:48.020 story because
01:01:48.600 there are many
01:01:49.240 many examples
01:01:50.040 including in the
01:01:50.820 human case
01:01:51.420 where if you
01:01:53.320 have heavy
01:01:54.280 investment by
01:01:55.560 both parents
01:01:56.500 they're not very
01:01:57.580 keen on investing
01:01:58.520 in children who
01:01:59.420 are not theirs
01:02:00.040 okay
01:02:00.620 so that was
01:02:02.040 the first
01:02:02.540 aha moment
01:02:03.500 wow this is so
01:02:04.460 powerful as an
01:02:05.480 explanation
01:02:05.920 the second one
01:02:06.980 this one might be
01:02:08.720 a bit easier to
01:02:09.600 for you to
01:02:10.520 predict
01:02:10.840 who do you
01:02:11.940 think across
01:02:12.860 the world
01:02:13.280 you could go to
01:02:13.960 an Amazonian
01:02:14.720 tribe in the
01:02:15.620 Amazonian jungle
01:02:16.360 who do you
01:02:16.960 think is the
01:02:18.240 singular most
01:02:19.340 dangerous person
01:02:20.680 in a woman's
01:02:21.540 life
01:02:21.840 is it
01:02:24.540 who do I
01:02:26.460 think is the
01:02:26.860 most dangerous
01:02:27.360 person in a
01:02:29.140 woman's life
01:02:29.560 yeah so it
01:02:30.080 could be in a
01:02:30.680 tribe in Africa
01:02:31.600 it could be in
01:02:32.780 the Amazon
01:02:33.280 it could be
01:02:33.900 who's the
01:02:34.260 biggest danger
01:02:34.760 to her
01:02:35.200 yeah
01:02:35.540 can you guess
01:02:37.080 is it a
01:02:38.240 serial killer
01:02:38.920 hiding in the
01:02:39.980 bushes trying to
01:02:40.980 rape you
01:02:41.440 is it
01:02:41.820 who is it
01:02:42.340 once I say
01:02:44.420 it you're gonna
01:02:44.840 get it
01:02:45.440 it's her
01:02:46.980 long-term
01:02:47.400 partner
01:02:47.820 it's her
01:02:49.300 husband
01:02:49.680 and that's the
01:02:50.640 same for everyone
01:02:51.180 so the biggest
01:02:52.460 threat to any
01:02:52.960 woman is her
01:02:53.500 husband
01:02:53.780 yeah and now
01:02:54.800 okay so that
01:02:55.400 once we've
01:02:56.000 established that
01:02:56.680 yep
01:02:56.920 what is the
01:02:58.020 main reason
01:02:59.180 that men
01:03:00.380 will typically
01:03:01.400 go into
01:03:02.160 a homicidal
01:03:03.400 rage
01:03:04.000 to the
01:03:05.980 boys of the
01:03:06.380 women
01:03:06.700 jealousy
01:03:07.420 jealousy
01:03:08.240 so either
01:03:09.260 because of
01:03:10.000 realized infidelity
01:03:11.680 or suspected
01:03:13.200 infidelity
01:03:14.000 that will drive
01:03:15.600 men
01:03:15.940 insane
01:03:16.880 right
01:03:17.700 now
01:03:18.200 why would you
01:03:19.900 have evolved
01:03:20.600 that
01:03:21.000 trait
01:03:21.820 because in the
01:03:23.180 human context
01:03:24.020 we are a
01:03:24.780 biparental species
01:03:25.700 meaning both
01:03:26.560 men and women
01:03:27.160 do invest
01:03:27.900 heavily in their
01:03:28.540 children
01:03:28.880 therefore men
01:03:30.000 are not going
01:03:31.040 to be your
01:03:31.680 ancestors and
01:03:32.500 mine are not
01:03:33.360 those who said
01:03:34.100 oh yes sweetie
01:03:34.880 go ahead and
01:03:35.640 have sex with
01:03:36.280 20 guys and
01:03:37.500 I'll be happy to
01:03:38.480 raise those
01:03:38.960 children on
01:03:39.680 behalf of
01:03:40.400 Tony the
01:03:40.960 sexy gardener
01:03:41.920 therefore we've
01:03:42.820 evolved the
01:03:43.800 emotional the
01:03:44.940 cognitive and
01:03:45.820 the behavioral
01:03:46.360 system to
01:03:47.580 not react well
01:03:49.040 to philandering
01:03:50.420 to portray
01:03:50.860 women
01:03:51.120 now by the
01:03:51.940 way people
01:03:53.140 mistakenly think
01:03:54.640 that when you
01:03:55.260 offer a
01:03:55.840 scientific
01:03:56.260 explanation for
01:03:57.560 domestic violence
01:03:58.580 you're justifying
01:04:00.020 it you're
01:04:00.720 condoning it
01:04:01.400 but only
01:04:02.000 imbeciles think
01:04:02.780 like that because
01:04:03.480 I usually retort
01:04:04.880 when somebody
01:04:05.440 says that
01:04:05.940 oh right so
01:04:07.420 when an oncologist
01:04:08.560 who studies
01:04:09.500 cancer gives
01:04:10.980 you the
01:04:11.280 explanation for
01:04:12.180 cancer he's
01:04:13.140 for cancer
01:04:14.280 he's pro
01:04:15.320 cancer he's
01:04:16.340 justifying
01:04:16.920 and this is all
01:04:17.620 factual and
01:04:18.220 backed up anyway
01:04:18.920 because if you're
01:04:19.400 looking at the
01:04:19.780 most it's
01:04:20.600 it's backed up
01:04:21.880 culture through
01:04:23.460 time period
01:04:24.280 that's the beauty
01:04:25.000 of evolutionary
01:04:25.440 so when I
01:04:26.540 saw the
01:04:27.240 explanatory power
01:04:29.300 of evolutionary
01:04:31.160 psychology
01:04:31.980 I said that's
01:04:33.480 what I'm going
01:04:33.860 to do with my
01:04:34.380 career and so
01:04:35.120 much of my
01:04:36.300 academic career
01:04:37.200 has been spent
01:04:38.300 applying those
01:04:40.300 evolutionary principles
01:04:41.540 to study human
01:04:42.880 behavior in general
01:04:43.940 it could be
01:04:44.660 made choice
01:04:45.280 it could be
01:04:45.900 gift giving
01:04:46.540 it could be
01:04:47.000 whatever
01:04:47.260 and so my
01:04:48.320 scientific research
01:04:49.640 is all over the
01:04:50.840 place but what
01:04:51.620 unites it is
01:04:52.920 always a commitment
01:04:54.260 to applying
01:04:55.040 evolutionary theory
01:04:56.360 to understand why
01:04:57.580 you do the
01:04:58.040 things that you
01:04:58.380 do
01:04:58.400 why people make
01:04:58.980 their decisions
01:04:59.580 and then so
01:05:01.560 and then you
01:05:02.880 how many years
01:05:04.580 studying you
01:05:04.960 how many years
01:05:05.940 studied you
01:05:06.080 so the total
01:05:07.020 university is 10
01:05:08.680 you've done 10
01:05:09.360 years
01:05:09.620 10 years
01:05:10.160 yeah
01:05:10.360 wow
01:05:10.700 so I got in
01:05:11.920 at around 18
01:05:12.820 19 and I
01:05:14.120 finished at
01:05:14.980 actually
01:05:15.820 tomorrow
01:05:17.300 June 21st
01:05:20.080 19
01:05:20.720 1994
01:05:21.480 I
01:05:22.860 switched from
01:05:24.220 mister
01:05:24.860 to doctor
01:05:25.880 and I
01:05:26.920 defended my
01:05:27.660 doctoral
01:05:28.040 dissertation
01:05:28.700 June 21st
01:05:30.880 1994
01:05:31.540 and then went
01:05:33.680 on to straight
01:05:34.220 away
01:05:34.520 straight away
01:05:36.120 I got a
01:05:36.840 professorship
01:05:37.440 which is
01:05:38.220 quite
01:05:38.740 how old are you
01:05:39.240 then so you're
01:05:39.840 29
01:05:40.380 29
01:05:40.800 so you've
01:05:41.780 studied till
01:05:42.240 you're 29
01:05:42.680 what's that
01:05:43.340 what's that like
01:05:43.820 studying till
01:05:44.240 you're 29
01:05:44.580 because you're
01:05:45.500 a student
01:05:45.840 till you're
01:05:46.140 29
01:05:46.440 I was a
01:05:47.160 student till
01:05:47.520 I was
01:05:47.680 29
01:05:47.960 the only
01:05:48.780 job I
01:05:49.560 had like a
01:05:50.240 substantive
01:05:50.600 job was
01:05:51.380 as a
01:05:51.900 research
01:05:52.400 assistant
01:05:52.880 so throughout
01:05:53.800 my education
01:05:54.760 I would get
01:05:55.440 these research
01:05:56.080 assistantship
01:05:56.940 that pay
01:05:57.460 that pay
01:05:58.180 and so for
01:05:59.480 example when I
01:05:59.900 went to
01:06:00.200 Cornell
01:06:00.480 I was fortunate
01:06:02.600 enough you know
01:06:03.220 because of my
01:06:03.800 academic record
01:06:04.640 to my tuition
01:06:06.260 was paid
01:06:07.040 my
01:06:07.980 yeah I
01:06:09.380 got a doctorate
01:06:10.560 fellowship
01:06:10.960 and so I
01:06:12.300 got the full
01:06:13.440 support
01:06:14.260 I didn't have
01:06:14.980 because as you
01:06:15.940 probably know
01:06:16.960 the cost
01:06:19.080 the tuition
01:06:19.740 to go to
01:06:20.820 these elite
01:06:21.600 certainly private
01:06:22.800 universities
01:06:23.440 prestigious universities
01:06:24.440 in the US
01:06:24.900 will bankrupt you
01:06:26.120 and so I was
01:06:27.060 lucky enough
01:06:27.620 you got sponsorship
01:06:28.320 because of your
01:06:28.780 intelligence
01:06:29.280 yeah
01:06:29.640 because of grades
01:06:30.380 so yeah
01:06:31.940 so I spent
01:06:32.540 10 years
01:06:33.000 and then
01:06:33.500 so when I
01:06:34.320 started at
01:06:34.980 29 as a
01:06:35.760 professor
01:06:36.140 so I didn't
01:06:36.860 have all the
01:06:37.620 white hair
01:06:38.420 I look
01:06:39.300 and I look
01:06:39.760 very very young
01:06:40.720 so when I
01:06:41.680 would walk
01:06:42.120 into class
01:06:42.960 so the
01:06:44.180 undergraduate
01:06:44.540 people think
01:06:44.920 you're a student
01:06:45.340 exactly
01:06:45.880 so here's
01:06:46.980 what I've
01:06:47.300 done
01:06:47.520 many
01:06:47.880 of course
01:06:48.700 I can't
01:06:49.060 do it
01:06:49.580 today
01:06:49.820 so I
01:06:50.800 would come
01:06:51.460 to class
01:06:52.140 I would
01:06:53.740 sit
01:06:55.100 amongst
01:06:55.880 the students
01:06:56.540 and I
01:06:58.120 would say
01:06:58.840 so this
01:06:59.900 is
01:07:00.080 what is this
01:07:00.760 this is
01:07:01.140 consumer
01:07:01.460 psychology
01:07:01.940 what did
01:07:02.940 you guys
01:07:03.160 hear about
01:07:03.500 this
01:07:03.720 the professor
01:07:04.700 oh I
01:07:07.180 don't know
01:07:07.480 I haven't
01:07:08.080 heard much
01:07:08.420 I heard
01:07:09.440 he's
01:07:09.720 kind of
01:07:10.060 an ass
01:07:10.420 no
01:07:10.640 no I
01:07:11.700 didn't
01:07:11.860 hear
01:07:12.080 anything
01:07:12.360 so I
01:07:12.720 would talk
01:07:13.220 then I
01:07:14.020 would get
01:07:14.440 up
01:07:14.760 stand in
01:07:15.200 front of
01:07:15.440 the class
01:07:15.540 and I
01:07:16.000 would just
01:07:16.280 smile at
01:07:16.700 the person
01:07:17.060 and they're
01:07:17.380 like oh
01:07:17.780 what an
01:07:18.240 asshole
01:07:18.560 but now of
01:07:20.640 course that
01:07:21.840 window is
01:07:22.360 gone because
01:07:22.980 I can't
01:07:23.440 pull off
01:07:23.920 being a
01:07:24.680 student
01:07:24.880 anymore
01:07:25.260 and was
01:07:26.880 you single
01:07:27.340 up to
01:07:28.120 29
01:07:28.500 I was
01:07:29.720 single
01:07:30.000 actually one
01:07:30.500 of the
01:07:30.700 reasons why
01:07:31.200 I came
01:07:31.580 back to
01:07:32.280 Montreal
01:07:33.160 is at
01:07:34.060 the time
01:07:34.380 I was
01:07:34.680 single
01:07:35.020 I had
01:07:36.060 gotten
01:07:36.600 so I
01:07:37.320 had gotten
01:07:37.700 a few
01:07:38.240 other
01:07:38.760 possible
01:07:39.720 offers
01:07:40.220 but the
01:07:40.980 most concrete
01:07:42.440 competing offer
01:07:43.820 to
01:07:44.720 Montreal
01:07:46.020 was a
01:07:47.400 professorship
01:07:48.000 in a city
01:07:50.280 in New York
01:07:51.180 State
01:07:51.620 that did not
01:07:53.620 seem very appealing
01:07:54.700 to me as a single
01:07:55.820 guy
01:07:56.160 so it became a lot
01:07:57.460 easier
01:07:57.940 it had all
01:08:01.860 it was in
01:08:02.580 I mean I guess
01:08:03.180 it doesn't matter
01:08:03.920 I'm mentioning it
01:08:04.400 now it's 30
01:08:05.260 years later
01:08:05.700 it was in
01:08:07.680 Rochester
01:08:08.320 New York
01:08:08.920 Rochester is
01:08:09.980 kind of a
01:08:10.820 gritty
01:08:11.280 blue collar
01:08:12.220 town so it's
01:08:12.720 got all the
01:08:13.340 problems of
01:08:14.340 a city
01:08:15.360 but none of
01:08:16.280 its cosmopolitan
01:08:17.840 benefits
01:08:18.140 it's not
01:08:19.120 London
01:08:19.620 London might
01:08:20.540 have problems
01:08:21.100 but it's
01:08:21.460 London
01:08:21.840 Montreal might
01:08:22.640 have problems
01:08:23.140 but it's
01:08:23.460 Montreal
01:08:23.860 so it's a
01:08:25.400 gritty
01:08:25.860 kind of
01:08:26.460 nasty town
01:08:27.360 I remember
01:08:28.180 when I asked
01:08:29.020 my hosts
01:08:30.420 the university
01:08:31.540 that had invited
01:08:32.140 me to speak
01:08:33.860 there
01:08:34.080 well what
01:08:35.360 what can a
01:08:36.040 young professor
01:08:37.680 do here
01:08:38.440 that's fun
01:08:39.660 and they said
01:08:40.340 oh well we've
01:08:40.940 got the Eastman
01:08:41.820 School of Music
01:08:43.100 which is some
01:08:44.380 you know
01:08:45.580 classical music
01:08:46.220 and I said
01:08:46.480 well
01:08:46.740 that's not
01:08:48.720 going to
01:08:49.100 take me
01:08:49.540 very far
01:08:50.120 in life
01:08:50.540 so I'm like
01:08:51.420 okay I'm out of
01:08:52.140 here let me
01:08:52.520 go back to my
01:08:52.980 shop
01:08:53.140 but I mean
01:08:53.840 in a sense
01:08:54.700 it was a
01:08:55.060 difficult decision
01:08:55.900 because the
01:08:56.600 starting salary
01:08:58.360 that I was
01:08:59.320 being offered
01:09:00.120 in Montreal
01:09:01.060 was almost
01:09:02.420 half as much
01:09:03.440 as what I
01:09:04.120 would have
01:09:04.380 made there
01:09:04.840 but I was
01:09:05.580 willing to
01:09:05.980 take that
01:09:06.380 hit
01:09:06.680 at least
01:09:07.120 to be back
01:09:07.560 in my
01:09:07.900 hometown
01:09:08.240 my family
01:09:09.220 was here
01:09:09.860 and it's
01:09:10.460 a lot more
01:09:10.840 cosmopolitan
01:09:11.460 here and so
01:09:11.960 I came back
01:09:12.380 to Montreal
01:09:12.760 and then you
01:09:14.520 come back
01:09:14.820 at what
01:09:15.040 30
01:09:15.320 29
01:09:17.080 and then
01:09:17.860 that fall
01:09:18.560 I turned
01:09:18.940 30
01:09:19.340 and straight
01:09:20.020 work
01:09:20.340 straight then
01:09:20.920 to being a
01:09:21.280 professor
01:09:21.520 straight being
01:09:22.140 a professor
01:09:22.660 so for
01:09:23.800 the viewers
01:09:24.640 who don't
01:09:25.060 know
01:09:25.440 being a
01:09:27.140 professor
01:09:27.480 is
01:09:27.920 yeah people
01:09:29.060 might think
01:09:29.440 they know
01:09:29.680 what it is
01:09:30.080 but it's
01:09:30.520 really I
01:09:31.260 mean there's
01:09:31.620 three elements
01:09:32.280 to being a
01:09:32.740 professor
01:09:33.080 there is
01:09:33.860 of course
01:09:34.600 the teaching
01:09:35.260 but the
01:09:36.140 teaching is
01:09:36.680 actually a
01:09:37.520 small part
01:09:38.520 a very very
01:09:39.440 small part
01:09:39.940 of what it
01:09:40.420 is to be a
01:09:41.000 professor
01:09:41.320 the main
01:09:42.000 part is
01:09:43.380 the research
01:09:44.140 you have to
01:09:45.120 publish a lot
01:09:46.420 you have to
01:09:47.640 so you're not
01:09:48.140 just teaching
01:09:48.560 people you have
01:09:49.040 to continually
01:09:49.460 publish academic
01:09:50.580 works
01:09:50.860 you have to
01:09:51.180 continuously
01:09:51.700 publish academic
01:09:52.800 works so much
01:09:53.980 so that after
01:09:55.120 a few years
01:09:55.760 publish the
01:09:56.240 studies
01:09:56.720 publish the
01:09:57.540 studies exactly
01:09:58.060 or in some
01:09:59.780 fields you can
01:10:00.420 also publish
01:10:01.160 books in
01:10:03.340 other fields
01:10:03.900 it has to be
01:10:04.700 just papers
01:10:06.180 and peer
01:10:06.700 reviewed journals
01:10:07.760 and so that at
01:10:08.760 the end of a
01:10:09.820 certain number of
01:10:10.540 years
01:10:10.860 you present a
01:10:12.940 dossier to the
01:10:13.980 tenure committee
01:10:14.660 and that dossier
01:10:15.760 will be made up
01:10:17.240 of how has
01:10:19.460 your teaching
01:10:20.000 been
01:10:20.320 were you a
01:10:21.180 well received
01:10:21.820 teacher
01:10:22.240 how was your
01:10:23.520 service
01:10:23.960 which committees
01:10:24.740 did you serve
01:10:25.320 on and so on
01:10:26.180 but by far the
01:10:27.420 most important
01:10:27.900 part is
01:10:28.820 what's your
01:10:30.080 research profile
01:10:30.900 which papers
01:10:32.080 have you published
01:10:32.840 how often
01:10:33.660 were you cited
01:10:34.340 which books
01:10:35.040 have you written
01:10:35.740 which conferences
01:10:37.980 have you presented
01:10:38.820 at
01:10:39.180 so you put
01:10:39.800 together this
01:10:40.380 massive dossier
01:10:41.500 of you know
01:10:42.600 hundreds of
01:10:43.260 pages long
01:10:44.220 of all of
01:10:45.360 your supporting
01:10:46.120 documents
01:10:46.680 it goes in
01:10:48.080 front of a
01:10:48.760 committee
01:10:49.260 and then it
01:10:50.400 goes through
01:10:50.760 different layers
01:10:51.380 of the university
01:10:52.200 and then they
01:10:53.380 decide either
01:10:54.180 they grant you
01:10:55.100 tenure
01:10:55.400 or they deny
01:10:57.100 you tenure
01:10:57.600 if they grant
01:10:58.800 you tenure
01:10:59.300 you usually
01:11:00.840 get a promotion
01:11:02.760 in your rank
01:11:03.680 of a professor
01:11:04.420 and you're
01:11:05.800 now secured
01:11:07.000 that you
01:11:07.820 can never
01:11:08.260 be fired
01:11:08.900 in other words
01:11:09.480 okay so you
01:11:10.720 have to do a
01:11:11.080 certain amount
01:11:11.400 of work to be
01:11:11.940 recognised
01:11:12.300 so then you
01:11:12.820 get that guarantee
01:11:13.500 so people are
01:11:14.160 working hard
01:11:14.780 and hard
01:11:15.080 and hard
01:11:15.400 to get the
01:11:15.740 guarantee
01:11:16.060 they can never
01:11:16.560 put their head
01:11:16.920 down
01:11:17.300 they're going
01:11:18.600 at it
01:11:19.100 they're trying
01:11:19.660 and hence
01:11:20.780 that's why you
01:11:21.240 have the term
01:11:21.780 publish or perish
01:11:23.300 you better publish
01:11:24.720 a lot or else
01:11:25.660 you're going to be
01:11:26.180 kicked out
01:11:26.620 if you're kicked
01:11:27.380 out
01:11:27.760 if you're denied
01:11:29.100 tenure
01:11:29.460 then you have
01:11:31.100 one year left
01:11:32.140 that you serve
01:11:33.340 and then you're
01:11:35.020 out
01:11:35.240 so then
01:11:35.660 you have to
01:11:36.740 either apply
01:11:37.600 to another
01:11:38.080 university
01:11:38.760 or some people
01:11:40.760 decide to leave
01:11:41.520 academia
01:11:42.040 of course
01:11:43.460 the likelihood
01:11:44.320 of being
01:11:44.880 granted tenure
01:11:45.740 varies
01:11:46.860 as a function
01:11:48.000 of the prestige
01:11:49.020 of the university
01:11:49.880 right so in
01:11:50.560 some universities
01:11:51.380 you better be
01:11:52.560 Isaac Newton
01:11:53.280 in order to be
01:11:54.440 granted tenure
01:11:55.360 in other universities
01:11:56.320 that are less
01:11:56.780 prestigious
01:11:57.200 you might publish
01:11:58.420 two or three
01:11:59.000 papers
01:11:59.400 and that might
01:11:59.980 be enough
01:12:00.380 to get you
01:12:00.840 through
01:12:01.100 the threshold
01:12:02.120 that they expect
01:12:03.000 of tenure
01:12:03.380 so I got
01:12:05.160 tenure
01:12:05.460 so I became
01:12:06.980 a professor
01:12:07.360 in 1994
01:12:08.100 I went up
01:12:10.260 for tenure
01:12:10.760 in 1999
01:12:11.680 I got tenure
01:12:13.660 and that moved
01:12:14.880 me from
01:12:15.400 so the first
01:12:16.480 the first rank
01:12:18.860 of a professor
01:12:19.600 is called
01:12:20.060 assistant professor
01:12:21.040 this doesn't mean
01:12:22.380 you're an assistant
01:12:23.220 to a professor
01:12:23.980 it's just the title
01:12:25.080 of professor
01:12:25.740 the next rank
01:12:27.400 is called
01:12:27.960 associate professor
01:12:29.080 and then the
01:12:30.620 final rank
01:12:31.620 is called
01:12:32.980 full professor
01:12:33.800 so I got
01:12:35.120 full professor
01:12:36.080 now also
01:12:36.840 many years ago
01:12:37.640 and then
01:12:39.180 even higher
01:12:40.040 than that
01:12:40.540 is what's called
01:12:41.260 the chair
01:12:42.000 full professor
01:12:43.320 this is usually
01:12:44.600 where you get
01:12:45.420 a endowment
01:12:46.580 that allows you
01:12:48.320 to do research
01:12:49.300 so let's suppose
01:12:50.420 you're a very
01:12:51.060 wealthy guy
01:12:51.860 and you decide
01:12:53.040 you want to
01:12:53.960 fund an endowment
01:12:55.820 at University of London
01:12:57.460 it's going to be
01:12:58.200 called the
01:12:58.780 Tommy Robinson
01:13:00.240 chair
01:13:00.980 in consumer psychology
01:13:03.260 so you give
01:13:04.040 three million dollars
01:13:04.980 and then
01:13:06.060 that endowment
01:13:07.980 generates some money
01:13:09.680 and then
01:13:10.500 if I get
01:13:11.160 appointed
01:13:11.640 to the
01:13:12.080 Tommy Robinson
01:13:13.100 chair
01:13:13.600 in consumer psychology
01:13:15.020 I hold
01:13:16.040 that chair
01:13:16.640 so I get
01:13:17.580 the money
01:13:18.900 that flows
01:13:20.500 out of that
01:13:21.040 endowment
01:13:21.500 to do my research
01:13:22.580 so that's the
01:13:23.700 highest level
01:13:24.620 it's a chair
01:13:25.320 professor
01:13:25.800 so for example
01:13:26.480 Isaac Newton
01:13:27.180 I think held
01:13:27.940 the Lucasian chair
01:13:29.820 of mathematics
01:13:30.600 at Cambridge
01:13:31.340 and so I
01:13:32.520 I got all those
01:13:33.620 I did all that
01:13:34.640 you got to a chair
01:13:35.420 I got to a chair
01:13:36.360 I held a chair
01:13:37.240 for 10 years
01:13:38.320 from 2008
01:13:39.980 to 2018
01:13:41.640 then when it
01:13:43.280 came to
01:13:43.920 renewing
01:13:44.620 that chair
01:13:45.460 and now
01:13:46.340 I had really
01:13:47.040 become
01:13:47.540 very outspoken
01:13:49.640 Gadsad
01:13:50.440 suddenly
01:13:51.480 that chair
01:13:52.780 was never
01:13:53.600 renewed again
01:13:54.380 ok
01:13:55.080 let's get on
01:13:56.380 to how you
01:13:56.660 become outspoken
01:13:57.560 was you political
01:14:00.260 in those early
01:14:01.620 years
01:14:01.900 at university
01:14:02.660 so
01:14:04.180 I mean
01:14:05.160 I never
01:14:06.600 refrained
01:14:07.440 from speaking
01:14:08.800 out
01:14:09.360 but
01:14:10.520 my original
01:14:12.660 forays
01:14:13.780 into the
01:14:14.320 public sphere
01:14:15.200 at first
01:14:16.220 was very much
01:14:17.000 tied
01:14:17.480 directly
01:14:18.920 to my
01:14:19.320 scientific work
01:14:20.220 but already
01:14:21.040 there
01:14:21.480 I was already
01:14:22.120 starting to see
01:14:23.060 the parasitic
01:14:23.740 ideas
01:14:24.360 flourishing
01:14:25.420 how
01:14:25.820 because
01:14:26.940 it may or may not
01:14:27.780 surprise you to
01:14:28.520 know that
01:14:29.500 for most
01:14:30.540 social scientists
01:14:31.620 applying biology
01:14:34.140 is basically
01:14:35.420 you're a Nazi
01:14:36.120 because for most
01:14:37.460 social scientists
01:14:38.120 what makes us human
01:14:39.520 is that we
01:14:40.540 transcend our
01:14:41.460 biology
01:14:42.020 right
01:14:42.580 biology matters
01:14:43.940 for the mosquito
01:14:45.120 biology matters
01:14:46.440 for your dog
01:14:47.240 biology matters
01:14:48.420 for the zebra
01:14:49.040 but how dare you
01:14:50.420 but how dare you
01:14:50.440 say
01:14:50.660 Professor Saad
01:14:51.480 that biology
01:14:52.180 matters for
01:14:52.780 consumers
01:14:53.240 we're cultural
01:14:54.060 animals
01:14:54.560 professor
01:14:55.000 we transcend
01:14:55.720 our biology
01:14:56.540 bullshit
01:14:57.000 right
01:14:57.760 you don't
01:14:58.480 you don't
01:14:58.840 escape your
01:14:59.360 biology
01:14:59.760 so at first
01:15:01.160 I started
01:15:02.160 seeing that
01:15:02.860 there was a lot
01:15:03.400 of blowback
01:15:04.220 within academia
01:15:05.500 to my work
01:15:06.740 in evolutionary
01:15:07.340 psychology
01:15:07.940 because the
01:15:08.860 social scientists
01:15:09.720 simply were not
01:15:11.380 willing to accept
01:15:12.100 and even
01:15:13.100 until today
01:15:13.580 many of them
01:15:14.080 are not willing
01:15:14.800 to accept
01:15:15.280 that the same
01:15:16.420 mechanisms
01:15:17.040 that explain
01:15:17.920 how the
01:15:19.100 salamander mates
01:15:20.240 or how the
01:15:21.080 lion mates
01:15:21.800 or how the
01:15:22.580 crow mates
01:15:23.200 is exactly
01:15:24.160 the same principle
01:15:25.060 that drives
01:15:26.280 main choice
01:15:27.020 in the human
01:15:27.520 context
01:15:28.020 I mean evolution
01:15:28.920 doesn't operate
01:15:29.960 on every single
01:15:30.820 species
01:15:31.300 except one
01:15:32.240 called humans
01:15:32.900 so that's
01:15:35.100 when I first
01:15:35.720 started seeing
01:15:36.460 hmm
01:15:36.980 we've got a lot
01:15:37.940 of parasitic
01:15:38.620 bullshit going
01:15:39.380 on in academia
01:15:40.100 so that was
01:15:40.940 my first
01:15:41.620 sort of
01:15:42.960 this is pissing
01:15:43.980 me off
01:15:44.360 I mean
01:15:44.680 these are
01:15:45.340 these are
01:15:45.860 colleagues that
01:15:46.360 should be smart
01:15:47.300 and they're
01:15:48.100 buffoons
01:15:48.520 so that was
01:15:49.660 my first
01:15:50.380 sort of
01:15:51.240 let me
01:15:52.660 start fighting
01:15:53.400 all this nonsense
01:15:54.040 but then I
01:15:55.260 quickly realized
01:15:56.280 that those
01:15:56.860 parasitic ideas
01:15:57.900 were in every
01:15:59.420 corner where I
01:16:00.200 turn
01:16:00.420 so for example
01:16:01.000 post-modernism
01:16:02.060 right
01:16:02.900 post-modernism
01:16:04.340 purports that
01:16:05.000 there are no
01:16:05.620 absolute truths
01:16:06.820 everything is
01:16:08.140 subjective
01:16:08.540 everything is
01:16:09.240 relative
01:16:09.600 right
01:16:10.120 and that's
01:16:10.540 taught in
01:16:10.920 every humanities
01:16:11.720 department
01:16:12.220 and in many
01:16:12.820 of the social
01:16:13.600 science field
01:16:14.220 but what do
01:16:14.920 you mean
01:16:15.040 there are no
01:16:15.580 objective truths
01:16:16.540 then how could
01:16:17.020 you do science
01:16:17.640 right
01:16:18.160 now science
01:16:19.080 recognizes that
01:16:20.220 a truth
01:16:21.320 is provisional
01:16:22.220 what we thought
01:16:22.960 was true
01:16:23.700 300 years ago
01:16:24.800 in light of
01:16:25.680 new incoming
01:16:26.220 evidence
01:16:26.680 we revise it
01:16:27.520 so science
01:16:28.980 is humble
01:16:29.540 it recognizes
01:16:30.440 that you
01:16:31.180 don't have
01:16:31.600 it only
01:16:32.540 religion has
01:16:33.640 revealed truths
01:16:34.420 it's the truth
01:16:35.320 and you can
01:16:35.920 never deviate
01:16:36.740 in science
01:16:37.900 we recognize
01:16:38.560 that what we
01:16:39.040 thought was
01:16:39.560 true we
01:16:40.060 thought that
01:16:40.540 the sun
01:16:41.360 revolves around
01:16:42.200 the earth
01:16:42.760 but then we
01:16:43.720 suddenly
01:16:44.240 but the church
01:16:46.140 wasn't happy
01:16:46.760 when Galileo
01:16:47.460 was saying it
01:16:48.260 right
01:16:48.720 he didn't have
01:16:49.340 tenure
01:16:49.640 and they said
01:16:50.700 you know
01:16:51.760 just because
01:16:52.300 you're Galileo
01:16:52.940 we're not gonna
01:16:53.460 burn you at the
01:16:54.600 stake but you're
01:16:55.160 under house arrest
01:16:55.920 stop saying
01:16:56.480 this bullshit
01:16:56.980 and then people
01:16:57.860 said no no
01:16:58.360 it's true
01:16:58.840 it's the earth
01:16:59.420 revolves around
01:17:00.120 the sun
01:17:00.460 but we do
01:17:01.980 recognize that
01:17:02.920 there are
01:17:03.480 real truths
01:17:04.500 to be discovered
01:17:05.340 whereas post-modernism
01:17:06.880 says there's no
01:17:07.660 such thing
01:17:08.080 there's not a
01:17:08.900 single absolute
01:17:09.640 truth
01:17:10.140 everything is
01:17:10.960 relative
01:17:11.260 so then
01:17:12.980 in my entire
01:17:14.740 30 year career
01:17:16.020 it led me
01:17:17.120 to then
01:17:17.660 writing the
01:17:18.140 parasitic mind
01:17:18.900 because then I
01:17:19.540 said my goodness
01:17:20.860 if people only
01:17:21.980 knew some of
01:17:23.180 the nonsense
01:17:23.720 that I see
01:17:24.500 every day
01:17:25.000 within academia
01:17:25.760 why do you
01:17:26.820 think there is
01:17:27.480 that nonsense
01:17:27.900 within academia
01:17:28.660 why do you
01:17:29.460 think
01:17:29.600 do you think
01:17:30.160 it's to do
01:17:30.960 with people's
01:17:32.700 own political
01:17:34.000 beliefs as well
01:17:34.760 yeah that's
01:17:35.580 a fantastic
01:17:36.160 question
01:17:36.620 yeah that's a
01:17:37.620 wonderful question
01:17:38.100 and I do
01:17:39.060 address it in the
01:17:39.760 parasitic mind
01:17:40.320 so I argue
01:17:41.200 that what
01:17:42.360 unites all of
01:17:43.700 those parasitic
01:17:44.360 ideas
01:17:44.860 is originally
01:17:46.700 a noble goal
01:17:48.560 which then
01:17:50.080 metastasizes
01:17:52.240 into killing
01:17:53.340 the truth
01:17:54.060 in the pursuit
01:17:55.040 of that noble
01:17:55.700 goal
01:17:55.960 so take for
01:17:56.660 example
01:17:57.040 feminism
01:17:58.180 equity feminism
01:18:00.160 makes sense
01:18:01.140 equity feminism
01:18:02.080 says hey
01:18:02.640 there should be
01:18:03.980 no reason
01:18:04.640 why men
01:18:05.740 should make
01:18:06.660 more money
01:18:07.320 than women
01:18:07.860 as an
01:18:08.500 institutional
01:18:09.180 fiat
01:18:11.840 men and
01:18:12.760 women
01:18:12.960 should be
01:18:13.420 equal
01:18:13.720 under the
01:18:14.120 law
01:18:14.320 well by
01:18:15.140 that
01:18:15.540 definition
01:18:16.180 of
01:18:16.420 feminism
01:18:16.860 you and
01:18:17.740 I would
01:18:18.080 call ourselves
01:18:18.760 feminists
01:18:19.220 yeah of course
01:18:19.700 I believe
01:18:20.120 that men and
01:18:20.580 women should
01:18:20.880 be treated
01:18:21.240 equal under
01:18:21.700 the law
01:18:22.000 then radical
01:18:23.300 feminists
01:18:23.800 came along
01:18:24.400 and said
01:18:25.800 well it's not
01:18:26.480 enough for us
01:18:27.100 to argue
01:18:27.580 that men and
01:18:28.140 women should
01:18:28.500 be equal
01:18:28.960 under the
01:18:29.500 law
01:18:29.760 we should
01:18:30.540 argue
01:18:30.920 that men
01:18:31.400 and women
01:18:31.840 are indistinguishable
01:18:33.620 from each
01:18:34.180 other
01:18:34.480 because then
01:18:35.300 that would
01:18:35.660 allow us
01:18:36.180 to eradicate
01:18:37.180 the sexist
01:18:37.820 status quo
01:18:38.520 we should
01:18:39.260 argue that
01:18:40.060 anything that
01:18:41.200 men desire
01:18:42.480 to do
01:18:43.040 should be
01:18:43.460 no different
01:18:44.100 than what
01:18:44.800 women
01:18:45.200 desires are
01:18:46.740 ladies
01:18:47.660 burn your
01:18:48.340 bras
01:18:48.840 if men
01:18:49.820 want to
01:18:50.280 have
01:18:50.640 unattached
01:18:51.960 unemotional
01:18:52.860 sex
01:18:53.380 and they
01:18:53.800 seek it
01:18:54.320 there is
01:18:54.920 no reason
01:18:55.540 why you
01:18:56.020 shouldn't
01:18:56.280 have that
01:18:56.700 exact same
01:18:57.260 desire
01:18:57.700 now
01:18:58.440 women
01:18:59.220 have also
01:18:59.920 evolved
01:19:00.300 the desire
01:19:00.820 to have
01:19:01.400 variety
01:19:02.120 seeking
01:19:02.540 in their
01:19:02.860 sexual
01:19:03.220 pursuits
01:19:03.740 but we
01:19:04.540 again
01:19:05.560 a three
01:19:06.140 day old
01:19:06.960 pigeon
01:19:07.280 knows
01:19:07.660 that the
01:19:08.560 penchant
01:19:09.380 for sexual
01:19:10.000 variety
01:19:10.400 seeking
01:19:10.720 is not
01:19:11.260 the same
01:19:11.640 for men
01:19:12.020 and women
01:19:12.360 as a matter
01:19:12.800 of fact
01:19:13.020 studies have
01:19:13.840 been done
01:19:14.200 in 60
01:19:15.300 plus societies
01:19:16.200 that are
01:19:16.840 very different
01:19:17.420 from each
01:19:17.800 other
01:19:18.020 and nothing
01:19:18.840 could be
01:19:19.280 clearer
01:19:19.660 than the
01:19:20.100 fact that
01:19:20.480 there are
01:19:20.920 certain
01:19:21.360 incontestable
01:19:22.380 differences
01:19:22.820 between men
01:19:23.400 and women
01:19:23.760 when it
01:19:24.100 comes to
01:19:24.420 mating
01:19:24.620 behavior
01:19:25.140 what do
01:19:25.460 you mean
01:19:25.640 so
01:19:26.260 for example
01:19:28.000 seeking
01:19:28.780 variety
01:19:29.460 in mates
01:19:30.020 so if you
01:19:30.900 ask men
01:19:31.520 what is the
01:19:32.340 average number
01:19:32.960 of sexual
01:19:33.400 partners
01:19:33.960 in an ideal
01:19:34.800 world
01:19:35.100 you'd love
01:19:35.420 to have
01:19:35.940 and you
01:19:36.360 ask women
01:19:36.860 the same
01:19:37.200 question
01:19:37.600 there is
01:19:38.080 no culture
01:19:38.740 where women
01:19:39.700 give
01:19:40.700 women always
01:19:42.700 want less
01:19:43.140 exactly
01:19:43.600 now that
01:19:44.000 doesn't mean
01:19:44.440 that women
01:19:44.900 don't desire
01:19:45.780 sexual
01:19:46.220 variety
01:19:46.580 it's not
01:19:47.100 it's not
01:19:48.020 it's not
01:19:48.660 the prudish
01:19:49.300 Victorian idea
01:19:50.220 that women
01:19:50.760 are these
01:19:51.260 sweet little
01:19:52.200 chased flowers
01:19:53.160 and only men
01:19:54.440 are the
01:19:54.960 Neanderthals
01:19:55.660 there are
01:19:56.200 actually very
01:19:56.820 good evolutionary
01:19:57.920 explanations
01:19:58.500 for why
01:19:59.120 women
01:19:59.520 are actually
01:20:00.600 quite
01:20:01.360 promiscuous
01:20:02.240 in their
01:20:02.700 sexual
01:20:03.380 interests
01:20:03.940 but we
01:20:05.020 certainly
01:20:05.440 know
01:20:05.880 that men
01:20:06.640 and women
01:20:06.960 are not
01:20:07.480 indistinguishable
01:20:08.600 from each
01:20:08.980 other
01:20:09.280 social
01:20:10.100 constructivism
01:20:11.000 which is
01:20:11.560 the idea
01:20:11.960 that all
01:20:12.720 differences
01:20:13.180 are due
01:20:13.640 to social
01:20:14.080 construction
01:20:14.640 argues that
01:20:16.040 no
01:20:16.320 any difference
01:20:17.640 between men
01:20:18.140 and women
01:20:18.540 must have
01:20:19.200 been because
01:20:19.780 of sexist
01:20:21.120 parental
01:20:21.540 upbringing
01:20:22.080 it must be
01:20:22.820 because of
01:20:23.240 socialization
01:20:23.940 and advertising
01:20:24.760 it must be
01:20:25.420 because of
01:20:25.780 the Hollywood
01:20:26.220 images that
01:20:26.920 you see
01:20:27.240 in movies
01:20:27.760 none of
01:20:28.920 it is due
01:20:29.460 to innate
01:20:30.240 differences
01:20:30.740 now the
01:20:31.640 average person
01:20:32.380 that you
01:20:32.720 grew up
01:20:33.100 with in
01:20:33.440 Luton
01:20:33.820 who is
01:20:34.220 smarter
01:20:34.580 than most
01:20:35.040 professors
01:20:35.540 would say
01:20:36.080 what kind
01:20:36.520 of bullshit
01:20:36.840 is this
01:20:37.380 but academics
01:20:38.420 want to
01:20:39.440 create a
01:20:40.260 utopian
01:20:40.700 world
01:20:41.180 I call it
01:20:42.320 unicornia
01:20:43.220 so in the
01:20:44.060 service of
01:20:44.620 unicornia
01:20:45.360 if we have
01:20:46.000 to murder
01:20:46.520 and rape
01:20:46.980 truth
01:20:47.400 so be it
01:20:48.260 so that
01:20:49.000 explains the
01:20:49.680 reason why
01:20:50.280 all of those
01:20:51.000 idiotic ideas
01:20:52.640 flourish
01:20:53.040 because they
01:20:53.860 come with
01:20:54.800 this kind of
01:20:55.360 utopian view
01:20:56.440 of where
01:20:57.340 they're trying
01:20:58.060 to get
01:20:58.340 they're trying
01:20:58.960 to get
01:20:59.220 they're making
01:21:01.080 a suit
01:21:01.440 to get
01:21:01.700 there
01:21:01.900 exactly
01:21:02.520 that's
01:21:03.220 exactly
01:21:03.520 right
01:21:03.800 because even
01:21:04.600 when we got
01:21:04.940 into covid
01:21:05.420 i think one
01:21:05.840 of the sage
01:21:06.260 advisors in
01:21:07.920 Britain
01:21:08.860 when you
01:21:10.040 looked was a
01:21:10.560 communist
01:21:10.980 member of the
01:21:11.500 communist party
01:21:12.240 so asking if
01:21:13.180 they're actually
01:21:13.600 basing it on
01:21:14.220 science or
01:21:14.820 basing it on
01:21:15.420 their own
01:21:16.620 politics
01:21:17.140 and it is
01:21:19.180 based on
01:21:19.640 ideology and
01:21:20.440 politics right
01:21:20.980 by the way
01:21:22.000 speaking of
01:21:22.720 communism
01:21:23.280 E.O.
01:21:24.040 Wilson
01:21:24.440 who is
01:21:25.320 he just
01:21:26.180 recently passed
01:21:26.840 away
01:21:27.120 he was a
01:21:28.460 harvard
01:21:28.980 biologist
01:21:29.900 who was
01:21:31.860 specifically
01:21:32.540 an expert
01:21:33.240 on social
01:21:33.860 ants
01:21:34.240 the reason
01:21:35.120 why i'm
01:21:35.400 telling that
01:21:35.780 story because
01:21:36.180 i'm going to
01:21:36.440 link it to
01:21:36.840 communism in
01:21:37.400 a second
01:21:37.580 social ants
01:21:39.060 have a
01:21:39.620 unique
01:21:40.240 social structure
01:21:42.320 social ants
01:21:43.160 as in
01:21:43.580 as in
01:21:44.420 literally
01:21:44.740 ants
01:21:45.140 now there's
01:21:46.640 social ants
01:21:47.260 in that they
01:21:47.740 build communities
01:21:48.980 right
01:21:49.240 that community
01:21:50.360 is usually
01:21:51.360 made up of
01:21:52.200 a single
01:21:52.860 reproductive
01:21:53.720 queen
01:21:54.200 and then
01:21:55.520 an indistinguishable
01:21:58.120 mass of
01:21:59.460 worker and
01:22:00.560 warrior ants
01:22:01.900 that are all
01:22:02.980 indistinguishable
01:22:04.700 parts there is
01:22:05.460 a singular
01:22:06.400 queen and
01:22:07.540 all the rest
01:22:08.100 of you are
01:22:08.540 one mush
01:22:09.400 right
01:22:09.840 why am i
01:22:11.080 saying this
01:22:11.460 because when
01:22:11.980 E.O.
01:22:12.360 Wilson was
01:22:13.120 asked
01:22:13.600 professor
01:22:14.720 Wilson what
01:22:15.340 do you think
01:22:15.800 about socialism
01:22:17.180 slash communism
01:22:18.540 he said
01:22:19.520 wonderful idea
01:22:21.160 wrong species
01:22:22.560 beautiful
01:22:24.760 pithy
01:22:25.820 statement
01:22:26.940 why
01:22:27.320 what he's
01:22:28.120 basically saying
01:22:29.000 is when
01:22:30.160 you are
01:22:30.720 trying to
01:22:31.360 impose a
01:22:32.320 political or
01:22:33.080 economic system
01:22:34.120 on humans
01:22:35.040 it has to be
01:22:36.280 consistent with
01:22:37.380 human nature
01:22:38.060 humans are
01:22:39.240 not social
01:22:39.800 ants
01:22:40.160 social ants
01:22:41.340 are communists
01:22:42.620 because we're
01:22:44.020 all equal
01:22:44.800 we want to
01:22:46.380 be better
01:22:46.720 right
01:22:47.220 some of us
01:22:48.420 are taller
01:22:48.980 some of us
01:22:49.740 are shorter
01:22:50.220 some of us
01:22:50.980 are lean
01:22:51.380 and messy
01:22:51.880 some of us
01:22:52.660 are not
01:22:53.100 some of us
01:22:54.000 are intelligent
01:22:54.680 some of us
01:22:55.340 are not
01:22:55.720 some of us
01:22:56.460 are ambitious
01:22:56.900 some of us
01:22:57.740 are not
01:22:58.100 so now
01:22:58.760 diversity
01:22:59.240 inclusion
01:22:59.740 equity
01:23:00.120 comes along
01:23:00.840 one of the
01:23:02.040 biggest cancers
01:23:02.860 to the human
01:23:03.500 spirit
01:23:03.900 and says
01:23:04.480 hey
01:23:04.740 anytime
01:23:05.660 there is a
01:23:06.520 difference
01:23:07.020 in outcomes
01:23:08.500 it can't be
01:23:10.560 because humans
01:23:11.780 are heterogeneous
01:23:12.740 beings
01:23:13.420 because of race
01:23:14.340 it's because of race
01:23:15.520 because of transphobia
01:23:16.420 because of Islam
01:23:17.040 phobia
01:23:17.400 because of
01:23:17.880 indigenous
01:23:18.240 because of
01:23:18.800 bullshit
01:23:19.120 and so on
01:23:20.300 therefore
01:23:21.000 we will
01:23:21.880 institute
01:23:22.600 mechanisms
01:23:23.320 to create
01:23:24.180 equality
01:23:24.760 because remember
01:23:25.640 we're not human
01:23:26.380 beings
01:23:26.740 we're worker
01:23:27.620 ants
01:23:28.000 so you're
01:23:29.000 exactly right
01:23:29.740 that many
01:23:30.200 of these
01:23:30.620 ideas
01:23:31.240 evolve and
01:23:33.120 flourish
01:23:33.660 out of
01:23:34.040 academia
01:23:34.560 because of
01:23:35.680 the ideological
01:23:36.840 rapture
01:23:37.720 of the
01:23:38.160 professors
01:23:38.620 because not
01:23:39.160 not
01:23:39.400 if I see a
01:23:39.980 statistic in
01:23:40.440 the UK
01:23:40.680 90%
01:23:41.460 90%
01:23:42.360 of the
01:23:42.540 professors
01:23:43.240 at universities
01:23:43.980 are on the
01:23:45.720 left
01:23:46.040 so is that
01:23:47.820 a march
01:23:48.100 through the
01:23:48.380 institutions
01:23:48.860 would you
01:23:49.240 say that
01:23:49.620 the people
01:23:49.980 have got
01:23:50.320 into those
01:23:50.760 positions
01:23:51.240 of academia
01:23:52.200 in order to
01:23:53.460 have an
01:23:53.740 influence
01:23:54.240 so I think
01:23:54.820 you're being
01:23:55.380 you're being
01:23:55.960 charitable
01:23:56.440 and saying
01:23:56.940 it's 90%
01:23:57.820 okay
01:23:58.320 so I
01:23:58.920 actually cite
01:23:59.960 several studies
01:24:01.320 in the parasitic
01:24:02.240 mind
01:24:02.620 where the
01:24:04.200 studies
01:24:04.620 specifically
01:24:05.680 look at
01:24:06.400 the political
01:24:07.060 orientation
01:24:07.780 of professors
01:24:09.000 and in
01:24:10.040 some fields
01:24:10.880 you couldn't
01:24:12.860 make up
01:24:13.560 data like
01:24:14.300 this
01:24:14.560 so it'll
01:24:15.040 be
01:24:15.240 so
01:24:16.000 across all
01:24:19.000 disciplines
01:24:19.540 it might be
01:24:20.700 about 10 to
01:24:21.700 one
01:24:22.040 but that
01:24:24.280 actually
01:24:24.980 understates
01:24:26.360 the problem
01:24:27.260 because in
01:24:28.280 fields like
01:24:28.900 engineering
01:24:29.640 or the
01:24:30.480 business school
01:24:31.200 which are
01:24:32.320 these are
01:24:32.820 disciplines that
01:24:33.560 are wedded to
01:24:34.280 reality
01:24:34.840 right
01:24:35.160 you can't
01:24:36.020 build a
01:24:36.740 bridge
01:24:37.220 using
01:24:38.000 postmodernist
01:24:38.960 physics
01:24:39.360 because the
01:24:40.520 bridge will
01:24:41.040 collapse
01:24:41.580 you can't
01:24:42.860 build a
01:24:43.620 model of
01:24:44.480 the economy
01:24:45.180 using
01:24:46.160 postmodernist
01:24:47.340 economics
01:24:47.980 because the
01:24:49.020 economy will
01:24:49.660 go wrong
01:24:50.080 right
01:24:50.440 so because
01:24:51.460 some
01:24:51.960 disciplines
01:24:52.460 are more
01:24:53.060 wedded to
01:24:53.560 reality
01:24:54.100 they're less
01:24:55.060 parasitized
01:24:55.900 and therefore
01:24:56.620 there is a bit
01:24:57.580 of a more
01:24:58.240 equitable
01:24:59.260 political
01:24:59.940 orientation
01:25:00.560 across the
01:25:01.220 professors
01:25:01.560 but I say
01:25:02.380 equitable
01:25:02.880 because even
01:25:03.860 in those
01:25:04.400 fields
01:25:04.820 it'll be a
01:25:05.920 lot more
01:25:06.400 to the left
01:25:06.980 than to the
01:25:07.400 right
01:25:07.620 but now
01:25:08.280 as you go
01:25:09.140 down the
01:25:09.700 disciplines
01:25:10.220 and you get
01:25:11.380 to the more
01:25:12.000 activist
01:25:12.620 disciplines
01:25:13.220 you're talking
01:25:14.640 about
01:25:15.080 138
01:25:17.060 to 0
01:25:17.920 120
01:25:19.760 to 1
01:25:20.980 as in
01:25:21.640 138
01:25:22.480 left wing
01:25:22.860 professors
01:25:23.300 to 0
01:25:23.900 exactly
01:25:24.340 on the
01:25:24.620 right
01:25:24.800 so in
01:25:25.080 other words
01:25:25.580 and they're
01:25:25.960 in the
01:25:26.580 professorships
01:25:27.580 where they're
01:25:28.000 teaching the
01:25:28.440 next generation
01:25:29.140 exactly
01:25:29.540 and they're
01:25:29.980 teaching the
01:25:30.460 next generations
01:25:31.220 in domains
01:25:32.640 where it
01:25:33.740 would make
01:25:34.480 pedagogic
01:25:35.780 sense
01:25:36.280 that you
01:25:36.880 hear both
01:25:37.480 sides of
01:25:37.960 the story
01:25:39.660 right
01:25:39.960 so they
01:25:40.480 should be
01:25:40.780 getting the
01:25:41.080 left and
01:25:41.380 the right
01:25:41.640 but they're
01:25:41.900 just getting
01:25:42.160 the left
01:25:42.460 exactly
01:25:42.940 now in
01:25:43.800 some
01:25:44.000 disciplines
01:25:44.520 if you're
01:25:45.240 teaching
01:25:45.840 evolutionary
01:25:46.340 psychology
01:25:46.880 there is
01:25:47.440 no left
01:25:47.860 or right
01:25:48.260 I'm going
01:25:48.740 to teach
01:25:49.200 you the
01:25:49.900 evolutionary
01:25:50.400 principles
01:25:51.020 that led
01:25:51.960 to why
01:25:52.680 men exhibit
01:25:53.660 sexual
01:25:54.200 territoriality
01:25:55.000 there is
01:25:55.320 no left
01:25:55.660 right
01:25:55.900 but in
01:25:56.660 other
01:25:56.960 disciplines
01:25:57.640 fiscal
01:25:58.860 policy
01:25:59.780 immigration
01:26:02.020 policy
01:26:03.080 is the
01:26:04.560 death penalty
01:26:05.280 moral or
01:26:06.120 not
01:26:06.380 well there
01:26:06.840 are compelling
01:26:07.600 arguments
01:26:08.260 on both
01:26:08.960 sides of
01:26:09.320 the equation
01:26:09.720 and if I
01:26:10.440 am someone
01:26:11.160 who is
01:26:11.500 teaching the
01:26:11.960 next generations
01:26:12.580 of politicians
01:26:13.280 maybe I
01:26:14.280 want to hear
01:26:14.820 both sides
01:26:15.320 of the equation
01:26:15.760 so I can
01:26:16.240 really start
01:26:16.980 forming an
01:26:17.840 opinion as
01:26:18.360 to whether
01:26:18.680 the death
01:26:19.100 penalty is
01:26:19.620 moral or
01:26:20.140 not
01:26:20.340 whether there
01:26:21.060 should be
01:26:21.420 open borders
01:26:22.040 or not
01:26:22.460 but there
01:26:23.240 isn't such
01:26:23.700 a thing
01:26:23.960 so therefore
01:26:24.400 what do you
01:26:24.780 get you
01:26:25.080 get almost
01:26:26.020 a hundred
01:26:26.600 percent
01:26:27.160 ideological
01:26:27.940 rapture
01:26:28.520 from the
01:26:28.880 professors
01:26:29.340 who then
01:26:30.180 walk into
01:26:30.740 class
01:26:31.220 they exhibit
01:26:32.140 zero
01:26:33.280 epistemic
01:26:35.340 humility
01:26:36.240 right
01:26:36.760 this is an
01:26:37.360 opportunity
01:26:37.680 so that
01:26:38.700 means being
01:26:39.760 humble about
01:26:40.480 what you know
01:26:41.100 and what you
01:26:41.540 don't know
01:26:42.000 being
01:26:42.360 they're just
01:26:43.360 pushing
01:26:43.620 oh I've
01:26:44.920 got an
01:26:45.240 opportunity
01:26:45.740 to brainwash
01:26:46.820 these next
01:26:47.700 generation
01:26:48.120 of idiots
01:26:49.160 let me use
01:26:50.160 the pulpit
01:26:50.640 to do that
01:26:51.260 and therefore
01:26:52.200 let me teach
01:26:53.100 them that
01:26:53.620 socialism is
01:26:54.780 great
01:26:55.060 let me teach
01:26:55.620 them that
01:26:56.080 whiteness is
01:26:58.000 evil
01:26:58.520 the patriarchy
01:26:59.400 men are toxic
01:27:00.500 and so on
01:27:01.080 so then what
01:27:01.820 do you expect
01:27:02.480 the future
01:27:03.020 generation of
01:27:03.740 politicians to
01:27:04.400 be
01:27:04.580 they're called
01:27:05.340 Justin Trudeau
01:27:06.580 right
01:27:06.760 I don't think
01:27:07.860 Justin Trudeau
01:27:08.660 was born
01:27:09.380 maybe I'll be
01:27:10.140 charitable
01:27:10.420 but was born
01:27:11.220 dispositionally
01:27:12.460 evil
01:27:12.820 but he is
01:27:13.820 an exact
01:27:14.460 product
01:27:15.120 of the
01:27:15.680 education
01:27:16.100 so he
01:27:17.140 literally is
01:27:17.800 a walking
01:27:18.380 manifestation
01:27:18.960 of every
01:27:20.240 parasitic
01:27:20.780 idea that I
01:27:21.500 discuss in the
01:27:22.120 parasitic
01:27:22.500 line
01:27:22.800 he just apes
01:27:23.760 it
01:27:23.920 he's a
01:27:24.620 zombie
01:27:24.960 he's the
01:27:25.780 wood cricket
01:27:26.420 who's been
01:27:27.200 zombified
01:27:27.720 so in your
01:27:29.140 30 years of
01:27:30.080 education
01:27:30.700 in universities
01:27:32.720 would you say
01:27:34.340 it's education
01:27:35.380 or indoctrination
01:27:36.360 in what you've
01:27:37.580 witnessed as a
01:27:38.260 professor and
01:27:39.180 your fellow
01:27:39.660 colleagues
01:27:40.260 are they
01:27:41.100 educating
01:27:41.600 or are they
01:27:42.780 indoctrinating
01:27:43.440 so because
01:27:44.120 I'm housed
01:27:45.020 in the
01:27:45.280 business school
01:27:45.860 because I
01:27:46.520 teach things
01:27:47.120 like consumer
01:27:47.740 psychology
01:27:48.340 and evolutionary
01:27:49.100 psychology
01:27:49.720 and psychology
01:27:50.280 of decision
01:27:50.740 making
01:27:51.080 I don't see
01:27:52.460 it with my
01:27:53.100 students
01:27:53.520 and by the way
01:27:54.120 I'm very
01:27:54.540 disciplined
01:27:55.060 as a professor
01:27:55.800 in that I
01:27:56.740 never bring in
01:27:57.880 my outside
01:27:59.420 public intellectual
01:28:00.900 activities into
01:28:01.740 the classroom
01:28:02.340 in other words
01:28:02.840 I don't
01:28:03.620 I don't go
01:28:05.100 on a tirade
01:28:05.980 against the
01:28:06.640 policies of
01:28:07.380 Justin Trudeau
01:28:08.300 in your
01:28:09.000 classroom
01:28:09.280 evolutionary
01:28:09.680 psychology
01:28:10.040 therefore you
01:28:10.780 can't come
01:28:11.380 after me
01:28:12.080 saying that
01:28:13.040 I am
01:28:13.320 indoctrinating
01:28:14.060 you
01:28:14.340 because I
01:28:15.000 recognize that
01:28:15.780 you signed
01:28:16.440 up to learn
01:28:17.280 about evolutionary
01:28:17.880 psychology with
01:28:18.660 me
01:28:18.860 and that's what
01:28:20.200 I mean by
01:28:20.680 being humble
01:28:21.640 I have this
01:28:23.520 privilege to be
01:28:24.680 able to be
01:28:25.220 training students
01:28:26.220 how to think
01:28:27.440 not what to
01:28:28.460 think
01:28:28.680 so I'll teach
01:28:29.560 you about the
01:28:30.040 scientific method
01:28:30.920 I'll teach you
01:28:31.840 about how to
01:28:32.420 conduct statistical
01:28:33.460 analyses
01:28:34.060 to understand
01:28:35.220 data
01:28:35.700 to make
01:28:36.460 better consumer
01:28:37.480 decisions
01:28:38.320 and so on
01:28:38.780 I won't
01:28:39.980 indoctrinate
01:28:40.600 you
01:28:40.780 now do
01:28:41.200 other people
01:28:41.780 do it
01:28:42.160 not so much
01:28:43.180 at the
01:28:43.440 business school
01:28:44.080 again because
01:28:45.520 teaching finance
01:28:46.720 is teaching
01:28:47.160 finance
01:28:47.420 there's no
01:28:48.980 ideological push
01:28:49.940 on that
01:28:50.240 exactly
01:28:50.640 but
01:28:51.320 the other
01:28:51.900 people who
01:28:52.300 have gone
01:28:52.540 to the
01:28:52.780 positions
01:28:53.140 of teaching
01:28:53.980 that
01:28:54.280 they can
01:28:55.440 and they
01:28:56.800 are
01:28:57.040 absolutely
01:28:58.160 which we're
01:28:58.980 seeing
01:28:59.260 the consequence
01:29:00.280 of now
01:29:00.800 exactly
01:29:01.420 and how has
01:29:03.620 university changed
01:29:04.660 if you've been in
01:29:05.380 that if you've
01:29:06.100 been in the
01:29:06.480 university for
01:29:07.100 30 years
01:29:07.700 how has it
01:29:08.100 changed from
01:29:08.520 when you
01:29:08.700 started to
01:29:09.220 where we're
01:29:09.720 at now
01:29:10.000 where are
01:29:10.360 we at now
01:29:10.700 oh wow
01:29:11.180 what a great
01:29:11.740 question
01:29:12.060 it is so
01:29:13.580 bad
01:29:14.180 that you
01:29:16.000 couldn't find
01:29:16.880 a more
01:29:17.340 prototypical
01:29:18.440 professor than
01:29:19.880 me it's in
01:29:20.380 my DNA
01:29:20.900 what's that
01:29:21.200 mean
01:29:21.380 like an
01:29:22.820 exemplar of
01:29:23.800 somebody who's
01:29:24.480 always was
01:29:25.420 meant to be
01:29:26.000 a professor
01:29:26.600 earlier I said
01:29:27.660 I've only
01:29:28.220 wanted to be
01:29:28.680 two things
01:29:29.040 soccer player
01:29:29.500 as a child
01:29:31.080 and now
01:29:32.520 I'm thinking
01:29:33.220 I still have
01:29:34.480 a long way
01:29:35.400 to go
01:29:35.680 knock on wood
01:29:36.280 if I wanted
01:29:36.960 to stay in
01:29:37.360 academia
01:29:37.760 and I'm
01:29:38.880 feeling like
01:29:39.520 it's time
01:29:40.500 for me to
01:29:41.000 leave
01:29:41.320 because it's
01:29:42.520 so painful
01:29:44.800 to be in
01:29:45.260 academia
01:29:45.620 so let me
01:29:46.000 give you
01:29:46.240 concrete
01:29:46.800 examples of
01:29:47.360 that
01:29:47.580 so usually
01:29:50.580 when you
01:29:50.940 want to
01:29:51.480 do research
01:29:52.380 you will
01:29:53.020 apply for
01:29:54.260 research grants
01:29:55.440 there are
01:29:56.160 many different
01:29:56.780 sources for
01:29:57.620 how you can
01:29:58.060 get that
01:29:58.360 money
01:29:58.580 but the
01:29:59.200 typical
01:29:59.780 grantor
01:30:01.300 will be
01:30:02.200 the government
01:30:02.860 so there
01:30:03.460 are programs
01:30:05.600 set up
01:30:06.440 pools of
01:30:07.560 money
01:30:07.880 that if I
01:30:08.720 want to do
01:30:09.140 studying
01:30:09.800 how do
01:30:11.280 hormones affect
01:30:12.180 economic
01:30:12.940 decision making
01:30:13.720 I'll put
01:30:14.460 together this
01:30:15.100 big grant
01:30:15.760 over the next
01:30:17.560 five years
01:30:18.100 I need
01:30:18.600 $400,000
01:30:19.740 here are the
01:30:20.560 reasons why
01:30:21.040 I need it
01:30:21.720 and so on
01:30:22.100 and then
01:30:22.420 hopefully I
01:30:23.020 win that
01:30:23.380 amount
01:30:23.640 and I
01:30:24.860 now have
01:30:25.380 $400,000
01:30:26.180 for the
01:30:26.620 next five
01:30:26.980 years to
01:30:27.300 do this
01:30:27.600 research
01:30:27.880 I can
01:30:28.200 hire
01:30:28.580 doctoral
01:30:29.320 students
01:30:29.740 I can
01:30:30.040 hire
01:30:30.320 postdoc
01:30:30.960 I can
01:30:31.240 hire
01:30:31.480 undergrad
01:30:31.900 we can
01:30:32.600 learn these
01:30:33.000 studies and
01:30:33.380 so on
01:30:33.680 well a
01:30:35.600 few years
01:30:36.060 ago the
01:30:36.520 Canadian
01:30:36.800 government
01:30:37.280 decided
01:30:38.060 and my
01:30:39.440 university
01:30:40.000 and all
01:30:40.620 other
01:30:40.880 universities
01:30:41.400 that it
01:30:42.220 is you
01:30:43.080 have to
01:30:43.820 write a
01:30:45.520 I call it
01:30:46.300 a die
01:30:46.700 statement
01:30:47.160 I don't
01:30:47.820 do DEI
01:30:48.540 I don't
01:30:48.820 do diversity
01:30:49.360 inclusion
01:30:49.860 equity
01:30:50.320 I do
01:30:50.920 diversity
01:30:52.220 inclusion
01:30:54.120 equity
01:30:54.480 so the
01:30:55.320 acronym is
01:30:55.860 die
01:30:56.240 because
01:30:56.880 that's
01:30:58.120 where
01:30:58.420 meritocracy
01:30:59.360 and excellence
01:30:59.780 die
01:31:00.620 so you
01:31:02.220 have to
01:31:02.580 as part
01:31:04.040 of
01:31:04.280 to get
01:31:06.240 that grant
01:31:06.740 you've got
01:31:07.820 to fit in
01:31:08.340 with this
01:31:08.840 idea
01:31:09.280 how can I
01:31:09.780 write a
01:31:10.240 book called
01:31:10.960 parasitic
01:31:11.560 mind
01:31:12.000 where I
01:31:12.700 rail against
01:31:13.760 the cancer
01:31:14.600 of diversity
01:31:15.400 inclusion
01:31:15.800 equity
01:31:16.340 and then
01:31:17.120 when no
01:31:17.540 one is
01:31:17.920 looking
01:31:18.460 so from
01:31:19.760 this side
01:31:20.140 of the
01:31:20.340 mouth
01:31:20.600 I'll say
01:31:21.020 that die
01:31:21.500 is a
01:31:22.220 cancer
01:31:22.600 but then
01:31:23.340 from this
01:31:23.720 side of
01:31:24.020 my mouth
01:31:24.420 when nobody
01:31:24.820 is looking
01:31:25.200 I'll play
01:31:25.620 along
01:31:25.980 then I
01:31:26.420 will be
01:31:26.720 a false
01:31:27.120 person
01:31:27.540 then I
01:31:28.100 will be
01:31:28.320 inauthentic
01:31:28.960 so guess
01:31:29.540 what I've
01:31:29.860 done
01:31:30.060 Tommy
01:31:30.400 I've
01:31:30.880 stopped
01:31:31.140 applying
01:31:31.540 for grants
01:31:32.080 because you
01:31:33.000 wouldn't
01:31:33.240 get the
01:31:34.060 grants
01:31:34.460 unless you
01:31:35.160 were
01:31:35.320 here's
01:31:37.420 my
01:31:37.620 you want
01:31:38.060 me to
01:31:38.280 tell you
01:31:38.460 what my
01:31:38.700 die
01:31:38.860 statement
01:31:39.180 is
01:31:39.440 die
01:31:40.240 statement
01:31:40.820 is a
01:31:41.360 cancer
01:31:41.840 that is
01:31:42.340 an
01:31:42.460 affront
01:31:42.800 to human
01:31:43.240 dignity
01:31:43.660 please
01:31:44.240 give me
01:31:44.580 $400,000
01:31:45.380 explain
01:31:46.220 what die
01:31:46.620 is
01:31:46.840 to someone
01:31:47.380 sitting
01:31:47.620 here
01:31:47.780 diversity
01:31:48.260 includes
01:31:48.820 to just
01:31:49.420 explain
01:31:49.980 what that
01:31:50.840 ideology
01:31:51.240 is
01:31:51.580 that's
01:31:52.200 being
01:31:52.380 pushed
01:31:52.740 across
01:31:53.160 the
01:31:53.400 West
01:31:53.660 so
01:31:53.980 it
01:31:55.160 goes
01:31:55.360 back
01:31:55.540 to
01:31:55.640 what
01:31:55.740 we
01:31:55.820 talked
01:31:56.000 about
01:31:56.180 earlier
01:31:56.480 which
01:31:56.760 is
01:31:57.000 if
01:31:57.440 there
01:31:57.720 are
01:31:58.240 differences
01:31:59.940 in
01:32:00.640 outcomes
01:32:01.300 those
01:32:02.100 differences
01:32:02.640 are
01:32:03.160 inherently
01:32:03.840 due
01:32:04.340 to
01:32:04.740 nefarious
01:32:05.340 reasons
01:32:05.760 to bad
01:32:06.660 things
01:32:07.020 that
01:32:07.140 happen
01:32:07.380 racism
01:32:08.000 right
01:32:08.460 so
01:32:09.080 why
01:32:09.800 aren't
01:32:10.260 there
01:32:10.520 as
01:32:10.840 many
01:32:11.320 indigenous
01:32:12.160 people
01:32:12.920 studying
01:32:13.600 mathematics
01:32:14.280 aha
01:32:15.020 Canada
01:32:16.420 is
01:32:17.040 systematically
01:32:18.300 keeping
01:32:19.340 down
01:32:19.700 indigenous
01:32:20.160 people
01:32:20.740 from
01:32:21.280 studying
01:32:21.680 mathematics
01:32:22.240 therefore
01:32:22.980 I
01:32:23.580 your
01:32:24.040 benevolent
01:32:24.680 government
01:32:25.140 must
01:32:25.580 come in
01:32:26.060 and make
01:32:26.520 sure
01:32:26.740 let me
01:32:27.060 see the
01:32:27.400 count
01:32:27.720 there
01:32:28.220 needs
01:32:28.480 to be
01:32:28.820 at least
01:32:29.380 73
01:32:30.520 professors
01:32:31.300 who are
01:32:31.860 indigenous
01:32:32.320 right
01:32:33.280 oh
01:32:33.920 how come
01:32:34.800 there aren't
01:32:35.240 enough
01:32:35.560 black
01:32:36.160 there must
01:32:36.840 be that
01:32:37.160 why aren't
01:32:37.660 there enough
01:32:38.100 transgender
01:32:38.660 how come
01:32:39.100 there isn't
01:32:39.500 a single
01:32:40.040 transgender
01:32:40.660 person of
01:32:41.880 color
01:32:42.180 who's a
01:32:42.580 neuroscientist
01:32:43.360 at
01:32:43.520 Concordia
01:32:44.040 oh that
01:32:44.580 must be
01:32:44.880 a problem
01:32:45.260 so diversity
01:32:46.180 inclusion
01:32:46.720 equity
01:32:47.280 is the
01:32:48.200 noble
01:32:48.840 framework
01:32:49.440 that tries
01:32:50.400 to redress
01:32:51.280 those wrongs
01:32:52.160 which is where
01:32:52.580 people are being
01:32:53.080 promoted based
01:32:53.920 on their race
01:32:54.440 or sexual
01:32:54.840 religion
01:32:55.000 when not on
01:32:56.120 their work
01:32:56.800 exactly
01:32:57.140 so if you
01:32:58.140 remember earlier
01:32:58.840 when I said
01:32:59.500 when you apply
01:33:00.360 for tenure
01:33:00.920 you have a
01:33:01.860 dossier of
01:33:02.400 300 pages
01:33:03.160 long
01:33:03.560 that doesn't
01:33:04.540 say what
01:33:05.180 my sexual
01:33:05.700 orientation
01:33:06.140 is
01:33:06.680 that doesn't
01:33:07.500 say what
01:33:08.800 my skin
01:33:09.440 you is
01:33:10.060 that doesn't
01:33:10.660 say where
01:33:11.900 I stand
01:33:12.360 on LGBTQ
01:33:13.180 it says
01:33:14.260 here is
01:33:14.860 what I've
01:33:15.260 done
01:33:15.540 judge me
01:33:16.500 on my
01:33:16.800 merits
01:33:17.160 well now
01:33:17.900 we don't
01:33:18.240 longer do
01:33:18.760 that
01:33:18.980 now
01:33:19.600 the top
01:33:20.720 universities
01:33:21.320 in Canada
01:33:21.960 and by the way
01:33:22.860 you would think
01:33:23.420 that those are
01:33:24.020 satirical pieces
01:33:25.160 that God's
01:33:25.800 side is coming
01:33:26.360 up with
01:33:26.720 to take the
01:33:27.220 piss out of
01:33:27.640 people
01:33:27.880 University of
01:33:29.760 Waterloo
01:33:30.360 which is
01:33:31.160 a
01:33:32.120 university
01:33:33.040 that is
01:33:33.360 very well
01:33:33.980 known for
01:33:34.680 its engineering
01:33:35.480 and computer
01:33:36.020 science
01:33:36.280 it's kind of
01:33:36.680 like the
01:33:37.000 MIT of
01:33:37.900 Canada
01:33:38.280 or the
01:33:39.080 Caltech
01:33:39.540 of Canada
01:33:40.140 well they
01:33:41.160 recently had
01:33:41.900 a call
01:33:42.480 for a
01:33:43.500 Canada
01:33:44.060 research
01:33:44.800 chaired
01:33:45.260 professor
01:33:45.700 so that's
01:33:46.320 the highest
01:33:46.980 possible
01:33:47.600 chaired
01:33:47.980 professorship
01:33:48.600 because it's
01:33:49.380 the Canadian
01:33:49.940 government
01:33:50.520 that is
01:33:51.260 downing that
01:33:52.120 chair
01:33:52.320 so it's
01:33:52.640 a very
01:33:53.120 prestigious
01:33:53.700 chair
01:33:54.540 it was
01:33:56.320 for a
01:33:56.980 chaired
01:33:57.320 professorship
01:33:58.100 in artificial
01:33:59.220 intelligence
01:34:00.120 one of the
01:34:00.900 fields of
01:34:01.380 computer science
01:34:02.120 and it
01:34:03.180 said
01:34:03.720 that the
01:34:04.720 people
01:34:05.160 who apply
01:34:06.000 for it
01:34:06.500 must be
01:34:07.460 non-binary
01:34:09.200 what's the
01:34:11.780 other one
01:34:12.160 transgender
01:34:13.520 or
01:34:14.540 what's the
01:34:15.400 other one
01:34:15.900 two-spirit
01:34:17.360 what's
01:34:19.420 two-spirit
01:34:19.900 oh two-spirit
01:34:21.300 means
01:34:21.760 so non-binary
01:34:23.000 is I'm
01:34:23.900 neither
01:34:24.340 not man
01:34:25.640 or man
01:34:26.000 two-spirit
01:34:27.440 is I've got
01:34:28.260 elements of
01:34:29.460 both male
01:34:30.700 and female
01:34:31.440 in me
01:34:32.300 so I'm
01:34:32.680 not male
01:34:33.480 I'm not
01:34:34.220 female
01:34:34.780 I'm a
01:34:35.640 melange
01:34:36.500 of both
01:34:37.000 right
01:34:37.580 so it's
01:34:38.840 non-binary
01:34:39.600 transgender
01:34:40.260 so imagine
01:34:41.620 that the
01:34:42.140 most elite
01:34:43.380 engineering
01:34:44.160 schools in
01:34:44.940 Canada
01:34:45.360 with the
01:34:47.560 most
01:34:47.900 prestigious
01:34:48.940 professorship
01:34:49.920 in Canada
01:34:51.100 the endower
01:34:52.100 being the
01:34:52.560 Canadian
01:34:52.860 government
01:34:53.160 the only
01:34:53.380 person who's
01:34:53.820 getting that
01:34:54.160 seat
01:34:54.380 has got
01:34:54.880 a feet
01:34:55.400 in one
01:34:55.740 of those
01:34:56.060 brackets
01:34:56.440 it's
01:34:57.520 astounding
01:34:58.180 right
01:34:58.520 now I
01:34:59.520 guarantee you
01:35:00.160 that in
01:35:00.440 50 years
01:35:01.220 people will
01:35:01.980 look back
01:35:02.380 and say
01:35:02.680 how could
01:35:03.420 this have
01:35:03.820 ever come
01:35:04.320 to be
01:35:04.620 what kind
01:35:05.240 of ideological
01:35:06.060 ratio is
01:35:06.740 this or of
01:35:07.540 course they'll
01:35:07.940 pretend that
01:35:08.500 it never
01:35:08.820 happened
01:35:09.220 why is this
01:35:09.660 dangerous
01:35:10.060 it's a complete
01:35:12.260 attack on the
01:35:13.340 most foundational
01:35:14.400 values that
01:35:15.220 have made the
01:35:15.860 west the great
01:35:16.800 society that it
01:35:17.500 is right it's
01:35:18.000 individual dignity
01:35:19.220 it's individual
01:35:20.200 why do we have
01:35:21.460 a day called
01:35:22.120 Martin Luther King
01:35:23.240 Day I mean he
01:35:23.920 didn't say
01:35:24.320 something that
01:35:24.800 was so
01:35:25.140 astoundingly
01:35:25.860 profound
01:35:26.360 he said
01:35:27.820 remember the
01:35:28.440 I have a
01:35:28.880 dream
01:35:29.120 I don't
01:35:30.320 have the
01:35:30.620 exact
01:35:30.860 quote
01:35:31.100 but one
01:35:31.800 day I
01:35:32.120 hope that
01:35:32.960 might be
01:35:33.360 based
01:35:33.700 not on her
01:35:35.480 skin color
01:35:36.040 my daughter
01:35:36.560 but based
01:35:36.980 on her
01:35:37.260 that is
01:35:38.540 now racist
01:35:39.240 that is
01:35:39.900 literally
01:35:40.640 anti-dye
01:35:41.640 if Martin Luther
01:35:43.220 King were
01:35:44.300 to write
01:35:45.020 his I have
01:35:46.160 a dream
01:35:46.540 speech as
01:35:47.600 his die
01:35:48.240 statement
01:35:48.800 when applying
01:35:49.800 for a grant
01:35:50.520 he can't
01:35:51.720 get it
01:35:52.200 he's a
01:35:53.140 racist
01:35:53.660 so all
01:35:56.100 this to
01:35:56.400 say you
01:35:56.700 ask me
01:35:57.100 what do I
01:35:57.800 think of
01:35:58.200 academia
01:35:58.760 so I
01:36:00.260 have to
01:36:00.680 walk around
01:36:01.400 in this
01:36:01.760 hotbed of
01:36:02.380 bullshit
01:36:02.860 while always
01:36:04.400 now I
01:36:05.220 am to a
01:36:05.840 fault
01:36:06.160 authentic
01:36:06.880 and honest
01:36:08.040 maybe that's
01:36:08.940 why I
01:36:09.500 became
01:36:10.160 Gatshout
01:36:10.660 because I
01:36:11.020 tell it
01:36:11.500 like it
01:36:11.800 is
01:36:12.000 but it's
01:36:13.300 very hard
01:36:13.860 to walk
01:36:14.380 in that
01:36:14.700 ecosystem
01:36:15.240 and be
01:36:16.420 the authentic
01:36:17.280 guy that
01:36:17.720 you are
01:36:18.020 because you're
01:36:18.780 constantly
01:36:19.300 being coerced
01:36:21.000 into
01:36:21.620 scamming
01:36:23.320 what do you
01:36:24.600 mean
01:36:24.940 giving
01:36:25.440 now this
01:36:26.360 didn't happen
01:36:26.840 at my
01:36:27.140 university
01:36:27.560 but it
01:36:27.900 happened
01:36:28.180 at other
01:36:28.480 universities
01:36:28.900 where you
01:36:29.620 know there
01:36:29.880 is reparative
01:36:31.220 grading
01:36:31.840 don't grade
01:36:33.000 people based
01:36:34.180 on what they
01:36:34.660 got on their
01:36:35.120 exam
01:36:35.540 because you
01:36:36.880 owe them
01:36:37.280 reparations
01:36:38.120 right
01:36:38.560 by the way
01:36:39.080 that's
01:36:39.300 hold on
01:36:39.760 so at a
01:36:40.760 university
01:36:41.160 there's
01:36:41.940 grading
01:36:42.300 where a
01:36:43.140 white person
01:36:43.560 could have
01:36:43.780 a test
01:36:44.080 a black
01:36:44.340 person
01:36:44.580 could have
01:36:44.800 a test
01:36:45.020 and what
01:36:45.180 you're
01:36:45.280 saying is
01:36:45.660 that they
01:36:46.340 could get
01:36:46.920 equal marks
01:36:47.400 but a black
01:36:47.720 person would get
01:36:48.100 better marks
01:36:48.560 or for example
01:36:50.500 you'll have
01:36:51.740 even at the
01:36:52.660 entrance level
01:36:53.400 they have less
01:36:54.600 they have less of
01:36:54.720 an entrance level
01:36:55.280 to get into
01:36:55.580 the university
01:36:56.120 they can
01:36:56.640 not do as
01:36:57.840 well in
01:36:58.080 the exam
01:36:58.380 so they're
01:37:00.020 lowering the
01:37:00.380 level of
01:37:00.760 acceptance
01:37:01.180 just to
01:37:01.760 match their
01:37:02.420 rota figures
01:37:03.140 of how many
01:37:03.660 blacks
01:37:03.980 or how many
01:37:04.740 minorities
01:37:05.460 do you know
01:37:05.960 who Amy
01:37:06.240 Wax is
01:37:06.640 no
01:37:07.000 Amy Wax
01:37:08.060 was trained
01:37:09.020 as a
01:37:09.300 neurologist
01:37:10.060 a brain
01:37:10.860 physician
01:37:11.320 she decided
01:37:12.780 I don't do
01:37:13.980 medicine
01:37:14.380 went back
01:37:15.180 got a
01:37:16.040 law degree
01:37:16.840 became a
01:37:17.740 professor of
01:37:18.360 law
01:37:18.660 at University
01:37:19.700 of Pennsylvania
01:37:20.220 one of the
01:37:21.060 eight high duty
01:37:21.960 schools
01:37:22.360 she's gotten
01:37:23.580 into all kinds
01:37:24.180 of trouble
01:37:24.880 she came on
01:37:25.840 my show a few
01:37:26.300 years ago
01:37:26.760 because they
01:37:27.380 were trying
01:37:27.640 to cancel
01:37:28.000 her
01:37:28.240 because she
01:37:28.920 said things
01:37:29.620 like
01:37:29.960 well I'm
01:37:31.260 a law
01:37:31.560 professor
01:37:32.020 right
01:37:32.960 I see
01:37:35.220 the grades
01:37:36.280 of the
01:37:36.780 students
01:37:37.320 and consistently
01:37:38.780 the black
01:37:39.960 students are
01:37:40.620 doing worse
01:37:41.280 it wasn't a
01:37:42.160 racist
01:37:42.380 it was a
01:37:43.080 statement of
01:37:43.920 fact
01:37:44.340 well that was
01:37:45.540 marginalizing
01:37:46.240 that was racist
01:37:47.020 she needs to
01:37:47.720 be fired
01:37:48.260 right
01:37:48.880 in medical
01:37:50.560 schools
01:37:51.200 we now have
01:37:52.340 diversity
01:37:52.880 inclusion
01:37:53.280 equity
01:37:53.700 right
01:37:54.140 for example
01:37:55.000 which means
01:37:55.440 the quality
01:37:55.860 of the person
01:37:56.380 doing the job
01:37:56.940 is getting
01:37:57.220 less and less
01:37:57.900 which then
01:37:58.280 becomes a
01:37:58.700 danger
01:37:58.920 not only that
01:37:59.980 so now
01:38:00.500 we have
01:38:01.280 don't grade
01:38:02.620 medical students
01:38:03.620 because you know
01:38:04.300 it's very very
01:38:05.000 stressful to go
01:38:05.920 to medical school
01:38:06.660 and if you're
01:38:07.520 now going to
01:38:08.080 create a
01:38:08.600 competitive
01:38:09.040 hierarchy
01:38:09.760 it stresses
01:38:11.560 them more
01:38:12.120 because when I
01:38:13.120 have a trauma
01:38:14.140 surgeon who's
01:38:14.980 going to operate
01:38:15.740 on me
01:38:16.120 I want to make
01:38:16.700 sure that he's
01:38:17.360 a flower
01:38:18.120 child and
01:38:19.060 that he
01:38:19.320 wasn't too
01:38:20.160 scared during
01:38:20.960 his medical
01:38:21.420 training
01:38:21.860 so what
01:38:22.900 diversity
01:38:23.760 inclusion
01:38:24.240 equity
01:38:24.660 does
01:38:25.060 is it
01:38:25.760 takes all
01:38:26.700 of the
01:38:27.260 laudable
01:38:28.040 traits
01:38:28.860 that we
01:38:29.660 valued
01:38:30.240 until 15
01:38:31.040 minutes ago
01:38:31.780 in the west
01:38:32.700 right
01:38:33.380 honor
01:38:33.820 marriage
01:38:34.360 excellent
01:38:35.240 and it
01:38:35.660 abolishes
01:38:36.200 them
01:38:36.500 under the
01:38:37.320 misguided
01:38:37.980 unicornia
01:38:38.740 view
01:38:39.080 that we
01:38:39.700 need to
01:38:40.000 create
01:38:40.420 equal
01:38:41.460 social
01:38:41.840 acts
01:38:42.240 how do
01:38:43.840 you stop
01:38:44.040 that
01:38:44.220 how do
01:38:45.600 we as a
01:38:46.020 society
01:38:46.260 if we're
01:38:46.860 looking at
01:38:47.080 universities
01:38:47.520 and in fact
01:38:48.480 if you've
01:38:49.440 got children
01:38:49.860 if there's a
01:38:51.340 parent here
01:38:51.840 whose children
01:38:52.560 are about to
01:38:53.020 go to
01:38:53.300 university
01:38:53.840 what advice
01:38:55.300 would you give
01:38:55.680 the kids
01:38:56.260 because people
01:38:57.180 I always say
01:38:57.900 now
01:38:58.220 parents used to
01:38:59.340 be worried
01:38:59.640 about their
01:38:59.920 kids going
01:39:00.240 to university
01:39:00.720 and getting
01:39:01.080 addicted to
01:39:01.580 drugs or
01:39:01.940 drinking too
01:39:02.320 much alcohol
01:39:02.820 now I'd be
01:39:04.460 worried about
01:39:04.840 them coming
01:39:05.080 out of university
01:39:05.640 chopping off
01:39:06.060 their penis
01:39:06.420 or removing
01:39:06.820 their boobs
01:39:07.280 something big
01:39:09.080 has gone
01:39:09.340 on
01:39:09.560 what advice
01:39:11.180 would you give
01:39:11.680 for someone
01:39:12.000 who spent
01:39:12.280 30 years
01:39:12.780 in university
01:39:13.320 and seeing
01:39:13.700 where we're
01:39:14.040 at now
01:39:14.360 that's a
01:39:14.840 great question
01:39:15.180 there are
01:39:15.460 many ways
01:39:16.000 so one of
01:39:16.640 the things
01:39:16.940 that you
01:39:17.160 and I
01:39:17.360 talked about
01:39:17.960 when we
01:39:18.460 met for
01:39:18.740 coffee yesterday
01:39:19.240 you asked me
01:39:20.140 what's a
01:39:20.660 honey badger
01:39:21.220 and I
01:39:22.300 explained to
01:39:22.900 you that
01:39:23.160 in chapter
01:39:23.780 8 of
01:39:24.520 the parasitic
01:39:25.000 mind
01:39:25.340 I have
01:39:26.260 this kind
01:39:26.780 of battle
01:39:27.380 for crime
01:39:28.180 where I
01:39:28.780 implore people
01:39:29.400 to activate
01:39:30.120 their inner
01:39:30.640 honey badger
01:39:31.300 and so let
01:39:32.260 me explain
01:39:32.980 to maybe
01:39:33.740 your British
01:39:34.160 viewers who
01:39:34.560 may not know
01:39:34.920 what a honey
01:39:35.260 badger is
01:39:35.700 a honey badger
01:39:37.280 ranked as
01:39:37.760 the fiercest
01:39:38.300 animal in
01:39:38.820 the animal
01:39:39.140 kingdom
01:39:39.420 it's the
01:39:39.880 size of
01:39:40.240 about a
01:39:40.620 small dog
01:39:41.220 it's a
01:39:42.140 badger
01:39:42.520 but a
01:39:43.140 honey badger
01:39:43.560 is a
01:39:43.840 particular
01:39:44.240 type of
01:39:44.780 badger
01:39:45.160 someone put
01:39:45.800 it on the
01:39:46.080 comment
01:39:46.320 under your
01:39:46.720 thing
01:39:46.940 oh is that
01:39:48.040 true
01:39:48.220 yeah under
01:39:48.840 your comment
01:39:49.320 someone said
01:39:49.960 about
01:39:50.240 activate
01:39:50.580 the
01:39:50.720 honey
01:39:50.880 badger
01:39:51.140 oh great
01:39:51.620 so it's
01:39:53.300 the size
01:39:53.580 of a
01:39:53.780 small dog
01:39:54.340 but it
01:39:54.780 is so
01:39:55.300 ferocious
01:39:55.800 so fierce
01:39:56.580 it stands
01:39:57.100 so tall
01:39:57.920 despite the
01:39:58.680 fact that
01:39:58.980 it's the
01:39:59.200 size of
01:39:59.420 a small
01:39:59.680 dog
01:39:59.940 that it
01:40:01.220 lives in
01:40:01.540 a very
01:40:01.820 dangerous
01:40:02.360 ecosystem
01:40:03.280 in a
01:40:03.660 very dangerous
01:40:07.280 and with
01:40:07.720 lions
01:40:08.180 and yet
01:40:08.740 lions
01:40:09.300 will go
01:40:09.880 to the
01:40:10.140 other side
01:40:10.560 of the
01:40:10.820 street
01:40:11.100 when they
01:40:11.440 see the
01:40:11.720 honey
01:40:11.920 badger
01:40:12.220 why
01:40:12.540 because
01:40:13.060 it is
01:40:13.520 ferocious
01:40:14.080 so when I
01:40:14.840 tell people
01:40:15.280 activate your
01:40:15.920 inner honey
01:40:16.320 badger
01:40:16.640 I'm asking
01:40:17.320 them to
01:40:18.100 be
01:40:18.420 ideologically
01:40:19.360 committed
01:40:19.880 in defending
01:40:20.740 their principles
01:40:21.740 so to your
01:40:22.660 question
01:40:23.080 if you are
01:40:24.420 a parent
01:40:25.080 and you know
01:40:26.060 that at the
01:40:26.900 at the school
01:40:27.680 they're teaching
01:40:28.320 that of course
01:40:29.480 girls can have
01:40:32.100 penises
01:40:32.560 that's just a
01:40:33.680 biological fact
01:40:34.580 that girls can
01:40:35.200 have penises
01:40:35.700 well then maybe
01:40:36.720 you want to
01:40:37.600 get
01:40:38.460 engaged
01:40:39.780 maybe
01:40:40.160 instead of
01:40:40.880 saying
01:40:41.140 well let
01:40:41.500 somebody
01:40:41.820 let Gadsad
01:40:43.080 serve as our
01:40:44.560 spokesperson
01:40:45.820 he's got
01:40:46.920 big shoulders
01:40:47.560 he's a
01:40:47.960 courageous guy
01:40:48.600 he's a
01:40:49.100 cool guy
01:40:49.480 he'll handle
01:40:49.920 it for us
01:40:50.260 no
01:40:50.660 we all have
01:40:52.080 a stake
01:40:52.560 in the game
01:40:53.040 some of us
01:40:53.520 have bigger
01:40:53.980 platforms
01:40:54.540 some of us
01:40:55.380 have fancier
01:40:56.180 titles
01:40:56.700 but all of us
01:40:58.180 can affect
01:40:59.160 change
01:40:59.920 within the
01:41:00.620 small sphere
01:41:01.520 of influence
01:41:02.080 of our lives
01:41:02.680 if your
01:41:03.500 professor says
01:41:04.160 something that's
01:41:04.760 insane
01:41:05.120 challenge them
01:41:05.920 politely
01:41:06.320 don't say
01:41:07.100 but if I
01:41:07.720 challenge them
01:41:08.440 I might get
01:41:09.040 a lower
01:41:09.360 grade
01:41:09.780 you know
01:41:10.500 the guys
01:41:10.980 who landed
01:41:11.420 on Normandy
01:41:12.220 recently celebrated
01:41:13.640 they were all
01:41:14.860 18 and 19
01:41:15.960 years old
01:41:16.460 they knew that
01:41:17.060 most of them
01:41:17.520 were going to
01:41:18.040 be mowed down
01:41:18.820 like little
01:41:19.700 mosquitoes
01:41:20.180 and yet they
01:41:21.120 all said
01:41:21.420 yeah yeah
01:41:21.720 sign me up
01:41:22.300 so if they're
01:41:23.200 able to sign
01:41:24.020 up for that
01:41:24.820 surely you can
01:41:25.960 muster the
01:41:26.480 courage to say
01:41:27.260 hey professor
01:41:27.920 really women
01:41:28.960 can have
01:41:29.380 nine inch
01:41:29.780 penises
01:41:30.100 can you explain
01:41:30.960 that to me
01:41:31.400 using simple
01:41:31.980 words
01:41:32.340 right
01:41:33.020 but
01:41:33.620 is it safe
01:41:34.120 is it safe
01:41:34.680 within the
01:41:34.980 university for
01:41:37.440 pupils to
01:41:37.880 challenge that
01:41:38.320 now
01:41:38.500 do we have
01:41:39.560 that system
01:41:40.220 of freedom
01:41:40.640 of speech
01:41:41.000 within the
01:41:41.360 universities
01:41:41.800 for these
01:41:42.180 discussions
01:41:42.600 I mean
01:41:43.700 it depends
01:41:44.540 on the
01:41:45.100 classroom
01:41:45.600 in some
01:41:46.040 classes
01:41:46.520 the professors
01:41:47.320 will be
01:41:48.760 unethical
01:41:50.180 and will say
01:41:51.040 you better
01:41:51.980 not say that
01:41:53.860 or else I'll
01:41:54.420 grade you down
01:41:55.080 but I'd like
01:41:56.100 to think
01:41:56.640 that there is
01:41:57.420 still enough
01:41:58.040 honourable people
01:41:59.040 whether it be
01:41:59.760 in politics
01:42:00.420 or in business
01:42:01.460 or in universities
01:42:03.060 that if we can
01:42:04.560 activate the
01:42:06.360 courage of the
01:42:07.040 silent majority
01:42:07.880 then we'll
01:42:08.760 quickly realize
01:42:09.620 that the crazy
01:42:11.040 folks are
01:42:11.820 actually in the
01:42:12.800 minority
01:42:13.220 but the minority
01:42:14.660 are the ones
01:42:15.440 that have the
01:42:16.080 loud voices
01:42:16.680 the minority
01:42:17.580 are the ones
01:42:18.380 that do the
01:42:19.160 encampments
01:42:19.840 the minority
01:42:21.140 are the ones
01:42:21.860 that call
01:42:22.420 death to Jews
01:42:23.400 eventually they'll
01:42:24.360 become the minority
01:42:25.020 by the way
01:42:25.460 and then you
01:42:25.880 would have lost
01:42:26.320 the window of
01:42:26.760 opportunity
01:42:27.140 but today
01:42:28.180 the numbers
01:42:29.040 are such
01:42:29.660 that if I
01:42:30.180 look at my
01:42:30.720 emails
01:42:31.180 I receive
01:42:32.240 a million
01:42:33.120 emails
01:42:33.660 and let me
01:42:34.240 summarize for you
01:42:35.100 what every
01:42:35.500 email is
01:42:36.020 you ready
01:42:36.320 and it's
01:42:37.160 going to show
01:42:37.500 you how
01:42:37.920 that's the
01:42:38.500 problem
01:42:38.900 dear
01:42:39.820 professor
01:42:40.380 sap
01:42:40.820 bunch of
01:42:41.800 compliments
01:42:42.480 last sentence
01:42:44.120 but
01:42:44.400 but if you
01:42:46.560 decide to
01:42:47.280 read my
01:42:47.960 email
01:42:48.620 on your
01:42:50.020 show
01:42:50.540 please keep
01:42:51.220 my name
01:42:51.620 out
01:42:51.760 and therefore
01:42:53.980 I write
01:42:54.500 back
01:42:54.820 dear
01:42:55.180 so and
01:42:55.720 so
01:42:56.000 thank you
01:42:56.920 for the
01:42:57.240 lovely
01:42:57.500 words
01:42:57.900 don't you
01:42:58.540 think
01:42:58.800 that the
01:42:59.200 last
01:42:59.520 sentence
01:42:59.940 of your
01:43:00.340 email
01:43:00.660 is exactly
01:43:01.300 why we
01:43:01.760 are here
01:43:02.240 how do you
01:43:03.780 because you're
01:43:04.200 exactly that is
01:43:05.080 my direct
01:43:05.540 messages
01:43:05.880 my direct
01:43:06.920 messages
01:43:07.180 exactly the
01:43:07.580 same
01:43:07.800 and in the
01:43:08.900 sense
01:43:09.120 so you
01:43:09.460 walked the
01:43:09.900 street
01:43:10.120 as we
01:43:10.560 walked the
01:43:10.940 street
01:43:11.060 yesterday
01:43:11.380 lots of
01:43:11.680 people were
01:43:11.980 complimenting you
01:43:12.620 yeah
01:43:12.840 yeah
01:43:13.300 just in
01:43:14.240 one little
01:43:15.400 bit
01:43:15.660 yeah
01:43:16.120 so there was
01:43:17.180 no animosity
01:43:17.720 there was
01:43:18.380 thanking
01:43:18.860 people were
01:43:19.440 thanking you
01:43:19.880 why are they
01:43:20.500 thanking you
01:43:21.020 because I'm
01:43:22.940 exhibiting the
01:43:24.280 courage that
01:43:25.280 they're unwilling
01:43:26.060 to exhibit
01:43:26.640 I mean of
01:43:27.380 course there
01:43:27.980 are things
01:43:28.460 coming out of
01:43:29.060 my mouth or
01:43:29.800 that I'm
01:43:30.320 writing that
01:43:31.060 is unique to
01:43:32.060 me but I
01:43:33.000 think probably
01:43:33.680 the thing that
01:43:34.260 impresses people
01:43:35.200 the most is
01:43:36.240 that you have
01:43:37.580 the testicular
01:43:38.800 fortitude the
01:43:39.720 courage to
01:43:40.680 stand up and
01:43:41.800 say what
01:43:42.720 everybody behind
01:43:43.760 you is thinking
01:43:44.760 but is
01:43:45.400 unwilling to
01:43:46.000 say
01:43:46.180 look there's
01:43:46.840 always some
01:43:47.940 valid reason for
01:43:49.580 why you
01:43:50.240 shouldn't take
01:43:50.760 risks
01:43:51.160 right and
01:43:52.500 let me
01:43:52.940 let me
01:43:53.560 contextualize it
01:43:54.620 with an
01:43:54.840 academia
01:43:55.260 okay if
01:43:56.240 you're a
01:43:56.680 young professor
01:43:57.500 who's not yet
01:43:58.720 tenured you
01:43:59.800 will write to
01:44:00.420 me and say
01:44:01.100 I have to
01:44:02.340 wait I have
01:44:03.100 to wait I
01:44:03.600 have to wait I
01:44:03.620 like a
01:44:03.940 when you get
01:44:05.020 tenure you
01:44:06.080 then write to
01:44:06.800 me and say
01:44:07.620 well I'd like to
01:44:08.780 apply for a
01:44:09.400 full professor
01:44:10.100 so I've got to
01:44:11.440 wait when you
01:44:12.700 get full professor
01:44:13.620 you know I'm
01:44:14.300 thinking of going
01:44:14.940 for a chair
01:44:15.400 professor once I
01:44:16.500 get that and
01:44:17.220 I'm 73 that's
01:44:18.740 when I'll let
01:44:19.260 do you like
01:44:19.840 I might be in
01:44:20.720 the short
01:44:21.140 running for a
01:44:21.900 prize so I
01:44:22.860 even though I'm
01:44:23.580 chair professor
01:44:24.160 so there's
01:44:25.020 always some
01:44:26.000 castrated
01:44:27.020 cowardly reason
01:44:28.120 why you
01:44:29.400 shouldn't take
01:44:30.040 the risk and
01:44:30.760 why Gatsan
01:44:31.640 should take
01:44:32.100 all and when I
01:44:32.640 say Gatsan I
01:44:33.200 don't mean just
01:44:33.680 me I mean also
01:44:34.420 Tommy Robbins I
01:44:35.260 mean all the
01:44:36.060 people who have
01:44:36.700 the courage to
01:44:37.260 do it right
01:44:37.700 and so no I'm
01:44:39.800 not sympathetic
01:44:40.480 to your reason
01:44:41.760 for why you
01:44:42.420 shouldn't so
01:44:43.280 people write to
01:44:43.900 me for example
01:44:44.760 someone who's
01:44:45.200 got a conscience
01:44:45.820 will write to
01:44:46.260 me and say
01:44:46.580 am I a coward
01:44:48.340 for not writing
01:44:50.360 what I truly
01:44:51.040 think on my
01:44:51.860 paper because I
01:44:53.000 just want to get
01:44:53.720 a good grade and
01:44:54.660 my answer is
01:44:55.700 dear so and
01:44:56.700 so yes you
01:44:57.840 are a coward
01:44:58.420 but do you
01:45:01.900 okay in that
01:45:03.180 sense because in
01:45:04.280 that sense do
01:45:05.060 you see where
01:45:06.820 there's been the
01:45:07.400 fear element has
01:45:08.740 been installed in
01:45:09.500 everybody even if
01:45:10.180 you just look at
01:45:10.620 the truck we're in
01:45:11.520 Canada look what
01:45:12.620 happened to the
01:45:12.980 truckers yeah they
01:45:14.440 weren't cowards they
01:45:15.700 stood up what
01:45:16.580 happened to them
01:45:17.280 yes can we can
01:45:18.280 you tell the story
01:45:19.020 to people who
01:45:19.580 weren't aware in
01:45:20.220 during COVID I'd
01:45:21.460 like your opinion on
01:45:22.120 COVID as well but
01:45:22.900 do you understand so
01:45:24.020 even if I talk about
01:45:24.800 myself here I used a
01:45:26.140 fake name yeah and
01:45:27.900 I wore a mask
01:45:28.640 because I was a
01:45:29.880 coward yeah because
01:45:31.140 I didn't want to be
01:45:31.720 the person sitting
01:45:32.420 here I didn't want
01:45:33.200 to be the person
01:45:33.760 who if you're a
01:45:34.740 coward what I'm
01:45:36.320 saying to people is
01:45:37.060 I was you yeah so
01:45:39.060 the people who
01:45:39.500 wasn't speaking out
01:45:40.260 I was that person
01:45:41.100 the people who
01:45:41.840 didn't want to
01:45:42.240 speak out I was
01:45:43.000 that person I was
01:45:43.980 scared to speak out
01:45:44.840 that's why I used a
01:45:45.760 fake name I used a
01:45:46.860 fake name and wore a
01:45:47.580 mask because I was
01:45:49.580 scared and I had a
01:45:51.060 legitimate reason to
01:45:51.720 be scared so all
01:45:52.480 these people because
01:45:53.100 I it's a struggle
01:45:54.020 because I'm sorry
01:45:54.520 I get it because
01:45:55.560 they are going to
01:45:56.220 lose their job they
01:45:57.280 are going to and if
01:45:58.080 you're if you're a
01:45:58.620 man who's working
01:45:59.600 hard in Canada are
01:46:01.880 you free to just say
01:46:02.920 your opinion or do
01:46:04.020 you have a high
01:46:04.540 mortgage do you have
01:46:05.420 two reliant kids on
01:46:06.280 you and are you
01:46:07.220 going to put that
01:46:07.600 in jeopardy by
01:46:08.120 speaking out I got
01:46:08.980 you yeah so I so
01:46:10.320 let me backtrack so
01:46:11.300 I don't want to make
01:46:12.740 it sound as though
01:46:13.860 I'm unsympathetic no
01:46:15.940 real concern but how
01:46:16.940 do we get them to
01:46:17.580 talk right so then
01:46:19.280 modulate your risk
01:46:20.700 right so here I'm
01:46:22.760 going to go to a
01:46:24.260 topic that I
01:46:25.040 covered in my book
01:46:26.980 after Parasitic
01:46:28.120 Mind which was a
01:46:28.760 book on happiness
01:46:29.420 so in that in that
01:46:32.040 book I have a
01:46:32.780 chapter on what I
01:46:33.840 call the inverted
01:46:34.620 view the inverted
01:46:35.740 view basically means
01:46:37.400 too little of
01:46:38.520 something is not
01:46:39.240 good too much of
01:46:40.520 something is not
01:46:41.180 good and the sweet
01:46:42.140 spot is in the
01:46:42.980 middle and the one
01:46:44.220 of the most famous
01:46:45.040 philosophers to ever
01:46:46.840 espouse that idea was
01:46:48.360 none other than
01:46:49.080 Aristotle he talked
01:46:50.720 about the golden
01:46:51.360 mean and so you're
01:46:52.620 going to see how
01:46:52.940 I'm going to
01:46:53.220 link it to what
01:46:53.640 we're talking about
01:46:54.080 in a second so he
01:46:55.800 said look as a
01:46:57.640 soldier a warrior if
01:46:59.540 he is cowardly and
01:47:02.180 therefore he hides
01:47:02.980 behind the bushes that's
01:47:04.460 not good if he is
01:47:05.960 completely reckless in
01:47:07.760 his bravery and gets
01:47:08.800 killed in four seconds
01:47:09.720 then you see what I'm
01:47:10.940 going to try so no
01:47:12.380 one is saying that be
01:47:14.140 a completely unmitigated
01:47:17.000 uncalculated risk
01:47:18.520 taker but even within
01:47:20.740 whatever real concerns
01:47:22.360 you have you can
01:47:23.940 still contribute to
01:47:25.240 the battle yeah
01:47:25.920 yeah so everyone has
01:47:26.800 a ball to play
01:47:27.300 you go to the pub
01:47:29.500 with your buddies
01:47:31.440 talk and they're
01:47:32.580 starting to say
01:47:33.240 bullshit challenge
01:47:34.920 them your boss is not
01:47:36.340 there your professor is
01:47:37.760 not there to give you
01:47:38.440 a bad grade but then
01:47:39.900 there by the way you
01:47:41.020 know what the answer
01:47:41.500 will be but then I'm
01:47:42.800 afraid that they'll
01:47:43.780 unfriend me so that's
01:47:45.600 what that's my point is
01:47:46.800 that there is always a
01:47:49.020 viable reason for why
01:47:51.080 it shouldn't be you
01:47:52.540 who speaks right and
01:47:53.880 that's called the
01:47:54.620 diffusion of
01:47:55.200 responsibility in
01:47:55.920 psychology right so
01:47:56.800 oftentimes when you see
01:47:57.820 someone being accosted
01:47:59.280 and attacked the
01:48:00.960 likelihood of someone
01:48:02.120 intervening decreases
01:48:05.300 the more people that
01:48:06.960 are around you would
01:48:07.740 think it's the opposite
01:48:08.420 right the more people
01:48:09.320 that they are around
01:48:10.100 the likelihood the
01:48:11.380 greater likelihood that
01:48:12.160 somebody will come no
01:48:13.000 the more people that
01:48:14.220 are around the more we
01:48:15.760 can each defuse the
01:48:17.020 responsibility I'm not
01:48:18.740 going to go into the
01:48:19.420 dark alley to save her
01:48:20.700 because there's another
01:48:21.860 10 really courageous guys
01:48:23.700 that will go I think
01:48:24.540 Tommy will go he's a
01:48:25.520 fighter I won't do it
01:48:26.860 and if there's 50 other
01:48:28.240 Tommy looking guys well
01:48:29.900 let them worry about it
01:48:30.900 so it's a very easy
01:48:33.480 psychological trap to
01:48:34.860 fall into for us to
01:48:36.600 say let someone I really
01:48:38.240 have real concern look
01:48:39.640 why don't I share the
01:48:42.740 names of my children or
01:48:44.260 where so I'm also
01:48:45.660 doing what you're
01:48:46.660 doing is it that I'm
01:48:47.680 being coward no
01:48:48.720 calculate but here's
01:48:51.220 what I'm unwilling to
01:48:52.240 do when I go to sleep
01:48:54.260 at night okay the only
01:48:57.100 thing that allows me to
01:48:59.140 fight against insomnia is
01:49:01.760 to know that that day I
01:49:05.460 behave in an authentic and
01:49:08.680 non cowardly way otherwise
01:49:10.820 you're happy with yourself I'm
01:49:12.080 happy with myself so there is
01:49:13.580 a calculus at the end of
01:49:15.580 the day that says was I
01:49:18.600 got sad yes go to sleep if
01:49:21.460 I modulate what I am then
01:49:23.800 now maybe that's too
01:49:25.040 exacting and too punishing
01:49:26.520 of a code of personal
01:49:27.520 conduct maybe I should
01:49:28.400 relax it but guess what you
01:49:30.520 are Tommy Robinson because
01:49:32.060 you probably have the same
01:49:33.320 code of conduct I've got
01:49:33.920 this coming up now I've got
01:49:34.760 this code of conduct coming
01:49:35.560 up right now I've got a
01:49:37.600 court case coming up for a
01:49:38.500 film I made and I do not
01:49:40.680 want to bend on it because
01:49:42.380 I won't be able to live
01:49:43.080 with myself if I do just
01:49:45.100 because I'll just think no
01:49:46.120 if I go to jail for nine
01:49:47.720 months or if I go to jail
01:49:48.560 for two years I won't be
01:49:50.320 happy going to jail in that
01:49:51.740 prison cell for the nine
01:49:52.720 months if I've been
01:49:54.340 exactly so so I don't the
01:49:56.900 fact that you wore the mask
01:49:58.840 and the fact that you
01:50:00.000 changed your name to me
01:50:01.720 doesn't in any way suggest
01:50:03.860 that you're cowardly it's
01:50:05.360 that you live in the real
01:50:06.560 world and you have to
01:50:07.400 mitigate your risk what I
01:50:08.300 mean is how do we get
01:50:09.220 because this all changes
01:50:10.540 if everyone speaks you
01:50:11.480 know the letters you
01:50:12.040 receive the emails you
01:50:12.900 receive when I was when
01:50:13.900 I've been to prison I
01:50:14.580 receive hundreds of them
01:50:15.240 every day if I look at my
01:50:16.180 messages now there's
01:50:17.120 hundreds of them so
01:50:17.840 there's a massive feeling
01:50:19.360 I think we've just broke
01:50:20.300 the back in London on the
01:50:22.040 June 1st yeah I've always
01:50:24.060 said you see the people
01:50:24.860 who are whispering about
01:50:25.540 these problems people who
01:50:26.360 come up to you in the
01:50:26.880 street and say I agree
01:50:27.680 with you but I can't say
01:50:28.880 it's not great that you're
01:50:30.520 doing it what will be the
01:50:32.700 moment because people are
01:50:34.060 whispering about I said
01:50:34.740 when that turns and that
01:50:35.800 bubble bursts I think
01:50:37.160 people are going to be
01:50:37.620 screaming about it yeah yes
01:50:38.620 how do we get there how
01:50:40.000 do we get the person who's
01:50:40.760 watching this now who
01:50:41.500 agrees with everything you
01:50:42.320 say who sees a society
01:50:44.060 going down the dangerous
01:50:44.940 path who's worried about
01:50:46.200 universities is worried
01:50:47.160 about indoctrination how
01:50:48.040 do you get them to step
01:50:50.360 out to actually just start
01:50:51.720 you keep doing exactly what
01:50:53.000 we're doing here right I
01:50:53.860 mean you could have not
01:50:55.360 come to see me in
01:50:56.120 Montreal I could have not
01:50:57.680 taken the hours that like
01:50:59.140 guess what nothing is more
01:51:00.400 important than us sitting
01:51:01.940 here however many people
01:51:03.820 listen to this if one two
01:51:05.620 ten fifty a thousand it's a
01:51:07.920 battle of ideas right
01:51:08.920 Normandy was a battle with
01:51:10.500 machine guns this is a
01:51:11.840 battle for no one's asking
01:51:13.560 you go war say that no
01:51:15.140 one's asked that I always
01:51:16.020 say that we're not asking
01:51:17.080 you go to war that's right
01:51:18.180 at the minute exactly but
01:51:19.740 in fact we're trying to
01:51:20.360 prevent that exactly so to
01:51:22.260 your point about how do we
01:51:23.320 get the people to to to
01:51:24.680 wake up the people I promise
01:51:26.980 you will wake up the problem
01:51:28.920 is when when and if it's too
01:51:30.880 late and if it's now even
01:51:32.660 when it's too late it might
01:51:34.440 still be reversed by that
01:51:36.780 great cost cost so we can
01:51:39.600 resolve it yesterday it
01:51:41.220 would have been peaceful
01:51:42.040 today a bit less peaceful
01:51:43.940 in a week a bit less
01:51:45.180 peaceful in ten years it's
01:51:47.620 Beirut civil war again now
01:51:50.480 when I used to say this for
01:51:52.200 now many decades people would
01:51:53.980 always say to me I'll stop
01:51:55.760 being dramatizing
01:51:56.940 stop dramatizing professor
01:51:58.400 stop being so hyperbolic
01:51:59.660 today they write to me say
01:52:01.000 oh you're right I'll tell
01:52:01.820 you can I tell you a quick
01:52:02.660 story exactly but somebody
01:52:04.220 who's come around yeah I
01:52:05.880 mentioned this actually in
01:52:07.060 the person of mine where I
01:52:09.980 talk about how Jews can be
01:52:13.880 parasitized about the mortal
01:52:16.540 dangers that faces them so
01:52:18.940 here's an example this woman
01:52:21.700 writes to me this is around
01:52:23.020 2010 she says we're friends we
01:52:27.060 know each other she's Jewish
01:52:28.660 she's Jewish okay and as a
01:52:30.180 matter of fact her grandparents
01:52:31.520 were I don't know I think they
01:52:33.460 they perished in the holocaust
01:52:34.880 okay or some of them I don't
01:52:38.120 know exactly how many she
01:52:39.700 writes to me an email and says
01:52:41.320 I'm I've become very good
01:52:42.920 friends with a student at
01:52:44.480 McGill we mentioned McGill
01:52:45.780 earlier she's a PhD student in
01:52:47.620 Islamic studies whatever and she
01:52:49.520 was telling me God that oh
01:52:51.700 Islam loves the Jews it's not
01:52:53.780 true it's a misrepresentation all
01:52:55.820 this bullshit well you're you
01:52:58.880 know your stuff about Islam you're
01:53:00.760 from the Middle East you're
01:53:01.960 Arabic is your mother tongue
01:53:03.320 what's the verdict tell me what
01:53:05.920 is it okay so I thought okay
01:53:07.380 that's great she's reaching out to
01:53:08.900 me to find out so what I did
01:53:10.940 Tommy is I shared with her I think
01:53:13.420 it's about a 22 20 22 minute
01:53:16.240 montage of clips from across the
01:53:20.140 Islamic world of things that
01:53:22.260 people are saying about the Jews
01:53:23.940 it's largely imams scholars but
01:53:27.000 it could be Islamic scholars it
01:53:28.840 could be the politicians it could
01:53:30.420 be the kindergarten cartoons that
01:53:35.140 are being shown across the Middle
01:53:36.420 East what they're showing in
01:53:37.760 schools right yeah okay I mean
01:53:39.340 stuff that is so bewildering and
01:53:43.200 how genocidal it is that it would
01:53:46.200 make Hitler and his friends go oh
01:53:49.540 that seems like it's a bit too much
01:53:51.000 Jew hatred for me I mean I'm Hitler
01:53:52.800 but this seems like it's way too
01:53:54.700 much even I have limits and look I
01:53:57.460 got Himmler next to me I got
01:53:58.720 Goebbels look at us we're the
01:54:00.640 Nazis okay so I sent her that with
01:54:03.480 no editorializing no watch this
01:54:06.460 what do you think she responds to
01:54:08.300 me get ready well she don't want to
01:54:10.960 accept it like most people haven't
01:54:12.340 want to accept it because you know
01:54:13.200 why they don't accept it because if
01:54:14.420 she accepts it what are you going to
01:54:15.320 do about it exactly so she writes
01:54:16.880 back to me and says wow you seem to
01:54:20.620 be no different in your extremism
01:54:23.360 than they are so by showing you
01:54:27.460 exactly so you asked me you you
01:54:30.480 you engaged me yep I just shared a
01:54:33.380 clip in their words that makes me the
01:54:37.020 extreme but this is how the whole of
01:54:39.080 society has treated any of us talking
01:54:40.660 about this absolutely for a decade
01:54:41.940 absolutely yeah now here's the good
01:54:44.260 news she's come around about after
01:54:46.800 October 7th after watching six months
01:54:49.500 okay okay she came back to me and said
01:54:52.280 oh I don't know if you remember oh I
01:54:55.120 remember it's in the book oh you wrote
01:54:57.500 about it okay but I didn't
01:54:59.040 she goes you know I now realize that I
01:55:04.260 was probably not fair to you and I now
01:55:07.340 see what you mean oh you see what you
01:55:10.260 mean because they're coming in your
01:55:11.800 your daughter for the gangrene it's
01:55:14.760 affecting you now exactly so diabetes
01:55:17.360 doesn't exist because I don't have
01:55:19.680 diabetes and nobody in my family has
01:55:21.840 diabetes so diabetes is not real but
01:55:24.420 once diabetes hits my family then it
01:55:26.720 becomes real right so the problem is
01:55:30.620 that regrettably the architecture of the
01:55:33.020 human mind is construction is
01:55:35.300 constructed in such a way that it can it
01:55:38.060 will find every possible means to ignore
01:55:40.800 the problem until it literally has
01:55:43.100 taken a chunk out of your ass at that
01:55:45.200 point then I wake up and go oh my
01:55:46.720 buttocks feel a bit lighter right but
01:55:48.920 until then I don't see it right so
01:55:51.360 they're all seeing it now they're all
01:55:52.860 seeing it I hope it's not too late but
01:55:55.580 demography is destiny Tommy and what is
01:55:59.160 the demography for Canada what's the
01:56:01.020 demography for the West how how horrifying
01:56:05.700 so because how horrifying so and what
01:56:09.300 and what what can you do about the
01:56:10.560 demography so let me let me first
01:56:12.080 mention just a fertility statement and
01:56:14.300 the demographic statement on average
01:56:16.860 across the West the replacement fertility
01:56:19.460 rate is 2.17 in other words in order for
01:56:22.440 you to just maintain your population at
01:56:24.540 zero like no to make up for the dead is
01:56:27.880 you need to have 2.17 children we're
01:56:30.520 having 1.3 we we are we're basically an
01:56:34.420 asexuals we there's no sex okay so we
01:56:37.220 are so if nothing else changed I'm not
01:56:40.800 talking now about Islam you're going
01:56:42.600 down okay now you have they use the day
01:56:46.220 use this as justification for
01:56:47.760 immigration exactly to keep the money
01:56:50.520 bubble there as well exactly so the
01:56:53.020 Islamists have have long said I mean
01:56:55.880 literally they advertise it from the top
01:56:57.820 of the mountain we are and I and you're
01:57:00.760 whoever is listening to this memorize
01:57:02.620 this we are I'm speaking now as it as
01:57:06.860 it is Islamist we are going to conquer
01:57:11.760 the West through three means we're going
01:57:14.880 to conquer the West through the womb of
01:57:17.720 our women thank you we are going to
01:57:21.280 conquer the West through hijra hijra is
01:57:25.180 the Arabic word for migration so some of
01:57:28.560 would you say some migration and the
01:57:29.920 immigration we're seeing is to do with
01:57:31.520 G is to do with their wanting to conquer
01:57:34.060 areas not not just absolutely I'll come
01:57:36.840 back to that yeah and number three we're
01:57:39.100 going to conquer the West by using your
01:57:41.860 miserable freedoms against you and you
01:57:46.060 will use your democracy to end your
01:57:47.420 democracy we'll use your democracy use
01:57:49.040 your free speech to it when we are the
01:57:50.860 victim when we are the minority we wind
01:57:54.440 victimhood all day when we are the
01:57:56.640 majority there'll be no much there'll
01:57:58.340 be no the neck there'll be no minority
01:57:59.940 rights for you now to your earlier
01:58:01.760 point about conquering this I think you
01:58:04.940 would know given your work maybe some of
01:58:07.480 your followers don't Islam is binary in
01:58:11.840 the way that it views the world there are
01:58:14.360 two camps in Islam house of war house of
01:58:17.100 God
01:58:17.360 the house of Islam is any land that is
01:58:40.640 now ruled by Islam so for example
01:58:43.360 currently currently the OIC the
01:58:46.380 organization of Islamic cooperation is
01:58:48.020 made up of 56 countries plus the
01:58:50.120 Palestinian territory so that's called
01:58:51.580 57 okay that's the OIC that's house of
01:58:55.440 Islam okay everything else is under the
01:58:59.460 house of war and that needs to be brought
01:59:03.560 under the unifying flag of Allah the
01:59:06.880 house of God okay now there's another
01:59:10.840 point to be made here any territory that
01:59:14.600 was once by Islamic and the Lucia
01:59:18.640 right what do what do Islamic jihadists
01:59:21.600 say inshallah we will reconquer because
01:59:24.400 they have to they have to they have to
01:59:26.300 once it has been ruled by Islam by godly
01:59:29.920 decree that land no longer belongs to
01:59:33.040 those filthy Christian as Spaniards so
01:59:36.980 so that has to go back to Islam so now
01:59:40.160 let's link it to the Middle East Israel's
01:59:43.680 got nothing it's got nothing to do with
01:59:45.380 some Zionist from Hungary and Poland
01:59:51.880 coming and taking over this beautiful
01:59:54.600 land where all the Jews and the
01:59:56.640 Christians and the Muslims live together
01:59:58.040 it is an existential doctrine issue there
02:00:02.160 cannot be a Jewish presence a sovereign
02:00:07.080 nation called Jewish land and that's it is
02:00:11.240 a cancer in it because they've conquered
02:00:13.500 it once so they stay it's there it's
02:00:15.240 canonically it's written here I can go to
02:00:17.420 the book it cannot be so it's not a fight
02:00:20.300 between these little territories and where
02:00:22.420 we draw there's no Islam there's no
02:00:24.900 Judaism it cannot be now we can tolerate
02:00:27.940 you potentially there was a time where there
02:00:30.660 were Jews living in Palestine right but we
02:00:34.080 will at best we will tolerate you but you
02:00:36.620 having your own dignity you being more
02:00:40.340 powerful than us that's an affront to
02:00:43.280 every single thing that is taught in my
02:00:45.340 holy book it cannot be it cannot stand
02:00:47.640 and on the Israel issue since October 7th
02:00:53.040 have you like this lady who's contacted
02:00:55.240 you that's caused an awakening I've
02:00:57.100 witnessed I keep calling it a mass awakening
02:00:58.920 of the public of people who hated me the
02:01:01.040 amount of messages I get saying I hate you I
02:01:03.180 was told to hate you media told me to hate
02:01:05.020 you I hate you now I look at you and I
02:01:07.140 listen to you and I think well you were
02:01:08.360 right yeah and you do you see that are you
02:01:11.660 hearing that are people so to give people
02:01:14.940 some encouragement yeah as well are you
02:01:18.120 optimistic for the future or are you in a
02:01:20.560 position where you think we're in real
02:01:22.020 danger that's a great question I have to
02:01:24.940 be optimistic otherwise it'll be impossible
02:01:27.640 to get out of bed right so so then what's the
02:01:30.860 point of doing anything what why am I why
02:01:32.320 are we why are we having this chat it's all
02:01:33.860 dead right so I do believe that it can be
02:01:36.200 turned around but regrettably I say this
02:01:39.300 again not to violate your desire to have
02:01:42.540 optimism but I would I feel that the west is
02:01:47.280 still unwilling to look in the mirror and
02:01:50.700 implement the changes that will be required
02:01:53.560 to turn this ship around and I about two or
02:01:57.360 three weeks after October 7th I put out a
02:02:00.980 tweet that to my surprise when really
02:02:04.080 viral I don't know what was it 15 20
02:02:06.300 days where basically I was saying I
02:02:09.020 actually think that the way if we continue
02:02:12.080 on this path there's absolutely it's
02:02:14.020 irrevocable it's pancreatic cancer stage
02:02:16.400 four it's death and the reason why I said
02:02:18.700 that is because I said look every problem we
02:02:23.020 always hear the cliche the first step in
02:02:25.620 solving the problem is to recognize that you
02:02:27.280 have a problem so that you could then develop
02:02:28.860 a strategy to solve the problem now imagine
02:02:31.120 if you go to see your physician and he says
02:02:32.920 you've got cancer and then your answer is
02:02:34.560 well there is no such thing as cancer and if
02:02:36.140 there is cancer it's a Zionist plot and if
02:02:39.280 there is a real cancer and there is a cure
02:02:41.600 probably the Jews are withholding the cure
02:02:43.940 right well then you're gonna die of cancer well
02:02:46.340 what the west now I agree that there is an
02:02:49.460 awakening I don't know if the current
02:02:51.640 awakening is enough to turn the ship
02:02:53.520 around in other words it's going to take a
02:02:56.060 truly cataclysmic change in order to turn
02:02:59.760 around so in the grand scheme I'm optimistic
02:03:02.580 in that there still is a solution I'm not
02:03:06.320 confident that the west has the stomach to
02:03:09.200 implement those solutions have you been
02:03:11.780 surprised have you personally even though
02:03:13.660 everything you know been surprised by the
02:03:15.880 level of hate in the west in universities on
02:03:17.720 the streets since October 7th I have and for
02:03:20.560 me to say I have that when you're already
02:03:22.980 aware of the problem I'm already aware when
02:03:25.080 I have my own personal history with Jew
02:03:27.480 hatred as a matter of fact what has amazed me
02:03:31.720 is the the varied sources from which the Jew
02:03:36.660 hatred is coming so historically okay I can I
02:03:40.320 can rest assured that Muhammad and Mustafa
02:03:42.700 are going to send me the Jew hating stuff but
02:03:46.080 it's not just the Islamic guys that are sending
02:03:47.980 to me the academic progressive left is also
02:03:51.580 sending it to me right so I think that
02:03:53.980 surprised a lot of Jews it has and some of
02:03:56.980 them are awakening because by the way a lot
02:03:59.680 of the progressive academics are Jewish yeah
02:04:04.100 yeah so they were part of the parasitized
02:04:06.580 thinking and then the third group so there's
02:04:08.600 the is the Islam folks the academic left
02:04:11.920 progressive folks and then the Jews won't
02:04:15.640 replace us kind of neo-Nazi types now they're
02:04:18.360 they've all banded in deciding that I am the
02:04:22.520 architect of the genocide in Gaza and so this
02:04:26.920 kind of hate I get is simply just bewildering right I
02:04:30.400 mean I think I mean yes I can use humor and
02:04:33.720 satire but I think I'm very measured I distinguish
02:04:36.400 between individual Muslims and Islam I'm very
02:04:39.320 professorial and yet I am you know I'm a rat I'm a
02:04:43.740 vermin I'm poison this is what you're personally
02:04:46.420 getting caught all the time and you've said
02:04:49.440 nothing that's nothing you've just stated I
02:04:52.460 just state facts I share literally facts which
02:04:55.340 you could look at those facts and say here's
02:04:58.020 where you're wrong here's where you're right
02:04:59.860 right by the way I just to give you a sense of
02:05:03.660 the type of orgiastic Jew hatred that I get so I
02:05:07.600 and this will resonate with you because you come
02:05:10.380 from that world so I shared a screenshot of one of the
02:05:18.020 grooming gangs that was caught in Huddersfield okay
02:05:22.060 that's the one I went jail for okay so so yeah so that's
02:05:27.060 no one should be hearing this more than you so you I
02:05:30.900 shared it all the images of their faces all their faces
02:05:33.300 28 and their names and their names here
02:05:34.920 30% of them were called Mohammed which is a national statistic in a
02:05:38.500 no that's just named Mohammed but more than 90 more than 30% are from the
02:05:44.000 noble 90% from followers of Islam 90% of the Huddersfield only right
02:05:49.600 90% of all of them of all grooming gangs I actually thought I would have been a bit
02:05:53.280 higher but okay let's go with 90% so I shared that and in my usual sarcasm I
02:06:01.680 said I'm not smart enough to be able to see a unifying theme come across these
02:06:09.320 20 guys could somebody who's got big data analytic brain help help out this poor dumb
02:06:15.460 professor to try to see what it is okay guess what the answer I got what who's the
02:06:20.900 cause of all the grooming gangs the Jews why because they're bringing them in yes
02:06:25.760 that's why he's Tommy Robinson because this because I get this okay I get this
02:06:32.440 all the time so I get that most my hatred now is because I'm a Zionist race
02:06:36.940 traitor me so the hatred not even from the Muslims it's not coming from the
02:06:40.480 Muslims anymore towards me I'm the race traitor I'm the race traitor refuses to
02:06:44.380 talk about the facilitator exactly so I created a new mathematical equation it's
02:06:49.760 beautiful so when three Mohammeds rape gang rape your daughter the real rapist is
02:06:57.600 Mordechai so the equation is Mohammed plus Mohammed plus Mohammed equals Mordechai
02:07:04.320 beautiful social justice equation new form of mathematics so when I can't get the
02:07:12.260 father or the prototypical father of a raped girl to direct his ire to the people who raped his
02:07:22.860 daughter but that he really needs to target it to the real rapist who's the Jew how can
02:07:29.880 the West be safe you know I don't I don't I don't think any of the fathers or any of the
02:07:33.180 British public per se I think that a very vocal minority are the ones who are who are
02:07:38.580 saying this but growing but do you think it's it's a big enough of a cognitive trap
02:07:45.200 well they've all come together now they've all come together very vocally very vocally and even
02:07:50.220 as we're talking about on X with Elon Musk do you know why I was deleted from Twitter in 2017
02:07:56.580 why my statement said 90% of grooming gang convictions are Muslim males and 30% are called Mohammed
02:08:01.980 fact that statement come from a report from a Muslim think tank yeah that was my reason for
02:08:07.860 them removing me for hate speech so facts in 2017 but had become hate speech thankfully I'm back
02:08:14.160 thankfully I was giving my account back well I saw yesterday you're you're too modest to say it
02:08:19.060 publicly but I saw your analytics it's insane and I thought that my analytics were impressive and
02:08:24.380 you dwarfed the plan do you know what that shows that there's a need for this conversation that the
02:08:29.400 public are desperate for this conversation that the public that we we as a society have to have this
02:08:35.020 conversation because for five as I said since censorship since my censorship certainly we had
02:08:39.460 built I'd become a voice or we'd have become an and I'd say a symbol so it wasn't about it's not
02:08:44.560 essentially when people chant the name Tom Robinson it's not about an individual called Tom Robinson
02:08:47.940 it's about a movement of people who feel voiceless you know who feel voiceless who are desperate for
02:08:52.220 someone to have this conversation and say the things that need to be said because they're
02:08:55.520 desperately seeing their culture and their country disappear before their eyes and
02:09:00.020 with little hope but that essentially anyone who has this conversation was censored or silenced
02:09:07.260 and attacked under hate speech attacked as hate figures yeah boy it must have felt liberating once
02:09:14.760 you were able to get back your voice oh what well essentially yeah massively I felt like I was down
02:09:20.640 and someone just picks me up and said go on there you go and I'll just have a look back six months
02:09:27.220 every day back and let's go but when I say let's go is because um what do you see to some people
02:09:32.840 because I had this conversation years ago 13 years ago to my now ex-wife to say to her
02:09:39.320 the consequence is so terrifying I can see where this goes yeah and I knew it 15 years ago and I knew it
02:09:45.860 because I grew up in Luton so I know where this path takes this country yeah and that scares me not the
02:09:51.640 threats yeah I've got three children okay I know where this goes I know the way this takes us yeah
02:09:57.680 and now as a professor in university with the scenes we've seen in universities towards the average
02:10:07.760 Jewish person or Israeli person or supporter of Israel how do you feel about yourself yeah because
02:10:15.360 you have but you're you're a you're you're outspoken yeah you've gained quite a reputation
02:10:21.400 yeah yeah yeah in this field of being outspoken does that worry you yes so this in 2024 let's talk
02:10:29.480 about Canada 2024 Montreal Canada look my university has been colloquially called Gaza University for over 20
02:10:40.080 years so it's not something that today was discovered post October 7th the the dynamics
02:10:48.560 at my university have been that the writing has been on the wall for quite a while now the average
02:10:53.480 student can go about their business merrily without facing any trouble but imagine if Jewish students
02:10:59.780 who are anonymous right nobody knows who they are because they don't come out and say they don't come
02:11:04.320 out anything which is a sad state of affairs exactly they are afraid to go to my university as a matter of
02:11:09.840 fact a couple of months ago I was speaking to a senior administrator on a zoom call and that
02:11:15.600 person said to me straight looking at my face via zoom on zoom that there is no such thing as Jew
02:11:21.180 hatred at our university which took me I couldn't believe she she was saying that well about a month
02:11:26.340 later the president of my university was summoned in front of the Canadian parliament as part of a
02:11:33.420 testimony with three other presidents where they each had to admit including the president of my
02:11:39.020 university that there was massive Jew hatred so now this past semester I was fortunate enough to be on
02:11:47.900 sabbatical leave sabbatical leave simply means that after every few years a professor can put in an
02:11:53.960 application to be absolved of their teaching duties so they can just do research write their next book and
02:12:00.500 so on so I've been the last few months away from campus so I didn't have to face that campus but
02:12:07.880 September is coming around and I have to go back to teaching as a matter of fact yesterday my wife
02:12:12.160 and I were sitting and saying well what are we going to do what what's what's the strategy here
02:12:16.840 the previous semester which would have been in fall 2023 when October 7th has just happened I was
02:12:23.880 still teaching my wife was so concerned about my safety that she was coming to the courses with me
02:12:30.800 she would walk behind me so that there was never someone behind me and I mean you saw my wife
02:12:37.780 yeah she's not a six foot five MMA fighter that looks intimidating quite the opposite actually rather
02:12:45.200 feminine and beautiful and not very intimidating well she would she would she would sit the last seat next
02:12:52.800 to the door coming into the classroom to see who comes in now is it does it make sense that a professor
02:13:00.080 in the 21st century brings his lovely wife as their bodyguard in order to keep an eye on them safety
02:13:07.520 it's insane and so I don't know what the solution is going to be for me frankly I don't mind saying it
02:13:14.960 openly we were looking at various escape strategies uh it gives me great pain to say that because I would
02:13:21.520 love to be able to continue my career here I don't feel as though it is the tenable option over the
02:13:28.160 long run and if this if this isn't tackled say this isn't tackled because no one's tackling it
02:13:33.600 we're seeing this in universities across the west yeah if this isn't tackled what does the university
02:13:38.320 look like in five years time when we see the screams of al-Akbar we see all this going on in the
02:13:42.320 universities now what is it going to be like would it be any jews in university not many no exactly
02:13:47.680 will jewish parents be sending their kids university what will jewish parents still be
02:13:51.760 staying in montreal will jewish is this and then and because people aren't happy with
02:13:57.040 israel many people want to talk about israel is there a safe place for jews to go as this as this
02:14:01.760 grows and grows and grows which is gonna but the problem is so you'll pick up and go somewhere else
02:14:07.360 until the monster comes also there right so for example i was approached by a university in florida
02:14:14.800 that wanted to hire me and florida certainly seems today more amenable to be safe i mean you could
02:14:20.800 carry a gun in florida they're not as insane about their tolerance and all this stuff so it'll give you
02:14:27.280 a respite but the endemic problem is still there is the west whether it be britain or norway or denmark
02:14:34.960 or canada or the us is the west willing to stand up and say look all cultures are not equal that doesn't
02:14:42.480 make you a racist look you and i are both human beings but one of us is taller one of us is more
02:14:50.080 aggressive one of us is kinder one there are differences between us same applies at the cultural
02:14:55.840 level cultures are not the same they're not interchangeable parts some cultures are defined
02:15:02.400 by a certain level of acceptable uh aggression that in other cultures is viewed as negative right
02:15:08.880 in japan it's a conformist society in the west it's an individual society so the idea that all
02:15:15.360 cultures should be equal and should be treated as though they're equal is an insane idea by the way
02:15:19.680 it comes from a parasitic idea called cultural relativism who are you to judge whether other
02:15:25.600 cultures cut off the clitorises of their five-year-old daughters that's racist you have no right to say
02:15:29.760 that you there are no absolute moral truths bigot okay well that can't be we have to inoculate people
02:15:37.360 against these kinds of parasites yes the west has historically had a set of beautiful ideas
02:15:44.000 there is a lot to be proud of in the west anybody is welcome to try to apply to be a member of the west
02:15:50.960 as long as you don't violate a millimeter of our foundational values the second that you violate
02:15:57.680 one millimeter your your ass is back to yemen before you could say allahu akbar which is what needs to
02:16:04.240 happen that's what needs to happen so i'm not you know i don't you know people will write to me oh
02:16:08.800 but you know my friend is muslim he's lovely i don't need to be lectured about that i have more
02:16:13.040 muslim friends than most people will ever meet by virtue of being from lebanon right i grew up playing
02:16:18.400 soccer with i nobody's questioned there are very nice jews there are very nasty jews there are jewish
02:16:24.880 pedophiles there are jewish honorable people that statement applies to every race and every grouping of
02:16:30.640 people we're talking about an ideology does islam permit for the greater flourishing of individual
02:16:38.240 liberties or not if the answer is yes then we need to turn everything into islam if the answer is no
02:16:44.960 then maybe we need to mitigate the influence of islam in the west it's as simple as that
02:16:49.200 and do you see that uh if you want me to uh lie to your face uh yes i see optimism you know there's
02:16:59.760 going to be new change frankly i don't i what about the volume patterns in europe recently the recent
02:17:05.040 volume patterns of europe what about gert wilders what about le pen yes but are they what what are they
02:17:11.440 going to simply stop mass immigration or are they going to reverse some of the trends they need to
02:17:16.560 de-islamize exactly if they do the de-islamization then i think there is hope now again don't get me
02:17:23.600 wrong because people will write to me and say but you know there was a period when islam was the cradle
02:17:28.960 of science and so on no one is questioning that any grouping of what's there or did they take over
02:17:34.000 cultures that already had advancements of that that that is historically true as well i'm trying to
02:17:39.200 be charitable okay okay but the reality is that islam as an ideology has a certain set of tenets
02:17:47.200 some of the tenets are totally harmless they're spiritual tenets and that's great other tenets
02:17:53.200 are either congruent with western liberal values or they're not right there's no other option right
02:18:00.080 if they are incongruent then it can't make sense that 20 minutes from here there could be an imam at the
02:18:06.800 local mosque spewing stuff that would make your skin crawl but it's allowed because it's religious
02:18:13.440 freedom we can't stop it what do you mean you can't stop it there is a thing called sedition right
02:18:18.400 sedition is when you are spreading stuff that is treasonous to the society right now it doesn't
02:18:24.560 somehow get some get a pass because it's a religion so the minute that we lose our reflex to protect
02:18:31.520 religion because it is gauche it is inappropriate to criticize someone's religion the minute that we
02:18:36.960 recognize that nothing is off limits then i think we could flip the script so my whole my whole activism
02:18:44.160 i saw islam was the biggest threat yeah always then come about covid then come about lockdowns then
02:18:52.000 come about vaccinations then i started looking and seeing a bigger enemy or dangerous what's your
02:18:58.320 opinion from gadsad in canada with what because look i looked at the the whole world watch what
02:19:04.400 happened in canada yes yeah where i think i think the canadian truckers probably changed the narrative
02:19:08.960 for the world at that time i was sitting there i'm cheering them on i think most of the people were
02:19:12.640 it took where everyone was waiting for someone to stand up and that started here at that time but
02:19:17.040 what was your opinion with covid when it happened and your government's response uh so i'm going to answer
02:19:24.880 by giving you an anecdote did you know that after most of the sort of world have opened up to covid
02:19:33.120 we still had a night curfew in quebec where you couldn't walk your dog after a certain time time
02:19:43.520 like it goes away at a certain time yeah so let's let's try to see here if you understand this
02:19:48.240 so it's minus 20 you're living in a residential neighborhood now it's minus 20 meaning that it's
02:19:54.880 not like there is a blm riot oh where by the way there's a hundred thousand people with blm you can't
02:20:01.360 spread the covid that's just the fact of the virus if you're progressive you can't spread it to each
02:20:05.680 other okay so if i walk outside my house in a residential area it's minus 20 there's nobody else
02:20:12.160 in sight and i need to have my dog do their business there is an overlord that has said
02:20:19.200 past eight you can't do that now by the way they quickly reversed that one but that doesn't matter
02:20:24.160 the fact that you put it in so now i don't unlike other folks and maybe yourself included i don't
02:20:32.320 think that the covid thing came from a diabolical cabal of davos guys that says let's take i think it's
02:20:40.080 it's more fundamental than that human beings have historically been ruled by authoritarian uh
02:20:50.320 yeah they take they they take the power and they want it exactly control they need it so if you look
02:20:54.720 at the buffet of histories that have a buffet of societies that have existed throughout history
02:21:01.200 the western freedom is a small bleep on the radar of authoritarianism our default mode of government
02:21:10.000 control it's control it's control and so all that happened in the west now is that there was a
02:21:16.320 mechanism by which the natural reflex of the few feudal lords to take over they said aha we can
02:21:25.200 finally return to the natural order of things where we sit on top of the castle tell you what and we
02:21:31.600 tell you what to do so i don't think it's a concerted cabal in switzerland with you know klaus whatever
02:21:38.480 i think it's the natural inclination is if i am leader i'm gonna f your life and now covid thank
02:21:48.560 god has given me that opportunity let's ride that train all the way to its culmination so so yes i was
02:21:55.520 concerned i was frustrated i lost by the way when my parasitic mind came out it was in october 2020
02:22:02.640 starving in the middle of covid now i was fortunate enough to be able to promote the book through my
02:22:08.240 zoom but i ended up losing huge opportunities to go on gigantic shows who wanted me to talk about the
02:22:15.360 book to talk about the book because justin trudeau had decided that i can't leave so i'm with the
02:22:22.320 truckers on this one and with the truckers can we explain the truckers they literally had bank accounts
02:22:28.320 seized they had their bank accounts not only their bank accounts see if you had donated money to
02:22:35.440 support they took the money as well didn't they go fund me they just took the money yeah no it's
02:22:40.400 it's breathtaking it's communism it yeah it and of course what justin trudeau did is he invoked the
02:22:46.000 emergencies act which has now been proven illegal right exactly so it's it's it's mind-boggling based on
02:22:52.480 science any of it as a scientist based on science any almost none of it uh as a matter of fact i mean
02:22:57.840 fauci as you know has come out and said six just made it all up just just made it up but but you
02:23:03.840 know what you can't laugh we laugh about it but people had to miss their lived loved ones while they
02:23:07.760 died people were locked up people are still ill from the consequences of it well and i look i was
02:23:12.960 fortunate enough that even though i had to pivot in a very hard way to change all my courses to be on
02:23:18.800 zoom i my income was not taken from me what about the millions of people who lost their businesses
02:23:25.920 how are you how are you paying them so yes my children could have had a better education were
02:23:32.160 they not mass and were they not on zoom and so on but in in comparison to all of the people who
02:23:38.400 suffered during covet i came out pretty unscathed i didn't lose my income i was still able to be a
02:23:43.760 professor i was still teaching nothing really changed if anything i avoided traffic of having to go on
02:23:48.720 campus but think of the millions of people whose lives were entirely eradicated and no one has paid
02:23:56.960 no one's face no one's face consequence no one is in fact true trudo's been voted back in since then
02:24:01.200 three times since then now what's going on with the public it's been so here what's going on can i tell
02:24:07.760 you uh this is a do you have a small thing you give me like a a prop and okay let's take this one
02:24:16.480 let's suppose that this is the cork of a wine bottle yep there is an arabic expression that says
02:24:23.120 getting drunk simply by smelling the cork of the wine bottle now what it means basically is that you
02:24:29.520 are of such weak constituency that you don't actually need to drink the the wine to get drunk you just
02:24:36.000 take a whiff and you're already drunk now i apply that principle and you'll see in a second what how so
02:24:42.240 look i'm gonna smell now the cork of justin trude are you ready oh he's tall he's got beautiful hair
02:24:49.600 he says some cute empathetic stuff he must be good now let me smell donald trump you ready
02:24:57.040 he's disgusting i hate him he's a pig he speaks in a brawling he speaks in a queen's way brawling way
02:25:06.960 now why am i saying all this because people simply get drunk by the cork of the image of the
02:25:14.800 politician they don't do the hard work of saying i love justin trudeau because of these seven policies
02:25:22.400 as a matter of fact i used to ask people because i was so baffled that you couldn't see just what a
02:25:30.720 gigantic shmuck he was that and and the answer would be well frankly it's because i love to smoke
02:25:38.400 pot and he legalized pot frankly it's because i mean he's gorgeous by the way i don't think he's
02:25:44.800 gorgeous at all as a matter of fact you know megan kelly is yeah megan kelly is a very high profile
02:25:50.720 journalist we've become good friends i've been on her show a few times she's been on
02:25:54.560 point she's gorgeous the reason why i'm mentioning her is because when she came on my show and we
02:26:01.520 were talking about our respective misdain for uh justin trudeau she said something that made me even
02:26:09.360 love her more she said i don't what woman wants that guy on top of her what woman wants that guy
02:26:16.000 can't handle in the bedroom and i said i love this one because she's a real woman she she sees what
02:26:23.040 masculinity is she gets it and she she assumes her mass femininity and appreciates a truly
02:26:30.160 masculine man you know who are the women who love justin trudeau they were my middle-aged female
02:26:35.200 professors colleagues who on my on my personal facebook friend uh face a page were writing things that if it
02:26:44.480 had been a male colleague of mine writing this about female politicians yeah big classes
02:26:50.720 yeah but they were able to say my god he's dreaming i'm having uh nighttime emissions
02:26:58.720 thinking about him he is amazing what an orgasm really that's why you picked him but now you
02:27:04.240 didn't pick him only once but by the way i should mention in a sense it's unfair to say that canadians
02:27:08.800 picked him because of our parliamentary system you have to at no point that they more than i think
02:27:15.600 39 percent voted for him so the great majority how many more percent of people actually vote as
02:27:20.480 well actually i don't know that number but you're right it's gonna be a minority it's gonna be a
02:27:24.240 minority of a minority so that's one of the the faults of a parliamentary system is that even though you
02:27:30.240 might have a great majority of people who don't like you you can end up serving three mandates as
02:27:36.400 prime minister trump or biden uh until i just saw a poll yesterday where apparently now uh biden is two
02:27:48.640 points ahead what yeah yeah it just came out now of course was it a cnn poll no no no actually it was
02:27:55.200 like a non-walk poll no so that really stopped me in my tracks because if after all you're seeing and
02:28:03.680 biden gets back in we're finished we deserve to be finished that's if it's legitimate of course i'm
02:28:08.800 sure there's gonna be a lot of scamming and cheating and so on but by the way speaking of the inability
02:28:14.160 of people to alter their decisions uh i spoke last week in toronto at a jewish event the organization is
02:28:24.080 called pefsik and i started off by reading out i had just seen this tweet and so this wasn't going to
02:28:30.240 be part of my my lecture in 2020 the difference in american jews in voting for biden versus trump
02:28:42.080 was 38 points higher for biden no in 2024 so just remember the number 38 what is it so it could be
02:28:52.400 higher lower it could be the same which one is it it's going to be lower it's going to be less
02:28:56.640 less people are voting for biden yes by by the same as the black community are all shifting towards
02:29:01.840 trump it's the exact same number 38 points so let's let me so in 2020 yeah 30 percent more jews
02:29:13.520 voted for biden than trump okay then four years happened including october 7 any human being with a
02:29:23.120 functioning brain takes in new information and then revises their position in light of incoming
02:29:29.840 information when it comes to jews and the needle hasn't moved by a single percent what therefore
02:29:39.040 you deserve what you get yeah the people that's what people can sound with the people who voted for
02:29:43.440 it what's the so the jewish vote hasn't changed not one percent the only thing that's changed i think it was
02:29:49.600 like 30 68 to 30 and now it's 61 to 23 so so the the percentages but that same 38 point difference
02:30:01.360 by the way uh i was recently asked the black communities changed i don't so i don't know i
02:30:06.640 don't know what makes the the jewish mind somehow and i think somehow they're unable to extricate
02:30:13.600 themselves from we are progressive we are empathetic we are tolerant the democrats and of course they're
02:30:20.400 not but the democrats are the party they're the liberal they're the progressive by the way i've
02:30:24.960 had a lot of people in canada tell me i vote liberal because i'm a liberal person i say but the
02:30:31.280 liberal party are liberal exactly are you aware that the liberal party is about as illiberal as you can get
02:30:38.080 no no no but there's there's the word liberal in the title of the party i can't vote conservative i'm
02:30:44.720 not a conservative person but that speaks to getting drunk by the court right it's just a label and i get
02:30:52.320 drunk by the label because thinking is too hard for me and therefore i better just get drunk by spelling
02:30:58.320 the court i'm liberal i vote because we've seen lots of the progressive jewish groups in the hierarchy in
02:31:03.520 the uk who would have condemned us yeah and would always have their pictures taken for for diversity
02:31:09.680 which are out of touch i'd say with the mainstream jewish population because the mainstream jewish
02:31:13.040 population are awake now in the uk yeah and those same groups it's like after october 7th it's like
02:31:18.400 well where are the where the muslims you have any pictures taken with yeah well they're marching
02:31:22.800 down the road calling for the genocide of the jews right so so have those folks come around to you
02:31:27.920 that's a hundred percent oh good one no no not those no not the hierarchy because the hierarchy
02:31:31.920 with the elitist group groups within the jewish community they don't be associated but they're
02:31:36.560 still so out of touch so if i if and and essentially my arrest on october on november 26th when i went to
02:31:42.000 the anti-semitism rally to report i received an amazing reception from the jewish community yeah
02:31:47.840 everywhere i go from the jewish community amount of support i've received since since since the
02:31:52.320 riffraff it's not the elite yeah i would say is that yeah the mainstream jews yeah
02:31:57.760 not the elite but the elite are the same as our elite like whether they're jewish elite or whether
02:32:02.400 they're boris johnson elite yeah they're the elite and they don't care about us anyway so or they're
02:32:07.440 out of touch with the the average community exactly well one thing one thing that i take from a lot of
02:32:13.360 your questions that you you have this uh undying optimism uh which i think you need to have otherwise
02:32:20.800 you wouldn't be able to to do your work right yeah i haven't not well look maybe it's desperation
02:32:26.720 rather than optimism maybe i'm just wanting it maybe we keep wanting it but no i know i have
02:32:32.320 that in the sense of i think i think my fingers on the pulse and it has been for many years and i
02:32:36.080 didn't have that optimism six months ago yeah yeah i have the optimism now that people who hated me
02:32:41.840 don't hate me people who didn't want to listen to this debate are now listening in massive numbers
02:32:47.200 i think on our last one we had 900 000 people watching live yeah 900 000 watching live that's a
02:32:52.480 million people who are and i look back through i think i went on good morning britain with piers
02:32:57.120 morgan it was the most viewed show they've ever had yeah the public need this debate the public want
02:33:03.200 these discussions these public are desperate for someone to say what needs to be said and all those
02:33:08.000 people have been censored and thankfully now there's a movement or more there's more commentators now
02:33:12.240 having these discussions than ever before right than ever before the commentators who used to condemn me
02:33:16.320 are now sitting saying exactly what we're saying so you're getting invited to this platform
02:33:21.040 no in the past you would have never been invited no people are associating me that wouldn't have but
02:33:24.960 certain people who would have condemned me and now sitting on tv and i'm watching them parrot what
02:33:30.240 i was saying 10 years ago yeah but now it's they're allowed to say it yeah they're allowed to
02:33:34.480 say it but we were far right hooligans for for saying the same i think there's a there and i can
02:33:39.600 gauge by the reception i receive walking down the street everywhere yeah so i can see well the public are
02:33:45.680 awake the public are feeling this yeah and again i'm not optimistic there there's there's a solution
02:33:51.120 without chaos there's going to be chaos regrettably i agree with you i'd rather the chaos be our us
02:33:57.120 trying to sort the problem out than october 7th situations across europe yeah and across the west
02:34:02.960 how long do you think we are away from the october 7th across europe well we we were two weeks
02:34:09.360 away from it last week in the uk when free muslims were arrested with machine guns
02:34:13.040 right we've stopped many many attacks i think that you'll be able to rewind this when it happens
02:34:19.520 they're going to hit a school they're going to hit a school they're going to hit a school probably a
02:34:23.200 jewish school yeah so that's what i think that and they found plans muslim terrorists were stopped
02:34:27.600 with plans in london of jewish schools yeah they'll hit a school and i keep saying what will be the
02:34:32.480 moment there'll be a defining moment in history it changed the directions of our nation in northern
02:34:36.400 ireland it was bloody sunday that changed it something will happen in europe who knows what it's going to be
02:34:41.360 yeah if it wasn't ariana grande concert when they blew up 25 children yeah if that wasn't enough if
02:34:46.800 lee rigby being beheaded on the street wasn't enough and after each of these incidents so lee
02:34:50.400 rigby got beheaded on the street a soldier was beheaded yeah the late and this is where the lying
02:34:56.240 corrupt politicians come in yeah a soldier was beheaded the the killer mike radibalajo handed 52 verses
02:35:02.880 from the quran to a woman in the street that he says forced him to do that attack yeah the next day nick
02:35:08.960 clegg stood who was a deputy prime minister stood on tv and said in the quran it says if you kill one
02:35:15.920 man you kill all of humanity that's what he said and they didn't carry on reading obviously anyone
02:35:21.120 who knows the verse says unless they cause mischief what was the verse that lee rigby's killer handed
02:35:26.880 over that he says forced him to do it it was that exact verse and that exact verse was it from his from
02:35:32.320 his opinion lee rigby had been part of an invading british army into a muslim land who had caused mischief
02:35:37.280 mischief so and it says if you cause mischief must be executed have your hands and feet carved but
02:35:42.640 our politicians i think so many people now are waking up to the fact since covid especially covid
02:35:47.120 has helped massively the lies of the media the lies of the politicians the lies of all of them got the
02:35:52.400 open border immigration which goes against the interests of the british public the canadian public
02:35:56.560 the the chaos and the level of violence and ferocity that they're bringing in and importing into our
02:36:00.480 countries so yeah i am optimistic but i uh i'm optimistic that many more people are having these
02:36:05.840 conversations i'm optimistic when i sit and see many more discussions being had like this because
02:36:10.160 more free speech or more conversation on this issue is what's needed without the labeling of
02:36:15.600 racist or islamophobe or extremist or hate preacher did any of those insults ever get to you or
02:36:22.080 you just really go like this no they got to me yeah no they got to me in the sense of um
02:36:28.080 they got to me in the sense i wear the hat proudly of being against islamic ideology yeah because i'm
02:36:34.960 if i walk down the street tomorrow someone wants to kill me i'll my head's up yeah when i when i spoke
02:36:40.160 out against black lives matter as an ideology as a marxist ideology i remember walking down the street
02:36:46.480 because it blew up in the uk for me and i remember seeing some black people look at me and i remember
02:36:51.200 seeing them look at me differently you know and i thought i'm not wearing that hat i don't because
02:36:55.200 i'm brought up in a town most of my best mates are black yeah i don't care about black or white but i
02:36:59.200 then had then i was wearing that hat as as being viewed by some but that's gone full 360 as well
02:37:05.200 so whereas i was hated for that little period of time the black community have gone on to realize it
02:37:10.160 was a marxist scam yeah it wasn't to do with black lives the last thing it was to do with black lives
02:37:15.040 but did the names i think it got to me in the sense of um with my kids possibly saying with you does it
02:37:20.800 did it worry your children does it it worries my children even i had my son message me this
02:37:25.520 morning about jail again so or their what their worries and then they them at school when the
02:37:33.040 people classing their dad as a racist difficult yeah difficult for me to see if there's there was 30
02:37:38.800 kids in the class my son my son's school 29 were getting invited to a party he didn't he never got
02:37:44.000 invited ever and i'll see that and i think he's getting judged and how he how does as a child how
02:37:50.720 has he dealt with that so but that's the reason that they bring these labels in to to make you toxic
02:37:56.880 to make people scared to make people not want to associate with you i think again we've we've gone
02:38:01.440 through that now the public don't care in the uk about the media no one buys the media and no one
02:38:06.400 cares what they say i laugh sometimes i mean i think i've done our last demonstration the daily
02:38:10.560 mail run a real negative article about us and i was on stage and said like you've your articles
02:38:15.200 had 68 shares 900 000 people are watching no one's reading your article anymore your monopoly of power
02:38:21.520 has gone yeah your smear campaign has gone because there are so many citizen journalists now well i mean
02:38:26.080 that's why when when when elon musk uh you know bought twitter he could be the biggest this could be
02:38:32.160 remembered as the biggest savior of freedom of speech and so i very shortly after he bought it i did a
02:38:39.680 clip on my on my channel on my show where i basically argued that of all of the great
02:38:45.200 entrepreneurial initiatives that he's taking collectively all of them together pale compared
02:38:51.200 to what he did yeah yeah for the future yeah yeah give us back what would has been taken that they
02:38:57.520 want and they're not that censorship isn't about stopping what i say or what you say it's about stopping
02:39:02.800 what they hear exactly and elon must give us back that platform yeah hail to elon a hundred percent
02:39:09.520 what's your opinion of elon other than that oh i i love him i mean we've we've uh we've actually gotten
02:39:14.560 to know each other very well uh we've we've met uh he's invited me down to austin uh he's been a big
02:39:22.240 supporter of my work and wow person like mine uh so yeah it's it's wonderful to have him on on your
02:39:29.200 side uh and you know what was really nice about elon which people may not know is you know we we sit
02:39:36.160 down together and there's no pretense you you would never he doesn't he doesn't act haughty he's not
02:39:43.600 it's very personable it's no he's he's lovely in every possible way and for me when i look at
02:39:48.720 someone like elon musk same as donald trump i think he didn't need to do this he was loved yeah so
02:39:53.040 elon musk he was loved yeah no one there was no negativity about him really yeah yeah now with doing
02:39:58.080 this he's opened himself up to facing a backlash or facing an onslaught of hate yeah which he didn't
02:40:02.960 need to and spent 44 billion pounds to do it but didn't need to do it absolutely and you know it's
02:40:08.800 going to take people like that all of these guys i think are truly honey badgers right because you
02:40:14.080 can sense that look it affects all of us when we are reviled what was it who was his comment
02:40:19.520 fuck yourself i love that who was it too the disney the disney it was about disney oh if it's not
02:40:27.280 clear go fuck yourself yeah to do with advertisement because that's how they rule everyone that's how
02:40:32.640 they manage to censor everything because they threaten the corporations from the top down the
02:40:37.040 ones controlling what we hear and see but that's that's what i think that's what makes him elon musk
02:40:42.560 right or or any historical figure right but what makes somebody historic right is that they they're
02:40:49.360 not a fence sitter they don't equivocate they don't play both sides but but that's what
02:40:53.840 politicians do right christopher hitchens who hails from who's brilliant right i mean this is a guy that
02:40:59.680 you were i mean it was such a thrill to listen to him even if in cases where you might have disagreed
02:41:05.840 with some of his positions iraq war yes no we don't we can discuss but boy was he a honey badger i mean
02:41:11.840 if you came to a debate with him you you you better doctors doctors murray he's another one by the way
02:41:17.920 he was here he was just here much i heard you were supposed to to meet and we didn't get a chance
02:41:22.080 to meet but uh douglas murray's another one all of these guys share the same sort of uh immunity from
02:41:30.720 caring about what people think and they just forge forward and that's why they become the figures that
02:41:37.920 they become you've named a lot how many books have you wrote god uh five five can you tell us what the
02:41:43.760 names of them and where people can get them oh thank you uh so the first one was in 2007 the
02:41:48.320 evolutionary bases of consumption this is a book explaining how you apply evolutionary psychology to
02:41:53.440 consumer behavior that was an academic book so it's a bit more technical my next book was an edited
02:41:59.280 book called evolutionary psychology of the business sciences then then i started writing more for
02:42:04.800 the masses for the late people so my next book in 2011 was called the consuming instinct what juicy
02:42:12.000 burgers ferrari ferrari's pornography and gift giving reveal about human nature then the next
02:42:19.840 one was the parasitic mind howard fascist ideas are killing common sense that came out of 2020
02:42:25.600 that's your most important one that's because of the topic yes exactly that's the one that that's
02:42:30.720 been an international bestseller but i think translated in 22 wow languages now or something around
02:42:37.680 there so yeah that's been a big one the next one was the sad truth about happiness eight secrets for
02:42:44.000 leading the good life uh which came out last year and then the next one is going to be suicidal empathy
02:42:52.080 how when empathy misfires you leave it results in the kinds of problems that we've been talking about
02:42:57.760 and where can people buy them amazon so in your hall buy them on amazon and of course uh through my my
02:43:03.920 various publishers uh my last two books were through red memory but all of the five books are on amazon
02:43:10.240 and finally gad i've enjoyed after a couple of your time here i've enjoyed the conversation what is
02:43:14.080 the future for gadsad the future for gadsad is we're very and be honest uh professionally just in
02:43:21.360 life is it good is it bad is it well god willing it's very good it's filled with uh purpose and meaning
02:43:27.760 uh it is uh seeing my children flourish and surpass their father any any good dad or mom should always
02:43:37.360 have the humility to say not that you just want your children to grow up to be good people you want
02:43:41.920 them to be even better people than you so hopefully i keep my fingers crossed for that to continue having
02:43:47.600 a beautiful marriage with my wife and being healthy and meeting interesting guys like family robinson and
02:43:53.760 do you know what i want to end on actually because gads you have as i said it earlier you've aged like
02:43:58.320 wine remember we spoke eight years ago i dug the picture up yeah you look very well okay you look
02:44:03.360 like i've had a massive improvement in your health and in the way in your visibility the way you look
02:44:07.200 how is that because if people are watching this that are feeling unhealthy or in a position
02:44:11.760 like a low point in their life what what have you done one of the reasons why i wrote the happiness book
02:44:17.040 is because whenever i would share some advice on life people would take so much to it including
02:44:23.360 how i ended up losing so how much is your weight so my my heaviest weight to my lightest weight
02:44:29.120 i'm now about six seven pounds more than my lightest okay but still very much thinner i lost 86 pounds
02:44:36.000 what's 86 pounds and maybe six pounds of stone so divided by 14 so maybe seven okay that's a lot of weight
02:44:43.920 yeah so how yeah so a few things number one 90 of your weight is through this oh yeah and i can't
02:44:53.600 control you i'd rather train twice and about 10 is through exercise so number one i used covet to turn
02:45:02.240 it into a positive is that when you started your yeah i mean i started maybe a month or two earlier but
02:45:06.720 it's really the bulk of it was through covet it's 15 so 1600 calories a day but measured to the t i've had
02:45:16.400 that this morning how was that then uh my wife who i call her my food gestapo uh she will keep track
02:45:25.600 of every single no hey she gave me 600 calories in the morning yesterday oh you were firing cream
02:45:30.320 cake to me okay so so she she i would be no more than 15 to 16 measured weights 15 to 20 000 steps a
02:45:43.120 day no matter what yeah every day every day it's been actually for before even i started losing weight
02:45:50.000 it's been about four or five years i do 15 20 000 steps no matter what it could be minus 20 outside
02:45:54.880 now it could be i do stationary bike it could be a treadmill it could be a long walk it could be
02:45:59.440 anything but at the end of the day i have to certainly have reached between 15 000 20 000
02:46:04.240 steps uh has that got easier does it get better to someone who's sitting at home who hasn't walked
02:46:08.880 in months or years just start small steps i know it sounds like cliche start 2 000 steps take a 10
02:46:16.240 minute walk just don't sit sedentary in your living room uh and you know
02:46:22.640 eight you do that every day routine everything every single day the totality of decisions you
02:46:32.640 made results in only one of three outcomes to your weight yes your weight could either go up that day
02:46:38.080 it could stay the same or it could go down yes now let's suppose that i just make sure that every single
02:46:45.200 day it's down now it could be point zero zero down right but if every single day for 180 consecutive
02:46:54.000 days that statement holds true i'll get on the scale and i'll go oh my god i can't believe it i
02:46:58.640 lost 42 pounds what i mean by that is it's it's also a psychological mindset if you get on the scale
02:47:04.320 and you say how am i ever going to lose 50 pounds it seems impossible it won't be impossible but if you
02:47:09.280 say it's actually just a daily battle i need today to be thinner than yesterday even if it's by two
02:47:15.680 millimeters and do that over enough days you end up looking as gorgeous and svelte design and how much
02:47:23.440 better do you feel from from that time how much did how much confidence does it give you how much better
02:47:29.520 do you feel or how much huge huge not so much from a vanity perspective to be honest with you because i
02:47:34.560 think had it been vanity i would have never let it get out of control in the first place yes it's great
02:47:38.960 to be able to look good for people to comment about your looks and so on the most important
02:47:43.040 thing for me and it may apply to your viewers or not it was the psychological weight the following
02:47:48.720 way i i have health anxiety meaning that i don't like to go do my physical every year because i'm
02:47:54.320 always worried what if it gives me some devastating news right so i'm always concerned about my weight
02:47:58.480 and i was thinking well i've got young children i'm very overweight what's that example my my blood
02:48:04.720 pressure is starting to creep up for someone who want who is anxious about their health what's
02:48:10.640 the best way to remove that anxiety be thin bring back your blood pressure and so once i got rid of
02:48:17.200 that so that when i go see my physician and he does my blood pressure and now it's like that of a 12 year
02:48:22.000 old then that's the way that i think i have most benefit from more than the size of my waist yeah
02:48:28.720 god it's been um very enjoyable and it's been an absolute honor to meet you it's so good i wish you
02:48:34.480 luck cheers thank you god cheers that was good if you're watching that we're still centered on most
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02:48:47.680 cheers man thanks carry on watching for more interesting guests i'll talk to anyone i'll debate
02:48:56.000 anyone i'll hear anyone's story if you want to help me along that way it's not free i need your
02:49:03.200 support if you can support my family that gives me my peace of mind it means i can continue to do the
02:49:08.160 work i do i appreciate every bit of support as do my children gives me the ability to fly them out here
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