The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - June 03, 2024


My Latest Appearance on The Rubin Report - Academia, Immigration, & Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_678)


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1 hour and 4 minutes

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11,872

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247

Misogynist Sentences

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In this episode of The Rubin Report, I sit down with evolutionary biologist, author, and rabble rouser Dr. Steven Pinker. We talk about his new book, "The Top of the Mountain: How to Live a Happy Life" and much more.

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00:00:00.000 There's an expression in the Arab world,
00:00:02.560 first we come for the Saturday people,
00:00:04.840 then we come for the Sunday people.
00:00:07.000 The Saturday people are the Jews,
00:00:09.440 but it doesn't stop with the Jews.
00:00:11.280 Then we come for the Sunday people, the Christians, right?
00:00:13.760 Or the old, I quote this in the person,
00:00:16.240 I don't remember the exact quote, you know,
00:00:18.400 first they came for this and then I ignored it.
00:00:20.140 They came for the trade unionists.
00:00:22.620 I ignored it.
00:00:24.140 So it's the same principle, which is many people,
00:00:27.260 to our earlier point,
00:00:28.300 you only react when the knock comes on your door
00:00:31.800 until there is no diabetes.
00:00:33.620 No one in my family has diabetes, so it can't be real.
00:00:36.880 And so I think the Christians and the other Muslims
00:00:39.440 that are in the West have to wake up
00:00:41.340 because the ideology that might first have their sight
00:00:46.140 on the Jews won't stop at them, right?
00:00:48.420 I mean, as we both know, in many cases,
00:00:52.860 the biggest victims of Islamic extremism are Muslims, right?
00:00:58.300 Because you're not Muslim enough, right?
00:01:00.160 So ISIS killed mainly Muslims.
00:01:04.000 They weren't able to get to the Jews.
00:01:06.420 And so you can't simply say,
00:01:09.800 this doesn't affect me because ultimately,
00:01:11.940 anti-Semitism doesn't come to my home.
00:01:14.760 I'm Christian.
00:01:15.440 I'm living in Arkansas.
00:01:16.820 Give it five years.
00:01:18.020 Give it 50 years.
00:01:18.820 Give it 500 years.
00:01:19.840 It will come for you.
00:01:20.940 And so act now rather than then.
00:01:30.220 I'm here with a man who I think needs no introduction
00:01:33.040 at this point, at least to be on this show.
00:01:35.580 He is an evolutionary scientist.
00:01:37.580 He is an author.
00:01:38.920 He is a professor.
00:01:40.920 He is a rabble rouser.
00:01:42.920 Dare I say a bit of a Twitter troll?
00:01:45.360 Can I say a bit of teeny tiny?
00:01:47.620 If it demands it.
00:01:48.400 A bit of a Twitter troll.
00:01:49.740 My old friend Gad said the first ever guest on the Rubin Report.
00:01:54.200 This is probably your dozen,
00:01:56.620 maybe 12th, 14th, 15th appearance on the show.
00:02:00.080 It's also, this is the first time we've done this setup.
00:02:02.920 Gorgeous.
00:02:03.360 What do you think?
00:02:03.960 We thought we'd do something a little friendlier,
00:02:05.740 not so oppositional.
00:02:07.040 And you are looking trim.
00:02:09.300 Should we start there?
00:02:10.320 You also have lost a bunch of weight.
00:02:12.300 I have.
00:02:12.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:13.040 You're out there kicking the soccer balls,
00:02:14.780 playing basketball.
00:02:15.720 We're going to shoot some hoops later.
00:02:17.080 I didn't bring any attire,
00:02:19.640 but we'll see what happens.
00:02:20.880 We'll get you out there.
00:02:21.720 But no, but you are trim.
00:02:23.980 And that fits with your last book,
00:02:25.680 which is all about happiness.
00:02:27.060 Apparently taking care of yourself has something to do with that.
00:02:29.500 Indeed.
00:02:29.900 You know, the psychological weight of having young children
00:02:34.840 and not putting all the odds in my favor.
00:02:37.780 My physician kept saying the blood pressure is starting to inch up.
00:02:42.740 You need to lose weight.
00:02:44.400 And there's nothing better than having young children
00:02:47.160 and you want to be around for them as long as possible.
00:02:49.520 So when COVID came around,
00:02:51.080 I thought let's turn this really draconian negative into a positive.
00:02:55.960 Stopped eating, started training and lost tons of weight.
00:02:59.020 Well, I feel you, man,
00:03:00.120 because you just met the two 20-month-olds out there.
00:03:02.640 And I got a couple of years that I need to stay in shape.
00:03:05.420 So anyway, we could talk about our physiques all day long,
00:03:08.060 but let's talk about things going on in the world.
00:03:11.000 Well, you know, at first,
00:03:11.720 why don't we start where I usually start with you
00:03:13.580 when I have you in studio,
00:03:14.720 which is we've been doing this a long time now.
00:03:17.300 I mean, that first interview we did was 2015, nine years ago.
00:03:21.060 It feels like many lifetimes ago for me.
00:03:23.620 Do you feel that somehow all of the things that you and I
00:03:27.820 and a bunch of other people were talking about,
00:03:29.860 Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson,
00:03:31.140 and everyone knows the list,
00:03:32.700 that did we somehow miss the mark?
00:03:34.480 Because the world has seemingly gotten worse in the nine years.
00:03:38.340 It's so frustrating, right?
00:03:39.740 Because, I mean, to go back to the earlier point about health,
00:03:42.880 imagine if you go see your physician
00:03:44.400 and he or she keeps warning you,
00:03:46.900 screaming from top of the mountain,
00:03:48.340 you've got to do X, Y, Z,
00:03:49.740 and you just keep ignoring it.
00:03:51.460 And then bad things happen.
00:03:53.120 That's exactly what's happened with,
00:03:54.940 you know, the ecosystem that we operate in,
00:03:57.280 which is many of us have been standing on top of the mountain,
00:04:00.220 some of us in the media,
00:04:01.300 some of us in academia,
00:04:02.220 some of us in both,
00:04:03.580 saying, guys, this is what's coming down the pipeline,
00:04:06.940 and yet people don't want to hear it.
00:04:08.540 Do you think we did anything wrong?
00:04:10.540 Do you think there was a way?
00:04:11.580 Or is the guy who yells from the top of the mountain,
00:04:15.140 is he always ignored?
00:04:16.260 That's sort of repetitive in human history.
00:04:17.960 So I've been recently talking about the idea
00:04:20.040 that there is a, unfortunately,
00:04:22.760 a poor design of the architecture of the human mind,
00:04:25.920 whereby you ignore things
00:04:28.060 unless it comes and hits you exactly in your home, right?
00:04:31.880 So take someone like Bill Ackman,
00:04:33.540 whom I really respect and I love what he's doing,
00:04:36.080 but Bill Ackman only woke up
00:04:38.540 when it hit his alma mater,
00:04:41.620 hit, you know, Jewish-related issues.
00:04:45.260 But had he, you know,
00:04:46.960 been awake to many of these things,
00:04:49.600 maybe he could have entered the fray a bit earlier.
00:04:52.080 For people that don't know him real quick,
00:04:54.500 he's basically a tech guy,
00:04:56.280 billionaire tech guy, very influential.
00:04:57.780 He's built some great products
00:04:58.700 and sort of woke up after October 7th.
00:05:01.740 Although, did you happen to see that
00:05:03.280 just four or five days ago,
00:05:05.680 he had retweeted a video of Ron DeSantis
00:05:08.040 saying that there never was a Palestinian state
00:05:10.260 and why you should call it Judea and Samaria
00:05:12.200 and not the West Bank
00:05:13.600 and a bunch of other truths.
00:05:15.020 He retweeted it and then deleted it
00:05:17.220 when he got pushback.
00:05:18.500 So he's still not there yet.
00:05:20.160 And I say that with the same sort of respect
00:05:22.160 that you're referring to.
00:05:23.720 Yeah, you always want to encourage people.
00:05:25.460 I mean, you don't want to go to people
00:05:26.560 and hammer them and say,
00:05:28.020 hey, you're coming too late to the game.
00:05:29.560 You still want to encourage people
00:05:30.880 better late than never.
00:05:32.460 But it is frustrating because,
00:05:34.260 look, the problem will eventually get solved,
00:05:37.340 but it can either get solved
00:05:38.680 with a lot less violence,
00:05:40.060 a lot less cost,
00:05:41.040 or it can get solved later down the line
00:05:42.900 with more cost.
00:05:43.920 Kind of like you catch the cancer early
00:05:46.200 or you catch it when it's metastasized
00:05:48.440 and it's stage four.
00:05:49.280 But evolutionarily,
00:05:51.060 do we just always wait till it's too bad?
00:05:54.500 I mean, what are societies
00:05:55.920 that were heading off the cliff that didn't?
00:05:58.260 Like, is there evidence that groups
00:05:59.740 just don't do the worst thing possible over time?
00:06:04.720 It depends.
00:06:05.340 I mean, there is something called
00:06:06.900 the negativity bias,
00:06:08.240 which would argue against what we're discussing,
00:06:10.220 which is we tend to pay more attention
00:06:13.360 to negative information
00:06:14.840 than we tend to be equivalent
00:06:17.720 and symmetric on the positive side,
00:06:19.720 precisely because ignoring positive information
00:06:22.480 doesn't loom, evolutionarily speaking,
00:06:24.500 as big as ignoring negative information.
00:06:28.620 And so you would think,
00:06:29.520 according to the negativity bias,
00:06:30.940 everybody should be attuned to these things.
00:06:32.980 But I think it's too scary.
00:06:34.400 And hence, that's why in the parasitic mind,
00:06:36.200 if you might remember in chapter six,
00:06:37.680 I have a whole chapter on ostrich parasitic syndrome.
00:06:40.360 And here again,
00:06:41.800 even though the ostrich doesn't literally
00:06:43.740 bury its head in the sand,
00:06:45.060 the metaphor is very apt
00:06:46.300 because it describes
00:06:47.300 the natural default value of people,
00:06:49.740 which is bury my head in the sand
00:06:51.180 and hopefully cross fingers,
00:06:52.960 the problem will go away.
00:06:53.920 It doesn't.
00:06:54.720 So are you seeing now,
00:06:56.160 maybe since October 7th,
00:06:57.800 and then also relative to what's going on
00:06:59.500 with our borders
00:07:00.180 and a whole bunch of other stuff,
00:07:01.540 that maybe a few more ostriches
00:07:03.600 are at least peeking out of the sand
00:07:05.580 every now and again?
00:07:06.460 It seems like they're getting there.
00:07:07.700 That's sort of what you're referring to with Ackman.
00:07:09.460 But the question is
00:07:10.920 how to complete the hero's journey with them.
00:07:13.960 So yes, and even in academia,
00:07:15.560 I'm starting to see
00:07:16.660 a growing number of academics
00:07:18.100 very gently pulling their head out of the sand,
00:07:21.360 but not at a speed
00:07:23.500 that I would like them to, right?
00:07:25.280 So, you know,
00:07:26.180 the monster is coming at you
00:07:27.580 at 100 miles per hour
00:07:29.220 and you're auto-correcting
00:07:30.380 at two miles an hour.
00:07:31.480 That doesn't,
00:07:32.280 it's not a fast enough auto-correction.
00:07:34.540 So yes,
00:07:35.560 there is some optimistic signals out there,
00:07:38.440 but not fast enough.
00:07:40.800 Has the academic layer of all of this
00:07:42.500 been the most shocking part of it to you
00:07:44.440 that so many of the academics
00:07:46.780 that you work with,
00:07:47.660 and I want to talk about Concordia specifically
00:07:49.460 because you've got a serious headache
00:07:51.040 on your hands over there,
00:07:52.620 but that so many professors
00:07:54.300 who are tenured
00:07:56.440 and should not only be teaching
00:07:58.820 the right things,
00:07:59.380 I'm sort of past that point,
00:08:00.520 let's say they're going to teach
00:08:01.320 the wrong things,
00:08:01.840 but at least still be able to stand up
00:08:03.640 for some basic principles
00:08:04.980 that we thought they believed in
00:08:06.080 that they have checked out too.
00:08:08.100 Yeah, so I,
00:08:08.920 and this is not to be facetious,
00:08:10.600 but I really,
00:08:11.260 I often argue that
00:08:13.240 I discovered a new species.
00:08:15.640 They're called academics
00:08:16.840 and they're defined
00:08:18.240 by being invertebrate castrati.
00:08:21.300 Invertebrate because they have no spine
00:08:22.860 and castrati because they don't have
00:08:24.620 any testicles, right?
00:08:25.900 And it's really regrettable
00:08:27.280 because you would think
00:08:28.260 as a tenured professor,
00:08:29.680 there is an institutional mechanism
00:08:31.880 that protects you
00:08:33.220 precisely so that you can speak your mind,
00:08:35.600 so that you can do the research
00:08:36.720 that you...
00:08:37.320 It's quite literally
00:08:37.900 the whole point of tenureship, right?
00:08:38.940 That's literally the whole point, right?
00:08:40.520 That's, I mean,
00:08:40.940 you had Socrates who was executed,
00:08:42.980 you had Galileo
00:08:43.800 who was put under house arrest.
00:08:45.460 We decided that we can't have academics
00:08:47.880 not be able to engage in free thought.
00:08:50.540 Therefore, we created a mechanism
00:08:51.860 called tenure that says,
00:08:53.400 I can't fire you
00:08:54.300 unless you do ethical
00:08:55.800 or moral or criminal breaches.
00:08:57.480 I can never fire you
00:08:58.620 for anything that you say or write.
00:09:00.580 Well, that's great.
00:09:01.280 So then, why don't you speak?
00:09:03.220 But what ends up happening
00:09:04.720 is that most academics,
00:09:05.980 first, they're extremely cowardly,
00:09:08.240 perhaps in part because
00:09:09.420 there is a self-selection bias
00:09:11.820 against what I call
00:09:13.340 intellectual Navy SEALs, right?
00:09:15.240 I mean, Navy SEALs,
00:09:16.260 you do pick them
00:09:16.980 because they have to be brawny,
00:09:18.500 they have to be courageous,
00:09:19.700 they have to be athletic.
00:09:21.120 In academia,
00:09:22.040 we might pick people
00:09:22.940 who are smart,
00:09:24.420 but they're not
00:09:25.500 intellectual honey badgers.
00:09:27.280 They're quite timid,
00:09:28.300 they're tepid,
00:09:28.920 they weren't the jocks.
00:09:30.420 I mean, I'm being a bit
00:09:31.920 maybe hyperbolic,
00:09:33.080 but they really,
00:09:33.940 they lack that combative nature.
00:09:36.480 But are you surprised
00:09:37.380 that was across the board
00:09:38.540 in our institutions?
00:09:39.780 That it doesn't,
00:09:40.220 like now there are some universities
00:09:41.820 that are a little bit better
00:09:42.980 or at least aiming that way,
00:09:44.220 Ralston College
00:09:44.980 and University of Austin,
00:09:46.940 but that virtually everybody
00:09:48.760 in the Ivy League
00:09:49.520 chose the timid one
00:09:50.860 instead of going to that.
00:09:51.580 It doesn't surprise me
00:09:52.380 because I've existed
00:09:53.200 in that ecosystem
00:09:53.960 my whole life, right?
00:09:55.160 So when I go
00:09:56.240 to departmental meetings,
00:09:57.600 we usually have committees
00:09:59.740 to decide on striking
00:10:01.260 a task force
00:10:02.220 to study the feasibility
00:10:03.740 of having coffee
00:10:05.540 in the faculty lounge.
00:10:07.000 So it'll take us
00:10:07.820 five years of feasibility studies
00:10:09.500 before we decide
00:10:10.340 to have a $30 coffee machine.
00:10:12.800 So that...
00:10:13.200 How's the coffee?
00:10:13.760 Not very good.
00:10:15.120 So, you know,
00:10:16.080 it's very,
00:10:16.680 it moves slowly,
00:10:17.880 it's glacial speed,
00:10:19.340 it's very,
00:10:20.860 you know,
00:10:21.180 there's a lot of niceness.
00:10:22.540 So people don't speak directly.
00:10:25.340 So even if I want
00:10:25.940 to disagree with you,
00:10:26.940 I will preface it
00:10:28.140 by saying,
00:10:28.740 I hear your point,
00:10:29.700 I hear you.
00:10:30.620 There's kind of this
00:10:31.300 infantilizing that takes place
00:10:32.820 and I'm a direct speaker
00:10:35.580 and so it's very,
00:10:36.420 very difficult for me
00:10:37.200 to, in a sense,
00:10:38.120 exist in that ecosystem
00:10:39.180 because it goes against
00:10:40.720 my most fundamental disposition.
00:10:42.420 So speaking of your ecosystem,
00:10:44.320 so you're at Concordia University,
00:10:45.780 it has become
00:10:46.840 like a bizarre hotbed
00:10:49.340 of the Hamas stuff
00:10:51.160 and the yelling
00:10:53.600 at Jewish students
00:10:54.740 or whoever's left
00:10:55.640 can't be the most fun place
00:10:57.620 for you to work right now
00:10:58.540 and what do you think
00:10:59.420 has happened
00:10:59.920 at that university?
00:11:00.940 So you may or may not know this,
00:11:02.360 but well before October 7th,
00:11:04.180 I'm talking for the past 20 years,
00:11:06.140 my university colloquially
00:11:08.040 has been referred to as
00:11:09.460 Gaza University.
00:11:10.460 Yeah, I've heard you say.
00:11:11.480 Yeah, right.
00:11:12.580 So in 2002,
00:11:14.440 Netanyahu was stopped,
00:11:16.280 maybe one of the early
00:11:17.300 cancel culture victims,
00:11:19.220 he was supposed to come
00:11:20.060 and speak at Concordia.
00:11:21.000 They shut him down,
00:11:22.300 Prime Minister of Israel.
00:11:24.080 So really the reality
00:11:26.280 is that it's just a reflection
00:11:28.040 of the demographic situation
00:11:30.620 at Concordia,
00:11:31.420 which is there is
00:11:32.520 an increasing number
00:11:33.680 of students who come
00:11:34.820 from those particular cultures
00:11:36.480 and that particular
00:11:37.580 religious heritage.
00:11:38.500 And as those numbers increase,
00:11:40.680 it becomes more difficult
00:11:42.240 to be Jewish
00:11:43.640 at that university
00:11:44.820 and certainly to be
00:11:46.280 a outspoken public Jewish person.
00:11:49.500 I mean,
00:11:50.240 some students will come up
00:11:51.440 to me privately
00:11:52.240 and say,
00:11:52.840 hey, professor,
00:11:53.580 I'm Jewish,
00:11:54.160 I don't wear the Star of David.
00:11:55.180 But the reality is,
00:11:56.460 if that's what they're afraid of,
00:11:57.760 they take off the Star of David.
00:11:58.960 Nobody knows that they're Jewish.
00:12:00.180 But if I walk in on campus,
00:12:01.840 most people know who I am.
00:12:03.440 So it's become
00:12:04.260 an almost impossible situation.
00:12:06.280 Luckily,
00:12:06.620 this semester,
00:12:07.200 I'm on sabbatical,
00:12:08.180 so I have a bit of a reprieve,
00:12:10.640 but September is coming around.
00:12:12.380 I don't know how I'm going to go back.
00:12:13.940 Yeah.
00:12:14.180 I mean,
00:12:14.400 well,
00:12:14.600 how are you going to go back?
00:12:15.780 Because you also,
00:12:16.540 you live in Montreal.
00:12:17.660 I mean,
00:12:17.860 I'm seeing these protests
00:12:18.940 are pretty intense there.
00:12:20.800 You have a government
00:12:21.500 backed by Trudeau
00:12:22.600 that certainly is not going
00:12:23.600 to do anything
00:12:24.180 to curb any of this.
00:12:25.500 I would say actually
00:12:26.240 is fueling an awful lot of it.
00:12:27.900 I mean,
00:12:28.420 just personally,
00:12:29.300 for someone that cares
00:12:30.060 about happiness and family
00:12:31.180 and all that as much as you do,
00:12:32.380 like it's not easy.
00:12:33.140 And you have a,
00:12:33.900 you don't have the easiest history,
00:12:35.180 family history.
00:12:35.700 Yeah, exactly.
00:12:36.120 So I'll give you an example
00:12:38.840 that just happened
00:12:39.700 about two weeks ago.
00:12:41.900 We were talking earlier
00:12:42.920 about Inter-Miami
00:12:43.920 and our common friend,
00:12:46.180 Jorgen Mass.
00:12:47.120 Well,
00:12:47.300 he was kind enough
00:12:48.000 to send me tickets
00:12:49.680 for Inter-Miami
00:12:51.240 had come to Montreal
00:12:52.300 to play a game.
00:12:53.440 He couldn't make it
00:12:54.160 and so I took my family
00:12:55.560 to the game
00:12:56.400 as a beautiful gift from him.
00:12:59.020 As we were driving
00:13:00.380 to get to the stadium,
00:13:02.480 we crossed about
00:13:03.440 a six to eight block area
00:13:05.520 where it was impossible
00:13:07.640 for you to know
00:13:09.160 whether it was in
00:13:10.140 Raqqa, Syria,
00:13:11.260 whether it was in Yemen,
00:13:13.420 whether it was in Pakistan.
00:13:14.640 It was just an endless sea
00:13:17.200 of what looked like
00:13:18.580 very hostile protesters
00:13:21.200 and demonstrators
00:13:22.820 and so on.
00:13:23.660 And I remember
00:13:24.640 that I sort of
00:13:25.660 tried to put the visor
00:13:27.960 so that people don't see me
00:13:29.660 because I was worried
00:13:30.300 what if someone recognizes me
00:13:31.740 and they have,
00:13:32.800 so that's the reality.
00:13:34.340 Now, it didn't take long, right?
00:13:36.100 I mean,
00:13:36.740 10, 15 years ago,
00:13:37.860 I was already warning people
00:13:39.360 that this was coming.
00:13:40.240 Well, now we're there.
00:13:40.880 What if I was just walking
00:13:41.920 with my family
00:13:42.520 and they recognize me?
00:13:43.520 Who knows what would have
00:13:44.120 happened to me?
00:13:44.500 Right.
00:13:44.800 I drove by one
00:13:45.980 when I did the R Conference
00:13:47.040 in London.
00:13:48.220 Right.
00:13:48.760 That was late November.
00:13:50.120 Right.
00:13:50.460 And I had the same exact thought
00:13:51.980 which was,
00:13:52.620 if I get recognized right now,
00:13:53.980 I don't know,
00:13:54.540 do they literally
00:13:55.480 just ransack the car?
00:13:56.660 Like, what the hell happens?
00:13:58.360 All right,
00:13:58.600 so you're in the middle
00:13:59.520 of that in Canada
00:14:00.240 but are there any mechanisms
00:14:02.960 for Canada
00:14:05.140 to not fully go that route?
00:14:06.920 You guys have let in
00:14:07.660 an awful amount of people,
00:14:08.940 an awful lot of people.
00:14:10.380 It doesn't seem like
00:14:11.540 there's anything to stop.
00:14:13.340 So it's sort of
00:14:13.780 what I asked you before
00:14:14.480 but I mean,
00:14:15.240 from a Canadian perspective,
00:14:16.420 it's like,
00:14:16.760 you guys are so damn nice,
00:14:18.200 you're just going to fall
00:14:19.040 on the sword.
00:14:19.420 Suicidal empathy,
00:14:20.240 the topic of my next book.
00:14:22.180 That's literally the title.
00:14:23.300 Yeah, exactly.
00:14:24.040 Exactly.
00:14:24.840 So look,
00:14:25.600 I often use the following analogy
00:14:27.140 and we were talking earlier
00:14:28.280 about our respective weight loss
00:14:29.800 and so on.
00:14:30.400 On any given day,
00:14:32.480 one of three things
00:14:33.360 can happen to your weight
00:14:34.620 as a result of the decisions
00:14:35.940 you make that day.
00:14:36.800 The exercise you do,
00:14:37.820 the food that you eat.
00:14:39.000 My weight can go up,
00:14:40.360 my weight can stay the same
00:14:41.500 or my weight can go down.
00:14:42.640 There isn't another possible
00:14:43.860 state of the world
00:14:44.560 when it comes to my weight.
00:14:46.040 Well, now let's apply
00:14:46.980 that mechanism,
00:14:48.520 that framework
00:14:49.080 to immigration.
00:14:50.700 So if you let in people
00:14:52.400 in the hundreds of thousands,
00:14:54.020 if not millions,
00:14:54.820 into your society
00:14:55.640 and those people
00:14:56.880 are coming from cultures
00:14:58.120 that have endemic Jew hatred,
00:15:00.580 it's actually definitional
00:15:01.700 to their societies.
00:15:02.860 We know that
00:15:03.440 in a million different ways,
00:15:04.880 but let me just give you one way.
00:15:06.820 Pew surveys demonstrate
00:15:08.700 that when you poll people
00:15:10.080 from those societies,
00:15:11.240 what do you think of the Jews?
00:15:12.600 You get 95 to 99%
00:15:15.200 of polled people
00:15:16.180 that have dismal views
00:15:18.000 of the Jews.
00:15:18.820 Now just process that.
00:15:20.040 Even though virtually
00:15:20.560 no Jews live in the Jews.
00:15:21.740 Exactly, exactly.
00:15:23.000 So it's not,
00:15:24.100 I mean,
00:15:24.240 if it were 10%
00:15:25.400 of the polled people,
00:15:26.440 that would be a very,
00:15:27.480 you know,
00:15:28.620 difficult number
00:15:30.620 to digest.
00:15:31.680 Sure.
00:15:32.000 When it's 95 to 99,
00:15:33.500 so now we let in
00:15:34.260 500,000 people
00:15:35.700 and assume we go
00:15:36.900 with the 95% rate.
00:15:39.040 Is Jew hatred
00:15:40.220 in the society
00:15:41.320 going to go up?
00:15:42.400 Is it going to stay the same
00:15:43.340 or is it going to go down?
00:15:44.440 So it didn't require
00:15:45.800 a fancy professor,
00:15:47.180 evolutionary scientist
00:15:48.220 to connect the dots.
00:15:49.500 Right.
00:15:49.700 You just had to be
00:15:50.600 wedded to reality.
00:15:51.640 But is the brazenness
00:15:53.500 of the protests
00:15:54.580 and the things
00:15:55.220 that they're screaming for
00:15:56.220 and the way they use
00:15:57.380 words in Arabic
00:15:58.160 that can be sort of
00:15:59.560 defined either way
00:16:00.860 or river to the sea
00:16:02.520 doesn't exactly mean
00:16:03.820 destroy Israel.
00:16:04.800 Like it's the way
00:16:05.980 they're doing everything
00:16:06.940 that's quite duplicitous
00:16:08.400 and to some extent
00:16:09.420 deserves credit
00:16:10.180 because they're fooling
00:16:11.220 an awful lot of people.
00:16:12.020 And that comes
00:16:12.760 from the confidence
00:16:13.540 of now having
00:16:14.500 strength in numbers,
00:16:15.560 right?
00:16:15.920 When you're 0 to 2%
00:16:17.520 or you're just
00:16:18.480 a exotic minority,
00:16:20.300 when you're 3 to 5%,
00:16:21.940 you start being
00:16:23.320 a bit more emboldened
00:16:24.520 in your political demands
00:16:26.320 when you're 6 to 10%.
00:16:27.920 And so there is
00:16:28.760 kind of a trajectory
00:16:29.760 in the exact same way
00:16:31.180 that a physician
00:16:32.280 can tell you
00:16:33.160 with very,
00:16:34.040 very clear accuracy
00:16:35.060 what is the trajectory
00:16:36.480 of having diabetes?
00:16:38.120 What's going to happen?
00:16:39.500 With very clear timeline,
00:16:41.480 the same thing applies
00:16:42.660 when a society
00:16:43.380 is getting Islamized.
00:16:44.560 Now, again,
00:16:45.000 I hate to do this
00:16:46.080 prefacing.
00:16:47.800 Many Muslims
00:16:48.880 are lovely
00:16:49.500 and I know
00:16:50.080 more Muslims
00:16:50.840 who are my friends
00:16:51.620 than most people
00:16:52.200 will ever meet.
00:16:53.040 We're not talking
00:16:53.660 about individual Muslims.
00:16:54.780 We're talking about
00:16:55.540 does Islam,
00:16:57.740 once it takes
00:16:58.540 a hold in a society,
00:16:59.980 does it promote
00:17:00.760 greater liberties,
00:17:02.220 greater individual dignity?
00:17:04.060 If you own black dogs
00:17:05.820 and you're a gay Jew,
00:17:07.700 should you feel more?
00:17:09.220 And the reason why
00:17:09.760 I say black dog
00:17:10.480 because...
00:17:11.040 My dog's tan.
00:17:11.900 But he's not black,
00:17:13.160 so he's a bit safer.
00:17:14.620 But Muhammad
00:17:15.260 had a particular
00:17:15.980 repulsion
00:17:17.160 towards dogs
00:17:18.880 in general,
00:17:19.340 but black dogs
00:17:19.940 in particular.
00:17:21.180 So,
00:17:22.220 it doesn't take much
00:17:23.240 to realize
00:17:23.700 what's going to happen.
00:17:24.720 I have many
00:17:25.540 Muslim friends
00:17:26.420 who will tell me
00:17:27.620 that they're concerned
00:17:29.220 about the rate
00:17:30.500 at which many
00:17:31.340 of these societies
00:17:32.020 are getting Islamized.
00:17:32.940 They escaped
00:17:33.660 those societies
00:17:34.340 and now they find
00:17:35.400 themselves amidst
00:17:36.660 the same societies
00:17:37.380 from which they escaped.
00:17:38.500 So, I guess I...
00:17:39.580 Or I suspect
00:17:40.100 I know the answer to this,
00:17:41.220 but you've told
00:17:42.480 your biography
00:17:43.140 many times
00:17:43.800 in many different places
00:17:44.960 and we'll link
00:17:45.920 to the original story
00:17:46.860 that you told
00:17:47.740 from many, many years ago.
00:17:49.380 But growing up
00:17:49.900 in Lebanon,
00:17:50.940 Jewish family,
00:17:51.820 Christian Lebanon.
00:17:52.840 I mean,
00:17:52.980 it was largely Christian
00:17:53.900 at the time.
00:17:54.540 It's not...
00:17:55.080 I think it was about
00:17:55.680 80% Christian
00:17:56.500 at the time, right?
00:17:57.260 Maybe a bit less.
00:17:58.180 Maybe 65, 70.
00:17:59.800 Something around there.
00:18:01.520 Now it's...
00:18:01.960 Oh, I think
00:18:02.560 now it's about
00:18:03.360 80% Muslim.
00:18:04.340 So, it's basically
00:18:05.000 done this bizarre flip.
00:18:07.060 But do you remember...
00:18:10.560 Was the feeling the same?
00:18:12.520 Do you think
00:18:13.020 if I was talking
00:18:13.560 to your dad
00:18:14.220 in Lebanon
00:18:14.740 in 19...
00:18:17.060 Give me a year.
00:18:18.040 72.
00:18:18.760 72.
00:18:19.660 As he was watching
00:18:20.700 the turn,
00:18:21.640 is that sort of
00:18:22.540 what you're describing
00:18:23.260 right now
00:18:23.820 in your country?
00:18:24.880 Or maybe in my country?
00:18:26.020 Absolutely.
00:18:27.220 So,
00:18:27.560 people have
00:18:29.660 the wrong
00:18:30.280 understanding
00:18:31.380 of tolerance
00:18:32.240 in the Middle East.
00:18:33.560 You're tolerated
00:18:34.800 until you're
00:18:35.780 no longer tolerated, right?
00:18:37.200 You're healthy
00:18:38.140 until you drop dead
00:18:39.160 of a heart attack, right?
00:18:40.780 Five minutes ago
00:18:41.580 you were smiling
00:18:42.260 and now you're dead.
00:18:43.480 So,
00:18:44.120 the concept of
00:18:45.400 toleration
00:18:46.940 or tolerance
00:18:48.180 in the Middle East
00:18:49.020 simply means that,
00:18:50.680 yes,
00:18:50.920 we're not going
00:18:51.740 to execute you today
00:18:52.940 and you can thrive
00:18:54.200 and live for 30 years
00:18:55.300 but be quiet.
00:18:56.580 Don't wear
00:18:57.260 the Star of David
00:18:58.000 too big
00:18:58.500 and then maybe
00:18:59.300 one day
00:18:59.840 one of us
00:19:00.940 will have designs
00:19:02.060 for your beautiful daughter
00:19:03.180 and when we come knocking
00:19:04.200 don't scream too loud
00:19:05.560 when we take her.
00:19:06.340 So,
00:19:06.760 that's what it means
00:19:07.820 to coexist
00:19:08.840 in the Middle East.
00:19:09.880 Even in the
00:19:10.620 golden era
00:19:11.640 of Andalusia
00:19:12.520 you may have heard
00:19:13.220 that, right?
00:19:13.800 Where Christians,
00:19:14.860 Muslims,
00:19:15.320 and Jews
00:19:16.020 were supposed to
00:19:16.780 walk hand in hand
00:19:17.880 singing John Lennon
00:19:19.280 Imagine.
00:19:19.880 That's not really
00:19:20.700 what happened, right?
00:19:21.760 Jews were dimmies, right?
00:19:23.320 They're third class citizens.
00:19:26.240 That doesn't mean
00:19:27.000 that they are exterminated
00:19:28.360 every day
00:19:29.120 all day long
00:19:29.900 but it means
00:19:30.720 that you don't know
00:19:31.800 when the beheadings
00:19:32.880 are coming.
00:19:33.460 It could be tomorrow
00:19:34.180 or it could be
00:19:34.800 in five years
00:19:35.400 or it could be
00:19:35.800 in 50 years
00:19:36.400 but they will be coming, right?
00:19:38.200 And so,
00:19:39.780 in the context
00:19:40.420 of us growing up
00:19:41.140 in Lebanon
00:19:41.560 I tell of many stories
00:19:43.220 and I'm happy to repeat
00:19:44.140 some of them
00:19:44.480 if you'd like
00:19:44.900 of what I saw
00:19:46.580 growing up
00:19:47.200 in tolerant,
00:19:48.080 progressive,
00:19:48.800 modern,
00:19:49.540 you know,
00:19:49.980 Paris of the Middle East
00:19:51.180 Lebanon.
00:19:52.060 So,
00:19:52.240 when I was five years old
00:19:53.280 Gamal Abdel Nasser
00:19:54.900 who was the
00:19:55.620 president of Egypt
00:19:57.500 who was very much
00:19:58.980 revered and loved
00:19:59.880 in the Arab world
00:20:01.460 because he was a
00:20:02.320 pan-Arabist.
00:20:03.540 He was trying to unite
00:20:04.360 all of the Arabic countries.
00:20:06.320 Very charismatic
00:20:07.040 kind of populist.
00:20:08.660 When he passed away
00:20:09.680 in 1970,
00:20:10.380 I hadn't yet turned six,
00:20:12.140 there were demonstrations
00:20:13.580 in the streets
00:20:14.320 as often happens
00:20:15.240 in the Middle East.
00:20:16.040 Everybody's lamenting
00:20:16.920 to God,
00:20:17.480 why, why?
00:20:18.400 And as they're
00:20:19.640 proceeding down my street
00:20:21.360 they're screaming
00:20:22.000 death to Jews,
00:20:23.000 death to Jews.
00:20:23.960 And as a young boy
00:20:25.320 I was horrified.
00:20:26.740 I'm asking my mother
00:20:27.520 why are they screaming
00:20:28.300 death to Jews?
00:20:29.480 You know,
00:20:29.740 we have nothing to do with this.
00:20:31.160 So that's one story.
00:20:32.280 A second story,
00:20:33.220 I'll tell two other quick ones.
00:20:35.420 It's Lebanon,
00:20:36.380 1970,
00:20:37.040 or Concordia,
00:20:38.380 2024.
00:20:39.200 Exactly right.
00:20:40.480 So,
00:20:41.240 I was about eight or nine
00:20:42.980 so this would be about
00:20:43.700 1973,
00:20:44.660 74,
00:20:45.280 about a year before
00:20:46.020 the Civil War started.
00:20:47.660 The teacher asks us
00:20:49.120 in class
00:20:49.660 to each get up
00:20:51.020 and tell the class
00:20:52.180 what we want to be
00:20:52.780 when we grow up.
00:20:54.280 I want to be a soccer player,
00:20:55.660 I want to be a policeman,
00:20:56.600 I want to be a nurse.
00:20:57.660 And one of the kids,
00:20:59.440 and I still have a photo
00:21:00.860 and I can point to that kid,
00:21:02.840 gets up and says,
00:21:03.560 when I grow up
00:21:04.200 I want to be a Jew killer
00:21:05.700 to the rap,
00:21:07.120 you know,
00:21:07.620 raucous applause
00:21:08.740 and laughter
00:21:09.320 of all the kids
00:21:10.240 who knew that I was Jewish,
00:21:12.040 right?
00:21:12.220 Were you the only Jew in the class?
00:21:13.420 There was another one
00:21:14.380 that I can remember.
00:21:17.040 But,
00:21:17.520 of course,
00:21:17.920 we were a small minority.
00:21:18.900 And it's not,
00:21:20.360 it wasn't a secret
00:21:21.180 that we were Jewish
00:21:21.840 because you just had to go
00:21:22.640 to the synagogue on Saturday
00:21:23.700 and you would know
00:21:24.280 who's Jewish,
00:21:24.880 but you certainly
00:21:25.760 didn't advertise it,
00:21:27.240 you know,
00:21:27.560 loudly.
00:21:28.940 My brother was
00:21:30.080 Lebanese champion
00:21:31.020 in judo
00:21:31.740 for many years in a row
00:21:32.960 and it had become
00:21:34.680 a bit of a shameful reality
00:21:36.820 for a Jew
00:21:37.720 to constantly be winning
00:21:38.960 these combat sports.
00:21:40.760 So he was visited
00:21:42.100 by some men
00:21:42.920 who said that it was time
00:21:43.920 for him to retire
00:21:45.060 lest there might be
00:21:46.760 an unfortunate accident
00:21:47.860 that happens to him.
00:21:48.640 So he ended up
00:21:49.940 moving to France
00:21:51.080 to pursue his
00:21:52.460 judo career.
00:21:54.180 This is before the Civil War.
00:21:55.960 And then,
00:21:56.840 incredibly,
00:21:57.520 ironically,
00:21:58.200 in 1976,
00:21:59.480 he ended up
00:22:00.540 representing
00:22:01.460 Lebanon
00:22:02.500 in the Montreal Olympics.
00:22:04.920 So he was
00:22:05.740 too Jewish
00:22:06.660 to stay in Lebanon
00:22:08.760 in 1973-74
00:22:10.920 but then he was
00:22:12.020 we're going to overlook
00:22:13.400 you being Jewish
00:22:14.300 so that you can have
00:22:15.520 the flag of Lebanon.
00:22:16.700 So that was the reality.
00:22:17.680 And now there's none left.
00:22:18.640 So I've heard
00:22:20.460 there's about 40.
00:22:22.600 Some say 10,
00:22:23.700 some say 90.
00:22:24.580 But they're not
00:22:25.400 practicing Jews, right?
00:22:26.820 There's no minion,
00:22:27.780 there's no...
00:22:28.480 It's just some Jew
00:22:29.540 got married in 1963
00:22:30.880 to a Muslim woman
00:22:32.100 and he stayed back
00:22:33.480 in Lebanon.
00:22:34.280 Can you explain
00:22:35.180 a little bit why...
00:22:36.240 You know,
00:22:36.420 one of the things
00:22:36.820 that I'm concerned
00:22:37.580 about lately
00:22:38.060 is because since
00:22:39.040 October 7th
00:22:40.080 and that there's
00:22:40.800 all these protests
00:22:41.620 and everyone
00:22:42.200 on all the shows
00:22:43.100 and you just did
00:22:43.680 an unbelievably
00:22:44.340 wonderful job
00:22:45.240 going on Rogan
00:22:45.980 talking about
00:22:46.680 all of this Jew hatred
00:22:48.440 and everything.
00:22:49.620 And I think
00:22:50.140 he's been a little
00:22:50.680 confused about
00:22:51.460 some of the Israel stuff
00:22:52.220 so it was nice
00:22:52.820 to see you clean
00:22:53.440 a bit of that up.
00:22:55.140 But I think
00:22:55.720 one of the things
00:22:56.440 that I'm feeling
00:22:57.160 even as doing my show
00:22:58.580 and as an interviewer
00:22:59.360 is I wish we were
00:23:00.540 not talking about
00:23:01.160 the Jews at all.
00:23:02.140 That would be much better.
00:23:03.220 It would be much better
00:23:03.820 for the Jews
00:23:04.240 but it would be much better
00:23:05.000 for the society.
00:23:05.900 Can you sort of
00:23:06.520 link that to why
00:23:07.680 this is not good
00:23:08.540 for general...
00:23:10.180 for the Christian
00:23:10.960 that's watching this
00:23:11.700 or the atheist
00:23:12.200 that's watching this
00:23:13.080 or the Muslim
00:23:13.680 that doesn't want
00:23:14.320 to live under
00:23:14.780 Islamic theocracy
00:23:15.640 that's watching this
00:23:16.380 why they should care
00:23:17.580 right now
00:23:18.200 about this thing.
00:23:19.360 So there are several
00:23:19.880 ways I could answer this.
00:23:20.780 Number one
00:23:21.300 there's an expression
00:23:22.780 in the Arab world
00:23:24.320 first we come
00:23:25.400 for the Saturday people
00:23:26.580 then we come
00:23:27.620 for the Sunday people.
00:23:29.000 The Saturday people
00:23:30.460 are the Jews
00:23:31.360 but it doesn't stop
00:23:32.800 with the Jews
00:23:33.300 then we come
00:23:33.820 for the Sunday people
00:23:34.780 the Christians right
00:23:35.660 or the old
00:23:36.720 I quote this
00:23:37.840 in the Parasitic
00:23:38.320 I don't remember
00:23:38.840 the exact quote
00:23:39.440 you know
00:23:39.800 first they came
00:23:41.140 for this
00:23:41.480 and then I ignored
00:23:42.100 them
00:23:42.320 and they came
00:23:42.620 for the trade
00:23:43.820 I ignored it
00:23:45.760 and so it's
00:23:47.140 the same principle
00:23:48.100 which is many people
00:23:49.240 to our earlier point
00:23:50.440 you only react
00:23:51.740 when the knock
00:23:52.940 comes on your door
00:23:53.940 until there is
00:23:55.080 no diabetes
00:23:55.640 no one in my family
00:23:56.520 has diabetes
00:23:57.120 so it can't be real
00:23:58.540 and so I think
00:23:59.660 the Christians
00:24:00.520 and the other Muslims
00:24:01.580 that are in the West
00:24:02.360 have to wake up
00:24:03.480 because the ideology
00:24:05.300 that might first
00:24:07.100 have their sight
00:24:08.280 on the Jews
00:24:09.000 won't stop at them
00:24:10.360 right?
00:24:10.560 I mean
00:24:10.840 as we both know
00:24:13.140 in many cases
00:24:14.600 the biggest victims
00:24:16.560 of Islamic extremism
00:24:18.700 are Muslims
00:24:19.980 right?
00:24:20.520 because you're not
00:24:21.240 Muslim enough
00:24:21.960 right?
00:24:22.320 so ISIS
00:24:23.000 killed mainly Muslims
00:24:25.620 they weren't able
00:24:27.100 to get to the Jews
00:24:28.100 and so
00:24:29.020 you can't
00:24:30.980 simply say
00:24:31.780 this doesn't affect me
00:24:32.900 because ultimately
00:24:33.900 anti-Semitism
00:24:34.620 doesn't
00:24:35.360 come to my home
00:24:36.820 I'm Christian
00:24:37.440 I'm living in Arkansas
00:24:38.420 give it five years
00:24:40.060 give it 50 years
00:24:40.880 give it 500 years
00:24:41.900 it will come for you
00:24:43.080 and so act now
00:24:44.020 rather than then
00:24:44.760 right
00:24:45.320 and again
00:24:46.260 the question
00:24:46.760 just remains
00:24:47.820 do people ever
00:24:48.860 heed the warning
00:24:49.540 and I guess
00:24:50.040 that's just
00:24:50.680 the question
00:24:51.160 that just hangs out
00:24:52.000 there right?
00:24:52.540 like that's just
00:24:53.160 the thing
00:24:53.580 I don't think
00:24:54.480 people heed the warning
00:24:55.420 until it really
00:24:56.340 is at your doorstep
00:24:57.260 it's
00:24:57.620 I mean
00:24:58.400 the folks
00:24:59.600 who are in the public eye
00:25:00.820 who become known
00:25:01.780 it's precisely
00:25:02.800 because they're
00:25:03.540 an outlier
00:25:04.200 right
00:25:04.500 because
00:25:04.840 they are rare
00:25:06.160 in their capacity
00:25:07.280 to forecast
00:25:08.100 and extrapolate
00:25:09.180 if this were something
00:25:10.500 that was an inherent part
00:25:11.940 of the architecture
00:25:12.720 of the human mind
00:25:13.380 for everybody
00:25:13.940 then you wouldn't find
00:25:15.620 a public profile
00:25:17.960 I wouldn't have
00:25:18.840 I would quite literally
00:25:19.820 rather talk about
00:25:20.680 almost anything else
00:25:21.660 in a bizarre sense
00:25:22.500 but how can we not
00:25:23.380 talk about it
00:25:24.100 I agree
00:25:24.360 right
00:25:25.100 like I almost have
00:25:25.780 no ability not to
00:25:26.900 because it's
00:25:28.520 civilizationally important
00:25:30.360 and I've actually
00:25:31.140 so a lot of people
00:25:32.080 who send me hate stuff
00:25:33.320 will say
00:25:33.800 you're such a hypocrite
00:25:35.280 you rail against
00:25:36.540 identity politics
00:25:37.680 and then
00:25:38.680 you spend all the time
00:25:40.560 talking about
00:25:41.260 Jew, Jew, Jew
00:25:41.940 all day long
00:25:42.580 well I only do
00:25:43.780 the Jew, Jew, Jew
00:25:44.680 because it matters
00:25:45.660 so much to you
00:25:46.680 that I'm Jewish
00:25:47.360 right
00:25:47.660 if you go through
00:25:48.720 my Twitter feed
00:25:49.620 before October 7th
00:25:51.000 you probably would find
00:25:52.360 1% of tweets
00:25:53.580 that in
00:25:53.880 I mean
00:25:54.280 almost nothing
00:25:55.120 will be related
00:25:55.680 to Israel
00:25:56.200 right
00:25:56.540 and being Jewish
00:25:58.340 is part of my
00:25:59.320 history
00:26:00.800 it's part of the
00:26:01.700 tragedy of my
00:26:02.680 childhood
00:26:03.040 but I'd much
00:26:04.620 rather talk about
00:26:05.340 evolutionary psychology
00:26:06.560 and about the
00:26:07.440 scientific method
00:26:08.280 but I only talk
00:26:09.820 about Jewish issues
00:26:10.700 because the haters
00:26:12.380 care so much
00:26:13.140 about the fact
00:26:13.820 that I'm Jewish
00:26:14.400 all right
00:26:14.660 well then let's
00:26:15.240 shift to the
00:26:15.680 scientific method
00:26:16.440 for a moment
00:26:16.980 because I feel
00:26:18.080 like the other
00:26:18.580 I mean look
00:26:19.140 we're seeing all
00:26:19.940 of our institutions
00:26:20.640 under assault
00:26:21.280 and our countries
00:26:21.780 are under assault
00:26:22.280 the scientific method
00:26:23.540 is under assault
00:26:24.460 science
00:26:24.960 you know it's
00:26:25.760 a weird thing to say
00:26:26.320 science is under assault
00:26:27.180 that sounds like
00:26:27.700 a Fauci thing to say
00:26:28.660 but now when I
00:26:29.600 listen to any of the
00:26:30.460 people who are
00:26:31.000 the so-called experts
00:26:32.140 you're on the short
00:26:33.660 list of people
00:26:34.380 that I roughly
00:26:35.780 trust when it
00:26:36.620 comes to things
00:26:37.200 thank you
00:26:37.680 but that's got to
00:26:38.680 be a bizarre thing
00:26:39.460 as a man of science
00:26:40.880 as a man of
00:26:41.540 rationality
00:26:42.200 to see so many
00:26:43.420 of your colleagues
00:26:44.220 now I'm not talking
00:26:44.980 about the political
00:26:45.480 part
00:26:45.860 just the scientific
00:26:47.140 part just completely
00:26:48.380 collapsed too
00:26:49.260 so I saw this
00:26:50.580 before the woke
00:26:51.920 stuff
00:26:52.320 inherently in my
00:26:54.520 research
00:26:55.020 because I apply
00:26:56.460 evolutionary biology
00:26:57.560 and evolutionary
00:26:58.100 psychology
00:26:58.700 to the human
00:26:59.840 condition
00:27:00.380 that itself
00:27:01.700 was very contentious
00:27:03.020 within the social
00:27:03.780 sciences
00:27:04.260 because in the
00:27:05.320 social sciences
00:27:06.100 one of the things
00:27:06.860 that unifies
00:27:07.980 all social sciences
00:27:08.940 is that evolution
00:27:10.400 might be relevant
00:27:11.240 for the zebra
00:27:12.000 for the mosquito
00:27:13.160 and for your dog
00:27:14.180 but don't you dare
00:27:15.280 say that evolution
00:27:16.260 matters in explaining
00:27:17.460 human behavior
00:27:18.400 and certainly
00:27:19.320 if it applies
00:27:20.060 for human
00:27:21.120 phenomena
00:27:21.980 it might apply
00:27:23.520 to explain
00:27:24.020 why we have
00:27:24.480 opposable thumbs
00:27:25.340 it might apply
00:27:26.000 to explain
00:27:26.480 why my pancreas
00:27:27.600 work the way
00:27:28.160 that they do
00:27:28.540 but don't you
00:27:29.520 apply it for
00:27:30.200 anything above
00:27:30.840 the neck
00:27:31.380 right
00:27:31.920 and so
00:27:32.480 what's the
00:27:33.520 so the reasoning
00:27:34.400 that they wouldn't
00:27:35.120 like that
00:27:35.580 is because
00:27:35.980 what
00:27:36.220 it basically
00:27:36.940 it takes
00:27:37.800 in their eyes
00:27:38.780 it sort of
00:27:39.120 takes away
00:27:39.680 the individuality
00:27:40.780 or their
00:27:41.180 so there are
00:27:41.780 many reasons
00:27:42.340 that's a great
00:27:42.960 yeah so in
00:27:43.800 the consuming
00:27:44.960 instinct
00:27:45.340 which was my
00:27:45.880 2011 book
00:27:46.900 in the first
00:27:47.800 chapter
00:27:48.220 I go through
00:27:49.140 all of the
00:27:49.960 key
00:27:50.420 points
00:27:52.260 that the
00:27:52.720 detractors have
00:27:53.540 so I'll mention
00:27:54.040 a few here
00:27:54.600 for you
00:27:54.940 so one
00:27:55.940 is the
00:27:56.500 biological
00:27:57.100 slash
00:27:57.720 genetic
00:27:58.680 determinism
00:27:59.420 so many
00:28:00.640 of the
00:28:00.980 detractors
00:28:01.660 think
00:28:02.040 that if
00:28:02.760 our behavior
00:28:03.620 is biologically
00:28:04.880 inscribed
00:28:05.880 that literally
00:28:06.960 means that
00:28:07.740 you are a
00:28:08.680 you know
00:28:09.440 blind
00:28:09.960 executor
00:28:10.980 robot
00:28:11.580 robot
00:28:12.120 of your genes
00:28:12.960 which of course
00:28:13.520 that's not at all
00:28:14.160 what it means
00:28:14.580 because all
00:28:15.560 behaviors
00:28:16.160 are ultimately
00:28:17.180 an interaction
00:28:17.940 between your genes
00:28:18.940 and your environment
00:28:19.900 as a matter of fact
00:28:20.840 genes themselves
00:28:21.620 get turned on
00:28:22.500 or off
00:28:22.980 as a result
00:28:23.500 of environmental
00:28:24.320 inputs
00:28:25.360 and so the
00:28:26.280 idea that
00:28:27.140 if you believe
00:28:28.160 that humans
00:28:28.660 are biological
00:28:29.400 beings
00:28:29.980 it means that
00:28:31.100 we are just
00:28:31.840 these executors
00:28:32.820 of our genes
00:28:33.460 is simply
00:28:34.200 it's false
00:28:34.900 as a matter of fact
00:28:35.440 evolutionists talk
00:28:36.320 about the
00:28:36.720 interactionist
00:28:37.740 framework
00:28:38.140 interactionist
00:28:39.220 means
00:28:39.520 interactions
00:28:40.400 of genes
00:28:41.080 and the
00:28:41.640 environment
00:28:42.060 right
00:28:42.360 so that's
00:28:42.680 also depressing
00:28:43.300 it's a depressing
00:28:44.180 way of looking
00:28:44.820 at the word
00:28:45.140 right
00:28:45.480 exactly
00:28:46.160 number two
00:28:47.700 many
00:28:49.300 miscreants
00:28:50.440 and cretins
00:28:51.400 misused
00:28:52.580 evolutionary
00:28:53.240 theory
00:28:53.680 so for example
00:28:54.400 British
00:28:55.140 social class
00:28:56.780 elitists
00:28:57.420 just shortly
00:28:58.920 after Darwin
00:29:00.020 said hey
00:29:00.780 there's a natural
00:29:01.520 struggle between
00:29:02.320 the classes
00:29:02.940 we're the upper
00:29:03.720 class
00:29:04.140 you're the lower
00:29:04.740 class
00:29:05.100 who cares if you
00:29:06.020 all die from
00:29:06.640 tuberculosis
00:29:07.580 in your
00:29:08.200 you know
00:29:09.320 shitty
00:29:09.640 neighborhoods
00:29:10.500 that's just
00:29:11.620 natural selection
00:29:12.560 which of course
00:29:13.200 had nothing to do
00:29:13.920 with evolutionary
00:29:14.520 theory
00:29:14.920 that became
00:29:15.740 known as
00:29:16.120 social Darwinism
00:29:17.240 the Nazis
00:29:18.120 came along
00:29:18.580 and said hey
00:29:18.900 there's a natural
00:29:19.520 struggle across
00:29:20.320 the races
00:29:20.860 it's Darwinian
00:29:22.000 it's evolution
00:29:22.820 we're Aryan
00:29:24.000 you're the Jews
00:29:24.960 you're the gypsies
00:29:25.760 you're the homosexuals
00:29:26.760 if we call you
00:29:27.840 from the population
00:29:28.600 hey that's just
00:29:29.340 Darwinian
00:29:30.240 right
00:29:30.520 eugenicists
00:29:32.040 came along
00:29:32.540 said the same thing
00:29:33.340 so a whole
00:29:34.460 long line
00:29:35.500 of really
00:29:36.220 nefarious folks
00:29:37.500 misused
00:29:38.840 evolutionary
00:29:39.520 principles
00:29:40.240 to advance
00:29:41.300 their political
00:29:42.180 ideologies
00:29:42.880 and so
00:29:43.740 the social
00:29:44.460 sciences
00:29:44.940 decided
00:29:45.560 in their
00:29:46.000 infinite
00:29:46.320 wisdom
00:29:46.720 why don't
00:29:47.820 we build
00:29:48.400 edifices
00:29:49.360 that are
00:29:50.060 void of
00:29:50.660 biological
00:29:51.120 thinking
00:29:51.640 because then
00:29:52.220 hopefully
00:29:52.540 we can
00:29:53.120 curtail the
00:29:53.960 possibility
00:29:54.380 that someone
00:29:54.720 might use
00:29:55.160 them
00:29:55.320 but as I
00:29:56.080 explained
00:29:56.360 the
00:29:56.520 parasitic
00:29:56.900 mind
00:29:57.200 you can't
00:29:58.260 in the
00:29:58.640 pursuit
00:29:59.080 of some
00:29:59.540 noble
00:29:59.880 goal
00:30:00.300 murder
00:30:00.780 and rape
00:30:01.280 truth
00:30:01.740 right
00:30:02.220 you still
00:30:02.660 have to
00:30:03.080 be wedded
00:30:03.560 to reality
00:30:04.280 and so
00:30:05.280 so for
00:30:06.740 these reasons
00:30:07.320 and many
00:30:07.780 others
00:30:08.260 it's very
00:30:09.100 very difficult
00:30:09.720 for professors
00:30:10.400 in the
00:30:10.760 humanities
00:30:11.240 and the
00:30:11.700 social sciences
00:30:12.360 to accept
00:30:13.300 that we
00:30:13.680 are
00:30:13.980 evolutionary
00:30:14.740 minded
00:30:15.320 creatures
00:30:16.140 what would
00:30:17.020 you want
00:30:17.460 to happen
00:30:17.880 to the
00:30:18.220 institutions
00:30:18.780 at this
00:30:19.460 point
00:30:19.780 I mean
00:30:20.280 I'm the
00:30:22.520 emperor
00:30:22.840 of the
00:30:23.180 world
00:30:23.420 and I
00:30:23.700 can just
00:30:24.000 yeah
00:30:24.280 do you
00:30:24.700 do you
00:30:25.080 think
00:30:25.340 that well
00:30:25.760 I mean
00:30:26.140 do you
00:30:26.300 think
00:30:26.420 they can
00:30:26.640 be
00:30:26.760 repaired
00:30:27.060 do they
00:30:27.320 need
00:30:27.480 to be
00:30:27.680 blown
00:30:27.860 apart
00:30:28.100 is it
00:30:28.340 a case
00:30:28.640 by case
00:30:29.020 basis
00:30:29.360 I
00:30:29.840 think
00:30:30.120 they
00:30:30.300 can
00:30:30.520 be
00:30:30.680 repaired
00:30:31.060 I
00:30:31.260 mean
00:30:31.460 look
00:30:32.220 at
00:30:32.480 its
00:30:33.940 fundamental
00:30:34.740 reality
00:30:35.620 universities
00:30:36.800 serve a
00:30:37.600 great
00:30:37.780 purpose
00:30:38.120 and it
00:30:38.440 and it's
00:30:39.160 not as
00:30:39.680 though
00:30:39.980 they are
00:30:41.180 populated
00:30:41.880 with a
00:30:42.780 majority
00:30:43.240 of you
00:30:43.720 know
00:30:43.820 blue-haired
00:30:44.440 maniacs
00:30:45.140 right
00:30:45.300 but it's
00:30:46.240 the blue-haired
00:30:46.900 maniacs
00:30:47.560 that are
00:30:48.040 the loud
00:30:48.520 ones
00:30:48.780 that are
00:30:49.020 the
00:30:49.180 activists
00:30:49.640 that get
00:30:50.180 the attention
00:30:50.720 of the
00:30:51.060 administrators
00:30:51.720 that
00:30:52.480 keep the
00:30:54.140 rest of
00:30:54.500 us in
00:30:54.860 check
00:30:55.100 right
00:30:55.340 and so
00:30:55.760 all you
00:30:56.640 need to
00:30:56.980 do
00:30:57.220 is
00:30:57.560 find a
00:30:58.500 way
00:30:58.720 to
00:30:59.120 get
00:30:59.800 the
00:31:00.140 silent
00:31:00.480 majority
00:31:01.000 to
00:31:01.860 invoke
00:31:02.880 their
00:31:03.120 courage
00:31:03.500 to find
00:31:03.980 their
00:31:04.200 spines
00:31:04.600 and then
00:31:05.200 I think
00:31:05.500 it could
00:31:05.820 be
00:31:06.120 turned
00:31:06.600 around
00:31:06.900 so I'll
00:31:07.420 give you
00:31:07.660 a few
00:31:07.920 examples
00:31:08.340 now there's
00:31:09.440 a big
00:31:09.720 pushback
00:31:10.160 as you
00:31:10.460 probably
00:31:10.800 have seen
00:31:11.180 against
00:31:11.580 the
00:31:11.920 diversity
00:31:12.840 inclusion
00:31:13.300 equity
00:31:13.680 right
00:31:13.900 well
00:31:14.580 I made
00:31:16.000 the very
00:31:16.760 difficult
00:31:17.920 decision
00:31:18.460 that I
00:31:19.600 would no
00:31:19.960 longer
00:31:20.300 apply
00:31:20.860 for
00:31:21.480 scientific
00:31:21.980 grants
00:31:22.480 which
00:31:23.060 I need
00:31:23.740 to apply
00:31:24.200 because
00:31:24.520 that's
00:31:25.020 how I
00:31:25.460 fund
00:31:25.740 my
00:31:25.980 research
00:31:26.360 how can
00:31:26.760 I pay
00:31:27.080 a postdoc
00:31:27.780 how can
00:31:28.520 I run
00:31:29.320 studies
00:31:29.820 that cost
00:31:30.380 money to
00:31:30.860 run
00:31:31.040 if I
00:31:31.360 don't
00:31:31.500 have
00:31:31.780 research
00:31:32.260 funds
00:31:32.520 because
00:31:33.240 I wasn't
00:31:34.140 willing
00:31:34.520 to
00:31:35.300 sacrifice
00:31:36.020 my
00:31:36.560 integrity
00:31:37.060 by having
00:31:37.880 to sign
00:31:38.620 and write
00:31:39.540 a diversity
00:31:40.240 inclusion
00:31:40.760 equity
00:31:41.120 statement
00:31:41.560 quite literally
00:31:42.320 they were
00:31:42.700 forcing you
00:31:43.480 to do
00:31:43.920 that
00:31:44.160 if you
00:31:44.580 wanted
00:31:44.800 to get
00:31:45.080 a grant
00:31:45.420 absolutely
00:31:45.940 that was
00:31:46.240 just in
00:31:46.560 Canada
00:31:46.880 or that
00:31:47.300 was
00:31:47.620 well I
00:31:47.940 mean
00:31:48.100 it's also
00:31:48.780 in the
00:31:49.060 US
00:31:49.340 but I
00:31:49.800 certainly
00:31:50.160 know
00:31:50.440 that it
00:31:50.740 had
00:31:50.900 really
00:31:51.200 spread
00:31:51.500 in
00:31:51.660 Canada
00:31:51.940 right
00:31:52.620 so
00:31:52.940 I'll
00:31:54.220 just
00:31:54.340 give you
00:31:54.540 another
00:31:54.760 example
00:31:55.280 University
00:31:56.000 of
00:31:56.280 Waterloo
00:31:56.820 which is
00:31:57.380 sort of
00:31:57.740 known as
00:31:58.120 the MIT
00:31:58.720 of Canada
00:31:59.340 they're
00:31:59.860 very good
00:32:00.220 in engineering
00:32:00.880 and computer
00:32:01.420 science
00:32:01.900 they had
00:32:03.380 a call
00:32:04.420 for two
00:32:05.300 chaired
00:32:06.020 professorships
00:32:06.680 which is
00:32:07.020 the highest
00:32:07.480 level
00:32:07.760 right
00:32:08.280 it's an
00:32:09.020 endowed
00:32:09.480 chair
00:32:09.840 and I
00:32:11.480 mean I
00:32:11.700 could literally
00:32:12.160 show you
00:32:12.660 the screenshot
00:32:13.200 of their
00:32:13.920 call for
00:32:14.900 professors
00:32:15.340 the number
00:32:16.280 one qualification
00:32:17.040 was
00:32:17.660 non-binary
00:32:18.860 you know
00:32:19.940 whatever
00:32:20.260 two-spirit
00:32:20.900 and all that
00:32:21.340 stuff
00:32:21.540 so you
00:32:22.120 really
00:32:22.440 I mean
00:32:22.780 it's difficult
00:32:23.240 to believe
00:32:24.180 that that's
00:32:24.740 real
00:32:25.160 right
00:32:25.420 I mean
00:32:25.680 so in
00:32:26.300 artificial
00:32:26.680 intelligence
00:32:27.400 and complexity
00:32:28.280 theory
00:32:28.920 and all
00:32:30.440 of these
00:32:30.900 you know
00:32:31.460 analysis of
00:32:32.160 algorithms
00:32:32.700 you need
00:32:33.380 to be
00:32:33.720 non-binary
00:32:34.380 but that's
00:32:35.180 it's
00:32:35.540 it's all
00:32:36.100 over the
00:32:36.500 place
00:32:36.760 now
00:32:37.340 most people
00:32:38.100 can go
00:32:38.500 about their
00:32:38.980 lives
00:32:39.300 trying to
00:32:39.920 ignore it
00:32:40.400 but I
00:32:40.940 wasn't able
00:32:41.360 to ignore it
00:32:41.920 because if I
00:32:43.020 had played
00:32:43.760 the game
00:32:44.420 as part of
00:32:45.400 a careerist
00:32:46.280 calculus
00:32:46.760 then I would
00:32:48.040 have felt
00:32:48.420 as though I
00:32:49.000 am a fraud
00:32:49.540 how can I
00:32:50.320 go on Dave
00:32:50.940 Rubin's show
00:32:51.500 and talk about
00:32:52.120 the diversity
00:32:52.760 inclusion equity
00:32:53.380 being a scam
00:32:54.360 but then
00:32:55.120 quietly when
00:32:55.880 nobody's seeing
00:32:56.600 I just play
00:32:57.320 along
00:32:57.640 so I think
00:32:58.540 most professors
00:32:59.380 regrettably
00:33:00.460 don't have
00:33:01.180 that sense
00:33:01.780 of code
00:33:02.620 of conduct
00:33:03.120 and so
00:33:03.720 they say
00:33:04.140 well
00:33:04.520 you know
00:33:04.900 let Gad Saad
00:33:05.800 be the hero
00:33:06.780 I need to
00:33:07.580 get my money
00:33:08.160 so I can
00:33:08.600 pay my
00:33:08.960 graduate students
00:33:09.560 I'll play
00:33:10.000 along
00:33:10.300 once we
00:33:11.280 can get
00:33:11.940 them to
00:33:12.380 stop playing
00:33:13.200 along
00:33:13.540 I think
00:33:13.920 the problem
00:33:14.420 can be
00:33:14.760 resolved
00:33:15.080 rather quickly
00:33:15.800 where do you
00:33:16.700 think social
00:33:17.100 media falls
00:33:17.620 into this
00:33:18.060 like do you
00:33:18.580 think
00:33:18.760 evolutionarily
00:33:20.040 you have
00:33:21.020 sort of
00:33:21.300 hysterical
00:33:21.960 young people
00:33:22.720 that have
00:33:23.140 been let's
00:33:23.500 say taught
00:33:23.860 the wrong
00:33:24.260 things
00:33:24.740 and then
00:33:25.460 you have
00:33:25.740 this
00:33:26.240 I don't
00:33:27.460 know
00:33:27.580 middle
00:33:28.180 management
00:33:29.120 version of
00:33:30.260 administrators
00:33:31.040 and everybody
00:33:31.580 else that
00:33:31.920 should be
00:33:32.360 standing up
00:33:32.920 for the
00:33:33.140 right things
00:33:33.480 but aren't
00:33:34.000 but it's
00:33:34.880 I think
00:33:35.460 partly because
00:33:36.080 it's so
00:33:36.520 fueled by
00:33:37.220 social media
00:33:37.880 and that
00:33:38.680 group doesn't
00:33:39.900 know how to
00:33:40.240 deal with it
00:33:40.940 is that just
00:33:41.840 another x
00:33:42.760 factor in this
00:33:43.760 it is although
00:33:44.580 you know I
00:33:45.520 don't I'm
00:33:46.280 careful not to
00:33:47.180 blame social
00:33:47.800 media too
00:33:48.320 much because
00:33:48.960 like most
00:33:50.060 things it can
00:33:50.800 be used for
00:33:51.440 good or bad
00:33:52.260 the number of
00:33:53.680 connections that
00:33:54.660 I have made
00:33:55.460 through social
00:33:56.480 media well
00:33:57.700 you and I
00:33:59.960 your game
00:34:00.900 mass the
00:34:01.560 owner of
00:34:02.280 inter
00:34:02.620 miami is
00:34:03.440 reaching out
00:34:04.060 elon musk
00:34:05.280 joe rogan
00:34:06.100 my my
00:34:07.140 all-time
00:34:07.900 favorite soul
00:34:09.220 singer from
00:34:10.500 the 1970s
00:34:11.580 lead singer of
00:34:13.080 the stylistic
00:34:13.700 yeah how am I
00:34:14.760 hanging around
00:34:15.360 with this guy
00:34:16.000 in philadelphia
00:34:16.820 when he was
00:34:17.740 singing in my
00:34:18.380 ears when I
00:34:18.880 was 12 years
00:34:19.480 old so
00:34:20.320 no I know
00:34:21.120 I've met
00:34:21.540 I've met
00:34:21.960 basically anyone
00:34:23.020 I ever wanted
00:34:23.660 to meet in my
00:34:24.260 life because of
00:34:25.140 twitter and the
00:34:25.780 internet
00:34:26.020 exactly
00:34:26.480 so you can't
00:34:28.180 you know
00:34:28.480 it's a tool
00:34:29.660 that can be
00:34:30.420 used for great
00:34:31.420 nefarious purposes
00:34:33.260 or it can
00:34:34.080 spread great
00:34:34.960 ideas and cause
00:34:35.820 people who are
00:34:36.480 like-minded to
00:34:37.160 connect so
00:34:38.060 it's you know
00:34:38.800 depends how you
00:34:39.440 use it
00:34:39.860 but but do you
00:34:42.640 think that there's
00:34:43.260 the weird thing I
00:34:44.360 think really right
00:34:45.000 now is that one
00:34:45.760 side knows how to
00:34:46.860 really use it
00:34:47.600 that's true for the
00:34:48.260 negativity and as
00:34:49.100 Jordan would talk
00:34:49.820 about Jordan
00:34:50.220 Peterson they're
00:34:51.320 fueled largely by
00:34:52.420 narcissism and
00:34:53.360 been fed all the
00:34:54.060 wrong ideas and
00:34:55.300 now these guys
00:34:55.960 they didn't grow up
00:34:56.680 with these tools so
00:34:57.460 that is a bit of
00:34:58.440 being so they
00:34:58.940 didn't grow up
00:34:59.460 with those tools
00:34:59.980 and to my
00:35:00.480 earlier point
00:35:01.200 they're inverse
00:35:01.860 invertebrate
00:35:02.620 castrati right
00:35:03.700 so you just go
00:35:04.520 boo and then
00:35:05.780 they say okay
00:35:06.500 whatever you want
00:35:07.340 I will completely
00:35:08.180 fold I will
00:35:08.920 completely acquiesce
00:35:09.960 because there is
00:35:10.720 nothing more
00:35:11.380 threatening to me
00:35:12.240 than I'm speaking
00:35:13.160 as them now
00:35:13.700 than having a
00:35:14.720 bunch of you
00:35:15.500 know rabid
00:35:16.120 maniacs coming at
00:35:17.240 me whereas my
00:35:18.440 personality is when
00:35:19.720 you come after me
00:35:20.840 it only emboldens
00:35:22.200 me it only makes
00:35:23.120 me angrier I
00:35:24.360 double down on
00:35:25.220 everything I
00:35:25.600 remember at one
00:35:26.300 point I don't
00:35:26.760 know if you saw
00:35:27.380 this thing
00:35:27.840 Valerie Bertinelli
00:35:29.880 came after me
00:35:30.660 oh Valerie
00:35:31.080 Bertinelli
00:35:31.620 70s sitcom
00:35:32.800 star
00:35:33.340 exactly I mean
00:35:34.820 I'm a bit older
00:35:35.600 than you but
00:35:36.140 so here's what
00:35:37.720 had happened
00:35:38.180 I had posted
00:35:40.540 a tweet meant
00:35:41.860 to demonstrate
00:35:42.660 how lovely
00:35:43.860 and sweet
00:35:45.560 my wife is
00:35:46.500 in that we
00:35:47.140 were going
00:35:47.940 we were at
00:35:48.380 a cafe and
00:35:49.640 she went to
00:35:50.680 order from the
00:35:51.500 barista the
00:35:52.540 barista looked
00:35:53.520 like they were
00:35:54.380 a non-gender
00:35:55.580 non-true spirit
00:35:57.620 whatever and
00:35:58.620 so when she
00:35:59.080 came back to
00:35:59.720 me she said
00:36:00.280 oh you know
00:36:01.120 I felt
00:36:01.680 uncomfortable
00:36:02.100 because I
00:36:02.940 didn't know
00:36:03.520 how to
00:36:03.920 address them
00:36:04.660 and I
00:36:05.300 didn't want
00:36:05.900 to make a
00:36:06.480 mistake and
00:36:06.920 hurt them
00:36:07.280 so I
00:36:08.080 tweeted that
00:36:09.160 as a
00:36:09.960 demonstration
00:36:10.580 of how
00:36:11.400 lovely my
00:36:12.640 wife is
00:36:13.220 that she
00:36:13.700 doesn't want
00:36:14.060 to hurt
00:36:14.320 she was
00:36:15.100 sensitive
00:36:15.540 so like you
00:36:16.160 would think
00:36:16.620 that the
00:36:17.320 pink coalition
00:36:18.200 or whatever
00:36:18.760 they call it
00:36:19.260 would be
00:36:19.760 erecting statues
00:36:21.100 of my
00:36:21.540 wife
00:36:21.740 so that
00:36:22.740 was flipped
00:36:23.340 into
00:36:23.900 Gadsad
00:36:25.020 talks about
00:36:25.820 how his
00:36:26.460 wife was
00:36:27.440 so threatened
00:36:28.400 by the
00:36:29.000 trance thing
00:36:29.680 so for the
00:36:30.780 next two
00:36:31.280 three days
00:36:32.000 you know
00:36:32.560 20 million
00:36:33.260 of these
00:36:33.680 guys all
00:36:34.400 spearheaded
00:36:35.600 by this
00:36:36.100 Valerie Bertinelli
00:36:37.040 come after
00:36:37.880 me
00:36:38.180 well now
00:36:39.580 if I didn't
00:36:40.100 have a strong
00:36:40.760 personhood
00:36:41.400 I wilt
00:36:42.260 I troll
00:36:43.820 more
00:36:44.340 I hid
00:36:44.800 under my
00:36:45.340 desk
00:36:45.700 I did
00:36:46.120 self-flagging
00:36:46.680 and guess
00:36:47.400 what
00:36:47.720 they go
00:36:48.440 away
00:36:48.780 because they
00:36:49.280 feel as
00:36:49.860 though
00:36:50.100 you're
00:36:51.100 untouchable
00:36:51.960 like nothing
00:36:52.560 that they
00:36:52.960 can see
00:36:53.220 but those
00:36:54.280 administrators
00:36:54.820 that you're
00:36:55.240 speaking about
00:36:55.880 don't have
00:36:57.040 that ability
00:36:57.880 and therefore
00:36:58.600 isn't that a
00:36:59.820 bizarre thing
00:37:00.320 if you would
00:37:00.720 have said
00:37:01.080 in 1978
00:37:02.000 boy Valerie
00:37:02.920 Bertinelli
00:37:03.460 is going to
00:37:03.920 go after me
00:37:04.540 on this
00:37:04.840 thing called
00:37:05.300 Twitter
00:37:05.620 one day
00:37:06.260 you know
00:37:06.580 I had
00:37:06.960 some
00:37:07.240 it doesn't
00:37:07.560 even matter
00:37:07.920 who
00:37:08.100 there was
00:37:08.400 a former
00:37:08.780 NBA coach
00:37:09.580 who was
00:37:10.180 going after
00:37:10.660 me one
00:37:11.040 day a couple
00:37:11.460 years ago
00:37:12.040 a guy who
00:37:12.880 I think
00:37:13.380 was Jeff
00:37:14.080 Van Gundy
00:37:14.580 or Stan
00:37:15.100 Van Gundy
00:37:15.500 one of them
00:37:15.900 like he was
00:37:16.300 coach of the
00:37:16.660 Knicks
00:37:16.800 and I was
00:37:17.700 just like
00:37:18.060 this is so
00:37:18.840 insane
00:37:21.100 a coach
00:37:21.500 and all
00:37:21.800 the basketball
00:37:22.180 that I've ever
00:37:22.480 watched
00:37:22.700 and now
00:37:22.920 this guy
00:37:23.240 is basically
00:37:23.660 calling me
00:37:24.020 racist
00:37:24.460 or something
00:37:25.140 to that effect
00:37:25.680 like you
00:37:25.980 can't make
00:37:26.400 this stuff
00:37:26.840 up
00:37:27.040 but that's
00:37:27.500 that's the
00:37:28.040 weird reality
00:37:28.680 that we're
00:37:29.040 in right now
00:37:29.480 indeed
00:37:30.040 but I mean
00:37:31.160 to our earlier
00:37:31.700 point
00:37:32.060 I wake up
00:37:33.560 every day
00:37:33.900 and I can't
00:37:34.500 believe how
00:37:35.420 fortunate I am
00:37:37.020 that I had
00:37:37.800 the type of
00:37:38.440 personality
00:37:38.940 that didn't
00:37:39.780 make me be
00:37:40.660 a stay-in-year-lane
00:37:41.500 professor
00:37:41.940 so that's
00:37:43.320 actually a tension
00:37:43.980 which I talk
00:37:44.500 about in the
00:37:44.880 happiness book
00:37:45.460 hyper-specialization
00:37:47.200 versus being a
00:37:48.320 generalist
00:37:48.820 right
00:37:49.020 academia
00:37:49.980 teaches you
00:37:51.520 to be
00:37:52.000 a stay-in-your-lane
00:37:53.180 hyper-specialist
00:37:54.160 know a lot
00:37:55.460 about a very
00:37:56.720 very small thing
00:37:57.680 make your mark
00:37:58.560 there
00:37:58.840 and never
00:37:59.440 deviate
00:37:59.880 kind of like
00:38:00.280 the horse
00:38:00.680 with the
00:38:01.080 with the
00:38:01.860 is it the
00:38:02.300 blinkers
00:38:02.680 they're called
00:38:02.980 right
00:38:03.380 so that you
00:38:04.300 can never
00:38:04.720 look sideways
00:38:05.380 right
00:38:05.640 whereas I
00:38:06.620 don't have
00:38:07.020 that temperament
00:38:07.700 right
00:38:07.880 I want
00:38:08.920 to sample
00:38:09.660 everything in
00:38:10.420 life
00:38:10.580 so my research
00:38:11.500 demonstrates
00:38:12.340 that I publish
00:38:13.180 in medicine
00:38:13.800 and psychology
00:38:14.740 and evolutionary
00:38:15.480 theory
00:38:15.900 and marketing
00:38:16.560 and politics
00:38:17.540 I just go
00:38:18.440 wherever a
00:38:18.880 problem interests
00:38:19.440 me
00:38:19.580 when I started
00:38:20.140 doing public
00:38:21.100 engagement
00:38:21.620 and going on
00:38:22.240 the Joe Rogan
00:38:23.180 and so on
00:38:23.900 all my
00:38:24.900 academic colleagues
00:38:26.320 would
00:38:26.600 what are you
00:38:28.760 talking to
00:38:29.160 Joe Rogan
00:38:29.580 who talks to
00:38:30.600 such a guy
00:38:31.040 I'm like
00:38:31.340 he's got 20
00:38:32.420 million
00:38:32.640 I mean are you
00:38:33.160 kidding me
00:38:33.620 shouldn't you
00:38:35.180 be promoting
00:38:36.220 such outreach
00:38:37.520 and so
00:38:38.400 the fact that I
00:38:40.060 have this kind
00:38:40.940 of polymath
00:38:42.260 approach to life
00:38:43.360 and hence
00:38:44.220 that's why by the
00:38:44.740 way I love
00:38:45.100 Leonardo da Vinci
00:38:45.780 because he's the
00:38:46.400 ultimate
00:38:46.760 renaissance man
00:38:48.360 he did it all
00:38:49.320 allowed me to
00:38:51.500 meet people
00:38:52.660 glorious like you
00:38:54.260 and I'm gonna
00:38:54.920 take you to dinner
00:38:55.760 and you're gonna
00:38:56.480 take me to dinner
00:38:56.920 and you're gonna
00:38:57.480 pay for it
00:38:57.960 I was gonna say
00:38:58.520 and you can get
00:38:58.940 anything you want
00:38:59.520 under 20 dollars
00:39:00.260 pretty good
00:39:00.780 let's talk about
00:39:03.340 the happiness part
00:39:03.980 of this for a second
00:39:04.480 because it seems
00:39:06.520 to me that we're
00:39:07.000 in this bizarre
00:39:07.520 moment now
00:39:08.140 where people
00:39:09.160 have more
00:39:10.120 than they've
00:39:11.040 probably
00:39:11.360 that humans
00:39:12.000 could have ever
00:39:12.540 imagined
00:39:13.040 and we've all
00:39:14.480 got this thing
00:39:15.020 and access
00:39:15.440 to the world
00:39:16.100 and all the
00:39:16.600 goodness
00:39:17.020 and the badness
00:39:17.940 that comes
00:39:18.260 with that
00:39:18.480 and everything
00:39:18.740 else
00:39:18.960 but we know
00:39:19.660 we now have
00:39:20.440 you know
00:39:20.840 basically an epidemic
00:39:21.760 of neuroses
00:39:23.320 and paranoia
00:39:24.540 and all sorts
00:39:25.860 of psychological
00:39:26.260 problems
00:39:26.960 and depression
00:39:27.500 and I think
00:39:28.740 a lot of this
00:39:29.160 has to do
00:39:29.460 with COVID
00:39:29.860 also
00:39:30.280 and yet
00:39:32.160 we have so
00:39:32.900 many ways
00:39:33.480 to find happiness
00:39:34.940 that maybe
00:39:35.600 we didn't have
00:39:36.100 before
00:39:36.400 people that we
00:39:37.080 can learn
00:39:37.420 something about
00:39:37.940 happiness from
00:39:38.560 that's a strange
00:39:39.520 dichotomy
00:39:40.040 so I'm gonna
00:39:41.660 give a bit
00:39:42.040 of a technical
00:39:42.540 answer from
00:39:43.880 evolutionary theory
00:39:44.600 so there's
00:39:45.040 something in
00:39:45.440 evolutionary theory
00:39:46.000 called the
00:39:46.440 mismatch hypothesis
00:39:47.520 the mismatch
00:39:48.720 hypothesis
00:39:49.260 basically argues
00:39:50.460 that many
00:39:51.460 traits that
00:39:52.460 would have
00:39:52.740 been
00:39:52.900 evolutionarily
00:39:53.860 advantageous
00:39:54.820 in our
00:39:55.380 ancestral past
00:39:56.280 in the
00:39:57.040 modern environment
00:39:58.000 if there is
00:39:58.640 a mismatch
00:39:59.320 between the
00:39:59.820 ancestral environment
00:40:00.720 where that
00:40:01.340 behavior was
00:40:02.280 adaptive
00:40:02.720 and today's
00:40:03.800 environment
00:40:04.180 where it no
00:40:04.720 longer is
00:40:05.140 adaptive
00:40:05.480 you have
00:40:05.820 that mismatch
00:40:06.500 so for
00:40:07.060 example
00:40:07.320 when it
00:40:07.600 comes to
00:40:07.900 the top
00:40:08.320 health
00:40:08.600 killers
00:40:09.000 colon cancer
00:40:10.580 diabetes
00:40:11.200 heart disease
00:40:11.900 and so on
00:40:12.340 many of
00:40:13.260 those diseases
00:40:13.880 you don't
00:40:14.340 typically find
00:40:15.020 them in
00:40:15.360 hunter-gatherer
00:40:16.180 societies that
00:40:16.860 mimic our
00:40:17.320 evolutionary past
00:40:18.100 because here's
00:40:19.120 what happens
00:40:19.640 we evolved in
00:40:20.860 an environment
00:40:21.360 of caloric
00:40:22.100 scarcity
00:40:22.580 and caloric
00:40:23.140 uncertainty
00:40:23.660 therefore we
00:40:24.900 gorge foods
00:40:25.760 we eat a lot
00:40:27.160 of high caloric
00:40:28.240 foods
00:40:28.580 that's perfectly
00:40:29.580 adaptive in that
00:40:30.640 evolutionary environment
00:40:31.740 but today
00:40:32.560 where the only
00:40:33.560 uncertainty is
00:40:34.280 how long is it
00:40:34.800 gonna take me
00:40:35.200 to get to
00:40:35.540 mcdonald's
00:40:36.120 right
00:40:36.660 then I get
00:40:37.800 overweight
00:40:38.260 my blood
00:40:39.060 pressure goes
00:40:39.560 up
00:40:39.720 I develop
00:40:40.360 colon
00:40:40.640 and so on
00:40:41.540 well the same
00:40:42.700 principle applies
00:40:43.620 for the happiness
00:40:44.400 calculus
00:40:44.880 we've evolved
00:40:46.180 to be in
00:40:46.880 small bands
00:40:47.660 of people
00:40:48.180 that really
00:40:48.700 matter to us
00:40:49.340 so for example
00:40:49.800 in the happiness
00:40:50.340 book I talk
00:40:50.940 about the
00:40:51.700 longest
00:40:53.260 longitudinal study
00:40:54.900 in I think
00:40:55.860 the history
00:40:56.220 of the social
00:40:56.640 sciences
00:40:57.020 and the health
00:40:57.860 sciences
00:40:58.200 is the Harvard
00:40:59.180 study on
00:40:59.920 adult well-being
00:41:01.340 and the number
00:41:02.300 one thing they
00:41:02.940 found after
00:41:03.900 80 years of
00:41:04.720 research in
00:41:05.560 terms of
00:41:06.000 what is the
00:41:06.620 biggest predictor
00:41:07.360 of happiness
00:41:07.840 is the quality
00:41:08.960 of the social
00:41:09.660 relationships you
00:41:10.460 have
00:41:10.660 but not only
00:41:11.580 does it affect
00:41:12.160 your mental
00:41:12.740 well-being
00:41:13.260 it actually
00:41:14.280 serves as a
00:41:15.400 protective shield
00:41:16.460 even for
00:41:17.260 physiological things
00:41:18.460 like heart
00:41:19.020 disease
00:41:19.340 so your
00:41:20.060 cholesterol levels
00:41:21.060 at age 50
00:41:22.100 are lesser
00:41:22.840 predictor of
00:41:24.040 heart disease
00:41:24.660 than if you
00:41:25.280 have high
00:41:26.040 quality relationships
00:41:27.060 so if we're
00:41:28.020 spending all day
00:41:28.860 on the internet
00:41:29.640 not building
00:41:30.460 these meaningful
00:41:31.620 relationships
00:41:32.280 we could live
00:41:33.360 in New York
00:41:33.800 city surrounded
00:41:34.540 by 8 million
00:41:35.240 people and yet
00:41:35.940 we're very
00:41:36.500 very lonely
00:41:37.160 and so the
00:41:38.100 loneliness
00:41:38.500 epidemic
00:41:39.620 coupled with
00:41:40.620 the mismatch
00:41:41.160 hypothesis
00:41:41.700 results in
00:41:42.820 the happiness
00:41:43.580 problems
00:41:44.220 that we see
00:41:44.560 how much of
00:41:44.980 that do you
00:41:45.280 think has to
00:41:45.720 do with our
00:41:46.120 genes that
00:41:46.640 just some
00:41:47.260 people just
00:41:47.840 have a
00:41:48.160 disposition
00:41:48.740 that might
00:41:49.520 lend themselves
00:41:50.060 to wanting
00:41:50.660 to be around
00:41:51.100 people more
00:41:51.600 thus they
00:41:52.160 then get the
00:41:52.740 benefits of
00:41:53.260 that versus
00:41:54.140 the other
00:41:54.460 version
00:41:54.620 that's a
00:41:55.000 fantastic
00:41:55.280 question
00:41:55.600 so in
00:41:55.920 the first
00:41:56.680 very early
00:41:57.620 in the
00:41:57.880 happiness book
00:41:58.440 I start by
00:41:59.540 talking about
00:42:00.280 50% of
00:42:02.240 your happiness
00:42:03.740 scores or
00:42:04.280 individual
00:42:05.940 scores
00:42:06.200 stem from
00:42:06.880 our genes
00:42:07.300 so at
00:42:08.040 first thought
00:42:09.320 you might say
00:42:09.840 oh so it's
00:42:10.720 genetically
00:42:11.160 inscribed
00:42:11.480 but that
00:42:12.200 leaves 50%
00:42:13.460 up for grabs
00:42:14.420 so I may
00:42:15.520 start off
00:42:16.280 having a much
00:42:17.100 sunnier disposition
00:42:17.960 than you
00:42:18.600 but then if I
00:42:19.600 make wrong
00:42:20.280 decisions
00:42:20.780 if I adopt
00:42:21.780 poor mindsets
00:42:23.420 whereas you
00:42:24.120 don't
00:42:24.480 you might end
00:42:25.300 up summiting
00:42:26.120 Mount Happiness
00:42:26.840 much more
00:42:27.500 quickly than I
00:42:28.120 do and so
00:42:28.700 in a sense
00:42:29.660 that's a hopeful
00:42:30.260 message because
00:42:30.920 if I had told
00:42:32.060 you that the
00:42:32.460 research shows
00:42:33.020 that 95%
00:42:34.420 of our
00:42:35.040 happiness
00:42:35.580 differences
00:42:36.100 come from
00:42:36.580 our genes
00:42:37.020 then that
00:42:37.700 doesn't leave
00:42:38.140 us much
00:42:38.480 to play
00:42:38.820 with
00:42:39.040 I think
00:42:39.600 we talked
00:42:39.980 about this
00:42:40.320 when I
00:42:40.540 had you
00:42:40.840 on to
00:42:41.140 discuss
00:42:41.440 the book
00:42:41.700 last time
00:42:42.140 but do you
00:42:42.520 think too
00:42:42.880 many people
00:42:43.320 are aiming
00:42:43.880 at happiness
00:42:44.680 that society
00:42:45.760 put too
00:42:46.160 much aim
00:42:46.480 at happiness
00:42:46.900 as opposed
00:42:47.340 to purpose
00:42:47.920 and if you're
00:42:48.740 just chasing
00:42:49.260 happiness
00:42:49.740 you're never
00:42:50.160 going to be
00:42:50.500 happy
00:42:50.840 where purpose
00:42:51.620 happiness
00:42:52.220 is the byproduct
00:42:52.980 so I
00:42:53.500 in the
00:42:54.580 last chapter
00:42:55.400 of the
00:42:55.640 happiness book
00:42:56.240 I take a
00:42:57.080 quote from
00:42:57.600 Viktor Frankl
00:42:58.460 where in
00:43:00.000 his case
00:43:00.440 he's talking
00:43:00.900 about the
00:43:01.740 willful
00:43:03.060 pursuit
00:43:03.380 of success
00:43:04.040 and he's
00:43:04.700 saying
00:43:05.000 I'm paraphrasing
00:43:05.940 his word
00:43:06.220 don't pursue
00:43:07.260 success
00:43:07.780 it has to
00:43:08.380 be something
00:43:08.860 that is
00:43:09.760 a consequence
00:43:10.440 of you
00:43:11.180 making the
00:43:11.760 right decision
00:43:12.280 and I said
00:43:12.980 take that
00:43:13.540 quote
00:43:13.880 and just
00:43:14.260 replace
00:43:14.640 success
00:43:15.180 by happiness
00:43:16.180 and that's
00:43:16.580 exactly what
00:43:17.080 it should
00:43:17.280 be
00:43:17.400 right
00:43:17.540 so I
00:43:18.240 don't
00:43:18.440 wake up
00:43:18.900 in the
00:43:19.200 morning
00:43:19.420 and say
00:43:19.880 I need
00:43:20.720 to be
00:43:21.080 happy
00:43:21.440 today
00:43:21.740 but rather
00:43:22.380 if I
00:43:23.160 wake up
00:43:23.680 next to
00:43:24.160 a person
00:43:24.640 that I
00:43:25.020 really
00:43:25.280 love
00:43:25.660 well
00:43:26.320 I'm
00:43:26.600 well on
00:43:26.900 my way
00:43:27.200 preferably
00:43:27.680 your wife
00:43:28.180 preferably
00:43:28.600 my wife
00:43:29.160 although I
00:43:29.760 just watched
00:43:30.440 a documentary
00:43:31.420 on Ashley
00:43:32.300 Madison
00:43:32.740 I haven't
00:43:34.140 seen it
00:43:34.420 but I
00:43:34.620 know it's
00:43:34.860 on Netflix
00:43:35.280 and actually
00:43:37.180 I came
00:43:37.840 close
00:43:38.480 to being
00:43:39.560 hired
00:43:40.180 as their
00:43:40.960 scientific
00:43:41.500 advisor
00:43:42.240 back in
00:43:43.460 2015
00:43:44.200 as the
00:43:44.960 hack
00:43:45.240 was going
00:43:45.600 to happen
00:43:46.020 so I
00:43:46.900 escaped
00:43:47.480 the big
00:43:47.880 one
00:43:47.980 I
00:43:48.780 dodged
00:43:49.200 a massive
00:43:49.880 bullet
00:43:50.180 so anyways
00:43:52.040 so if
00:43:53.680 you wake
00:43:53.980 up next
00:43:54.320 to a
00:43:54.580 person
00:43:54.820 that you
00:43:55.200 really
00:43:55.460 appreciate
00:43:55.940 and then
00:43:56.680 as you
00:43:57.220 kiss
00:43:57.420 them
00:43:57.660 goodbye
00:43:58.260 and you
00:43:58.580 head off
00:43:59.020 to your
00:43:59.300 job
00:43:59.640 it's one
00:44:00.500 that gives
00:44:00.960 you
00:44:01.160 you rub
00:44:02.100 your hands
00:44:02.600 in existential
00:44:03.260 glee
00:44:03.680 you're excited
00:44:04.340 about the
00:44:05.100 looming
00:44:05.840 day
00:44:06.140 and then
00:44:06.740 you return
00:44:07.280 home to
00:44:08.120 that person
00:44:08.740 that you
00:44:09.080 really enjoyed
00:44:09.640 waking up
00:44:10.160 next to
00:44:10.580 well you're
00:44:11.380 already well
00:44:11.940 on your way
00:44:12.300 to being
00:44:12.560 happy
00:44:12.780 so I
00:44:13.040 have a
00:44:13.280 whole chapter
00:44:13.780 on the
00:44:14.480 two most
00:44:14.860 important
00:44:15.220 decisions
00:44:15.620 that you
00:44:15.960 can make
00:44:16.340 that either
00:44:16.760 give you
00:44:17.100 great happiness
00:44:17.980 or misery
00:44:18.560 choosing the
00:44:19.420 right spouse
00:44:19.920 choosing the
00:44:20.580 right profession
00:44:21.280 and of course
00:44:22.240 the devil's in
00:44:22.880 detail how do
00:44:23.520 you go about
00:44:23.960 doing that
00:44:24.380 but then I
00:44:25.120 talk about
00:44:25.660 life as a
00:44:26.340 playground
00:44:26.780 having a
00:44:28.380 playful
00:44:28.780 mindset
00:44:29.340 is incredibly
00:44:30.440 important
00:44:30.940 and I
00:44:31.260 even talk
00:44:31.860 about the
00:44:32.660 most dire
00:44:33.400 of circumstances
00:44:34.400 people who
00:44:35.780 were in the
00:44:36.180 holocaust
00:44:36.840 engaged in
00:44:37.840 play
00:44:38.180 I was in
00:44:39.080 the Lebanese
00:44:39.620 civil war
00:44:40.320 which was
00:44:40.740 just a
00:44:41.600 butcher shop
00:44:43.460 killings
00:44:44.760 everywhere
00:44:45.200 we still
00:44:46.100 played
00:44:46.600 right I
00:44:47.200 mean my
00:44:47.480 parents would
00:44:47.940 tell me
00:44:48.340 if you're
00:44:48.920 going to go
00:44:49.360 outside don't
00:44:50.060 cross this
00:44:50.540 particular line
00:44:51.400 because that
00:44:52.180 would open
00:44:52.760 you up to
00:44:53.720 the site
00:44:54.340 to the scope
00:44:55.180 of the
00:44:55.880 snipers
00:44:56.440 so imagine
00:44:57.860 your parents
00:44:58.640 telling you
00:44:59.100 yeah go
00:44:59.480 play but
00:44:59.920 just don't
00:45:00.340 cross this
00:45:00.800 line because
00:45:01.440 then those
00:45:02.080 guys will
00:45:02.720 blow your
00:45:03.240 brains
00:45:03.660 we still
00:45:04.580 went out
00:45:05.000 and played
00:45:05.460 and so
00:45:06.340 having that
00:45:07.560 mindset
00:45:08.060 variety seeking
00:45:09.320 is very
00:45:09.660 important to
00:45:10.180 my earlier
00:45:10.600 point about
00:45:11.320 being a
00:45:12.200 generalist
00:45:13.000 don't only
00:45:14.320 read one
00:45:15.140 type of
00:45:15.580 book
00:45:15.860 sample from
00:45:16.740 many types
00:45:17.260 of book
00:45:17.560 don't always
00:45:18.220 go to the
00:45:18.700 same vacation
00:45:19.380 spot
00:45:19.800 there's a
00:45:20.520 whole world
00:45:21.000 to discover
00:45:21.540 I'm an
00:45:22.700 intellectual
00:45:23.180 variety
00:45:23.680 seeker
00:45:24.060 I do
00:45:25.020 research in
00:45:25.540 many areas
00:45:26.020 I said
00:45:26.320 earlier
00:45:26.620 I read
00:45:27.080 many
00:45:27.280 different
00:45:27.600 types
00:45:27.820 of books
00:45:28.060 so I
00:45:29.600 also talk
00:45:30.120 about
00:45:30.340 regret
00:45:30.860 if you
00:45:31.280 want
00:45:31.400 we could
00:45:31.600 talk
00:45:31.740 about
00:45:31.920 that
00:45:32.120 so in
00:45:33.260 the book
00:45:33.500 I talk
00:45:33.860 about
00:45:34.180 the two
00:45:34.920 sources of
00:45:36.200 regret
00:45:36.540 that most
00:45:37.000 people
00:45:37.380 suffer
00:45:37.980 from
00:45:38.340 is either
00:45:38.820 this is
00:45:39.600 actually
00:45:39.880 from one
00:45:40.300 of my
00:45:40.560 former
00:45:41.140 psychology
00:45:41.640 professors
00:45:42.320 during my
00:45:43.040 PhD
00:45:43.380 his name
00:45:44.180 is Thomas
00:45:44.480 Gilovich
00:45:44.840 so he
00:45:45.280 pioneered
00:45:45.820 the study
00:45:46.440 of the
00:45:46.700 psychology
00:45:47.160 of regret
00:45:47.760 specifically
00:45:48.640 regret
00:45:49.100 due to
00:45:49.520 action
00:45:50.000 versus
00:45:50.620 regret
00:45:51.000 due
00:45:51.220 to
00:45:51.440 inaction
00:45:51.960 regret
00:45:52.600 due
00:45:52.780 to
00:45:52.900 action
00:45:53.440 I
00:45:53.780 regret
00:45:54.140 that I
00:45:54.480 cheated
00:45:54.700 on my
00:45:54.980 wife
00:45:55.260 and now
00:45:55.700 I'm
00:45:55.980 divorced
00:45:56.360 regret
00:45:57.160 due
00:45:57.400 to
00:45:57.560 inaction
00:45:58.080 is
00:45:58.560 I
00:45:58.800 regret
00:45:59.140 that I
00:45:59.480 never
00:45:59.720 pursued
00:46:00.180 my
00:46:00.420 interest
00:46:00.820 in the
00:46:01.160 arts
00:46:01.480 I
00:46:01.940 became
00:46:02.240 a
00:46:02.420 pediatrician
00:46:03.040 because
00:46:03.300 my
00:46:03.580 dad
00:46:03.780 was a
00:46:04.100 pediatrician
00:46:04.640 and his
00:46:04.960 mom
00:46:05.200 was a
00:46:05.520 pediatrician
00:46:05.980 and therefore
00:46:06.320 it was
00:46:06.580 expected of
00:46:07.180 me
00:46:07.320 then I
00:46:07.800 wake up
00:46:08.080 at 55
00:46:08.600 and I
00:46:08.900 say I
00:46:09.100 hate
00:46:09.620 medicine
00:46:10.000 are there
00:46:10.600 numbers on
00:46:11.180 which people
00:46:11.640 usually suffer
00:46:12.260 from
00:46:12.560 what can
00:46:13.340 you predict
00:46:13.860 which is
00:46:14.360 which is
00:46:14.760 the one
00:46:15.000 that
00:46:15.140 I'm
00:46:15.680 probably
00:46:15.920 going to
00:46:16.100 get it
00:46:16.340 wrong
00:46:16.520 but my
00:46:16.880 gut
00:46:17.180 feeling
00:46:17.480 would be
00:46:17.800 most people
00:46:18.440 predict
00:46:19.040 fear
00:46:20.160 or regret
00:46:21.060 the things
00:46:21.940 that they
00:46:22.260 did not
00:46:22.740 do
00:46:23.020 more than
00:46:23.560 the
00:46:23.720 action
00:46:23.920 exactly
00:46:24.220 right
00:46:24.460 so
00:46:25.040 over
00:46:25.540 because I
00:46:25.840 know
00:46:25.960 people obviously
00:46:26.660 do a lot
00:46:27.220 of bad
00:46:27.500 things
00:46:27.760 but I
00:46:28.040 think
00:46:28.200 the thing
00:46:28.560 that you
00:46:28.820 sit
00:46:29.160 with
00:46:29.380 more
00:46:29.660 is
00:46:29.840 oh
00:46:30.020 damn
00:46:30.360 I
00:46:30.520 should
00:46:30.700 have
00:46:30.800 done
00:46:30.980 that
00:46:31.200 your
00:46:31.440 intuition
00:46:31.860 is
00:46:32.060 exactly
00:46:32.360 right
00:46:32.620 the
00:46:33.160 biggest
00:46:34.320 looming
00:46:34.860 regrets
00:46:35.480 over the
00:46:36.080 long
00:46:36.440 haul
00:46:36.960 are
00:46:37.820 the
00:46:38.160 roads
00:46:38.520 not
00:46:38.840 taken
00:46:39.260 I
00:46:39.940 should
00:46:40.280 have
00:46:40.580 I
00:46:40.860 wish
00:46:41.200 I
00:46:41.400 would
00:46:41.620 have
00:46:41.860 right
00:46:42.060 and
00:46:42.600 therefore
00:46:42.920 I
00:46:43.200 talk
00:46:43.520 in the
00:46:47.480 that
00:46:47.740 hopefully
00:46:48.140 can
00:46:48.480 forestall
00:46:49.100 the
00:46:49.340 likelihood
00:46:49.820 of that
00:46:50.180 happening
00:46:50.540 so
00:46:50.780 for
00:46:51.340 example
00:46:51.780 I
00:46:52.800 thought
00:46:52.920 you
00:46:53.060 two
00:46:53.360 quick
00:46:53.600 stories
00:46:54.000 of
00:46:54.220 guys
00:46:54.520 where
00:46:54.820 it's
00:46:55.200 not
00:46:55.340 even
00:46:55.580 you
00:46:56.240 would
00:46:56.380 have
00:46:56.500 thought
00:46:56.680 it's
00:46:56.900 too
00:46:57.100 late
00:46:57.340 for
00:46:57.500 them
00:46:57.660 to
00:46:57.840 pursue
00:46:58.140 these
00:46:58.420 things
00:46:58.760 but
00:46:59.380 they
00:46:59.560 did
00:46:59.780 so
00:47:00.040 one
00:47:00.560 guy
00:47:00.900 this
00:47:01.360 was
00:47:01.580 probably
00:47:01.980 two
00:47:02.280 years
00:47:02.560 into
00:47:02.820 my
00:47:03.180 professorship
00:47:03.860 at
00:47:04.040 Concordia
00:47:04.500 so
00:47:04.640 maybe
00:47:05.000 mid
00:47:05.260 90s
00:47:05.740 he
00:47:06.440 got
00:47:06.680 his
00:47:06.860 PhD
00:47:07.360 he
00:47:07.820 was
00:47:08.000 91
00:47:08.580 or
00:47:08.780 92
00:47:09.220 he
00:47:10.100 left
00:47:11.020 Nazi
00:47:12.120 Germany
00:47:12.580 as
00:47:12.880 the
00:47:13.020 Nazis
00:47:13.260 were
00:47:13.460 coming
00:47:13.660 in
00:47:13.780 he
00:47:13.880 was
00:47:14.000 a
00:47:14.120 Jewish
00:47:14.300 guy
00:47:14.600 so
00:47:14.840 maybe
00:47:15.320 1933
00:47:16.680 around
00:47:17.440 then
00:47:17.680 34
00:47:18.100 before
00:47:18.680 the
00:47:19.080 start
00:47:19.240 of
00:47:19.340 the
00:47:19.440 war
00:47:19.620 he
00:47:20.240 moves
00:47:20.740 to
00:47:20.920 Canada
00:47:21.260 has
00:47:22.260 a
00:47:22.620 career
00:47:23.180 in
00:47:24.200 his
00:47:24.420 60s
00:47:24.900 he
00:47:25.020 retires
00:47:25.560 his
00:47:25.820 biggest
00:47:26.140 regret
00:47:26.740 had
00:47:27.300 been
00:47:27.620 that
00:47:28.140 he
00:47:28.240 had
00:47:28.380 never
00:47:28.640 had
00:47:28.940 an
00:47:29.080 opportunity
00:47:29.720 to
00:47:30.220 go
00:47:30.560 to
00:47:30.700 university
00:47:31.180 he
00:47:31.420 had
00:47:31.500 always
00:47:31.740 been
00:47:31.920 someone
00:47:32.180 who
00:47:32.340 was
00:47:32.480 interested
00:47:32.800 in
00:47:32.940 education
00:47:33.320 but
00:47:33.600 life
00:47:34.200 didn't
00:47:34.480 allow
00:47:34.720 him
00:47:34.940 so
00:47:35.360 in
00:47:35.480 his
00:47:35.620 60s
00:47:36.100 he
00:47:36.200 decides
00:47:36.720 I'm
00:47:37.520 going
00:47:37.760 to
00:47:38.160 pursue
00:47:38.840 my
00:47:39.080 bachelor's
00:47:39.600 in
00:47:39.700 his
00:47:39.880 60s
00:47:40.400 he
00:47:40.580 would
00:47:40.840 be
00:47:40.960 grandfather
00:47:41.560 to
00:47:41.780 most
00:47:41.980 of
00:47:42.100 the
00:47:42.180 kids
00:47:42.380 in
00:47:42.520 those
00:47:42.660 classes
00:47:42.940 finishes
00:47:43.600 his
00:47:43.880 undergrad
00:47:44.240 begins
00:47:45.100 his
00:47:45.360 master's
00:47:45.860 in
00:47:45.940 his
00:47:46.100 70s
00:47:46.680 finishes
00:47:47.720 his
00:47:48.020 master's
00:47:48.620 starts
00:47:49.080 his
00:47:49.280 PhDs
00:47:49.920 in
00:47:49.980 his
00:47:50.120 80s
00:47:50.500 gets
00:47:50.780 it
00:47:50.960 at
00:47:51.120 91
00:47:51.720 92
00:47:52.080 within
00:47:52.480 a
00:47:52.740 year
00:47:52.960 after
00:47:53.260 that
00:47:53.600 he
00:47:54.060 passes
00:47:54.440 away
00:47:54.780 so
00:47:55.220 he's
00:47:55.420 the
00:47:55.600 ultimate
00:47:56.020 lover
00:47:57.620 of
00:47:57.940 learning
00:47:58.280 because
00:47:58.540 he
00:47:58.680 did
00:47:58.820 it
00:47:58.920 for
00:47:59.040 no
00:47:59.240 other
00:47:59.480 reason
00:47:59.860 other
00:48:00.420 than
00:48:00.620 the
00:48:00.840 pure
00:48:01.200 pursuit
00:48:01.760 of
00:48:01.940 knowledge
00:48:02.260 intrinsically
00:48:02.880 motivated
00:48:03.360 second
00:48:04.080 story
00:48:04.540 and I
00:48:04.840 actually
00:48:05.060 had
00:48:05.340 this
00:48:05.560 guy
00:48:05.780 on
00:48:06.120 the
00:48:06.400 other
00:48:06.600 guy
00:48:06.840 passed
00:48:07.220 away
00:48:07.440 but
00:48:07.640 this
00:48:07.920 guy
00:48:08.120 that
00:48:08.240 I'm
00:48:08.320 going to
00:48:08.420 talk
00:48:08.600 about
00:48:08.820 I
00:48:09.160 had
00:48:09.340 him
00:48:09.440 on
00:48:09.560 my
00:48:09.700 show
00:48:09.960 his
00:48:10.440 name
00:48:10.620 is
00:48:10.800 Manfred
00:48:11.400 Steiner
00:48:11.860 he
00:48:12.700 got
00:48:14.120 his
00:48:14.480 MD
00:48:14.880 degree
00:48:15.360 in
00:48:15.700 the
00:48:15.860 mid
00:48:16.060 50s
00:48:16.660 in
00:48:16.820 Vienna
00:48:17.120 his
00:48:17.800 parents
00:48:18.360 said
00:48:18.740 do
00:48:19.840 something
00:48:20.200 practical
00:48:21.360 become
00:48:21.860 a
00:48:22.060 physician
00:48:22.400 that's
00:48:22.800 what
00:48:22.880 we
00:48:23.020 expect
00:48:23.320 of
00:48:23.460 you
00:48:23.600 his
00:48:24.360 love
00:48:24.640 had
00:48:24.800 always
00:48:25.080 been
00:48:25.260 physics
00:48:25.700 so
00:48:26.320 he
00:48:26.480 gets
00:48:26.720 an
00:48:26.920 MD
00:48:27.200 in
00:48:27.380 1955
00:48:28.020 in
00:48:28.460 1967
00:48:29.220 on
00:48:29.780 his
00:48:29.960 way
00:48:30.160 of
00:48:30.280 becoming
00:48:31.600 a
00:48:31.820 hematologist
00:48:32.500 blood
00:48:33.120 doctor
00:48:33.500 he
00:48:34.500 picks
00:48:34.720 up
00:48:34.880 a
00:48:35.020 PhD
00:48:35.440 in
00:48:36.040 biochemistry
00:48:36.720 I
00:48:37.020 think
00:48:37.160 at
00:48:37.280 MIT
00:48:37.660 has
00:48:38.540 a
00:48:38.720 full
00:48:38.960 career
00:48:39.460 as
00:48:40.000 a
00:48:40.140 hematologist
00:48:40.820 and
00:48:41.220 I
00:48:41.480 think
00:48:41.620 around
00:48:41.840 2000
00:48:42.440 in
00:48:43.020 his
00:48:43.220 70s
00:48:44.000 maybe
00:48:44.280 retires
00:48:45.340 decides
00:48:46.060 now
00:48:46.520 I'm
00:48:46.780 going
00:48:46.960 to
00:48:47.180 pursue
00:48:47.560 my
00:48:47.860 real
00:48:48.280 love
00:48:48.540 which
00:48:48.800 is
00:48:48.940 to
00:48:49.100 study
00:48:49.400 physics
00:48:49.840 start
00:48:50.480 studying
00:48:50.960 physics
00:48:51.480 gets
00:48:52.000 his
00:48:52.280 PhD
00:48:52.740 at
00:48:53.060 Brown
00:48:53.320 University
00:48:53.940 at
00:48:54.540 89
00:48:55.180 and
00:48:55.980 comes
00:48:56.240 on
00:48:56.420 my
00:48:56.620 show
00:48:56.900 to
00:48:57.360 talk
00:48:57.720 like
00:48:57.940 a
00:48:58.340 young
00:48:58.700 graduate
00:48:59.260 student
00:48:59.700 about
00:49:00.320 his
00:49:00.880 desire
00:49:01.280 to
00:49:01.520 publish
00:49:01.940 the
00:49:02.160 work
00:49:02.340 from
00:49:02.520 his
00:49:02.660 dissertation
00:49:03.040 what
00:49:03.720 does
00:49:03.840 this
00:49:04.000 guy
00:49:04.140 have
00:49:04.320 to
00:49:04.460 prove
00:49:04.780 he's
00:49:05.220 89
00:49:05.640 so
00:49:06.340 for
00:49:06.840 many
00:49:07.140 things
00:49:07.620 it's
00:49:08.040 never
00:49:08.260 too
00:49:08.540 late
00:49:08.820 so
00:49:09.160 don't
00:49:09.440 live
00:49:09.620 in
00:49:09.740 regret
00:49:10.040 do
00:49:10.360 it
00:49:10.580 do
00:49:11.000 you
00:49:11.080 think
00:49:11.200 there's
00:49:11.380 a
00:49:11.480 bizarre
00:49:11.800 moment
00:49:12.300 we're
00:49:12.500 having
00:49:12.760 where
00:49:12.960 the
00:49:13.120 entire
00:49:13.520 because
00:49:13.840 so
00:49:14.140 many
00:49:14.260 people
00:49:14.520 see
00:49:14.740 problems
00:49:15.180 with
00:49:15.520 the
00:49:15.720 system
00:49:16.180 that
00:49:17.280 it's
00:49:17.540 becoming
00:49:17.820 a
00:49:18.000 self
00:49:18.220 fulfilling
00:49:18.520 prophecy
00:49:19.020 that
00:49:19.340 their
00:49:26.620 oh
00:49:26.900 yeah
00:49:27.160 and it
00:49:27.480 was
00:49:27.620 one
00:49:27.800 of
00:49:27.920 the
00:49:28.020 most
00:49:28.240 disgusting
00:49:29.000 speeches
00:49:29.800 you're
00:49:30.120 going
00:49:30.300 nowhere
00:49:30.860 we'll
00:49:32.200 throw
00:49:32.360 to it
00:49:32.740 it's
00:49:33.460 natural
00:49:33.780 to wonder
00:49:34.340 democracy
00:49:36.060 you hear
00:49:36.480 about
00:49:36.760 actually
00:49:37.160 works
00:49:37.560 for you
00:49:38.000 what
00:49:39.880 is
00:49:40.100 democracy
00:49:40.720 if
00:49:42.100 black
00:49:42.400 men
00:49:42.580 are
00:49:42.680 being
00:49:42.880 killed
00:49:43.160 in
00:49:43.280 the
00:49:43.400 street
00:49:43.740 what
00:49:44.840 is
00:49:45.040 democracy
00:49:45.680 the
00:49:46.860 trail
00:49:47.200 of
00:49:47.380 broken
00:49:47.640 promises
00:49:48.100 still
00:49:48.420 leave
00:49:48.640 black
00:49:48.920 communities
00:49:49.680 behind
00:49:50.160 what
00:49:51.600 is
00:49:51.800 democracy
00:49:52.400 you have
00:49:53.540 to be
00:49:53.760 10
00:49:54.020 times
00:49:54.360 better
00:49:54.600 than
00:49:54.740 anyone
00:49:54.940 else
00:49:55.220 to get
00:49:55.500 a
00:49:55.640 fair
00:49:55.820 shot
00:49:56.320 most
00:49:57.720 of
00:49:57.880 all
00:49:58.280 what
00:49:59.800 does
00:50:00.020 it
00:50:00.160 mean
00:50:00.560 as
00:50:01.620 we've
00:50:01.780 heard
00:50:01.980 before
00:50:02.520 to be
00:50:03.900 a
00:50:04.000 black
00:50:04.280 man
00:50:04.580 who
00:50:04.720 loves
00:50:04.960 his
00:50:05.140 country
00:50:05.560 even
00:50:06.940 if
00:50:07.100 it
00:50:07.200 doesn't
00:50:07.420 love
00:50:07.660 him
00:50:07.800 back
00:50:08.100 in
00:50:08.240 equal
00:50:08.480 measure
00:50:08.880 in
00:50:11.200 America
00:50:11.640 we're
00:50:11.900 all
00:50:12.120 created
00:50:12.460 equal
00:50:12.900 extremists
00:50:15.280 close
00:50:15.700 the doors
00:50:16.240 of
00:50:16.400 opportunity
00:50:17.000 strike
00:50:18.000 down
00:50:18.300 affirmative
00:50:18.700 action
00:50:19.220 attack
00:50:20.360 the
00:50:20.500 values
00:50:20.780 of
00:50:20.920 diversity
00:50:21.440 equality
00:50:22.000 and
00:50:22.160 inclusion
00:50:22.660 I
00:50:24.360 never
00:50:24.560 thought
00:50:24.800 when I
00:50:25.080 was
00:50:25.200 graduating
00:50:25.640 in 1968
00:50:26.460 as your
00:50:27.300 honoree
00:50:27.780 just was
00:50:28.400 we talked
00:50:29.380 about
00:50:29.680 I never
00:50:30.480 thought I'd
00:50:31.040 be in a
00:50:31.740 president
00:50:32.120 of time
00:50:32.620 when there's
00:50:33.260 a national
00:50:33.800 effort to
00:50:34.220 ban books
00:50:35.220 not to
00:50:36.800 write history
00:50:37.260 but to
00:50:37.600 erase history
00:50:38.480 they don't
00:50:40.760 see you in
00:50:41.360 the future
00:50:41.740 of America
00:50:42.260 but they're
00:50:43.520 wrong
00:50:44.020 to me
00:50:45.380 we make
00:50:46.960 history
00:50:47.400 not erase
00:50:48.640 it
00:50:48.860 we know
00:50:50.200 black history
00:50:51.040 is American
00:50:52.360 history
00:50:53.000 I
00:50:54.620 mean to
00:50:54.880 me
00:50:55.000 that is
00:50:55.280 one
00:50:55.440 of the
00:50:55.680 most
00:50:55.920 vile
00:50:56.740 things
00:50:57.220 you
00:50:57.400 could
00:50:57.560 ever
00:50:58.040 say
00:50:58.560 to a
00:50:58.940 young
00:50:59.120 person
00:50:59.340 when
00:50:59.520 you're
00:50:59.680 giving
00:50:59.840 a
00:51:00.040 commencement
00:51:00.460 speech
00:51:00.920 that's
00:51:01.180 supposed
00:51:01.340 to be
00:51:01.600 about
00:51:01.880 wow
00:51:02.440 you just
00:51:02.860 learned
00:51:03.200 something
00:51:03.520 go take
00:51:04.200 on the
00:51:04.580 world
00:51:04.880 and he
00:51:05.580 said
00:51:05.760 the world
00:51:06.140 the world
00:51:06.700 hates you
00:51:07.200 basically
00:51:07.520 well I
00:51:08.460 mean the
00:51:09.020 stories that
00:51:09.740 I just
00:51:10.120 told you
00:51:10.760 about
00:51:11.120 those two
00:51:12.000 guys
00:51:12.300 the first
00:51:13.220 guy
00:51:13.500 the one
00:51:13.840 who got
00:51:14.120 his PhD
00:51:14.480 at 91
00:51:14.960 I've been
00:51:15.940 telling that
00:51:16.540 story to
00:51:17.220 my students
00:51:17.780 so a
00:51:18.340 student knocks
00:51:18.860 on my
00:51:19.140 door during
00:51:19.540 office hours
00:51:20.180 I'm 27
00:51:21.400 years old
00:51:22.040 I'd really
00:51:22.780 like to
00:51:23.160 pursue an
00:51:23.680 MBA
00:51:24.060 or I'd
00:51:24.580 like to
00:51:24.860 do
00:51:24.960 but I'm
00:51:25.540 27
00:51:26.160 I'm too
00:51:26.680 old
00:51:26.940 and so I
00:51:27.340 usually say
00:51:27.960 sit down
00:51:28.740 I have a
00:51:29.540 story to
00:51:29.900 tell you
00:51:30.200 then I
00:51:30.820 tell them
00:51:31.220 that story
00:51:31.680 you see
00:51:32.280 the fire
00:51:32.900 in their
00:51:33.240 eyes
00:51:33.560 right
00:51:33.820 I'm
00:51:34.380 motivating
00:51:34.960 them
00:51:35.200 look at
00:51:35.540 this guy
00:51:35.940 he's 91
00:51:37.520 his PhD
00:51:38.500 you're 27
00:51:39.660 you're thinking
00:51:40.200 you're too
00:51:40.520 old
00:51:40.680 so you
00:51:41.500 inspire
00:51:42.080 people
00:51:42.600 you elevate
00:51:43.200 them
00:51:43.620 Biden
00:51:44.100 does the
00:51:44.540 exact
00:51:44.780 opposite
00:51:45.140 you're
00:51:45.480 going
00:51:45.680 nowhere
00:51:46.020 the
00:51:46.260 system
00:51:46.560 is
00:51:46.740 against
00:51:47.020 you
00:51:47.360 it's
00:51:48.500 actually
00:51:48.780 nauseating
00:51:49.640 in a way
00:51:50.060 I just
00:51:50.600 compared
00:51:51.020 that to
00:51:51.420 any
00:51:51.740 commencement
00:51:52.380 you know
00:51:52.680 we played
00:51:53.120 a Jerry
00:51:53.900 Seinfeld
00:51:54.280 commencement
00:51:54.680 speech
00:51:55.160 the other
00:51:55.460 day
00:51:55.740 at Duke
00:51:56.380 where he
00:51:56.780 talked
00:51:57.080 about
00:51:57.280 yeah
00:51:57.480 you've
00:51:57.720 got
00:51:57.880 privilege
00:51:58.220 enjoy
00:51:58.640 it
00:51:58.840 go get
00:51:59.220 out
00:51:59.420 there
00:51:59.580 anyone
00:51:59.820 would
00:52:00.040 kill
00:52:00.200 to
00:52:00.320 be
00:52:00.460 at
00:52:00.600 Duke
00:52:00.780 but
00:52:01.260 just
00:52:01.460 that
00:52:01.780 that
00:52:02.160 divide
00:52:02.700 in
00:52:07.520 and
00:52:07.700 the
00:52:07.840 system
00:52:08.100 is
00:52:08.220 horrible
00:52:08.500 versus
00:52:08.900 go
00:52:09.320 do
00:52:09.640 something
00:52:10.020 that
00:52:10.660 seems
00:52:11.320 like
00:52:11.620 it's
00:52:11.800 indicative
00:52:12.100 of
00:52:12.420 what's
00:52:12.640 happening
00:52:12.960 across
00:52:13.340 the
00:52:13.500 board
00:52:13.700 here
00:52:13.940 yeah
00:52:14.360 absolutely
00:52:14.880 and
00:52:15.160 maybe
00:52:16.200 that's
00:52:16.460 a good
00:52:16.680 segue
00:52:16.940 so I
00:52:17.740 in the
00:52:18.500 happiness
00:52:18.840 book
00:52:19.080 I talk
00:52:19.580 about
00:52:19.980 the
00:52:20.500 research
00:52:21.080 linking
00:52:21.620 political
00:52:22.300 orientation
00:52:22.980 to
00:52:23.340 happiness
00:52:23.820 so to
00:52:24.280 the
00:52:24.420 point
00:52:24.640 of
00:52:24.780 Biden
00:52:25.280 and
00:52:25.500 the
00:52:25.620 progressives
00:52:26.100 and
00:52:26.620 the
00:52:26.760 research
00:52:27.040 is
00:52:27.220 unequivocal
00:52:27.900 many
00:52:28.700 many
00:52:28.960 researchers
00:52:29.420 have
00:52:29.660 found
00:52:29.900 that
00:52:30.140 conservatives
00:52:30.900 score
00:52:31.820 higher
00:52:32.400 on
00:52:32.720 happiness
00:52:33.240 than
00:52:33.840 liberals
00:52:34.300 slash
00:52:34.820 progressive
00:52:35.380 slash
00:52:37.520 offer a
00:52:37.960 speculative
00:52:38.320 explanation
00:52:39.240 but I
00:52:39.680 think
00:52:40.080 it's
00:52:40.420 you
00:52:40.820 tell me
00:52:41.120 what you
00:52:41.320 think
00:52:41.440 of it
00:52:41.680 so I
00:52:43.000 argue
00:52:43.300 that
00:52:43.500 when the
00:52:43.780 conservative
00:52:44.160 wakes up
00:52:44.680 in the
00:52:44.880 morning
00:52:45.120 by
00:52:45.380 the
00:52:46.060 sheer
00:52:46.300 nature
00:52:46.600 of
00:52:46.940 the
00:52:47.340 term
00:52:47.620 conservative
00:52:48.180 there's
00:52:48.960 something
00:52:49.240 to
00:52:49.520 conserve
00:52:50.000 so I
00:52:50.820 wake
00:52:51.120 up
00:52:51.340 yes
00:52:51.600 society
00:52:52.700 may
00:52:52.920 not
00:52:53.060 be
00:52:53.220 perfect
00:52:53.540 but
00:52:53.740 there's
00:52:53.920 a lot
00:52:54.180 of
00:52:54.320 good
00:52:54.640 stuff
00:52:54.920 here
00:52:55.200 worthy
00:52:56.320 of
00:52:56.660 conserving
00:52:57.220 the
00:52:58.220 progressive
00:52:58.940 wakes
00:52:59.560 up
00:52:59.820 in the
00:53:00.180 morning
00:53:00.520 with
00:53:01.120 complete
00:53:01.620 existential
00:53:02.280 gloom
00:53:03.240 and
00:53:03.400 doom
00:53:03.620 we
00:53:04.920 live
00:53:05.120 in a
00:53:05.340 transphobic
00:53:06.040 misogynistic
00:53:07.060 land
00:53:07.460 acknowledgement
00:53:08.080 islamophobic
00:53:09.500 everything
00:53:09.900 is bad
00:53:10.400 we need
00:53:10.780 to
00:53:10.980 eradicate
00:53:11.760 everything
00:53:12.200 and just
00:53:13.080 around
00:53:13.480 if only
00:53:13.840 I had
00:53:14.260 enough
00:53:14.520 power
00:53:15.020 exactly
00:53:15.680 and around
00:53:16.460 the corner
00:53:16.920 is where
00:53:17.560 we're going
00:53:17.880 to find
00:53:18.240 unicornia
00:53:19.080 and therefore
00:53:19.900 that explains
00:53:21.100 why the
00:53:21.480 progressive
00:53:21.900 is doom
00:53:22.820 and gloom
00:53:23.320 and the
00:53:23.720 conservative
00:53:24.100 is not
00:53:24.500 well actually
00:53:25.000 not only
00:53:25.360 do I
00:53:25.580 agree
00:53:25.760 with that
00:53:26.120 I can
00:53:26.460 tell you
00:53:26.880 from my
00:53:27.460 life
00:53:27.700 when I
00:53:28.060 started
00:53:28.540 interviewing
00:53:29.100 conservatives
00:53:29.740 my main
00:53:30.680 thing
00:53:31.040 that I
00:53:31.280 was shocked
00:53:31.680 by was
00:53:32.060 not
00:53:32.300 the
00:53:32.660 political
00:53:33.060 part
00:53:33.400 it
00:53:33.500 wasn't
00:53:33.760 that
00:53:33.900 Ben
00:53:34.240 Shapiro
00:53:34.620 is pro
00:53:36.040 it wasn't
00:53:36.380 that Dennis
00:53:36.740 Prager
00:53:37.120 is for
00:53:38.520 states rights
00:53:39.280 or low
00:53:39.580 taxes
00:53:39.960 it was
00:53:41.320 that they
00:53:41.680 were nice
00:53:42.380 and happy
00:53:43.480 and were
00:53:44.140 like would
00:53:44.540 you like
00:53:44.880 to have
00:53:45.200 dinner
00:53:45.560 and break
00:53:46.180 bread
00:53:46.440 and discuss
00:53:46.940 this further
00:53:47.580 and let's
00:53:48.620 you know
00:53:49.000 be in each
00:53:49.460 other's
00:53:49.740 homes
00:53:49.980 that was
00:53:50.900 the part
00:53:51.320 or Glenn
00:53:51.720 Beck
00:53:52.020 I thought
00:53:52.320 he was
00:53:52.520 supposed
00:53:52.680 to be
00:53:52.840 this evil
00:53:53.220 Seattle
00:53:53.480 Larry Elder
00:53:53.920 all these
00:53:54.280 guys
00:53:54.440 no I love
00:53:55.920 all these
00:53:56.280 guys now
00:53:56.760 but I
00:53:57.480 think that
00:53:57.920 was the
00:53:58.260 most shocking
00:53:58.780 thing to
00:53:59.200 me and
00:53:59.440 having been
00:53:59.860 in progressive
00:54:00.380 circles
00:54:00.920 I mean quite
00:54:02.000 honestly
00:54:02.260 they weren't
00:54:02.800 that nice
00:54:03.260 and they
00:54:03.520 weren't that
00:54:04.000 generous of
00:54:04.660 spirit or
00:54:05.420 of heart
00:54:05.980 or anything
00:54:06.720 else so
00:54:07.220 no I am
00:54:08.640 not surprised
00:54:09.320 I suppose
00:54:09.740 at all
00:54:09.920 but where
00:54:10.420 does that
00:54:10.700 leave you
00:54:11.060 then as
00:54:11.640 someone that
00:54:12.660 I think
00:54:13.040 probably still
00:54:13.860 in your
00:54:14.200 true self
00:54:15.080 considers
00:54:15.460 yourself a
00:54:15.920 classical
00:54:16.240 liberal
00:54:16.560 I just
00:54:17.580 had Pete
00:54:17.960 Pagosi
00:54:18.260 and our
00:54:18.520 friend in
00:54:18.860 here
00:54:19.060 and I
00:54:19.600 asked him
00:54:19.820 the same
00:54:20.020 question
00:54:20.240 where does
00:54:20.720 that leave
00:54:21.080 you now
00:54:21.400 you find
00:54:21.800 yourself in
00:54:22.200 common cause
00:54:22.740 largely with
00:54:23.380 conservatives
00:54:23.860 I have to
00:54:25.380 vote Republican
00:54:25.960 at this point
00:54:26.500 not because
00:54:26.920 I'm a
00:54:27.120 traditional
00:54:27.440 Republican
00:54:28.100 or conservative
00:54:28.640 by any
00:54:29.100 measure but
00:54:29.560 it's just
00:54:29.960 pretty damn
00:54:30.680 obvious if I
00:54:31.660 want to save
00:54:32.140 Western society
00:54:33.060 to the extent
00:54:33.620 that your
00:54:34.280 vote matters
00:54:34.880 how do you
00:54:36.540 feel about that
00:54:37.220 and sort of
00:54:38.000 related also to
00:54:38.760 being a Canadian
00:54:39.440 where the
00:54:39.820 politics are a
00:54:40.580 little bit
00:54:40.800 so you're
00:54:41.300 exactly right
00:54:41.840 I would
00:54:42.160 consider myself
00:54:42.900 a classical
00:54:43.880 liberal but
00:54:44.500 often times
00:54:45.540 people have
00:54:45.960 thought that
00:54:46.460 I'm being
00:54:47.020 coy and
00:54:47.980 not advertising
00:54:49.420 and it's not
00:54:50.500 because I'm
00:54:50.980 trying to be
00:54:51.760 cryptic
00:54:53.500 meaning like
00:54:53.860 oh get there
00:54:54.620 exactly
00:54:55.000 it's because
00:54:57.020 I'm very much
00:54:57.760 of an
00:54:58.220 issues guy
00:54:59.480 so if you
00:55:00.780 ask me about
00:55:01.300 immigration
00:55:01.820 or about
00:55:02.880 the death
00:55:03.600 penalty
00:55:04.000 or just
00:55:04.680 justice system
00:55:05.380 in general
00:55:05.660 then you'd
00:55:06.280 say oh my
00:55:06.720 god he's
00:55:07.180 super
00:55:07.500 conservative
00:55:08.020 right
00:55:08.720 yes
00:55:09.280 countries should
00:55:10.120 have very
00:55:11.160 tight borders
00:55:11.860 yes if
00:55:13.300 your DNA
00:55:13.940 is found
00:55:14.540 on the
00:55:14.860 bodies of
00:55:15.380 five
00:55:15.940 raped and
00:55:16.600 killed
00:55:16.840 children
00:55:17.200 I have
00:55:17.720 no
00:55:18.040 moral
00:55:18.700 problem
00:55:19.160 with
00:55:19.400 executing
00:55:19.900 you
00:55:20.140 oh that
00:55:20.620 makes me
00:55:20.940 a super
00:55:21.320 right-wing
00:55:21.720 conservative
00:55:22.140 on the
00:55:22.720 other hand
00:55:23.020 when it
00:55:23.260 comes to
00:55:23.780 social
00:55:24.320 issues
00:55:24.900 I don't
00:55:25.560 care who
00:55:26.060 you sleep
00:55:26.460 with
00:55:26.740 I don't
00:55:27.420 care about
00:55:27.820 your
00:55:27.960 transgender
00:55:28.440 stuff
00:55:29.020 dress
00:55:29.520 how you
00:55:29.900 want
00:55:30.100 then you
00:55:30.680 would think
00:55:31.040 I'm super
00:55:31.620 socially
00:55:32.540 liberal
00:55:33.000 right
00:55:33.360 and so
00:55:33.840 it's hard
00:55:34.360 which is really
00:55:34.560 just libertarian
00:55:35.400 from a
00:55:36.120 policy perspective
00:55:37.240 but yeah
00:55:37.600 people somehow
00:55:38.560 think that
00:55:38.960 that's left
00:55:39.520 yeah
00:55:39.840 so yeah
00:55:41.060 so I would
00:55:41.600 consider myself
00:55:42.320 if you have
00:55:42.960 to pigeonhole
00:55:43.900 me then
00:55:44.340 classical
00:55:44.980 liberal
00:55:45.320 but then in
00:55:45.880 the weird
00:55:46.220 sense is
00:55:46.820 so much of
00:55:47.760 what we're
00:55:48.240 seeing the
00:55:48.600 problem right
00:55:49.100 now the
00:55:49.500 failure of
00:55:50.540 the liberals
00:55:50.960 to defend
00:55:51.740 liberalism
00:55:52.340 yeah
00:55:52.820 but this
00:55:53.560 has been
00:55:53.800 my main
00:55:54.340 ethos
00:55:55.000 for the last
00:55:55.560 couple of years
00:55:56.100 by the way
00:55:57.360 to the point
00:55:58.200 that we're
00:55:58.400 talking about
00:55:58.740 labels
00:55:59.120 so I
00:56:00.080 my last
00:56:00.600 two books
00:56:01.020 were with
00:56:01.460 Regnery
00:56:02.460 Regnery
00:56:03.180 is historically
00:56:03.940 the most
00:56:04.580 famous
00:56:05.080 conservative
00:56:05.720 imprint
00:56:06.320 and that
00:56:07.520 even put
00:56:08.220 a greater
00:56:08.660 imprimatur
00:56:09.260 on me
00:56:09.860 as a
00:56:10.260 conservative
00:56:10.800 writer
00:56:11.340 but I
00:56:11.920 never
00:56:12.160 thought
00:56:12.640 myself
00:56:13.000 as a
00:56:13.280 I mean
00:56:13.760 defending
00:56:14.260 freedom
00:56:14.700 of speech
00:56:15.360 and the
00:56:16.000 scientific
00:56:16.420 method
00:56:17.060 should not
00:56:17.940 be
00:56:18.200 conservative
00:56:18.700 values
00:56:19.260 but apparently
00:56:19.800 and even
00:56:20.200 I often
00:56:20.660 see my
00:56:21.020 book is
00:56:21.380 number
00:56:21.640 one
00:56:21.980 in
00:56:22.260 conservatism
00:56:23.260 why
00:56:24.500 why isn't
00:56:25.440 it just
00:56:25.900 in
00:56:26.380 rationality
00:56:27.560 so yeah
00:56:28.140 it's
00:56:28.360 well I guess
00:56:29.200 you gotta
00:56:29.460 give the devil
00:56:30.000 his due
00:56:30.340 but progressives
00:56:31.080 took over
00:56:31.520 the word
00:56:31.840 liberal
00:56:32.140 right
00:56:32.540 yeah exactly
00:56:33.120 they took
00:56:33.780 over the word
00:56:34.220 liberal
00:56:34.480 what else
00:56:35.200 is on your
00:56:35.600 mind
00:56:35.880 before we
00:56:36.460 wrap up
00:56:37.040 and go
00:56:37.280 have
00:56:37.460 well we'll
00:56:37.880 play some
00:56:38.200 basketball
00:56:38.540 and then
00:56:38.800 we'll have
00:56:39.060 some drinks
00:56:39.480 and eat
00:56:39.740 dinner
00:56:39.900 what else
00:56:40.540 is on your
00:56:40.860 mind
00:56:41.040 these days
00:56:41.540 and what
00:56:41.880 else
00:56:42.040 is on my
00:56:42.420 mind
00:56:42.780 the desire
00:56:44.240 to
00:56:44.720 and you
00:56:45.440 and I
00:56:45.660 have talked
00:56:46.000 about this
00:56:46.340 publicly
00:56:47.020 and privately
00:56:47.680 to get
00:56:48.620 out of
00:56:49.100 Canada
00:56:49.520 people think
00:56:51.300 that somehow
00:56:51.860 I'm being
00:56:52.720 an ingrate
00:56:53.620 and that
00:56:54.160 Canada accepted
00:56:55.320 me as if
00:56:56.240 I owe them
00:56:56.880 my entire
00:56:57.740 life and
00:56:58.260 future generations
00:56:59.260 to stay in
00:56:59.800 Canada
00:57:00.040 Canada's
00:57:00.820 become really
00:57:01.440 an insufferable
00:57:03.640 place to be
00:57:04.240 I hate the
00:57:04.900 taxes
00:57:05.240 so that's
00:57:06.200 always on my
00:57:06.800 mind
00:57:07.060 and it
00:57:07.400 especially
00:57:07.900 became
00:57:08.820 even more
00:57:09.480 so on my
00:57:09.960 mind
00:57:10.260 with the
00:57:10.960 book royalties
00:57:11.600 realities
00:57:12.180 where they
00:57:12.960 steal everything
00:57:13.680 from me
00:57:14.060 but that
00:57:14.320 always existed
00:57:15.020 in Canada
00:57:15.480 so that's
00:57:15.900 not really
00:57:16.420 but here's
00:57:17.060 the difference
00:57:17.440 when the
00:57:20.140 taxes
00:57:20.700 are built
00:57:21.840 into your
00:57:22.740 salary as a
00:57:23.600 professor
00:57:24.040 it's an
00:57:25.060 invisible
00:57:25.600 rape
00:57:26.220 right
00:57:26.740 because I
00:57:27.500 get used
00:57:28.000 to I'm
00:57:28.500 going to
00:57:28.840 make $100
00:57:29.400 you're going
00:57:30.240 to steal
00:57:30.780 $50
00:57:31.340 from me
00:57:31.980 and so I
00:57:32.620 just get
00:57:33.000 $50
00:57:33.340 the difference
00:57:34.600 with book
00:57:35.160 royalties
00:57:35.540 and so on
00:57:36.120 is that
00:57:36.640 they come
00:57:37.440 to my
00:57:38.120 bank account
00:57:38.980 untaxed
00:57:40.400 for a while
00:57:41.080 because they're
00:57:41.980 not taxed
00:57:43.340 by Regnery
00:57:44.600 because I'm a
00:57:45.340 Canadian citizen
00:57:46.140 and resident
00:57:46.620 so for a while
00:57:47.860 I live under
00:57:48.640 the illusion
00:57:49.280 that the
00:57:50.140 neuronal
00:57:50.640 firings of
00:57:51.420 my brains
00:57:52.100 belong to me
00:57:53.180 but then
00:57:53.960 Justin Trudeau
00:57:54.820 with a really
00:57:55.800 nice cigar
00:57:56.420 and a
00:57:56.700 cognac
00:57:57.100 he goes
00:57:57.720 hey Jew
00:57:58.320 58%
00:57:59.720 of your
00:58:00.560 life
00:58:00.980 and your
00:58:01.440 thoughts
00:58:01.880 and your
00:58:02.320 ideas
00:58:02.800 and your
00:58:03.300 jokes
00:58:03.680 and your
00:58:04.080 words
00:58:04.500 belong to
00:58:05.540 me
00:58:05.820 and so
00:58:06.680 there is a
00:58:07.360 line inside
00:58:08.200 my bank
00:58:08.820 statement
00:58:09.300 that's
00:58:10.340 it's written
00:58:10.820 the Canadian
00:58:11.300 government
00:58:11.780 the Quebec
00:58:12.320 government
00:58:12.760 there's this
00:58:13.340 big number
00:58:14.020 then I press
00:58:15.220 send
00:58:15.940 and that
00:58:16.700 big number
00:58:17.320 disappears
00:58:18.260 it's gone
00:58:19.320 so if
00:58:20.480 you get
00:58:20.940 worried
00:58:21.520 about
00:58:22.080 a Nigerian
00:58:23.200 prince
00:58:23.640 scam
00:58:24.160 taking
00:58:24.780 $1500
00:58:25.600 from you
00:58:26.440 what should
00:58:27.580 I feel
00:58:28.360 when my
00:58:28.880 entire
00:58:29.520 life's
00:58:30.140 work
00:58:30.360 is taken
00:58:30.940 sure
00:58:31.340 but that's
00:58:31.840 not what's
00:58:32.260 driving you
00:58:32.880 to leave
00:58:33.640 yeah
00:58:33.980 it's that
00:58:34.960 it's the
00:58:35.440 weather
00:58:35.780 it's the
00:58:36.240 wokeness
00:58:36.860 it's
00:58:37.240 it's
00:58:37.560 feeling
00:58:38.080 like a
00:58:39.140 fish
00:58:39.360 out of
00:58:39.800 water
00:58:40.080 I don't
00:58:40.700 belong
00:58:41.120 there
00:58:41.340 right
00:58:41.480 when
00:58:41.640 when I'm
00:58:42.420 in Texas
00:58:42.920 or when I
00:58:43.780 come to
00:58:44.140 Florida
00:58:44.440 or just
00:58:44.940 in general
00:58:45.460 in the
00:58:45.660 United
00:58:45.860 States
00:58:46.240 I feel
00:58:47.140 I've always
00:58:47.860 felt that
00:58:48.240 by the way
00:58:48.500 I mean I
00:58:48.740 studied in
00:58:49.280 the US
00:58:49.620 right
00:58:49.860 I was a
00:58:50.240 professor
00:58:50.580 at many
00:58:51.080 American
00:58:51.860 universities
00:58:52.300 in my
00:58:53.140 disposition
00:58:53.920 in my
00:58:54.540 values
00:58:55.320 I'm much
00:58:56.260 more
00:58:56.660 American
00:58:57.380 than I am
00:58:58.480 Canadian
00:58:59.120 Canadian
00:58:59.500 is a nice
00:59:00.240 place where
00:59:00.840 we all
00:59:01.180 get along
00:59:01.800 where we
00:59:02.440 all hug
00:59:03.120 where we
00:59:03.600 should all
00:59:04.080 be equal
00:59:04.680 it's a
00:59:05.360 it's
00:59:05.820 soft
00:59:06.460 socialism
00:59:07.100 right
00:59:07.500 but does
00:59:07.860 it feel
00:59:08.340 that
00:59:08.560 so I
00:59:09.200 agree with
00:59:09.600 that from
00:59:09.900 the temperament
00:59:10.420 of all
00:59:10.740 of the
00:59:10.960 Canadians
00:59:11.320 I've
00:59:11.600 met
00:59:11.760 and when
00:59:11.980 I toured
00:59:12.380 with
00:59:12.540 Jordan
00:59:12.780 when I've
00:59:13.120 done other
00:59:13.440 things up
00:59:13.820 in Canada
00:59:14.180 I've always
00:59:14.860 loved the
00:59:15.440 crowds all
00:59:16.080 over Canada
00:59:16.800 but that
00:59:17.880 seems to have
00:59:18.420 been used
00:59:18.760 again
00:59:18.920 their own
00:59:19.240 temperament
00:59:19.680 has now
00:59:20.000 been used
00:59:20.400 against that
00:59:20.880 by the
00:59:21.240 government
00:59:21.580 and so do
00:59:22.960 you sense
00:59:23.360 that Canada
00:59:24.160 has a real
00:59:24.820 reckoning
00:59:25.240 coming in
00:59:25.720 with this
00:59:26.300 that I
00:59:27.140 think there's
00:59:27.420 a lot of
00:59:27.700 really angry
00:59:28.220 people in
00:59:28.700 Canada right
00:59:29.180 now I
00:59:29.380 mean it
00:59:29.880 angry in
00:59:30.300 the right
00:59:30.740 sense of
00:59:31.180 why you
00:59:31.460 should be
00:59:31.740 angry
00:59:32.060 I mean in
00:59:32.580 part because
00:59:33.120 of the
00:59:33.380 COVID
00:59:33.700 draconian
00:59:34.260 stuff in
00:59:34.840 part because
00:59:35.400 of the
00:59:35.800 unchecked
00:59:36.380 immigration
00:59:36.820 so to
00:59:37.340 go back
00:59:37.640 to our
00:59:37.900 earlier
00:59:38.180 point
00:59:38.500 imagine
00:59:39.240 you wake
00:59:39.940 up and
00:59:41.200 within a
00:59:41.700 very short
00:59:42.420 time period
00:59:43.560 you no
00:59:44.400 longer
00:59:44.900 recognize
00:59:45.780 the city
00:59:46.360 that you
00:59:46.700 live in
00:59:47.140 right you
00:59:47.860 see what I
00:59:48.100 mean imagine
00:59:48.800 if I'm a
00:59:49.500 Hasidic Jew
00:59:50.220 and I live
00:59:50.980 in an
00:59:51.400 environment
00:59:51.900 with all
00:59:52.640 other people
00:59:53.200 who look
00:59:53.580 like me
00:59:53.940 and dress
00:59:54.240 like me
00:59:54.620 that's
00:59:55.360 sort of
00:59:55.660 my reality
00:59:56.280 and suddenly
00:59:57.060 I bring
00:59:57.600 people that
00:59:58.140 are completely
00:59:58.700 different from
00:59:59.280 me that
00:59:59.560 don't dress
01:00:00.060 like me
01:00:00.380 that don't
01:00:00.700 that's a
01:00:01.500 shock
01:00:01.800 right because
01:00:02.300 it's very
01:00:03.180 difficult to
01:00:04.260 assimilate so
01:00:05.160 many people
01:00:05.520 and it's
01:00:05.960 it's happened
01:00:06.660 at the speed
01:00:07.560 of light
01:00:08.020 so that
01:00:09.240 again people
01:00:09.820 are going
01:00:10.060 to say
01:00:10.260 oh he's
01:00:10.620 Islamophobic
01:00:11.360 no I'm
01:00:12.500 for liberty
01:00:13.120 and freedom
01:00:13.680 right
01:00:13.980 25 years
01:00:16.240 ago I
01:00:17.340 had seen
01:00:18.020 a single
01:00:18.980 woman
01:00:19.620 veiled
01:00:20.980 in Montreal
01:00:21.940 one time
01:00:23.080 okay from
01:00:23.900 1975 when
01:00:25.320 we emigrated
01:00:26.100 to Canada
01:00:26.600 till about
01:00:27.420 2000 I
01:00:28.200 saw one
01:00:28.620 woman
01:00:28.900 today if
01:00:30.260 I walk
01:00:30.740 out of my
01:00:31.300 house out
01:00:32.180 of 50
01:00:33.100 women that
01:00:33.600 I see
01:00:34.020 25 are
01:00:35.100 veiled
01:00:35.400 so it's
01:00:36.280 it's a
01:00:36.760 speed at
01:00:37.480 which that
01:00:38.140 it's impossible
01:00:38.960 to feel
01:00:40.360 am I
01:00:41.300 living in
01:00:41.780 Canada or
01:00:42.400 am I
01:00:42.600 living in
01:00:43.120 Syria
01:00:43.480 right well
01:00:44.020 also the
01:00:44.400 other reason
01:00:44.800 that it's
01:00:45.060 first off
01:00:45.400 Islamophobic
01:00:46.060 is obviously
01:00:46.700 just a
01:00:47.500 canard and
01:00:48.140 irrational fear
01:00:49.100 I mean you
01:00:49.680 should fear
01:00:50.180 things that
01:00:50.720 could take
01:00:51.100 away your
01:00:51.440 liberties
01:00:51.760 that's one
01:00:52.260 part but
01:00:53.060 the other
01:00:53.280 part is you
01:00:53.720 have to
01:00:53.940 wonder about
01:00:54.620 well are
01:00:55.920 these going
01:00:56.360 to be the
01:00:56.880 people that
01:00:57.260 will defend
01:00:57.700 the liberal
01:00:58.240 democracy
01:00:58.880 that Canada
01:00:59.480 has long
01:01:00.440 been or
01:01:00.900 not I
01:01:01.420 mean that's
01:01:01.740 just a
01:01:02.020 reality that
01:01:02.760 people seem
01:01:03.620 afraid to
01:01:04.140 address
01:01:04.540 yeah and
01:01:05.060 so that's
01:01:05.660 so in
01:01:06.760 addition to
01:01:07.240 the taxes
01:01:07.740 in addition
01:01:08.220 to the
01:01:08.540 bad weather
01:01:09.040 in addition
01:01:09.500 to the
01:01:09.860 socialist
01:01:10.180 system
01:01:10.620 the fact
01:01:13.020 that my
01:01:13.760 wife and
01:01:14.200 I no
01:01:14.600 longer feel
01:01:15.400 as though
01:01:15.940 our children's
01:01:16.940 future is
01:01:18.000 really there
01:01:18.640 that's what I've
01:01:19.200 been driving
01:01:19.580 for as a
01:01:20.680 father of
01:01:21.540 young kids
01:01:21.980 that's what
01:01:22.340 I've been
01:01:22.540 driving for
01:01:22.900 because I
01:01:23.220 think about
01:01:23.600 it all the
01:01:23.920 time that I
01:01:24.400 happen to
01:01:24.960 right now
01:01:25.660 live in
01:01:26.720 the I
01:01:27.180 think the
01:01:27.600 freest place
01:01:28.660 in the
01:01:28.920 world in
01:01:29.400 essence
01:01:29.780 you know in
01:01:30.560 Florida in a
01:01:31.700 flourishing place
01:01:32.380 that's doing
01:01:32.800 it right
01:01:33.180 despite all
01:01:33.700 the problems
01:01:34.060 for America
01:01:34.580 I've actually
01:01:35.120 I find it
01:01:36.620 very charming
01:01:37.580 maybe charming
01:01:38.480 is not the
01:01:38.780 right word
01:01:39.040 but I see
01:01:39.860 the happiness
01:01:41.240 that you express
01:01:42.220 often publicly
01:01:43.100 at having moved
01:01:44.000 from California
01:01:44.800 to Florida
01:01:46.420 and in a sense
01:01:47.720 frankly I'm
01:01:48.340 envious of that
01:01:49.080 because you
01:01:50.040 really are the
01:01:51.500 master of your
01:01:52.300 destiny in that
01:01:53.060 when place A
01:01:54.660 was no longer
01:01:55.420 tenable for you
01:01:56.160 you moved to
01:01:56.700 place B
01:01:57.180 the unique
01:01:58.560 factor of being
01:01:59.600 a tenured
01:02:00.100 professor makes
01:02:01.340 it so much
01:02:01.960 more difficult
01:02:02.540 to be a
01:02:03.080 master of my
01:02:03.740 destiny
01:02:04.140 and that's
01:02:05.020 been very
01:02:05.420 difficult for
01:02:05.940 me to handle
01:02:06.360 because I
01:02:06.840 am an
01:02:07.820 agent of
01:02:09.080 change
01:02:09.400 I do things
01:02:10.460 and yet here
01:02:11.260 I'm in this
01:02:11.840 golden cage
01:02:12.700 because of
01:02:13.600 tenure
01:02:13.860 I was about
01:02:14.360 to say you
01:02:14.800 know that all
01:02:15.200 the comments
01:02:15.660 are going to
01:02:15.980 say again
01:02:16.360 rip off your
01:02:17.060 golden handcuffs
01:02:18.200 and just do it
01:02:19.420 first of all
01:02:20.980 it takes a long
01:02:21.740 time to build
01:02:22.260 an academic
01:02:22.680 career
01:02:23.100 you have all
01:02:24.120 these
01:02:24.340 infrastructural
01:02:25.260 constraints
01:02:25.720 and we have
01:02:26.340 young children
01:02:26.900 if our children
01:02:27.800 were let's say
01:02:28.880 ten years older
01:02:29.680 than they are
01:02:30.200 now
01:02:30.520 then my
01:02:31.240 ability to
01:02:32.000 take risks
01:02:32.860 would be much
01:02:33.840 greater
01:02:34.220 but now when I'm
01:02:35.120 guaranteed a job
01:02:36.620 when I'm getting
01:02:37.220 it's hard to be
01:02:38.840 a risk taker
01:02:39.880 not to get too
01:02:40.520 morbid on you
01:02:41.040 but is the irony
01:02:41.780 of what you're
01:02:42.200 saying for
01:02:42.740 someone that's
01:02:43.300 as learned
01:02:43.700 and historically
01:02:45.300 knowledgeable as
01:02:46.300 you are that
01:02:46.860 you know you
01:02:47.280 also don't want
01:02:47.900 to be Anne
01:02:48.760 Frank's neighbor
01:02:49.360 who famously
01:02:50.100 they thought
01:02:50.660 ah we'll be
01:02:51.160 okay we'll be
01:02:51.800 okay
01:02:52.060 I agree
01:02:52.720 and so we
01:02:53.840 are getting
01:02:54.980 closer and
01:02:55.700 closer to
01:02:56.280 leaving
01:02:56.580 so inshallah
01:02:57.540 I will be
01:02:58.480 your neighbor
01:02:59.100 soon
01:02:59.460 was that your
01:03:00.000 way of telling
01:03:00.440 me you want
01:03:00.960 to just drive
01:03:01.620 around the
01:03:01.900 neighborhood for
01:03:02.340 a little bit
01:03:02.680 there's a lot
01:03:03.040 of houses
01:03:03.420 let me see
01:03:04.560 what we can
01:03:04.860 do for you
01:03:05.340 although
01:03:06.160 I'm only
01:03:07.460 willing to
01:03:07.920 come here
01:03:08.320 if you can
01:03:08.740 resolve the
01:03:09.340 mosquito problem
01:03:10.100 because my
01:03:10.560 biggest fear
01:03:11.140 in life
01:03:11.560 are mosquitoes
01:03:12.240 no but that's
01:03:13.060 that's literally
01:03:13.540 true
01:03:13.860 I turn into
01:03:15.100 a crying
01:03:15.840 five-year-old
01:03:16.600 if there's a
01:03:17.120 mosquito in the
01:03:17.660 house
01:03:17.900 it hasn't
01:03:18.820 been that
01:03:19.460 terrible
01:03:19.900 this season
01:03:20.820 but I can't
01:03:22.200 sit here
01:03:22.800 and honestly
01:03:23.340 tell my
01:03:23.920 don't Jews
01:03:24.540 control everything
01:03:25.220 not the
01:03:26.180 mosquitoes
01:03:26.500 I can't
01:03:28.460 I can't
01:03:29.120 truly tell
01:03:29.920 you that
01:03:30.680 it's mosquito
01:03:31.360 free here
01:03:32.000 but I would
01:03:32.560 say it's a
01:03:33.100 small price
01:03:34.400 to pay
01:03:35.120 for freedom
01:03:36.640 and the rest
01:03:37.100 of it
01:03:37.420 more importantly
01:03:38.260 than anything
01:03:38.660 we've discussed
01:03:39.340 here we're
01:03:39.700 going to shoot
01:03:40.020 hoops for a few
01:03:40.620 minutes
01:03:40.920 yes
01:03:41.320 and you've
01:03:42.260 been practicing
01:03:42.760 I understand
01:03:43.460 I am
01:03:44.000 trying to
01:03:44.540 what should I
01:03:45.500 expect from you
01:03:46.460 we're playing
01:03:47.380 horse
01:03:47.760 what are we
01:03:48.120 doing
01:03:48.300 horse seems
01:03:49.680 horse seems
01:03:50.220 appropriate
01:03:50.620 we're going to
01:03:50.940 am I going
01:03:51.920 to be like
01:03:52.380 this
01:03:52.520 you're going
01:03:52.720 to be just
01:03:53.200 like I mean
01:03:53.780 what do you
01:03:54.180 want me to
01:03:54.440 I'm wearing
01:03:54.880 wool and I'm
01:03:56.100 wearing sexy
01:03:56.960 black dress
01:03:58.020 shoes
01:03:58.360 this Canadian
01:03:59.660 sucker you see
01:04:00.400 what we did
01:04:00.880 beautiful
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