The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - My Recent Chat with Tommy Robinson - Part II (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_695)

00:00:00.080 Hi guys, today I'm doing a very rare thing, which is a sad truth show in person.

00:00:07.340 I've got Tommy Robinson with me from Britain, the British Honey Badger.

00:00:11.660 How you doing, Tommy?

00:00:12.500 I'm a British cat.

00:00:13.320 So good to see you.

00:00:15.180 Tommy, for those of you who don't know, has more courage than a random sample of 10,000

00:00:21.140 men in the West that you could pick up.

00:00:22.720 That's true.

00:00:23.440 And probably more testosterone than 10,000 men.

00:00:25.860 And we know that to be true because we've done measures of testosterone in men and it

00:00:30.740 has gone precipitously down.

00:00:32.440 He's the only guy who's keeping us alive, guys.

00:00:35.620 All right, Tommy, I saw you, or not, I saw you remotely.

00:00:40.300 We did a show eight years ago.

00:00:42.380 You were as handsome, but I was much fatter.

00:00:46.640 I looked at it this morning.

00:00:47.760 Yeah, that's right.

00:00:48.400 I looked at it this morning.

00:00:48.780 You sent me a screenshot of that where you said men do age like fine wine.

00:00:54.700 They age like wine.

00:00:56.680 All right.

00:00:57.040 Let's talk.

00:00:57.720 We could talk about many serious things, but none as serious as soccer or as we probably

00:01:02.660 should call it, football.

00:01:03.660 Football.

00:01:04.100 And you're English, so you support the English team.

00:01:07.560 Apparently, I heard, cover your ears if you want to hear, England is losing to Denmark.

00:01:13.040 No, I just checked.

00:01:14.060 Literally, as we just sat down, I just checked.

00:01:15.820 It's 1-0.

00:01:16.520 1-0.

00:01:17.160 Okay.

00:01:17.420 I thought it said 2-1.

00:01:18.080 That was the last game.

00:01:18.700 Very good.

00:01:19.500 So, are you thinking that this is the year that they're going to finally win it?

00:01:23.600 I go and watch England, yeah.

00:01:24.740 I've always went and watched them.

00:01:27.080 And then I fell out of love a bit with them when the Black Lives Matter thing happened 1.00

00:01:31.040 and they got on their knees.

00:01:32.980 It really, do you know, I just, and the politicisation, the rainbow bands, I just think, keep politics

00:01:38.340 out of football.

00:01:38.760 There's a reason people go to football, it's to get away from all that.

00:01:41.160 Keep it, it's just a sport.

00:01:42.500 So, it frustrated me.

00:01:43.380 I fell out of love and I found it hard to get behind them again.

00:01:46.420 I just, the more wokely stuff I saw being introduced into our international football game.

00:01:50.040 You know our football kit this season?

00:01:52.720 Do you know the flag on the back?

00:01:53.820 Yeah.

00:01:54.020 It's the, it's the transgender colours. 1.00

00:01:57.020 Oh, is that right?

00:01:57.740 Oh, like the super colour one?

00:01:59.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:59.860 No, the English flag.

00:02:00.880 The English flag is the transgender. 1.00

00:02:02.040 The strongest flag, they've added the transgender logo onto our flag.

00:02:05.440 Nice.

00:02:06.240 Onto our flag.

00:02:06.960 So, whilst we're, and the reason I said, because I'd asked you to do this podcast, and I looked

00:02:11.780 at the timing and I thought, it's the same time as the England match.

00:02:15.100 I thought, Gadsad doesn't take the knee, so I'm going to go sit down with Gadsad.

00:02:18.800 I am honoured that I, that I came ahead of the English National League.

00:02:22.860 Ahead of the English National League.

00:02:23.380 Now, different players that are good, but probably now the one that most people are talking

00:02:28.420 about is Bellingham.

00:02:29.400 Do you think he's as big as they became?

00:02:31.860 I think he's great.

00:02:32.560 Again, I just, do you know, with my football, I love Luton Town, which is my club.

00:02:37.080 Yeah.

00:02:37.300 Yeah, my apologies for the relegation.

00:02:39.500 Yeah, but the fact we got there anyway was unbelievable.

00:02:41.560 True.

00:02:41.760 And do you know, the fact we got there anyway, do you know, I've been on a four-year ban

00:02:45.180 from going to football, yeah?

00:02:46.440 I was banned.

00:02:47.140 Is that true?

00:02:47.600 From attending football, yeah?

00:02:48.780 I was banned from attending.

00:02:49.240 As what?

00:02:50.080 Because you're a hooligan?

00:02:51.220 They'd tried multiple, so originally, I was going to France for the Euros, and I was

00:02:56.080 travelling to France for the Euros, and I thought, do you know what, I think they were

00:02:59.620 trying to stop me.

00:03:00.740 So, I was in a motorhome, so I got under the bed, yeah?

00:03:03.520 And as we went through Calais, I didn't show my passport, and I got to France, and then

00:03:07.820 my wife rang me up and said, police are all over the house, they've just raided

00:03:10.060 the house looking for you.

00:03:11.260 I said, what are they looking for me for?

00:03:12.500 They said, to stop you going to France, yeah?

00:03:14.740 So, I made a video saying, I'm in France, and I added Bedfordshire, please, I'm dancing.

00:03:19.960 But then when I come back from the football, I've been there three weeks, when I come back,

00:03:23.740 I was back, the next morning, bang, the police come round, and they took me straight to court,

00:03:27.860 and their reason was that my presence in France, which has a high Muslim population, could

00:03:33.040 provoke a reaction.

00:03:34.180 Oh, my presence.

00:03:34.960 And then they gave me maps.

00:03:37.180 So, when I went to court, I fought it, and the map, where they wanted to ban me from every

00:03:41.080 Saturday, included the entire Muslim community of Luton, yeah?

00:03:44.460 So, it was a control order that they were using football legislation, because down to

00:03:48.820 football legislation, they brought in laws to deal with hooliganism, that if they believe

00:03:52.560 you're a risk, they can then put you on these bans, but they only have a time period to do

00:03:56.560 it.

00:03:56.720 So, whenever there's a football tournament, like there is now, so if I went to the airport

00:03:59.880 now, to fly to the country where the football is, they can invoke this legislation that gives

00:04:04.800 them the ability to give you perimeter bans of towns and cities, yeah, to deal with football

00:04:09.200 violence.

00:04:10.660 Who's controlling the Tommy Robinson problem?

00:04:14.480 So, it's the government, so this is the home office, so it's not the police, it's the

00:04:18.320 home office.

00:04:18.820 So, basically, when they tried to give me this ban, they got the head of the football policing

00:04:23.280 unit come to court, and so did Bedfordshire Police.

00:04:25.660 So, Bedfordshire Police Officer, who's my local police force, who know me all my life,

00:04:30.500 yeah?

00:04:30.780 I've always been on watch Leuven since I was 16, yeah?

00:04:33.240 So, the local policing unit know who I am, yeah?

00:04:35.900 So, they were summoned to court and asked on the dock, they had the football policing unit

00:04:41.120 first, which is the home office, the government, and he said, my barrister just said to him,

00:04:45.720 who's bringing this banning order against our client?

00:04:49.160 And he said, Bedfordshire Police.

00:04:51.460 And she said, okay, so it's not you, it's not the home office, it's Bedfordshire Police.

00:04:54.520 He said, yeah, it's Bedfordshire Police.

00:04:56.080 Then when they got the Bedfordshire Police officer up straight after him, he'd gone out,

00:04:59.360 got the officer up and said, why are you bringing this case against our client?

00:05:04.980 And he said, we're not.

00:05:06.700 And then he said, you're not, so who's bringing this case?

00:05:09.200 He said, this has been forced on us.

00:05:11.700 Who's forced it on you?

00:05:12.740 She said, the football policing officer.

00:05:14.140 So, the officer had just been on the dock before, and then she said, okay, I'm going to

00:05:17.740 ask you one more question.

00:05:19.240 Is our client a risk?

00:05:21.220 Do you see our client as a risk of attending football?

00:05:23.900 He said, no, not at all.

00:05:25.540 So, she kicked the case out.

00:05:26.880 And when she kicked it out, she said that this case was vague.

00:05:30.120 The evidence was vague, caging, dishonest.

00:05:32.700 But the map was what it was about.

00:05:34.200 It was about giving me a perimeter ban.

00:05:35.440 Wow.

00:05:35.860 So they could control me like they've just done for six months in London to ban me from

00:05:39.160 certain areas.

00:05:40.280 But as I said, yeah, I love football, but I fell out of love with football.

00:05:43.660 But I still love Luton, so I'm Luton mad.

00:05:46.360 And we went up and we went down.

00:05:47.700 You know, December 18th, 2022, do you remember what day that was in soccer history?

00:05:53.140 December 18th?

00:05:54.680 2022.

00:05:55.740 World Cup final.

00:05:57.400 So, I'm a gigantic, I mean, I'm only one of about eight billion people, who's a gigantic

00:06:02.440 Messi fan.

00:06:03.620 And I'm old enough to have seen, supposedly, all of the greatest players of all time, most

00:06:09.100 of them.

00:06:09.800 Were you a Messi or Ronaldo man then?

00:06:11.380 Ronaldo can't tie the shoes of Messi.

00:06:16.200 You don't think...

00:06:16.800 Not even remotely.

00:06:18.440 And if you think otherwise, then you're not really a soccer expert.

00:06:24.580 Ronaldo is a guy who has incredible athletic ability, incredible discipline, who's trained

00:06:30.660 to be the beast that he is.

00:06:33.080 He's a great goal scorer.

00:06:35.400 Messi is artistry.

00:06:37.420 Messi is...

00:06:38.060 Messi is...

00:06:38.700 It's divine, the way he moves.

00:06:40.100 I mean, just ask any soccer players, they're almost all will fall on the end to Messi.

00:06:45.880 Anyways, when the World Cup final came about, one of the things that's beautiful about soccer

00:06:51.360 or any sport, but certainly soccer, is that the fans become as vested in the outcome as

00:06:58.160 the players themselves.

00:06:59.020 As a matter of fact, there are studies that show that the testosterone levels of fans is the same as the players.

00:07:05.520 If the guys that win, if that's my team, my testosterone goes up.

00:07:08.700 If they lose, my testosterone goes down.

00:07:10.580 Now, I've been a soccer fan my whole life and so on, but the World Cup final was almost so unbearable to watch that I remember my

00:07:18.420 son said, I'm just, I'm going to stop watching, I'm going to have a heart attack.

00:07:21.480 And he was like 11 years old then.

00:07:23.660 And the reason why it was so important, I actually discussed this, I appeared after the World Cup final

00:07:27.940 on Joe Rogan's show and I was explaining all this.

00:07:30.060 I didn't ask you about Joe Rogan.

00:07:31.260 What's that?

00:07:31.940 I didn't ask you about Joe Rogan.

00:07:33.020 Oh, yeah, that's okay.

00:07:33.640 So, I said to him, you know, the reason why we were so vested or at least why I was so vested

00:07:39.940 is because it would have been a cosmic injustice if he didn't finish with winning.

00:07:46.680 And I was so vested in him winning that once he won it, I truly felt, I don't care what,

00:07:52.840 sometimes I'm pissed off, my daughter will come up to me and say, remember, Messi won the World Cup.

00:07:58.420 I'm like, okay, life is good again.

00:08:00.240 Because he represents that cosmic justice, like it was meant to be for him to win.

00:08:05.340 All right, but let's now go back to maybe more serious issues.

00:08:09.880 You and I chatted eight years ago.

00:08:12.100 Is that the first time we chatted?

00:08:13.340 Yeah, yeah, that was 2016, March 2016, I checked.

00:08:17.180 And, I mean, we've communicated since, but we haven't had a show together other than the

00:08:22.460 one we did earlier on your podcast.

00:08:24.120 What has changed both personally for Tommy Robinson and in the ecosystem that you fight in?

00:08:31.300 What are some big changes in the past eight years for you?

00:08:34.320 What's changed?

00:08:35.200 Well, I think a lot of the public have awoken to the things we were talking about.

00:08:40.180 So, whereas people didn't take us seriously or didn't want to listen to what we were saying,

00:08:43.780 now they do.

00:08:45.160 Now they know.

00:08:46.240 We've been proven right in everything we were talking about.

00:08:48.580 All the warnings we were given, all the problems we were talking about,

00:08:52.000 and why have we been proven right in it?

00:08:53.920 As I said, I'm from Luton Town.

00:08:55.180 I foresaw all the problems because my town had gone from when I was born in 1982,

00:08:59.660 one mosque, and now I was 45.

00:09:01.880 So, wow.

00:09:02.620 Yeah.

00:09:02.920 It's over a 50% of the Muslim population, Pakistani.

00:09:05.420 So, all the things I saw early, as in the local council's impeachment of them,

00:09:10.900 the two-tier policing.

00:09:11.960 Two-tier policing has become part of British vocabulary now, yeah?

00:09:15.440 Yeah.

00:09:15.720 Everyone's talking about it.

00:09:16.780 But I went back, we just had our latest documentary.

00:09:19.360 Explain what two-tier policing is.

00:09:20.440 Two-tier policing is the way the police fail to deal with one community at all, really.

00:09:24.040 They bend their knees to them, or they just don't deal with them,

00:09:26.120 or they let them get away with criminality, and they treat that community with kid gloves,

00:09:30.020 and then they treat everyone else with iron fists.

00:09:32.200 So, rather than deal with the problem, they'll deal with the people who talk about the problem.

00:09:34.980 Right.

00:09:35.360 Through cowardice, through fear, through political correctness,

00:09:38.700 through a multitude of all these things coming together.

00:09:41.360 But I went back through my speeches and leaflets and things I'd spoke about.

00:09:44.380 The first time I was talking about it was 2004.

00:09:46.580 And that's because I've seen it.

00:09:48.660 I saw the police not deal with the heroin gangs, the grooming gangs, the rape gangs.

00:09:52.840 I saw them just let them get away with it and just facilitate their criminality.

00:09:56.500 But then now, what's happened over the last two years, especially since October 7th,

00:10:01.140 with the mass demonstrations of pro-Hamas on the streets, calling for the gas of the Jews,

00:10:04.980 literally standing there calling for jihad.

00:10:06.600 Literally calling out for jihad, and their words are, the Muslim armies. 1.00

00:10:10.020 And then we've got the Mexican police come out and say jihad has multiple different meanings.

00:10:13.900 When they're talking about Muslim armies, they're not talking about an inner struggle.

00:10:17.300 I need to lose weight, and it's an inner struggle.

00:10:20.440 That's what jihad is.

00:10:21.280 And then they're holding up the ISIS flag, and they're telling us, it's not the ISIS flag.

00:10:26.200 That's right.

00:10:26.720 It's not the flag of war, which we know it is.

00:10:28.680 So they're literally gaslighting us.

00:10:30.220 But the whole country then, Swella Braverman come out and said it,

00:10:33.280 who at the time was our home secretary.

00:10:34.780 She was forced out of the Conservative Party, set out of her position for it.

00:10:38.020 So it's become part of the vocabulary that the British public have witnessed.

00:10:40.900 All of those things I saw, they've now seen with their own eyes.

00:10:45.020 Certainly in the last 12 months, anyway.

00:10:47.440 So that's changed for me.

00:10:49.080 I'm well-received.

00:10:50.500 I used to get a lot of punches on the nose.

00:10:52.720 Not so much now.

00:10:53.900 More hugs, kisses.

00:10:55.820 So it's better.

00:10:56.940 But I think that's what's changed.

00:10:59.180 And what's changed for me, probably, personally, is probably 2016.

00:11:04.540 Where was I, 2016?

00:11:06.080 At times, I've been in low places over my activism.

00:11:08.820 Bad places, worrying places, dark places, thinking what am I going to do?

00:11:13.120 Probably trying to, as a man, you like to think you can deal with everything.

00:11:17.340 But my problems, a lot of them probably come from fear.

00:11:20.180 That fear, at times, drove me into partying.

00:11:22.920 And that's how, and blacking things out, probably.

00:11:25.740 I don't now.

00:11:26.500 So I deal with it a lot better.

00:11:27.840 So how long has it been since you drank?

00:11:29.860 I had a, it's probably been in the last year once.

00:11:33.520 In the last year.

00:11:34.440 But when I used to drink, I didn't drink to enjoy myself.

00:11:37.200 So I probably drank.

00:11:39.400 To escape?

00:11:39.980 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:41.320 So probably to escape reality.

00:11:42.760 Because what is reality?

00:11:43.680 For me, reality is not great.

00:11:45.200 Reality at the minute is, I go back to, on the 29th of July, I'm in court, probably going back to jail.

00:11:48.960 So reality has always been what's coming next.

00:11:52.080 And essentially, my fear has never been Muslims attacking me.

00:11:58.380 I don't fear that in the same sense.

00:12:00.860 My fear is always, what are the state going to do next?

00:12:03.640 And where are they going to leave me or leave my family?

00:12:05.480 Well, that was the title of your, I think, first book, Enemy of the State.

00:12:08.400 Enemy of the State.

00:12:08.720 Enemy of the State. 0.99

00:12:09.800 Because I knew Muslims would want to kill me for talking about certain issues, highlighting certain issues. 1.00

00:12:16.080 I knew the dangers of that. 0.94

00:12:17.600 But I didn't realize the level the state would go to.

00:12:20.980 Do you almost hate the Westerners who grant cover more than the Islamists who might cover? 0.52

00:12:27.760 I have some respect.

00:12:28.760 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:29.620 I have some respect with some of the Islamists. 0.98

00:12:31.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:32.260 Because they say what they mean, yeah?

00:12:34.400 I think, well, they're not messing about.

00:12:35.480 But then I look at the people who facilitate them and think, well, it's you lot.

00:12:39.540 You're the letting them do this.

00:12:41.180 Right.

00:12:41.460 You're bending every time. 1.00

00:12:43.440 And then the church, even, I, fuck, the church. 0.99

00:12:47.220 I went for a, the, the, the, Tom, Tom Robinson. 0.99

00:12:50.820 His name was Tom Robinson.

00:12:51.900 Bishop.

00:12:52.720 The Bishop of Pontifact, yeah?

00:12:54.140 So, one of the highest ranking in the, in the Church of England called us for a meeting.

00:12:58.620 Said, we need you to come on a meeting, yeah?

00:13:00.540 You're a representative of opposition to Islamic communities. 0.98

00:13:03.260 We're going to bring you for a meeting with the Grand Mufti, who preaches at the Golden

00:13:06.740 Dome Mosque in, in Jerusalem, yeah?

00:13:10.140 Yeah.

00:13:10.320 So, we went to this meeting.

00:13:11.960 And I said, okay.

00:13:12.840 And they, they sat, he was in a church building.

00:13:14.520 It was a secret meeting.

00:13:15.480 We weren't at, so it was a secret meeting.

00:13:17.180 So, we've gone, all these Muslim leaders come in.

00:13:19.640 And they said, right, we want to fresh out.

00:13:21.560 Tell us what's wrong.

00:13:22.340 So, I said, don't need to ask me twice.

00:13:25.140 I'm going to tell you what's wrong.

00:13:26.380 I said, you've taken the beast in our country, with girls, with women, with the, and I went 1.00

00:13:30.560 through and just listed out, listed out.

00:13:32.260 And then, I said to the church, what are you doing?

00:13:34.340 What are you doing?

00:13:35.040 Yeah?

00:13:35.240 What are you doing about anything?

00:13:36.380 And we're supposed to be your lost flock, yeah?

00:13:38.440 But you're always on the side against us.

00:13:39.960 You come out condemning us.

00:13:41.900 We're talking about the problems we're dealing with, and you're condemning us.

00:13:44.300 And then he said, well, at Christmas, this is a church leader.

00:13:47.900 At Christmas, what we're trying to do is we're trying to bring communities together.

00:13:50.360 So, we had a Christmas do together with the Muslims.

00:13:54.740 I said, all right?

00:13:55.540 No wine.

00:13:56.460 That's what I said.

00:13:57.200 Did you have wine?

00:13:58.320 Did you have wine?

00:13:59.620 And he went, no.

00:14:01.020 I said, so you had a Sharia-compliant Christmas meal? 0.98

00:14:03.960 Right.

00:14:04.380 I said, you bend every time.

00:14:06.340 They don't bend.

00:14:07.400 They will not budge on their views of anything, yeah?

00:14:10.100 But you're bending on every one of our principles.

00:14:12.300 And the Muslim fellow, afterwards, he said, do you know what, Tommy?

00:14:15.820 I said, what?

00:14:16.500 And he said, do you know how refreshing it's been just to have someone tell us straight?

00:14:21.580 He said, because we keep going to these diversity meetings, and we're having all these photos taken.

00:14:24.720 And I said, yeah, you're pretending there's no problems.

00:14:26.480 You're all standing and thinking a picture of a rabbi, a picture of a priest, and a picture of an imam is standing together.

00:14:32.640 But they're the wrong people you're trying to bring together.

00:14:35.040 Totally wrong.

00:14:35.660 So I think that, again, the debate has shifted, the over-and-window shifted, in what's acceptable to say in discussions.

00:14:43.300 A lot of the people who used to condemn me on the TV, or commentators who would condemn me, are now saying exactly the same as me.

00:14:51.160 I had a journalist ring me up who spent a year with me, and he rang me up last year.

00:14:56.160 And he said, have you seen what's happened?

00:14:57.680 I said, well, he goes, all the people who were against you, and they were far more extreme than you, in their commentary.

00:15:04.180 Because I said, I don't ever see my views have ever been an extreme, but they tried, they had to make us toxic.

00:15:11.300 They had to make us figures of hay to stop the debate. 0.53

00:15:15.280 Because the debate, or the issues I raise about grooming, about rape, about all these gangs, about any of these problems, whether it be jihad, terrorism,

00:15:23.960 they're all problems that come about because of the government's failing policies.

00:15:28.840 And they don't want their policies addressed or looked at.

00:15:30.520 What do you think, I mean, we've talked about this earlier, and you and I have weighed in on this,

00:15:35.280 but I think it's worthwhile for my audience to hear about it.

00:15:38.060 Why do you think the Western leaders take the positions that they do when it comes to Islam?

00:15:43.280 Well, I think they take, well, cowardice, weakness.

00:15:47.160 It's just the path of least resistance.

00:15:48.980 If I just ignore it, hopefully it somehow goes away.

00:15:51.500 It's the level, how powerful is political greatness?

00:15:55.600 How powerful is it? 0.97

00:15:56.600 And this is hard to get someone's head around it, that we allowed, in our country, a generation of English girls to be raped. 0.92

00:16:04.800 In the thousands.

00:16:06.120 What's the final, do we have a sense of the number?

00:16:08.220 So, Rotherham, 1,400 children, over a 16-year period, were raped.

00:16:13.100 Rotherham has a 3.7% Muslim population, so that's Rotherham.

00:16:17.020 Telford, I made a five-part series on the gang rapes in Telford.

00:16:21.560 Telford, the police identified 1,000 victims.

00:16:24.320 Telford has 1.7% Muslim population.

00:16:26.740 They identified 1,000 girls, five are dead.

00:16:28.740 Five of those girls are dead. 0.98

00:16:29.940 The police investigation identified 200 men.

00:16:34.420 I spent 12 to 18 months in that town getting to know the survivors of these crimes.

00:16:39.620 And we built a database, like a massive wall, the whole size of this, where we've done an investigation into the men.

00:16:45.240 So I sat down with the girls.

00:16:46.440 And people, you might read statistics about grooming.

00:16:49.840 And people, I watch as politicians talk about these girls, like they're statistics. 1.00

00:16:53.260 It's like, they're not statistics, they're our daughters. 0.93

00:16:55.520 They're a man's child that's been raped and tortured. 0.52

00:16:58.760 And as we went through, I'd sit down with a victim, and I'd sit with her three times for four hours, five hours.

00:17:04.680 And then we'd play it all back, and we literally built a database.

00:17:07.500 And every time the men were named by more than three of the girls.

00:17:10.040 So in the end, on our spreadsheet database, we had 254 names.

00:17:14.060 I knew every address, every business, and every local Muslim man in that town by the end of the investigation.

00:17:18.860 I knew every link to them.

00:17:20.360 And they are a mafia.

00:17:21.360 Every one of them's related.

00:17:22.620 Every one of them's linked.

00:17:23.420 Some of them are police officers.

00:17:24.420 Some of them are CPS solicitors.

00:17:26.440 They're all intertwined, yeah?

00:17:27.760 So the police investigation identified 200.

00:17:30.080 Our investigation identified 254.

00:17:32.940 And the independent inquiry identified over 300.

00:17:35.920 So in that town, there's 3,000 Muslims. 0.99

00:17:39.380 Get rid of the women. 1.00

00:17:40.480 Get rid of the under-16s. 1.00

00:17:41.500 Get rid of those 70s.

00:17:42.620 There's 1,000 men.

00:17:43.820 So out of 1,000 Muslim men in one small town in England, there's 1,000 victims and five are dead.

00:17:48.680 And the police have identified 20% of the men involved in that rape.

00:17:53.580 Up to 20 to 30%.

00:17:55.060 We're not talking about a handful of men here.

00:17:56.800 20 to 30%.

00:17:57.760 The police investigation prosecuted 11.

00:18:00.380 So they left 189.

00:18:02.800 They didn't prosecute 189.

00:18:04.280 Wow.

00:18:04.420 In fact, we ended up in our investigation, which the media never commented on, we ended up finding corrupt police officers who were working for the gangs to receive money.

00:18:12.100 We've got eyewitnesses seeing them take money.

00:18:13.940 So we've done a five-part series where each episode is about telling the story of another girl.

00:18:21.260 It's fascinating.

00:18:22.320 Where can people see this?

00:18:23.440 We get them on Rumble under Tommy Robinson official called The Brake of Britain.

00:18:26.760 And when I say this, I haven't, when I went into telling these stories, I don't think I hadn't prepared myself for the damage to girls.

00:18:36.860 I went in as an investigative journalist to tell these stories and then got to know the families and victims and then never thought these girls were putting their faces up on camera. 1.00

00:18:45.980 One girl, one story.

00:18:47.780 I went online and I saw, as we were doing this investigation, a girl had gone on Facebook and said, one of the grooming gang members was getting out of jail for the rapes in the town, Telford.

00:18:58.800 And she said, how has no one killed them yet?

00:19:00.700 Where are the English men? 0.80

00:19:02.200 She said, do you know what?

00:19:03.280 I'm going to end this.

00:19:04.240 This was the comment she was paid.

00:19:05.420 So I prayed to the private investigator and said, find her.

00:19:08.580 We found, we tracked her down to a hostel in London.

00:19:11.560 So I knocked on the door of the hostel.

00:19:13.120 And I always, I record everything in these circumstances.

00:19:15.500 I don't want anyone saying I've said anything I haven't.

00:19:17.280 So even if I don't use the footage, I'll record it.

00:19:20.540 So I knocked on the door and some black lad answered and said, what are you doing here?

00:19:24.520 I said, I'm here looking for, name the girl. 0.79

00:19:27.420 He said, all right, two minutes.

00:19:28.860 She's come out. 1.00

00:19:29.880 What the fuck are you doing here? 1.00

00:19:31.300 I said, can I have an hour of your time? 1.00

00:19:33.600 Let me talk to you for an hour.

00:19:35.140 And then she didn't like me.

00:19:36.500 She was a lit, her parents were here.

00:19:38.460 She knew of you?

00:19:39.340 She knew of me, yeah, of course.

00:19:40.720 She knew of me.

00:19:41.400 But she, so she got in the car and we were probably in the car for two, three hours.

00:19:45.340 And I went through all the stuff of her, about her life.

00:19:48.140 And I said, look, I saw the comment you made about killing people, yeah?

00:19:52.120 I said, I'm just here, look, I'm going to take these gangs down, yeah?

00:19:56.360 These men, I watch as these girls are suffering 10 years, 20 years later, as they're suicidals, 1.00

00:20:01.700 they're hooked on drugs.

00:20:02.780 Do you know the gang members?

00:20:03.440 They're all driving Ferraris, sports cars, living in big houses, profitable businesses,

00:20:08.400 yeah?

00:20:08.740 They've destroyed these girls and they've profited all the way up to the top. 0.95

00:20:11.360 They're like a mafia in criminality and everything.

00:20:13.660 They're untouchable.

00:20:14.780 They view themselves as untouchable.

00:20:16.880 So our purpose of the films was only once we have three girls that don't know each other, 0.98

00:20:21.740 named the same man, with the same accusations.

00:20:24.820 The purpose of the documentary is to make the man famous.

00:20:27.300 We went into their businesses.

00:20:28.380 I walked into their businesses in the middle of businesses.

00:20:30.080 Wow.

00:20:30.320 And we found men that have murdered young girls running businesses.

00:20:35.560 No one even knows.

00:20:36.120 When I walked in the restaurant, I said, how many people know he killed a 12-year-old girl?

00:20:38.920 How many of these customers are in here?

00:20:40.140 And they were all just like, I said, what?

00:20:41.640 And then I said, I put the accusations to them.

00:20:43.240 But with this girl, this girl who I met, I said, right, help me.

00:20:47.320 Right, help me bring them down.

00:20:49.120 Help me take these gangs down.

00:20:50.580 And she took my number.

00:20:51.520 And then about a week later, we were in a house in the north of England and we've got all

00:20:55.000 the images.

00:20:56.100 We've done an amazing investigation to these groups.

00:20:58.760 We put trackers on their cars.

00:21:00.400 Cameras on their houses.

00:21:01.660 So we had evidence.

00:21:02.520 We followed them everywhere.

00:21:04.200 We had surveillance vans.

00:21:05.460 You can see it on the documentary.

00:21:06.500 So we're zooming in on them.

00:21:08.180 It was the best work I've ever done.

00:21:09.660 But then also, they blew my car up.

00:21:12.180 They petrol bombed my car.

00:21:13.140 They went to my mother's house.

00:21:14.560 The gangs did.

00:21:15.740 They attacked.

00:21:17.100 You see it on the documentaries.

00:21:18.200 They blew everything up.

00:21:19.380 They blew houses up across Telford.

00:21:21.340 And the police are saying these bombings are not connected.

00:21:23.480 They were attacking any survivor.

00:21:24.940 Because they didn't know who was talking to me.

00:21:26.640 But they knew I put a trailer out with all their images on the wall saying, we're coming

00:21:29.640 for you.

00:21:29.900 Right.

00:21:30.080 And they're thinking, who's talking to them? 0.93

00:21:32.100 So they just started attacking any of the girls that they'd raped and their houses. 0.64

00:21:36.020 But this girl, I get a phone call.

00:21:38.000 And I get a message saying, Tommy, you've got 20 minutes.

00:21:41.660 Any questions you want to ask, you've got 20 minutes to ask.

00:21:43.320 And this is all in the documentary.

00:21:45.820 So I ring the girl.

00:21:46.600 I say, you're right.

00:21:47.540 What are you talking about?

00:21:48.320 And we're recording it.

00:21:49.520 And she says, I'm ending it.

00:21:52.240 I said, what do you mean you're ending it?

00:21:54.000 She said, I'm in Telford.

00:21:55.460 Now, London's a three-hour drive from Telford.

00:21:57.780 So I think, she's gone to killing. 1.00

00:22:00.100 I said, where are you in Telford?

00:22:01.740 She said, I'm parked outside his house.

00:22:04.260 And I'm like, no.

00:22:05.620 I said, in my own selfish thing, I'm thinking the last person she's going to ring before she 0.99

00:22:09.420 kills this Muslim is me. 0.93

00:22:11.420 And then I say, what are you doing? 0.97

00:22:13.320 And I said, look, how far are your mum and dad?

00:22:15.340 Where do your mum and dad live?

00:22:16.480 And then she just breaks down.

00:22:17.840 And she breaks down.

00:22:18.600 She said, I've been dead, Tommy, for 15 years. 0.99

00:22:20.980 Every time she gets a new sexual partner, she has flashbacks of all the men raping her. 0.99

00:22:24.260 She said, she can't get on with her life. 1.00

00:22:25.620 She said, rape is torture. 1.00

00:22:27.640 I've been tortured for eternity. 0.99

00:22:29.420 And then she's crying, screaming.

00:22:31.720 And then I'm like, don't.

00:22:33.440 And she goes, I'm not going to kill him. 0.54

00:22:34.700 I'm killing myself. 0.99

00:22:35.540 I'm ending it now. 0.99

00:22:36.640 I'm ending it now.

00:22:37.360 And the moment that changed her, I said, 0.99

00:22:39.820 the moment that changed the whole conversation, I said, I've just had a shit curry. 0.99

00:22:44.900 I don't know how I got on the conversation. 1.00

00:22:46.640 She said, what do you mean you've had a shit curry? 0.99

00:22:48.040 She said, did you make it or order it? 1.00

00:22:49.240 I said, I ordered it.

00:22:49.860 She said, you need to make it.

00:22:50.920 She said, you need to make it.

00:22:51.800 I said, please come up here and make me a curry.

00:22:54.720 Get away from that house.

00:22:56.240 Wherever you are, I'll send the car to pick you up.

00:22:58.300 And she comes.

00:22:58.960 And each one of these films tells a different girl's story.

00:23:03.180 But the gangs, when we went after the gangs, one of the main rapists is in the mosque preaching 1.00

00:23:07.800 against the grooming gangs.

00:23:09.720 They are all.

00:23:10.560 And then we've got a picture.

00:23:11.640 It's unbelievable.

00:23:12.920 We've got a picture outside the mosque.

00:23:14.940 You know, these diversity photos.

00:23:16.140 All the police officers.

00:23:18.200 So the police officer whose job it is, it's his job to tackle the grooming gangs, is stood

00:23:23.360 next to the main grooming gang leader.

00:23:26.300 And he probably knows that.

00:23:27.920 Well, they're intelligent.

00:23:28.720 100% knows what they're doing.

00:23:30.080 They're all in criminal gangs.

00:23:31.740 They're all working together.

00:23:33.080 So the police force is working.

00:23:34.960 And we've done a five-part series.

00:23:36.160 We've got one more episode to do.

00:23:39.360 But as I said, I wasn't ready.

00:23:41.680 I put a lot of hate and discussion in talking about gangs, about Islam.

00:23:46.140 I've never made it personal.

00:23:47.720 But this gang was called the Banalis.

00:23:50.360 That's their name.

00:23:51.700 Obviously, when I started coming for them, and it was a five-part series, so none of them

00:23:55.560 knew who was coming.

00:23:56.340 But you have the board game Guess Who in America.

00:23:58.440 I think so, yeah.

00:23:59.080 You know where you have to guess things about people and you have to silhouette the faces.

00:24:02.200 So we'd end episode two on a silhouette with like five or six of their faces.

00:24:06.460 And then it would just have question marks.

00:24:07.740 Tip, tock, tip, tock.

00:24:09.340 Who's next?

00:24:10.220 Yeah, right.

00:24:10.760 And it was great.

00:24:11.740 Because I was thinking, yeah, we're putting on these gangs.

00:24:13.880 Because they're not getting prosecuted.

00:24:15.280 And if you're not going to get prosecuted, we're going to make sure everyone knows who

00:24:17.980 you are.

00:24:18.320 You're going to become famous to the whole of Britain and famous to your town as child 0.99

00:24:21.900 rapists. 0.95

00:24:23.020 But we hired, it was great work.

00:24:24.680 As I said, it was, we hired a house.

00:24:27.420 One of the rapists, we rented that.

00:24:28.920 He was a gas engineer.

00:24:30.140 So we rented the house.

00:24:31.360 And then we got a girl to bring up and get him to come and fix the boiler. 0.98

00:24:33.680 And as he comes to fix the boiler, we come walking in.

00:24:36.860 I said, I don't know, mate.

00:24:37.820 You didn't expect to see us here, did you?

00:24:39.700 But it was great in the sense of showing the public and understanding that ten years

00:24:46.440 after these girls being raped, they're suicidal still.

00:24:48.520 Their lives are destroyed. 0.97

00:24:50.060 They're living every day with the pain and the men.

00:24:54.560 And this is just one town.

00:24:55.760 So people understand how big the problem is.

00:24:57.960 This is just one town.

00:24:58.940 And I've gotten to that from talking about political correctness.

00:25:01.300 The police force in Telford, the police force in Robben.

00:25:04.180 You know, in Robben, there was a, obviously, we spoke about this in 2009.

00:25:07.680 In 2014, a government report came out called the Lexus J report in Robben.

00:25:12.220 So it wasn't Tommy Robinson saying this.

00:25:14.000 It was a government official report. 0.99

00:25:16.200 Two girls, 13 years old, they're in a house being raped by lots of Muslim men. 0.99

00:25:20.040 The two dads get together. 0.98

00:25:20.920 They go around the house to get their doors back.

00:25:22.680 So they're kicking off at the house.

00:25:24.020 Please turn up with the dads.

00:25:25.360 Well, I think I've heard of that story.

00:25:27.080 They left the girls in the house. 0.92

00:25:27.920 There was another 12-year-old girl in a house, in a derelict house with five Muslim men abusing her. 0.67

00:25:34.420 The police come to the derelict house. 0.88

00:25:35.760 They nicked the girl. 0.98

00:25:36.900 They nicked her for being drunk and disordered me.

00:25:38.760 They let the men go.

00:25:39.900 Literally, these things sound unbelievable.

00:25:42.660 This isn't just in one town.

00:25:44.200 This has been in 65 cities in the UK where these gangs are in every city that has a Muslim community. 0.65

00:25:48.800 And I've said it.

00:25:49.860 I mean, we're in Canada.

00:25:50.920 If you've got large Muslim communities in Toronto, in the city here, these gangs are brilliant. 1.00

00:25:56.180 There's not one single city in the UK that they've not been operating in.

00:25:59.460 And it's the same MO and it's the same crimes.

00:26:01.860 And no one knew what was going on for 30 years.

00:26:03.340 We knew because we were living in the towns.

00:26:04.700 It happened to my cousin.

00:26:05.560 She was 14 years old.

00:26:06.780 Oh, my God.

00:26:07.200 So, we knew, but it was covered up and hid by the police and the government for 30 years.

00:26:13.620 So, the same way they're probably hiding it here.

00:26:14.980 Is it now open?

00:26:16.260 It's now open.

00:26:17.360 Originally, they called it grooming, which is another word for rape jihad.

00:26:21.060 They call it grooming.

00:26:22.480 They give it a pretty name.

00:26:23.780 And they've arrested handfuls of them in each town.

00:26:27.340 But it's in every town of the sea.

00:26:29.660 What do you, if someone were to come to you and say, but why are you putting a Islamic twist to this?

00:26:35.980 There are bad men everywhere. 0.93

00:26:38.420 And isn't this just a problem of sexual violence? 0.95

00:26:41.160 Why do you link it to Islam?

00:26:42.360 What would you say to that?

00:26:43.240 So, again, you weren't allowed to ask this question.

00:26:45.800 That's why they hated me.

00:26:47.180 Because I was looking at numbers.

00:26:48.860 90% of the convictions.

00:26:50.120 Muslim men make up 2.5% of the UK population.

00:26:52.760 2.5%.

00:26:53.460 They are responsible for 90% of the convictions in these gangs.

00:26:57.480 Why?

00:26:58.160 30% of the men convicted are called Mohammed.

00:27:00.220 Why?

00:27:00.900 Why aren't the Sikhs doing it? 0.98

00:27:02.320 Why aren't the Jews doing it? 1.00

00:27:03.180 And why aren't the Hindus doing it? 0.98

00:27:04.320 Why is it specifically Muslim men? 0.54

00:27:05.980 So, then I went through and I've done a presentation.

00:27:08.200 The sad state of affairs is that this work will come about when I was most censored.

00:27:12.480 So, this is the best work I've done over the most important issue ever.

00:27:15.860 Now, this is the darkest stain in British history.

00:27:19.320 The biggest stain on our history ever. 0.98

00:27:22.060 A generation of our daughters have been allowed to be raped. 0.99

00:27:23.840 And the government and police and security. 0.98

00:27:25.540 Every institution whose job it was to protect those girls failed them and let them be raped 0.99

00:27:28.760 because they were young white girls and the men were Muslim immigrants. 0.99

00:27:31.780 And they allowed it.

00:27:32.460 So, I looked at the cases and I went through the cases and took the testimonies of the victims

00:27:39.040 and what the men said in court.

00:27:41.980 So, in the Bristol case, it was Somalians in Bristol.

00:27:44.980 And looked at the demographics because it's not just...

00:27:47.240 People said, oh, it's a Pakistani cultural problem.

00:27:49.300 No.

00:27:49.880 There's Afghanis. 0.78

00:27:50.680 There's Iraqis.

00:27:51.600 Yeah.

00:27:52.160 There's Kurds.

00:27:53.300 There's Somalis.

00:27:54.640 Yeah.

00:27:54.980 Okay.

00:27:55.380 The majority are Pakistani because the majority of Muslims in the UK are Pakistani.

00:27:58.040 Yeah.

00:27:58.440 And in England, it's called grooming.

00:27:59.700 In India, it's called love jihad.

00:28:01.180 In Holland, it's called lover boys.

00:28:03.340 You know what I call it?

00:28:04.920 Undocumented lovemaking.

00:28:06.420 Undocumented.

00:28:06.780 It's just...

00:28:09.100 But the cases and the numbers speak for themselves.

00:28:11.780 And why do I say it's Islamic? 0.95

00:28:14.300 Because the Somalian in the Bristol case said it was his religious duty to do that.

00:28:18.740 Yeah, exactly. 0.98

00:28:19.100 They literally quote the Koran whilst raping the girls. 0.98

00:28:22.060 Yeah. 0.94

00:28:22.180 And, you know, you've all heard of hate crimes now, yeah?

00:28:25.840 None of these men have been charged under hate legislation.

00:28:28.260 These are the most...

00:28:28.980 These are the only real...

00:28:30.300 People are getting charged under hate legislation for saying something homophobic online or talking...

00:28:34.740 Saying a racial slur against a football law and they get their door kicked off for a comment on Facebook. 1.00

00:28:39.700 But these men are raping young white girls, calling them dirty white gula. 1.00

00:28:43.380 Yeah? 1.00

00:28:43.800 Dirty white slags in their language. 1.00

00:28:46.200 Every girl gives it as a testimony, as a witness to the police. 0.99

00:28:49.100 And none of them are prosecuted under hate legislation.

00:28:50.920 So the hate crime statistics, literally the hate legislation is brought in to literally protect minority groups. 0.95

00:28:56.760 And that's it from any sort of criticism.

00:28:59.240 Is there a statute of limitation in terms of when you can go after these guys?

00:29:03.600 Or do you think they'll ever go after all of them?

00:29:05.680 No, so a lot of these are historic cases.

00:29:07.560 So a lot of the girls are going forward and they're historic cases.

00:29:10.320 But that's only...

00:29:11.100 They only started prosecuting them after the formation of the English Fence League in 2009.

00:29:15.020 Right.

00:29:15.360 So if you look...

00:29:16.000 I've done a graph from a presentation because...

00:29:18.640 Have you heard of Andrew Norfolk?

00:29:19.540 He's a Times reporter and he's won all the awards for highlighting this issue.

00:29:24.620 Now he highlighted it in 2014.

00:29:27.020 In his own words, in an interview, he says he knew this was going on for years. 0.94

00:29:32.380 So he's a coward, yeah? 0.99

00:29:33.660 And he's a traitor to the victims. 1.00

00:29:35.840 He knew it was going on for years.

00:29:37.400 But then he saw the emergence of the far right, the English Defence League, which wasn't far right at all.

00:29:42.640 But he saw the emergence of angry English fathers and brothers who were taken to the streets desperate about what was happening to their daughters.

00:29:48.900 So then he knew he had to take it back.

00:29:51.200 And so he's taken some moral playground.

00:29:52.940 He's got to bring the debate back to the mainstream.

00:29:55.500 So then he wrote about it.

00:29:56.440 So we forced him to write back, which is great.

00:29:59.600 You can take the credit.

00:30:01.160 We forced him to report on it.

00:30:03.160 And since then, it's become public knowledge.

00:30:05.220 I remember sitting on TV shows in 2010 saying to Gerry Paxman, who's one of the most renowned BBC...

00:30:11.640 Sure.

00:30:12.300 None of the interviews have been able to work for them.

00:30:14.060 I sat there saying, I thought it was being raped in every town of the city.

00:30:16.080 These men are kidnapping our kids.

00:30:17.540 And he said, do you expect us to believe that they're being allowed to do this?

00:30:20.860 I was like, yeah, I do.

00:30:22.340 I recognize that smugness.

00:30:24.640 Yeah, he had a total smugness.

00:30:25.980 Well, they all did.

00:30:26.980 They all did.

00:30:27.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:28.180 They all did with any of the issues we were trying to raise.

00:30:29.920 But as I said, a lot of these issues that we raised that people didn't want to listen to or they didn't believe they've come into fruition and they're fact.

00:30:37.020 And now people see it.

00:30:38.000 So what, on July 29th, you might be sent to prison?

00:30:42.140 Tell us about that.

00:30:43.100 So there was a news story.

00:30:45.480 This is an insane story.

00:30:46.520 There was a news story.

00:30:48.400 And a young Syrian refugee at school, who was 15, a child.

00:30:52.620 Another white child holds him down and pours a bottle of water over his face.

00:30:56.780 The headline was, Syrian refugee attacked.

00:30:59.860 They were waterboarded in racial attack.

00:31:01.780 Waterboarded.

00:31:02.640 They said he was waterboarded.

00:31:03.960 That's the headline ever.

00:31:05.060 But this news story, I remember watching it develop.

00:31:07.240 And it wasn't a nice video. 0.99

00:31:09.000 When you watch the video, I thought, you little bastard, about the white English boy. 0.99

00:31:12.260 I thought, it's bang out of order holding him down and doing that. 0.99

00:31:14.080 But you give them no context to what's happened.

00:31:16.140 And the Syrian refugee has an army plaster at the same time. 0.98

00:31:18.920 He's broken up.

00:31:19.440 So then we were told that he's been a victim of racial bullying since he went to this school. 0.82

00:31:23.620 Everyone's a racist.

00:31:24.520 He's a victim. 0.98

00:31:25.560 This was on CNN News.

00:31:27.380 It was on ABC in America.

00:31:29.240 It was on Israeli news.

00:31:30.360 It went worldwide.

00:31:31.640 As it was blowing up, everyone who was anyone, from celebrities to boxers, Lennox Lewis, ex-world champions, Piers Morgan, Jeremy Vine, all the biggest commentators, were outraged and demanding action for the Syrian refugee.

00:31:44.580 And our Home Secretary, Sajid Javid, invited the Syrian refugee to Parliament.

00:31:50.960 Now, within 24 to 48 hours, £180,000 had been raised for the Syrian refugee.

00:31:55.600 In that same time, mothers from the school had contacted me, saying he beat my daughter up, sending me pictures of her daughter with a bite mark on the face.

00:32:02.180 Then another girl contacted, saying he beat me up for a hockey stick.

00:32:04.720 Then another girl contacted.

00:32:06.280 So I made a video saying, well, you're not really being given the full picture here.

00:32:10.420 Stop donating your money.

00:32:12.380 There's a lot more to this story.

00:32:14.200 He ain't innocent.

00:32:15.280 He attacked girls.

00:32:16.720 He got his comeuppance to school.

00:32:18.220 That's what's happened here.

00:32:19.980 Celebrity Muslim lawyers from the UK, ex-members, one of them, we show it in the documentary, one of them is an ex-member of a terrorist organization.

00:32:27.420 He's now a celebrity lawyer who represents every jihadi in the UK.

00:32:31.420 They started legal proceedings against me, saying that I defamed him.

00:32:34.700 So they started legal proceedings.

00:32:36.680 They took me to the high court.

00:32:37.420 And sorry, the benchmark of defamation is lesser in Britain than it is here, right?

00:32:41.940 So defamation, it has to be probable.

00:32:44.860 So what I said is, I said, I make the accusation that he threatened to stab someone, and I said he attacks girls.

00:32:50.640 They said that's defamation.

00:32:52.040 So I had to prove that.

00:32:53.360 So the fact that I was told it.

00:32:54.880 So the first hearing in court, I said, I'm a journalist.

00:32:57.680 I can show you that I was proved.

00:32:59.300 I got all the messages that mum sent me.

00:33:01.440 I'm a journalist.

00:33:01.980 I reported what I was told.

00:33:02.860 They didn't give me that recognition as a journalist, so I had to prove it as truth.

00:33:07.940 So I said, okay, I'll prove it as truth.

00:33:09.260 So then they set the court date for a trial.

00:33:11.300 Now, one thing I sat in as I watched it, I thought, how come those, I know what that boy was like, because I spoke to everyone in the school.

00:33:17.840 How come none of the school teachers have spoke up for the English boy?

00:33:20.900 Now, the English boy, so you know the story, when this blew up, I trampled up there to interview the English boy.

00:33:25.860 I walked into a hotel, and his mum was sat there with her two little, he had two mixed-race little sisters.

00:33:30.580 They were about nine, yeah?

00:33:32.180 And it was two weeks before Christmas, and the mum was crying her eyes out and said, I've spent a lot more Christmas money on the hotel, because Muslims come to the house to attack them, yeah? 1.00

00:33:39.560 There were threats to murder them, rape them, gangs were outside the house. 0.95

00:33:42.800 So I said, well, where are you going to go? 0.97

00:33:44.720 Like, she said, we've got nowhere to go, yeah?

00:33:46.700 This is four hours from where I live.

00:33:48.840 So I said, right, I'll come and pick you up tomorrow, yeah?

00:33:51.380 So I'll bring a van, come and stay with me, yeah?

00:33:53.880 Until we get this sorted.

00:33:55.200 So we drove up there, brought the two sisters down, brought the boy down, yeah?

00:33:58.820 He ended up with me for three years, the kid.

00:34:00.680 He was 15.

00:34:01.680 The boy was 15, yeah?

00:34:02.880 He had the world on his shoulders.

00:34:04.960 This was two weeks before Christmas.

00:34:06.020 On Christmas Eve, he barricaded himself in and tried to kill himself.

00:34:08.600 Wow. 0.91

00:34:09.340 But the whole country was told he was a racist, yeah?

00:34:12.360 So I wore a hidden camera, and I thought, I'm going to go up to the teacher's houses.

00:34:17.200 So I looked at the first teacher's house, who's an Asian teacher.

00:34:20.300 I said, and he goes, Tommy, I said, mate, you know, they're prosecuting me, yeah?

00:34:25.820 He goes, he goes, look, I'm sorry.

00:34:28.040 I said, what?

00:34:28.540 He goes, I took the money.

00:34:29.980 I said, what do you mean you took the money?

00:34:32.220 He said, they paid us.

00:34:33.560 I said, who paid you?

00:34:34.940 And this is all on camera.

00:34:36.480 Kirkley's Council.

00:34:38.260 So I looked up Kirkley's, on the documentary, we look up Kirkley's Council.

00:34:40.340 The head of Kirkley's Council is Shabir Pandor, yeah? 0.84

00:34:44.000 A Muslim.

00:34:44.840 His brother is an, and there were protests outside the school of this Syrian refugee by

00:34:49.620 large groups of Muslims led by Mufti Pandor, the leader of the council's brother, yeah?

00:34:54.840 He's the same one who organised the rally.

00:34:56.540 Do you remember the school teacher in Northern School who's done the cartoon of Muhammad?

00:35:00.380 Yes.

00:35:00.760 He's still in Hyde in Mount.

00:35:01.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:02.260 This Mufti Pandor organised all those protests, yeah? 0.98

00:35:04.500 So we started piecing it together, saying, so Shabir Pandor is his brother.

00:35:08.180 At this time, you spoke about the Huddersfield grooming gang.

00:35:10.220 This was in Huddersfield.

00:35:11.160 The biggest news story in the country was the Huddersfield grooming gang.

00:35:14.400 Overnight, it disappeared.

00:35:16.100 To be the biggest story in the country was about this poor Syrian refugee.

00:35:19.700 They flipped the narrative totally.

00:35:21.680 So the Asian teacher says, I took the money, Tommy, and I say, okay, what was Jamal like? 1.00

00:35:26.060 He said he was a horrible little bastard. 0.99

00:35:27.820 This is the Syrian refugee. 1.00

00:35:29.040 He come to isolation.

00:35:30.260 You know what job I do?

00:35:31.100 I said, what do you do?

00:35:31.740 He goes, I work in the isolation unit.

00:35:32.840 He come to attack a girl in there.

00:35:34.640 So it's all on camera.

00:35:35.880 I said, okay.

00:35:37.020 And then he goes, but I can't talk about it.

00:35:39.580 I said, how much did they pay you?

00:35:40.660 He said, £18,000.

00:35:42.660 He wanted anything to do with it.

00:35:44.400 So then I went to the headteacher's house.

00:35:45.980 I said, look, do you know why I'm here?

00:35:47.440 He said, Tommy, you're never going to get the truth out there.

00:35:50.680 I said, okay.

00:35:51.780 He goes, one, he said, no one's allowed to talk about it.

00:35:54.700 And they shut the school.

00:35:55.700 So the headteacher tells me what happened.

00:35:57.120 So when this blew up, he says, Dave, and he said, they'd spoke about this at the United Nations meeting.

00:36:02.360 At the UN meeting.

00:36:03.940 They come up.

00:36:04.740 So when this is blowing up, this is world news story.

00:36:07.600 They then think, okay, get rid of him.

00:36:10.440 Get rid of any opposition to it.

00:36:12.240 So they silence everyone.

00:36:14.060 They go up to the headteacher and they blackmail him with his pension.

00:36:17.360 And they sat him in the office and made him sign a non-scloser agreement. 0.56

00:36:20.540 At which point they escorted him off the school property.

00:36:23.000 He's part of his non-scloser agreement. 0.99

00:36:24.520 He's not allowed to have a conversation with any other teachers.

00:36:26.300 He said, Tommy, I haven't worked a day since.

00:36:29.280 I haven't worked a day since.

00:36:30.820 They closed the school.

00:36:32.020 He goes, I got into education to help poor children.

00:36:34.420 Look what they've done.

00:36:35.260 And then I said, he had a broken arm.

00:36:38.200 The whole country was told that he had a broken arm from a racist attack.

00:36:42.200 The headteacher said, do you know how he broke his arm?

00:36:44.380 And I did.

00:36:44.940 But I said, how did he break his arm?

00:36:46.500 He goes, he was attacking a boy four years younger than him.

00:36:49.600 That's how he broke his arm.

00:36:51.120 And then he said, Tommy, we, the governor, knows high-ranking journalists.

00:36:55.480 We went to journalists to tell them the truth.

00:36:57.780 They wouldn't print it.

00:36:59.140 They wouldn't print it.

00:37:00.120 Amazing.

00:37:00.580 So I've got seven teachers on covert recordings.

00:37:03.160 So this is the film that's coming out end of July?

00:37:06.740 This is a film that I made.

00:37:08.780 And then when I went to court, they took me to court.

00:37:10.880 They bankrupt me on this case for 1.6 million.

00:37:13.600 I went for no jury, a judge.

00:37:15.520 So when I went to court and they said I defamed him, I got the school records.

00:37:19.300 I got everything.

00:37:20.600 I said a friend stabbed someone.

00:37:21.960 In the school records, he gets caught with a knife and screwdriver at school.

00:37:24.880 And the words, he stabbed another pupil.

00:37:27.200 And the word stabbed is by the teacher.

00:37:29.340 So I think, well, I can't defamed him if he's running around stabbing people.

00:37:32.900 So I produced all this in court.

00:37:34.640 Seven teachers.

00:37:35.680 Five pupils come to court.

00:37:37.560 One of the pupils is a grade-A student.

00:37:40.500 In court, we read out her school record.

00:37:42.700 She's the only pupil in her year to have zero negatives.

00:37:46.060 She got 11 A grades, top grades.

00:37:48.400 And what are you doing now, darling?

00:37:50.460 Now that you've left school.

00:37:51.320 I'm studying the law.

00:37:52.760 So why are you here today as a witness?

00:37:54.620 Because the truth matters.

00:37:56.240 So what is the truth?

00:37:57.780 That boy there attacked me with a hockey stick.

00:37:59.840 I'm still suffering now from the damages from it.

00:38:01.980 Then another boy gets up and gets tested on me.

00:38:03.860 Who witnessed him do that?

00:38:04.940 But when the Syrian refugee, no one comes to court for the Syrian refugee, just him. 0.95

00:38:09.780 Five pupils come against him.

00:38:11.340 One he spat at and slapped her, a girl. 1.00

00:38:13.260 One he attacked with a hockey stick.

00:38:14.560 Another boy witnessed it. 0.97

00:38:15.400 Another boy pulled his mum with white slag and attacked him.

00:38:17.820 So these children come and testified.

00:38:19.860 When it got to Jamal, the Syrian boy giving evidence, the media were reporting how terrified

00:38:24.360 he was and how bad I was.

00:38:26.180 When it got to the witnesses getting up to give our thing, all the media walked out court.

00:38:30.120 And I said to the judge, hold on a minute, yeah?

00:38:32.520 So none of this is getting reported.

00:38:33.920 So all the witnesses are getting up and giving their evidence.

00:38:36.060 Then the judge, so I produced all this evidence thinking you've got no case, yeah?

00:38:39.860 And the lengths they went to were manipulation.

00:38:43.460 The video that went viral online actually happened six weeks before.

00:38:47.540 The solicitor's firm put in a freedom of information request on the Syrian's family to make sure it was clean.

00:38:53.360 The results come back on the 25th.

00:38:55.860 On the 26th, this is world news.

00:38:57.920 They literally planned it.

00:38:59.380 Wow.

00:38:59.780 They literally planned it.

00:39:00.740 So I produced all the appropriate recordings to the judge saying there's the truth.

00:39:04.140 The whole thing's a lie.

00:39:05.120 Everyone was paid.

00:39:06.260 I put in a freedom of information request to find out how much the council spent on buying

00:39:09.680 the silence of their employees.

00:39:12.140 £275,000.

00:39:13.320 And then, so they were telling the whole country I lied.

00:39:16.100 And one mother, the mother who had a bite mark, their whole case rested on the fact

00:39:21.200 that she put out a statement saying what she said wasn't true.

00:39:24.500 I went and knocked on her door, bedding the camera, and just said, look, what's going on? 0.78

00:39:27.920 She goes, Tommy, they're threatening to rape us. 0.96

00:39:31.260 Wow. 0.99

00:39:31.600 All on camera.

00:39:32.660 It's all on the documentary.

00:39:33.620 So I said, OK, so did he attack your daughter?

00:39:36.860 She said, yes, but we've got to live here, Tommy, yeah?

00:39:39.320 My daughter's got to walk these streets. 1.00

00:39:40.720 I said, I'll get it.

00:39:41.340 Don't worry.

00:39:41.860 I go, don't worry, all right?

00:39:43.160 But I've got it in the recordings.

00:39:44.020 So I put it to the judge saying, it's all true, yeah?

00:39:47.640 The judge listed everything that he saw on the covert recordings.

00:39:51.140 He then ruled against me and gave me an injunction saying if any of this footage or any of the

00:39:57.200 school records are ever released, you get two years in jail.

00:40:00.900 Oh, so that, so the fact that if you've released this.

00:40:04.300 I have released it.

00:40:04.700 I've never released it.

00:40:05.500 Someone did.

00:40:06.340 Someone did.

00:40:07.500 Therefore, you can go to jail.

00:40:09.160 Therefore, I'm in breach.

00:40:09.940 When will that decision be made?

00:40:12.420 I go to court on the 29th of July.

00:40:14.460 Now, if you look at the timing of it, the film was released 18 months ago.

00:40:18.020 The court case was four years ago, yeah?

00:40:19.900 I've never released it.

00:40:20.960 It's never gone out on any of my social media.

00:40:22.660 It was leaked in America.

00:40:24.180 Now, and it hasn't had that many views.

00:40:27.100 By bringing me to court and putting me in jail, which is their plan, I guess it's going

00:40:30.940 to bring a lot of attention to the film.

00:40:32.440 If you watch the film, there's no gray area.

00:40:35.320 I, as a journalist, reported the truth.

00:40:37.740 I'd done an investigation.

00:40:38.620 And I told the public the truth.

00:40:40.620 They're not happy that the public got the truth.

00:40:42.000 Because what the truth was, that the civilian refugee was one of 20,000 that the conservative

00:40:45.900 government brought in at the height of the ISIS war.

00:40:48.100 When no one wanted civilian refugees into our country, one of them has been causing mayhem. 1.00

00:40:53.120 Just what are the other 19,999 up to?

00:40:56.380 But you've changed the whole story to the entire country.

00:41:00.840 And you've made it, and the collateral damage in this was the English kids who tried to 0.72

00:41:05.940 kill himself, who never had a life from that point on, who ended up living with me. 0.71

00:41:10.180 His sisters were out of education for six months. 0.97

00:41:12.440 They had nowhere to live.

00:41:14.300 None of the school teachers have worked again.

00:41:16.260 They closed the school.

00:41:16.920 The entire school got shut down over this.

00:41:19.040 Wow.

00:41:19.340 So that's the story.

00:41:20.100 So I'm in court on the 29th of July.

00:41:21.820 I face two years in prison.

00:41:23.040 So the film, which the public has.

00:41:26.200 You probably will have a lot of Muslim friends in prison, no? 1.00

00:41:29.300 Of course.

00:41:30.060 I'm a well-popular in there.

00:41:31.540 But they put me on solitary confinement, which is what they done last time.

00:41:33.940 So I'll have a year of solitary confinement.

00:41:36.620 And I said, like, I'm good company, but I'm not that good company.

00:41:40.060 I'll get it on my own for a while.

00:41:41.940 But they know that.

00:41:42.940 They know the purpose of that, which is mental abuse, mental torture.

00:41:46.240 But for a film.

00:41:47.460 So in 2024, I'm a journalist in Great Britain.

00:41:50.240 I made a documentary.

00:41:51.440 The public have seen it, some of them.

00:41:53.420 And you're going to look now for two years.

00:41:54.440 But the thing is, because of the media, all they'll say is I lied.

00:41:59.400 A, because they said that last time, which I didn't.

00:42:01.640 And I broke a legal injunction, which is a legal injunction that is to prevent the public seeing their lies and their corruption.

00:42:09.420 The whole story is, when you see it all put together in the documentary, it's like, you see, and do you know what?

00:42:14.420 We talked about earlier about Elon Musk.

00:42:16.200 Elon Musk talked about citizen journalism and how important it is to citizen journalism.

00:42:20.320 I'm not just saying it because this is my work, yeah?

00:42:22.500 This is the best piece of citizen journalism investigation anyone's ever going to watch.

00:42:25.700 It totally, from start to finish, highlights and embarrasses and humiliates and gets the entire process of the unholy alliance of the media, the council, far-left organizations, Muslim extremist organizations, and the judiciary. 0.81

00:42:39.260 All cooperating together in order to control the narrative. 0.97

00:42:42.100 And the narrative was open-border immigration and English racist bad, English white racists. 0.95

00:42:47.100 All right, a couple of personal questions. 0.97

00:42:49.800 Yes.

00:42:51.260 So, in The Sad Truth About Happiness, in my latest book, I talk about, you know, what are some roads to happiness that could come through your work?

00:43:00.560 And I argue, not surprisingly, that anything that gives you purpose and meaning is all other things considered going to make you happy, right?

00:43:07.500 So, if you, for example, create things, you're a chef, you're an architect, you're an author, because you're creating, it gives you purpose and meaning.

00:43:15.040 Now, someone, like in your case, who is obviously doing stuff that is really important civilizationally, is going to have that sense of purpose and meaning.

00:43:23.220 Could you have ever imagined having a career other than what kind of the trajectory that you've taken that would have given you as much purpose and meaning?

00:43:32.500 Do you know what, do you know, like, so when this film got leaked, it was probably 18 months ago, and I was on my way to America.

00:43:38.360 So, it got leaked 18 months ago, and as soon as I got leaked, I thought, they're going to lock me up, I know they're going to lock me up.

00:43:43.360 So, I thought, I started making a documentary, I thought, I'm going to see how easy it is to get in the United States.

00:43:47.660 And it cost $10,000 from the Bahamas, okay?

00:43:50.980 And it's all Irish, the Irish are all going into America on boats, white Irish, travellers. 1.00

00:43:55.680 So, I looked at this, and I went out there, and then I didn't come home for six months, and I was lost.

00:44:01.240 Lost in purpose and meaning, yeah?

00:44:03.520 Whenever I've stopped, whenever I've, and sometimes I've thought, I've had enough, I'm tired, yeah?

00:44:07.520 So, I've gone to stop my work, and I've lost purpose and meaning.

00:44:11.780 And then when I've thrown myself back in, like I have for the last six months, I've never been so focused and driven in my life, yeah?

00:44:17.740 Because I've got my purpose and meaning, I've got my cause, I've got my focus, I know what I'm doing.

00:44:21.760 I don't know where it's taken me, but I know why I'm doing it.

00:44:24.060 Yeah, and first, I get a massive buzz off of, probably why censorship was so difficult to deal with.

00:44:32.820 I get a buzz off of, if you, I gave a speech at Oxford University, the Oxford Union, when I walked in there, everyone hated me, yeah?

00:44:39.940 I was getting booed, I was getting shouted at.

00:44:41.560 I've had an hour and 15 minute presentation when I walked out, everyone was taking selfies, yeah? 0.92

00:44:46.180 Because, and I got a buzz, if you look at the comments, they said, I thought this bloke was a thump, I thought he was a Nazi, I thought he was braindead.

00:44:53.400 I can't believe I've been lying to, yeah?

00:44:55.100 So, I get a buzz off of challenging people's opinions and changing their minds, and making them open their eyes to the problems that I've seen.

00:45:00.940 So, that's my buzz.

00:45:01.780 So, censorship took that buzz away.

00:45:03.400 Censorship made me talking in a little air-cow chamber to myself, and it took away my driving and everything.

00:45:08.760 So, yeah, I think my purpose and meaning, certainly, is like, I have been a man on the mission for 12 years.

00:45:14.640 At times, I got tired and took a break.

00:45:16.720 So, now I deal with it by going mad for two weeks, and then I go to a fitness camp for a week on my own, or go for walks for a week.

00:45:23.200 How does your family, I mean, they were catapulted into this life of yours without it being their choosing. 0.57

00:45:31.940 Are they currently happy that you've taken this path, or do they say, can you just keep your big mouth shut?

00:45:38.240 No, the kids have, there's been a massive shift, yeah?

00:45:41.560 So, my kids have got to see that.

00:45:43.080 My kids get to see the love I have people show me, whether I'll be in the car, when I'm out in the streets with people coming up, taking photos.

00:45:50.480 So, my kids get to see the positivity.

00:45:52.340 They've seen negativity.

00:45:53.280 They've seen me violently attacked.

00:45:54.720 I've been violently attacked multiple times in front of my family.

00:45:57.920 They've seen that, but they also know why I do what I do.

00:46:01.920 I've had these conversations.

00:46:03.840 So, I think now when my children come to the last rally on June 1st, we had 30,000 in London.

00:46:08.340 It's the first event my family...

00:46:09.520 You have another one coming up soon.

00:46:10.600 27th of July, two days before my court case.

00:46:12.660 This is the reason they've thrown this case at me.

00:46:14.580 Right.

00:46:15.000 This is why at the time, they've held it for 18...

00:46:17.440 It was 18 months ago, and then bang, you're in court.

00:46:19.660 You're in court because they're worried, because there seems to be a mass awakening.

00:46:22.860 People are unifying.

00:46:25.120 We held an event where there was members of every different British community or minority group that had come together and said,

00:46:30.500 look, we've had enough of this.

00:46:31.540 Right.

00:46:31.740 We've had enough of this, yeah.

00:46:33.440 We've been silent about it for too long.

00:46:36.860 The public have come together.

00:46:38.040 But my kids have thankfully ended up being through bad times and facing it again now.

00:46:43.460 I think my kids have grown up to see the reason I do it, because I kept it all shielded from when they were younger.

00:46:50.780 Right.

00:46:51.180 And they've had a difficult time.

00:46:52.340 All right, two more questions, although, of course, I could keep you here for another four hours.

00:46:57.100 But my wife is picking me up shortly, so we have to end it soon.

00:47:00.980 So, in one of the last chapters of the happiness book, I talk about regret.

00:47:06.200 And here, I want to set it up for you and then ask you the question.

00:47:08.780 So, one of my former professors, when I was doing my PhD, his name is Thomas Gilovich.

00:47:13.640 He studied the psychology of regret, and he argued, he wasn't the first one to argue this,

00:47:18.680 but that there are two sources of regret.

00:47:20.720 There is regret due to inaction or regret due to action.

00:47:25.420 So, regret due to inaction, I regret that I never became an artist and became an accountant

00:47:30.780 because my dad was an accountant.

00:47:32.260 So, I regret that I didn't pursue what I wanted to pursue.

00:47:35.360 Regret due to action would be, I regret that I cheated on my wife,

00:47:39.180 and because of that action, that led to my divorce.

00:47:42.260 Well, if you ask people over the long term to look back at their life

00:47:47.040 in terms of what has been the most looming regret in their life,

00:47:51.120 usually it ends up being a regret due to inaction, the road not taken.

00:47:55.840 So, if I ask you, you're still a young man, but if I were to ask you today,

00:47:59.620 looking back, what is your singular or maybe couple of greatest sources of regret,

00:48:05.780 would you be willing to share some of those?

00:48:07.080 I can't blame the film.

00:48:08.180 So, when the judge gave me the injunction, and it's had me up ever since.

00:48:11.500 So, if you worry about consequences, you're never going to bring about change.

00:48:15.580 So, I've never worried about the consequences.

00:48:17.060 I thought, I'll deal with the consequences when it happens.

00:48:18.640 And that's from the start of activism.

00:48:19.860 What are we doing? We're doing this.

00:48:20.860 Why are we doing it? It's right.

00:48:21.960 Who cares what else happens? 1.00

00:48:23.180 People want to kill you.

00:48:23.820 Now, at prison, we have a saying with English defensively, 0.98

00:48:26.940 death, prison or glory, we shall not submit.

00:48:29.560 That's what we said, we're going to live by this rule.

00:48:31.680 It doesn't, and we're not stopping.

00:48:33.440 And it got us all that way, and for the first time,

00:48:35.600 probably because I've done multiple stints of solitary confinement

00:48:37.800 and been in a bad place from them,

00:48:40.040 when the judge gave me that injunction,

00:48:41.920 my regret is not walking out of court and playing that film straight away

00:48:44.620 and saying, stuff your injunction.

00:48:46.740 Your injunction, I don't recognise your injunction,

00:48:49.520 because your injunction is prohibiting the freedom of the press,

00:48:51.660 it's prohibiting the freedom of the speech,

00:48:52.780 it's prohibiting the public.

00:48:53.640 You're censoring the public from seeing the reality of what this lie is about.

00:48:58.200 And I didn't do that. I didn't do that.

00:48:59.940 And the reason I didn't do it is because I worried about the consequence.

00:49:02.160 I worried about the consequence and the effect it would have on my kids,

00:49:04.140 because I'd seen the effect it had each time I went to jail.

00:49:06.380 I worried about my boys.

00:49:07.740 I worried about all those different things,

00:49:09.100 and that's why I didn't do it.

00:49:10.500 And I think I failed, for a year, it ate me up.

00:49:15.080 I thought I failed myself, and I failed my cause,

00:49:19.360 because I should have done it instantly.

00:49:21.460 And I still agree at that.

00:49:22.340 And I still agree at it.

00:49:23.800 And it's like I'm sitting in a film,

00:49:25.420 if you think you're going to take me to court on the 29th of July,

00:49:28.720 and you're going to put me in prison without me, 0.54

00:49:31.080 with me going quietly, you're wrong.

00:49:33.220 Right.

00:49:33.660 The world will see that film.

00:49:35.160 If you bring me to jail, the world's going to see the film.

00:49:37.680 I'm not going to go quietly on the issue.

00:49:38.960 And essentially, the only safety mechanism I have is enough of the public get to see that film.

00:49:44.460 Because if the public see the film, they know that all I've done was report the truth.

00:49:47.700 All I've done was give the public the truth, which is what they don't want them having.

00:49:52.120 I challenged the government narrative, and that's why they're punishing me for it.

00:49:55.440 So that's my regret.

00:49:56.200 So that's a regret that's really eked me up.

00:49:59.000 I should have done it.

00:50:00.020 All the other mistakes I've made, which I've made lots, 0.98

00:50:03.060 I've done stupid things at different times,

00:50:06.900 I think that every mistake you make changes the character you become. 0.94

00:50:10.320 I don't regret them, mistakes.

00:50:12.860 I don't regret learning from them.

00:50:14.740 One regret I'd have is drinking, partying.

00:50:17.780 Because if I'd have been focused,

00:50:19.640 I look at essentially some of the stuff I've done, or work I've done,

00:50:23.240 and I look back and think,

00:50:24.360 jeez, I weren't in a good place for years there.

00:50:26.560 And what could I have done if I was straight-headed, clean, fit, physically fit?

00:50:30.860 The one thing I'd have, my regret is being a mess, or a lazy mess.

00:50:36.260 Instead, I now have to get in the room.

00:50:38.200 Like you said earlier, you walk every day.

00:50:39.680 I have to train every day.

00:50:41.380 If I go three or four days, I'm training.

00:50:43.160 Can I share your walk yesterday when you came to see me?

00:50:46.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:46.580 So for those of you who don't know, I'm going to look at the camera,

00:50:48.960 that where we are today is about a two-hour walk from where we ended up meeting.

00:50:53.600 So I asked Tommy, how did you get here?

00:50:56.400 He said, oh, I walked, mate.

00:50:58.060 I'm like, two hours?

00:50:59.220 So he walked there and walked back.

00:51:00.980 So that was about four hours.

00:51:01.980 That was impressive.

00:51:02.900 But I enjoy it.

00:51:03.680 I enjoy it now.

00:51:04.720 But I essentially need to do that.

00:51:06.340 I need to, for my own thing, is just train.

00:51:08.740 I need to get up and do.

00:51:10.220 And even if I'm tired, I still do this.

00:51:11.960 I need routine.

00:51:12.580 I'm a creature of habit.

00:51:13.780 I need routine.

00:51:14.520 Beautiful.

00:51:14.800 I need routine to have stability.

00:51:16.120 All right.

00:51:16.380 So tell us, where can people find you?

00:51:18.780 Anything you want to promote, take it away.

00:51:20.120 From July 29th, HMP Bill Marsh.

00:51:21.820 You can find me on Twitter, thanks to Elon Musk, at T. Robinson, New Era.

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