The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - September 12, 2025


My Thoughts on How to Interview the Alleged Assassin of Charlie Kirk (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_874)

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parasitized mind assassination
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Gad Saad
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Charlie Kirk Park Dietz Suicidal Empathy Glenn Ross Elon Musk Shabbat Hitler
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In the wake of the arrest of a 22-year-old college student who has been charged with the murder of Charlie Kirk, it is important to remember that this young man was not born with a mind parasitized by other people. In fact, his mind was parasitized to the point that he was unable to make a rational decision. And in order to understand why this happened, we need to look at the parasitology of his mind.

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00:00:00.080 Hi everybody, this is Gad Saad. You've probably heard by now that the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk has been caught.
00:00:10.100 He's a, I think, 22-year-old Utah resident who's a university student who apparently got a scholarship to attend, you know, a full scholarship financial ride.
00:00:25.000 And so he comes from apparently a good background and so on. So it's not as though there is something intrinsically, you know, disastrous in his background that could explain why this happened.
00:00:37.220 Not that, you know, anything could justify what happened to Charlie.
00:00:42.800 But what I wanted to spend time today is talk about what I think should happen in terms of the opportunity to study parasitized minds.
00:00:56.280 So when you think back of forensic psychiatry and forensic psychology, which, by the way, was an area that I had seriously thought about going into at one point.
00:01:08.120 And I discuss why I didn't in the happiness book.
00:01:13.260 What you often have are these experts who will interview, for example, serial killers to really get an academic understanding of what made them do the things that they do.
00:01:28.060 Is it what percentage of it is due to nature?
00:01:32.300 What percentage is due to nurture? 0.63
00:01:34.880 Are you born a serial killer?
00:01:36.800 Are there any mitigating factors in your childhood that could have caused this?
00:01:42.700 And so on and so forth.
00:01:43.580 And so there's real value in trying to understand, you know, what are the dark forces that compel a serial killer to become a serial killer?
00:01:53.220 And the classic example that I am thinking about in terms of an interview is the Iceman tapes where Dr. Park Dietz, who is arguably the most famous forensic psychiatrist in the United States.
00:02:15.380 He's worked on many famous cases and I briefly discuss him in my forthcoming book, Suicidal Empathy, where I talk about how psychopaths, you know, have a lack of empathy.
00:02:26.320 And the interaction between the Iceman and Park Dietz is really just illuminating.
00:02:36.100 Because you really see right there in front of you what happens to a human being when they are completely bereft of remorse, of empathy, of a sense, you know, a conscience.
00:02:53.140 Because at one point, the Iceman is, sorry, I have a bit of a cold, so that's why you're hearing me, you know, coughing and so on.
00:03:03.640 The Iceman is explaining that, yeah, when he was younger, he would, you know, torture puppies and so on.
00:03:09.260 And so Park Dietz asks him, well, how did that make you feel?
00:03:12.220 And the Iceman is like surprised by this question.
00:03:15.760 What do you mean how did it make me feel?
00:03:17.180 Nothing.
00:03:17.940 Because he wasn't able to put himself in the mind of the psychiatrist who would very reasonably be asking, hey, did you feel any remorse?
00:03:25.720 Did you feel any disgust?
00:03:26.880 Did you feel any aversion?
00:03:28.340 And basically, the killer said, I felt nothing.
00:03:33.500 So now let's move it to the assassin, the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk.
00:03:39.680 What I would want to see, and I am willing to volunteer for that role, I would want to see a academic study of the process by which this kid's mind was parasitized.
00:04:00.840 So in the same way, for example, where in psychology of decision making, if you want to study what are the cognitive processes by which someone is coming to a decision, there's what's called the eye tracking methodology, where you literally can track a person's eyes, how they're going through an informational display board or how they're going through a website.
00:04:20.320 And actually, my former doctoral supervisor, Jay Russo, who's a cognitive psychologist and mathematical psychologist by training, has written papers on the eye tracking methodology.
00:04:33.360 And so here you are literally breaking down at the granular level.
00:04:37.360 How did you make a decision?
00:04:39.480 What were the exact pieces of information that you looked at and in which order?
00:04:43.720 So I would want that kind of analysis, but in terms of the parasitology of this alleged assassin's mind.
00:04:54.240 How did you, what were the exact steps, the exact idea pathogens that parasitized your mind, that made you think that here I am, a 22-year-old kid, good background.
00:05:10.060 I'm getting a full scholarship to university, I've got my whole life ahead of me, but the best decision that I could come up with moving forward on that fateful day two days ago is to go and assassinate a lovely human being with whom you may disagree on some points, but in a free society, all he's saying is, hey, let's talk.
00:05:36.760 Well, that 22-year-old assassin, his mind was disordered.
00:05:41.720 It was disordered in a way whereby he thought by him doing this, he's actually doing a great thing, right?
00:05:48.480 As I keep repeating to people and, you know, I'll get someone like Elon Musk fully agreeing, I always say, and remember again those words,
00:05:59.360 there is nothing in nature that is more dangerous than a parasitized mind.
00:06:05.260 All the great calamities of history are because someone had a bad idea, right? 0.95
00:06:11.540 Hitler thought, hey, there is a problem in the world, that problem is the Jews. 0.79
00:06:18.400 If I come along now and institute a mechanism whereby we eradicate that problem, then hey, the world would be a better place. 0.89
00:06:27.260 And so this 22-year-old got to where he got because of an orgiastic debauchery of parasitic thinking.
00:06:41.920 And so I really hope that as they sit and try to understand, you know, why he did what he did, that they really focus on that specific aspect.
00:06:52.800 It's not just about, you know, were you abused as a child?
00:06:56.280 Did your daddy hug you enough or not hug you enough?
00:06:59.180 Those are sort of the typical things that you look for.
00:07:01.860 No, no, no.
00:07:02.300 I want to understand. 0.98
00:07:03.500 I want to have a neuronal tracking of what led you to be the parasitized degenerate that you are. 0.87
00:07:11.940 Those are my first thoughts.
00:07:13.500 I wish you all a great weekend.
00:07:15.540 Shabbat shalom to everybody.