The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - December 12, 2024


On Having Sex with 100 Men (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_768)


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Who are we to judge? Lily Phillips, the British entertainer who slept with over 100 men, is one of the most famous entertainers of all time, but do we really have the right to judge her? Or do we have a moral obligation to do so?

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00:00:00.000 So today I want to talk about the story that many of you have probably heard of, this British woman, her name is Lily Phillips.
00:00:11.720 She is a only fans, you know, performer, I don't know what, what's how you would call her performer or talent or entertainer who famously just slept as part of some documentary with 100 guys.
00:00:31.680 And apparently this was a training for eventually sleeping with 1000 guys.
00:00:41.140 And this is contiguous, right?
00:00:42.960 It's not what the kids now call body count, meaning over a lifetime or up to now in your life.
00:00:49.160 This is you begin and you sleep with whatever the desired number that you want to reach.
00:00:56.460 And so there's a lot to talk about here.
00:00:58.980 There's stuff that we could talk about from an evolutionary perspective, from a moral perspective, from a germ contamination perspective.
00:01:07.420 There are many different angles.
00:01:08.720 Earlier today I posted a tweet, a post about this thing.
00:01:13.740 And so that's what got me thinking that maybe it might be a good idea to discuss it a bit.
00:01:19.880 I guess the first thing I want to talk about is this idea that, you know, who are we to judge, right?
00:01:27.060 I mean, why do you judge?
00:01:28.660 Please don't judge, right?
00:01:30.720 And so there is a passage in the parasitic mind, for those of you who have read it, and if you haven't read it, I urge you to do so.
00:01:41.180 So on page 175, where I'm talking about a call to action, the idea being that in the parasitic mind, I was saying that a lot of times what stops people from, you know, fighting back against parasitic ideas is that they're afraid to judge.
00:01:57.560 And so very much here you'll see a lot of people who, instead of judging what Lily Phillips has done or what the hundred men who decided to partake in this, I mean, I guess literally an orgy, we shouldn't judge them.
00:02:14.600 You know, sex positivity, who are we to judge, right?
00:02:17.680 And so let me read for you what I said about this in, as I said, on page 175 of the parasitic mind.
00:02:25.760 It's almost the entire page.
00:02:28.340 So I'll read it and then I'll say a few other things.
00:02:32.280 In a similar way, many well-intentioned individuals are too afraid to judge others.
00:02:37.540 The Cambridge Dictionary lists the following synonyms and related words for non-judgmental, open-minded, enlightened, free-thinking, inclusive, liberal, live-and-let-live, an idiom, permissive, society, and tolerant, right?
00:02:55.280 So not judging is a good quality.
00:02:58.260 Recall the colloquialisms that speak to this aversion to judge.
00:03:01.880 Who am I to judge?
00:03:03.020 I'm not one to judge.
00:03:04.400 No judgment.
00:03:05.200 Where does this reticence stem from?
00:03:08.760 The West is founded on a bedrock of Judeo-Christian traditions, and many assume, as per Christian theology, that judging others can be a sin.
00:03:17.680 Several Gospels contain edicts against judging others.
00:03:21.600 In the Pericope Adalture, John 7.53 and 8.11, Jesus says,
00:03:30.140 Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her, in reference to the imminent stoning of a woman who has committed adultery.
00:03:41.260 And in Matthew 7.1-2, one finds,
00:03:45.460 Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
00:03:48.900 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
00:03:55.280 In Luke 6.37, we have,
00:03:57.660 Finally, James 4.12 posits,
00:04:08.720 Many people interpret these teachings as implying that the act of judging is divinely forbidden.
00:04:25.000 A cosmic command to live and let live.
00:04:28.260 But this is incorrect.
00:04:30.060 These edicts are referring to moral hypocrisy.
00:04:33.700 People who spew falsehood should be judged.
00:04:36.280 I do it every day.
00:04:37.560 By the way, I've been a member of many scientific societies,
00:04:43.620 one of which is the Society for Judgment and Decision Making.
00:04:49.660 In other words, it's perfectly natural.
00:04:52.720 It is part of being human to judge, right?
00:04:58.580 We judge which car we're going to choose.
00:05:00.940 We judge whether a position that we hear is right or wrong.
00:05:04.600 We judge whether this is the right type of friend to have.
00:05:08.660 So, there's nothing inappropriate, ungodly, immoral about judging.
00:05:14.200 I judge all day long.
00:05:16.160 I have a very huge following, you know, because I judge people, right?
00:05:22.420 Now, it's not because I'm an opinionated, dogmatic ass.
00:05:25.820 It's because it makes perfect sense if you're going to be involved in social commentary to judge.
00:05:31.880 People who are interesting to listen to,
00:05:34.980 people who are authors who are interesting to read,
00:05:37.520 are precisely those who take positions, right?
00:05:40.140 They don't equivocate.
00:05:41.300 They're not fence sitters.
00:05:42.380 The world is not shaped by those who say,
00:05:44.700 but who am I to judge?
00:05:45.840 You know, I could see the pros and cons of both sides.
00:05:48.840 No, no, no.
00:05:49.540 I judge MFR, okay?
00:05:52.380 When I don't think that I've got the necessary information to be able to defend why I should judge,
00:06:00.600 well, then I withhold judgment.
00:06:02.400 But the idea that we should always be tepid as we navigate through social dynamics is complete nonsense.
00:06:08.480 So, let me begin by judging, and then I'll talk about some evolutionary angles.
00:06:20.140 My, you know, I think it's a tragedy what this girl is doing.
00:06:24.960 You saw it after she had had sex with a hundred men.
00:06:31.120 She appeared, she's trying to be stoic, right?
00:06:33.780 She's trying to put on the, you know, militant feminism, sex positivity.
00:06:40.480 I love sex, and I'm in control, and I'm in power.
00:06:43.820 And what's wrong with that?
00:06:45.080 By the way, I'm going to read you in a second a passage from my latest book on happiness regarding this kind of stuff.
00:06:52.760 I'll read it in a minute.
00:06:53.980 But this idea that, you know, it's all positive, and I'm in control,
00:06:59.120 you see how she's utterly broken in her soul as she comes out of this marathon of orgiastic sex, right?
00:07:11.780 No human being has evolved to sit in one seating or lie in one seating and, you know, be ravaged by a hundred men.
00:07:23.480 Unless, of course, you're at a ditty party, in which case it's all good.
00:07:26.700 But one thing that we, and this is not me trying to be, you know, equal in my moral aversion or repulsion,
00:07:37.600 but the 100 men who said, yeah, sign me up for that are true degenerates.
00:07:46.160 Because for me, maybe my theory of mind compass is too, maybe too active.
00:07:55.500 But I always try to say, what if this were my daughter?
00:08:00.100 What if this is someone I know?
00:08:02.420 How could, so I could never imagine my libidinal drive being so activated
00:08:09.740 that I could somehow shut off the inner voice that says, this seems grotesque,
00:08:18.240 that I could not engage in such an act.
00:08:20.600 And by the way, I've been in situations when I was a soccer player where we would travel places.
00:08:26.080 I mean, it wasn't a hundred guys, but where there'd be some real debauchery going on.
00:08:31.860 And I never partook in it, not because, you know, I'm the Buddha,
00:08:37.620 but because it just never interested me to be this kind of orgiastic animal.
00:08:43.940 And believe me, it's hardly that I'm puritanical.
00:08:47.320 You know, I've been in locker rooms, I can mix it up with the best of them.
00:08:51.920 But this idea that you'd be willing to, you know, I just want to be able to have sex.
00:08:57.980 And so, therefore, let me line up in an orderly queue of a hundred men.
00:09:01.920 Okay, so that's, so you are, if you participated in this,
00:09:05.860 so forgetting about Lily Phillips, you're a degenerate.
00:09:09.160 You're a moral pig.
00:09:10.960 You have no sense of goodness in you.
00:09:14.340 Because, again, your desire to, forgive me for saying it very bluntly,
00:09:19.100 have a very ephemeral orgasm supersedes anything else that could otherwise be inside your head.
00:09:27.320 You're a psychopath.
00:09:28.240 You're a maniac.
00:09:29.080 Okay, so that's, let me tick that off because I've got a little list here of things I want to remember.
00:09:35.200 Okay, by the way, let me just mention, so I am someone who is incredibly germophobic.
00:09:44.000 So I'll share this with you, but I've shared it in other contexts.
00:09:46.780 Because I can't sleep in a hotel.
00:09:53.440 I mean, you know, I stay at beautiful hotels, five-star hotels, very clean.
00:09:58.680 I bring my own sheets because a hotel is a cesspool of degeneracy, right?
00:10:07.100 You're sleeping on every bodily fluid imaginable and unimaginable wherever you lay your hat,
00:10:14.780 your, you know, anything in a hotel.
00:10:17.000 I don't know if you've seen the studies where they use, you know, the blue light or whichever light spectrum allows you to see what's there.
00:10:28.400 It's not pretty.
00:10:29.840 And the fact that, I mean, yes, it's worse if you're at a side motel somewhere,
00:10:34.120 but you could be at a five-star hotel and it'll be nice when your hair on the headboard is swimming in sperm
00:10:43.360 because that's what's going to happen.
00:10:44.840 So good luck to you.
00:10:46.340 And so, you know, I'm unbelievably OCD about cleanliness and so on.
00:10:52.040 So the thought, forgive me for being graphic here, the thought that, you know,
00:10:58.660 it's actually not so bad being number 67 in degeneracy, in the long queue of 100 men.
00:11:04.820 I mean, it really defies the realm of the possible for me to say, I am so, I hate that word, by the way.
00:11:11.140 I'm going to use the H word, that I am so horny that, you know what?
00:11:17.960 So what if I'm number three, number 33, or number 91?
00:11:22.420 Let's get it on.
00:11:23.720 Let's have sex with this poor woman.
00:11:26.420 Okay.
00:11:26.940 So that's another one.
00:11:28.180 And let me now talk a bit about a very important psychometric scale or construct that refers to immediate versus delayed gratification, right?
00:11:40.640 And by the way, I'm thinking at some point of doing an entire show just on this important Q, not Q, concept.
00:11:50.200 So immediate gratification would be, I want it now, delayed gratification, I'm willing to wait for later.
00:11:56.340 And it turns out, of course, that that is incredibly predictive of the likelihood of you being able to succeed in life, right?
00:12:04.300 So if I decide to hold off making any income because there's a long educational trajectory that I must go through if I want to become a professor, yes, I can see all of my friends in high school and in university making money now, a lot more money than I'm making while I'm still a graduate student.
00:12:24.180 I'm, you know, I'm living in, you know, quite poor, but then I will quickly catch up to you eventually, and maybe eventually I will probably surpass you.
00:12:36.220 And so this ability to modulate your immediate rewards to future delayed gratification predicts many, many phenomena, certainly in consumer behavior and economic decision-making and so on.
00:12:49.760 Why am I talking about this?
00:12:51.160 Because what this woman is doing is actually a form of broken calculus when it comes to immediate versus delayed gratification.
00:12:59.740 Because what is she basically saying?
00:13:01.580 My immediate rewards of fame, of money, apparently, I don't know how much she makes, but apparently if you go on her OnlyFans, you know, she makes some obscene amount of money, which, you know, you might say, my God, I write books and I teach students and I supervise graduate students.
00:13:19.080 And I serve on review boards of peer-reviewed journals and I apply for grants and I give lectures and, you know, all these things.
00:13:27.940 And she probably makes more in a month than I do in a year.
00:13:31.420 But that's Darwin for you, right?
00:13:34.300 People are interested in sex.
00:13:35.680 And so it's much easier to sell sex than it is to sell, you know, intellectual pursuits.
00:13:41.600 But what she said basically is, today, while I'm pretty and sexy and a lot of men want to have sex with me, I don't want to think about the future.
00:13:52.620 I want to pursue the immediate gratification of fame and of money.
00:13:59.340 And actually, at one point, she goes, well, I'm sure that hopefully some guy will, in the future, want to marry me.
00:14:07.180 Well, you might want to revisit what kind of guys are likely to marry you in the future.
00:14:12.540 And, by the way, no, it's not the patriarchy that's causing your future male prospective suitors to say, you know what, I'd rather not be married to a woman who's going to be the mother of my children who got gangbanged by 47,000 men.
00:14:33.740 Maybe that's not what I'm looking for.
00:14:35.500 But, I promise you that I would read you a passage about militant feminism.
00:14:42.100 This is on page 32 of The Sad Truth About Happiness.
00:14:47.140 Why is it that Lily Phillips felt so empowered by the idea of, you know what, men can do it, women can too.
00:14:57.200 I love sex, and I'm sex positive.
00:14:59.960 Yeah, sure.
00:15:00.420 So let me read for you here, page 32 from The Sad Truth About Happiness.
00:15:05.500 Militant feminism, which, like socialism and communism, is something that I would call an idea pathogen, a bad idea that gets transmitted virally, largely by universities, is an ideology that has imparted immeasurable misery on millions of women.
00:15:23.200 Because it denies human nature and the reality of sexual differences.
00:15:28.300 That men and women should be treated equally under the law, equity feminism, is a veridical position.
00:15:34.180 But militant feminism has pursued the idea of sexual equality to the point of lunacy, arguing that any differences in behaviors between the sexes are manifestations of an evil patriarchy that must be eradicated.
00:15:50.240 Take, for example, the old alleged double standard regarding human sexuality, namely that promiscuous men are admired, whereas promiscuous women are reviled.
00:16:01.340 According to feminist ideology, this is a means by which the patriarchy keeps women in check.
00:16:08.280 Say no to the patriarchy.
00:16:10.420 Burn your bras, engage in meaningless one-night stands, and refrain from having children.
00:16:15.940 Hey, ladies, you are no different from men, and if they are promiscuous, you should be too.
00:16:21.760 Millions of women answered that call, and yet the longitudinal data tracking women's happiness levels have shown that the trends are going in the wrong direction.
00:16:32.040 Specifically, over a 35-year period, women's levels of subjective well-being in the United States have declined, both in an absolute sense as well as relative to men.
00:16:45.720 This is perhaps not too difficult to explain.
00:16:48.920 Convincing women about the virtues of one-night stands is certain to make men happier than women, at least in the short term.
00:16:58.980 Unencumbered sex is seldom a path to happiness for women.
00:17:03.380 It is marriage, which relies on commitment and trust, not promiscuity, that is positively correlated with happiness.
00:17:10.960 This does not imply that women do not at times enjoy the pursuit of unencumbered sexual variety, but they certainly do not do so to the same extent as men.
00:17:23.340 To recognize this obvious evolutionary fact does not make one a patriarchal misogynist, but someone rooted in reality.
00:17:31.560 It is incontestable that many postulates of militant feminism have been detrimental to women's senses of happiness and well-being.
00:17:41.820 The part where I read you that women are not as interested in unencumbered sex stems from a study by David Schmidt, the evolutionary psychologist, who is a former doctoral student of David Buss, who is a good friend of mine, one of the pioneers of evolutionary psychology.
00:17:59.240 He did a study on 48 countries where he administered the SOI.
00:18:05.380 The SOI is a psychometric scale called the SOI, the acronym is Sociosexual Orientation Inventory, meaning some people score highly on their desire for unencumbered sex.
00:18:19.980 Some score lower, so there are individual differences within a sex, but what we know is that men score much higher than women on their desire for unencumbered sex as captured by the SOI scale.
00:18:34.120 And in every single one of the 48 countries that were studied, that statement held true.
00:18:39.740 It's a human universal.
00:18:41.120 It's a human universal because it is etched, it is inscribed within our biology.
00:18:46.720 So, when this woman, this poor, I'm going to call it degenerate, because yes, I'm going to pass judgment.
00:18:56.780 When this degenerate decides to have sex with a hundred men in preparation of having sex with a thousand men, she is certainly not pursuing her best pathway to happiness and well-being, as is exactly captured by the raw honesty of the documentary that captured how she looked.
00:19:20.980 She looked like a broken human being, right?
00:19:24.200 I mean, you could see it, and actually, frankly, I felt very bad for her.
00:19:29.120 Now, just to add a measure of degeneracy, apparently her parents are well aware of this, and, you know, they support it.
00:19:36.080 Go, girl.
00:19:36.880 And her mother apparently is her sort of, I don't know if she's her booker or agent or, you know, businesswoman.
00:19:43.880 What kind of degenerate maniac must you be that you say, you know what would be a great career path for my daughter?
00:19:52.440 If she gets destroyed by a hundred men?
00:19:56.180 What could be more beautiful than that?
00:19:58.520 Go, girl.
00:19:59.400 You can do it.
00:20:00.960 All right.
00:20:01.620 So, that covers some of that part.
00:20:04.320 Let me just mention a...
00:20:07.040 I'm not going to spend much time on this, because I've already covered it elsewhere.
00:20:12.100 There are some very interesting evolutionary explanations for porn.
00:20:19.400 So, for example, it turns out from actual scientific studies conducting a content analysis of porn that polyandry...
00:20:29.840 So, let me step back here and explain for a second.
00:20:34.380 Polygamy, which is a term that is typically used for one man with multiple women, is actually a misnomer.
00:20:41.040 Polygamy just means one with many.
00:20:45.440 Polygamy can come in two forms.
00:20:48.060 It could come in the form of polygyny, which is one man, multiple women, or in the form of polyandry, which is one woman, multiple men.
00:20:59.380 Now, a study, a historical study of cultures has found that about 85% of documented cultures have allowed for the expression of polygyny in that society.
00:21:15.620 So, meaning that, you know, for example, in Islam, you could have one man with four women.
00:21:20.900 And Mormonism can have also multiple wives, right, sister wives.
00:21:25.380 So, many cultures, the great majority of cultures throughout history, have allowed some affordance to polygyny.
00:21:33.800 The rest of the cultures have institutionalized monogamy.
00:21:39.260 And an extraordinarily small number of societies, the most famous of which is called fraternal Tibetan polyandry,
00:21:49.620 is where you allow for one woman to be shared by multiple men, but it's called fraternal because the men who share that woman are brothers.
00:22:02.580 Meaning that if I can't be assured that the kid is mine, at least let it be from one of my brothers with whom I share, on average, half my genes.
00:22:14.240 Now, why am I saying all this?
00:22:15.320 Because in pornography aimed at heterosexual men, you end up finding, actually, a greater depiction of polyandrous sexual encounters more than you do polygynous encounters.
00:22:34.060 Meaning you would think that much of porn is going to show one guy with a harem of women.
00:22:39.740 It actually shows the opposite.
00:22:43.260 It shows many more frequent depictions of one woman with multiple guys.
00:22:51.300 And there are interesting evolutionary reasons for that.
00:22:53.900 I won't get into it here.
00:22:55.560 But it's something that I discuss in several of my works.
00:22:59.080 You can go back to my book, my 2011 book, The Consuming Instincts, what Juicy Burgers' pornography, Ferraris, and gift-giving reveal about human nature.
00:23:09.040 There I discuss some very, very interesting studies that have explored these kinds of issues.
00:23:29.060 Why am I saying all this?
00:23:30.480 Because even within the context of polyandrous pornographic depictions, it is well beyond the measure of what could be conceived as within the normal range for a woman to be sleeping with 100 men.
00:23:49.520 There is an intimacy to the act.
00:23:51.900 You don't have to be puritanical or a moral puritan to understand that.
00:23:59.560 There is an intimacy in any sexual act.
00:24:03.800 And you don't have to say, you know, I'm unbelievably morally restrained to actually buy that.
00:24:12.820 When you give up your body to 100 men, no good outcome can come of this.
00:24:19.820 Now, she's already feeling how bad her choices were, as we saw, and how broken she was.
00:24:27.240 But if she didn't feel it then, I can assure you that in 5 years or 10 years, she will deeply regret her actions.
00:24:35.580 I can assure you that you can put all your money on that fact because it is inconceivable that she can have one day a child where that child walks around in the world and someone finds out that,
00:24:52.620 oh, your mommy is Lily Phillips, the one who was sloshed by 47,000 men.
00:25:00.260 Oh, that's great.
00:25:01.420 So imagine how selfish you must be that you don't even have the calculus to say, wait a second, the action that I take will have an impact beyond the current immediate time window.
00:25:16.060 How about when I have children in the future?
00:25:19.000 Do you think my current actions might harm them?
00:25:22.240 Lily Phillips doesn't think about that.
00:25:24.260 That's why she's a degenerate pig, as are every single one of those men that said, sign me up for that.
00:25:32.660 They are gargantuan pigs.
00:25:36.260 There you go, folks.
00:25:38.080 I weaved for you some psychology, immediate versus delayed gratification.
00:25:44.180 I hit you with some morality.
00:25:46.480 I hit you with the prescription to not judge is complete nonsense.
00:25:52.080 Walk into the world and judge others.
00:25:54.880 Don't be afraid.
00:25:56.020 Don't be a weak little castrated idiot.
00:25:59.000 We're meant to judge.
00:26:00.760 We're a social species.
00:26:02.480 We judge what's right.
00:26:03.640 We judge what's wrong.
00:26:04.840 That's the problem with why you have lax, you know, punishments when it comes to criminal.
00:26:12.340 Who are we to judge?
00:26:13.320 How do we know what this guy went through in his past?
00:26:15.840 Uh, no, you rape children.
00:26:19.120 I cut off your balls and then I feed you to general population so that they can gang rape you and then we kill you.
00:26:25.620 Right?
00:26:26.460 Judge.
00:26:26.980 It's healthy.
00:26:28.020 It's normal.
00:26:29.200 It is barbaric to never judge.
00:26:31.940 That's what is barbaric.
00:26:33.580 All right, folks, I'm only at around 3,000 steps.
00:26:39.840 I need to get to at least 15,000 steps.
00:26:42.340 So the next thing I'll be doing is judging myself for my apathy for not having reached 15,000 steps.
00:26:49.580 I'm off to exercise on the treadmill to even become sexier than I already am.
00:26:57.680 And I'm at the zenith of what could be sexy given this felt built.
00:27:01.600 Wish you all a great day.
00:27:04.200 Protect your kids from making bad decisions.
00:27:06.980 Love to all.
00:27:07.860 Talk to you soon.
00:27:08.620 Cheers, everybody.