Learn English with Randy Newman. In this episode, Randy Newman talks about the importance of free speech at Cornell University and the life and career of political incorrect gadfly, Dr. Gad Kwan, and his book, "The Sad Truth About Happiness."
00:00:00.000Okay, I'd like to begin with a land acknowledgment. In this very room, Jody Shaw, Matt Taibbi, Greg
00:00:21.360Lukianov, Ricky Schlott, and Barry Strauss spoke before the Heterodox Academy Campus Communities
00:00:27.560at Cornell University and SUNY Cortland and their allies, the Cornell Political Union, on
00:00:34.740the importance of free speech. Now for the politically incorrect part. Dad's sad is my
00:00:43.140hero. Dad's life has been defined by his love of truth and freedom. And I say love,
00:00:57.540of truth and freedom, because these are not academic words involving the head, but also
00:01:03.680deeply held values involving the heart. Dad is unique. Dad is unique among academics in being
00:01:12.920both brilliant in obtaining evidence and using reason to draw conclusions, but he also has
00:01:18.460a heart, the courage of his convictions to voice his conclusions based on evidence and reason.
00:01:24.540In an academic environment of cowardly, heartless, and mindless groupthink. And he does it with
00:01:30.680humor. And my neighbor on my floor said, I should also add, it's a soulless place. Dad is a professor
00:01:40.680of, uh, is a professor of the people and considers it a part of this job description to engage with
00:01:46.560the public. Dad has written several popular books, including The Parasitic Mind, The Sad
00:01:52.700Truth About Happiness, and is now writing a book called Suicidal Empathy. Dad also has his own
00:01:59.700YouTube channel and has appeared on Joe Rogan's and Jordan Peterson's podcast and was an early
00:02:04.700supporter of Jordan Peterson when Jordan found himself in hot water but not conforming to
00:02:09.820conspelt speech demanded by Bill C-16 to use arbitrary and capricious pronouns. Dad is a modern-day
00:02:17.960Till Eulenspiegel who fearlessly calls out intellectual dishonesty and incoherent ideological dogma
00:02:24.960of moral relativism with its internal contradictions and premature claims that the science, the trademark,
00:02:32.960is either irrelevant or separate. I want to read a few sentences from The Parasitic Mind.
00:02:40.100Without the necessary freedoms, it would be impossible to instantiate my second life ideal,
00:02:47.740namely the pursuit and defense of truth. There is a bi-directional relationship between truth and
00:02:53.400freedom, such that the truth will set you free. Some of you recognize that, don't you? John 8, 32.
00:02:59.900And only in being free can one aspire to uncover the truth. A university must choose one of two
00:03:07.460T-loids, the search for truth or social justice, trademark. President Pollack contends that the
00:03:14.160two are not incompatible, but de facto has chosen the T-loids of social justice through an arbitrary
00:03:21.040capricious abhorrence of words that have wounds, to quote Kimberly Crenshaw, and the calling out of
00:03:28.600microaggressions and the promotion of anonymous bias reporting. These lead to self-censorship and puts
00:03:35.080a damper on the search for truth. I want to thank Gad for being so supportive of free speech and the
00:03:41.940search for truth at Cornell, a postmodern Ivy League university that Gad dearly loves. Gad received his MS and
00:03:50.960PhD at Cornell in 1963 and 1964. Not only does Gad... 1993. 1993. I'm a child of the 60s. Let me start again. Gad received his MS and PhD at Cornell in 1993 and 1994. Not only does Gad adore Cornell, but he's also adored. Is Jay Russo here? Gad's major professor is...
00:04:20.940coming. Hannah Silverstein, a fellow student, had a dinner last night. Tom Gilovich...
00:04:30.940Must be the traffic. Is coming. And Dennis Regan could not make it. Please do say hello to Gad said for me. But April 9th is my daughter's birthday and they'll be far away.
00:04:52.920David Dunning could not be here. Thanks for the invite, but I now work at the University of Michigan. And worse, I'm at sabbatic at Arizona State. So I'll not be in town.
00:05:00.920So I'll not be in town. Do give my regards to Gad, who I do remember and I hope his old soccer injury is a lot of what I remember.
00:05:10.920Gad ends his book. Gad ends his book, The Sad Truth About Happiness, with these words.
00:05:20.920My recipe for the good life includes, one, finding the right spouse. On that note, I'd like to thank my wife, Amy, who brings me so much happiness. It's about Judy.
00:05:36.920In no small way has really made all these talks possible. So thank you. Thank you. And thank you all for having the courage to be here.
00:05:53.920So let me... it's not on? Is it on? No. I'm pressing it.
00:06:00.920Well, thank you for that lovely introduction. I've had several lovely introductions in my career, none of which led to such a beautiful emotional moment. So I think I'm going to put that on my CV.
00:06:25.920Thank you all for coming. I didn't know Randy told me that it takes great courage to show up to this thing. I didn't think that it required so much courage. So thank you for your courage in showing up to my talk.
00:06:38.920Some of us went through the Lebanese Civil War. That took courage. Apparently it takes equal courage to just show up to a talk at Cornell.
00:06:46.920So today what I'd like to do is give an overview of some of the things that, regrettably, I've been worrying about in academia for several decades.
00:06:56.920That resulted in me writing The Parasitic Mind. But notwithstanding that there is some evidence that things are improving, there's still a lot of work to be done.
00:07:05.920So hopefully all the people who are here will help and affect some change. Let me just give you... Randy gave a bit of a history of my relationship with Cornell.
00:07:18.920This first photo here is me while I was a student here. This is when I came back in 2000 as a visiting professor at the Johnson School.
00:07:29.920This is in 2001 when I spoke at the, I think it was at the Stafford School, and my children were this young at the time.
00:07:36.920This was taken during that visit, so I'm proudly embedding them within the Cornell brand.
00:07:46.920This is when I was, it's, you shouldn't use the word obese, you should use words like differently-weighted.
00:07:53.920This is when I used to be differently-weighted. In 2012 I came here to speak about the consuming instinct,
00:08:00.920which is an area of, my main area of research, which is applying evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology in the behavioral sciences.
00:08:09.920This is two years ago when several of Jay Russo's students, he's my, he was my supervisor for my PhD, he's a cognitive psychologist.
00:08:19.920We came back to Ithaca to honor him on his retirement. So I, I guess he's not here yet, but he's supposed to be here. I hope he doesn't show up.
00:08:27.920And then the next slide is me trying to fit in at, at Cornell because I hear that it is a truly, supremely woke place.
00:08:38.920So this is my alter ego, Fierce Sally. I, I love smashing capitalism. Ask me about my pronouns. You got Revolucion with Che Guevara.
00:08:47.920And this is actually a clip that I posted after I came back from this trip because it truly was that Ithaca was the epicenter of wokeness.
00:09:02.920I didn't remember it as such when I was at Cornell. And as Randy said, I have infinite love for Cornell, but maybe not some of the parasitic infestations that we see at Cornell.
00:09:14.920So hopefully I can help in administering some of the mind vaccines that are necessary.
00:09:19.920Why did I use the parasitic framework in describing some of these issues?
00:09:25.920Well, as you probably know, and certainly now that we face COVID, human beings have faced a slew of pathogenic realities, whether it be viruses or parasites or bacteria or fungi.
00:09:40.920But of course I argue that human minds can also suffer from a second class of neural parasites.
00:09:48.920These are beliefs, ideas, attitudes that are parasitic in nature.
00:09:53.920And I'll try to explain what I mean by parasitic in a few minutes by also drawing some examples from the animal kingdom.
00:10:00.920So here's an example from the animal kingdom.
00:10:05.920Here you've got a spider wasp that stings a much larger spider, rendering it zombified, and then it carries it to its burrow where it lays eggs on it.
00:10:19.920And then when the offspring hatch, they get to eat the spider in vivo.
00:10:28.920And so I argue that political correctness is very much akin to the spider wasps thing, right?
00:10:35.920We haplessly walk into the abyss of infinite lunacy quietly and according to plan.
00:16:08.920Do I suffer from dermatological original sin?
00:16:12.920So that will determine whether I get those Canada research chairs.
00:16:16.920And if you think I'm being satirical or hyperbolic, I will actually show you specific language.
00:16:22.920And you won't believe that it's possible.
00:16:25.920This, by the way, is a case that is just unbelievable.
00:16:29.920I mean, you truly think it's just satirical.
00:16:32.920This is a law professor at UBC, University of British Columbia, who didn't get tenure because, you know, she didn't publish anything.
00:16:41.920And so she decided that in her culture, which is an oral tradition culture, you know, this thing of writing that would have resulted in her publishing papers was contrary to the ethos of her culture.
00:16:58.920Therefore, to ask her to have published things for tenure would have been an attack on her culture.
00:17:04.920And the human rights tribunal said, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
00:17:11.920I mean, that's not a good thing, right?
00:17:15.920So this is, University of Waterloo is kind of the MIT of Canada.
00:17:21.920It's where a lot of the top engineering students, I mean, there are many great engineering schools in Canada, but Waterloo is kind of, as I said, MIT, Caltech.
00:17:30.920A lot of the computer science stuff has happened at Waterloo.
00:17:33.920So this is, again, a NSERC, which is the National Science Engineering Research Council.
00:17:40.920So this is the NSERC Tier 1 Canada Research Chair.
00:17:45.920So this is the top of the top when it comes to being endowed for a chair professorship in computer science in Canada.
00:17:51.920Let me read you what you are, what we expect of you for the two positions.
00:17:56.920This is straight out of, I took a screenshot from University of Waterloo.
00:18:01.920For position one, we're looking for all areas of artificial intelligence.
00:18:06.920The call is open only to qualified individuals who self-identify as women, transgender, gender fluid, non-binary, or two-spirit.
00:18:17.920And then for the second position, all areas of computer science, the call is open only to qualified individuals who self-identify as a member of racialized minority.
00:18:27.920I mean, it would be problematic if it was just racialized minority, but it's if you self-identify as a racialized minority.
00:18:34.920So if I think that indigenous is the way to gain the system, I stop being a Lebanese Jew.
00:18:41.920I become part of the Mi'kmaq tribe, and I better get that chair professorship.
00:18:46.920That's a really nice way to adjudicate decisions.
00:18:52.920I hate to say that my satire is prophetic, but my satire is prophetic.
00:18:59.920When people would write to me and say, oh, you know, you warned about all these things, but these are just things that are in some esoteric silly humanities department.
00:19:08.920It's never going to happen in neuroscience.
00:19:10.920It's not going to happen in psychology.
00:19:12.920It's not going to happen in engineering.
00:19:13.920It's not going to happen in medicine or in physics or chemistry.
00:19:16.920I say, oh, it's going to happen in all those.
00:19:18.920And let me preempt it by showing you how it's going to happen in mathematics, which by definition,
00:19:23.920if there ever was a field that where your identity could not matter, it would be in mathematics, right?
00:19:30.920It's an axiomatic closed system, right?
00:19:34.920There is no Lebanese Jewish way to study distribution of prime numbers, right?
00:19:39.920There is no algebraic topology that's indigenous.
00:19:45.920And so I released the clip wearing my super woke wig, and I argued that there is now going to be a new field called social justice mathematics.
00:19:57.920And I, because I have a mathematics background, I took, so I said, we need to stop using words like irrational numbers,
00:20:04.920because that marginalizes mental illness.
00:20:06.920We need to stop with the inequality operator, because that creates an ableist.
00:21:50.920The five-year strategic plan was just released, passed around to the entire university.
00:21:57.920The number one item in our strategic plan, this, I swear this is not, I'm not being satirical.
00:22:07.920As a matter of fact, I brought literally the screenshots, is to decolonize and indigenize all of our curriculum.
00:22:16.920So irrespective of which field you're in, so I teach psychology of decision making, consumer psychology, evolutionary psychology, behavioral decision theory,
00:22:26.920I need to now, you know, in my best honest effort, find ways to decolonize and indigenize evolutionary psychology.
00:22:35.920And everyone should be doing it, whether you're teaching Shakespeare, or you're in Judaic studies, or you're in neuroscience, that is the fundamental principle.
00:22:45.920Because, you know, in the past, indigenous people in Canada were treated badly.
00:23:22.920Or Tekani Teotati Kaswanta, an ethical framework for how colonial settler governments are to conduct themselves and on and on and on.
00:23:32.920So I need to read that ethical statement and see, you know, do some introspection and see how I can implement all that within all of my teaching and future research.
00:23:41.920This is my interest, some of the students who are physicists here.
00:23:48.920We have, I think it's a $500,000 grant from the Canadian government to decolonize light.
00:23:56.920Light, as a physics phenomenon, needs to be indigenized and decolonized.
00:24:03.920We have $500,000, if any of you are interested.
00:27:29.920I mean, I work under the premise that there are certain universal truths.
00:27:32.920For example, evolutionary psychology does purport that there is, there are some human universals
00:27:38.920that you can find in the Yanomomo tribe in the Amazon, and you can find in Detroit, Michigan in the 1950s, and you can find it in Ithaca today.
00:28:14.920So then she says that there is some Japanese tribe off some Japanese island where within the folkloric realm, it is the men who bear children.
00:28:23.920So by you restricting it to the material biological realm, that's how you keep us, you know, barefoot and pregnant.
00:28:30.920So after I recovered from the mini stroke I had at listening to this, I said, okay, well, let me, maybe it was too controversial when I, you know, tried to tackle something as corrosive as only women bear children.
00:28:44.920So let me take a slightly less controversial example.
00:28:47.920Is it not true that within any vantage point on Earth, sailors have relied on the premise that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west?
00:28:59.920So here she used a variant of postmodernism called deconstructionism by Jacques Derrida.
00:29:06.920Deconstructionism argues that language creates reality.
00:29:09.920There is no reality outside that which you name.
00:29:12.920So then she says, what do you mean by east and west?
00:29:18.920That which you call the sun, I might call dancing hyena.
00:29:22.920I said, well, fine, the dancing hyena rises in the east and sets in the west.
00:29:27.920And she said, no, I don't play those label games.
00:29:29.920Now why, why did that story become such an infamous story in the lore of postmodernism?
00:29:38.920Because if I can't find an intersection of meaning with a graduate student at a leading university in Canada, where we can agree that a sexually reproducing species, it is the women who bear children.
00:29:54.920And there is such a thing as the sun, you know, the one where we had the polar eclipse yesterday, the dancing hyena eclipse.
00:30:01.920So if I can't agree with you on that, it's a dead end.
00:31:28.920Little boys are taught to play, you know, rough and tumble with the trucks and the guns.
00:31:33.920Little girls are taught to play in a nurturing way with the pink doll.
00:31:37.920And there goes the cascade of gender role specialization.
00:31:40.920And so if I want to prove to the most hostile audience of social constructivists that toy preferences are actually biological based, how would I go about doing that?
00:31:54.920This is called, this is something that I talk about in chapter seven of the parasitic mind.
00:31:59.920So this is called a nomological network of cumulative evidence.
00:32:04.920For anybody who's here who's a student or a professor, if you don't retain anything else from my talk today, I hope you retain many things, then certainly retain this epistemological powerhouse.
00:32:16.920What a, what a nomological network of cumulative evidence does is it says, what is all of the evidence that I could amass across time, across cultures, across species, across methodologies, across theoretical frameworks, so that I can triangulate the veracity of my position.
00:32:37.920It's a lot more than merely a literature review.
00:32:43.920So let me, I won't go through the entire, the entire network, but so I want to prove to you that there is a biological basis of court preferences.
00:33:00.920Well, I can show you that children who are too young to be socialized, in other words, by definition, they haven't yet reached the cognitive developmental stage to be socialized, already exhibit those sex-specific court preferences.
00:33:16.920They're three months old, six months old.
00:33:18.920They couldn't have been socialized, but they already exhibit.
00:33:21.920So even if I stopped the network right here, I pretty much already put a death nail in your coffin, but I'm not going to stop there.
00:33:29.920How about I get you data from clinical endocrinology showing you that little girls who suffer from congenital adrenal hyperplasia, that's a mouthful, which basically means that their behaviors and their morphology, because they have an endocrinological problem, becomes masculinized.
00:33:48.920So girls who suffer from CAH, guess what happens to their court preferences?
00:33:56.920Now it's starting to look bad for the social destructiveness, but I'm not going to stop there.
00:34:00.920How about I get you data from other species?
00:34:04.920How about I get you data from vervet monkeys, and rhesus monkeys, and chimpanzees, showing you that they exhibit the exact same sex specificity of court preferences as human infants?
00:34:15.920Well, you're going to have to now really use a lot of mental gymnastics to argue that the baby rhesus monkey has patriarchal parents who are teaching him gender stereotypes.
00:40:15.920She stutters and says, well, I'm not a biologist, so how could I answer that?
00:40:21.920Again, the 117 billion people who had existed until this confirmation hearing seem to be able to navigate through choosing who's male or female in reproducing.
00:40:39.920But the fact that she's existing in a lunatic epistemological world where she doesn't have the confidence to say, what kind of insane question is that?
00:41:12.920So the fact that that person has been so unstable in the ground that they're standing on, to have to get the imprimatur of a professor to tell them who menstruates, tells you that it's parasitic, it's a problem.
00:44:59.920This is at the recent anthropology meetings, the Canadian and U.S. Anthropological Society.
00:45:08.920So this is the premier anthropologist meetings.
00:45:12.920But they ended up canceling a session and deeply apologizing because there were five female anthropologists who wanted to argue that there are many cases in archaeology and anthropology where it makes perfect sense to be studying this thing called biological sex.
00:45:34.920Let's say when you're doing archaeological excavations where you can tell through forensic anthropology if it's a male or female.
01:02:09.920And then finally, science, reason, and logic, and commitment to evidence-based thinking,
01:02:13.920Trump ideology, hurt-fearing feelings, and all that other full-intellectual gibberish.
01:02:19.920Now, this one is not meant to simply be a frivolous attempt to promote my current book, which is a book on happiness.
01:02:27.920I read this because it is so powerful.
01:02:29.920It's in the epigraph of one of the chapters where I talk about the importance of resilience and anti-fragility of failure.
01:02:41.920This is a quote by the Stoic philosopher Seneca.
01:02:45.920And so, I guess I'll read it and I'll just explain it briefly.
01:02:50.920No tree which the wind does not often blow against is firm and strong, for it is stiffened by the very act of being shaken and plants its roots more securely.
01:02:58.920Those which grow in a sheltered valley are brittle.
01:04:20.920To criticize Islam does not make you an Islamophobe, an unsensible term, nor a hater of individual Muslims.
01:04:27.920To scrutinize radical feminism does not make you a misogynist.
01:04:31.920To question open borders does not make you a racist.
01:04:34.920You can have an open heart filled with empathy and compassion and yet reject open borders.
01:04:39.920To assert that trans women, i.e. biological males, should not be competing in athletic competitions with biological females does not make you a transphobe.
01:04:49.920Many situations in life involve a capitalist of competing rights.
01:04:53.920With that in mind, the right of your eight-year-old daughter to feel comfortable and safe in a public bathroom supersedes that of a 230 pound, 6 foot 2 trans woman.
01:05:05.920To reject the idea that so-called other forms of knowing, whether the indigenous way of knowing or postmodernism, are as valid as the scientific method does not make you a close-minded bigot.
01:05:16.920To reject the hysterical demonization of white men as exemplars of toxic masculinity and white supremacy does not make you Adolf Hitler.
01:05:25.920The name-calling accusations are locked and loaded threats, ready to be deployed against people who are too afraid to be accused of being racist or misogynist, and so they cower in silence.
01:05:38.920Keep your mouth shut and not in agreement, or else be prepared to be feathered and tarred.
01:05:44.920Don't fall prey to this silencing strategy. Be assured in your principles and stand ready to defend them with the ferocity of Mahani Badja.
01:06:12.920I have a question about an article I should read in one of my political philosophy classes, written by Professor Kate Mann here at the Cornell Philosophy Department.
01:06:21.920It was in 2015, and she laid out a case for trigger warnings and why professors should put trigger warnings in their syllabi, should offer them in their slide presentations, and she paints trigger warnings in a pretty benign light.
01:06:35.920She says that really it's just a warning for students before providing some type of explicit content.
01:06:42.920And she says she agrees with the concept of open inquiry and debate that you laid out here today, but says in order to reach that point, there need to be trigger warnings so that students can rationally engage with the subject.
01:06:58.920I'm not sure if you've read the article, but I think that lays it out pretty well.
01:07:02.920Yeah, I mean I haven't read, I don't think I've read that specific article, but I've read several positions on why trigger warnings are necessary.
01:07:08.920So at one point I facetiously had a trigger warning for my MBA class.
01:07:13.920It was called trigger warning, life is your trigger warning.
01:08:15.920So does she think that, so if I were discussing war, there should be a trigger warning for that.
01:08:21.920If I discuss miscarriage, trigger warning.
01:08:24.920If I discuss criminality, trigger warning.
01:08:26.920If I discuss in my evolution psychology courses, child abuse, how step parents are much more likely to commit child abuse, trigger warning.
01:08:33.920If I want to discuss marital infidelity, trigger warning.
01:08:37.920So there is almost nothing of any consequence or value that I could ever lecture on any topic that is of any value that doesn't require trigger warning.
01:11:56.920But in a sentence here, you have a reference which is, to assert that a trans woman, parentheses, biological males should not be competing yad yad yad.
01:12:05.920So you're doing the distinction here that women when used with the qualifier trans woman, it's something different than what we would consider biological sex, male and female.
01:12:18.920Do you recognize that there is a distinction between the gender signifier of the word woman that can be used without disqualifying biological sex?
01:12:30.920There is a thing called gender dysphoria and it existed in the DSM, right?
01:12:35.920That doesn't mean that if you're gender dysphoric, you get to assert the biological marker woman, right?
01:12:53.920And by me not being able to play handball or soccer with other women, even though I'm a male who identifies a woman, you're transgressing against my rights.
01:13:06.920How about the rights of all the biological women against whom you're playing?
01:13:12.920So if you're a feminist who is into women's rights, how do you navigate through the calculus of that conundrum?
01:13:18.920Do transgender rights supersede the rights of the woman who would have been on the podium, who was taken off the podium because 6'4 woman Leah Thomas decided that she's a female?
01:13:33.920So I think that there's a lot more nuance than the way that you framed that, but it's also, I would say, kind of irrelevant to what my question was.
01:13:48.920I do think, I think that we can have a positive discourse about whether or not trans individuals should be, what types of sports they can be competing in.
01:13:57.920I think that there is such thing as an unfair biological advantage.
01:14:00.920Are just, in day-to-day life, what, is there really any harm, I guess, in saying that a trans woman can be a woman?
01:14:09.920Yes, a trans woman is still biologically male, but woman refers to the social construct of gender, not biological sex.
01:14:16.920If you call yourself whatever you want, once it infringes on the rights of others, then we have a problem, right?
01:14:22.920So you want me to call you a woman in the privacy of our dyadic conversation? Great.
01:14:28.920In other words, I don't go out of my way nor do I espouse that other people be frivolously mean to transgender people, right?
01:14:35.920So, if a student came up to me and said, you know, I used to be Bob and my name is Linda, then I'm going to say, okay, maybe I just need to respect their thing and I'll try my best to honor that.
01:14:45.920But once we step on the field where now your self-identity somehow is more important than the rights of every other biological woman, then that's a moral question that we need to navigate.
01:14:58.920I think that no, transgender rights don't supersede biological women's rights.
01:15:03.920Professor Saad, thank you so much for the great event.
01:15:13.920I must apologize if my question was answered in a book.
01:15:17.920I expected the books to arrive by the weekend, but I got them today, so I didn't get a chance to finish them.
01:15:25.920Nevertheless, it's about limitation of science.
01:15:27.920You mentioned that reason, science, that approach would essentially be the cure for the parasite on the campus.
01:15:37.920But do you see the limitations of science and how can science answer the question where would we need to start conducting an experiment, right?
01:16:40.920And therefore, they shouldn't have to be competing with each other.
01:16:44.920There's a bunch of stuff that science does really well, and there's a bunch of stuff that religion does really well, and they don't have to overlap.
01:16:50.920Other people who are non-accommodationists would say, no, there is nothing that's outside the purview of the scientific method, right?
01:17:04.920As a matter of fact, there's many, many evolutions that have studied the evolution of moral systems, right?
01:17:09.920And usually the religious folks say, no, there couldn't be an evolutionary mechanism that led to our moral calculus.
01:17:17.920But there is no epistemological reason to think that.
01:17:19.920So I happen to be someone who understands the value of religion as long as it doesn't impede in explaining things that are contrary to science, right?
01:17:31.920So for example, if a geologist says that this is the age of this rock, and that contradicts a young Earth creationist,
01:17:40.920now the young Earth creationist is impeding on scientific facts that are clear, and he's violating that.
01:17:47.920Therefore, I say religion has to bow down.
01:17:50.920But if there are other things that religion offers you, you know, an understanding of the afterlife, which science can't, well then, good for you.
01:25:19.920But again, if every person has exactly that thought, then here I stand, as Martin Luther did, and I'm the only guy speaking.
01:25:30.920But if suddenly you've, now, by the way, you don't have to be a martyr.
01:25:34.920You could, for example, maybe you're going to the pub privately with four of your friends, maybe raise it there.
01:25:40.920So we can each decide how to modulate the risk.
01:25:44.920But what I implore everybody to do is simply not say, I'm not going to do it because my selfish career interests are too important to put myself on the line.
01:25:55.920If each of us do that, we lose. But if someone says, you know what, I've had enough of this.
01:25:59.920And then he gets up and then I give courage to her and him and him.
01:26:03.920Suddenly there's strength in number and we will reverse it.
01:27:22.920And we talked about this today at lunch.
01:27:24.920One of the reasons that it's really worrisome to see some of these parasitic ideas being introduced earlier and earlier is precisely because the ideologues understand that young children don't have the cognitive inoculation against a lot of this nonsense.
01:27:47.920I appeared on a show, a British show actually, hosted by a psychiatrist.
01:27:51.920And at the end of the show, he asked me a question which surprisingly in all the years that I've been doing this, no one, I don't think anyone had ever asked me.
01:27:59.920He said, in your 30 years as a professor, what is the singular thing that has most surprised you about human behavior?
01:28:27.920Because my nomological networks is saying, if you at least grant me the courtesy to show you the nomological network, I could flip you.
01:28:35.920But if you go, la, la, la, I don't want the vaccine, I could never get to you.
01:28:40.920And so one of the things that I struggle with is when to walk away from a person knowing that no amount of nomological network is ever born.
01:28:51.920So I've become, I think, pretty good at quickly gauging if there is an opportunity for us to dialogue or else I just walk away.
01:29:12.920You mentioned that there has to be a balance of rights.
01:29:13.920And I think that's where all of the most interesting questions lie.
01:29:14.920But I see that often you focus on arguments of people that you consider having like a parasitic mind.
01:29:19.920And I know those people are very ubiquitous and have very simplistic and hypocritical beliefs.
01:29:29.920But I find that those are often like the most low-hanging fruit.
01:29:30.920And that there are often very interesting balance of rights questions that you can describe and talk about.
01:29:36.920And many of the quotes of like the people that you showed are clearly ridiculous like positions that are very easily defeated.
01:29:43.920But many of those positions are actually very interesting and do follow some sort of balance of rights question that you can go into and research or discuss.
01:29:58.920But do you often, do you take the time to actually seek out those more difficult discussions on those each individual topics that are often, people have very simplistic positions on?
01:30:13.920So give me an example of a more what you call balance versus the low-hanging fruit.
01:30:33.920For example, the one about Twitter censoring the Hunter Biden laptop, sorry.
01:30:38.920The position you put is something like it was good because it prevented Trump from getting power.
01:30:48.920But there's a much more interesting case of like, you can see in like the Twitter files where they're discussing the different topics of whether this counts as some sort of like hack materials policy.
01:31:01.920There's much, and is this something that should be posted or propagated?
01:31:06.920Like if somebody found news of your loved one, would you want that to be shareable in the platform to the public?
01:31:14.920That could be an interesting question where it's a balance of rights versus the simplistic, hey, they just want to divide into it.
01:31:23.920So you're saying there might be multiple causes or factors that we have to look at doing?
01:31:27.920Of course that's true, but to that question of the Hunter Biden, most people weren't saying, well, there's really a nuanced reason why.
01:31:35.920Most people who were openly stating why it was perfectly reasonable to suppress it did not go into all the nuanced arguments you're talking about.
01:31:45.920But do you take the time to like seek out the more difficult challenges to that particular topic?
01:31:50.920Like I feel like it's very easy to like point out like a very common problem of people having very simplistic, very like having positions just to benefit their side or political team.
01:32:04.920But a lot of these topics are very interesting.
01:32:06.920So as one of my former professors at Cornell said when I asked him a question, he said to me, you know, Gad, I am capable of complex thought.
01:33:34.920Looking at the history of the university here in America, maybe starting from Harvard and how Harvard started and, you know, where Harvard is today, which I believe you include in your own critique as having been infected with a parasitic mindset as well.
01:34:01.920It took a lot of time for the universities to be where they are today.
01:34:10.920And you seem to be very optimistic of the fact that there is a solution based on the profile solution that you gave.
01:34:23.920Since it took this long to get to this place.
01:35:20.920I mean reason, science, logic, common sense, reality.
01:35:25.920These parasitic ideas are only alluring because they free us.
01:35:31.920So I talk about this in the person like mine.
01:35:33.920They free us from the shackles of reality, right?
01:35:36.920Postmodernism frees me from the shackles of there being even a truth, right?
01:35:42.920Transgender activism frees me from the reality of my genitalia.
01:35:47.920Radical feminism frees me from the innate sex differences that men and women exhibit.
01:35:53.920So each of these parasitic ideas cater to a need for me to escape from the pesky shackles of reality.
01:36:01.920As long as you're willing to come to the stock, hear me out, read the book, I think there is optimism.
01:36:08.920So I truly believe that we can flip it around.
01:36:10.920It won't be overnight, but it won't take as long as how long it took us to get here.
01:36:15.920So it'll be shorter, but it requires work.
01:36:19.920It requires for all of you to speak out, get engaged, and hopefully we can turn the ship.
01:36:24.920And thank you for the comment about the humor.
01:36:26.920It's, you know, it's funny because oftentimes when I'm, I'll just end with this, Randy.
01:36:31.920Oftentimes when I'm approached by someone in the street, 7 out of 10 times it'll be about my humor more than about something professorial.
01:36:42.920Which exactly speaks to your point because humor is a very, very powerful way to disarm people, to make them stop and listen to you, to connect with you.
01:36:53.920That's why, as I mentioned earlier to Randy, dictators will usually first eliminate the satirists, the humorists.
01:37:04.920Because they're the ones who've got the real power.
01:37:07.920It's the power of their stinging tongue.
01:37:09.920It's the power of their pen that will flip the dictator.
01:37:13.920They don't care about the tall guys with the big muscles.