The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - Piers Morgan vs Prof. Gad Saad- Sydney Sweeney, Elon Musk, & Cultural Insanity (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_687)

00:00:00.080 The woke mind virus is arguably the greatest existential threat that humanity faces.

00:00:05.280 If you have the chance to sit down with arguably one of the most sought after people in the world,

00:00:12.320 then maybe you should approach it with a bit of pragmatism.

00:00:15.360 If AI does become sentient, it really could be Armageddon, couldn't it?

00:00:19.440 I think Elon and I see eye to eye when we say that much bigger than the COVID virus

00:00:25.840 are the mind viruses that are burrowing in our brains.

00:00:28.320 Dan Saad is a professor, a best-selling author, an expert in evolutionary psychology,

00:00:34.160 probably best known for scathing and sardonic rebukes of contemporary cultural insanity. 0.98

00:00:39.440 Men now who have nine-inch penises can be women. 1.00

00:00:42.320 They simply have to declare themselves women and voila, they become women. 0.99

00:00:45.520 Millions enjoy his sarcastic diatribes on X. Elon Musk counts himself as a fan.

00:00:50.400 And amid the fallout from Musk's disastrous interview with Don Lemon...

00:00:53.760 Do you believe that X and you have some responsibility to moderate

00:00:57.600 hate speech on the platform?

00:00:58.800 I don't have to answer questions from the reporters.

00:01:00.960 Don, the only reason I'm doing this interview is because you're on the X platform and you asked for it.

00:01:05.200 The Hollywood backlash to Jonathan Glazer renouncing his Jewishness,

00:01:08.640 and a cultural dispute about Sidney Sweeney, author of The Parasitic Mind,

00:01:12.800 how infectious ideas are killing common sense, returns to Uncentred.

00:01:16.160 Gag, great to have you back. How are you?

00:01:22.160 Thank you. I'm doing well, Piers. I'm still waiting for those invitations to go watch an Arsenal game together.

00:01:27.680 I'm sure they're coming any time.

00:01:28.480 You know what? We're going to win the Premier League and you must come.

00:01:31.520 I will definitely keep my word on that.

00:01:34.960 Gag, let's start with this. I want to start with Jonathan Glazer.

00:01:37.920 So this was a moment at the Oscars, probably the only political moment, actually, that happened all night.

00:01:42.800 So you've got this guy who's an Oscar-winning director, and in his acceptance speech, he says this.

00:01:48.720 All our choices were made to reflect and confront us in the present,

00:01:52.960 not to say, look what they did then, rather, look what we do now.

00:01:57.120 Our film shows where dehumanisation leads at its worst. It shaped all of our past and present.

00:02:02.560 Right now, we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation

00:02:09.200 which has led to conflict for so many innocent people. Whether the victims of October...

00:02:14.240 So it's interesting. There was an outbreak of applause, but not by everyone, by any means.

00:02:20.160 And there's now been an open letter response. I think over a thousand people have now signed this.

00:02:25.920 And it says, we are Jewish creatives, executives and Hollywood professionals.

00:02:29.280 We refute our Jewishness being hijacked for the purpose of drawing a moral equivalence between

00:02:34.720 a Nazi regime that sought to exterminate a race of people and an Israeli nation that seeks to avert 0.77

00:02:40.880 its own extermination. So you've got a lot of backlash there to what Jonathan Glazer said.

00:02:45.840 First of all, your reaction to that speech he made.

00:02:50.560 So let me contextualise it by giving a few similar situations that have taken place.

00:02:56.320 Several years ago, a doctoral student at Hebrew University, a Jewish doctoral student

00:03:01.040 by the name of Tal Nitzan, was trying to demonstrate through her research that the IDF engages in rampant

00:03:08.240 rape of Palestinian women. She did the research and to her dismay, she found out that there wasn't a

00:03:14.640 single documented case of an IDF soldier raping a Palestinian woman. You know what she concluded,

00:03:20.880 Pierce? She concluded that the IDF soldiers are so grotesque in their dehumanisation that they're not

00:03:27.600 even willing to rape a Palestinian woman. So if they had raped the women, they're evil. And if they 0.99

00:03:34.560 don't rape any women, they're evil. That's what parasitic self-loathing is. Here's one more example. 1.00

00:03:41.920 There's a gentleman in Norway that had been raped by a Somali immigrant in 2011, 0.67

00:03:47.280 a man who had been sodomised by a Somali immigrant. When that Somali immigrant was going to be deported, 0.81

00:03:53.920 the Norwegian man felt very, very guilty that he would now have a bad life in Somalia.

00:04:00.000 So this is what Jonathan Glazer is doing. He's basically saying, please believe me that I am

00:04:04.880 a virtuous, progressive person. And in doing so, I'm rejecting my Jewish identity. You could be 0.93

00:04:11.120 empathetic towards the innocent killing of any people without rejecting your identity. He's grotesque. 0.96

00:04:16.720 I mean, his movie was about the Holocaust. He says he's been misrepresented as to what he was

00:04:23.120 saying. And I guess the overview in defense of him is, have we now reached a point where you can't,

00:04:29.840 as a Jewish person, criticise Israel and its government and its actions in response to October

00:04:36.880 the 7th without effectively looking like you're being disloyal to Jewish people?

00:04:41.600 No, I think it's perfectly fair to criticise endless Israeli policies. That's what makes it 0.98

00:04:47.920 a vibrant democracy. But to say that I reject my Jewishness, listen, the people who wanted to kill

00:04:54.800 us when I grew up in Lebanon wouldn't have cared about beheading me whether I rejected my Jewishness

00:05:01.440 or not. If he had been at that music festival and said, hey guys, Hamas, don't kill me. I reject 0.80

00:05:07.840 my Jewishness. They wouldn't have listened and been sympathetic to him. So you could both chew gum and

00:05:14.160 walk at the same time. You could criticise Israeli policies all you want without comparing what's

00:05:19.440 happening now in Israel and Gaza to the Holocaust, which is an offensive comparison, or in rejecting your

00:05:25.520 own identity, which you should be proud of. What is your view of where we are with this war right now?

00:05:32.160 Look, it's tragic. People think that, oh, I am pro-genocide and all this kind of stuff. I've got

00:05:37.120 more Muslim friends than most people will ever meet. Any innocent person that is ever killed

00:05:42.320 unnecessarily is a grotesque injustice, cosmically. But the reality is we have to look at what started

00:05:49.920 all this, right? People have what I call amnesia of causality. They no longer remember that October 7th

00:05:56.160 happened, right? Had we been today where we were on October 6th, none of this would have ever happened.

00:06:01.920 And so, listen, you mess around, you find out what happened. It's regrettable that people are dying.

00:06:07.360 But if the Palestinians were to existentially be willing to accept the fact that they're going to 1.00

00:06:13.840 have Jewish neighbours, I think this problem would be solved in the future. 1.00

00:06:17.440 But that suggests that most Palestinians would be supportive of a two-state solution or living

00:06:24.080 side by side peacefully alongside Jewish people. There's not much evidence that that is actually

00:06:29.360 the case. I mean, Hamas still maintains huge support in all the polling from the majority of Palestinians.

00:06:37.120 Listen, there is a Pew survey that came out several years ago that looked at the rate of

00:06:44.000 Jew hatred from many of these countries, Egypt, my homeland of Lebanon, Palestinian territories,

00:06:51.920 Syria, and so on. And you have rates of endemic Jew hatred that vary from 95 to 99%. So we're not

00:06:59.440 talking about an anomalous group of three out of a hundred that hate the Jews. The great majority 1.00

00:07:05.920 express hatred of the Jews, not Zionists, of Jews. And so as long as you have that ideological reality,

00:07:13.120 you will never have peace. Once you get rid of that hatred, there is such richness in that region

00:07:18.640 so that it will truly flourish.

00:07:19.760 Can you bomb, bomb, bomb a very small area like Gaza, where 50% of the population are under 18, 0.99

00:07:29.120 killing thousands and thousands of children, and not expect there to be ongoing massive problems in

00:07:37.440 terms of an ideological hatred of those who've done this?

00:07:41.120 I agree. It's almost an intractable problem. If they were to do nothing, that would be a problem.

00:07:46.800 If they respond in the rather ferocious way that they have, they're going to lose the court of public

00:07:54.800 opinion. So really, they truly are behind the proverbial rock and a hard place in that if they were to

00:08:03.040 mitigate their response, that wouldn't be optimal. And if they respond maximally the way they are,

00:08:08.080 endless innocent people are going to die. So I don't have a clear solution for that. I mean,

00:08:12.240 do you have any better solution than anything that Israel is doing? 0.83

00:08:15.600 Well, this has been my refrain from the very start of this, which is,

00:08:19.520 I don't know what is proportionate for a response. If you are wedded to the idea of eliminating Hamas, 0.91

00:08:27.040 a terror group of about 30 to 35,000 terrorists, if you're wedded to doing that, and you have the

00:08:32.960 vast support as Netanyahu and his government do from Israeli people to do that, and Hamas are 0.90

00:08:38.720 embedded amongst civilian population in the way that they clearly are, I don't know how you achieve 0.98

00:08:44.640 that mission endgame without what they're doing and the inevitable casualties that come with it with

00:08:51.600 civilians. The question is, is that going to be the right way to gain peace and security after all

00:08:59.680 this? And that's where I have a real issue with what Israel's doing, because they're losing

00:09:03.920 international support very quickly, even the support of the Americans, right to the highest level,

00:09:08.720 the president. And by flattening most of Gaza and killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians,

00:09:16.640 as well as Hamas terrorists, and now pushing them all into a refugee camp where you're now 0.85

00:09:22.080 planning to attack that as well. I just don't know how this doesn't all just end very, very badly,

00:09:28.800 an almighty social and political mess. And I see no prospect of peace anytime soon in my lifetime.

00:09:38.800 Regrettably, and I hate to say it because I'm a very optimistic guy, a very jovial guy,

00:09:43.200 a guy who wrote a book on happiness. I share your pessimism. And I'm very, very regretful to say

00:09:48.400 so. But I think I share your view. It's very sad. Let's move on to something which is more kind

00:09:53.600 of entertaining, I think, than something we should take too seriously. But Don Lemon, who, full

00:09:59.520 disclosure, I worked at CNN with him when I worked there. In fact, he got my old office when I left.

00:10:04.160 But I've always got on fire with Don. He got fired by CNN. Elon Musk rise to the rescue like the cavalry,

00:10:12.320 says, I'll give you a show on X, pays him a few million dollars to do this. And I know some of the

00:10:18.000 team Don has. They used to work with me. All seemed very, very positive for Don and a great comeback story

00:10:25.120 for him. And then he decided to do Elon Musk, the owner, obviously, of X as his first guest. Elon agrees.

00:10:31.440 And it all goes horribly wrong. And this is one of the many awkward moments in the interview.

00:10:37.440 Hate speech on the platform is up. Do you believe that X and you have some responsibility to moderate

00:10:45.260 hate speech on the platform? That you wouldn't have to answer these questions from reporters about the

00:10:50.100 great replacement theory as it relates to Democrats? I don't have to answer these questions.

00:10:52.560 Great replacement theory as it relates to Jewish people. Do you think that? 0.98

00:10:56.260 I don't have to answer questions from reporters. Don, the only reason I'm doing this interview is

00:10:59.900 because you're on the X platform and you ask for it. Otherwise, I would not do this interview.

00:11:05.740 So you don't think you do you think that you wouldn't get in trouble or you wouldn't be

00:11:08.780 criticized for these things? I'm criticized constantly. I could care less.

00:11:13.120 You know, what was interesting to me, Gab, was I had an interview with Elon lined up in early January,

00:11:18.540 which he canceled at the last minute when he discovered from a random tweet, actually,

00:11:24.740 by somebody who tweeted this. It was a clip from an interview I'd done a month before with a guy called

00:11:29.380 Zuby. And we were debating whether Elon should have let Alex Jones back onto the platform.

00:11:35.400 The guy who, of course, defamed all the Sandy Hook parents. Now, I covered that story in America at the

00:11:40.560 time. I was very personally invested in it. We'd had a similar thing in Britain with 16 children killed

00:11:46.540 in Dunblane in Scotland. I was a newspaper editor at the time. I led a campaign to have a lot of guns

00:11:52.200 banned in Britain, which happened. And we've not had a mass shooting pretty much since then.

00:11:57.260 I think there's been one mass shooting in the next 30 or so years. And I'm very proud of that. 0.96

00:12:02.580 So this was personal to me, albeit in a country where the culture is very different when it comes

00:12:08.140 to guns. But I then cut forward to Alex Jones and what he said about the Sandy Hook families,

00:12:13.940 pouring misery onto their grief and ending up with a billion dollar defamation finding against him.

00:12:20.920 And I thought for all those reasons, Elon's original instinct, which was to not let him

00:12:26.540 back on X when he was first asked about it, was correct. And his decision to reverse that was

00:12:31.960 wrong. Now, I didn't think that was particularly contentious, nor would it be remotely surprising

00:12:36.500 to anybody who'd followed me reporting on the story before or Alex Jones. Alex Jones had a petition

00:12:41.860 to have me deported from America, literally wanted me cancelled from the entire country.

00:12:47.440 So I felt all was fair in love and war. But Elon said, no, I've lost respect for you. I'm

00:12:53.460 cancelling out our interview, despite never having met me. And I only tell that story again,

00:12:58.320 because it kind of puts into context what went down with Don Lemon. I think Elon is a genius.

00:13:04.380 I think he's one of the smartest people in the world. He's certainly one of the richest and most

00:13:08.360 successful. I think generally he's a force for good. I think if you look at Tesla, SpaceX,

00:13:12.560 and the way he's trying to go about making X a genuine platform of free speech, I'm completely

00:13:18.640 supportive of him in these missions. But he clearly does have a very thin skin. And when I watched

00:13:25.700 large swathes of that interview with Don Lemon, Don Lemon did that interview exactly how I expected

00:13:31.120 Don Lemon to do it. I'm just surprised that Elon was taken by surprise.

00:13:36.180 Well, so I don't presume to speak for Elon, although we have, I'm happy to report, become

00:13:43.800 good friends, very friendly. We chatted recently and so on. Look, I'm not sure that Elon has a

00:13:50.980 thick skin. I think he's got a huge bullseye on him. He gets attacked more times than a human mind

00:13:57.480 could fathom. And he proceeds to be a very productive and as you said, a historically important

00:14:02.920 person. Now, from my perspective, if you have the chance to sit down with arguably one of the most

00:14:09.560 sought after people in the world, then maybe you should approach it with a bit of pragmatism,

00:14:15.500 right? There is a smugness. There is an entitlement. There is an obnoxiousness. There is a oozing

00:14:21.860 chutzpah. And you don't have to be a fancy evolutionary psychologist to pick that up in Don Lemon.

00:14:26.820 So if I were sitting, and I'm also someone who's not particularly thin-skinned, but I do have honor,

00:14:32.740 I would be pissed if I'm giving you my very valuable time and you don't use it in a more

00:14:37.420 appropriate manner, right? When I sat down with Elon, we were joking around, but we also discussed some

00:14:43.140 very interesting things. But the reason why he was relaxed is because he knew that there was not going

00:14:49.460 to be a gotcha moment. I just want to explore your brilliant mind. Let's have a fun, instructive

00:14:55.540 conversation. And from that perspective, I think that Don blew it.

00:14:59.460 You know, the irony is that's exactly the kind of interview I wanted to have with Elon. And I've

00:15:03.840 messaged him saying, look, can we have another go at this? Because I genuinely have always been

00:15:08.980 very supportive of him. It was only the Alex Jones thing. I mean, out of interest, what was your view

00:15:14.600 of Alex Jones? I mean, do you think there should be a limit on the kind of people that are allowed on X?

00:15:18.580 No, I'm actually very much, Pierce, a free speech absolutist. And the example that I like to give

00:15:26.440 is despite my personal history in the Middle East, despite being Jewish, I support the right of 0.82

00:15:31.920 Holocaust deniers to spew their endless nonsense. And so you can't be a free speech absolutist and say,

00:15:40.040 no, but not for this case. I'm a free speech absolutist, but not for Donald Trump. I believe

00:15:45.820 in journalistic integrity, but not when it comes to Hunter Biden's laptop, in which case we should

00:15:50.180 have all colluded to suppress it. That's what a consequentialist ethic is. That's wrong, right?

00:15:55.280 There are certain principles that have to be deontological, meaning they're absolute foundational

00:16:00.240 positions that you never violate, short of the regular caveats. You can't defame,

00:16:05.340 you can't directly incite the violence, right? You could criticize Judaism all you want till pigs fly, 0.99

00:16:10.740 but you can't say, let's go to the corner of 6th and Broadway and kill the Jews when they come out 1.00

00:16:16.400 of the synagogue. Short of that, all bets are off. Anything is allowed to be said and let better 1.00

00:16:22.160 ideas defeat idiotically. What if you've spewed lies about the families of people who had their 0.99

00:16:28.740 children murdered in school? I mean, Elon's initial position on that was he wouldn't let people who

00:16:34.520 stand on the graves of dead children on the platform, who made money on it. So I'm not a lawyer,

00:16:40.260 so I hope I'm not misspeaking, but then wouldn't the mechanism of a lawsuit on defamation be something

00:16:46.200 that would resolve that? So in other words- Well, that's the point. My point was they did sue

00:16:51.020 the families and they won a billion dollars in the defamation case, one of the biggest awards in

00:16:56.460 history. Alex Jones, to date, I don't think has paid a dollar to the families. And just to remind

00:17:02.420 people who may not be familiar with what he did, he deliberately lied about the event being staged

00:17:07.300 by actors and it was all a fake, the government had been behind it and so on. He actually exposed

00:17:13.020 some of the family members to abuse in the streets, to threats. In one case, people turned up at the

00:17:19.160 graveside of one of the poor children who got blown to pieces at school and urinated on the tombstone

00:17:26.160 because they believed the whole thing was a fake. And I just felt that in totality, that that made

00:17:31.720 somebody who should not be given a platform, actually, like X. And I agree with Elon's first

00:17:37.280 view about it. That's why I found his kind of, what I perceive to be an overreaction to

00:17:42.280 cancelling our interview on that one thing, a little bit surprising because to me, there are

00:17:48.540 some limits. I mean, if Adolf Hitler was on X right now, spewing his hateful views of Jewish people,

00:17:55.440 I would assume that Elon Musk would have him removed.

00:17:58.000 It's going to shock you what I'm going to say. By the way, there are endless, on any given day,

00:18:05.660 incredible anti-Semites that come after me. And yet I would never presume to call Elon and say,

00:18:12.140 hey, Elon, you should see the stuff that they're saying about me. Please take them off. And so I

00:18:16.560 walk the walk and I talk the talk. Part of being in a free society is to be able to withstand

00:18:23.000 cretins, falsehood spreaders, liars, racists, Jew haters. Again, as long as you don't defame, 0.99

00:18:30.520 as long as you don't directly incite the violence, all bets are off.

00:18:34.720 I want to play a little clip from your interview with Elon. This is about where he talks about

00:18:39.280 optimism v. pessimism.

00:18:40.880 All of these parasitic ideas originated from the university ecosystem. So can we be optimistic that

00:18:52.200 we could turn this thing around, Elon, or are we just screaming in the wind?

00:18:57.740 Well, I think we have to be optimistic. I agree with my general philosophy is that it's better to be

00:19:03.320 on the side of being optimistic and wrong than pessimistic and right.

00:19:07.320 It was also another bit I like on fame, happiness and money. And you put to him the thesis of your

00:19:14.600 new book, the happiness and money are only linked up to a point below $100,000. And he actually

00:19:21.000 agreed with you, which given he's worth about $250 billion was quite funny. Let's take a listen.

00:19:27.080 In fact, I'd say there's a decrease in happiness that occurs when the fame level exceeds that which

00:19:36.140 is useful. So there's a certain modicum of fame where you can now get, it's easy to get a reservation

00:19:45.900 at a restaurant. That's like you want that level of fame and not anything beyond it.

00:19:53.900 I kind of know what he means. It's like having been anonymous and famous, never as famous as him,

00:20:00.020 obviously, but having experienced both. There's a lot to be said for anonymity. And once you lose it,

00:20:04.260 you never really get it back, however hard you try. And Elon Musk is impossibly famous now,

00:20:10.400 staggeringly rich, the victim of a lot of hate, as you say, and death threats. And I do think he's

00:20:16.180 trying to be a force for good in the world. I think that's his driving, motivating factor.

00:20:22.040 You got an amazing response to a tweet, which Elon retweeted this week. It's had 30 million views.

00:20:28.540 And you just said that illegal immigrants better than legal citizens, criminals better than victims, 0.89

00:20:35.220 squatters better than homeowners, transgender women better than women, twerking drag queens better than 1.00

00:20:40.500 children. And you made the point that if you subscribe to this, then we really are going to 0.70

00:20:45.300 hell in the hanker. Were you taken by surprise by the response?

00:20:48.500 I mean, in the sense that it always amazes me that today you can put out a tweet and 30 million

00:20:56.240 people can view it. I mean, let's contextualize that in comparison to the velocity at which things

00:21:02.020 move in scientific knowledge. If I publish a peer-reviewed paper and it is successful,

00:21:08.180 it means typically, Pierce, that five years after it's published, it might be cited by a hundred other

00:21:15.200 scholars. So I need to work three to five years on a project and go through a very, very rigorous

00:21:21.580 peer-review process to hope that a hundred of my scientific colleagues pay attention to my work.

00:21:27.600 I put up a tweet and it gets shown by 30 million people, which by the way, creates a conundrum for

00:21:33.520 academics like me, because while I remain very much committed to the idea of publishing scientific

00:21:38.920 papers, it's tough to walk away from the influence that you can wield by using social media platforms

00:21:45.020 today. So I try to thread that needle as best as I can.

00:21:48.420 There was one other bit from the interview you did with Elon this week, which I liked.

00:21:52.560 This was about the doomsday scenario. If AI is allowed to continue being obviously transparently

00:21:59.280 woke. Take a listen to this.

00:22:01.660 It's going to be leading to some pretty dangerous and bizarre outcomes. And it could actually,

00:22:09.400 like, if it's been taught, like, that misgendering is worse than a nuclear war, it may decide that

00:22:17.260 to avoid misgendering, it should start a nuclear war. That's like, the surefire way to stop any

00:22:23.220 future misgendering is to kill all humans. 1.00

00:22:25.800 Right. Exactly. 1.00

00:22:27.100 Problem solved. No more misgendering.

00:22:30.360 I mean, he's kind of joking, but he's kind of not. I think if AI does become sentient and

00:22:35.700 it's been guided by very woke minds, human minds to think a certain way, then it really could be

00:22:42.800 Armageddon, couldn't it?

00:22:45.220 Absolutely. And I mean, I think one of the reasons why, you know, my 2020 book, The Parasitic Mind,

00:22:50.000 resonated so much with people is because I basically argue, and I think that's one of the

00:22:54.500 ways that Elon and I first connected. He also argues that the woke mind virus is arguably the

00:23:00.280 greatest existential threat that humanity faces. Because, you know, all of the tragedies that we

00:23:06.060 typically think of originally start off in the mind of some deranged lunatic, right? Whether it be

00:23:12.180 Hitler or whether it be the super progressive academics that have been poisoning the minds of

00:23:17.480 our children, it results in a departure from reason. So I think Elon and I see eye to eye when we say that

00:23:25.060 much bigger than the COVID virus are the mind viruses that are burrowing in our brains.

00:23:31.080 The talking of mind viruses, we've got this big debate at the moment raging about

00:23:35.640 Sidney Sweeney, who's this breakout star, particularly since the recent appearance on

00:23:40.500 Saturday Night Live, and Dylan Mulvaney, who's a breakout star for slightly different reasons.

00:23:46.800 And a meme went viral showing a picture of Sidney Sweeney next to Dylan Mulvaney and asking,

00:23:51.880 which way Western man? To which you responded on X by saying, Sidney Sweeney is breathtaking.

00:23:59.260 So I'll be right in thinking you've taken sides there, Gad. 0.99

00:24:03.880 Well, of course, I have since learned that for me to have picked a woman that had a vagina rather 1.00

00:24:10.480 than a penis made me transphobic. I still couldn't help but allow my biological imperative to find 0.99

00:24:17.480 Sweeney slightly more attractive than the equally beautiful other woman with a penis. 0.99

00:24:22.880 How did your wife respond to your obvious overwhelming adoration of Sidney Sweeney? 0.97

00:24:29.360 We are in negotiations right now to see if I am allowed a hall pass were Sidney Sweeney to become

00:24:36.020 available.

00:24:37.740 I think it might be quite a long queue of men trying to get that hall pass.

00:24:41.160 But it's interesting, the Dylan Mulvaney thing, because I'm pretty cynical about it, I have to say.

00:24:45.360 You've got someone who was an openly self-declared gay man to their mid-twenties,

00:24:50.280 suddenly decides they want to identify as a woman, and then spends the next two years apparently mocking 0.99

00:24:55.840 womanhood and making it sound very imbecilic and pathetic, frankly, including a latest pop video 1.00

00:25:03.120 reaffirming that that's Dylan Mulvaney's view. 0.99

00:25:06.860 What do you think of this? I mean, should we just, as a society, be compelled to go along with this

00:25:12.400 and say, well, obviously, if Dylan Mulvaney says that they're a woman, we should call them she

00:25:18.360 and say they're a woman? Or do we, as a society, say, actually, if you're going to mock women like this 0.98

00:25:23.440 and you were a gay man to your mid-twenties, we're just not having it? 0.99

00:25:26.940 No. As a matter of fact, I appeared, both Jordan Peterson and I appeared in 2017

00:25:31.840 in front of the Canadian Senate, where we exactly warned about the slippery slope that was coming,

00:25:37.460 right? I can be fully empathetic to the rights of people to live free of bigotry, as I do,

00:25:43.720 right? I mean, if you want to be transgender, go for it. But that doesn't mean that you take me 1.00

00:25:48.740 on a ride to celebrate your unique personhood, right? You don't get to remove from my passport

00:25:53.980 my marker as a biological male, because you might be upset because you're a non-binary person that

00:26:00.160 doesn't subscribe to the typical antiquated binary norms, right? So again, I can walk and chew gum at

00:26:06.660 the same time. I can be empathetic to the fact that you should live free of bigotry, but that doesn't

00:26:11.360 mean that I have to orgiastically celebrate your delusion. Yeah, I think I'm with you. Now,

00:26:16.520 as a very female perspective has gone viral on Sydney Sweeney, this is about what women should do

00:26:23.080 to men like yourself, Gad, who may have a slight obsession with Sydney.

00:26:27.380 Aw, your boyfriend has a crush on Sydney Sweeney? You should break up with him so he can go date 0.99

00:26:32.460 her. Oh, he doesn't have a chance with her. Oh, that's not... OK, he doesn't have a chance with

00:26:37.700 her, but he's obsessing over her, even though he has a real-life relationship with you. What a

00:26:42.640 weirdo that he's obsessing over women that he has no chance with, at the expense of his relationship 0.98

00:26:47.840 with you. You should break up. Gad, are you concerned that Mrs. Sad may have seen that

00:26:54.300 clip and got some ideas? Well, I actually, just so that I could be in the clear, when I

00:27:01.100 made the proclamation of my admiration for Sweeney, I retweeted that and I tagged my wife. I don't know

00:27:07.680 if you saw it. That way, if she were to now attack me, I'd say, but sweetie, I was completely

00:27:14.060 open with you. Well, you can't last in a 24-year marriage if you don't know how to

00:27:19.460 be a bit Middle Eastern in your way, so I've got it handled. A bit Middle Eastern. Funny 1.00

00:27:24.340 enough, I had my DNA tested a few years ago and I have got a tiny bit of Middle Eastern

00:27:30.280 in me. Ah, that's why you're good looking. I might try that with my wife and just say, 0.61

00:27:35.840 I'm just using a bit of Middle Eastern, see how that goes down. Let's see. Let me know.

00:27:41.200 Gad, it's great to catch up with you. Please come back again soon. I really

00:27:44.040 enjoyed it. Thank you. That was great. Thank you, Pierce. Take care. All the best.

The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - June 17, 2024

Piers Morgan vs Prof. Gad Saad- Sydney Sweeney, Elon Musk, & Cultural Insanity (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_687)

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