The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - Suicidal Empathy and Deontological Ethics - The Will Cain Show (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad

00:00:00.000 At some point I think you have to take them at their own words. Robert Reich says we should

00:00:03.980 arrest Elon Musk. Brazil outlaws Twitter. Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in their past have said they

00:00:09.400 do not believe in free speech and now in the pages of the New York Times they ask is the

00:00:14.840 constitution dangerous. It's the Will Cain Show streaming live at foxnews.com. On the Fox News

00:00:20.220 YouTube channel the Fox News Facebook page right now comment streaming in on Facebook on YouTube

00:00:24.480 jump in to the Will Cain Show. Hit subscribe at Apple Spotify or on YouTube. He is the author

00:00:30.800 of The Parasitic Mind. He is Professor Gadsad. He's a friend here of the Will Cain Show and these are

00:00:35.820 some of our deepest conversations and I love having him here. What's up professor? Hey how you doing?

00:00:41.540 So good to be with you. It's good to be with you. You know you often are very active on X. You're

00:00:50.380 also what I would say is one of the people who are in the influencer circle of Elon Musk. What do

00:00:58.680 you think now that people are A in America calling for the arrest of Elon Musk? That's Robert Reich. I

00:01:04.540 believe he was labor secretary under Clinton and we're watching Brazil basically outlaw X.

00:01:13.420 Yeah it's unbelievable. Look and I've talked about the distinction between

00:01:17.660 deontological and consequentialist ethics. So let me break it down to you for you because it will be

00:01:23.100 relevant to your question. Deontological ethics are absolute statements. So for example if I say it

00:01:28.100 is never okay to lie that would be a deontological statement. If I say it's okay to lie to spare

00:01:33.620 someone's feelings then that would be a consequentialist statement. Now for many things we're all

00:01:37.920 consequentialist and that makes perfect sense but when it comes to foundational values that define the

00:01:43.640 west those things have to be deontological. So you can't say I believe in freedom of speech but not

00:01:50.380 for Elon Musk or Donald Trump. I believe in presumption of innocence but not for Brett Kavanaugh.

00:01:56.020 I believe in journalistic integrity but not when it came to Hunter Biden's laptop. Once you apply a

00:02:02.760 consequentialist ethics ethic to a deontological position you get the kinds of problems that we're

00:02:09.080 saying to that. So the interesting thing in part about what you had to say is we are all consequentialist

00:02:15.940 to some point and if we're all being honest and we look in the mirror it is it is difficult to be

00:02:21.300 principled meaning we all can give voice to principles but living according to principle is

00:02:26.620 very difficult. That's the challenge of life to be a moral person. When you hear and I'm going to read

00:02:32.520 two of these Abigail Schreier has this up in the the free pass talk they've revisited. Now these are

00:02:37.560 quotes from like this is going to be 2020 I believe for Kamala Harris where she openly advocated for

00:02:46.360 shutting down X and she did it on multiple occasions. I think it was two or three different occasions.

00:02:50.640 I think once from a debate stage once with CNN's Jake Tapper. She openly called for for shutting down

00:02:59.500 X and in Tim Waltz famous statement now his is from 2022 was that free speech does not cover

00:03:05.600 misinformation and disinformation. When you hear something like that from the two people running

00:03:11.120 for president and vice president the question I think is what do they believe and what would they do

00:03:17.300 right. So are they consequentialists. I guess everybody is like they don't believe in a principle

00:03:23.360 against free speech. They just want to apply it when it's in their favor and not apply it when it's in

00:03:28.400 their disfavor. So I guess the question would be what would it. Yeah. Go ahead. No I got you.

00:03:34.300 Sorry to interrupt you. That's right. They're being consequentialists. So what would they be in an

00:03:38.660 administration when it comes to free speech. Well look I am Jewish. I grew up in very difficult

00:03:45.000 circumstances in the Middle East. We faced execution. My parents were kidnapped by Fatah. So you know we

00:03:51.760 we we've seen it all in terms of actual victimhood and yet I support the right of Holocaust deniers to

00:03:58.700 spew the worst of offensive and insulting speeches right. What could be more offensive and what could

00:04:05.000 be more misinformation than to deny a historically documented event whereby six million people were

00:04:14.220 you know extinguished on an industrial scale level. But in a free society you have to tolerate

00:04:20.440 imbeciles, racists, falsehood spreaders and so on. So that's how you walk the walk and talk the talk

00:04:26.240 right. If I a Jewish person with my personal history I'm willing to tolerate Holocaust deniers then

00:04:33.320 Tim Walz and Kamala Harris don't have much of a ethical position to stand on. But again the reason why

00:04:39.560 they do that is because they must find some consequentialist calculus to explain why they need

00:04:45.400 to shut you down right. Don't say that COVID is lab leak because that's misinformation. Don't say

00:04:53.260 whatever that the Hunter Biden laptop was real because then that would allow Donald Trump to

00:04:59.800 ascend for a second term. One person's truth is another person's misinformation. So for example

00:05:05.580 can men menstruate or only women menstruate which is the disinformation position right. So again there is

00:05:14.600 no such thing as forbidden knowledge in science precisely because as long as you adhere to the

00:05:19.320 scientific method all bets are off. You pursue truth unencumbered by consequentialist ethos. So I think

00:05:26.880 what these two are doing is exactly what Orwell warned us against. Maybe it's even worse than what Orwell

00:05:33.500 thought. Well if anybody questioned his intellect just I've been walking around the world saying

00:05:40.500 menstruate. And he just taught us very clearly it's menstruate. That there's a U in there.

00:05:45.380 It's not menstruate. Just a hick from Texas. Also we have this information. Like the whole thing like what would

00:05:52.160 they do? Well they've done it. Like they did it in the Biden administration. We know what they did to suppress

00:05:57.040 free speech. It wasn't just calls to arrest Elon Musk or whatever it may be. And one of the big leaders I was just

00:06:03.740 trying to look this up. So I had this name while I was talking to you. His name is Rob Flaherty.

00:06:09.260 Rob Flaherty was one of the people who was integral to the whole disinformation campaign in the Biden administration.

00:06:18.140 Punishing, identifying, you know, limiting free speech.

00:06:21.680 Okay well you know Rob Flaherty. He's one of the guys for example

00:06:25.120 officials. I'm reading from Abigail Schreier and the Free Pest who reportedly pressured

00:06:29.740 Facebook into censorship with

00:06:33.700 the then director of Biden's digital strategy

00:06:35.880 Rob Flaherty. And who is Rob Flaherty

00:06:38.080 now? Well he is the deputy campaign manager

00:06:40.060 for Kamala Harris. It's not as

00:06:42.040 though this was a moment in time

00:06:43.700 with COVID. A moment in time

00:06:45.820 with 2020 election skepticism.

00:06:48.680 This is someone who has

00:06:50.280 benefited, been

00:06:52.060 promoted in a leadership

00:06:54.140 position for the person now running for president, Kamala

00:06:56.260 Harris. Right. I mean

00:06:57.900 we know what Kamala Harris thinks about

00:07:00.460 the espousing of positions that are

00:07:02.400 unpopular according to her calculus. Right.

00:07:04.740 You saw the clip that's been going around recently where she said you know

00:07:07.900 you can't allow people to just

00:07:10.140 spew whatever they want without

00:07:12.160 any controls or oversight.

00:07:14.660 I mean uttering

00:07:16.160 those words should be enough to

00:07:18.080 disqualify you as president

00:07:19.820 of the United States. But yet again

00:07:22.240 because we now are

00:07:23.780 so inundated with this

00:07:25.940 consequentialist ethos

00:07:27.340 people don't even bat an eye. I mean

00:07:29.680 what could be more dangerous than to

00:07:31.720 say things like

00:07:32.540 there has to be oversight over

00:07:34.840 what people say.

00:07:36.820 There has to be

00:07:37.960 equality

00:07:38.500 in the outcomes. As you said

00:07:40.640 in your wonderful monologue

00:07:42.000 that's exactly what Marxism is.

00:07:44.180 By the way let me give you a great quote which

00:07:45.660 I don't think I've ever mentioned to you

00:07:47.180 in our previous conversations.

00:07:48.980 E.O. Wilson the famous

00:07:50.560 evolutionary biologist from Harvard who

00:07:52.480 recently passed away

00:07:53.340 he studied social ants.

00:07:54.920 Now in social ant species

00:07:56.940 there's only one reproductive queen

00:07:59.040 and then all of the other

00:08:00.440 ants are exactly equal whether they

00:08:02.240 are worker ants or soldier

00:08:03.700 ants right. So

00:08:04.480 ant society is

00:08:06.640 communistic. So when he

00:08:08.080 was asked

00:08:08.940 Professor Wilson what do you think

00:08:10.860 about socialism

00:08:11.500 communism his answer was

00:08:13.300 great idea

00:08:14.600 wrong species.

00:08:16.440 Human beings are not

00:08:17.780 communistic in their innate

00:08:19.300 human nature.

00:08:20.860 Some of us are taller

00:08:21.820 shorter

00:08:22.460 harder working

00:08:23.720 less hard working

00:08:24.660 so to impose

00:08:26.100 an end result

00:08:27.580 of equality

00:08:28.460 of outcomes

00:08:29.300 on human beings

00:08:30.380 is to literally be

00:08:31.980 anti-human nature.

00:08:34.040 So not only is it

00:08:35.120 called Marxism

00:08:36.240 it defies

00:08:37.420 evolutionary principles.

00:08:39.400 It's very dangerous

00:08:40.200 and I hope that my

00:08:41.720 neighbors to the south

00:08:43.380 make the right decision

00:08:44.280 on November 5th.

00:08:48.100 Talking to Professor Gadsad here

00:08:50.000 by the way the author of The

00:08:51.380 Parasitic Mind

00:08:52.020 you got a new book I believe

00:08:53.120 that you're working on right?

00:08:54.840 I am working on a book called

00:08:56.320 Suicidal Empathy

00:08:57.180 and if I can just mention

00:08:58.940 because I want to promote

00:09:00.660 my latest affiliation

00:09:01.680 I just accepted a visiting

00:09:03.440 professorship

00:09:04.180 and global

00:09:05.220 ambassadorship

00:09:06.100 in your country

00:09:07.360 at Northwood University

00:09:08.740 the Free Enterprise

00:09:10.020 University

00:09:10.600 so I'm very excited to be

00:09:11.660 spending a year there.

00:09:13.040 Oh that's

00:09:13.460 oh yeah awesome

00:09:14.740 cool

00:09:15.120 and you also did a paper

00:09:16.400 you've already done one paper

00:09:17.820 on suicidal empathy

00:09:18.620 it's up for your subscribers

00:09:19.840 I saw on your ex

00:09:20.980 now I'm fascinated by this idea

00:09:22.680 of suicidal empathy

00:09:23.620 and I was

00:09:24.560 looking at some of the things

00:09:25.860 you've had to say

00:09:26.540 about it

00:09:27.360 all I really know

00:09:28.880 so far

00:09:29.420 is those two words

00:09:30.580 juxtaposed against each other

00:09:32.460 empathy

00:09:33.000 and suicide

00:09:33.860 however

00:09:34.580 you know something

00:09:36.440 I've always

00:09:36.920 I don't know

00:09:38.400 who can claim

00:09:39.620 they've discovered

00:09:40.720 any idea for themselves

00:09:41.700 but like

00:09:42.160 one of the things

00:09:43.300 one of the pieces of wisdom

00:09:44.880 I feel like I've acquired

00:09:45.860 with some age

00:09:46.760 uh professor

00:09:47.660 is that

00:09:48.260 I've learned

00:09:49.320 through children

00:09:49.880 and through myself

00:09:50.560 your

00:09:51.500 your greatest strength

00:09:52.760 is your greatest weakness

00:09:54.060 in that trait

00:09:55.340 whatever that trait may be

00:09:56.320 that makes you special

00:09:57.300 is also

00:09:57.920 that trait

00:09:59.160 that is your

00:09:59.940 your downfall

00:10:00.820 and so it's like

00:10:01.780 management of that trait

00:10:03.240 is your life's mission

00:10:04.380 so when I was thinking

00:10:05.380 about suicidal empathy

00:10:06.240 um

00:10:06.880 uh

00:10:07.980 Ray Dalio

00:10:08.740 um

00:10:09.580 big thinker

00:10:10.680 he tweeted this out

00:10:11.660 something similar

00:10:12.520 he said like

00:10:12.880 attributes

00:10:13.680 people have individual attributes

00:10:16.100 whether or not they are

00:10:17.700 um

00:10:18.600 a strength

00:10:19.760 or a weakness

00:10:20.360 depends upon

00:10:21.640 their application

00:10:22.920 and obviously

00:10:23.760 application is circumstantial

00:10:25.180 and I just started

00:10:26.360 thinking about that

00:10:26.980 when it comes to you

00:10:27.780 and the idea of empathy

00:10:28.780 empathy

00:10:29.280 is treated

00:10:30.180 as a virtue

00:10:31.260 but modern society

00:10:32.720 has made it abundantly clear

00:10:34.600 how empathy

00:10:35.180 can be a vice

00:10:35.920 yes

00:10:37.140 so let me explain this

00:10:38.160 in a couple of ways

00:10:38.860 but thank you for the

00:10:39.800 for the lead up

00:10:40.880 uh

00:10:41.400 just a small correction

00:10:42.300 on my subscriber

00:10:43.300 exclusive content

00:10:44.440 I shared

00:10:45.520 a paper

00:10:46.460 by someone else

00:10:47.500 on

00:10:47.680 someone else

00:10:48.560 on empathy

00:10:49.040 not my own

00:10:49.700 it was part of the research

00:10:50.860 I'm doing for my book

00:10:51.900 on suicidal empathy

00:10:52.600 but but but thank you

00:10:53.560 for that plug

00:10:54.020 uh

00:10:54.840 so in the in the

00:10:56.300 sac truth about happiness

00:10:57.220 my last book

00:10:57.940 my happiness book

00:10:58.840 I talk about

00:10:59.720 the inverted you

00:11:01.780 being the most

00:11:03.200 universal law of nature

00:11:04.880 inverted you

00:11:05.680 basically means

00:11:06.500 too little

00:11:07.260 of something is not good

00:11:08.940 too much of something

00:11:09.980 is not good

00:11:10.540 it's exactly what

00:11:11.280 Aristotle called

00:11:12.220 the golden mean

00:11:13.360 right

00:11:13.600 he argued

00:11:14.240 look if you are

00:11:15.280 a cowardly soldier

00:11:16.380 that's not good

00:11:17.200 if you are

00:11:18.000 incredibly reckless

00:11:19.220 in your risk taking

00:11:20.400 you're going to die

00:11:21.400 and you're going to be

00:11:22.240 a useless martyr

00:11:23.460 that's not good

00:11:24.320 everything happens

00:11:25.840 in the sweet spot

00:11:26.800 everything in moderation

00:11:27.960 as the ancient greek

00:11:28.840 said right

00:11:29.320 so that exactly

00:11:30.900 applies to your point

00:11:31.840 about personality traits

00:11:33.160 perfectionism

00:11:34.400 for example

00:11:35.040 if you're not

00:11:36.040 in the least bit

00:11:36.760 perfectionist

00:11:37.500 your work will suffer

00:11:38.580 because you won't

00:11:39.140 have attention to detail

00:11:40.320 you won't be conscientious

00:11:41.440 if you're too

00:11:42.580 perfectionist

00:11:43.440 as I am

00:11:44.180 you'll end up

00:11:45.060 checking your

00:11:45.600 galley proofs

00:11:46.340 45,000 times

00:11:47.640 god forbid

00:11:48.420 there might be

00:11:48.980 one comma

00:11:49.540 out of place

00:11:50.180 and that's

00:11:50.940 counterproductive

00:11:51.860 what if there is

00:11:52.720 a comma

00:11:53.120 out of place

00:11:53.740 you could have

00:11:54.300 spent your time

00:11:55.020 doing something else

00:11:55.900 again it's in the

00:11:57.040 sweet spot

00:11:57.540 so now let's

00:11:58.160 come to empathy

00:11:58.940 empathy

00:11:59.980 is noble

00:12:01.020 as a virtue

00:12:01.760 because we're

00:12:02.660 a social species

00:12:03.640 therefore we have

00:12:04.380 to have theory

00:12:05.040 of mind

00:12:05.500 we have to put

00:12:06.100 ourselves

00:12:06.500 in the mind

00:12:07.040 of another

00:12:07.460 we have to put

00:12:08.340 ourselves

00:12:08.740 in the shoes

00:12:09.280 of another

00:12:09.760 and therefore

00:12:10.880 our emotional

00:12:11.680 system

00:12:12.280 has evolved

00:12:13.400 because it

00:12:13.940 confers upon us

00:12:14.940 certain evolutionary

00:12:15.820 advantages

00:12:16.460 but

00:12:17.580 it has to

00:12:19.120 be invoked

00:12:20.680 within certain

00:12:22.020 functional ranges

00:12:23.380 right

00:12:23.700 so take for example

00:12:25.080 OCD

00:12:25.600 and I'll come back

00:12:26.280 to empathy

00:12:26.760 in a second

00:12:27.700 OCD

00:12:28.340 is the misfiring

00:12:30.340 of an otherwise

00:12:31.360 adaptive process

00:12:32.440 and let me explain

00:12:33.080 what I mean by that

00:12:33.760 it is perfectly

00:12:35.580 adaptive for us

00:12:36.660 to scan the world

00:12:37.600 for environmental

00:12:38.640 threats

00:12:39.240 I check the back

00:12:40.260 door to make sure

00:12:41.020 that it's locked

00:12:41.640 but I only check

00:12:42.720 it once

00:12:43.220 I wash my hands

00:12:44.920 when I come home

00:12:45.680 once to make sure

00:12:46.840 that if I shook

00:12:47.920 hands with anybody

00:12:48.660 who had a virus

00:12:49.500 I don't get

00:12:50.260 contaminated

00:12:50.840 what happens

00:12:51.980 with OCD

00:12:52.640 that adaptive

00:12:54.220 mechanism

00:12:54.980 misfires

00:12:55.800 right

00:12:56.160 as soon as

00:12:56.920 the warning flag

00:12:57.600 goes up

00:12:58.100 and you tend

00:12:58.780 to it

00:12:59.100 it goes back

00:12:59.900 up again

00:13:00.360 so I spend

00:13:01.220 eight hours

00:13:02.180 washing my hands

00:13:03.240 and scalding

00:13:03.880 hot water

00:13:04.580 and my skin

00:13:05.800 is falling off

00:13:06.680 that's germ

00:13:07.400 contamination

00:13:08.140 OCD

00:13:08.740 I keep checking

00:13:09.880 the back door

00:13:10.540 for four hours

00:13:11.560 even though one time

00:13:12.780 would have been enough

00:13:13.480 so now let's apply

00:13:14.780 that mechanism

00:13:15.500 to empathy

00:13:16.200 it doesn't make sense

00:13:18.020 that you be

00:13:18.980 so suicidally

00:13:20.320 empathetic

00:13:21.200 so that

00:13:22.300 as a means

00:13:23.200 of demonstrating

00:13:23.980 how virtuous

00:13:24.820 you are

00:13:25.500 you literally

00:13:26.820 kill your society

00:13:28.120 right

00:13:28.580 so if you

00:13:29.680 target your empathy

00:13:30.820 to the wrong person

00:13:32.080 Guatemala

00:13:33.200 who come in

00:13:34.240 illegally

00:13:34.880 are more

00:13:36.360 worthy of our

00:13:37.240 empathy

00:13:37.720 than our own

00:13:38.640 American vets

00:13:39.700 the homeless

00:13:41.020 people who are

00:13:41.840 defecating

00:13:42.460 and fornicating

00:13:43.380 in the

00:13:44.040 children's parks

00:13:45.700 are more valuable

00:13:47.460 than the children

00:13:48.360 who should be able

00:13:49.080 to play in those

00:13:49.900 parks

00:13:50.360 void of that

00:13:51.660 stimulus

00:13:52.180 right

00:13:52.480 and so

00:13:53.180 what the book

00:13:54.080 is about

00:13:54.600 is

00:13:55.120 what starts

00:13:56.560 off as a

00:13:57.320 noble emotion

00:13:58.320 becomes

00:13:59.360 quite dysfunctional

00:14:00.800 when it's

00:14:01.280 dysregulated

00:14:01.960 so that's

00:14:02.460 the purpose

00:14:02.820 that's

00:14:03.160 the point

00:14:03.400 of the book

00:14:03.760 but is

00:14:05.800 that real

00:14:06.460 empathy

00:14:06.840 because like

00:14:07.220 when I see

00:14:07.920 that

00:14:08.360 I

00:14:08.720 totally agree

00:14:10.800 with you know

00:14:11.520 the moderate

00:14:12.140 mean or whatever

00:14:12.860 is too much

00:14:14.040 of any one

00:14:14.460 thing

00:14:14.820 is bad

00:14:16.620 moderation

00:14:17.480 is the key

00:14:18.180 but I also

00:14:19.480 question

00:14:19.900 why not

00:14:20.120 that's real

00:14:20.480 empathy

00:14:20.800 so

00:14:21.320 you talked

00:14:22.400 about it

00:14:22.720 in terms

00:14:23.020 of like

00:14:23.280 you're

00:14:23.440 projecting

00:14:23.740 virtue

00:14:24.120 but if

00:14:24.440 it's

00:14:24.580 about

00:14:24.880 you

00:14:25.500 and your

00:14:26.320 image

00:14:26.900 or even

00:14:27.420 your self

00:14:28.120 image

00:14:28.540 and that's

00:14:29.620 the reason

00:14:30.260 you're adopting

00:14:30.880 a position

00:14:31.480 and by the way

00:14:32.060 that's usually

00:14:32.760 the extent

00:14:33.320 of the

00:14:33.820 commitment

00:14:34.220 adopting a

00:14:35.860 position

00:14:36.240 it rarely

00:14:37.080 is accompanied

00:14:37.600 by action

00:14:38.400 although some

00:14:39.200 people are

00:14:39.780 empathetic

00:14:40.340 and employ

00:14:41.240 that in

00:14:41.900 their life

00:14:42.620 but if

00:14:43.640 it's about

00:14:44.140 you

00:14:44.600 adopting

00:14:45.420 a position

00:14:46.060 and you

00:14:47.060 are doing

00:14:48.080 it as part

00:14:48.520 of your

00:14:48.760 self

00:14:48.960 projection

00:14:49.600 is that

00:14:50.460 even really

00:14:51.000 empathy

00:14:51.380 yeah that's

00:14:52.380 a great

00:14:52.620 question

00:14:52.860 so in

00:14:53.240 my first

00:14:53.980 book

00:14:54.220 ever

00:14:54.460 this one

00:14:54.980 an academic

00:14:55.560 book

00:14:55.840 the evolutionary

00:14:56.320 basis

00:14:56.600 of consumption

00:14:57.120 i talk

00:14:58.080 about

00:14:58.380 altruism

00:14:59.140 and why

00:14:59.860 altruism

00:15:00.800 has evolved

00:15:01.460 and i argue

00:15:02.760 that the

00:15:03.300 jewish

00:15:03.660 philosopher

00:15:04.300 maimonides

00:15:05.080 nearly

00:15:05.720 1000 years

00:15:06.700 ago

00:15:06.980 talked about

00:15:07.920 eight levels

00:15:08.840 of altruistic

00:15:10.140 piety

00:15:10.700 the highest

00:15:11.860 level

00:15:12.300 to your

00:15:12.780 point

00:15:13.220 is when

00:15:14.500 the altruist

00:15:15.600 and the

00:15:16.140 beneficiary

00:15:16.860 of the

00:15:17.260 altruistic

00:15:17.860 act

00:15:18.240 don't know

00:15:19.140 one another

00:15:19.680 because then

00:15:20.740 they can't

00:15:22.360 reap the

00:15:23.240 social rewards

00:15:24.400 of having

00:15:25.100 committed

00:15:25.600 that altruistic

00:15:26.420 act

00:15:26.680 so you're

00:15:27.060 exactly

00:15:27.500 right

00:15:27.960 that even

00:15:28.900 when we

00:15:29.340 call something

00:15:30.200 supposedly

00:15:31.180 empathetic

00:15:32.120 oftentimes

00:15:33.080 it's

00:15:33.760 full empathy

00:15:34.620 that is

00:15:35.220 only serving

00:15:35.980 as virtue

00:15:37.200 signaling

00:15:37.720 currency

00:15:38.320 but nonetheless

00:15:39.300 if you ask

00:15:40.660 those people

00:15:41.320 why are you

00:15:42.200 holding those

00:15:42.720 positions

00:15:43.140 they'll say

00:15:44.060 because all

00:15:44.880 refugees are

00:15:45.740 welcome

00:15:46.160 because no

00:15:47.120 human is

00:15:47.660 illegal

00:15:48.000 so we can

00:15:48.840 debate as to

00:15:49.680 whether they

00:15:50.160 truly are

00:15:50.960 feeling that

00:15:51.760 empathy

00:15:52.140 or whether

00:15:52.580 it is

00:15:52.920 full empathy

00:15:53.620 to gain

00:15:54.400 social currency

00:15:55.200 but the

00:15:56.000 reality is

00:15:56.940 that it

00:15:57.720 is a

00:15:58.280 dysfunctional

00:15:59.580 application

00:16:00.180 of empathy

00:16:00.860 right

00:16:01.220 there is

00:16:02.300 no

00:16:02.620 logical

00:16:03.460 reason

00:16:04.120 why you

00:16:04.940 should

00:16:05.180 allow

00:16:05.660 entry

00:16:06.240 into

00:16:06.680 your host

00:16:07.920 society

00:16:08.620 of millions

00:16:09.700 of people

00:16:10.540 who don't

00:16:11.940 share

00:16:12.320 a single

00:16:13.400 one of your

00:16:14.100 foundational

00:16:14.580 values

00:16:15.180 right

00:16:15.400 so for

00:16:15.860 example

00:16:16.260 in Germany

00:16:17.400 and in

00:16:17.940 Denmark

00:16:18.280 and in

00:16:18.820 Sweden

00:16:19.180 and in

00:16:19.700 France

00:16:20.140 and in

00:16:20.580 Britain

00:16:20.900 certainly

00:16:21.820 now in

00:16:22.380 Canada

00:16:22.740 it's coming

00:16:23.380 for you

00:16:23.740 in the

00:16:24.000 US

00:16:24.260 you have

00:16:24.900 people

00:16:25.240 that are

00:16:25.520 coming

00:16:25.760 from

00:16:26.060 countries

00:16:26.620 where there

00:16:27.420 is

00:16:27.620 orgiastic

00:16:28.580 Jew

00:16:28.880 hatred

00:16:29.220 where for

00:16:29.640 example

00:16:30.060 in Pew

00:16:30.780 survey

00:16:31.280 research

00:16:31.880 95 to

00:16:33.440 99%

00:16:34.460 of the

00:16:35.080 surveyed

00:16:35.620 people

00:16:35.900 from those

00:16:36.460 societies

00:16:37.060 have endemic

00:16:38.420 Jew

00:16:38.800 hatred

00:16:39.240 as part

00:16:40.140 of their

00:16:40.560 self-identity

00:16:41.940 so then

00:16:42.580 it's not

00:16:42.980 going to be

00:16:43.560 surprising

00:16:44.120 that you

00:16:44.800 have

00:16:45.160 rampant

00:16:46.040 antisemitism

00:16:46.860 on campuses

00:16:48.720 demography

00:16:49.760 is destiny

00:16:50.760 and people

00:16:51.480 shake their

00:16:51.980 heads

00:16:52.240 why do we

00:16:53.320 have increased

00:16:53.980 Jew

00:16:54.180 hatred

00:16:54.420 well import

00:16:55.220 those values

00:16:56.020 and there

00:16:57.400 are downstream

00:16:57.920 effects

00:16:58.540 right

00:17:00.320 what one

00:17:01.520 more

00:17:01.860 philosophical

00:17:02.700 question

00:17:03.300 before I

00:17:04.440 kind of go

00:17:04.840 back to

00:17:05.260 the application

00:17:06.080 to maybe

00:17:06.740 current events

00:17:07.220 for politics

00:17:07.680 so you

00:17:09.680 know you

00:17:09.840 talked about

00:17:10.140 the hierarchy

00:17:10.620 of altruism

00:17:11.220 the different

00:17:12.340 levels of

00:17:12.840 altruism

00:17:13.620 it kind of

00:17:14.480 made me

00:17:14.680 think does

00:17:15.100 it matter

00:17:15.600 though

00:17:15.900 like if

00:17:16.900 you do

00:17:17.280 something good

00:17:18.060 and you

00:17:18.500 claim reward

00:17:19.240 for it

00:17:19.720 you claim

00:17:20.380 you claim

00:17:21.200 some social

00:17:22.240 credibility

00:17:22.760 for doing

00:17:23.220 something good

00:17:23.840 versus the

00:17:24.320 guy who

00:17:24.660 remains totally

00:17:25.200 anonymous

00:17:25.580 and we

00:17:26.280 do kind

00:17:27.000 of

00:17:27.320 internally

00:17:28.180 know we

00:17:28.620 all give

00:17:28.940 a little

00:17:29.160 more respect

00:17:29.800 to the

00:17:30.220 person

00:17:30.520 that we

00:17:30.820 don't even

00:17:31.100 know

00:17:31.380 the presumption

00:17:32.240 of anonymity

00:17:32.920 out there

00:17:33.360 but does it

00:17:34.480 matter if

00:17:35.260 they're both

00:17:35.760 effectuating

00:17:36.720 a good

00:17:37.100 like they're

00:17:37.800 doing something

00:17:38.340 like and

00:17:39.420 let's use

00:17:39.740 Donald Trump

00:17:40.200 because I

00:17:40.560 think Donald

00:17:40.840 Trump's a

00:17:41.120 great example

00:17:41.640 like if

00:17:42.220 Donald Trump

00:17:42.560 does something

00:17:42.980 good he's

00:17:43.380 probably going

00:17:43.840 to tell you

00:17:44.160 about it

00:17:44.500 you know

00:17:45.080 versus the

00:17:45.760 guy who

00:17:46.120 remains anonymous

00:17:46.800 does it

00:17:47.160 matter if

00:17:47.520 the outcome

00:17:47.880 is the

00:17:48.140 same

00:17:48.380 yeah so

00:17:49.500 again that's

00:17:50.320 a great

00:17:50.560 question

00:17:50.880 I talk

00:17:51.800 about this

00:17:52.520 again in

00:17:53.380 the in

00:17:53.680 my first

00:17:54.100 book ever

00:17:54.480 the evolutionary

00:17:54.900 basis of

00:17:55.280 consumption

00:17:55.580 I talk

00:17:56.040 about

00:17:56.320 philanthropy

00:17:57.260 as a

00:17:58.440 costly

00:17:58.920 signal

00:17:59.480 meaning

00:18:00.220 that when

00:18:01.200 we engage

00:18:01.920 in philanthropic

00:18:03.020 acts

00:18:03.460 we typically

00:18:04.440 engage in

00:18:05.380 these acts

00:18:06.020 because we

00:18:06.660 want to

00:18:07.260 have them

00:18:07.980 advertised

00:18:08.660 it's the

00:18:09.660 will

00:18:09.940 kane

00:18:10.400 oncology

00:18:11.200 center

00:18:11.600 it's

00:18:12.260 rarely ever

00:18:13.060 the

00:18:13.660 xxx

00:18:14.540 anonymous

00:18:15.460 oncology

00:18:16.300 center

00:18:16.680 right

00:18:16.920 and

00:18:17.360 incidentally

00:18:18.120 to your

00:18:18.540 point

00:18:18.920 even

00:18:19.680 when

00:18:20.040 people

00:18:20.620 supposedly

00:18:22.340 engage

00:18:23.700 in

00:18:24.060 anonymous

00:18:24.900 altruistic

00:18:25.820 acts

00:18:26.320 believe me

00:18:27.540 their inner

00:18:28.380 circles

00:18:28.960 the people

00:18:29.580 who matter

00:18:30.140 to them

00:18:30.600 will know

00:18:31.480 that they

00:18:31.860 did this

00:18:32.280 act

00:18:32.580 right

00:18:32.780 so even

00:18:33.380 though

00:18:33.660 will

00:18:33.920 kane

00:18:34.340 may not

00:18:35.060 know

00:18:35.440 that I

00:18:36.000 gave

00:18:36.220 a hundred

00:18:36.560 million

00:18:36.960 dollars

00:18:37.440 to cancer

00:18:38.060 research

00:18:38.580 I'll be

00:18:39.800 sure to

00:18:40.180 make

00:18:40.340 to tell

00:18:40.880 all of

00:18:41.400 my

00:18:41.620 billionaire

00:18:42.040 friends

00:18:42.520 what a

00:18:43.160 wonderful

00:18:43.460 guy

00:18:43.760 I am

00:18:44.040 and that's

00:18:44.560 exactly

00:18:44.980 why

00:18:45.340 Maimonides

00:18:45.980 a thousand

00:18:47.000 years ago

00:18:47.640 said that it

00:18:48.380 is almost

00:18:48.960 impossible to

00:18:50.060 reach this

00:18:50.540 highest level

00:18:51.240 of tzedakah

00:18:51.920 that's the

00:18:52.440 Hebrew word

00:18:53.000 of this

00:18:53.620 kind of

00:18:54.160 such pure

00:18:55.460 piety

00:18:55.940 because we're

00:18:56.900 human beings

00:18:57.640 we care about

00:18:58.560 our social

00:18:59.060 standing

00:18:59.500 and one of

00:19:00.060 the ways

00:19:00.360 that I

00:19:00.620 ascend the

00:19:01.000 social

00:19:01.240 standing

00:19:01.680 is to

00:19:02.320 show what

00:19:02.640 a good

00:19:02.880 guy I

00:19:03.260 am

00:19:03.440 that's

00:19:03.700 just part

00:19:04.100 of human

00:19:04.420 nature

00:19:04.720 and either

00:19:05.400 way

00:19:05.720 there's an

00:19:06.680 oncology

00:19:07.100 center

00:19:07.380 so I'm

00:19:07.960 not sure

00:19:08.280 but I do

00:19:12.220 think there's

00:19:12.480 a distinction

00:19:12.840 between that

00:19:13.420 action and

00:19:14.040 those that

00:19:14.360 simply

00:19:14.720 adopt a

00:19:16.480 position to

00:19:16.960 project virtue

00:19:17.700 of empathy

00:19:19.060 one

00:19:19.740 okay

00:19:20.380 where you

00:19:21.540 and I

00:19:21.760 are having

00:19:21.980 this

00:19:22.140 conversation

00:19:22.620 and I

00:19:23.080 know

00:19:23.520 and I

00:19:23.860 think

00:19:24.000 probably

00:19:24.320 a lot

00:19:24.540 of

00:19:24.620 listeners

00:19:24.900 and viewers

00:19:25.340 would be

00:19:25.880 able to

00:19:26.140 pick up

00:19:26.620 where you

00:19:27.400 are

00:19:27.560 although

00:19:27.740 you

00:19:27.900 are

00:19:28.020 unpredictable

00:19:28.480 and you're

00:19:28.840 not

00:19:29.080 crackerjack

00:19:29.680 box

00:19:29.940 politics

00:19:30.440 where a

00:19:31.140 lot of

00:19:31.300 your

00:19:31.420 leanings

00:19:31.700 might be

00:19:32.060 and people

00:19:32.400 certainly

00:19:32.660 know

00:19:32.840 where mine

00:19:33.200 are

00:19:33.400 so we're

00:19:35.200 having this

00:19:35.600 conversation

00:19:35.980 about

00:19:36.200 consequentialism

00:19:37.040 and we're

00:19:37.700 doing it

00:19:38.080 through a

00:19:38.320 lot of

00:19:38.500 the

00:19:38.600 positions

00:19:38.980 which now

00:19:39.940 have become

00:19:40.460 championed

00:19:41.200 positions of

00:19:41.660 the left

00:19:42.040 like free

00:19:42.860 speech

00:19:43.200 and we're

00:19:43.960 going to

00:19:44.080 come back

00:19:44.400 in a minute

00:19:44.700 to the

00:19:44.960 constitution

00:19:45.460 but

00:19:47.520 Donald Trump

00:19:49.820 is famously

00:19:50.800 pragmatic

00:19:51.440 okay

00:19:52.200 is pragmatism

00:19:53.620 not a

00:19:55.420 more

00:19:56.660 acceptable

00:19:57.940 word for

00:19:58.780 consequentialism

00:19:59.700 so in other

00:20:00.400 words

00:20:00.640 you know

00:20:02.640 Donald Trump

00:20:03.600 will make

00:20:04.060 a deal

00:20:04.640 he'll

00:20:05.460 understand

00:20:06.120 I

00:20:06.540 now I'm

00:20:07.220 not running

00:20:07.760 on some

00:20:08.200 hardcore

00:20:08.580 pro-life

00:20:09.080 position

00:20:09.460 if I

00:20:09.800 can't

00:20:10.060 get

00:20:10.180 elected

00:20:10.600 Donald

00:20:11.260 Trump

00:20:11.540 will

00:20:11.820 make

00:20:12.080 pragmatic

00:20:12.660 slash

00:20:13.140 consequentialist

00:20:14.040 decisions

00:20:14.500 so in

00:20:16.340 that way

00:20:17.000 I mean

00:20:18.140 there you

00:20:18.720 can say

00:20:19.040 well and

00:20:20.180 yeah I think

00:20:20.420 this is where

00:20:20.740 you are going

00:20:21.060 to go but

00:20:21.520 on foundational

00:20:22.400 values like

00:20:23.200 free speech

00:20:23.600 that's not the

00:20:24.480 place to be

00:20:25.020 consequential

00:20:25.660 that's exactly

00:20:26.820 it so let's

00:20:27.620 apply what you

00:20:28.740 just mentioned

00:20:29.440 to say

00:20:29.960 academia

00:20:30.580 right

00:20:31.000 so some

00:20:31.900 people would

00:20:32.480 say we

00:20:33.260 absolutely

00:20:33.860 should have

00:20:34.660 an ethos

00:20:35.400 of forbidden

00:20:36.080 knowledge

00:20:36.580 there are

00:20:36.980 certain

00:20:37.520 areas

00:20:38.180 that you

00:20:38.900 should never

00:20:39.520 study

00:20:40.100 because the

00:20:41.240 consequences

00:20:42.340 of finding

00:20:43.140 out those

00:20:43.740 things would

00:20:44.540 be too

00:20:45.000 hurtful or

00:20:45.740 too dangerous

00:20:46.400 right so

00:20:46.900 don't do

00:20:47.900 racial

00:20:48.460 differences

00:20:49.100 in IQ

00:20:49.820 studies

00:20:50.560 even though

00:20:51.360 you may

00:20:51.840 properly

00:20:53.940 apply

00:20:54.600 honestly

00:20:55.220 apply the

00:20:55.800 scientific

00:20:56.140 method

00:20:56.660 because if

00:20:57.400 the results

00:20:58.220 come out

00:20:58.720 in a way

00:20:59.240 that are

00:20:59.900 difficult for

00:21:00.940 the politically

00:21:01.380 correct narrative

00:21:02.240 well then

00:21:02.980 some group

00:21:03.640 will be

00:21:04.020 marginalized

00:21:04.520 don't study

00:21:05.680 sex differences

00:21:06.660 or study

00:21:07.980 sex differences

00:21:08.760 as long as

00:21:09.700 women are

00:21:10.280 always shown

00:21:10.980 to be superior

00:21:11.780 on every

00:21:12.520 task that's

00:21:13.180 ever studied

00:21:13.840 god forbid

00:21:15.420 a million

00:21:16.140 times men

00:21:17.280 are shown

00:21:17.760 to be

00:21:18.100 superior

00:21:18.520 on some

00:21:19.160 task

00:21:19.580 please make

00:21:20.400 sure to

00:21:20.800 hide that

00:21:21.260 data in

00:21:22.020 your file

00:21:22.540 drawer

00:21:22.860 because otherwise

00:21:23.720 you're part

00:21:24.240 of the

00:21:24.440 patriarchy

00:21:25.020 no

00:21:25.620 academia

00:21:27.160 the pursuit

00:21:28.120 of truth

00:21:28.840 has to

00:21:29.420 be unencumbered

00:21:30.800 by consequentialist

00:21:32.200 calculations

00:21:32.860 because if

00:21:33.980 we apply

00:21:34.600 that

00:21:34.980 then we

00:21:35.580 should have

00:21:35.900 never studied

00:21:36.640 ballistics

00:21:37.260 and physics

00:21:38.020 because that

00:21:39.020 led to the

00:21:39.660 dropping of

00:21:40.340 the atomic

00:21:40.860 bomb

00:21:41.280 so we

00:21:41.920 absolutely

00:21:42.460 need to

00:21:43.260 cancel

00:21:43.720 physics

00:21:44.320 because there

00:21:44.840 are simply

00:21:45.320 too many

00:21:46.540 nefarious

00:21:47.300 consequences

00:21:48.100 of understanding

00:21:49.360 physics

00:21:49.820 by the way

00:21:50.400 in the

00:21:51.520 parasitic

00:21:51.960 mind

00:21:52.400 many of

00:21:53.260 the parasitic

00:21:54.260 idea

00:21:54.680 pathogens

00:21:55.200 that I

00:21:55.580 discuss

00:21:56.160 stemmed

00:21:57.020 from that

00:21:57.480 reflex

00:21:57.920 so for

00:21:58.340 example

00:21:58.660 social

00:21:59.120 scientists

00:21:59.800 have spent

00:22:00.680 the last

00:22:01.160 100 years

00:22:02.160 developing

00:22:03.020 the disciplines

00:22:04.000 of anthropology

00:22:04.860 and sociology

00:22:05.620 and economics

00:22:06.760 without any

00:22:08.220 biological

00:22:09.000 underpinnings

00:22:09.980 because some

00:22:11.280 really imbecilic

00:22:12.340 academics

00:22:12.940 thought that

00:22:14.020 biology is

00:22:14.980 simply too

00:22:15.720 dangerous

00:22:16.340 to apply

00:22:17.380 to the

00:22:17.760 human

00:22:18.000 condition

00:22:18.620 eugenicists

00:22:20.000 used it

00:22:20.660 to justify

00:22:21.600 their cause

00:22:22.380 Hitler

00:22:23.200 used it

00:22:23.960 to justify

00:22:24.780 hey there's

00:22:25.360 a natural

00:22:25.820 struggle

00:22:26.280 between the

00:22:26.820 races

00:22:27.160 we're the

00:22:27.840 Aryans

00:22:28.300 sorry Jews

00:22:29.220 you lost

00:22:29.840 British

00:22:30.540 social

00:22:30.940 class

00:22:31.480 applied

00:22:32.140 social

00:22:32.860 Darwinism

00:22:33.580 to say

00:22:34.020 hey we're

00:22:34.440 the upper

00:22:34.820 class

00:22:35.180 if you

00:22:35.800 die

00:22:36.080 from

00:22:36.420 tuberculosis

00:22:37.380 in your

00:22:37.800 squalor

00:22:38.320 hey that's

00:22:39.000 just Darwinian

00:22:39.760 so let's

00:22:40.680 now create

00:22:41.480 a world

00:22:42.060 view

00:22:42.380 where biology

00:22:43.540 ceases to

00:22:44.360 matter for

00:22:44.900 human behavior

00:22:45.660 because at

00:22:46.400 least we're

00:22:46.860 being noble

00:22:47.520 or as Plato

00:22:48.620 said the

00:22:49.140 noble lie

00:22:49.780 right

00:22:50.020 no when

00:22:51.160 it comes

00:22:51.640 to the

00:22:52.060 truth

00:22:52.480 not a

00:22:53.220 single

00:22:53.660 millimeter

00:22:54.340 is ever

00:22:55.000 seeded

00:22:55.540 well but

00:22:57.760 that's not

00:22:58.240 the case

00:22:58.680 right

00:22:58.940 like what

00:22:59.660 you just

00:22:59.920 described

00:23:00.260 I would

00:23:00.620 think we

00:23:00.880 were at

00:23:01.040 the apex

00:23:01.600 of the

00:23:02.100 moral truth

00:23:02.500 we're at

00:23:02.800 the apex

00:23:03.420 of all

00:23:03.840 those things

00:23:04.240 you just

00:23:04.520 described

00:23:04.880 we are

00:23:05.440 not studying

00:23:06.080 those

00:23:06.440 those are

00:23:06.880 off the

00:23:07.380 map

00:23:07.700 you do

00:23:08.360 not learn

00:23:08.900 more on

00:23:09.480 those subjects

00:23:10.040 today we

00:23:10.860 are probably

00:23:11.500 at the apex

00:23:12.220 of that

00:23:13.320 ignorance

00:23:13.880 exactly

00:23:14.820 ignorance

00:23:15.300 by the way

00:23:15.620 that's

00:23:16.160 that's how

00:23:16.820 I originally

00:23:17.920 you know

00:23:19.040 I often

00:23:20.000 say that

00:23:20.620 writing the

00:23:21.460 parasitic

00:23:21.940 mind

00:23:22.360 was really

00:23:23.280 a 30

00:23:23.820 year journey

00:23:24.840 I mean

00:23:25.780 starting from

00:23:26.720 when I was

00:23:27.120 in the

00:23:27.300 Lebanese

00:23:27.580 civil war

00:23:27.960 but I've

00:23:28.240 been a

00:23:28.440 professor

00:23:28.740 now for

00:23:29.080 this is

00:23:29.380 my

00:23:29.520 31st

00:23:30.080 year

00:23:30.300 when I

00:23:31.100 was first

00:23:31.720 trying to

00:23:32.440 Darwinize

00:23:33.400 the business

00:23:33.900 school

00:23:34.240 what do I

00:23:34.640 mean by

00:23:34.900 that

00:23:35.120 applying

00:23:35.880 evolutionary

00:23:36.540 biology

00:23:37.160 and evolutionary

00:23:37.820 psychology

00:23:38.420 to study

00:23:39.040 economic

00:23:39.900 decision

00:23:40.340 making

00:23:40.720 consumer

00:23:41.280 behavior

00:23:41.920 personnel

00:23:42.720 psychology

00:23:43.500 all of

00:23:44.720 my

00:23:44.960 colleagues

00:23:45.420 were like

00:23:45.900 what the

00:23:46.900 hell is

00:23:47.200 this

00:23:47.480 biology

00:23:48.740 doesn't

00:23:49.200 apply to

00:23:49.660 human

00:23:49.900 behavior

00:23:50.260 and I'm

00:23:50.520 thinking

00:23:50.780 how could

00:23:51.480 it not

00:23:51.920 apply to

00:23:52.440 human

00:23:52.660 behavior

00:23:52.980 you think

00:23:53.680 biology

00:23:54.240 applies

00:23:54.780 to every

00:23:55.420 single

00:23:55.840 species

00:23:56.480 except one

00:23:57.560 called

00:23:57.920 homo

00:23:58.260 sapiens

00:23:58.640 and so

00:23:59.180 that's

00:23:59.600 when I

00:23:59.940 started

00:24:00.640 realizing

00:24:01.360 that

00:24:02.160 Houston

00:24:02.980 we have

00:24:03.440 a problem

00:24:04.000 right

00:24:04.340 even very

00:24:05.420 intelligent

00:24:06.040 professors

00:24:06.820 with many

00:24:07.800 titles

00:24:08.320 before and

00:24:09.040 after their

00:24:09.560 names

00:24:09.840 could be

00:24:10.520 completely

00:24:11.060 lobotomized

00:24:11.820 and that's

00:24:14.320 it's interesting

00:24:15.000 when you

00:24:15.180 describe that

00:24:15.680 that's

00:24:15.940 actually

00:24:16.300 a little

00:24:17.420 bit of

00:24:17.700 what's

00:24:17.920 been

00:24:18.040 discussed

00:24:18.320 when it

00:24:18.540 comes to

00:24:18.780 artificial

00:24:19.060 intelligence

00:24:19.620 like you

00:24:19.960 talked about

00:24:20.260 with physics

00:24:20.680 and ballistics

00:24:21.240 and the

00:24:21.720 leading to

00:24:22.200 the atomic

00:24:22.520 bomb

00:24:22.820 there are

00:24:23.140 people are

00:24:23.480 saying

00:24:23.660 this AI

00:24:24.400 thing is

00:24:25.140 scary

00:24:25.480 we gotta

00:24:25.840 stop

00:24:26.300 we gotta

00:24:26.620 figure out

00:24:27.020 a way

00:24:27.340 for it

00:24:28.080 not to

00:24:28.500 continue

00:24:28.920 as a field

00:24:29.660 of study

00:24:30.120 right

00:24:31.400 I mean

00:24:32.120 there are

00:24:32.740 two sides

00:24:33.340 to the AI

00:24:34.060 story

00:24:34.560 some say

00:24:35.180 that you know

00:24:35.740 the robots

00:24:36.240 are going to

00:24:36.800 kill us

00:24:37.120 in 15 minutes

00:24:37.840 once they're

00:24:38.240 strong enough

00:24:38.700 others say

00:24:39.480 that's complete

00:24:40.100 science fiction

00:24:40.760 hype

00:24:41.100 so I'm

00:24:42.300 not gonna

00:24:42.560 weigh in

00:24:42.920 on you know

00:24:43.680 who's right

00:24:44.800 but it's the

00:24:45.900 same reflex

00:24:46.720 right

00:24:47.140 it's basically

00:24:47.840 saying

00:24:48.360 don't pursue

00:24:49.320 some truth

00:24:50.160 because the

00:24:51.100 consequences

00:24:51.820 of that

00:24:52.340 truth

00:24:52.720 will simply

00:24:53.560 be too

00:24:54.000 harmful

00:24:54.280 by the way

00:24:54.740 you may or

00:24:55.280 may not

00:24:55.480 remember this

00:24:55.980 and if

00:24:56.340 your viewers

00:24:57.620 haven't watched

00:24:58.280 it they

00:24:58.560 should

00:24:58.800 the movie

00:25:00.220 The Name

00:25:00.680 of the Rose

00:25:01.360 in the mid

00:25:02.200 80s

00:25:02.700 that came

00:25:03.140 out with

00:25:03.740 do you know

00:25:04.920 it Will

00:25:05.240 do you know

00:25:05.520 the movie

00:25:05.820 that I'm

00:25:06.000 talking about

00:25:06.420 No

00:25:07.000 Name of the Rose

00:25:07.680 Never heard of it

00:25:08.380 Name of the Rose

00:25:09.220 No

00:25:09.500 It's with

00:25:10.820 Christian Slater

00:25:12.180 and Sean Connery

00:25:13.340 Sean Connery

00:25:14.420 plays a monk

00:25:16.240 I think a

00:25:17.000 Gregorian monk

00:25:17.820 this is in

00:25:18.760 the Dark Ages

00:25:19.500 all of these

00:25:20.740 monks are

00:25:21.400 dying from

00:25:22.480 a poison

00:25:23.020 and their

00:25:23.540 tongues are

00:25:24.160 blue

00:25:24.560 and he's

00:25:25.300 wondering

00:25:25.620 how did

00:25:26.180 they die

00:25:26.880 from that

00:25:27.240 and it turns

00:25:27.720 out just so

00:25:28.220 I can fast

00:25:28.820 forward

00:25:29.160 that the

00:25:30.160 head monk

00:25:30.940 had placed

00:25:32.160 some Aristotle

00:25:33.200 books dealing

00:25:34.120 with humor

00:25:34.820 in a forbidden

00:25:36.220 library

00:25:37.000 because he

00:25:37.680 didn't want

00:25:38.440 the monks

00:25:39.040 to read

00:25:40.060 any book

00:25:40.760 on humor

00:25:41.360 because humor

00:25:42.320 is the work

00:25:42.960 of the devil

00:25:43.600 but what they

00:25:44.760 were doing

00:25:45.300 and so he

00:25:45.900 had laced

00:25:46.900 the bottom

00:25:48.040 of the pages

00:25:48.800 with a poison

00:25:49.540 so that if

00:25:50.640 a monk

00:25:51.080 actually went

00:25:51.880 in there

00:25:52.320 and read

00:25:52.800 the forbidden

00:25:53.380 books

00:25:53.800 then he

00:25:54.700 would be

00:25:55.060 poisoned

00:25:55.420 and get

00:25:55.840 killed

00:25:56.180 that's the

00:25:57.300 reflex

00:25:57.800 of forbidden

00:25:58.680 knowledge

00:25:59.220 I decide

00:26:00.520 what you

00:26:01.340 can read

00:26:02.060 what you

00:26:02.660 could think

00:26:03.260 what you

00:26:03.860 can say

00:26:04.320 and that's

00:26:04.920 why I

00:26:05.300 quoted that

00:26:05.940 book in

00:26:06.320 The Parasitic

00:26:06.840 Mind

00:26:07.120 and that's

00:26:07.580 exactly what

00:26:08.240 Kamala Harris

00:26:09.000 is doing

00:26:09.460 she is the

00:26:10.300 head monk

00:26:10.820 I love that

00:26:13.520 I love

00:26:14.000 that analogy

00:26:14.440 Kamala Harris

00:26:15.020 is the head

00:26:15.460 monk

00:26:15.660 when you

00:26:15.920 say I

00:26:16.440 decide

00:26:16.920 it's always

00:26:17.500 who's I

00:26:18.220 who is the

00:26:18.960 all-seeing

00:26:19.340 all-knowing

00:26:19.840 all-powerful

00:26:20.460 decider

00:26:20.900 of knowledge

00:26:21.480 and yeah

00:26:22.200 Kamala Harris

00:26:22.760 is putting

00:26:23.080 herself in

00:26:23.680 the position

00:26:24.180 of the head

00:26:25.620 monk

00:26:25.880 so that takes

00:26:26.620 me to the

00:26:26.900 final thing

00:26:27.320 here

00:26:27.500 I'm not

00:26:28.940 shocked

00:26:29.420 and by the

00:26:30.540 way

00:26:30.800 maybe in

00:26:31.320 the spirit

00:26:31.720 of you

00:26:32.080 should never

00:26:32.500 put any

00:26:32.920 information

00:26:33.460 or knowledge

00:26:33.960 off the

00:26:34.440 table

00:26:34.680 you should

00:26:34.940 consider

00:26:35.240 all perspective

00:26:36.000 and all

00:26:36.320 types of

00:26:36.760 human thought

00:26:37.300 maybe I

00:26:38.240 shouldn't

00:26:38.520 criticize

00:26:38.960 the New

00:26:39.240 York

00:26:39.400 Times

00:26:39.700 for publishing

00:26:40.260 this

00:26:41.300 which is

00:26:42.440 in

00:26:42.740 it's an

00:26:44.060 opinion

00:26:44.340 piece

00:26:44.720 I don't

00:26:46.840 know who

00:26:47.100 this person

00:26:47.500 is

00:26:47.680 Jennifer

00:26:47.960 Sazali

00:26:49.240 I don't

00:26:50.800 know who

00:26:51.060 that is

00:26:51.460 you may

00:26:51.800 maybe she's

00:26:52.260 in academia

00:26:52.760 she's a

00:26:53.980 non-fiction

00:26:54.400 book critic

00:26:55.080 so maybe not

00:26:56.480 quite as

00:26:56.840 esteemed

00:26:57.280 as a

00:26:57.720 professor

00:26:58.060 but the

00:26:58.760 headline is

00:26:59.200 the constitution

00:26:59.820 is sacred

00:27:00.600 is it also

00:27:01.840 dangerous

00:27:02.460 and the sub

00:27:03.600 that is one

00:27:03.960 of the biggest

00:27:04.340 threats to

00:27:04.720 America's

00:27:05.060 politics might

00:27:05.620 be the

00:27:05.860 country's

00:27:06.200 founding

00:27:06.440 document

00:27:06.960 for something

00:27:07.700 like I'd

00:27:08.200 say a

00:27:09.540 thousand

00:27:09.840 words she

00:27:10.500 goes on

00:27:10.980 to talk

00:27:11.400 about the

00:27:11.840 constitution

00:27:12.420 it's

00:27:13.460 shocking

00:27:13.820 for me

00:27:14.540 or well

00:27:15.080 as somebody

00:27:15.560 who did

00:27:15.820 study the

00:27:16.240 law

00:27:16.540 and I

00:27:16.940 know you're

00:27:17.220 Canadian

00:27:17.560 and the

00:27:18.080 constitution

00:27:18.420 is uniquely

00:27:18.940 American

00:27:19.440 for me

00:27:20.700 it is a

00:27:21.120 sacred

00:27:21.480 sacred

00:27:21.760 document

00:27:22.220 it is

00:27:22.700 accumulation

00:27:23.180 of I

00:27:23.700 think

00:27:23.940 centuries

00:27:24.460 of

00:27:24.640 knowledge

00:27:25.080 but the

00:27:27.700 whole point

00:27:28.200 of the

00:27:28.440 constitution

00:27:29.020 is to

00:27:29.780 thwart

00:27:30.040 authoritarianism

00:27:30.920 like it

00:27:31.900 is it's

00:27:32.780 a separation

00:27:33.240 of power

00:27:33.700 it's checks

00:27:34.160 and balances

00:27:34.780 it's certain

00:27:35.460 rights are

00:27:35.940 not subjected

00:27:36.520 to

00:27:36.720 democracy

00:27:37.280 yes

00:27:37.660 democracy

00:27:38.220 meaning a

00:27:38.920 protection

00:27:39.260 of a

00:27:39.620 minority

00:27:39.980 and she

00:27:40.980 spends

00:27:41.440 this whole

00:27:41.920 thing

00:27:42.240 or

00:27:42.420 wellingly

00:27:43.040 twisting

00:27:44.760 language

00:27:45.180 to say

00:27:46.200 yes it

00:27:46.700 subverts

00:27:47.000 democracy

00:27:47.600 but in

00:27:48.540 the protection

00:27:48.980 of authoritarianism

00:27:49.900 and to me

00:27:50.420 when we're

00:27:51.180 talking about

00:27:51.440 free speech

00:27:51.880 or whatever

00:27:52.280 increasingly

00:27:53.980 this is

00:27:54.620 the end

00:27:55.040 game

00:27:55.360 it's not

00:27:55.960 the end

00:27:56.260 game

00:27:56.420 maybe it's

00:27:56.780 the final

00:27:57.120 hurdle

00:27:57.480 to the

00:27:58.080 end

00:27:58.240 game

00:27:58.480 but the

00:27:59.160 suspension

00:27:59.580 of the

00:27:59.920 constitution

00:28:00.500 indeed

00:28:01.760 look

00:28:02.120 in the

00:28:03.220 parasitic

00:28:03.580 mind

00:28:03.860 I have

00:28:04.160 a quote

00:28:04.560 which I'm

00:28:04.940 sure

00:28:05.220 you know

00:28:06.100 what I'm

00:28:06.320 talking about

00:28:06.700 but I don't

00:28:07.020 have in front

00:28:07.480 of me

00:28:07.680 the Reagan

00:28:08.360 quote

00:28:08.840 where he

00:28:09.580 basically

00:28:09.980 says that

00:28:10.560 every generation

00:28:11.540 you have to

00:28:12.200 be assiduous

00:28:13.440 in defending

00:28:14.160 freedom because

00:28:15.000 every generation

00:28:16.020 there are new

00:28:16.640 folks who are

00:28:17.160 trying to

00:28:17.840 to kill

00:28:18.720 freedom

00:28:19.160 right

00:28:19.440 and so

00:28:20.040 therefore you

00:28:20.560 can't assume

00:28:21.260 that it's going

00:28:21.840 to be the

00:28:22.340 default value

00:28:23.200 forevermore

00:28:23.920 that you're

00:28:24.260 going to have

00:28:24.760 the freedoms

00:28:25.320 and liberties

00:28:25.840 that you take

00:28:26.700 for granted

00:28:27.220 to that point

00:28:28.880 one of the

00:28:29.360 reasons why

00:28:30.040 some of the

00:28:30.740 staunchest

00:28:31.480 defenders

00:28:32.200 of the

00:28:33.000 constitution

00:28:33.480 and to

00:28:34.180 your point

00:28:34.640 I'm

00:28:35.020 Canadian

00:28:35.560 yet frankly

00:28:36.600 I should

00:28:37.460 be granted

00:28:37.980 American

00:28:38.500 citizenship

00:28:39.080 yesterday

00:28:39.760 the reason

00:28:41.020 why

00:28:41.400 immigrants

00:28:42.260 are some

00:28:42.700 of the

00:28:42.960 staunchest

00:28:43.480 defenders

00:28:43.980 of the

00:28:44.900 constitution

00:28:45.540 and of

00:28:46.180 the western

00:28:46.580 tradition

00:28:47.040 is because

00:28:47.900 we've

00:28:48.340 sampled

00:28:48.920 from the

00:28:49.700 buffet of

00:28:50.280 societies

00:28:50.900 out there

00:28:52.200 and we

00:28:52.980 know

00:28:53.380 that the

00:28:54.100 American

00:28:54.540 experience

00:28:55.240 is a

00:28:56.260 bleep

00:28:56.740 in history

00:28:57.360 it's an

00:28:57.900 anomaly

00:28:58.420 it's a

00:28:58.880 miraculous

00:28:59.420 anomaly

00:28:59.960 but that's

00:29:01.120 not the

00:29:01.580 default

00:29:02.000 value

00:29:02.420 the default

00:29:03.140 value

00:29:03.720 is for

00:29:04.680 head monk

00:29:06.320 Kamala

00:29:06.940 to tell

00:29:07.640 the rest

00:29:08.100 of us

00:29:08.460 how to

00:29:08.920 dress

00:29:09.240 when to

00:29:09.700 talk

00:29:10.020 when to

00:29:10.500 eat

00:29:10.780 what to

00:29:11.200 put on

00:29:11.460 our

00:29:11.620 bodies

00:29:11.940 that's

00:29:12.800 the way

00:29:13.260 societies

00:29:13.860 have

00:29:14.100 organized

00:29:14.680 themselves

00:29:15.600 since

00:29:16.320 time

00:29:16.660 immemorial

00:29:17.240 so it

00:29:18.060 breaks my

00:29:18.760 heart

00:29:19.040 to see

00:29:19.480 someone

00:29:19.780 like this

00:29:20.240 woman

00:29:20.440 I don't

00:29:20.720 know

00:29:20.860 who she

00:29:21.140 is

00:29:21.400 who has

00:29:22.080 benefited

00:29:22.680 from all

00:29:23.340 those

00:29:23.580 freedoms

00:29:24.000 where

00:29:24.960 people

00:29:25.300 like me

00:29:25.860 came

00:29:26.260 and knocked

00:29:26.900 on the

00:29:27.160 door

00:29:27.260 and said

00:29:27.480 please

00:29:27.780 let us

00:29:28.140 in

00:29:28.340 they're

00:29:28.520 about

00:29:28.720 to

00:29:28.900 kill

00:29:29.080 us

00:29:29.300 and

00:29:29.840 she

00:29:30.000 doesn't

00:29:30.280 appreciate

00:29:30.700 what she

00:29:31.120 has

00:29:31.940 what a

00:29:32.860 shame

00:29:33.100 well the

00:29:35.180 other thing

00:29:35.600 the one

00:29:35.940 other thing

00:29:36.240 I'll explore

00:29:36.840 with you

00:29:37.040 here that

00:29:37.300 I find

00:29:37.580 fascinating

00:29:37.980 I'm sort

00:29:38.420 of just

00:29:38.740 freelancing

00:29:39.360 this thought

00:29:39.840 with you

00:29:40.100 which is

00:29:40.340 always

00:29:40.520 dangerous

00:29:40.900 but

00:29:41.180 the

00:29:42.380 constitution

00:29:42.960 is

00:29:44.300 absolutely

00:29:45.780 a subversion

00:29:46.780 of democracy

00:29:47.520 when I say

00:29:48.540 subversion

00:29:49.000 that makes

00:29:49.360 it seem

00:29:49.680 like it's

00:29:50.100 secretive

00:29:50.440 it's not

00:29:50.800 it's

00:29:51.040 overt

00:29:51.400 it is

00:29:52.520 a

00:29:53.020 it is

00:29:53.820 a document

00:29:54.280 that says

00:29:54.720 these certain

00:29:55.780 rights

00:29:56.380 will not be

00:29:57.420 subjected

00:29:57.880 to a

00:29:58.280 majority

00:29:58.620 vote

00:29:59.040 and that's

00:29:59.800 why it's

00:30:00.100 a projection

00:30:00.560 of

00:30:01.200 minority

00:30:01.740 so 51%

00:30:03.120 can't decide

00:30:04.120 to set

00:30:04.560 aside

00:30:04.960 freedom

00:30:05.520 of speech

00:30:06.020 it's not

00:30:06.620 going to

00:30:06.800 happen

00:30:07.060 because the

00:30:07.780 united states

00:30:08.320 constitution

00:30:08.940 and a pure

00:30:10.240 democracy

00:30:10.780 it is pure

00:30:12.260 power

00:30:12.680 you talked

00:30:13.740 about the

00:30:14.800 singular head

00:30:15.380 monk but

00:30:15.860 it's also

00:30:16.220 like tribal

00:30:16.760 power and

00:30:17.500 that's how a lot

00:30:17.960 of societies

00:30:18.460 work especially

00:30:19.380 in third world

00:30:19.900 countries it's

00:30:20.380 like whoever

00:30:21.300 is the majority

00:30:22.260 power doesn't

00:30:23.100 always mean by

00:30:23.580 numbers because

00:30:24.140 it often means

00:30:24.700 by force

00:30:25.340 they dictate

00:30:26.320 the terms

00:30:26.740 of society

00:30:27.300 over the

00:30:27.840 minority

00:30:28.220 and it makes

00:30:29.320 me wonder

00:30:29.720 like that

00:30:30.880 is sort of

00:30:31.400 where you're

00:30:31.760 pushing this

00:30:32.500 either a you

00:30:33.860 have the ultimate

00:30:34.440 confidence that

00:30:35.240 you will always

00:30:36.220 be on the side

00:30:36.860 of the 51%

00:30:37.820 or you believe

00:30:39.640 that somehow

00:30:40.260 you'll be the

00:30:41.360 one in power

00:30:43.240 and in that

00:30:44.080 pursuit of power

00:30:45.060 ultimately is

00:30:46.000 brute it's

00:30:46.920 not it's not

00:30:47.920 at a voting

00:30:48.340 booth like it

00:30:49.200 is like it

00:30:50.160 gets violent

00:30:50.860 it always does

00:30:52.280 get violent

00:30:52.880 and I just

00:30:53.660 wonder with

00:30:53.980 somebody like

00:30:54.400 Jennifer

00:30:54.820 Salai

00:30:56.780 do you think

00:30:59.740 in a brute

00:31:00.340 fight for power

00:31:01.440 a violent fight

00:31:02.840 for power

00:31:03.380 your side

00:31:04.680 will be the

00:31:05.100 victor

00:31:05.820 because I'm

00:31:06.420 not so confident

00:31:07.260 that the side

00:31:08.360 that asks for

00:31:09.040 no guns

00:31:10.220 gender fluidity

00:31:12.740 legalization of

00:31:13.920 drugs is the one

00:31:14.760 that wants to

00:31:15.260 reduce this

00:31:15.960 to a fight

00:31:16.860 of brute

00:31:17.260 violent power

00:31:17.980 well and listen

00:31:19.680 this kind of

00:31:20.520 parasitic thinking

00:31:21.260 that you're

00:31:21.780 describing in

00:31:22.560 this Jennifer

00:31:23.480 lady is exactly

00:31:24.960 why you have

00:31:25.860 queers for

00:31:26.500 Palestine

00:31:27.000 right it's I

00:31:28.140 mean in what

00:31:29.080 world does it

00:31:29.980 make sense

00:31:30.640 where if my

00:31:31.900 I my most

00:31:33.940 fundamental identity

00:31:35.000 that I present

00:31:35.660 to the world

00:31:36.300 which is I'm

00:31:37.360 queer in what

00:31:38.820 world would you

00:31:39.880 then place all

00:31:41.080 of your chips

00:31:41.860 on the place

00:31:42.980 that would put

00:31:44.780 you through a

00:31:45.620 100% effective

00:31:47.600 gravitation based

00:31:49.200 conversion method

00:31:50.460 by logging you

00:31:52.620 off the

00:31:53.120 you know the

00:31:53.960 building as

00:31:55.020 they do in

00:31:55.540 Gaza for

00:31:56.160 people who are

00:31:56.860 queer versus

00:31:57.820 Tel Aviv where

00:31:59.100 you actually have

00:32:00.360 one of the most

00:32:01.260 queer friendly

00:32:01.880 places I mean

00:32:02.400 short of New

00:32:03.160 York San

00:32:03.980 Francisco and

00:32:04.780 actually Montreal

00:32:05.620 my home city

00:32:06.360 Tel Aviv is

00:32:07.480 probably right up

00:32:08.300 there in the

00:32:08.700 top five most

00:32:09.700 queer friendly

00:32:10.460 places and yet

00:32:11.480 people say no

00:32:12.120 no I'm putting

00:32:12.780 all my chips

00:32:13.520 with the society

00:32:15.160 that would you

00:32:15.960 know throw me

00:32:16.560 off rooftops

00:32:17.580 that's the

00:32:18.640 kind of

00:32:19.300 unbelievably

00:32:20.580 myopic

00:32:21.300 parasitic

00:32:21.920 thinking quote

00:32:23.500 thinking that I

00:32:24.940 rail against all

00:32:25.740 day but you

00:32:26.500 know I don't

00:32:27.120 want to end

00:32:27.520 this on a

00:32:28.060 pessimistic note

00:32:29.140 but it seems

00:32:30.780 to me that no

00:32:31.560 some of these

00:32:32.300 folks are so

00:32:33.080 impenetrable to

00:32:34.060 reason to you I

00:32:34.740 know that in your

00:32:35.560 monologue you

00:32:36.500 talked about using

00:32:37.840 feelings rather

00:32:38.880 than thought in

00:32:40.200 in choosing your

00:32:41.300 president well I

00:32:42.720 talk about this in

00:32:43.440 the parasitic mind

00:32:44.160 right most people

00:32:45.400 want to deploy

00:32:46.240 fast and frugal

00:32:47.480 heuristics to

00:32:48.340 make a decision

00:32:48.960 right well my

00:32:49.900 emotional system

00:32:50.840 is much quicker

00:32:51.820 it's autonomic

00:32:52.860 right I love

00:32:54.100 Kamala Harris I

00:32:55.540 hate Donald Trump

00:32:56.620 thinking is so

00:32:57.880 hard right it's

00:32:59.020 so effortful it's

00:33:00.420 so cumbersome best

00:33:01.900 to simply use my

00:33:03.340 emotional system

00:33:04.260 and I keep

00:33:05.100 warning people

00:33:06.000 including my

00:33:06.820 colleagues you're

00:33:08.260 trained as

00:33:09.080 psychologists use

00:33:10.400 your brain which

00:33:11.880 policies are more

00:33:13.500 in line with your

00:33:14.300 values they go

00:33:15.360 no but she's so

00:33:16.460 positive she's

00:33:17.860 joyful she's fun

00:33:19.480 I'm going with

00:33:20.620 her we need a

00:33:21.540 change they're

00:33:22.440 impenetrable to

00:33:23.520 reason yeah my

00:33:26.760 only hope in that

00:33:27.740 monologue talking

00:33:28.420 about the people

00:33:28.860 that ride along

00:33:29.400 the surface you

00:33:30.220 know who will

00:33:30.760 ultimately make

00:33:31.420 that emotional

00:33:31.940 decision is and

00:33:34.400 I don't at this

00:33:35.500 point it's hard to

00:33:36.120 find the undecided

00:33:37.220 emotional reaction

00:33:38.760 to Donald Trump

00:33:39.420 I think most

00:33:40.160 people's emotional

00:33:41.360 reaction has been

00:33:42.440 defined to Donald

00:33:43.400 Trump so it's

00:33:44.960 shocking to me

00:33:45.740 that wherever

00:33:46.080 they are

00:33:46.560 Pennsylvania

00:33:47.620 you know

00:33:48.660 Michigan

00:33:49.020 Wisconsin

00:33:49.660 I guess we

00:33:51.700 have to implore

00:33:52.160 them to think

00:33:52.760 I don't know I

00:33:53.740 don't know how the

00:33:54.280 emotions can be swayed

00:33:55.200 at this point you

00:33:55.620 have to figure out

00:33:56.280 how to think before

00:33:57.320 63 days expires and

00:33:59.340 we have election

00:33:59.840 day I look forward

00:34:02.580 to suicidal

00:34:03.440 empathy I

00:34:04.800 encourage everyone

00:34:06.000 check out

00:34:06.420 parasitic mind and

00:34:07.500 all his stuff he's

00:34:08.200 on X

00:34:08.580 Gadzad he's great

00:34:09.880 Professor Gadzad

00:34:10.680 love having you on

00:34:11.260 the Will Cain

00:34:11.680 show thanks

00:34:12.140 professor

00:34:12.580 thank you so

00:34:13.620 much cheers

00:34:14.100 all right take

00:34:16.280 care

00:34:16.460 really really smart

00:34:18.580 guy really really

00:34:19.340 forget smart

00:34:20.580 overvalued

00:34:22.340 adjective

00:34:23.140 wise

00:34:24.200 thoughtful

00:34:25.180 mind

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The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - September 04, 2024

Suicidal Empathy and Deontological Ethics - The Will Cain Show (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_707)

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