The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - The evolution of anti-Semitism in Canada with Brian Lilley (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_693)

00:00:00.000 The anti-Semitism that we've seen on the streets of Toronto, city streets across Canada, around the

00:00:05.320 world over the last seven, eight months has been truly shocking. We knew anti-Semitism was there,

00:00:11.620 we just had not seen its ugly face to the degree that we're witnessing it now. Hi, my name is

00:00:16.860 Brian Lilly, political columnist for the Toronto Sun, joined today by the Gadfather. Gad Saad is

00:00:22.820 a professor at Concordia University in Montreal. He's a successful YouTuber, a columnist with

00:00:29.020 the National Post. You've seen them everywhere. And if you haven't, well, then this is going

00:00:33.640 to be quite the good introduction for you. Gad, I wanted to have you on because following

00:00:39.380 you online and seeing you talk about it, you know, I can talk about anti-Semitism and the

00:00:46.060 impact it's having. But I'm not Jewish. You know, anti-Semitism is not a Jewish problem.

00:00:52.340 It's a problem for non-Jews like me. But you deal with the impact of it. And you've got

00:00:58.760 a unique perspective, having lived in Montreal with a strong Jewish community for so long,

00:01:04.100 having, I believe you said your family came to Canada from Lebanon at age 11. Just talk

00:01:12.360 to me for a little bit about how much things have changed since October 7th. And, you know,

00:01:18.100 with the Hamasnik campers and the protesters and the tentifadas and all of that.

00:01:22.540 Yeah, well, first, thank you so much for having me on, Brian. Look, as you mentioned,

00:01:28.880 I grew up in Lebanon. We were part of the last dwindling community of Lebanese Jews that had

00:01:36.400 steadfastly remained in Lebanon, even though my extended family had left Lebanon because the

00:01:41.980 writing was on the wall, that it was rather dangerous to be Jewish in the Middle East. But

00:01:47.900 Lebanon supposedly was the Paris of the Middle East, was a more tolerant and progressive place.

00:01:53.620 And so my family had stayed until we could no longer stay because the civil war started and it

00:01:58.880 became impossible to be Jewish in Lebanon. So then we escaped to Montreal, Canada when I was 11.

00:02:04.620 And for the next 25, 30 years, I lived in Montreal. And of course, I also lived for a while in the States.

00:02:12.620 I studied in the States and I was a visiting professor in several universities in the States.

00:02:17.980 But much of my life had been spent in Montreal. But then about 20 years ago, I started seeing some

00:02:24.240 ominous changes. And then I'll come to after October 7th in a second. And the ominous changes

00:02:30.460 manifested themselves in many ways, but one of which was the very clear increase in the Islamic 1.00

00:02:38.360 demographic in Montreal, as is the case in, for example, many places in Europe.

00:02:44.760 Now, of course, I don't need...

00:02:45.860 In Quebec, it was specifically from former French colonies because they were purposely trying to

00:02:53.840 find francophones.

00:02:55.240 Exactly.

00:02:55.500 And they were often going to places in North Africa, for example.

00:02:59.720 Exactly. So imagine you take the Algerian extremists, fundamentalist extremists who fought

00:03:05.020 against the Algerian government, but then lost that war. And then Quebec says, here's a great idea.

00:03:10.400 Why don't we let them all in in the hundreds of thousands to Montreal? Because then if they 0.77

00:03:14.660 eventually eradicate everyone in sight, they'll do it. But they'll begin by saying bonjour before

00:03:20.880 they decapitate you. So as long as you're able to address the ones that you're about to kill in

00:03:26.480 French, then all is well. It sounds as though I'm being facetious, but it's almost at that level 1.00

00:03:31.480 of imbecility. And so what you end up having is a very, very quick change in the culture. 0.82

00:03:39.600 And this is one of the reasons Montreal had a problem post 9-11 with, in the ISIS era, 0.97

00:03:49.260 with a lot of recruits coming from there, a lot of extremism happening was because of

00:03:56.400 where they had recruited new immigrants from, from areas where there had been wars, where

00:04:03.420 people had extreme beliefs.

00:04:06.220 Exactly. Now, while I noticed the very rapid Islamization in many areas of Montreal,

00:04:14.120 life was still okay, was still reasonable. I didn't get attacked on the streets for being Jewish.

00:04:20.740 Nobody bothered me at the university, even though I would get privately students come up to me,

00:04:27.200 Jewish students at Concordia many years ago saying, hey, you know, we know of your profile.

00:04:32.320 We know that you're Jewish. We know you're a high profile guy. I just want to let you know that I

00:04:35.620 never wear my kippah or I never wear a Star of David at the university. And this is well, well before

00:04:40.340 October 7th. But then October 7th happened. And here's the incredible thing, Brian. You would think

00:04:46.960 that after 1,200 people had been butchered, raped, you know, decapitated and so on. I mean,

00:04:54.760 there are only three things that could happen after such an event. Jew hatred can go down because 0.62

00:05:00.400 you empathize with what just happened to Israelis. Jew hatred can stay the same or Jew hatred can 0.97

00:05:06.360 increase. Well, lo and behold, Jew hatred has orgiastically and exponentially increased since 0.82

00:05:14.600 October 7th. And I've certainly been a recipient of that Jew hatred. It's usually coming from 1.00

00:05:20.680 three sources. There's, of course, the Islamic sources. There's also the neo-Nazi types, you know,

00:05:27.260 Jews won't replace us guys who also writes and send me all kinds of really lovely messages.

00:05:34.060 And then you get the academic progressive left types, you know, the Jews are Zionist, 0.54

00:05:39.500 colonialist and so on. And so everywhere I turn, Brian, the Jew hatred is coming at me. 0.96

00:05:44.580 Without any respite. So it's been quite a wake-up call, even for someone who grew up

00:05:50.020 in the endemic Jew hatred of the Middle East. So is it reminding you of what your family finally

00:05:58.520 said we can no longer tolerate? Absolutely. So now, look, it's not as though I can't walk down

00:06:05.220 the street today and I'm as worried as during the full-blown Lebanese Civil War. But prior to the 0.84

00:06:13.280 Civil War, so let me just give you a few stories from my childhood and then draw a corollary to

00:06:19.680 what's happening now in Montreal. So when I was five years old, Gamal Abdel Nasser, who was the

00:06:25.860 president of Egypt at the time, passed away in 1970. So I was five, about to turn six. And as so often

00:06:33.780 happens in the Middle East, when something bad happens, then everybody rushes to the streets and

00:06:38.880 these like sort of very protests with a lot of fervor and incantations and lamentations. 0.93

00:06:45.500 And as people were proceeding down my street in Beirut, I was hearing death to Jews, death to Jews, 0.89

00:06:51.780 I mean, in Arabic. And so I turned to my mother, I said, what, why are they calling for the death of

00:06:56.720 Jews? The Egyptian president just passed away, you know? And she's like, shh, just put your head down.

00:07:02.040 Don't, don't, don't make yourself seen. Second, very quick story. I'll tell you a couple of more

00:07:07.400 stories and then I'll, I'll, I'll link it to Montreal. Second story, when I was about nine or

00:07:11.600 10 years old, this is, so this is one year before the Civil War started. The teacher asks the kids

00:07:17.700 to stand up and tell us what they want to be when, when we grow up. And so, you know, I want to be a

00:07:23.280 policeman. I want to be a doctor. I want to be a nurse. I want to be a soccer player. And then one kid

00:07:27.540 goes up and says, when I go grow up, I want to be a Jew killer to raucous applause and laughter. Now, 0.99

00:07:34.540 this kid knew that I was Jewish. This is before the Civil War. Story three, my brother, one of my

00:07:40.920 brothers who's 10 years older than me had been Lebanese champion in judo for several years in a

00:07:46.980 row. And so he was, this is again, before the Civil War, before 1975. It became too shameful for a Jew 0.72

00:07:55.760 to be Lebanese champion in a combat sport. So he was visited by some men who told him that it was

00:08:02.100 time for him to retire, lest there might be an unfortunate accident that happens to him. Well,

00:08:07.980 here is the irony of life, Brian. In 1976, you might remember that the Olympics happened in Montreal.

00:08:15.400 So in 1973, 1974, he's forced to leave Lebanon to pursue his judo career in France. In 1976,

00:08:23.560 he represents Lebanon and the Montreal Olympics. So the guy who was too Jewish in 1973, 74,

00:08:32.220 we can overlook that he was Jewish in 1976 when it was important for him to carry the Lebanese flag at

00:08:39.040 the Montreal Olympics. One more quick story, and then I'll link it to Montreal.

00:08:44.480 All good.

00:08:44.840 As we, by the way, all of these stories are told, forgive the shameless plug, but it's important for

00:08:52.900 your viewers and listeners. They're all discussed in the parasitic mine in chapter one, because I'm

00:08:57.780 trying to lay the ground for what happens to a society that is ruled by identity politics, which was

00:09:03.480 the case in Lebanon. Any case, the day that we're leaving Beirut to emigrate to Montreal, Canada,

00:09:10.340 end of October 1975, as we clear the airspace of Lebanon, the captain of the plane says, okay,

00:09:20.260 we've now cleared Lebanese airspace. My mother puts a pendant around my neck with a star of David 0.85

00:09:27.720 and says, now you can wear this and not hide your identity and be proud who you are. Now let's link

00:09:34.260 it to Montreal. 2023, about two weeks after October 7th, my wife picks me up with one of our children,

00:09:45.140 our son, who had just played a soccer match in the east end of Montreal. As I walk into the car,

00:09:51.580 she had just picked me up from a cafe where I was working on my laptop. My son looks at me and says,

00:09:56.640 daddy, if you had been where I just played soccer and you were wearing a star of David,

00:10:02.260 you'd be dead. He said it at almost the exact same age that I was in 1975. In 1975, I leave Lebanon and

00:10:12.600 I can wear a star of David. In 2023, I better take off the star of David in Montreal. That hopefully

00:10:19.420 answers your question of what it's like to be in Montreal today. You still work at the university.

00:10:27.220 You still go there, correct? So luckily, I'm currently on sabbatical leave, which basically

00:10:35.000 means that I don't have to report for any administrative or teaching duties. So I've had

00:10:40.520 a six-month respite from campus, but September is coming around and let me tell you, it seems

00:10:47.580 untenable. So we'll see what happens. So I've worked in Montreal while you were away for a few years

00:10:54.700 and I saw the beginning of the anti-Semitism at Concordia and where you work would be ground

00:11:02.880 central. So those videos that so many people have posted of students being attacked at Concordia,

00:11:11.160 you know, forget the tentafata at McGill. These are students inside university buildings being attacked

00:11:16.540 because they wear a kippah or a star of David, or they've put up a poster for the hostages.

00:11:25.220 How do you not end up filled with anger and rage?

00:11:29.780 Well, I am. I try to be pragmatic and optimistic and try to keep fighting the good fight. Try to keep,

00:11:38.200 you know, I wake up every day trying to wake people up. But let me tell you, it's very hard not to be

00:11:44.060 angry and disillusioned. A couple of months ago, I had a Zoom chat with a senior administrator at my

00:11:50.700 university who told me, in the exact same way that I'm looking at you right now via Zoom, there is no

00:11:56.120 such thing as Jew hatred at Concordia. So the level... So it's... So their head is in the sand.

00:12:03.580 Exactly. And then, of course, about a month after that Zoom meeting, the president of my university

00:12:11.180 is summoned on Parliament Hill to give testimony and admit that, oh, yes, no, there is major Jew hatred at my

00:12:20.680 university. So, look, this is not to imply that, you know, every single person walking around on the

00:12:27.780 university campus is, you know, a rabid hater. But you don't know who's a hater and who's not. You don't know who's

00:12:32.860 going to cause you trouble or not. So... My guess is it's a small minority. But a friend of mine who

00:12:38.720 works in the polling business likes to say small numbers can be big numbers. And the first time he

00:12:44.980 said that to me, he said, well, what do you mean? He said, well, if just 5% of Canadians are raging

00:12:50.000 anti-Semites, that's still 2 million adults. Well, let me... That's a lot of people to be worried

00:12:57.260 about it. Let me contextualize that number in a much more negative way. There is, you know,

00:13:03.620 Pew, the Pew polling outfit are certainly, they're non-partisan, respectable outfit that does

00:13:12.960 global surveys on all sorts of issues. I think it was in 2010, they took a survey across many Islamic

00:13:21.100 countries, exploring the... How the people of different countries, so it could be Egypt,

00:13:29.140 could be Syria, could be Lebanon, could be Pakistan. What do they feel for the Jews, right? Now, your

00:13:36.540 friend, the example that you gave, you said, well, you know, if it's 5% of Canadians that are anti-Semite,

00:13:41.200 boy, that's a big number. Well, let me contextualize that number for you, Brian. Across all those cultures,

00:13:47.780 anywhere, well, not every single one of them, some of them were in the 70s, but in many cultures,

00:13:54.960 it was 95 to 99% of the surveyed people had endemic Jew hatred, well, towards the Jews. So let me

00:14:05.240 repeat that. So if I sample 1,000 people, 950 of the randomly sampled people exhibit negative views of

00:14:15.540 the Jews. So now let's see if we can close that circle. If I let in hundreds of thousands of people 0.99

00:14:22.420 into my society that hail from those cultures, does it take a fancy professor to predict whether

00:14:29.500 Jew hatred will be on the up or down in Canada? So, oh my God, Jew hatred is up in Canada.

00:14:35.980 What could have caused this? It's a mystery.

00:14:38.440 Well, there's the two sides, and we'll talk about the other side in a minute, that being the academic

00:14:44.880 side. But I mean, my major issue with how the current government has dealt with immigration and

00:14:56.040 multiculturalism is their view of multiculturalism does not include standing up for Canadian values,

00:15:02.660 unless Canadian values means voting liberal. And so there is not the push to say,

00:15:09.580 I should come to Canada, you leave your old hatreds behind. Now, my parents came here from Glasgow,

00:15:17.960 that's a city that was a mini Belfast at one point, with the hatred, the violence.

00:15:23.740 They did not associate with an awful lot of Protestants in Glasgow. Guess what happened when

00:15:33.860 they came here? They did. You left your old hatreds behind. My neighborhood was filled with

00:15:38.460 people who came from conflict zones. They left their old struggles behind. We don't tell people

00:15:44.360 to do that anymore. And when Ontario Premier Doug Ford suggested that a little while ago at a news

00:15:49.840 conference. Oh, my goodness, you're blaming immigrants for violence. You're, you're horrible.

00:15:53.880 You're racist. That's part of what is going on in Canada right now. Right. So a couple of things to 1.00

00:16:01.560 unpack there. Multiculturalism, small m, could be a very good thing. So for example, if I say Concordia 1.00

00:16:09.840 as a multicultural campus, well, that's nice. And that there are people from many, many, there's a rich

00:16:15.800 tapestry of ethnicities, of languages, of cultural heritage, and it adds a vibrancy to the place.

00:16:22.300 That's good. Multicultural with a capital M as a political philosophy, as, as originally enacted by

00:16:29.500 the, the, the father of the current prime minister is a terrible idea because it is actually founded

00:16:37.100 on a idea pathogen, a parasitic idea, which I discussed in the parasitic mind. And that idea

00:16:43.880 of parasite is called cultural relativism. Cultural relativism says it is imperialistic of you to

00:16:51.100 judge the cultural beliefs and the religious beliefs of another society. That's a form of

00:16:57.720 colonization. It's a form of imperialism. Who are you to judge such things as honor brides or,

00:17:04.800 I mean, honor killings or child brides or cutting off of clitorises of little girls. Don't you, 1.00

00:17:10.520 you have no right to judge the ways of another culture. If you remember our current prime minister,

00:17:17.260 when he was an MP and Stephen Harper was, his government was putting out a leaflet saying,

00:17:24.540 these are certain actions that we don't tolerate in Canada because they're barbaric. If you remember in

00:17:31.860 a very exaggerated manner, Justin Trudeau with his flowing hair went on camera and, and was very angered

00:17:39.860 by the fact that he had used that Harper had used the word barbaric in describing those practices.

00:17:46.600 He wasn't upset because those practices are barbaric. He was upset that someone referred to

00:17:53.620 them as barbaric because this here you have language creates reality. We need to be empathetic in our

00:17:59.340 language. Don't call people illegal, call them undocumented immigrants. Don't call people rapists.

00:18:05.340 That marginalizes the noble rape community, right? And so we can get into Justin Trudeau if you want, 0.59

00:18:12.260 but that whole idea of multiculturalism with a capital M comes from a dreadful political philosophy.

00:18:18.760 If you come to Canada, you abide, as you said, by our foundational values. If you don't want to leave

00:18:25.920 those at the door, then we'll send you back to where you came from.

00:18:28.900 Yeah. Well, so I was just trying to look up the name, couldn't find it quickly of the gentleman I

00:18:35.460 always, I used to use on, on TV years ago on this cultural relativism idea that all cultures are

00:18:43.500 equal or that we should accept everything from all cultures. When the British ruled India,

00:18:48.320 there was a practice of sati. If a man died, the wife had to be thrown on his funeral pyre and be

00:18:55.460 burnt to death. And I wish I had his name, but the British governor, local governor said,

00:19:02.640 stop this. And they said, well, that's our custom. We're going to do our custom. And he said,

00:19:06.940 in my country, our custom is to hang men who kill women. So you keep your custom and I'll keep mine. 0.98

00:19:16.100 And guess what? The practice ended. I'm not going to say that it ended completely. I'm sure it was

00:19:22.100 still practice elsewhere, but they weren't openly throwing women on top of the burning heap of their

00:19:28.320 husband's funeral pyre. The idea that we just accept all cultures. I mean, that is a parasitic 0.80

00:19:34.420 idea, but part of the parasitic mind. So. And by the way, it comes originally. So in the parasitic 0.94

00:19:40.860 mind, in my 2020 book, I, I describe all of these parasitic ideas and I explain where they originate

00:19:46.900 from regrettably, as I sit here as a three decades long professor, all of these dreadful ideas come 0.97

00:19:54.180 from academia because it takes intellectuals to come up with some of the dumbest ideas. 0.56

00:19:58.680 Well, this particular one, cultural relativism comes from Franz Boas, who was a anthropologist 0.88

00:20:05.280 at, if I remember Columbia University, this is about a hundred years ago. And many anthropologists

00:20:11.020 had seen that biology can be misused by all sorts of cretins, right? So social quote Darwinists, 0.92

00:20:21.180 British class elite has said, Hey, we're the upper class. You guys are the lower class. If you die out

00:20:26.640 in your tuberculosis laid laden neighborhoods, well, who cares? That's just natural selection. That's just

00:20:33.100 the Darwinian struggle. The Nazis came along later and said, Hey, there's a natural struggle between

00:20:37.280 races. Sorry, Jews. Sorry, gypsies. Sorry, homosexuals. You lost out in the Darwinian race. 1.00

00:20:42.420 Hey, it's only natural that we exterminate you. And so because all sorts of miscreants misused 1.00

00:20:49.240 evolutionary theory, anthropologists decided, well, what if we were to create a new vision of what

00:20:56.040 human behavior looks like that completely rejects the fact that human beings are biological beings?

00:21:02.440 Because if you accept the fact that human beings are biological beings, that means there is a shared

00:21:06.900 biological heritage. There are absolute moral truths. But if we say that everything is relative,

00:21:14.760 all cultures are relative, everything is idiosyncratic, there is no such thing as a human

00:21:19.720 or moral universal, then we can reduce the likelihood that people will misuse biology in the future. So in

00:21:27.380 the service of what originally seemed like a noble goal, you end up murdering and raping truth in the 0.85

00:21:34.180 service of that goal. And what I argue in each of those parasitic ideas, it always starts off as a

00:21:41.380 noble goal, right? So for example, radical feminism started off as equity feminism. Well, equity feminism 0.51

00:21:48.420 basically says, hey, men and women should be treated equally under the law. There is no reason why a man 0.90

00:21:53.580 should be paid more than a woman for the exact same job. Based on that tenet, you and I would say, 1.00

00:21:58.360 yeah, sign me up, I'm an equity feminist. The problem then comes when radical feminists say, 1.00

00:22:03.820 well, in the pursuit of eradicating the sexist patriarchal status quo, let's now promulgate the

00:22:10.500 idea that men and women are indistinguishable from each other, that there is no such thing as an

00:22:16.240 evolutionary-based sex difference between men and women. It's all due to social construction. By saying

00:22:22.480 that, maybe we could get rid of the patriarchy more quickly. So it starts off in a noble manner,

00:22:28.140 and then it metamorphosizes into complete gunk.

00:22:32.980 So how then did the academy become so anti-Semitic? Because if you listen to the old anti-Semitic tropes,

00:22:40.220 well, Jews control the university, and Jews control the media. Let me tell you, if that's true, 1.00

00:22:45.960 you're doing a really bad job of a cat, because, you know, both the academic world and my world of media

00:22:53.500 filled with anti-Semitism. So why are you doing such a bad control, bad job controlling all these

00:23:01.340 things? No, on the serious note, how did the academy, the academic world become so anti-Semitic?

00:23:07.780 So there are several possible explanations here, and several of them work in tandem. So

00:23:14.080 in terms of the current strain of, you know, the Zionists, you know, we love Jews, it's just we 0.97

00:23:19.680 hate Zionists, wink, wink. There what you're doing is, there's been about 30, 40, 50 years 1.00

00:23:25.840 of infiltration within the political science departments, or some departments they're called

00:23:31.040 Near East Studies, or in the past they used to call them Oriental Studies, meaning the Mid-Orient,

00:23:36.860 the Middle East. All these programs have been completely hijacked by one narrative. And let me

00:23:43.040 summarize that narrative for you so that I can save your children $80,000 a year from being

00:23:48.040 parasitized at Columbia University. Until 1948, Jews and noble, peaceful Palestinians lived hand in hand

00:23:56.540 together, walking around, singing John Lennon's Imagine. It was all beautiful. There was nothing

00:24:02.760 but love in the Middle East. Then in 1948, there are some really, really nasty white Zionist colonialists 0.98

00:24:10.380 who came from Europe, because Jews have absolutely no ancestral claim to that land. There is absolutely 0.97

00:24:15.440 no evidence that Jews have ever existed in Judea, right? And so therefore, they came there. And then 1.00

00:24:22.540 since 1948, they've been involved in a systematic genocide and eradication of the noble, peaceful

00:24:30.380 Palestinian people. But although their population has grown fivefold during that time, so not only are we

00:24:38.420 really bad in leading the academy, as you were joking earlier, we also suck at committing genocide,

00:24:44.020 because the population has grown fivefold. So if you are a moronic, lobotomized 20-year-old 1.00

00:24:50.660 who walks into a classroom, and that's what's being taught to you, well, what do you do then? Is it 1.00

00:24:57.340 surprising that you would wear your KKK keffiyeh and go out and say, free, free Palestine? Because you have 0.94

00:25:03.180 absolutely no clue. Your professor told you that the Jews have these really nasty Zionist tanks, 0.99

00:25:08.400 and the Palestinians only have slingshots to fight with you, right? You're not told the rest of the 0.98

00:25:13.620 story. So that's one type of Jew hatred that comes out of academia. Another one that's not necessarily

00:25:19.520 specific to only academics, here I'm going to get psychological for a second, there is a mechanism

00:25:26.360 in psychology called the self-serving bias. The self-serving bias is the idea that human beings

00:25:34.160 have this uncanny ability of attributing successes internally and failures externally. So I did really

00:25:41.700 well on the exam because I'm a smart guy and I studied hard. On the other hand, if I did very poorly

00:25:47.060 on the exam, well, that's because Professor Saad is a mean guy, he's a Zionist, he's a Jew. That's why I did 1.00

00:25:53.240 poorly. So you can understand why people have that self-serving bias because it's an ego protection

00:25:59.300 mechanism. All successes are because of my disposition. All failures are because of the

00:26:04.660 outside world. Now imagine if you can use the Jew as the ultimate source of all your failures, 1.00

00:26:12.460 the external, right? So if you get diabetes, it's the fault of the Jew. If your wife just cheated on you, 0.98

00:26:18.220 it's because it's the Jew who put those lascivious ideas in her head because Jews are the ones who 1.00

00:26:22.960 peddle pornography. So this is why I've created a game called Six Degrees of Jew. It's similar to Six 0.99

00:26:30.900 Degrees of Kevin Bacon. But what I do basically is I offer you a calamity and I give you up to six

00:26:38.400 causal links to link it to the Jews. So let's play the game if you want. Okay. Okay. Bizarre game, but okay. 0.78

00:26:46.080 An Amazonian frog just died in the Amazon. Please blame the Jew in six or fewer steps. Maybe you 1.00

00:26:54.120 won't be able to come up with it, but believe me, I post these on social media and people play along

00:27:00.440 many times facetiously and they always are able to blame the Jew in six or fewer steps. Can I just say

00:27:07.080 one more thing and then I'll turn this? Yeah. So let me give you an example of how that actually

00:27:12.420 operates, not facetiously. So I put up on social media. So are you familiar with the British grooming 0.73

00:27:19.300 gangs? Euphemistically called grooming gangs. Okay. So up and down England, all over from very small

00:27:25.280 towns to larger towns, Huddersfield, Rockdale, Rotherham, Oxford, everywhere, up and down, Newcastle,

00:27:31.140 everywhere. There are for the past 25, 30 years, industrial scale level grooming and gang rapes of

00:27:38.920 young white British girls by Asian men. They're Asian, but by the way, I'm also Asian. I'm from

00:27:45.020 Lebanon, but they're, they don't mean Asian Jews, right? Because it's a euphemism for men of a certain

00:27:50.640 religious ideology. Okay. So I put up a, uh, uh, not lineup. What do you call the mugshots? The mugshots

00:27:59.900 of the gang. I think they're called the gang of 20 of Huddersfield, which is a small town in England.

00:28:06.060 Now, just to summarize for you, their names, it's Muhammad, Ahmad, Ahmad, Muhammad, Ahmad, Ahmad,

00:28:12.200 Ahmad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Hussein, Hussein, Muhammad. So I put this up on

00:28:17.480 social media and I said, I'm not smart enough to be able to see what, what unifying theme there is

00:28:23.580 across these men. Could anybody help me? Guess what? A lot of people wrote to me, not facetiously,

00:28:29.720 who did they blame? Oh, you. Why? Because you're Jewish. No, but, but why? What, why is it when 0.95

00:28:37.820 three Mohammeds gang raped the British girl, it's Mordechai to blame? Why? I have no idea. It's 0.99

00:28:45.300 because it's the Jews who operate behind the scenes in an open border cabal. So who let them, but by the 0.97

00:28:53.760 way, that's, that's, that's insanely false, but never let facts get in the way of a good Jew.

00:29:00.000 They're claiming that these grooming gangs, which are real, that they, you know, I've had people deny

00:29:08.860 them for years. That's why I have to say they're real, that, that they exist because of an open

00:29:13.200 border policy pushed by some Jewish cabal in the background. Absolutely. Same thing in Canada. 0.94

00:29:19.880 Same thing because, so I'll give you one example of that argument. George Soros is a Hungarian Jew, 0.89

00:29:27.860 although, you know, Jew in quotes, not much of a Jew, but okay, he's, he's Jewish. He was an acolyte 0.61

00:29:34.520 of Karl Popper, who was a Jewish philosopher who started the whole movement of the open society.

00:29:41.960 And therefore, with his billions of dollars, George Soros is pushing the idea of the open society. 0.94

00:29:50.860 So ultimately, the, the, the causal machination behind the fact that three Mohammeds raped your 0.97

00:29:58.080 daughter can always be linked back to the Jew, right? Now, of course, by the way, that's insanely 0.99

00:30:03.300 false in that it's not true that when it comes to British immigration, it's the Jews that were,

00:30:09.360 you know, pulling the puppeteering string or that it's the case in Canada. And by the way,

00:30:13.220 I'm Jewish and I'm anti-open door policy. So why do you take the example of the one Jew who is for 1.00

00:30:18.700 open border, but you don't look at the Jew who's anti-open border, but again, nothing, no facts will

00:30:24.980 stop the Jew hating. And that's, what's the most disconcerting part of this post-October 7th is that

00:30:32.020 there is no amount of professorial evidence that I can offer the Jew hater to get him to even

00:30:39.320 reconsider his position. Anything that I say is only proof of how much of a scheming, diabolical 0.96

00:30:47.920 parasite I am. How can you win under such an environment? 0.98

00:30:51.220 So what do you do and how do you respond? I've talked to a bunch of friends, acquaintances,

00:31:02.380 people I've just met over the past several months as they've been dealing with the increase,

00:31:08.320 the openness of it. And I've seen you post thought bubbles or questions about this.

00:31:17.640 Do you leave Canada? Do you leave North America? Um, you know, I've heard some people say, well,

00:31:25.320 Israel's safer. That is objectively not true at the moment. You may feel safer, but there's still a

00:31:32.200 war going on. You've got Hezbollah about to launch a full scale attack, but I understand the, the desire 0.99

00:31:40.160 to say, Hmm, maybe it's time to leave here. Where is your head at on that?

00:31:44.660 Well, thank you for that question. I've sat with my wife at exactly that same cafe where earlier I,

00:31:51.900 I told you that they were picking me up one of my kids and my wife, and she's looked at me and said,

00:31:57.180 where to next God? Now imagine that in the 21st century, a Canadian professor who's been fighting

00:32:04.240 for Canadian values, you know, you know, freedom of speech, equal rights. I mean, all the things that

00:32:12.020 any classical liberal person, true liberal, not liberal in the Justin Trudeau sense, but a true,

00:32:17.860 you know, individual dignity, meritocracy, all of the values that we would think have been enshrined

00:32:23.320 within the Canadian ethos. A professor who's been here since 1975, now looks at his wife,

00:32:30.060 I'm speaking of myself and says, I think it's time for us to leave. And, and I'll say this,

00:32:35.000 you know, it's, it's not a secret. My wife and I have been trying to leave for many years now. And,

00:32:39.380 and there is actually now some, some escape strategies that are opening up for us.

00:32:44.540 Is that a good thing? Do you think it's, I mean, and I don't, I don't mean, I'm not trying to toot my

00:32:49.660 own horn as if like, oh, if God were to leave, it's a loss for Canada. But if God leaves and 7,000

00:32:57.620 other people who would add value to Canada leave, and they're replaced by people who come from societies 0.87

00:33:05.480 that would not be defending Canadian values, the way God's side is, would that be a net benefit to

00:33:11.120 Canada? Well, to Justin Trudeau, it certainly would be a net benefit. But to the average Canadian from

00:33:16.220 whom I received beautiful letters of gratitude and kindness, that's not a good thing. So to be honest

00:33:21.420 with you, I don't see our future being in Canada, because I think that the demographic realities are

00:33:26.920 such now that it is only going to get worse. And anything that is to reverse those trends would

00:33:33.940 simply be too cataclysmic for Canada to ever implement. I only see us doubling down on our

00:33:39.740 insanity. That's why, by the way, my next book is called Suicidal Empathy. Because what happens in

00:33:46.220 many of these progressive policies, it always starts with a misdirected, misdirect, miscalibrated

00:33:54.900 sense of empathy, right? I mean, who are we in the United States to stop the noble Guatemalan and

00:34:02.180 El Salvadorian gang members to come into the United States? Don't they have as much of a right to 1.00

00:34:07.600 experience the American dream? Well, no, they don't, right?

00:34:11.980 MS-13? No, not a fan.

00:34:14.220 Exactly. But see, that's racist of you, because now you're implying that all El Salvadorians are

00:34:19.760 MS-13. No, I'm not. Life is a statistical...

00:34:22.760 No, we're talking about gang members here.

00:34:24.420 Exactly. So all of these policies, whether it be policies for the homeless, whether it be

00:34:31.780 immigration policies, whether it be penal policies in terms of how often should a felon get a 75th

00:34:40.300 chance at life, all of these policies are rooted in suicidal empathy. Empathy is great. As an

00:34:47.100 evolutionary psychologist, I study why emotions have evolved and why they can be adaptive. So there is,

00:34:54.060 there is room for envy and empathy and compassion and all of these emotions to exist within the

00:35:01.760 repertoire of the human mind. But the problem arises when empathy misfires, right? When empathy

00:35:07.860 is directed to the wrong target. You and I have evolved to be, to differentiate between jumping in front

00:35:15.180 of a bus to save our own biological children than to save a random kid. That doesn't make us callous.

00:35:22.180 It makes us an evolutionary being. So yes, I want to save all children, but it makes perfect adaptive

00:35:28.420 sense for me to love my child more than a random child. That's why I have a lock on my front door,

00:35:36.280 because while I am empathetic to the homeless, I recognize that I can't let them all into my home.

00:35:42.260 That doesn't make me a nasty, callous person. It makes me a Darwinian being that's able to

00:35:47.060 distinguish between whom I should met this empathy for. The Western progressives don't have that

00:35:54.160 ability to modulate their empathy. That's why we are in the quagmire that we're in.

00:35:59.380 And why you, along with so many others, are questioning whether they're going to stay here.

00:36:04.720 Gad, it makes me sad to hear that, but I do thank you for your time. You've been very generous.

00:36:10.040 We've probably gone well over time, but it was a great conversation. We'll continue to follow and

00:36:16.460 interact online. Do find them on X and on YouTube and elsewhere. Thanks so much.

00:36:22.820 Thank you, Brian. Cheers.

The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - June 28, 2024

The evolution of anti-Semitism in Canada with Brian Lilley (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_693)

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