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The Genesis and Rise of Jew-Hatred (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_616)


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In this episode, Rabbi Shukran talks about growing up as a Jew in the Middle East and why he left it. He shares stories of growing up in a very anti-Semitic environment and how he managed to escape it.

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00:00:00.560 Well, hello, hello, hello, everybody.
00:00:04.060 This is a very special space, and thank you for being here.
00:00:11.760 Brother Gad is with us.
00:00:15.620 I think I will mute you first, and then we will talk later.
00:00:21.760 I just want to greet everybody, and I'm honored to have our guests here.
00:00:30.460 Professor Gad Saad.
00:00:32.920 I have known him for years, and he hosted me one time, a long time ago.
00:00:38.860 He's an author, and he's a professor.
00:00:42.340 He's also a guest speaker on many shows and podcasts and different places on universities, campuses.
00:00:56.060 And he is also related to what's going on right now because of his background.
00:01:03.980 He is of a Jewish-Lebanese background, so he can speak to what's happening right now in the Middle East and in the West.
00:01:15.080 So, I just want to welcome Professor Gad Saad.
00:01:22.640 Ahlan Bik.
00:01:24.940 Ahlan, kif saktak, shukran.
00:01:26.840 You still know Arabic, huh?
00:01:28.240 Of course, I speak Arabic at home.
00:01:32.380 Oh, that's beautiful.
00:01:35.800 I'm honored to have you here with us, and thank you for accepting the invitation.
00:01:41.500 It's an honor for me.
00:01:42.680 Thank you so much for having me.
00:01:45.380 I appreciate it.
00:01:45.960 It's been too long since we last spoke to each other, so I'll need to invite you back on the show soon.
00:01:50.500 Yes, I would love to.
00:01:52.100 So, let's start.
00:01:54.300 It's crazy what's going on, and I just want, probably many people do not know your story.
00:02:02.900 I want you to share a little bit of your background and how you left Lebanon and being a Jew, Lebanese, how did it go for you and why you left Lebanon?
00:02:17.060 Right.
00:02:18.280 Well, hello to everybody who's here.
00:02:20.500 Thank you for joining us.
00:02:21.420 I was born in Lebanon, grew up in Lebanon, so, of course, Arabic is my mother tongue.
00:02:29.400 We were part of the last remaining very small group of Jews that had stayed in Lebanon.
00:02:35.660 Most of my extended family had left before the start of the Lebanese Civil War, which started in 1975, but we doggedly refused to leave.
00:02:47.340 We thought that, you know, we're Lebanese, we're going to stay. 0.98
00:02:49.660 But then once, unfortunately, the Lebanese Civil War began, it became impossible to be Jewish in Lebanon.
00:02:56.840 And so, we left the first year of the war.
00:03:00.760 My parents returned to Lebanon on a few occasions after we had emigrated to Canada.
00:03:08.120 On one of their return trips in 1980, they were kidnapped by Fatah, one of the PLO militia groups, and some really bad things happened.
00:03:21.020 But then luckily, they weren't executed.
00:03:23.980 So, once they left in 1980, no one in my family has gone back.
00:03:28.160 How was it generally growing up in Lebanon?
00:03:31.460 Well, you know, anti-Semitism, as you know, Brother Rashid, is something that is the renewable energy source in the Middle East.
00:03:41.520 So, even in the context of, quote, progressive and tolerant Lebanon, there was always anti-Semitism and Jew hatred.
00:03:50.960 Now, that doesn't mean that you couldn't go about your daily life, but you knew that, you know, any day things can go badly.
00:03:56.920 So, I'll just share maybe a couple of stories if I can, and then I'll go back to you.
00:04:03.020 So, when I was five years old in Lebanon, Gamal Abdel Nasser, who was the president of Egypt at the time, a pan-Arabist, had just passed away.
00:04:15.360 And as often happens in the Middle East, people take to the street, they start lamenting, screaming, and shouting. 0.53
00:04:21.900 And as I was sitting on the balcony of our house, there was this huge procession of protesters coming down the street. 0.99
00:04:29.700 And all I could hear was, death to Jews, death to Jews. 0.73
00:04:33.320 And then my mother comes and kind of takes me inside, says, you know, come inside, it's too dangerous. 0.98
00:04:38.180 And I remember that was the first time where I kind of wondered, why are they screaming death to Jews?
00:04:43.580 What does the death of the Egyptian president have to do with us? 0.68
00:04:48.040 Why do they want to kill us?
00:04:49.960 The second quick story was, I was about eight or nine years old, and the teacher asked every student in the class to get up and say, what do they want to be when they grow up?
00:05:00.600 So, somebody gets up, I want to be a doctor, I want to be a policeman, I want to be a soccer player. 0.79
00:05:05.120 And then one of the kids, who was a friend of mine, I played soccer with him, got up and said, when I grow up, I want to be a Jew killer. 0.93
00:05:12.760 And everybody laughed and clapped. 0.93
00:05:14.860 So, that's story number two.
00:05:17.540 And story number three, when we left Lebanon, the day that we left Lebanon, when we got into the plane heading towards Montreal through Copenhagen,
00:05:31.400 as we cleared the airspace of Lebanon, the pilot said, we are now outside of Lebanese airspace.
00:05:39.940 So, my mother put a pendant around my neck, you know, with a, like, Star of David high, like a sign of life, like a Jewish sign.
00:05:49.920 And she said, now you can wear this, be proud and not hide your identity.
00:05:55.000 So, even when people think of so-called the Paris of the Middle East and progressive Lebanon, there was always Jew hatred everywhere. 0.80
00:06:02.880 Wow, that's really very moving stories.
00:06:10.520 And I don't know, I don't know how you still feel as events are happening right now and probably bring some memories.
00:06:19.880 Anyways, I just, let me, I think, muting the mic will help because there's an echo in the background.
00:06:29.260 So, I want to move to what's happening right now because, as you see, there is a rise of anti-Semitism everywhere in campuses, in the streets.
00:06:45.160 Just last night, somebody died in LA, a man named Paul Kessler, he's a Jew, and he was hit on his head and he died.
00:07:03.340 And there are many incidents.
00:07:05.820 Somebody died, I think, a lady in Michigan, another person in Paris.
00:07:11.740 So, it's in Europe, in America, everywhere.
00:07:16.420 I saw protests in Australia, in Sydney, and they are shouting gas the Jews.
00:07:24.260 So, how do you feel as this rise of anti-Semitism around us right now related to the war in the Middle East?
00:07:35.100 Thanks for that question.
00:07:36.380 Well, it's, in a sense, it's even, I don't want to say it's scarier than growing up in Lebanon.
00:07:42.860 The difference is that the amount of Jew hatred that I'm exposed to because of social media makes it seem as though it's in every corner of every millimeter, right?
00:07:56.720 Because, you know, when you're growing up in Lebanon in the 1970s, yes, of course, there's Jew hatred everywhere.
00:08:02.680 But I can't go on Twitter and have, you know, 75,000 messages of incredible Jew hatred.
00:08:11.000 And so, it's uniquely challenging in today's environment where the spread of the hate can happen so quickly and so forcefully.
00:08:21.640 It's like a tsunami of hate.
00:08:23.820 The other thing I would say that's unique to the current situation that maybe was different in growing up in the Middle East.
00:08:31.040 When I was growing up in the Middle East, the source of the hate, you know, is coming from the dynamics of the Middle East, largely from Islamic sources. 0.97
00:08:39.140 But, of course, also, you know, some Christian Lebanese were very anti-Semitic.
00:08:43.460 Whereas now, you have completely different groups that are united in their commitment to Jew hatred. 0.79
00:08:51.040 So, you've got, of course, the Islamic forces.
00:08:53.420 You've got the progressive leftists from universities, the, you know, the students and the professors from the Near East studies programs, all of whom are, you know, shouting all kinds of Jew hatred stuff. 0.85
00:09:05.800 And then you've got the super ultra right-wing guys, the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists that are also coming at me with their hatred. 0.81
00:09:12.020 So, everywhere I turn, there's someone from a different camp, but they are equally committed to hating the Jew. 0.99
00:09:19.660 How do you explain it?
00:09:21.480 Why it's rising right now and it's everywhere, as you said?
00:09:28.000 And what does it have to do with the war between Israel and Hamas?
00:09:33.700 Right.
00:09:33.960 Well, all that's happened is that we've created the environment that condones the Jew hatred. 0.75
00:09:41.420 So, I don't think it's something that somehow magically came about starting October 7th.
00:09:47.440 But there is a match that you light, and that match then ignites something that already was there and dormant, right?
00:09:56.460 So, for example, I mean, now it's kind of difficult for me to have conversations in Arabic with people who don't know who, like many people know who I am, so they won't tell me what they think of the Jew.
00:10:08.780 But growing up, even in Montreal, when I would be meeting with, you know, people who spoke Arabic but didn't know that I was Jewish, the kind of insanity that I would hear about the Jew. 1.00
00:10:21.280 I mean, if you say, hello, how are you? Kill the Jew. It's sunny outside, kill the Jew. It's raining outside, kill the Jew, right? 1.00
00:10:28.700 So, I don't think the Jew hatred is something that is unique to today. 0.98
00:10:34.600 What's regrettable is that in the West, it is now no longer necessary to hide that hatred, right?
00:10:41.880 So, for example, if you think about hatreds that people might have towards black people,
00:10:46.800 well, the society has sufficiently evolved that you won't be welcomed in polite society if you say the N-word, right?
00:10:54.640 People expect you to not do it that way.
00:10:57.700 Well, now it is perfectly okay to go on Twitter, even people who are not anonymous,
00:11:03.940 who are coming at me with their full name and they feel fully secure in sharing what they think of the Jew.
00:11:10.940 It's unbelievable, Rashid.
00:11:12.600 Yeah, how do you explain that even people who, I mean, younger generations in campuses,
00:11:23.700 in schools, in different places, and they share the same thing, is it contagious?
00:11:31.320 Is it like some, I know you teach psychology, marketing psychology, I think, as I remember from your book.
00:11:42.420 Evolution psychology, consumer psychology, yes.
00:11:45.160 Consumer psychology.
00:11:46.320 So, I'm sure there is an explanation why people are, I see young kids, like just high schoolers,
00:12:00.040 and they also share the same hatred towards Jews.
00:12:04.200 They had no experience, firsthand experience with Jews. 0.52
00:12:08.140 Right, well, look, so let me bring an example from consumer psychology, and then I'll hopefully answer your question.
00:12:16.840 One of the reasons why there are laws in terms of what is the minimal age at which you can advertise to children,
00:12:25.140 it's because the psychological mechanism is that you shouldn't be able to target children with advertisements
00:12:32.540 when the children don't know that you're trying to persuade them to buy something, right?
00:12:38.240 So, if they are below an age where you can do that,
00:12:41.260 then the argument is that it is morally and ethically inappropriate to be targeting children.
00:12:46.100 Okay, so now remember that, what I just said.
00:12:48.300 Now, but imagine if, on the one hand, I say I can't sell you chewing gum,
00:12:53.520 and I can't sell you candy, because it's immoral to do so, because you're only nine years old,
00:12:58.420 but on the other hand, when you come out straight out of the womb,
00:13:02.100 I already teach you all the stories about the Jew.
00:13:05.680 So, the child has no chance. 0.95
00:13:07.580 He can't erect any psychological defenses against your nonsense, 0.95
00:13:11.980 and therefore, he perfectly grows up believing that all of the problems of the world are the Jew. 1.00
00:13:17.700 The Jew is diabolical. 1.00
00:13:19.120 He is a usurper. 1.00
00:13:20.500 He is a devil. 1.00
00:13:21.880 He, you know, he will corrupt your mind. 1.00
00:13:24.600 He will corrupt your society.
00:13:26.480 And that's precisely why you have to get to children at a very young age.
00:13:30.420 That's why religions work so well.
00:13:32.280 If I'm born in Mecca, I will believe all the stories about Islam. 1.00
00:13:36.100 If I'm born in Rome, I'll believe all the stories about Jesus. 0.90
00:13:39.420 If I'm born in Jerusalem, I'll believe all the stories in Judaism and the parting of the Red Sea. 0.93
00:13:43.900 That's why religion requires me to be able to brainwash you straight out of your mother's womb. 0.99
00:13:50.380 And so, is it any surprise that if you teach children, never mind when they're very young,
00:13:55.820 when they then go to university, they are taught in every political science program.
00:14:00.700 Here's what they're taught.
00:14:02.040 Okay, you ready?
00:14:03.160 Yeah.
00:14:03.320 Until 1948, Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in this nirvana, beautiful peace.
00:14:12.620 And everybody was loved and everybody was hugging and dancing to John Lennon music.
00:14:18.540 Then in 1948, these really mean people who are not indigenous to the land were brought in from Europe 0.99
00:14:25.920 with absolutely no ancestral tie to the land. 0.90
00:14:29.440 They were vicious, nasty Zionists who took the very welcoming, loving, peaceful Palestinians 1.00
00:14:36.400 and have engaged in a brutal 75-year occupation and ethnic cleansing over the past 75 years. 0.97
00:14:46.040 Well, if I'm taught that repeatedly everywhere I turn, then it's not going to be surprising
00:14:52.160 that I'll wake up one day and say, when it comes to the battle between Israel and Palestine, 0.62
00:14:58.660 one group is the oppressor, the other group is the oppressed. 0.98
00:15:02.400 It's very clear the Israeli defense forces are maniacal killers. 0.84
00:15:07.400 The Palestinians are absolutely nobly peaceful. 1.00
00:15:10.380 Even when they kill 1,400 people and they rape them and they decapitate them, 0.97
00:15:14.560 they only did it because of the brutal occupation. 0.88
00:15:19.220 So the Palestinian doesn't have personal agency. 0.98
00:15:22.060 Anything that he does is because the devilish Jew did this to him. 1.00
00:15:26.320 And I'm taught that since I'm two years old. 0.98
00:15:28.660 So it's not surprising that I would then hate the Israelis and the Jews. 1.00
00:15:33.500 Interesting. 0.77
00:15:34.360 It's just very interesting.
00:15:36.920 Do you think, do you think, okay, I grew up, let me say it this way.
00:15:42.160 I grew up as a Muslim.
00:15:43.400 I was consuming hatred towards Jews, even though I never met one one day at that age. 1.00
00:15:52.780 But the stories and seeing the news every day about Palestinians being subject to aggression from the Jews 0.98
00:16:05.960 just gave me more reasons to hate Jews and to wish if they were wiped out of the face of earth. 1.00
00:16:16.200 And even when I went to the mosque, we cried, actually, sometimes. 0.99
00:16:21.660 We cried.
00:16:22.520 We did it genuinely.
00:16:24.000 It's not really fake. 1.00
00:16:25.420 We cried that God should just help our brothers and sisters in Palestine and wipe out the Jews and kill them and get rid of them. 1.00
00:16:39.680 We cursed them. 1.00
00:16:40.540 We did everything that we could.
00:16:43.120 Let me ask you this.
00:16:44.540 Do you think religion, in particular Islam, helped this hatred to be shared among many nations like Pakistan, Afghanistan,
00:16:57.360 all the countries that had no direct involvement with Israel or with the Jews?
00:17:05.920 Do I have to put the microphone on to speak, or can I speak even when it's off?
00:17:11.900 How does that work?
00:17:13.360 You need to put it on when I mute you because sometimes there is an echo just for technical reasons.
00:17:19.980 But you've heard me all the other times I spoke.
00:17:21.920 I wasn't speaking.
00:17:22.460 Of course.
00:17:23.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:23.880 Okay.
00:17:25.000 It is absolutely within the doctrines of Islam, right?
00:17:28.880 It doesn't come out of magic.
00:17:30.180 It doesn't come out of, you know, the water that you're drinking, right?
00:17:34.540 You know, there is an endless number of Jew hatred.
00:17:38.680 I mean, as you certainly know this, Rashid, but maybe some of our listeners don't.
00:17:43.200 You know, there are two periods with Muhammad. 0.94
00:17:46.080 There's the Meccan period and the Medinan period.
00:17:48.740 In the Meccan period, things are a bit more gentle and peaceful.
00:17:52.020 But in the Meccan period, you don't get a lot of adherents that join.
00:17:56.140 Then he moves to Medina, and then the message becomes unbelievably less tolerant, and certainly so to the Jews. 1.00
00:18:04.760 And at that point, of course, the religion grows, you know, exponentially.
00:18:10.040 And of course, then the theological difficulty is, well, how can we reconcile a contradiction?
00:18:17.440 If at one place it says A, and then in the second place it says not A, well, God couldn't contradict himself.
00:18:25.120 How could that be?
00:18:26.040 Well, so that's where you have the principle of abrogation, which is that if you've got two statements that are contradictory, the later statement abrogates the earlier statement. 0.99
00:18:35.340 So the love and peace stuff, you know, you have your religion and I have mine verse, becomes abrogated by kill, kill, kill, kill, everything in sight, kill, take a break, espresso, kill some more, kill, kill, kill. 0.87
00:18:48.220 And so, of course, it is in the Islamic sources.
00:18:53.760 You just have to read the Quran, have to read the Hadith, you have to read the Sirah, the biography of Muhammad, and you come to your own judgment.
00:19:00.100 Now, a lot of times, people confuse what's in the doctrine with individual Muslims.
00:19:05.920 Of course, most Muslims don't go around killing people.
00:19:08.780 Of course, I don't need to be lectured about, you know, most Muslims being nice.
00:19:12.780 I have probably more Muslim friends than most people will ever meet in their lives.
00:19:16.460 But that says nothing about what the doctrines teach.
00:19:20.220 So let me draw an analogy.
00:19:21.960 In Judaism, kosher laws do not allow for the eating of pork.
00:19:26.400 That's in Jewish texts.
00:19:27.980 Now, that doesn't mean that if Mordechai, your Jewish friend, eats pork, he is adhering to true Judaism. 0.51
00:19:36.000 He is eating pork despite the fact that he's not supposed to according to the religion.
00:19:41.860 So it is fully inscribed and condoned in the religion that you should hate the Jew. 0.99
00:19:48.380 The Jew is the eternal enemy. 1.00
00:19:49.940 And as you know, Rashid, there is a famous hadith that says that, you know, at the end of times, you know, the tree will, you know, where the Jew is hiding behind it will say, right? 0.98
00:20:01.060 So, I mean, nothing could be clearer.
00:20:03.300 I can share a million quotes from the biggest Islamic clerics at Al-Azhar University, all of whom are saying exactly what Islam thinks of the Jews. 0.98
00:20:14.680 But whenever you mention any of that, some idiot will come back and say, but that's not true. 0.99
00:20:19.300 My dad is Muslim and he loves Jews. 0.99
00:20:21.520 So, therefore, it can't be true that Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, the head Sunni cleric of Al-Azhar University, must be misunderstanding Islam. 0.83
00:20:30.940 It's insane. 0.91
00:20:31.700 It's infuriating.
00:20:33.200 People have to be honest and wake up.
00:20:34.920 Well, just with this rise of anti-Semitism, I was surprised the other day, I was reading the news and then I see Kamala Harris talking about an initiative to counter Islamophobia.
00:20:54.060 I thought they would bring something related to anti-Semitism because what I have seen in protests in London and Paris and Berlin and all these places, I didn't see Islamophobia there.
00:21:08.180 I saw anti-Semitism.
00:21:10.100 So, why?
00:21:11.400 I mean, it's mind-blowing to see that we are trying to make laws to counter Islamophobia.
00:21:21.160 And in a time where anti-Semitism is on the rise, let me ask you this question.
00:21:30.160 First of all, do you agree with the term Islamophobia?
00:21:34.440 And the second is, can we compare anti-Semitism to Islamophobia?
00:21:41.240 Yeah.
00:21:41.940 So, regarding what Kamala Harris did, so in the parasitic mind, so my last book is on happiness, which is not what we're talking about.
00:21:51.160 We're talking about anything but happiness.
00:21:53.540 But in my previous book, The Parasitic Mind, I talk about how all of these parasitic ideas were developed on university campuses and eventually they broke out of academia and they're everywhere in society.
00:22:06.000 So, at one point in the book, I talk about the metric by which we now elevate ourselves within the hierarchy is not by meritocracy.
00:22:17.840 It's not the one who is smartest that gets the job.
00:22:20.600 It's not the professor with the best CV who gets the job.
00:22:23.800 It's the person who has the highest score in victimology poker.
00:22:28.940 Victimology is the means by which we adjudicate our competitive mechanisms, which, of course, is a terrible idea.
00:22:35.960 So, now, let's bring it back to Islamophobia and Jew hatred. 0.97
00:22:39.900 So, Kamala Harris, given that she is trained in all of this postmodernism and Marxist nonsense, oppressor oppressed, the narrative can't be that the mean, nasty Jew is the oppressed one. 0.98
00:22:59.660 It has to be that Islam is the one that is the victim, right? 1.00
00:23:05.840 And therefore, even when you call out a press conference to talk about supposed Jew hatred, well, if you say that there is Jew hatred, then you might actually admit that Jews might be the victims in this case.
00:23:22.140 We can't have that, so therefore, we always have to supersede the victimology story of the Jew hatred by a, quote, bigger bigotry, which is the unicorn Islamophobia. 0.68
00:23:36.820 And I say unicorn because exactly to your point, there aren't many cases of people going around in the West causing problems to Muslims, but there's an endless number of cases where the exact opposite is happening.
00:23:51.280 I'll tell you another incredible story very, very quickly about the desire to see Islamophobia even when it doesn't exist.
00:24:00.020 You ready?
00:24:00.560 This is an incredible story.
00:24:02.200 So, at Queen's University, which is a very well-known university in Canada, in Ontario, in Kingston, Ontario, there was a student who decided that she wanted to demonstrate that Canadian society is unbelievably Islamophobic.
00:24:19.160 I mean, it's just dangerous to be a Muslim in Canada. 1.00
00:24:23.020 So, what she did, she doesn't wear a hijab, so she wore a hijab and she wanted to then do a report in one of her courses to document the amount of Islamophobia.
00:24:37.480 Well, at the end of, I think she wore it, I can't remember the exact number, for maybe 18 days, she found out that people were incredibly kind, polite, sweet, and tolerant to her.
00:24:51.740 So, do you think she revised her opinion and said, oh my God, I started off thinking that Canada was going to be Islamophobic, but now I've been proven wrong, as any serious, honest person would do?
00:25:04.220 No, no, Rashid, you ready?
00:25:06.520 She said that the fact that people were so nice to her was proof that they were overcompensating for her latent Islamophobia.
00:25:20.120 In other words, because I have such hatred inside of me, and I have to compensate for that, I will now be super nice to her.
00:25:28.720 So, even when you are very kind to the woman wearing the hijab, it turns out to be a manifestation of Islamophobia.
00:25:38.160 So, it's a hopeless case then, no matter what you do, you are accused of Islamophobia.
00:25:44.640 Exactly right, so I'll give you another example.
00:25:46.740 So, I have a whole section in the parasitic mind which I call, all roads lead to bigotry, right?
00:25:53.860 So, let's give a few other examples that don't relate to Islamophobia. 0.96
00:25:56.960 If you say, I am uniquely attracted to overweight women, well, you're a bigot, Rashid, because you are fetishizing my fat body. 1.00
00:26:09.160 So, you're a bigot, you're objectifying me. 1.00
00:26:11.600 If, on the other hand, you say, I am uniquely unattracted to fat women, well, you're a fattest pig. 1.00
00:26:19.660 So, if I am uniquely attracted to fat women, I'm a pig. 1.00
00:26:24.440 And if I'm uniquely unattracted to fat women, I'm a pig. 1.00
00:26:28.540 All roads lead to me being a pig. 0.99
00:26:31.940 So, what's the solution in this case? 0.96
00:26:34.880 What should we do?
00:26:35.820 Well, my small part to the solution is to exactly accept the invitation to come on your spaces and on Joe Rogan and write best-selling books.
00:26:48.320 Because the only way you can counter bad ideas is to hopefully offer people better ideas, to offer people critical thinking abilities.
00:26:56.640 But that's why, by the way, I've recently been very, very somber and very pessimistic.
00:27:02.500 You might have noticed that some of the tone of my tweets recently has been a lot darker.
00:27:07.440 Usually, I'm happy and playful and I joke around.
00:27:10.320 And the reason why I'm feeling very pessimistic is because, you know, the first problem, the first step to recognizing a problem, as the saying goes, is to, I mean, is to recognize that you have a problem.
00:27:21.260 If you want to solve your alcoholism, you better first admit that you're alcoholic.
00:27:25.760 So, imagine when the West not only doesn't admit to having a problem, it doubles down on all of its policies that led to its problem.
00:27:35.940 So, it's a hopeless case, I'm afraid.
00:27:38.920 Okay.
00:27:39.200 Let me ask you another question related to the rise of antismatism.
00:27:47.900 Yeah, I'm trying to mute your mic.
00:27:51.260 So, the narrative that we talked about from the beginning, I'm going to give some, I know that Dr. Gad doesn't have a lot of time, but we have one hour.
00:28:03.760 I think we will finish in half an hour.
00:28:06.020 I will give some people a chance to ask some questions, a few of them.
00:28:12.500 But let me first finish the questions that I have for him and then we can take it from there.
00:28:18.000 So, the question I have for you, the narrative, the pro-Palestinian narrative, the pro-Arab Islamic narrative, however you want to call it, is the dominant narrative now on social media.
00:28:34.140 Why Jews fail to put their own narrative and make people listen to them and hear their side of the story and understand where they came from?
00:28:49.400 Why the relevant dominant narrative is the pro-Arab Islamic Palestinian narrative?
00:28:55.700 Thank you.
00:28:59.660 Look, there are several reasons for it, but the most fundamental and obvious one is that it's a question of numbers, right?
00:29:05.580 There are, I mean, never mind all of the Westerners who have been parasitized by the false narrative.
00:29:12.220 If you just look at how many Muslims are there on Earth and how many Jews are there, there are 15 million Jews.
00:29:21.120 There are, you know, 1.7, 1.8, 2 billion, depending on the count, Muslims.
00:29:25.620 About one-fourth of humanity is Muslim.
00:29:27.860 There are 15 million Jews.
00:29:29.440 So, if we both stand up from the top of the mountain and screen each of our positions, whose voice is going to be heard louder, right?
00:29:37.120 Now, I can try to combat your louder voice by hopefully offering you a correct narrative, by offering you, you know, a set of information that hopefully will convince you, but my voice is drowned by the endless number of voices, whether they're bots or they're trolls or they're organized, you know, troll files. 1.00
00:29:59.280 I mean, every time I post something, even if it has nothing to do with Islam, if I say, I love my children, you're a piece of shit, Jew, you should be killed. 1.00
00:30:09.240 Don't you know that Gaza has children that are dying? 1.00
00:30:11.980 You're posting that you love your children when Gaza and children have died. 0.97
00:30:15.540 So, it's just a question of numbers and who has the larger amplification of their voice.
00:30:21.080 So, that's why I talk about, at various points, about demography is destiny, right?
00:30:26.620 The reality is, if you allow into your culture people who don't share your foundational cultural values, it's only a matter of time when the numbers overpower you, whether it be on social media, whether it be in the classroom, whether it be in the size of the protests on the street, you're going to lose the battle because the numbers are against you.
00:30:50.920 It's as simple as that, Rashid.
00:30:52.240 Well, let me ask you this, since that's the case, I mean, I would understand it if it happens with normal people, the average person.
00:31:03.180 But it's happening also in the academia and among professors, among people who are smart and they should know this is a policy.
00:31:14.220 We are not appealing to popularity.
00:31:16.160 We are not appealing to the crowds.
00:31:18.560 We are appealing to reason and history and arguments, sound arguments.
00:31:26.760 But I don't see that.
00:31:28.080 I see them following the crowds.
00:31:29.800 So I'm here as a professor of 30 years who's reached, you know, quite a, if I may say, a distinguished level in academia. 0.99
00:31:42.960 I'm here to tell you with all humility that some of the absolute most degenerate and dumbest people are professors, right? 0.93
00:31:51.960 So the fact that you have a PhD in chemistry or in women's studies does not in any way imply that you're necessarily smarter than the average truck driver. 0.98
00:32:02.740 Okay, as a matter of fact, every single one of the parasitic ideas that I talk about in the parasitic mind was originally spawned on a university campus, right? 0.96
00:32:13.460 And so to paraphrase George Orwell, it takes intellectuals to come up with some of the dumbest ideas. 0.89
00:32:19.860 So it doesn't surprise me that the academics are falling prey to the false narrative, right? 0.99
00:32:26.480 I mean, and by the way, I didn't make myself a lot of friends in academia by saying that most of my colleagues are complete imbeciles, but that's the reality, right? 0.98
00:32:37.900 Now, there are several reasons for that. 0.97
00:32:40.360 One of the reasons is because most academics exist in a rarefied intellectual world where their ideas are perfectly decoupled from real consequences, right?
00:32:52.940 So they can pontificate all sorts of nonsense without ever having the autocorrective mechanism of reality slapping them in their face, right?
00:33:03.820 So, but now to show you the extent to which people can be parasitized, right?
00:33:09.500 Never mind Israel versus Palestine.
00:33:12.840 A gynecologist is someone who specializes in female anatomy, in medicine, right? 1.00
00:33:21.140 An obstetrician is someone who specializes in the reproductive medicine of biological females. 0.91
00:33:30.900 Would it surprise you to hear that I've had heated arguments with gynecologists where I said, 0.99
00:33:41.300 are you insane? 0.96
00:33:42.940 Are you really saying that men can menstruate? 1.00
00:33:46.680 Are you really saying that men can bear children?
00:33:50.060 And gynecologists said, yes, they can. 0.87
00:33:55.700 That's precisely why I said that it's a parasitic framework, right?
00:34:01.400 Because let me explain to your audience why I use the neuroparasitic framework.
00:34:06.280 So if you take, for example, the wood cricket, the wood cricket hates water.
00:34:12.500 It doesn't want to swim in water.
00:34:14.240 But when its brain is parasitized by a neuroparasite called a hairworm,
00:34:20.200 the hairworm needs the cricket to jump in water and kill itself 0.78
00:34:25.640 because the hairworm could only complete its reproductive cycle in water.
00:34:31.620 And therefore, to the detriment of the cricket,
00:34:34.660 it is willing to commit suicide in order to suit the interests of its parasite. 0.96
00:34:40.220 That's exactly what happens to all of those academics. 0.99
00:34:44.360 They're fully, completely, ideologically parasitized.
00:34:48.900 And that's why we have groups like Queers for Palestine. 0.93
00:34:53.160 What do you think happens to queer people in Gaza?
00:34:56.120 But that's the world we live in, Rashid.
00:34:57.740 My son said it sounds like a chicken for KFC.
00:35:02.880 Exactly.
00:35:04.280 So anyway, I just want to say something about the situation.
00:35:15.580 I mean, what's happening now in the Middle East and the war.
00:35:21.120 What's your take on the war?
00:35:23.080 How do you see it as a Jew?
00:35:25.920 Give me your angle.
00:35:27.740 I really do understand when, you know, endless people who are innocent
00:35:36.200 are ultimately ending up being, you know, innocent collateral.
00:35:42.680 And so I get that, right?
00:35:44.000 I mean, the four-year-old Palestinian kid who ends up being killed
00:35:48.060 because, you know, Israel has to bomb some Hamas installation 0.89
00:35:51.940 that's hiding behind a mosque or a hospital.
00:35:55.360 That kid, I mourn for them because I actually am a,
00:36:00.400 I'm driven by a universal moral calculus.
00:36:03.400 My pain doesn't only apply to seeing a Jewish kid killed.
00:36:09.680 As a matter of fact, I often tell the story of the famous,
00:36:13.180 maybe some of your viewers have watched this and I watched it
00:36:16.840 and I was traumatized by it.
00:36:17.880 There's a famous clip of about 1,500 young Muslim men in a lineup
00:36:24.540 being lined up at the border of the Euphrates River one by one
00:36:28.900 as ISIS is putting a bullet in their head, right?
00:36:33.120 Now, I saw that clip and I was absolutely haunted by it for probably a week
00:36:40.420 and I was angry and I was filled with rage.
00:36:44.120 I didn't care that those 1,500 men were Muslim. 0.57
00:36:47.700 I didn't say, oh, who cares? 0.56
00:36:49.180 They're young Muslim men, so what if they die? 0.97
00:36:51.520 I was angry because my moral calculus doesn't only apply
00:36:55.860 to someone who is of my tribe or of my religion.
00:36:59.320 So I get the fact that when Israel goes in now and starts bombing these places, 0.77
00:37:05.240 an incredible number of innocent people are going to lose their lives
00:37:10.060 and they can never be returned and it's a gargantuan tragedy.
00:37:14.200 So I get that.
00:37:15.620 But what's the alternative, right?
00:37:17.220 What else can you do? 1.00
00:37:19.060 Can you sit around and say, hey, you can take a shot at raping 1.00
00:37:22.760 and decapitating 1,400 people and given that you exist in an environment 0.99
00:37:28.460 that is very populated and you hide behind innocent people,
00:37:32.140 we're not going to retaliate or we're only going to go in
00:37:35.560 and only identify singularly only the Hamas killers and no one else.
00:37:41.080 So you really are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
00:37:45.740 And so I understand the anger that people feel at seeing the size
00:37:51.140 of the brutal rebuttal, but I also understand that Israel was forced
00:37:59.100 into this position, right?
00:38:00.200 I mean, on October 6, Israel didn't do anything.
00:38:03.700 Nothing would have happened.
00:38:04.760 We could have spent another hundred years
00:38:06.820 and no one would have ever been killed.
00:38:09.080 So this is when I talk about the amnesia of causality.
00:38:12.940 Somehow people who go on the street and say,
00:38:15.340 look at how evil the Israelis are, 1.00
00:38:17.080 they forget what started this thing, right?
00:38:20.380 If October 7 doesn't happen, none of this happens.
00:38:23.900 And so, yes, I mourn the loss of any innocent,
00:38:27.440 but I understand why they're doing it.
00:38:29.280 Well, some people will go even back to history
00:38:34.860 and will say it didn't start October 7, it started in 1948.
00:38:40.260 So they want to counter that argument with saying,
00:38:43.800 like, Israel started it, the Jews started it, 0.97
00:38:46.340 so this is just a reaction, even October 7,
00:38:49.620 it's just a reaction to what has happened in the past.
00:38:53.940 Yes, but here's the thing.
00:38:55.260 Every single millimeter of land that exists today,
00:38:59.640 anywhere on earth, if we do a forensic accounting of it,
00:39:03.960 then it needs to be returned to someone else.
00:39:06.480 You know what that's called?
00:39:07.720 It's called history, right?
00:39:09.540 So the field of history exists to document shifting of ownership of lands.
00:39:17.500 Every single land, right?
00:39:18.980 So as a matter of fact, in the parasitic mind, 0.92
00:39:21.260 I say that Saudi Arabia needs to give back to the Arabian Jews the land 1.00
00:39:27.900 because they were exterminated when Muhammad came in.
00:39:31.420 Khaybar khaybar ya Yahud, right?
00:39:33.080 So that makes no sense, right?
00:39:36.580 My own house in Beirut was stolen by Palestinians. 1.00
00:39:42.980 But I didn't then go on for the rest of my life saying, 0.98
00:39:46.580 I hate Palestinians, I want to get revenge on Palestinians. 1.00
00:39:50.660 It's tragic. 1.00
00:39:51.680 It's bad.
00:39:52.660 Horrible things happened to me as a child.
00:39:54.980 Horrible things happened to my parents when they were kidnapped by Fatah. 0.87
00:39:58.980 It's tragic.
00:39:59.760 It's part of our history, but you know how we get revenge?
00:40:03.500 By living a dignified life.
00:40:05.900 By living a meaningful life.
00:40:07.860 By living a life that will hopefully benefit others.
00:40:11.560 Yes, it's part of my history, whatever I went through,
00:40:14.880 but I have overcome my history.
00:40:17.500 I don't sit for the next 75 years and say,
00:40:20.800 you know what?
00:40:21.620 It's not fair. 0.99
00:40:23.240 We try to exterminate you, but we lose. 0.88
00:40:26.320 Therefore, boo-hoo-hoo, the clock has to go back in history 0.96
00:40:31.000 until when I say it goes back.
00:40:33.880 If we play that game, well, the Jews were there 1.00
00:40:36.800 way before Palestinians ever existed anywhere. 0.99
00:40:40.420 Way before Islam ever existed anywhere. 1.00
00:40:42.900 But that's not how you adjudicate historical realities.
00:40:46.260 You deal with it, you move on, and you build a better future.
00:40:50.260 I did it.
00:40:50.900 My family did it.
00:40:51.840 It's time for the Palestinians to do it as well.
00:40:53.700 Well, you know that Islamic groups like Hamas and others
00:41:01.280 and Iran and Hezbollah and all these,
00:41:05.460 they succeeded to link the struggle with religion.
00:41:12.840 So now it's about al-Aqsa.
00:41:14.880 It's about the holy side.
00:41:16.600 It's about Jews against Muslims. 0.96
00:41:19.000 It's about the end times when the Hermageddon war is going to be carried against Jews 0.99
00:41:27.780 and they will hide behind the tree and the stone.
00:41:30.520 And all of that is together.
00:41:33.500 Now, when you talk to any Muslim, any Arab, that's almost the narrative.
00:41:41.160 It's like we will win this war.
00:41:43.860 And I see it also in Palestinians.
00:41:47.520 There is a cycle.
00:41:49.380 I don't know how are we going to break that cycle.
00:41:52.400 It's one generation gives birth to another generation 0.99
00:41:57.640 and they are competing who is going to have more children to give for martyrdom.
00:42:03.220 So as a psychologist, how do you think we can break that cycle of violence
00:42:09.580 going from one generation to another?
00:42:12.760 So I don't think it's an easy thing to do, but the solution is very simple.
00:42:18.200 Your definition of who you are cannot be defined contra the hatred of another group, right?
00:42:27.620 So, for example, if I say I am a Lionel Messi fan and I want to belong to the Lionel Messi club.
00:42:35.120 So everybody who comes to this club shares a common love and admiration for Lionel Messi.
00:42:42.320 And okay, in this case, it's great.
00:42:44.240 What if we create another group called it's the Jew Hatred Club, okay? 0.95
00:42:50.040 Well, the only way you can resolve the problems of that group is that the definition of what constitutes
00:42:57.980 belongingness to that group cannot be defined based on Jew hatred.
00:43:03.060 And so I don't know what the mechanism is.
00:43:06.200 If I knew the mechanism, then I should win several Nobel Prizes.
00:43:10.080 But it has to be that Islamic society rejects that narrative.
00:43:16.480 So there is an endless number of things that one can be proud of in terms of Muslim culture,
00:43:23.920 in terms of architecture, in terms of science in the past, in terms of philosophy,
00:43:29.800 in terms of poetry, in terms of norms of reciprocity, right?
00:43:34.580 Arabic culture has a beautiful culture of generosity and hospitality, right?
00:43:39.800 So there is an endless number of ways by which I can be proud in my Islamic or my Arabic culture.
00:43:47.940 I am Arabic, right?
00:43:49.480 When people ask me, what are you?
00:43:51.180 I don't say, first, I'm Jewish.
00:43:53.020 I say, first, I'm Lebanese.
00:43:54.840 I speak Arabic.
00:43:55.940 I listen to Arabic music.
00:43:57.380 I eat Arabic food, right?
00:43:59.320 But my identity of being Lebanese doesn't include hating the Muslim.
00:44:05.940 It doesn't include hating the Arab.
00:44:08.400 On the contrary, I love when I walk into a room and I start speaking with everybody Arabic
00:44:13.760 and they immediately view me as their brother, even though they know I'm Jewish because we're all speaking Arabic.
00:44:19.300 So what Islam has to do, what Arabs have to do, is find a way to disassociate their identity from Jew hatred.
00:44:32.120 If they can do that, there will be an explosion of richness in the Middle East that makes the oil richness seem like nothing.
00:44:41.700 Imagine with all of the creativity, with all of the rich historical background that the Middle East has,
00:44:50.240 what we can do with tourism, you know, you could turn Gaza into the next Silicon Valley, the way Israel has. 1.00
00:44:58.100 So there is such human capital there, but it's always crushed by this hatred towards the Jew. 0.99
00:45:07.100 Get rid of that and it's going to be an unbelievable place to live.
00:45:11.980 I want to ask another question about immigration.
00:45:17.340 Do you think immigration to the West helped the spread of Jewish hatred, brought the problems of the Middle East to the West?
00:45:27.480 I'm sure a long time ago, probably it was safer to be in North America than to be in the Middle East. 1.00
00:45:34.880 But now I think it's changing.
00:45:36.580 You can be probably safer in United Arab Emirates than in Montreal, in Canada.
00:45:42.440 So do you think things are shifting, are moving because of immigration?
00:45:47.880 I mean, 100,000 percent.
00:45:50.360 I've been screaming this for 25 years.
00:45:54.660 OK, so let's let's let me draw an analogy.
00:45:57.600 OK, when every day when you make certain decisions, if you want to lose weight.
00:46:02.940 So I can exercise a bit more.
00:46:06.740 I could eat healthier.
00:46:07.840 And at the end of the day, I'm going to weigh myself with a very, very delicate weight scale that can really measure how much my weight has changed down to three decimal points.
00:46:18.400 Only one of three things can happen every day, Rashid.
00:46:21.040 And I'm going to link it to your immigration in a second.
00:46:23.180 I'm drawing an analogy at the end of every day.
00:46:26.360 I could either have put on weight.
00:46:28.620 My weight could have exactly stayed the same or I could have lost weight.
00:46:33.580 There is no other possibility.
00:46:34.980 There's only three possible events when it comes to the trajectory of my weight.
00:46:39.440 OK, now let's apply that to your immigration question.
00:46:43.140 If I let in one million people into my country and those million people come from societies where based on nonpartisan surveys, nonpartisan data collection, those societies have you're ready.
00:47:02.800 You're all sitting down.
00:47:04.040 They have 95 to 99 percent Jew hatred. 0.51
00:47:09.700 So, again, let me explain what that means for someone who doesn't understand what I'm saying.
00:47:14.780 10 percent Jew hatred would be I sampled a thousand people and 10 percent of those had negative views of the Jews.
00:47:24.400 You're getting 95 to 99 percent horrifying views of the Jew when you sample people from those societies.
00:47:32.440 So now if I let in one million people into Canada, now let's apply the three states of the world model.
00:47:40.920 Do you need to be a fancy professor to know whether it's going to lead to increased Jew hatred, no change in Jew hatred or decreased Jew hatred? 0.61
00:47:49.140 So now Justin Trudeau says, hey, Syrian war, let's let in 50,000 Syrians.
00:47:56.300 I say, oh, oh, OK, now let's let in 70,000 this.
00:48:00.620 I say, oh, oh, well, guess what?
00:48:03.400 By and by the way, I don't need to be lectured about the importance of immigration.
00:48:08.360 I am an immigrant to Canada.
00:48:09.560 But when I came to Canada, I didn't come with values that were perfectly antithetical to the Canadian values.
00:48:17.180 I said, thank God Canada's let me let me in and let me now work hard to be an honorable citizen in Canada so that Canada can be proud and happy that they let me in.
00:48:27.600 I didn't come in. 0.98
00:48:28.460 And the first thing I said is death to Jews. 1.00
00:48:30.380 Let's kill homosexuals. 1.00
00:48:31.700 Let's do this. 1.00
00:48:32.260 Right now, of course, it doesn't mean that every single person from those societies is a bad person.
00:48:37.020 But we are a product of our culture.
00:48:40.140 We are a product of our socialization.
00:48:42.200 We are a culture of what our parents teach us and our imam and our rabbi and our priests.
00:48:47.260 So it's not surprising that if you let in people that are coming from societies that are defined endemically by their Jew hatred, that after 20, 30, 40 years of open border policies, you're going to have problems with Jews in those societies. 0.54
00:49:01.880 We've seen it in Sweden.
00:49:03.360 We've seen it in Denmark.
00:49:04.560 We've seen it in France.
00:49:05.580 We've seen it in England.
00:49:07.020 We're seeing it in Canada.
00:49:08.980 I'll tell you a very, very quick story.
00:49:11.140 Earlier, I said the story about my mother putting the pendant around my neck with the Star of David when we left Lebanese airspace.
00:49:24.280 I've mentioned the story now a few times on several shows because it only happened in the last two weeks.
00:49:28.420 My wife and son came to pick me up at a cafe where I was working on my laptop.
00:49:34.240 My son had just gone to play a soccer match in the east end of the city.
00:49:38.440 And when we walked into the car, he said, Daddy, if you were where I just played soccer and you were wearing a Star of David, you'd be dead.
00:49:50.000 He didn't say this in Yemen.
00:49:51.620 He didn't say this in Cairo.
00:49:53.120 He didn't say this in Raqqa, Syria, under ISIS.
00:49:56.760 He said it in Montreal, Canada.
00:49:58.760 So, no, it's not at all surprising that if you let in people that define themselves via their Jew hatred, that you're going to have increased Jew hatred in these societies.
00:50:09.140 It's as clear as ABC.
00:50:10.700 What puzzles me, I did a book in Arabic, but I didn't translate it into English, about Islam being a tribal religion because it was born in a tribal environment, background.
00:50:28.040 So, everything is about the tribe.
00:50:29.760 If you leave the tribe, you get killed.
00:50:31.860 If the customs of the tribe are holy, everything is about the tribe. 0.86
00:50:36.180 But now, the Ummah, the nation of Islam, wherever it is, doesn't recognize nationalism. 0.52
00:50:45.300 So, wherever you are in Canada, in America, in England, you are a part of this big tribe.
00:50:53.860 And I see people protesting against Israel while, for example, in L.A., and Americans are kidnapped by Hamas, the same people they are defending. 0.59
00:51:05.400 And Americans got killed by Hamas, but they are not defending their American citizens. 0.72
00:51:12.060 They are defending the aggressive.
00:51:14.000 The same thing applies to Canada.
00:51:15.780 The same thing applies to France.
00:51:17.860 Those people, they got the citizenship.
00:51:20.140 They gave an oath to be loyal to that country and to honor its citizenship.
00:51:27.040 But, in the same time, I see they are doing the opposite.
00:51:30.900 They just took advantage of that citizenship, but they are loyal to their tribe.
00:51:36.640 What do you think about that?
00:51:38.660 Well, you're exactly spot on.
00:51:40.700 You're exactly right.
00:51:42.260 That's why the Ummah is such an important concept in Islam.
00:51:46.200 It doesn't matter if I'm Canadian-Palestinian or I'm Canadian-Yemeni.
00:51:51.140 Ultimately, my top allegiance is to the Ummah, to the Nation of Islam.
00:51:55.640 You probably know this, Rashid, but I can't remember if it was in an intercepted FBI document.
00:52:02.860 I don't remember the exact source, but the playbook of the Muslim Brotherhood and fellow Islamists has been a three-step process, to your point. 0.80
00:52:12.540 Number one, they said that we will conquer the West through the womb of our women, right, meaning by higher fertility.
00:52:21.900 We will conquer the West through hijra. 1.00
00:52:24.880 Hijra is, you know, your open-door immigration policy. 0.96
00:52:28.540 And we will conquer the West by using your miserable freedoms against you.
00:52:34.080 Well, that's exactly what's happening.
00:52:35.840 I mean, if they tell you that openly, then maybe you should listen to them.
00:52:39.960 Now, again, I hate to have to say, but of course, most Muslims are nice.
00:52:44.540 And of course, I'm talking about an ideology, not people.
00:52:47.580 Of course, that's true.
00:52:49.060 But does Islam contain certain tenets that are deeply antithetical to the Western tradition? 1.00
00:52:57.900 Only a fool or a diabolical liar would argue otherwise. 0.99
00:53:03.380 I mean, take, here's an example, which I discuss in the parasitic mind. 0.99
00:53:06.240 Sharia law recognizes that the severity of a punishment of a crime depends on the identity of the perpetrator and on the victim. 0.87
00:53:18.420 So if a Muslim man kills a Jewish man, that's not the same penalty if it's vice versa. 0.97
00:53:24.000 It's codified.
00:53:25.140 I could show you the entire quote, reliance of the traveler and so on, kind of the codified Sharia law, right?
00:53:31.800 Well, that's not consistent with American jurisprudence where just lady justice should be blind. 1.00
00:53:39.280 So on endless number of key values, Islam is inconsistent with Western values. 1.00
00:53:46.680 And so the West is going to have to decide.
00:53:48.880 Yes, of course, freedom of religion is lovely.
00:53:51.840 Freedom of conscience is lovely.
00:53:53.200 But at what point do some of the elements in your religion infringe on my rights to exist?
00:54:01.360 Should I be quiet and tolerate when at the mosque 200 meters from my house, there is a prayer that says, oh, God, oh, God, why do you hate us so much? 0.99
00:54:12.560 When can we get rid of the vermin Jews? 1.00
00:54:14.760 I should tolerate that because that's your religion? 1.00
00:54:17.840 I don't think so.
00:54:20.440 Well, thank you.
00:54:21.340 I just have a request.
00:54:24.480 If you can give us more time so I can move to the speakers.
00:54:30.280 Please.
00:54:31.060 I can stay probably for another 15 minutes if that's okay with you because I don't have to pay for kids.
00:54:35.740 That's fine.
00:54:36.980 That's very generous of you.
00:54:38.880 Let me take Yehuda.
00:54:40.440 Yehuda, go ahead.
00:54:43.080 Thanks so much.
00:54:43.680 God has an accomplishment that he might not realize.
00:54:47.180 And maybe if you message me offline, I think my cousins are related to you.
00:54:50.800 But the accomplishment that he has is before Gadsad became well known, every time a Lebanese Jew met someone and said, what are you? 0.50
00:54:59.960 And they said, I'm a Lebanese Jew.
00:55:01.120 The person would say, which parent's Lebanese and which parent's Jewish?
00:55:05.460 And then Gadsad came along and fixed it for all of us.
00:55:07.980 So thanks for that, Gadsad.
00:55:09.040 I'm sorry, I got the question.
00:55:18.900 Okay, go ahead.
00:55:19.400 I was just saying, I guess you're learning how to use the mic.
00:55:21.660 That's all.
00:55:22.300 All right.
00:55:22.560 So here's the thing.
00:55:23.300 For anti-Semitism, when it comes to Mizrahi or Levantine or Middle Eastern Jews, when you talk about the rise of anti-Semitism, I kind of want to circle back to that, Gadsad.
00:55:31.500 But it's one of the common refrains, and it's something that Eastern or Mediterranean Jews have a big problem with.
00:55:38.940 And that is, before the State of Israel, it was rainbows and butterflies, and you Jews loved us, and it was a great time, and we treated you great.
00:55:47.400 And most Jews from Lebanon and Syria and Egypt and Morocco, not Morocco as much, but would say, like, what are you people talking about?
00:55:56.220 Our existence was, we measure time by when the last time our grandfather was kidnapped by a local militia and ransomed off.
00:56:04.620 Now that you have the prominence and you can speak, you know, a lot of Lebanese Jews look up to you.
00:56:09.220 I'm not going to lie, Gadsad.
00:56:10.940 How do you rebut this?
00:56:13.060 Is this, like, do people think you're lying?
00:56:15.420 This is just, you know, haki balash, like no one buys it.
00:56:18.300 I'd love to hear your take on it, because you've really been a voice to so many, I hate to say it, Lebanese Jews or Syrian Jews or whatever.
00:56:24.840 Thanks, Gadsad.
00:56:25.360 And if you can send me a message, I can't message you.
00:56:27.580 I'd like to give you a last name, see if it's true about the relation.
00:56:30.660 Thanks so much, Gadsad.
00:56:33.360 Thank you for those questions and for your kind words.
00:56:35.840 Look, the people who are unwilling to hear the truth, they're impenetrable, right?
00:56:41.140 But if people are willing to, you know, engage you honestly and at least hear what you have to say, then I would be very quick to say exactly what you mentioned, Yehuda, which is it was hardly rainbows and butterflies and candy, right?
00:56:55.580 The psychology, so here I'm going to introduce a term that Brother Rashid might know, but some of our listeners may not know.
00:57:03.060 In Islamic doctrines, there's the concept of the dimmi, right?
00:57:09.920 The dimmi is someone who is tolerated in Islamic lands, right? 1.00
00:57:15.100 So shut up, be quiet, be pretty, and wake up every morning thankful that we didn't yet rape your daughters and that we're tolerating your existence. 1.00
00:57:26.140 As a matter of fact, of course, in the doctrines themselves, you pay a jizya, which is a protection tax. 0.99
00:57:33.200 So I should be thankful when I'm a Lebanese Jew or a Yemeni Jew or an Egyptian Jew or a Syrian Jew that my much larger in number Muslims are tolerating my existence.
00:57:47.680 Look how nice we are. 0.99
00:57:48.960 Or you've had a chance to live till you're 30 and we haven't yet raped any of your daughters. 1.00
00:57:54.280 So kiss my hand, pretty Jew boy. 1.00
00:57:56.860 That's the dynamic.
00:57:58.740 So the good Jew in the Middle East is one. 0.89
00:58:02.360 Well, of course, the good Jew is one who's dead. 1.00
00:58:04.760 But if we're going to be nice and not kill you, then always appreciate that if you're existing, it's because of the kindness of our heart. 0.92
00:58:13.940 Well, guess what?
00:58:15.580 I don't want to kiss your hand because you were kind enough to not kill me.
00:58:20.520 Look at my situation in Lebanon.
00:58:22.480 Everything was rosy until it wasn't rosy, right?
00:58:26.100 Look at my brother-in-law's family in Alexandria, Egypt.
00:58:30.420 They're Egyptian Jews. 0.98
00:58:31.780 Everything was great until they had to put on their running shoes and run really fast and get away.
00:58:37.480 Look what happened to my Syrian ancestors. 0.71
00:58:39.780 Everything was fine in Syria until they had to quickly run away. 1.00
00:58:43.940 Look at what happened to my wife's family in the Turkish genocide, Armenian genocide.
00:58:50.300 So history doesn't lie, right?
00:58:53.040 There is 1,400 years of eradication of minorities in Islamic lands.
00:58:58.680 Now, that doesn't mean that the killing happens every day, all day.
00:59:05.120 It is true that in Andalusia, there was a period where Muslims, Jews, and Christians coexisted.
00:59:12.520 But even in Andalusia, don't think that we were equal partners.
00:59:17.840 Jews knew their place. 1.00
00:59:19.940 And their place was never higher than that of their co-Muslim people. 1.00
00:59:27.660 And so it's just out of ignorance that people say, oh, before 1948, Jews lived in Arab lands.
00:59:37.260 Even Maimonides, right?
00:59:39.340 One of the biggest Jewish philosophers and a rabbi and a personal physician to the sultan had remarked about how rough it is to be a Jew.
00:59:50.600 He was an Arabic speaker, right?
00:59:52.160 He was like me.
00:59:52.980 He's a Mizrahi Jew, Maimonides, right? 1.00
00:59:55.560 And yet he also recognized that, you know, you were always on borrowed time in Jude.
01:00:01.440 You were living until you were no longer living.
01:00:04.200 It's kind of like a guy who's about to have a heart attack.
01:00:07.840 He's walking merrily, and then the heart attack strikes.
01:00:10.840 That's the existence of the minority in Islamic lands.
01:00:14.180 That's not how anybody who has dignity should live.
01:00:17.900 I don't need to kiss your hand because you tolerate me and you gave me another day to live.
01:00:23.120 And also, like, they failed to mention many massacres that happened in the Muslim world for Jews all along history.
01:00:30.780 For example, just recent history in Iraq, the Farhoud Massacre, and also in Hebron, Hebron Massacre in 1929, I think, before the establishment of Israel as a state.
01:00:48.760 In Morocco, also, people talk about peaceful times.
01:00:53.160 Yes, we had peaceful times, but also we had some very problematic times for Jews through history.
01:01:02.040 And when Israel was founded as a state, Arab countries, they kicked out around 850,000 Jews because of a crime of association.
01:01:14.380 Some Jews had a state in Israel, then you pay for it. 1.00
01:01:18.640 It's the same thing that's happening today.
01:01:20.740 If there is a war between Israel and Palestinians, you pay for it, even if you are living in Montreal, and probably you have nothing to do with that war. 0.83
01:01:31.340 You are just watching the news like everybody else.
01:01:33.980 But still, you pay for it because you are related to them.
01:01:37.840 So let's go to another speaker, Lebanese.
01:01:42.460 I think I'm trying to go by who raised his hand first.
01:01:47.480 Lebanese, go ahead.
01:01:48.720 Hey, good evening, everyone.
01:01:52.440 And thank you, Brother Rashid, and for Dr. Gad for being here.
01:01:57.400 I'm really excited to be here with you, Dr. Gad, because before the 7th of October, I started reading your book, The Parasitic Mind.
01:02:07.140 And I had to stop at some point, at when the 7th of October massacre happened.
01:02:17.360 To look to the news and to listen for what was happening.
01:02:21.900 And because even a little bit of what happened, I lost a friend, who I had the opportunity to meet him on social media at some point, who was killed in cold blood by those, I don't know what to call them at some point.
01:02:39.040 And another friend, who was kidnapped, who was kidnapped, who is kidnapped to Gaza right now.
01:02:46.100 And just for myself, I'm not Jewish, but I was Christian.
01:02:53.480 I used to listen to, to hear Brother Rashid when I was Christian.
01:02:57.960 And now I'm trying only to be the person who is a friend for the Jewish people.
01:03:05.960 So, a little bit of how I arrived to this point, because, in some point, I get out from Lebanon, and I met other people.
01:03:19.600 I arrived to the point where I met a Jewish person.
01:03:23.560 My first reaction was, what to do?
01:03:26.360 Should I bring this kind of hatred who we learned in Lebanon, which I learned from Lebanon, even though I wasn't Muslim. 0.86
01:03:34.240 But we learned it, we took it, we got brainwashed.
01:03:39.260 We forgot, like, 3,000 plus years of history between us, Lebanese, whatever we are, with the Jewish people, which we had amazing history,
01:03:54.660 which is written between the Bible, Tanakh, Torah, and everywhere else.
01:04:00.620 And I arrived to the point where I asked myself, should I bring the hatred which I learned from Lebanon, 1.00
01:04:09.320 or to learn from the Jewish people, to see what will gather us in some point, or what we can do.
01:04:17.220 So, I broke this barrier, and I said, no, I want to learn.
01:04:21.760 And I want to know why I should hate this person, why I learned to hate this person.
01:04:27.720 Then I came to the realization that, no, I'm with my family, in some point, with the Jewish people.
01:04:34.100 So, my question for you, Dr. Gerd, what we can do more to break this barrier,
01:04:41.320 because I don't think that everyone can come to the place where I learned to know,
01:04:47.520 to pass this unknown fear, to learn, and to speak with what I don't know.
01:04:56.680 And if you can give us how to break this barrier, it will be grateful.
01:05:03.500 And, yeah, that's it.
01:05:05.240 Thank you.
01:05:05.580 Thank you.
01:05:06.280 Thank you for those words, and I'm glad that you were able to escape the brainwashing.
01:05:12.060 Look, again, there's no magic recipe.
01:05:14.260 I think one of the ways that you break through that demonization is to get to know the people
01:05:20.400 that are being demonized.
01:05:23.140 And I'll tell you a great, quick, great story.
01:05:25.420 Actually, it's called now, because I've said it in a few places, it's called the Jew-Jew story.
01:05:31.740 And you'll see in a second why it's called the Jew-Jew story. 0.67
01:05:34.740 So, many of you are now seeing about the incredible anti-Semitic stuff that's happening at Cornell
01:05:41.680 University.
01:05:42.800 Now, that was problematic for me on two fronts.
01:05:45.120 First of all, of course, because I'm Jewish, but second of all, because I got my Master's
01:05:48.340 of Science and my PhD at Cornell University.
01:05:50.860 So, I wasn't very pleased to see my alma mater being at the center of all of this incredible
01:05:56.900 Jew-hatred.
01:05:58.080 Now, in 1990, I began my PhD at Cornell.
01:06:02.600 And because I'm Lebanese, I became friends with a bunch of Arabic guys.
01:06:08.120 Most of them were Lebanese.
01:06:09.060 And we would often play soccer together and, you know, hang out.
01:06:13.480 And it was all good.
01:06:15.220 And one day, one of those guys invited me out for a coffee.
01:06:21.020 And I said, okay, sure, let's go.
01:06:22.720 So, we went out for coffee.
01:06:24.020 And at one point, we were sitting around.
01:06:26.740 And he looked at me and he said, you know, God, I really like you.
01:06:31.420 And I looked at him and I said, I mean, I'll say his first name.
01:06:36.340 And out of respect, I won't say his whole name, although maybe he doesn't deserve that
01:06:40.220 respect.
01:06:41.040 I said, Omar, why are you saying this as though you're surprised that you like me?
01:06:47.440 Oh, I know.
01:06:48.620 Is it because I'm Jewish?
01:06:50.400 So, he looked at me and he said, no, but come on, God, you're not a Jew-Jew. 0.99
01:06:54.580 I said, no, no, no, Omar.
01:06:56.040 I'm a Jew-Jew-Jew-Jew.
01:06:58.340 He said, no, no, no, no, no.
01:06:59.820 But come on, you know what I mean.
01:07:00.940 You're not a Jew-Jew. 0.97
01:07:03.080 So, what happened there, he had a complete conundrum in his brain, right?
01:07:09.660 Because he's been taught straight out of his mother.
01:07:12.640 When his mother fed him milk, she didn't feed him milk. 0.84
01:07:15.660 She fed him Jew hatred. 1.00
01:07:18.600 And the Jew is diabolical. 1.00
01:07:20.040 And if you look very closely, there is horns that are growing in the forehead of the Jew. 0.99
01:07:24.040 And if you look, there is also a tail that comes out of him because he's not really human. 0.70
01:07:28.680 He's subhuman.
01:07:29.280 But then he meets a Jew who's actually Arabic.
01:07:34.460 He meets a Jew who's super fun.
01:07:37.140 He meets a Jew who's a better soccer player than all of them combined. 0.89
01:07:42.640 They're all fighting between them to see which of those Arab guys is going to have the Jew on his team because then his team would win. 1.00
01:07:50.820 Now, that violates all the stereotype of the weak, the diabolical, the scheming, the frugal, the manipulative Jew. 1.00
01:08:00.840 So, when he says, you know, God, I like you, he's surprised. 0.92
01:08:04.840 Now, the only way he can reconcile him liking me is by removing that I'm really a Jew.
01:08:12.860 I mean, you're not a Jew Jew, God. 1.00
01:08:15.500 Right?
01:08:15.740 So, why do I tell that story?
01:08:17.840 It's an incredibly powerful story because ultimately, I don't know if I was successful in eradicating the hatred in his heart for the rest of his life.
01:08:26.220 But for a moment, I was able to get through to him.
01:08:30.260 I was able to show him that, no, don't fall for the stereotype.
01:08:34.260 They are nice Muslims and mean Muslims. 0.84
01:08:36.120 Nice Jews and mean Jews. 1.00
01:08:38.260 So, the only recipe is for people to hang out together so that we can break these stupid stereotypes. 1.00
01:08:45.880 You reminded me of a little story in Morocco. 0.98
01:08:52.120 One time, I think, in 2000, I don't know, it was a conflict like this, but not as big as this, between Palestinians and Israel.
01:09:03.760 And then some people started insulting and attacking some Jews, remnants of Jews in Morocco.
01:09:10.760 There are probably a few hundreds left.
01:09:13.160 And because they are merchants next to each other.
01:09:17.460 So, a Muslim wanted to go apologize to his friend who is a Jew next to him at the store next to him. 0.87
01:09:25.260 So, he went to him and he said, I apologize for what happened.
01:09:28.700 And these guys were insulting you over everything.
01:09:31.680 You know, we are the Jews, not you guys.
01:09:34.920 So, he tried to compliment him, but the way he said it, it's like still the word Jew is an insult.
01:09:41.600 So, he said, we are the Jews, not you.
01:09:44.680 Anyway, let's go to Kat.
01:09:47.980 Go ahead, Kat.
01:09:49.940 Hi, Dr. Gad.
01:09:51.080 Thank you so much for taking the time.
01:09:52.580 A fellow Canadian here.
01:09:53.640 I'm just wondering, how do you think we can get through to the people that seem completely taken over by the parasitic ideas who support the people marching in the streets,
01:10:08.980 who chant the slogans of the death slogans in our Canadian streets.
01:10:16.360 How can we reach the people that seem completely lost and seem completely brainwashed and seem completely, what I call, to be taken over by the IDS, the Israel Derangement Syndrome?
01:10:32.900 What can we do as Canadians to fight that here in our homeland?
01:10:39.280 Thank you for that, Kat.
01:10:40.760 Number one, there has to be an immediate rethinking of immigration policies so that the foundational Canadian values that we hold dear will not be eradicated when the numbers shift in a dangerous already. 0.91
01:10:57.440 So, I remember a few years ago, someone had said that the day when in a city Muslims outnumber Jews by a certain ratio, it's all over.
01:11:09.380 Well, in Montreal, we're already there, right?
01:11:11.880 So, that's why when you go to the synagogue now, there has to be protection.
01:11:15.740 That's why when Gad Saad, 21st century, in Quebec, I go to my university, which is a university that, unfortunately, is known as a hotbed of some of this Jew hatred.
01:11:30.080 If some of you may remember that in 2002, Benjamin Netanyahu, who was then also the prime minister, was stopped from speaking at Concordia University.
01:11:39.960 So, I now have to go with security.
01:11:42.020 You know, I'm hardly an incendiary person.
01:11:45.580 I speak in a measured manner, in a rational manner.
01:11:48.500 I'm professorial.
01:11:49.960 You know, I'm fun.
01:11:51.140 I'm loving.
01:11:52.520 And yet, there's enough danger on me that in the 21st century, I have to go on campus with protection.
01:11:59.220 And I have to file reports with the Montreal police and so on.
01:12:02.920 That's not a good sign.
01:12:04.340 So, number one, immigration policy has to change so that you absolutely make sure that the numbers don't become so tilted that eventually, in 50 years, 100 years, you will lose your society.
01:12:18.900 There's 1,400 years of evidence to support that.
01:12:22.280 And there's no reason to think that Canada or Sweden or France or anywhere won't fall by the wayside in the exact same way.
01:12:29.680 By the way, the Islamization of a society doesn't always happen through force.
01:12:34.960 In many cases, it is through force.
01:12:36.540 But there are many, many strategies by which a society that started at day one with zero Islam, 100 years later, becomes 100% Islam. 0.97
01:12:48.600 How does that happen magically?
01:12:50.260 Okay?
01:12:50.760 So, again, nothing could be clearer.
01:12:53.140 In terms of what can you do on a day-to-day basis?
01:12:55.640 Well, listen, we're all here in these spaces.
01:12:58.860 Already, that is showing that a bunch of us have decided that it is worth our time to sit down and have this conversation.
01:13:07.440 So, you have to take that instinct and apply it everywhere.
01:13:12.160 When it comes time to voting, vote properly.
01:13:15.820 When it comes time to seeing that your children are being brainwashed at school, involve yourself and contact the principal.
01:13:24.340 So, I'll give you an example.
01:13:25.280 A few years ago, when my daughter was still in elementary school, I found out that the science teacher had a BLM avatar as part of her email.
01:13:37.180 I contacted the principal.
01:13:40.620 I didn't do, hi, I am Professor Gadsad, famous professor.
01:13:45.080 I'm just a concerned parent.
01:13:46.440 I said, look, I do happen to be a professor and I make sure that when I'm in my classes, I never let any political ideology come into my class.
01:13:57.060 When I am teaching about evolutionary psychology, I don't start talking about what I think about BLM or about Justin Trudeau.
01:14:04.460 There is a place and time for everything.
01:14:06.460 When I am a professor and I'm mandated to teach a certain course, that's all that I do.
01:14:11.060 So, therefore, I don't appreciate when your teacher is putting BLM on her avatar.
01:14:19.000 And by the way, do you know what BLM stands for?
01:14:21.540 And so, I engaged her.
01:14:23.340 Guess what?
01:14:24.020 Within a day, that BLM avatar was gone.
01:14:27.280 I could have easily said, well, who cares?
01:14:29.200 It's just an avatar, right?
01:14:31.220 So, the reason why these ideas are able to proliferate is because there isn't enough of a counterforce that fights against them. 0.97
01:14:42.200 Because people, regrettably, are unbelievably cowardly.
01:14:47.140 I've always said that we need to add us an eighth deadly sin to the seven already existing. 0.85
01:14:52.720 And that's cowardice.
01:14:53.860 Most people, if you go boo, they go hide in the closet, right?
01:14:57.800 But, well, you have to lose that reflex because no war, whether it be a physical war or an ideological war, doesn't come with some costs.
01:15:07.580 So, the fact that I have to go into the university not knowing whether somebody is going to knife me or not, that is a cost that I say I'm willing to bear because I want to protect your children and mine to have a better future.
01:15:20.060 So, just speak out, get engaged, activate your inner honey badger, and hopefully we can turn the tide.
01:15:27.800 Thank you, Dr. Gad.
01:15:30.800 I'll take the last question from Miguel.
01:15:33.240 Miguel, go ahead.
01:15:34.420 Thank you very much.
01:15:35.880 My name is Miguel from Dominican Republic.
01:15:39.220 And I have a question for Dr. Sad.
01:15:42.720 But first, let me thank you, Brother Rashid, for your Twitter account, for your X account.
01:15:50.180 It's been really helpful for me.
01:15:53.620 Not only that, maybe you haven't noticed it, but I have translated many of your tweets in Spanish, and you have no idea how many insults I'm getting in your name, okay?
01:16:05.180 Welcome to the club.
01:16:07.380 A lot of them.
01:16:08.640 And second to Dr. Gad, it's always a privilege to hear you.
01:16:14.600 Let me structure my question because it's a little bit complicated.
01:16:17.500 Do you believe that this anti-Semitism that we are seeing today is going to get worse, worse and worse by the days, in the weeks and months ahead?
01:16:31.300 I ask you this because even in Latin America, as you can see right now, countries like Colombia and Chile and Nicaragua and many others of them are caught in relationships with Israel. 0.62
01:16:45.620 Because one way or another, free Palestine, Israel has to die from the river to the sea, it's my song, it's getting irrevocable marriage, married to socialism, communism, and all of this. 0.97
01:17:07.440 So I'm seeing that not only the anti-Semitism is becoming a force, but it's also becoming a political force for the left, for the radical left in Latin America.
01:17:20.520 And my question is, I mean, this is going to get worse and worse?
01:17:24.640 Even not only the anti-Semitism, it's also the anti-Christianism, because a lot of Christians like me and hundreds of thousands of others are supporting the right to Israel to defend.
01:17:37.080 So where do you see that this is going in the weeks and months to come?
01:17:43.360 Thank you.
01:17:45.060 Thank you very much for your question.
01:17:47.560 Well, if you might have noticed, I put out several tweets, at least one of which went absolutely globally viral, I think 11, 12 million views a couple of weeks ago,
01:17:57.740 where I was in a very somber mood, where I was quite surprisingly dark, because I precisely recognize that which you're saying, Mr. Miguel,
01:18:11.480 which is that things just don't look good, and they don't look good for several related reasons.
01:18:17.820 And here, some of you may have heard me mention this analogy.
01:18:22.840 If you go to see your physician, and your physician says, God forbid, you've got stage 4 cancer, and here's what you need to do to fix it,
01:18:31.680 imagine if your response is the following.
01:18:34.260 First of all, I don't believe there is such a thing called cancer. 0.91
01:18:37.740 Second of all, if there is such a thing called cancer, it's the Jews that did it. 1.00
01:18:41.880 Third of all, if there is a cure for cancer, the Jews are holding the cure because they want to make money through the pharmaceuticals. 1.00
01:18:49.780 Fourth of all, I'm going to smoke four packs a day, and I'm going to inhale a bag of asbestos,
01:18:55.920 because I don't believe that there is such a link with cancer.
01:18:59.100 Now, what is this analogy demonstrating?
01:19:01.720 It's one thing to have, let's say, Jew hatred. 0.73
01:19:05.700 It's another thing to have an ill-advised immigration policy.
01:19:09.980 But it's a lot worse when you don't even recognize that there is those problems,
01:19:15.980 and you double down on the mechanisms that led to those problems.
01:19:21.500 So that's why I became very somber, because everywhere I look, you know, by disposition, I'm a fighter.
01:19:29.500 I'm someone who is very happy, very optimistic.
01:19:32.680 I wake up every day, all right, let's make the world a better place.
01:19:35.900 But then what happened since October 7th, everywhere I turned, I saw no exit.
01:19:43.020 I didn't see any exit.
01:19:44.580 I didn't see the exit from leaders speaking the right way.
01:19:48.060 I didn't see an exit from academics speaking the right way.
01:19:51.920 I didn't see an exit from seeing the presidents of universities speaking the right way.
01:19:56.720 I didn't see an exit in seeing at least the protests on the street going in the right way.
01:20:02.220 So everywhere I looked, I saw only worse.
01:20:06.560 So to answer your question in a long-winded way, I expect things to get a lot worse.
01:20:12.280 That's why when I often tweet, I sarcastically say, oh, don't worry.
01:20:18.400 There's nothing to worry about.
01:20:19.860 I'm sure it will all work out.
01:20:21.420 And what I'm saying there, of course, sarcastically is, we are going down a horrifyingly dangerous road.
01:20:28.260 Now, most people think that when I make those big pronouncements, oh, come on, you're exaggerating.
01:20:35.080 You're being hyperbolic.
01:20:36.420 Do you really mean it?
01:20:37.360 Well, guess what?
01:20:38.320 Many people today are writing to me in the thousands saying, oh, boy, I wish we would have listened to you.
01:20:44.220 But they only see it as relevant when it hits them personally, right?
01:20:49.360 When their daughter was threatened at Cornell, this is when I get the email, dear Dr. Saad, I should have listened to you.
01:20:58.520 Because you don't have the imagination to be able to extrapolate what's coming down the road until it hits you.
01:21:07.620 That's the problem.
01:21:08.840 Whereas I sit from top of the mountain and I'm saying, hey, guys, it doesn't take a fancy professor to know where this is going.
01:21:16.640 If you're going to keep an immigration policy that allows millions of people who hate Jews, you're going to have increased Jew hatred.
01:21:26.740 Does that mean that most people from those cultures are mean?
01:21:29.620 Of course, it doesn't mean that.
01:21:31.060 But it's a game of statistics.
01:21:33.100 Life is managing statistical regularities.
01:21:36.620 And so you play the game at your peril.
01:21:38.860 So to conclude, Mr. Miguel, it's going to get a lot worse.
01:21:43.840 Buckle up, fasten your seatbelt.
01:21:46.640 Dr. Saad, I really appreciate your time.
01:21:50.480 I can listen to you for hours.
01:21:53.000 And I have a question, though.
01:21:57.140 I regret not asking it earlier.
01:22:00.760 It's related to the interdoc sympathy, I would say.
01:22:08.240 Do you think people sympathizing with Palestinians has to do with the interdoc?
01:22:15.020 Because Israel is a powerful state when it comes to weapons and army.
01:22:21.300 Also, it's helped by the U.S. and Europeans.
01:22:25.080 So it doesn't matter where the truth is.
01:22:27.560 It just we stand with the interdoc.
01:22:29.660 How accurate is that?
01:22:30.840 Well, there's definitely some accuracy to that because it comes from the ideology of Marxism, which views the world as oppressed and oppressor.
01:22:43.180 In the context of Marxism, it's in the context of socioeconomic realities.
01:22:47.620 There's the proletariat and there's the bourgeoisie.
01:22:50.940 By definition, the bourgeoisie, to the extent that they are owners, that they own capital, they must be evil.
01:22:59.500 They must have obtained this through some diabolical means. 0.99
01:23:03.300 And therefore, Marxist revolution, let's go and kill all the bourgeoisie. 0.95
01:23:08.060 And so the Marxist lens, hence the term cultural Marxism, views the entire dynamics of history through the binary lens of oppressed and oppressor. 0.98
01:23:20.220 So in the context of feminism, there is the poor, hapless women and there is the evil patriarchy. 1.00
01:23:27.420 Now, that's a very psychologically alluring view of the world because it simplifies things in a very clean way.
01:23:34.600 There is good.
01:23:35.560 There is bad.
01:23:36.320 And it's very easy to see who's whom. 0.98
01:23:39.500 So in the context of Palestinian, most people, by the way, are cognitive misers. 1.00
01:23:45.240 That's a fancy term I use to mean basically intellectually lazy. 0.93
01:23:48.760 It's simply too hard and effortful to think.
01:23:51.600 So I'm going to use some shortcuts to arrive at the conclusions of the world.
01:23:55.360 And so therefore, when I see in the Intifada a 15-year-old using a slingshot with a little rock to hit the really big, mean Jewish tank, well, it's very easy for me to say little kid with a slingshot and rock versus mean Jewish tank. 0.88
01:24:14.540 Of course, the little kid is the oppressed. 1.00
01:24:17.340 But that's because most people are complete degenerate idiots, right? 1.00
01:24:22.260 That's why you have to educate them about what the reality is. 1.00
01:24:26.680 But that's why it's almost an impossible task, because for each X spaces that I do with 300 people, I will have now a tsunami of 10,000 people who will say, oh, you're posting a picture of you eating. 0.88
01:24:40.900 Do you know how many Gazans today died because of your Jewish brothers killing them? 1.00
01:24:45.680 So there is no way to beat the tsunami of stupidity. 1.00
01:24:49.160 So that's why I'm dark. 1.00
01:24:50.580 But I want to leave it on a good note.
01:24:53.700 I do think that existentially speaking, eventually goodness wins, truth wins.
01:25:01.400 The regrettable part is for truth to win.
01:25:04.440 Sometimes it requires for many, many, many people to die.
01:25:08.540 So we could have solved this problem with very few deaths.
01:25:12.920 Regrettably, we will solve it in 50 years with many more deaths.
01:25:16.760 We could have avoided this whole problem had we thought better.
01:25:21.020 Thank you so much, Dr. Saad.
01:25:22.860 I will leave it here because I respect your time.
01:25:25.260 I respect my, I promised you just one hour, but I went over one hour by 25 minutes.
01:25:31.360 I really appreciate your time, and I hope to see you more often.
01:25:35.600 Thank you so much.
01:25:36.380 Thanks for having me.
01:25:37.160 Take care, everybody.
01:25:38.100 Take care.
01:25:38.400 Bye.
01:25:38.540 Thank you.
01:25:38.840 Bye.
01:25:39.180 Bye.