In this episode, Dr. Saad Azlan talks about why Jews are the most persecuted people on earth, and why they have a psychological explanation for why they are so bad at maths. He explains it in simple terms: it's because they are Jewish.
00:05:07.080So, I mean, there is an explanation for why Jewish people are successful,
00:05:13.420which then manifests itself in many places, one of which is money.
00:05:18.320And so I'll give the more general explanation using a personal anecdote.
00:05:22.680And this is actually a story that I recount in one of my books, In the Parasitic Mind.
00:05:28.680So I always was very good at two things.
00:05:32.220And I was only interested in becoming one of those two things, a soccer player and a professor.
00:05:38.440So you could have gone to me when I was 10, and I would have told you, I'm going to become a professor and I'm going to become a professional soccer player.
00:05:45.060For various reasons, which I've recounted elsewhere, including in the Parasitic Mind, my soccer career didn't flourish as much as I would have liked it to.
00:05:54.560I did reach a high level, but not nearly as high as I would have wanted to, injuries and so on.
00:05:59.000And so I quickly then embarked on my academic career, got my first degree.
00:06:05.220And me telling you about my CV is relevant to the story.
00:06:09.240So I'm not just using this opportunity to tell you about my degrees.
00:06:13.300So my first degree was in mathematics and computer science at one of the leading universities, certainly in Canada, if not the world.
00:06:20.680My second degree was in MBA with a mini thesis in operations research, which is an applied mathematics field.
00:06:28.540And then I was going on to pursue my MS and my PhD.
00:06:33.320At one point, I had been invited to University of California, Irvine.
00:06:50.680At the time, he was a very successful entrepreneur.
00:06:53.740And he was trying to convince me, since he lived very close to that university, he was trying to say, well, look, you already have an undergrad and MBA.
00:07:02.760Why don't you come work with me, put on the proverbial suit, get a couple of years of experience, and then you could go back to pursue your PhD.
00:07:10.060He's my older brother, so I have to be respectful and listen to him.
00:07:12.860But I really was not interested in not pursuing my PhD because I already knew what my trajectory would be.
00:07:18.340Well, when my mother got wind of the fact that my brother was trying to convince me to not pursue my PhD and I had returned to Montreal and I was visiting them at their house, she takes me in sort of very alarmed, agitated state to another room.
00:07:38.000She goes, well, I'm hearing that you're thinking about quitting school.
00:07:41.020I said, well, before I could finish, she says, well, you know that then people are going to view you as somebody who dropped out of school.
00:09:32.780First, in my latest book, in the happiness book, I have an entire chapter on something that Aristotle had already explained to us, the golden mean.
00:09:46.460The golden mean, put in the parlance of today's language, too little of something is not good.
00:10:45.380So, of course, you don't want it to be so oppressive that, you know, you're afraid that you're going to be beaten if you come home with an A minus.
00:10:54.140But you have to find that temperance point.
00:10:56.260The second one, how do you teach people to have that mindset?
00:11:00.620Well, have the accurate attributional style that I spoke about earlier.
00:11:05.960Not all faults are due to the nasty outside world, right?
00:11:11.520So, for example, if you are an entrepreneur who has failed in your last five endeavors, a good entrepreneur would say, well, of course, there are vagaries that couldn't have been under my control.
00:11:24.860But are there any decision-making processes that I'm making that perhaps could have contributed to these five failures?
00:11:32.520Well, the mere fact that you asked that question at least offers you the opportunity to learn from your mistakes.
00:11:39.220But if I come into the process a priori saying that, by definition, it could never be due to me, it must be that the customers are too stupid to have understood my brilliance, well, I'm likely to fail again.
00:11:51.740So be humble in how you attribute successes and failures in your life.
00:11:55.560So I want to come to the parasitic mind soon.
00:11:59.900And I know you're talking a lot at the moment on X about suicidal empathy.
00:12:13.920I was honored to be invited to Mar-a-Lago last month for a mega event.
00:12:21.960Mega stands for make education great again.
00:12:26.960And, you know, given that he is, you know, orange Himmler and he's an existential threat, I'm happy to report that I made it into the den of evil and came out alive, despite the fact that I'm sure that his henchmen knew that I was Jewish.
00:12:43.380So apparently it's safe to be within a 10 meter radius of him and survive.
00:13:02.820So, for example, before Donald Trump had won his first term, I had appeared on many shows, most famously on Sam Harris's show, just before the election.
00:13:17.180I think it might have been in October 2016.
00:13:20.080And, you know, Sam had already, you know, gotten pretty agitated about the possibility of Donald Trump.
00:13:26.800And I was trying to explain using principles from behavioral decision theory, how perfectly rational people could totally vote for Donald Trump.
00:13:39.660So, for example, in decision making, one decision rule that people can use is what's called the lexicographic rule.
00:13:47.800So the lexicographic rule basically says choose your most important attribute and choose the candidate that scores best on that attribute.
00:13:57.440So, for example, if I'm choosing between cars and if I'm Greta Thunberg and I only care about green issues, then I will choose the car that has the best gas efficiency because I'm going to use the lexicographic rule.
00:14:10.740Notice that if I apply that rule, I didn't look at the other 25 attributes that define cars.
00:14:16.580I only looked at that singular attribute.
00:14:19.620Now, consumers use the lexicographic rule for many decisions.
00:14:23.340When I'm buying toothpaste, I don't care about which one gives me better cavity protection.
00:14:28.540I just pick the one that's most on sale.
00:14:30.960Therefore, I'm using the lexicographic rule when choosing toothpaste.
00:14:34.060So now let's apply that for the choice between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump at the time, 2016.
00:14:41.060If all I care about is immigration policy, that's my lexicographic attribute.
00:14:47.060And if rightly or wrongly, although it turns out to be rightly, I think that Donald Trump would perform better on closing the borders than a perfectly rational human being would choose Donald Trump.
00:14:59.620And so I laid all that out with all of the fancy professorial things that you could imagine.
00:15:05.160And yet many people were still screaming a la Sam Harris.
00:15:08.860And so, yes, I never questioned the fact that he should be president, especially in light of the people whom he was going up against.
00:15:18.440There could have been a different world where you would have said between Donald Trump and this other person, who do you prefer?
00:15:24.580And I would have chosen someone other than Donald Trump.
00:15:26.640But it was absolutely clear to me that given the zeitgeist, Donald Trump was unequivocally the better candidate.
00:15:36.320So let me step back and get to that term.
00:15:40.200When I first began as a professor, so this is my 31st year as a professor, my goal.
00:15:46.260So the academic career that I was trying to trace for myself was to infuse evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology in the study of human behavior in general and consumer and economic behavior in particular.
00:16:02.740That's why I'm housed in a business school.
00:16:04.800And so how do you apply biological principles to explain our consumatory nature?
00:16:10.160And as I began that career, I quickly saw that most of my colleagues were astonishingly imbecilic, whereby they actually thought that it was a terribly controversial idea.
00:16:27.980Get ready, Rob, I hope you're sitting down that, you know, hormones affect human behavior.
00:16:36.840Because they exist in the rarefied ivory tower where you speak with a progressive lisp where biology applies to lowly creatures like the mosquito, like the zebra, like your dog.
00:16:52.440But surely, human beings are cultural animals, we transcend our biology, right?
00:16:58.500And so that was my first exposure to sort of the, oh, Houston, we have a problem here.
00:17:04.880Well, how could these otherwise educated, intelligent people be so hostile to what seems to me to be a profoundly obvious thing, which is, of course, our biology affects our behavior.
00:17:17.840And it doesn't stop affecting our behavior when we put on our consumer hat.
00:17:22.520So that was my first exposure to ideological rapture.
00:17:28.040And as my career progressed, and as I explained in The Parasitic Mind, I first faced the first great war in my life was the Lebanese Civil War.
00:17:37.420The second great war was the war on reason that I saw every day around me on university campuses.
00:17:45.400So then I thought to myself, okay, what could explain this kind of zombified rapture, right?
00:17:54.280And so because I'm an evolutionist, therefore I look at the behavior of other animals, I started looking for a framework that would help me understand this kind of zombified thinking.
00:18:07.000And so the field of parasitology is the study of interactions between parasites and their hosts in nature.
00:18:16.540Well, a parasite could be in many places in the host's body.
00:18:21.080So for example, a tapeworm parasitizes your intestinal tract.
00:18:26.260But I was looking for a parasite that would find its home in the host's brain, altering its behavior to suit the interest of the parasite.
00:18:36.000So once I found that, which is the field called neuroparasitology, I said, aha, I have my epiphany now.
00:18:43.920I will now argue that human beings could not only be parasitized by actual physical brain worms.
00:18:51.680There is a second class of brain worms, which I called parasitic ideas or idea pathogens that can cause you to hold certain positions that are bafflingly removed from reality and hence zombify you, right?
00:19:09.920So on a given analogy for the people who may not be familiar with my work, the wood cricket is an insect that abhors water.
00:19:19.000It wants no part of anything to do with water.
00:19:22.240When it is parasitized by a hair worm, it's a neuroparasite, the hair worm needs the wood cricket to jump into water so that it could complete its reproductive cycle.
00:19:34.200Well, a parasitized wood cricket will merrily jump and commit suicide in the service of that hair worm, right?
00:19:45.640That's what explains something like, of course, six foot four, 285 pound John with a nine inch penis could tomorrow call himself Linda, become a girl and is fully justified in sharing the bathroom with your eight year old daughter.
00:20:09.580Only Neanderthal buffoons, baboons would say otherwise.
00:20:16.240You see the analogy between the wood cricket jumping into the water and this kind of position.
00:20:21.820And so that is how I then developed the idea of ideological neuro parasitic rapture and hence the parasitic mind.
00:20:32.280And so you wrote the book, I believe, the parasitic mind. Is that right?
00:20:37.860What was the purpose of writing that book? What was your aim?
00:20:41.400Right. So it was to, well, first to explain all that I just did, how human minds that are supposed to be endowed with the capacity to reason could become so utterly removed from reason.
00:20:53.940Where do these idea pathogens come from?
00:20:56.900And regrettably, as I have repeatedly explained, they all were spawned on university campuses because it takes the unique insights of professors to come up with some of the dumbest ideas.
00:21:09.900So I explain where those ideas come from.
00:21:12.760And then toward the end of the book, I offer a mind vaccine against those dreadful ideas.
00:21:21.440Postmodernism is the granddaddy of all idea pathogens because it purports that there are no objective truths other than the one objective truth that there are no objective truths.
00:21:33.360Right. That's what allows me to then say up is down, freedom is slavery, war is peace, nine inch penis men are women and so on.
00:21:42.900Right. So postmodernism is the root idea pathogen from which all of the other ones can flourish.
00:21:52.200Who are we to judge the cultural practices of another culture?
00:21:56.800If they like to cut off the clitorises of five-year-old girls, don't be a bigot, Rob.
00:22:02.880Do not judge others for wanting to do that.
00:22:05.520Well, that makes me then impotent to be able to fight against these ideas in my society.
00:22:11.780Radical feminism is another idea pathogen.
00:22:14.500There are no innate sex differences between men and women.
00:22:17.240The only reason why Rob can bench press more than Linda is because his parents taught him to play rough and tumble, whereas they taught Linda to play soft and nurturing.
00:22:27.980There are no physiological, hormonal, morphological, anatomical, behavioral differences between men and women.
00:22:36.060So each of these idea pathogens start off with a noble cause.
00:22:41.280But then in the service of that noble cause, if they have to murder and rape truth, so be it.
00:22:46.600And so what the book does is it traces the history of all this nonsense and then offers an inoculation against the nonsense.
00:22:55.340Is that to some degree what a woke mind virus is?
00:23:29.100The ability for human minds or the capacity for human minds to be parasitized is not new to the current period, right?
00:23:37.120So there was a time a couple of hundred years ago where when we thought that our neighbors were witches, where we would throw them into, we would throw my neighbor Linda into water.
00:23:50.620And if she swam, then that proved that she was a witch and then we would burn her at the stake.
00:23:55.760And if she sank and drowned, then oops, I guess she wasn't a witch, right?
00:24:00.400And that was a perfectly reasonable way to organize society.
00:24:17.760So the capacity for human minds to be parasitized by insane ideas is part of the human architecture since time immemorial.
00:24:31.320What is unique to the current period are the specific idea pathogens that are infecting our minds, right?
00:24:38.080So postmodernism didn't exist until 50, 60 years ago when a bunch of French bullshitters came up with some of this nonsense.
00:24:46.620Jacques Lacan, Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, and so on, right?
00:24:51.220So the specific idea pathogens that lead to the woke mind virus are specific to today's era.
00:24:58.920But the capacity for the human minds to believe bullshit, that has existed since the start of time.
00:25:05.520So, Dr. Saad, you've got my mind racing on why this is and what we can do to, I guess, be in touch with reality.
00:25:19.740So something I've aspired to do for many years, I've been an entrepreneur for 20 years and trying to successfully balance having a successful business,
00:25:28.960being a successful person, doing good and being commercial and balance all those.
00:25:35.520One of the things I've tried to seek out is what is objective reality as opposed to subjective fantasy?
00:25:44.860Because I think if you're objective about the reality of what's going on in your personal life and in business and on your balance sheet,
00:25:50.800and if you're a good person or not, you can improve because you can find your strengths and weaknesses.
00:25:56.140The problem with seeking objective reality is how can we be objective?
00:26:03.080Because everything is filtered through ourselves.
00:26:05.600Therefore, we are inherently defined as subjective.
00:26:08.880So we've almost got to negate self and subjectivity and our own ideologies to be able to seek reality.
00:28:28.160Even though your Aunt Linda is taller than your Uncle Jethro.
00:28:33.000The singular datum does not invalidate what is true at the population level.
00:28:38.240So science could not exist if there weren't objective truths.
00:28:43.380By the way, this is the reason why, depending on which discipline you are in university, will determine the extent to which you are inoculated against those parasitic ideas.
00:28:55.420No one is completely inoculated, but I'm housed at a business school.
00:29:01.740So the top two departments or schools that are least likely to be parasitized by this nonsense are the business school and the engineering school.
00:30:07.900There are many domains in our lives that are inherently subjective and prone to bias.
00:30:13.240But there are many other domains, certainly the pursuit of truth, where if you come with the premise that everything is relative, then you might as well not get out of bed.
00:30:24.620Is Elon Musk a net positive or a net negative for humanity?
00:30:31.600Astronomically net positive and almost no negative, right?
00:30:36.260Now, I can answer this both just as a person who's in the public space and I can see what Elon Musk is doing, or I can use the fact that I know him personally and have spent time with him.
00:30:50.980You know, Elon Musk, his metric, and I mean, I'm not speaking for him because we had a chat, a public chat, where he said this himself.
00:30:59.500Elon Musk wakes up every day and says, what are some important problems that exist and how could I put my mind to solving those problems?
00:31:10.740That strikes me as something by which we should all be adhering to those pursuits, right?
00:31:16.100So, you know, his pecuniary success, meaning his monetary success, has come as an outcome of his other pursuits, right?
00:31:28.180Like, he didn't wake up in the morning and say, I'd like to be the richest person in human history.
00:32:13.720But I've spent 31 years now living a very difficult life in academia, because given the bizarro world we live in, all of the stuff that I espouse is extremely dangerous and corrosive.
00:32:29.200But like freedom of speech and freedom of inquiry, and there is such a thing as male and female, and biology does matter, right?
00:32:36.940The average three-day-old squirrel would understand that to be true, but it's apparently not clear in academia.
00:33:05.760I never set out with, I hope one day to be famous enough that Elon Musk notices me, or that I could be well-known enough that Rob Moore or Pierce Morgan invited me on my show.
00:33:34.060And if we do, do we have Elon Musk to thank for that in part?
00:33:38.020I mean, we don't have complete freedom of speech.
00:33:42.220And I'm going to answer it in a way that might at first seem surprising.
00:33:45.880The biggest threat to freedom of speech, I mean, short of you living in North Korea or under ISIS, is not the institutional obstacles to freedom of speech, but the self-inflicted restrictions.
00:34:06.260Now, for better or worse, I don't suffer from that reflex.
00:34:09.940I never modulate a millimeter of what my heart and mind tells me to say, for better or worse, because based on my own code of personal conduct, if I modulate that, then I feel that I'm being fraudulent, that I'm not being fully truthful.
00:34:28.500I can't put my head on my pillow at the end of the night to sleep if I say, oh, you know, I should have actually said really what I meant.
00:34:35.860No, I just come at you, not because I'm mean, not because I'm impolite, because no metric is more important than being truthful.
00:34:45.880So we don't have full freedom of speech because we self-regulate, unfortunately, right?
00:34:53.480So the student who sits in class, notwithstanding that you tell them, please feel free to say whatever you want in this class, even though I've given them full reign to say whatever they want, they may decide, I better not say that I actually love Donald Trump because my group members will think I'm a bad person, so let me shut up.
00:35:18.120Well, therefore, he doesn't have full freedom of speech because he's self-regulating.
00:35:21.500What Elon Musk did with him purchasing Twitter, I mean, literally, probably within a day or two of that announcements being made, I went publicly and said, and I even have a clip on my YouTube channel where I say this, I said that of all things that Elon Musk has done so far, and of all things that he will ever do in the future, nothing will be remotely as important as him having purchased Twitter.
00:35:50.440And I think the reality proves that to be an accurate prediction, because imagine the world we would be in if we weren't able to speak the way that we can on X today, it would be unthinkable.
00:36:04.900Wow. Just recently, Dr. Sardin, I'm sure you saw this, Mark Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan, and I respect what he's done in his field and as an entrepreneur, so I'm certainly not a hater.
00:36:17.620But, you know, I have had, I have put thousands of hours into that platform, honestly, putting content out every day for eight, ten years, built up half a million followers the hard way, and I must have been shadow banned, dereached, slapped, demonetized, this, that, and the other a dozen times.
00:36:37.440And as it turns out, what I said was true.
00:36:42.140And then he comes out and it's like, oh, well, it was like something out of 1984 and the Biden administration made me do it, and we're getting rid of fact checkers, and we're all for not, you know, no censorship.
00:36:54.960And part of me thought, hallelujah, I support the right decision.
00:36:59.380And part of me thought, I fucking knew it, and I'm still pissed off with you.
00:37:04.700Yeah, forgive me, I didn't mean to interrupt you, because I got your question.
00:37:09.920I'm completely in agreement with you, in that on the one hand, you want to show grace to people who come around, you want the tent to be fully welcoming, you want to adhere to the adage, better late than never.
00:37:25.220So, yes, I agree with you, but I also share your incredible frustration, not only because he also, I mean, for probably eight years, I didn't have a single growth of my following on Facebook, right?
00:37:40.620So, I could have millions of followers elsewhere, and even until today, I'm almost, by the way, I've been rejected getting verified on Instagram many, many times, right?
00:37:51.780Because no one's ever heard of me, right?
00:37:54.780Whereas you can have 300 followers, and you're verified immediately.
00:38:01.000I've tried several times, not because it's an ego boost to have the blue mark, but because I don't want other people to be, you know, mimicking my profile and so on, and it's been rejected.
00:38:13.040And now, if you go on Instagram, I'm not verified.
00:38:15.460So, I should, but I actually have even more disdain than you do towards Mark Zuckerberg.
00:38:23.560I was mentioning earlier that there's nothing more important than authenticity, than truth, right?
00:38:29.960I admire Elon Musk greatly because he exhibits all of those traits.
00:39:37.200It's an incredibly powerful concept, which I originally described in my evolutionary psychology work, and then applied it to, say, virtue signaling in the woke context.
00:39:48.520Everybody can put hashtag BLM or can put the Ukrainian flag, right?
00:40:02.200On the other hand, if you speak out against Islam while you're living in Islamic societies, that's a costly signal, right?
00:40:11.680Now, where does the term costly signal come from in biology?
00:40:16.780Natural selection is the Darwinian mechanism that explains how animals, including humans, evolve traits that confer survival advantage, right?
00:40:27.540So, for example, we prefer the taste of fatty foods because we've evolved an environment of caloric scarcity and caloric uncertainty, and therefore, it makes sense that your ancestors and mine have evolved those gustatory preferences, okay?
01:00:39.520And I was telling her, I mean, on air, you know, I wonder if I should have at times modulated a bit more my speech to my earlier point.
01:00:52.240Now, I knew that deep down I didn't regret that.
01:00:54.480But like because I know that, you know, there were professorships in Southern California where I wanted to end up that I knew the people were very interested in bringing me.
01:01:05.260Oh, but, you know, he used that word on Twitter.
01:01:07.840And so I thought, you know, I wonder if I if I would have played the game a bit more, you know, would that have led me to not be living in the frozen tundra for the last number of years?
01:01:19.320And then Megyn Kelly, to her credit, said something, which, frankly, in the deep recess of my mind, I agreed.
01:01:26.400And given my authenticity, I don't regret that I'm so authentic.
01:01:30.380She said, but had you not done those things, then we wouldn't be in love with the person that you are.
01:01:37.900You wouldn't have the form that you are.
01:01:41.800And that's probably my biggest regret, frankly, that I wasn't able to fully instantiate my talent in soccer.
01:01:47.600Her answer was, then you wouldn't be who you are.
01:01:50.060So probably every four years when the World Cup comes and I see the magic of the World Cup and I think, my God, how metaphysical it would have been to be playing in a field with 100,000 people, you know, screaming when you make a beautiful pass.
01:02:11.800I regret that I'll never experience that, but such is life.
01:02:16.000So I know you've written a book about happiness and I've been trying to figure out happiness, maybe more deep or intellectually, maybe the last 20 years.
01:02:29.460And a mentor of mine was sat in the back of a car as we were going to an event and he was meditating and I was finding it a bit weird.
01:02:37.260And he came out of his meditation and he looked at me and he said, Rob, I gave up happiness years ago because it made me so damn depressed.
01:02:48.300And that really, you know, upside downed my thought about happiness, which was, you know, the pursuit of freedom and, you know, feeling good, whether it was elation or contentment or, you know, satisfaction.
01:03:05.420But I realised, this is a theory I'd like to ask you about, is that I don't think happiness is the goal of life.
01:03:15.880I think it's an ideology that's very much of the left.
01:03:19.560It could be suicidal empathy, in fact, to think that the mission is happiness.
01:03:24.200And they, they, Johnny got sixth place and we're all really happy.
01:03:29.300And I feel like my happiest moments have been right after the hardest moments, the hardest interviews, the hardest property projects we've developed.
01:03:50.940So in the last chapter of my happiness book, I take a quote from Viktor Frankl, you know, The Meaning of Life, where he's saying, you don't seek success, you, I'm paraphrasing it, I don't have the exact quote for me, but it is an outcome of making the right decisions.
01:04:13.440And I said, well, just replace the word success with happiness and there you have it.
01:04:18.500So I don't wake up in the morning and say, what are the willful things that I can do to be happy, right?
01:04:59.180You're born with a sunny disposition or you're born with a more dour disposition, that you can't control.
01:05:05.660But the good news, Rob, is that if 50% of your happiness is inscribed in your genes, that means there's another 50% up for grabs.
01:05:14.300Now, I don't wake up and say, so what can I do to be happy?
01:05:19.740But I do know that there are certain predictors that if I adopt those mindsets or if I make those right decisions, it will statistically increase my chance of being happy.
01:05:31.280So, for example, I argue that the two top decisions that will either impart the most happiness or the most misery upon you are choosing the right spouse and choosing the right profession.
01:05:43.140And it's not terribly metaphysical and difficult to explain.
01:05:47.560If I wake up in the morning next to someone and my reaction is either yes or not another one next to this one, well, I'm on my way to either being very happy or being very unhappy.
01:05:59.740Now, after I leave that person, if I go to a job that gives me great purpose and meaning, to your point, the toughest interview you did, you came out, yeah, that was amazing.
01:06:10.420The toughest real estate project that you did, if that gives me purpose and meaning, okay, great.
01:06:16.080And now I return home to that person that I really love, I've pretty much cracked the code of living a good life.
01:06:22.420Now, is it guaranteed that the person you choose will give you?
01:06:27.320No, that's why life is navigating through statistical probabilities.
01:06:32.220But there are things that I can do that augment the likelihood of finding the right spouse.
01:06:37.960So, for example, birds of a feather flock together versus opposites attract.
01:06:43.660Those are two opposites maxims in terms of who you should choose your life.
01:06:48.440Well, the research is unequivocally clear that when it comes to long-term success of a union, a marriage, birds of a feather flock together is much more operative.
01:06:59.580Now, flocking on witch feathers, if we share values, if we share belief systems, if we shared worldviews, that is going to greatly increase the likelihood of us being happy.
01:07:20.520If my spouse is a committed Catholic who lives her life being closer to Christ, it doesn't take a fancy professor to say we're starting on the wrong footing.
01:07:32.440Yes, you'd like to think that love conquers all, but it doesn't.
01:07:36.440And so, if you can find someone that shares your foundational values, you're certainly doing a good job.
01:07:43.620So, for example, I'm a very playful person, the fact that I could be with someone who appreciates my playfulness, who shares, that birds of a feather flock together makes our union that much more enjoyable because she really is truly my best friend with whom I say she.
01:08:03.300He is my best friend and therefore we could play together, right?
01:08:08.020So, to summarize the long-winded answer that I gave you, don't pursue happiness willfully, rather pursue life with honesty, dignity and authenticity and the downstream effects as you'll wake up and you'll say, hmm, life is good.
01:08:27.140And the final question is, this show is called Disruptors.
01:08:31.060What does the word disruptive mean to you?
01:08:37.060It means that if 99 other people say this, it doesn't mean that you have to say so if you've got compelling evidence that suggests otherwise.
01:08:49.220A disruptor, in a sense, has to be a honey badger.
01:08:53.380Let me explain to, I don't know how much of your audience is British or not, but many people don't understand the reference of a honey badger.
01:08:59.720In the last chapter of The Parasitic Mind, I implore people to activate their inner honey badger.
01:09:07.680Because it has been ranked as the most ferocious and fiercest animal.
01:09:14.140Now, that's a big title to have because there's a lot of fierce animals out there.
01:09:19.460It's the size of a small to medium-sized dog, 40 pounds, and yet it is so ferocious that six adult lions can come to it in the savannah and they see it and they go, oh, I don't want to mess with this guy.
01:10:55.020But each of my books, you know, is quite different.
01:10:57.680If you're very interested in, you know, evolutionary psychology and how an understanding of our biological heritage affects our human behavior, then you want to go into my earlier books.
01:11:08.000If you're interested in happiness, you want to go to my latest book, but probably the kind of entry point to Gadsad that most people are not familiar with is The Parasitic Mind because it was the most popular book I wrote.
01:11:19.720So this has been fun, entertaining, enlightening.