The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - February 03, 2025


UATX Lecture - Evolutionary Psychology, The Parasitic Mind, & Suicidal Empathy (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_790)


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In this episode, Dr. gad sad talks about his research in evolutionary psychology, the parasitic mind, and his new book, Suicidal Empathy. This lecture was delivered at the University of the Austrian School of Social Sciences in Austin.

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00:00:00.000 in a few minutes i'll be delivering a lecture at uatx it is part evolutionary psychology part
00:00:07.300 the parasitic mind and part my next book my forthcoming book on suicidal empathy
00:00:12.700 thank you for heating the call uh from the soapbox and for being here nice and prompt
00:00:19.240 for another fantastic wednesday speaker series although i really shouldn't say another
00:00:25.720 because uh this is in fact a marquee event um our fantastic board of trustees uh brent i can see
00:00:37.020 you here in the audience tonight um have asked us as a staff and a faculty to redouble our efforts
00:00:44.800 in getting the leading public intellectuals not just in the united states but in the world
00:00:50.720 uh to come here to campus to enrich the intellectual lives of our students
00:00:56.800 uh and to hopefully form more permanent relationships with the polity here at uatx
00:01:04.480 now what is a public intellectual uh is something that should become clear in dean morgan marietta's
00:01:11.580 introduction of our guest gad sad this evening uh but gad on behalf of the trustees the management
00:01:19.160 the faculty the faculty the staff and students here at the university of austin a very warm welcome
00:01:23.420 to you and i'll hand over to the dean to make your introductions
00:01:26.280 good afternoon everyone i will be brief uh which shows that people can actually grow and change
00:01:39.680 um because i want professor sad to have as much time as possible to talk to you about his ideas and for
00:01:48.520 you to ask him questions because gad sad might be the most important public intellectual working
00:01:59.720 today and what he is going to say is far more important than anything that i would say
00:02:07.240 but just by way of introduction allow me to say this one thing
00:02:11.000 at a school like uatx which claims to be in favor of open inquiry which is to say that students and faculty
00:02:23.880 can ask any question they find compelling and claims to believe and promote creatives empiricism
00:02:32.840 which means that students and faculty can look at any evidence that they want to
00:02:38.200 especially the evidence that people don't want them to look at such a university i argue should notice a
00:02:48.600 distinction between what you could call a tame lion a domesticated lion and a real lion
00:03:00.440 a tame lion might look like a lion might roar a bit but isn't so dangerous
00:03:12.600 a domesticated lion might ask an important question but then not ask other ones because they're impolite
00:03:21.000 a tame lion might look at some evidence but not really at other ones a tame lion asks himself should i really
00:03:34.280 offend should i really be impolite do i have to be that lion every day the domesticated lion asks
00:03:44.040 should i really kill that warthog in front of the children but the real lion the real lion thinks
00:03:54.040 the warthog had it coming because lions after all eat herd animals and herd animals tend to tell the lies
00:04:08.120 of their herd and lions don't like that so in a culture that has hunted most of its lions to extinction
00:04:23.640 and the lions that remain face deep incentives to domesticate themselves
00:04:29.240 it is a great pleasure to me at this university to introduce a real lion
00:04:43.400 facade thank you sir
00:04:44.840 uh i've received many lovely introductions i've never been uh compared to a majestic line i'm adding
00:05:03.400 majestic just to make me even more impressive uh so thank you for that beautiful introduction thank
00:05:08.360 you ben thank you everybody who's here all the people who made me feel so appreciated and welcome here
00:05:13.320 um so today what i'm going to do is just give you a bit of an overview you know 45 50 minutes i can't
00:05:21.240 really get into too many things in great details but i will touch briefly on evolutionary psychology
00:05:26.360 which is my main area of academic research and then i'll talk about the parasitic mind many of you
00:05:32.200 might know that book and then the the continuing of that story which is the forthcoming book suicidal
00:05:38.760 empathy and so hopefully you'll get a bit of a gist of some of the things that i do i'm going to start
00:05:44.920 my uh try to stay to the 45 minutes here we go most evolutionists will tell you and certainly
00:05:51.400 evolutionist psychologists will tell you the exact moment that they had their evolutionary epiphany that
00:05:57.240 they said oh this is something that i need to be paying attention to and you know perhaps use in my work
00:06:03.320 so in my case it was the first semester as a doctoral student at cornell i was taking a advanced
00:06:11.240 social psychology course with professor dennis reagan and about halfway through the semester
00:06:16.040 he assigned a book that truly changed certainly my professional life the book is titled homicide
00:06:22.760 which i highly recommend you all read it it's by two of the pioneers of evolutionary psychology husband
00:06:28.120 and wife team margo wilson and martin daly and what they did is they looked at patterns of criminality
00:06:36.440 via an evolutionary lens and they showed that there is unbelievably similar causation to many
00:06:43.400 patterns of criminality across time and across space so for example who do what do you think is the
00:06:51.160 biggest predictor of child abuse in a home i'll just take one or two possible answers because i i
00:06:57.960 i have to move on yes because you've read my work you're cheating well usually no one ever gives
00:07:07.080 that answer but you're exactly correct if there is a step parent in the house it's a 100 greater predictor
00:07:16.680 100 times greater predictor than the next predictor in terms of having child abuse now you could read
00:07:22.920 the social science literature and they've come up with 16 000 different explanations none of which
00:07:29.240 are all of which combined don't add up to the explanatory power of that singular phenomenon so when
00:07:35.960 i saw the explanatory power and the parsimony of the evolutionary lens i thought okay well i will now take
00:07:42.760 this evolutionary lens and apply it in the areas that i'm interested in and so i want to give you a few
00:07:48.760 examples of studies that i've done using the evolutionary lens because if hopefully i do end
00:07:54.520 up coming to uatx one of the courses that i hope to teach is a course on you know evolutionary theory
00:08:00.120 evolution in society so i want to give this certainly the students a flavor of what are the types of
00:08:05.160 things that i would study so this is a a paper that uh actually received a lot of attention with one of my
00:08:11.000 former graduate students so this is peacocking right the the peacock evolves this trait precisely because
00:08:18.920 it is an honest signal of his phenotypic you know his his quality of course human beings also engage
00:08:27.080 in peacocking and so we took this idea and we brought in male participants and had them drive an actual
00:08:35.240 porsche that we rented try to get a scientific granting agency to give you money for renting a
00:08:42.760 porsche for a weekend and convince them that it's truly for science well we did it and then they also
00:08:50.280 drove a you know beaten up old sedan and the key dependent measure was salivary assays because we then
00:08:57.880 wanted to measure their testosterone levels what would happen if you drive the fancy porsche or the
00:09:04.840 beaten up car in one of two environments either in downtown montreal where everyone can see you
00:09:10.440 driving the low status car high status car and or you're driving it in a semi-deserted highway
00:09:16.840 not surprising to anybody in this room when you put young men in the porsche their endocrinological
00:09:23.000 system blows up and so that would be an example of using a hormonal marker to study a phenomenon that
00:09:31.640 happens in in the animal literature but in the context of a consumer behavior
00:09:37.480 this is a study that we unfortunately have yet to publish but we started it many years ago
00:09:43.000 it also uses a car so these are imagine these are two dating profiles the only thing that's different
00:09:49.640 across the two dating profiles is what is my favorite possession in one version it's a fancy red porsche
00:09:56.760 and the other one sorry to anybody who owns a old kia it's an it's an old kia and then we ask the people
00:10:06.600 a whole bunch of things about this guy who of course doesn't change across the two conditions
00:10:13.160 i'm only going to talk about one of the dependent measures his height now if you want to see why
00:10:19.080 evolutionary psychology is so powerful guess what happens to this guy's height as a function of
00:10:26.760 whether it is women judging him or men judging him in the porsche condition so we call this actually the
00:10:34.520 status elongation effect and the status contraction effect when women see this guy in the porsche
00:10:44.360 he magically becomes taller this is why i have i'm trying to convince my wife that we need to buy a porsche
00:10:51.640 because i need a few more inches
00:10:55.560 on the other hand what do you think happens to men's perceptions of his height when they see him in this
00:11:03.000 thing he becomes shorter why because i am threatened not by another man who has
00:11:10.920 nicer shoulders than me but i'm threatened by a man who has higher status than me and so what do i do
00:11:18.040 i will then engage in intrasexual derogation when that happens so when i see a guy in a porsche
00:11:25.560 oh you know what he must be some little short guy he's trying to compensate so the exact same stimulus
00:11:32.360 results in completely perceptual bias in opposite directions depending on whether i'm male or female
00:11:40.680 you could have never hypothesized this stuff if you didn't understand the evolutionary dynamics
00:11:46.520 one more quick example uh this is a study we did also with hormones but in this case
00:11:53.080 with women's behavior and here what you're seeing this is called the homology meaning that the same
00:11:59.240 phenomenon has evolved across many species because of shared lineage so when female chimpanzees go into
00:12:06.280 estrus the way that they signal that they are sexually receptive is that they have an engorgement
00:12:11.240 and enlargement of their genitalia perhaps thankfully that's not how human females do it
00:12:17.320 but they do do it in other ways how do they do it as we found out in this really elaborate study that
00:12:23.480 we did where we tracked women's behavior across 35 days why 35 because the average length of a menstrual
00:12:29.720 cycle is 28 days so by covering 35 you're pretty much covering all the variants across women and we
00:12:35.800 found out that women will engage in much more vigorous sexual signaling when they are in the ovulatory phase
00:12:44.520 of their menstrual cycles okay so again you're taking an insight that you know from evolutionary biology
00:12:50.600 that you know from other animals and then you're applying it to the human context in modern settings and
00:12:56.280 so that's a lot of the academic research that i do is that one or two more quick things about
00:13:04.920 evolutionary psychology and then i'll move on to the parasitic mind this is a incredibly important slide
00:13:10.840 because it actually completely alters the way you've you you understand science much of science operates at the
00:13:20.280 proximate level proximate means understanding the how and the what of a phenomenon so most nobel
00:13:28.520 prizes that have ever been won have been won at the proximate level and i'll you'll see in a second
00:13:34.120 i'm going to give a concrete example the ultimate explanation of a phenomenon doesn't mean ultimate in
00:13:39.880 a superior sense it means ultimate in the darwinian why sense why did the phenomenon evolve to be of that
00:13:47.000 form so for any phenomenon involving biological agents if you only focus on the proximate causation
00:13:57.080 you only have part of the explanation if you explain both the proximate and ultimate you've given the
00:14:02.840 full explanation so take for example pregnancy sickness pregnancy sickness is something that is
00:14:09.800 universally true i mean different women will experience it to different extents there are a million
00:14:15.240 proximate questions i could ask about pregnancy sickness does a particular smell cause greater
00:14:21.960 severity of the symptoms in pregnancy sickness that's a how and what question the darwinian why why have
00:14:31.240 women evolved pregnancy sickness that turns out to be an unbelievable answer pregnancy sickness is so
00:14:38.200 predictable that you can set your watch to it it happens at a very specific time during organogenesis during
00:14:45.080 the first trimester of gestation and because organogenesis is such an important period where
00:14:53.240 the organs are forming in utero it's important that the mother not be exposed to food pathogens
00:15:01.160 teratogens that might wreak havoc to the organ formation therefore women are attracted to certain foods that reduce
00:15:12.040 pathogenic load pickles women are unattracted and become repulsed to other foods that might
00:15:19.560 might have high pathogenic load and then as the ultimate insurance policy in case you ingested something
00:15:26.280 that's not good for the baby you have the symptoms of nausea and throwing up right and then very
00:15:32.360 very magically once organogenesis ends boom pregnancy sickness finishes now you might say okay that sounds
00:15:40.280 great explanation but who cares well there's actually big who cares when you go see your obgyn and you
00:15:46.840 say i'm experiencing pregnancy sickness symptoms what he or she will do is the perfectly incorrect thing from an
00:15:54.840 evolutionary perspective why because since those symptoms evolved because they are adaptive you want
00:16:03.000 to experience those symptoms whereas when you take the pill it shuts that off well it turns out that the
00:16:09.480 more pregnancy sickness a woman experiences the better the trajectory of the gestation the less likely of a
00:16:16.680 a miscarriage so i've lectured about this in front of not only physicians but in front of obgyns and then
00:16:24.280 they'll come up to me and say professor sarva we never learned this in medical school well you didn't
00:16:29.640 because even in your medical school curriculum you were stuck in proximate world so imagine if now
00:16:35.480 we study many many phenomenon it could be politics it could be uh you know psychiatry it could be whatever you
00:16:41.720 want at both levels it opens up a complete new realm of epistemological discovery
00:16:52.920 one of the things that i often talk about is the consilience that is afforded via evolutionary
00:17:00.200 psychology uh consilience refers to unity of knowledge so i won't go through all of these here
00:17:05.160 but these are all different disciplines that have been darwinized many of which you wouldn't have thought
00:17:11.240 could be darwinized so i've mentioned a few of these today to several people here is an example of
00:17:16.600 one that you wouldn't have known literary darwinism is the application of darwinian theory to study
00:17:23.560 literature so this is now a joining of the natural sciences evolutionary biology with the humanities
00:17:30.280 literature the idea being that the reason why literature tickles our fancy the reason why we want to
00:17:36.600 read a beautiful story from 2000 years ago is because it is catering to a few basic universally
00:17:44.120 templates paternity uncertainty sibling rivalry parent offspring conflict romantic infidelity and so
00:17:51.960 on and so that's the stuff of literature so rather than studying literature via a marxist lens or a
00:17:59.000 feminist lens and so on study it through an evolutionary lens and you'll get completely
00:18:03.160 better and more accurate insights i'll just discuss one more just because it's kind of a cool one i don't
00:18:10.040 know where it is evolutionary architecture is a discipline that very few people know about most
00:18:16.760 architects are trained to minimize or maximize one of two metrics minimize the cost uh well in this case
00:18:23.800 also minimize say the time of delivery whereas evolutionary architecture uses different optimization metrics it says
00:18:31.720 how can we create architectural designs that cater to our biophilic instinct biophilia is love of nature
00:18:39.160 so you end up with completely different designs once you understand what is it that tickles our biophilic
00:18:46.840 fancy so i won't go through all of these but the reason i put it up is to say there really is an endless
00:18:54.760 number of disciplines that are waiting and begging to be enriched by the evolutionary lens all right
00:19:04.600 uh here i'm all i'm going to say about this is so the first time that i sort of had the idea of
00:19:12.360 writing the parasitic mind was very early in my career when i was trying to darwinize the social sciences in
00:19:20.520 general but the business school in particular and i thought it's very obvious how could you study
00:19:25.720 leadership or entrepreneurship or consumer psychology or economic behavior without ever invoking our
00:19:31.960 biological heritage don't our hormones affect our behavior when we're making decisions i mean how could
00:19:37.560 that be how could you go through an entire business curriculum without ever uttering the dreaded b word
00:19:43.560 word biology and so but i noticed that most of my academic colleagues thought that it was complete
00:19:51.640 nonsense that i'm doing all this biology and evolutionary psychology stuff and that's when i first had this
00:19:57.400 idea that how could these very sophisticated intelligent people be so parasitized by ideology that they
00:20:06.440 they they can't accept that the same mechanism that explains the behavior of every other species on
00:20:13.800 earth somehow doesn't explain the behavior of one species called homo sapiens and if they can afford
00:20:21.080 the possibility that it could explain human phenomena the human phenomena have to stop at the neck meaning
00:20:27.720 that yes use evolution to explain opposable thumbs but don't you dare use evolutionary theory to explain the
00:20:35.080 human mind that's crazy talk you must be a jewish nazi so that was originally when i had the idea that
00:20:44.680 things can go wrong in academia and then the next 30 years kind of amplified that which led to the
00:20:52.200 writing of the parasitic mind but before i do that since i was talking about uh uh ovulatory cycle and
00:21:00.600 menstruation earlier this is an actual symposium scientific symposium that was held at my home
00:21:09.720 university i'm currently at a michigan university but my home university is in montreal it was a one-day
00:21:16.360 symposium pushing for menstrual equity because menstruation is a human right what the hell does that mean
00:21:24.760 i mean i didn't know that until we held that symposium women were shackled with an inability to
00:21:31.720 menstruate but apparently we had to hold a symposium to promulgate the idea of menstrual rights and menstrual
00:21:39.560 equity of course you all know this one uh
00:21:46.360 until 15 minutes ago the 117 billion people that have ever existed on earth that's an actual estimate
00:21:54.360 we're able to fully navigate through the very tricky conundrum of who is male and who is female
00:22:01.480 but 15 minutes ago we lost that ability as a sexually reproducing species so much so that
00:22:08.520 our good friend here the latest addition to the u.s supreme court did not have the epistemological
00:22:15.880 confidence to clearly state what is a woman that's what a parasitized mind looks like which we'll get
00:22:23.480 into in a second this is an actual anesthesiologist with whom i had several interactions on twitter if you
00:22:33.320 want to have fun go follow me on twitter i take no prisoners
00:22:37.400 so this degenerate argued that she has a medical degree and she's a woman and there is a man
00:22:54.840 mansplaining her what menstruation is because i was arguing are you insane to argue that men can
00:23:03.560 menstruate you're a physician you're an anesthesiologist when you determine the doses of
00:23:10.520 anesthesia do you recognize this thing called male or female and if you just read her stuff it's it's
00:23:16.920 absolutely unbelievable this is a physician do you want her as your physician that's what happens with
00:23:22.040 parasitized minds now the reason i put up this specific example is because for many many years
00:23:28.040 when i would stand on top of the mountain screaming we have a problem people would say to me sure
00:23:33.960 professor saad this might happen in some esoteric humanities department but it's not going to go
00:23:39.400 further i go no no no it's coming for everyone because it escapes from the humanities department you
00:23:45.560 know what happens it becomes the prime minister of canada called justin trudeau
00:23:51.320 because he is a walking manifestation of every parasitic idea that i discuss in the parasitic mind
00:24:02.280 this is a the top anthropology society in the united states and canada canceled a session
00:24:12.760 by five female anthropologists and archaeologists who were arguing that it is insane when you
00:24:21.240 you're doing anthropological and archaeological work to get rid of the fixed binary called male or
00:24:28.760 female that was so contentious and it drew such ire in the 21st century that it was canceled that's
00:24:38.520 what parasitic minds look like so now let me really kind of drill down with some of the the stuff from
00:24:46.120 the parasitic mind how did i develop this idea of using the neuro parasitic framework to explain my
00:24:53.960 stuff well there are many types of pathogens that kill us that's been our biggest bane throughout our
00:25:00.120 evolutionary history there are some bacterium there are viruses there are fungi there are parasites but
00:25:05.480 of course i argue that there are ideological neuro parasites that serve the same purpose so in the
00:25:13.080 same way that i could be zombified by an actual brain worm i could be zombified by idea pathogens post-modernism
00:25:21.480 cultural relativism and so on i'll talk about that in a sec here's some examples of these parasitic stuff
00:25:27.960 and i'll i'll do one more on the other this is a parasitic wasp which when it stings the
00:25:34.760 uh spider it renders the spider zombified but fully alive it then carries it pulls it drags it into its burrow
00:25:47.240 it lays eggs on it and then as the eggs hatch they eat the in vivo uh spider uh alive well think of
00:25:59.960 political correctness akin to the spider wasp sting quietly and merrily you walk into the abyss of
00:26:07.800 infinite lunacy saying yeah of course men too can menstruate absolutely right here's another one
00:26:14.040 toxoplasma gandhi which can by the way infect human beings but the classic example is when toxoplasma gandhi
00:26:20.680 uh parasitizes the mind of a mouse the mouse loses loses its very adaptive fear of cats and it actually
00:26:30.360 becomes attracted to the sexually attracted to the cats uh to the cat's urine that's not a very good
00:26:37.160 attraction to have if you're a mouse but it serves the purpose of the parasite here is a parasite that
00:26:44.280 afflicts ungulates elk moose deer when they're parasitized by it they start going around and circle
00:26:50.600 kind of bobbing their heads even when the looming predators come they can't extricate themselves
00:26:56.200 from that repetitive behavior they don't invoke their flight mechanism let's move on to one more
00:27:02.360 example this is a wood cricket it hates water and here we've got a hair worm that when it parasitizes
00:27:12.360 the wood cricket the wood cricket merrily jumps into water committing suicide in the service of the
00:27:19.560 parasite why because the parasite needs it to go into water so it can complete its reproductive cycle
00:27:26.840 so what are human forms of parasites queers for palestine
00:27:36.280 they are the beautiful wood cricket jumping into that water right if if i present myself to the world
00:27:45.800 through my queer identity as the first presentation of who i am do i prefer to be in tel aviv which is one of
00:27:54.600 the most queer friendly cities in the world or do i want to put my support behind gaza which has a very
00:28:04.440 effective 100 effective gravity-based conversion therapy program we throw you head first off a building and then
00:28:13.560 that cures you of your queerness that's what a wood cricket looks like and then in this case we've got
00:28:21.960 jewish anna epstein at boston university who is so much more progressive than all of you degenerates
00:28:29.560 that she was caught on camera taking off the posters of the uh kidnapped israeli children
00:28:41.720 because she transcends that kind of tribal stuff she's on the side of the good guys hamas who had
00:28:47.480 she been at that nova film festival it would have turned out badly for anna epstein but she's progressive
00:28:54.280 she knows better this is straight this is an actual quote from the parasitic mind i mean you could read
00:29:04.040 it but i'll just instead say it tal nitsan jewish tal nitsan was a doctoral student at hebrew university
00:29:12.600 who was working on a project to identify the rampant rape of palestinian women by israeli idf
00:29:23.880 soldiers she conducted her research and she found out that there wasn't a single documented case of
00:29:31.480 rape by the idf on palestinian women so if you're a honest academic then incoming information came in
00:29:40.040 my hypothesis seems to have been refuted okay well no it didn't refute her hypothesis
00:29:46.360 it turns out that the fact that the idf soldiers did not rape a single palestinian woman
00:29:56.440 demonstrate the extents the extent to which they other the palestinian women that the palestinian
00:30:04.120 women are not sufficiently human that they are worthy of rape so had the idf soldiers raped the
00:30:12.360 women they would have been pigs but if the idf soldiers don't rape any women they're also pigs so
00:30:20.280 all roads lead to my hypothesis being supported which is the idf are evil zionist pigs and and she's
00:30:29.000 parasitized of course because it's the same idf soldiers who don't rape the palestinian women
00:30:34.920 that are protecting her so that she can publish this
00:30:42.040 this guy is super progressive and empathetic
00:30:46.760 he's very touching let me tell you why he's norwegian guy who presents himself to the world as a
00:30:53.080 male feminist and anti-racist ally that's the quote right here he was raped and sodomized by a noble
00:31:01.320 somali immigrant as as it goes in norway you don't get much of a sentence uh for rape you know very
00:31:10.280 very light sentence i think maybe he got a year something whatever it was when he came out of
00:31:16.840 detention this guy was racked with existential guilt because his sodomizer was now going to be
00:31:27.000 potentially deported to somalia where he wouldn't be able to maximally flourish and so he was guilty
00:31:37.160 that his rapist was now going to have a bad life in somalia that's not an emotional system that we
00:31:43.640 have evolved this is what happens when you have suicidal empathy and i'll come to that in a sec
00:31:49.640 so these are some of the idea pathogens that i discuss in uh the parasitic mind i will spend a bit
00:31:55.800 of time talking about a few of these i'll talk about post-modernism and a few others
00:32:02.440 so here you there's one of them is uh identity politics right now yes donald trump is coming to
00:32:12.360 office here he's eradicating all the die stuff i call it die rather than dei because die is where
00:32:20.200 everything goes to die uh and circ is the top it's the national science and engineering research
00:32:29.000 council think of it as like the nsf of canada university of waterloo is akin to let's say caltech
00:32:37.640 or mit it's very well known in canada for its engineering and computer science departments
00:32:43.480 so the school of computer science at a top computer science and engineering school in canada
00:32:52.040 puts out a call for two chaired professorship but these are the highest chaired professors professors
00:32:59.000 because they are endowed by the government this is verbatim this is not me using my satire so this
00:33:06.120 is verbatim position one in all areas of artificial intelligence and we know how big artificial
00:33:12.920 intelligence is is getting but now watch the types of uh qualities that i'm looking in my professor of
00:33:21.480 artificial intelligence the call is open only to qualified individuals who self-identify as women
00:33:28.760 transgender gender fluid non-binary or two-spirit i have a mathematics and computer science degree
00:33:37.240 and i feel so ashamed that when i learned analysis of algorithms and computational theory
00:33:43.320 that i didn't incorporate the unique knowledge of nine non-binary computer scientists and the second
00:33:50.520 one it's based on race you have to be either racialized or you have to identify as being racialized
00:33:56.360 and so on this is at a top canadian university so maybe you dodged the bullet in the u.s with
00:34:02.680 having donald trump we're still heavily mired in it this is at my home university the number one item
00:34:14.360 on the five-year strategic plan is to indigenize and decolonize the entire curriculum you're teaching
00:34:24.200 shakespeare decolonize indigenize you're teaching neuroscience decolonize indigenize that's at a major
00:34:33.160 45 000 student research university here is an example of a project that received a lot of funding
00:34:41.800 to study optics and light but to study it by decolonizing it because all those physicists who were not
00:34:52.360 informed by indigenous knowledge didn't really make a breakthrough this is happening at every canadian
00:34:58.040 university you could think of this example is one that maybe a few of you have heard me mention
00:35:06.760 and if so apologies but it's still worth hearing it in person and for the rest of you buckle up it's a fun one
00:35:12.440 in 2002 one of my doctoral students had just defended his doctoral dissertation and so we were heading
00:35:22.360 out for a celebratory dinner myself my wife him and he was bringing a date so a few hours before we were
00:35:31.480 meeting at the restaurant he calls me and i kind of pick up he's maybe being a bit nervous on the phone he
00:35:37.880 was oh i just wanted to give you a heads up that the the lady that i'm bringing to the to the dinner
00:35:43.480 as a graduate student in post-modernism women's studies and cultural anthropology to which i answered
00:35:50.200 ah the holy trinity of bullshit
00:35:56.280 i said oh no no i got you i'm going to be on my best behavior this is your night mom's the word you don't
00:36:03.560 get a peep out of me complete bullshit because i'm definitely going to not speak so at one point i
00:36:09.960 turned to the lady in question but very politely very jovially i said oh i i hear you're a post-modernist
00:36:16.600 there are no universal truths other than the one universal truth that there are no universal truths
00:36:21.800 he said yes no universal truth i said do you mind if i offer what i think is a universal truth and then
00:36:27.720 we can discuss it how i might be airing she said yes and you'll see in a second why i've picked
00:36:33.000 these two photos i said is it not true that for homo sapiens since time immemorial women bear
00:36:42.600 children this is way before trans craze this is 2002 she looks at me scoffs at my imbecility and
00:36:51.400 simple mind says no that's not true said it's not true that only women bear children how is that
00:36:56.840 she goes well there is a japanese tribe of some japanese island whereby within their mythological
00:37:04.280 folkloric men it is the men who bear children so by you restricting it to the materialistic band
00:37:11.240 that's how you know you keep us barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen so after i recovered from the
00:37:17.960 mini stroke i had listening to that stuff i said maybe it's too contentious for me to
00:37:25.880 say that only women bear children can i give another example that might be a bit less poisonous
00:37:30.440 uh what if i tell you that since time immemorial sailors have relied on the cosmological premise that
00:37:38.440 the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and here she used a variant of postmodernism called
00:37:45.160 deconstructionism jacques derrida language creates reality she said well what do you mean by east and west
00:37:51.800 and what do you mean by the sun that which you call the sun i might call dancing hyena
00:37:59.320 i said well fine the dancing hyena rises in the east and sets in the west she said i don't play those
00:38:04.680 label games why why did i why do i repeatedly give this example because it perfectly captures
00:38:12.680 that ethos if we can call it that if a grown adult who's doing a graduate degree at one of the leading
00:38:20.760 universities and that university is it was in montreal you can guess which one it is it's it's called the
00:38:27.160 harvard of the north and we can't agree on shared meaning of women bear children there is east and
00:38:34.920 west and the sun rises and sets it's intellectual terrorism it serves no purpose it's a dead end
00:38:44.440 this is another uh idea pathogen it social constructivism is everything is a social
00:38:50.600 construction there are no evolutionary imperatives and biophobia is the fear of using biology to
00:38:55.880 explain human affairs as i alluded to earlier this is what leads to actual campaigns where because
00:39:03.640 the company is so progressive they show little boys playing with dolls and little girls playing with
00:39:09.400 guns and so what i'm going to do next it's actually a really important slide i'm going to show you how
00:39:14.360 you dismantle that kind of nonsense this is something that i discussed in chapter seven of the parasitic mind
00:39:20.040 where i'm discussing how to seek truth how can i build an argument that makes it unassailable
00:39:27.720 against all detractors so i'm trying to demonstrate this that there is a sex-specific
00:39:34.760 biological route to toy preferences how can i convince you of that well what i'm going to do
00:39:40.680 is i'm going to drown you in so much converging evidence from many different distinct lines of evidence
00:39:48.920 so that it becomes unassailable so i can get you data and from developmental psychology
00:39:56.040 where children by definition are too young to yet be socialized they already exhibit those
00:40:01.960 sex-specific toy preferences if i stopped right there i've already destroyed the social constructivist
00:40:08.440 argument but i'm not going to stop there then i can get you data from other species vervet monkeys
00:40:14.360 rhesus monkeys and chimpanzees showing you that they exhibit the same sex-specific toy preferences
00:40:20.280 i can get you data from pediatric endocrinology where little girls who suffer from congenital adrenal
00:40:27.960 hyperplasia which is a endocrinological disorder that max masculinizes the behavior of little girls
00:40:36.760 those little girls have the reversal of their toy preferences they have toy preferences that are
00:40:41.640 akin to those of boys i can get you data from ancient greece and ancient rome where you look at
00:40:49.560 funerary monuments where little children are shown depicted in the exact same sex specific toys that
00:40:56.040 we play with today i can get you data from non-western cultures sub-saharan africa where they play with the
00:41:03.160 exact same sex specific toys so you see what i'm doing across species across time periods across methodology and
00:41:10.600 so on i am triangulating to demonstrate that this is a veridical statement so for the students who are
00:41:17.480 here and even the professors who are here this is an epistemological tool that's like a nuclear bomb
00:41:24.520 that that's what allows me to go into very hostile environments but i am equipped and armed with the
00:41:31.720 requisite nomological networks well good luck to you if you want to debate me but on the other hand if i don't
00:41:38.680 know what i'm talking about if i haven't built the requisite nomological network and you ask me a
00:41:43.560 question i won't wing it i'll tell you that's a great question i don't know enough about it right
00:41:47.800 so that's what allows me to never be caught notwithstanding the number of appearances that i do and so on
00:41:56.360 ostrich parasitic syndrome is something that i discuss in chapter six of the parasitic mind it refers to a
00:42:04.040 orgiastic need to deny reality irrespective of the amount of evidence that i've offered you
00:42:11.560 so here so now by the way the ostrich doesn't literally do that but it has become a metaphor for
00:42:17.880 wishing to deny reality yes so this number here
00:42:24.760 almost 47 000 there have been nearly 47 000 islamic terror attacks in nearly 70 countries since 9 11 alone
00:42:41.160 yes and when they commit that terror act they tell you exactly why they're doing it but the western
00:42:49.960 bien pensant the good thinkers the politically correct folks told us no no no don't believe
00:42:56.920 when the terrorists tell you why they committed the 47 000 here are some of the other causes it turns out
00:43:05.640 that if you play video games that can turn you into a islamic terrorist which is making me a bit worried
00:43:13.320 because my son now is playing a lot of video games he just had his bar mitzvah but i'm thinking that he's
00:43:19.240 very close to joining isis it turns out also as the super smart bowtied bill nye explained to us that
00:43:30.200 the bataklan attack in paris where they screamed allahu akbar and gave incantations of the specific
00:43:36.520 quranic verses that lead to them butchering everybody was very conceivably due to climate change
00:43:42.600 okay it turns out also that the guys who did the attack in san bernardino a few years ago it was due to
00:43:51.080 beard bullying that's why i keep my beard very trim because i don't want to be beard bullied because then
00:43:57.960 that could send me to rakka to throw the gays off rooftops and it goes on and on and on here's another one
00:44:05.720 lack of adequate exposure to art so some of the uh belgian terrorists the argument was i mean look if
00:44:13.240 you're not exposed to enough klimt and chagall would it most of us go out and kill random people
00:44:19.720 so imagine the level of intellectual degeneracy but these are professors mostly not bill nye but a lot of
00:44:26.760 other ones that the the willingness that you're willing to go through and your suicidal empathy to not
00:44:34.120 say things as they are don't be that guy
00:44:39.720 let me just briefly mention i won't get into all this because i want to
00:44:43.000 try to stick to the 45 minutes my next book let me briefly tell you kind of the background to it
00:44:50.600 we are both as i explained to the students earlier in our meeting we are both of course
00:44:54.440 a thinking and a feeling animal it's not that we're one or the other that the challenge is to know when
00:44:59.560 to invoke the right system at the right time right so the parasitic mind was what was a treatise on
00:45:06.920 what happens to our cognitive system when it is parasitized suicidal empathy which is my next book is
00:45:14.280 what happens to our emotional system when it is parasitized so once you've explained both of these things
00:45:21.240 then you've fully explained the zombification phenomenon and so what i get into in the book
00:45:27.240 which i'm currently writing uh feverishly because uh actually i'm only supposed to remit the first draft
00:45:36.360 in march 2026 so i had plenty of time but when elon musk keeps writing you saying we need this book asap
00:45:47.400 you kind of increase the speed at which you're writing so hopefully i can uh deliver it in your
00:45:53.880 beautiful hands sooner than then and so what i basically do in this in this book is i argue that
00:45:59.640 look empathy is a perfectly adaptive emotion that's fine we are a social species and we've evolved
00:46:07.000 positive emotions because they contribute to our sociality so it's not as though this is a treatise
00:46:13.240 against empathy but like anything in life like aristotle explained to us at the right place to
00:46:20.120 the right people at the right amount so suicidal empathy is what happens when the empathy module
00:46:28.360 misfires it becomes misguided it targets the wrong people it becomes hyperactive and so on guatemalan
00:46:36.360 illegal immigrants are more important than american vets nobody is saying that guatemalan
00:46:42.040 people should not have a right to live lives uh you know flourishing lives but that doesn't mean that
00:46:48.040 we've evolved the emotional calculus to care more about them than our children right i've evolved the
00:46:55.240 emotional calculus that i'm much more likely to jump to save my biological children if there's a truck
00:47:02.120 hurling at them than i am to save a random person that doesn't make me callous i'd like to also save
00:47:07.320 the random children but that's not how evolution works and so what suicidal empathy does is it goes
00:47:13.080 through all of the craziness that we're seeing in the west and argue that the great majority of it is
00:47:20.520 due to this hyper activation activation of of empathy and so stay tuned for that one and and i'm i'm actually
00:47:28.760 astonished because the the kind of viral that i've gotten from like now i can literally go on social
00:47:36.520 media and i will see the term suicidal empathy and my explanations in like 40 languages and the book
00:47:42.520 nobody's ever read the book yet so it's it looks promising so i'm almost done and i think i'm going to
00:47:50.680 stay true to the 45 minutes so how do we
00:47:57.320 save our universities i have 12 items here number one pursue knowledge unencumbered by ideological
00:48:08.040 activism no knowledge is forbidden if gathered objectively using the scientific method forbidden
00:48:13.400 knowledge is a very very dangerous thing because the pursuit of truth should be deontological not
00:48:19.560 consequentialist right so it shouldn't be i will pursue knowledge as long as it doesn't hurt someone's
00:48:26.040 feeling no if i pursue it in an unbiased manner if i am a honest adherent to the scientific method
00:48:33.880 so be it right freedom of speech freedom of inquiry and the pursuit of truth are deontological
00:48:40.040 principles for those of you who don't know the term deontological is an absolute statement right it is
00:48:45.560 never okay to lie would be deontological statement a consequentialist statement would be it is okay to
00:48:51.960 lie if i wish to spare someone's feelings right and so i often tell people if you wish to have a
00:48:58.680 successful long-standing marriage if you hear the following question put on your consequentialist hat
00:49:05.880 do i look fat in those jeans this is an example where using a consequentialist ethic makes perfect
00:49:13.960 sense for many things we will put on a consequentialist hat and it perfectly makes sense but not for freedom
00:49:20.600 of speech not for freedom of inquiry not for the pursuit of truth you don't modulate on that
00:49:28.440 of course no more identity politics and victimology and so on now now to some extent you guys are kind of
00:49:34.920 getting out of getting out of that nightmare but uh those those parasites are still there those ideological
00:49:41.400 parasites no more coddling of the culture of offense and perpetual victimhood and so on
00:49:49.320 just to show you here as relating to this point this is from evolutionary medicine so in evolutionary
00:49:57.400 medicine there is the principle of the hygiene hypothesis the hygiene hypothesis is what explains
00:50:04.840 why kids who grow up in allergen rich environments end up having fewer autoimmune disorders like let's
00:50:15.400 say asthma why because your immune system requires exposure to those allergens in order to maximally
00:50:24.600 trigger it so that it can respond optimally so if you have parents who are both obsessive compulsive
00:50:33.080 who sterilize everything that increases your chances for asthma why am i saying this because apply this
00:50:40.040 mechanism now instead of clearing all allergens clearing this university from opposing ideas well then you're
00:50:47.880 doing a disservice to my mind because my mind evolved to be exposed to allergens in this case opposing
00:50:55.240 ideas that makes me a better debater to hear your stuff so i can hone my arguments now of course i don't need
00:51:00.600 to tell this to the people in this room the existence of the university is based on the recognition of what
00:51:06.040 i'm saying here but of course not at the 99.9 percent of other universities
00:51:13.000 a just society is rooted in the ethos of a meritocracy we are not social ants i mentioned this earlier in
00:51:19.080 one of my meetings uh eo wilson who is a uh entomologist at harvard recently passed away uh ants
00:51:29.640 are communistic right there is a reproductive queen and then all the other ants are indistinguishable
00:51:35.400 worker ants or warrior ants so it makes sense for communism to exist an equality of outcomes to exist for
00:51:41.640 ants when he was asked professor wilson what do you think about uh communism socialism his answer
00:51:49.320 was one of the most beautiful i've ever heard great idea wrong species meaning that human nature
00:51:56.280 does not afford the possibility for flourishing under communism because we are not social ants
00:52:03.560 we need meritocracy promote an ethos of intellectual and political diversity of course we all know this
00:52:09.880 here's a slide i don't know if some of you have seen this i discussed this in the parasitic mind
00:52:15.240 this is the ratio of democrat to republican professors as a function of the discipline now even the best
00:52:25.000 least lopsided field is 1.6 to 1. now in other areas of science that would be a huge effect right
00:52:34.120 because if you have for example an odds ratio of 1.2 to 1 that means it's 20 percent more that
00:52:39.720 the efficacy of that drug is high so the least lopsided would be astoundingly high statistically
00:52:47.880 significant effect but now look as we get into the activist field 133 to 1 89 to 0 whatever it is
00:52:56.920 now you are really cheating the students in this case because there are some things where your
00:53:01.880 political orientation doesn't matter the theory of evolution is the theory of evolution whether you're
00:53:06.040 democrat or republican but if we want to discuss the pros and cons of the death penalty there are
00:53:11.880 really compelling arguments on both sides of the aisle and i as a student want to hear about it and so
00:53:17.240 by having this kind of lopsidedness you are literally cheating the minds of all of those students
00:53:24.120 all ideas beliefs ideologies are open to criticism debate mocking yes mocking ridicule satire nothing is
00:53:35.960 sacrosanct
00:53:41.080 this is the last slide number eight promote an ethos of interdisciplinarity consilience and
00:53:46.360 methodological pluralism i hinted at that earlier of course this this university is very much
00:53:52.840 founded on an ethos of interdisciplinary consilience as i mentioned earlier is about unity of knowledge
00:53:57.880 all of the big breakthroughs in science always happen at the intersection of disciplines because
00:54:04.760 typically the problem is so big and otherwise intractable that if you don't have expertise in
00:54:09.800 many areas you won't be able to crack it so yes teach people to be specialists but also teach them to be
00:54:16.040 big synthetic thinkers that's also very important encourage bold thinking academia should be about
00:54:23.880 the forming of intellectual navy seals and not bean counters uh i'm sorry to say i know that there are
00:54:32.040 colleagues here but which of course it doesn't apply to you i i often joke that i have discovered a new
00:54:37.400 subspecies of human they're called the invertebrate castrati and they're also called professors because they
00:54:44.600 have no spine and they have no testicular fortitude that's and i i apply that to the women too because
00:54:51.720 as we know some women do have testicles so so you want intellectual navy seals that doesn't mean you're
00:55:02.360 impolite that doesn't mean you're acerbic that you're cantankerous it but it means that let's get
00:55:09.720 into the ring and let's debate ideas that's what i'm here for that's what i signed up for i'm an
00:55:13.880 intellectual i want to discuss ideas and that's what we should be teaching our students strike
00:55:19.080 the right balance between specialization and generalization now these are not related to
00:55:24.360 parasitic stuff but i thought they were really relevant uh remove the stifling bureaucracies in
00:55:29.640 academia implement something akin to doge within institutions when i now teach courses where i do
00:55:36.360 do research projects in classrooms we have to go through ethical clearance as if we were
00:55:43.720 you know splitting the atom that doesn't make sense you don't need that kind of i will teach you the
00:55:49.960 ethical requirements in the course and i'll clear them but now apparently there needs to be a third
00:55:54.840 party to clear that and so it only gets more burdensome innovation is uh universities is where
00:56:01.480 innovation typically goes to die and then finally science reason logic and a commitment to evidence
00:56:07.800 based thinking trump ideology hurt feelings and fashionable anti-science full intellectual gibberish
00:56:15.160 thank you very much morgan how about
00:56:30.040 okay here we go thank you very much for the presentation the biggest example of a mind being
00:56:39.080 parasitized live that i've seen over the past several years um has been sam harris uh don't don't get me
00:56:47.000 going on i remember following him years ago and and being kind of i had a high respect for him uh my
00:56:56.280 family was was pretty entranced by his ideas and what he said um and over the past couple of years has kind
00:57:01.080 of fallen off a cliff yeah how do you prevent yourself from becoming like sam harris uh so just for for
00:57:11.160 those of you who don't know sam harris was one of the four horsemen of atheism along with christopher
00:57:19.160 hitchens who's a you know big intellectual uh richard dawkins uh daniel dennett who's an evolutionary
00:57:25.560 philosopher and sam because sam had written some books that were sort of anti-religion so on
00:57:30.920 and uh in the past 99 of what sam would have said i would have agreed with and i actually faced a
00:57:38.840 a bit of i'm sharing some personal stuff here i shared i i faced a bit of a personal conundrum
00:57:44.920 because as he became truly the exemplar of trump derangement syndrome but at a level that's almost
00:57:50.840 impossible to emulate i was torn because i know sam you know he invited me on a show we've had dinner
00:57:58.200 together i know i would say he's a friend but i know him and my middle eastern heritage required
00:58:05.240 me to be a bit more gentle in in you know in in dealing with his nonsense because i knew him and so
00:58:12.920 on but then i started feeling that if i gave him a full pass i would be inauthentic to truth and so after
00:58:22.040 biting my tongue for about four years i decided to come after him in a jocular manner he didn't like
00:58:28.440 it he blocked me whatever and then i said okay all bets are off and then i went after him i don't know
00:58:34.360 if there's a singular way to not become sam harris but elon musk said in a tweet he goes you know sam there is
00:58:43.160 too much meditation that can happen so maybe the lesson i'm being a bit facetious is uh it's an
00:58:52.280 inverted u-shape of meditation too little is not good maybe too much is not good find the sweet spot
00:58:58.280 as aristotle told us thank you one quick follow-up should we invade canada and buy greenland
00:59:03.720 so i put out a tweet where i tagged donald trump and i said dear uh donald trump uh please can you
00:59:12.040 invade canada you won't need more than four to six soldiers hold on a hundred people wrote stuff to
00:59:21.800 my university that i be fired because i had engaged in sedition and treason imagine being so humorless
00:59:33.160 as to use that as the launching pad to get me fired always maintain humor thank you very much
00:59:41.640 thank you cheers all right um thank you for the talk you talked a lot about how a parasite will
00:59:49.080 take some aspect of its host and then use that to derive some benefit you talked a lot about how
00:59:54.360 the bad parts of that like the the intellectual parasites that take rationality but not necessarily
00:59:59.640 about what they gain in return or what the person who has this parasite um robin hansen thinks of
01:00:05.000 this as sort of like a luxury belief that provides some sort of selection uh and then there's also
01:00:11.240 what's it uh okay i blanked on it or oh no uh mark andreason thinks of it as sort of like a religious
01:00:16.840 impulse that gets fulfilled how do you think of the evolutionary benefit a parasite gets so i'm not
01:00:22.920 sure that i can offer an evolutionary explanation for these ideological parasites although if if pressed
01:00:29.080 i probably could but i'll offer maybe approximate explanation so i argue that these ideological parasites
01:00:37.160 uh achieve two things number one they free us from the pesky shackles of reality right and that could
01:00:45.560 be very liberating so for example i don't know if i mentioned to somebody in this meeting social
01:00:50.280 constructivism is very liberating because it basically says we are all born tabula rasa and it's only the
01:00:56.840 specific schedule of reinforcement of socialization that makes me become leonel mussy or michael jordan or
01:01:03.080 albert einstein well if i'm a parent i want to sign up for that ideological parasite because i don't
01:01:08.760 want to believe that my son might be height constrained that he may not be the next nba star
01:01:16.200 so maybe if i hug him enough or maybe not hug him too much he could be the next michael jordan so
01:01:21.560 that's a very compelling parasite for me to hold right so that's one the second thing is that all of
01:01:29.240 these ideological parasites start off with a noble cause which then metamorphosizes into nonsense into
01:01:37.480 the in the service of that cause so for example equity feminism is a great idea it says that men and
01:01:43.400 women should be treated equally under the law but then radical feminists come along and say that's
01:01:47.320 not enough we now have to promulgate the idea that men and women are indistinguishable from each other
01:01:52.520 in order to squash the patriarchy so it starts off as a noble goal that then sinks into the abyss of
01:01:59.640 infinite lunacy so those would be the two arguments in terms of the benefits that are derived from these
01:02:04.600 ideological parasites hi professor saad hi there so it seems that our current era were overtaken by
01:02:11.080 parasites and it seems unimaginable that there could be an era in which this was not the case are there
01:02:17.400 examples of times when people are more resistant to parasites and if so how does that happen so i think
01:02:25.080 i mentioned in our in our student meeting that the capacity for the human mind to be parasitized
01:02:33.720 is an indelible part of the architecture of the human mind so so as i mentioned the example and i'll just
01:02:40.120 repeat it here there was a time 300 years ago where in salem massachusetts it was a very very good idea
01:02:47.800 if you thought that your neighbor was a witch to throw her in water and if she swam she was a witch
01:02:52.280 and if she drowned she wasn't a witch and people genuinely believe that and organize their lives around
01:02:57.560 that parasitic idea but then we grew out of that one so i don't think on a theoretical level i could think
01:03:06.440 of a time period or an ecosystem where all inhabitants within that ecosystem were magically free of
01:03:14.680 parasitic ideas no that is an indelible part of the human mind what is unique to this period are the
01:03:21.800 specific idea parasites post-modernism did not exist in the salem witch hunts cultural relativism didn't so
01:03:29.160 what's unique is the specific cocktail of these parasitic ideas that have destroyed our edifices of reason
01:03:36.440 thank you thank you first why wasn't your car study in 2012 published or finished and second what does
01:03:45.320 owning the liberals actually accomplish
01:03:50.200 but you you think that i'm pursuing the owning the liberals based on your twitter account yes yeah
01:03:56.440 you need to read it more carefully uh i own the truth i defend the truth to the extent that liberals are
01:04:09.080 espousing and promulgating ideas that are nonsensical i go after them i live in the university ecosystem
01:04:16.520 each of these parasitic ideas stem from academia academia is almost exclusively run by liberals and
01:04:24.520 progressives hence i go after them so i don't own the liberals i attack stupid ideas which in my case
01:04:33.480 involve attacking leftist ideas that doesn't mean that people on the right can't be parasitized so for
01:04:40.760 example when it comes to evolution just the theory of evolution it is the right that usually gets angry
01:04:49.080 about evolution but when it comes to the application of evolution to the human mind it is the left that
01:04:55.960 doesn't like that idea so there is nothing inherent about why leftists or people on the right are more
01:05:04.120 or less likely but the specific parasites that i'm talking about are all leftist nonsense okay thank you
01:05:10.920 thank you thank you for your remarks um i hope ben crocker doesn't get mad at me for this question
01:05:17.480 i've heard you speak elsewhere about the evolutionary concept of a sneaky fucker yes um can you tell us
01:05:23.080 what this is how they might be identified and how they might be dealt with yes in a small community of 87
01:05:28.840 students right so so the the the theory of the sneaky fucker is a zoological theory that comes out of
01:05:39.880 uh 1970s zoology the formal term although literally sneaky fucker is used the formal term is kleptogamy
01:05:52.200 which is the stealing of mating opportunities so this is what what happens is for example you have a
01:05:58.920 species of fish where there are two phenotypes of males there is a typical male that looks like a
01:06:06.360 male fish there is another male fish that actually mimics female morphology so by by tricking the male
01:06:18.120 guardian into thinking that this one is a female he lets him go through and then he sneakily copulates
01:06:27.320 with all the females so that theory existed in the 1970s so what i did my contribution to that literature
01:06:35.640 is i argued that male feminists are pursuing a sneaky fucker strategy right i am very kind i wear a
01:06:45.640 i cry when the tree gets oh sorry right i'm i'm very empathetic when i get into my car and i turn on the
01:06:54.920 thing i start crying because i'm raping mother earth with the evil juice of gas right so so all of those
01:07:02.680 things makes me really empathetic less threatening maybe i can get close to linda over here so that
01:07:08.040 she could think i'm not threatening and then hopefully good things happen and so that's the theory thank
01:07:13.480 you thank you
01:07:21.320 when you talk about the 117 billion people who have all held that a man is one thing a woman is something
01:07:28.280 else and give that as a reason why it's sort of absurd for us to question that idea doesn't that
01:07:33.480 seem kind of conforming and anti-free thought to say that just because something has been considered
01:07:39.000 true that it can't now be considered otherwise i mean if your standard for questioning things
01:07:46.760 is whether male female reality exists in a sexually reproducing species maybe you're questioning a bit too
01:07:53.640 much right so in other words no one is saying question whatever you want but 117 billion people
01:08:01.560 have been able to navigate through that conundrum very successfully so for example when i chose to
01:08:07.720 start a family with my wife did i guess that she's a woman and it just turned out good things happen and we
01:08:14.760 had children what about your parents what about the hundred say so that we need to question no you don't
01:08:19.560 question that you don't question that any more than jumping off the empire state building would be
01:08:26.120 something that an open-minded person would do to question gravity so this would be different than
01:08:32.920 say when we used to think that the earth was the center of the universe and then they criticized
01:08:37.880 galileo for claiming that because that's something that they guessed yes whereas we have empirical evidence
01:08:42.680 uh so to your point it is true that in science all truths are provisional meaning that it is true
01:08:51.560 that you have to have the epistemic humility to say what is true today if incoming evidence comes in
01:08:57.960 that falsifies it so be it so you're absolutely right it's not revealed truths as you would have
01:09:03.080 in religion so yes be epistemologically humble but i don't think that that would apply to questioning
01:09:10.760 whether it's a it's we're being too conservative in thinking we know what male or female is it
01:09:17.320 literally is the definitional characteristic of a sexually reproducing species so we need to quickly
01:09:23.720 go tell charles darwin that he was a buffoon and that his sexual selection theory was completely
01:09:29.080 wrong-headed because we need to question what's male or female thank you thank you sir
01:09:35.960 thank you for your wonderful insights i really appreciate you coming here
01:09:38.600 my mom's a mcgill grad so i'm very familiar with canada ah i'm curious how does parenting fit
01:09:46.120 into this whole situation which situation you mean in terms of what you do with your children to try
01:09:51.960 to inoculate them and so on how does parenting stem into the parasitic mind so i don't know if what
01:09:58.760 i'm going to answer speaks to what you're asking i would say you have to be a present parent so for
01:10:04.840 example having me as their father has served as a good mind vaccine for my children right
01:10:12.600 but not only that when my daughter or son would come home from elementary school and there was some
01:10:19.240 insane thing that was said in their class i would write an email politely like i wasn't being a root but
01:10:26.360 very polite email i wasn't pulling rank or anything i'd say please explain this right and so i think
01:10:32.360 you just have to be present and make you know speak to your children and and then good things happen
01:10:37.640 i mean my i truly believe that my children are impervious to all this nonsense now yes it's because
01:10:45.080 they're my children but uh because i i engage them i'm constant i don't like to i've never baby talked my
01:10:52.520 children i'm very very loving to them i'm very uh nurturing but i never do the cootsie cootsie i mean i i've
01:11:00.760 walked with my nine-year-old child then he's 13 now and we talk about libertarianism and actually i
01:11:08.520 remember the exact conversation uh i was crossing a street and there was a young cop cadet that was
01:11:15.480 standing there giving out tickets for people who crossed other than when it's the thing says that you're
01:11:24.600 allowed to cross so at the time so this would be three four years ago so then i would be 57 years old
01:11:30.440 so i was 57 years old i had gone through the lebanese civil war but i didn't have the cognitive acuity
01:11:37.720 to look in a residential neighborhood on a one-way street oh are there any cars coming no i've got the
01:11:45.320 freedom to be able to cross the street so i had because otherwise i would get a 90 ticket for jaywalking
01:11:51.800 and that launched me into a 20-minute lecture on intrusion of government he was nine so i think
01:11:58.600 that the way you handle that those issues is you engage your children don't treat them like little
01:12:03.480 idiots they're they're they're hungry to have knowledge thank you cheers hello thank you for your
01:12:12.120 time and a big fan of your work thank you sir um i was wondering you sort of pointed out some of the
01:12:18.120 negative things not to do in creating university if you were to create a university based on your
01:12:23.400 experience and your research both in academia and on evolution how do you create systems to draw out
01:12:29.800 excellence and to really create an environment conducive to producing great work it's a big
01:12:35.960 question that would require i mean off the top of my head i would say encourage bold thinking a lot of
01:12:42.680 uh academic so i'm going to answer it from the academic perspective but i can also answer it from
01:12:48.520 a student perspective uh a lot of academics play the game of publication right so it's i learn a
01:12:56.840 methodology i'm very good at it i develop economies of scale within that literature that allows me to pump
01:13:04.920 out 74 papers that no one will read that no one will care about that no one will cite but i will have
01:13:12.200 a good cv that will get me tenure and then full professor and so on that doesn't promote bold
01:13:20.040 risk intellectual risk a lot intellectual navy so i think what i would like to see more in academia
01:13:26.840 is the rewarding of you know big broad synthetic thinking rather than small minutiae plus delta
01:13:33.560 epsilon now that's still necessary that you do need hyper specialists but uh you know i love i mean
01:13:40.520 what what i've seen today of university of austin is there definitely is an ethos of interdisciplinarity
01:13:46.360 that excites me i i spoke to people that you would think in other universities i would never sit down
01:13:52.600 with because we would be siloed architecturally in completely different buildings i'd never talk about
01:13:58.520 their interest in plato and so on so i would love to be immersed in an environment that's fertile with
01:14:05.480 ideas bold thinking and hopefully good things happen thank you very much thank you sir hey there thank you
01:14:12.360 for being here um you brought up identity politics a lot throughout your lecture and uh citing it as like
01:14:18.200 a negative thing which uh sort of a symptom of a lot of our cultural decay and institutional decay
01:14:24.520 uh but then you also uh criticized um i think her name was anna epstein for uh
01:14:32.280 opposing israel and supporting palestine supporting hamas i believe the phrase you used
01:14:37.800 was attempting to transcend her tribalism which does seem like uh i just have like a hard time
01:14:44.760 reconciling those two positions so i'm not sure what you're asking but let me address it in a general way
01:14:50.440 uh it is it is a feature of the human mind to succumb to coalitional psychology so that is true so in
01:14:59.640 other words there is an innate pension for us to be tribal right so if you you look at the abrahamic
01:15:06.280 religions they're all structured on an us versus them blue team red team so it is true that we do view
01:15:14.920 the world through the lens of us versus them the problem with identity politics it then it then says
01:15:21.480 we're going to adjudicate different decisions based on your identity so i am lebanese jew i talk about that
01:15:29.320 in chapter one because i went through some horrific periods that is part of my identity so i am invoking
01:15:35.080 my identity but i didn't come here and say hey university of austin you must give me the job that i want
01:15:42.840 because of my identity right i present myself to the world as ghat sad part of ghat sad is that i
01:15:49.000 happen to have that heritage but i'm not owed anything for that heritage that's the problem
01:15:53.720 identity politics so yes view the world through coalitional eyes right we either love the detroit
01:15:59.640 lions or we hate the detroit lions there are two types of people in the world so it's okay to be
01:16:03.960 coalitional just don't expect that we're going to met out rewards based on your identity okay thank you
01:16:12.840 first of all thank you for your time this has been extremely fascinating my my question is short but
01:16:19.160 it may be a long answer is we've talked so much about the parasitic mind is there a cure if so what
01:16:25.560 is it well there are several several mind vaccines and i i go through them in the book one of which is
01:16:32.120 that remember the nomological network that i put up right so the nomological network is an effortful cure
01:16:40.840 because it requires a lot of effort to build that network but it then protects you against nonsense
01:16:47.320 right so imagine hundreds of thousands of generations of students have gone through psychology departments
01:16:56.600 where they were taught that all these sex differences are socially constructed i challenge any social
01:17:03.240 constructivist to watch that uh nomological network and stick to that position so uh the the mind vaccine
01:17:11.800 is not just a quick prick and it's gone it's effortful but there are absolute ways for you to uh be inoculated
01:17:19.640 awesome thank you sir thank you hi there hello um i my question is we were discussing a little bit earlier
01:17:26.840 there's a variance of people in personalities and one of your examples specifically that stuck out to
01:17:32.760 me about the children's toy preferences is something to do with personality and so there is some amount
01:17:39.960 of variation of sure toy preferences and also i think this question can be more broad is there any harm to
01:17:47.400 having a typical toy preference no harm whatever no absolutely uh so this is not saying it's not a
01:17:57.000 normative statement boys should prefer deep boys girls should prefer that it's simply questioning the
01:18:04.520 position that says that to the extent that there are very predictable sex specific patterns and toy
01:18:12.200 preferences are those due to social construction or is there a inerrant universal biological based reason
01:18:20.120 for those without casting any judgment to the millions of boys who have sex role reversals of toy
01:18:26.840 preferences and girls so there's no normative judgment but there is a judgment as to the veracity of the
01:18:32.360 position are they due to social construction or biology and that nomological network says it's absolutely
01:18:38.200 biology thank you thank you hello thank you for your time super super super interesting um yeah three
01:18:46.280 supers suit three supers wow yeah so uh my question i feel like many people on the right kind of look at
01:18:54.520 the crazy five percent of the left and kind of believe that's like the entire 50 of the left including the
01:19:05.000 moderate left what do you have to say about that i'll maybe i'll give an analogy how many uh terrorists
01:19:12.120 did it take to alter the new york city skyline not a lot it wasn't 190 million it wasn't 190 000 it wasn't
01:19:22.360 19 000 it was 19 so it doesn't take too many people to take us to the abyss of infinite lunacy right so i don't
01:19:31.160 care if the number is five percent or twelve percent they are the ones who control for much of the
01:19:37.640 past 80 years all of the institutions of the intelligentsia and so it is absolutely true that
01:19:45.400 most students at any university even at the most woke university don't walk around with blue hair
01:19:51.160 you know crying because a tree was cut that's fine but the ones who do keep the rest of us in check
01:19:58.440 right i mean not me but in general right so so so i'm not very sympathetic to the idea that come
01:20:06.200 on but it's only five percent that five percent can cause a lot of damage that five percent becomes
01:20:10.600 our prime minister so okay thank you thank you sir yep my question is do you think that this sort of
01:20:17.240 crybaby parasite is going to inevitably continue because we're reading rousseau right now and he's
01:20:23.080 talked a lot about how science and learning softens us and like technology softens us and so you know
01:20:29.080 with automation and with academia the two a's when they come together is there any way that you know
01:20:35.880 this softening can really so that by when you say the crybaby parasite you mean like the victimology
01:20:41.000 narrative yeah like very soft yeah i mean i don't know if i can link that to technology i mean what i can
01:20:47.960 i do have several theories some of which i discuss in the parasitic mind so i talk about the homeostasis
01:20:55.880 of victimology do you know what a homeostatic system is so like your your uh temperature gauge in your
01:21:03.000 their thermostat in your hotel room is a homeostatic system right i set it at 72 if it gets too hot it cools
01:21:09.960 it if it gets too cold it heats it right many things in our bodies are homeostatic systems if my blood
01:21:16.120 sugar goes down i will engage to get food to then re-equilibrate right so i argue that what's
01:21:23.240 happened regrettably in the west is a form of homeostasis of victimology which is there is a
01:21:29.000 set threshold of victimology that i must adhere to and if i can't find it i will then create full
01:21:37.880 victimhood so jussie smollett was a perfect manifestation of that phenomenon do you know who that is
01:21:44.520 that just anybody know who yes so he's the actor who was making i don't know a million dollars uh an
01:21:52.280 episode i mean maybe a b or c level actor but he had succeeded he had everything he's living in the
01:21:57.960 freest country in the history of the world but that wasn't enough because he didn't have the most
01:22:03.240 important metric which was a compelling story of victimhood and therefore no problem i manufacture one
01:22:09.880 so i don't know if i could link it to victimology but uh to to technology but it's a dreadful way to
01:22:16.360 organize society because if anybody has a right to claim that they have been victimized it is the one
01:22:24.040 that you're speaking to right now if you saw the childhood that i had in lebanon and yet one of the
01:22:29.800 things that i'm most proud of is that i have overcome my victim narrative i'm standing here in front
01:22:35.720 of you so yes my past is part of who i am but i don't dwell on it as a matter of fact i want to
01:22:41.800 seek revenge on it by having a successful fruitful life yeah just to add something really quick like
01:22:48.600 i just wonder if it's sort of an inevitable stage of a democracy like or a place where there's a lot
01:22:54.760 of liberty and freedom because like people just lose that certainty of things of themselves yes so there
01:23:01.320 is a similar argument when it comes to for example anorexia nervosa anorexia nervosa you'll never find
01:23:08.920 it in countries of scarcity because people are too concerned about actually getting food to then have the
01:23:18.040 luxury of succumbing because you understand what i'm saying so it happens in cultures of plentitude
01:23:25.080 that you get anorexia and so to your point i think it's something similar victimology narratives is
01:23:32.120 not something that happens to ethiopians during their endemic famines but it happens in the west
01:23:38.200 where we've become flabby and fat thank you thank you i just want to thank you for the speech this is
01:23:46.280 definitely one of the most interesting ones one of if not the most interesting one we've had at uatx
01:23:53.320 um my question pertains to like this list of items on the screen um on the previous slide the first
01:23:59.480 one you mentioned um you want me to go to it um sure we can
01:24:07.080 that the pursuit of knowledge um it's the first one yeah no knowledge pursue knowledge unencumbered by
01:24:12.760 ideological activism no knowledge is forbidden if gathered objectively using the scientific method yes
01:24:17.800 so regarding the objectively and scientific method part do you believe it is possible to gather information
01:24:23.000 objectively and two is the only information that um is not off limits is that that we can gather
01:24:29.880 through the scientific method the scientific method is the only game in town epistemologically
01:24:34.680 speaking there are no other ways of knowing uh and can you do it objectively yes i i've made a career
01:24:41.720 doing it i'm sure many other people have here that doesn't mean that you don't have personal biases in
01:24:47.720 the types of research problems you might be interested in or something but can i actually design an
01:24:54.440 experiment to test the hypothesis fully devoid of any biases yes i've done it for 31 years okay so for
01:25:02.680 example when it comes to the study with testosterone right i mean we take the salivary assays we send them
01:25:09.560 to a lab they measure it where did my bias get in there is no bias so absolutely there's a way the problem
01:25:16.200 arises where certain fields become more about the activism than the pursuit of truth so sociology is
01:25:25.800 not inherently a non-scientific discipline right there are there are very good academics who can pursue
01:25:33.160 really important sociological problems the problem with sociology is that it views its main reason
01:25:39.160 death as activism that's what not what it should be the pursuit of truth is not about activism it's about
01:25:45.640 uncovering the truth thank you very much thank you oh i know this guy thank you professor sad i just
01:25:51.160 want to second what many of the students have said this has been great talk i really appreciate you
01:25:54.680 coming here um i have a sarcastic but still serious question uh you mentioned was it in a published paper
01:26:01.640 that someone made the argument that the idf's hesitancy to rape palestinians was a sign of their
01:26:08.200 inclination to other it was so i don't know if she ended up publishing it i think it might have been part of
01:26:13.080 her doctoral dissertation but it's easy to track her her name is talen itzaim she was a doctoral student
01:26:18.600 at hebrew university i'm just curious whether anybody has argued the opposite thing that for
01:26:22.760 example all of the rapes that took place on october 7th and surely since then to all the hostages
01:26:28.760 uh is uh evidence of the gazans solidarity with um the israeli people i see the sarcasm no i haven't
01:26:37.000 heard that one but let's i mean it logically would follow from the same kind of premise right i mean
01:26:41.640 that makes sense yes uh i haven't heard it but uh it's only a matter of time i like how you're
01:26:45.880 thinking yes thank you thank you for your very enjoyable talk thank you uh what you're wearing
01:26:51.240 right there would get you into a big trouble at my university i would refrain from wearing that if
01:26:56.520 you come to gaza university i'll be careful my question is so you showed us a lot of studies
01:27:02.760 and obviously we can see where humans think fallibly and we have we misconstrue things in our head how
01:27:10.040 effective is that if you told everybody how effective would that be in making them think
01:27:15.160 more rationally or more toward i hate to pat myself on the back very effective so it depends
01:27:21.240 how you measure effectiveness if it's a hundred people have listened to my message and it needs
01:27:27.720 to be that i flip 95 of them then it hasn't been effective but if have i had thousands of people
01:27:37.080 write to me and say you freed me from my nonsense yes so it depends how you measure success in my
01:27:44.680 view even if i'm able to flip one person from the uh constraints of parasitic thinking i've done a
01:27:50.840 good job and i can assure you there's been probably many hundreds of thousands thank you thank you thank
01:27:56.920 you for your time that you've given us thank you give this wonderful talk my question is that um
01:28:02.840 um the president recently signed an executive order saying that there are legally now only two
01:28:07.880 genders so what do you think of the uh practicality of that on passports for people born intersex and
01:28:14.520 for men who transition to women and you know have breasts and a feminine face and a feminine waist but i
01:28:20.840 mean literally in the context of the passport or well for passports but also for other things do you
01:28:26.680 do you think that's practical for like i get yeah now no longer says x on a passport that makes sense
01:28:32.280 to me or the uh new pronouns like or whatever but yeah for specifically for transgenders and intersex
01:28:40.120 people do you think that's practical so maybe i'll answer in this way a lot of people misconstrued
01:28:45.880 so that do you guys know who jordan peterson is yes so jordan is a good good friend of mine and of
01:28:51.640 course he got caught up in the gender pronoun stuff and when we both appeared in front of the
01:28:57.320 canadian senate to talk about these things a lot of people wrongly thought that somehow we're these
01:29:02.520 like monsters who are non-empathetic who are going to misgender someone that's not at all what we're
01:29:09.240 arguing right so i do want to do everything i can to make someone feel comfortable and if i can do it
01:29:16.120 i'll i'm happy to do it that can't come at the cost of the rights of others so for example
01:29:24.360 no we shouldn't have the removal of the binary male or female because there might be someone who's
01:29:30.520 non-binary because they may constitute one out of ten thousand no i'm not called a cis male i'm male
01:29:38.120 and my wife is female and my daughter is female and my son is male i don't need to put new
01:29:44.760 uh prefixes to in order to be gentle to you so i can be a kind person without murdering and raping
01:29:52.440 truth so that gives you a general framework under which i look at all these things so if there is a
01:29:57.240 way to resolve the passport issue to make those people feel comfortable fine but it can't come at
01:30:03.240 the detriment of my biological marker which is i am male thank you thank you how do you think that zionism
01:30:10.760 is not a form of identity politics when it's like one of the most binding factors on the right
01:30:16.040 especially right now the fact that you hold to an identity doesn't mean that you're supporting identity
01:30:22.440 politics if i said people who live in israel and if they come to mit should have preferential treatment
01:30:31.640 in admissions that's identity politics if you say you're wearing a cross right that cross is advertising
01:30:40.440 your identity but and that's perfectly fine but you're not then saying because i'm wearing that cross
01:30:47.560 give me unique preference over the other people in this room who are not wearing that cross so no one
01:30:53.560 is questioning the fact as i mentioned to one of the earlier people that identity formation is part of
01:31:00.120 who we are so i am lebanese jew and i'm happy with that but i don't deserve any accolades or any
01:31:08.520 punishments for that identity if i lived in lebanon my head goes out if i at that identity so that's all i'm
01:31:15.320 saying so zionism of course it is identity based but the argument is that there are 56 islamic countries that
01:31:23.160 exist around the world precisely because they are organized around the islamic faith surely a people
01:31:30.120 that have had a right to that land for thousands of years could have a region the size of new jersey
01:31:36.920 that they call their own that's all it is that doesn't mean that in my supporting the right of
01:31:41.560 israel to exist i am being uh contradictory because i rail against identity politics does that make sense
01:31:49.000 yeah but wouldn't that be converging like identity politics and dei because there's a difference for
01:31:53.960 sure you're like claiming that you get something because because of your identity compared to binding
01:31:59.400 together with other people like let's say on the right wing if you're not a zionist that would still be
01:32:03.960 like people would push you away from their groups because you're not a part of their identity so the
01:32:08.360 question is what so wouldn't that be identity politics like if you're a white right winger and someone
01:32:13.720 isn't a zionist you push them away which happens yeah identity politics as i uh rail against is the use
01:32:22.040 of your identity in adjudicating limited resources there there are 17 places to get into mit we should
01:32:31.720 pick the best students it shouldn't be because you are this or that that's identity politics that doesn't
01:32:39.560 mean that the 17 people that we pick don't have identities that define them right so railing
01:32:46.920 against identity politics doesn't mean that personal identity cease to exist all that it means is don't
01:32:54.120 use that identity to either punish others or reward others that's all thank you sir thank you yeah it's an
01:33:01.640 honor to meet you and have you here at our university sir um i with my question i kind of wanted to bring
01:33:07.560 it back to a little bit to you and your your personal story um aside from the islamic component of the
01:33:15.080 lebanese civil war which you grew up in do you have any are there any lessons or takeaways from that that
01:33:21.160 you yes it actually ties in with the previous gentleman on identity politics the reason why i
01:33:29.560 in chapter one i spent so much time discussing my background in lebanon is because i'm using it as
01:33:36.200 the perfect exemplar of what happens to a society that is wholly organized along identity politics how
01:33:45.640 in lebanon you have an internal id akin to like a passport that if the cops stop you they say show me
01:33:53.480 your in arabic you say how we okay that card they don't care about your height or your eye color or your
01:34:01.960 weight you know what's the number the number one most conspicuous thing on that card what do you
01:34:06.840 think it is religion yes and if you are jewish it wasn't written jewish it was so in arabic jewish is
01:34:17.320 yahudi and it was written israeli israeli means israelite so even though i'm fully lebanese i've got
01:34:27.240 nothing to do with israel you're already creating animus against me because i'm an israelite i'm not lebanese
01:34:33.880 the the parliament is organized it's called the confessional parliament it's organized along
01:34:41.160 religious lines the prime minister has to be of a given religion always the president is of another religion
01:34:49.400 always the speaker of the house is of another religion always and then the other seats in the parliament
01:34:55.880 parliament are allocated depending on the importance of that religion so jews had one seat
01:35:02.680 in lebanese parliament when there were enough jews so everything in lebanon is viewed through the lens of
01:35:10.680 identity politics that only leads to bad things at the extreme that leads to rwanda that leads to iraq
01:35:18.520 that leads to syria that leads to the balkans that leads to lebanon so the reason why i discuss my
01:35:25.160 identity in that book is because then i want to rail against identity politics and i want to use my
01:35:31.800 cautionary tale of what lebanon looked like under identity politics shukram uh he said thank you i said
01:35:40.840 you're welcome well thank you very much guys