UATX Lecture - Evolutionary Psychology, The Parasitic Mind, & Suicidal Empathy (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_790)
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In this episode, Dr. gad sad talks about his research in evolutionary psychology, the parasitic mind, and his new book, Suicidal Empathy. This lecture was delivered at the University of the Austrian School of Social Sciences in Austin.
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in a few minutes i'll be delivering a lecture at uatx it is part evolutionary psychology part
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the parasitic mind and part my next book my forthcoming book on suicidal empathy
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thank you for heating the call uh from the soapbox and for being here nice and prompt
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for another fantastic wednesday speaker series although i really shouldn't say another
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because uh this is in fact a marquee event um our fantastic board of trustees uh brent i can see
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you here in the audience tonight um have asked us as a staff and a faculty to redouble our efforts
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in getting the leading public intellectuals not just in the united states but in the world
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uh to come here to campus to enrich the intellectual lives of our students
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uh and to hopefully form more permanent relationships with the polity here at uatx
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now what is a public intellectual uh is something that should become clear in dean morgan marietta's
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introduction of our guest gad sad this evening uh but gad on behalf of the trustees the management
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the faculty the faculty the staff and students here at the university of austin a very warm welcome
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to you and i'll hand over to the dean to make your introductions
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good afternoon everyone i will be brief uh which shows that people can actually grow and change
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um because i want professor sad to have as much time as possible to talk to you about his ideas and for
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you to ask him questions because gad sad might be the most important public intellectual working
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today and what he is going to say is far more important than anything that i would say
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but just by way of introduction allow me to say this one thing
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at a school like uatx which claims to be in favor of open inquiry which is to say that students and faculty
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can ask any question they find compelling and claims to believe and promote creatives empiricism
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which means that students and faculty can look at any evidence that they want to
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especially the evidence that people don't want them to look at such a university i argue should notice a
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distinction between what you could call a tame lion a domesticated lion and a real lion
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a tame lion might look like a lion might roar a bit but isn't so dangerous
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a domesticated lion might ask an important question but then not ask other ones because they're impolite
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a tame lion might look at some evidence but not really at other ones a tame lion asks himself should i really
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offend should i really be impolite do i have to be that lion every day the domesticated lion asks
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should i really kill that warthog in front of the children but the real lion the real lion thinks
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the warthog had it coming because lions after all eat herd animals and herd animals tend to tell the lies
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of their herd and lions don't like that so in a culture that has hunted most of its lions to extinction
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and the lions that remain face deep incentives to domesticate themselves
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it is a great pleasure to me at this university to introduce a real lion
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uh i've received many lovely introductions i've never been uh compared to a majestic line i'm adding
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majestic just to make me even more impressive uh so thank you for that beautiful introduction thank
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you ben thank you everybody who's here all the people who made me feel so appreciated and welcome here
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um so today what i'm going to do is just give you a bit of an overview you know 45 50 minutes i can't
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really get into too many things in great details but i will touch briefly on evolutionary psychology
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which is my main area of academic research and then i'll talk about the parasitic mind many of you
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might know that book and then the the continuing of that story which is the forthcoming book suicidal
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empathy and so hopefully you'll get a bit of a gist of some of the things that i do i'm going to start
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my uh try to stay to the 45 minutes here we go most evolutionists will tell you and certainly
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evolutionist psychologists will tell you the exact moment that they had their evolutionary epiphany that
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they said oh this is something that i need to be paying attention to and you know perhaps use in my work
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so in my case it was the first semester as a doctoral student at cornell i was taking a advanced
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social psychology course with professor dennis reagan and about halfway through the semester
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he assigned a book that truly changed certainly my professional life the book is titled homicide
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which i highly recommend you all read it it's by two of the pioneers of evolutionary psychology husband
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and wife team margo wilson and martin daly and what they did is they looked at patterns of criminality
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via an evolutionary lens and they showed that there is unbelievably similar causation to many
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patterns of criminality across time and across space so for example who do what do you think is the
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biggest predictor of child abuse in a home i'll just take one or two possible answers because i i
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i have to move on yes because you've read my work you're cheating well usually no one ever gives
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that answer but you're exactly correct if there is a step parent in the house it's a 100 greater predictor
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100 times greater predictor than the next predictor in terms of having child abuse now you could read
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the social science literature and they've come up with 16 000 different explanations none of which
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are all of which combined don't add up to the explanatory power of that singular phenomenon so when
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i saw the explanatory power and the parsimony of the evolutionary lens i thought okay well i will now take
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this evolutionary lens and apply it in the areas that i'm interested in and so i want to give you a few
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examples of studies that i've done using the evolutionary lens because if hopefully i do end
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up coming to uatx one of the courses that i hope to teach is a course on you know evolutionary theory
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evolution in society so i want to give this certainly the students a flavor of what are the types of
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things that i would study so this is a a paper that uh actually received a lot of attention with one of my
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former graduate students so this is peacocking right the the peacock evolves this trait precisely because
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it is an honest signal of his phenotypic you know his his quality of course human beings also engage
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in peacocking and so we took this idea and we brought in male participants and had them drive an actual
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porsche that we rented try to get a scientific granting agency to give you money for renting a
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porsche for a weekend and convince them that it's truly for science well we did it and then they also
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drove a you know beaten up old sedan and the key dependent measure was salivary assays because we then
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wanted to measure their testosterone levels what would happen if you drive the fancy porsche or the
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beaten up car in one of two environments either in downtown montreal where everyone can see you
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driving the low status car high status car and or you're driving it in a semi-deserted highway
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not surprising to anybody in this room when you put young men in the porsche their endocrinological
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system blows up and so that would be an example of using a hormonal marker to study a phenomenon that
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happens in in the animal literature but in the context of a consumer behavior
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this is a study that we unfortunately have yet to publish but we started it many years ago
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it also uses a car so these are imagine these are two dating profiles the only thing that's different
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across the two dating profiles is what is my favorite possession in one version it's a fancy red porsche
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and the other one sorry to anybody who owns a old kia it's an it's an old kia and then we ask the people
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a whole bunch of things about this guy who of course doesn't change across the two conditions
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i'm only going to talk about one of the dependent measures his height now if you want to see why
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evolutionary psychology is so powerful guess what happens to this guy's height as a function of
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whether it is women judging him or men judging him in the porsche condition so we call this actually the
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status elongation effect and the status contraction effect when women see this guy in the porsche
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he magically becomes taller this is why i have i'm trying to convince my wife that we need to buy a porsche
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on the other hand what do you think happens to men's perceptions of his height when they see him in this
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thing he becomes shorter why because i am threatened not by another man who has
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nicer shoulders than me but i'm threatened by a man who has higher status than me and so what do i do
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i will then engage in intrasexual derogation when that happens so when i see a guy in a porsche
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oh you know what he must be some little short guy he's trying to compensate so the exact same stimulus
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results in completely perceptual bias in opposite directions depending on whether i'm male or female
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you could have never hypothesized this stuff if you didn't understand the evolutionary dynamics
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one more quick example uh this is a study we did also with hormones but in this case
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with women's behavior and here what you're seeing this is called the homology meaning that the same
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phenomenon has evolved across many species because of shared lineage so when female chimpanzees go into
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estrus the way that they signal that they are sexually receptive is that they have an engorgement
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and enlargement of their genitalia perhaps thankfully that's not how human females do it
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but they do do it in other ways how do they do it as we found out in this really elaborate study that
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we did where we tracked women's behavior across 35 days why 35 because the average length of a menstrual
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cycle is 28 days so by covering 35 you're pretty much covering all the variants across women and we
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found out that women will engage in much more vigorous sexual signaling when they are in the ovulatory phase
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of their menstrual cycles okay so again you're taking an insight that you know from evolutionary biology
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that you know from other animals and then you're applying it to the human context in modern settings and
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so that's a lot of the academic research that i do is that one or two more quick things about
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evolutionary psychology and then i'll move on to the parasitic mind this is a incredibly important slide
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because it actually completely alters the way you've you you understand science much of science operates at the
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proximate level proximate means understanding the how and the what of a phenomenon so most nobel
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prizes that have ever been won have been won at the proximate level and i'll you'll see in a second
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i'm going to give a concrete example the ultimate explanation of a phenomenon doesn't mean ultimate in
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a superior sense it means ultimate in the darwinian why sense why did the phenomenon evolve to be of that
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form so for any phenomenon involving biological agents if you only focus on the proximate causation
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you only have part of the explanation if you explain both the proximate and ultimate you've given the
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full explanation so take for example pregnancy sickness pregnancy sickness is something that is
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universally true i mean different women will experience it to different extents there are a million
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proximate questions i could ask about pregnancy sickness does a particular smell cause greater
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severity of the symptoms in pregnancy sickness that's a how and what question the darwinian why why have
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women evolved pregnancy sickness that turns out to be an unbelievable answer pregnancy sickness is so
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predictable that you can set your watch to it it happens at a very specific time during organogenesis during
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the first trimester of gestation and because organogenesis is such an important period where
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the organs are forming in utero it's important that the mother not be exposed to food pathogens
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teratogens that might wreak havoc to the organ formation therefore women are attracted to certain foods that reduce
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pathogenic load pickles women are unattracted and become repulsed to other foods that might
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might have high pathogenic load and then as the ultimate insurance policy in case you ingested something
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that's not good for the baby you have the symptoms of nausea and throwing up right and then very
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very magically once organogenesis ends boom pregnancy sickness finishes now you might say okay that sounds
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great explanation but who cares well there's actually big who cares when you go see your obgyn and you
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say i'm experiencing pregnancy sickness symptoms what he or she will do is the perfectly incorrect thing from an
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evolutionary perspective why because since those symptoms evolved because they are adaptive you want
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to experience those symptoms whereas when you take the pill it shuts that off well it turns out that the
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more pregnancy sickness a woman experiences the better the trajectory of the gestation the less likely of a
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a miscarriage so i've lectured about this in front of not only physicians but in front of obgyns and then
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they'll come up to me and say professor sarva we never learned this in medical school well you didn't
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because even in your medical school curriculum you were stuck in proximate world so imagine if now
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we study many many phenomenon it could be politics it could be uh you know psychiatry it could be whatever you
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want at both levels it opens up a complete new realm of epistemological discovery
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one of the things that i often talk about is the consilience that is afforded via evolutionary
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psychology uh consilience refers to unity of knowledge so i won't go through all of these here
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but these are all different disciplines that have been darwinized many of which you wouldn't have thought
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could be darwinized so i've mentioned a few of these today to several people here is an example of
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one that you wouldn't have known literary darwinism is the application of darwinian theory to study
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literature so this is now a joining of the natural sciences evolutionary biology with the humanities
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literature the idea being that the reason why literature tickles our fancy the reason why we want to
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read a beautiful story from 2000 years ago is because it is catering to a few basic universally
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templates paternity uncertainty sibling rivalry parent offspring conflict romantic infidelity and so
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on and so that's the stuff of literature so rather than studying literature via a marxist lens or a
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feminist lens and so on study it through an evolutionary lens and you'll get completely
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better and more accurate insights i'll just discuss one more just because it's kind of a cool one i don't
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know where it is evolutionary architecture is a discipline that very few people know about most
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architects are trained to minimize or maximize one of two metrics minimize the cost uh well in this case
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also minimize say the time of delivery whereas evolutionary architecture uses different optimization metrics it says
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how can we create architectural designs that cater to our biophilic instinct biophilia is love of nature
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so you end up with completely different designs once you understand what is it that tickles our biophilic
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fancy so i won't go through all of these but the reason i put it up is to say there really is an endless
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number of disciplines that are waiting and begging to be enriched by the evolutionary lens all right
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uh here i'm all i'm going to say about this is so the first time that i sort of had the idea of
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writing the parasitic mind was very early in my career when i was trying to darwinize the social sciences in
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general but the business school in particular and i thought it's very obvious how could you study
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leadership or entrepreneurship or consumer psychology or economic behavior without ever invoking our
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biological heritage don't our hormones affect our behavior when we're making decisions i mean how could
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that be how could you go through an entire business curriculum without ever uttering the dreaded b word
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word biology and so but i noticed that most of my academic colleagues thought that it was complete
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nonsense that i'm doing all this biology and evolutionary psychology stuff and that's when i first had this
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idea that how could these very sophisticated intelligent people be so parasitized by ideology that they
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they they can't accept that the same mechanism that explains the behavior of every other species on
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earth somehow doesn't explain the behavior of one species called homo sapiens and if they can afford
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the possibility that it could explain human phenomena the human phenomena have to stop at the neck meaning
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that yes use evolution to explain opposable thumbs but don't you dare use evolutionary theory to explain the
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human mind that's crazy talk you must be a jewish nazi so that was originally when i had the idea that
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things can go wrong in academia and then the next 30 years kind of amplified that which led to the
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writing of the parasitic mind but before i do that since i was talking about uh uh ovulatory cycle and
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menstruation earlier this is an actual symposium scientific symposium that was held at my home
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university i'm currently at a michigan university but my home university is in montreal it was a one-day
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symposium pushing for menstrual equity because menstruation is a human right what the hell does that mean
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i mean i didn't know that until we held that symposium women were shackled with an inability to
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menstruate but apparently we had to hold a symposium to promulgate the idea of menstrual rights and menstrual
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until 15 minutes ago the 117 billion people that have ever existed on earth that's an actual estimate
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we're able to fully navigate through the very tricky conundrum of who is male and who is female
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but 15 minutes ago we lost that ability as a sexually reproducing species so much so that
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our good friend here the latest addition to the u.s supreme court did not have the epistemological
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confidence to clearly state what is a woman that's what a parasitized mind looks like which we'll get
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into in a second this is an actual anesthesiologist with whom i had several interactions on twitter if you
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want to have fun go follow me on twitter i take no prisoners
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so this degenerate argued that she has a medical degree and she's a woman and there is a man
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mansplaining her what menstruation is because i was arguing are you insane to argue that men can
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menstruate you're a physician you're an anesthesiologist when you determine the doses of
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anesthesia do you recognize this thing called male or female and if you just read her stuff it's it's
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absolutely unbelievable this is a physician do you want her as your physician that's what happens with
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parasitized minds now the reason i put up this specific example is because for many many years
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when i would stand on top of the mountain screaming we have a problem people would say to me sure
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professor saad this might happen in some esoteric humanities department but it's not going to go
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further i go no no no it's coming for everyone because it escapes from the humanities department you
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know what happens it becomes the prime minister of canada called justin trudeau
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because he is a walking manifestation of every parasitic idea that i discuss in the parasitic mind
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this is a the top anthropology society in the united states and canada canceled a session
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by five female anthropologists and archaeologists who were arguing that it is insane when you
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you're doing anthropological and archaeological work to get rid of the fixed binary called male or
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female that was so contentious and it drew such ire in the 21st century that it was canceled that's
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what parasitic minds look like so now let me really kind of drill down with some of the the stuff from
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the parasitic mind how did i develop this idea of using the neuro parasitic framework to explain my
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stuff well there are many types of pathogens that kill us that's been our biggest bane throughout our
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evolutionary history there are some bacterium there are viruses there are fungi there are parasites but
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of course i argue that there are ideological neuro parasites that serve the same purpose so in the
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same way that i could be zombified by an actual brain worm i could be zombified by idea pathogens post-modernism
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cultural relativism and so on i'll talk about that in a sec here's some examples of these parasitic stuff
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and i'll i'll do one more on the other this is a parasitic wasp which when it stings the
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uh spider it renders the spider zombified but fully alive it then carries it pulls it drags it into its burrow
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it lays eggs on it and then as the eggs hatch they eat the in vivo uh spider uh alive well think of
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political correctness akin to the spider wasp sting quietly and merrily you walk into the abyss of
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infinite lunacy saying yeah of course men too can menstruate absolutely right here's another one
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toxoplasma gandhi which can by the way infect human beings but the classic example is when toxoplasma gandhi
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uh parasitizes the mind of a mouse the mouse loses loses its very adaptive fear of cats and it actually
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becomes attracted to the sexually attracted to the cats uh to the cat's urine that's not a very good
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attraction to have if you're a mouse but it serves the purpose of the parasite here is a parasite that
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afflicts ungulates elk moose deer when they're parasitized by it they start going around and circle
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kind of bobbing their heads even when the looming predators come they can't extricate themselves
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from that repetitive behavior they don't invoke their flight mechanism let's move on to one more
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example this is a wood cricket it hates water and here we've got a hair worm that when it parasitizes
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the wood cricket the wood cricket merrily jumps into water committing suicide in the service of the
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parasite why because the parasite needs it to go into water so it can complete its reproductive cycle
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so what are human forms of parasites queers for palestine
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they are the beautiful wood cricket jumping into that water right if if i present myself to the world
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through my queer identity as the first presentation of who i am do i prefer to be in tel aviv which is one of
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the most queer friendly cities in the world or do i want to put my support behind gaza which has a very
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effective 100 effective gravity-based conversion therapy program we throw you head first off a building and then
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that cures you of your queerness that's what a wood cricket looks like and then in this case we've got
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jewish anna epstein at boston university who is so much more progressive than all of you degenerates
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that she was caught on camera taking off the posters of the uh kidnapped israeli children
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because she transcends that kind of tribal stuff she's on the side of the good guys hamas who had
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she been at that nova film festival it would have turned out badly for anna epstein but she's progressive
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she knows better this is straight this is an actual quote from the parasitic mind i mean you could read
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it but i'll just instead say it tal nitsan jewish tal nitsan was a doctoral student at hebrew university
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who was working on a project to identify the rampant rape of palestinian women by israeli idf
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soldiers she conducted her research and she found out that there wasn't a single documented case of
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rape by the idf on palestinian women so if you're a honest academic then incoming information came in
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my hypothesis seems to have been refuted okay well no it didn't refute her hypothesis
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it turns out that the fact that the idf soldiers did not rape a single palestinian woman
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demonstrate the extents the extent to which they other the palestinian women that the palestinian
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women are not sufficiently human that they are worthy of rape so had the idf soldiers raped the
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women they would have been pigs but if the idf soldiers don't rape any women they're also pigs so
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all roads lead to my hypothesis being supported which is the idf are evil zionist pigs and and she's
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parasitized of course because it's the same idf soldiers who don't rape the palestinian women
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that are protecting her so that she can publish this
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he's very touching let me tell you why he's norwegian guy who presents himself to the world as a
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male feminist and anti-racist ally that's the quote right here he was raped and sodomized by a noble
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somali immigrant as as it goes in norway you don't get much of a sentence uh for rape you know very
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very light sentence i think maybe he got a year something whatever it was when he came out of
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detention this guy was racked with existential guilt because his sodomizer was now going to be
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potentially deported to somalia where he wouldn't be able to maximally flourish and so he was guilty
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that his rapist was now going to have a bad life in somalia that's not an emotional system that we
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have evolved this is what happens when you have suicidal empathy and i'll come to that in a sec
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so these are some of the idea pathogens that i discuss in uh the parasitic mind i will spend a bit
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of time talking about a few of these i'll talk about post-modernism and a few others
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so here you there's one of them is uh identity politics right now yes donald trump is coming to
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office here he's eradicating all the die stuff i call it die rather than dei because die is where
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everything goes to die uh and circ is the top it's the national science and engineering research
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council think of it as like the nsf of canada university of waterloo is akin to let's say caltech
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or mit it's very well known in canada for its engineering and computer science departments
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so the school of computer science at a top computer science and engineering school in canada
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puts out a call for two chaired professorship but these are the highest chaired professors professors
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because they are endowed by the government this is verbatim this is not me using my satire so this
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is verbatim position one in all areas of artificial intelligence and we know how big artificial
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intelligence is is getting but now watch the types of uh qualities that i'm looking in my professor of
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artificial intelligence the call is open only to qualified individuals who self-identify as women
00:33:28.760
transgender gender fluid non-binary or two-spirit i have a mathematics and computer science degree
00:33:37.240
and i feel so ashamed that when i learned analysis of algorithms and computational theory
00:33:43.320
that i didn't incorporate the unique knowledge of nine non-binary computer scientists and the second
00:33:50.520
one it's based on race you have to be either racialized or you have to identify as being racialized
00:33:56.360
and so on this is at a top canadian university so maybe you dodged the bullet in the u.s with
00:34:02.680
having donald trump we're still heavily mired in it this is at my home university the number one item
00:34:14.360
on the five-year strategic plan is to indigenize and decolonize the entire curriculum you're teaching
00:34:24.200
shakespeare decolonize indigenize you're teaching neuroscience decolonize indigenize that's at a major
00:34:33.160
45 000 student research university here is an example of a project that received a lot of funding
00:34:41.800
to study optics and light but to study it by decolonizing it because all those physicists who were not
00:34:52.360
informed by indigenous knowledge didn't really make a breakthrough this is happening at every canadian
00:34:58.040
university you could think of this example is one that maybe a few of you have heard me mention
00:35:06.760
and if so apologies but it's still worth hearing it in person and for the rest of you buckle up it's a fun one
00:35:12.440
in 2002 one of my doctoral students had just defended his doctoral dissertation and so we were heading
00:35:22.360
out for a celebratory dinner myself my wife him and he was bringing a date so a few hours before we were
00:35:31.480
meeting at the restaurant he calls me and i kind of pick up he's maybe being a bit nervous on the phone he
00:35:37.880
was oh i just wanted to give you a heads up that the the lady that i'm bringing to the to the dinner
00:35:43.480
as a graduate student in post-modernism women's studies and cultural anthropology to which i answered
00:35:56.280
i said oh no no i got you i'm going to be on my best behavior this is your night mom's the word you don't
00:36:03.560
get a peep out of me complete bullshit because i'm definitely going to not speak so at one point i
00:36:09.960
turned to the lady in question but very politely very jovially i said oh i i hear you're a post-modernist
00:36:16.600
there are no universal truths other than the one universal truth that there are no universal truths
00:36:21.800
he said yes no universal truth i said do you mind if i offer what i think is a universal truth and then
00:36:27.720
we can discuss it how i might be airing she said yes and you'll see in a second why i've picked
00:36:33.000
these two photos i said is it not true that for homo sapiens since time immemorial women bear
00:36:42.600
children this is way before trans craze this is 2002 she looks at me scoffs at my imbecility and
00:36:51.400
simple mind says no that's not true said it's not true that only women bear children how is that
00:36:56.840
she goes well there is a japanese tribe of some japanese island whereby within their mythological
00:37:04.280
folkloric men it is the men who bear children so by you restricting it to the materialistic band
00:37:11.240
that's how you know you keep us barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen so after i recovered from the
00:37:17.960
mini stroke i had listening to that stuff i said maybe it's too contentious for me to
00:37:25.880
say that only women bear children can i give another example that might be a bit less poisonous
00:37:30.440
uh what if i tell you that since time immemorial sailors have relied on the cosmological premise that
00:37:38.440
the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and here she used a variant of postmodernism called
00:37:45.160
deconstructionism jacques derrida language creates reality she said well what do you mean by east and west
00:37:51.800
and what do you mean by the sun that which you call the sun i might call dancing hyena
00:37:59.320
i said well fine the dancing hyena rises in the east and sets in the west she said i don't play those
00:38:04.680
label games why why did i why do i repeatedly give this example because it perfectly captures
00:38:12.680
that ethos if we can call it that if a grown adult who's doing a graduate degree at one of the leading
00:38:20.760
universities and that university is it was in montreal you can guess which one it is it's it's called the
00:38:27.160
harvard of the north and we can't agree on shared meaning of women bear children there is east and
00:38:34.920
west and the sun rises and sets it's intellectual terrorism it serves no purpose it's a dead end
00:38:44.440
this is another uh idea pathogen it social constructivism is everything is a social
00:38:50.600
construction there are no evolutionary imperatives and biophobia is the fear of using biology to
00:38:55.880
explain human affairs as i alluded to earlier this is what leads to actual campaigns where because
00:39:03.640
the company is so progressive they show little boys playing with dolls and little girls playing with
00:39:09.400
guns and so what i'm going to do next it's actually a really important slide i'm going to show you how
00:39:14.360
you dismantle that kind of nonsense this is something that i discussed in chapter seven of the parasitic mind
00:39:20.040
where i'm discussing how to seek truth how can i build an argument that makes it unassailable
00:39:27.720
against all detractors so i'm trying to demonstrate this that there is a sex-specific
00:39:34.760
biological route to toy preferences how can i convince you of that well what i'm going to do
00:39:40.680
is i'm going to drown you in so much converging evidence from many different distinct lines of evidence
00:39:48.920
so that it becomes unassailable so i can get you data and from developmental psychology
00:39:56.040
where children by definition are too young to yet be socialized they already exhibit those
00:40:01.960
sex-specific toy preferences if i stopped right there i've already destroyed the social constructivist
00:40:08.440
argument but i'm not going to stop there then i can get you data from other species vervet monkeys
00:40:14.360
rhesus monkeys and chimpanzees showing you that they exhibit the same sex-specific toy preferences
00:40:20.280
i can get you data from pediatric endocrinology where little girls who suffer from congenital adrenal
00:40:27.960
hyperplasia which is a endocrinological disorder that max masculinizes the behavior of little girls
00:40:36.760
those little girls have the reversal of their toy preferences they have toy preferences that are
00:40:41.640
akin to those of boys i can get you data from ancient greece and ancient rome where you look at
00:40:49.560
funerary monuments where little children are shown depicted in the exact same sex specific toys that
00:40:56.040
we play with today i can get you data from non-western cultures sub-saharan africa where they play with the
00:41:03.160
exact same sex specific toys so you see what i'm doing across species across time periods across methodology and
00:41:10.600
so on i am triangulating to demonstrate that this is a veridical statement so for the students who are
00:41:17.480
here and even the professors who are here this is an epistemological tool that's like a nuclear bomb
00:41:24.520
that that's what allows me to go into very hostile environments but i am equipped and armed with the
00:41:31.720
requisite nomological networks well good luck to you if you want to debate me but on the other hand if i don't
00:41:38.680
know what i'm talking about if i haven't built the requisite nomological network and you ask me a
00:41:43.560
question i won't wing it i'll tell you that's a great question i don't know enough about it right
00:41:47.800
so that's what allows me to never be caught notwithstanding the number of appearances that i do and so on
00:41:56.360
ostrich parasitic syndrome is something that i discuss in chapter six of the parasitic mind it refers to a
00:42:04.040
orgiastic need to deny reality irrespective of the amount of evidence that i've offered you
00:42:11.560
so here so now by the way the ostrich doesn't literally do that but it has become a metaphor for
00:42:17.880
wishing to deny reality yes so this number here
00:42:24.760
almost 47 000 there have been nearly 47 000 islamic terror attacks in nearly 70 countries since 9 11 alone
00:42:41.160
yes and when they commit that terror act they tell you exactly why they're doing it but the western
00:42:49.960
bien pensant the good thinkers the politically correct folks told us no no no don't believe
00:42:56.920
when the terrorists tell you why they committed the 47 000 here are some of the other causes it turns out
00:43:05.640
that if you play video games that can turn you into a islamic terrorist which is making me a bit worried
00:43:13.320
because my son now is playing a lot of video games he just had his bar mitzvah but i'm thinking that he's
00:43:19.240
very close to joining isis it turns out also as the super smart bowtied bill nye explained to us that
00:43:30.200
the bataklan attack in paris where they screamed allahu akbar and gave incantations of the specific
00:43:36.520
quranic verses that lead to them butchering everybody was very conceivably due to climate change
00:43:42.600
okay it turns out also that the guys who did the attack in san bernardino a few years ago it was due to
00:43:51.080
beard bullying that's why i keep my beard very trim because i don't want to be beard bullied because then
00:43:57.960
that could send me to rakka to throw the gays off rooftops and it goes on and on and on here's another one
00:44:05.720
lack of adequate exposure to art so some of the uh belgian terrorists the argument was i mean look if
00:44:13.240
you're not exposed to enough klimt and chagall would it most of us go out and kill random people
00:44:19.720
so imagine the level of intellectual degeneracy but these are professors mostly not bill nye but a lot of
00:44:26.760
other ones that the the willingness that you're willing to go through and your suicidal empathy to not
00:44:39.720
let me just briefly mention i won't get into all this because i want to
00:44:43.000
try to stick to the 45 minutes my next book let me briefly tell you kind of the background to it
00:44:50.600
we are both as i explained to the students earlier in our meeting we are both of course
00:44:54.440
a thinking and a feeling animal it's not that we're one or the other that the challenge is to know when
00:44:59.560
to invoke the right system at the right time right so the parasitic mind was what was a treatise on
00:45:06.920
what happens to our cognitive system when it is parasitized suicidal empathy which is my next book is
00:45:14.280
what happens to our emotional system when it is parasitized so once you've explained both of these things
00:45:21.240
then you've fully explained the zombification phenomenon and so what i get into in the book
00:45:27.240
which i'm currently writing uh feverishly because uh actually i'm only supposed to remit the first draft
00:45:36.360
in march 2026 so i had plenty of time but when elon musk keeps writing you saying we need this book asap
00:45:47.400
you kind of increase the speed at which you're writing so hopefully i can uh deliver it in your
00:45:53.880
beautiful hands sooner than then and so what i basically do in this in this book is i argue that
00:45:59.640
look empathy is a perfectly adaptive emotion that's fine we are a social species and we've evolved
00:46:07.000
positive emotions because they contribute to our sociality so it's not as though this is a treatise
00:46:13.240
against empathy but like anything in life like aristotle explained to us at the right place to
00:46:20.120
the right people at the right amount so suicidal empathy is what happens when the empathy module
00:46:28.360
misfires it becomes misguided it targets the wrong people it becomes hyperactive and so on guatemalan
00:46:36.360
illegal immigrants are more important than american vets nobody is saying that guatemalan
00:46:42.040
people should not have a right to live lives uh you know flourishing lives but that doesn't mean that
00:46:48.040
we've evolved the emotional calculus to care more about them than our children right i've evolved the
00:46:55.240
emotional calculus that i'm much more likely to jump to save my biological children if there's a truck
00:47:02.120
hurling at them than i am to save a random person that doesn't make me callous i'd like to also save
00:47:07.320
the random children but that's not how evolution works and so what suicidal empathy does is it goes
00:47:13.080
through all of the craziness that we're seeing in the west and argue that the great majority of it is
00:47:20.520
due to this hyper activation activation of of empathy and so stay tuned for that one and and i'm i'm actually
00:47:28.760
astonished because the the kind of viral that i've gotten from like now i can literally go on social
00:47:36.520
media and i will see the term suicidal empathy and my explanations in like 40 languages and the book
00:47:42.520
nobody's ever read the book yet so it's it looks promising so i'm almost done and i think i'm going to
00:47:57.320
save our universities i have 12 items here number one pursue knowledge unencumbered by ideological
00:48:08.040
activism no knowledge is forbidden if gathered objectively using the scientific method forbidden
00:48:13.400
knowledge is a very very dangerous thing because the pursuit of truth should be deontological not
00:48:19.560
consequentialist right so it shouldn't be i will pursue knowledge as long as it doesn't hurt someone's
00:48:26.040
feeling no if i pursue it in an unbiased manner if i am a honest adherent to the scientific method
00:48:33.880
so be it right freedom of speech freedom of inquiry and the pursuit of truth are deontological
00:48:40.040
principles for those of you who don't know the term deontological is an absolute statement right it is
00:48:45.560
never okay to lie would be deontological statement a consequentialist statement would be it is okay to
00:48:51.960
lie if i wish to spare someone's feelings right and so i often tell people if you wish to have a
00:48:58.680
successful long-standing marriage if you hear the following question put on your consequentialist hat
00:49:05.880
do i look fat in those jeans this is an example where using a consequentialist ethic makes perfect
00:49:13.960
sense for many things we will put on a consequentialist hat and it perfectly makes sense but not for freedom
00:49:20.600
of speech not for freedom of inquiry not for the pursuit of truth you don't modulate on that
00:49:28.440
of course no more identity politics and victimology and so on now now to some extent you guys are kind of
00:49:34.920
getting out of getting out of that nightmare but uh those those parasites are still there those ideological
00:49:41.400
parasites no more coddling of the culture of offense and perpetual victimhood and so on
00:49:49.320
just to show you here as relating to this point this is from evolutionary medicine so in evolutionary
00:49:57.400
medicine there is the principle of the hygiene hypothesis the hygiene hypothesis is what explains
00:50:04.840
why kids who grow up in allergen rich environments end up having fewer autoimmune disorders like let's
00:50:15.400
say asthma why because your immune system requires exposure to those allergens in order to maximally
00:50:24.600
trigger it so that it can respond optimally so if you have parents who are both obsessive compulsive
00:50:33.080
who sterilize everything that increases your chances for asthma why am i saying this because apply this
00:50:40.040
mechanism now instead of clearing all allergens clearing this university from opposing ideas well then you're
00:50:47.880
doing a disservice to my mind because my mind evolved to be exposed to allergens in this case opposing
00:50:55.240
ideas that makes me a better debater to hear your stuff so i can hone my arguments now of course i don't need
00:51:00.600
to tell this to the people in this room the existence of the university is based on the recognition of what
00:51:06.040
i'm saying here but of course not at the 99.9 percent of other universities
00:51:13.000
a just society is rooted in the ethos of a meritocracy we are not social ants i mentioned this earlier in
00:51:19.080
one of my meetings uh eo wilson who is a uh entomologist at harvard recently passed away uh ants
00:51:29.640
are communistic right there is a reproductive queen and then all the other ants are indistinguishable
00:51:35.400
worker ants or warrior ants so it makes sense for communism to exist an equality of outcomes to exist for
00:51:41.640
ants when he was asked professor wilson what do you think about uh communism socialism his answer
00:51:49.320
was one of the most beautiful i've ever heard great idea wrong species meaning that human nature
00:51:56.280
does not afford the possibility for flourishing under communism because we are not social ants
00:52:03.560
we need meritocracy promote an ethos of intellectual and political diversity of course we all know this
00:52:09.880
here's a slide i don't know if some of you have seen this i discussed this in the parasitic mind
00:52:15.240
this is the ratio of democrat to republican professors as a function of the discipline now even the best
00:52:25.000
least lopsided field is 1.6 to 1. now in other areas of science that would be a huge effect right
00:52:34.120
because if you have for example an odds ratio of 1.2 to 1 that means it's 20 percent more that
00:52:39.720
the efficacy of that drug is high so the least lopsided would be astoundingly high statistically
00:52:47.880
significant effect but now look as we get into the activist field 133 to 1 89 to 0 whatever it is
00:52:56.920
now you are really cheating the students in this case because there are some things where your
00:53:01.880
political orientation doesn't matter the theory of evolution is the theory of evolution whether you're
00:53:06.040
democrat or republican but if we want to discuss the pros and cons of the death penalty there are
00:53:11.880
really compelling arguments on both sides of the aisle and i as a student want to hear about it and so
00:53:17.240
by having this kind of lopsidedness you are literally cheating the minds of all of those students
00:53:24.120
all ideas beliefs ideologies are open to criticism debate mocking yes mocking ridicule satire nothing is
00:53:41.080
this is the last slide number eight promote an ethos of interdisciplinarity consilience and
00:53:46.360
methodological pluralism i hinted at that earlier of course this this university is very much
00:53:52.840
founded on an ethos of interdisciplinary consilience as i mentioned earlier is about unity of knowledge
00:53:57.880
all of the big breakthroughs in science always happen at the intersection of disciplines because
00:54:04.760
typically the problem is so big and otherwise intractable that if you don't have expertise in
00:54:09.800
many areas you won't be able to crack it so yes teach people to be specialists but also teach them to be
00:54:16.040
big synthetic thinkers that's also very important encourage bold thinking academia should be about
00:54:23.880
the forming of intellectual navy seals and not bean counters uh i'm sorry to say i know that there are
00:54:32.040
colleagues here but which of course it doesn't apply to you i i often joke that i have discovered a new
00:54:37.400
subspecies of human they're called the invertebrate castrati and they're also called professors because they
00:54:44.600
have no spine and they have no testicular fortitude that's and i i apply that to the women too because
00:54:51.720
as we know some women do have testicles so so you want intellectual navy seals that doesn't mean you're
00:55:02.360
impolite that doesn't mean you're acerbic that you're cantankerous it but it means that let's get
00:55:09.720
into the ring and let's debate ideas that's what i'm here for that's what i signed up for i'm an
00:55:13.880
intellectual i want to discuss ideas and that's what we should be teaching our students strike
00:55:19.080
the right balance between specialization and generalization now these are not related to
00:55:24.360
parasitic stuff but i thought they were really relevant uh remove the stifling bureaucracies in
00:55:29.640
academia implement something akin to doge within institutions when i now teach courses where i do
00:55:36.360
do research projects in classrooms we have to go through ethical clearance as if we were
00:55:43.720
you know splitting the atom that doesn't make sense you don't need that kind of i will teach you the
00:55:49.960
ethical requirements in the course and i'll clear them but now apparently there needs to be a third
00:55:54.840
party to clear that and so it only gets more burdensome innovation is uh universities is where
00:56:01.480
innovation typically goes to die and then finally science reason logic and a commitment to evidence
00:56:07.800
based thinking trump ideology hurt feelings and fashionable anti-science full intellectual gibberish
00:56:30.040
okay here we go thank you very much for the presentation the biggest example of a mind being
00:56:39.080
parasitized live that i've seen over the past several years um has been sam harris uh don't don't get me
00:56:47.000
going on i remember following him years ago and and being kind of i had a high respect for him uh my
00:56:56.280
family was was pretty entranced by his ideas and what he said um and over the past couple of years has kind
00:57:01.080
of fallen off a cliff yeah how do you prevent yourself from becoming like sam harris uh so just for for
00:57:11.160
those of you who don't know sam harris was one of the four horsemen of atheism along with christopher
00:57:19.160
hitchens who's a you know big intellectual uh richard dawkins uh daniel dennett who's an evolutionary
00:57:25.560
philosopher and sam because sam had written some books that were sort of anti-religion so on
00:57:30.920
and uh in the past 99 of what sam would have said i would have agreed with and i actually faced a
00:57:38.840
a bit of i'm sharing some personal stuff here i shared i i faced a bit of a personal conundrum
00:57:44.920
because as he became truly the exemplar of trump derangement syndrome but at a level that's almost
00:57:50.840
impossible to emulate i was torn because i know sam you know he invited me on a show we've had dinner
00:57:58.200
together i know i would say he's a friend but i know him and my middle eastern heritage required
00:58:05.240
me to be a bit more gentle in in you know in in dealing with his nonsense because i knew him and so
00:58:12.920
on but then i started feeling that if i gave him a full pass i would be inauthentic to truth and so after
00:58:22.040
biting my tongue for about four years i decided to come after him in a jocular manner he didn't like
00:58:28.440
it he blocked me whatever and then i said okay all bets are off and then i went after him i don't know
00:58:34.360
if there's a singular way to not become sam harris but elon musk said in a tweet he goes you know sam there is
00:58:43.160
too much meditation that can happen so maybe the lesson i'm being a bit facetious is uh it's an
00:58:52.280
inverted u-shape of meditation too little is not good maybe too much is not good find the sweet spot
00:58:58.280
as aristotle told us thank you one quick follow-up should we invade canada and buy greenland
00:59:03.720
so i put out a tweet where i tagged donald trump and i said dear uh donald trump uh please can you
00:59:12.040
invade canada you won't need more than four to six soldiers hold on a hundred people wrote stuff to
00:59:21.800
my university that i be fired because i had engaged in sedition and treason imagine being so humorless
00:59:33.160
as to use that as the launching pad to get me fired always maintain humor thank you very much
00:59:41.640
thank you cheers all right um thank you for the talk you talked a lot about how a parasite will
00:59:49.080
take some aspect of its host and then use that to derive some benefit you talked a lot about how
00:59:54.360
the bad parts of that like the the intellectual parasites that take rationality but not necessarily
00:59:59.640
about what they gain in return or what the person who has this parasite um robin hansen thinks of
01:00:05.000
this as sort of like a luxury belief that provides some sort of selection uh and then there's also
01:00:11.240
what's it uh okay i blanked on it or oh no uh mark andreason thinks of it as sort of like a religious
01:00:16.840
impulse that gets fulfilled how do you think of the evolutionary benefit a parasite gets so i'm not
01:00:22.920
sure that i can offer an evolutionary explanation for these ideological parasites although if if pressed
01:00:29.080
i probably could but i'll offer maybe approximate explanation so i argue that these ideological parasites
01:00:37.160
uh achieve two things number one they free us from the pesky shackles of reality right and that could
01:00:45.560
be very liberating so for example i don't know if i mentioned to somebody in this meeting social
01:00:50.280
constructivism is very liberating because it basically says we are all born tabula rasa and it's only the
01:00:56.840
specific schedule of reinforcement of socialization that makes me become leonel mussy or michael jordan or
01:01:03.080
albert einstein well if i'm a parent i want to sign up for that ideological parasite because i don't
01:01:08.760
want to believe that my son might be height constrained that he may not be the next nba star
01:01:16.200
so maybe if i hug him enough or maybe not hug him too much he could be the next michael jordan so
01:01:21.560
that's a very compelling parasite for me to hold right so that's one the second thing is that all of
01:01:29.240
these ideological parasites start off with a noble cause which then metamorphosizes into nonsense into
01:01:37.480
the in the service of that cause so for example equity feminism is a great idea it says that men and
01:01:43.400
women should be treated equally under the law but then radical feminists come along and say that's
01:01:47.320
not enough we now have to promulgate the idea that men and women are indistinguishable from each other
01:01:52.520
in order to squash the patriarchy so it starts off as a noble goal that then sinks into the abyss of
01:01:59.640
infinite lunacy so those would be the two arguments in terms of the benefits that are derived from these
01:02:04.600
ideological parasites hi professor saad hi there so it seems that our current era were overtaken by
01:02:11.080
parasites and it seems unimaginable that there could be an era in which this was not the case are there
01:02:17.400
examples of times when people are more resistant to parasites and if so how does that happen so i think
01:02:25.080
i mentioned in our in our student meeting that the capacity for the human mind to be parasitized
01:02:33.720
is an indelible part of the architecture of the human mind so so as i mentioned the example and i'll just
01:02:40.120
repeat it here there was a time 300 years ago where in salem massachusetts it was a very very good idea
01:02:47.800
if you thought that your neighbor was a witch to throw her in water and if she swam she was a witch
01:02:52.280
and if she drowned she wasn't a witch and people genuinely believe that and organize their lives around
01:02:57.560
that parasitic idea but then we grew out of that one so i don't think on a theoretical level i could think
01:03:06.440
of a time period or an ecosystem where all inhabitants within that ecosystem were magically free of
01:03:14.680
parasitic ideas no that is an indelible part of the human mind what is unique to this period are the
01:03:21.800
specific idea parasites post-modernism did not exist in the salem witch hunts cultural relativism didn't so
01:03:29.160
what's unique is the specific cocktail of these parasitic ideas that have destroyed our edifices of reason
01:03:36.440
thank you thank you first why wasn't your car study in 2012 published or finished and second what does
01:03:50.200
but you you think that i'm pursuing the owning the liberals based on your twitter account yes yeah
01:03:56.440
you need to read it more carefully uh i own the truth i defend the truth to the extent that liberals are
01:04:09.080
espousing and promulgating ideas that are nonsensical i go after them i live in the university ecosystem
01:04:16.520
each of these parasitic ideas stem from academia academia is almost exclusively run by liberals and
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progressives hence i go after them so i don't own the liberals i attack stupid ideas which in my case
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involve attacking leftist ideas that doesn't mean that people on the right can't be parasitized so for
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example when it comes to evolution just the theory of evolution it is the right that usually gets angry
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about evolution but when it comes to the application of evolution to the human mind it is the left that
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doesn't like that idea so there is nothing inherent about why leftists or people on the right are more
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or less likely but the specific parasites that i'm talking about are all leftist nonsense okay thank you
01:05:10.920
thank you thank you for your remarks um i hope ben crocker doesn't get mad at me for this question
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i've heard you speak elsewhere about the evolutionary concept of a sneaky fucker yes um can you tell us
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what this is how they might be identified and how they might be dealt with yes in a small community of 87
01:05:28.840
students right so so the the the theory of the sneaky fucker is a zoological theory that comes out of
01:05:39.880
uh 1970s zoology the formal term although literally sneaky fucker is used the formal term is kleptogamy
01:05:52.200
which is the stealing of mating opportunities so this is what what happens is for example you have a
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species of fish where there are two phenotypes of males there is a typical male that looks like a
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male fish there is another male fish that actually mimics female morphology so by by tricking the male
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guardian into thinking that this one is a female he lets him go through and then he sneakily copulates
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with all the females so that theory existed in the 1970s so what i did my contribution to that literature
01:06:35.640
is i argued that male feminists are pursuing a sneaky fucker strategy right i am very kind i wear a
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i cry when the tree gets oh sorry right i'm i'm very empathetic when i get into my car and i turn on the
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thing i start crying because i'm raping mother earth with the evil juice of gas right so so all of those
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things makes me really empathetic less threatening maybe i can get close to linda over here so that
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she could think i'm not threatening and then hopefully good things happen and so that's the theory thank
01:07:21.320
when you talk about the 117 billion people who have all held that a man is one thing a woman is something
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else and give that as a reason why it's sort of absurd for us to question that idea doesn't that
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seem kind of conforming and anti-free thought to say that just because something has been considered
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true that it can't now be considered otherwise i mean if your standard for questioning things
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is whether male female reality exists in a sexually reproducing species maybe you're questioning a bit too
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much right so in other words no one is saying question whatever you want but 117 billion people
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have been able to navigate through that conundrum very successfully so for example when i chose to
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start a family with my wife did i guess that she's a woman and it just turned out good things happen and we
01:08:14.760
had children what about your parents what about the hundred say so that we need to question no you don't
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question that you don't question that any more than jumping off the empire state building would be
01:08:26.120
something that an open-minded person would do to question gravity so this would be different than
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say when we used to think that the earth was the center of the universe and then they criticized
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galileo for claiming that because that's something that they guessed yes whereas we have empirical evidence
01:08:42.680
uh so to your point it is true that in science all truths are provisional meaning that it is true
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that you have to have the epistemic humility to say what is true today if incoming evidence comes in
01:08:57.960
that falsifies it so be it so you're absolutely right it's not revealed truths as you would have
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in religion so yes be epistemologically humble but i don't think that that would apply to questioning
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whether it's a it's we're being too conservative in thinking we know what male or female is it
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literally is the definitional characteristic of a sexually reproducing species so we need to quickly
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go tell charles darwin that he was a buffoon and that his sexual selection theory was completely
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wrong-headed because we need to question what's male or female thank you thank you sir
01:09:35.960
thank you for your wonderful insights i really appreciate you coming here
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my mom's a mcgill grad so i'm very familiar with canada ah i'm curious how does parenting fit
01:09:46.120
into this whole situation which situation you mean in terms of what you do with your children to try
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to inoculate them and so on how does parenting stem into the parasitic mind so i don't know if what
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i'm going to answer speaks to what you're asking i would say you have to be a present parent so for
01:10:04.840
example having me as their father has served as a good mind vaccine for my children right
01:10:12.600
but not only that when my daughter or son would come home from elementary school and there was some
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insane thing that was said in their class i would write an email politely like i wasn't being a root but
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very polite email i wasn't pulling rank or anything i'd say please explain this right and so i think
01:10:32.360
you just have to be present and make you know speak to your children and and then good things happen
01:10:37.640
i mean my i truly believe that my children are impervious to all this nonsense now yes it's because
01:10:45.080
they're my children but uh because i i engage them i'm constant i don't like to i've never baby talked my
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children i'm very very loving to them i'm very uh nurturing but i never do the cootsie cootsie i mean i i've
01:11:00.760
walked with my nine-year-old child then he's 13 now and we talk about libertarianism and actually i
01:11:08.520
remember the exact conversation uh i was crossing a street and there was a young cop cadet that was
01:11:15.480
standing there giving out tickets for people who crossed other than when it's the thing says that you're
01:11:24.600
allowed to cross so at the time so this would be three four years ago so then i would be 57 years old
01:11:30.440
so i was 57 years old i had gone through the lebanese civil war but i didn't have the cognitive acuity
01:11:37.720
to look in a residential neighborhood on a one-way street oh are there any cars coming no i've got the
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freedom to be able to cross the street so i had because otherwise i would get a 90 ticket for jaywalking
01:11:51.800
and that launched me into a 20-minute lecture on intrusion of government he was nine so i think
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that the way you handle that those issues is you engage your children don't treat them like little
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idiots they're they're they're hungry to have knowledge thank you cheers hello thank you for your
01:12:12.120
time and a big fan of your work thank you sir um i was wondering you sort of pointed out some of the
01:12:18.120
negative things not to do in creating university if you were to create a university based on your
01:12:23.400
experience and your research both in academia and on evolution how do you create systems to draw out
01:12:29.800
excellence and to really create an environment conducive to producing great work it's a big
01:12:35.960
question that would require i mean off the top of my head i would say encourage bold thinking a lot of
01:12:42.680
uh academic so i'm going to answer it from the academic perspective but i can also answer it from
01:12:48.520
a student perspective uh a lot of academics play the game of publication right so it's i learn a
01:12:56.840
methodology i'm very good at it i develop economies of scale within that literature that allows me to pump
01:13:04.920
out 74 papers that no one will read that no one will care about that no one will cite but i will have
01:13:12.200
a good cv that will get me tenure and then full professor and so on that doesn't promote bold
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risk intellectual risk a lot intellectual navy so i think what i would like to see more in academia
01:13:26.840
is the rewarding of you know big broad synthetic thinking rather than small minutiae plus delta
01:13:33.560
epsilon now that's still necessary that you do need hyper specialists but uh you know i love i mean
01:13:40.520
what what i've seen today of university of austin is there definitely is an ethos of interdisciplinarity
01:13:46.360
that excites me i i spoke to people that you would think in other universities i would never sit down
01:13:52.600
with because we would be siloed architecturally in completely different buildings i'd never talk about
01:13:58.520
their interest in plato and so on so i would love to be immersed in an environment that's fertile with
01:14:05.480
ideas bold thinking and hopefully good things happen thank you very much thank you sir hey there thank you
01:14:12.360
for being here um you brought up identity politics a lot throughout your lecture and uh citing it as like
01:14:18.200
a negative thing which uh sort of a symptom of a lot of our cultural decay and institutional decay
01:14:24.520
uh but then you also uh criticized um i think her name was anna epstein for uh
01:14:32.280
opposing israel and supporting palestine supporting hamas i believe the phrase you used
01:14:37.800
was attempting to transcend her tribalism which does seem like uh i just have like a hard time
01:14:44.760
reconciling those two positions so i'm not sure what you're asking but let me address it in a general way
01:14:50.440
uh it is it is a feature of the human mind to succumb to coalitional psychology so that is true so in
01:14:59.640
other words there is an innate pension for us to be tribal right so if you you look at the abrahamic
01:15:06.280
religions they're all structured on an us versus them blue team red team so it is true that we do view
01:15:14.920
the world through the lens of us versus them the problem with identity politics it then it then says
01:15:21.480
we're going to adjudicate different decisions based on your identity so i am lebanese jew i talk about that
01:15:29.320
in chapter one because i went through some horrific periods that is part of my identity so i am invoking
01:15:35.080
my identity but i didn't come here and say hey university of austin you must give me the job that i want
01:15:42.840
because of my identity right i present myself to the world as ghat sad part of ghat sad is that i
01:15:49.000
happen to have that heritage but i'm not owed anything for that heritage that's the problem
01:15:53.720
identity politics so yes view the world through coalitional eyes right we either love the detroit
01:15:59.640
lions or we hate the detroit lions there are two types of people in the world so it's okay to be
01:16:03.960
coalitional just don't expect that we're going to met out rewards based on your identity okay thank you
01:16:12.840
first of all thank you for your time this has been extremely fascinating my my question is short but
01:16:19.160
it may be a long answer is we've talked so much about the parasitic mind is there a cure if so what
01:16:25.560
is it well there are several several mind vaccines and i i go through them in the book one of which is
01:16:32.120
that remember the nomological network that i put up right so the nomological network is an effortful cure
01:16:40.840
because it requires a lot of effort to build that network but it then protects you against nonsense
01:16:47.320
right so imagine hundreds of thousands of generations of students have gone through psychology departments
01:16:56.600
where they were taught that all these sex differences are socially constructed i challenge any social
01:17:03.240
constructivist to watch that uh nomological network and stick to that position so uh the the mind vaccine
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is not just a quick prick and it's gone it's effortful but there are absolute ways for you to uh be inoculated
01:17:19.640
awesome thank you sir thank you hi there hello um i my question is we were discussing a little bit earlier
01:17:26.840
there's a variance of people in personalities and one of your examples specifically that stuck out to
01:17:32.760
me about the children's toy preferences is something to do with personality and so there is some amount
01:17:39.960
of variation of sure toy preferences and also i think this question can be more broad is there any harm to
01:17:47.400
having a typical toy preference no harm whatever no absolutely uh so this is not saying it's not a
01:17:57.000
normative statement boys should prefer deep boys girls should prefer that it's simply questioning the
01:18:04.520
position that says that to the extent that there are very predictable sex specific patterns and toy
01:18:12.200
preferences are those due to social construction or is there a inerrant universal biological based reason
01:18:20.120
for those without casting any judgment to the millions of boys who have sex role reversals of toy
01:18:26.840
preferences and girls so there's no normative judgment but there is a judgment as to the veracity of the
01:18:32.360
position are they due to social construction or biology and that nomological network says it's absolutely
01:18:38.200
biology thank you thank you hello thank you for your time super super super interesting um yeah three
01:18:46.280
supers suit three supers wow yeah so uh my question i feel like many people on the right kind of look at
01:18:54.520
the crazy five percent of the left and kind of believe that's like the entire 50 of the left including the
01:19:05.000
moderate left what do you have to say about that i'll maybe i'll give an analogy how many uh terrorists
01:19:12.120
did it take to alter the new york city skyline not a lot it wasn't 190 million it wasn't 190 000 it wasn't
01:19:22.360
19 000 it was 19 so it doesn't take too many people to take us to the abyss of infinite lunacy right so i don't
01:19:31.160
care if the number is five percent or twelve percent they are the ones who control for much of the
01:19:37.640
past 80 years all of the institutions of the intelligentsia and so it is absolutely true that
01:19:45.400
most students at any university even at the most woke university don't walk around with blue hair
01:19:51.160
you know crying because a tree was cut that's fine but the ones who do keep the rest of us in check
01:19:58.440
right i mean not me but in general right so so so i'm not very sympathetic to the idea that come
01:20:06.200
on but it's only five percent that five percent can cause a lot of damage that five percent becomes
01:20:10.600
our prime minister so okay thank you thank you sir yep my question is do you think that this sort of
01:20:17.240
crybaby parasite is going to inevitably continue because we're reading rousseau right now and he's
01:20:23.080
talked a lot about how science and learning softens us and like technology softens us and so you know
01:20:29.080
with automation and with academia the two a's when they come together is there any way that you know
01:20:35.880
this softening can really so that by when you say the crybaby parasite you mean like the victimology
01:20:41.000
narrative yeah like very soft yeah i mean i don't know if i can link that to technology i mean what i can
01:20:47.960
i do have several theories some of which i discuss in the parasitic mind so i talk about the homeostasis
01:20:55.880
of victimology do you know what a homeostatic system is so like your your uh temperature gauge in your
01:21:03.000
their thermostat in your hotel room is a homeostatic system right i set it at 72 if it gets too hot it cools
01:21:09.960
it if it gets too cold it heats it right many things in our bodies are homeostatic systems if my blood
01:21:16.120
sugar goes down i will engage to get food to then re-equilibrate right so i argue that what's
01:21:23.240
happened regrettably in the west is a form of homeostasis of victimology which is there is a
01:21:29.000
set threshold of victimology that i must adhere to and if i can't find it i will then create full
01:21:37.880
victimhood so jussie smollett was a perfect manifestation of that phenomenon do you know who that is
01:21:44.520
that just anybody know who yes so he's the actor who was making i don't know a million dollars uh an
01:21:52.280
episode i mean maybe a b or c level actor but he had succeeded he had everything he's living in the
01:21:57.960
freest country in the history of the world but that wasn't enough because he didn't have the most
01:22:03.240
important metric which was a compelling story of victimhood and therefore no problem i manufacture one
01:22:09.880
so i don't know if i could link it to victimology but uh to to technology but it's a dreadful way to
01:22:16.360
organize society because if anybody has a right to claim that they have been victimized it is the one
01:22:24.040
that you're speaking to right now if you saw the childhood that i had in lebanon and yet one of the
01:22:29.800
things that i'm most proud of is that i have overcome my victim narrative i'm standing here in front
01:22:35.720
of you so yes my past is part of who i am but i don't dwell on it as a matter of fact i want to
01:22:41.800
seek revenge on it by having a successful fruitful life yeah just to add something really quick like
01:22:48.600
i just wonder if it's sort of an inevitable stage of a democracy like or a place where there's a lot
01:22:54.760
of liberty and freedom because like people just lose that certainty of things of themselves yes so there
01:23:01.320
is a similar argument when it comes to for example anorexia nervosa anorexia nervosa you'll never find
01:23:08.920
it in countries of scarcity because people are too concerned about actually getting food to then have the
01:23:18.040
luxury of succumbing because you understand what i'm saying so it happens in cultures of plentitude
01:23:25.080
that you get anorexia and so to your point i think it's something similar victimology narratives is
01:23:32.120
not something that happens to ethiopians during their endemic famines but it happens in the west
01:23:38.200
where we've become flabby and fat thank you thank you i just want to thank you for the speech this is
01:23:46.280
definitely one of the most interesting ones one of if not the most interesting one we've had at uatx
01:23:53.320
um my question pertains to like this list of items on the screen um on the previous slide the first
01:23:59.480
one you mentioned um you want me to go to it um sure we can
01:24:07.080
that the pursuit of knowledge um it's the first one yeah no knowledge pursue knowledge unencumbered by
01:24:12.760
ideological activism no knowledge is forbidden if gathered objectively using the scientific method yes
01:24:17.800
so regarding the objectively and scientific method part do you believe it is possible to gather information
01:24:23.000
objectively and two is the only information that um is not off limits is that that we can gather
01:24:29.880
through the scientific method the scientific method is the only game in town epistemologically
01:24:34.680
speaking there are no other ways of knowing uh and can you do it objectively yes i i've made a career
01:24:41.720
doing it i'm sure many other people have here that doesn't mean that you don't have personal biases in
01:24:47.720
the types of research problems you might be interested in or something but can i actually design an
01:24:54.440
experiment to test the hypothesis fully devoid of any biases yes i've done it for 31 years okay so for
01:25:02.680
example when it comes to the study with testosterone right i mean we take the salivary assays we send them
01:25:09.560
to a lab they measure it where did my bias get in there is no bias so absolutely there's a way the problem
01:25:16.200
arises where certain fields become more about the activism than the pursuit of truth so sociology is
01:25:25.800
not inherently a non-scientific discipline right there are there are very good academics who can pursue
01:25:33.160
really important sociological problems the problem with sociology is that it views its main reason
01:25:39.160
death as activism that's what not what it should be the pursuit of truth is not about activism it's about
01:25:45.640
uncovering the truth thank you very much thank you oh i know this guy thank you professor sad i just
01:25:51.160
want to second what many of the students have said this has been great talk i really appreciate you
01:25:54.680
coming here um i have a sarcastic but still serious question uh you mentioned was it in a published paper
01:26:01.640
that someone made the argument that the idf's hesitancy to rape palestinians was a sign of their
01:26:08.200
inclination to other it was so i don't know if she ended up publishing it i think it might have been part of
01:26:13.080
her doctoral dissertation but it's easy to track her her name is talen itzaim she was a doctoral student
01:26:18.600
at hebrew university i'm just curious whether anybody has argued the opposite thing that for
01:26:22.760
example all of the rapes that took place on october 7th and surely since then to all the hostages
01:26:28.760
uh is uh evidence of the gazans solidarity with um the israeli people i see the sarcasm no i haven't
01:26:37.000
heard that one but let's i mean it logically would follow from the same kind of premise right i mean
01:26:41.640
that makes sense yes uh i haven't heard it but uh it's only a matter of time i like how you're
01:26:45.880
thinking yes thank you thank you for your very enjoyable talk thank you uh what you're wearing
01:26:51.240
right there would get you into a big trouble at my university i would refrain from wearing that if
01:26:56.520
you come to gaza university i'll be careful my question is so you showed us a lot of studies
01:27:02.760
and obviously we can see where humans think fallibly and we have we misconstrue things in our head how
01:27:10.040
effective is that if you told everybody how effective would that be in making them think
01:27:15.160
more rationally or more toward i hate to pat myself on the back very effective so it depends
01:27:21.240
how you measure effectiveness if it's a hundred people have listened to my message and it needs
01:27:27.720
to be that i flip 95 of them then it hasn't been effective but if have i had thousands of people
01:27:37.080
write to me and say you freed me from my nonsense yes so it depends how you measure success in my
01:27:44.680
view even if i'm able to flip one person from the uh constraints of parasitic thinking i've done a
01:27:50.840
good job and i can assure you there's been probably many hundreds of thousands thank you thank you thank
01:27:56.920
you for your time that you've given us thank you give this wonderful talk my question is that um
01:28:02.840
um the president recently signed an executive order saying that there are legally now only two
01:28:07.880
genders so what do you think of the uh practicality of that on passports for people born intersex and
01:28:14.520
for men who transition to women and you know have breasts and a feminine face and a feminine waist but i
01:28:20.840
mean literally in the context of the passport or well for passports but also for other things do you
01:28:26.680
do you think that's practical for like i get yeah now no longer says x on a passport that makes sense
01:28:32.280
to me or the uh new pronouns like or whatever but yeah for specifically for transgenders and intersex
01:28:40.120
people do you think that's practical so maybe i'll answer in this way a lot of people misconstrued
01:28:45.880
so that do you guys know who jordan peterson is yes so jordan is a good good friend of mine and of
01:28:51.640
course he got caught up in the gender pronoun stuff and when we both appeared in front of the
01:28:57.320
canadian senate to talk about these things a lot of people wrongly thought that somehow we're these
01:29:02.520
like monsters who are non-empathetic who are going to misgender someone that's not at all what we're
01:29:09.240
arguing right so i do want to do everything i can to make someone feel comfortable and if i can do it
01:29:16.120
i'll i'm happy to do it that can't come at the cost of the rights of others so for example
01:29:24.360
no we shouldn't have the removal of the binary male or female because there might be someone who's
01:29:30.520
non-binary because they may constitute one out of ten thousand no i'm not called a cis male i'm male
01:29:38.120
and my wife is female and my daughter is female and my son is male i don't need to put new
01:29:44.760
uh prefixes to in order to be gentle to you so i can be a kind person without murdering and raping
01:29:52.440
truth so that gives you a general framework under which i look at all these things so if there is a
01:29:57.240
way to resolve the passport issue to make those people feel comfortable fine but it can't come at
01:30:03.240
the detriment of my biological marker which is i am male thank you thank you how do you think that zionism
01:30:10.760
is not a form of identity politics when it's like one of the most binding factors on the right
01:30:16.040
especially right now the fact that you hold to an identity doesn't mean that you're supporting identity
01:30:22.440
politics if i said people who live in israel and if they come to mit should have preferential treatment
01:30:31.640
in admissions that's identity politics if you say you're wearing a cross right that cross is advertising
01:30:40.440
your identity but and that's perfectly fine but you're not then saying because i'm wearing that cross
01:30:47.560
give me unique preference over the other people in this room who are not wearing that cross so no one
01:30:53.560
is questioning the fact as i mentioned to one of the earlier people that identity formation is part of
01:31:00.120
who we are so i am lebanese jew and i'm happy with that but i don't deserve any accolades or any
01:31:08.520
punishments for that identity if i lived in lebanon my head goes out if i at that identity so that's all i'm
01:31:15.320
saying so zionism of course it is identity based but the argument is that there are 56 islamic countries that
01:31:23.160
exist around the world precisely because they are organized around the islamic faith surely a people
01:31:30.120
that have had a right to that land for thousands of years could have a region the size of new jersey
01:31:36.920
that they call their own that's all it is that doesn't mean that in my supporting the right of
01:31:41.560
israel to exist i am being uh contradictory because i rail against identity politics does that make sense
01:31:49.000
yeah but wouldn't that be converging like identity politics and dei because there's a difference for
01:31:53.960
sure you're like claiming that you get something because because of your identity compared to binding
01:31:59.400
together with other people like let's say on the right wing if you're not a zionist that would still be
01:32:03.960
like people would push you away from their groups because you're not a part of their identity so the
01:32:08.360
question is what so wouldn't that be identity politics like if you're a white right winger and someone
01:32:13.720
isn't a zionist you push them away which happens yeah identity politics as i uh rail against is the use
01:32:22.040
of your identity in adjudicating limited resources there there are 17 places to get into mit we should
01:32:31.720
pick the best students it shouldn't be because you are this or that that's identity politics that doesn't
01:32:39.560
mean that the 17 people that we pick don't have identities that define them right so railing
01:32:46.920
against identity politics doesn't mean that personal identity cease to exist all that it means is don't
01:32:54.120
use that identity to either punish others or reward others that's all thank you sir thank you yeah it's an
01:33:01.640
honor to meet you and have you here at our university sir um i with my question i kind of wanted to bring
01:33:07.560
it back to a little bit to you and your your personal story um aside from the islamic component of the
01:33:15.080
lebanese civil war which you grew up in do you have any are there any lessons or takeaways from that that
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you yes it actually ties in with the previous gentleman on identity politics the reason why i
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in chapter one i spent so much time discussing my background in lebanon is because i'm using it as
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the perfect exemplar of what happens to a society that is wholly organized along identity politics how
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in lebanon you have an internal id akin to like a passport that if the cops stop you they say show me
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your in arabic you say how we okay that card they don't care about your height or your eye color or your
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weight you know what's the number the number one most conspicuous thing on that card what do you
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think it is religion yes and if you are jewish it wasn't written jewish it was so in arabic jewish is
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yahudi and it was written israeli israeli means israelite so even though i'm fully lebanese i've got
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nothing to do with israel you're already creating animus against me because i'm an israelite i'm not lebanese
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the the parliament is organized it's called the confessional parliament it's organized along
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religious lines the prime minister has to be of a given religion always the president is of another religion
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always the speaker of the house is of another religion always and then the other seats in the parliament
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parliament are allocated depending on the importance of that religion so jews had one seat
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in lebanese parliament when there were enough jews so everything in lebanon is viewed through the lens of
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identity politics that only leads to bad things at the extreme that leads to rwanda that leads to iraq
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that leads to syria that leads to the balkans that leads to lebanon so the reason why i discuss my
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identity in that book is because then i want to rail against identity politics and i want to use my
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cautionary tale of what lebanon looked like under identity politics shukram uh he said thank you i said