The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - War is Coming to Every Corner of the West (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Legal Insurrection podcast. I'm Kimberly Kay, and I'm here with the Legal

00:00:10.720 Insurrection Foundation president and founder, William Jacobson. And we have a very special

00:00:15.800 guest. I'm super excited about our episode today and the discussion that we're about to have.

00:00:20.420 We have Dr. Gad Saad, who's currently a visiting professor and global ambassador at Northwood

00:00:26.200 University in Michigan. Professor Saad has pioneered the use of evolutionary psychology

00:00:32.220 in marketing and consumer behavior. His works include The Consuming Instinct, The Evolutionary

00:00:39.300 Basis of Consumption, Evolutionary Psychology, and the Business Sciences, along with more than 75

00:00:46.100 scientific papers, many at the intersection of evolutionary psychology and a broad range of

00:00:52.860 disciplines. His show, The Saad Truth, has garnered nearly 50 million views and downloads, and he's

00:00:59.660 appeared on countless high-profile shows, including 11 times on Joe Rogan's podcast.

00:01:06.180 Elon Musk is an avid supporter of his work, and Dr. Saad often writes and speaks about idea pathogens

00:01:13.500 that are destroying logic, science, reason, and common sense. His fourth book, The Parasitic Mind,

00:01:19.520 was released in 2020. It has since become an international bestseller, and his fifth book,

00:01:25.860 The Saad Truth About Happiness, was released in 2023. And his forthcoming book is entitled

00:01:32.480 Suicidal Empathy. So welcome to our podcast. I'm so excited about this. I have long followed you on

00:01:41.840 Twitter, now X, or whatever it is that we're calling it. And I do want to give a shout out to your book,

00:01:48.620 The Parasitic Mind, which I read very recently, by far one of the best things I've read in a very long

00:01:54.580 time. So to anyone tuning in or listening or watching, definitely take the time to read that.

00:02:03.040 It's very enlightening, even though we work in this space all the time and have for years. I really

00:02:08.440 appreciate your take on some of the things that we'll discuss today. And I really love what you're

00:02:15.980 tweeting and discussing, at least on social media, about suicidal empathy as well. So all of that

00:02:22.080 to say, we're very, very glad to have you here today. Thank you. Great to be with you. I am also

00:02:28.080 thrilled. I do want to give you fair warning, the difference between Kimberly and myself and the

00:02:35.460 questions we may ask. She read your book. I read your tweets. That's the difference in our

00:02:43.640 personalities. And I am thrilled to have you because really, I think many people think of you

00:02:52.660 as kind of Paul Revere, warning that the regulars are coming. Not the British. He didn't say the British

00:02:59.920 are coming. He said the regulars are coming and really warning us. And what prompted me to really

00:03:07.940 follow you more closely than I had been in the past was a tweet. And I think we'll put that tweet

00:03:13.620 up on the screen momentarily. And it was from June of 2024. Remember, war is coming to every corner in the

00:03:23.320 West. It might take five days, five years, or 50 years, but it's coming. The West has committed the

00:03:31.380 greatest self-immolation in human history. Save this post. I did save it. I not only saved it, I wrote a

00:03:40.060 blog post about your tweet. Tell us what you mean by that. I've got my own take, but we'd like to hear

00:03:47.420 yours. Right. So I think one of the difficulties that people have is what I call the ability to

00:03:56.660 extrapolate from current trends, because that oftentimes is very ominous, right? And so one of

00:04:03.140 the things that I talk about in the parasitic mind is what I call ostrich parasitic syndrome, which is,

00:04:08.960 of course, the idea that the ostrich doesn't do this, but it's become a metaphor for someone who wishes

00:04:14.620 to ignore reality, bury your head in the sand, and hopefully the problem goes away.

00:04:19.260 Now, one of the ways that you usually solve a problem is you first recognize that you have the

00:04:23.720 problem, right? I mean, if you go to see your physician and God forbid he or she says that

00:04:28.300 you've got cancer, and your answer is, well, there is no such thing as cancer. And if there is such a

00:04:33.400 thing as cancer, it's probably a Jewish conspiracy. So I'm not going to take it seriously. Well, then you're

00:04:39.060 probably going to die of cancer while you, you know, negate the fact that you have cancer. And so I

00:04:44.360 think that the spirit of that tweet, at least the somber element of it, or the indignant element of

00:04:51.060 it, is that here are these patterns that people should be picking up, but they merely go to the abyss of

00:04:58.400 infinite lunacy, completely unconcerned with what any thinking person should be able to, you know, connect

00:05:05.420 the dots. Look, I get so angry at it that I have to take a deep breath. I come from Lebanon. In Lebanon,

00:05:17.580 everybody lived nice and happily until they didn't, right? But it's because Lebanon had a certain set of

00:05:24.020 realities that the end result could only result in civil war, which is to have a perfectly tribal society

00:05:32.260 where everything is rooted in which religious group you belong to. And for a while, it could go

00:05:39.940 along nice and peacefully, but the end outcome, the extrapolation has to be that you're going to end

00:05:46.180 up in a debauchery of civil war. So when I, when I predicted in five years of 50 years or whatever it is,

00:05:52.720 500 years, all I'm saying is the, the, the markers are playing out in front of our eyes. For example,

00:06:01.680 if you let in millions of people into your country through open door immigration policies,

00:06:07.680 and these people do not share any of your foundational values, it probably doesn't take a

00:06:13.780 fancy professor to put it all together for you. It, now it might take a long time, right? In some

00:06:19.700 cultures, it only takes five seconds for the, you know, thing to blow up. In some cultures, it might

00:06:25.620 take 500 years, but it will happen. And so that's really the general gist of that tweet.

00:06:33.060 And a lot of people want to dance around what the problem is, okay? And I know on Twitter,

00:06:40.900 because that's mostly how I know you, you know, there is a lot about the fact, the, you know,

00:06:46.500 Islamization of Western Europe, particularly, and whether that is, you know, compatible with

00:06:53.300 those societies and people don't want to talk about that. Okay. People are afraid of getting called

00:06:58.900 names. Um, but when I read your, what you're writing, um, it kind of reminds me of Reagan's,

00:07:07.140 you know, rendezvous with destiny speech. You know, we have a rendezvous with destiny. We preserve

00:07:13.300 for our children, this, the last, best hope of man on earth, or we'll sentence them to take the

00:07:19.300 last step into a thousand years of darkness. And that's what I think of when I read a lot of what

00:07:24.420 you tweet, that we are at a point and you see it in Paris, you see it in London, you see it in other

00:07:31.060 places. Um, you know, and you frequently tweet about a 1400 year history that people don't want to

00:07:39.300 address. Um, so perhaps you could explain to the people who will be watching and listening to this,

00:07:45.700 you know, what is our rendezvous with destiny as it's materializing now in your view?

00:07:55.540 So in chapter seven of the parasitic mind, I have, uh, the chapters titled how to seek truth. And at

00:08:02.260 first it's going to seem as though I'm not answering your question, but trust me, believe in the process.

00:08:07.300 I will tie it all together. So nomological networks of cumulative evidence is an epistemological tool

00:08:15.380 that I use when I'm trying to convince my most aggressive interlocutors of a particular position.

00:08:23.620 So for example, if I want to convince you that, uh, toy preferences are not socially constructed,

00:08:29.940 that there is a biological based element to that, how would I go about doing that? Well,

00:08:34.500 I can get you data from around the world, from across time periods, from across species,

00:08:40.740 from across methodologies, all of which triangulate to the fact that there is a universal sex specificity

00:08:47.940 to toy preferences. Now I'm going to take that methodology and apply it to, you know, is Islam

00:08:54.100 a peaceful religion? And hence, do we have 1400 years of history that either supports that it's peaceful or not?

00:09:01.540 Well, in building such a nomological network of cumulative evidence, there's all sorts of data

00:09:06.420 that I can get for you. So for example, I could do a content analysis of the canonical content of the

00:09:13.700 religion to see how often does it call for brotherly love versus kill, kill, kill. There is an answer to

00:09:20.660 that. We could know what it is, right? We don't have to listen to George Bush and Barack Obama telling us that

00:09:26.980 Islam is peaceful. We could look at, historically, how have religious minorities fared once Islam comes

00:09:35.220 in. We could look at data that explore which countries have apostasy death penalties. We could

00:09:44.740 look at data that say in which countries do women have the least amount of freedom. We could look at

00:09:51.140 countries where we see where are gays most likely to be put to death and on and on and on. So I don't

00:09:59.700 have to engage in emotional incontinence or hysteria in order to prove my point. I simply build you a

00:10:07.060 normological network and then hopefully, if you're an intellectually honest person, you will let the

00:10:12.980 evidence sway you one way or the other. So when it comes to meeting our destiny, as per Ronald Reagan's

00:10:22.340 quote, there's really almost nothing as clear, short of the existence of gravity, that where Islam goes,

00:10:32.980 personal freedoms are eroded. Now that doesn't say anything, and I hate to preface this because it

00:10:39.060 really actually offends me. But I'm going to preface it for the imbeciles who might be listening.

00:10:45.540 That says nothing about individual Muslims, right? I am friends with more Muslims than most people will

00:10:53.220 ever meet in their lives. We're talking about Islam as a codified ideology in the same way that we know what

00:11:01.300 communism is or what libertarianism is. Does Islam consist of a set of ideas that are consistent

00:11:10.580 with Western values? If the answer to that is yes, then we should let in more Islam into the West. If the

00:11:17.140 answer to that is no, then maybe we need to revisit our open door, you know, immigration policy. Nothing could

00:11:24.500 be clearer than that. Yeah. I'll turn this over to Kimberly in a second. But how do you weigh that reality, that

00:11:35.540 historical and present day reality? And I've always said, I have never written a word about Islam as a

00:11:41.700 religion. I don't know enough about it. I would just be taking somebody's talking points. But to understand what's going in the

00:11:48.500 world, you don't need to be a religious scholar, you simply need to read the news. And you need to see

00:11:55.140 what happens throughout the world. Whether it's Christians being beheaded in Nigeria, the genocide

00:12:04.580 against Christians in the Middle East, obviously the attempted genocide against Jews. I think we're afraid

00:12:13.620 to tell the truth. And I think a lot of what's going on is essentially a war on truth. But how do you weigh

00:12:19.940 that reality against, you know, the United States Constitution, which guarantees to each person freedom

00:12:26.980 of speech, freedom of association, freedom of religion? And that's one of the dilemmas that, you know,

00:12:33.620 I personally feel trapped because I don't want to ignore those constitutional freedoms. They are what sets us

00:12:40.740 apart from the rest of the world. But we can't ignore the reality. How do you frame it when people

00:12:46.420 say, well, you can't, you know, can't limit immigration of a group, you know, freedom of

00:12:50.980 religion? What's your take, not necessarily as a constitutional scholar, not as a legal matter,

00:12:55.940 but as a practical matter? Right. It's funny that you asked me this, because recently I had appeared

00:13:01.380 on Will Kane's podcast, where he exactly raised this point. And I, I'm going back on a show later

00:13:06.980 today, this television show, and we're going to be addressing exactly that. So I'm glad that you said

00:13:12.500 that I don't need to weigh in on the, the weeds of the, the legal game, because you're the lawyer,

00:13:18.180 not me, but I can certainly weigh in using reason and logic and, and common sense. We can't be so impotent

00:13:27.140 as to simply say, since we've got this thing called freedom of religion, therefore the world,

00:13:33.220 the word religion exists, therefore voila, there's nothing we can ever do. So let me give you a few

00:13:38.660 examples. Fido, the house cat is, is a feline. The adult male lion in the African savannah is also a

00:13:51.940 feline. They're both called feline, yet I'm probably not going to be as likely to cuddle up with both of

00:13:59.780 them. If I, if I said that because they're both felines, let me get out of the Africa Jeep, the

00:14:06.740 safari Jeep and cuddle up with the male lion, that's probably going to be a categorization error that I

00:14:12.980 made. That's going to lead to me becoming someone's dinner, right? Here's another analogy. The MMA is a

00:14:20.420 sport and badminton is a sport. They're both called sports, yet they don't have equal capacity to lead to

00:14:29.220 brain injuries, but they're both sports, right? So we, in the constitution, we have this, these things

00:14:36.100 called amendments because it's a living thing. It evolves, it changes. So the fact that you have this

00:14:43.780 thing called freedom of religion doesn't mean that forevermore we are bound to those words as it leads us

00:14:52.180 to the abyss of infinite lunacy. We're also adaptable creatures that can adjust in light of incoming

00:14:59.620 evidence. Jainism is a perfectly peaceful religion. It is so peaceful that when Jains walk on the sidewalk,

00:15:09.700 they walk with a broom to make sure that they don't step on any ants. So an extremist Jain is an extremely

00:15:17.940 peaceful person. A fundamental Muslim is not so much. So it certainly can't be that the West's

00:15:28.100 existence rests on its impotence of, but there is freedom of religion. So, you know,

00:15:35.140 there's really nothing we can do about it.

00:15:37.140 No, I think you make a great. Okay. I was going to say, I think you, you know, make a great point

00:15:48.340 about the distinction between individuals who might engage in Islam and then the universe of it itself.

00:15:55.540 So I grew up in Indonesia, which is the largest Muslim country by population. And like you had many,

00:16:02.580 many, many, many Muslim friends with zero issue. But then the flip side of that was that we also had

00:16:09.940 friends who, if they converted to Christianity, could never see their parents again, or they would

00:16:14.340 be killed, you know? So you're dealing with very different pieces and very different facets of this

00:16:21.860 universe of Islam. One of the things I would like to hear from you, and I think our listeners and viewers

00:16:28.500 would be very interested to hear too. And I know you explained this, um, at least the, the CliffsNotes

00:16:35.140 version of it in your book, The Parasitic Mind, but kind of how you ended up where you are. I know you

00:16:41.460 have a very harrowing, but very fascinating story about how you, you ended up exiting Lebanon, but even

00:16:49.620 you just from a career perspective, how you ended up working in the space that you're working now and

00:16:56.180 speaking so, um, so boldly about the things that you speak about now.

00:17:02.820 Thank you for that question. So I, uh, I basically tell the following, uh, story about my life. I have

00:17:10.100 faced two great wars in my life. The first great war was the Lebanese civil war, a literal war, a war of

00:17:19.620 butchery by which all other wars of butchery are judged against. And hence, that's why when I, the tweet

00:17:25.860 that Bill mentioned earlier, where I said, you know, it'll be on every street corner in 550 or 500

00:17:31.140 years, it's because that's exactly what it was in Beirut, right? You lived in peace until every street

00:17:37.300 corner, house to house, people were butchering each other. Once, you know, the, the lid, you know, fell

00:17:43.060 off, so to speak, uh, that Lebanese civil war, our unique reality stemmed from the fact that we were

00:17:49.860 part of the last remaining group of Jews, not Druze, not D-R-U-Z-E, but Jews, J-E-W-S. They,

00:17:58.740 they sound almost phonetically the same. So we were part of a very small community of Jewish people,

00:18:05.140 Lebanese people, Arabic speaking people, right? We're, we're fully Arabic in our culture. We just

00:18:11.940 happened to be Jews. Uh, it became impossible to be Jewish in Lebanon. And so, uh, you know,

00:18:17.700 at a immediate threat of execution, we were able to leave Lebanon. And if you want later, I can

00:18:24.100 certainly share some of the stories of Jew hatred that I experienced even before the civil war started.

00:18:29.380 So that was my, the first great war that I faced, which was a very traumatic, you know, childhood to

00:18:35.700 grow up under. Uh, as you might imagine, my parents were kidnapped by Fatah. They were tortured. Some

00:18:40.980 really bad things happened to us. So it's really, I mean, if you want to talk about real victimology,

00:18:45.700 I don't have to manufacture a victimology story. Uh, I'm at the apex of victimology, but

00:18:52.340 I have overcome that. Right. And I stand here before you, not as a victim, but as someone who,

00:18:57.860 despite that tragic start to my life, have hopefully done something positive with my life.

00:19:02.900 The second great war, which speaks to the rest of your question, was the war on reason, on logic,

00:19:09.220 on science, on reality that I experienced being now a professor for 31 years. Now, where, where I

00:19:16.420 first saw that war on reason was in my scientific work, where I was trying to Darwinize the business

00:19:25.940 school. By Darwinize the business school, what I mean is to incorporate evolutionary psychology and

00:19:31.940 evolutionary biology in the study of human behavior in general and economic and consumer behavior in

00:19:38.980 particular. To me, it seemed self-evident that, of course, human beings are biological beings. Who

00:19:45.060 wouldn't know that? Well, I'm here to tell you that most of my social scientist colleagues,

00:19:50.900 till today, don't agree with me and think that it is a really dangerous thing to argue that human

00:19:57.460 beings are driven by evolutionary forces. Evolution applies to every species on Earth,

00:20:03.860 except one called Homo sapiens. And if it applies, if evolution does apply to Homo sapiens,

00:20:10.100 it stops at the neck. It doesn't go higher. So it might explain why, evolution might explain why you

00:20:15.780 have opposable thumbs. But surely, Dr. Saad, you're not one of those Jewish Nazi doctors who believes that

00:20:22.340 we apply evolution to study the human mind. We transcend our biology. We're cultural animals,

00:20:29.060 according to social scientists. And so that was my first exposure to sort of the what the F moment.

00:20:35.700 How could these people actually believe that we transcend our biology? I mean, you think my hormones

00:20:42.500 don't affect my behavior when I make decisions? You think my hunger state doesn't affect my behavior,

00:20:48.660 you know, in terms of which decisions I will make if I'm hungry or not? And so what to me seemed

00:20:54.580 self-evident was terribly controversial, and it continues to be terribly controversial in the social

00:21:01.220 sciences. So those were the two original places where I faced some variant of a war, either a war,

00:21:10.420 a physical war, or a war on reason. And the unique attributes that make up my personality

00:21:20.020 don't allow me to be quiet. In other words, I never modulate what I'm going to say, because you said,

00:21:25.460 how come you speak so boldly and so on? I don't know how to be anything other than what I am, and that

00:21:31.140 I don't have a strategic mindset that says, well, I better not tweet this because there might be these

00:21:39.300 repercussions because the greatest cost to me would be me criticizing myself for being fraudulent. And

00:21:48.100 for me, if I modulate my thoughts, if I modulate what I say, when I go to bed at night, I can't sleep

00:21:57.220 because there was an attack on truth and I cowardly walked away from defending it. And therefore,

00:22:04.660 I worry less about the external enemies than I worry about my own self-criticism. And therefore,

00:22:11.300 I stand and talk and I don't give a damn what people think.

00:22:15.860 You're in good company there.

00:22:20.660 So no, thank you for that. Thank you for answering that and for your explanation there.

00:22:27.540 What do you have, Bill? I know you have some burning questions before.

00:22:31.460 Sure. So you introduced me to the concept of the wood cricket. I actually had to Google it and look

00:22:40.100 up. Explain what your wood cricket is. I don't know if it's an analogy or it's a insult, but explain it.

00:22:50.660 It's both. It's both. Some of my best insults are quite poetic in nature. People say that I can

00:22:59.620 tell you to go to hell and you look forward to the journey. So look, in a sense, I mean, I will use the

00:23:08.420 wood cricket as the example, but in a sense, your question is, why is the book called The Parasitic

00:23:13.940 Mind? Because the wood cricket is a manifestation of these neuroparasites. So I'll answer the more

00:23:20.580 general question first and then I will give the specific example with the wood cricket. So as I was

00:23:26.020 trying to come up with a framework to explain how it could be that human beings could be so

00:23:32.660 zombified in their ideological capture, I started scouring the animal literature, which is exactly

00:23:40.340 what an evolutionist would do, because oftentimes when you're trying to argue that some human behavior

00:23:45.780 is evolutionary based, you look for homologies, equivalences in other species, right? So when I

00:23:52.740 mentioned earlier about toy preferences, it turns out that sex specificity of toy preferences of human

00:23:58.820 infants is the same as it is for rhesus monkeys, vervet monkeys and chimpanzees. Well, surely you can't

00:24:05.460 argue that the parents of rhesus monkeys are engaging in patriarchal sex typing, right? And so that must

00:24:12.420 suggest that there is some innate evolutionary based mechanism that's driving those toy preferences.

00:24:18.980 Well, so I took this idea and I said, well, let me now look at the parasitology literature.

00:24:25.700 The parasitology is simply the study of host parasite interactions, but a parasite could be

00:24:32.580 in your intestinal tract. So a tapeworm will parasitize your intestinal tract. I was looking

00:24:39.140 for neuroparasites. So these are actual parasites that go to a host's brain, altering its circuitry,

00:24:48.420 and hence subsequent behavior to suit the interests of the parasite to the detriment of its host.

00:24:56.100 And that's when I had my aha epiphany moment. Aha, I will now use this neuroparasithological

00:25:02.660 framework to argue that human beings can be parasitized by idea pathogens. Now, specifically

00:25:09.780 the wood cricket, the wood cricket abhors water. It wants nothing to do with water. When it is

00:25:16.260 parasitized by a hair worm, the hair worm needs the wood cricket to jump into water so that it could

00:25:24.020 complete its reproductive cycle. So the hapless poor zombified parasitized wood cricket will happily

00:25:31.700 jump and commit suicide in the service of the reproductive interests of the hair worm. Therefore,

00:25:39.380 hashtag queers for Palestine is a wood cricket. Because when my queer identity is the manner by which I most

00:25:51.060 want to present myself to the world, would it make more sense for me to support a society that is

00:25:59.300 unbelievably queer friendly, friendly called Tel Aviv, for example? By the way, that's literally true. Short of New

00:26:08.100 York City, San Francisco, Montreal, Tel Aviv is right up there amongst some of the most queer friendly

00:26:14.020 places in the world. Or should I put all my chips behind Gaza, where I'm happy to report to both of

00:26:21.940 you that they have found, they have discovered through their very powerful psychoanalytic procedures, a new

00:26:29.860 gravity based conversion therapy to solve your queerness. It's called we throw you head first off

00:26:37.620 buildings, the tallest buildings, because oh, by the way, it's inscribed in Islam. So if I am a wood

00:26:43.780 cricket queer person, should I go with Tel Aviv? Or should I go with queers for Palestine? Well, because I

00:26:50.580 studied at Wellesley, and therefore I am much more enlightened than the rest of you, I put up a sign

00:26:56.580 that says dykes for Palestine. You know, it's funny, this is why you're such a good guest, because you're

00:27:03.140 always one step ahead of me. I want to hold this up. My next question was about queer, how do you explain

00:27:08.820 queers for Palestine? Sorry, really quickly. All right, I'm done with questions, you've answered everything.

00:27:17.460 No, just joking. No, we were real quick, real quick. Can I can I pop in real quick before you get there?

00:27:25.540 To the wood cricket specifically, I don't even know how we got here. My kids have questions about things

00:27:30.980 we watch on YouTube, you know, there's videos of anything and everything, some good, some bad. We

00:27:36.900 were looking up something about spiders, it served up something about this wood cricket parasite thing.

00:27:43.140 We literally watched this like three days ago. It is terrible. It is disgusting. It's disgusting.

00:27:52.020 So I mean, this analogy speaks, you know, to something very, very awful in every way.

00:28:00.340 And sorry, just forgive me for interrupting you. Yeah, it's very powerful, because it literally is if

00:28:06.580 you remember, I mean, I I'm old enough, and I think Bill is old enough to remember the movie

00:28:11.460 Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Right? Well, this is this is the original. Right? It's invasion of the

00:28:19.940 mind snatchers, right? Because that's what makes it so apt. Because how else can you explain such

00:28:27.220 behavior? Right? I mean, how else can you explain such an orgiastic desire to self immolate, to go

00:28:35.860 back to my earlier tweet that Bill so kindly put up? I mean, it has to be a form of parasitic

00:28:42.580 zombification. There's nothing else that could explain it. Yes, but you've identified the wood cricket.

00:28:49.540 It's mostly Western society. But what is the parasite? Right? Great question. So in the parasitic

00:28:57.860 mind, I discuss a whole bunch of these ideological parasites. I mean, I could discuss as many as you

00:29:04.180 want. But I'll start with the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas. And that's postmodernism. Because

00:29:11.140 postmodernism, I call it intellectual terrorism, right? Because up is down. Slavery is freedom. War is

00:29:18.580 peace. Men are women. Left is right. And why is that? Because it purports it, meaning postmodernism,

00:29:27.220 that there are no objective truths other than, of course, the one objective truth that there are no

00:29:32.260 objective truths. And it is that parasitic idea that then permits, offers the affordance for the other

00:29:40.900 parasitic ideas to flourish. Right? So for example, I have another parasitic idea called social

00:29:48.020 constructivism. Social constructivism is the idea that we are all born tabula rasa without any innate

00:29:56.420 biological imperatives. And it is subsequently only socialization that makes Bubba bench press more than

00:30:04.340 Linda. It can't be because there is actually an innate physiological, anatomical, morphological, hormonal

00:30:12.340 difference between this thing called male or female. Plus, we don't know what this thing called male or

00:30:17.860 female is, as your most recent addition to the Supreme Court explained to us, because she didn't have the

00:30:25.460 epistemological assuredness to tell us what is a woman, because she's not a biologist. But she's going to sit

00:30:32.820 on cases involving these real creatures called women, which, by the way, until 15 seconds ago,

00:30:40.900 the 117 billion people that had existed on Earth, that's a real estimate. There have been about 117

00:30:48.020 billion homo sapiens. They all seem to have been able to completely navigate through the conundrum of

00:30:54.580 what is male or female. But now we no longer know that. And that's why we celebrate when the British

00:31:01.380 courts explained to us just yesterday that, no, no, there is a definition for

00:31:08.100 women. But your ancestors and mine didn't need the British courts. That's what parasitic thinking is.

00:31:16.180 Yeah, I mean, I did notice, I think it was even this morning, you responding to somebody. I'm not

00:31:22.900 going to say his name, because I've never heard of him, and there's no reason to give him airtime.

00:31:27.140 But he made the statement, I don't think people quite understand the danger of linking woman and

00:31:33.620 man legally back to biological sex. It is truly some dark shit.

00:31:40.420 It is. It's very dark. I mean, imagine, I mean, to think that when I decided to marry my wife,

00:31:48.020 I presumed that she was female and that that would be the optimal way for us to, you know,

00:31:54.500 what's that word called? Oh, reproduce. That was just complete happenstance. It was because I believed

00:32:01.460 in this transphobic idea that I shouldn't mate with women with penises. And it was through that

00:32:07.780 happenstance that I ended up having children. But had I not been parasitized by transphobia,

00:32:13.460 I would still be trying to attempt to mate with a woman with a penis.

00:32:20.340 I'll turn it back over to Kimberly, but I do have more questions later.

00:32:24.660 So I do have a question for you. And I don't know if this is new. And maybe you can answer

00:32:30.340 that as part of this as well. But there seems to be at least a growing trend, where with these

00:32:38.100 particularly pernicious ideas that these groups of people or these individuals who choose to be

00:32:44.020 parts of these groups of people want to be identified solely based on whatever label they've

00:32:50.180 chosen. So if they decide that they're trans and, you know, they've joined this group, then that's all

00:32:56.340 there is to them as a person. So my question is, do you see that as a new trend? Or is it just more

00:33:05.620 pronounced because we have social media? And then also, what is I mean, where do we go from here,

00:33:12.420 where we're basically taking an entire complex person, and breaking them down at least by their

00:33:18.820 choosing into one tiny aspect, or preference, or, you know, delusion or whatever it is in there,

00:33:27.860 they're, they're surrounding and basing their entire identity based on this one tiny little, little trait.

00:33:34.100 Look, the fact that human beings like to engage in identity formation in defining their personhood

00:33:43.220 is something that exists since time immemorial. But to your point, I think that what made the West

00:33:49.300 great is that it promoted the idea of individual identity, individual dignity over belongingness to a

00:33:59.940 collective tribe, right? So people now often hear me talk about, you know, I'm Lebanese Jewish,

00:34:06.180 I'm Lebanese Jewish. But really, that's a, to your point, a very, very, it is only relevant now because

00:34:12.820 of the zeitgeist that we're in. But you could have gone back to my previous public engagements 15 or 20

00:34:18.740 years ago, and I would have never mentioned that I'm Jewish or not. It's because the ones who want to

00:34:22.980 kill me care about my Judaism, that I now have to mention being Jewish, I present myself to the world

00:34:28.900 as God sad, and I'm a collection of hopefully many good qualities, and hopefully not too many bad

00:34:34.740 qualities. And I wish for you to judge me based on the totality of those traits. Once you lose that

00:34:42.900 reflex to elevate the individual dignity of a person over some irrelevant, either tribal or

00:34:50.580 collective marker, I'm trans, I'm Muslim, I'm this, I'm that, it doesn't lead to good places. And as I

00:34:56.820 said earlier, that's what happens in Syria, that's what happens in Rwanda, that's what happened in the

00:35:03.460 Balkans, that's what happened in, of course, Lebanon. It's never good when collectivism supersedes,

00:35:11.940 sublimates individual identities. So for all sorts of reasons, I agree with you, and I think it's a

00:35:18.900 project.

00:35:22.740 Talk to me, talk to me about academia.

00:35:28.500 Wood cricket, parasite, combination of the two, your experience, I have my own, and I've spoken a lot

00:35:34.740 about it. But what role has academia played in the trajectory that we're on?

00:35:40.340 Well, all of the parasitic ideas that I discuss in my work, and certainly in the parasitic mind,

00:35:47.780 all of them, every single one of them, were originally spawned on university campuses,

00:35:53.780 because to kind of channel George Orwell's sentiment, it uniquely takes intellectuals to

00:36:00.900 come up with some of the dumbest ideas. And now the answer is, well, well, the question is, well,

00:36:06.260 why? How could it be that, you know, objectively intelligent, educated people called professors

00:36:11.460 can come up with dumb ideas? And I think I've got a pretty compelling answer.

00:36:18.260 It's because oftentimes, the ones who are the originators of those parasitic ideas are fully

00:36:25.380 decoupled from the autocorrective mechanisms of reality, right? I mean, that's why many of those

00:36:32.660 ideas originally flourished in some esoteric humanities department. It's not coincidental that

00:36:40.660 the least likely places where you saw these parasitic ideas in academia were traditionally,

00:36:47.140 not fully inoculated, but traditionally, much less so in the business school and in the engineering

00:36:53.060 school. Because you can't really build bridges using feminist architecture. And you can't really

00:36:59.940 build bridges using postmodernist physics, just like you can't build economic models that either

00:37:06.740 make you a lot of money or make you lose a lot of money using post-modernist econometrics,

00:37:12.340 because those fields are wedded to reality. There is an autocorrective slap in your face if you espouse

00:37:19.620 nonsense. But if I am in intersectional, underwater lesbian dance therapy, then I can engage in this

00:37:28.900 kind of pontification in front of a bunch of completely gullible students, and they all look

00:37:36.100 at me and say, wow, what profound nonsense you must be spewing, professor. It must be I'm too dumb to

00:37:42.100 understand it. That's how the postmodernists, by the way, got through with all of their nonsense.

00:37:48.420 Jacques Lacan, Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, who are three of the big French postmodernist

00:37:54.340 bullshitters. I think that that's exactly how they got away with all that they got away with,

00:37:59.140 which is they get up in front of an audience. They literally spew a concatenation of gibberish

00:38:05.220 nonsense. And now the audience member has to decide, am I not understanding what they're saying

00:38:12.420 because they're full of doo-doo? Or is it because I'm too dumb? And most people end up saying, oh,

00:38:19.860 it must be I'm too dumb because surely a professor couldn't be espousing nonsense. And so all of the

00:38:27.700 bad ideas that I discuss, Bill, stem from academia, regrettably. Every last one.

00:38:35.380 So I do want to go back to your book, The Parasitic Mind again. I have just nothing but praise for this

00:38:40.500 book. Even if you think you know a lot about pernicious ideology and the detrimental impact

00:38:46.340 it's having on the West and culture and ideas in general, this is something you need to read.

00:38:53.700 Can you tell us how did this book come to be?

00:39:00.020 Well, remember earlier I was talking about the two great wars I faced, the war in Lebanon and

00:39:06.900 the war on reason. So it's really a book that's been writing, you know, simmering in my head for

00:39:15.140 much of the past 30 years, because what started off early in my career as me noticing that fellow

00:39:21.780 social scientists did not agree that human beings are biological beings. And I would stop and say,

00:39:27.940 what do you mean? How could you think that we're not biological beings? What else are we? What did

00:39:31.700 they study in medical school? They study that we're not biological beings. And so and it just

00:39:36.580 accelerated from there, I would be sitting on granting, you know, committees where we decide who's

00:39:43.060 going to get a grant. And the grants were on, you know, queer mathematics and queer architecture and

00:39:49.140 feminist, whatever. And so I, you know, it's, it's, it's difficult to, you know, not be exposed to this

00:39:57.780 nonsense if you are in academia, because as I mentioned earlier, all of this nonsense started in

00:40:03.060 academia. Now, I should mention it, this is not to imply that, you know, everybody in academia is, is, is

00:40:09.060 insane. Absolutely not. But it doesn't take many people to ruin it for everybody else, right? So I remind

00:40:16.740 people that how many people did it take to bring down the Twin Towers, it was only 19 people, it wasn't

00:40:22.820 19 million people, right? And so by the same token, it doesn't take too many unhinged ideologues to, you

00:40:30.740 know, completely muddle the waters of reason in an academic setting. And so that's what I decided that,

00:40:39.220 okay, I need to document all this, I need to explain where all these bad ideas come from. And then towards

00:40:45.540 the end of the book, I hopefully offer a, an effective mind vaccine against this lunacy.

00:40:52.100 No, I, I, again, I really enjoyed it. And I mean, it's one of those that I know that I will go back

00:40:58.820 and read through periodically too, because it's one that you just need to digest a little bit and then

00:41:03.700 go back and read again and digest a little bit more. Um, so yes, again, if you haven't read it,

00:41:10.820 definitely be sure to check it out. You can find it on Amazon and all the usual places.

00:41:17.380 Thank you. I appreciate the kind words.

00:41:18.820 So the question I have, um, cause I know we're getting towards the end. Is it too late? Is it too

00:41:27.060 late for Western civilization? Have we become so zombified, um, so paralyzed, um, that we can't

00:41:35.940 turn back? Have we crossed the point of no return?

00:41:45.300 Part of me wants to always, uh, have an optimistic outlook and part of me is wedded to reality and not

00:41:53.700 imply that if I'm optimistic, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, ignoring reality. So let me answer it in two ways.

00:42:00.100 I think that remember the original tweet you put up, you know, in five 50, 500 years, you're going

00:42:05.140 to have war. So there will be an auto correction. That auto correction regrettably will come in the

00:42:12.020 form of violence. One of the things that I've been trying to warn people is that there people will wake

00:42:18.980 up. The question is, depending on when they wake up will determine whether it will largely be a

00:42:24.500 peaceful auto correction or a violent one. So to answer your question very broadly, I think that

00:42:30.820 it could potentially not be too late, but it's certainly in my view, too late for peaceful

00:42:38.020 auto correction. In other words, the problem will now continue to fester and worsen. And when people

00:42:45.300 truly wake up, when the average person truly gets their head out of the proverbial sand, there'll be no

00:42:51.860 other way to react other than through violence. Now, some of the idea pathogens can be resolved

00:42:58.660 without any violence, right? So for example, we already see that the zeitgeist is no longer very

00:43:03.940 open to people putting gender pronouns in their bios, right? Even the very committed wokesters are

00:43:10.660 quietly removing he, him, and she, they, whatever it is, right? So that's one way by which we get rid of

00:43:16.980 some of the nonsense without any shots being fired. But when it comes, for example, to open door

00:43:22.820 immigration policies where millions of people have come to the West from societies that couldn't be

00:43:28.740 more antithetical to the West, how are you going to coexist? I mean, unless those people reject their

00:43:36.420 religious and cultural heritage in order to assimilate to the West, there is no other outcome

00:43:42.980 other than eventual violence. But that's why when I put that tweet up that you mentioned at the start

00:43:48.660 of our show, I couldn't give you an exact timeline because that will determine on, you know, when

00:43:56.420 people will wake up. But I, so will people wake up? Yes. That's the optimistic part, but they will wake

00:44:03.460 up. It will be violence. That's the pessimistic part. Okay. So I have quoted you. I have quoted Reagan.

00:44:11.460 Now I'm going to quote Lenin from his famous pamphlet. I did speak Russian fluently at one point in my

00:44:21.300 life. Not anymore. What is to be done? You mean, so what is it that we can do to try to create it? So here is

00:44:33.060 part of why the tweet that you mentioned and a series of other tweets that I've put up that constitute

00:44:40.020 part of my, what I call my somber tweets. The reason why I call them somber is because usually people

00:44:46.020 ascribe to me, you know, being very jovial. And even when I'm talking about very serious topics,

00:44:50.980 right, I'm funny and humorous. People call me the happy warrior, but I've started putting up more and

00:44:58.100 more somber tweets because my feeling is that the West doesn't have the stomach to implement the

00:45:07.380 types of auto-corrections that could solve the problem. So that's why I hesitated between optimism

00:45:13.700 and pessimism. There is a pathway by which you solve the problem, but I simply don't think the West has

00:45:20.660 the ability to do it. So let's take, for example, Canada. Canada right now is about to face a federal

00:45:26.420 election and we've just come out of nine years of Justin Trudeau. By every conceivable metric by which

00:45:36.260 a society is judged on any metric you want, we are astoundingly worse. And yet many Canadians are saying,

00:45:45.460 when I tell them, so who are you voting for in the next election? Oh, liberals, because you know,

00:45:50.740 I'm a liberal person, Professor Saad. So how could it be that you've just gotten nine years of data

00:45:57.460 that suggests that you might want to revise your political behavior, and yet you're fully anchored

00:46:03.780 in being non-malleable in your political behavior? So I think that's, so I can offer you a solution of

00:46:12.980 what to do next. Well, here's what you do next. Not a single person who practices an ideology that is in

00:46:21.060 any way contrary to the Western foundational values has a right to be in the West. Do you think that

00:46:28.340 that's going to be implemented, given the original question you asked me about freedom of religion?

00:46:33.620 I fear not. And so in the abstract, there are many things that we can do pragmatically. I fear that

00:46:41.780 we won't, and therefore prepare for what I call collective seppuku. Seppuku is a ritual suicide that

00:46:50.500 the Japanese practice. Well, we're going to commit collective seppuku under the name of suicidal empathy,

00:46:57.460 which is the topic of the current book that I'm working on. Or we're going to become Beirut.

00:47:04.980 Somebody's going to win and somebody's going to lose. And maybe that's where we're heading. Well,

00:47:10.740 I thank you so much for taking the time. I've learned a lot. Every time I read anything you've written,

00:47:16.420 I've watched a lot of your videos. I really learn a lot. And, you know, we, I can only imagine what you

00:47:24.260 must go through. I mean, I stopped picking up my phone at the office in 2009. Okay. So I understand

00:47:31.220 it. And that's not an exaggeration. That's actually true. And we thank you for, for being so bold,

00:47:38.740 for telling people the truth, for being willing to try to alert people to what is coming based in part

00:47:47.220 on your personal experience. And we thank you a lot. And we hope that all of the people watching this

00:47:53.940 will buy your books and retweet you. And more than anything, realize what's happening.

00:48:02.980 Thank you so much for having me. It was a real pleasure. Keep doing your great work. Thank you.

00:48:06.580 Cheers. Yes. Thank you.

00:48:11.140 Take care. Take care guys. Ciao.

The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - April 24, 2025

War is Coming to Every Corner of the West (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_825)

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