The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - Woke Culture is Killing Society - Keeping It Real with Jillian Michaels (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_737)

00:00:00.000 When I become so progressive, I realize that it simply is unfair to punish those noble homeless people. 0.96

00:00:11.900 And therefore, sorry children, it's time for you to see Bobby masturbating in the park while shooting up heroin. 0.82

00:00:19.780 Today on the show, Dr. Gad Saad is back. 0.94

00:00:22.640 He's a visiting professor and global ambassador for Northwood University.

00:00:26.120 In the pursuit of that noble objective, if we have to rape and murder truth, so be it. 0.55

00:00:33.060 He's the best-selling author of The Parasitic Mind and soon-to-be-released new book, Suicidal Empathy.

00:00:39.220 That one person who's truly a transgender person, their rights don't supersede the rights of the 999 biological women

00:00:50.220 who spent the last 10 years training to hopefully get on the podium.

00:00:55.640 So if you're wondering how it's possible that the world seems to have lost its effing mind...

00:01:02.100 We need to espouse the position that there are no differences between men and women.

00:01:07.680 And to the extent that there are differences, they must be due to social construction.

00:01:12.380 Dr. Gad Saad says it's suicidal empathy.

00:01:15.040 Let's figure out what this is and how we can stop the war on science, reason, and logic.

00:01:22.120 Zero proof of that.

00:01:23.420 I don't know if you saw this interview I did with Sage Steele where she asked me why I was leaving California.

00:01:41.940 And I used your line, so for everybody listening who does not know, this came from a conversation

00:01:48.660 that Gad and I had and from his book, The Parasitic Mind.

00:01:53.340 I said, I hold a bunch of cards in this game of woke victimology poker. 0.68

00:01:58.340 And I laid them all out and it's amazing how many people, my inner honey badger, that moment of calling bullshit on everything,

00:02:08.580 of standing my ground really resonated.

00:02:12.840 I was getting messages from people everywhere.

00:02:14.940 And it's because, really, you empowered me way back when we had our first conversation,

00:02:22.180 which was somewhere around, I think, 2020, to be honest.

00:02:25.180 Right.

00:02:25.920 That where I was an expert, I needed to stand my ground.

00:02:29.820 I needed to fight back.

00:02:31.400 I needed to speak truths and elevate people who were brave enough to do that.

00:02:37.540 And you are the guy that is really empowering so many of us to do that.

00:02:44.480 So the first thing I wanted to address was your first book.

00:02:47.500 For anybody who missed it, The Parasitic Mind, let's do a quick recap because this is really, I think,

00:02:53.800 the foundation of our message today or the conversation I want to have.

00:02:59.120 Can you tell everybody listening what's the book about and why did you write it?

00:03:03.800 Sure.

00:03:04.100 Well, first, thank you for the kind words.

00:03:06.120 Very, very small correction.

00:03:07.560 Forgive me.

00:03:08.300 It's not my first book, Parasitic Mind.

00:03:10.140 It's my fourth one.

00:03:11.200 But fair enough.

00:03:12.720 It's the first one that you're aware of.

00:03:16.720 But Dr. Sad existed before The Parasitic Mind.

00:03:20.620 Oh, no.

00:03:21.480 Oh, God.

00:03:23.400 Don't worry about it.

00:03:24.560 I'm not winning any awards for this job yet.

00:03:27.300 And this is why, Gad.

00:03:28.340 You know, it's always tricky.

00:03:30.480 You never want to correct a host.

00:03:32.660 But in this case, it's part of the bio.

00:03:35.360 So forgive me for having corrected you on air.

00:03:37.760 You needed to do that.

00:03:39.380 You needed to do that. 0.99

00:03:40.120 Forgive me for being so ignorant. 0.99

00:03:42.520 I discovered you when I read The Parasitic Mind. 0.91

00:03:46.140 So The Parasitic Mind is, in a sense, a book that covers my entire career in academia.

00:03:56.920 It's now my 31st year as a professor.

00:03:59.360 I can't believe that I'm saying that.

00:04:00.640 I realized that there was a war on reason, on science, on logic, right?

00:04:07.600 And so what I did in The Parasitic Mind is I argued that in the same way that all sorts of animals, including humans, can be parasitized by actual brain worms.

00:04:18.780 I mean, literal brain worms, real parasites.

00:04:22.700 They can also be parasitized by a second class of brain worms. 0.87

00:04:27.360 I call those ideological brain worms or parasitic idea pathogens. 0.67

00:04:32.860 So postmodernism is a parasitic idea, social constructivism, radical feminism, cultural relativism.

00:04:41.340 All of these ideas were originally spawned within the university ecosystem.

00:04:46.660 And eventually, they broke free from the lab, so to speak.

00:04:50.540 And then they've infected every facet of our lives. 0.95

00:04:52.960 So the book basically traces the evolution of all of these ideological parasites.

00:04:59.040 And then toward the end of the book, I offer a mind vaccine against this form of distorted thinking.

00:05:06.160 Then I guess not enough people are reading the book, Gad, because more and more,

00:05:15.720 I feel that this war on reason, science, and logic is gaining steam.

00:05:25.300 And so many of us, I think this is why Rogan really strikes a nerve with people.

00:05:32.860 Because I read a tweet, no, I'm sorry, I was listening to an interview he was doing.

00:05:39.060 Ironically, this one was not with you.

00:05:41.120 And he was saying he feels like people are just under a spell.

00:05:45.720 Like, wake up.

00:05:47.340 You kind of want to shake someone and say, what are you doing?

00:05:52.640 What are you talking about?

00:05:54.220 How can you think that an XY chromosome is the exact same as an XX chromosome?

00:06:00.520 The earth is not flat.

00:06:02.900 Why?

00:06:04.920 And I know you talk a little bit about academia, or you've referenced it now.

00:06:08.560 And you outline all of this in the book, which everybody needs to read immediately for their own sanity. 0.87

00:06:13.240 And to better steel man themselves in arguments with people who have this brain parasite.

00:06:21.700 Why is there a war on reason, science, and logic?

00:06:27.020 I've not, this war didn't exist in my lifetime until four or five years ago.

00:06:33.320 Yeah, that's a great question.

00:06:35.740 So I try to answer that by looking at what makes these ideological brain parasites so compelling that they can actually flourish within someone's brain. 0.96

00:06:48.340 To your point, how could someone believe all this nonsense? 0.88

00:06:50.700 So I argue that in the same way, take, for example, let's draw an analogy with cancer.

00:06:57.520 Different cancers behave quite differently.

00:07:01.720 Pancreatic cancer is maybe different than leukemia and maybe different from prostate cancer.

00:07:05.700 But what they certainly all have one thing in common, once you distill it to its most lowest common denominator, is that there is some form of unchecked cell division.

00:07:15.640 And so in the case of these brain worms, I was trying to look, so what is common to all these brain parasites?

00:07:25.200 And my answer is that they all start with a alluring, noble objective. 0.97

00:07:33.040 And then in the pursuit of that noble objective, if we have to rape and murder truth, so be it, because there is a higher goal that we're trying to achieve.

00:07:44.820 So let me give, because that sounds reasonable, but you have to give a tangible example.

00:07:49.840 So take, for example, equity feminism. 0.91

00:07:52.780 Equity feminism makes perfect sense. 1.00

00:07:55.040 There is no reason why men and women should not have equal pay for the exact same job.

00:08:02.420 There shouldn't be any institutionalized forms of sexism anywhere. 0.99

00:08:08.100 And so based on that definition of equity feminism, both you and I would put up our hand and say, yeah, yeah, count me in. 1.00

00:08:13.880 I'm an equity feminist. 1.00

00:08:15.540 Then the radical feminists come along and say, well, we need to push this further. 1.00

00:08:20.360 In order to eradicate the patriarchal status quo, we need to espouse the position that there are no differences between men and women.

00:08:30.620 And to the extent that there are differences, they must be due to social construction.

00:08:35.740 There can't be any innate biological-based, evolutionary-based sex differences, because then that would allow us to eradicate the sexist status quo more quickly, more easily. 0.53

00:08:47.500 So in the service of what appears to be a noble goal, if I have to rape and murder truth, so be it.

00:08:55.260 And that, by the way, speaks to an important distinction that I talk about in the book, and that is the difference between deontological ethics and consequentialist ethics.

00:09:04.620 Deontological ethics is an absolute statement.

00:09:07.840 So if I say to you, Jillian, it is never okay to lie, that would be a deontological position.

00:09:13.900 If I said it's okay to lie in order to spare someone's feelings, that would be a consequentialist statement.

00:09:20.080 Now, for many things in life, all of us are consequentialist, and that's perfectly fine.

00:09:24.440 But there is a certain set of foundational principles that, by definition, have to be deontological.

00:09:31.700 So the pursuit of truth has to be deontological.

00:09:35.200 Presumption of innocence in the judicial system has to be deontological.

00:09:39.540 Freedom of speech has to be deontological.

00:09:42.440 So all of these brain worms evolve and flourish because you apply a consequentialist ethos to the pursuit of truth.

00:09:50.700 Meaning you allow for exceptions out of what initially are great intentions.

00:09:59.480 Exactly.

00:09:59.680 And then these exceptions erode fundamental realities.

00:10:06.840 Exactly.

00:10:07.020 And then it doesn't seem to stop.

00:10:10.260 You know, and I don't mean to reference Rogan again, but in his Netflix special, because for some reason I feel like he's just kind of that average guy that is wondering what the F is going on.

00:10:27.320 And he was saying, he's like, I wish I had a tribe, right?

00:10:31.080 It feels good to belong.

00:10:32.720 And I completely get it, because when you're in the middle, you don't really get to belong anywhere.

00:10:39.380 And I found myself wishing I could really lean into one side or another, and yet he's like, so I start talking.

00:10:47.640 Of course I want health care for people and blah, blah, blah.

00:10:50.800 Of course I want access to equal education, access, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:57.820 Like all these really wonderful altruistic goals.

00:11:00.800 And then it's like, well, men can have babies. 1.00

00:11:03.680 And he's like, fuck. 1.00

00:11:06.860 Like what? 1.00

00:11:08.640 What has happened to this person that I thought I had so much in common with?

00:11:13.820 And it's disturbing because it does feel like people are under a spell.

00:11:22.180 And you kind of want to shake them.

00:11:23.840 It feels like the Matrix.

00:11:26.040 And you want to give them the red pill.

00:11:27.940 And I don't mean the Republican pill.

00:11:29.420 I mean the unplug from this madness.

00:11:33.200 So in the parasitic mind, I explained the idea that in chapter two, the difference between thinking and feeling.

00:11:39.100 And I argue that it's a false dichotomy to say, no, no, but humans are rational animals, as if emotions don't matter.

00:11:46.420 Of course, the reality is we're both thinking animals and feeling animals.

00:11:50.800 The trick of life is to know, or the challenge in life is to know when to apply the right system at the right context.

00:11:59.220 So for example, when I am cutting through an alleyway because I want to get home more quickly,

00:12:07.460 and I see three young men loitering that look suspicious, I get a fear-based response.

00:12:13.880 My heart rate starts going up.

00:12:16.020 My blood pressure goes up.

00:12:17.920 So my emotional system has been triggered.

00:12:21.120 And it makes perfect evolutionary sense for me to have that fear-based response because emotions are autonomic.

00:12:27.240 They're quickly deployed.

00:12:28.440 And that's exactly what I need in this context.

00:12:30.920 On the other hand, if I'm trying to do well on a calculus exam, triggering my emotional system so I start hyperventilating is probably not going to be the right way to go for me to do well on the calculus exam.

00:12:43.180 Now, in the context of the parasitic mind and in the context of the Newsweek article that's coming out soon,

00:12:49.580 I argue that when it comes to choosing your president, and when that president happens to be the president of the United States,

00:12:57.900 or the most important country in the world, the leader of the free world,

00:13:02.940 invoking your emotional system rather than your cognitive system is a disastrous reality.

00:13:11.020 Now, I'm not trying to be political, and I remind people that I'm Canadian, so I don't vote in the American election.

00:13:18.720 Unlike the illegal Guatemalans who get to vote, I don't vote because I'm Canadian. 0.99

00:13:24.060 Okay?

00:13:24.860 Now, what's Kamala Harris? 1.00

00:13:28.820 Kamala Harris, also known as Aristotle and Epictetus because she is so brilliant.

00:13:33.800 What is her whole strategy?

00:13:35.900 It's joy.

00:13:37.320 It's positive vibe.

00:13:39.220 It's excitement.

00:13:41.060 It's fun.

00:13:42.620 Why?

00:13:43.460 I'm trying to evoke, invoke, activate emotional system.

00:13:48.460 Hey, please, electorate, don't think.

00:13:51.960 Don't be rational.

00:13:53.820 Don't look at policies.

00:13:55.980 When you look at me, you're happy.

00:13:58.640 When you look at Ogre Orange Himmler, he's mean.

00:14:02.700 He's cantankerous.

00:14:04.260 Therefore, vote for me.

00:14:06.020 It's fun.

00:14:06.800 By the way, you might think that this only applies to, quote, low-information voters.

00:14:14.000 I hate that expression.

00:14:15.740 No, no.

00:14:16.280 It applies to my colleagues. 1.00

00:14:19.040 They are as prone to this stupidity. 1.00

00:14:22.720 So I look at all of my colleagues who suddenly discovered that in the history of human thought, much more than Isaac Newton, much more than Charles Darwin, the true brilliant mind of history is Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:14:38.820 Until 14 seconds ago, she was an abject moron who couldn't string together a single sentence. 0.99

00:14:46.080 But now they're going to vote for her. 1.00

00:14:48.840 She's fun. 0.93

00:14:50.340 She's the pathway forward.

00:14:52.860 She's for change. 0.64

00:14:53.780 But she also happens to be the current administration. 0.99

00:14:57.320 So she's changing a pathway forward.

00:15:00.680 But by the way, please don't think about the fact that she is the current administration.

00:15:05.080 So we should run away from the current administration because she's going to institute change. 1.00

00:15:09.480 So the capacity for people to be parasitized by bad ideas, to be parasitized by their emotional system is so profound.

00:15:20.180 But to me, it's so disheartening because in some cases it may not matter.

00:15:26.000 But when it comes to who's going to have their finger on the proverbial red button, nuclear button, maybe you want to do more than just think about joy and fun.

00:15:37.440 Two thoughts on that.

00:15:38.720 Number one, and I'm sure you'll know this better than anyone.

00:15:42.360 I was watching a documentary on Netflix and Hitler captured the entire nation with a movement called Strength Through Joy. 0.91

00:15:53.460 Bingo.

00:15:54.800 You got it.

00:15:55.560 Not that I'm saying obviously she is not a Nazi. 0.95

00:15:59.520 Of course.

00:16:00.180 But there is no question somebody on her campaign was like, now let's see.

00:16:05.740 How did they capture all of these people and kind of enrapture them?

00:16:14.020 It was a huge thing.

00:16:15.840 Google it.

00:16:17.540 That's my go-to.

00:16:19.340 There's no question.

00:16:21.020 And it's like joy, joy, joy, joy.

00:16:23.180 I've seen compilations of liberal media channels and people in the Democratic Party saying joy, joy, joy.

00:16:34.980 The most remarkable demonstration of support, enthusiasm, joy.

00:16:39.960 This idea of joy.

00:16:41.480 Joy.

00:16:41.680 Being joyful is part of the American identity.

00:16:44.840 There is joy in the future.

00:16:46.700 There is joy in having your boss be a black woman. 1.00

00:16:49.460 There is joy in what is coming.

00:16:51.400 What we're hearing from this vice president, future president, is a message of freedom and joy.

00:16:57.060 I just love that we have this new joy.

00:16:59.620 You can see it just so filled with the joy of the work.

00:17:03.200 The fact that we saw that exuberance last night, that joy.

00:17:07.140 One is hope and joy and the other is fear and anger.

00:17:11.100 You could really see joy and exuberance versus grievance and retribution.

00:17:16.580 People are tired of fear and anger and so they're going to give to them the hope and the joy.

00:17:22.700 At the same time, I would tell you that somebody might say, well, it's a lesser of evil.

00:17:29.140 But I appreciate that part.

00:17:31.220 If they're telling me, this is what I don't like about Trump and I do see this about Kamala.

00:17:35.720 And for me, I'm going to go this way because I don't like this about him.

00:17:41.060 If they can at least see it.

00:17:42.900 But the part that is, does feel crazy.

00:17:46.040 Like there is nobody going to wake up part is with, nope, she was the least popular vice 1.00

00:17:51.920 president of all time.

00:17:54.980 And she didn't get a single vote.

00:17:59.140 In the Democratic primary, right?

00:18:02.260 So this is not Republicans or independents voting against her.

00:18:06.480 When she ran in the primary for 2020, she was the first one to go out because she didn't 0.72

00:18:12.800 get above zero percent.

00:18:14.960 She didn't get to one percent.

00:18:17.020 So imagine that she's now coronated. 1.00

00:18:20.180 Now, again, my position is not, you know, I'm not a surrogate of Trump.

00:18:24.700 I don't have posters of Trump in my bedroom.

00:18:27.440 But I am for rationality.

00:18:30.800 I'm for thought.

00:18:31.700 Now, if you come to me and say, here are the seven substantive reasons why I think Kamala

00:18:38.680 Harris is the right choice.

00:18:40.960 I'm going to listen to you and then we can have this.

00:18:43.380 But it never is that.

00:18:44.480 It really is.

00:18:45.000 I've asked the question.

00:18:46.860 I've asked the question myself of everybody who says that to me.

00:18:50.160 And I either hear she's pro-abortion and I'm like, okay, I, you know, I, I understand why 0.99

00:18:57.320 many people are deeply concerned about that.

00:19:00.620 That said, or I hear, isn't it exciting?

00:19:03.580 She's a woman of color.

00:19:04.840 And it's like, you've, but now you've reduced her to the, tell me about, like, I could tell

00:19:10.400 you what I love about Tulsi Gabbard.

00:19:11.980 I could tell you things that I liked about Nikki Haley.

00:19:15.560 I could tell you things I liked about Klobuchar.

00:19:17.440 I never once was impressed by Kamala personally.

00:19:21.600 And it has nothing to do with her being a Democrat.

00:19:23.260 I just didn't find her personally impressive with regard to the way she spoke, her job record.

00:19:34.420 She wasn't my candidate, not at any point, even when I was very heavily left.

00:19:39.760 And yet it's like she's hung the moon.

00:19:43.120 She is.

00:19:43.560 Look, let me just add a few, a few points.

00:19:45.560 I'm going to draw a cool analogy.

00:19:48.560 There's a, I mean, the fancy term is tassiography.

00:19:51.720 Tassiography is something that you see in the Middle East. 0.93

00:19:57.100 It could either be where you read the tea leaves or in, at least in our culture from Lebanon,

00:20:03.700 that when you drink Arabic coffee or Turkish coffee, there is a residue at the bottom.

00:20:08.400 So if you flip that cup, it creates certain patterns.

00:20:13.780 And in Arabic culture, there is, believe me, it's going to come back to Kamala. 0.99

00:20:18.940 So bear with me.

00:20:19.580 Because oftentimes when I start on these stories, people are like, what is he talking about?

00:20:24.780 Don't worry, I bring it all home.

00:20:26.500 I'm always with you.

00:20:27.600 I'm there, I'm just done by the way.

00:20:29.540 All right.

00:20:30.080 The payoff is too big, man.

00:20:31.520 The payoff is just too huge.

00:20:33.620 So I have, she's still alive, knock on wood.

00:20:36.440 My paternal aunt was known in Arabic, you say Basara.

00:20:41.780 Basara means it's one who can, is a fortune teller.

00:20:46.460 So she can read the patterns in your coffee cup.

00:20:50.860 Okay.

00:20:51.100 So I remember when I was a young boy, seven, eight, nine, 10 years old in Lebanon.

00:20:55.160 And when my aunt would come over, it's as if the Pope is coming over because now this

00:21:00.420 holy creature who can foresee the future is going to come over and read the stuff.

00:21:06.460 And when she would look at it and read it, she would look at it.

00:21:09.660 And then she'd say, I see in Arabic, you say Farah, joy in your future, right?

00:21:15.760 Like that's pretty non-specific.

00:21:20.200 If I'm constipated and I have a good bowel movement tonight, that's joy. 0.97

00:21:24.480 If I have sex with my wife tonight, it's joy. 0.99

00:21:27.580 If tomorrow I went $10 in the lottery, it's joy. 0.98

00:21:31.020 If it's sunny tomorrow, but today was rainy, that's joy.

00:21:34.340 So there is an infinite number of ways by which your very non-specific prediction of

00:21:39.880 there will be joy in your future could come in handy.

00:21:43.160 I hope you're seeing where I'm going with this.

00:21:44.900 So when lobotomized Kamala Harris speaks, it's always in broad things. 0.99

00:21:52.600 I see a better future.

00:21:54.580 I see cohesive communities, right?

00:21:59.000 Lobotomized, void of substance.

00:22:01.760 It's my aunt who's telling me, right?

00:22:04.160 My aunt didn't say, I see that you will be moving from Boston to Atlanta and you will be

00:22:11.540 getting an 8.3% increase in your salary.

00:22:16.120 Specificity is the enemy of the fortune teller.

00:22:19.220 It is also the enemy of lobotomized Kamala Harris.

00:22:23.300 That's why we can then resort to joy and happiness because joy and happiness doesn't require specificity.

00:22:30.160 I don't have to tell you the specific fiscal policy that will result in the removal of the current inflation rate.

00:22:39.520 That's too hard.

00:22:41.020 That involves this weird thing called thinking.

00:22:43.880 Better invoke my feelings instead.

00:22:45.600 You know, what's interesting is that I had personally identified the most with RFK.

00:22:53.280 Putting the health stuff aside and the imminent threat of a nuclear war that I believe is very real,

00:23:00.040 he explains things in a way that makes sense to me. 0.98

00:23:04.500 So don't tell me on the left you're going to punch Putin in the nose because he's a big bully. 0.85

00:23:10.180 I'm like, okay, this is not the truth about what's going on here. 0.92

00:23:13.520 It's way more complicated.

00:23:15.160 And then Trump is like, it would never happen if I was.

00:23:17.940 And it's like, well, is that because you wouldn't have pushed for Ukraine to join NATO?

00:23:22.600 Like there's no, but Kennedy explains, okay, this is the history of this.

00:23:27.900 And he might, you know, they're, they might not be a hundred percent perfect on how much money we gave to who and what, 0.99

00:23:33.740 but there's something about him explaining things in detail that resonated with me because I did pick up that these platitudes are bullshit. 0.99

00:23:43.820 And if you can't make it granular, I don't trust you. 0.97

00:23:47.840 But for everybody else, it feels good.

00:23:50.220 And even if I disagree with you, exactly.

00:23:52.040 If you disagree with his explanation, at least there is substance, right?

00:23:57.120 So I may say, yes, you gave me 10 steps in your causal explanation.

00:24:01.820 I disagree with steps three to six, but my God, it demonstrates that there are neuronal firings in your brain.

00:24:08.540 But I have never seen any proof.

00:24:11.580 I haven't seen a single proof that Kamala Harris's cranium is not actually filled with jello. 1.00

00:24:18.740 There is zero proof of that.

00:24:22.920 That's okay.

00:24:24.080 Blame me.

00:24:25.020 I'm Canadian.

00:24:25.620 I'm Canadian.

00:24:28.480 None.

00:24:29.040 Oh my God. 0.88

00:24:29.720 You're a neuronal firings.

00:24:32.100 Listen, I, I, I would never, I would never silence a word of it.

00:24:36.020 And, and, um, I, I, I don't disagree with you at all.

00:24:39.760 Um, is what you have a new book coming out, which is in 2026.

00:24:44.500 And we need it right now, but obviously.

00:24:47.080 I was working on it earlier this afternoon.

00:24:49.660 I need it now.

00:24:51.380 And the book is for everyone, everyone watching the book is called Suicidal Empathy.

00:24:56.940 And I'm going to rant a little bit more on this.

00:24:59.360 I was watching, um, a show on YouTube that I enjoy called like Young Turks.

00:25:04.880 And I cannot remember the name of the male host.

00:25:08.280 Cause I really like Anna Kasparian, but he, that's it.

00:25:13.520 That's it.

00:25:14.040 Thank you.

00:25:14.400 And he's fighting with a conservative, this guy, Charlie Kirk.

00:25:19.340 And he's like, but you don't have any empathy.

00:25:21.500 And it had to do, I believe it had to do with illegal immigration.

00:25:25.040 I can't remember the exact issue, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was about.

00:25:28.380 And he's saying to Charlie Kirk, you have no empathy.

00:25:32.040 Like, we just want you to be empathetic.

00:25:33.520 And I thought to myself, this is providing you with a moral superiority.

00:25:40.400 You are the good guy cause you are empathetic.

00:25:44.000 You know, you, you have talked about how vulnerable our culture is, how vulnerable the West is and

00:25:51.340 our way of life.

00:25:53.820 I see all of this.

00:25:56.240 And maybe, maybe I'm not looking as broadly cause I do remember the parasitic mind and I

00:26:01.600 need to go back and read it, but everything I'm seeing is coming that I find deeply offensive

00:26:06.060 and scary is coming down to this dysregulated suicidal empathy, whether it's, cause I'm for

00:26:11.700 immigration reform.

00:26:13.100 I would, I think the country is made of immigrants.

00:26:15.340 Like I would want the best people get in line.

00:26:17.740 Let's vet you start working, pay into the system.

00:26:20.540 What can you contribute?

00:26:22.040 Like I, that all makes sense to me.

00:26:24.020 Chris Christie talked about this and it made sense to me.

00:26:27.740 Not nobody gets in and not everybody gets in.

00:26:31.240 And like, where's the common sense, but yet it's, everybody gets in.

00:26:35.460 And I think that was that guy sink.

00:26:37.440 I can't pronounce his last name.

00:26:38.600 His position was like, well, we're so empathetic.

00:26:41.140 And if you're not, you're racist.

00:26:43.000 That's the go-to. 0.99

00:26:43.760 It's like, you're racist. 1.00

00:26:44.580 You're transphobe. 1.00

00:26:45.320 You're a fat shamer. 1.00

00:26:46.100 That's a, that's a beautiful one. 0.98

00:26:47.800 Um, but it's, it's like, hold, now you've got Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment buildings 0.67

00:26:54.500 in Colorado.

00:26:55.300 Like, wait a second.

00:26:58.120 So, so all of these things that are happening that are reap, wrecking chaos seem to me to

00:27:06.020 be driven in large part by this dysregulated empathy.

00:27:10.840 How does this stop?

00:27:12.580 Does it stop when, cause part of me, like, I hate to say this, but I, I almost hope the

00:27:18.300 left loses, not because I left the left, because I genuinely feel they left me, you know, when,

00:27:23.600 when Michelle Obama is who I loved, I mean, I loved her.

00:27:27.900 I loved her.

00:27:28.920 And she's on the stage at the DNC talking about how we need to accept the medicalization of

00:27:36.140 gender dysphoric children. 1.00

00:27:37.420 I'm like, wait, what the fuck? 1.00

00:27:40.800 You guys were against gay marriage back in 2008. 1.00

00:27:43.800 How did you get here?

00:27:45.280 Somebody need to stop your train, homie. 1.00

00:27:47.340 Like you've dysregulated.

00:27:50.040 So what, how do we get back from this?

00:27:54.860 How does this?

00:27:55.680 Well, there are, there are several.

00:27:57.080 Yes.

00:27:57.320 That's a, it's a big question.

00:27:58.720 Let's take one at a time.

00:27:59.960 So let's say, for example, freaking out.

00:28:02.080 Let's take, let's take immigration. 0.78

00:28:03.900 So let me, let me link it to a specific reality in Quebec, which your viewers and listeners may

00:28:11.440 not be familiar with.

00:28:12.600 So it, it kind of hopefully offers added value.

00:28:15.180 So in Quebec, where I reside, although this next year I'll be at Northwood University for

00:28:22.800 one year leave.

00:28:25.540 Quebec is uniquely worried about its linguistic heritage, right?

00:28:32.680 Because in the context of Canada, Canada is officially a bilingual country, but it's only bilingual

00:28:38.260 largely because of Quebec.

00:28:39.800 Although there are other pockets of French speaking people.

00:28:42.420 There's some in Acadia, there's some in Alberta, but the great majority of French speaking Canadians

00:28:47.940 reside in Quebec, right?

00:28:49.440 So that's why Quebec is called the distinct society.

00:28:52.560 So because Quebecers, the, the, the, the, the, not the, not the immigrant Quebecers, but the, the Quebecers, the French Canadians,

00:28:59.320 because they are uniquely focused on preserving their language.

00:29:06.980 Therefore, everything is viewed through the prism of we're going to die out because our language is going to die.

00:29:14.640 They will institute certain policies that are too focused on this issue to the detriment of other issues.

00:29:22.620 So example, I've often said it even in very public settings, and I'll repeat it here.

00:29:28.180 Here is Quebec's official policy because there are tons of French speaking immigrants that could come from Islamic countries.

00:29:39.100 It's a great idea to let in hundreds of thousands of immigrants singularly from Islamic countries,

00:29:49.160 because when they then take us to be beheaded, they will, before the beheading starts, they will say bonjour.

00:29:57.800 So by saying bonjour, the beheadings will only be happening in French.

00:30:04.780 So don't worry, the head will roll off, but you will have protected the French language.

00:30:10.320 Now, let me link that to say COVID policies.

00:30:13.140 When you view all of the COVID policies only through the prism of if you lock down the world for eternity,

00:30:22.580 then you can mitigate the spread of the virus.

00:30:26.920 So it's a singular variable that you're trying to optimize rather than what the average three-day-old pigeon should know,

00:30:35.160 which is that the world is made up of multifactorial phenomena.

00:30:39.060 So if you lock up children for three years, there will be downstream consequences of that.

00:30:46.660 Well, now suddenly people said, what?

00:30:49.940 Multifactorial?

00:30:50.720 We never knew this in medical school.

00:30:53.400 We didn't know about this. 0.99

00:30:54.680 We only knew about mitigation of, I mean, it's literally at that level of imbecility.

00:30:59.500 But I studied applied mathematics, so I knew that the world is made up of multivariate phenomena, multiple variable.

00:31:06.940 So when it comes to immigration, yes, we're a country of immigrants, but we're a country of legal immigrants.

00:31:15.760 And the immigration process has to be non-parasitic, meaning that for me granting you entry into my society, 0.80

00:31:26.240 the net benefit to my society must outweigh the costs to my society. 0.95

00:31:32.020 You don't chant death to America in the friggin' streets. 0.96

00:31:36.340 It's bananas. 0.99

00:31:38.340 Exactly.

00:31:39.100 So once you come into the country and you bring in, hey, when we become majority here, 0.94

00:31:47.860 it's going to be gravity-based conversion therapy for LGBTQ people, meaning off from the highest buildings, 1.00

00:31:56.060 then we don't need you here. 0.99

00:31:57.740 If it's death to all Jews, then we don't need you here. 1.00

00:32:01.980 So anybody is welcome in, as long as the net benefits outweigh the costs, as long as we can vet you, 0.97

00:32:10.240 as long as any values that are contrary to the foundational values of the host society are not incongruent with each other,

00:32:20.460 then come in, my brother, and please contribute to society. 0.99

00:32:23.680 Otherwise, don't let the door hit your ass all the way. 0.99

00:32:27.320 Bring the food, bring the fashion, right? 0.99

00:32:28.880 Okay, but then how?

00:32:30.080 Okay, so great.

00:32:30.780 You've single-handedly solved immigration. 0.97

00:32:33.560 I did.

00:32:33.980 Why, Ken?

00:32:35.160 And it was very easy.

00:32:36.560 It made perfect sense to me.

00:32:37.700 Because it's not empathetic.

00:32:40.400 What is empathy actually?

00:32:42.340 Is it just always self-serving?

00:32:44.360 What is this emotion?

00:32:46.380 And what is the evolutionary purpose of it?

00:32:48.480 And then subsequently, how did it get dysregulated?

00:32:51.440 Beautiful.

00:32:51.840 So let me step back and explain two levels of explanation when it comes to evolutionary theory.

00:33:01.320 Okay?

00:33:02.060 So most scientific explanations operate at what's called the proximate level.

00:33:09.420 Proximate level is explaining the how and the what of a phenomenon.

00:33:14.980 So much of science, 99.9% of science operates at the proximate level.

00:33:20.860 You want to understand how diabetes works?

00:33:23.800 Here is how it works.

00:33:25.480 What are the factors that increase the likelihood of you having a spike in your sugar?

00:33:30.740 So it explains the how and the what.

00:33:33.040 It's the mechanistic explanation of a phenomenon.

00:33:36.700 There is a second layer that almost no person knows about, including most scientists.

00:33:42.580 That's called the ultimate level of an explanation.

00:33:47.020 Ultimate level doesn't mean ultimate, it's superior.

00:33:50.520 It means it explains the Darwinian why.

00:33:53.860 Why did the mechanism evolve to be of that form?

00:33:58.000 I could address empathy from a proximate perspective or I could address empathy to your question, what is the evolutionary reason why we would have evolved our emotional system in general and this particular emotion in particular?

00:34:15.620 Well, empathy is part of the group of emotions that you would need if you're a social species, right?

00:34:25.220 Because part of being a social species, for you and I to have a meaningful interaction, we have to have a process called theory of mind.

00:34:36.740 Theory of mind allows me to put myself in your mind so that I can experience things through your eyes.

00:34:44.980 And it is that process that then allows us to have meaningful interactions.

00:34:49.140 By the way, autistic children don't have theory of mind. 1.00

00:34:53.060 So one of the ways that you're able to diagnose a young child, you can't give a blood test to know if somebody has autism.

00:35:01.820 So you usually administer to them a theory of mind test, which autistic children typically fail. 0.99

00:35:08.300 So empathy, while distinct from theory of mind, fits that rubric, which is there is a bunch of emotional systems that are needed if you're going to live in bands.

00:35:21.680 One of which is empathy, one of which is empathy, right?

00:35:24.000 But there are also dark emotions that are part of our evolutionary repertoire.

00:35:29.100 So for example, the opposite of, say, empathy or forgiveness and so on, those positive emotions, is vengefulness, is revenge, right?

00:35:40.360 Which itself has an evolutionary argument, right?

00:35:44.480 Imagine if we didn't evolve the capacity to severely retaliate if there's been wrongdoing done to us.

00:35:53.300 Then we would be completely parasitized by the other, right?

00:35:57.300 Because they could do anything they want to me and they would never have to fear me retaliating.

00:36:02.920 So studying emotions from an evolutionary perspective yields all sorts of new insights that if you weren't coming from an evolutionary perspective, you would never tackle.

00:36:13.080 Immediately when you talked about the necessity of vengefulness, I thought about Jesus and turning the other cheek.

00:36:21.340 Why would we, you know, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

00:36:26.560 Why would we try to root this out?

00:36:31.500 Because I try to root it out of myself, to be honest.

00:36:34.300 I think of that as a very low emotion.

00:36:38.980 And I think of scenarios where I would not be unable to take revenge, like if somebody hurt my child.

00:36:45.460 And I think that makes me less than to this day.

00:36:49.320 So why is this like a part of most, I would imagine most religions is trying to rise above that emotion?

00:36:56.440 Look, for example, when you say, and I talk, what I'm about to say, I discuss in the parasitic mind.

00:37:02.340 When you hear the prescription, don't judge lest you will be judged.

00:37:07.880 The way that people take it in contemporary society, in contemporary environment, it's a deontological rule.

00:37:16.020 Under no circumstances, don't ever judge someone.

00:37:19.940 Who am I to judge?

00:37:21.160 Who am I to write?

00:37:22.580 That's not what it means. 0.99

00:37:23.940 What it means, if you read it properly, is that don't be a moral hypocrite. 0.93

00:37:30.360 Don't judge others if you are.

00:37:32.640 It's not an indiscriminate rule to be applied across all contexts, times, and places, whereby you shut off my judging mechanism.

00:37:44.380 No, no.

00:37:45.020 I judge.

00:37:46.020 I judge all the time. 1.00

00:37:47.720 I hate those who cut off the clitorises of five-year-old girls. 1.00

00:37:51.680 I judge. 1.00

00:37:52.380 I judge pedophiles. 0.91

00:37:54.700 I judge.

00:37:55.800 I belong to the society of judgment and decision-making, right?

00:38:01.580 When you study psychology of decision-making, one term for decision-making is judgment.

00:38:07.160 Choosing between alternatives, you're making a judgment.

00:38:10.400 So this idea that to forego judging is a deontological argument is complete nonsense.

00:38:17.760 It's not true.

00:38:18.560 It's a misunderstanding of what that moral edict is, right? 0.99

00:38:22.880 Don't be a moral hypocrite. 0.88

00:38:24.960 Don't judge others for being disloyal in their marriage when you're sleeping around on your wife, and hence be morally consistent. 0.99

00:38:33.540 So you see what I'm saying?

00:38:35.580 So a lot of these moral prescriptions that you're likely to come up with are oftentimes misinterpreted in the most charitable of ways.

00:38:46.900 Eye for an eye, I mean, yes, everybody goes blind. 0.98

00:38:50.960 But many people understand it as eye for an eye means you kill my son, I kill yours.

00:38:57.140 That's why in many places, certainly in the Middle East, it literally is a blood feud like this.

00:39:02.760 Even if you accidentally killed one of my children, it was never meant to be. 0.99

00:39:07.660 The only way that the circle of justice could be completed is if I kill one of yours. 0.98

00:39:13.720 So it is perfectly natural to experience the sense of vengefulness. 0.99

00:39:19.460 If anything, I would argue it's barbaric if you'd never feel that.

00:39:24.520 It's inhumane.

00:39:25.900 Wow, okay.

00:39:27.360 Speaking on empathy for a second.

00:39:29.580 Sure.

00:39:29.960 When I analyze this emotion, as we get into kind of a few examples here where you've got transgender athletes and you want people to sort of be empathetic to what it must feel like to be transgender, the struggle this person must be going through, to understand that we have to be sensitive and respectful in having the conversation.

00:39:54.120 But equally, you want the other side to appreciate that biological males, people born with XY chromosomes, are going to be physically stronger than people born with XX chromosomes.

00:40:08.180 But for some reason, number one, we apply our empathy to only one side.

00:40:16.060 And I'm wondering, why is that happening?

00:40:20.800 Why are we incapable of applying empathy?

00:40:25.880 A pregnant mother, an unborn child, nuanced, but I definitely see both sides of this.

00:40:35.580 Now, personally, I'm pro-choice, but there's no question that I see both sides.

00:40:41.080 Israel, Palestine, I feel for both sides of innocence.

00:40:45.600 Why are we Israel, Palestine, transgender, biological, why is this only going one way?

00:40:58.720 Yeah, so that, I mean, you're asking the question that the next book is exactly meant to address, right?

00:41:06.240 Which is the misapplication, the dysregulation of empathy results in policy decisions that are disastrous, right?

00:41:16.520 So now we can then address the question of, but why is the dysregulation happening?

00:41:21.640 But let's at first discuss more generally the idea of how we have all evolved to discriminate, not discriminate in the racist sense, discriminate as a psychophysical process, right?

00:41:38.460 I discriminate when it comes to investing in my biological children versus random children.

00:41:49.740 That doesn't make me callous.

00:41:52.100 It doesn't make me Hitler.

00:41:54.020 It makes me an evolutionary being that recognizes, whether consciously or not, I recognize it consciously because I'm an evolutionary scientist,

00:42:02.900 but even if I didn't recognize it consciously, that my children, my biological children are my pathway to immortality.

00:42:12.500 That's why I'm willing to jump in front of a truck, have myself killed so that my children can be alive.

00:42:21.340 I'm going to be less likely to engage in that behavior if I'm going to take the risk to save a kid that is in Mauritania.

00:42:30.460 Not because I don't wish for children in Mauritania to live fulfilled lives, but in a world of limited resources, we've evolved the emotional, the cognitive, and the behavioral systems that mets out our investments strategically in a discriminating manner.

00:42:50.920 Discriminate doesn't mean discriminate in the ACLU sense.

00:42:55.160 It means discriminate between targets of my altruism.

00:42:59.140 It means discriminate across targets of my empathy.

00:43:04.760 You're getting a preview of the next book, by the way.

00:43:06.900 I hope that people will still buy it when it comes.

00:43:09.060 No, they need to pre-order it.

00:43:11.000 They will absolutely.

00:43:13.780 Yes.

00:43:14.200 So as you can see, it makes evolutionary sense that we all be strategic in the manner that we met out our investments, our time, our allocation of effort, our empathy, our compassion.

00:43:29.460 What happens with the progressives, hence when you were on the left and the Cenk Uygur and so on, is that that mechanism misfires so that it alters the evolved calculus of how these things should be meted.

00:43:46.380 It doesn't make evolutionary sense for you to care more about the homeless people in your children's park that are defecating, fornicating, and shooting up crystal meth more than you care about the children's rights to play without those stimuli there.

00:44:04.680 But when I become so progressive, so kind-hearted, I realize that it simply is unfair to punish those noble homeless people. 0.94

00:44:15.760 And therefore, sorry, children, it's time for you to see Bobby masturbating in the park while shooting up heroin.

00:44:22.860 So what ends up happening with all of these decisions from the super smarmy, smart progressives is it blows up their empathy system so that it's always targeting the wrong target.

00:44:37.900 But to your point earlier, nobody is saying that transgender people don't have a right to live dignified lives free of bigotry.

00:44:48.160 But that one person who's truly a transgender person, their rights don't supersede the rights of the 999 biological women who spent the last 10 years training to hopefully get on the podium.

00:45:05.340 Life is about pros and cons.

00:45:08.420 Life is about trade-offs.

00:45:10.380 So no one is contesting that transgender people have rights.

00:45:14.620 Their rights don't supersede those of biological women. 1.00

00:45:17.960 So the entire book, Suicidal Empathy, goes through all of these decisions, demonstrating that once you have a dysregulation of this otherwise noble emotion, shit happens.

00:45:30.260 Okay, I want to talk about the way you're discriminating with your empathy.

00:45:39.240 And it's like I'll protect my kids before someone else's kids or my wife before someone else's wife because they are my legacy and my path to immortality.

00:45:47.600 So inherently, and this is something that I've been struggling with personally, is empathy selfish?

00:45:54.360 Because I always thought empathy meant you weren't selfish.

00:45:57.860 You were this really good, selfless person.

00:46:00.220 But as I have begun to analyze where I'm empathetic, I find it self-serving.

00:46:08.640 And that makes, I don't even, that's why I'm asking this bigger question of what is this emotion and why has it evolved?

00:46:15.780 And you've made perfect sense of it for me.

00:46:18.060 Is there a form of empathy that isn't self-serving?

00:46:21.300 Like even when I see somebody or something, like I saw an animal that was in distress and I wanted to save the animal.

00:46:29.360 And I thought, like I'm on the freeway chasing it, don't even ask.

00:46:33.000 And the long and the short of it is, I was like, am I trying to stop myself from feeling deeply upset if something happens to this animal?

00:46:41.580 Am I relating to the animal?

00:46:43.120 Am I identifying with the animal?

00:46:44.660 It's like rush hour traffic. 0.99

00:46:45.980 I look like a lunatic. 0.80

00:46:47.020 I'm stopping traffic. 0.81

00:46:48.440 And the long and the short of it is, is it selfish what I'm doing when I see somebody who's struggling with something and I feel like my heart breaks and I want to fix it?

00:46:58.000 I ran into a woman the other day who was morbidly obese and she just had brain surgery. 1.00

00:47:03.680 And I swear to God, I was depressed the rest of the night.

00:47:06.480 And I thought, okay, this isn't because I'm some sort of great person.

00:47:09.380 This is obviously triggering something in me that makes me feel like the animal on the freeway or the woman that needs help.

00:47:15.800 So is empathy really selfish because it's about the part of you that is self-preserving?

00:47:21.420 A bit of both.

00:47:22.340 Okay.

00:47:22.580 That's a fantastic question.

00:47:24.000 I'm going to hit you with another one of those mind-blowing answers.

00:47:27.500 Get ready.

00:47:27.760 I'm ready.

00:47:28.740 First of all, I completely empathize with your position on the animal that's in distress.

00:47:37.540 I just spent five weeks with my family in Newport Beach.

00:47:41.400 And on one of our last days in Southern California, we saw a gorgeous female seal that had just beached itself on one of the beaches in Newport Beach.

00:47:54.620 And she was acting in a very strange way that you wouldn't expect.

00:48:00.360 And it turns out that she was suffering from exposure to a particular algae.

00:48:05.840 I can't remember the name of the disease.

00:48:07.620 Yes, it's a big thing in California.

00:48:09.120 Exactly.

00:48:09.680 It happens a lot.

00:48:10.760 I mean, literally, they're parasitized in a sense.

00:48:14.660 I mean, not in the way that I've been talking, but it's literally affecting them neurologically and so on.

00:48:19.040 Now, the marine biology center that handles these things came over, took her.

00:48:25.300 I took the phone number and I have since, like we've been back now for almost three weeks.

00:48:30.740 So they called, they now, they called her, they christened her Robin.

00:48:35.500 So here I am, 3,000 miles away, texting them every few days saying, can you give me an update on Robin?

00:48:44.440 And to your point, there is absolutely no evolutionary benefit that I am reaping in feeling this great empathy and love and compassion for an animal.

00:48:55.120 So that mechanism could be channeled in different ways.

00:48:59.620 Yes, empathy could be deployed for absolutely no benefits, but it's very rare.

00:49:07.720 What is it going to take then?

00:49:09.460 I'll tell you what it's going to take.

00:49:10.540 Well, first of all, we all read Presidic Mind because you taught me how to fight back.

00:49:15.180 And that's what everyone needs to learn to do.

00:49:17.020 So if you're awake and you're wondering what the hell is going on, you need to learn how to steel man your arguments and how to plant yourself firmly in your area of expertise.

00:49:29.620 So there is an immediate way to solve it and there is a long-term way.

00:49:35.040 Give me both.

00:49:35.720 So I am in the long view in that I'm trying to change people's minds.

00:49:44.640 I'm trying to teach them how to critically think.

00:49:47.360 I'm trying to administer the mind vaccine, inoculate them against parasitic thinking.

00:49:52.620 Now, that's great and that will be successful, but it doesn't happen overnight, right?

00:49:58.620 It takes for you to read the book, internalize the book, think about it, and then maybe down the line you go, oh, yes, I'm with you now.

00:50:05.440 So that's the long view.

00:50:06.960 The short view is you need to put people in power who could enact cataclysmic changes.

00:50:14.700 That's why Donald Trump is so despised because he is such a danger to the status quo, to the globalists, to the, in French, you say, les bien-pensants, the anointed ones, the good thinkers, the people with the progressive lisp.

00:50:33.380 You see, now I'm speaking with a lisp because I am haughty.

00:50:37.020 I am more intelligent than you.

00:50:38.920 You see my lisp?

00:50:39.760 You see that progressive lisp?

00:50:40.860 So that's why Trump is so reviled because he is in the- 1.00

00:50:45.640 He does some horrible shit, though, too, boss. 1.00

00:50:47.960 He does. 1.00

00:50:48.740 By the way, just for you to know, in Canada, we've had now Justin Trudeau for three terms.

00:50:53.940 Do you know how many thousands of people have written to me and said, oh, my God, I wish I would have listened to you when you were warning us on the top of the mountain?

00:51:04.840 I'm saying this not to be gleeful and to be the guy who said, I told you so.

00:51:08.320 But it's precisely because people get raptured.

00:51:12.560 In Arabic, I may have said this before, maybe not, but it's worth repeating even if I've said it.

00:51:17.000 Imagine this is the cork of the wine bottle.

00:51:19.180 Do you know what I'm about to do or you've never seen me do this before?

00:51:22.400 Have you?

00:51:22.840 No, I don't think so.

00:51:23.840 So imagine if this is the cork of the wine bottle.

00:51:26.300 There is an expression in Arabic that says, getting drunk by smelling the cork of the wine bottle, which basically is a metaphor for someone who is of weak constituency.

00:51:39.380 In other words, I don't need to actually drink the entire bottle of wine to get drunk.

00:51:43.940 I just smell it and I'm already drunk.

00:51:46.980 Now, how does this apply to what we're talking about?

00:51:50.020 Look now, I'm going to get drunk by the Kamala cork, right?

00:51:53.620 Look, joy, happiness.

00:51:56.240 I'm already drunk.

00:51:57.220 I'm already getting, I'm swayed.

00:51:58.640 You see it?

00:51:59.140 Look at me.

00:51:59.540 I'm getting drunk.

00:52:00.840 Now, look, I'm going to get drunk on the Trump. 1.00

00:52:04.980 He's disgusting. 1.00

00:52:06.440 He speaks like a Bronx guy or Queens, right? 0.98

00:52:09.960 At no point did I say I love Kamala because of her fiscal policy or I hate Trump because of, you know, tax policy.

00:52:17.880 It's always getting drunk by the smell of the cork bottle.

00:52:22.720 Raw motion.

00:52:23.340 How it makes you feel without thinking logically through the choices of what policy they intend to implement and what that means.

00:52:33.820 That's, that's why, by the way, I wrote the article, which is going to come out soon in Newsweek because it's a short article.

00:52:41.360 It's probably six, 800 words.

00:52:43.700 And I'm summarizing a lot of the things that I've said here in a very succinct way, hoping to reach as many people.

00:52:49.300 So I'm not telling you to vote for Trump.

00:52:51.260 I'm just saying activate your cognitive system.

00:52:55.360 This is too consequential a decision for you to use joy and fun as the justification for why you're choosing for one or the other.

00:53:03.220 Just think, stop, think, and then choose.

00:53:06.620 And diversify your news feed.

00:53:10.620 Oh my God.

00:53:12.080 Because it's like, it is a one-way river of propaganda on both sides.

00:53:20.420 On both sides.

00:53:21.140 That's where it's like, please, mother of God, for the sake of everyone's sanity, especially your own, diversify your news feed. 0.97

00:53:30.160 Get the parasitic mind. 0.99

00:53:31.900 And doc, since you have a million books, which one would you, I mean, parasitic mind, Elon Musk posted about it.

00:53:41.700 And I was like, well, I felt a little bit special because, I mean, I knew about it years ago.

00:53:47.300 But not that special because Joe Rogan knew about it way before me.

00:53:50.920 So what should people do?

00:53:55.280 What can they consume of yours, especially since you don't have suicidal empathy out yet, pre-order it?

00:54:03.840 What's the, how do they immunize themselves against this or become more self-aware?

00:54:09.580 Yeah.

00:54:09.820 So I would, so my earlier books are more technical, academic, scientific books.

00:54:15.000 So they're great, but many people might not, might find them a bit more difficult to read, although they certainly can.

00:54:20.960 So I would suggest if you're interested in, today we actually touched upon a lot of this evolutionary psychology stuff and evolutionary theory stuff.

00:54:28.860 So if they're interested in that stuff, then this book right here, The Consuming Instinct, what juicy burgers, pornography, Ferraris, and gift-giving reveal about human nature.

00:54:39.340 So this is a book where I demonstrate how you could apply evolutionary psychology to consumer behavior and to behavior in general.

00:54:46.080 So that would be one.

00:54:47.160 If you want to inoculate yourself against all of these ideological brain worms, then of course The Parasitic Mind.

00:54:53.840 And then my most recent book, the one before the one that I'm writing now, Suicidal Empathy, is The Sad Truth About Happiness, which is a book that's very, very different than The Parasitic Mind.

00:55:03.760 The Parasitic Mind is what happens to brains when things go wrong.

00:55:07.520 The happiness book is what are some mindsets that we can adopt based on my personal experience, based on ancient wisdoms, based on contemporary science that can lead us to be happy.

00:55:19.060 Now, that was a daunting book to write because, you know, many people have written about how, I mean, going back to the ancient Greeks about how to live a good life.

00:55:27.060 But my personal story is unique.

00:55:29.680 And so therefore, there's a really lot of fun reading in that book.

00:55:33.020 While it did very well, it didn't nearly do as well as Parasitic Mind because that one was really stratospheric.

00:55:40.600 So I hope that people give that one a chance.

00:55:42.580 It's a great read.

00:55:43.600 It's about happiness, the good life, and so on.

00:55:45.960 So those are probably the three books that I would start with.

00:55:48.660 And your show, The Sad Truths.

00:55:50.420 You've had, oh my God, I saw a statistic about this.

00:55:53.280 It's like tens of millions of views.

00:55:55.680 Yeah, you know, it's amazing because, you know, I just opened the laptop in 2014, not having a clue whether I would get one viewer or five or ten, but I really had the sense of self-assuredness that, you know, I think I've got a certain set of skills that maybe people will resonate with.

00:56:13.740 And to your kind point, or, you know, 10 years later, 35 plus million views, millions of downloads.

00:56:22.380 I mean, it's just, it's mind-blowing.

00:56:23.920 And that's what, by the way, makes it difficult for me to revert back to only writing academic papers.

00:56:31.920 Although I remain very much of an academic at heart, you write an academic paper, it takes you three years to do it, and then 50 people will cite it in 10 years.

00:56:42.440 So it's very hard when you live in a world with limited time currency, do I want to get on Jillian Michaels' show where I might reach, I don't know, thousands and thousands of people?

00:56:54.000 So this is where I currently am in my career.

00:56:57.180 Do I continue down the pathway of all popularizing science?

00:57:01.540 And so, yeah, it's a tough decision to make, but it's a good conundrum to have.

00:57:07.920 We need you doing what you're doing.

00:57:09.300 And, guys, we will have all of this in the show notes.

00:57:12.880 Boss, thank you for everything that you're doing.

00:57:14.700 Thank you for coming back on.

00:57:16.080 Thank you for this personal therapy session.

00:57:18.660 I continue to worship at the altar.

00:57:22.160 And I just love you madly.

00:57:23.800 Thank you.

00:57:24.060 I know it's family time.

00:57:25.260 It's family time now.

00:57:26.020 Thank you.

00:57:26.340 You made that clear.

00:57:27.260 Please go and say hi to the wife and the dogs.

00:57:29.940 Thank you.

00:57:30.660 Thank you so much.

00:57:31.580 Take care.

00:57:31.860 Thank you so much for watching.

00:57:35.260 If you enjoyed the podcast, please like, comment, subscribe, and share.

00:57:40.820 And make sure to let me know what guests you want to see on in the future.

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The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - October 30, 2024

Woke Culture is Killing Society - Keeping It Real with Jillian Michaels (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_737)

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