The Shadoe Davis Show - April 30th⧸2026- W⧸Canadian Hero Jeff Evely!

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00:02:17.980 good evening everybody how you doing welcome to the shadow davis show this is thursday april 30th

00:02:22.700 the final day of april for 2026 we're out live on all of the platforms tonight so we're out on

00:02:28.420 facebook we're out on youtube we're out on twitch we're out on x rumble uh telegram and of course

00:02:34.460 the website shadow davis.com we have a special guest tonight for you he is a canadian hero in

00:02:39.760 my opinion probably yours as well he's done so much for canadians in the past few years guarding

00:02:45.720 the national uh war monument during the freedom convoy in 2022 which he was arrested for he also

00:02:52.240 took a walk in the woods in nova scotia last year defying the government's unconstitutional order

00:02:59.220 that you can't walk in the woods section six i believe it's mobility rights he won that case

00:03:05.000 we're going to talk a little bit about that then of course there's a big event coming up in ottawa

00:03:09.400 next week it's called mayday it's uh for it's difficult to express really it's for you to be

00:03:18.520 aware of the trans movement in canada and how entrenched it really is what they're doing in

00:03:25.500 hospitals what they're doing in schools what they're doing in society in general still happening

00:03:30.300 in canada even though the united states is largely moved past it you can still see it in dribs and

00:03:35.820 drabs and little pockets of blue states in the united states but ultimately yesterday a court

00:03:41.060 ruling came down in america that says hey man conversion therapy is not conversion therapy at

00:03:46.200 all. Any doctor who is dealing with a trans patient should be able to delve into their

00:03:52.020 background to find out the root causes for why they feel as they do, if they're a boy wanting

00:03:57.060 to be a girl or vice versa. In Canada, that's illegal. Even if a parent tries to speak to their

00:04:05.300 trans child about it, they could be arrested and it has happened in this country, in Saskatchewan 1.00

00:04:12.900 and british columbia jeff evely is our guest tonight and we're going to bring him on in just

00:04:19.140 a couple of minutes also a very hard-hitting video that we're going to play for you as well

00:04:23.660 so jeff evely is our guest we'll be right back with him in one minute and seven seconds

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00:05:42.900 well might as well join me here shadow it's the jeff evely show ladies and gentlemen uh welcome

00:05:48.180 jeff thank you for coming back on tonight you've been a busy guy these past few months uh you've

00:05:52.440 got a big thing coming up next week in ottawa bikers church uh i only found out about this

00:05:57.820 yesterday our friend sherry say louis uh tuned me in about it and i went whoa okay we got to get

00:06:04.440 this on so and and i also want to talk to you obviously about the court case that you

00:06:08.560 recently won in nova scotia so again welcome to the show we'll talk about mayday kids in crisis

00:06:14.960 in just a moment first dude you got a ticket for 28 000 for walking in the woods last year was it

00:06:22.920 more or less or or just about 28 grand 28 872 dollars and 50 cents right right now you did that

00:06:30.460 in front right in front of the rcmp you walked in there you told them what you were going to do

00:06:34.380 you did it right in front of their faces and they wrote you the ticket immediately you had to wait

00:06:39.060 for a few months for the court date you got in there you argued your case and the decision came

00:06:44.680 down was it last week or the week before yeah i think it was last week i you know i don't have a

00:06:49.140 very good concept of time these days like you said i'm pretty busy yeah me too that's why i'm asking

00:06:53.280 so um you won congratulations man has your ticket been voided yet um no not officially yet that's uh

00:07:01.360 in progress um there were a few other tickets uh woods walkers that were issued so uh it might just

00:07:07.600 kind of be a matter of you know bundling them together and uh getting them dismissed but walkers

00:07:14.240 yeah yeah apparently that's what the crown calls them criminals honestly you're a woods walker

00:07:21.760 nazi man oh yeah it's like vaccine denier or surprised they didn't call me a wildfire denier

00:07:28.960 great work by the jccf on that as well yeah yeah absolutely and it was a pleasure to work with them

00:07:36.060 again they represented me in my convoy trial i had the same lawyer um for the tickets the

00:07:40.740 the case that we just had though there were there were actually two cases um so the the

00:07:46.000 canadian constitution foundation they submitted one in the public interest and uh these were the

00:07:50.840 charter challenges um and the jccf they submitted one in my private interest um so we had two civil

00:07:57.200 organizations, one private interest, one public interest. And honestly, like when we were in

00:08:03.220 courts presenting these charter challenges, I thought it was an open and shut case on the first

00:08:08.260 day, like in the morning when the CCF got up and argued their case. And the government really made

00:08:14.960 our case for us well in advance because they actually submitted written arguments that said

00:08:20.800 that our right to freedom of movement does not mean that we have the right to move freely in

00:08:26.560 a free society they're like uh yeah i i i know i i'm not kidding and they were actually citing

00:08:33.960 the magna carta in the courtroom and the judge was joking about it and saying you know i don't

00:08:39.220 want to have to go back to you know the king's decree of 1105 or something like that yes we've

00:08:43.680 had the right to move freely for 800 years so you know i find it interesting that uh

00:08:51.260 lawyers and in some cases judges have found a way in these last five or six years to be able to turn

00:09:00.000 the charter of rights and freedoms upside down against us and actually take a right that's in

00:09:05.820 there and turn it into a right for the people that you're supposedly infringing on it it's very

00:09:11.680 strange how they've managed to turn this into a bizarro world really well yeah and the the

00:09:18.800 government lawyer was even saying that it was like what about everybody else's rights and the

00:09:23.140 rights that uh that jeff evely trampled and i'm like what this guy doesn't even know what a right

00:09:28.000 is like a right is a freedom uh that the government may not infringe that's that's what it means uh

00:09:34.580 and and it's gotten all mixed up with things like entitlements and things like that in the last few

00:09:39.120 years like people seem to think like you're you know even a right to health care quite frankly

00:09:43.420 um is is not it's not supposed to be an entitlement it's supposed to be nobody may get in your way

00:09:48.700 when you're trying to access health care yeah but you know i mean this is and and then of course

00:09:54.760 individual rights which is something that's becoming a very large argument these days there's

00:09:59.860 the collective rights of others which is more of a communistic look at things and then there's the

00:10:04.280 individual rights you know you know what i say to those people that argue for uh community rights

00:10:09.040 the rights of the larger group i say have you ever uttered the phrase it's my life in your entire

00:10:16.040 life because that's basically what our society is based upon it's my life shut up stop telling me

00:10:21.720 what to do i'll make my own decisions for myself right and as long as i'm not harming you and you

00:10:27.880 see this is where the argument comes in right well you could set off a fire just by walking in the

00:10:32.840 woods which was absolutely did that come up in the court case at all uh yeah i think the the judge

00:10:39.000 actually referred to the crown's uh speculation as fanciful um he used that word because what the

00:10:45.160 crown tried to argue is that uh presumably i had a cell phone while i was walking and i could have

00:10:49.320 dropped my cell phone and it could have generated a spark off of a rock and uh and set a wildfire

00:10:55.560 like my my rubber case where's my cell phone you know it's it's right here um you know it's like a

00:11:02.280 plastic screen protector on the front and a rubber case on the back that that might have caused a

00:11:07.960 wildfire if it fell in my pocket and then and then the question is you know well what about falling

00:11:12.600 rocks are we gonna ban those well like cars we could ban pretty much anything if we're talking

00:11:19.740 about this this constant safety issue it's always for your safety right so uh after the ruling came

00:11:26.980 out your premier tim houston came out and said i'll do it again i've got the clip watch this

00:11:32.400 appeal the decision i don't think so it's i'm not i'm not aware of an appeal being prepared it's kind

00:11:39.500 come and gone and as we move forward i as premier will certainly look at circumstances in it that

00:11:46.000 are in front of me at any given moment in time and i will always do what is necessary to keep

00:11:51.900 people safe to keep property safe every single time we'll make that decision we'll do that again

00:11:57.480 if necessary like the guy just doesn't get it he's had the court rule against him now is there

00:12:06.220 an appeal possible do you think you know i'm not a lawyer but it was a very succinct decision like

00:12:14.020 the mosley ruling was like 120 pages mine was 17 um so i i think it was it was pretty open and shut

00:12:22.520 and the thing is um a couple of different legal tests came into play and the one that was kind

00:12:27.560 of front and center was called the dore test um and you know the it's it's about well well first

00:12:33.100 of all, like there's, it's a reasonableness standards that we're after here. And the standard

00:12:37.160 for reasonableness comes from Vavilov, but before you even get to Vavilov, there's the, um, the

00:12:43.120 Dore test and the first step in the Dore test, um, is did they actually consider our charter rights

00:12:49.600 before rendering the decision? There was no evidence in the record anywhere that they had

00:12:54.460 any awareness of the fact that we had rights. And even in the section of their own briefings,

00:12:59.460 uh prepared for the minister under the heading legal the only thing they considered was the

00:13:04.900 possibility that they might get sued by industry so they'd better permit industry to go in there

00:13:09.800 and we we got all the permits that they issued too they actually permitted industry to light fires

00:13:14.340 in in the woods but heaven forbid you should go for a walk with your dog in the way and then of

00:13:20.480 course there was the way they roped it off or taped it off as well right like this is the woods

00:13:25.080 this isn't the woods. Those videos you did illustrated that perfectly. Now, some people

00:13:29.260 have said, hey, what if they decide they're going to use the notwithstanding clause and try and

00:13:36.080 overturn this and go ahead and do it again next year if it's another dry season and forest fires

00:13:40.360 keep popping up everywhere. But a further look says you can't use the notwithstanding clause

00:13:45.520 on this kind of violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Yeah, you can't use it

00:13:49.840 against mobility rights that's true yeah so if he tries to do it again like i wonder what's going

00:13:55.400 to happen he said he would so is that just posturing is that trying to make himself look

00:14:00.660 good like he's not backing down or is that like an actual thing that he will he will consider doing

00:14:05.460 uh you know i i think he's just a tyrant um this is the guy who got elected on a promise not to

00:14:12.660 impose vaccine passports or mandates and they did exactly that as soon as he did get elected

00:14:18.360 He banned us from lining the overpasses, waving our flags and signs while the truckers were on their way to Ottawa.

00:14:25.460 Meanwhile, everybody else in the country was doing it.

00:14:27.920 So he infringed our right to freedom of expression and, you know, to protest.

00:14:35.040 And then, you know, he fired all the nurses who didn't take the vaccine, violating like those are human rights violations.

00:14:43.080 It's right in his own human rights legislation.

00:14:45.180 And then at a town hall, the bureaucrats got up there and said, well, this is our policy.

00:14:49.080 And well, your policy contravenes the provincial legislation on human rights.

00:14:53.180 But they're like, yeah, but it's our policy.

00:14:55.460 And our policy is to violate your human rights.

00:14:58.080 Yes.

00:14:59.360 And, you know, and he did the Woods ban in 2023 as well.

00:15:04.560 And I tried to take them to court at that time, self-representing.

00:15:08.220 I tried arguing private interest and public interest.

00:15:10.780 and ultimately like they tried um arguing mootness because the ban was lifted by the time it got to

00:15:15.500 court but um they uh ultimately they dismissed it on standing and the judge said at that time that

00:15:21.740 had i been fined then that would have given me standing because that's financial harm so when

00:15:26.060 they came in with it this time i was like well i know what i got to do to get it in front of

00:15:28.940 the judge i got to go take the fine 28 grand that's a big risk i mean you know it's funny

00:15:33.900 because i called you and you might go stop it called you a canadian hero on x today and on

00:15:39.420 facebook when i was promoting this appearance on the show tonight by you and somebody said hero he

00:15:45.340 knew he had a team of lawyers going into this case and uh it was a slam dunk you know you you took a

00:15:52.460 twenty eight thousand dollar ticket then and there's no guarantee especially with the court 0.99

00:15:57.100 system the way it is in canada these past few years and some of the stupid rulings we've been 0.94

00:16:01.900 getting there was absolutely zero guarantee that you were going to win this you know i'm happy to 0.84

00:16:07.100 to hear you say on day one that you went okay well it looks like we've got it but i mean all

00:16:11.660 the anticipation leading up to that must have been terrible because you don't know which way

00:16:16.080 it's going to go with these woke judges no you absolutely don't so i thought that this was about

00:16:22.400 as good a shot as we were going to get even when i did it um and but i knew that it was a risk like

00:16:28.400 just uh i said in interviews even um like you know when i was viral uh from the uh the video

00:16:35.620 that i did of me getting the fine um i i even said in uh in interviews there's been nothing but bad

00:16:42.100 precedent set in the last several years so really um i think this is the best shot that we have but

00:16:48.020 it's anybody's guess okay so i just wanted to say congratulations on that thank you once again for

00:16:53.860 setting an example for canadians uh hopefully you know what what you do aside from you know winning

00:16:58.100 this this case is you know kind of set off a chain reaction of canadians standing up all across the

00:17:03.460 country i mean like what we had at the ostrich farm last year was fantastic those people standing

00:17:07.620 up against the government overreach and let's hope we start seeing more and more and more of that

00:17:12.340 because there's no way they could possibly pick us all off and the liberals seem intent on overreaching

00:17:19.300 every chance they get i mean look what they're doing with committees in the last couple of days

00:17:22.500 they're shutting them down they're shutting the cameras off they don't want people to know about

00:17:26.100 their scandals i want to talk about uh this uh event that you have coming up in ottawa next week

00:17:32.500 This is the May Day Kids in Crisis event.

00:17:36.860 We can talk about this a little bit.

00:17:38.180 I also want to put on the video that you've shared on your social medias, Jeff.

00:17:42.580 This is a big thing that, like I said, I only heard about just yesterday.

00:17:46.600 May Day Kids in Crisis.

00:17:48.420 You're going to be at Parliament Hill, but also Bikers Church, correct? 0.98

00:17:51.900 Yeah, that's right.

00:17:52.780 So we're doing Parliamentary Press Gallery at 10.30 in the morning,

00:17:55.840 a rally on the hill at 1 p.m., and the town hall at 6 p.m. down at Bikers Church.

00:18:02.500 Our keynote speaker is trans man Scott Nugent of what is a woman fame, who transitioned to male at the age of 42 and is now 53 and has all the health complications, has been a very powerful advocate against childhood transition.

00:18:18.040 Speaking of powerful advocates against childhood transition, we also have Mia Hughes, we have Dr. Ann Gillies, Barry Neufeld, who got the $750,000 fine.

00:18:26.680 We got Kelly Lynn Pirey, who founded the D-Trans Alliance, Faith Crowloo, who's a young D-Transitioner turned activist, Chris Fleury, who's the lawyer who's representing Cosbar in the case to try to get males out of female prisons, and yours truly, the father of a victim of gender ideology.

00:18:47.160 yeah i want to talk about that uh more and you know we talked a little bit about it before the

00:18:52.200 show began tonight i didn't know that this was something that you had faced years ago not just

00:18:58.440 recently but this goes back years uh your daughter uh trend has she transitioned fully or like what

00:19:06.440 what is take us back to the beginning of all this if you don't mind um well i mean it started in

00:19:13.320 in junior high and um you know it was one of her friends who socially transitioned and started

00:19:19.960 identifying as male and then she did um not long after that um and i mean i never i never bought it

00:19:27.560 i i knew what it was uh well before really any of this really flared up um but i um i was in

00:19:34.440 there like the cultural marcis rabbit hole in the 2000s and i saw kind of the trans movement coming

00:19:39.400 I never thought it was going to go all the way to, uh, giving sex changes to kids. I can tell you 0.98

00:19:44.760 that much. Um, but, uh, yeah, so, so what happened was when she was 14, I took her to the Children's

00:19:51.160 Hospital of Eastern Ontario on Smythe Road in Ottawa. That's where we were posted at the time.

00:19:55.500 I was still in the military. Um, and, um, I, uh, I took her there to be seen at the mental health

00:20:01.680 clinic because, you know, I, I just thought she had some issues probably related to her mother's

00:20:06.520 separation. I was a single dad to her from the time she was eight. And, uh, you know, there was 0.83

00:20:11.440 some, some bullying and some kind of regular teenager stuff. She had some challenges. So

00:20:15.740 I took her to get some counseling and, uh, well, um, she, she said like, after we did the initial

00:20:21.480 consultation and stuff, she said, I kind of want to handle this on my own and have my privacy.

00:20:24.640 And I said, yeah, sure. Just, you know, I'll go get a coffee and send me a text when you're done.

00:20:29.020 And then after three appointments, I think it was, I said, okay, I'm going to do a check-in

00:20:32.720 and see how things are going. And she said, well, they're not going to tell you anything. And I

00:20:35.700 well i just want to make myself available if they want to raise any red flags or something so i'm

00:20:39.820 just going to stick my face in there and i won't stick around don't worry and so uh she took me to

00:20:44.400 a completely different section of the hospital uh to the adolescent gender diversity clinic um and

00:20:50.680 i mean she's i i my heart sank i was like what the hell is going on here like what year was this

00:20:56.900 2016 uh yeah yeah it would have been 2016 wow uh 20 2017 yeah 2017 so um and yeah it was 2017 so

00:21:09.140 um we um so at that time i i talked to a social worker that's kind of the first stage where they

00:21:16.280 start and it was you know adversarial i would say his name was sebastian and he was super creepy

00:21:22.700 and, um, we stopped going. So, uh, and then she started assisting. She grew her hair out long

00:21:29.800 and was taking care of her skin and wearing jewelry and lip gloss. And, um, you know,

00:21:34.440 then she needed braces. So I deployed to her BRAC and my, uh, mother who was retired came to stay

00:21:40.280 with the kids in Ottawa for me, uh, for the rest of the school year. And, uh, then I got a call

00:21:45.020 from her while I was redeploying to even an even more remote location. Um, and, uh, I talked to

00:21:51.100 her and you know she was crying and saying that the because my daughter just turned 16 while i

00:21:57.120 was on deployment which is the legal age of consent in ontario children's hospital east

00:22:01.360 ontario started calling her phone directly and telling her that she didn't need my permission

00:22:05.220 anymore she could just come on in for her sex change was that unsolicited jeff did were they 0.98

00:22:09.720 calling her uh on their own or did she start really yes yeah they called her they called her 0.96

00:22:16.440 phone. So I had to take leave early from my tour and come back and deal with that. I didn't tell

00:22:26.680 anybody I was dealing with because if you have a problem, then you are a problem in the eyes of

00:22:30.720 the chain of command. So I came back and I saw Dr. Stephen Fetter and he offered the puberty

00:22:39.120 blockers on the first appointment. And he told me that they would just pause the puberty and

00:22:45.280 they wouldn't, you know, she wouldn't continue to develop. He was saying they, I don't, I don't

00:22:49.340 say they, but he was, you know, they wouldn't continue to develop. Um, and then, you know,

00:22:54.500 if they did change their mind, we could just take them off the puberty blockers and, you know,

00:22:58.120 the puberty will, will restart. Uh, and I was sitting there going, yeah, that's not true. Um,

00:23:03.000 and I would just ask him like for some evidence and start asking questions, applying the Socratic

00:23:09.820 method. He had nothing. It was a bunch of woke nonsense that he was spewing at me. Um, and,

00:23:15.000 you know just just speculating like some people are born with an xxy chromosome and some people

00:23:21.440 are and i would say well has she been tested for klinefelters no um and uh you know so that didn't

00:23:27.700 go well and i was like i want a second opinion and when you get a second opinion from chio you

00:23:32.180 go to another psychiatrist who is with chio that appointment was the one where i started recording

00:23:37.380 that's also on my x feed that was the most cordial of the interactions that i had with

00:23:43.600 the so-called clinicians at uh chio and he even says in in that interaction in that recording that

00:23:49.240 guy's like yeah i can never be sure and um i i kind of i understand what you're saying like even

00:23:54.220 if you disagree with that no matter how much we talk to you you might still disagree and uh you

00:23:58.840 know you might get muscled into it he said i think there's some validity to that um and um then we

00:24:05.600 went back to dr steven vetter and i have two of his appointments on recording that are also on my

00:24:11.080 feed. And he says, uh, in the last one, he's like, um, I don't have any more evidence for you than I

00:24:16.360 did the last time. I don't have any, you know, I grant you that you, I don't have any evidence to

00:24:21.300 give you, but, and he would say, um, the, the rationale here is that you might lose your

00:24:26.740 relationship with your kid if you don't support their transition. And I, I was like, well, that's

00:24:31.200 just emotional blackmail. That doesn't support your assessment. I want to know, um, how you're

00:24:35.800 coming to this conclusion before, you know, I can't, I can't support something until you, uh,

00:24:40.380 I mean, I knew it was all bunk, but I was trying to manage the situation as best I could,

00:24:46.340 knowing full well that Child Protective Services can get involved if I didn't take her to appointments at this stage.

00:24:51.480 So I, yeah, yeah.

00:24:54.360 So, you know, I was just trying to sober second thought this thing.

00:24:58.620 And also, I got them on recording.

00:25:00.840 And after Dr. Fetter was done with her, she goes to the endocrinologist, Dr. Maria Keeley, who was an absolute beast, I will say. 1.00

00:25:13.560 Like, she was a cruel master who got off on basically torturing me psychologically. 0.99

00:25:20.900 And, you know, we're going to do this to your daughter and there's nothing you can do to stop us kind of attitude.

00:25:25.700 um and completely like lied to my face left right and center about um the uh suicide rates post-op

00:25:35.140 they'll commit suicide if you don't um support the transition um and uh you know we have lots

00:25:43.060 of data that shows that they do very well after transition and uh they don't desist once they

00:25:48.860 hit adolescence they don't desist and i was like yeah they do it's like 90 that's what i've been

00:25:52.480 reading. Um, and, uh, she would say, Oh yeah. Okay. What are you reading? They were laughing

00:25:57.480 at me. They were mocking me. Um, and, uh, just snarky, woke, progressive, uh, condescending BS

00:26:05.900 from start to finish. And, um, you know, I, and she was like, Oh, I'd like to see what you're

00:26:11.780 reading. And I said, uh, okay, well, uh, what's your email? And she wouldn't give it to me. She

00:26:16.080 said, bring it into the clinic and I'll show you. And she said, we'll do a little swap study. I'm

00:26:19.900 totally down to do with that i'll give you uh the data that you're looking for i came to the next

00:26:24.080 appointment and i was like okay you said you're going to get me those uh rates of uh of desistance

00:26:29.260 for adolescent onset gender dysphoria and she was like uh i didn't know her appointment was today

00:26:34.340 uh-huh and so you didn't get any of the things that you got you said you were going to get

00:26:37.880 and she was like oh is it going to be uh productive for us to have a conversation here and i was like

00:26:43.000 i don't know uh that all depends on you because i brought everything that you told me to bring

00:26:46.440 and i get i brought a stack of papers in there that was this thick and it was all tabbed and

00:26:51.100 highlighted and i had everything ready to go um and well i mean they got up and left the room

00:26:56.420 so you'll yeah we've got we've got the video here and and you you've added subtitles to it this is

00:27:02.520 great for everybody who uh won't be able to i cleaned the audio up a little bit as much as i

00:27:07.440 could but uh this is jeff's meeting with doctor like i can't even believe this person's a medical

00:27:13.840 doctor, to be honest. Dr. Maria Keeley, MD, she, her, hers. Here you go.

00:27:43.840 come in and just kind of get the uh yeah kind of formal people dr fetter diversity there were two

00:27:52.880 different groups okay yeah yeah um so next up would essentially be lupron um lupron is a medication

00:28:00.800 that right so essentially it's like a medical medical really what we do the nice thing about

00:28:06.160 the medication is that it presents any further growth of things like chest development that

00:28:12.880 me so she's talking about putting a teenage girl through menopause am i right in saying that yeah

00:28:19.680 and quite casually she's talking about that too like you know we do this all the time there's what

00:28:25.320 what what concern could i possibly have with her doing that what could go wrong 2017 that's almost

00:28:32.040 10 years ago okay let's continue here this this would have been 2020 okay well i mean it's just

00:28:38.920 I'm always asking Dr. Fetter how it is that we determine these things.

00:28:45.920 It's not like there's a test that we can do to say yes you have a perfect gender and no you're not.

00:28:50.920 Going by the research that we do have, which I totally will put out there that it's not super long term,

00:28:56.920 we base it on following the kids forward, knowing that in childhood that our sense of gender can kind of be very fluid.

00:29:05.920 What we do know when we hit adolescence, incredibly rare for reversion to happen after.

00:29:10.920 And it's also kind of helping the families to be supportive in that, yeah, if that rare

00:29:15.920 circumstance happens and there is a reversion, that we're still going to be okay with that

00:29:19.920 as well.

00:29:20.920 If you've decided to go on medication, there can be some irreversible changes that happen.

00:29:24.920 Right.

00:29:25.920 So none of that really applies to my daughter's circumstances because it's a case that had

00:29:29.920 lots of confidence.

00:29:30.920 Yeah.

00:29:31.920 What you just described was a case of childhood.

00:29:32.920 Yeah, that's one case.

00:29:33.920 That's one case.

00:29:34.920 Dysphoria that was consistent throughout adolescence, but that was never the case in childhood

00:29:40.920 or in early puberty.

00:29:43.920 And so I think we're kind of comparing apples and oranges there.

00:29:48.920 Kind of, but also it was along the same spectrum, right?

00:29:51.920 Everybody's going to be different in this spectrum.

00:29:53.920 Some people are at puberty, some people don't decide to go to.

00:29:56.920 Yeah, but what are the rates of reversion for adolescent fawns that dysphoria?

00:30:02.920 They're very rare. They're so rare you can't even count them.

00:30:05.520 Oh, really? Because I read like 90%.

00:30:07.300 Well, what's the data on that? Can I see a study or something?

00:30:14.800 Yeah, I can get some papers.

00:30:17.040 Sure, yeah.

00:30:18.820 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:19.800 Should I read 90%?

00:30:20.960 A couple of different studies.

00:30:22.840 Okay, I'd love to see those studies.

00:30:24.160 Sure, yeah, yeah.

00:30:25.360 Do you have an email or something I can send them to you?

00:30:27.400 You can bring them in here.

00:30:28.040 Sure.

00:30:28.660 We can do a little transfer.

00:30:31.680 Lots of studies.

00:30:32.920 that's all we gotta do that we can also get the data from this clinic if you want

00:30:37.720 do you know that there are studies that show rates of suicide rates of depression rates of anxiety

00:30:43.000 when we don't support them and we don't um kind of help them on the transition is incredibly high

00:30:51.800 rates are very good those studies i can get those studies for you sure i've been reading

00:30:55.800 difference? Most of what I've been seeing is that there is no difference in the suicide rate post-op

00:31:01.560 or that it is actually higher. So what is your biggest concern? John Hopkins actually stopped

00:31:06.520 doing the transition surgery studies. They stopped doing transition surgery? They did, yeah. I think

00:31:11.880 they put it back on since then, but they stopped it for quite a while. So what are your concerns? My

00:31:15.880 concerns is that no due diligence has been performed in the sense of confirming what the condition

00:31:21.240 actually is. The idea that

00:31:23.200 this might be a phase that you're on the table

00:31:25.360 to begin with is from the time that

00:31:27.160 I found out that she's actually been referred

00:31:29.320 here without my knowledge.

00:31:31.100 Everything has been in pursuit

00:31:33.300 of an actual transition

00:31:34.720 without ever actually

00:31:36.680 considering any more conservative options.

00:31:39.020 It was always the case that I was supposed to support

00:31:41.260 the transition, but I need

00:31:43.160 to have some kind of assurance that

00:31:45.120 this is going to mitigate harm instead

00:31:47.100 of inducing future harm

00:31:48.440 before I can support others. And I haven't

00:31:51.220 seen anything in the way of any due diligence or any consideration of any more conservative

00:31:54.680 options.

00:31:55.680 So what would be your suggestion for a confirmation?

00:31:59.680 Well, I mean, how would you confirm something like that?

00:32:03.680 Dr. Ferry would say, you know, some people are born with XXY chromosomes and I'm like,

00:32:08.180 well, okay, that's the child in tested for plant health risk, and he would say no.

00:32:11.460 And he would say that, you know, some people are born with a brain that is certainly more

00:32:15.780 anatomically male or another female, and I said, well, has an MRI been done to confirm

00:32:19.860 that my child's anatomy, the brain anatomy is more congruent with that of a male than

00:32:24.180 it is of a female, he would say no.

00:32:25.760 He would say, well, are you going to refer for an MRI?

00:32:28.940 He would say no.

00:32:30.180 So it seems to me that everything that's sort of driving this is really more ideological

00:32:35.140 and activist-based than there is any science to support it.

00:32:40.440 There's one of those that's going on to be some science, right?

00:32:43.200 There's no science that backs up that if we do an MRI that it's going to change anything

00:32:47.500 with respect to somebody who's transgender.

00:32:49.860 So what she's saying here, Jeff, is that there's no science to definitively conclude that anybody is transgender.

00:33:07.080 None. No. And the argument that they consistently make is we know this because there's a population of people who are making this claim.

00:33:14.560 That's a bandwagon fallacy. And what I throw back at them, I mean, you'll see it in the video, but what I'm always throwing back at them is like there's an entire, you know, support, there are support societies out there for victims of alien abduction.

00:33:30.900 That doesn't mean that I should believe that they were actually abducted by aliens. 0.91

00:33:37.100 And I think probably a better analogy would be we don't give liposuction to anorexics.

00:33:41.660 We don't indulge people's delusions.

00:33:44.560 Well, what makes me scratch my head in this and anger me is that they can't provide any proof that anybody is transgender or anybody isn't transgender. 0.72

00:33:55.760 And yet they're willing to go along and put a child through this painful kind of surgery where they're going to be a patient for the rest of their lives. 0.81

00:34:06.140 right and somehow that's acceptable referring them for an mri is unacceptable but resigning

00:34:12.140 them to a lifetime of suffering as a permanent medical patient that's acceptable it's amazing

00:34:17.740 to me i want to continue with this what is it i can't go i can't comment on what's better than

00:34:23.480 said but we know that there's no there's been no studies that tell us if you get an mri that's

00:34:28.160 going to tell you that you're doing gender i didn't know it exists by talking to our patients

00:34:33.880 Yes, but people make all kinds of claims like this, especially like mentally ill people.

00:34:40.880 You know, there are entire societies out there that are dedicated to the support of aliens

00:34:45.880 but that doesn't mean that we accept that alien abduction is an actual thing.

00:34:49.880 It's an actual phenomenon.

00:34:51.880 The main thing that we have to think about is nothing that we do or say is going to change how we feel.

00:34:58.880 How do you know that?

00:35:00.880 There's nothing that I think I'm going to know that.

00:35:03.980 He's going to feel how he feels.

00:35:05.500 He's going to feel how he feels.

00:35:06.640 Right.

00:35:07.160 When people feel a certain way or think a certain way that doesn't conform with reality as we understand it,

00:35:13.900 from science to what can be confirmed, whenever that perception discords with that reality,

00:35:21.620 in every other case, what we do is we offer them therapy.

00:35:24.620 We offer them maybe some medication, something like that.

00:35:27.620 But we don't accept the delusions where somebody's perception of reality

00:35:32.960 discords with what we understand about reality.

00:35:35.020 We would call that a delusion, but in this case,

00:35:37.300 we don't offer the counseling and the medication.

00:35:41.040 We actually change the reality to conform with the perception.

00:35:44.520 So why is this accepted?

00:35:46.200 I'm just going to go back to if, and I think he is moving towards testosterone,

00:35:51.800 and that's going to be his decision, right,

00:35:53.460 completely his decision when he wants to do it.

00:35:55.220 If he did reverse, your worry is that if he reverts back, what is the effect on his mental health at that point, right?

00:36:02.420 So, but what will be the effect?

00:36:04.240 Because you're going to be there to support him if that happens.

00:36:06.440 Our main thing is that we want to support him and be there for him and be accepting of him.

00:36:10.800 Well, my main thing is that I want to prevent harm from coming to my child.

00:36:15.100 What about harm by not doing anything, right?

00:36:17.040 Well, I don't know what that is.

00:36:18.340 In every other medical circumstance, it's not the case that the medical intervention is necessarily considered to be the less harmful approach.

00:36:26.660 There's a risk-benefit analysis there that just doesn't support that force of action.

00:36:30.480 You're pursuing a force of action that has an inherent risk associated with it.

00:36:35.500 There's also a risk that's not doing anything.

00:36:37.140 Okay, well, how did you determine?

00:36:38.640 How did you...

00:36:39.640 No, well, I mean, I haven't seen that.

00:36:42.280 But I'd be happy to look at whatever studies you might have.

00:36:44.280 Everything that I've seen seems to be indicating that the suicide rate does not come down.

00:36:49.280 I understand the seriousness of the situation.

00:36:51.280 Don't get me wrong, my heart goes out to anybody who's suffering,

00:36:54.280 but that doesn't mean that I'm just going to suspend disbelief in favor of an unscientific approach.

00:37:01.280 I don't see any science behind any of this.

00:37:03.280 And I keep asking for it, but I don't get it.

00:37:05.280 I don't think we're going to be able to make you satisfied.

00:37:09.280 Well, you're wrong about that because I'm willing to change my mind.

00:37:13.280 I hear you, but we're not going to be able to give you the evidence that you want.

00:37:18.280 Because you don't have any.

00:37:20.280 Is there any other medical intervention that you would pursue without evidence?

00:37:27.280 Yes.

00:37:28.280 Like what?

00:37:29.280 Okay.

00:37:30.280 I think that we're not going to keep going.

00:37:34.280 I'll just ask you an example.

00:37:35.280 No, I hear you.

00:37:36.280 I hear you.

00:37:37.280 Give me the evidence.

00:37:38.280 I'll change my mind.

00:37:39.280 Okay.

00:37:40.280 getting slightly aggressive yeah that's because you're putting myself in danger with this

00:37:44.680 recklessness okay we can go around in circles and keep going i'm not going in circles we're just

00:37:50.360 trying to help i'm i'm not i'm not going in circles all i asked for was sometimes we're not going to

00:37:56.440 to be able to give you that evidence.

00:37:59.240 Wow.

00:38:01.620 Wow.

00:38:07.200 Hi, Ben.

00:38:08.040 Hi, Ben.

00:38:09.280 How are you?

00:38:10.120 Good.

00:38:12.960 Hello?

00:38:13.800 Hello.

00:38:14.640 Excuse me, how are you?

00:38:16.000 Well, last time we saw, you said,

00:38:21.700 which is a version for Adolescent Historia.

00:38:25.300 You said you were going to get them for me?

00:38:27.300 I don't have them here today.

00:38:29.300 Didn't realize your appointment was today.

00:38:31.300 Oh, okay. So you don't have any of the things that you said you were going to get?

00:38:33.300 Said her.

00:38:35.300 Okay, is this going to help for us to talk here?

00:38:37.300 Because I don't think it is.

00:38:39.300 Well, I don't know if it will.

00:38:41.300 It really depends on you.

00:38:43.300 I don't think that's...

00:38:45.300 I brought the stuff that you asked for.

00:38:47.300 Okay, sorry.

00:38:49.300 I don't think it will.

00:38:51.300 I'm not going to sit down and deal with you today.

00:38:53.300 you today such help should be psychiatric rather than surgical

00:39:16.180 surgery is not sufficient to alleviate morbidity or mortality

00:39:20.020 Female to male is 41% down from 50% suicide rate. That is the case that you are making.

00:39:27.020 Disappointment with her and it's not about research and they couldn't finish.

00:39:32.020 Standards of care. You realize that we haven't discussed any of the different treatment options

00:39:38.020 and she therefore does not have informed consent according to these standards of care.

00:39:44.020 Well, maybe you haven't discussed.

00:39:46.020 And she still needs to have consultation with the parents, that's what it says. 1.00

00:39:59.020 Yeah, I know your ass is covered. I know. It's not that. It's what you do when you're unethical. 1.00

00:40:06.020 You asked me for studies showing rates and reversion after 90 days, I brought them.

00:40:19.020 You asked me for studies on brain anatomy, and I brought them. 0.89

00:40:36.020 I I'm speechless that she had zero evidence for anything that she wanted to do to your daughter.

00:40:45.820 You brought the goods. She starts to condescend to you and then eventually leaves the room. I mean, 1.00

00:40:53.420 that is in that conversation right there, Jeff, is a microcosm of everything that rational,

00:40:59.600 common sense minded people have been facing from the woke left the woke mob for the last 10 years

00:41:06.980 and especially since covid wow i mean i don't know how you kept your cool man i mean that's

00:41:15.200 that's crazy um the uh um so yeah i mean i've been saying for a long time that the left is a cult 0.61

00:41:24.540 and like this trans cult is like the apex of cultiness um um and uh the thing what what's

00:41:33.060 happening here you see is that because she has accepted the one true faith uh she is saved and

00:41:39.260 i am the one who is damned because i am the heretic who is blaspheming her dogma and that's

00:41:45.480 what it is as you can see it's completely dogmatic there is no evidence to support any of it nothing

00:41:50.000 they said was true. In fact, the opposite was true. Like they were lying to my face. They were

00:41:54.800 browbeating me. Um, I would say that they were quite abusive in terms of like, uh, like, like

00:41:59.940 psychologically abusive. Um, but there's, there's something wrong with me for asking questions about,

00:42:05.240 uh, their desire to sterilize my daughter, sterilize and mutilate my daughter. Um, and if

00:42:10.880 I raise any questions about that, then obviously there's something wrong with me. So that conversation

00:42:16.140 took place in 2020 this was after uh as you point out at the end of that by the way you can see that

00:42:20.700 on jeff's uh x it's out there on your instagram also i think yeah yeah it's on instagram as well

00:42:26.220 yeah yeah you can see uh that there's jeff's x handle right there along with mine go follow us

00:42:31.900 both so you could essentially because of bill c4 uh which is the conversion therapy bill and and

00:42:39.260 explain conversion therapy please jeff for those people that don't even know it exists because uh

00:42:44.620 i found out about this one a couple of years ago from kelly uh peary who's going to be at the mayday

00:42:51.020 event in ottawa next tuesday yeah so um actually that's part of my story as well because that was

00:42:57.340 being debated at the time that uh all of this was happening and it was eventually voted through the

00:43:03.500 house of commons i think in december of 2020 and royally assented in january of 2021 44th parliament

00:43:09.260 unanimously consented. And what they did is they incorporated some Marxist language like

00:43:18.100 cisgender. That's right in the bill. And everybody thinks it means that you're praying the gay away,

00:43:24.720 abusive, harmful practices, coercion, this kind of thing. None of that stuff appears in the bill.

00:43:30.880 The word coercion doesn't appear in the bill. The word abusive doesn't appear in the bill. The word

00:43:35.040 harmful, doesn't appear in the bill. What it says is that you shall not cause somebody to go

00:43:40.900 from being trans-identified to cis-identified. And it's all in the definition section, the way

00:43:46.600 they define conversion therapy. Now, it doesn't really have much to do with gaze. There are six

00:43:53.640 criteria in the definition under conversion therapy, any one of which you meet, then you

00:44:01.740 face a five-year jail sentence. Two of those criteria pertain to causing a person to go from

00:44:08.300 being gay to straight. And four of those criteria pertain to causing someone to go from trans to

00:44:17.140 cis. And the word is cause. It's not coerce. It's not abuse or anything like that. So effectively, 0.91

00:44:25.980 if, um, a parent or a, uh, clinician has a conversation with a child to change their

00:44:34.200 mind about, you know, uh, their, their true nature to, to get them to desist from being,

00:44:41.020 uh, trans identified to cis identified, which is not a real word.

00:44:45.880 Um, but, uh, if you, uh, if you get them to change their mind, that's conversion therapy 0.59

00:44:50.840 and that's a five-year jail sentence.

00:44:52.320 And that is, as you say, applicable to anybody, whether it's a doctor or a parent.

00:44:56.060 There have been cases in this country where parents have been arrested under this law.

00:45:01.720 Am I right?

00:45:02.900 I'm not aware of any.

00:45:04.840 As a matter of fact.

00:45:05.800 There was one in B.C.

00:45:07.120 Oh, that was he refused to use his daughter's pronouns, which is what I did as well.

00:45:13.560 And the judge ruled that it was domestic abuse.

00:45:18.720 Yeah.

00:45:19.440 So it wasn't conversion therapy.

00:45:21.120 But, I mean, so no clinician will counsel a child to help them feel comfortable in their own bodies as soon as they play the trance card.

00:45:29.300 And I had that experience.

00:45:30.880 And at the end of the video, it says that I took her to see the foremost experts in the world.

00:45:35.720 That was Dr. Gen Zucker to get some counseling there, which was somewhat helpful.

00:45:41.960 And then but then, you know, you go back to Ottawa and you have to see a regular counselor, a psychotherapist or, you know, a psychologist.

00:45:51.080 And and when you when you go and talk to somebody there, you say, you know, I just want you to help her feel comfortable in her own body.

00:45:59.040 And they'll say, well, she's trans. So I refer to the gender clinic.

00:46:03.840 I don't know. I'm not messing with this. And I'm like, OK, well, let's just keep this conversation to ourselves. 0.99

00:46:09.560 OK, we're going to be on our way now. So you cannot get help for these kids.

00:46:14.280 And I mean, let me ask you, though, I mean, if if a psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist, guidance counselor, parent, whatever, has this conversation with their son or daughter who wants to be a daughter or son, how is anybody going to know about it?

00:46:28.440 Do the kids actually go do the reporting on their own? Like this is how they're wedging into the families.

00:46:34.060 i'm assuming one of the ways they're doing it yeah i i don't know how they're going to find out i

00:46:39.780 just know that the the therapists are not going to take the risk well so your story is um or i

00:46:48.340 guess maybe your daughter's story like where does that stand today are you guys like do you have a

00:46:53.860 relationship is what no she hasn't talked to me since 2023 um she's been on testosterone since 0.99

00:47:01.360 then um so she would have been 20 and she just had her healthy breasts removed last september at

00:47:08.200 the age of 22 um so i mean uh uh it's definitely the most painful experience that i've ever had

00:47:15.500 to endure and uh it needs to stop like i i'm just kind of hanging out here uh in the same town where

00:47:21.920 she lives waiting to catch her when she falls and i figure i might as well go after the monsters who

00:47:25.740 did it to her while i'm at it does she resent you i mean i know it's been a few years since you've

00:47:32.120 spoken to her but like what what what happened what led up to this was it just your resistance

00:47:39.300 to all of this um no i mean i i you know i do i always thought it had something uh to do with

00:47:48.440 um her her mother leaving when she was eight she lives with her mother now so i think this

00:47:53.680 i'm pretty vindicated in that uh assumption and her and her mother supported and i didn't and

00:48:00.000 um you know the uh the thing is that statistically if one parent supports they will go through with

00:48:06.240 it is this was this a social contagion in your daughter's case like yeah a thousand percent

00:48:12.960 like she was a girly girl when she was little she she did ballet she loved wearing dresses

00:48:19.680 She like just constantly, um, wanted to be, you know, pretty and prance around in her

00:48:24.980 nice sundresses and go to gymnastics.

00:48:27.380 I coached her cheerleading for three years, um, while we were, uh, posted to Florida.

00:48:33.560 And I mean, she wanted to, I, I was done after the first season.

00:48:37.620 I was like, I'm never doing that again, but she wanted to do it again.

00:48:40.320 And then again, so I was like, okay, I'll, I'll do it again. 0.99

00:48:42.900 Cause they needed a coach.

00:48:44.180 um and i coached her softball um you know and she she had like friends were really important to her

00:48:53.340 you know the very girly everything about her was girly she was into justin bieber and twilight and

00:48:58.700 um you know all that stuff when regular chick stuff so how old was she when all this happened 0.91

00:49:04.440 like 14 15 yeah like 14 when uh she uh was referred to the gender clinic at first but then 0.95

00:49:11.880 there was a gap like i said so they didn't i stopped taking her you know she's like 14 and a

00:49:17.600 half and then the the day she turned 16 they were calling her phone and telling her that she didn't

00:49:22.820 need my permission anymore so i know that you've probably studied the history of this at least in

00:49:29.160 the last 15 or 20 years um because that's just the kind of guy that you are you want to know as much

00:49:35.280 as you can about something especially something so close that's affected your life in the life

00:49:39.260 of your daughter uh where did this begin i my take on this is when the dsm-5 came out in what

00:49:47.520 2020 or something and they changed the definition of gender dysphoria from an illness to a condition

00:49:53.760 that meant that they could start promoting it like it like it was bad or something that's part of it

00:50:01.980 that that is part of it um you know and you're talking about from the dsm-4 to the dsm-5 it

00:50:08.120 went from gender identity disorder to gender dysphoria so it's often the language a little bit

00:50:12.800 and also the criteria that you need to meet in order to uh like to meet the threshold for a

00:50:18.700 diagnosis um what it went like it's it's it's now as long as you feel discomfort with your gender

00:50:27.200 for six months or longer then you can get a diagnosis that's puberty so it effectively

00:50:32.880 pathologizes puberty. But even like Dr. Zucker is the guy who wrote the definition of gender

00:50:39.120 dysphoria. And he says it was never the intention for that to lead to biomedical transition for

00:50:46.020 teenagers and for anybody who gets a diagnosis. But there's a lot of money in this. And a lot of

00:50:52.660 this is ideologically fueled as well, as I'm sure you're aware. And like the definition of Bill C4,

00:50:57.880 Like, it incorporates the term cisgender, and cis-sexual is the term that Volkmar Sagush coined, and he was a Frankfurt School critical theorist. He was a sexologist, but he did his philosophical studies under Max Horkheimer and, what's his name? Adorno, Theodore Adorno.

00:51:16.820 um and uh he um um he he came up with cis sexual uh but then they say cisgender i think because

00:51:26.460 that's from another critical theorist judith butler who uh did her thesis i think in about

00:51:31.340 89 um where she said that gender was performative as in gender is a social construct um so it you

00:51:38.860 know it's uh kind of well the word gender in and of itself is a social construct right i mean like

00:51:44.320 ultimately and when was that created in the 60s like it was a word they made up no um i mean if i

00:51:52.080 go to the hardware store i need to know the gender of the plumbing part that i need that i'm getting

00:51:58.540 like i need to know if it's a male or a female and same thing with the electrical aisle if i'm

00:52:02.740 looking for a connector i need to know if it's male or female like gender just describes a coupling

00:52:07.420 relationship where in one component is partially inserted into uh the other component to form

00:52:13.920 the couple and and we used to use sex for that like the word sex right you're the male sex or

00:52:20.160 the female sex and they came up with gender and then later took that phrase and mutated it into

00:52:25.800 this gender spectrum uh where you can be a woman one day and then you can be a man the other day

00:52:31.440 without any real definition it's just how you feel yeah and um like sex would be the biological

00:52:37.260 manifestation of gender for the purpose of reproduction we started saying gender as a polite

00:52:41.860 word for sex um and it's just been completely hijacked um obviously and communists always

00:52:48.900 hijack civil rights movements and use women and minorities as human shields to advance their

00:52:54.540 communist agenda and uh you know now they've just invented out of whole cloth this new minority of 0.98

00:53:01.260 of transgender people who are clearly weaponized against us yeah weaponized and funded very well 1.00

00:53:09.900 I mean, you know, it's funny. 1.00

00:53:11.260 I've gotten into several debates, let's just say.

00:53:14.040 And let me ask you this before I forget.

00:53:15.940 That doctor that you were speaking to, the one we played,

00:53:20.560 when you were sitting across from her, standing across, or whatever,

00:53:24.580 I'm not sure what the configuration in that office was.

00:53:27.160 You were looking her in the face when you were speaking to her, obviously.

00:53:29.800 Did she seem to believe what she was saying?

00:53:34.040 Or could you tell it was a facade?

00:53:36.280 I know you're an observer.

00:53:37.400 That's why I ask. 1.00

00:53:38.360 you know i think it's really hard for me to tell um because like she was just talking at her ass 0.97

00:53:44.020 the whole time and sort of well according to you though but i mean like did she seem to really 0.98

00:53:48.880 believe it like you pointed out like it's a religion and you were the heretic i i do think

00:53:54.500 so yeah yeah um but that's uh kind of like rationalization that's the kind of thing that

00:54:00.520 you'll see cultural cultists do is they they rationalize even bad behavior in these kinds of

00:54:05.280 things, where, you know, doing bad things, but it was for a good reason, because, you know, God made

00:54:11.660 me do it or something like that. So there, there are a lot of these different characteristics of

00:54:15.540 cults, actually, that are very prominent in these trans ideologues. And so I think she's just 0.87

00:54:23.520 accepted the faith, that's the dogma, and she's going to, you know, reverse engineer her

00:54:30.620 rationalization for you know the conclusion that that's foregone quite frankly no matter how much

00:54:37.460 harm it inflicts on anybody exactly it doesn't matter because it's for the greater good or it's

00:54:43.960 for your safety i suppose wow man so tell us about mia hughes i've got a great clip that you posted

00:54:50.820 on your social media as well i'm going to play this first and then you can she is the canadian

00:54:55.440 director of genspec.org and we're going to get into that in just a second here's mia hughes

00:54:59.660 But, as history shows us, it's hard for people to let go of false beliefs.

00:55:05.660 At the end of the dam burst panic, residents of Columbus were left in a state of bewilderment.

00:55:11.840 Some were up trees, others had climbed to high ground.

00:55:16.020 They simply could not let go of the belief that the dam had burst.

00:55:20.420 It took militiamen riding through the streets in lorries, shouting through megaphones that

00:55:25.660 the dam had not broken.

00:55:28.780 That is now the responsibility of everyone today who knows the truth about this medical

00:55:33.240 scandal.

00:55:35.240 Because our culture exists in a similar state of befuddlement.

00:55:39.960 Nations are banning these treatments for minors, yet they remain available on demand for adults,

00:55:45.960 as if something magical happens at the stroke of midnight when a young person turns 18.

00:55:58.780 There are constant calls for better quality evidence, yet producing that evidence requires subjecting even more healthy people to those same interventions that have already been shown to cause so much harm.

00:56:12.540 all this confusion stems from one simple problem our culture refuses to let go of the belief itself

00:56:20.440 so this is not a time to be timid this is the time to pull out the megaphones

00:56:26.500 the time to say plainly that the entire field of gender medicine is built upon a lie

00:56:32.600 that people who fixate on these medical interventions as the road to happiness do

00:56:37.880 not need scalpels and hormones they need compassionate psychotherapeutic care that

00:56:43.260 guides them towards a less destructive path

00:56:45.660 there is mia here she's the director of genspect canada genspect.org you can find out you know i

00:56:56.320 find this very interesting that the united states has pretty much done away with most of this stuff

00:57:02.720 like i said earlier you're going to find it in some pockets down there mostly in blue states but

00:57:07.320 for the most part, you're not seeing women or men in women's sports. You're not seeing these

00:57:13.060 awful surgeries performed on 12 or 13-year-old kids or 7 or 8-year-old kids anymore. And not

00:57:18.700 only that, but almost all countries in the world, even the Tavistock Clinic was shut down from doing

00:57:25.100 this stuff in the UK. But yet Canada persists. We're close by them, Jeff. I mean, you know,

00:57:31.600 a lot of their culture is our culture based upon the media that we consume from the United States.

00:57:36.900 that's been the case for years the sports and whatnot and yet for some reason some of it doesn't

00:57:42.400 translate across that border and i wonder why that is i know why um it's because of the vote on bill

00:57:48.720 c4 it's the unanimous vote on bill c4 and so this was in uh early 2020 these appointments i had

00:57:56.800 the first one that you heard there was on the 10th of january and the second one that you heard was

00:58:01.120 on the 14th of february on the 20th of january yeah the 21st of january 2020 i had a half hour

00:58:10.540 phone call conversation with pierre polyev and i told him all about it um and uh i offered to let

00:58:15.960 him listen to the recordings i asked that he vote no on the conversion therapy bill and i uh offered

00:58:22.600 to write a statement i wanted to read it out in the house of commons about what was really happening

00:58:26.400 in the children's hospitals and um he refused and uh went on to vote for the conversion therapy bill

00:58:33.760 two more times once when it was bill c6 and the free vote of the 43rd parliament and then there

00:58:38.720 was the snap election in 2021 where um they uh um they they came back as the 44th parliament and

00:58:46.080 erin o'toole uh whipped the vote and you got the unanimous consent so everybody who's in charge of

00:58:52.720 the political parties right now i mean carney's the only new guy and he actually has a trans kid

00:58:58.640 from the tavisaw clinic so everybody in charge of these political parties like they're complicit in

00:59:04.880 this and so none of the rank and file can talk about it without losing their party status now

00:59:11.280 i'm not excusing their cowardice but um that's the situation that they're that we're in well i i

00:59:16.400 wonder maybe you got a guy like billboard chris and he's been on the show here a couple of times

00:59:20.800 as well he goes out like in case you guys are unaware of billboard chris and he's been very

00:59:24.880 vocal on social media lately because of the problems that are going on in bc with soji in

00:59:29.080 the schools and whatnot but he says you know i stand on the street corners in melbourne australia

00:59:35.200 washington dc london uk paris france whatever i'm standing there and what i put on on social media

00:59:42.560 are the videos of people who want to engage and argue with me but what he said the last time he

00:59:48.960 was on was that 99.9 percent of everybody that comes up and talks to him says, good job, man.

00:59:57.420 Well done. I can't believe this stuff is going on. And thank you for standing up and speaking

01:00:03.080 out against it. In other words, it is a political no brainer for a conservative leader in any

01:00:10.900 country, any province, any state to stand up and say, this is what they're doing. We are going to

01:00:16.900 speak out against it until they put an end to it because it's barbaric and despicable

01:00:22.180 and you can't change it you cannot reverse this once it's done not even these puberty blockers

01:00:28.760 they're putting kids on and yet still we see people like pierre polioff i mean like at the

01:00:33.440 conservative uh convention in january it came up again as one of the items they wanted to debate

01:00:40.220 They got a majority of people who wanted to put that onto their item list, but they didn't get the super majority, so it didn't pass.

01:00:49.120 So the Conservative Party is still in line with their vote on conversion therapy from five or six years ago. 0.93

01:00:57.340 It's amazing to me because you could probably win an election based on that.

01:01:01.360 We're going to bring sanity back to the country that you love, but they won't.

01:01:05.820 So what's behind this? Is there dark money flowing in?

01:01:10.220 um i i would say probably um and uh i mean are they bribing politicians uh are they um you know

01:01:21.240 funding campaigns i i don't know um but clearly there's the ideological component and i think

01:01:27.580 that well we have the only conservative party in the world who still support this um and uh you

01:01:33.580 know we saw uh shoot i'm forgetting that odious beast's name who got up and said like this divides 0.95

01:01:39.680 us um so you know vote no or whatever it was from out in bc she actually worked at agal canada who 0.99

01:01:48.740 push all of this stuff and now she's uh a so-called conservative mp well um you know

01:01:55.800 tamara something um and uh jensen tamara cronus tamara cronus cronus right yeah and she um but i 0.97

01:02:04.400 mean she worked at agal canada what the hell is she doing in a conservative party well i think 0.77

01:02:08.460 that as soon as Harper was gone,

01:02:10.360 they reverted to their progressive roots

01:02:11.800 because they were the progressive conservative party

01:02:14.040 in the 90s.

01:02:16.500 They're a more cosmopolitan,

01:02:19.120 like it's conservative in name only.

01:02:20.520 They are progressive.

01:02:21.120 You cannot be a progressive conservative.

01:02:22.760 Those two words, that's an oxymoronic statement.

01:02:26.300 So you have this mixture.

01:02:28.540 I don't even know if you really have

01:02:29.600 any true blue conservatives left

01:02:30.880 in the conservative party,

01:02:31.800 but it's very progressive.

01:02:34.980 You can see like you have these progressives 0.97

01:02:36.540 like Tamara Cronus will get up there and say,

01:02:38.180 no this is a really good thing we should keep doing this to kids yeah and and you know i mean

01:02:42.760 people don't speak up against it maybe because they don't know about it because they're watching

01:02:47.160 the left-wing corporate media and they're unaware they're not seeing shows like this and now i worry

01:02:52.620 that we're going to all get banned off social media when uh when the government passes all of

01:02:57.040 their censorship bills which is coming up in the next couple of months too so keeping people in the

01:03:02.340 dark wow yeah oh yeah i mean they're turning off the cameras and committee yeah yeah of course they

01:03:11.080 don't want us to know what they're doing like if if people really woke up to what they're really

01:03:15.240 doing to us in this country i mean the rcnb did a report a couple of years ago they said we'd revolt

01:03:20.140 if we if we knew how broke we were yeah or what they were doing to kids i mean it's absolutely

01:03:27.940 crazy. This is Jen Specht. Mia Hughes is going to be at your event on Tuesday in Ottawa. Jen Specht

01:03:35.120 is an international nonpartisan interdisciplinary organization committed to promoting a healthy

01:03:39.500 evidence-based approach to sex and gender. Who We Are, the only international organization that

01:03:46.340 recognizes trans identification as a mental health issue requiring psychosocial supports, 0.81

01:03:52.800 advocates for ethical, non-medicalized responses to gender distress, I would assume that's talk 0.94

01:03:58.200 therapy, raises awareness about the risks of inappropriate medical transition, promotes

01:04:03.100 healthier outcomes for individuals, families, and society. We could go into the nuts and bolts about

01:04:07.760 this, but we heard that in your conversation with that radical doctor. Ultimately, it looks like

01:04:14.160 you've got a great day planned next Tuesday, Jeff. I'm really happy to see that you're doing this,

01:04:19.460 But all we got to do is get people out to come and see what the hell is going on, right?

01:04:24.480 Yeah, please do.

01:04:26.520 Buy some tickets for the town hall.

01:04:29.060 We still have tickets available.

01:04:32.160 I'm out a ton of cash because I'm flying in some speakers and stuff like that.

01:04:36.460 So I personally would appreciate you guys buying a ticket.

01:04:40.520 And come to the rally. 1.00

01:04:41.680 There are a few people, detransitioners, 1.00

01:04:44.020 the detransitioners who have been reaching out to this have been insane. 1.00

01:04:47.900 They're all finding us. 1.00

01:04:48.960 We've got tons of contacts now from detransitioners. 1.00

01:04:52.200 I've been interviewing them, you know, the last couple of months. 1.00

01:04:55.320 It's so sad to have to listen to these young people.

01:04:58.480 Like, I talked to a 23-year-old gay man from the United States, 1.00

01:05:02.500 and he's inorgasmic from the puberty blockers.

01:05:07.500 And just, like, a really sweet guy, too.

01:05:10.880 Like, you know, he was worried about having to, like, finding a partner. 0.91

01:05:16.660 and the doctor told him that he was too effeminate to find a man as a partner because gay men like

01:05:22.020 other men and men are masculine so you should transition to a woman so that you could be 0.93

01:05:26.380 somebody's wife like she she told him that uh his name is johnny skinner and you know and he he was

01:05:32.300 the guy who uh he he made his case because they're talking about conversion therapy it was in 0.53

01:05:37.600 california and there was that senator who was just squirming away a gay senator squirming listen to 0.86

01:05:44.600 johnny talk about his experience about how he's effectively we're back to chemically castrating 0.96

01:05:49.900 gays you know it's just atrocious is the appropriate word it really is wow that's and

01:05:57.580 you know they they're all outraged about that too when they what was that movie about the guy who 0.84

01:06:02.100 invented the the computer there in world war 2 that's what they did to him i forget uh alan

01:06:07.220 turing alan turing that's what they did to him in the in the 50s they chemically castrated him

01:06:11.780 because they found out that he was gay and everybody was was up in arms everybody was up

01:06:16.980 in arms after seeing that movie and now this is what they're doing for real you know 70 or 80

01:06:23.900 years later and and nobody is saying anything about it and and if they do they're in support

01:06:27.940 like what the hell yeah um well and and it's because of that sort of inversion of uh the

01:06:35.220 paradigm that they did with the the definition of conversion therapy so when you know you tell

01:06:41.340 somebody that they banned conversion therapy they think oh good so that won't happen to the next 0.99

01:06:46.300 alan turing right it is happening that is exactly what it does is it makes sure it will happen it 0.63

01:06:53.820 makes sure that the only legal option for an uh an adolescent who expresses gender dysphoria

01:07:00.240 is to transition them so what time on tuesday does all this kickoff you said you were doing

01:07:05.660 the press conference up parliament hill what at 10 a.m yeah 10 30 we're doing the parliamentary

01:07:10.280 press gallery like the the intent here that is what i think is um is kind of the main effort

01:07:16.220 um you know not well maybe not the main effort so there's a lot of effort going into everything else

01:07:20.680 more effort going into everything else but um but really like we got to penetrate that mainstream

01:07:25.940 bubble so we're going to go to the parliamentary press gallery i think there's been a shift that's

01:07:31.120 why um i decided to do this right now especially in the wake of tumblr ridge everybody's been

01:07:35.820 talking about this and then we just had a couple of well-timed developments we had um the the

01:07:42.000 finished study that came out on the 4th of april that showed even what they've what they were

01:07:46.020 telling me there that their mental health improves that's been utterly decimated as a narrative um

01:07:51.720 the boys went from 9.8 psychiatric comorbidities to over 60 that was a huge study too right that 0.62

01:07:59.620 It was big.

01:08:00.740 Over a long period of time.

01:08:03.280 Yes, it's like all this century, I think, or going back to 96.

01:08:06.680 It was 96 to 2019.

01:08:09.000 And they followed everybody through the health care system.

01:08:14.420 The problem with previous studies were that they relied on pools of volunteers.

01:08:20.140 And, you know, volunteers tend to drop out, and that tends to lead to selection bias.

01:08:24.940 And what was the – there was the Dutch protocol.

01:08:28.540 that came out of a couple of different studies in like 2011 and 2014 I think that's the one the

01:08:35.840 puberty blockers cross-sex hormones and surgeries that's the Dutch protocol for for adolescents

01:08:40.320 and it was all based on you know these autogynephilic men who said that yeah they were

01:08:48.180 happy with their their surgeries but they wish that they had more curves so if you block their

01:08:53.020 puberty and put them on cross-sex hormones, they would have had more curves. But these were adult

01:08:59.160 men that they did this with. And again, the selection bias was there because, well, it wasn't

01:09:04.460 even selection bias. It was almost like they falsified their conclusions because the people

01:09:10.560 who were satisfied were overrepresented. And the people who dropped out, they'd say, well, I don't

01:09:15.440 want anything to do with these people anymore. They're not included when they're coming to

01:09:20.940 their conclusions and one of those people was so dissatisfied that they died and uh that was not

01:09:28.180 included in those studies and that that's the protocol that's where the Dutch protocol comes

01:09:32.000 from that they're all following right now um and uh and but the one that they did in Finland

01:09:37.500 um they followed absolutely everybody from 1996 to 2019 and the results were atrocious and that

01:09:44.780 was just for mental health um that's not even getting into the kinds of complications that

01:09:49.700 scott nugent who is our keynote speaker has suffered um you know and and her real name is 0.52

01:09:55.360 kelly she's a lesbian who transitioned to 42 and is 53 and now having to get all of her teeth pulled

01:10:00.980 because of the bone density issues um that she she suffered from the the hormones and has had 1.00

01:10:06.280 all kinds of uh infections and everything it's just oh my god it's it's criminal what they're

01:10:12.000 what they're doing to these people is she going to transition back no she's going to stay this way

01:10:17.520 no um i think she's had enough surgeries that's that's what she's said in the interviews that

01:10:23.520 we've done together you know kelly peary uh is like we mentioned her earlier she's coming up

01:10:28.920 for this too and she's great uh i had the opportunity to meet her a couple of years ago

01:10:34.700 ken drysdale from the nci uh did a canada stronger together event uh out here and uh he asked me to

01:10:43.320 emcee it because of that i got to meet all the great guests that he brought out and she was one

01:10:48.360 of them at that point she was just beginning her detransition so she looked like a man and she went

01:10:57.780 into the women's bathroom she was being a woman again after i think it was 10 years as a man

01:11:03.740 or trying to pretend she was a man and the reaction from some of the people in the room right

01:11:11.240 There was like 500 to 700 people in the room at any given time.

01:11:14.840 And they were, there's a man in our bathroom.

01:11:17.820 They thought it was somebody playing dress up.

01:11:22.260 They didn't know the circumstances.

01:11:24.220 Now, since then, this has been a couple of years.

01:11:26.900 And her hair is starting to grow back now.

01:11:29.040 And she's starting to feminize her appearance.

01:11:32.080 She knows she's never going to 100% get back to that.

01:11:35.480 But she's trying very hard because she knows what her inner character is.

01:11:39.600 she is a fascinating person. And I'm so happy she's coming up for this. And I'm so happy there's

01:11:45.560 so many of these detransitioners, because ultimately, who better to listen to, to find out 1.00

01:11:50.780 what really happens in these situations, right? That is the thinking behind this, too. Like,

01:11:56.680 these are the voices that we need to empower. These are the voices that people need to hear.

01:12:01.100 This is what I think is going to turn the tide. Like, we need to hear from the people who have

01:12:06.840 suffered. And that's what I've been saying is, you know, we have a panel of experts and those

01:12:12.900 with lived experience of the harms of gender ideology. So we're bringing Kelly Lynn Peary,

01:12:18.460 and we also have Faith Groulou, who's only 26, you know, who had a, well, more than a near miss,

01:12:27.360 I guess, with the puberty blockers. But, you know, they're going to be speaking from experience. And

01:12:34.240 We have trans man, Scott Nugent, speaking from experience.

01:12:37.680 So two people who transitioned as adults, one who transitioned partially as a teenager.

01:12:44.140 We have me, who's the father of a victim of gender ideology.

01:12:48.020 And I have my recordings.

01:12:49.220 I can tell you all about just how abusive these people really are.

01:12:53.520 So, yeah, I think that's the way forward with this.

01:12:58.700 And, you know, I think that, well, I mean, what are they going to do?

01:13:03.760 Are they going to call me a transphobe while I'm standing at the podium with a trans man?

01:13:08.560 You know, the thing about these expressions to these names, they call us your transphobe.

01:13:13.840 Well, to me, you know, phobe is I'm afraid of.

01:13:17.060 Right. Like if you're a germaphobe, I'm afraid of germs.

01:13:19.820 I'm afraid of getting sick. I'm not afraid of any of these people.

01:13:22.600 I feel sympathy for them because they're not getting the kind of treatment that they should be getting.

01:13:27.860 You know, when you talk about what you mentioned earlier, you know, anorexics, we don't.

01:13:33.760 say, you know what? You're right. You are fat. You need to lose some weight. We're going to do

01:13:37.480 some liposuction on you. We don't do that because for obvious reasons. So why are we doing this?

01:13:44.420 It's absolutely ridiculous. And we don't call them anybody who doesn't believe in, you know, 0.92

01:13:50.560 anorexia. We don't call them fat phobes or skinny phobes or whatever phobe you're supposed to be 0.81

01:13:54.780 called in that situation. It's stupid. It's linguistic nonsense. And it needs to stop as 1.00

01:14:00.760 well but we do have free speech to a point in this country don't we uh listen i i want to throw this

01:14:06.620 up maydaycanada.com again we put this up uh you know a couple more minutes you're a military man

01:14:12.200 so i wanted to talk to you quickly about what the hell trump is doing what do you think he's doing

01:14:16.500 i watch a lot of promethean action and the geopolitics of the world i find are absolutely

01:14:22.060 amazing right i mean what is going on right now so many moving parts uh king charles in washington

01:14:29.040 uh trump and he had a private meeting just the two of them for 15 or 20 minutes the other day i

01:14:35.420 don't know what they talked about uh they've got the blockade still up in the strait of hormuz we've

01:14:40.540 got the united arab emirates dropping out of opec a couple of days ago man there's a lot of stuff

01:14:45.460 going on what's your take i mean he's he is uh like there there are two new world orders i think

01:14:53.300 that are competing right now there's the china dominated economic world order and then there's

01:14:57.820 the United States, the new United States dominated world order. And I am thrilled, actually, with what 0.71

01:15:05.500 Trump has been doing. I thought he made a couple of brilliant moves there, like during the war,

01:15:11.780 because we're talking about the blockading the Strait of America. He was going to rename it,

01:15:15.960 by the way, from the Strait of America, which was great. And, you know, all of the speculation

01:15:22.440 was that, you know, the United States is going to be devastated. I heard these guys say, I'm like,

01:15:26.960 the United States is going to be devastated because the oil is not coming through the

01:15:29.560 Straits or Hormuz. And I'm like, the United States is a net oil exporter. They'll be just fine.

01:15:34.940 And he didn't just do that, but he exposed just what a fraud this NATO alliance is where

01:15:43.380 they're doing all the work and they're saying, okay, this isn't even our oil. He was saying,

01:15:49.000 we don't use this oil coming through the Straits. This is for you guys in Europe. This is for you 0.99

01:15:55.020 guys in china and he even said china get over here and help us you know and and nobody came

01:16:01.080 and then um you know they they uh ran the blockade of the straits there for a little while

01:16:06.420 and the next thing you knew like all of the shipping traffic was going to the gulf of america

01:16:10.860 and the eastern seaboard of the united states to get their oil they were following they were

01:16:14.960 following firing on all cylinders they already got venezuela because this is how china has been

01:16:20.780 They're energy starved, and this has been a big part of their oil, getting a lot of it from Venezuela and about 20% from Iran.

01:16:30.340 So they're in really rough shape now.

01:16:34.040 And that is the thing.

01:16:35.840 Maybe their military is a paper tiger.

01:16:38.060 I think it probably is.

01:16:39.080 But they wage warfare by another means.

01:16:41.580 But they rely, if they're economy tanks, they are toast.

01:16:46.600 And they're on the verge of demographic collapse as well.

01:16:50.780 but uh no i i thought it's it's absolutely brilliant they're taking out all of their 0.54

01:16:55.800 proxies it's not like you can do regime change in a nuclear country like china um so they're 0.67

01:17:02.380 they're they're they gotta they got all the choke points um you know uh shored up right now by the

01:17:08.660 americans and they can they can just strangle them you know i find it interesting by the way

01:17:14.620 you groaned what i said promethean action oh yeah you're not a fan of that no i mean i 0.51

01:17:20.320 i i watched a couple of things and it's just they make too many leaps and i'm familiar with

01:17:26.280 you know the inner city london kind of controlling the world and the old british empire is still

01:17:31.040 around like i'm familiar with um with those narratives i i just kind of i think they're

01:17:35.060 bogus okay interesting um so trump's don rowe doctrine right this is in play so we've got

01:17:43.680 venezuela i'm not sure if he's going to go for the rest of south america i don't think he needs to

01:17:47.960 uh he's already got a deal or very close to a deal with mexico he's just got to get the cabal out of

01:17:53.360 there uh and i think he probably will uh he's he's got greenland he made that deal right so what's

01:18:00.360 left canada now if they truly want to maintain this uh energy situation that they they find

01:18:10.240 themselves in now net producer not a net importer they're gonna have to have canada at some point

01:18:16.540 so i'm wondering if that may be what the conversation was between charles and trump

01:18:23.900 the other day and like you know i'm actually very serious about that because i say okay so

01:18:29.200 who is running this show who is running we call it crown land for a reason some people say oh

01:18:34.740 it's just traditional right it's just what out of respect to the crown no it's because it's crown

01:18:39.200 land right the crown runs canada still it may be the hidden hand as far as i'm concerned but i think

01:18:46.020 they still run it. You know, when you were a military member, you had to pledge your allegiance

01:18:50.120 to the queen. Did you not? Yes. Okay. So why not Canada? Because Canada is not really a sovereign

01:18:56.600 country. It never has been. From the beginning, it was always a colony of Britain. And then after

01:19:02.140 World War II, it was a colony of the United States, in my opinion. To be a sovereign country,

01:19:09.420 you've got to be able to defend yourself, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that.

01:19:13.300 so what the hell is going on with our country i've got so many theories i want to run past

01:19:21.660 here maybe you haven't gone as far along as i have i've been pretty busy with this mayday stuff

01:19:26.280 but i do i do like theories um you know what's going the cia is infiltrating the independence

01:19:33.560 vote in alberta i think they're going to leave and it's not going to be a real vote but i think

01:19:38.000 they're going to leave they're they're still only polling at about 20 i'm sorry to say i'm really

01:19:42.560 20, 32, 35. I've heard numbers like that. Right. But I think that those votes are the suppression

01:19:49.820 polls that are coming out. Also, these polls, I don't believe a word of them, not for a second.

01:19:56.460 You know, abacus, David Coletto came out and said, we're using flawed models. We have no

01:20:01.520 intention of ever stopping. We over poll liberals. We under poll conservatives. Right. To the tune

01:20:07.020 of sometimes 5 percent. He came out and admitted that on X a couple of weeks ago. So how are we

01:20:12.040 supposed to trust any poll ever again you can't so you know with all that said canada is a target

01:20:20.560 for the united states and trump is going to finish what they tried to start in 1812 man

01:20:25.380 i don't know um no i i don't think so i think he's he's got a pretty full plate right now

01:20:32.320 um and he uh he's a big idea guy so he kind of sets the tone um for for you know uh for the

01:20:39.840 future for for america and he's also uh the master of the art of the deal so i think that when he said

01:20:46.680 he wanted canada to be the 51st state he meant alberta because um that's that's what he does

01:20:52.720 he comes out with a really big ask that he knows is not going to be accepted and he lets you walk

01:20:59.220 him walk him back to what he really wanted in the first place so i i think that's art of the deal

01:21:04.280 he wants alberta um is he going to get it i mean looking at the polls it doesn't look like it and

01:21:09.400 I'm sorry, guys. Like, I'm really rooting for Alberta, actually. Canada is essentially, you know, being balkanized right now.

01:21:17.740 I mean, we have a, you know, Carney is China's man. I think that's pretty plain as day.

01:21:24.080 Everything he does seems to serve their interest. And of course, you know, they were interfering in the election on his behalf.

01:21:28.760 And there was the candidate there who said, let's let's kidnap my opponent and turn him into the Chinese consulist.

01:21:36.460 joe tay was uh was the opponent it was uh what was the guy's name uh it's it's escaping me right

01:21:41.780 now but um paul chang um yeah former police commissioner or something wasn't he that guy

01:21:48.500 uh i don't remember but i remember the guy that they replaced him with uh the video came out

01:21:54.180 almost right away there is singing you know oh my china or something in a military uniform

01:22:00.160 I'm doing all Chinese.

01:22:02.200 And this is the same Mark and Unionville writing, you know,

01:22:06.360 where it's got a history of this kind of interference. 0.91

01:22:09.720 And so, I mean, I don't call them the Chinese Communist Liberal Party of Canada for nothing.

01:22:14.820 And I think Trump is very aware of what's happening here, 0.84

01:22:19.460 that we're essentially captured by China. 0.68

01:22:21.840 And I'm sure he's aware that we boo the national anthem at our hockey games.

01:22:26.120 And did you see the Americans singing our national anthem in Buffalo recently?

01:22:30.160 yeah so there's there's an issue i think he he does want us but there's an issue with winning

01:22:35.180 the hearts and minds um and uh you know they they um i don't think that there's going to be any kind

01:22:42.220 of an invasion um and i think you seem to be suggesting that the the king is maybe just going

01:22:47.820 to sign off on transferring the territory to the united states that's what i think or or he's just 0.97

01:22:53.940 going to tell carney to stop it right now just stop being an ass because what why doesn't carney 0.97

01:22:59.480 have a deal yet. Was it Ludnik who called it political malpractice? Absolutely. Yeah, it 0.99

01:23:06.000 absolutely is. He didn't threaten us, by the way. He made us a very generous offer that would have

01:23:12.960 made us all richer, given us better health care, more security, freedom of speech, guns. It would

01:23:22.380 have been a vast improvement if we did become the 51st state. And by the way, we would be America's

01:23:28.460 second poorest state per capita just above mississippi and below alabama and it's only

01:23:33.900 because of alberta that that we're above uh mississippi so so bear that in mind there's

01:23:40.180 some situation where trump could say you know canada's infiltrated by the chinese as you just 0.83

01:23:45.540 pointed out say they're a national security threat we cannot have this border unsecured

01:23:50.680 so what would be his next steps without you know sands invasion he's not going to invade but what

01:23:56.500 what would he do then would he say no canadians allowed in america shut down all the ports of

01:24:01.640 entry he said he said he would use economic pressure he did say that to uh to acquire us

01:24:07.720 as the 51st state and but it's not working fast enough it's not but he has bigger fish to fry

01:24:14.580 right now and i think that because of the relationship the historical relationship

01:24:19.820 because he genuinely likes us i think he likes canadians um and uh i think that you know he

01:24:25.100 he doesn't he doesn't want that kind of bad blood but it's it's kind of a slow burn where you see

01:24:30.700 a lot of his administration like cash patel said southern border secure whatever whatever federal

01:24:36.460 fentanyl is coming to the united states right now it's coming from canada um so uh so there's this

01:24:42.060 kind of a slow bird lutnik's coming out and calling it uh political malpractice and i think he's stuck 0.99

01:24:47.740 his words were we suck canada sucks they suck that's what he said he's just being honest you 0.99

01:24:54.380 can't they're shutting down the transitioning of kids and and we're going full steam ahead 0.99

01:25:01.660 well that's the thing right well go ahead well i was sorry i was just going to say did you catch

01:25:07.760 that uh dr kachadorian in the national post who said that she was one of the first doctors to

01:25:13.140 transition kids in canada and now she's saying that it needs to be reviewed so that was another

01:25:17.500 positive development in her favor well timed for uh for mayday event um so like i said i think there

01:25:23.180 is a shift happening and we've got to go to the parliament right now and put the politicians

01:25:26.860 on blast you're the only ones who are on board with this stuff do you think that uh that any

01:25:32.420 left-wing media is going to show up i hope they do and i hope they cover it and i hope they actually

01:25:37.040 air it if if they do show up the uh the guys the parliamentary press gallery seem to think that

01:25:43.700 there will be some interest um we're trying to get the independent guys in there we got you know

01:25:49.220 some names on the list and i'm sure like national post is going to show up the western standard

01:25:54.120 might show up um and uh the the toronto like the sun news they they might show up they're all the

01:26:01.120 thing is to get in the parliamentary press gallery what they expect is that you have your tax

01:26:04.220 accreditation like the cra gives you a tax credit as a news organization and of course they won't

01:26:10.060 give it to people like rebel news and uh um juno news so uh they can't get in um but we're going to

01:26:17.660 make ourselves available to them outside as soon as we're done the parliamentary press gallery but

01:26:20.740 we will be on cpac 100 um so that's that's access to mainstream right to kind of penetrate that

01:26:29.260 normie bubble um even if it's just a little bit um because like we got to shake people awake on

01:26:35.540 this one there's a lot of people who are still sleeping um even even conservatives in fact i

01:26:40.180 get attacked by conservatives probably more than anything when i'm calling out bill c4 more than

01:26:43.800 anybody um they're like yeah like no my pr would never do that yes he would he absolutely would

01:26:50.020 and i talked to him again i i caught up with him in 2024 at a campaign event and i was like yeah

01:26:55.620 you remember me what are you going to do about that bill and uh you know well and then they had

01:26:59.940 the convention they did nothing about the bill they still support it so i got kicked out of a

01:27:04.180 conservative uh rally last year in winnipeg they kicked me out security came and grabbed me and

01:27:09.680 They kicked me out, literally.

01:27:11.280 Yeah.

01:27:12.100 I was a rebel rouser or something.

01:27:14.300 I forget what it was.

01:27:14.960 Tamara knows.

01:27:16.060 And I see them, they made a guy take off his Make Canada Great Again hat

01:27:20.620 or Make America Great Again hat before he went in there.

01:27:24.200 They made April Hutchinson take her, she had like, you know, 1.00

01:27:29.980 no men in women's sports. 1.00

01:27:31.520 I don't know what it said, but she had, you know, 1.00

01:27:34.540 something to that effect on her T-shirt.

01:27:37.360 They made her take that off and put something else on

01:27:39.460 in order to pose for a picture with Pierre Polyev.

01:27:42.260 So they got a lot of work to do.

01:27:45.180 It's like I said, they're too progressive.

01:27:46.900 They have too many progressives in the party.

01:27:49.120 You know, it's funny.

01:27:49.720 Aaron O'Toole came out and said last week,

01:27:51.320 this is just after he was named to the U.S. Trade Committee there by Carney.

01:27:58.000 He came out and said, you know, Polyev,

01:27:59.440 he's really got to tone down his social conservative rhetoric.

01:28:04.000 What are you talking about?

01:28:05.700 What?

01:28:06.140 what are you talking about that's going to kill him it's it's going to keep him from ever winning

01:28:10.460 another election in canada his social conservative rhetoric what social conservative rhetoric rhetoric

01:28:16.880 all he's ever talking about is housing and carney's overspending and carney was wrong carney was wrong

01:28:21.680 but he never talks about kids transitioning at the age of 12 13 8 whatever never talks about the big

01:28:28.540 stuff like the stuff that means something to canadians right like the property rights thing

01:28:33.000 has only just recently come up at the federal level.

01:28:36.160 And in BC, I mean, if you own a home, beware, man.

01:28:40.060 You might not have that home next year

01:28:41.800 because of what's going on with DRIPA over there.

01:28:45.160 Anyway, I know it's late where you are, Jeff.

01:28:47.700 You got a busy couple of days

01:28:49.300 before you take off for Ottawa.

01:28:51.040 MaydayCanada.com, you guys.

01:28:52.800 Thank you for coming on tonight, my friend.

01:28:54.640 And we'll have you on again soon.

01:28:56.140 There's so much more we could talk about, obviously.

01:28:58.480 Absolutely.

01:28:59.240 Anytime, Chad.

01:28:59.980 It's a pleasure, man.

01:29:01.100 Take care.

01:29:01.380 Thank you, Jeff.

01:29:01.880 All right.

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The Shadoe Davis Show - May 01, 2026

April 30th⧸2026- W⧸Canadian Hero Jeff Evely!

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