The Shadoe Davis Show - August 19th⧸2026- Guest： MP Dean Allison of The Allison Inquiry

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00:04:59.220 Welcome to the show. This is the Shadow Davis Show. It's Wednesday, August the 19th, 2026.

00:05:05.880 And we have a very special guest on the show tonight. His name is Dean Allison.

00:05:09.680 You probably heard that name in the last couple of months.

00:05:12.480 He's the man behind the Allison Inquiry, which is happening September 8th through 11th in Ottawa.

00:05:18.460 It's not an official government panel. It's not an official government inquiry.

00:05:25.160 but dean is lending his name and his position to this which is definitely strengthening the message

00:05:31.360 throughout the country and dean is going to join us in a couple of minutes here

00:05:35.400 this is the website by the way it says covid testimony.com we had sean buckley on who is

00:05:41.420 going to be he is a huge part of this inquiry actually going forward he's been a great

00:05:45.760 spokesperson for this he has been great at the press conferences you may have seen

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00:05:52.280 Sean says, if you go to Allison Inquiry, 1.00

00:05:54.320 that's A-L-L-I-S-O-N,

00:05:56.920 allisoninquiry.com,

00:05:58.280 this comes up as well.

00:05:59.440 But what you see in the URL right now

00:06:01.820 is covidtestimony.com.

00:06:05.640 Volunteers right now

00:06:07.020 are in the middle of vetting

00:06:09.000 through over 1,000 applications

00:06:11.140 for people who want to testify.

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00:06:14.280 than 1,000 by now.

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00:06:16.940 We'll ask Dean in just a second.

00:06:18.220 But there are many people who want to testify about their experience with the COVID-19 vaccine.

00:06:26.220 And again, that is coming up September 8th through 11th in Ottawa.

00:06:29.820 Let's bring them on right now.

00:06:30.840 Here is Dean Allison.

00:06:32.020 Dean, thank you for joining the show tonight.

00:06:33.660 I appreciate you coming on.

00:06:34.920 And I want to congratulate you on 22 years as of this past June as the MP for Niagara West.

00:06:42.580 Well, thank you.

00:06:43.160 Thanks for having me on the show tonight.

00:06:44.780 Absolutely.

00:06:45.480 22 years.

00:06:46.400 i'm sure you've you've seen a few things back then paul martin was the pm wasn't he that's right

00:06:51.280 that's right you know the uh he worked so hard to become the prime minister by undermining mr

00:06:56.880 kretchen that he he didn't stay very long so i guess his prize was winning the leadership

00:07:01.520 not actually being able to govern for any length of time how long was he in there like a year was

00:07:05.840 it was it that year and a half i mean we had election 04 uh where they had a minority and

00:07:10.400 then 06 we had a minority so you know the delta of whatever those those days where they all blend in

00:07:16.160 after nine elections, they all sort of blend in. Was it the fall? Was it the spring? When was that

00:07:20.480 exactly? So yeah. So you were there through the Harper years, and then obviously the Trudeau

00:07:25.360 years, and now the Carney years. What changes have you seen? Anything come to mind immediately

00:07:30.160 over your 22 years? Yeah, I think we're less civil now than we ever used to be, right? You know,

00:07:35.380 I think when Trudeau Jr. 2.0, which was not new and improved, it was actually much worse,

00:07:42.880 showed up, I think the civility, you know, you know, went down. And I think as we move towards

00:07:49.080 COVID and, you know, all the stuff that happened there and the, just the, just the, the remarks

00:07:55.460 that came from the leader of, you know, the prime minister of our country were not helpful at all.

00:07:59.720 So, you know, I, I'm not saying that, you know, everything, you know, we're, we're in an adversarial

00:08:04.780 role, right? I mean, we're the opposition, we're the government, whatever you are. And what ends

00:08:09.900 up happening is is that you know you still have the respect of members from the other side and

00:08:14.760 there's still that but i just noticed you know ever since uh trudeau got elected i it's been

00:08:20.200 so much more divisive i think that's uh that's the best way i can describe it does the wokeness

00:08:26.820 factor play into it a lot oh yes yeah no yeah uh the divisiveness and the wokeness definitely

00:08:35.020 that's definitely that's definitely part of it for sure have things changed in that way around

00:08:39.560 parliament hill i mean are you seeing signs up there that say equity respect uh diversity is

00:08:45.560 our strength all of that stuff i mean you know and the reason i ask you that dean is because

00:08:49.120 i was traveling through british columbia last year and on every you know every highway stop

00:08:54.820 where you could stop and look at the beautiful view of the mountains there was a sign about

00:08:59.380 diversity is our strength equity and inclusion and all of that and i went oh my goodness they

00:09:05.500 have to do this at the roadside bathrooms in bc have they done that at parliament hill yeah i mean

00:09:11.640 the biggest tell is when you go into the men's washroom there's a tampon and uh and pad dispenser

00:09:17.360 i mean if that doesn't say woke i don't know what does so i thought they were only only doing that

00:09:21.980 in the military it's hanging on the wall oh my god that's terribly embarrassing oh yeah what what

00:09:30.320 are your thoughts on this trade deal that apparently we've reached here and i'm going to get into this

00:09:34.500 later on in the show tonight, but, uh, any thoughts on this at all? I mean, we don't know

00:09:39.140 many details, right? Yeah. So, you know, I, I, I don't think the deal will be as good as we had

00:09:43.580 offered back about a year, year and a half ago. Uh, you know, Hoekstra said we pretty much had

00:09:48.700 a deal done and then, uh, Doug Ford went out and had that, uh, you know, Ronald Reagan commercial

00:09:53.760 that kind of torpedoed, uh, torpedoed that deal. And so if you think of what happened in the

00:09:59.300 meantime, you know, you know, one thing that businesses need is certainty, right? They need

00:10:03.300 certainty and we've seen this constant grip of people bright our brightest and our best leaving

00:10:09.220 the country we've seen businesses trying to hedge their bets by building factories and plants south

00:10:14.320 of the border and so you know you can say whatever you want about trying to get this deal that deal

00:10:19.860 businesses need certainty and so what we've seen happen is basically even even yesterday i had a

00:10:26.280 business in my riding call me and they said you know what dean work if the tariffs take place uh

00:10:30.860 It's going to cost us about $200,000 a day.

00:10:34.300 And if that happens, the 500 or so jobs in my small town close to me are going to be gone.

00:10:39.960 They already have some facilities south of the border.

00:10:43.260 And the reason they're still in Canada is because they're proud Canadians, right?

00:10:46.420 Full stop.

00:10:46.900 They're proud Canadians and they want to be here.

00:10:48.720 So when you're having these kind of conversations because you're not sitting down at the table and having conversations with your largest trading partner across the border,

00:10:59.540 that creates a lot of uncertainty. And so businesses have to make a decision. They have

00:11:04.620 to survive. They're going to figure out what they're going to do to get their products to

00:11:07.700 market. All that would have been alleviated with a deal getting done. And remember what Mr. Carney

00:11:12.160 said, I'll have a deal done ASAP, right? I'll have a deal done in June or July, whatever that date

00:11:17.100 was way back over a year ago. So I think that's a challenge. And even today, we've seen a bit of a

00:11:24.500 day of execution if you will and when the president of the united states is tweeting

00:11:30.720 out at midnight what a great deal he got i'm not so sure that that's a good indication that

00:11:37.640 we've got ourselves a great deal now we don't know the details you just hit the nail on the

00:11:41.780 headshot like what are the details and we you know little drips and drabs are starting to come out

00:11:46.160 right now but i'm telling you right now that we absolutely he promised to get us an awesome deal

00:11:52.540 a better deal and now if you see the way the language changes you see the way they start to

00:11:57.640 backpedal and all these things we just know it's not nearly going to be as good and so we waited

00:12:02.220 for a year a year and a half to get a deal we could have had last year or even had a better

00:12:06.580 deal last year boy what what damage have we done to our economy in the meantime because of all the

00:12:11.840 uncertainty and remember businesses need certainty yeah this is what i've been saying especially in

00:12:17.220 the last couple of months i said every single day that carney lets this go and what was he on

00:12:21.580 vacation in italy for a couple of weeks leading up to this absolutely leading up to the deadline

00:12:26.860 like seriously terrible optics man uh every day that goes by we're losing a deal is what i said

00:12:35.460 and and it's going to get worse every single day here's what pierre poly have said today

00:12:40.100 to help the prime minister since the very beginning i've done it numerous times in our

00:12:45.700 phone calls when i went to the united states of america i very clearly refused to criticize him

00:12:51.460 on foreign soil. I briefed him on my visit and my meetings with governors and other American

00:12:59.900 leaders. And but our MPs have reached out again and again to the government to offer any help we

00:13:07.520 can. Richard Bragdon here is the chair of the Canada U.S. Parliamentary Friendship Group. He's

00:13:12.060 been continually offering his help. But Mr. Carney has refused to have any help from anybody.

00:13:18.640 dean what is the attitude of the liberal party of canada my sense is that they have a certain

00:13:26.980 arrogance about them and they look at the rest of us as though we're some kind of insect yeah

00:13:33.240 no listen like the arrogance is astounding right you see at the end of the day we have so many

00:13:38.380 things that the u.s wants you know critical minerals lumber oil and gas all these things i

00:13:44.360 I mean, Trump even talked about Keystone XL today being one of the things that needed to happen to get the deal done.

00:13:52.080 So if you look at what we have to offer, we actually should be at a strong negotiating position.

00:13:57.480 You look at what Mexico's done.

00:13:58.680 Mexico has gotten past the rhetoric, and it's okay not to be happy with the rhetoric.

00:14:03.180 No one is.

00:14:04.420 But we also need to be pragmatic, right?

00:14:06.320 You know, we sell 75% of our goods to the U.S.

00:14:09.820 Once again, I'm sure something you've been informing your listeners about.

00:14:12.740 well, they only buy 16% of our goods.

00:14:15.160 So who then is really in the strong negotiating position?

00:14:18.800 And so to go around with his elbows up baloney

00:14:20.900 that we've been talking about,

00:14:22.320 it's just, it's absolutely embarrassing in terms of that.

00:14:24.980 But, you know, the greater problem is,

00:14:26.420 is that when you start acting arrogant

00:14:29.780 and other countries in the world get deals,

00:14:32.080 get better deals, and we respond to that,

00:14:34.280 that makes absolutely no sense.

00:14:35.680 And it creates a weaker bargaining position.

00:14:38.340 You know, I'm not sure that Trump ever planned

00:14:40.420 and tariffing us 50%.

00:14:42.220 But these guys have been ragging the puck.

00:14:44.600 These guys have not been actually serious

00:14:46.600 and at the table.

00:14:47.380 They haven't been doing much.

00:14:48.720 And he wanted to get the deal done.

00:14:50.600 And so you see what happens.

00:14:52.000 When that happens, everyone jumps

00:14:53.360 and they start showing up.

00:14:54.860 So how does that put us

00:14:56.020 in a strong negotiating position

00:14:57.440 when we could be negotiating early on,

00:15:00.380 be the first at the table

00:15:01.360 and all those other kinds of things?

00:15:02.840 Listen, I'm a small businessman.

00:15:04.720 That's what I did before I got into politics.

00:15:06.860 And I believe that businesses need certainty.

00:15:08.920 They need to understand what's going on.

00:15:10.900 We put through our businesses in such a terrible position over the last year to year and a half that we could have avoided,

00:15:17.640 especially if the deal we end up with as we start to find out what the details are over the coming days and weeks is going to be worse than what we could have gotten over a year ago.

00:15:26.440 You know, it's interesting because this is only a 72 hour pause in the tariff threat that Trump put on us yesterday.

00:15:32.640 So we're not out of the woods.

00:15:33.860 I mean, he says we've got a deal, but I mean, the liberals, well, wait, hold on, hold on just a second.

00:15:38.340 And today there's news of Carney going around to all the premiers saying, can you remove the booze bands?

00:15:45.060 Yeah, it's actually laughable.

00:15:48.640 And, you know, the trauma with the mainstream media is they do all the bidding of the Liberal Party.

00:15:53.800 And so, you know, quite frankly, when you're on the payroll and you just look at where they start, you know, it's like, you know, Carney says, we'll get a better deal than we had before in USMCA.

00:16:04.760 And then they says, you know, the you can just tell where the talking points are coming when the media comes out and says, you know what, we may have we may have to lower expectations.

00:16:14.620 Like it's it's almost comical when you look at the narrative in the in the mainstream media in terms of the changing on almost a daily basis.

00:16:21.580 Like, OK, did you guys get your talking points today from the Liberal Party?

00:16:25.080 OK, now now I understand what this is going.

00:16:27.600 If you want to you want to know what the deal is going to be like, start listening to what the mainstream media is saying in terms of what they think about the deal,

00:16:33.640 in terms of what we can live with or live without or how we're going to have to adjust our

00:16:37.360 expectations it is quite comical in this day and age and and i wasn't going to ask this but i will

00:16:42.960 now uh you you just mentioned the mainstream we call them the left-wing corporate media on this

00:16:48.200 show and we have for the past five or six years because i believe in calling an entity or a group

00:16:52.920 of entities what they are um how have they and stephen harper recently talked about this as well

00:17:00.560 how have they affected the political landscape and the overton window in this country over the

00:17:07.360 past 10 or 11 years well and if you think about it you know the media is part of it but also

00:17:12.820 uh justin trudeau was also a part of that i mean he switched he moved the lid the window so far

00:17:17.460 left i mean he went so far left that uh he gobbled up a lot of the ndp vote right i mean the ndp was

00:17:22.560 basically non-existent in the last couple elections and even through the last election

00:17:27.480 Although that we'd also have to give some credit to Jagmeet, right? We just can't. We can't give all the credit to Justin and to Mark Carney. But definitely, you know, where they've been at, they've almost removed themselves from relevance in this country.

00:17:41.380 So I think it's a combination. I think it's a combination of the liberals moving far left, but it's also a combination of what gets talked about in the mainstream media. And I think, you know, they absolutely have a say. You know, I'd be knocking the doors in the last election. I have a person I deed as somebody that supported me over the last 10 years, a boomer, right, of course. And, you know, CBC would be on in the background and I'd be knocking on the door and they'd say, you know, that Mark Carney, he's not that bad.

00:18:09.820 You know, so, you know, they're looking at this news every night. Right. And they don't even understand what's going on. They just understand that, you know, the media is talking about one thing. These people aren't necessarily on social media or not even aware of independent journalists or podcasters or people that actually have an alternative opinion.

00:18:28.680 And so that's the challenge when you look at in a case where, you know, this goes back, you know, 10, 20, 30 years when you had guys like Peter Kent doing the national news.

00:18:39.580 I sat with him as a colleague, a wonderful man.

00:18:41.840 I love Peter.

00:18:43.020 Nolte Nash, all these all these people that were honest brokers in the day and actually, I think, you know, did their best to the point where we are now.

00:18:51.100 where in a lot of CBC in particular, you know, conservatives don't even get a point of view

00:18:56.340 or there's not a point of view that's shown or, you know, it's sort of frowned upon in terms,

00:19:03.120 you know, how could you actually think like that?

00:19:05.140 So I think the challenge has been as you look at where Justin has taken the country

00:19:09.460 and you look at where the media has followed, you know, that puts everyone in a difficult position

00:19:15.520 because, you know, what seemed to be right of center now seems far right for some strange reason, right?

00:19:21.960 Well, not to us.

00:19:23.400 I mean, like we want to talk about immigration, like, you know, you're a lot of millions of people not vetting them.

00:19:27.540 And you are far, you're far right.

00:19:29.220 Like, I mean, it makes absolutely zero sense.

00:19:31.260 But yes, absolutely.

00:19:32.720 The order window has switched because of a combination of Trudeau and the media.

00:19:37.300 Peter Paliyev was fighting back against them with the Apple video, I think a couple of years ago.

00:19:41.820 right? And he still stands up to them when they ask ridiculous questions with a stupid premise. 1.00

00:19:47.500 I mean, like they're asking from this liberal confirmation bias angle all the time. And he's 1.00

00:19:53.300 a villain all the time. I mean, that's how they envision him, right? That's how they depict him

00:19:58.080 in every single story that they do, whether it's print, whether it's television or whatever

00:20:02.880 translates onto social media. What kind of a guy is Pierre Polyev anyway? You know, I'll tell you

00:20:08.260 a story i met him one time i was working uh the morning show at a rock station in ottawa and i

00:20:14.900 walked into the studio and my sidekick had brought this this kid in for to be on the show and i said

00:20:21.700 who's this and he says oh that's pierre polyev who's who's pierre polyev this is like 2008

00:20:28.800 and he said uh oh he's an mp he's the mp for carlton i said he's an mp really he's like he's

00:20:36.300 12 years old man like he's a child and you got i mean you've known him for a long time right

00:20:42.600 looked like a child back then and so i said like what do we have him here for he goes he's funny

00:20:49.380 and so we went on the show that morning and he was in fact very funny very accommodating um so

00:20:56.140 but i never got to know him obviously that was only a couple of hours with the guy when he was

00:21:00.440 like 26 i think it was sure what what what is he like yeah so so i you know i'll give you two or

00:21:09.160 three examples and tell you what i think like i first of all i think he's one of the hardest

00:21:12.720 working guys i know uh you know a lot of leaders are hard working uh let's give you know prime

00:21:18.620 minister uh opposition leaders but this guy is on the road pretty much all the time every weekend

00:21:24.160 you know when he goes to an event and this is the tell for me in terms of you know a mark carney

00:21:30.280 or Justin Trudeau or Pierre Polyev, he will spend an hour or two,

00:21:35.580 whatever it takes, to talk to people that show up at his rallies.

00:21:40.100 Like he'll actually stay in the room and shake everyone's hand

00:21:42.780 and take a picture with anyone and everyone that wants to do it.

00:21:45.280 So think about that.

00:21:46.320 Very few leaders who do that.

00:21:47.700 So all leaders work hard, no question about that.

00:21:50.540 Pierre not only works hard, but he's prepared to listen and talk to people.

00:21:54.800 So when I talked to him with the inquiry, you know, his response was,

00:21:57.600 listen, not a week or two goes by where I don't hear from somebody that waits an hour or two

00:22:04.100 in line to shake my hand, get a picture, and they've told me that they're injured. So that's

00:22:08.960 the difference between a leader that's actually grounded on the ground, right, that actually is

00:22:12.880 talking to people versus this Ottawa bubble. We all head up to Ottawa, and we get, you know,

00:22:18.060 consumed by the conversations there in Ottawa. And I tell people, Ottawa's not the real world.

00:22:22.940 it's like fantasy land like you know it's it's where all the woke people are it's what you know

00:22:27.320 choose whatever you want to say it's not it's not oil and gas workers it's not for it's not

00:22:32.220 people working on in factory floors you know what i'm saying they don't care about that stuff they

00:22:36.660 don't so it's important that you get out to be able to do that so i also think that he's actually

00:22:41.620 does his homework like nobody else says he studies hard he understands the issues he knows his

00:22:47.460 numbers always impressed with that and that's why he's able to push back the last thing i say is

00:22:52.240 that uh and i could say many things but the last thing i'll say is that uh he doesn't mind pushing

00:22:57.380 back you know so many times uh mainstream media is ruthless right they're just they're nasty they

00:23:02.900 say stuff that's not true they they talk the whatever and they're always surprised when a

00:23:08.140 politician actually stands up and pushes back and that's one of the things i love about pierre and i

00:23:13.000 know that that sometimes makes some people feel uncomfortable but i'm saying like people are

00:23:17.280 taking shots at you they're taking shots at the party they're taking shots at the country they're

00:23:21.900 you know, continuing to puff up the prime minister as if he's doing some kind of amazing job.

00:23:26.280 And Pierre calls him out of that stuff. You know, the Apple video is one, one example,

00:23:30.340 but the reality is, is that if someone comes up with a premise that is just foolish, 0.95

00:23:35.700 it makes zero sense. He has no problem calling him out. And so I think that's, that's, that's a 0.96

00:23:41.680 great attribute. The other thing I say, he does listen. You know, we, we're always have this,

00:23:45.640 we have this thing called caucus, right? People go, what is a caucus? You know, it's, it's,

00:23:49.640 It's time for the team to get together.

00:23:51.020 We call it a caucus.

00:23:52.040 Everyone's got their weird names for what they do.

00:23:54.220 And we meet every Wednesday morning, as all parties do, to discuss what we're doing.

00:23:59.300 And one thing I can tell you is that he is never completely married to an idea, meaning he will always take a stand and push an idea.

00:24:07.080 But we have an opportunity to come up in the morning about Wednesday morning or any time.

00:24:11.580 We have access to him and talk to him.

00:24:13.960 And he's always willing and able to consider maybe changes of opinion.

00:24:19.900 That to me is the true sign of a leader.

00:24:22.520 Anyone that's willing to take new facts into the equation and be able to change their opinion based on new information that's been added.

00:24:29.600 Okay, so speaking about changing an opinion, and I'm not sure what Pierre's opinion about vaccine injuries was before.

00:24:36.960 but you had to have gone to the leader of your party before even thinking about doing the allison

00:24:45.380 inquiry and again you guys september 8th through 11th in ottawa and you can find more information

00:24:49.920 at covid testimony.com allisoninquiry.com how did that go how how was that conversation did

00:24:55.860 he know what to expect when you walked into his office that day or when you went for coffee

00:24:59.660 wherever it was you know so i i kind of made a commitment i've been thinking about this for

00:25:03.980 many years shadow like i you know i i had people calling me during covid who you know required to

00:25:10.880 have the the jab in order to keep their job or travel see grandma see kids but you know you

00:25:15.980 insert whatever you want there right i remember this uh third year nursing student that had spent

00:25:21.120 three years in nursing saying like they're going to kick me out of my program and i just this is

00:25:25.940 a problem a problem i've had of and in a lot of cases it wasn't just i i don't want it i've had

00:25:30.980 allergic reactions. You know, there was some medical reason why they wanted to do it, but

00:25:34.680 we're issuing no exemptions. I remember a truck driver who's in his early 60s saying like, you

00:25:40.200 know, Dean, if I don't take this, then I can't keep my job. And if I don't keep my job, I can't

00:25:44.380 pay my mortgage and put food on my table. So a lot of these people were placed in very untenable

00:25:49.260 situations. So I understand the challenge they were. And so if you move forward a little bit

00:25:53.880 from then, I also heard of people reaching out to me. I had a private member's bill that said

00:25:59.340 federal employees should not uh be required to have the vaccine to keep their job that you know

00:26:04.020 all people should be allowed to travel on airplanes i had it was defeated the opposition

00:26:08.720 voted against it but i always have promoted vaccine choice like you choose it you you do you

00:26:13.840 i'll do me but don't don't cut me out of society because uh i i'm not willing to comply right it's

00:26:19.800 called uh you know it it's it it's so important that people have a choice to be able to do that

00:26:26.360 And so all these things, and so people have been talking to me for some time about these issues.

00:26:30.920 And I thought, you know what, this is something I really need to do.

00:26:33.820 But the timing was never right.

00:26:36.020 Shadow, you'd be only too familiar about there was not really many people that wanted to talk about this issue two or three years ago, especially when we were in the heat of things.

00:26:45.320 And so I had been thinking about it.

00:26:47.280 And then one day, Sean and Teresa Buckley showed up at my door to talk about natural health products, which I support, by the way.

00:26:54.120 I was it was a it was a bill by Blake Hawkins around natural health products and they came to

00:27:01.000 talk and I was you know vaguely familiar with the NCI National Citizens Inquiry for all those people

00:27:06.960 that don't know all the acronyms out there and I so I was aware of that I was aware that he was

00:27:11.600 involved I didn't know what the context was I'd maybe seen some some stuff come across my feed

00:27:17.020 that he was chairing some of that stuff and so I knew that he obviously had an interest in this

00:27:21.540 stuff and i talked to him this was back last october i said sean i'm i'm thinking i'd like

00:27:26.280 to do this i'm not 100 sure because you know no one really wants to talk about this stuff but

00:27:30.600 i feel like i feel like we need to talk about it i know people feel like they've been abandoned

00:27:35.740 they've been gaslit the light the list goes on and on and so we we we kept having this conversation

00:27:41.880 we got into the spring and they said you know what do you think and i said well i i i really

00:27:46.760 still think i'd like to do it and they said well what happens if the party doesn't agree and i

00:27:50.640 why i don't think that would be the case but they they wanted a commitment from me because

00:27:54.780 obviously any kind of work that we would go in volunteers vetting people all the stuff that's

00:28:00.740 gone in and they've done an incredible amount of work as as have all our volunteers um they

00:28:07.180 realized that we couldn't just say we're going to do this and then pull the pins on this and so

00:28:11.680 that was around the time that we had a couple people cross the floor and uh you know we went

00:28:17.460 from a minority yeah wait a minute hold on you had people cross the floor i don't want to say

00:28:22.040 that i i i even hate admitting that happened but you know for various personal reasons uh you know

00:28:28.580 that people uh were enticed and they were all enticed i don't know what all they were uh and

00:28:34.900 so all of a sudden we lost this minority opportunity and you know the vaccine injury

00:28:38.320 program was something on the health committee's radar as a matter of fact dan masur who was our

00:28:43.280 health uh chair and critic at the time it's done a phenomenal job dan has just done yeoman service

00:28:48.200 uh they wanted to raise this as a question in committee i don't think committee would ever

00:28:53.020 hear from vaccine injured people that just never going to happen but i thought at very least we

00:28:59.020 maybe get some meetings on the vaccine injury support program there's some uh great great work

00:29:05.060 done that you know was aired by global news back last year and that sort of talked about the the

00:29:11.200 farce of the program how there was 55 million dollars committed one piece they did one what's

00:29:17.420 that they did one piece on it one piece that was it well and and i as i realized i was talking to

00:29:24.800 uh tammy uh from rebel news uh uh tamara ugolini uh you know i i did an interview with her on the

00:29:32.340 like last week and she said i i did all the foyer requests i know the freedom of information she put

00:29:37.220 that story together and she did just she did phenomenal work and I didn't realize that this

00:29:41.260 is the first time I was hearing about it was was all her hard work and so when you start looking

00:29:45.840 at those things and realize that this is never going to see the light of day I said well we've

00:29:50.320 got to do something because we're running out of time we've got to do that and so like I said

00:29:55.300 Sean and Teresa were patient with me as I was trying to work through all the things in my head

00:29:59.700 that needed to happen and then when we finally decided to go then I said I've got to give Pierre

00:30:05.220 the heads up a hundred percent like he's got to be a part of the conversation so i had a chance

00:30:10.140 to see him and i said listen i'm going to just keep it to two or three very simple things things

00:30:14.660 that are in our control and things we do as members of parliament that's where we try to stay

00:30:19.380 on the side like i mean we can have an inquiry about lockdowns we can have an inquiry about

00:30:24.300 all the kids that got lost in the system 125 000 kids that entered and left the school system and

00:30:30.580 never returned uh and i have a good friend erwin student that's done a phenomenal work on that and

00:30:36.700 wait wait wait like 125 000 kids across the country like when when covid lockdowns were

00:30:42.980 happening they just never went back they left the school so you should have erwin on your

00:30:46.560 your show sometime they actually left the system and never returned i had no idea this happened

00:30:53.860 all over the country so we could talk about a hundred different things right but the reality

00:30:58.300 is what i do every day is listen to people i could have 10 people in my office over the course

00:31:04.040 of a day and i'd hear 10 different topics 10 different things that would be so important

00:31:09.240 to these individuals and they are important to every one of those people and the second thing

00:31:13.960 we do is we we work on behalf of constituents to get them access to government programs people

00:31:19.300 have a hard time figuring out the malaise of you know cpp canadian pension plan oh yes old age

00:31:25.180 security, right? GIS, guaranteed income. All these things that not everyone has an easy time

00:31:30.680 figuring this stuff out. I remember dropping forms off for a guy that wanted to collect

00:31:34.820 a pension plan. He doesn't have a computer. Old farmer. And I drove and handed the forms to him

00:31:42.920 and said, you fill these out. And if you want me to take them back, we'll mail them in for you.

00:31:46.520 He actually mailed them in himself. So two things we do every day privately is we listen to people's

00:31:52.300 stories and we help them access programs so when i went to pierre i said listen at the end of the

00:31:56.640 day we're going to hear from people that have been injured and we'll verify that because doctors will

00:32:01.540 have had to sign off it's not just you know i think it may have happened all that stuff there's

00:32:05.640 a lot of people that think they could be injured and and and sadly they are but we needed something

00:32:10.860 more because we wanted to make sure it was i i thought it was important for the integrity of

00:32:15.540 what we did to make sure that was bulletproof like there are so many more people i believe that

00:32:19.740 are injured that actually have actually the government numbers and then i said the last

00:32:24.380 thing is the government already admits people have been injured they say there's 60 000 people

00:32:27.960 they started a vaccine injury program 60 000 people injured 11 000 seriously 3 500 people

00:32:34.140 applied to the program 3 000 people got in 252 out of 60 000 got compensation that's less than

00:32:41.660 0.400 think about that for one second what is going on here so we have people that we come in

00:32:47.800 every day that are, don't feel comfortable sharing their stories. We have people that can't access

00:32:53.400 the program, right? And then we have another challenge of, you know, helping people navigate

00:32:59.220 the system. So when I talked to Pierre about that, I said, this would be my thought process

00:33:03.940 on how we handle it. And I, like I said, I'm worried because, you know, people want to talk

00:33:08.640 about the science of the vaccines. Well, maybe they do, but that's not, that's above my pay

00:33:12.420 grade. That's going to be, have to be done with my doctors and PhDs, you know, epidemiologists,

00:33:16.660 all these other other vaccine knowledge all that kind of stuff i don't have time for that and that's

00:33:21.080 not the possibility we'll keep this thing very tight we'll make sure we hear people's stories

00:33:25.860 we'll let people know that they have permission to speak freely that they have permission to speak

00:33:31.000 publicly and i think that's what's been missing shadow so much is that people have felt gaslit

00:33:35.720 and they felt abandoned and they don't feel like they could talk about their stories publicly

00:33:39.560 and so i've just said if we can we can give people permission to tell their stories publicly we'll

00:33:45.260 done a great thing it'd be a great starting point more more needs to be done more conversations

00:33:50.380 second of all is we hear people's stories and i've heard them sean has heard them it is such

00:33:54.860 a nightmare trying to access the program and very like i said 252 out of 60 000 is absolutely

00:34:01.580 ridiculous and so we don't have much money that's contributed to the program there's been a pause

00:34:06.140 on the program they're going to reintroduce a new program i would hope that they would introduce it 0.68

00:34:10.540 with more money and they would try and streamline the process and make it easier for people to have

00:34:15.680 access to it. And so once again, it's the good work that, uh, Tamara Ugolini had done, uh, you 0.94

00:34:22.100 know, with freedom of information, all that stuff gave us that information. And so I think that

00:34:26.620 with the premise of those things, I think it makes a lot of sense. And I, you know, we're

00:34:30.300 going to, we're going to work hard to stick to that mandate. Dean, you talked about the Ottawa

00:34:34.620 bubble earlier, and you also talked about, you know, the minutia of things in your own riding

00:34:39.940 when you're there talking to people and you listen to their stories every day.

00:34:44.180 And they're not always going to be about vaccine injuries.

00:34:47.020 Like you say, they're going to be about, I haven't got a computer.

00:34:49.740 I can't get my forms in.

00:34:50.840 And so there you are running around with paper forms dropping them off for a constituent of yours.

00:34:56.080 Had you heard any of these incredibly traumatic vaccine injury stories

00:35:02.940 before the Allison Inquiry happened?

00:35:06.040 people like michelle wharton or kayla pollack or kevin street talking about how badly they have

00:35:12.700 been injured and permanently yeah no i i definitely heard some i like i said i people have actually

00:35:18.520 called my office to talk about these things that was kind of one of the reasons that i wanted to

00:35:23.100 do this is because of those stories i've heard i haven't heard all of them i've heard some of them

00:35:28.040 in great detail some of them i've seen on a social media post right various various levels of

00:35:33.480 understanding uh meaning i don't know like i i'd heard of michelle wharton but i never heard her

00:35:40.040 story until she talked about it our second press conference so yeah when you start hearing more

00:35:45.720 details your heart breaks and you understand like oh my goodness i already understood a lot

00:35:51.080 of these people had some major issues and were challenged but to the depth or you know how it

00:35:56.520 affects the rest of their lives sometimes you just don't you don't get a chance to hear all

00:36:01.000 all of that stuff. So yeah, I definitely heard some stories. I haven't heard them all, but

00:36:04.500 definitely had heard a bunch of stories. It was part of, we were one of the reasons, Shadow, that

00:36:08.460 I wanted to have an inquiry because I thought people also needed to hear these stories, not

00:36:12.420 just me in the privacy of my own office, but other people needed to hear the story, their stories

00:36:17.100 across the country. I'm going to put this Michelle Wharton video up. This is, as you say, from the

00:36:21.540 second press conference that you guys did. And well, it's heartbreaking listening to her and

00:36:26.700 she's been on this show a couple of times as well. Hello, Michelle, if you're watching right now,

00:36:30.160 by the way. And I'm not sure if you're in the frame or not, but I do know that Sean Buckley is,

00:36:35.100 and he's standing behind her. And I'll tell you what he said about this after we're done.

00:36:45.840 The cost cannot be measured only in terms of medical ailments. This injury robs you of the

00:36:53.220 life you once dreamed of. It tears your body apart cell by

00:37:08.980 cell. And it does not stop with the injured. Our spouses, our

00:37:18.220 children our parents our families our loved ones they carry these wounds alongside us

00:37:27.580 without acknowledgement there is no pathway to care

00:37:33.580 five years

00:37:36.460 half a decade we've waited while our health declined the systems meant to protect us looked away

00:37:45.340 for many like myself we want to share our stories while we still have the health and

00:37:49.340 the strength to do so many are becoming less able to participate in their in advocacy efforts

00:38:01.580 we have encountered profound systemic gaps between adverse event reporting

00:38:05.660 ongoing safety surveillance and support this is vital to provide informed decision making

00:38:12.140 and recovery many have experienced fragmented care financial hardship dismissal medical

00:38:19.420 gaslighting and even ridicule and i can attest to this personally i've experienced it all

00:38:29.980 yeah so she talks about medical gaslighting and and i want to get into that in in a moment uh

00:38:35.740 sean said when i played that video he was on a few weeks ago he said because i'd asked him i said

00:38:41.980 dude you look like you're about to cry right and he said uh yeah well i mean obviously you know

00:38:48.080 i've heard a lot of these stories and i'd heard michelle's story he said but i was more concerned

00:38:52.220 that she was going to fall like she is that frail right now and and what this vaccine has done to

00:38:59.140 her is incredibly damaging she's lost most of her vision now she she's got some hearing difficulties

00:39:06.260 she she can't stand up for any great length of time at this stage of the game and yet she looks

00:39:11.420 spine when you see her right when you see michelle you go she looks like she's all right these these

00:39:16.760 injuries don't always appear on the outside and i i just find it remarkable that there's still so

00:39:24.840 many people out there who don't know why like this this is a this the americans are so far ahead of

00:39:39.400 on this. And I got a video here of RFK Jr. Now, there's a lot of people who think that he's a

00:39:46.580 wingnut. I don't. I think he's a very educated man. He speaks sense. He has been following

00:39:52.940 these vaccine injuries, not just for the past six years, but for the past 30, 35 years,

00:39:58.220 fighting cases against big companies like Pfizer for decades. And now they're talking about getting

00:40:06.500 rid of gain of function down there in the United States. They've changed their vaccine schedule for

00:40:10.780 children in the United States as well. Here he was on with Sean Hannity the other night.

00:40:16.180 About the origins from day one. Why was he lying? Because he funded those studies at the Wuhan lab

00:40:25.000 and he funded the studies at the University of North Carolina that developed the techniques

00:40:30.920 for weaponizing COVID-19 and then gave those, Ralph Baric, his funded scientist at the University

00:40:39.020 of North Carolina, gave those to Xi Xing Lei, the scientist, the bat lady scientist in the

00:40:45.940 Wuhan lab, and he taught her a technique that Anthony Fauci had paid him to develop called 0.75

00:40:53.800 seamless legation which is also called no-see-um it's a way of manipulating the virus to make it 0.56

00:41:01.960 deadly to human beings and then covering sorry about the fox news music playing in the background

00:41:07.500 there you guys they were trying to wrap him up here to go to commercial and he wouldn't shut up

00:41:11.780 the evidence of human manipulation and why would anybody spend nih money developing that kind of

00:41:21.420 technology. It's bioweapons technology. It has nothing to do with public health. It's the opposite. 0.52

00:41:27.340 It's the inverse of anything you would want to do with public health. Well, he's taking, he took that

00:41:33.240 and he gave it to the Chinese military lab at Wuhan. And as you mentioned at the beginning of

00:41:41.000 this, we today, NIH, has now issued a policy to make sure these kind of experiments can never

00:41:48.480 happen again, that NIH will never again pay for a dangerous gain-of-function experiment.

00:41:55.300 Mr. Secretary, it's chilling what you're describing, chilling that this all happened,

00:41:59.620 and those people need to be held accountable.

00:42:03.320 He is the Secretary of Health in the United States of America. He is openly and freely

00:42:08.380 discussing this. He gets into debates. He was in a debate with Dana Bash on CNN a couple of

00:42:14.260 weekends ago. And here in Canada, it seems as though you, Dean, are the only elected

00:42:21.320 politician in the country, provincially or federally, who is willing to even go there.

00:42:28.960 Have you had much pushback from people in your own party? Obviously, the liberals in the NDP

00:42:37.500 are going to come after you. But I mean, what's it been like for you since this whole thing began?

00:42:42.680 So first, if the music starts, well, I have to wrap up.

00:42:46.840 You have music for me, Shadow?

00:42:48.120 No, no music.

00:42:49.660 And listen, I also want to just say I love Michelle.

00:42:52.340 I mean, kudos to her for coming. 0.99

00:42:54.460 She made her way from northern BC.

00:42:56.820 You know, I live in Ontario.

00:42:58.260 I'm like, I'm a total wimp.

00:43:00.300 I got six hours to drive in a car.

00:43:02.820 And my colleagues from BC and northern parts of the provinces all across the country take some hours.

00:43:10.240 So, you know, that that strain on her as well. Absolutely incredible. And I had got a chance to talk to her when I took her back to the hotel after the press conference.

00:43:19.360 I absolutely love her. And she's been through so much and she shows more courage than most people will ever show in a lifetime.

00:43:26.740 So I just I want to say that about Michelle. Listen, I you know, I know this is a difficult topic and that's why no one's talked about it for three or four years.

00:43:35.700 we haven't talked there's been radio silence on this topic but like i said once again people still

00:43:40.620 keep coming to me and i i've always felt that my job is to my constituents my job is to people

00:43:46.780 that actually uh you know like elected me and when people come and talk to me i have a duty to

00:43:54.380 represent them like i'm i'm the voice of the voiceless right so to speak you know i the my

00:43:59.600 my party's been fine as a matter of fact if i talk to michelle about her a member of parliament bob

00:44:04.940 Zimmer and Bob, they heard her had many conversations.

00:44:08.760 Bob Zimmer is an awesome MP and a great, a great guy.

00:44:12.820 You know, so the challenge has always been a number of us have had these

00:44:16.500 conversations. I'm sure they've even happened in the liberal party.

00:44:19.060 I'm not a hundred percent sure, but you know, if you're doing your job,

00:44:22.700 you're listening to everything, not the things that make you comfortable.

00:44:25.280 These things make you feel very uncomfortable. Right.

00:44:27.680 And so your, our job is to listen to the good, the bad, and the ugly.

00:44:30.180 It's not just the good things. We're not just showing up for, you know,

00:44:33.260 photo ops and all that stuff.

00:44:34.340 we should be actually talking to people so for the most part most of my like i like i said i

00:44:40.080 haven't had any colleagues push back on me is what i want to say and i've got a number of that have

00:44:44.700 committed to me personally there's been a couple that have gone public saying hey i'll be at the

00:44:49.360 allison inquiry that's all i could ask for i i appreciate that members of parliament are very

00:44:53.920 busy there are 2500 things as i said i can be in a meeting you know an eight-hour day and i'm not

00:45:00.840 and I meet people every half hour, but if I was, that would be 16 people. Every one of those people

00:45:05.740 will come in with a different issue that is important. It is the most important issue

00:45:09.680 to them. That's why they're coming to see me. So I think that, you know, not everyone's going

00:45:14.040 to champion these things, but I also realized that no one else was going to champion this issue.

00:45:18.720 And so I felt that it was important and I needed to do that. And like I said, I thought it was so

00:45:22.820 important that I was prepared to deal with it, whatever happened. That's a what-if scenario

00:45:27.580 that never happened. We've got a great leader that's understanding, and as I explained to him

00:45:32.360 why I thought this was important, he recognized it because he was talking to people himself.

00:45:36.300 So it's been good that way. Once again, where it hasn't happened, and this is what exactly you said,

00:45:42.460 there's been no conversations publicly about this stuff. So while these are happening randomly,

00:45:48.560 ad hoc, privately, in private offices, at the end of the day, three or four years ago,

00:45:53.580 no one wanted to have these conversations publicly and if you talk to sean and i'm sure he's told you

00:45:58.420 this he say most people were too afraid even to show up at the nci to actually have the conversation

00:46:04.300 for fear of of of being gas litter or some type of reprisal like you know what i'm saying like

00:46:09.920 they were they were concerned about that i think things have changed now because we've now been

00:46:14.300 three or four years later uh people are now feeling like we have not had any conversations

00:46:19.580 at all and quite frankly are we not going to have a recap and i you know i i look at uh lieutenant

00:46:26.060 colonel david redmond i don't know if he's been on your show uh he's a pandemic expert who has

00:46:30.900 worked with the canadian forces and you know one of the things he's always said uh great guy that

00:46:36.440 great guy to talk to as well you i'm going to give you a list of people no please do but he's

00:46:41.560 in alberta he was responsible for oh i know who you mean yeah he's responsible for emergency

00:46:46.640 preparation and pandemic response and every province of the country and including the country

00:46:51.720 had a response that had a procedure ready to go they just chose to ignore it and so they put the

00:46:58.100 people in charge of health in charge of this instead of putting other people in charge like

00:47:03.140 a like emergency management would which would deal with the economic school all those things

00:47:08.280 in there and so you you basically what you had is you had all these things that were prepared and

00:47:13.400 written that were just completely ignored and uh he talks about this and and as i said he was

00:47:19.000 responsible for emergency preparation in the in the province of alberta so a great guy to talk to

00:47:24.700 so when you when you sort of put all these things together and you realize that here we are three

00:47:29.860 four five years later we haven't had a conversation oh my goodness we need to have a conversation

00:47:34.860 and once again what i'm doing is like this skinny this this is a sliver of what i'm dealing with

00:47:39.960 And we could be talking about schools, lockdowns of science, MNRA technology, LIPO, all these things we could talk about.

00:47:46.560 Most people have no idea what they are, but that is not what we are talking about.

00:47:51.000 We're going to keep it very focused and we're going to talk to people and hopefully we'll encourage people to ask more questions.

00:47:57.060 That's what the hope is, right?

00:47:59.020 Because, you know, like my original question was in the United States, they have taken this from stage 1A, which is where we're at right now in this country.

00:48:08.080 And by the way, I'm not sure that I've thanked you for having the courage to stand up and do this yet.

00:48:13.960 So thank you for that, Dean. I appreciate that very much.

00:48:16.620 And there's many thousands of people across the country who feel that way as well.

00:48:20.700 The United States seems to be on, I don't know, chapter 10, page 684 when it comes to this stuff.

00:48:29.140 The Fauci diaries have come out.

00:48:31.300 We know exactly what he said privately as compared to what he said publicly.

00:48:35.600 Just yesterday, we had this story come out. Ex-Fauci advisor pleads guilty to plotting to conceal COVID-19 research records during pandemic from the Associated Press.

00:48:47.940 I mean, Dr. Charles Hoff was at your latest press conference last week, and this was a guy who was vilified by his own College of Physicians and Surgeons in British Columbia for spreading misinformation when all he was doing was trying to protect his patients.

00:49:06.740 I mean, when you've got, I don't even know how many, I think he said 36 or 37 people

00:49:11.540 who were definitely vaccine injured out of a practice of a thousand or 1100, that's a

00:49:16.100 very high percentage when it comes to safe and effective, right?

00:49:19.840 And they tried to take his license from him.

00:49:23.440 By the way, that clip, I pulled that clip off from the press conference last week and

00:49:30.080 I put it up on my social medias and thanks to the audience and the interest that you

00:49:34.920 guys are generating in this, that's been seen 700,000 times just from my channels. I mean,

00:49:41.480 and I'm sure there are other people, yeah, who put this out there on their channels and have

00:49:46.960 seen millions, tens of millions of hits from Dr. Hoff. And he's been on this show before and he's

00:49:53.500 been through a hell of a lot and yet he's still willing to stand up and talk about this. I mean,

00:49:57.720 he was gaslit by bonnie henry um and and by her infectious disease expert who said no no no this

00:50:05.680 is just a happenstance this is just a coincidence when you hear stuff like that are you hoping

00:50:09.900 that the allison inquiry does start that chain effect and gets canadians talking about this

00:50:15.740 because i have to tell you dean it seems miraculous that canada many people in this

00:50:21.420 country have been so immune to hearing this stuff when it's all over the place you know what i'm

00:50:27.320 saying? Well, you know, the fear is real, right? You talked about gaslighting not only the COVID

00:50:32.940 injured, vaccine injured, but doctors have been gaslit. We know for a fact the media has been

00:50:39.780 gaslit. We know politicians have been gaslit for even raising any of these questions. So when you

00:50:44.780 look at all these things, you know, Dr. Hoffman, and by the way, we have another doctor that's

00:50:50.220 going to be coming to chat with us during the inquiry. She lost her brother. Her brother was

00:50:55.600 a legislative aide. I mentioned him in my remarks, Scott Gorey. He worked for a member of parliament,

00:51:01.100 a couple of members of parliament up in Ottawa, and basically passed away the first part of July.

00:51:06.140 And she unfortunately had to bury him the middle of July of this year, so literally just within the

00:51:13.780 last three or four weeks. So when you think about that, I mean, some of the stories I've heard from

00:51:18.720 doctors were that, you know, they're very reluctant to even recognize a COVID vaccine injury because

00:51:24.760 frowned upon and you know the proof is what dr huff said you know i i thought that he he made the

00:51:30.200 point that we're trying to make you know it's so hard to fill he said that you know he sometimes

00:51:34.840 he's it requires nine pages and which he's not compensated for to fill out the form for these

00:51:42.500 individuals he talked about the 37 or whatever the number was he talked originally at the same

00:51:46.780 presser about the 14 people that he had filled out the the forms for and he'd sent them in and

00:51:52.240 they said no it's they're not injured it's like i have this is a community of 1100 for mostly first

00:51:58.780 nations right i've been their doctor for 20 30 years like 28 years he said i know these people

00:52:04.740 i know what what i know their health i know where they're at i know when they got the vaccine i know

00:52:09.440 when the reactions were and you think about that here's a doctor that's actually got some courage

00:52:14.620 and actually was prepared to stand up and he was vilified well what kind of chill do you think that

00:52:19.640 sense to everybody else. And once again, I'm asking a rhetorical question. We know exactly

00:52:23.540 what the chill is. No one wants to talk about if you're a vaccine injury, because you're going to

00:52:27.100 be vilified. If you're a doc, no one's actually going to want to talk about it there because you

00:52:32.220 could lose your license. Think about these docs that spent 12 years trying to get their, trying

00:52:36.820 to get, you know, all their education in and, and all the things they have to do and being forced

00:52:42.180 or losing their, losing their income. You know, he'll say it too. And I think he said it during

00:52:46.720 the press conference he had if it wasn't for one very strong lawyer and eight expert witnesses

00:52:51.960 that fought hard for him fought very hard uh he he may have lost his license and so

00:52:57.280 i think that there's so many things going on i could i know for a fact there are media people

00:53:02.380 there are mps there are senators or and these are various stages of vaccine injuries the ones we're

00:53:08.600 going to see and we're going to talk about in ottawa are very serious and there's all a variety

00:53:13.080 of levels. I'm not saying that every single person was injured. I don't think anyone said

00:53:17.140 that. What we're trying to say is that the amount of gaslighting that's gone on

00:53:21.180 has made even people in the press

00:53:24.920 not want to talk about it. MPs not want to talk about it. And so the list goes on

00:53:28.960 and on. I can't say this enough, Shadow. If I could accomplish one thing,

00:53:33.700 two things for sure, is that we could give people permission

00:53:36.860 to speak publicly about their injuries where they wouldn't have fear

00:53:41.060 being gaslit or maligned or whatever the case may be. How are we going to fix the problem

00:53:47.280 if I want to go to my doctor and my doctor says, I am not prepared to talk to you because I can't

00:53:53.760 write that up? Well, how do these people get healing? Like there's a very specific protocol.

00:53:58.840 There should be, you would think, if you're vaccine injured. But the reality is, is that

00:54:03.120 doctors fail to recognize it or acknowledge it. And so what ends up happening then is you

00:54:07.940 end up seriously never being able to move forward, right?

00:54:10.720 So unless we can have these conversations,

00:54:12.980 unless we have the ability to be able to speak about it freely

00:54:17.740 without being punished, then how can we actually move the bar

00:54:20.800 and have the healing?

00:54:21.920 Not only healing physically, but that healing mentally

00:54:24.780 that a lot of these people have had to endure

00:54:26.660 because of the abuse over the years.

00:54:28.720 Yeah, you're right.

00:54:29.240 And it's not just the abuse from, let's say, your boss

00:54:35.180 or the medical system or whatever it's i mean this whole thing caused divisions in families

00:54:41.580 that still exist today and then you know within communities i mean how how do we how do we ever

00:54:48.140 go ahead move forward and fix any of those things without identifying what it was that caused them

00:54:54.460 in the first place right absolutely no absolutely am i right dean in saying that canada is the only

00:55:00.620 country and maybe you don't know this but i'm hoping that you do is the only country that has

00:55:04.700 not had any kind of review as to its pandemic response so far yeah so you you wouldn't be far

00:55:11.300 off one of the things i i talked about in the first press conference is it's been over over 30

00:55:16.180 countries oecd g7 uh commonwealth you know the uk the us and there's a variety of other

00:55:23.700 countries that have looked at maybe various elements all at different stages maybe one looked

00:55:28.500 at you know uh the vaccine technology maybe one looked at lockdown whatever uh we're one of the

00:55:34.020 few outliers that have done absolutely zero, like nothing, nada. And you hit the nail on the head.

00:55:39.820 I mean, you imagine a G7 country that has chosen not to even have a bit of a debrief. I mean,

00:55:46.080 don't you think that's a responsibility of a government going through what was one of the

00:55:51.000 most, certainly the most significant pandemic of my lifetime in terms of disruption to businesses

00:55:57.440 and people being isolated, whatever the case may be, and not to even have a debrief and have

00:56:03.980 a conversation about doesn't that seem strange so what happens if something like this happens again

00:56:09.100 and there's been no learning from this time and really that should be on the government

00:56:13.660 and once again we hope that maybe the government would do something although i wouldn't put a lot

00:56:18.600 of credit in this government because you know they're when they did their their uh their debrief

00:56:23.580 on the emergencies act that that was a bit of a whitewash you know so you know i i wouldn't i

00:56:29.200 wouldn't trust them to do a great job on it but still at the end of the day do you not think that

00:56:33.740 we should be having some types of conversations to make sure the same mistakes and there are

00:56:38.140 actually lessons learned uh should unfortunately this ever happen again well justin trudeau

00:56:44.880 said it himself you know i mean i'm not sure what your thoughts on freedom convoy are would you care

00:56:50.540 to talk about that a bit well i believe that at the end of the day uh it was it was definitely a

00:56:57.080 peaceful protest i think that it moved the needle you know there was nothing happening and quite

00:57:02.980 frankly if you know they they want to discriminate so much on what was said or what was perceived

00:57:10.160 but anyone that spent any time down there at all would understand that this was completely peaceful

00:57:15.680 but you know what people are going to gaslight they i mean look what they did to people that

00:57:19.800 even supported them financially they froze their bank accounts well the blacklist came up

00:57:24.560 more more data coming out every day exactly yeah so i think that uh the the reality was that none

00:57:31.360 of this, all this would have been avoidable had Trudeau just sat down and had a conversation,

00:57:36.920 right? That's really what people wanted. And so at the end of the day, it goes a long way to listen

00:57:42.660 to people. People really, they underestimate how powerful it is just to be able to spend time

00:57:48.720 listening to people. I agree. And Trudeau, instead of doing that, went completely the other way and

00:57:54.080 vilified the entire, I mean, when we talk about vilify, he went on TV and he talked about these

00:57:59.000 people being uh like extremists i forget it's a fringe minority uh he actually went on quebec tv

00:58:08.100 in french and said these unvaccinated people like how do we tolerate them i'm paraphrasing here i'm

00:58:14.260 not exactly completely sure of what he said what the exact quote is but these were the kinds of

00:58:20.100 messages you know if you're unvaccinated you won't be able to take a train a plane or a bus i mean

00:58:25.880 that was during the election campaign of 2021, as I recall. And just for the prime minister,

00:58:32.640 the so-called leader of this country to be putting out messages, vilifying, in my opinion,

00:58:38.720 a kind of a large percentage of the people who live here and have been loyal to this country

00:58:43.820 for years and years and paying taxes for their entire lives, to hear the prime minister of this

00:58:48.580 country talk about them like that, it was an attack. And I think it's shameful behavior.

00:58:54.580 And maybe that's the reason that liberals, even today, even with a different leader, can't acknowledge what happened and definitely refuse to apologize.

00:59:06.080 I'm going to play this clip here from Mark Gerritsen, the genius liberal MP from Kingston and the Thousand Islands here.

00:59:13.240 And this is directed right at you, Dean.

00:59:15.800 Let's watch this, you guys.

00:59:17.260 so Pierre Polyev's MP from Niagara Dean Allison says that he's launching an inquiry into COVID

00:59:25.540 vaccine injuries but here's the question that Canadians should be asking is this an inquiry

00:59:31.360 or a political hearing because despite the name this isn't a public inquiry that's actually

00:59:37.080 established by parliament it's a privately led organized event by a member of parliament

00:59:41.880 Allison says he wants to hear from Canadians who believe that they were injured as a result of

00:59:46.500 taking a COVID vaccine. And let's be clear, anybody who suffered a serious vaccine injury

00:59:51.040 deserves compassion, support, and the opportunity to be heard. But if we're talking about an inquiry,

00:59:57.540 words matter. Inquiries are usually named after what they're investigating. This one's called

01:00:02.540 the Allison inquiry. He named it after himself. That just reeks of attention. He's calling you

01:00:08.320 an egomaniac here, Dean. He's before anything else. It also tells you something about how this

01:00:15.060 is being framed because the real issue isn't whether people should be allowed to tell their

01:00:19.580 stories. Of course they should. The issue is what is the event actually trying to accomplish? If the

01:00:25.360 goal is to gather evidence, where's the independent commissioner? Where's the formal process? Because

01:00:30.520 testimony matters, but testimony alone doesn't establish causation. And what I find most revealing

01:00:37.120 is that this isn't being presented just as a discussion about vaccine injuries. By his own

01:00:42.680 words. It's tied to the freedom convoy. It's tied to vaccine mandates. It's tied to the argument

01:00:47.680 that Canadians were silenced during COVID. So the real question isn't whether people deserve a

01:00:53.580 voice. The real question is whether this is about finding facts or reinforcing an established

01:00:59.980 political narrative. Those are two completely different things. And from my observation is

01:01:04.600 quite obvious that what Pierre Polyev and Dean Allison are trying to get out of this is more

01:01:08.980 about grievance politics and less about finding a way to materially improve anything uh if they

01:01:17.580 want to talk about making it political i think they should probably look in the mirror first

01:01:22.860 thing uh and and secondly you know like mark's never been he's the whip right for the liberal

01:01:27.780 party he's the guy that whips the vote am i correct yeah he's either the whip or the house

01:01:32.700 leader i'm not sure what he is these days he is a whip yeah he's a yeah this guy like what was

01:01:38.220 he does and he never ever rarely makes any sense i do love the memes of him as homer simpson too

01:01:45.480 by the way i'm not sure if you've seen those uh what's his point with this whole walking in the

01:01:51.120 two-minute video i i've watched it a couple of times today and i still can't figure out exactly

01:01:55.900 what what was he trying to say here well i think he's just really trying to discredit the injured

01:02:00.480 and basically call them illegitimate right you know at the end of the day i never named this

01:02:05.420 after myself. This has nothing to do with me. As a matter of fact, when I was talking with Sean

01:02:09.500 and Teresa, they said, yeah, normally an inquirer is named after the individual that's, is the

01:02:14.740 chair and you're the chair. So we're going to name it after you. I said, I don't want it named after

01:02:18.800 me. That's not what I want. I want to hear from people. He said, no, this is the way, you know,

01:02:23.020 the Roman own commission, whatever, you know, whatever the case is. Uh, yes, it's not an

01:02:26.760 official inquiry because we don't have the ability to compel people, but we have the, we have the

01:02:32.200 ability to hear people he'll hear people's stories right and so you know supposedly you hear the

01:02:38.280 language around him it's like maybe these people are injured maybe they aren't and maybe we

01:02:43.080 shouldn't take them seriously once again why i insisted when we set this up that we made sure

01:02:48.360 that these individuals were injured right they were signed up by a doc or somebody and and

01:02:53.160 remember how how difficult it is uh based on charles hoff you know to to get to sign off as

01:02:59.000 people as injured. And so, you know, I think that really, I've also tried to make it very

01:03:03.760 nonpartisan. Like I've, I've stated it right from the state, we're not, we're not going to assign

01:03:07.800 blame. If I wanted to be partisan, then what I would do is I'd say, we're going to find finies

01:03:12.320 and we're going to blame the government. I, I'm not, I'm not there for that kind of politics.

01:03:16.420 I'm there to actually listen to people, encourage the government to do better. And we all agree

01:03:22.020 the government could do better on this thing. And then share the spotlight, because I'm wondering

01:03:26.140 if some liberals have even ever heard about how difficult it is to access the program.

01:03:31.280 And when I say liberal, I mean, I wonder how many MPs actually understand how difficult

01:03:36.340 it is to access the Vaccine Injury Support Program.

01:03:39.480 So, you know, really, I understand.

01:03:42.060 And it doesn't take much if you look at some of the comments underneath his post to see

01:03:47.460 how seriously most people treat him with regards to that.

01:03:51.260 But if I wanted to be partisan, then I would say we're going to find, you know, we're going

01:03:55.060 to find facts we're gonna we're gonna you know we're gonna lay blame and i don't want to i want

01:03:58.840 to hear from the vaccine ninja i want to hear their stories i want to talk with them i don't

01:04:02.700 want to talk about politics i don't want to talk about anything i want to hear from them unless as

01:04:07.700 i said i would never name something like this after myself if you knew me you would know this

01:04:11.880 would be the last thing i'd ever do right um you sent emails to all of the liberals and all of the

01:04:18.160 ndp and the green elizabeth may i'm sure and of course to your uh caucus colleagues inviting them

01:04:24.260 to this just to show up just to watch because that's essentially what you're going to be doing

01:04:28.320 right you're going to be you're going to be sitting there and listening to these folks tell

01:04:31.600 their stories and i think there's 10 minutes for questions and whatnot we can go through that in

01:04:35.840 just a second but has anybody responded aside from those two conservative mps that you'd mentioned

01:04:40.820 yeah no i've had like a half a dozen conservatives respond to me uh and you know some are going to

01:04:46.920 come for a couple days some will come for maybe the whole thing i says you know i really for me

01:04:51.420 I just want them to get a taste of what has happened and validate these people's concerns, right?

01:04:57.580 You know, there's nothing more powerful than having your MP there and hear what you have to say.

01:05:03.100 Like I said, it's an incredibly busy time of year.

01:05:05.380 So, you know, if they can maybe catch it online, they can send some staff, you know,

01:05:09.120 any way that they would have a chance to maybe hear some of that stuff, it would be great.

01:05:13.600 And I think, like I said, I've had a number of people have already committed.

01:05:16.400 Only two people have committed publicly and they put something out on Facebook or on social media.

01:05:24.100 But I've had many more talk to me privately.

01:05:26.760 I haven't had any from the Liberals yet or the NDP or the Bloc.

01:05:30.660 But as I said, we will continue to invite.

01:05:32.960 And as I find out, as the vetting process happens and we end up with the people that are going to be testifying,

01:05:39.500 I'll also personally reach out to those individuals where their MPs are to actually invite them as well.

01:05:45.360 and just say, hey, by the way,

01:05:46.480 one of your constituents is going to be here in Ottawa.

01:05:48.520 It'd be great if you could show up on Monday

01:05:50.300 or Tuesday afternoon or whatever the case is.

01:05:52.800 So we'll also provide that opportunity as well.

01:05:55.360 Are your people still taking applications?

01:05:57.820 Yes, we are, as a matter of fact.

01:05:59.260 I mean, we're getting closer to the list,

01:06:01.680 but we still want to hear from people

01:06:05.540 because it's important.

01:06:08.100 So what is the format?

01:06:09.760 This is a four-day inquiry.

01:06:12.520 What is the format going to be?

01:06:14.020 I've heard that it's 20 minutes of the story and then 10 minutes of Q and A.

01:06:18.780 I'm not sure if there's going to be a panel or, or how's it going to be set up?

01:06:23.240 How's it going to work?

01:06:24.180 Yeah. So, you know, so, so like a, like a, a, a normal inquiry,

01:06:28.960 Sean will swear people in, right.

01:06:32.120 There's a swear an oath to indicate to us because Sean's been through this

01:06:36.620 process before.

01:06:38.000 We'll let him work through the testimony with the, with the,

01:06:41.720 You know, not all these people are, I thought Michelle did a phenomenal job at the press conference, but not everyone is public speaker, right?

01:06:48.720 So not everyone has that ability to try and get the story out.

01:06:51.560 And so it'll probably be much shorter than the 20 minutes.

01:06:55.400 It'll probably be five or 10 minutes, but then the rest of the time will be for MPs that get a chance to follow up with questions, hey?

01:07:02.220 Like, tell me about your life.

01:07:03.920 Tell me about what's different now, whatever the case may be.

01:07:06.360 So that's sort of the thought process right now that, you know, depending on what our final number is, whether people have 20 or 25 or 30 minutes, it'll be, you know, in that timeframe between, you know, 20 and 30 minutes where they get a chance to share their story, tell us what's going on, and then it gives MPs a chance to ask the questions.

01:07:23.960 And so I think that makes some sense. I think that takes the pressure off of them to try and carry it for such a long period of time.

01:07:31.140 And then, you know, what's important to the MPs to find out or clarify based on their opening remarks will give them a chance to ask those questions.

01:07:39.520 And so, as you pointed out, this is a very narrow inquiry and you're going to be talking to people who have been harmed by the vaccine,

01:07:46.640 but also family members who have lost somebody because of this. Am I correct?

01:07:52.660 Absolutely. We have a couple that will be coming and sharing their stories. In one case, I've got a doctor who's coming to share her brother's story, Scott Gorey. And then, of course, Dan Hartman will be sharing his story with Sean about Sean.

01:08:09.840 And I think that's, you know, I think that's important for people to understand.

01:08:13.080 These people have lost significant individuals in their life.

01:08:18.220 You know, I can't even imagine, you know, how you would be able to move forward.

01:08:23.860 And the pain is real.

01:08:25.520 And I think it's important that we hear from them and how it's affected and changed their lives.

01:08:30.520 You know, and I know in Dan's case, there's been a movie done.

01:08:35.000 I had a chance to watch that a few weeks ago.

01:08:37.920 and, you know, sharing the story.

01:08:40.600 And, you know, it's just very painful to watch.

01:08:42.820 And I think, you know, we owe it to them at the very least

01:08:46.560 to be able to have these conversations.

01:08:49.620 You know, you're a guy who's been in Parliament for 22 years.

01:08:53.700 Is there anybody who's been there longer that you know of?

01:08:56.440 Yeah, we've got a couple of colleagues on our side.

01:08:59.120 Scott Reed and Cheryl Gallant, both of them have been there since 2000.

01:09:02.280 We're elected in 2000.

01:09:03.660 and then there's a guy by the name of louis flamandone from uh quebec love this guy he was

01:09:09.880 a conservative and then he was a a block and he's now i think he's still a block and he's been there

01:09:14.940 since malruti like he's been there for 40 years i think he's been there for 42 years i think he got

01:09:19.440 elected back in 84 he got elected in 84 i think so and then we got a couple libs uh judy scrow

01:09:27.180 hetty fry that have been around for a while did you see that picture of hetty fry in vancouver a 0.99

01:09:32.140 couple of days ago she was at the pride parade there oh my god yeah she was uh she was dressed

01:09:36.560 for the occasion for sure but like i said there's a number of mps that have been there uh considerably

01:09:41.740 you know there's not a ton of them but there's certainly some that have been there a lot longer

01:09:46.420 for sure so having been there for 22 years it seems to me that you would carry a certain amount

01:09:51.440 of uh you know institutional authority let's just say you've been there for a very long time you know

01:09:58.520 the ropes you're a veteran any new mp coming into the conservative caucus or you know a liberal

01:10:05.360 look at you and go wow here's a guy who's been here for a long time i'm thinking that somebody

01:10:10.540 with that kind of like i said institutional seniority would have some influence on other

01:10:17.040 mps um just by saying hey look man would really like to see your face at this inquiry even if

01:10:23.360 it's only for a couple of hours you know without well like i said i you know people's schedules

01:10:28.860 are nuts right we're we're doing it at the like after a long weekend we did this we picked this

01:10:34.440 week based on my schedule based on the fact we have caucus the following week uh based on we're

01:10:40.000 trying to get a we wanted a committee room if we did it when we went back to work you know we would

01:10:44.900 have the complications of dealing with you know question period and committees committees use

01:10:50.060 committee rooms that's the crazy part of that right so you know we we did this based on what

01:10:54.180 was best for sean theresa and my schedule based on what we had going on we wanted to to give us

01:11:00.760 as much time to prepare because this these things take time to get ready the the amount of volunteer

01:11:06.300 work and the amount of work that sean and theresa have done has been like next level outstanding in

01:11:11.120 terms of their their volunteer time and so we appreciate that it's not always possible i've

01:11:16.260 talked to a couple MPs and said, Dean, I'd love to be there, but I've, you know, I've had these

01:11:20.500 plans booked for some time. Right. And so, as I said, we're, where we can, uh, we encourage people

01:11:26.340 to show up, send their staff, maybe catch something after the fact, but absolutely. I think, you know,

01:11:31.540 uh, people, people can make it, they'll try and make it. And if people want to avoid it,

01:11:36.060 they'll avoid it and they'll come up with an excuse. Right. So I think either way, uh, we had

01:11:39.940 to pick a time, right. And, uh, four days is a, is a, is a big commitment, you know, eight 30 to

01:11:45.220 five every day it's it's a it's a very major commitment given the fact that we're going to be

01:11:50.020 you know caucus the following week back to work the following week and uh we'll be back in the

01:11:54.480 house of commons you know for the for the fall session dean thank you so much for coming on

01:12:00.120 tonight taking the time and doing this allison inquiry.com you guys covet testimony.com for

01:12:04.840 more information are you going to be taking members of the public to observe this i i understand that

01:12:10.760 there's going to be a lot of independent media there and i'm still pondering myself whether or

01:12:14.480 that i should love love to have you man love to have you listen you're we're going to reserve the

01:12:19.440 right to the the people that are coming to testify and their families and so you know we have limited

01:12:24.560 space so it's you know it's it's not a public forum it's a committee room you know we probably

01:12:28.800 got a hundred a hundred just maybe a hundred 115 20 spots and so it's you know you started

01:12:35.660 inviting independent media regular i think regular media will show up as well probably not

01:12:40.260 not as as big a numbers as independent media and so i think that uh you know and there'll be staff

01:12:46.220 that'll be coming in and out like you know that that work there in the in the parliamentary

01:12:50.360 precinct so it's not open to the public per se but as i said these people these brave souls that

01:12:56.560 have got an opportunity to represent all the others that you know like i said a lot of great

01:13:01.280 amazing stories i don't mean great and that what's happened but worthy stories to tell

01:13:06.760 are going to be, you know, these 50 or so people will be carrying the weight of representing all

01:13:13.320 of them. And so if they have to bring support workers or family members, we should also give

01:13:18.220 them an opportunity as well to be able to do that. And of course, those those individuals are

01:13:23.020 welcome to stay for the week. Dean, we appreciate what you are doing and for having the courage to

01:13:27.940 do it. Thank you for coming on the show tonight. And we'll talk again, hopefully.

01:13:31.740 John, very nice meeting you through the show. And I look forward to chatting again with you sometime.

01:13:36.940 You bet, man.

01:13:37.600 Take it easy.

01:13:38.140 Have a good night.

01:13:38.940 Thanks, man.

01:13:39.720 There is Dean Allison, MP for Niagara West, the guy behind the Allison inquiry.

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01:17:16.080 actually it was last night donald trump on truth social said we've got a deal with canada i'm sorry

01:17:21.540 i can't do a trump impersonation i've tried can't do it he said the deal could involve the the new

01:17:28.160 or sorry, the old dead XL energy pipeline.

01:17:31.520 This is an oil pipeline

01:17:33.400 that was gonna take oil and gas

01:17:34.860 from Alberta down to Nebraska, I believe.

01:17:37.420 It got killed by Joe Biden in 2021.

01:17:40.440 He was talking about resurrecting it

01:17:42.160 in this Truth Social post last night.

01:17:45.060 The Canadian side is saying,

01:17:46.580 whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hold on,

01:17:48.580 there's lots of work left to do.

01:17:50.760 Trump put a 72-hour delay on the 50% tariffs

01:17:55.560 he was gonna slap on us today

01:17:57.940 last night at midnight so unless there is a deal signed and all of the wording and all the t's

01:18:05.660 crossed in the i's dotted then those tariffs are going to come into effect a lot of people

01:18:11.320 there's a lot of elbows up who are going what a great win for canada i mean dude do you even know

01:18:16.840 what you're talking about you even know what's in the package no nobody does we don't know yet

01:18:23.660 but draw carny he took it like are you freaking kidding me right now carny has been going around

01:18:30.100 look at this he's been going around to the premiers because he doesn't himself have the

01:18:35.160 power to do this he can't force the premiers to put u.s booze back on the shelves so he's going

01:18:41.820 to premiers like david eb and what's your name in new brunswick i forget now and people like

01:18:47.760 doug ford and quebec obviously saying look look look this is part of the deal here

01:18:52.100 and we really need you to put the booze back on the shelves

01:18:55.480 or Trump's going to, you know, pull the trigger on these tariffs.

01:18:58.180 So he's going around asking the premiers if they will do it.

01:19:04.140 Here's what Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston said.

01:19:07.920 In a press conference shortly after Mark Carney briefed the premiers

01:19:10.920 on the new deal reached with the U.S.,

01:19:12.940 Houston confirmed Carney made the ask pending a final deal.

01:19:17.240 Houston said it's been an irritant,

01:19:19.120 something that's really bothered the United States for so many reasons, whether Canadians

01:19:23.720 will actually buy it when it gets back on the shelves. That's a whole other discussion.

01:19:27.380 So they're proud of themselves, these idiots. They're proud of themselves that they've 1.00

01:19:32.560 irritated the United States. And that has nothing to do with anything. This is Trump flexing.

01:19:41.000 This is Trump trying to make Mark Carney look like a fool in front of the entire world, 0.96

01:19:46.620 especially in front of Canadians because he knew that Carney didn't have the power 0.92

01:19:53.200 to force premiers to put that U.S. booze back on the shelf so he's making him go hat in hand

01:19:59.240 to every single premier except for Danielle Smith and Scott Moe who never took the U.S.

01:20:04.700 booze off the shelves to begin with making him go hat in hand to all David Eby the U.S. booze

01:20:11.300 we'll never go back on our shelves.

01:20:13.500 Wob Canoe in Manitoba, same thing.

01:20:15.500 Doug Ford has not yet responded to any of this.

01:20:19.360 And that's only one thing.

01:20:21.700 What else did Canada give up, I wonder?

01:20:24.540 Because Jameson Greer, he's the U.S. trade representative,

01:20:27.220 he said that there's going to be full unfettered access

01:20:30.800 for U.S. farmers into the Canadian market.

01:20:33.940 Does that mean dairy also?

01:20:35.860 Does that mean that Carney said yes

01:20:38.480 to dismantling the dairy cartel?

01:20:41.300 Here is Trump in his 90-second clip.

01:20:48.420 Yeah, we had a very good conversation with the prime minister last night, and we've come

01:20:59.340 to a deal with Canada.

01:21:01.220 As you know, the 50% tariffs across the board were going on against Canada today.

01:21:07.360 And they called yesterday and they gave us the points that we had to have.

01:21:10.920 fair deal for both.

01:21:13.080 The tariffs will be non-existent for our farmers.

01:21:16.260 Our farmers were paying tremendous tariffs into Canada, and those tariffs are going to

01:21:21.980 be totally viscerated, down to zero.

01:21:23.800 Is the U.S. going to lower tariffs on Canadian auto-tour?

01:21:28.380 We're doing certain things.

01:21:29.380 We've got to give something, and we're doing certain things.

01:21:32.200 We're paying a high number.

01:21:33.320 We're reducing it a little bit.

01:21:35.320 It's good for everybody.

01:21:36.820 But our farmers are going to be thrilled.

01:21:38.220 Our manufacturers are going to be thrilled.

01:21:40.880 And basically, we have no tariffs going into Canada anymore.

01:21:44.160 Canada was charging us tremendous tariffs.

01:21:46.520 We no longer have any tariffs.

01:21:48.180 And what I was able to do is we put, as you know, under the new tariff — I guess you'd

01:21:54.820 call it the new tariff schedules that we came out with — they were going to get a 50 percent

01:21:59.640 tariff on everything starting today.

01:22:02.940 And we've held it back three days.

01:22:04.580 It's all subject to finalization of documents.

01:22:07.540 subject to the finalization of documents we have a deal with canada and i think it's a very good

01:22:12.420 deal for both both parties it's great for our farmers our farmers will no longer be held up

01:22:17.540 because they were being hurt very badly by canada yeah

01:22:24.340 what what hold on just wait wait wait wait that's better what does this mean that mark carney has

01:22:32.580 has given up complete and total unfettered access

01:22:35.820 to the Canadian market to everything American?

01:22:38.660 Because that's the way Donald Trump

01:22:40.080 made it sound just there.

01:22:44.160 He just made Canada, if this is true,

01:22:47.360 he just made Canada the 51st state.

01:22:50.500 So how does he come back from this

01:22:52.980 with all the elbows up people?

01:22:55.800 I'm sure they'll find a way to spin it.

01:22:58.620 Oh, Mark Carney, you're a Superman.

01:23:00.940 I can't even believe it.

01:23:01.800 You stood up to Donald Trump and you gave it to him right in the nose.

01:23:05.340 I mean, seriously, these people have no idea.

01:23:09.060 And I still don't believe they actually exist like they're real.

01:23:13.560 Because I thought that every Canadian knew that against the United States in any kind of war, whether it's economic or military, whatever, Canada would never stand a chance.

01:23:26.800 Never.

01:23:27.100 it's it's it's been rhetoric for 18 months we've been listening to the elbows up and mark carney

01:23:35.220 tear donald trump down worldwide domestically we've been hearing the provinces talk about

01:23:40.960 how bad donald trump is especially doug ford going on us tv but

01:23:45.300 wab canoe's been doing it too and so is david eby and all the atlantic premiers in quebec

01:23:51.700 we're not going to capitulate well look you have no choice and it seems like according to what we

01:24:00.640 know now and we could be hearing more we will be hearing more probably tomorrow friday definitely

01:24:06.960 um exactly what the finer points of this deal is but trump was this is how you know trump was

01:24:16.340 very anxious to announce this the other night or last night late last night where the canadians

01:24:21.320 have been saying, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So what does that tell you right there?

01:24:27.920 It tells you that the liberals are trying to find the time here, take the time to spin this into

01:24:33.820 something positive. I have no idea how they're going to be able to do that. But you want to know

01:24:38.580 what? I don't believe that this whole Canada-US thing has really been about a trade deal between

01:24:46.420 Canada and the U.S. anyway. It's been something more. It's been Donald Trump replacing the British

01:24:55.480 imperial system with the American system. The American system is coming back. I'm not sure if

01:25:00.200 you guys watch Promethean Action. I mentioned this to Tiana Truthseeker the other night,

01:25:05.180 and she said, yeah, I agree with some of their stuff, and I do too. Susan Kokinda especially

01:25:10.720 has been watching this stuff happen for the past 50 years.

01:25:15.140 She sees things that we just don't see.

01:25:20.060 So what is Canada?

01:25:21.800 I mean, people sit back and say,

01:25:25.100 well, it's a country, obviously.

01:25:28.360 No.

01:25:29.680 Canada's part of the Commonwealth.

01:25:32.440 Canada has a king.

01:25:35.620 We are answerable to a king.

01:25:37.900 Whether you believe that or not, doesn't matter.

01:25:40.720 Because Canada is answerable to King Charles through the governor general.

01:25:47.660 Now there's constitution, sorry, there's convention that says, well, it's a ceremonial thing.

01:25:54.000 But the law dictates that King Charles is the king of Canada.

01:26:01.300 And he can tell the prime minister what to do.

01:26:03.580 He can fire a prime minister if he so chooses.

01:26:07.760 And who does Charles work for?

01:26:10.720 Does he work for the bankers in the city of London?

01:26:18.340 These are the guys, these shadowy figures that have been driving all of this nonsense for the past, what, six or seven years now.

01:26:26.900 It's been longer, we know that, but it's become really obvious since COVID.

01:26:31.340 Exactly what these people have been doing.

01:26:33.160 This is my opinion, of course.

01:26:34.500 You guys may differ.

01:26:35.400 And there are extenuating things that are going on around it.

01:26:40.160 But ultimately, what we've got here is a war between financial systems and between geopolitics and geo-industry.

01:26:53.820 That's a new expression, by the way.

01:26:57.220 And it appears as though Trump is winning.

01:27:00.500 Because we've talked about Canada before being a vassal state.

01:27:03.440 It's not a sovereign country.

01:27:04.800 It can't be a sovereign country when it cannot feed, energize, or defend itself.

01:27:09.020 Canada cannot do any of those things.

01:27:12.760 We could not fight off the Chinese, the Russians, the Americans, or anybody else for that matter, 0.99

01:27:19.400 if they wanted to come and take the country. 0.93

01:27:21.980 Canada could not defend itself.

01:27:24.040 Because we haven't got a dedicated east-west pipeline in this country that doesn't go through the United States.

01:27:30.800 We cannot keep our people warm in the wintertime.

01:27:34.880 We have to import oil, like in the East, the Atlantic provinces, Quebec and Ontario, they import oil, believe it or not, from the United States, and they also import it from the Middle East.

01:27:46.280 And we can't feed ourselves either.

01:27:49.120 We could, but we can't.

01:27:51.940 That makes us a vassal state.

01:27:54.680 First to the UK, then to the United States, through the city of London, but now things are changing.

01:28:01.340 So this Promethean Action update was released today, and I want you guys to pay close attention to what Susan Kokinda says here.

01:28:12.580 Watch.

01:28:13.600 President Trump announced a three-day pause in a war, and it wasn't about Iran.

01:28:18.840 Here's what he posted.

01:28:19.720 I have paused the 50% tariffs against Canada that were scheduled to kick in tomorrow morning for a three-day period,

01:28:26.480 based on the fact that Canada and the United States,

01:28:30.100 subject to the finalization documents, have a deal.

01:28:33.700 The great Keystone XL pipeline long ago killed by sleepy Joe Biden

01:28:37.520 may be awoken from the grave.

01:28:39.560 Now, the media will focus on the Keystone pipeline aspect of this

01:28:43.420 and whatever else is evolving from the ongoing USMCA trade negotiations.

01:28:49.100 But there is something much bigger going on.

01:28:51.580 And it ranges from what White House advisor Peter Navarro

01:28:55.280 accused Canada of being one of the countries engaged in a basically modern form of smuggling

01:29:01.780 to a Canadian member of parliament who's organizing a petition to throw the U.S. ambassador to Canada

01:29:08.040 out of the country. This isn't a trade dispute. This is a war, and it's been going on a lot longer

01:29:14.520 than the conflict with Iran. I'm Susan Kokinda, and I've tracked how the British Empire rebrands

01:29:20.360 itself in order to keep up the war against American sovereignty. That's what we follow

01:29:25.820 here at Promethean Action, and if that's a fight you want to be in on, hit those like,

01:29:30.520 share, and subscribe buttons. Here's what I'm going to cover today. One, the outlaw ledger,

01:29:36.660 that is, what Canada actually does versus what it says it does. Two, how the speeches of two

01:29:43.380 cabinet officers, one American and one Canadian, highlight the real battle lines. And three,

01:29:49.360 who's behind the recall petition and the larger strategy. So last week, Canada's Interior Minister

01:29:56.520 Melanie Jolie was in London at Chatham House selling Canada to the assembled audience as a

01:30:03.620 quote, stable, grown-up, reliable partner, as opposed to the United States, of course.

01:30:10.380 But here is how that grown-up partner operates. Four days ago, the White House put out a report

01:30:16.520 called the Great Transshipment Scam.

01:30:19.840 And here's what the president's trade advisor,

01:30:22.500 Peter Navarro, said about it.

01:30:23.900 But what happened beginning immediately in 2018

01:30:28.020 is that China strategically began to develop methods

01:30:33.240 of what's called transshipping.

01:30:36.180 It's basically a modern form of smuggling.

01:30:38.680 As Navarro was describing how the Chinese repackaged their goods

01:30:42.740 into products that are produced in countries with lower tariffs,

01:30:46.520 in order to, quote, smuggle them in, the broadcast was showing just what countries are involved,

01:30:53.320 and Canada is near the top of the list. But that's not the only list that Canada is on.

01:30:59.140 When the administration escalated its tariff strategy back in July, it targeted countries

01:31:05.480 which failed to enforce measures banning goods produced by forced or slave labor.

01:31:12.420 Canada is on the short list of six countries which fail to enforce their own laws.

01:31:18.220 Then there are the dirty money flows, which are the hallmark of the empire's deregulated

01:31:23.200 financial system.

01:31:24.840 They have a name for the Canadian side of it.

01:31:27.320 It's called snow washing.

01:31:30.260 Transparency International Canada put the problem bluntly, quote,

01:31:34.600 there are more rigorous checks to obtain a library card than there are to set up a shell

01:31:40.140 company.

01:31:40.600 And they said this leaves Canada, in their words, with, quote, some of the weakest corporate

01:31:45.880 transparency laws in the world. And the money that gets washed is not petty cash. British

01:31:52.260 Columbia's Cullen Commission, a full public inquiry whose final report was released in June 2022,

01:32:00.580 documented what investigators called the Vancouver model, cartel and triad money from the Sinaloa

01:32:07.780 and CGNG cartels and Chinese triads laundered through casinos, luxury cars, and real estate.

01:32:15.840 In B.C. real estate alone, the estimates ran from $800 million to over $5 billion a year.

01:32:22.340 Now, if that reminds you of how the city of London and its offshore Caribbean islands

01:32:27.680 house drug cartel and terrorist money, including the IRGC, it should. That is the empire's business

01:32:36.000 model. So that's just part of the rap sheet on Canada, the stable, reliable, grown-up partner

01:32:43.120 in Minister Joe Lee's words. So the USMCA fight, the trade negotiations that everyone is watching,

01:32:50.420 that's one flank. Canada doesn't cheat on trade because of sloppy enforcement. It uses trade to

01:32:57.220 erode American economic sovereignty by design. That isn't a trading partner, that's an outlaw

01:33:03.740 with a flag staple to it. Now, if you want to track the British Empire's long war against

01:33:09.800 American sovereignty before it hits the headlines, subscribe to Promethean Action's

01:33:14.740 free newsletter. The link is in the description. Because none of this is really about tariffs or

01:33:20.740 forced labor lists. It's about two different systems. Now, watch when you put two speeches

01:33:27.400 side by side. One happened in Midland, Texas, by our energy secretary in front of oil and gas

01:33:34.820 workers, and the other by Secretary Jolie again at Chatham House in London, in front of Britain's

01:33:43.120 premier foreign policy establishment. Same subject, energy, and they couldn't be farther apart.

01:33:50.340 Here's what Chris Wright, the U.S. energy secretary, said.

01:33:53.160 Think about that. Human life expectancy at birth globally was 30 years, 20,000 years ago.

01:34:01.040 It was 30 years, 200 years ago. The most transformative force ever to visit human

01:34:09.980 civilization, well, besides family and faith and morality and those things that power our inners,

01:34:16.000 But the most transformative thing to the physical condition of humans ever is oil and natural gas.

01:34:24.140 Today, life expectancy is over 70 years.

01:34:27.900 All of that rise happened with the rise of the oil and gas industry.

01:34:33.140 Let that really sink in.

01:34:35.020 Wright isn't talking about barrels or pipelines.

01:34:38.100 He's talking about why your grandmother's grandmother died at 30 and you didn't.

01:34:42.680 that's energy as a civilization, not a commodity. And he didn't stop at history. He pointed to a

01:34:50.180 new iron ore mine opening in Minnesota, the first one in 50 years, and a steel plant going up nearby

01:34:56.420 that he called the largest in the world. Re-industrialization, this is the core of

01:35:01.240 the president's economic policy, and it depends on modern sources of energy. Then he made the

01:35:07.320 moral point. Quote, a billion people live these awesome lives that we have. Seven billion people

01:35:15.120 want to live the awesome lives that we have here. Now go to London, where Melanie Jolie revealed

01:35:22.640 Canada's new strategy. Of course, she wasn't freelancing. She was channeling Mark Carney's

01:35:28.880 line about how Canada is leading the middle powers in a new alliance against the economic

01:35:34.800 hegemons, namely the United States and China.

01:35:38.380 And so industrial policy is the new geopolitics.

01:35:43.200 We've entered an era of geo-industrialization where doing business together is no longer

01:35:50.800 through only private markets.

01:35:53.120 It is also very much through government to government decisions, where decisions are

01:36:00.140 linked to geopolitical choices.

01:36:02.980 catch that new phrase, geo-industrialization. Now, what is the significance of that? It's the

01:36:09.900 extension into economics of the British Empire's policy of geopolitics. In other words, run your

01:36:17.600 foreign policy by treating nations as dispensable pawns on a chessboard, destroying them through

01:36:24.360 wars or color revolutions, whatever is needed to keep the empire in control. Jolie says that

01:36:32.520 geo-industrialization is Canada's economic policy, and especially its energy policy.

01:36:39.020 And it's based on the same foundation. Use economics, or in this case, energy, as a weapon

01:36:45.500 in the fight to maintain globalism in its new Mark Carney-led 2.0 form. Now, Jolie comes by her

01:36:53.240 imperial views honestly. Regular viewers of Promethean Action are not going to be surprised

01:36:58.980 to find out that she studied at Oxford on a British government scholarship. So her speech

01:37:04.900 at Chatham House was kind of a homecoming. Contrast her speech to Secretary Wright. He's

01:37:11.020 talking about energy as a critical element in advancing civilization and creating a better

01:37:16.980 life potentially for the 8 billion people on this planet. Wright wants to build civilization.

01:37:23.980 Jolie wants to manage the empire's control.

01:37:27.000 One produces the other positions.

01:37:30.040 And that is what is really behind the trade disputes between the United States and Canada.

01:37:36.120 This is not just one nation maneuvering for a more favorable trade deal for the benefit of its people.

01:37:43.360 This is geopolitics in industrial terms.

01:37:47.240 Which is why U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra is not very popular in Canada.

01:37:52.980 Now, I watched Hoekstra up close when he was chairman of the Michigan Republican Party,

01:37:57.200 and it was clear when President Trump chose him that he wanted a bulldog for ambassador,

01:38:03.340 someone who wouldn't back down in this war.

01:38:06.540 The empire has figured that out.

01:38:09.040 And so this summer, a campaign began to get rid of him.

01:38:12.580 More than 200,000 Canadians have now signed a formal petition to the House of Commons

01:38:17.580 demanding their government declare Pete Hoekstra persona non grata.

01:38:22.400 the diplomatic term for throwing an ambassador out of the country.

01:38:27.020 So who started this?

01:38:28.900 Elizabeth May, a leader of Canada's Green Party.

01:38:33.220 She was born in Connecticut to a British father who hated living in the United States.

01:38:38.260 So the family left for Canada and she renounced her American citizenship altogether.

01:38:43.500 She spent the next four decades as a professional environmental activist,

01:38:47.740 running the Sierra Club of Canada and campaigning against the oil, the gas, and the industry

01:38:53.680 that built the modern world before becoming leader of Green Party. Now, the petition can't

01:38:59.880 actually expel anyone. It forces the government to file a written response. But the Canadian

01:39:05.600 government has been silent so far. And read what the petition actually objects to. It attacks

01:39:12.480 hoaxed for normalizing talk of Canada as a 51st state and for the fact that officials from the

01:39:19.480 movement for Alberta's independence met with the U.S. State Department three times over the past

01:39:25.660 year. Think about what that tells you. The province the establishment is most afraid of losing is

01:39:31.640 Alberta, the one that produces the energy. The one, by the way, where the Keystone Pipeline

01:39:37.640 originates. Which brings us to a question that the petition can't answer. If Canada is so eager to

01:39:44.440 remove our representative from their country, what exactly is their representative doing here?

01:39:52.440 Let's go back to what Melanie Jolie is up to on this side of the pond. Here's what she told 0.83

01:39:59.800 Chatham how she is doing. I was in Boston last week, meeting much more with the Democrats,

01:40:05.480 but also I'll be heading to many different cities, Chicago, going to Texas, Florida in the next few weeks.

01:40:16.440 So, and understanding also what's the position of different lawmakers within states, but also at the federal level.

01:40:25.420 So a cabinet minister of a foreign government is moving through American cities in the middle of a trade war,

01:40:31.360 sitting down with the political opposition taking inventory of which of our own in Congress and our

01:40:38.820 own state houses might take Canada's side against our own elected government. So this isn't just

01:40:47.120 about the USMCA or tariffs. Canada doesn't cheat on trade because of sloppy enforcement. It uses

01:40:54.260 trade to erode American economic sovereignty and it's not an accident, it's the design. This is a

01:41:00.620 fight between two systems, one outlined by Chris Wright to build the modern world for Americans

01:41:06.400 and for the 7 billion people who need energy, who aspire to have what we have, and the one

01:41:13.820 outlined by Jolie, deploying the empire's new geo-industrial strategy, while a Green Party

01:41:21.340 leader tries to remove the American ambassador who won't back down. That's the battle writ large,

01:41:26.960 And it's the difference between these two countries.

01:41:30.100 One is a sovereign republic.

01:41:31.980 The other is an imperial outpost.

01:41:34.360 And the man running it is the empire's own central banker.

01:41:41.500 Mark Carney is the new Klaus Schwab.

01:41:44.680 That's why he's been getting all this outsized press from the world's left-wing corporate media since he became prime minister.

01:41:51.720 And especially since that ridiculous, nonsensical speech that he gave at the World Economic Forum in Davos back in January.

01:42:01.540 And then the very next day, Trump came up, lit him up.

01:42:05.920 Be careful what you say, Mark.

01:42:08.120 Canada lives because of the U.S., he said. 0.99

01:42:11.320 And he was right. 0.90

01:42:13.520 He was bang on.

01:42:15.340 And now look what's happened.

01:42:16.500 by all accounts at least so far and we haven't got all the details canada has capitulated fully

01:42:24.400 to the united states demands and that's not just on trade by the way that also is uh to do with

01:42:31.860 the censorship laws that canada has passed these past few years apparently c11 the online streaming

01:42:37.760 act is going to be repealed i don't know that for sure but i have been hearing some talk about it

01:42:43.520 Now, getting back to the politics in Canada and the politics in the United States, well, of course, Melanie Jolie is running around the United States speaking with Democrat governors, Democrat mayors of large cities, trying to get them aligned against President Trump so that Canada would have a better bargaining position.

01:43:02.920 it's not working trump doesn't care and all of the left-wing corporate media is going to tell

01:43:09.620 you he's a lame duck president he's going to lose the midterms he's going to lose the house he's

01:43:14.160 going to lose the senate and then he'll be sitting there on his own so what what we do know in that

01:43:20.620 case is that the democrats still won't be able to do anything they could block some of the stuff

01:43:26.040 that Trump tries to do.

01:43:27.860 But ultimately, he is still in control of the tariffs.

01:43:33.400 That's the way their system works.

01:43:36.680 So countries like Canada and others within the cabal

01:43:40.560 or controlled by the cabal can sit back and say,

01:43:43.420 we're going to wait it out. 0.96

01:43:44.720 We're going to wait it out until Trump dies

01:43:46.660 or he's no longer president.

01:43:47.980 And then we'll come up with a better deal.

01:43:49.540 Well, who's to say that you're going to get a better deal

01:43:51.980 with somebody like J.D. Vance?

01:43:56.040 maybe, but I believe that J.D. Vance is fully in another cabal, but that's another story for

01:44:04.420 another show. Let's also look at the political alignment between the crazy zealots in the

01:44:11.180 Liberal Party. Climate change, climate change. Julie DeBruson is the new environment minister

01:44:17.140 in Canada. She's nuts, in my opinion. I believe she's crazy. She believes that the world is going 1.00

01:44:24.100 to burn to a cinder within six months or a year unless we tax you more. And they're still doing

01:44:30.420 these ridiculous clean energy deals like Carney announced in Newfoundland the other day. It's going

01:44:34.580 to do nothing. And it won't even take effect until 2035. Doesn't that sound like the Democrats in the

01:44:43.180 United States? But the worst thing is that the Democrats in the United States have got this

01:44:49.600 this wing that's taking over the party called the democratic socialists really all they are

01:44:55.340 is communists and now they're starting to say it out loud because they've got that red green

01:45:01.160 alliance going on down there and it happens up here as well red green alliance meaning palestinians

01:45:07.080 and communists we'll wait and see how that goes if it plays out the way they want it to and i

01:45:15.540 certainly hope it doesn't, because if it does, we're all in big trouble. These are the two

01:45:21.420 political movements that need to be defeated by common sense. Common sense. So if you're one of

01:45:28.360 these people that knows all of the stuff that we talk about all the time and has known for many,

01:45:33.740 many, many years, but has stayed silent because you don't feel the time is right to talk about it

01:45:39.380 or nobody wants to talk about it, or my family is going to disown me. Look, man, it's time.

01:45:45.500 Because the more of us that stand up and start calling out the absolute absurdity,

01:45:50.680 the incredible nonsense of these zealots, the average person, Normie, is going to sit back

01:46:00.440 and go, you know what? You're right. This person is crazy. I mean, a man can't be a woman. It's

01:46:05.700 not and and what did dean allison say at the very beginning of the show tonight that i know many of

01:46:11.560 you missed you should go back and watch he said that there are tampon dispensers in the men's

01:46:20.260 restrooms on parliament hill i'm gonna leave it at that tonight guys but tomorrow night another

01:46:28.660 special guest will be out here again on all the socials at the regular time eight o'clock central

01:46:32.760 nine o'clock eastern right blend the former patriot smoothie john villeneuve who has undergone

01:46:39.280 heart surgery since the last time we had him on the show last time we spoke he's so much healthier

01:46:45.600 now than he was just a few short months ago john was covering the helen gruce sentencing the other

01:46:52.800 day so we're going to talk about that tomorrow night and basically all of the craziness that's

01:46:57.920 been going on for the last little while he's always a great guy to have on the show john

01:47:01.860 Villanueva is going to join the show tomorrow night here on YouTube and on Facebook and on X

01:47:09.140 and on Telegram, shadowdavis.com, of course. Hello, all access Nighthawks. I miss you guys.

01:47:15.680 I haven't seen you in a while. Couldn't do a show last night because my internet was out for some

01:47:20.720 reason. I thought the government got me, but it was back this morning. And Rumble, of course,

01:47:25.940 will be on all those channels tomorrow night at eight o'clock central. That's it for tonight,

01:47:29.700 you guys. I love you all. I appreciate you all. And I thank you for being here. Do not forget

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The Shadoe Davis Show - August 20, 2026

August 19th⧸2026- Guest： MP Dean Allison of The Allison Inquiry

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