00:09:18.940So the four groups that she identified was people trying to change Canada the right way.
00:09:23.980And I think she would include me in that group.
00:09:26.260There was a group that thinks Canada can be saved with the PPC, but don't think Max is the leader.
00:09:31.720So that was the second group that she identified.
00:09:34.060The third one would have been the rhetoric group, the one that she called racist.
00:09:37.500And we'll get into that in a little bit because I think we need to kind of define what racist means in that context.
00:09:42.680And the last group that she identified was what she would call the cultists, the ones that are very, very pro-max no matter what.
00:09:49.440And, again, I think we'll get into the definition of cultists maybe a little bit in order to be fair to that group.
00:09:55.600But I would also identify there's a fifth one that she didn't mention.
00:09:59.400and that would be the ones that would include her uh that go into the ppc and pose as ppc and
00:10:05.120infiltrate it's not a bad thing i'm not going to highlight that as a bad thing but that would be0.99
00:10:09.260the fifth group if we're going to be fair to uh ppc because the only reason she did that is because
00:10:15.700max blocked her on x right and she was just asking questions and and basically you know and you know
00:10:21.320this because you're the same as i am when it comes to this in the mindset we're asking questions we
00:10:25.540just want answers to. That's all. We're not pointing fingers or accusing anybody of anything.
00:10:30.540And we report what we identify. And when you ask a question of a politician and he turns around and
00:10:38.180blocks you, and I'm not saying that Max did it personally, because I'm certain that he's got
00:10:42.600somebody running his social media accounts, and maybe it was that person who did it. I don't know.
00:10:46.920But shouldn't you be accountable and answer those questions? I mean, that's, after all,
00:10:51.480what we are after is the information we want the truth we want the clarity from people who purport
00:10:57.580to represent us you're not wrong and one of the first things i did when i joined the ppc as a
00:11:03.180candidate is i removed all blocks all of them um and believe me that was an interesting week after
00:11:08.960i did that when people realized they were no longer blocked anymore and you had lots of
00:11:13.120conversations but you're not wrong but let's do remember the particular questions being asked were0.99
00:11:18.760fair questions and i actually kind of want to back up tiana here she actually has a right to1.00
00:11:23.180infiltrate and i love the fact that she does it because she doesn't do it to just the ppc she
00:11:26.980does it to all of them okay so she's doing this to all of them and and that's really the value that
00:11:31.620she has is she can try and in her way get truthful information you know the stuff that people won't
00:11:36.740put public because we all polish ourselves up on social media but maybe we're not all so great
00:11:41.460when it comes to the real people so i don't mind her doing that well she's an equal opportunity
00:11:46.540infiltrator yes absolutely fair enough right yeah and she does call out all parties and and this is
00:11:52.440why i i don't mind what she's doing even when she's not fully correct all the time because as
00:11:58.020long as she's punching up she's got my support and max is punching up for her and the ppc is
00:12:03.480punching up so she's doing the right thing where i don't like is when people punch down or they
00:12:08.960punch the ones that are standing shoulder to shoulder with them i like punching up and that's
00:12:13.400the direction we should be going and unfortunately for her she's received you know people punching
00:12:17.640down to her and and i don't like that the blocking and the answering question is when we kind of
00:12:22.680finish up on that max has answered those questions multiple times the specific ones that even she
00:12:27.840posed and her opposed it's not that he doesn't want to answer her questions he's answered those
00:12:33.740questions and you're not wrong it isn't really max who runs the social media he does have a team
00:12:38.380as a social media team because as you can imagine it's very verbose his his messaging
00:12:44.300and we can get into things like project cactus where there is a lot of effort to actually target
00:12:49.140macs and bots and those kind of things it is that's something you weren't even aware of until
00:12:54.060a couple of days i didn't know about cactus no i just learned about that last couple a week or so
00:12:58.540and there's people right now watching this going project cactus what's that yeah we can we can get
00:13:03.920into that for sure and i've got my own theories on that but anyway please continue yeah so i think
00:13:09.280max has answered those questions multiple times he's been on my show multiple podcasts the only
00:13:14.060trouble is sometimes it's it's not spread well enough and the message and answers don't get out
00:13:19.860and tell you on him she she may not have had the answer she may not know the answer so she's
00:13:23.780genuinely asking them and i'm not going to defend the social media blocking because i don't think
00:13:28.140that's a good idea i think that's a bad look especially if you intend to win the seat you're
00:13:32.000going to have to get used to that because you have to remove those blocks uh Ezra Levant was
00:13:35.640successful at a lawsuit that set that precedence so you kind of have to get ready and that's why
00:13:40.480I took all mine off because I don't want to learn the lesson after a win how to deal with that I
00:13:46.340kind of want to learn that now while I have some extra time for that so I do agree that maybe
00:13:51.060blocking is not a good idea but the questions have been asked and answered multiple times over
00:13:56.540the years well you know i've i've had max on before and i i didn't really hit him with some
00:14:02.080you know serious hard questions i just wanted to get his positions out there because i believe
00:14:06.060the last time he was on even the two or three times he's been on it's always been during an
00:14:10.040election period and you just want to give the guy a chance to get his platform out there and why
00:14:15.040people should vote and whatnot but let's throw this up on the screen this renee devries fellow
00:14:19.560who is a candidate in Ontario in Stouffville he's a 23 year resident of Stouffville Ontario
00:14:26.980born raised educated in the Netherlands blah blah blah blah blah what his profile on the PPC page
00:14:32.580here says is that he's currently the senior vice president of a large multidisciplinary
00:14:37.220international engineering firm and his extensive experience in business all right so let's throw
00:14:42.740that off the screen and find out because they neglect to mention it on the PPC page we have
00:14:48.260to go to his LinkedIn to find out that he's a senior vice president of Arcadis Canada. Arcadis
00:14:53.160Canada is linked and joined the World Economic Forum in 2015. They have been members of the WEF
00:15:01.360for 10 years now. And I don't know what the answer to that is. I mean, we sit here and we talk and we
00:15:06.860bitch and moan about the World Economic Forum and net zero and all of the ridiculous ideas that come0.98
00:15:13.460out of there and the incredible hypocrisy of these elitists uh the people who fly there in0.99
00:15:19.380their private planes while telling us that we shouldn't drive our car to the store to get
00:15:23.160groceries so so how do we square that well that's a fun one because uh there's two things there first
00:15:30.240i don't like the idea of not displaying the name but i think if you go to my bio i don't list any
00:15:35.140names of the previous employers that i had either but it's nothing either here nor there that i just
00:15:40.900started looking into that the last few days when i learned about that as well he is the senior vice
00:15:44.760president of a really old company that has a lot of business around the world and the wef as you
00:15:50.380and i both know they are everywhere they are everywhere it's if you are a bank of a royal
00:15:56.240bank customer technically you're got one one degree away because they are also listed it's
00:16:01.740very hard to get any multinational that isn't infiltrated or touched by the wef and this is
00:16:07.400Being infiltrated is one thing, but when you go ahead and you join them of your own free will, that's a whole other thing.
00:16:14.540There's an article out there that is a pay-per-view, and I didn't want to throw it up on the screen, and I certainly wasn't going to subscribe for one article to this thing.
00:16:23.320But it said they joined them happily, and there was a big announcement that came out in 2015 about this company wanting in to the World Economic Forum.
00:16:31.540So it's not like, you know, you're you're going along with the net zero thing because you have to because it's been imposed on you.
00:16:43.020And it's good to highlight these kind of connections.
00:16:45.240And I think Rene would probably sit down with you and give you better answers than I'm about to give you.
00:16:50.340But where I'm looking at it from, because I'm a candidate within the PPC, is whether or not Rene has influence on the rest of our candidates.
00:17:24.160Do you want to stop the Paris Accord and all of these things?
00:17:26.800And his answer to all of those is yes.
00:17:28.840Now, his industry, like what he's been working on, is in that area.
00:17:32.300So he's actually seeing how globalists and global multinationals are working in that area, and he disagrees with it.
00:17:38.740So if you actually sit down and have a conversation with him, you'll learn that he's kind of one of us inside of there, which may be very beneficial to us long term.
00:17:46.100But what's most important to the PVC party is whether or not Rene himself has an impact on the policies and the candidates and would be considered somebody that has influence in order to guide us.
00:18:11.420So if there's a concern of whether or not Rene is influenced in some way through his employer, well, his impact on the PPC is going to be minimal to just his riding and whether or not his constituents trust him.
00:18:24.000And that's going to be between him and his constituents.
00:18:26.340Yeah, but that's the optics of the situation, Jason.
01:01:46.960And I've been in a lot of groups as well.
01:01:48.360But where I do think where, you know, it's easy to say that that's racism is when it comes to, well, the conversations like immigration, whether or not that's racist and whether or not you're white nationalist and those kind of stuff.
01:02:00.600Like when you start heading into those directions, it's pretty easy to say that looks racist or that feels racist.
01:04:45.840It's going to be winning the conversation out in the public space and actually go and having those town hall meetings, go to the community centers and just knock on some doors.
01:04:55.760And those are the people we got to talk to, because when we do that, they don't even know about Project Cactus and they don't even know about the PPC.
01:05:02.980So when we introduce it to them, that's where we're going to start winning.
01:05:05.600it's amazing to me how many people in this country are still so politically uneducated
01:05:12.460and they just vote the way their parents did or the way they always have or they pick their
01:05:16.880favorite color orange purple blue what they do i don't know i like red i'm gonna go red that's
01:05:24.500that's it um you're still doing your show regularly right like a couple times a day you're on
01:05:29.780well today it's four today it was four shows but that's not normal normally doing one show
01:05:35.4206 p.m mountain 8 p.m eastern an hour before you so you can catch and hang out with me before you
01:05:40.160watch your shadow and uh yeah it's been going really good we've had excellent guests and we're
01:05:44.920now really pushing forward some initiatives now instead of just having conversations i've got
01:05:49.040myself involved in some movements now um not my king.ca is my more recent one because i'm starting
01:05:55.200that conversation about what would a constitutional republic look like in canada now that we're
01:05:59.500talking about the 51st state and we're all kind of you know open to the idea at least having that
01:06:04.060conversation maybe now's a good time to start talking about making a step towards a republic
01:06:09.000which would be a requirement by the way if we became the 51st state or something like that
01:06:13.160we'd have to you know anyways i'm gonna interrupt you a second here you're in alberta what's the
01:06:18.540mood about uh leaving the country independence or joining the united states what's it like there
01:06:24.52040% strong support to separate tomorrow, if we could.
01:06:29.720That's what I just had a conversation about.
01:06:31.760So my episode right before this was with Bruce Pardee out of Ontario
01:06:35.000and then Catherine Kowalowicz, an Alberta lawyer.
01:07:17.480But as that lead starts to diminish in Alberta, we're getting a little bit concerned that we may not get another conservative government. So it's really, really, it's like a wildfire out here. It's really starting to pick up steam quickly. And this is why I'm pushing ahead with this initiative, because there's a lot of people having these conversations right now.
01:07:34.680You've been believing these polls. I have absolutely zero trust in ECOS or even Leger. I mean, I believe that I think the liberals own them.
01:07:45.920And I can prove it to you because the leaders debate changed the rules to change it from a popular vote to polls because they control the polls.
01:07:53.520I'm not sure if you're aware of that, but just a few weeks ago, the liberal, not the liberal, the leaders debate committee released a new rule change.
01:08:01.560It used to be you had to have 4% of the popular vote in the previous election, or 5, yeah, 4%, and the PPC had 5, so we qualified.
01:08:32.980And Shadow, if they were really trying to change the rules in order to allow a new party with great support to get on that leadership debate, because that's what would have to happen.
01:08:42.120and you need 4% support 28 days before the election,
01:08:44.900that would be a new party that all of a sudden grew.
01:08:58.020They removed the condition that the PPC already qualified for
01:09:02.200and now just gave us another hurdle to fight for,
01:09:04.660and it's not just a hurdle to get to 4%.
01:09:06.420It's a hurdle to get these polls to be truthful.
01:09:08.660And I contacted Elections Canada and I said, is this not elections interference? And they responded and they say they have nothing to do with the leadership debate. That's an independent organization. They can do whatever they want. But they dropped the question. They didn't answer my question. Is this interference? If they control the polls and they control who goes on there and who Canadians hear, is that not a type of interference? And I got nothing out of Elections Canada for that question.
01:09:33.060interesting we should go after them uh far more on that one because it's obvious
01:09:38.240well when they made that rule change only one human in canada was impacted by that the leader
01:09:44.920of the ppc there was no other party that was impacted by that there's no new party that's
01:09:49.140growing that will benefit from it there was only one person the leader of the ppc that was impacted
01:09:54.940by that particular rule change and that's not how we do laws in canada it's not supposed to be
01:09:59.220targeted to one person or one role uh it was ridiculous and it really could be fixed by just
01:10:05.240adding or you had four percent popular vote or four percent poll support and then you're in
01:10:10.100i don't understand well i do understand it was a rhetorical question why they're keeping max off
01:10:14.640that stage but look what they're doing they're keeping them off that stage dude this conversation
01:10:19.100could go on forever i know you've had a long day and i do have a few things to to get to as well
01:10:24.260thank you jason for coming on again tonight you guys can find jason levine the levine show on all
01:10:28.880the different social media and your website is thelevineshow.com and thank you very much shadow
01:10:34.320cool man we'll talk to you again soon all right bye
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01:11:11.400guest michelle sterling on monday night she is with the friends of science she released a hockey
01:11:18.940stick video that's all the rage on youtube these past few days go look that up and watch it i think
01:11:24.560it's like eight minutes long very informative and uh she's going to set the record straight
01:11:29.200on co2 on climate change on all of that stuff monday night michelle sterling
01:11:35.480friends of science right here on the shadow at night live stream there's some action on
01:11:42.400the ostrich farm in edgewood british columbia a couple of days ago i want to thank our friend
01:11:46.940sarah bankert for providing this video jan or february 26 2025 we are at universal ostrich farms
01:11:58.220edgewood british columbia we have the rcmp here and two people from the cfia morning
01:16:06.580We're going to stay on top of that as much as we can for you guys.
01:16:09.260Donald Trump was once again having a press conference today in the Oval Office and he was talking with Keir Starmer, the prime minister of the UK who was there, but nobody wanted to talk to him unless it was about censorship and arresting people for making or posting memes on Facebook or X or Instagram.
01:16:28.640But the question of Canada, of course, came up and here's what Donald Trump had to say regarding terror.
01:16:33.380For fentanyl, Mr. President, less than 1% of all fentanyl that comes into the U.S. is apprehended at the Canadian border.
01:16:42.560So why use fentanyl as a reason to oppose that?
01:16:44.840Because they should be apprehending much more. They're only apprehending 1%. You're right about that.
01:16:50.080It's a little more than that. But they should be apprehending much more because a lot comes through Canada.
01:16:55.080And as Mexico gets stronger in terms of the border, it goes up to Canada.
01:17:00.380and a lot of drugs are coming in through Canada.
01:17:06.280So what he said is that, at least right now,
01:17:09.400here's the message that came out of the White House regarding Canada.
01:17:12.720There's two different sets of tariffs that are going to be imposed or may be imposed.
01:17:18.940And the first one is this fentanyl tariff, this hard drug tariff.
01:17:23.220And Trump, if he is satisfied with the Canadian response to the fentanyl issue
01:17:29.840And my friends, just because we have a fentanyl czar now in place doesn't mean they've really done much.
01:17:35.700I haven't seen. Have you seen much activity?
01:17:37.800Have you heard about much activity regarding improvement of our borders when it comes to drugs passing over them?
01:17:45.680And I'm not talking just about land borders.
01:17:47.740I'm talking also about ports, because according to Sam Cooper of the Bureau,
01:17:53.960So most of that activity comes in from China through the ports of Vancouver, which are controlled by the Chinese triad gangs, of which there are thousands operating in Canada, upwards of 4000 different criminal organizations, each with their own power structure from the top down, who are bringing in and transporting fentanyl across Canada and through down to the United States, doing some very creative things to get it across.
01:18:23.960and that's what Donald Trump is talking about there.
01:18:27.040He says, yeah, 1% of the fentanyl that comes in to the United States is from Canada, sure,
01:18:32.180but there's a lot more coming in that we're not tracking, we're not finding,
01:18:35.560because it's coming into Canada completely and totally unchecked.
01:18:41.400And that is the problem that he has, at least when it comes to fentanyl,
01:18:46.840with Justin Trudeau and his Liberal Party.
01:18:49.580Speaking of which, here is Trudeau talking about the tariffs.
01:18:52.960The first thing on tariffs is to emphasize that our government, and indeed all of Team Canada,
01:18:59.120premiers, business leaders, community leaders, are focused on one thing,
01:19:05.760making sure that come Tuesday and for the weeks that follow, there are no tariffs imposed on Canada.
01:19:15.880The tariffs that the President speaks of for next week are centered around the fentanyl crisis.
01:19:22.960that they're facing in the United States but that we are also facing in Canada and for months now
01:19:28.400I've been emphasizing that less than one percent of the fentanyl that arrives in the United States
01:19:35.600comes from Canada but we know that even that one percent or less than one percent should be reduced
01:19:42.080which is why we've invested 1.3 billion dollars in strengthening our border capacities with
01:19:48.800black hawk helicopters with drones with uh 10 000 uh people uh patrolling our borders and uh
01:19:56.160keeping canadians and americans safe no no that 1.3 billion dollar investment is stretched out
01:20:03.200over five or six years they haven't just spent 1.3 billion dollars safeguarding their borders
01:20:09.680in the last month and a half he's a liar again with ministers and heads of agencies including
01:20:16.800the commissioner of the RCMP and the head of the CVSA and our fentanyl czar down in
01:20:22.300Washington to demonstrate that this is an issue that we should be working together on
01:20:31.140and that Canada is not the source of problems for the United States.
01:20:35.520We will continue to do that work and do everything necessary to avoid these tariffs coming in.
01:20:41.960like i said if on tuesday there are uh unjustified tariffs brought in on canada
01:20:49.000we will have an immediate and extremely strong response as canadians expect
01:20:56.040yeah he's going to be prime minister for another 10 days talk tough justin sure where's he been
01:21:02.760for the past two or three weeks oh spending our money in different countries speaking of spending
01:21:08.440our money in different countries look at this here's something i didn't even know about or maybe
01:21:11.880Maybe I did and then forgot about because something else came up.
01:24:17.300Ban Donald Trump from attending the G7 summit.
01:24:21.240Donald Trump should not be welcome here.
01:24:22.920Why would we invite someone who has threatened our very democracy, our very sovereignty?
01:24:30.360Why would we invite someone who has threatened our economic well-being?
01:24:35.680Why would we invite someone who threatens our allies and threatens the world's stability?
01:24:41.460Why would we allow a convicted criminal into our country?
01:24:44.820Why would we invite someone who has such disdain for multilateral organizations?
01:24:50.340Instead, what we should do is use the G7 summit as an opportunity to work with our allies on a plan to resist Donald Trump and his dangerous threats to the world.
01:33:18.860But to me, it seems like they all have lost their freaking minds, all of them.0.86
01:33:29.060Getting back to the liberals for just a second, we've heard Mark Carney deny that he was the CEO of Brookfield when they moved their operation from Calgary to New York City.0.97
01:33:39.720But that was proven to be a lie, and there's the receipts to back it up.
01:33:44.840And so the reporters, believe it or not, who are in the House of Commons today in Ottawa were trying to find politicians to speak to about this.
01:33:52.960And they found Jonathan Wilkinson, who's one of the cabinet ministers in the liberal government, but they change so often.
01:33:59.600I can't remember. Natural Resources, I think he is.
01:34:02.400He's also the MP for North Vancouver, but he's at least he was way behind in the polls in that particular riding.
01:34:09.060So here he, listen to what he says when he's asked about Mark Carney being the CEO who moved Brookfield from Canada to the United States, even after Donald Trump's threats against Canada began.
01:34:29.660What I would say is, irrespective of this particular instance, anyone who knows anything about business knows that boards actually have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders.
01:34:56.820So where are you when a company that takes an investment dollar, their first responsibility is to the climate and not to their customers or investors, Jonathan?
01:35:08.120Do you ever say anything about it then?
01:36:33.420And here's his thoughts about the files themselves and how they were released.
01:36:38.300And they were released today by the government into the hands of social media influencers.
01:36:46.160Not Pam Bondi standing behind a podium reading names.
01:36:49.780She just gave whatever files she had, the ones that hadn't yet been destroyed, to social media influencers, and they're the ones who went on with the information on their social media accounts and guess what? Redacted. Very little new information, but here's Glenn Beck.
01:37:10.960um we are uh i'm still at the studio and um i've just been gathering the information on the so-called
01:37:22.240epstein client release um and i've just been i just talked to uh liz wheeler and i was just
01:37:28.640watching her podcast uh because she has some additional information um but we've gone through
01:37:34.480the list, and Jason is here, our chief researcher Jason. What was in this big briefing that
01:37:45.340was given by the president and everybody else today?
01:37:48.040This was, so we went through the entire 20 plus page dump that was released through the
01:37:53.720DOJ or the FBI. It's on the website now, it's public information. And it is the biggest
01:37:59.240disappointment I think that you'll find. I encourage you to do your own homework on this.
01:38:02.700have, it's mostly procedural jargon, Glenn, heavily, heavily redacted, basically no new
01:38:10.200information, little bit of tidbits, but again, it's inconsequential. It's just procedural stuff.
01:38:14.460It's bad. So they were talking, this was going to be
01:38:18.580released that everybody has been waiting for. Apparently with the president, vice president,
01:38:26.600Pam Bondi and Kash Patel in the room, Liz Wheeler and others were told this morning,
01:38:32.680given this binder, which has absolutely nothing in it, and they were told that by Pam Bondi and
01:38:38.820the president that she had, because the president asked, ordered for the release of this.
01:38:45.620Kash Patel delivered it to her desk last week. They were going through it. They expected this
01:38:49.840to be full of everything that Kash Patel has told me he has seen in the past, but it was,
01:38:58.340there was nothing, there was nothing left in it. And Liz reports that she was told that
01:39:06.780the feeling from Pam Bondi and others is that the Southern District of New York, the FBI in
01:39:16.720the Southern District of New York, actually has the tapes and everything else and will not turn
01:39:23.700it over to the White House or to Pam Bondi. If that is true, and I understand Liz correctly,
01:39:31.280and Liz is going to be on my radio program tomorrow and my podcast tomorrow to talk about
01:39:35.260her experience. If that indeed is true, then we have a civil war on our hands, an internal civil
01:39:44.580war. You have a duly elected president, his duly elected confirmed leaders of the FBI and the
01:39:55.020Department of Justice, and then you have the Southern District of New York FBI and Department
01:40:02.040of Justice bucking the orders of the president and their direct bosses. There is no other way
01:40:12.720to describe it. If that is true, there is no other way to describe it than you have a department or
01:40:20.340two departments under the president that are in complete rebellion. And that would have to be,
01:40:27.180I mean, that's not something you take a doge scalpel to. That's something you take an axe to
01:40:33.100And you cut it out because that's a cancer and it is a rebellious cancer and honestly, a civil war against the president and his duly processed appointees.
01:40:50.180Um, I, I, this is, this is not what I expected from Kash Patel and Pam Bondi and the president
01:41:03.680and the vice president. And I take them at this point at their word because I know them. I know
01:41:10.300how serious, um, each of them are about rooting out this cancer, but this looks really, really
01:41:17.900horrible for the president because what others will say is, well, this is just the same old
01:41:25.260stuff and names of people that they were friends of were on and so they had to blame it on somebody
01:41:30.960else. Well, A, I just don't believe that of the president and Cash and Pam. I know the passionate
01:41:40.100response in private about these names and about this list and how Cash in particular
01:41:50.300couldn't wait to release this. He is on a, I mean, he is a dog with a bone. He is on a mission,
01:42:00.320and so is the president, and I believe Pambandi is too, on a mission to rat this evil out.
01:42:13.280The state is at civil war with itself.
01:42:19.580If it's not true, then we will see this administration not move against the Southern District of New York.
01:42:33.720If I were President Trump, and I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt here because I think this is, I think giving him the benefit of the doubt, he is focused on Russia and everything else.
01:42:48.440But if I were Donald Trump, and no matter what I had planned, if I had an agency in rebellion, I would get on my plane and I would fly to New York and I would personally fire every single person and I'd put a padlock on that door in Southern District of New York.
01:43:10.740That's what the president, I believe, should do if, I understand what Liz is saying, is correct, and if it is indeed true.
01:43:24.080You cannot tolerate this. We already have 70 lawsuits internally from people who work in the administration, suing the administration, trying to stop the duly elected president who is the CEO of the administration.
01:43:44.840These people think they don't work for the president of the United States.
01:43:50.040The president of the United States was elected and given a mandate.
01:43:54.620He was hired and duly elected, winning the popular vote and the electoral college.
01:47:12.400We're going to look at everything you are doing.
01:47:14.920And then maybe in 90 days we'll move forward once you make your case for it.
01:47:19.000And if it seems like a reasonable case where you're going to do actual research and take the proper amount of time to make a drug that is safe and effective for real, we'll talk about it.
01:47:32.180Theo Argetus wrote this for The Hub today.
01:47:38.160Mark Carney's big budget plan is less impressive than it seems.
01:47:41.680And Roman Babber, I think he is, is he an MP now?
01:48:43.740And by the way, these numbers have been backed up by the Royal Bank of Canada, who, from what we understand, are part of all this climate nonsense.
01:48:52.860Justin Trudeau's early intellectual influences as liberal leader came mostly from Washington's democratic circles.
01:48:59.400Think tanks like the Center for American Progress that focus on providing practical policy ideas to progressive governments.
01:49:06.320Mark Carney, positioning himself as Trudeau's successor,
01:49:09.700is looking elsewhere for inspiration across the Atlantic
01:49:12.380to his old stomping grounds in London.
01:49:15.380Carney recently unveiled what he calls a new approach to fiscal management,
01:49:18.700a framework essentially lifted from the playbook of
01:49:21.340U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's Labour government.
01:49:26.100No surprise given Carney has been advising Starmer's administration on policy.
01:49:30.680now karma sorry keir starmer hair hair starmer as they call him not cure hair hair starmer
01:49:39.360is hard left this guy he is he's a communist carney's plan would split canada's budget into
01:49:49.880two categories day-to-day government operations and public investment so this is where he says
01:49:55.100he's going to invest our money not spend it we're going to invest it either way he takes it from us
01:50:00.040His pledge balanced the operating budget within three years, which the other liberal candidates, leadership candidates the other night said, you can't do that.
01:50:11.120Even Karina Gould, the duh, said that.
01:50:14.320And he says he'll use existing tax revenue to do it, use debt to finance investment spending, but with limits based on a new debt to GDP rule.
01:50:23.800All these elements closely mirror labor's fiscal framework.
01:50:27.620This accounting shift adds layers of complexity to how Canadian budgets are traditionally framed,
01:50:56.920And taxes will go up eventually because of that, and it's also going to be very inflationary.
01:51:03.640Two, before accumulating more debt, the government needs to convince Canadians it has its fiscal house in order.
01:51:11.800Carney's pledge to streamline government operations is designed to create that perception to secure a license to borrow.
01:51:19.280And three, Carney's fiscal framework isn't about tightening policy.
01:51:22.400It's about how to loosen it credibly for investment spending.
01:51:25.720At his press conference last week, Carney sought to put as much emphasis as possible on a second takeaway, keeping day-to-day operating spending in check.
01:51:35.140But the more lasting impact of his framework would be to establish a permanent borrowing plan for investment spending.
01:51:42.840How much borrowing are we talking about?
01:51:45.700While much will depend on how investment is defined, Carney's backgrounder mentioned that current capital spending is estimated at about 1% of GDP, or $30 billion.
01:51:55.720I'm guessing this is likely just a starting point for Carney going forward.
01:52:01.040Just on climate, Carney's campaign said in its backgrounder that Canada must invest $2 trillion.
01:52:06.420This is the thing Babber put up on his ex.
01:52:09.900$2 trillion by 2050, $80 billion per year to hit net zero targets.
01:52:14.460Currently, that investment is between $10 and $20 billion.
01:52:16.820The implication is the government would need to help fill that massive gap.0.67
01:52:25.720virtue signaling. That's what this is. We'll also see pressure on spending grow in other areas,
01:52:34.040including defense and economic infrastructure. Carney also cited housing and trade quarters.
01:52:38.880So let me get this straight. You're telling me that this is Carney's plan. This is his playbook.
01:52:46.020This is the playbook that destroys Canada. He's going to go to the United States and tell Donald
01:52:51.580Trump that this is what he's doing? He's got to pull back on military spending even more,
01:52:56.160never mind the border, who cares about that? Do you think he'd be in any kind of position
01:53:02.000to negotiate with Donald Trump with this plan? Not even a chance.
01:53:11.220Under an ambitious investment plan, we could see annual borrowing of much larger magnitudes than
01:53:16.280the current 30 billion in federal capital spending carney is essentially abandoning
01:53:21.620formally the idea that canada's federal debt should plateau at all as long as it's in line
01:53:27.500uh sorry as long as it's in the service of investment investment investment
01:53:32.700for a sense of scope look at the last uk budget and its fiscal plan released four months ago the
01:53:40.200labor government used this exact same framework to increase borrowing for capital spending by
01:53:44.940eighty four billion pounds over the next four years than what it had been budgeted by the
01:53:50.520defeated uk conservatives in labor's case that's in addition to other spending that will drive
01:53:56.040additional borrowing by a cumulative 136 billion pounds over four years a few more thoughts on
01:54:02.480carney's plan reframing at its core this is a reframing exercise nothing fundamental changes
01:54:08.780just how the budget is presented it's a way of emphasizing investment as a priority
01:54:14.040In that sense, it's sort of consistent with how the Liberals have framed their deficit spending for a decade now.
01:54:20.440In the last Liberal budget, the word investment appeared 440 times versus just 35 for spending.
01:54:28.160But Carney's attempt to impose a formal structure on top of Liberal messaging reflects a recognition that Canadians have likely become more skeptical about rising debt levels, which have doubled under Trudeau.
01:54:40.840Carney, in a way, is also offering up the latest iteration of a federal fiscal rule or anchor.
01:54:47.340The current government has abandoned so many fiscal anchors that it's lost credibility.
01:54:51.040Carney's plan effectively introduces a two-pronged rule.
01:54:54.880A debt-to-GDP trajectory is the ultimate constraint on federal spending, including investment,
01:55:00.740and a cap on operating expenses tied to tax revenue.
01:55:04.080The former banker is also signaling prudence in two significant ways.
01:55:08.200First, tying future operating expenses to tax revenue creates a strong incentive to control spending.
01:55:14.500No politician wants to explicitly hike taxes to fund government spending.
01:55:19.000Second, he's pledging to cut taxes as a sign of credibility.
01:55:22.980In other words, he's already committed to financing a tax cut through this effort.
01:55:33.320And he's going to borrow money to do that.
01:55:35.340So even if you get a tax break, the money that you do keep from that tax break is going to be worth less and less and less because of the inflation this guy is going to create.
01:55:45.700And watch the dollar sink versus the United States.
01:55:49.860What was it today? 68 cents, 67 cents?
01:55:55.540Balancing the operating budget sounds impressive, but under this framework, it's less of an achievement than it seems.
01:56:00.680excluding investment spending from the calculation inherently shifts the numbers towards balance
01:56:05.620without requiring actual reductions in day-to-day spending.