The Shadoe Davis Show - February 03, 2026


Feb. 2nd⧸2026- The Story of Mark & Jannecke Friesen


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00:00:00.000 we're going to record everything. So we're recording right now. I'm going to edit and
00:00:05.260 we're going to put this on Monday night. Okay. Sounds good. Okay. So that we don't have to
00:00:09.760 worry about rushing or time. And what I want to do also is, um, I'm going to go back in my archives
00:00:18.720 and I'm going to find some of the discussions that Mark and I had like five years and then
00:00:25.260 maybe one from a year after that and then a year after that and we're we're gonna show people in
00:00:33.520 case they forget sometimes you know people have got short memories yeah they don't realize what
00:00:41.340 somebody has contributed to the cause moving forward mark woke a lot of people up yeah this
00:00:48.780 is true to what's going on and um and not just through podcasts like mine but through live
00:00:56.780 appearances through one-on-one conversations all across the country yep and um you know people need
00:01:04.660 to remember that you know as we pick up that torch and move forward you know we need to remember
00:01:10.920 where it came from in the first place or else we lose our our footing completely so yannicka i want
00:01:18.680 to ask you and look i'm gonna get personal everything that's happening around me these
00:01:26.500 days are pretty personal and private i'm open for everything i mean you're from norway right
00:01:33.500 yes so mark's a dude from saskatchewan how how do you two meet in the first place our little
00:01:43.000 hallmark story huh so mark yeah why not let's start like that so mark has actually um he's adopted
00:01:53.220 um me too mom and dad from oh are you yeah okay so then that's something he and i talked about
00:02:00.400 as a matter of fact okay nice so but his um biological dad he met up with him in
00:02:07.580 uh i think 2002 or something like that um he actually is from norway his he original like
00:02:17.600 he's originally from norway or his family his mom moved to canada so mark found me he wanted to
00:02:27.020 visit his motherland his uh you know where he had his roots and he went to uh back in the days then
00:02:38.680 it was this was 2008 there was a little app in facebook called social me and i had just downloaded
00:02:47.520 that thing by slope i had no idea what it was i just saw what is this you know sometimes you go
00:02:54.300 into something and click on something and all of a sudden something's downloaded and you don't know
00:02:57.920 what it is. And there's a message popping up saying, how about you dropping everything and
00:03:04.980 move to Canada with me? Because this thing had taken my profile picture and I don't even know
00:03:11.560 how it worked. And I just answered back, not knowing who I answered, just saying, sure, let
00:03:17.080 me just drink my coffee first. And then I opened the message more and I see this dude in a cowboy
00:03:22.960 hat and no shirt and i'm thinking how tacky can a person be but we started talking and we had so
00:03:30.720 similar humor and a month later he came to see me in norway for two weeks and then he went back home
00:03:39.440 and little did i know that he just just leave it there mark little did i know that he just went
00:03:46.580 home to pack up everything and and come back to Norway and so that's sort of how we met and he
00:03:55.320 stayed with me in Norway then for a year Mark oh my goodness okay so after that year you know
00:04:04.780 Mark wanted me to come to Canada with him and to make that an easier thing for me and the
00:04:11.100 transition and everything we got married in Norway so we decided a Friday to get married
00:04:16.160 the next friday did it seem like you were rushing through this at the time like did it seem fast to
00:04:23.400 you when you're in love nothing is fast enough you know and uh you know looking back on everything
00:04:30.800 and and seeing where we are today and how much has happened and all that i would do it all over
00:04:35.540 again even though it has nearly killed me at this point um but i would do it all over again because
00:04:41.780 it's it i knew it was right you know so
00:04:46.020 okay you can sit down mark so yeah but it's tough i'm i'm far away from home and um
00:05:02.740 i i wish i had my family to support me these days um they are trying as best as they can
00:05:10.860 from afar you know but um what was your family's reaction when you just decided to pick up and move
00:05:16.940 to canada with this guy you you met like a year before you know um my my dad um because i'm a
00:05:25.760 musician i sing you know and my dad is a singer and a musician and we used to play together like
00:05:32.400 we were on stages together all the time and so for him that was a little difficult because he knew
00:05:37.480 that he was going to lose that that was part of why it was difficult for me too um i lost my mom
00:05:45.300 when i was uh just 11 years old so i had only my dad and my dad and i have a very tight relationship
00:05:51.540 so that has been of course one of the hardest things but my dad said to me when after he met
00:05:57.200 mark and got to know mark you know how you know the guy asks for permission to get married now
00:06:03.100 this was the other way around my dad actually said can you please marry her
00:06:07.500 so even though he knew it was going to be tough for me to you know move so far away and not be
00:06:14.200 able to be on stages with me anymore and sing with me and share all that he knew that this
00:06:19.140 was right for me so so this is like 2009 2010 and around there um eight and then 2009 is when
00:06:28.260 we moved over here okay so you've been here for i guess 17 years now 17 years this year yeah
00:06:35.300 we came to canada just a couple days before canada day so yeah so you got here in the summertime
00:06:42.080 yes i did you didn't know what the winter was going to be like yeah is it is it comparable
00:06:48.760 to norway well you know what mark said to me minus 10 was the coldest he experienced with
00:06:54.140 me in norway but i'm from a sort of a mini vancouver right on the coast it's a coastal city
00:06:59.560 very humid and minus 10 he said i've never been this cold so he said you're gonna love it in
00:07:06.140 saskatchewan because that's warming and you know compared to this which is true that i i like this
00:07:12.360 dry cold way better than the humidity oh you're talking about the difference between yeah the
00:07:17.980 humid cold and the dry cold yeah i lived out out east in canada for a long time and there's
00:07:24.300 you know what it's difficult for me to say because we've just been experiencing this
00:07:28.620 minus 35 stretch for the past couple of weeks and i think the coldest it got when i was living out
00:07:35.420 in ontario on lake ontario would have been like minus 15 maybe with the wind off the lake though
00:07:40.900 and the humidity out there it felt more like minus 80 and it stayed in your bones yes yes
00:07:47.580 and that is the one that I like here
00:07:49.600 you can actually dress here
00:07:50.900 like put a couple layers on
00:07:52.540 and of course here in Saskatchewan
00:07:54.680 there's lots of wind too
00:07:56.380 but still you're able to dress
00:07:59.000 in Norway minus 10
00:08:01.060 it goes right through anything that you put on
00:08:03.340 it doesn't matter you can go out naked
00:08:04.720 you're going to be just as cold
00:08:06.140 yeah and the thing about it too is that
00:08:08.520 I always found
00:08:09.580 is that you could never really warm up
00:08:12.440 you know you could sit in front of a fire
00:08:14.180 for two hours out there and you just
00:08:16.020 but here i mean it takes 10 minutes and you're good you know when you come back inside from the
00:08:21.280 minus 40 so uh you've spent all this time in in canada i'm assuming that in that year before
00:08:29.440 between when you met mark and then you got married you found out that this dude is fully aware of
00:08:37.120 what's going on in the world way more than most people like did you find out immediately no we
00:08:44.980 didn't talk much um i remember obama being in office when we met and i said i love this dude
00:08:52.020 like compared to everything else and he kind of looked at me like okay well i'm not gonna let you
00:08:57.360 not love him if you love him he actually got me for christmas that that year too he got me
00:09:02.580 obama's book i've never opened it and i just want to underline that i've never read it
00:09:08.060 but because it didn't take very long for me to understand that you know there's more to this
00:09:13.840 world than i was aware of so little by little he would you know introduce me to you know his
00:09:19.780 opinions and explanations for why why his why he had this opinion so and it wasn't uh mark and i
00:09:28.460 are pretty similar it didn't take very long for me to catch on and just see that yeah i mean i feel
00:09:33.660 it in my guts and in my bones that what you're saying is correct so there was never a moment
00:09:39.240 when you thought he might be crazy well other things you know it's funny you say because
00:09:48.060 you know i'm going to go back like i said to you before i'm going to go back i'm going to find
00:09:53.440 some of the early interviews that mark and i did grizzly patriot right and he's you know i i
00:09:59.240 remember specifically there was one instance when he brought up agenda 2030 and the 17
00:10:03.780 sustainable development goals through the united nations and i remember the look on my face when
00:10:10.340 he said those things to me it wasn't like you're nuts it was more like what right and i want to
00:10:16.740 find that specifically just so you know people can see what my evolution has been and maybe
00:10:24.740 theirs as well maybe mark was was the one that that helped them get to this has he always been
00:10:30.100 speaking publicly about this or is it just since covid well it started with yellow vests so that
00:10:36.720 was a couple years a couple three years before covid i guess yeah so it started then um me being
00:10:44.460 a musician he actually put on a concert for the um wounded warriors in here in saskatoon on broadway
00:10:54.580 and i remember him being the emcee and he was so nervous like he was so so nervous and this was
00:11:02.420 back in probably i would say 2014 15 something somewhere around there and him being on stage
00:11:10.480 talking and speaking to people he was just beside himself being nervous but he did it and you know
00:11:16.980 he's he's good at it and little by little he just you know he found that that was his element he
00:11:22.960 loved it and you said to me that he loves people and you told me a church story we see him in behind
00:11:28.580 you he's wearing the christ the healer t-shirt and uh could you tell that story that it's just
00:11:34.060 a recent one we'll get back to the uh the original line of conversation in a second but that church
00:11:39.140 story where he started hugging people yeah i mean i saw that you know mark mark loves to be he's
00:11:46.060 been front and center and talking to people like you say for so long now that when he got sick and
00:11:51.960 lost that ability it's uh I could just imagine how you know it's almost like a rug being pulled
00:11:57.920 out underneath you you know and all of a sudden you don't have that crowd and the people that 0.99
00:12:03.960 all of a sudden you're just home with stupid me only me that to bounce you know back and forth 0.97
00:12:10.780 on it so anyway um with opinions and talk to and whatever so but when he went to church and 0.99
00:12:18.780 he was always sitting front row
00:12:20.880 when he goes to church he's always sitting front
00:12:23.080 row and as soon as someone is
00:12:25.040 done talking he always goes up
00:12:27.060 and gives them the biggest hug
00:12:28.280 it's almost like I feel you and
00:12:30.880 thank you and I know the position
00:12:33.100 you just had by talking
00:12:35.080 to the crowd and all that stuff and
00:12:36.820 yeah I absolutely
00:12:38.660 I love it you know that it's
00:12:41.040 all that in that hug that he gives
00:12:42.960 so
00:12:44.300 I want to get to his current condition
00:12:46.740 you know towards the end of this
00:12:48.760 um but yeah let's let's just go back to where we were so we talked about yellow vest and how
00:12:54.720 you know he hosted the concert and when did he get sick yannick like the first time with that
00:13:00.600 pneumonia and and the whole big because there's people who don't know this part of the story and
00:13:05.340 this is what this is what first brought my attention to mark was the fact that there was
00:13:11.200 this guy speaking out in saskatchewan and then he got sick with pneumonia got transported to
00:13:16.980 toronto and it sounded like they were trying to kill him in the hospital from what i recall so
00:13:23.100 could you go through that please so mark got sick there was an election you know he was a candidate
00:13:28.580 for the ppc company company um yeah party and then um there was an election night this was just in
00:13:36.760 late september of 2021 um everyone that was in there was a ballroom but there was no ventilation
00:13:46.000 nothing but there was a lot of people including myself um that did not get sick that night but
00:13:52.340 there was an after party with Maxime Bernier and Mark and people around and PPC and a couple of
00:13:58.740 others everyone got sick everyone got sick just a few days later but Mark said to me because he had
00:14:05.560 a town hall just a few days later and he said that's where I got sick and I said I don't know
00:14:11.580 it could be both, you know, who knows? I didn't get sick right away. I got sick maybe a few days
00:14:18.200 after that again, but I was sicker than Mark. Like I had to send our dogs to a kennel. I couldn't
00:14:23.500 even get out of bed to feed them or nothing. So, but Mark had a problem with his lungs. Like he
00:14:28.320 couldn't breathe. So I will never forget this. This is my dad's birthday too. October 4th is
00:14:35.280 when he um had he he was downstairs and i was in my room in my bed and he called me on the phone
00:14:45.300 and he said i have to call an ambulance i can't breathe and i said was this 2020 21
00:14:52.680 october 4th 2021 okay so he said so i said you know we were both scared we had both heard
00:15:01.080 stories of you know people on the ventilator and all that and that they put people on ventilators
00:15:06.000 to kill them basically you know so were you thinking this was covid or some i still don't
00:15:12.280 know what covid is you know i really don't um but anyway um mark got really sick and couldn't 0.95
00:15:20.420 breathe and he said i need to call an ambulance so i said you do that i was so sick i couldn't
00:15:24.960 even get out of bed to say goodbye to him when they came and picked him up but i heard them say
00:15:29.440 you have 75 in oxygen had you waited one more day we would have scraped you off the floor
00:15:34.120 so who knows how long he had you know oxygen that low i don't know but he had been sick around two
00:15:42.420 weeks at that point so what happened then so he was put in the hospital he was put they put
00:15:50.180 prongs in his nose and a mask over his face so two systems of oxygen going in and they still as
00:15:57.220 soon as they tried to turn it down just a little bit he's very busy behind me here i see that
00:16:02.240 as soon as they tried to turn down the oxygen just a little bit it wouldn't saturate so they
00:16:07.600 needed to have both those systems going full throttle uh so this was monday he came into
00:16:13.980 the hospital he had his phone with him so he was able to send me a few texts but he was really sick
00:16:18.900 so he there wasn't many texts going back and forth between us but thursday morning i got a message
00:16:25.920 from him saying baby they have to intubate me and being from norway and not not necessarily
00:16:31.820 understanding all the words i was like what does that mean mark intubating is that a ventilator
00:16:37.460 and he actually said i'm not sure but listen i'm young i'm healthy i'm gonna be fine don't worry
00:16:43.540 you know so that was the last time i heard from him and saw him and he was still in saskatchewan
00:16:52.120 at that point he was in hospital he was actually in ruh at that point um so they put him on a
00:17:00.120 ventilator and uh in an induced coma so he was on very heavy medication i don't know lots of people
00:17:08.660 online have heard mark say you know they gave me fentanyl and ketamine they had to do that i guess
00:17:14.080 because they had to keep him really shot night really deep sleep and also pain free so he was
00:17:21.620 given that medication or those things for that reason and I talked to the doctor and he started
00:17:31.320 saying that you know he is really really sick and we don't know if if he's even going to make it
00:17:39.600 from day to day like we don't know and I said I understand can I come and see him and that was
00:17:44.820 just like, no, because he's in something we call COVID cabana. And he's sick. And I said, well,
00:17:54.080 hello, I have been home with him. I've been sick myself. You guys have yourself said that there's
00:18:00.920 immunity at least, or you know, that you're immune to this, at least for the next three months. I'm
00:18:06.280 fine. I want to come see my husband. Yeah, I'm sorry, you can't. He's also in this double room
00:18:11.340 in this covid cabana with another person who's really sick and i'm like okay i can't give
00:18:16.780 anything to them if they're both sick and i have had it so i'm not gonna get sick i want to see my
00:18:21.940 husband no i'm sorry but then his buddy sean taylor that you may know is so he he heard about
00:18:28.540 this of course i had contact with him and and he came to saskatchewan and being you know a nurse
00:18:33.480 fired nurse at that point he um he fought his way in and but he wasn't allowed to come into the room
00:18:40.960 He was he but he saw him from from through a glass, you know, into that room and hooked up on all these machines and everything.
00:18:48.300 So he was there till I cannot remember the exact date they sent him to Toronto.
00:18:55.740 But the doctor called me the day before and said they are sending patients out of province because the hospital is full.
00:19:05.180 And I said, is that true? And he just said no.
00:19:09.340 and I said oh my gosh
00:19:11.640 like are they trying
00:19:12.740 I mean everybody in Saskatoon
00:19:15.300 and you know the government side of
00:19:17.640 Saskatoon and Saskatchewan knows
00:19:19.680 Mark and his mission
00:19:21.800 and what he's trying to do and wake
00:19:23.700 people up to what's happening in all this
00:19:25.560 so maybe they want to silence him I don't know
00:19:27.620 and he said I don't doubt
00:19:29.760 that this is political
00:19:30.620 wow
00:19:33.880 but he said I'm not sure
00:19:35.620 he is pretty sick he's on a ventilator
00:19:37.740 he's in a coma
00:19:38.580 uh he wasn't sure if they would touch that and send a patient like that out of province
00:19:46.580 so i mean you know when it came to transport you know that he wasn't in any shape to be
00:19:52.880 transported anywhere especially on an airplane no exactly so that's why the doctor said i i don't
00:20:00.900 worry too much about him being sent out because of the state that he's in so i was kind of
00:20:06.520 I wasn't worried at that point because I thought in my to myself that's that's the craziest thing
00:20:13.880 that would ever happen in my lifetime if they do that so but the morning after they called
00:20:21.420 and they said we're sending Mark out of province he's going to go to Toronto and I just broke down
00:20:28.140 and I and Sean took over the phone and he said can she at least come and hold his hand
00:20:32.460 before you guys take him, you know, off.
00:20:35.780 And they said, no, he's already on the stretcher
00:20:38.340 and is on his way into the ambulance.
00:20:42.060 So he's already sort of gone.
00:20:45.040 So that was just, I knew they are killing him.
00:20:50.660 They are seriously killing him.
00:20:53.300 So, but having said that, when he came to Toronto,
00:20:55.680 he took a turn for the worse,
00:20:57.300 which he absolutely couldn't afford
00:20:59.580 because he was so sick to start with.
00:21:01.720 but he came to a much better hospital and the doctor one of the doctors that oversaw him and
00:21:09.880 his situation was one of the world's you know renowned you know doctors on lung stuff so
00:21:17.920 they didn't swing him back immediately but I think that as bad as it was to send him out
00:21:26.260 i think that saved his life in the end i heard that seven patients were sent and i mean how
00:21:34.420 overcrowded is a hospital when seven people are sent out they couldn't find room for seven patients
00:21:41.640 well not just that but all the way to toronto i mean there was nothing in calgary there was
00:21:46.480 nothing in edmonton there was nothing in winnipeg regina i don't know where the others were sent
00:21:51.780 but i know that uh five of the patients they sent out died one i don't know about and mark
00:22:01.820 was able to come back you know it's amazing how many people during this time right like the 2021
00:22:10.640 22 they would recognize me from the show i'd be sitting in a restaurant or something they'd walk
00:22:18.420 up and they'd start telling me a story very similar to that one where um my wife had to go
00:22:25.540 to the hospital because she got sick and they were trying to kill her it seemed like they were trying
00:22:30.560 to murder her right and without an advocate somebody like yourself or sean i mean it's quite
00:22:39.280 possible they would have just done them in and you wonder did these people even understand what
00:22:45.880 they were doing with the treatment protocols at the time i mean they must have seen the remdesivir
00:22:51.160 and and all of the the drugs and the ventilators that they were putting people on was causing
00:22:57.040 damage more damage than they had initially yeah but i do believe that there are so many doctors
00:23:05.620 and nurses and people in the hospital that have no idea they do what they're told and they had no
00:23:13.680 idea what these ventilators cause and they don't know what remdesivir cause. They see people that
00:23:21.700 are opposing all of these things as you guys are crazy. Like we need to, we need to get rid of you 0.99
00:23:28.460 guys because we're trying to save lives here. You know, I think there are so many good people
00:23:34.640 working in hospitals, both doctors and nurses, but they are almost like robots. They are just
00:23:40.320 doing what they're told and um you know i think that's very very dangerous they need to start
00:23:47.920 waking up to things and and look into things and research like we do i'm not a doctor but i can
00:23:53.560 do my research enough to know that there's a different side at least to what you're saying
00:23:59.040 so maybe start questioning things you know so it's interesting to me that these people are that way
00:24:05.820 and that they don't look into things a bit more.
00:24:08.120 And maybe it's a combination of fear and avarice.
00:24:11.640 I don't know.
00:24:12.780 I think also, you know, they go to school
00:24:15.800 and they are told from day one of medical school
00:24:18.740 that we treat symptoms.
00:24:22.040 Don't ask questions.
00:24:24.120 All the medications, you know,
00:24:25.960 we have this medication for this
00:24:27.580 and this medication for that.
00:24:29.200 That's what you give.
00:24:30.080 If there's a patient coming to you
00:24:31.480 and they say we have this and this issue,
00:24:33.120 this is the medication that you prescribe.
00:24:35.820 And then they don't question anything.
00:24:38.840 I don't know if that is years.
00:24:42.440 What is it?
00:24:43.000 Seven years reading to be a doctor.
00:24:46.200 And they are just that whole system teaching you to be a doctor is so corrupt, too.
00:24:53.360 From from the beginning, from the get go, from the first page of a book. 0.64
00:24:57.920 Ever since the Rockefellers took over all the medical schools or was it the Rothschilds? 0.79
00:25:02.360 Either one of those two. 0.91
00:25:03.340 they they did it and they started introducing big pharma into it and now we have robots coming out
00:25:08.860 of medical school these are post-actual healers right but then you have those that have a little
00:25:13.700 bigger heart a little bit more they haven't lost all the you know personality in all this and they
00:25:19.800 do realize that there's a bigger you know platform that we can work on here because there's something
00:25:26.960 called you know and people have a tendency to say alternative medicine but it's not alternative it's
00:25:32.700 the natural medicine that we're supposed to have as human beings you know i agree yeah so i mean
00:25:38.980 yeah all the medications is just like calling uh the fire department saying that my alarm is going
00:25:45.720 off and my house is burning and then they come out and they just shut off the alarm and says now
00:25:49.720 everything's good yeah without finding out why it's yeah what about that no but now you don't
00:25:56.500 have to be worried about it because now you don't hear the alarm anymore that's what medication is
00:26:00.820 doing to us that's a very good analogy so let's go back to toronto you said that he got better
00:26:06.980 out there because it was a better hospital and i know that he did because i'd heard about this
00:26:12.380 you know through friends and through some posts by you and by mark that he had recovered from
00:26:19.260 this induced coma they put him into in toronto yeah well he didn't recover right he was there
00:26:27.120 but he didn't come home till, I think it was November 15th.
00:26:32.540 Yeah, it wasn't quick, but he did manage to recover
00:26:36.360 because I spoke to him a lot after that as well.
00:26:39.020 He was coughing a lot, but I did speak to him.
00:26:43.100 So can you take us quickly through that?
00:26:45.480 Yeah, so they were able to get the infection in his body down
00:26:50.820 um and they started working uh after a while to to try to get him out of the coma and and awaken
00:27:01.500 off the ventilator of course but at least get him shallow enough so he could breathe with the
00:27:07.020 ventilator and start coming out of the coma slowly but surely kind of thing he refused to
00:27:13.200 breathe with so when they take a person out of coma that is on a ventilator they need them to
00:27:19.440 breathe in the rhythm that the ventilator is giving you you know so you have to get into that
00:27:25.280 he refused to do that um i think five the fifth time well not stubborn at all um
00:27:35.920 but i think it was about to say the same thing i'm glad you said it
00:27:40.480 um but the fifth time they tried they were able to to get him uh shallow and out of the coma and
00:27:46.960 and he was breathing with the machine.
00:27:48.620 So I cannot tell you exactly how many days he was on the ventilator
00:27:53.140 while he was out of the coma, but at least a few.
00:27:57.980 So you were talking to the doctors, I'm sure, on a daily basis.
00:28:03.040 Were they, and the nurses, were they surprised when he came out of this?
00:28:10.080 Because you had mentioned that, you know,
00:28:11.680 of the people who were transported out of the province,
00:28:14.680 seven of them, five of them died.
00:28:16.240 but i don't know how sick they were or i don't think they were on ventilators you know but this
00:28:22.360 is just me assuming i don't think that they if they're going to send seven people out of province
00:28:27.220 are they going to send seven people that are the sickest ones you know they had they had a whole
00:28:33.580 unit that was called like i said copa nycobic cabana and uh that's where they had all the
00:28:40.260 covid patients so that's why i asked the doctor when he when i heard that they were sending him
00:28:46.160 out of province i said is this politically driven at all and he said you know we have and he said i
00:28:52.320 don't doubt it because we have no say me as this doctor i have no say and if and who who goes so
00:28:59.480 what happens is they take a journal that we send it to the saskatchewan health whatever it's called
00:29:06.420 health system or whatever and they decide based on and these aren't even like they might have a
00:29:13.100 doctor on that panel but i mean who better can tell how a patient is than the the doctor that
00:29:22.020 is bedside with a patient so here you have a just a little group of people that is going to decide
00:29:28.760 who's going to go out of province and not based on a piece of paper in their hand and they've
00:29:33.380 never seen him no no no no and that's why i said is this politically driven they see his name on
00:29:39.040 that journal and that's when he said i don't doubt it but i don't know like they sent i guess well
00:29:45.080 they sent seven others or six others except for mark so i don't know well the reason i ask is
00:29:52.440 because once they put you on a ventilator the statistics were they went right down yeah and
00:29:58.760 most of the people who were put on those things died and mark didn't and so that's why i ask
00:30:06.420 you know were the medical team around him were they shocked when he came out of this like
00:30:12.320 i think that i i can't say and when i and when you say that i talk to the doctors daily i didn't
00:30:19.060 because sean was out there in toronto with him okay you know so he was sort of that and i was so
00:30:24.920 i had been so sick for so long and i was so beside myself of you know worry and all these things so
00:30:32.120 so basically sean was that that person that was talking to the doctor so i i can only guess you
00:30:39.500 know and my guess would be that i guess they've seen everything so i don't i can't tell you in
00:30:44.680 this in this situation if they were or not in hindsight i think mark has proven how strong
00:30:54.620 he is both mentally and physically um to both doctors and and you know anyone who has you know
00:31:02.520 talked to him since and he was back traveling canada in 22 you know when he was still recovering
00:31:08.080 he got so sick on one of the tours that he was with laura lynn and you know a couple others and
00:31:13.780 he had to stay back in in ottawa in in a hotel room all by himself because he got sick again
00:31:19.520 and he was so sick he couldn't even travel home were there any costs put to you and mark
00:31:26.320 over the these flights and any other extra medical care over and above no nothing and they actually
00:31:34.020 flew sean out there for free because they said he there's one person that can go with him i had to
00:31:40.380 take over marks or our company mark's company um and i had to keep that going and we have dogs and
00:31:48.700 everything so i had to keep you know the yeah i had to hold the fort down at home so um so sean
00:31:57.120 is the one that got that free ticket and he also got paid um a little bit of money for for food
00:32:03.440 every day so all that was taken care of so i'm really thankful and happy for that let's talk
00:32:09.240 about he wasn't able to get back home again sean because he couldn't fly back home because by then
00:32:16.260 you had to have a vaccine or something to come back home so he had to drive home so he actually
00:32:22.140 hitchhiked basically all the way back to hitchhike that's a two-day drive it's insane i'm sure it
00:32:28.160 wasn't with the same person the entire way that must be a story yeah i think they did it and
00:32:33.200 yeah it's all sort of like a relay interesting too you know i've heard uh mark talk about
00:32:41.500 freedom convoy and wishing so much that he could have been there but he was just too ill
00:32:48.080 with because he was on oxygen for a long time right his lungs were had taken a beating you
00:32:58.300 wouldn't believe and he sat there and i he said i i need to go and i said if you do that 0.99
00:33:04.120 i might as well just kill you now i will absolutely divorce you you better not i said 0.99
00:33:13.780 what you have been through and what we have been through for you to jeopardize your health again 1.00
00:33:19.620 this quickly because you are so pulled to go to that i understand it must hurt so much i said but
00:33:29.140 you are that's over my dead body that you're gonna go but yet i mean so and that's winter
00:33:35.860 and it was minus 40 and and it was cold everywhere yeah uh but not much longer after that maybe in
00:33:42.780 the spring or summer he was out with laura lynn doing more more touring and more i mean
00:33:46.360 did he improve that quickly he did improve really quickly they actually said to me
00:33:51.940 when he came back to saskatoon i walked in the room five minutes after they had wheeled him in
00:34:01.260 there and he turned to me and he said there's my baby and i thought that he would be completely
00:34:07.380 out of it and i just broke down and cried and they said to me i talked to the doctor just shortly
00:34:14.900 after and he said you're probably looking at him being in the hospital till spring
00:34:19.780 uh because he has been through so much like he had two blood clots one in each lung
00:34:26.860 on the size of an orange well so and he had necrotizing pneumonia that is pneumonia that
00:34:36.660 kind of eats away you know the lungs so even at that point they weren't sure if he was going to
00:34:44.140 bounce all the way back they they said he might be on oxygen for the rest of his life we don't know
00:34:48.820 but he was he bounced back really really quick but he's also the kind of dude that will
00:34:55.980 jeopardize like like i said he wanted to go to to this convoy so he would he would jeopardize his
00:35:03.300 own health he will put himself second and third and fourth if he could just perform and do what
00:35:10.360 he is like he like he felt he was called to do this and i never stood in the way of him doing
00:35:18.600 that because i i knew how important it was not just for mark but for everybody in canada everybody
00:35:26.060 in the world that would ever listen to any of these freedom fighters you know so i would never
00:35:32.440 ever stand in the way and i'm you know i i'm i don't do this very often to be you know there
00:35:39.460 has been a couple that has asked me i'm pretty camera shy you know i'm a musician i sing i can
00:35:45.520 be on stage in front of thousands of people i don't care about that i'm not shy i just don't
00:35:49.940 like the camera so you know what i'll tell you i'm going to tell the audience right now that
00:35:53.960 we've been working on setting this up for weeks maybe even months and we finally made it happen
00:36:01.440 today so i'm very happy and thankful for that about the business keeping the business going
00:36:07.240 well mark was out uh sick in toronto and there's people who don't know i mean he's an arborist
00:36:14.920 right he you guys had a tree business yeah i would say yeah so i had to keep that going and
00:36:22.100 i was talking to customers all day long um mark's sons um are both climbers so they they work for
00:36:29.860 the company as climbers and I couldn't even tell them all the details that I knew from day to day
00:36:37.780 because what they do is such dangerous work I couldn't have them up in a tree with a chainsaw
00:36:44.120 in their hand thinking about you know how close he was to dying so I didn't give them all the
00:36:51.000 information that I got and that I had to sort of deal with and oh my goodness be careful
00:36:58.200 so um and i was talking to customers and setting everything up and i was crying to all of them and
00:37:05.960 there i don't think there was a single customer that didn't understand the situation but i was
00:37:11.280 crying i i am a really emotional person i'm a strong person but i'm also emotional i'm i'm a
00:37:18.000 leo and they are strong but also very emotional so and i'm not scared of showing that i cry and
00:37:24.620 And it's just, you know, it's not the coolest thing for a tree company customer to sit and listen to a person on the other end, setting up their date for taking down a tree while they're crying.
00:37:37.540 like but it was what it was and everybody was so understanding because most of the customers that
00:37:46.420 we had and had been customers that you know mark had had you know done several jobs for and they
00:37:55.120 were all just saying we're we're praying for him and you know so lots of love from all of those
00:38:00.420 as well how long did were you able to keep that going I mean Mark went on tours we know
00:38:07.160 speaking tours speaking engagements he got sick again I'm gonna say like the current situation
00:38:14.160 about maybe a year year and a half ago it started to happen so there was some time in between where
00:38:21.020 the business started to go down like could you take yeah so he the whole of 22 he was back traveling
00:38:29.260 again and the company was bleeding but at that point I had also you know understood a little bit
00:38:34.880 more of how to handle things so I could I could help out more but then in 23 he you know we shut
00:38:43.580 down in the winter so in in the spring of 23 when we sort of opened the business up again and they
00:38:49.420 started working Mark wanted to just take care of things himself which was okay so I helped out with
00:38:57.840 a few things but then little by little in no this wasn't in so what are we now 26 so yeah okay so
00:39:08.740 24 is when he ended up in the hospital again but the year before that so they um I would say
00:39:15.900 Christmas of 23 is when I noticed that something was really off like Mark we had the whole family
00:39:23.600 over his daughter and boyfriend and both the sons and Mark's mom.
00:39:28.900 And we were sitting after we had Christmas dinner.
00:39:32.420 Mark loved, you know, to get to the point where we could sit
00:39:36.160 and play board games and just visit and, you know, be a family and have fun.
00:39:40.800 He just got up from the table and went somewhere.
00:39:43.780 And I'm thinking he's going to the bathroom or something.
00:39:45.860 But he went away and didn't come back.
00:39:48.500 So I go and look for him.
00:39:49.840 And I found him downstairs in front of the TV.
00:39:52.080 so i think at some point or some part of him couldn't keep up socially so he just
00:39:59.680 kind of withdrew that was the weirdest thing i said mark we have a house full of people you gotta
00:40:05.780 what's happening you're saying that that was the first time something like that had ever happened
00:40:11.000 he was always engaged with the family it functions like that all the time yeah but backing up to the
00:40:17.480 summer of 23 mark came to me no he he i had just listened to a podcast from norway about scamming
00:40:30.200 and scams and how brilliant these scammers are and how they trick people into all sorts of things
00:40:36.880 then mark comes to me and he tells me that he has done this investment with you know whatever and i
00:40:43.460 said mark you're describing what i just heard from this podcast this is a scam and he said you're
00:40:49.840 gonna eat those words because no this is not a scam and this is something he never would have
00:40:54.480 done before like he could sniff those scams out for you know million miles away yeah so i said
00:41:01.940 well this is this is bothering me mark because so i started you know gathering uh all sorts of
00:41:08.820 evidence and sent it to him and little by little he understood okay this is this gap i'm being set
00:41:14.340 up here so he tried to get out of that and he you know he had already given i don't know how much
00:41:20.140 money and i had so i and i had no idea how bad things were um and then you mean with the company
00:41:28.180 or with this scam or everything all together financially because he was doing you know freedom
00:41:33.600 work and and then these I think that he understood that you know financially my my company is
00:41:41.580 bleeding so much that I need to find alternative ways of keeping everything afloat and he's always
00:41:47.220 been the the person that takes pride in taking care of everybody I think that I don't know if
00:41:52.120 you can relate to that being adopted but we have talked about these things
00:41:55.940 Okay, just walk more.
00:41:59.420 So he's very much a person that he doesn't like to be pushed away.
00:42:09.000 And he's doing everything without being a people pleaser.
00:42:12.200 Because he will never say just yes to anything and everything.
00:42:14.960 But he is very, it's important for him to take care of the people around him.
00:42:22.180 So I think that he saw at some point that things are going sideways.
00:42:25.940 much because of he had done so much work with the freedom type work you know that everything was
00:42:31.300 bleeding and he knew that you know my wife and everything at home i have to find a seamless way
00:42:37.320 of fixing this so i think that that was when uh these scams came in just at sort of the wrong
00:42:44.380 time for him but well he was looking for something to maybe recoup yeah yeah so anyway um then come
00:42:53.420 November of 23. And we were sitting in the truck. And he said to me, listen to this, he said, and he
00:42:59.900 played me a voice message. And I said, What is that? And he said, Oh, you can't hear who it is.
00:43:08.840 And I said, No, it's Elon Musk. And I said, Are you saying that Elon Musk has left you a message
00:43:16.700 on your phone? And he said, Yeah, I've been working with him for a while now on some investments.
00:43:21.340 and i just died i just completely died and i said mark it doesn't even sound like him
00:43:26.520 i understand that ai can do lots of you know voice um you know what i mean you know
00:43:33.860 some makes it make it sound like a person and all that stuff but i said this doesn't even this this
00:43:39.580 is bad work because it doesn't even sound like him and then he said well you obviously don't
00:43:44.200 know what he sounds like that mark has already gotten sick at this point and i had no idea
00:43:48.660 but you obviously suspected because he was not himself and everything else shadow everything
00:43:57.580 else remember you know to me if i was thinking if he's getting sick if this can be dementia
00:44:03.620 alzheimer's or something like his memory was still so good like he could remember we could
00:44:11.040 meet a person and he would remember that name two days later when i asked him and i didn't even
00:44:16.840 remember the name of the person you know what this sounds like to me i mean like i'm not gonna
00:44:21.820 obviously diagnose anything here i'm not a doctor but when you you know i've been through an
00:44:26.880 experience kind of like this before in a haunted house where you're in this house and you see
00:44:34.080 something and you go that's not right right but you go you can't put the thing you yeah yeah like
00:44:42.240 it like what and it takes a while before you actually start to realize inside yeah oh my god
00:44:47.900 like i gotta do something about this right so what other ways did this illness start manifesting
00:44:55.740 itself after that less social buried in his phone all day long and yeah they fed you ketamine
00:45:07.060 um he's standing right here saying um but yeah so
00:45:12.700 the the type and I didn't know this because like I said to me dementia and Alzheimer's because I
00:45:21.620 thought maybe it could be something like that but that to me is memory and like I said his memory
00:45:27.060 was not affected at all so just more i wouldn't say aggressive but more moody and he started
00:45:40.980 actually saying even on the phone to his um tree whisper like the company uh the clients
00:45:50.500 and the customers that they were wrong like you didn't
00:45:55.060 you didn't pay me for the job yesterday and then i hear the customer says yes i sent you
00:46:03.660 an e-transfer just after the boys left no you haven't paid and i'm thinking mark you can't talk
00:46:10.240 to your customers like this if there's a problem figure it out like you always do you always sit
00:46:15.400 back and he's always chill and he's always you know but little by little did I hear that you
00:46:22.120 know there was no patience when he was talking to his clients and just one second I have a dog
00:46:30.260 with a toy on the floor so this is my every day so anyway I had to take over lots of times when
00:46:41.080 he was on the phone with a customer I had to actually grab the phone and say hey let me figure
00:46:45.860 this out and get back to you we're gonna we're gonna find a way to you know solve this don't
00:46:50.320 worry and Mark would be angry with me because I took over but I said Mark you cannot treat your
00:46:55.820 customers like that and Mark had he's never treated anyone the way I heard him talk to people
00:47:02.120 so and again I was scared out of my mind because I'm thinking what's going on with Mark something
00:47:07.740 is changing and I have no idea what I'm dealing with here so little by little I had to take over
00:47:13.220 everything like and then he got sick in the summer of 2024 with pneumonia again and ended up in the
00:47:23.040 hospital and the decline was like it just went right down I talked to the doctor in the hospital
00:47:28.480 and I said what is this what's going on because he has his memory is good and everything and it's
00:47:35.400 just like i i don't understand and then he said this sounds to me like a micro stroke if anything
00:47:42.700 so i said okay that makes more sense um and they give me a little bit of relief because i'm thinking
00:47:48.660 if this is something like a brain damage or something that can't be fixed then i i didn't
00:47:56.080 know you know but when he said stroke like a micro stroke then i'm thinking um that can be
00:48:03.620 fixed you know i'm not scared of that so that was in summer of yeah so he was in the hospital for
00:48:12.020 almost three weeks he came out he was still on on oxygen and um for a while but then his decline
00:48:21.460 mentally was so obvious um at that point it just took a big crash at that stage yeah yeah and i
00:48:31.460 think that that had something to do with the lack of oxygen again before he was in before he got
00:48:37.700 into the hospital because it was almost as low as it was the first time i had i i found him in the
00:48:43.580 morning because he had started coughing and i paid attention because of course super scared every time
00:48:49.060 he was coughing i was like oh so i came in i watched him that night when he started the
00:48:55.100 coughing and in the morning i i was in measuring his oxygen at night it was fine then but in the
00:49:01.020 morning it was down to i think 80 or something and i said mark i woke him up and i said mark
00:49:06.060 i need to get you to you know i need to call an ambulance and he said okay like what can we do
00:49:14.400 we gotta do what we gotta do so and then they got him into the hospital and the same thing again
00:49:20.960 tried to saturate the oxygen and all that but he bounced back faster um oxygen wise and all that
00:49:27.280 but he was on oxygen for a while after he came out of the hospital then too but like like I said
00:49:33.380 his mental decline was just but I still didn't know what I was dealing with I still had no idea
00:49:39.800 I'm like okay if this is a stroke what do I do and then his heart um started you know he was an
00:49:46.920 afib and all sorts of weird things was happening to his heart so we got referred to a heart doctor
00:49:54.880 or a cardiologist we still haven't heard from them a year and a half almost yeah still and and it was
00:50:03.800 kind of urgent and they just put him on a medication that they thought well fingers crossed
00:50:09.740 we'll just hope this helps like what blood thinners or something it was a it's a metoprolol
00:50:15.720 which is something that lowers your heartbeat you know because they were so rapid so that that
00:50:23.080 happened actually the first time he was in the hospital too after he got a little bit better and
00:50:27.840 they said okay we're gonna try to give him a shower today and so his first shower in the hospital
00:50:33.240 and they came and I was in the room waiting for him and the nurses came back with him all the
00:50:38.560 nurses were completely pale and Mark was just like I had a shower that's awesome and I look at
00:50:46.580 the nurses and I said what's wrong and one nurse came over to me and said his heart went to two
00:50:52.660 hundred and seventy five we thought it was going to explode this dude is the strongest we've ever
00:51:00.300 seen like it's just insanity she said and i of course broke down and started crying and thinking
00:51:05.680 okay now he has a heart problem too but it was fine until again until he got in the hospital
00:51:11.560 again in 2024 so he's been on medication for the longest time and then i saw strange things and i
00:51:18.500 could not get a hold of the doctor the the what's it called the doctor that sort of releases them
00:51:25.540 from hospital couldn't get a hold of him attending the attending yeah um discharging this okay
00:51:32.660 discharge so so i had to take his medication and half it because his heartbeats were so low
00:51:40.780 that i was scared that now it's going to be a problem the other way i have no one to help me
00:51:46.060 I can't get a hold of anyone I'm trying my hardest to get a hold of you know I called several times
00:51:51.080 to the hospital even to the room that he was in and I said just give me the first freaking doctor
00:51:55.900 you can find because I need to know what I can do with this medication because now instead of being
00:52:01.380 rapid his heart his heartbeats are so low that I think he's gonna crash um nobody could answer me
00:52:09.020 anything and so I just decided to half his dose of medication not knowing if that was something
00:52:15.160 that was gonna have any you know side effects from what i know i didn't know and i got a hold
00:52:22.100 of his doctor two weeks later he had been on vacation and nobody could step in for him i guess
00:52:26.780 and he said well done i'm very very happy that you did took that decision and made it and i said
00:52:34.000 yeah okay i could equally have been wrong doctor exactly i'm not a doctor and nobody in the system
00:52:42.560 could help me like that is absolutely outrageous and at this point he's completely off the
00:52:48.420 medication not because i have talked to any other doctors again about this because i can't get a
00:52:53.240 hold of any so i have taken him off because i have been monitoring his heart all the time and i've
00:52:58.440 been monitoring his oxygen so i mean here we are we've got to fend for one another and ourselves
00:53:05.380 in this system like i couldn't get any help so he laughed at me when i called the cardiologist's
00:53:11.520 office. And I said, that was after, I think, around five, six months. And I said, I'm still
00:53:17.580 waiting for my husband to get in, because he has a heart problem. And they have just put him on some
00:53:23.340 temporary medication that is they hope it's going to work till he gets in to check what's going on
00:53:29.560 with his heart. And she started laughing. And she said, we have people that have been in line sort
00:53:36.280 to get in with us for over a year so you know don't come here and come here after just five
00:53:43.100 six months so when did the when did the business just go away i needed to i was trying for the
00:53:54.100 longest time the boys were climbing i was trying to you know take when i saw how mark was dealing
00:54:00.280 with things um trying to take over but i saw that this is i can't do this without mark like it's
00:54:06.020 completely impossible so little by little i had to just shut things down the boys didn't work
00:54:11.120 enough just find some paper somewhere else the boys wasn't working enough so they had to seek
00:54:16.420 work elsewhere because they had to live as well you know so then everything started bleeding and
00:54:23.360 that was in well late 20 no early early well late 23 early 24 and so since then
00:54:34.700 you really haven't had any kind of source of income because you haven't been able to get on
00:54:41.800 any kind of programs medical or provincial or federal no so
00:54:47.920 and then so i'm thinking okay mark i need to i talked to a bankruptcy
00:54:56.640 lawyer and i said we need to just shut things down mark has too much uh debt uh because of the
00:55:06.160 scams you know that they had take like they had done so i think it was almost 60 000
00:55:13.760 that he had you know credits from banks and all that stuff because and pushing the money into
00:55:20.080 these scams because he thought this is going to fix it you know i need to be out there doing
00:55:24.420 freedom fighting work and my my business will survive with me just you know tapping into it
00:55:31.880 once in a blue moon but of course it wasn't but his mental capacity was diminished also
00:55:36.600 he's not thinking clearly exactly like he like i said he would never ever fall for a scam
00:55:43.000 right and let alone give them that much money so anyway and then that debt that he had that i
00:55:51.340 didn't even know about that he had just pushed in a corner because he's like yeah well I need to go
00:55:57.000 to this event and I need to be you know into PPC and I need to go on these tours with anyone and
00:56:04.400 everyone and it's like and I had no idea I thought he had control but he didn't and so in the
00:56:11.080 beginning when I was understood how sick he was I thought it was really like a deep depression
00:56:15.940 when I understood you know how bad things were financially so I talked to this bankruptcy dude
00:56:24.360 and he said well you're gonna lose basically everything and I said as long as I don't lose
00:56:31.820 my dogs and my husband and you know our lives then I'll do whatever so yeah that was Mark's
00:56:41.420 childhood home and i tried my best to keep it for as long as possible but if i if i was gonna
00:56:47.220 you know do the bankruptcy then i had to get rid of everything so
00:56:51.000 and so you lost your your home yeah we well we lost mark's childhood home but i was able to sell
00:57:02.220 it and thank god because that is money that we have without that money that we had extra after
00:57:08.260 we paid because that was another thing they called me from the bank saying we and this was in november
00:57:13.860 of 23 yeah november of 23 they called and said uh we need the the full mortgage paid by december
00:57:23.780 6 or something and i said what i said you just yeah things can't get worse now so whatever so
00:57:32.100 i called the bank back again and i cried and i said you guys have to give me an extension because
00:57:38.260 I need to see if I can sell the house.
00:57:40.860 I mean, I don't want it to go to foreclosure and not have any of the equity coming, you know, out.
00:57:46.900 So I was able to get that.
00:57:50.660 And then I said to the bankruptcy dude that we need to, you know, do the bankruptcy for Mark.
00:57:58.620 And he said, well, then if you do the bankruptcy and not sell the house first, you're going to lose all the equity.
00:58:10.220 So that means pack up and sell now.
00:58:13.520 In the middle of winter, we moved.
00:58:16.400 I had friends helping me every Saturday.
00:58:18.460 I want to give a big shout out to Jake and Lynette and their daughter and Daniel and Bob.
00:58:25.620 Those people helped us every Saturday, getting things out of the house and into storage.
00:58:34.620 And I packed up the whole house myself.
00:58:38.620 I had my friend Linda help me one day, other than that, and dealing with something I didn't know what was going on with Mark.
00:58:48.620 It's the toughest thing ever.
00:58:50.620 And then moving everything in minus 40, twice.
00:58:54.620 First, out of the house, and then into the new place.
00:58:59.220 So, all during winter.
00:59:02.580 Wow.
00:59:03.440 I'm a Viking.
00:59:04.620 I'm tough.
00:59:05.400 I really am tough, but I really...
00:59:07.600 But as you're doing all of this, I mean, Mark wasn't really able to help much, was he?
00:59:13.200 He didn't help at all.
00:59:13.820 He sat in front of the TV, and he said, I don't want to move.
00:59:18.060 I don't want to lose my childhood home, and he was just crying.
00:59:20.720 And I said, Mark, we don't have a chance to keep this house.
00:59:24.300 we can't so were you able to pay everything off and maybe have a little bit extra after
00:59:31.980 the bankruptcy action i paid as much as i could and um the rest of the bankruptcy
00:59:39.560 had to take care of and the the little we had that you know of cash extra was money that we
00:59:46.380 lived off of and you know paying bills and and you know mark's accountant that had done all his
00:59:55.360 paperwork i owed her like i don't know six seven thousand so all together so i had to pay those
01:00:04.320 and it's just been things surfacing all the time and i am not a person i am not high maintenance
01:00:14.500 when it comes to i don't need anything you know i i haven't even been to the hairdresser since
01:00:21.640 before but i mean so i can do without and i don't have the long beautiful nails and all that stuff
01:00:29.740 so i mean i i will get by on very little but i needed to know that mark got the right supplements
01:00:36.560 and i needed to know that my dogs was were fed and there were days where i didn't eat actually
01:00:44.320 Not that I actually couldn't stand losing a few pounds anyways from before, but cortisol, high cortisol and stress, those things to your body, that is just insane.
01:00:55.180 I know that, I mean, just from listening to you, it sounds like you've learned even more how to stretch a buck, considering all of this inflation going on around us and how tough it's gotten for so many more people.
01:01:09.180 I mean, I've been through that myself.
01:01:11.280 I go through it every month.
01:01:12.800 Yeah.
01:01:13.280 So I totally understand how it is.
01:01:16.240 It's not knowing if you're going to be able to pay the next month's bills and all that.
01:01:21.220 And I'm fine as long as bills are paid and all that.
01:01:25.820 But, you know, I didn't know.
01:01:27.060 So that has caused so much stress on top of everything.
01:01:30.180 So you've got a fund going on.
01:01:32.760 It's a give, send, go, right?
01:01:34.420 Yeah.
01:01:35.360 Yeah.
01:01:35.720 Someone told me we had to go fund me.
01:01:38.060 but someone told me to change it to give send go because they said it's a you know after the
01:01:44.220 truckers convoy yep so many people didn't want to you know contribute to the give send go not to
01:01:49.740 the go fund me yeah yeah so you've got that up we're gonna put that up in into the comments as
01:01:56.120 well and did you get the website finished is that happening misty wind also a freedom fighter has
01:02:04.340 been helping she is in thailand she hasn't been in thailand a couple months and um she has been
01:02:09.280 finishing the website from there and um it's a very simple um website at this point it's going
01:02:18.680 to be a working progress for a while yet to come um but it's called markmymind.ca and
01:02:26.580 I have some I tweaked his what's it called the the grizzly patriot hat yes so it used to be
01:02:36.980 you know white black and red and I have now made it into black and white and purple which is you
01:02:45.280 know the the color for dementia awareness and Alzheimer's awareness so and then I added a
01:02:52.380 ribbon to it and it says underneath the logo it says let's remember meaning let's remember mark
01:02:58.500 let's remember the grizzly uh let's also prevent and and live so that we don't get into a position
01:03:06.560 where we we get dementia you know well i mean this was his previous medical condition a
01:03:13.320 contributor to his current condition now like do you know any of that yet have you been able to
01:03:18.240 I have no idea in February 2024 is when Mark was diagnosed with frontotemporal dementia we went to
01:03:27.680 a neurologist finally got in with a neurologist he checked Mark out for 20 minutes and he turns
01:03:33.980 to me and he said this is frontotemporal dementia there's nothing you can do I'm so sorry
01:03:38.000 I waited to hear what more he had to say and then he said I need to see how he's walking so he took
01:03:45.240 mark out in the hallway and he walked came back in and he said i'm sorry so i said okay so we're
01:03:53.580 done here then and he said yes what what what was the walking is there a telltale yeah there's a
01:03:59.580 movement that to see i think that has something to do with seeing how far it has progressed too
01:04:06.840 because it is affecting you know mobility and stuff like that as well not that i know all of
01:04:12.720 these things but yeah so he wanted to just check out those things as well um and just before we go
01:04:19.260 i said i turned to him and i said so you you never talked to patients about you know changing their
01:04:24.100 diet eating clean cutting sugar cutting carbs um you know maybe try the carnivore diet have you
01:04:32.080 heard of that these doctors don't they don't they think that's all like you're being kind of
01:04:38.440 a little obnoxious here now goodbye and then i don't want to say anything bad about you know
01:04:47.780 people because but he was referred to an mri he they needed to have an mri and then they wouldn't
01:04:54.220 wanted to do um i guess they call it a pep scan but i read about those scans and they're so full
01:05:01.220 of radiation. And Mark had already been through so many CTs. And his, his body had been through
01:05:09.660 so much that I said, I don't want to do this scan. I don't need to know exactly where in the head
01:05:15.340 this sits or whatever this is showing. Do the MRI, that's fine. But I don't want him to have this
01:05:21.200 scan. Well, then the doctor will probably not see you again. And I said, but we're going to do the
01:05:29.260 MRI yeah well he wants the results for both these um tests before he wants to see you guys so I
01:05:38.920 actually called after he had had the MRI and I said can I not get the result no he wants you
01:05:44.700 he wants Mark to have that other test as well and I said but are you guys trying to force me into
01:05:50.860 having making my husband take this test I don't want him to have it because it's such it's so
01:05:55.460 much radiation i don't want his body to go go through more than it has to at this point um
01:06:01.820 but so i called mark's doctor which is also a you know he's on the right side of things and
01:06:07.880 he he gave me the answers for the mri it didn't show anything crazy other than there was a little
01:06:15.080 bit of shrinkage of the brain so but um i did set up i had to call back to this doctor and
01:06:22.960 or the office and set up a new time to get in with this doctor.
01:06:27.800 But at the same time, I was kind of hesitant because I'm thinking,
01:06:30.220 what can he do?
01:06:31.380 He's going to probably say, oh, you're going to have to give him this
01:06:34.540 and this medication.
01:06:35.380 And it's not going to happen.
01:06:36.240 He's not going to be on medication for this.
01:06:38.240 If anything, he's going to be on cleansers and detoxes and supplements
01:06:42.340 that is, you know, giving all these nutrients back.
01:06:46.100 And I am also now in a dialogue with a doctor in Moose Jaw.
01:06:51.500 he's he's um seen one um physician in uh in moose jaw from before but this one is a real
01:06:59.560 doctor and medical doctor but he's also very much from what i understand awake and he has
01:07:07.140 they have more or less now agreed to take mark on for free because they he's in moose jaw
01:07:15.660 Dr. Goodenow, I think is his name
01:07:18.780 And the clinic takes in patients in Moose Jaw for free
01:07:23.200 So they said to me, we understand the situation
01:07:26.060 And you're so close
01:07:27.200 Close, it's still a four hour drive
01:07:30.600 Or maybe three
01:07:31.700 Yeah, two or two and a half
01:07:33.380 But if you have someone in Moose Jaw
01:07:37.100 That can lend you their address
01:07:39.140 Then we can put him under that
01:07:42.200 So we'll start treating him for free
01:07:44.100 And I'm like, oh, my goodness gracious. And this doctor has reversed Alzheimer's and dementia and has amazing results with not just Alzheimer's and dementia.
01:07:53.760 I understand that he has been such a humongous help to so many people.
01:07:58.440 And he's dealing with supplements, not medications. And they also do some some sort of treatments that is sort of cutting edge from what I understand.
01:08:07.560 So I don't know much about it yet because I just started the dialogue and just got word that we can probably do this for you guys.
01:08:17.480 You've got to make sure because there's a lot of people who are genuinely concerned about you and Mark.
01:08:26.620 And we need to know what's happening.
01:08:29.220 And I totally understand that it's difficult for you to go public with much of this.
01:08:35.200 um uh it almost seems this is what i want to do with that website though i just want that so this
01:08:43.280 website at some point when misty is back home and i hopefully she can help me but she says the next
01:08:48.020 step in this in this website is um a members platform because i want to get rid of as you know
01:08:55.660 there's so many people that love mark and um but there are equally many just as many that hates him
01:09:01.860 for what he's done.
01:09:03.100 You know, that is just you, I guess you go through this daily yourself.
01:09:07.380 So you know that.
01:09:08.600 So I want to get rid of, I don't think that there are any of Mark's haters
01:09:14.580 and the trolls out there that will pay a membership fee
01:09:17.920 to be able to follow Mark closer than what I have been doing till now.
01:09:22.660 Because it's something about, you know, just the confidentiality of things too.
01:09:30.920 Mark is very open. He will tell you. He will be the first to tell you everything from A to Z.
01:09:36.060 And I can do that, too. But at this point, I've got to be careful because I'm speaking for him.
01:09:41.480 I just have to be careful, and I don't want to put him or myself in a position where we are being harassed.
01:09:48.380 But, I mean, I read enough emails, as it is.
01:09:52.020 You know what? There's also something to be said, Janneke, for personal dignity.
01:09:56.540 and everything that you have just said to us here today
01:10:02.040 is revealing so much
01:10:07.760 and I know how difficult it is
01:10:11.180 and will continue to be
01:10:13.480 and I appreciate that you can do this
01:10:16.800 that shows strength to me
01:10:19.720 incredible amount of strength
01:10:21.860 can you can you tell us what your daily life is like now
01:10:27.820 yeah it's um i have to be at home with mark all the time um i can maybe i can drive to the store
01:10:41.160 and be be gone maybe for an hour but we have security cameras both inside and outside so i
01:10:46.760 can follow and i'm probably logged into those as soon as i leave you know just the alley so um
01:10:53.940 it's helping mark uh first and foremost with anything and everything mark has gotten to a
01:10:59.400 point where it's uh i i have have a hard time just leaving him to eat i walk yeah you walk he loves to
01:11:07.440 walk and but he has a little bit of a problem swallowing so it's hard for me just to give him
01:11:13.980 something to eat and then walk away because there's a real choke hazard um he can't lift
01:11:21.960 his arms more than up to here so I have to help him get dressed and I have to help him shower
01:11:26.900 and Mark loves to like he just said he loves to walk um but he's also at a point where he can't
01:11:33.360 put the toque on he can't put his hoodie on and he can't you know button his jacket so I have to
01:11:39.120 up with that I also have to help take that off he doesn't cook or make any food himself anymore
01:11:46.000 and yeah other than that I'm trying to you know stimulate his brain as much as I can
01:11:53.200 but I have had CPAS at home and they're gonna see if they can get him in for a day program because
01:11:59.620 I'm I believe that people need purpose it doesn't matter how far gone the brain is if you don't have
01:12:07.680 a purpose to get out of bed then some people don't and when it's been really cold out and
01:12:13.780 mark hasn't been able to walk he is in bed and what has happened lately is that he's been sleeping
01:12:21.640 through the day it's been impossible to get him out um and then he's awake at night when when i
01:12:28.140 need sleep um and he fell twice yeah so the second time i used probably 20 minutes to get him off the
01:12:36.840 floor so at least now i know that i can call the fire department they have a you know people that
01:12:42.760 can come out and help with that but um he cracked his his eye pretty good too you showed me that
01:12:47.320 photo yes yeah he came to he came to my room at 4 a.m waking me up saying something about burning
01:12:54.420 and i said what is it burning yes okay so i jump out of bed and i ran to his room and i
01:13:03.820 look around and nothing's burning and i turned to mark and i said what nothing's but and then i saw
01:13:08.800 his eye and i'm like what in the world so of course i'm scared to death that you know um
01:13:15.960 concussion and all these things you know um so i'm monitoring him pretty closely for the next
01:13:23.280 two days uh to make sure that i don't have to drag him to the er because he's so susceptible
01:13:28.420 to all bacteria and everything and I don't need him to have another pneumonia so I'm so scared of
01:13:33.960 you know taking him to um not taking him to the ER but also you know I don't want to drag him down
01:13:41.020 there if I don't have to so anyway two days later he fell again he stumbled over the dog one of the
01:13:47.600 dogs and fell on the on the floor and um I was woken up that was also in the middle of the night
01:13:54.320 and i was woken up by actually not mark because he wouldn't call out for help he's like i'm gonna
01:13:59.860 fix this myself but i hear my dog growl and bark so i go out and i go to the kitchen and he's on
01:14:07.200 the floor squirming he can't get up because he can't use his arms so um like i said i used about
01:14:13.140 20 minutes getting him off the floor because at the same time he's saying i can do this myself
01:14:18.440 that was like the story he told me about him putting his coat on that time like a half an
01:14:24.260 hour he let him sit there and yes i was just seeing when i saw that you know his arms were
01:14:30.300 going and he didn't have he couldn't you know do this and i was sitting just watching him for the
01:14:36.520 longest time instead of asking necessarily every time do you want me to help you because i want
01:14:42.940 him to do as much as he can still you know but um at the same time I'm I'm there to help him with
01:14:49.280 anything and everything I don't want him to be in agony and I don't want him to be depressed and I
01:14:56.400 don't want him to be just frustrated and angry and you know so but I was watching to see how long
01:15:05.600 it took for him to just ask me for help and I don't think he would have it's always me saying
01:15:12.360 mark do you want me to help you his stubbornness is still there what what is more than ever
01:15:19.760 this is gonna this is a very difficult question to ask and i've been
01:15:24.580 sitting here trying to figure out a way to do it but i guess i it's how much of mark is left
01:15:31.280 which one part is it the brain or the heart because his heart is completely
01:15:39.180 all there and that is so much of a person you know but brain it's hard to say um i would say
01:15:50.440 he understands things and he but he can't like he can't um explain anything his speech is gone
01:16:01.000 and the little he has is very slurry so um but i can ask him what year is it and he can say 2025
01:16:10.320 one time and 2024 one time and then i explained to him 2026 and then he will remember that till
01:16:16.640 the next day so it's hard to say shadow it's it's i don't know i i ask him little political things
01:16:26.900 and he gets very quickly annoyed
01:16:31.120 because it's almost like I can't take it in.
01:16:33.460 Like I told him the other day
01:16:34.640 because I was bawling
01:16:35.900 when I heard that Tony was released, 0.98
01:16:39.820 the last one of the Coots Boys 1.00
01:16:41.580 that came out from prison. 0.99
01:16:45.260 And I told Mark and I was just,
01:16:47.280 I'm going to start crying now.
01:16:49.200 But I was so happy to see him out
01:16:52.580 and I so wanted to share that with Mark.
01:16:56.120 so I told him about it and
01:16:58.320 he just looked
01:17:00.160 and I said Mark I know that you would
01:17:02.460 have been there you know you would have
01:17:04.480 gone there and you
01:17:06.440 would have been outside greeting him
01:17:08.460 as he's coming out
01:17:09.660 and I know absolutely that he
01:17:12.440 would that but he
01:17:14.440 turns to me and he says no
01:17:16.020 no and I'm
01:17:18.520 like yeah wow so he
01:17:20.280 he can't he doesn't take it
01:17:22.260 he can't take it in so I don't even
01:17:24.200 i i asked him when i started telling him about this i said do you remember tony one of the four 0.99
01:17:29.080 coots boys and he looks at me for a long time and then it's just like yeah but he he can say yeah
01:17:35.300 without me understanding fully if he remembers a lot because his memory has started going too
01:17:41.980 so you shared a story with me on the phone a while back about um you know you've been with
01:17:50.440 mark 18 years 17 or 18 years yeah and you've had all kinds of adventures in that time and
01:17:58.580 now it's like he's gone and you can't share them like those little private moments anymore and yet
01:18:07.060 he's still there i mean that's got to be he was sitting in the living room the other day and he
01:18:14.740 looked at um a picture that was taken by a newspaper in my hometown Bergen in Norway
01:18:22.020 because we met at a time where dating online and you know moving across borders and from country
01:18:30.800 to country started getting bigger and we were one of those couples and um someone had heard
01:18:36.980 our story and a journalist called and asked it can we write about your story it's a it's you know
01:18:42.720 a love story and we would love to you know because it's getting bigger and bigger so we got
01:18:47.080 you know this picture was taken and it ended up on the first page of this newspaper
01:18:51.980 um and we have that picture in the living room in a frame and he said the other day he said
01:18:59.580 that's a really nice picture he says and I said yes it is and I asked him do you remember where
01:19:07.040 that was taken and he says yes in Central Park and I said that's New York Mark I've never been
01:19:16.440 to New York and neither have you that I know of but this was so I explained to him this was taken
01:19:22.260 in in Bergen and it was in the newspaper and he said yeah but I'm not fully sure if he remembered
01:19:28.640 that and that's when it hit me so hard knowing that I am the only one now that can harbor all
01:19:36.580 these memories that we have you know so it's tough because you're losing someone that you love so much
01:19:44.180 on so many levels except from you know the physical um but he i don't know if you saw it
01:19:51.160 before but he stood here and he's you know giving me pets and stuff so the physical i can go and get
01:19:57.100 a hug whenever i want and i love the fact that i can do that but at the same time it's so hard
01:20:02.160 to give those hugs because i don't know who receives it or who gives it anymore you know
01:20:08.300 but how are you um worn out but i'm gonna go till there's no more breath in me
01:20:19.280 doing what i can to see if i can do something for mark the most important thing for me now
01:20:25.240 at least is knowing that he lives um happy days you know so whatever happens if he declines more
01:20:35.000 and or if we can stop things and if we can get him to swing back a little bit
01:20:40.120 uh that is what i'm working for but it's besides the point the day-to-day is for me to make sure
01:20:47.360 that mark is taking care of and that is uh happy as happy as he can be you know
01:20:54.560 so that is uh yeah i went to have a massage yesterday because mark has a friend
01:21:02.900 that has i have to say that it's called um mjc a spa massage and spa here it's clark uh colson
01:21:12.260 who has this place and he's also a freedom fighter that has worked with mark and he said
01:21:16.980 come on in we're gonna give Mark you know some treatments and they also give me one and she said
01:21:23.540 I you're just a bundle of you know tight nerves and yeah so you need some help too it's it's
01:21:31.400 I understand it's about you know putting your mask on first but it's really hard when you feel
01:21:38.060 days that you have to choose between my well-being and Mark's well-being to me it's not a
01:21:44.720 that's going to be his his well-being wins over anything and everything so yeah but it's tough
01:21:51.640 i'm not gonna lie it's tough but i'm trying mark and i also have very similar humor so we laugh a
01:21:57.660 lot still do you still you should still share jokes well not necessarily jokes it's more
01:22:04.700 little things like if i help him with something and he like if i help him put sweater on or
01:22:10.260 something and he will say the f word several times because he wants to do it himself and he
01:22:15.180 can't and then he's angry because i have to be there and help him it's probably an an f you on
01:22:21.200 so many levels uh and frustration and everything and then i said yes you know i agree f me and f
01:22:28.520 you f everything and then he starts laughing so if i can and if i'm super stressed i'm not able to do
01:22:35.840 that because then i'm just going to be like let me help you and get over with and i need to move
01:22:41.940 on to you know making supper or whatever else i need to do so when i have a little bit of more
01:22:48.260 like if i have a little bit more energy one day it's so much easier to make mark laugh and i need
01:22:53.560 to just be mindful of that you know you've got a meeting in nine minutes did you know that
01:22:59.920 it's 2 51 you've got a three o'clock meeting you told me i have postponed it till 4 30.
01:23:07.900 oh did you scan today yes all right i think we've done a good job with this and thank you so much
01:23:16.500 for having me on i mean like i said i don't do this very often but um when you ask me i'm like
01:23:21.380 that's the right person to do it i you know what i when i told you um you have to come on that was
01:23:27.320 what like before christmas i think yeah and and i felt inside that i hadn't done near enough
01:23:36.620 to help and um i feel grateful to mark because of how he
01:23:45.640 you know he was uh very patient with me now politically speaking at the time we didn't get
01:23:55.920 along uh ppc conservative whatever and i i've moved on to a whole different thought on that now
01:24:04.300 but you know when we talked about the new world order and all of that stuff he was the one who
01:24:11.660 initially kind of clued me into how deep it goes and where it is and what it is and all of that
01:24:18.100 and i was resistant to it at first because of cognitive dissonance and and all of that like
01:24:25.400 most people are i just knew there was something wrong but i didn't know exactly what it was and
01:24:30.620 that there was a plan and he he told me and yeah i remember from one episode to the next i think
01:24:40.060 there was maybe two or three months between where i said to him when we came back to the next one i
01:24:46.060 said oh by the way uh yeah i get what you were talking about and he goes oh yeah
01:24:51.620 it was like that right and and it was just kind of one of those guy acknowledgements there was
01:25:02.460 no big long dialogue about it it was just like one of those yeah right and that's to me
01:25:09.700 that's how he was he didn't need any great gratification right he didn't need any big
01:25:16.760 thank yous because that wasn't why he he was doing it it was about as you pointed out earlier you
01:25:24.940 know like he felt that he had been anointed to this and i remember the first time i saw someone
01:25:31.900 or the first time at least he showed me or it was a comment or something and someone said
01:25:37.460 mark you're a hero and he turns to me and he said i cannot tell you how embarrassed i get when
01:25:43.480 someone telling me that it's just i'm no hero i'm just doing what i need to do and if i can have you
01:25:52.680 know a little bit of um you know like if if someone wants to listen to what i have to say
01:26:00.400 if i can explain something of my knowledge and if people want to listen then i need to do it like i
01:26:07.760 I can't not do it.
01:26:08.940 He was so good at explaining, though.
01:26:11.420 Yeah.
01:26:11.660 I mean, that was the whole thing about him, right?
01:26:13.740 Like, I mean, there's other people that knew stuff,
01:26:15.760 but they didn't quite put it out there the way he did.
01:26:18.200 And so, you know, I remember sitting and watching him speak
01:26:21.400 at one of those events.
01:26:23.040 And I just went, wow.
01:26:25.160 He just reached it.
01:26:26.780 And that room was full that night.
01:26:28.420 Yeah.
01:26:28.680 There was 400 people in there.
01:26:30.200 Right.
01:26:30.760 And, you know, he sat there and he said, man, I've been doing this.
01:26:33.240 I remember the first time I did this, there was five people.
01:26:36.580 Now it's 400.
01:26:37.760 but he could go from 400 to a thousand and then back down to five and it didn't matter to him
01:26:42.940 yeah those five were just maybe even more important you know and then a whole mass he
01:26:48.040 he wanted that interaction and that connection with people so he did it and he reached them all
01:26:54.600 because you because i'm one of those people who observes the whole thing not just one aspect of
01:27:00.520 it and so you look around and you see the people who they're reacting to him yeah right like they
01:27:06.780 they're responding
01:27:09.220 without you know the clapping
01:27:11.580 or the loud they were just you could see by
01:27:13.540 their body language and by their facial expressions
01:27:15.760 that they were getting it
01:27:17.080 because he was explaining it so well
01:27:19.500 I thought wow that's great
01:27:21.420 yeah he is
01:27:23.180 but it was a fire
01:27:25.720 in him you know you couldn't stop
01:27:27.700 it like he needed to explain
01:27:29.560 to people
01:27:30.820 creativity too though right I mean like that's where
01:27:33.800 I think that