00:03:30.000Not as warm in southern Manitoba today
00:03:58.940but still the humidity that's why i'm sweating i didn't want you to go is he sweating yeah i'm
00:04:05.340sweating i'm i'm admitting it right now i've also got a sty over my left eye i've been treating it
00:04:11.420with nano silver gel so it's getting better but it's a slow process welcome to the show everybody
00:04:18.860it's monday it's july the 15th 2024 on the show tonight security expert protection expert jeff
00:04:25.340stone of tacit investigations and security in winnipeg and author donald lee as a matter of
00:04:31.740fact donald's got a a recent book out a newish book out it's called the way forward how to
00:04:35.820escape the totalitarian control of the new world order and heal from its trauma a little bit of a
00:04:42.140wordy title but hopefully he's got all of the tips in that book that we can use and we'll discuss
00:04:47.180that a little bit later on and there's some new details emerging from the assassination attempt
00:04:53.740over the weekend of donald trump if you were watching on facebook or x tonight you mean
00:05:00.300you're just hearing about the assassination attempt right now you you haven't heard about
00:05:04.140this yet my god where you been seriously i'll bet there are some people who right now at this very
00:05:10.380moment just found out about it they've been away it's summer they're not letting their devices
00:05:16.460get to them they're not listening to radio they're not doing anything outside of what they're doing
00:05:22.140and so yeah it's not surprising there might be a few stragglers coming in late hearing about the
00:05:28.760assassination attempt and there are more details emerging it seems like it's a minute by minute
00:05:34.020thing so we're going to talk more about that a little bit later on and donald trump is named
00:05:38.220a vice presidential candidate we'll get to that in just a second the shadow at night live stream
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00:06:45.840this headline here quickly from the Associated Press. We're not going to do the whole story.
00:06:49.520We'll get to that later on. Trump picks Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio, a once fierce critic turned
00:06:56.520loyal ally as his GOP running mate. So once again, we're going to get to that a little bit later on
00:07:02.880in the show tonight. Apparently, everybody, all of the people on the good side of the ledger are
00:07:10.220very satisfied with this pick and we're going to ask jeff stone right now jeff are you satisfied
00:07:16.220with that pick of jd vance is the vp candidate yeah i am i think he's uh he's perfect for the
00:07:23.200job for sure why do you think that is it because of the things he said because eight years ago he
00:07:28.500called trump hitler apparently well i think um i mean when you're going through an election
00:07:33.740you're always going to have your personal favorite at the beginning but then when you start
00:07:37.960getting into the politics and the policies and so on and so forth. I think they kind of like
00:07:42.400grew closer and closer together to where they actually have the same platform and vision for
00:07:49.180the country. So I think it's a good pick. Yeah. All right. We're going to get into that a little
00:07:53.920bit later on. I do have a couple of other guys who are on video here. Daniel Bulford,
00:07:59.200who is a counter sniper working on the detail of Justin Trudeau up until the events of the
00:08:05.500convoy a couple of years ago and now he's driving truck i believe he seems happy anyway so we're
00:08:10.280going to hear what danny has to say later on and uh... he said pretty much in his video put up on
00:08:15.240his instagram the same thing that you and i discussed last night which was there's no way
00:08:20.440this ever should have happened but danny doesn't go into details too much about why or how or who
00:08:27.900might be behind it he's just looking at it strictly through a critical lens from his experience and
00:08:32.500Also, there's another American sniper who has made a comment on this on GAP.
00:08:37.380We're going to talk about that later on.
00:08:39.440But in your experience, and you've done protection for a lot of big names who have come through the city here in Winnipeg and other places as well.
00:08:50.820Before anything happens at all, you're going to stake out a site at least a week in advance, maybe longer, correct?
00:09:22.880um and what determines that is uh like this what we would call it a safety coordinator okay or
00:09:29.160protect himself so let's hypothetically say that the most accessible firearm in the united states
00:09:35.720is the ar-50 okay and it takes a 223 uh round okay so its effective range would be about somewhere
00:09:43.740around 600 yards so if i was doing a site survey that's that's what i'd be looking for that range
00:09:51.600And so the high ground is the first thing that we would look at.
00:09:56.620And then a secondary team would come in and they would look at all the logistics.
00:10:01.540So everybody that would have access to that location and site during the regular course of business, we want to know everything about them.
00:10:09.420You know, times they arrive, how many employees, so on and so forth.
00:10:13.560Then you would have a communications team.
00:10:16.500And in this case, it's called the MACT.
00:10:18.060And the MACT is the multi-agency command center.
00:10:21.100And what they're tasked to do is to put local law enforcement on comms and in the same communication systems as the Secret Service, okay?
00:10:30.720So once you've established a security zone and you've got your command center, then what you want to do is you would have, in this case, Secret Service guard protectors of, in this case, Trump himself.
00:10:47.780And their primary job is exactly that, to protect him at all costs.
00:10:53.120And the term that they use, like what we saw in the video, a lot of videos that are out there,
00:11:00.480That's actually called the body bunker.
00:11:02.660And all those Secret Service agents, they have their Kevlar vests and so on and so forth.
00:11:07.400So there's layered and layered and layered protection over the president.
00:11:11.800the crowd um the third team um would be what would they call hawkeye hawkeye are the guy that
00:11:20.440some of the videos you might see who have stood in full tactical gear on the stage they are they're
00:11:26.680looking for for uh threats within the crowd um the looking for excuse me looking for what looking
00:11:34.400for threats other threats because you gotta appreciate they don't know how many uh assassins
00:11:39.780out there, right? So they're scanning the crowd, they're looking and they're listening
00:11:44.020in their comms, taking direction from the command center. So then you've got your counter
00:11:49.340sniper units that are on the high points. So once you have the counter sniper teams
00:12:00.280all dialed in, you're pretty secure, right? And then they also have agents throughout
00:12:06.740the crowds that no one knows about so they're dressed in plain clothes in most cases but at
00:12:11.220the end of the day you have a pretty you could have a pretty secured site uh contrary to what
00:12:17.140we saw on the weekend what happened was just uh it's beyond uh negligence it's like beyond gross
00:12:24.900negligence it's it's uh should never have happened so let me ask you how many errors that from the
00:12:33.620video you've seen in the stories that you've heard how many errors have been made that we can count
00:12:38.580so far oh wow um as far as counting i don't know but i uh one of the i can point at some of the
00:12:45.780deficiencies okay so that rooftop that assassin climbed up onto uh they didn't include that
00:12:53.460into their perimeter their their secret service perimeter which again i i don't know the answer
00:13:00.660to why they wouldn't have concluded that um reports are coming out that that was supposed
00:13:05.060to be the local law enforcement uh responsibility now whether that be the case or not like myself
00:13:11.300if i was surveying that site that would have been included in my primary protective zone area under
00:13:16.820my command under my control but in this case whatever uh if it's the law enforcement um there
00:13:22.900was no comms at all between the two and at least it didn't appear to um because you would have seen
00:13:31.140if on a regular deployment they would have had aerial uh drones they would have had helicopters
00:13:36.340they would have had something uh with a you know a view from the top and they would have clearly
00:13:42.900seen that they would have seen that on fleer they would have seen that with just regular cameras
00:13:46.340Right. So he was permitted to get into a point well within the effective range of a typical weapon that anybody in the United States could get.
00:14:00.420Yeah. What about the situation where the spectators, the people there, the attendees of the rally were yelling at local law enforcement and possibly Secret Service agents?
00:14:12.140Hey, there's a guy on the roof. He's got a gun. Hey, there's a guy.
00:14:15.160they're yelling at the officers and it appears as though the officers either ignored what these
00:14:22.160people were saying or sloughed it off to these people are just drunk or or how could they not
00:14:29.720pay attention to something like that when so many people were yelling it from the rooftops if you'll
00:14:33.800pardon the expression well no i saw some of the video that you probably saw as well and um you're
00:14:40.240correct like one hundred percent correct uh...
00:14:43.240there was a report where officer actually climb the ladder saw the assassin
00:16:00.640They got him into the body bunker to protect him.
00:16:06.740And then I did hear some reports, and I did actually hear the command that Hawkeye was on the stage.
00:16:15.500That's those guys in full tactical gear, scanning the crowd.
00:16:19.020But then within seconds later, they did say that the assassin was down.
00:16:24.500So they did say that, and the reason I ask, and there's reports coming out today,
00:16:29.800we saw in redacted today with clayton and natalie morris that there's probably a second shooter
00:16:35.920involved in this there's proof of this allegedly but we don't know yet we haven't seen the reports
00:16:42.320the complete reports of that but they dogpiled trump and then they let him up they let him up
00:16:50.260and that's where he does the big fight fight fight with the fist in the air should that have
00:16:55.680happened well at that time it was um it was it was at all like they had already indicated that
00:17:04.140the target was neutralized that's right one target but they i mean they you know if they
00:17:08.260didn't see this guy it's quite possible there could have been another guy i mean that you're
00:17:11.760right normally they would actually uh have his head tucked down and they would drag him like
00:17:17.020almost like he would be in an airplane position and they would cover him and just rush him out
00:17:22.880of the area and into the into his uh into the um the beast as they call it yeah but they didn't
00:17:29.600they let him they let him get up and and put his arm in the air and and yell to the crowd i mean
00:17:36.460did that not seem weird it it did but at the same time um you know i know the trump is that
00:17:48.240of who he is or who knows who knows um but technically they should have escorted him off
00:17:53.280that stage immediately and got him into the to the uh armored unit and gone um so yeah i i take your
00:18:01.200point though that uh you know perhaps they should have done what they're supposed to do um it just
00:18:07.040doesn't make any sense to me that they would expose him to the crowd that soon after the shots
00:18:12.080rang out even if they thought they did have the suspect down it just does not seem for me and i
00:18:18.400think you know what i'm getting at right you know what i'm getting at with it yeah for me it wouldn't
00:18:22.240have happened he would have been just hauled out of there it was it's not a choice it's like you
00:18:25.760know a lot of people don't understand that um uh the secret service detail is not uh like trump
00:18:32.160does not have control over that um they are assigned to him and that's done through the
00:18:38.800super service director who you know um i'm a lot of people are calling for a recognition
00:18:45.280and i don't well i actually support that but um they should have just taken them off the stage
00:18:51.840uh i don't know why they would have let him do that but i mean okay here's something interesting
00:18:58.080i'm going to throw it up on the screen here uh it came from 4chan so 4chan is allegedly or not
00:19:04.400allegedly notoriously unreliable this is the home of q anon right that's where q anon was born and
00:19:12.160we know what q anon is for the most part but this popped up today and then started circulating all
00:19:17.520over x and other social media that was quickly dispelled by all the fact-checking organizations
00:19:23.840out there which made me raise another eyebrow right up to about here it says my name is jonathan
00:19:29.760willis i'm the officer in the famous photo of the two snipers on the roof at trump's rally
00:19:34.840i came here to inform the public that i had the assassin in my sights for at least three minutes
00:19:40.580but the head of the secret service refused to give the order to take out the perp so this post
00:19:47.520is blaming the head of the secret service for not giving the order i think that order would have come
00:19:53.320from the ground would it not from the site commander no when they're when they if there's
00:20:00.700a threat that's determined they have a green light they don't need permission they can take
00:20:05.800the shot immediately okay what about i find i find that claim innocuous like it's yeah i know
00:20:17.800it's it's there's so much going on out there right now that it's okay these agents are so
00:20:23.880highly trained that when if there's a threat detected they take the shop now that being said
00:20:29.480uh there are other theories i've been hearing about i've got my own but i'm just speaking to
00:20:33.980facts those agents don't wait for anything if they see a threat they neutralize the threat
00:20:39.580immediately okay so i've also heard from a couple of other uh security experts off the record so
00:20:46.980i'm not naming names that when there is a threat detected such as this in an event such as that
00:20:53.160that the shooter the sniper the guy who is in protection will be looking to take out the
00:21:00.940shooter the subject completely they're not going to leave him alive that's correct yeah okay can
00:21:07.860you elaborate please why that is because i mean you'd think you'd want the guy around to question
00:21:13.120them at the very least no well they're trained to shoot center max right so they're going to shoot
00:21:18.860the biggest part of the body that they can to neutralize the threat um if he's alive great if
00:21:24.620not all they're concerned about is that they can neutralize the threat however that looks0.99
00:21:30.700you know um a lot of people have a misconception oh well why don't you shoot him in the arm or the0.97
00:21:36.820leg that's a it's illegal it's against the geneva convention and two that's not what they're trained0.98
00:21:41.820do this they're trained to shoot center mass utilize the threat so that they're not a threat
00:21:47.180but they took this guy out man i mean like the one witness said they blew his head off
00:21:52.300yeah you have to appreciate they are using high caliber weapon systems like platforms
00:21:59.420and if you look at that scenario he was in a prone position in a concealed position and all
00:22:05.100they had from what i understand from the vantage point from the counter sniper was just the head
00:22:10.380shot so you're not going to go and pick a point out of his body uh you're just going to shoot
00:22:16.140whatever's there i yeah it just seems so perfect so perfect for the narrative and i've got my
00:22:25.180theories as well i'm just telling you what the training uh methodology is they're trained to
00:22:29.820shoot center mass neutralized threat okay so are are you comfortable talking about your theories
00:22:36.300we got a few more minutes left here if you want to talk about what uh what you think might have
00:22:41.260happened here because i i still don't know i haven't put it together yet i'm leaning to one way
00:22:48.780but i i just haven't got the corroborating evidence yet so what do you think based on fact
00:22:56.140pattern we've seen how uh the democrats have gone at trump since he came down the escalator
00:23:04.540They've thrown everything at this guy, lawfare, spying, the whole line works, the dossier, all of it.
00:23:13.280You're weak from—or actually, in this case, it was only a couple days, two days—two days from the RNC convention, right, where he actually takes the nomination, the president, the candidate.
00:23:25.160The polling numbers indicated that Biden has no chance to win, and he knows that.
00:23:51.340Now, that could have been a, if you'll pardon the expression, a tacit suggestion to the wing nuts out there to maybe go ahead and take a shot.
00:23:58.960Well, this young lad had some training. I'm not saying he was an expert. You don't need to be an expert from that range. But he knew how to lay in a prone position. And he was pretty close. He was pretty close, right?0.99
00:24:13.020So what I'm looking at is why would the handpicked Secret Service director was handpicked by Biden in 2022, who is a huge advocate for DEI.
00:24:26.260And that was clearly demonstrated on stage.
00:24:28.540She was a little bit scraggling behind.0.99
00:24:31.980But isn't she the same one who had trouble holstering her weapon as well?
00:24:36.900Tumbling around like Abbott and Costello.
00:24:39.040Yeah. So the other issue that I have is Trump's campaign had been asking on several occasions for increased security detail, and they kept denying, denying, denying.
00:24:51.920So given all the fact patterns that they really don't like this guy, Biden knew he can't win.
00:24:58.900Every time they threw a charge at him, like an indictment, his polling numbers went up.
00:25:04.100He's actually in the swing states. He's actually polling extremely well.
00:25:07.960it's on the level of Reagan when he got got in like he kind of swept to go every
00:25:15.760state yeah well they don't they don't want him in there and then when I say0.73
00:25:20.620they we're talking with the Black Rocks incidentally the kid within a commercial0.51
00:25:25.960in in the high school in 2020 yeah or 2022 sorry and coincidence who knows
00:25:34.000Bottom line is BlackRock has a lot to lose.
00:25:37.460They need the Biden policies, the foreign policies, and the World Economic Foreign,
00:25:45.000DEI, SOGI, you know, all those policies as well, for them to increase their market share.
00:25:52.640Because Larry Fink has stated in his annual statements to the shareholders that they need
00:26:01.940look for new sources of revenue because they're pretty much saturated what better way than to
00:26:08.580have open borders and create a whole new whole wave you know 20 million new consumers uh go to
00:26:14.500uh ukraine you know blow it up and then get a 500 billion dollar reconstruction contract
00:26:20.420i'm willing to bet they probably have the same thing in palestine
00:26:24.340yeah that makes sense do you think that that trump could have orchestrated something like
00:26:28.580this on his own to guarantee an election victory some people are saying that yeah no that's when
00:26:34.660you look at the caliber that would have been used in that that that that ar-15 no people don't i
00:26:40.900don't care how good you are a sharp shooter even even danny bolner will probably tell you uh bolford
00:26:46.420will tell you no you're not going to take a shot and and try to graze somebody that's not going to
00:26:50.900happen i mean you would have to be the most expert of expert marksmen to try and pull something like
00:26:57.300that jtf2 sniper couldn't do that and they hold the rule record and so i and i'm just telling you
00:27:02.900what i know uh... at that close range even a sharpshooter which specializes in shorter
00:27:07.620distances no um... and not to mention that there is people that did die yes yes but you know i i
00:27:16.180mentioned last night and this is something that i i need to repeat because people i i think some
00:27:22.100people just aren't getting it and that is when we say out loud oh they'd never do that if somebody
00:27:30.220got killed you know that means that it must be this i don't think they care jeff i i think that
00:27:38.380they would look at that as collateral damage and you know and and when we say they'd never do that
00:27:44.600we're actually talking about ourselves they would do anything anything i take your point i take your
00:27:51.740point um you know we're not talking about people with the same morals as you or i or most people
00:27:56.780right especially when you're talking fascination right so with the money that's involved and the
00:28:02.700characters are involved the deep state if you will the military industrial complex which is
00:28:08.460heavily invested by black rock vanguard state street they have a lot to lose if they can't get
00:28:14.620by to stay in the white house and get re-elected they have a good chance of losing a lot of money
00:28:19.500do you believe that donald trump is actually on the side of good because there are people
00:28:27.320who are saying they're all in on it i i believe he loves his country i really do he he took a
00:28:35.360net loss on his on his business when he went to the white house uh he's been through a lot of0.95
00:28:42.040shit excuse my language but he's been through a lot of stuff most people have a long time ago0.91
00:28:47.920so this guy is tough uh he's showed on the world stage when he was president administration did0.92
00:28:55.460some amazing stuff like uh the the abraham accord something that was not heard of never been done
00:29:03.380never economy was you know the best it's ever been unemployment was the best in history
00:29:09.560he moved the the uh the embassy in in israel which you know four other presidents previous
00:29:15.640kept saying they would do it never did do it so he got stuff done and it was all good stuff closed
00:29:21.920up the border so he did a lot of good things for his country and then covid hit okay so um if covid
00:29:29.520didn't hit you know he probably would have got re-elected that vaccine thing yeah that vaccine
00:29:38.920thing i got i i don't want to well i'm writing a novel series and i'll just touch on it a little
00:29:46.440bit um it's in the book that's all i get like all events that we've witnessed since covid including
00:29:54.680covid including things that happen in winnipeg and certain labs it's all yeah including the
00:30:03.480only thing i've done is change some names so that no one can come at me and you know sue me
00:30:07.640I haven't read that excerpt you sent me yet
00:30:11.260I'm sorry, I know that you've asked me a couple of times
00:30:13.460I will get to that when I've got a moment
00:30:15.520and I get rid of this sty so I can see
00:41:16.300And as I explain in the book and in the presentations I give as I go on earth,
00:41:20.520Like this war that we're in is completely unlike any other war in human history, which is why most people don't even don't even see that there's a war going.
00:44:46.340that you've been living in for 30 years but you're not living within the system both i i think both
00:44:53.140and i'm sure you're well aware that some people are setting up little kind of you know communities
00:44:58.760that are separated and yeah history of this right the mennonites and the hutterites and the homish
00:45:04.920like people have done this for centuries they probably probably as long as there have been0.92
00:45:09.220people you're like these guys are crazy and we're we're getting out of here we're heading for the
00:45:13.440else right people have been doing that forever but there's not much room left on this planet to
00:45:18.620you know to get away i have to say that in this war you can run but you can't hide so you know
00:45:23.600some people are doing that and and that's fine in one of the um you know in all of these different
00:45:30.460ways people will this gets back to your your question a moment ago that i didn't quite answer
00:45:35.440yet that everywhere people have got to come up with their own their own ideas okay we need to
00:45:42.260go back to the fundamentals and rethink how do we want to structure our relationships with each
00:45:47.940other how do we want to live and work together in the community as a community how do we want
00:45:54.740to ensure that everyone has freedom but people aren't taking advantage of each other because
00:45:59.640that's like that's not good either right and so we've tried to do this and you know your american
00:46:05.580listeners will understand this and you know the founding fathers of the united states of america
00:46:10.380tried to do this to structure a system of government that could not be corrupted and
00:46:16.860that would continue to allow freedom to everyone but we need to try again because the systems
00:46:23.460and the democracies that we we have we thought our democratic systems protected us from tyranny
00:46:29.800we find out that they've all been corrupted and we have tyranny anyway so we need to go have the
00:46:34.940Have the systems been corrupted or are we just dealing with very, very corrupt people here who can take, I mean, you could put any system in place, but you have to have faith in the people who are there within the system to work within that system.
00:46:50.640Right. And when they don't, you know, people like Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden and all of these others, that's when you get the real chaos starting.
00:46:59.080yeah you're exactly right and as soon as those words came out of my mouth
00:47:03.560you know corrupted our democracy corrupted our system you know i i realized that wasn't a good
00:47:09.560way to state that because no i got what you were saying i totally understand what you were saying
00:47:14.300uh but you know when you say when we need to start again i mean we do have to put more safeguards in
00:47:19.280place to protect ultimately the people and i do think you you have a very good point for the
00:47:24.400american listeners i mean they have tried very very very hard down in the united states to
00:47:30.420corrupt the system they have but it's much more difficult down there than it seems to be up here
00:47:35.000in canada wouldn't you say yes i think so and you know the individual states in the united states
00:47:40.660have more autonomy and more power reserved to the states than we have in the provinces in canada
00:47:48.080which makes it more difficult for Canadian provinces to do essentially
00:47:53.820what Alberta is trying to do right now, right, to kind of hold it.
00:48:59.760You know, we had almost 200 different countries in the world bring in exactly the same COVID policies at exactly the same time.
00:49:07.900This level or this degree of policy coordination is absolutely impossible unless those policies are actually being dictated from a higher level.
00:49:30.620What was the name of that bill that the candidate just passed about online harms?
00:49:37.900right yeah they all always phrase these things in terms of oh we're going to protect you from
00:49:43.440more safety and security yeah and we we feed into this what what they're doing is is they're taking
00:49:49.660away our power and they're they're instituting a more centralized control that's what has made
00:49:55.440all of these government structures tyrannic and did you see in your travels donald i'm sorry to
00:50:01.100interrupt you but did you see uh people who are saying we're going to fight back i mean like
00:50:05.300People like Maggie Hope Braun, for example, who you did an event with a couple of weekends ago.
00:50:11.140We're going to fight back now at the municipal level, at the town or city level, or even the school board level, and we're going to work out from there.
00:50:19.380Yeah, it's really, and you know the old saying, all politics is local.
00:50:24.180It's really the only level that we can make meaningful changes on the level of our local level, our municipal level.
00:50:30.700and so you know i i suggest that that's really the only if you want whatever political action
00:50:36.120you want to do it should be done at the local level yeah when you uh when you were on your
00:50:41.620tour and i know you're still going across the country talking to different freedom groups and
00:50:46.260talking about your book um this is going to be a tough one i hear from a lot of people
00:50:54.280that they've lost friends and family members still, even to this day, where they can't repair
00:51:01.460that relationship that goes back to, I guess, when COVID first became a thing or the response
00:51:07.520to it first became a thing. And because of that, people are holding themselves back.
00:51:12.360They're holding themselves back from becoming members of this new thing that is starting to
00:51:18.600develop what do you think what would you tell somebody who's in that position like
00:51:24.040tell them to do obviously follow their heart but i mean understand that if you stay behind
00:51:31.780because your family members you're staying behind in this matrix of things this internet of things
00:51:36.300that you yourself will be caught in that web as well would you rather live alone with your new
00:51:42.760friends free or would you rather go back to that because i hear that all the time
00:51:47.780oh really okay well i mean it's it that's part of the psychological warfare how they're you know
00:51:55.600that they're trying to keep everybody caught in the matrix if you want to call it that because
00:52:00.740yeah we're social animals and and and we don't we we very much fear being cut off from our friends
00:52:07.080but you see those of us who have already been cut off from our friends and our families like
00:52:11.080what difference does it make and and and even though they want that relationship back so badly
00:52:17.420that they're willing to give up going forward for freedom
00:52:21.220and going back to that is, I guess, what I'm saying.
00:52:23.940Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but we don't have it back.
00:53:38.300conversation. I guess you don't want to talk about
00:53:40.300anything meaningful you know yeah yeah yeah there's there's still it's amazing to me how many
00:53:45.740people that we've seen and are still doing on on social media too bad they missed like what has
00:53:53.600gotten into some of these people it it amazes me is it the psychological warfare uh that they've
00:54:00.400been completely and totally boxed into this very very small realm of thought uh partly yes yes of
00:54:07.760Of course, but we, I mean, we've observed this about social media ever since social, actually, ever since the, since emails came up, right?
00:54:15.180But certainly it's, it's big time on social media.
00:54:18.400People feel like protected or something that they can just say things that you would never say to someone in person, right?
00:54:32.980You can tell people to, you know, go, you know, do, you know, you know what to themselves or whatever.
00:54:40.140You can say people say all this stuff on social media.
00:54:43.100If they were standing there right in front of you, you know, or together at a social event.
00:54:47.040No, they would never talk to you that way.
00:54:49.780So this has led to a tremendous amount of of uncivility in our society.
00:55:00.820um and so yet we we are seeing people i'm sorry to interrupt you again please finish your thought
00:55:06.560there but but partly it absolutely is part of the psychological warfare and then i explain that
00:55:12.560particularly in the way forward when in the chapter on psychological warfare they they want
00:55:17.320to take us excuse me through you know what uh the four stages of psychological warfare where you you
00:55:26.420take people to the polarization where you get people divide into antagonistic groups and
00:55:30.960you know you you you know anti-maskers or anti-whatever or you you know trumpers
00:55:39.840whatever name we put these labels divide into groups get us fighting against each other
00:55:45.300within our own family right our own community and and then they we retreat into our own group
00:55:51.840this is tribalization so people find their own tribes and we get our society which should be
00:55:57.760one society if we're all brothers and sisters right really with differing views and nobody
00:56:03.200should have any hate on about that right i mean and nobody should be trying to jam their opinions
00:56:07.620down our throats right yeah exactly i mean just live your life man do what you want think what
00:56:14.020you want live in whatever fantasy you want just don't commit fraud or violence against other
00:56:18.340people that's all yeah so but then but then the second step is tribalization we retreat into our
00:56:24.480tribes and then the third step is dehumanization where we we dehumanize the other tribes and that's
00:56:31.260what we're seeing in these social media posts oh yeah too bad they missed they should have killed0.95
00:56:35.080them right we hold it you're talking about another human being like you you want it to murder another0.98
00:56:42.940human being? Really? Your brother? Your sister? Like, you know, if we were to do this in person,
00:56:50.800this is extremely difficult to kill another human being. You got to be trained. You got to be
00:56:56.420trained to dehumanize people before you can kill another human being. And that's part of what the
00:57:02.180psychological warfare is doing to us. It is dehumanizing our neighbors. We no longer see
00:57:09.280each other as other individual human, be complex, you know, all of us messed up and making mistakes
00:57:17.420and fallible and there's good and bad in everyone. No, we see other people as, we see them as that
00:57:23.000label, right? You're an avatar of that label that we put on them, a trumper, an anti-vaxxer, right?0.98
00:57:29.940They're not really human. Then we can kill them. And the fourth stage is killing. But the third1.00
00:57:35.940stage is dehumanization so this stuff we're seeing on social media is absolutely part of
00:57:42.020the psychological warfare so that we dehumanize our brothers and sisters do you feel that as well
00:57:49.540donald i mean i know that you have been talking about you know advancing our enlightenment and uh
00:57:56.980feeling energy but you know for me personally and i try to adhere to that as best i can but
00:58:03.860when i walk past somebody you can easily tell what they are who they are right they got the
00:58:08.900rainbow hair they got the thing through their nose they look sour and bitter you just feel like
00:58:15.060saying something but you know i do my best to not all the time but i still have these feelings well
00:58:20.660up inside of me is there something we can do to get past that is it simple meditation prayer
00:58:26.020what do you think oh all all of the above shadow all of the above yes that's what i say all of us
00:58:32.740We're on this personal, individual journey and a collective journey of awareness and transformation.
00:58:40.440We need to transform ourselves in such a way that, well, first of all, that we're not drawn in to these four stages of psychological warfare and dehumanize each other.
00:58:52.020So, yeah, your own individually, everyone, everyone who's listening, your own prayer, meditation, your spiritual practice, whatever church you go to, whatever, you know, whatever you're part of.
00:59:02.440And also being astutely aware of our own thoughts and our own emotions and reactions.
00:59:07.860So one of the things that I'm trying to do, like, I'm a student.