The Shadoe Davis Show - July 1st⧸2024- Maggie Hope Braun, 70% of Canadians say Canada is broken, much more

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00:03:00.000 hey everybody how you doing welcome to shadow at night for monday july the first it's canada

00:03:14.160 day 2024 maggie hope braun is on the show tonight with some fantastic news i just saw her grooving

00:03:21.280 and dancing to the music uh backstage just a few seconds ago we'll bring her on in just a second

00:03:27.520 a big win in thorold ontario a couple of weeks ago she told us about it when she was here for

00:03:33.280 the stronger together conference in bose is your the weekend before last and so now we get to hear

00:03:38.240 the details also uh some other guests tonight include duck and spence and jim handley jim is

00:03:44.480 a city councilor down there in thorold and he's going to tell us how this how this all went and

00:03:50.240 for those of you who don't know what icly is and how it is getting into local governments i'm

00:03:57.280 I'm talking about municipal governments, town councils, city councils, and what it brings.

00:04:02.560 Maggie is going to take some time to explain a little bit of that before we proceed with the story about Thorold tonight.

00:04:08.260 Because in my opinion, this is probably the most important thing.

00:04:13.120 Yeah, there's a lot of fights. We're fighting right now.

00:04:15.340 This war is being fought on a lot of fronts.

00:04:17.080 But this one, this one gets right into the local municipalities.

00:04:21.760 This one is responsible for the 15-minute cities.

00:04:24.580 this one is responsible for the land use bylaws that have been passed and the water use bylaws

00:04:30.600 that have been passed all of that stuff that people are cranky about right now but don't even

00:04:35.180 realize what's going on because different things are happening at different times in different

00:04:40.280 municipalities so maggie is going to break all of that down in just a second the shadow at night

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00:08:30.300 let's bring on our one of our guests tonight it's maggie hope brawn gather 2030 kickley.ca

00:08:36.300 maggie it's good to see you this is the first time you've been on the show since we actually

00:08:39.660 got a chance to meet in person a week and a half ago welcome back well that's not actually true i've

00:08:44.760 been on your show after that and when when was that with ken and oh right yeah but that was a

00:08:51.360 cameo appearance that wasn't like just a full-on kickley thing we were talking about the bows is

00:08:55.940 your experience but you're right i'm wrong i stand corrected it's okay happy canada day everyone

00:09:01.920 yeah how was your weekend you had a good weekend out there with people we had a great weekend it

00:09:07.260 was uh an amazing group of people that have been working hard on the kickley stuff and and

00:09:15.120 everything we're doing along with a whole bunch of musicians so it was absolutely amazing and some

00:09:21.180 People made the trip, so everyone who came was just really special

00:09:28.420 and really grateful for the people who organized our Canadian Fest inflation event.

00:09:35.200 Yeah, I understand you actually had axe throwing out there.

00:09:38.120 You were axing the tax quite literally.

00:09:40.360 Everything was symbolic.

00:09:41.660 That's right.

00:09:42.160 We were throwing axes at the taxes.

00:09:44.980 Everything was locally sourced food.

00:09:48.080 Uh, we had all the inflatables, um, Canadian made inflatables of all the Canadian animals

00:09:54.340 and, uh, uh, floaties.

00:09:57.160 And I don't know the, the fireworks were amazing.

00:10:00.280 I went to, I would be, it went out on crown land, land, me and tinfoil hat man.

00:10:05.340 And tinfoil hat man, is that a new superhero?

00:10:09.620 Oh, he is a superhero.

00:10:11.340 Absolutely.

00:10:12.020 Oh, cool.

00:10:12.260 in ottawa he's at every event every event with his flag and his tinfoil hat on very stoic

00:10:19.900 um just absolute icons in in the movement so it was wonderful how come i haven't had tinfoil hat

00:10:27.160 mad on the show yet is he just more of a mascot type character yes he's he's behind the scenes

00:10:32.360 i'm not allowed to talk about him i'm gonna stop okay you don't want to give away his secret

00:10:36.220 identity i understand completely he needs to remain anonymous so that he doesn't get tracked

00:10:41.020 down by the authorities and the woke mob so um please tell us before we get into the success you

00:10:48.180 had in thorold ontario because i know that you've mentioned it a couple of times here on the show

00:10:52.540 but we didn't get a chance to really get into the nuts and bolts of it all and people need to know

00:10:58.880 because there's so many activists out there and there's so many people saying we're gonna do this

00:11:02.940 and we're gonna do that and there's court cases and they never seem to get resolved or if they do

00:11:07.220 They get resolved poorly.

00:11:09.100 But you had some fantastic success a couple of weeks ago.

00:11:12.600 But first, please tell us, for those people that don't know, what is ICLEI and then KICLEI, if you can.

00:11:20.820 So ICLEI is the International Council on Local Environmental Initiatives.

00:11:27.140 It began in 1990 at the World Congress for the United Nations.

00:11:32.560 it's a consultant group essentially for municipalities in all the countries that

00:11:41.400 signed on to Agenda 21 and after it formed they actually came over to Vancouver and met with

00:11:50.440 the Federation of Canadian Municipalities and drafted Agenda 21 so they are very much the

00:11:59.800 the the sweater i'm wearing localism over globalism right they what people need to understand what

00:12:06.540 kickley's message and what we're trying to reach the people with is the fact that the global agenda

00:12:12.340 is being implemented locally and the people have abandoned their post and and been inundated with

00:12:19.300 um this psychological warfare in a sense that is getting us to constantly focus on

00:12:25.660 on the things that are outside of our circle of influence and we've left our local councils empty

00:12:31.980 and under attack by global lobbyists lobbyists when you say people have left their posts you're

00:12:39.440 talking about the local politicians and bureaucrats correct no i'm talking about us yeah okay that

00:12:46.100 makes sense talking about us you know we're showing up to councils that haven't seen anyone

00:12:51.740 attend them in six years right so um they're they're not getting the people's voice in there

00:13:00.300 and there's a lot that we can do so um so does icly does icly work through um the partners for

00:13:08.520 climate protection is that the same thing or is that just an offshoot how does this what's the

00:13:13.180 chain of organizations here? So ICLEI is working through the Federation of Canadian

00:13:21.340 Municipalities. They used to be a national voice for local governments, and now they are essentially

00:13:28.820 an international voice to local governments. All of their programs are focused on achieving the

00:13:36.400 UN's sustainable development goals. The PCP program, this Partners for Climate Protection

00:13:42.380 program has essentially taken hold, if you go to the membership page there, they've taken hold of

00:13:51.080 528 of our municipalities, but that makes up 98% of our population. And what this program is doing

00:14:00.960 is gathering, getting our staff, our local staff or consultants to collect all of our energy,

00:14:10.860 consumption and waste data and then they get our local councils to adopt reduction targets

00:14:19.160 zero by 2050 and then they sell them all sorts of product products from the green energy sector

00:14:27.840 and programs and we're finding that our municipalities are now spending five times more

00:14:35.240 around five times more on environmental climate change greenhouse gas reduction initiatives

00:14:41.860 than they are on addressing the immediate needs of the people so here in Canada that's presenting

00:14:49.540 quite an issue and we have a lot of our our actual needs going underfunded and I don't think

00:14:57.980 that the counselors know how many programs how many products they've um endorsed and adopted

00:15:06.060 because every time they go in and they say it's for the environment and they virtue signal it's

00:15:10.720 an automatic adoption and um so so what we're doing this is this is southern ontario right

00:15:20.260 look look at this you guys this is look at them all look at them all and there's more there's

00:15:27.160 more on the list so not all of them are showing on the map either so that's kind of scary that we

00:15:32.780 have so many well we've got a full list of all the cities i mean you're right they don't all show on

00:15:36.760 the map or they show up as a different color you can't see but they're all right here guys go to

00:15:40.920 pcp-ppc.ca pcp-ppc.ca and then slash membership it's all right there your town your municipality

00:15:52.120 is probably involved in this maggie says 98 of canadians whether you know it or not you're you're

00:15:58.920 in this man we're being data harvested and our our our data is being given over to icly an

00:16:06.040 international organization connected with the green energy sector right and they're just and

00:16:12.460 the united nations right i mean that's that's an offshoot of the united nations and this is all

00:16:16.660 about the sdgs the 17 sustainable development goals so if you're wondering guys why this land

00:16:23.800 use bylaw suddenly came out of nowhere or why this water usage bylaw came out of nowhere or

00:16:29.100 why they're actually sinking lakes or re-channeling lakes and rivers this is why they're doing it

00:16:35.720 this this is exactly what it is they have no explanation at all except it's good for the

00:16:40.740 environment they don't bring any proof they don't bring any experts they bring nothing 0.94

00:16:44.120 just an agenda from these clowns here and the coolest the coolest thing about this that that 0.79

00:16:49.620 i've discovered and and this is a revelation i just want everyone to understand is that these

00:16:56.560 programs are completely voluntary and that the council the ones that we've elected the ones that

00:17:03.500 we can go in and speak to the ones that we can email the ones that we can meet for coffee the

00:17:08.400 ones that we can talk to they're the ones that still make the decisions and they can choose to

00:17:14.440 voluntarily opt out of these programs so we're going to talk about that tonight and and bring

00:17:20.320 on the first counselor in canadian history who put forward a notice of motion to opt out and

00:17:26.360 within a few months they're out of it right so i would i would like to bring him on maggie but i

00:17:31.440 can't because his devices are not connected right now it's jim yeah we can't we can't bring jim on

00:17:36.360 Jim, you've got to connect your camera and your microphone, man,

00:17:38.960 or else we're not going to be able to bring you on.

00:17:42.700 He's here.

00:17:43.680 He's backstage.

00:17:45.280 I just can't bring him on because he's, yeah, camera, microphone, please.

00:17:50.280 And once we get that going.

00:17:51.680 Mark Cole just put a comment in, data is the new gold, right?

00:17:55.900 And that's what they're doing.

00:17:56.940 They're like, this program is free,

00:17:59.520 but what they're getting in return is all of our data,

00:18:03.020 and they're giving it away to a third party an international third party so data are they

00:18:09.860 getting are they getting like what are they getting exactly so they're getting our there's

00:18:16.720 a huge list of it they look at the corporate so the municipal side and then the community

00:18:22.560 side as well so they look at all of our buildings how much electricity we're using how much fuel

00:18:28.320 we're using. They're looking at all of our garbage cans and how full they are at the time of pickup

00:18:33.180 and how much of it is, they break it down by percentage, how much is organic, how much of it

00:18:38.060 is plastic, leather, the, you know, 20 different categories. Then they look at how much is organic

00:18:44.120 and how much methane potential is there. And then they look at how many cows we have and that

00:18:51.800 methane potential. And then they look at our septics and how much we're going to the bathroom

00:18:56.600 and they'll pass ridiculous bylaws making it so that the landowner has to have their septic pumped

00:19:03.240 and inspected every year for for no other reason i don't think other than seeing how much we're 0.98

00:19:08.540 going to the bathroom wait a minute they've got they've got guys out there counting crap they do 0.98

00:19:14.320 it's absolute bullshit literally they they're looking at how much gas is purchased in our 0.99

00:19:22.260 communities and how how far our our cars are traveling and you know there's facial recognition 0.99

00:19:28.860 digital facial recognition cameras up in one of the big parks in kitchener right now they're saying

00:19:33.980 oh we're not collecting any footage don't worry about it we're not don't don't worry it's just

00:19:38.320 to see how many people are here and who's using the park and at what times what the high peak

00:19:43.080 hours are and all of that it's really really important that we focus on what is happening

00:19:48.700 at that local level we can see and we know that they beta test this stuff to see the reaction

00:19:53.980 and to prime the rest of us to get ready for it now there's jim happy canada day jim

00:20:02.060 how are you doing i can't get on i can't get on with my uh laptop but i got on with my phone so

00:20:11.100 i don't know what the issue is but happy canada everybody um i got my little cowboy hat on since

00:20:17.260 for Midwest, you know, so

00:20:18.900 who tell you?

00:20:21.120 I was expecting a guy

00:20:23.060 in a, he's a city councilor, I'm expecting

00:20:25.140 a suit and a tie here.

00:20:27.560 We got a guy

00:20:29.220 with a cowboy hat on.

00:20:33.580 They told me if I would have

00:20:35.240 wore a suit and a tie the

00:20:36.700 first time I ran for council,

00:20:38.960 I would have got elected. I honestly

00:20:40.960 went through my first time in 1996,

00:20:43.140 I ran for politics with a pair of blue

00:20:45.100 jeans on, a blue jean shirt.

00:20:46.460 I lost by 40 votes

00:20:48.520 unfortunately the gentleman who beat me

00:20:50.940 passed away 10 months later and I got his

00:20:53.080 seat through an appointment but

00:20:54.380 I'm not a suit and tie guy

00:20:56.600 I am who I am this way

00:20:58.860 you get me this way I am

00:20:59.960 clearly that's fine so Maggie brought you

00:21:02.940 on Jim as the first city

00:21:04.880 councillor in Canada

00:21:06.340 to recognize what was going on with 0.96

00:21:08.880 this ickly nonsense

00:21:10.000 well there was two of you

00:21:13.580 Me and Carmen DeRose, my fellow councillor, but I was the gentleman that actually I could give you a little rundown.

00:21:23.140 On January 17th, 2023, a member of our city staff recommended that we join PCP Ickley.

00:21:31.580 And I was a little hesitant about it.

00:21:35.480 And I had already been doing some research in regard to the organization.

00:21:38.620 I got them at that time.

00:21:40.080 We delayed it over to the budget meeting.

00:21:42.360 we agreed to a one-year membership and we reviewed in february of 2024

00:21:47.540 little did i know the city didn't actually register for it and then they

00:21:52.280 tried to say in 2024 that we are now going to register

00:21:55.140 to be a part of uh pcp ickley i got it delayed again

00:22:00.860 and then i through peterborough and co-author lakes i 0.99

00:22:05.740 read about this lady named maggie hope ron and 1.00

00:22:08.920 And how she was trying to kick Ickley out of municipalities.

00:22:13.800 And I told her, you know, I believe in your average ski sea and what you're focusing on.

00:22:20.820 And I believe we can do it too.

00:22:23.080 There you are, Kickley.

00:22:24.580 And I gave her a little insight into what was going on.

00:22:26.840 And then we got a hold of her.

00:22:28.160 And then Duncan Spence got involved.

00:22:29.920 And we started letting the community be a little bit agnostic of what was happening.

00:22:36.720 and this was the u.s agenda 21 and we didn't need a part of it and they made me out to be a

00:22:44.000 climate denier and i had to enlighten them to the fact that i was probably

00:22:48.720 in 2008 i was recognized by the uh uh natural resources canada for my advocacy in reducing

00:22:58.000 greenhouse gas emissions so i could prove to them i wasn't a climate denier what i was i was against

00:23:03.440 a non-governmental organization controlling municipal counselors and together as a group

00:23:11.680 we were able to be successful we had and i we got a local counselor a former counselor angela braun

00:23:18.640 that came in measurement made presentations ron deverell a city advocate uh see a member made

00:23:26.000 presentations amina a lady who come from a or parents came from a communist country and seen

00:23:33.120 what uh agendas brought forward and we were able to be successful and convince council

00:23:40.560 i think the most successful thing was that city staff originally supported being a member

00:23:47.760 and after we showed them that and was able to show them that this wasn't acting in the best

00:23:54.240 interest of municipality city staff changed their decision and recommended that we no longer be a

00:24:01.440 member of ICLE PCP and that's the way it came to be and if one other thing to this day the city

00:24:10.080 of thought has still not ever been able to see a member of PCP or ICLE in person to make a

00:24:17.040 presentation as to what it is their goal is or their agenda and answer any questions relations

00:24:23.600 and such and

00:24:25.340 bottom line is we were successful

00:24:27.240 I praise Maggie, I praise Duncan Spence

00:24:29.780 Elizabeth

00:24:31.020 Minna

00:24:32.120 Ron Devereaux, Angela Brown

00:24:35.140 everybody was involved, it was a group effort

00:24:37.100 and I'm so happy that we would be

00:24:39.160 successful and show our municipality

00:24:41.200 that we can be

00:24:42.980 environmental stewards ourselves

00:24:45.040 without the influence

00:24:46.560 of UN Agenda 21

00:24:48.660 Amen

00:24:49.820 How much influence

00:24:52.900 and i i know this doesn't it's it's different everywhere but how much influence does uh city

00:24:58.380 bureaucrats have over the city council i mean because you you just said jim that thank god we

00:25:04.220 got the city staff to change their mind and change their directives i mean they're they're just the

00:25:10.260 bureaucrats you guys are the ones who direct them right well we are the ones that direct them that

00:25:16.220 exactly right because here was the thing uh shadow is that on january 17 2023 when the member of

00:25:24.220 staff brought it forward to council councilors at that time questioned and said who asked for this

00:25:31.100 it wasn't a council directive it was a directive coming from staff because the staff member

00:25:37.660 that was their objective for us to be a member of this association or group whatever you may call

00:25:44.700 it and it wasn't directive of council and that's where my uh i might say i got my back up or that

00:25:52.220 was a thorn on my side that why are we initiating this we're a municipal council this is a global

00:25:58.060 agenda we don't need global initiatives and thought we can do our own mandate and as maggie

00:26:03.660 brown said a lot of counselors were only not the best thing was how many counselors said oh it's free

00:26:11.500 when it first came to council

00:26:14.640 the council

00:26:15.200 staff was saying

00:26:18.500 well there's these five steps

00:26:20.540 that are free but they're not five

00:26:22.620 steps they're five pathways

00:26:24.600 that's what they were telling them

00:26:26.480 and it's about sustainability to reduce

00:26:28.820 cattle in your municipality

00:26:30.540 and pass bylaws that they're not going to expand

00:26:32.720 natural gas pipelines

00:26:33.940 we want you to install heat pumps

00:26:36.600 we want you to stop and limit the amount

00:26:38.880 of cattle you have in your municipality

00:26:40.660 the amount of sheep we're going to tell you how you can farm your land that's what the end goal

00:26:46.700 was and a lot of my fellow councils i believe at the time really don't know what the end goal was

00:26:51.100 or the agenda is in the long run but thankfully insight came from council insight came from staff

00:26:57.880 and we're able to now to be our own environmental stewards as i showed them at that time that i

00:27:03.560 started in 2008 in the city of sorrows maggie yeah i wanted to say to the staff member that

00:27:11.120 brought it forward when we look at icly's website they have all these workshops that they post

00:27:17.080 and for the public to view and they have a youtube channel and she's on there as a member of icly so

00:27:27.000 we have city staffers across this country that are actually part of icly's membership and they're

00:27:36.020 in there getting all this information on how to do these programs and um and then there she is

00:27:43.520 trying to put put forward this program and then she quit after right she quit after she saw oh

00:27:49.900 they don't really want me to do this program so i'm just gonna leave

00:27:53.120 no she's not one of these ones but this is a good site to show because um the jim and carmen

00:28:01.600 and the council in thorold asked for a presentation for pcp to come and do a presentation and two

00:28:08.320 people from the fcm came uh hiana and um her supervisor and um they so so they wouldn't answer

00:28:20.260 for icly they kind of skirted the questions didn't they and um said that they couldn't

00:28:26.440 answer for icly but if you look at the pcp about page the majority of the leadership team

00:28:33.640 are representatives of icly now i went to victoria and on the icly web page it says that their

00:28:41.760 headquarters is one of them is in victoria at victoria city hall we went yeah maggie's right

00:28:48.980 look at this look at this here so this is the pcp team this is the partners uh for climate

00:28:54.760 protection uh web page the website that i gave you guys earlier again pcp-ppc.ca uh meet the team

00:29:03.360 so this you guys supposed to be partners for climate protection but they're ickley look at

00:29:09.400 that pavels hawkins ickley canada this woman here kiana simmons is member of the federation of

00:29:16.140 canadian municipalities this guy here adler is an icly employee this is an icly canada executive

00:29:23.380 director megan meaney managing director icly canada ua jackson what did they have to do with

00:29:31.240 any of this this is a separate organization is it not it's nobody knows what icly is right like i

00:29:38.760 said we went to victoria to their headquarters at city hall and nobody knew who icly was i had all

00:29:45.160 these nice questions to ask them and then i just emailed iwa you know my questions very politely

00:29:53.420 nobody got back to me right and then they came and they did a presentation for the thorold council

00:29:59.920 and it's all on public record now so if you go to my substack kickley substack we've we have a

00:30:06.180 thorold case study we have it thoroughly laid out how how they tried to get in and how we got them

00:30:12.000 out and um well and so you can watch that presentation they did a terrible job they

00:30:17.880 wouldn't answer any questions they had the same excuses it's free we can't tell you how much it

00:30:23.600 costs it's voluntary you can leave any time thank you we will and um yeah and then you know if you

00:30:32.100 dare try and resist it they say are you denying climate change and the ipcc is the only source

00:30:40.940 that you're allowed to to quote um and then anyway and the ipc is not a group of experts by the way

00:30:48.120 just so everybody knows it's just a group of of people politicians basically or bureaucrats they

00:30:53.500 are not climate experts jim were you trying to make a point there i yeah i'm just going to say

00:31:00.280 in regards to uh ptp i was the council that said you know what they first came to us in january 17

00:31:07.480 2023 now we're here in february of 2024 we're yet to see any member of pcp or icly

00:31:15.160 be president of our meetings and i was the counselor who at the meeting then said look it

00:31:20.520 why don't we get a member of pcp icly here to answer questions seeing that the only one that's

00:31:25.720 answering questions for us is staff and they're the ones that's saying we need to do this and

00:31:31.480 when it came down to icly pcp representatives being there there wasn't any and that's why

00:31:36.840 on june the 18th i said look at we have yet to even meet or see a representative pcp ickley

00:31:44.720 they seem to be non-existent and that's what it is this is an agenda being pushed i feel through

00:31:50.740 the federation canadian municipalities and if you go back to what you were just showing those people

00:31:56.640 on the uh page there if you look they all have faces to their names but if you look the pcp

00:32:05.120 individual. There's a name, but

00:32:07.100 there's no face.

00:32:09.300 So you go up again, watch.

00:32:11.220 Go up again. If you go up

00:32:13.100 again, the person right there.

00:32:15.420 PCP, right there. PCP.

00:32:17.280 So you have a name. Go up one more.

00:32:19.640 Right there. 1.00

00:32:21.160 Tasha Truant. 1.00

00:32:23.120 That's the PC representative.

00:32:25.540 Who is she? Tasha Truant. 1.00

00:32:26.780 If you look on the thing.

00:32:28.980 That's right, and it says PCP, PCL.

00:32:30.960 And there's another one, Lindsay Telfer.

00:32:32.420 Yeah.

00:32:32.780 yeah that's right the people that belong to peace yeah dp there's no photo to them

00:32:39.220 there's just you know that you go right down to the bottom there too a big point that we want

00:32:46.800 our canadian counselors to know right down at the bottom of the page shadow

00:32:50.640 they absolved themselves responsibility it says here right here you know um that this project

00:33:00.980 is carried out with the assistance of the green municipal fund that means that we're paying for

00:33:05.580 it right we're paying to have our data harvested and given to international third parties and the

00:33:11.700 government of canada and administered by the federation of canadian municipalities and icly

00:33:17.220 notwithstanding this support financial support and administrative support the views expressed

00:33:25.100 are the personal views of the author and icly canada the federation of canadian municipalities

00:33:30.500 and the government of Canada accept no responsibility for them.

00:33:34.940 So this is on the bottom of every page on the PCP website.

00:33:39.520 So they've waived liability and they've put it on the councillors

00:33:43.160 and they're tricking them into adopting this program

00:33:46.000 with a very nicely worded joining resolution

00:33:48.880 that makes it almost impossible for them to say no

00:33:52.500 in a six-hour meeting with 600 pages of actual work

00:33:56.380 that they need to get done, right?

00:33:58.100 Especially if you have climate zealots on council who are calling you a climate denier and the devil pretty much, right?

00:34:04.700 That's great.

00:34:05.220 So public pressure.

00:34:06.080 Let's ask Duncan here.

00:34:07.260 Duncan, what's your involvement in all of this?

00:34:09.640 You've just been sitting there quietly for the last 10 minutes, listening politely.

00:34:13.880 Yeah.

00:34:15.000 Basically, I sort of connected all the residents of Thorold and of surrounding Niagara region,

00:34:22.620 because they were concerned and active residents as well to, you know, get the message out about the big secret in Thorold 0.56

00:34:33.120 is that we're slowly being taken over by foreign selected people, not elected people.

00:34:40.800 But on top of it, they're not even from Canada.

00:34:44.820 And, you know, as we went through this, we had about six or seven ladies,

00:34:50.080 and they would station themselves outside retail areas or in malls and so on they ran into you know 0.98

00:34:58.000 a few people that gave them a rough time not many but we did manage to get 250 signatures

00:35:04.720 of uh in a statement of support for the council to opt out of icly by the hard work that these

00:35:12.720 ladies did and they were just so surprised at how many people are awake and that's wonderful to see

00:35:21.480 but but that said now that we've opened this crack and it's the first crack in Canada that 0.59

00:35:27.480 we can you know keep keep opening uh the the challenge is we've got to keep that civic

00:35:35.540 engagement uh constant all the time so we're meeting next week and brainstorming how can we

00:35:44.020 keep this initiative going and you know one thing that uh we've talked about and jim had had set

00:35:52.340 set the groundwork for that in 2000 and whenever it was 2006 or whenever he started with his own

00:35:59.220 environmental plan um which is very cost effective because you're not hiring

00:36:05.460 outside consultants like municipalities are they just kind of think well we don't know how to do

00:36:11.860 this so we better hire somebody i mean it's all taxpayers money that goes goes towards this stuff

00:36:17.780 so you know maggie's put together a great draft plan for an environmental plan that you can

00:36:25.620 implement locally so i mean the whole key is to get out there and get the the the people involved

00:36:33.780 the biggest thing for we were i'm connected with two or three other freedom groups in the niagara

00:36:41.140 region and for the three meetings that we were involved with in the council we you know filled

00:36:48.260 the council chambers and the lobby outside and just when the counselors saw all the people there

00:36:54.900 they figured they must know something we better be careful about what we sign into here you know

00:37:02.020 and i think just having the presence of the people there was amazing and they were all you know you

00:37:08.340 had the odd laugh the odd clapping that would come up from time to time but there wasn't any heckling

00:37:14.500 or people being nasty or threatening or no conflict no anxiety or anything like that we were all

00:37:22.580 respecting the council and that plays a big part in it too because you know as i'm sure you've

00:37:31.340 you've had many people on your show as soon as somebody you know raises their voice or holds up

00:37:37.940 who knows what it is the media will just eat you alive so you gotta stay calm you gotta stay cool

00:37:45.880 And it was all part of it. But I mean, basically, we just put the pieces of this puzzle together. And, you know, there was just so many unanswered questions. The counselors really didn't have a choice because they couldn't in good conscience say, yes, this is what we need to do.

00:38:06.360 when there were so many unanswered questions.

00:38:09.180 When we had the two members of the PCP of the council,

00:38:13.940 we had a lot of people there from our groups listening,

00:38:17.600 and I believe there were something like 17 questions asked by Jim and Carmen,

00:38:23.520 and it was all just spoken mirrors, all just spoken mirrors.

00:38:28.140 What about the other members of council?

00:38:30.740 How did they respond to this, Jim, Duncan?

00:38:33.560 were they supportive or were they actually willing to sit and listen or were they just

00:38:39.660 sniping at you because i know that in in other forums like this in different cities across the

00:38:44.720 country regarding maybe uh you know the transing of kids in schools and whatnot some counselors

00:38:50.120 will actually just turn their back as a sign of disrespect for the duration of a meeting did you

00:38:56.420 see any sign of that at all well i can tell you how how it works in thought so we have counselors

00:39:04.740 who always proclaim that they're going to support what staff recommendation are so in january 2017

00:39:14.260 when it started january 17 2023 when it started staff recommended that we join pcp uh majority of

00:39:24.900 counselors or was close to the tie were in favor of joining and i asked that it be

00:39:31.620 put over to the budget deliberations and that because there could be financial implications

00:39:37.060 at that time instead of joining full force we were able to get council to agree that would be

00:39:43.300 a one-year term just let you know how it all went down and then that one year term we agreed on

00:39:49.140 And the city staff never did join ICLEI, even though they told us in January 17th, joining it was simple.

00:39:56.060 It's just going online, you could join.

00:39:58.000 So when the year came up, I got a hold of the city clerk and said, OK, the year is up.

00:40:03.980 I want to put a motion to the floor.

00:40:05.760 We get out of this.

00:40:06.420 And they said, well, Jim, we really didn't join yet.

00:40:10.440 So that actually was a catalyst and give us the opportunity to get Maggie on board and Duncan on board.

00:40:16.500 So now we had a platform to fight it, and we were able to get staff because on the May 28th meeting, council members, we were at a tie.

00:40:31.940 It was 4-4, actually, and they broke it for us to go to June, and in June is when staff then changed their decision and said, we now recommend we don't join it.

00:40:45.140 So then what happened then is the counselors who always said, well, I always support what staff recommends.

00:40:51.260 I knew then we added one because now the members previously that said they didn't support it now did support staff.

00:41:00.880 And we only had one dissenting member.

00:41:04.840 And, you know, that's his decision or whatever, but we were able to be successful seven to one.

00:41:08.980 So how it came to be was they kind of got themselves and condemned them when they said, well, we're going to support staff.

00:41:17.200 So when staff reversed the decision, they had no alternative but to support staff.

00:41:22.580 And I got to say this, if I could add one thing, and Maggie was a catalyst that night.

00:41:29.440 Maggie had registered to speak or thought she had registered to speak.

00:41:33.140 They only put in her deprecitation in writing.

00:41:38.900 So I was able to get staff and be able to put up motion to the floor to able Maggie to speak.

00:41:44.800 It was a 4-4 tie to show you how the meeting went. 0.94

00:41:49.180 The mayor broke the tie to allow her to speak.

00:41:51.720 And then when it came to actually come to the floor for a vote, we won 7-1.

00:41:56.200 Because Maggie was able to speak and they were going to deny her that opportunity.

00:42:00.080 so how how do we have this is fantastic when in thorold ontario people might be saying you guys

00:42:07.700 watching this right now might be saying well thorold ontario it's a city of 20 000 people i

00:42:12.140 mean it's it's just one out of how many maggie 400 plus municipalities across the country

00:42:17.200 how do we spread what happened in thorold to across the province and then across the country

00:42:26.080 Well, I would absolutely tell everyone watching this to grab the articles that we put out about Thorold's win on the Substack and on the different Thorolds.

00:42:41.140 We've posted anyone who has done an article about this.

00:42:45.020 We've put them all on the Substack.

00:42:47.220 I would send that to your councillors.

00:42:49.200 They need to see an example of a municipality opting out and the reasons that were given and the fact the staff recommended it so that they can start looking at that.

00:43:01.300 I think that there's really good counselors all across this country and mayors, and if they only knew what was happening behind the scenes with these programs and how much time and energy is being invested into collecting our data and giving it away to an international organization and really, you know, forcing these reduction targets.

00:43:26.020 I don't think people understand when a municipality sets a reduction target like net zero by 2050, they're essentially ensuring that any product or program, no matter what the cost is, that aligns with that reduction target that has been adopted will immediately be endorsed moving forward.

00:43:52.920 things happen in a council in a certain way and this pcp program lays a foundation for that and

00:44:01.400 then once they get all of our data and they give it to icly and then they start whining and dining

00:44:10.820 and networking with them and bringing them to trade shows and showing them all these fancy

00:44:15.340 green products on how to get to their reduction target and um no they got a lot of i mean they

00:44:21.160 got a lot of money behind this obviously as you were pointing out earlier the the government of

00:44:25.160 canada and and whatever the un is probably behind all of this and and so i mean that's a big hill

00:44:31.900 to climb there are all kinds of people who message me daily every single day shadow i want to help

00:44:41.280 how can i help to me this is the most important battle that we're facing so maggie thank you

00:44:49.400 first of all for recognizing this and then taking it on uh duncan let me ask you how did the media

00:44:55.400 respond to all of this in the world well there was just uh i think the next day and maggie put

00:45:03.720 it up right away as soon as we saw it and it was a fairly well balanced uh report about the whole

00:45:11.760 thing um you know still the idea that i think we all know climate change is a bunch of smoke and

00:45:21.860 mirrors um the majority of people still don't realize that but well none of none of us likes

00:45:28.300 pollution we don't want to see birds dying in an oil slick in the great lakes we don't want to see

00:45:32.880 that stuff but at the same time when they sit there and they say the forest fires and the the

00:45:36.880 wildfires are being caused by climate change and you know the ice is melting and all of that

00:45:41.700 stuff i mean come on man i mean we know better than that you know the cow farts i mean like

00:45:46.620 in new york the mayor there eric adams a couple of months ago said we're monitoring and this is

00:45:52.040 where the information comes in maggie we're monitoring your food consumption so we can drop

00:45:56.920 meat eating in new york city by 30 by 2030 what seriously like they're going that far

00:46:05.120 that's absolutely crazy so i'm glad you guys have done this but again the pushback did the media go

00:46:12.480 nuts did the activist groups go crazy on you guys at all nothing no we did it originally they did

00:46:19.360 when when last year at this time when when jim and carmen and and ron devereau pushed back

00:46:26.600 conspiracy theorists right but this time well i think they they did one more article earlier when

00:46:34.740 i did that first delegation in the spring and uh they they did another bad one too but um the

00:46:44.460 recent one was really good and they actually quoted us and they said why we we had concerns

00:46:50.360 with it and and i think we're just getting better at how we're we're wording things too and i really

00:46:56.300 tried to encourage the team um we don't need to use triggering words and language it won't help

00:47:03.220 us win no leave that to me i'll do that yes that's my job and if i can say maggie when you

00:47:11.780 made that presentation to the environmental and sustainability committee in thorold you know and

00:47:17.900 then they said that you had made false accusation your data was uh wrong you know uh they basically

00:47:27.200 said that publicly actually passed a motion but i just want to let it be known that after we were

00:47:32.200 successful council the chair of that committee resigned so to me let it be that he resigned

00:47:38.520 because their agenda was no longer being instrumental and he basically resigned the

00:47:45.660 next day what's that so it wasn't a public municipality and that was fantastic like we

00:47:53.600 went in we did a delegation it was mainly about climate change and my concerns with the pcp

00:47:59.200 program and how it would affect their municipal plans and the fact that the the government and

00:48:05.580 fcm waived liability is it like you have to go in there agreeing with them because you're talking

00:48:11.700 about using non-inflammatory language maggie but at the same time i mean you can't go in there and

00:48:15.820 say well you know what there's climate change going on but it's not as bad as you think it is

00:48:19.560 i mean do you have to placate them that that way in order to get them to listen to you

00:48:23.360 I think one thing that worked really well with Thorold is we had three Thorold residents do deputations, all from different points of view.

00:48:37.600 We had two older ladies get up there and talk about, you know, their history.

00:48:43.120 And one of them was a counselor and knew all the counselors.

00:48:46.360 and she mentioned them by name and you could see the smiles and there was a real you know

00:48:52.680 relationship of trust there then there was mina who got up there and you know just pulled

00:48:59.040 everybody's heartstrings with how her family came over from yugoslavia and how you know neighbors 0.64

00:49:05.720 always help neighbors and we need to do that again and it was like playing on the emotions

00:49:11.920 of the counselors. Then we had the facts with Maggie and Jim. And then we had Ron Devereaux.

00:49:20.820 Now, this guy's 77 years old. He's still doing landscaping and ground maintenance every day.

00:49:29.620 But he also has two post-secondary degrees on earth sciences. So he really knows what's going

00:49:36.660 on up in the sky and on the ground. And he understands all that stuff. And for the last

00:49:41.620 Three months, he's been pummeling at least one or two emails to the mayor, the staff, and the council in the city of Thorold explaining how the climate change thing doesn't hold water.

00:49:58.640 And he put in little really well put together videos that he found online, you know, two, three minutes, nice and simple.

00:50:06.200 But again, here was a guy that's been doing deputations in Thorough since 1996 about all different kinds of things.

00:50:14.680 And, you know, those three people together with Maggie and Jim, we couldn't lose.

00:50:22.780 So we need to recreate the perfect storm that you guys created there in Thorough to get this to happen. 1.00

00:50:30.320 We've got to bring the two old Yugoslavian ladies out. 1.00

00:50:33.180 We've got to tug at the heartstrings of the city council somehow. 0.95

00:50:36.200 Is this going to work, Maggie, do you think, in larger cities?

00:50:40.080 Go ahead, Jim.

00:50:43.100 I was going to say, you need to get someone like myself that understands, is open, and able to communicate with the public within the best need of the municipality.

00:50:58.380 I'm a councilor that believes in the local agenda, not in the global agenda.

00:51:03.260 And when I seen Maggie and what she was trying to do in Peterborough and Quarter Lakes and we connected, I knew I had met the person that could help us get to what we needed to do in Thorpe because they looked at me in Thorpe as the conspiracy theorist.

00:51:21.580 Jim Hanley, you're the conspiracy theorist.

00:51:24.040 I've had several integrity commissioner complaints against me over the last few years because of my conspiracy theorist attitudes.

00:51:33.260 And eventually, it was able, through Duncan and Duncan's bed, and having local citizens come forward, Angela Braun, former city councilor, Minna, the lady from Yugoslavia, Ron Devereaux, I go back to Ron in 1996, I first ran for council in 1996, just to let you know, Shadow, I've been a councillor for 21 years in the city of Thoreau, and I'm involved in municipal politics in 1996.

00:52:01.460 And together, collectively as a group, that's what we need to do.

00:52:05.640 We need to get individuals like myself that are members of council

00:52:10.080 understand that we can be our own environmental stewards

00:52:14.160 and we don't need non-governmental organizations showing us how to move forward

00:52:20.000 in regards to environmental sustainability.

00:52:23.520 So you guys, I know that you're local Thorold Niagara region guys,

00:52:28.360 but obviously you have connections to other councillors in other cities,

00:52:33.860 and I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe,

00:52:37.320 you might be able to connect us, Maggie, whoever,

00:52:41.520 with some of these folks who believe, as we do,

00:52:43.880 that, as Duncan says, this is just smoke and mirrors, 1.00

00:52:46.700 it's all a bunch of crap, 0.98

00:52:47.700 and then we can initiate something like this in their town, 0.99

00:52:51.780 and then their town, because this needs to catch fire now.

00:52:54.720 People need to hear, and people are hearing now,

00:52:56.720 what happened in your city but this needs to get out there faster because people's land is being

00:53:03.920 taken away man water rights are being taken away it's it's crazy you know you can't you can't afford

00:53:09.140 a home these days i mean it's it's insane but the the diabolical thing as far as i'm concerned is

00:53:15.260 that it's happening in different places at different times at different paces so as not

00:53:20.920 to look like it's all one big thing right yeah so i i think one one path forward so you know

00:53:28.020 the the day after thorold one of these team members that was on our team okay which city

00:53:34.000 is next cool it you know i mean one step at a time here start small start small aim big

00:53:42.680 yeah that's right when you're looking at you know we have to increase civic engagement and that

00:53:49.760 sounds like a simple thing but it's not because most people still are unaware of what happened

00:53:56.440 in Thorold and what's been going on with the climate and so on and so forth so what I suggest

00:54:01.780 is that people and you need people that are patient and are good observers and discerners

00:54:08.600 to start either go online or better go to council meetings and listen to how the mechanics works

00:54:16.560 there. One other great thing about Thorold was the mayor, because he broke the tie that let

00:54:23.100 Maggie speak. He broke some other ties as well that allowed this to move forward, and he let

00:54:29.680 every councillor speak. Well, there are other municipalities, I'm sure we've all seen them,

00:54:36.640 where the mayors, they have strong mayor powers in Ontario, and I'm not going to talk about them,

00:54:43.160 but they're out there and they can shut things down and you're going to have a real rough time

00:54:48.220 so what you need to do is listen to the counselors when they're speaking and see if they bring up

00:54:54.160 some of these things and then approach them outside the council and start talking with them

00:54:59.840 so that they can bring up stuff like jim did because once jim brought it up then we can send

00:55:05.400 the team in and go okay here let's go because if you go into a municipality that's been on step

00:55:12.200 three or whatever of the kickly initiative and try and knock them down there's no issues there

00:55:19.420 right now because they don't know about it so you have to get the counselors to bring it up like jim

00:55:24.560 did say so you got this is you got it you got to pick your spots right you got to go wait wait a 0.94

00:55:30.140 minute that counselor sounds like he doesn't believe any of this crap let's go get him so

00:55:33.900 you've got to find the possible friendlies on any city council or maybe within the bureaucracy of

00:55:39.600 that city or town and then talk to them uh maggie you're gonna say i recommend you know always being

00:55:46.380 respectful always aiming to make friends of our counselors and the city staff having conversations

00:55:56.400 with them um being the bigger people at all times right uh we're not gonna win this

00:56:04.940 confrontationally this didn't come into our councils confrontationally this wasn't done

00:56:12.480 with the sword it was done with the pen and our words are our weapons right so we need to make

00:56:19.660 sure we're we're speaking well we're responding well and and they're going to expose themselves

00:56:28.660 If there is one counselor pushing this on the council, they will expose themselves.

00:56:37.600 And the thing about local action is you're in a room with these people, and we have the

00:56:44.160 power to shift the energy in that room.

00:56:46.960 We have the power to influence the people in that room.

00:56:51.720 And there's so much that we can still do.

00:56:56.180 I honestly don't think Canadians have tried.

00:56:59.140 I think we've gotten lazy.

00:57:00.540 I think we've gotten reactive.

00:57:02.560 And we just need to take a minute and look around who is in our town.

00:57:07.020 Who wants to do this?

00:57:09.420 Start getting together once a month and decide what you're going to do that month to influence your local council and to form a relationship with them.

00:57:19.220 maybe you're gonna look at the pcp website and see if you've signed up and then call your local staff

00:57:26.140 and politely ask for the joining resolution let them know that they're signed up some of them

00:57:32.140 don't know and you mentioned this before too on the show that joining resolution is everything

00:57:37.560 as far as thorold goes you guys uh at least jim was saying you guys hadn't signed up yet you were

00:57:44.280 looking at it you've done some um one-year trials but other municipalities maggie in this country

00:57:50.160 have been members of this thing for 20 years or more so you've got to go back some to find that

00:57:54.300 joining resolution right yeah and once they get to milestone five there's five milestones

00:57:59.920 they get to milestone five and do you know what they do after they've got all of our data and

00:58:05.500 they've gotten the council to endorse their reduction targets they go to disneyland they

00:58:11.420 declare a climate emergency to galvanize public opinion and justify their expenditures and and

00:58:19.220 it just keeps keeps coming the fear campaign just doesn't stop so what we're doing too is going in

00:58:25.840 and presenting local environmental stewardship programs in most cases we're already doing enough

00:58:32.200 for the environment if anything our local programs are underfunded and we're spending

00:58:37.300 way too much on things that aren't necessary and um if we get these iklis out if we get the u.n

00:58:46.280 out of local government if you know it's going to take some time because it took some time for

00:58:50.760 them all to to get all of the 400 or so municipalities on board is that going to make

00:58:56.160 things much different in this country in your opinion i could go through all three of you guys

00:59:02.060 It will. I think it will, because if we succeed in doing that, that means that we've pulled together local activists and given them an actual strategy that works and that they can win with.

00:59:19.980 right and and it gets the people engaged again canada has a political apathy problem look at

00:59:28.320 the voter turnout that is the groundwork that needs to be addressed so when i started doing this

00:59:34.060 um it was more for that gather 2030 how can we pull the community together oh look we got

00:59:40.200 some really interesting people that are pretty smart that are looking at the city council

00:59:44.960 well, I could get involved with that.

00:59:47.500 We're bringing the communities together, right?

00:59:50.020 And we need to give each other,

00:59:51.820 we need to actually start winning.

00:59:53.600 And I think the one place we can win is locally.

00:59:57.220 And I think it will change everything

01:00:00.280 because that's where,

01:00:04.360 you know, I was sitting at a beautiful waterfall today

01:00:08.480 and I prayed, what do you want me to do next?

01:00:12.760 and i got this 20-year plan and i just laughed and i said okay

01:00:17.640 but one of your plan out of that a lot of work to do in this i get one day at a time man like

01:00:25.740 all i ever gets one day at a time you get 20 years we have a lot of work to do in this country

01:00:30.980 nobody's gonna get elected until we get the groundwork done to get the people elected right

01:00:38.500 so i'm telling people don't wait wait to get elected step up as a leader in your community

01:00:44.420 now right so people are people are going to need somebody like you to direct them you've got a plan

01:00:53.800 and so people can reach out to you we're going to get to that at the end jim you were going to make

01:00:58.240 a point and i want to ask both of you guys duncan and jim are there really 15 minute agendas on city

01:01:06.040 planning tables right now are they actually doing this and do they know what they're doing even with

01:01:12.460 these things well i can honestly tell you i believe that's where we were headed in thorough

01:01:19.660 in regards to 15 minute plans and we kind of derailed that and you know i can just go to say

01:01:26.500 they told me i had to enlighten them the fact i mentioned earlier but in 2008 i brought the city

01:01:33.280 how we could reduce our electricity consumption at the arena

01:01:37.160 by eliminating metal light lighting and getting LAD lighting.

01:01:41.040 Also brought to council attention how we could use wood chips

01:01:44.780 in regards to generating electricity because of the ash emerald borer

01:01:49.280 and it was killing all our trees.

01:01:50.520 Yeah, we're not on a campaign right now, Jim.

01:01:52.720 I'm asking, do we have these 15-minute city plans in?

01:01:58.460 Like, are they putting in bike lanes?

01:02:00.300 Are they taking away lanes and streets?

01:02:02.420 are they closing areas off people can't leave certain areas of town now they're making it

01:02:08.580 more difficult are there is there talk about putting in attacks if people want to leave a

01:02:13.540 certain part of town like they had over in leeds in the uk anything like that that you've heard

01:02:18.800 not not in salt at this moment not in the niagara minutes of not in the niagara peninsula at this

01:02:27.180 moment, but as long as

01:02:29.320 we can do as we did in Seoul, we can steer

01:02:31.340 our ways away from that

01:02:33.360 and that would be a goal

01:02:35.380 with getting more municipalities on board

01:02:37.560 to kick Ickley out

01:02:39.420 and we could be our own

01:02:41.380 environmental stewards, so

01:02:43.320 we don't need to go that route, 15-minute

01:02:45.300 cities, and keeping track of

01:02:47.340 our movements in and out

01:02:49.060 like they're doing in Edmonton, Alberta right now.

01:02:51.840 Well, that's dangerous. Duncan?

01:02:54.020 Yeah, somewhere

01:02:55.360 I can't remember where I saw it, but there's a list of 15-minute target cities in Canada.

01:03:02.660 And it's mostly the big places.

01:03:05.000 I don't think anywhere in Niagara is on there.

01:03:07.960 I can't remember.

01:03:09.140 But you can certainly see it if you drive to Toronto or east or west of Mississauga.

01:03:14.680 You can see the bike lanes and how they're moving things around to set it up.

01:03:20.300 how they're you know what's been going on with the land use and the zoning in alberta you know

01:03:27.760 where where you can put in these these homes all of a sudden you have six families living in a home

01:03:33.940 right beside you and you can't stop it because they changed the zoning and that's all agenda

01:03:40.160 2030 and the 15-minute city rolling out step by step but it seems to be more in the bigger

01:03:47.240 municipalities uh you know so i think we know edmonton and vancouver are definitely on board

01:03:53.420 with that uh winnipeg you know winnipeg is is so badly run and always has been so poorly run that

01:04:00.240 i don't think we have to worry about that here for a hundred years but there's calgary is another

01:04:05.960 one right i think this whole water thing there is nothing but a big scam um no word on saskatchewan

01:04:12.560 yet toronto definitely chris sky believes that canada's over um he ran for mayor in toronto

01:04:19.320 last year he came in ninth i think it was he believes that canada is over i think we can save

01:04:23.880 it i think with more people like you um on our side definitely we've got a real good shot at

01:04:29.360 getting these these world economic forum uh un people out and reclaiming our country it's canada

01:04:37.060 day after all and we got to take our country back jim absolutely that's right candidate like i said

01:04:43.100 start small think big that's what you need to start throw it's just a start we're a pittance

01:04:49.100 in the mount we're we're in an ant in an anthill and we're going to one day get to the top of that

01:04:56.040 hill and all right by little we'll realize that we all have voices and a lot of us didn't even

01:05:03.020 though we had them and how powerful they are together you know with civic engagement that's

01:05:09.180 that's the key don't add up on it start that dialogue start talking with the counselors and

01:05:14.780 yeah it'll it'll come it'll happen for sure all right duncan jim thank you very much for joining

01:05:20.800 the show tonight uh maggie i want you to hang on for a couple more minutes people are always very

01:05:25.460 motivated after you come on the show and they always ask me how do i get a hold of maggie

01:05:30.900 because i want to take part in what she's doing i think that we have a good chance at getting

01:05:36.040 ickly out here but i don't know how to do it because let's be honest i mean we talk about a

01:05:40.600 lot of things on this show we never really talk about um the plan itself so do you have that is

01:05:49.920 it on the website is it on the sub stack where can we find that how can we reach you maggie

01:05:55.240 So I'm going to be putting out, I have a plan this summer to do quite a bit of writing.

01:06:00.440 I have a lot of information that I think I need to process myself personally, and I do

01:06:06.620 better when I can write that.

01:06:08.020 So I'll be taking some time to do some writing and working with key people in each province

01:06:15.200 that are going to have full access to Maggie.

01:06:19.060 and other than that um people i'm going to create a facebook page so when people are doing

01:06:26.680 delegations or sorry a group when they're doing delegations and they've or they've done one or

01:06:32.580 they're advertising and they're looking for feedback the group can kind of start meeting

01:06:37.180 on that facebook group right and we can start encouraging each other and and giving feedback

01:06:42.500 that way um i think that that's the best way moving forward and aside from that i i will just

01:06:51.240 keep popping up randomly in different places and there's a lot of travel i mean like maggie has

01:06:57.400 been traveling all across the country making connections and motivating people and uh i just

01:07:04.640 want to thank you for everything that you're doing i would go um if you go on to this kickly.ca

01:07:10.800 website you're going to see improvements happening there there's a resource page there's an example

01:07:16.800 of the statement of support that they handed out in thorold and get got 250 signatures there's

01:07:22.840 examples of posters that you can use and flyers to educate your community and i would just send

01:07:30.700 articles that i put out on kickly kickly's substack to your councillors they're designed

01:07:37.500 to counter the climate narrative and to provide them with information so that they can make better

01:07:43.040 decisions and have it well referenced, right? So we're doing exactly what ICLEI did. That's why we

01:07:51.160 made our website look like ICLEI's website. We're countering them in every way. We're going to

01:07:56.600 provide education, public awareness, training, and information for decision making, right? 1.00

01:08:03.200 and i just encourage anyone with these skills to get to work right maggie can't do it all

01:08:08.820 we've got great people in your comments here that have been doing delegations sheila and edmonton

01:08:14.340 sorry shelly and all over the country so we just need to um pull our networks together and that's

01:08:21.200 why i want to get back to work writing on my gather 2030 because it was really about that

01:08:25.340 community building which is core to all of this and that network and pulling our network together

01:08:30.500 How do people overcome the fear that they have of speaking up?

01:08:39.960 Just know that once you do it, that fear will go away and you'll get better at it.

01:08:45.300 And if we don't speak up, then we lose.

01:08:50.540 And, you know, this is a bit prophetic, but it says that in the end that we will overcome by the power of our testimony.

01:08:59.180 we need to speak up if we are fighting a battle like this it's our stories that we need to share

01:09:08.400 and our voices that will um win our battle for us so yeah i encourage everyone speak up

01:09:16.820 share in a nice comfortable sharing circle start there right write about your thoughts first um so

01:09:23.620 you can better articulate it and something that really helped me and i'm going to write about it

01:09:28.820 is a product called Ormis, orbitly rearranged monoatomic solution. It helps heal the DNA.

01:09:36.760 It helps your left and right hemisphere to communicate better, decalcifies the penile

01:09:41.860 gland, and just basically gets you back into your authentic self. And you won't be able to not

01:09:50.440 speak up properly after you take it. So there's a lady who makes it in Peterborough.

01:09:55.660 uh humana gold i think it's called from so i don't know guys i think that we're our dna is

01:10:05.100 under attack a little bit and we can do things to to fix it ourselves up absolutely all right

01:10:10.500 well i mean if people want to find out about this humana gold i guess they can reach out to you too

01:10:14.480 you're on all the socials uh facebook x all of that maggie always a pleasure thank you for coming

01:10:20.320 on tonight congratulations on your incredible success and we'll talk again very soon thank you

01:10:25.620 all right bye bye maggie hope braun with kickly.ca i'm going to throw this up on the screen one more

01:10:33.380 time so you guys can see the website check it out please it's important k-i-c-l-e-i.ca

01:10:44.220 that is k-i-c write this down i'll give you to the count of five to grab a pen and a piece of

01:10:51.280 paper you shouldn't need much more than that k-i-c-l-e-i dot c-a go and check out maggie's

01:11:01.540 website and see if you can help like find it in yourself to help out because there are successes

01:11:08.200 now starting to happen and i would i would personally like and i'm sure you would too

01:11:12.860 to see this start snowballing

01:11:15.040 into something bigger

01:11:16.020 so we can get rid of all this climate 1.00

01:11:19.000 nonsense and all of this trans nonsense 1.00

01:11:21.120 because as you know 1.00

01:11:22.180 it is all part of the same beast

01:11:25.180 that's going to be it for

01:11:26.980 the social media part of the show tonight

01:11:29.040 you guys I've still got oh so

01:11:31.080 very much to cover

01:11:33.040 in the extension for all access

01:11:35.000 members at shadowdavis.com

01:11:36.940 including what did

01:11:38.740 Justin Trudeau do

01:11:40.160 on Friday night

01:11:41.800 the Friday before a long weekend.

01:11:45.200 What does he do and what has he done

01:11:48.260 to stifle Pierre Polyev

01:11:51.580 from getting rid of Trudeau's initiatives

01:11:54.560 when Polyev does finally take power here in Canada?

01:11:58.740 Whether it's after the summer,

01:12:00.880 whether they call an election after the summer,

01:12:02.580 or whether it's not going to be until October of 2025,

01:12:05.360 we know that the Conservative Party of Canada

01:12:08.060 will take power at some point.

01:12:10.420 but Trudeau even not in power even as not the leader or the prime minister of this country

01:12:18.300 is doing things right now to stop Poliev before he can reverse liberal policies and we'll explain

01:12:24.640 exactly what that is in just a second on the extension on shadowdavis.com if you're not an

01:12:31.900 all-access member go become one right now it's not expensive for the rest of you I'll catch you

01:12:36.900 tomorrow night, 8 o'clock central, for another Shadow at Night livestream.

01:12:40.260 Love you all. Appreciate you all. I will talk to you again soon.

01:13:06.900 We'll be right back.

The Shadoe Davis Show - July 02, 2024

July 1st⧸2024- Maggie Hope Braun, 70% of Canadians say Canada is broken, much more

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